March 17, 2024 • 9 mins
In the 4th Episode of Season 9 on The Robby Row Show I sit down, literally sit down on a couch at Advanced Therapy and Performance, with Luke Dawson (@throw_ched). If you want to watch this episode on YouTube you can Click Here.
Luke serves as the Integrated Throwing Coordinator for Advanced Therapy and Performance in Stamford, CT working with 100's of athletes ranging from all age groups while still keeping his own personal baseball dreams alive with an impressive fastball that can reach the high 90's.
Luke is an impressive dude if i do say so myself. But don't tell him i said that lol. Gotta keep the kids humble.. Anyways we had about 10 minutes before Dr. Heenan was ready to shoot a Facility Tour video (Be on The Lookout for that) so we got in a few good conversations that i think you guys will find valuable!
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Luke serves as the Integrated Throwing Coordinator for Advanced Therapy and Performance in Stamford, CT working with 100's of athletes ranging from all age groups while still keeping his own personal baseball dreams alive with an impressive fastball that can reach the high 90's.
Luke is an impressive dude if i do say so myself. But don't tell him i said that lol. Gotta keep the kids humble.. Anyways we had about 10 minutes before Dr. Heenan was ready to shoot a Facility Tour video (Be on The Lookout for that) so we got in a few good conversations that i think you guys will find valuable!
Topics In Today's Episode
- Working With Youth Athletes
- Dealing with Parents
- The Main Goal of Each Athlete
- Identifying Your "WHY"
- ATP's Environment
- Watching Big Leaguers Work
- Having an Escape
- The Process
If you want to watch a funny clip of Luke Dawson breaking my thumb Here ya go..
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Podcast Website Page Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts LinkedIn
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Click HERE to Personally Contact Me Via My Question Platform
Click HERE For DISCOUNTS on Products I Use
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Episode Transcript
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(00:00):
Yeah. Yeah, just being ableto go outside of like the field and
just forget about baseball for a littlebit. Yeah, if you have a
bad day at the field and youjust obsess over it, you know,
story in my life, every dayof my life. You're doing a leader
listening to Robbie Roach Robbie, Yo, what up, guys, Hey,
(00:27):
real quick, I'm going to doa little pod with Luke Dawson aka at
Throat Shed. He is the throwingcoach at Advanced Therapy and Performance. We
talked for about ten minutes. Ireally wanted to talk more so just based
on like his experience being somebody thatcontinuously works with youth athletes and high school,
(00:47):
college professional athletes and how you seea different dynamic when working with all
ages. Yeah. Really good conversation. I'm sure we'll double back on it
at some point, but here isthe podcasts I recorded with Luke Dawson at
Advanced Therapy and Performance. Enjoy seriousquestion you having worked with shy hundreds of
(01:10):
athletes through here, I'd say yeah, probably yeah, so probably two yeah,
And would you say the majority likeyouth like twelve to eighteen athletes,
Yeah, and a good amount ofcollege guys as well. Yeah, what
do you think is like the mostimportant piece to get across to youth athlete
when you're like giving one on onepitching instruction. Oh, I wouldn't say.
(01:33):
This is something I talk about alwaysin my sessions because you don't talk.
You have I'm talking right now.But you have to be able to
learn and develop a love for thegame. Yeah, that's how you keep
playing and you're going to love it. And when you keep when you can
do that, you keep going andthat's how you get better. Yeah,
but if you hate it, you'renot going to want to be around it.
So how do you being an instructor, like kind of how do you
(01:55):
inspire them to like fall in lovewith it? What is it? Is
it something like proactively you're doing.I think for the younger guys, it's
like really making it fun. Likethe kids who are like eleven twelve,
they got to make it fun andgamify it a little bit. I think
a lot of the high school guysthey have a pretty good idea of why
I love it, but also figuringout like why they are doing it?
(02:15):
Figure out or why and then yeah, I mean you can't push them.
I think it has to be somethingthat it comes from them. Like you
can push them a little bit,but you can't make them want it.
Well, you probably have a goodidea too, like what kids come in,
not depending on the age, butlike what kids come in that do
love it and you can probably likepush them a little bit more completely the
(02:36):
little parents are like putting them hereand who like the kids are like,
oh, I want to do that? Yeah? I mean is that is
that a high number that you seeof like kids that come in just to
come in because everyone else is doingit? Or like, no, I
think we're pretty lucky. We havea good population of you actually want to
get better and are here because theywant to They want to like go on
(02:59):
to play at a higher level.Sure, and I think a lot of
them know why they're doing it.Yeah, what do you guys like need
to figure it out a little bitmore. But they're still really really young,
right, What do you are youdealing with like parents, like communicating
with parents throughout this whole process?Is that something like you've got to encourage
them with in terms of getting theirkids to love the sport. Is that
(03:19):
anything they're doing with them? Imean, honestly, don't have like too
much communication interaction, right, yeah, I mean like check in everyone now
and then some parents are little yeahands on, but overall like yeah,
I think they they have a goodtrust of what we're doing. Yeah,
so it's good. I mean,you know, there there's nothing like worse
than the parent who which like Idon't really deal with, but like parents
(03:40):
who come in and like try andtell sure, you know, the coach
like what their kid needs. Yeah, or the parent that's more passionate about
the sports than the kid is.You know, that probably makes it more
of a burden for the kid.Yeah, you know, that's something I
want to do more stuff on.But like I get asked all the time,
like from parents, like how doyou make the kid like love it?
(04:00):
Because like obviously a lot of thecontent I'm producing is like showcasing my
authentic love for the game, butlike that's just from you know, playing
it and me personally falling in lovewith it for my own specific reasons.
But it's always interesting, like whensomeone asks you that question, like how
do you get someone to fall inlove with it? How do you get
someone to fall in love with likethe grind, the process, you know,
(04:21):
And I don't think I did thatuntil college. I always loved playing
baseball, but like the practice sideof things, and like the working out
was like in high school it waslike so so, And I remember growing
up like my brother like always wantedto play catch. Yeah, and like
sometimes I'll just be like I don'twant to do this. Older brother,
younger brother, older brother older.But then when I got to college,
(04:43):
it was kind of like I don'tknow if something like clicked and clicked for
like the enjoyment of it. Yeah, like the enjoyment of like all aspects
of it. Yeah, the work, which like doesn't have to be a
thing, but for me, likethat was a big piece of it.
Like I enjoyed like practice, andsome people sit around and like complain a
practice. They're out there and arein summer ball college summer ball guys love
to like complain about being there.Yeah I would. I don't know.
(05:05):
I enjoyed like always something you can'texplain though, right, Yeah, Like
you don't know why you who arelike super high level that I know like
don't enjoy like working out. Iwas going to ask you that next.
I mean there's some guys, Imean, you know, there's some guys
play in the Major League. Well, I was going to ask you,
like my personal experience has kind ofshown me like baseball and like performing well,
(05:25):
it can't be like your top priority. You know, you got to
kind of have this like, yeah, I love it. I'm gonna do
everything, you know, dedicate dedicatemy life to it. But like there's
always gotta be something else in someone'slife, foundationally, right that you don't
put all your you know, effortand the performance of things and lose your
identity every Thursday. Yeah, justyeah, just being able to go outside
(05:46):
of like the field and just forgetabout baseball for a little bit. Yeah,
if you're if you have a badday at the field and you just
obsess over it, you know,the story of my life, every day
of my life. What a lastquestion. The guys on the wall,
the Jersey's put a little b rollin their kid. What do you see
as like the main difference between theguys on the wall versus like the guys
(06:08):
you know, high school college.Yeah, just like the focus and idea
of what they need to do toget better. They come in with a
very very good plan, especially likeyou know, I guess all the guys
on the wall are major league guys, but I was thinking of just our
pros in general. Yeah, theyall have a really really good idea of
what they need to do going intothe off season, what they need to
(06:28):
improve upon. Yeah. Does thatstem from like them just maturing or is
that stem from like advanced therapy performancebeing a really good kind of foundational kind
of training piece to someone's career.You know, like some people like I
know, my first probably two orthree off seasons, Dude, I didn't
really know what to do. Theygave you a pamphlet, you know,
but it's kind of like really cookiecutter to an extent, right, You're
(06:49):
not really quite sure it still islike that, but it's I think it
comes from a lot of different areas. Some stuff from like their org,
some stuff from like there's so muchinformation out there, guys you research on
their own. Yeah, some ofit comes from us. Some of it
comes from you know, your teammatesor people you're working out within here.
Yeah. I think like the bestthing is how like our pro guys interact
(07:11):
and like share ideas with each other. Ye. I mean, I'm sure
you can attest this, but Ilearned the most just like being around guys.
Sure, not always from coaches,And I tell that to my younger
guys too. Are you saying,like learn the most in the bullpen of
like just random facts of the worldor baseball, Like how many satellites we
have in space? How many?I don't know, but I've heard about
satellites in the bullpen. Ye,more aliens, life skills, life skills.
(07:35):
Hey, the thing that they wearon their belt everyone's wearing what is
that for? Where we like tosee the belt the hitter? Yeah,
so the hitter just wore one.I think that signs. It's usually like
a grid. College just signs likeon the Yeah. Well so though it'll
be like a coordinate grid. Sothe coach will like say a number and
(07:56):
they look down at it and itsays if it the first is like eight
and then the next summer is likefour. Smoke like eight and four signing
morse code it like bunt or somethinglike that. What if someone like loses
their card and the other team getsit and they just want a lot of
times you can switch cards like intweoh, so it's like a bullpen like
guy getting these. But now Ithink for the for pitch Colin they have
(08:16):
like an electronic one that goes tothe I want this. You have been
out of the college game for alittle while, so yeah, me too.
I don't know what that looks like. Me too. All right,
Luke, our time is done,dude, but thanks for hopping on the
couch chronicles at ATP. You're welcomefor that name. We're gonna need banners.
You guys can check him out atthrow shed. There's gonna be no
(08:37):
underscore. There, not even ahyphen. Throw dot shed never mind,
there's gonna be a dot or aperiod, however you say it. Oh,
a little open side mechanics and thegray or white ones? The gray
they go great a white? Doyou spell gray with an A or an
e with an A? Shout outJosiah, Josiah, joe Zaia. All
right, let's do this onto thenext That was actually good. We should
(09:01):
do that again sometime soon. Whatare you doing tonight,
Yeah. Yeah, just being ableto go outside of like the field and
just forget about baseball for a littlebit. Yeah, if you have a
bad day at the field and youjust obsess over it, you know,
story in my life, every dayof my life. You're doing a leader
listening to Robbie Roach Robbie, Yo, what up, guys, Hey,
(00:27):
real quick, I'm going to doa little pod with Luke Dawson aka at
Throat Shed. He is the throwingcoach at Advanced Therapy and Performance. We
talked for about ten minutes. Ireally wanted to talk more so just based
on like his experience being somebody thatcontinuously works with youth athletes and high school,
(00:47):
college professional athletes and how you seea different dynamic when working with all
ages. Yeah. Really good conversation. I'm sure we'll double back on it
at some point, but here isthe podcasts I recorded with Luke Dawson at
Advanced Therapy and Performance. Enjoy seriousquestion you having worked with shy hundreds of
(01:10):
athletes through here, I'd say yeah, probably yeah, so probably two yeah,
And would you say the majority likeyouth like twelve to eighteen athletes,
Yeah, and a good amount ofcollege guys as well. Yeah, what
do you think is like the mostimportant piece to get across to youth athlete
when you're like giving one on onepitching instruction. Oh, I wouldn't say.
(01:33):
This is something I talk about alwaysin my sessions because you don't talk.
You have I'm talking right now.But you have to be able to
learn and develop a love for thegame. Yeah, that's how you keep
playing and you're going to love it. And when you keep when you can
do that, you keep going andthat's how you get better. Yeah,
but if you hate it, you'renot going to want to be around it.
So how do you being an instructor, like kind of how do you
(01:55):
inspire them to like fall in lovewith it? What is it? Is
it something like proactively you're doing.I think for the younger guys, it's
like really making it fun. Likethe kids who are like eleven twelve,
they got to make it fun andgamify it a little bit. I think
a lot of the high school guysthey have a pretty good idea of why
I love it, but also figuringout like why they are doing it?
(02:15):
Figure out or why and then yeah, I mean you can't push them.
I think it has to be somethingthat it comes from them. Like you
can push them a little bit,but you can't make them want it.
Well, you probably have a goodidea too, like what kids come in,
not depending on the age, butlike what kids come in that do
love it and you can probably likepush them a little bit more completely the
(02:36):
little parents are like putting them hereand who like the kids are like,
oh, I want to do that? Yeah? I mean is that is
that a high number that you seeof like kids that come in just to
come in because everyone else is doingit? Or like, no, I
think we're pretty lucky. We havea good population of you actually want to
get better and are here because theywant to They want to like go on
(02:59):
to play at a higher level.Sure, and I think a lot of
them know why they're doing it.Yeah, what do you guys like need
to figure it out a little bitmore. But they're still really really young,
right, What do you are youdealing with like parents, like communicating
with parents throughout this whole process?Is that something like you've got to encourage
them with in terms of getting theirkids to love the sport. Is that
(03:19):
anything they're doing with them? Imean, honestly, don't have like too
much communication interaction, right, yeah, I mean like check in everyone now
and then some parents are little yeahands on, but overall like yeah,
I think they they have a goodtrust of what we're doing. Yeah,
so it's good. I mean,you know, there there's nothing like worse
than the parent who which like Idon't really deal with, but like parents
(03:40):
who come in and like try andtell sure, you know, the coach
like what their kid needs. Yeah, or the parent that's more passionate about
the sports than the kid is.You know, that probably makes it more
of a burden for the kid.Yeah, you know, that's something I
want to do more stuff on.But like I get asked all the time,
like from parents, like how doyou make the kid like love it?
(04:00):
Because like obviously a lot of thecontent I'm producing is like showcasing my
authentic love for the game, butlike that's just from you know, playing
it and me personally falling in lovewith it for my own specific reasons.
But it's always interesting, like whensomeone asks you that question, like how
do you get someone to fall inlove with it? How do you get
someone to fall in love with likethe grind, the process, you know,
(04:21):
And I don't think I did thatuntil college. I always loved playing
baseball, but like the practice sideof things, and like the working out
was like in high school it waslike so so, And I remember growing
up like my brother like always wantedto play catch. Yeah, and like
sometimes I'll just be like I don'twant to do this. Older brother,
younger brother, older brother older.But then when I got to college,
(04:43):
it was kind of like I don'tknow if something like clicked and clicked for
like the enjoyment of it. Yeah, like the enjoyment of like all aspects
of it. Yeah, the work, which like doesn't have to be a
thing, but for me, likethat was a big piece of it.
Like I enjoyed like practice, andsome people sit around and like complain a
practice. They're out there and arein summer ball college summer ball guys love
to like complain about being there.Yeah I would. I don't know.
(05:05):
I enjoyed like always something you can'texplain though, right, Yeah, Like
you don't know why you who arelike super high level that I know like
don't enjoy like working out. Iwas going to ask you that next.
I mean there's some guys, Imean, you know, there's some guys
play in the Major League. Well, I was going to ask you,
like my personal experience has kind ofshown me like baseball and like performing well,
(05:25):
it can't be like your top priority. You know, you got to
kind of have this like, yeah, I love it. I'm gonna do
everything, you know, dedicate dedicatemy life to it. But like there's
always gotta be something else in someone'slife, foundationally, right that you don't
put all your you know, effortand the performance of things and lose your
identity every Thursday. Yeah, justyeah, just being able to go outside
(05:46):
of like the field and just forgetabout baseball for a little bit. Yeah,
if you're if you have a badday at the field and you just
obsess over it, you know,the story of my life, every day
of my life. What a lastquestion. The guys on the wall,
the Jersey's put a little b rollin their kid. What do you see
as like the main difference between theguys on the wall versus like the guys
(06:08):
you know, high school college.Yeah, just like the focus and idea
of what they need to do toget better. They come in with a
very very good plan, especially likeyou know, I guess all the guys
on the wall are major league guys, but I was thinking of just our
pros in general. Yeah, theyall have a really really good idea of
what they need to do going intothe off season, what they need to
(06:28):
improve upon. Yeah. Does thatstem from like them just maturing or is
that stem from like advanced therapy performancebeing a really good kind of foundational kind
of training piece to someone's career.You know, like some people like I
know, my first probably two orthree off seasons, Dude, I didn't
really know what to do. Theygave you a pamphlet, you know,
but it's kind of like really cookiecutter to an extent, right, You're
(06:49):
not really quite sure it still islike that, but it's I think it
comes from a lot of different areas. Some stuff from like their org,
some stuff from like there's so muchinformation out there, guys you research on
their own. Yeah, some ofit comes from us. Some of it
comes from you know, your teammatesor people you're working out within here.
Yeah. I think like the bestthing is how like our pro guys interact
(07:11):
and like share ideas with each other. Ye. I mean, I'm sure
you can attest this, but Ilearned the most just like being around guys.
Sure, not always from coaches,And I tell that to my younger
guys too. Are you saying,like learn the most in the bullpen of
like just random facts of the worldor baseball, Like how many satellites we
have in space? How many?I don't know, but I've heard about
satellites in the bullpen. Ye,more aliens, life skills, life skills.
(07:35):
Hey, the thing that they wearon their belt everyone's wearing what is
that for? Where we like tosee the belt the hitter? Yeah,
so the hitter just wore one.I think that signs. It's usually like
a grid. College just signs likeon the Yeah. Well so though it'll
be like a coordinate grid. Sothe coach will like say a number and
(07:56):
they look down at it and itsays if it the first is like eight
and then the next summer is likefour. Smoke like eight and four signing
morse code it like bunt or somethinglike that. What if someone like loses
their card and the other team getsit and they just want a lot of
times you can switch cards like intweoh, so it's like a bullpen like
guy getting these. But now Ithink for the for pitch Colin they have
(08:16):
like an electronic one that goes tothe I want this. You have been
out of the college game for alittle while, so yeah, me too.
I don't know what that looks like. Me too. All right,
Luke, our time is done,dude, but thanks for hopping on the
couch chronicles at ATP. You're welcomefor that name. We're gonna need banners.
You guys can check him out atthrow shed. There's gonna be no
(08:37):
underscore. There, not even ahyphen. Throw dot shed never mind,
there's gonna be a dot or aperiod, however you say it. Oh,
a little open side mechanics and thegray or white ones? The gray
they go great a white? Doyou spell gray with an A or an
e with an A? Shout outJosiah, Josiah, joe Zaia. All
right, let's do this onto thenext That was actually good. We should
(09:01):
do that again sometime soon. Whatare you doing tonight,
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