May 11, 2025 • 54 mins
Alice and Martha return to character studies to discuss everyone's favorite French champion, Fleur Delacour! Hermione might not give her a fair shake, and Ollivander might scoff at her Veela hair wand, but Fleur has a lot of redeeming characteristics, too! At least she's not a leetle boy!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fleur Delacour Part one.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
May I have your attention?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Please? May I have your attention? Please?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Well, the real Weird Sisters, please stand up. We're gonna
have a problem here were the Weird Sisters.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Were the real Weird Sisters? All you are the Weird Sisters.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Are fine and not the victors. Well, the real Weird Sisters,
please stand up, please stand up, Please stand up.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hi, and welcome to the Real Weird Sisters. I'm Alice
and I'm Martha, and today we're here to talk about
Fleur Delacour in the first fourth book, So the first
Flour book, to be fair, Yes, for her first book,
Harry's fourth book. Yes, And there is plenty of actually
to talk about with Flur. And I'm looking forward to
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getting back into the character studies. It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It has been a while, and I just know there
were a lot of people just chomp pick up the
bit for the character studies to return. So we're back.
Don't worry. Does not mean that we're gonna be done
with one page at a time or take five. It's
just another another type of show. But like you said,
there is a lot of flour content in the fourth book.
Surprisingly to me because she never won the real weirdo
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in book four.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, she's she's in there quite a bit, but she
never really has like a standout moment. I think there's
other other people that are bigger personalities in the room.
But you know, we're laying the groundwork for her to
get that real weirdo in the sixth book finally.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yes, yeah, Chapter twenty nine of the sixth book is
where she finally gets it, which I think is when
she and Missus Wesley have their will cooked steak revaciliation.
But for those who are wondering, don't worry. We I
know we skipped some real weirdos here. We skipped Wilkie Dunghead, Twycross,
we skipped Demelsa, Seguini, Celestina Warback, be Cousin, Fergus, all
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of them.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Sanguini didn't we do him at some point? I feel
like we did.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I think we talked about doing him, but I don't
think we did.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Let's let's slay well, no we did not, Okay, Okay,
I talked about doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Talk about Sanguine a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, but yeah, there's a lot of sixth book real
weirdos that we skipped over to get to the kind
of heavy hitters, and Floor was the last one on
the list. And honestly, I mean we're kind of getting
to the end of the real weirdos when it comes
to the like main power players. Like I said, there's
a few in the seventh book that will definitely be
able to do.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
A whole episode on.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But the other thing is, we've never done character studies
on people who didn't get the real weirdo, who were
like evil people, you know, like Bellatrix, and right, she's
the main one I thought of.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But yeah, jug stuff to do or Jughead whatever, Jugs
not Jughead Archie and Jughead. We never did one on
them either.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, we didn't, and I don't think we will be
many times.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But Jugson he for sure gets a real weirdo.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh yeah, he would have probably about ten or fifteen parts.
Yeah that Juxstall actually did get the real word Ow'll
he oh probably?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh no, he knowing us, knowing how weird we were
getting with our selections towards the end of Prise.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Surprisingly he did not win the real wordo. And honestly,
our Deathly Hallows list of real weirdos is a little
bit more normal than it was the sixth book, where
we went a little off the rails.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, well, anyway, I think we mainly selected Floor so
that I would have to say her name a whole
bunch of times and potentially have to do an impression
of her. But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I think that that's kind of the reason. But
also because the real weird sister's discussing Flour is a
great tongue twister.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, lots of ours, and I don't I mean, I'm
fully admitting that I don't think I have a wonderful
pronunciation of her name.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, yeah, true, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But all right, well, without further ado, let's go ahead
and talk about Flour. In the fourth book. We the
first time that we really get to know who she
is is when her name gets called by Dumbledore out
of the Goblet and so. But there is reference at
the fact that they've they've seen her before, because it
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they describe her as the girl who looks who so
resembled a villa, like they they've they've noticed her before,
but they didn't know what her name was until she
was selected.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It Ron's reaction is like, it's her, Well, I guess
that's Harry, who says it, but yeah, they've been her,
watching her forever and her money. Oh look, they're all disappointed, and.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All the other girls from bo Baton from bou Batten's
are It says two of the girls who had not
been selected had dissolved into tears and were sobbing with
their heads on their arms. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That, I feel like that's kind of an unfinished narrative
of like why. I mean, I guess they all just
wanted to be the person themselves.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I don't know if this is some sort of like
rude stereotype from the author about like French girls being
overly dramatic or something. I don't know if that's really
a thing or not, but it feels like it's sort of.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I think that is kind of a stereotype.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And I also like, I think we're supposed to think
that Floor is not that likable, but I mean, which
she's not in this book, but I yeah, it kind
of fades into the background pretty quickly, like this whole
the rest of bo Batton's not wanting Floor to be
the champion. I think I think it's supposed to be
they just wanted themselves like they wouldn't they would have
been upset whoever it was, if it wasn't themselves.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, and I think that like part of it is
just that we really don't see that any of anybody
else from bo Battons like ever again, right, so.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Ah, but yeah, but that's why it's like a weird
detail to include here when it doesn't ever come back.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, and flur Flour's description, I just wanted to quickly
touch on this before we move on to the next
scene with her, but it does. It describes her as
having a sheet of silvery blonde hair. So We've talked
a little bit about how Flour is not really portrayed
very book accurately in the movies, but I think that's
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one way, Like she does not have silvery blonde hair
in the movies.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, and silvery blonde hair is really hard for me
to picture because silvery blonde hair feels very like glamorous
old woman to me, like silvery like if any like
I don't know, I guess Vila are supposed to have
like a silvery sheen to their skin, so that's like
why she has the silvery hair as well. But to me,
I'm like picturing like, I don't know, miss Cracker an
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old lady drag from from from Boll Drag Race. Anybody
familiar with or no, sorry not miss Cracker Aquaria. Yeah,
I don't know the silvery blonde I'm picturing.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, it's it's tough for me to picture exactly what
that's supposed to mean either, but other than just maybe
like a like a white blonde. Yeah, but that's different feeling.
I know, it's it's a strange description. I think it
is the villa piece that's coming forward in that.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, I guess it just doesn't seem that beautiful to me.
But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well, you haven't been around a villa before, have you?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
That is true?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah? Okay, So anyway, Flur is selected as the champion
and Harry is in a very different mood here where
he's kind of like that's her to Ron versus a
second later, once he gets selected and has to interact
with Flur, and he's like shell shocked. And so Harry
walks into that side room where the three other champions are,
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and Flur is I would say, out of the three
of them, like Harry sees them as strangely impressive, but
I feel like she's almost like she's the rudest to
him and sort of like one of the more intimidating ones,
although Crumb and Cedric are also pretty intimidating.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean, to me, I feel like flour is
not necessarily be I mean, I'm not saying you're saying this,
but I think she's not necessarily being intentionally rude. She's
just the one who, like Harry's most feels like he
can't talk to because she's the one who talks to him.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
She's she thinks that she thought he had come to
deliver a message.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Do they want us back in the hall?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right? But it struck him how very tall all of
them were. I guess that's including Flurr. And again she
throws back her sheet of long, silvery hair, which again
like I'm just that's not I'm not getting this like
super hot blonde look from that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But yeah, I don't know. Well, yeah, she and she's
just very like she's kind of I mean, it's partly
just her like above it all attitude. I think that
is intimidating to her. I think you're right, like, she's
not necessarily doing it on purpose, it's just how she
comes across. And she is just honestly very like confused
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by the whole thing, which you can't blame her because
there are supposed to only be three champions and so
it is very odd when Harry comes back there. But
after Bagman says that this is the fourth Triwizard Champion,
She's like, oh, very funny joke, Mista Bagman. And apparently
Bagman has no idea why this is confusing to them.
(09:30):
He's like, joke bewildered, No, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay, He's like, this is not a joke. This is
a gambling opportunity.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But yeah, I guess flirt to me, she just comes
across as the most confident, like for her to be
the one who to ask Harry if if she's or
if he's come to deliver a message, and then to
like react that way to Mista Bagman, like Cedric and
crom are just kind of being strong and silent and
flirts the one who's like so out there with her,
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you know her interactions here.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, so Madam Maxim comes back and Fleur has to
like go straight to her. They're sayings that these little
boys to compete.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Also, Harry is really angry, but it's like you he's
the one who had just thought about how tall, how
very tall, all of them were, so he probably does
look like a little boy next to them.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah. So yeah, and we needless to say, Harry doesn't
quite get a great first impression of Flur, and he
feels very like slighted by her.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
AGARD's cannot have two champions, it's just most.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Unjust well they will have. They will be getting two
bites at sea Apple.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You will under the impression that your age line would
keep out your contestants to do.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, so the heads of the school kind of take
over the conversation for a pages. But at a certain
point then when.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Moody chimes if it and chimes in if anyone's got
a reason to complain, it's potter but funny thing, I
don't hear him saying a word.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Flur has to be.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Like, why should he complain? He has the chance to
compete as and we have all been open to be
chosen for weeks and weeks the honor for our schools.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Okay, thank you forlir.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, I mean, I guess this does put a little
bit of characterization for Flur here that I mean, she is,
first of all like I said, very confident in her
opinions here, but also like it shows why she wanted
to be the champion for her school.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That I mean, it does say a.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Thousand gallions in prize, Buddies, this is such chance many
would die for.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But oh maybe someone's hoping Potter is going to die.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
An extremely tense silence followed these words, yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, but I do think that this is showing just
how competitive Flur is that she sees this as such
an important like that she says it's a chance to
compete like that, that's what's so she's so excited to
be able to do.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Honor for her schools. Yes, yeah, yeah, she definitely you
can see that she's passionate about this, and yeah, I
think that's mainly what her motivation for speaking up is here. Yes, okay,
So after this wonderful scene, the next time that Harry
really interacts much with Flur is during the weighing of
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the wands, And once again, there's a lot of scenes
where Harry kind of I think, is definitely in his
own head about the way that things are happening and
feeling very like feeling intimidated, and it's not necessarily that
the other three are like trying to like be superior
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to Harry. But Harry definitely feels kind of inferior.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes he does, and he just feels like, not just inferior,
but he just feels very like small, I mean, which
is inferior obviously, but like I just think he's so,
like you said, in his head about things, but he
also just kind of I mean, it's kind of like,
you know, a freshman hanging out with seniors. Like it's
I feel like, a pretty realistic thing for him to
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constantly be like realizing how bad he looks.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And it's just because he's younger than them.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Right exactly. So Harry first sees Flur again and that
says she looked a good deal happier than Harry had
seen her so far. I feel like Harry's kind of
judgy of Flur, like he always thinks she has RBF
or something, right, right, So then she's throwing back her
head so that her long silvery hair caught the light.
And then then we have this kind of creepy line,
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a paunchy man holding a large black camera that was smoking,
that was smoking slightly was watching Flour out of the corner.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Of his eye.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, okay, creeper, Okay, back off. She might be like
of age, but she's a student.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
She's seventeen.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, she's a wizard age but yeah right yeah, and
then yeah, Cedric and Flur are. I mean, I guess
this is Harry being a little bit judgy of of
both Cedric and Flour. I think because he's noticing that
Flur looks super happy because she's talking to Cedric.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I kind of noticed as I was like getting ready
for this episode that there's sort of like Harry kind
of thinks that Flur is into Cedric. Yeah, if that's
true or not.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But I mean I think that Flur recognizes that they're
both hot, you know, Like I.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Think it's kind of like recognizes high.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I don't think that they like each other like
that either way, either one of them.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I don't either. But like during the whole Yule Ball
lead up, Harry's like thinks that's that Flur is disappointed
because Cedric's already got a gott it a date to
the ball, and.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It's like, yeah, I think that that's just Harry being
insecure and Harry like making some weird assumptions.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah right, yeah. So anyway, as they are doing the
weighing of the wands, we have Olivander come and take
a look at Fleur's wand and he's he's a he's
a little judgie here. He's like talking about her wand
and he's like and containing, dear me, She's like an
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heir from the head of a villa, one of my grandmothers.
And then Ollivander, Yes, I never used any villa myself.
I find it makes for rather temperamental ones.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, yeah, of course, however, to each his ode, and
if this suits you.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I feel like this is kind of like a sexist take, like, oh,
it's the those Tony Fila women. They're gonna be temperamental.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
H We've talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm getting I'm getting some deja vous from this conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay, well I don't really remember so, but yeah, I
mean Flur this I guess to Harry confirms that if
Flur is part Villa, and he's making a mental note
to tell Ron, then he remembered that Ron wasn't speaking
to him.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Awkward.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I yeah, I have to say that the wording of
this one of my grandmothers is a little bit odd
because she there's three things she could be saying here
a okay, I mean, we have the apostrophe on grandmothers
is after the R and not after the S.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So most likely she's saying that the villa was one
of my grandmothers. Or she could be saying it was
one of my grandmother's hairs.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's how I always interpreted it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But that's so weird to say it like it's an
air from the head of a villa, one air of
my grandmother's.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, well that means the same thing either way.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, it just is a little bit like I don't know,
like I don't know why she would just say my grandmother's.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, she's not a native English speaker, so we have
to excuse some of her construction.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, but yes, okay, flir, she has confirmed she is
part villa.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I wonder, I mean, yeah, I don't wonder that much,
but like, do we you know, does she spend time
with that grandmother ever?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, I wonder if the grandmother is still alive and
if it's traditional to give a hair from a villa head.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Well, I mean it makes for rather temperamental wams.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, exactly, but maybe if it's like a family members,
I wonder if you would have like an extra strong
bond with it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, I was thinking that too.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's kind of like, I mean, Dumbledore having Fox's hair
or feather.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Sorry, yeah, I think it's I think it potentially could
be really powerful that way. But I was to speculate
on Wandlor.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Right, I don't really want to speculate on Wandlor too
much either, But the length of these wands is very
interesting to me that Flour's wand is pretty tiny, nine
and a half inches compared to Cedric's, which is twelve
and a quarter inches.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You know what they say, though.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Hey, that we have Crumb is ten and a quarter
and Harry's eleven. So just feels a little bit like,
I don't know, Cedric's wand seems a little huge.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
But yeah, and it's interesting that Crumbs is shorter than Harry's.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, I don't know, it's odd you'd think his would
be the biggest. Yeah, I would think that.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But all right, then, so then we have one of
my favorite moments of when Harry after Cedric says that
he polished his wand last night, Harry looks down at
his own wand he could see finger marks all over it.
He gathered a fistful of robe from his knee and
tried to rub it clean surreptitiously. Several gold sparks shot
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out of the end of it. Fleur Delacort gave him
a very patronize look.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I love that moment.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't think I've ever really paid too much attention
to Flour's patronizing look too much. I definitely always pay
more attention to just Harry grabbing the fistfull of robes.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I relate to that a lot anytime.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I noticed that my glasses are really dirty and wanting
to clean them with like my T shirt or something.
So yeah, but the patronizing look for Flur is pretty hilarious.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It just like seals the moment of like Harry like
a little kid.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Okay, so then that's There's really only one more moment
with Flur in the wing of the Wand scene, which
is when the photographer continues to be a creep because
he wants to watch you man. He wants to put
Flur at the front of he seemed keen is to
get Flur at the front for the photos, but Rita
Skeeter is wanting Harry to be in the center position.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Right, Yeah, thank you to that creeper photograph.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, when we get we know that you're a weirdo dude.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So anyway, uh so moving on to the first task. Uh,
this will be the next time that we really see
I feel like most of the times that we see Flour,
it's at the different tasks throughout. But leading up to
the first task, Carrie has found out at this point
what what the first task will be that it's dragons,
and he knows that Maxim has seen the dragons, and
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so his assumption is that she will have told Flour
about them, and that does turn out to be correct.
So we have that moment where Harry is kind of
speculating on that. But then in the actual moments leading
up to the challenge or the task, I always catch
myself saying challenge as I'm thinking of Survivor. But Harry's
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kind of observing the different champions reactions, and Fluir looks
very nervous. She's not necessarily like having overly dramatic reactions
to things, but she's she's like shaking as she pulls
out her dragon from the bag.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And she looks pale and clammy. And it says that
Flur and Crumb hadn't reacted at all. Perhaps they thought
they might be sick if they opened their.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Mouths, that is how Harry felt.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
But they at.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Least had volunteered for this, the very ominous ellipses there.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Dot dot.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Okay, so Fleur draws. For some reason, we are following
the rule of ladies first in this, even though that
really has nothing. That doesn't really I don't know why.
So Flur is the just kidding. Yeah, Fleur is the
first one to draw the dragon. She draws out the
perfect model of a Welsh.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Green and Harry.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And Harry knew by the fact that Fleur showed no
sign of a surprise, but rather a determined resignation that
he had been right, Madam Maxim, I told her what
was coming.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Wow, well sleuth, Harry, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah. So Flur is quite nervous as they're standing back there,
and yeah, Harry. It says that Harry feels like more warmly.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
To her than he had up until this point, right,
which I do think is relatable, like seeing some humanity
in hers.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Probably why she's feeling that way.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, and also just like feeling that camaraderie of like
they're the ones in this position, and Flur has been
so confident up until this point, and now it's kind
of the moment of truth and he's saying that, like
you said, some humanity from her.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
He gets to hear Bagman's commentary, Oh, I'm not sure
that was wise.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh nearly careful now, good lord, I thought she'd had
it then.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, so that that's nearly How can it be nearly? Yeah?
So Flur apparently about ten minutes is what it takes
her to get to the egg, So pretty good. A pause.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Well, Flur's marks were being shown more clapping, then for
the third time, the whistle yes.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah. So Harry gets to just listen to all of
this from the tent.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
The summary from Ron is that Flur girl tried this
sort of charm. I think she was trying to put
it in truer tromps, but well that kind of worked too.
It went all sleepy but then snored, and then her
skirt caught fire and she had to put it out
with water.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I'm like, okay, once again, why is she wearing a skirt?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was wondering that too, I really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, maybe like he meant like the hem of her robe,
but yeah, I felt that was weird too.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Skirts not seem like the right outfit for this.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Seemed very like practical. I mean, they're if they're all
wearing robes, it's across the board not practical. But the
fact that it's described as a skirt is very odd.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like I don't agreed, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I guess you gotta look pretty as you're out there
fighting those dragons. Right, So it sounds like Flir did
fine in the first task. Not fantastic, but she did alright.
She was able to hold her own. So the next
time we're going to see a mention of Flur is
really it's kind of it happens kind of off screen.
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It's just Ron and Ginny talking about what just happened,
which is that Ron asked Flur to the mule ball. Sadly,
we don't get to witness this firsthand, but we do
get to hear enough about it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I'm pretty glad that we didn't have this first hand.
And something incredibly awkward.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, so Ron's like in shock in this moment, and
Ginny he just asked Flour to go to the ball
with him and Ron. I don't know what made me
do it. What was I playing at? There were people
all around, and she looked at him like like he
was a c slug or something.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Such a random comparison.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, So then Harry says, she's part Viela. You were right,
her grandmother was one. It wasn't your fault. I bet
you just walked past when she was turning on the
old charm for diggery and got a blast of it,
a blast of it. She was wasting her time. He's
going with Cho Chang.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I asked him to go with me now, he said, dully,
and she told me.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
So I don't think that Flour was putting on the
old charm for diggery. No, I just think, yeah, I
think the two of them.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Were talking, and Harry just assumed they were flirting because
they're both pretty.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, and again I don't I don't necessarily think it
takes a blast of the charm for Ron to, you know,
think she's pretty?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
No? Is that what he is?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
How you read that line? The blost of it?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, yeah, that is that Harry caught a blast or
sorry that Ron caught a blast of this charm that
she was putting on.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, okay, I guess I guess that's you're right. I
never really thought about that, but I think that is
probably what I thought it was.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I thought it was yes, I get it. I was saying.
I thought it was some weird British phrase of like
putting on the old charm. But I think you're right.
It was a villa charm.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, like putting on her villa charms. Right, Yeah, So anyway, yes, okay,
Harry's Harry's interpretation. I don't know. Maybe that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But I don't think I think Harry again is just
seeing two pretty people and it's like he assumes they're
flirting because of the fact that they're both pretty.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Right, So in the lead up to the work, there's
that's pretty privilege for you. So in the Yewle Ball
or sorry, in the lead up to the Yule Ball,
we see flour one time. It's like winter's fallen and
they're having some delicious winter food and apparently only Fleur
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de la Cour seemed to be able to find anything
to plain about.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It is too heavy on this Hogwarts food.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I will not fit into my dress.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Robes and oh there's a tragedy. She really thinks a
lot of herself that one, doesn't she.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, so they're not very polite about Flour there. Oh,
but I guess she's also Flur's not also being super
polite about the food that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
She's been Well, the house helps down in the kitchen,
we're out doing themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah. So at the actual Yule Ball, you're gonna we're
gonna see Flour quite a few times with her date,
Roger Davies, and she's just, you know, looking stunning. She's
in her robes of silver gray. Once again, that's silver.
That's that's her color.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I guess so for a dress it makes sense that
just the hair is odd to me, but whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, apparently Roger Davies just looks so like pleased with
himself for having snagged her as a date that he
can like hardly even believe it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, Rodger Davies is a fun kind of running joke
in these like the fourth and fifth books, like the
Roger Davies being Flour's date here and then the like
weird interactions with Flur or with Choe in this fifth
book and at Madam Putty foots and stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, he's kind of a player, he gets around.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, but he's also kind of just like awkward too, which.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, yeah, he seems to kind of be in the
right place at the right time for himself a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, we all know Flour really wanted to go with Diggery, right.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
According to Harry, she.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Was wasting her time. He's going with Joe Chang.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So we see him as her date a few different
times throughout this night. As they're sitting there at the dinner,
Flour is being very dismissive of all of the great
hall decorations.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
This is not this is nothing. It's the Palace of
bo Batten's. We have we have ice sculptures all around
the dining chamber at Christmas. They do not melt, of course,
they are like huge statues of diamond.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And then and then yeah, Roder Davies was watching her
talk with a very dazed look on his face.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Get missing his mouth with his fork.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Because after she goes she's talking about the Poulter guys.
She said, if ifa Polter guys ever entered into Bo
bo Batten, he would be expelled like Za and then uh,
Roger absolutely right, slapping his own hand on the table
like that, he has no idea what she's saying.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So also, why is Harry listening to this whole conversation creeper?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, Harry, maybe focus on your own date.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
She's dancing with the bo Batons boys.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
She's out, she's out jamming to the Weird Sisters.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Not at the actually, but he's being a little bit nosy.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
And I know we've talked about this before, but I
do want to give a little disclaimer that A I
don't think I can do a French accent, and B
I don't think that the author writes a very good
French accent.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So yeah, I'm glad you're saying that, because I know
we've talked about it before, but it probably bears repeating.
We're we're not making fun of French people here when
we're talking doing this accent.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Were I'm literally waiting as how Yeah, and also, I
don't think that bo Batten's is supposed to be pronounced
that way.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's not it's not a matter of what we think,
it's a fact that it's not supposed to be pronounced
that way.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'm not quite sure why the movie decided to make it.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But yeah, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So anyhow, we've seen Flour at the Yule Ball a
few different times. I think, like this is just showing again.
I know you've you like, we're fans of Flour generally,
but I do think that like we're seeing kind of
a negative side of her where she's she is kind
of stuck up. I mean that's she's very like her
expectations of things are extremely high, and she thinks she
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does seem to, you know, really be thinking that bo
Batten's is so much better than Hogwarts, right, And I.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Mean when you say we're friends of Floor, I think
we're sorry. When you say we're fans of Flour, I
think that what we are is we're fans of her
growth in the series. And this is just obviously she's
at her most immature state in this book.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Right, right. So we see her just a few more
times here, mainly with Roger Davies as Harry is out
on the grounds eavesdropping on Hagrid and Madame Maxim.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
They're having a good night.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, they keep on hanging out in the clumps of
rose bushes and sinking half concealed into the rose bushes.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, they get knocked out of a rose bush as well,
Because after Madame Maxine, Oh.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Dare you her voice exploded through the peaceful night air
like a foghorn behind him, Harry Flour and Rocher fall
out of their rose bush.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
A rose bush does not seem like the right place
to be fooling around in the secret. I'm sorry, especially
at night.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Like how can you get stabbed?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah exactly, Yeah, I mean I'm not. I I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I can't speak from experience here, but I can speak
from experience about falling into a rose bush, and I'll
tell you it's not fun.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I think maybe like, choose another plant, if yeah,
like a lilac bush. Choose another plant, another plant, even
the womping willow wouldn't be just kidding, no, no, But
I think like there's plenty of plants that aren't covered in.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Poky thorns, right exactly. I mean, I know roses are
romantic or whatever, but is it worth it? I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I also like any honestly, any like bush of like
some kind of plant is not going to be that
comfortable because like the sticks on it and stuff, we're
gonna be Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Plus Rita Skeeter's in there. Yeah, they don't know that
that's true.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
What she is true. Okay, Well, we're going to resume
our conversation about Flur and talk about her in the
second and third tasks, and in just a second and
first we're going to take a quick break for a
word from our sponsors. Okay. So, after Fluur's adventures at
the Yule Ball, the next time we really see her
is at the second task. And this is I think
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this is a turning point for her because we have
Harry's relationship will be shifting with her shortly his going
into the task, he has this like kind of vision
of people being disappointed in him and not knowing what
to do, and he hasn't. He has this like idea
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of what Flur would say. I knew it.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
He is too young. He is only a little boy.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
To be fair to Flur. That's just Harry's imagination. We
don't know if she really would say that or not.
Right right, I thought that was funny.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
He is only a little boy.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
But during the actual task, I guess when Harry arrives,
he kind of comes to the task like very chaotically,
arrives like a little bit late. And he runs in
and he skids to a halt in the mud and
splatters Flour's robes with mud. Big mistake, huge, Yeah, she's
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the of course, it's the last person you'd want to
splatter mud on. Well, I'd probably rather splatter mud on
her than Crumb. Yeah, I don't know, though, she's so prissy.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, we don't actually see her reaction surprisingly.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, I know, I am surprised by that too.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Just where have you been? The toss about to start
from the.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Cranky old Percy is there to kill the food. Yeah.
So anyway, we we have Harry participating in the task.
We don't really see Flur in the task, so we
don't get to directly see what happens with Segrindilos.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
She couldn't get away from Scrittos.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
But we see Harry with the with the different hostages,
and he's, you know, he sees Gabrielle and he knows
this must be Flour's sister, and he's very worried about her,
and he spends quite a bit of time like wondering
where Flur is and whether he should take Gabrielle or not.
But he finally does take take Gabrielle with him and
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take her exactly saves her life because she definitely would
have died otherwise.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Well, yes, it's obviously not a Harry character study here,
but I still think it's very nice moment for Harry.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, and I do think like I don't know if
they told Flur when she got up to shore, Like
it doesn't feel like they told her Gabrielle to be fine.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I don't think they told her that she is so
freaked out, and that's really like damaging fruit.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I mean, like I get why Harry believes that they're
all in danger. I guess like they've been told all
year like try was a tournament so dangerous, like people.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Have like people die in this yeah, exactly, Yeah, and
so anyway, she it says, when Harry arrives at the shore,
Madame Maxim is trying to restrain Flour, who was quite hysterical,
fighting tooth and nail to return to the water. I
feel like they needed to say to her, Like I
don't think anybody said to her, Gabrielle will be fine
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one or the other.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Of course, nobody said like why would she be reacting
that way? If if that's what they told her. Like,
I think it's very clear they did not tell her,
and I think that that was really irresponsible to tell her.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Once she's been disqualified to say, like.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Your score is going to be highly affected by this,
but just so you know your your sister's safe, like yeah,
your sister will be okay.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, because flur Go she breaks free of Madame Maxim
and starts hugging her sister. It was Secrindilos they attacked me.
I thought, Yeah, I thought, so she's super worried.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
It's very sad, honestly, I mean, like the only possibility
is I could maybe see that she was so panicked
that she couldn't hear them when they told her, like
they maybe her.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Or that they told her and she just didn't didn't
believe that.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like worried, like okay, well until I
see her, I'm not gonna yeah, it's actually safe. Like yeah,
like I said that maybe they tried to tell her
and she was just so focused on like waiting for
her to return that it was like yeah, I mean again,
I'm being pretty generous with this interpretation. I really don't
think she knows.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah I told her, Yeah, so. I mean, then we
get this moment where Flur comes up to She's still
really like worked up. It says that she has many
cuts on her face and arms, and her robes were torn,
but she didn't seem to care, nor would she allow
Madame Palmfrey to clean them. She just she wants to
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go thank Harry, and she says, you saved her even
though she was not your hostage.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And you you elped.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Ron. Yeah, yeah a bit.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Flor swooped down on him too, and kissed him like
how she swooped Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And how Flour has to bend down to kiss Harry
twice on each cheek. She must be really tall.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I mean Harry was very struck by how tall
they all were.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So yeah, so, and Harry's heartily wishing he'd left all
three girls tied to the statue. After Flour kisses Ron,
Hermione looked simply furious.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But I also like how Harry when Flour kissed Harry twice,
he felt his face burn and wouldn't have been surprised
if steam was coming.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Out of his ears? Again? What does it mean again?
When was the last time steam was coming? I mean,
I guess when.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
When I was gonna say when he had those pepper
up potion sweets.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
But that's not what he's referring to, right, There's gonna
be something no idea.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Was there see coming out of his eyes when he
took the out of his ears when he took the gillyweed.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I don't think So.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
That's not how that works, not that one, not that all.
He needs a train all of a sudden, I got
some good fun.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah. So anyhow, Flour gets awarded twenty five points because
she she demonstrated excellent use of the bubble head charm,
was attacked by Grindilow's as she approached her goal and
failed to retrieve her hostage, and her eye deserved zero. Yeah. Yeah,
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this is a definitely like we're on the start of
the redemption arc for Flour. Here you can definitely see
how much she loves her little sister, which is very sweet,
and she's very like she's humble. Here she knows like
she didn't perform well, even though it doesn't really sound
like it's super her fault, because no, I mean the
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Grendilow's attacked her. I guess you should have hopefully been
able to ward them off.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yes, she couldn't get away from them. She almost died.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's funny because she's pretty.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's funny because it's probably because she's been eating all
this heavy Hogwarts food and she couldn't get away.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
She really thinks a lot of herself, doesn't she.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, okay, Well, anyway, it seems like this makes a
huge impact on Flour's like way that she interacts with
Harry from now on, because the next time Harry sees her,
she beams at him and she's just like, she's really
nice to Harry. Now she's never gonna forget what Harry
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did for her.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah. I like that too.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I mean I think like it's a little bit ridiculous
how over the top she is with it, but yeah,
I like, I think it just as a result of,
you know, how much she loves her sister and showing
just like, you know, she's capable of change, right, she.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Still has a little bit of that snobby streak to her,
because when Bagman is showing them the maze for the
third task, she's.
Speaker 9 (41:36):
Like, we seimply have to get through as a maze,
simple as that. It's like, yep, and we're going to
see how well you're going to do shortly here, right, exactly. Yeah,
we see her just a few more times because when
we do get to the maze, she does not do
very well.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I'm not really her fault either, because that's thanks to
uh jr. Attacking her from the outside of the maze, right.
But we do get to see her with her family
in the lead up to the maze. Apparently Harry thinks
she's jabbering away to her mother, which I'm like, that's
not a very nice description. No, it's sort of like
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I feel like he's doing a little bit of xenophobia there,
like she's speaking another language or she's jabbering yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Or sexism, like oh, the two women are just sitting
there yapping.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
But okay, and Gabrielle is there again, and she's holding
her mother's hand and she waves at Harry. Harry waved back, grinning.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Okay, Harry, what else was he gonna do?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah. Flur then sees Bill because Bill and Missus Weasley
have showed up to watch the task, and Fleur de
la cour Harry noticed, was eyeing Bill with great interest
over her mother's shoulder. Yeah, Harry could tell.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
She had no objection whatsoever to long hair earrings with
fangs on them.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, well, let's be fair.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Does that's cool?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, well, I was gonna say, to be fair, anybody
in the same room as Bill is gonna be eyeing
him with great interest because he is cool. Yeah, no kidding,
but yeah, I guess that the seeds were planted here.
But it's actually pretty much right away, like in the
fifth book, is when they're dating, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I think so, it's kind of yeah, it is kind
of isn't it really more the sixth book that she
that we see her a lot, but they talk about
it a bit in the fifth.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Book, yeah, they because yeah, that's when Fred's like smirking
about how Bill took a job like back in England
so that he could work with Florid Della Corps so
she can't prove her English.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yeah yeah, I mean, so, yes, we do get we
this is our first sign of it. But yeah, they
definitely hit it off right away, which is cute. I mean,
that's typical of this. It's a little bit. Yeah, everybody
moves very quickly and it's a little bit and they
look at they fall in love, right.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It is a little bit odd given the fact that
she's still in school.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
But I guess that is just how the world works there.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, well she isn't she about to graduate?
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, and still she is a student though, That's why
it's a little bit weird.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that Bill and Floor
get together until she's done with school.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
But yeah, no, I don't either, but you know, he's
showing interest in her.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I agree, I agree. I'm just saying I think that's
the one way we kind of get around that.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Well, I agree to.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
I'm not saying anything negative about Bill because he's the
coolest person ever, but I'm just saying it's a little
bit weird.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, the age difference is definitely there, considering Bill has
been out of school for like three or four years
at least I think five or six, because Charlie has
been out of school sif the truth, Yeah, yeah, Bill is.
The age differences in this world don't really plain.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I think he's supposed to be about five years older
than Floor maybe sick, so he's supposed to be like
twenty three in this scene.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
But it's it's different.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Well, yeah, that's for sure, And obviously, yeah, I'm not I.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Think that the world is different than it is for us.
But yeah, I mean, ah, but in the Wizarding World,
we come of age at seventeen.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I'm with Petunia on that one.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah. Okay, So, like I said, Flir does not really
last very long in the Maze. Harry hears her scream
and he's he's sure it's her, but yeah, he's a
little worried about her. But at the same time, he
couldn't help thinking one champion.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Okay, so we don't actually see what happened to her there,
but later when Junior is doing his whole confession, he
says that he stunned Flir in the Maze, and so
then at that point she was taken out Master body No, yeah,
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Master Bardi was very naughty.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yes, he's been a bad boy.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah. So then we see Flur like twice more in
this book, one time at the end of your Feast,
and she's there kind of we see her kind of
as a in a symbolic moment when Dumbledore is giving
his final speech about Cedric and about how we have
friends in the in the Wizarding World across the world,
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and we look and we see Flur and the fellow
bit Bo Batton's students and Crumb and the derm strings.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
And so.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
No Karkaroff has fled. But we see her and it's
kind of like a you know, like I said, a
bit of a symbolic moment, and I do think like
it ends up being pretty like, I don't know, just
impactful that she was here for that year and that
she knew Cedric. I think that that does impact how
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she ends up kind of being part of the order.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
I think that this moment where he says the thing
about you know, ties are being more important than ever
ties to people across the world and stuff at the
Wizarding World, Like, it is a really important moment and
sets up a lot of the future books.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, and then we see her one last time when
she comes to say goodbye to Harry. We will see
each other again, I hope. I am hoping to get
a job here to improve my English.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I like how the author just takes that exact same
phrase for next book where they talk about her.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, it's very good already, said Ron.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
It is very good. I mean it is fluent English.
She just has an al Hermione scowls. How dare he
say something complimentary. It is a little how he said
it in a sort of strangled, a strangled sort of voice.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Fleur smiled at him.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Hermione scowled, goodbye, Harry, it has been a pleasure meeting you.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Harry's spirits couldn't help but lift slightly as he watched
Flur hurry back across the lawns, sylver hair, silvery hair
rippling in the sunlight.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Oh, your spirit does lift when you see that.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yes, it sure does. She must have turned on the
old charm for him.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah. So, anyhow, that is the end of Flour's arc
in this fourth book. We still have a long way
to go with Flour as far as like developing her character.
I will say like she got a bit more deep
as this as this book went on, but she still
was a fairly flat character.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I think it's partially because we get Hermione, like it
takes a long time for Hermione to warm to her,
And yeah, I think that we usually trust hermione judgment
and on this one we don't. But yeah, I feel
like that's part of why her growth arc doesn't happen
until later from the reader's perspective, because it's like Hermione
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is so judgy of her that we kind of assume
that we're supposed to agree with her.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
She's not even being that bad, Like, yeah, agreed. I
think like sometimes I definitely used to fall into trusting
Hermione's judgment on people when it's not always the case
that we.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Should exactly well, lupid and tonks big or sorry tonks
and serious big case numbers one and two.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, and also, uh tongks is that what you said?
Tongs and serious?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (49:40):
I thought you said florid serious for a second. I
was like, yeah and tongs. But yeah, don't you think
she was a bit in love with him?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Well that's Harry who says that, let's be clear, it's
their fault that he died.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, according, But yeah, no, Hermione has flaws as well,
and so I think, like sometimes she's overly judgmental of people,
and this is one of those situations, and I think.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Flour Actually there is a character that Harry comes around
on more quickly, and he's he's actually the better judge
of her character in this instance than Hermione is Greed agreed, Yeah,
And he knows her, he knows her way better than
ro Well we assume that he's just like booty blinded
or something, which is what Hermione also assumes. But the
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more we read this, like the more it's like, I
really don't think that's the case. Like I don't think
Harry is always intimidated by Floor, but I really don't
think he's ever actually into Floor.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, agreed. Okay, Well, let's go ahead and do our
rating of flour for this book, and then we'll resume
our conversation about her soon. What would you give her
her heart in this book? I would I kind of
feel like she should get like at least a three,
like due to her Gabrielle thing and I mean Harry
at the end.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I think probably a three or four because her passion
for competing and stuff too.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, okay, let's give her a four.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Humor. I think a lot of times she has some
unintentional humor.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
She's not necessarily like cracking jokes, but she's funny at times.
I mean, probably like a two.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, A lot of the humor comes from like Harry
being awkward.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
I'm trying exactly.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Uniqueness and creativity.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Pretty low, honestly.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
I mean, she kind of does fill a unique role
I think her depth is pretty low at this point,
but there's not really very many characters like her. But
at the same time, she's not also super like super creative.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, so uniqueness is good, but creativity not so great.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, so I guess maybe three.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, okay, and then depth I would put it at
like a two. Yeah, I think so too, because we
all we really know about her is that she's fairly
good at magic and she cares a lot about her sister.
That's really all we know.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
At this point. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
And she's kind of a snob and that she thinks
a lot of herself, doesn't she that one?
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Okay, Well, that's eleven points for Flur, so we'll see.
I think she's going to get more points as we go.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I think.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
But yeah, we will be continuing the flour conversation, the
fluor versation, confrosation, the confirsation will be continuing. Or do
you think we're gonna keep going with this like right away?
Or are you thinking we're gonna do someone page At
the Times before scheduled to do a.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Take five next week, but we've been scheduled to do
a lot of take fives in the past that haven't happened,
so we'll see.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Stay tuned, is all I can say.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, I think we'll be doing at least one more
part of Flur. I'm not sure if there might be
two more parts on her, just knowing how we are
and we don't. We don't want to rush the proper eulogy, but.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Right we have to properly which eyes.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Her Okay, So just stay tuned. We will continue that
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Please stand up, Please stand up, Please stand up,
Fleur Delacour Part one.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
May I have your attention?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Please? May I have your attention? Please?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Well, the real Weird Sisters, please stand up. We're gonna
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Were the real Weird Sisters? All you are the Weird Sisters.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Are fine and not the victors. Well, the real Weird Sisters,
please stand up, please stand up, Please stand up.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hi, and welcome to the Real Weird Sisters. I'm Alice
and I'm Martha, and today we're here to talk about
Fleur Delacour in the first fourth book, So the first
Flour book, to be fair, Yes, for her first book,
Harry's fourth book. Yes, And there is plenty of actually
to talk about with Flur. And I'm looking forward to
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getting back into the character studies. It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It has been a while, and I just know there
were a lot of people just chomp pick up the
bit for the character studies to return. So we're back.
Don't worry. Does not mean that we're gonna be done
with one page at a time or take five. It's
just another another type of show. But like you said,
there is a lot of flour content in the fourth book.
Surprisingly to me because she never won the real weirdo
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in book four.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, she's she's in there quite a bit, but she
never really has like a standout moment. I think there's
other other people that are bigger personalities in the room.
But you know, we're laying the groundwork for her to
get that real weirdo in the sixth book finally.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yes, yeah, Chapter twenty nine of the sixth book is
where she finally gets it, which I think is when
she and Missus Wesley have their will cooked steak revaciliation.
But for those who are wondering, don't worry. We I
know we skipped some real weirdos here. We skipped Wilkie Dunghead, Twycross,
we skipped Demelsa, Seguini, Celestina Warback, be Cousin, Fergus, all
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of them.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Sanguini didn't we do him at some point? I feel
like we did.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I think we talked about doing him, but I don't
think we did.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Let's let's slay well, no we did not, Okay, Okay,
I talked about doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Talk about Sanguine a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, but yeah, there's a lot of sixth book real
weirdos that we skipped over to get to the kind
of heavy hitters, and Floor was the last one on
the list. And honestly, I mean we're kind of getting
to the end of the real weirdos when it comes
to the like main power players. Like I said, there's
a few in the seventh book that will definitely be
able to do.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
A whole episode on.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But the other thing is, we've never done character studies
on people who didn't get the real weirdo, who were
like evil people, you know, like Bellatrix, and right, she's
the main one I thought of.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But yeah, jug stuff to do or Jughead whatever, Jugs
not Jughead Archie and Jughead. We never did one on
them either.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, we didn't, and I don't think we will be
many times.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But Jugson he for sure gets a real weirdo.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh yeah, he would have probably about ten or fifteen parts.
Yeah that Juxstall actually did get the real word Ow'll
he oh probably?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh no, he knowing us, knowing how weird we were
getting with our selections towards the end of Prise.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Surprisingly he did not win the real wordo. And honestly,
our Deathly Hallows list of real weirdos is a little
bit more normal than it was the sixth book, where
we went a little off the rails.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, well, anyway, I think we mainly selected Floor so
that I would have to say her name a whole
bunch of times and potentially have to do an impression
of her. But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I think that that's kind of the reason. But
also because the real weird sister's discussing Flour is a
great tongue twister.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, lots of ours, and I don't I mean, I'm
fully admitting that I don't think I have a wonderful
pronunciation of her name.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, yeah, true, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But all right, well, without further ado, let's go ahead
and talk about Flour. In the fourth book. We the
first time that we really get to know who she
is is when her name gets called by Dumbledore out
of the Goblet and so. But there is reference at
the fact that they've they've seen her before, because it
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they describe her as the girl who looks who so
resembled a villa, like they they've they've noticed her before,
but they didn't know what her name was until she
was selected.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It Ron's reaction is like, it's her, Well, I guess
that's Harry, who says it, but yeah, they've been her,
watching her forever and her money. Oh look, they're all disappointed, and.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All the other girls from bo Baton from bou Batten's
are It says two of the girls who had not
been selected had dissolved into tears and were sobbing with
their heads on their arms. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That, I feel like that's kind of an unfinished narrative
of like why. I mean, I guess they all just
wanted to be the person themselves.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I don't know if this is some sort of like
rude stereotype from the author about like French girls being
overly dramatic or something. I don't know if that's really
a thing or not, but it feels like it's sort of.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I think that is kind of a stereotype.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And I also like, I think we're supposed to think
that Floor is not that likable, but I mean, which
she's not in this book, but I yeah, it kind
of fades into the background pretty quickly, like this whole
the rest of bo Batton's not wanting Floor to be
the champion. I think I think it's supposed to be
they just wanted themselves like they wouldn't they would have
been upset whoever it was, if it wasn't themselves.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, and I think that like part of it is
just that we really don't see that any of anybody
else from bo Battons like ever again, right, so.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Ah, but yeah, but that's why it's like a weird
detail to include here when it doesn't ever come back.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, and flur Flour's description, I just wanted to quickly
touch on this before we move on to the next
scene with her, but it does. It describes her as
having a sheet of silvery blonde hair. So We've talked
a little bit about how Flour is not really portrayed
very book accurately in the movies, but I think that's
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one way, Like she does not have silvery blonde hair
in the movies.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, and silvery blonde hair is really hard for me
to picture because silvery blonde hair feels very like glamorous
old woman to me, like silvery like if any like
I don't know, I guess Vila are supposed to have
like a silvery sheen to their skin, so that's like
why she has the silvery hair as well. But to me,
I'm like picturing like, I don't know, miss Cracker an
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old lady drag from from from Boll Drag Race. Anybody
familiar with or no, sorry not miss Cracker Aquaria. Yeah,
I don't know the silvery blonde I'm picturing.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, it's it's tough for me to picture exactly what
that's supposed to mean either, but other than just maybe
like a like a white blonde. Yeah, but that's different feeling.
I know, it's it's a strange description. I think it
is the villa piece that's coming forward in that.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, I guess it just doesn't seem that beautiful to me.
But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well, you haven't been around a villa before, have you?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
That is true?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah? Okay, So anyway, Flur is selected as the champion
and Harry is in a very different mood here where
he's kind of like that's her to Ron versus a
second later, once he gets selected and has to interact
with Flur, and he's like shell shocked. And so Harry
walks into that side room where the three other champions are,
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and Flur is I would say, out of the three
of them, like Harry sees them as strangely impressive, but
I feel like she's almost like she's the rudest to
him and sort of like one of the more intimidating ones,
although Crumb and Cedric are also pretty intimidating.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean, to me, I feel like flour is
not necessarily be I mean, I'm not saying you're saying this,
but I think she's not necessarily being intentionally rude. She's
just the one who, like Harry's most feels like he
can't talk to because she's the one who talks to him.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
She's she thinks that she thought he had come to
deliver a message.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Do they want us back in the hall?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right? But it struck him how very tall all of
them were. I guess that's including Flurr. And again she
throws back her sheet of long, silvery hair, which again
like I'm just that's not I'm not getting this like
super hot blonde look from that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But yeah, I don't know. Well, yeah, she and she's
just very like she's kind of I mean, it's partly
just her like above it all attitude. I think that
is intimidating to her. I think you're right, like, she's
not necessarily doing it on purpose, it's just how she
comes across. And she is just honestly very like confused
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by the whole thing, which you can't blame her because
there are supposed to only be three champions and so
it is very odd when Harry comes back there. But
after Bagman says that this is the fourth Triwizard Champion,
She's like, oh, very funny joke, Mista Bagman. And apparently
Bagman has no idea why this is confusing to them.
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He's like, joke bewildered, No, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay, He's like, this is not a joke. This is
a gambling opportunity.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But yeah, I guess flirt to me, she just comes
across as the most confident, like for her to be
the one who to ask Harry if if she's or
if he's come to deliver a message, and then to
like react that way to Mista Bagman, like Cedric and
crom are just kind of being strong and silent and
flirts the one who's like so out there with her,
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you know her interactions here.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, so Madam Maxim comes back and Fleur has to
like go straight to her. They're sayings that these little
boys to compete.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Also, Harry is really angry, but it's like you he's
the one who had just thought about how tall, how
very tall, all of them were, so he probably does
look like a little boy next to them.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah. So yeah, and we needless to say, Harry doesn't
quite get a great first impression of Flur, and he
feels very like slighted by her.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
AGARD's cannot have two champions, it's just most.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Unjust well they will have. They will be getting two
bites at sea Apple.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You will under the impression that your age line would
keep out your contestants to do.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, so the heads of the school kind of take
over the conversation for a pages. But at a certain
point then when.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Moody chimes if it and chimes in if anyone's got
a reason to complain, it's potter but funny thing, I
don't hear him saying a word.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Flur has to be.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Like, why should he complain? He has the chance to
compete as and we have all been open to be
chosen for weeks and weeks the honor for our schools.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Okay, thank you forlir.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, I mean, I guess this does put a little
bit of characterization for Flur here that I mean, she is,
first of all like I said, very confident in her
opinions here, but also like it shows why she wanted
to be the champion for her school.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That I mean, it does say a.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Thousand gallions in prize, Buddies, this is such chance many
would die for.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But oh maybe someone's hoping Potter is going to die.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
An extremely tense silence followed these words, yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, but I do think that this is showing just
how competitive Flur is that she sees this as such
an important like that she says it's a chance to
compete like that, that's what's so she's so excited to
be able to do.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Honor for her schools. Yes, yeah, yeah, she definitely you
can see that she's passionate about this, and yeah, I
think that's mainly what her motivation for speaking up is here. Yes, okay,
So after this wonderful scene, the next time that Harry
really interacts much with Flur is during the weighing of
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the wands, And once again, there's a lot of scenes
where Harry kind of I think, is definitely in his
own head about the way that things are happening and
feeling very like feeling intimidated, and it's not necessarily that
the other three are like trying to like be superior
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to Harry. But Harry definitely feels kind of inferior.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes he does, and he just feels like, not just inferior,
but he just feels very like small, I mean, which
is inferior obviously, but like I just think he's so,
like you said, in his head about things, but he
also just kind of I mean, it's kind of like,
you know, a freshman hanging out with seniors. Like it's
I feel like, a pretty realistic thing for him to
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constantly be like realizing how bad he looks.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And it's just because he's younger than them.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Right exactly. So Harry first sees Flur again and that
says she looked a good deal happier than Harry had
seen her so far. I feel like Harry's kind of
judgy of Flur, like he always thinks she has RBF
or something, right, right, So then she's throwing back her
head so that her long silvery hair caught the light.
And then then we have this kind of creepy line,
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a paunchy man holding a large black camera that was smoking,
that was smoking slightly was watching Flour out of the corner.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Of his eye.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, okay, creeper, Okay, back off. She might be like
of age, but she's a student.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
She's seventeen.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, she's a wizard age but yeah right yeah, and
then yeah, Cedric and Flur are. I mean, I guess
this is Harry being a little bit judgy of of
both Cedric and Flour. I think because he's noticing that
Flur looks super happy because she's talking to Cedric.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I kind of noticed as I was like getting ready
for this episode that there's sort of like Harry kind
of thinks that Flur is into Cedric. Yeah, if that's
true or not.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But I mean I think that Flur recognizes that they're
both hot, you know, Like I.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Think it's kind of like recognizes high.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I don't think that they like each other like
that either way, either one of them.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I don't either. But like during the whole Yule Ball
lead up, Harry's like thinks that's that Flur is disappointed
because Cedric's already got a gott it a date to
the ball, and.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It's like, yeah, I think that that's just Harry being
insecure and Harry like making some weird assumptions.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah right, yeah. So anyway, as they are doing the
weighing of the wands, we have Olivander come and take
a look at Fleur's wand and he's he's a he's
a little judgie here. He's like talking about her wand
and he's like and containing, dear me, She's like an
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heir from the head of a villa, one of my grandmothers.
And then Ollivander, Yes, I never used any villa myself.
I find it makes for rather temperamental ones.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, yeah, of course, however, to each his ode, and
if this suits you.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I feel like this is kind of like a sexist take, like, oh,
it's the those Tony Fila women. They're gonna be temperamental.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
H We've talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'm getting I'm getting some deja vous from this conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay, well I don't really remember so, but yeah, I
mean Flur this I guess to Harry confirms that if
Flur is part Villa, and he's making a mental note
to tell Ron, then he remembered that Ron wasn't speaking
to him.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Awkward.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I yeah, I have to say that the wording of
this one of my grandmothers is a little bit odd
because she there's three things she could be saying here
a okay, I mean, we have the apostrophe on grandmothers
is after the R and not after the S.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So most likely she's saying that the villa was one
of my grandmothers. Or she could be saying it was
one of my grandmother's hairs.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's how I always interpreted it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But that's so weird to say it like it's an
air from the head of a villa, one air of
my grandmother's.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, well that means the same thing either way.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, it just is a little bit like I don't know,
like I don't know why she would just say my grandmother's.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, she's not a native English speaker, so we have
to excuse some of her construction.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, but yes, okay, flir, she has confirmed she is
part villa.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I wonder, I mean, yeah, I don't wonder that much,
but like, do we you know, does she spend time
with that grandmother ever?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, I wonder if the grandmother is still alive and
if it's traditional to give a hair from a villa head.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Well, I mean it makes for rather temperamental wams.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, exactly, but maybe if it's like a family members,
I wonder if you would have like an extra strong
bond with it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, I was thinking that too.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's kind of like, I mean, Dumbledore having Fox's hair
or feather.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Sorry, yeah, I think it's I think it potentially could
be really powerful that way. But I was to speculate
on Wandlor.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Right, I don't really want to speculate on Wandlor too
much either, But the length of these wands is very
interesting to me that Flour's wand is pretty tiny, nine
and a half inches compared to Cedric's, which is twelve
and a quarter inches.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You know what they say, though.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Hey, that we have Crumb is ten and a quarter
and Harry's eleven. So just feels a little bit like,
I don't know, Cedric's wand seems a little huge.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
But yeah, and it's interesting that Crumbs is shorter than Harry's.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, I don't know, it's odd you'd think his would
be the biggest. Yeah, I would think that.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But all right, then, so then we have one of
my favorite moments of when Harry after Cedric says that
he polished his wand last night, Harry looks down at
his own wand he could see finger marks all over it.
He gathered a fistful of robe from his knee and
tried to rub it clean surreptitiously. Several gold sparks shot
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out of the end of it. Fleur Delacort gave him
a very patronize look.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I love that moment.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't think I've ever really paid too much attention
to Flour's patronizing look too much. I definitely always pay
more attention to just Harry grabbing the fistfull of robes.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I relate to that a lot anytime.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I noticed that my glasses are really dirty and wanting
to clean them with like my T shirt or something.
So yeah, but the patronizing look for Flur is pretty hilarious.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It just like seals the moment of like Harry like
a little kid.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Okay, so then that's There's really only one more moment
with Flur in the wing of the Wand scene, which
is when the photographer continues to be a creep because
he wants to watch you man. He wants to put
Flur at the front of he seemed keen is to
get Flur at the front for the photos, but Rita
Skeeter is wanting Harry to be in the center position.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Right, Yeah, thank you to that creeper photograph.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, when we get we know that you're a weirdo dude.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So anyway, uh so moving on to the first task. Uh,
this will be the next time that we really see
I feel like most of the times that we see Flour,
it's at the different tasks throughout. But leading up to
the first task, Carrie has found out at this point
what what the first task will be that it's dragons,
and he knows that Maxim has seen the dragons, and
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so his assumption is that she will have told Flour
about them, and that does turn out to be correct.
So we have that moment where Harry is kind of
speculating on that. But then in the actual moments leading
up to the challenge or the task, I always catch
myself saying challenge as I'm thinking of Survivor. But Harry's
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kind of observing the different champions reactions, and Fluir looks
very nervous. She's not necessarily like having overly dramatic reactions
to things, but she's she's like shaking as she pulls
out her dragon from the bag.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And she looks pale and clammy. And it says that
Flur and Crumb hadn't reacted at all. Perhaps they thought
they might be sick if they opened their.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Mouths, that is how Harry felt.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
But they at.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Least had volunteered for this, the very ominous ellipses there.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Dot dot.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Okay, so Fleur draws. For some reason, we are following
the rule of ladies first in this, even though that
really has nothing. That doesn't really I don't know why.
So Flur is the just kidding. Yeah, Fleur is the
first one to draw the dragon. She draws out the
perfect model of a Welsh.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Green and Harry.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And Harry knew by the fact that Fleur showed no
sign of a surprise, but rather a determined resignation that
he had been right, Madam Maxim, I told her what
was coming.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Wow, well sleuth, Harry, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah. So Flur is quite nervous as they're standing back there,
and yeah, Harry. It says that Harry feels like more warmly.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
To her than he had up until this point, right,
which I do think is relatable, like seeing some humanity
in hers.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Probably why she's feeling that way.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, and also just like feeling that camaraderie of like
they're the ones in this position, and Flur has been
so confident up until this point, and now it's kind
of the moment of truth and he's saying that, like
you said, some humanity from her.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
He gets to hear Bagman's commentary, Oh, I'm not sure
that was wise.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh nearly careful now, good lord, I thought she'd had
it then.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, so that that's nearly How can it be nearly? Yeah?
So Flur apparently about ten minutes is what it takes
her to get to the egg, So pretty good. A pause.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Well, Flur's marks were being shown more clapping, then for
the third time, the whistle yes.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah. So Harry gets to just listen to all of
this from the tent.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
The summary from Ron is that Flur girl tried this
sort of charm. I think she was trying to put
it in truer tromps, but well that kind of worked too.
It went all sleepy but then snored, and then her
skirt caught fire and she had to put it out
with water.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I'm like, okay, once again, why is she wearing a skirt?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was wondering that too, I really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, maybe like he meant like the hem of her robe,
but yeah, I felt that was weird too.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Skirts not seem like the right outfit for this.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Seemed very like practical. I mean, they're if they're all
wearing robes, it's across the board not practical. But the
fact that it's described as a skirt is very odd.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like I don't agreed, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I guess you gotta look pretty as you're out there
fighting those dragons. Right, So it sounds like Flir did
fine in the first task. Not fantastic, but she did alright.
She was able to hold her own. So the next
time we're going to see a mention of Flur is
really it's kind of it happens kind of off screen.
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It's just Ron and Ginny talking about what just happened,
which is that Ron asked Flur to the mule ball. Sadly,
we don't get to witness this firsthand, but we do
get to hear enough about it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I'm pretty glad that we didn't have this first hand.
And something incredibly awkward.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, so Ron's like in shock in this moment, and
Ginny he just asked Flour to go to the ball
with him and Ron. I don't know what made me
do it. What was I playing at? There were people
all around, and she looked at him like like he
was a c slug or something.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Such a random comparison.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, So then Harry says, she's part Viela. You were right,
her grandmother was one. It wasn't your fault. I bet
you just walked past when she was turning on the
old charm for diggery and got a blast of it,
a blast of it. She was wasting her time. He's
going with Cho Chang.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I asked him to go with me now, he said, dully,
and she told me.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
So I don't think that Flour was putting on the
old charm for diggery. No, I just think, yeah, I
think the two of them.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Were talking, and Harry just assumed they were flirting because
they're both pretty.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, and again I don't I don't necessarily think it
takes a blast of the charm for Ron to, you know,
think she's pretty?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
No? Is that what he is?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
How you read that line? The blost of it?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, yeah, that is that Harry caught a blast or
sorry that Ron caught a blast of this charm that
she was putting on.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, okay, I guess I guess that's you're right. I
never really thought about that, but I think that is
probably what I thought it was.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I thought it was yes, I get it. I was saying.
I thought it was some weird British phrase of like
putting on the old charm. But I think you're right.
It was a villa charm.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, like putting on her villa charms. Right, Yeah, So anyway, yes, okay,
Harry's Harry's interpretation. I don't know. Maybe that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But I don't think I think Harry again is just
seeing two pretty people and it's like he assumes they're
flirting because of the fact that they're both pretty.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Right, So in the lead up to the work, there's
that's pretty privilege for you. So in the Yewle Ball
or sorry, in the lead up to the Yule Ball,
we see flour one time. It's like winter's fallen and
they're having some delicious winter food and apparently only Fleur
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de la Cour seemed to be able to find anything
to plain about.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
It is too heavy on this Hogwarts food.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I will not fit into my dress.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Robes and oh there's a tragedy. She really thinks a
lot of herself that one, doesn't she.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, so they're not very polite about Flour there. Oh,
but I guess she's also Flur's not also being super
polite about the food that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
She's been Well, the house helps down in the kitchen,
we're out doing themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah. So at the actual Yule Ball, you're gonna we're
gonna see Flour quite a few times with her date,
Roger Davies, and she's just, you know, looking stunning. She's
in her robes of silver gray. Once again, that's silver.
That's that's her color.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I guess so for a dress it makes sense that
just the hair is odd to me, but whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, apparently Roger Davies just looks so like pleased with
himself for having snagged her as a date that he
can like hardly even believe it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, Rodger Davies is a fun kind of running joke
in these like the fourth and fifth books, like the
Roger Davies being Flour's date here and then the like
weird interactions with Flur or with Choe in this fifth
book and at Madam Putty foots and stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, he's kind of a player, he gets around.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, but he's also kind of just like awkward too, which.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, yeah, he seems to kind of be in the
right place at the right time for himself a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, we all know Flour really wanted to go with Diggery, right.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
According to Harry, she.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Was wasting her time. He's going with Joe Chang.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So we see him as her date a few different
times throughout this night. As they're sitting there at the dinner,
Flour is being very dismissive of all of the great
hall decorations.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
This is not this is nothing. It's the Palace of
bo Batten's. We have we have ice sculptures all around
the dining chamber at Christmas. They do not melt, of course,
they are like huge statues of diamond.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And then and then yeah, Roder Davies was watching her
talk with a very dazed look on his face.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Get missing his mouth with his fork.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Because after she goes she's talking about the Poulter guys.
She said, if ifa Polter guys ever entered into Bo
bo Batten, he would be expelled like Za and then uh,
Roger absolutely right, slapping his own hand on the table
like that, he has no idea what she's saying.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So also, why is Harry listening to this whole conversation creeper?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, Harry, maybe focus on your own date.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
She's dancing with the bo Batons boys.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
She's out, she's out jamming to the Weird Sisters.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Not at the actually, but he's being a little bit nosy.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
And I know we've talked about this before, but I
do want to give a little disclaimer that A I
don't think I can do a French accent, and B
I don't think that the author writes a very good
French accent.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So yeah, I'm glad you're saying that, because I know
we've talked about it before, but it probably bears repeating.
We're we're not making fun of French people here when
we're talking doing this accent.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Were I'm literally waiting as how Yeah, and also, I
don't think that bo Batten's is supposed to be pronounced
that way.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's not it's not a matter of what we think,
it's a fact that it's not supposed to be pronounced
that way.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'm not quite sure why the movie decided to make it.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But yeah, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So anyhow, we've seen Flour at the Yule Ball a
few different times. I think, like this is just showing again.
I know you've you like, we're fans of Flour generally,
but I do think that like we're seeing kind of
a negative side of her where she's she is kind
of stuck up. I mean that's she's very like her
expectations of things are extremely high, and she thinks she
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does seem to, you know, really be thinking that bo
Batten's is so much better than Hogwarts, right, And I.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Mean when you say we're friends of Floor, I think
we're sorry. When you say we're fans of Flour, I
think that what we are is we're fans of her
growth in the series. And this is just obviously she's
at her most immature state in this book.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Right, right. So we see her just a few more
times here, mainly with Roger Davies as Harry is out
on the grounds eavesdropping on Hagrid and Madame Maxim.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
They're having a good night.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, they keep on hanging out in the clumps of
rose bushes and sinking half concealed into the rose bushes.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, they get knocked out of a rose bush as well,
Because after Madame Maxine, Oh.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Dare you her voice exploded through the peaceful night air
like a foghorn behind him, Harry Flour and Rocher fall
out of their rose bush.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
A rose bush does not seem like the right place
to be fooling around in the secret. I'm sorry, especially
at night.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Like how can you get stabbed?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah exactly, Yeah, I mean I'm not. I I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I can't speak from experience here, but I can speak
from experience about falling into a rose bush, and I'll
tell you it's not fun.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I think maybe like, choose another plant, if yeah,
like a lilac bush. Choose another plant, another plant, even
the womping willow wouldn't be just kidding, no, no, But
I think like there's plenty of plants that aren't covered in.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Poky thorns, right exactly. I mean, I know roses are
romantic or whatever, but is it worth it? I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I also like any honestly, any like bush of like
some kind of plant is not going to be that
comfortable because like the sticks on it and stuff, we're
gonna be Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Plus Rita Skeeter's in there. Yeah, they don't know that
that's true.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
What she is true. Okay, Well, we're going to resume
our conversation about Flur and talk about her in the
second and third tasks, and in just a second and
first we're going to take a quick break for a
word from our sponsors. Okay. So, after Fluur's adventures at
the Yule Ball, the next time we really see her
is at the second task. And this is I think
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this is a turning point for her because we have
Harry's relationship will be shifting with her shortly his going
into the task, he has this like kind of vision
of people being disappointed in him and not knowing what
to do, and he hasn't. He has this like idea
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of what Flur would say. I knew it.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
He is too young. He is only a little boy.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
To be fair to Flur. That's just Harry's imagination. We
don't know if she really would say that or not.
Right right, I thought that was funny.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
He is only a little boy.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
But during the actual task, I guess when Harry arrives,
he kind of comes to the task like very chaotically,
arrives like a little bit late. And he runs in
and he skids to a halt in the mud and
splatters Flour's robes with mud. Big mistake, huge, Yeah, she's
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the of course, it's the last person you'd want to
splatter mud on. Well, I'd probably rather splatter mud on
her than Crumb. Yeah, I don't know, though, she's so prissy.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, we don't actually see her reaction surprisingly.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, I know, I am surprised by that too.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Just where have you been? The toss about to start
from the.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Cranky old Percy is there to kill the food. Yeah.
So anyway, we we have Harry participating in the task.
We don't really see Flur in the task, so we
don't get to directly see what happens with Segrindilos.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
She couldn't get away from Scrittos.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
But we see Harry with the with the different hostages,
and he's, you know, he sees Gabrielle and he knows
this must be Flour's sister, and he's very worried about her,
and he spends quite a bit of time like wondering
where Flur is and whether he should take Gabrielle or not.
But he finally does take take Gabrielle with him and
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take her exactly saves her life because she definitely would
have died otherwise.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Well, yes, it's obviously not a Harry character study here,
but I still think it's very nice moment for Harry.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, and I do think like I don't know if
they told Flur when she got up to shore, Like
it doesn't feel like they told her Gabrielle to be fine.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I don't think they told her that she is so
freaked out, and that's really like damaging fruit.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I mean, like I get why Harry believes that they're
all in danger. I guess like they've been told all
year like try was a tournament so dangerous, like people.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Have like people die in this yeah, exactly, Yeah, and
so anyway, she it says, when Harry arrives at the shore,
Madame Maxim is trying to restrain Flour, who was quite hysterical,
fighting tooth and nail to return to the water. I
feel like they needed to say to her, Like I
don't think anybody said to her, Gabrielle will be fine
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one or the other.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Of course, nobody said like why would she be reacting
that way? If if that's what they told her. Like,
I think it's very clear they did not tell her,
and I think that that was really irresponsible to tell her.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Once she's been disqualified to say, like.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Your score is going to be highly affected by this,
but just so you know your your sister's safe, like yeah,
your sister will be okay.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, because flur Go she breaks free of Madame Maxim
and starts hugging her sister. It was Secrindilos they attacked me.
I thought, Yeah, I thought, so she's super worried.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
It's very sad, honestly, I mean, like the only possibility
is I could maybe see that she was so panicked
that she couldn't hear them when they told her, like
they maybe her.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Or that they told her and she just didn't didn't
believe that.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like worried, like okay, well until I
see her, I'm not gonna yeah, it's actually safe. Like yeah,
like I said that maybe they tried to tell her
and she was just so focused on like waiting for
her to return that it was like yeah, I mean again,
I'm being pretty generous with this interpretation. I really don't
think she knows.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah I told her, Yeah, so. I mean, then we
get this moment where Flur comes up to She's still
really like worked up. It says that she has many
cuts on her face and arms, and her robes were torn,
but she didn't seem to care, nor would she allow
Madame Palmfrey to clean them. She just she wants to
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go thank Harry, and she says, you saved her even
though she was not your hostage.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And you you elped.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Ron. Yeah, yeah a bit.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Flor swooped down on him too, and kissed him like
how she swooped Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And how Flour has to bend down to kiss Harry
twice on each cheek. She must be really tall.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I mean Harry was very struck by how tall
they all were.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So yeah, so, and Harry's heartily wishing he'd left all
three girls tied to the statue. After Flour kisses Ron,
Hermione looked simply furious.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But I also like how Harry when Flour kissed Harry twice,
he felt his face burn and wouldn't have been surprised
if steam was coming.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Out of his ears? Again? What does it mean again?
When was the last time steam was coming? I mean,
I guess when.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
When I was gonna say when he had those pepper
up potion sweets.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
But that's not what he's referring to, right, There's gonna
be something no idea.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Was there see coming out of his eyes when he
took the out of his ears when he took the gillyweed.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I don't think So.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
That's not how that works, not that one, not that all.
He needs a train all of a sudden, I got
some good fun.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah. So anyhow, Flour gets awarded twenty five points because
she she demonstrated excellent use of the bubble head charm,
was attacked by Grindilow's as she approached her goal and
failed to retrieve her hostage, and her eye deserved zero. Yeah. Yeah,
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this is a definitely like we're on the start of
the redemption arc for Flour. Here you can definitely see
how much she loves her little sister, which is very sweet,
and she's very like she's humble. Here she knows like
she didn't perform well, even though it doesn't really sound
like it's super her fault, because no, I mean the
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Grendilow's attacked her. I guess you should have hopefully been
able to ward them off.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yes, she couldn't get away from them. She almost died.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's funny because she's pretty.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's funny because it's probably because she's been eating all
this heavy Hogwarts food and she couldn't get away.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
She really thinks a lot of herself, doesn't she.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, okay, Well, anyway, it seems like this makes a
huge impact on Flour's like way that she interacts with
Harry from now on, because the next time Harry sees her,
she beams at him and she's just like, she's really
nice to Harry. Now she's never gonna forget what Harry
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did for her.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah. I like that too.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I mean I think like it's a little bit ridiculous
how over the top she is with it, but yeah,
I like, I think it just as a result of,
you know, how much she loves her sister and showing
just like, you know, she's capable of change, right, she.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Still has a little bit of that snobby streak to her,
because when Bagman is showing them the maze for the
third task, she's.
Speaker 9 (41:36):
Like, we seimply have to get through as a maze,
simple as that. It's like, yep, and we're going to
see how well you're going to do shortly here, right, exactly. Yeah,
we see her just a few more times because when
we do get to the maze, she does not do
very well.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I'm not really her fault either, because that's thanks to
uh jr. Attacking her from the outside of the maze, right.
But we do get to see her with her family
in the lead up to the maze. Apparently Harry thinks
she's jabbering away to her mother, which I'm like, that's
not a very nice description. No, it's sort of like
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I feel like he's doing a little bit of xenophobia there,
like she's speaking another language or she's jabbering yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Or sexism, like oh, the two women are just sitting
there yapping.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
But okay, and Gabrielle is there again, and she's holding
her mother's hand and she waves at Harry. Harry waved back, grinning.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Okay, Harry, what else was he gonna do?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah. Flur then sees Bill because Bill and Missus Weasley
have showed up to watch the task, and Fleur de
la cour Harry noticed, was eyeing Bill with great interest
over her mother's shoulder. Yeah, Harry could tell.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
She had no objection whatsoever to long hair earrings with
fangs on them.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, well, let's be fair.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Does that's cool?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, well, I was gonna say, to be fair, anybody
in the same room as Bill is gonna be eyeing
him with great interest because he is cool. Yeah, no kidding,
but yeah, I guess that the seeds were planted here.
But it's actually pretty much right away, like in the
fifth book, is when they're dating, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I think so, it's kind of yeah, it is kind
of isn't it really more the sixth book that she
that we see her a lot, but they talk about
it a bit in the fifth.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Book, yeah, they because yeah, that's when Fred's like smirking
about how Bill took a job like back in England
so that he could work with Florid Della Corps so
she can't prove her English.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yeah yeah, I mean, so, yes, we do get we
this is our first sign of it. But yeah, they
definitely hit it off right away, which is cute. I mean,
that's typical of this. It's a little bit. Yeah, everybody
moves very quickly and it's a little bit and they
look at they fall in love, right.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It is a little bit odd given the fact that
she's still in school.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
But I guess that is just how the world works there.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, well she isn't she about to graduate?
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, and still she is a student though, That's why
it's a little bit weird.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that Bill and Floor
get together until she's done with school.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
But yeah, no, I don't either, but you know, he's
showing interest in her.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I agree, I agree. I'm just saying I think that's
the one way we kind of get around that.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Well, I agree to.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
I'm not saying anything negative about Bill because he's the
coolest person ever, but I'm just saying it's a little
bit weird.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, the age difference is definitely there, considering Bill has
been out of school for like three or four years
at least I think five or six, because Charlie has
been out of school sif the truth, Yeah, yeah, Bill is.
The age differences in this world don't really plain.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I think he's supposed to be about five years older
than Floor maybe sick, so he's supposed to be like
twenty three in this scene.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
But it's it's different.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Well, yeah, that's for sure, And obviously, yeah, I'm not I.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Think that the world is different than it is for us.
But yeah, I mean, ah, but in the Wizarding World,
we come of age at seventeen.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I'm with Petunia on that one.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah. Okay, So, like I said, Flir does not really
last very long in the Maze. Harry hears her scream
and he's he's sure it's her, but yeah, he's a
little worried about her. But at the same time, he
couldn't help thinking one champion.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Okay, so we don't actually see what happened to her there,
but later when Junior is doing his whole confession, he
says that he stunned Flir in the Maze, and so
then at that point she was taken out Master body No, yeah,
(46:06):
Master Bardi was very naughty.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yes, he's been a bad boy.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah. So then we see Flur like twice more in
this book, one time at the end of your Feast,
and she's there kind of we see her kind of
as a in a symbolic moment when Dumbledore is giving
his final speech about Cedric and about how we have
friends in the in the Wizarding World across the world,
(46:34):
and we look and we see Flur and the fellow
bit Bo Batton's students and Crumb and the derm strings.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
And so.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
No Karkaroff has fled. But we see her and it's
kind of like a you know, like I said, a
bit of a symbolic moment, and I do think like
it ends up being pretty like, I don't know, just
impactful that she was here for that year and that
she knew Cedric. I think that that does impact how
(47:04):
she ends up kind of being part of the order.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
I think that this moment where he says the thing
about you know, ties are being more important than ever
ties to people across the world and stuff at the
Wizarding World, Like, it is a really important moment and
sets up a lot of the future books.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, and then we see her one last time when
she comes to say goodbye to Harry. We will see
each other again, I hope. I am hoping to get
a job here to improve my English.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I like how the author just takes that exact same
phrase for next book where they talk about her.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, it's very good already, said Ron.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
It is very good. I mean it is fluent English.
She just has an al Hermione scowls. How dare he
say something complimentary. It is a little how he said
it in a sort of strangled, a strangled sort of voice.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Fleur smiled at him.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Hermione scowled, goodbye, Harry, it has been a pleasure meeting you.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Harry's spirits couldn't help but lift slightly as he watched
Flur hurry back across the lawns, sylver hair, silvery hair
rippling in the sunlight.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Oh, your spirit does lift when you see that.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yes, it sure does. She must have turned on the
old charm for him.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah. So, anyhow, that is the end of Flour's arc
in this fourth book. We still have a long way
to go with Flour as far as like developing her character.
I will say like she got a bit more deep
as this as this book went on, but she still
was a fairly flat character.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I think it's partially because we get Hermione, like it
takes a long time for Hermione to warm to her,
And yeah, I think that we usually trust hermione judgment
and on this one we don't. But yeah, I feel
like that's part of why her growth arc doesn't happen
until later from the reader's perspective, because it's like Hermione
(49:08):
is so judgy of her that we kind of assume
that we're supposed to agree with her.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
She's not even being that bad, Like, yeah, agreed. I
think like sometimes I definitely used to fall into trusting
Hermione's judgment on people when it's not always the case
that we.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Should exactly well, lupid and tonks big or sorry tonks
and serious big case numbers one and two.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, and also, uh tongks is that what you said?
Tongs and serious?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (49:40):
I thought you said florid serious for a second. I
was like, yeah and tongs. But yeah, don't you think
she was a bit in love with him?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Well that's Harry who says that, let's be clear, it's
their fault that he died.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, according, But yeah, no, Hermione has flaws as well,
and so I think, like sometimes she's overly judgmental of people,
and this is one of those situations, and I think.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Flour Actually there is a character that Harry comes around
on more quickly, and he's he's actually the better judge
of her character in this instance than Hermione is Greed agreed, Yeah,
And he knows her, he knows her way better than
ro Well we assume that he's just like booty blinded
or something, which is what Hermione also assumes. But the
(50:29):
more we read this, like the more it's like, I
really don't think that's the case. Like I don't think
Harry is always intimidated by Floor, but I really don't
think he's ever actually into Floor.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, agreed. Okay, Well, let's go ahead and do our
rating of flour for this book, and then we'll resume
our conversation about her soon. What would you give her
her heart in this book? I would I kind of
feel like she should get like at least a three,
like due to her Gabrielle thing and I mean Harry
at the end.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I think probably a three or four because her passion
for competing and stuff too.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, okay, let's give her a four.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Humor. I think a lot of times she has some
unintentional humor.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
She's not necessarily like cracking jokes, but she's funny at times.
I mean, probably like a two.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, A lot of the humor comes from like Harry
being awkward.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
I'm trying exactly.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Uniqueness and creativity.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Pretty low, honestly.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
I mean, she kind of does fill a unique role
I think her depth is pretty low at this point,
but there's not really very many characters like her. But
at the same time, she's not also super like super creative.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, so uniqueness is good, but creativity not so great.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, so I guess maybe three.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, okay, and then depth I would put it at
like a two. Yeah, I think so too, because we
all we really know about her is that she's fairly
good at magic and she cares a lot about her sister.
That's really all we know.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
At this point. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
And she's kind of a snob and that she thinks
a lot of herself, doesn't she that one?
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Okay, Well, that's eleven points for Flur, so we'll see.
I think she's going to get more points as we go.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I think.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
But yeah, we will be continuing the flour conversation, the
fluor versation, confrosation, the confirsation will be continuing. Or do
you think we're gonna keep going with this like right away?
Or are you thinking we're gonna do someone page At
the Times before scheduled to do a.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Take five next week, but we've been scheduled to do
a lot of take fives in the past that haven't happened,
so we'll see.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Stay tuned, is all I can say.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, I think we'll be doing at least one more
part of Flur. I'm not sure if there might be
two more parts on her, just knowing how we are
and we don't. We don't want to rush the proper eulogy, but.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Right we have to properly which eyes.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
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