November 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Indiana Republicans are balking at a special session on redistricting, and Todd is fired up. Why does redrawing Indiana’s congressional maps matter not just for Hoosiers, but for the future of the country and the survival of our constitutional republic? Todd breaks down the “cold civil war” between two incompatible worldviews, calls out Senate leader Rod Bray for refusing to even hold an open debate, and explains how this cowardice could hand Democrats the House, endless Trump impeachment hearings, and a green light for the radical left’s agenda. Plus, what real leadership should look like in a red state and why Republican voters must hold their so-called leaders accountable.
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My friends, Indiana Republicans should absolutely readistrict. We've talked about
this and I'm going to tell you why on today's program.
This isn't about, by the way, party games, political uh,
just nonsense. This is about the direction of Indiana. That's
the state I'm from. But for those of you from
other states, hang with me because this is relevant to
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your state, your area as well, because as goes states
like Indiana, so goes the country here, especially as we're
talking about something like this, this is about ultimately the
survival of our constitutional republic and that's what I want
to get into today. My friends, thank you for joining us.
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here in the state of Indiana, you might have remembered
In fact, I was interviewing Mica Beck with Lieutenant Governor
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of Indiana a few weeks ago, and we were talking
about this very thing, talking about Indiana convening a special
session to vote on redistricting. Now, why did we get here?
Number one? While we got here, because we are in
the midst of a cold civil war. I have explained this,
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I have documented this. We'll hit on this again today.
But we have two diametrically opposed world views, you know,
and this this is no longer political anymore, my friends.
We are talking about foundational systems of belief. We're talking
about worldviews that are completely and utterly incompatible. And we'll
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get more into that. But that's where this comes from.
And so Trump is president. The Republicans have a very
narrow margin of a majority in the US Congress, they
have a somewhat small margin in the US Senate. And
you know that the tactics and strategies of the left
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are to throw a wrench in years of Trump's agenda,
the agenda of the people who voted for Trump, and
they'll do whatever they take. I've called this the Seinfeld
Newman strategy. If you watch Seinfeld, you will remember an
episode where Jerry Well he had an archnemeysis named Newman
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was postal employee Newman. He worked at the US post Office,
and Newman was just I mean, it was hard to
like Newman. Newman was kind of the embodiment of you
could say evil to an extent. He was always up
to no good. He was friends of Kramer, hated Jerry.
And he was a mailman and it was his desire
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to be transferred to Hawaii. It was the one route
that he wanted the most. And so he was a
quitter number one. He never you know, he he collected
his check no matter how hard he worked. And he
realized that if they look at how successful I am
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at my job, I'm not good enough to get this transfer.
Jerry stepped in and said, now wait a minute, Newman,
if this means getting you the Hawaii, I'll step in
and help you, because and this is the point, he said,
I'll do whatever it takes as long as it takes me,
so long as it takes you Newman away from me.
And so Jerry actually helped Newman. Newman threw in the towel,
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he quit, he didn't deliver the mail. So Jerry stepped
in and Jerry on his first day was more productive
than Newman, delivering the mail at an astonishing success rate.
And then that upset Newman. Newman said, they're never going
to buy this because no postal employee has ever had
that level of success. They'll know it wasn't me. And
so he didn't get, of course, transferred. But this is
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the approach, this is the approach that people who oppose
Trump are taking. Listen, and I've got no problem. This
is part of politics, well part of it's part of politics.
You should be able to oppose the people their agendas
in a political fashion. You should be able to use
the tools at your disposal, but they are being weaponized,
weaponized by the left. You think about what happened to Trump,
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and I don't want to go through the whole litany
of things that Trump has had to deal with, but
suffice it to say, suffice it to say that, because
Republicans are not willing in this state, I'm going to
drill down to actual names here. Somebody that I've had
a I would say a good relationship with. We're not
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close or anything where we've certainly met a couple times,
we know who one another are. But his approach. Here
is the reason. If Democrats win the House this Novem,
not this November, but in twelve months, we've got an
election in less than twelve months. You can bet your
bottom dollar. I'm not condoning gambling, but that's a figure speech.
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You can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will be impeached.
There will be endless investigations, the agenda that has been
voted for will come to a screeching halt. Part of
that is political, but they weaponize it. The abuse of
power to take Trump out and what we've seen throughout
the course of time is absolutely remarkable and for people
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to be cheering it is quite something altogether, just unbelievable
from a sense of from a position of pure logic.
And this is a government supposed to operate on the
rule of law. It has been allowed if you target
Trump to do whatever it wants, and that's what's going
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to happen again, not to mention, not to mention, that
same side that does those things is going to push
through their godless radical agenda. It's folks again, It's not
just differences on taxation, differences on policies. This is fundamental difference.
And we'll get into all all of this. So I
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say all this to say Indiana was going to well,
they started the process of redistricting. I said that when
Mike Beckwit was on the program, we actually were able
to announce that the state I didn't know that was
going to happen, but that there's going to be a
special session called by Governor Mike Braun. So, as you
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know the legislature, because you listened to this program and
you know civics, you know your constitution, the legislature, the
state legislature is the one who's in control of these things.
That includes the House, if you will, the General Assembly
includes the House in the Senate, and so in the
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Senate there is an individual Senate pro tim who leaves
the Senate. His name is Rod Bray in the leadership
of the Senate, and he announced that the Chamber the
Senate will not be convening in December to to vote
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on this. He didn't tell us why. He simply said,
I had his statement here, but for some reason, off
the dig hold on here, let me see if it's
here we go. Yes, every once in a while copies
in the wrong color. So it copied in white. So
I had to highlight it. Here's what he said, Rod Bray.
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Over the last several months, Senate Republicans have given very serious,
very serious I guess we didn't see any of it.
Got to take Rod's word for it here and thoughtful
consideration to the concept of redrawing our state's congressional maps. Today,
I'm announcing that there are not enough votes to move
that idea forward, and the Senate will not reconvene in December.
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That's the end of the statement. First of all, where
did these hearings take place? Rod? Listen? I've met him
on a few occasions. He's a nice guy. This is
not personal. This is a little bit painful for me
because he's actually my state senator. But was this stuff
done in the dark? Rod? The whole point of this,
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let let's get this out into the light. Let's have hearings.
Let's let's let's see where this process leads instead of
just hiding hiding this in the shadows. Where do these
conversations have it? How do you know? How do you
know there's not enough votes? You haven't had the debate,
you haven't had the conversation. We haven't seen the final
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uh to my knowledge, the final recommended districts. What are
you voting against the concept? Will tell me why? See Rod,
I would tell you, And there's going to be a
lot of angry people in the state of Indiana when
they understand what this is about. And listen, if you
hear me, I'm not happy with Rod Bray about this.
I'm not I've invited him. I will tell you. I
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will tell each and every one of you. I've invited
him on this program a couple of times. I haven't
mentioned that directly on here. Never heard a word, never
heard of no thank you, never heard I'm not interested.
We'll talk about this like I heard nothing, absolutely nothing.
Let me tell you something, let me tell you something.
I hear things when I've invited Rocana. Rocana is a
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liberal leftist Democrat from the People's Republic of California. Rocana's
people have reached out to decline, I don't listen. We
don't do this a lot, but we do this sometimes.
We reach out to people that we want to have
on the program. I heard more from Rocanna's people than
I heard from Rod Bray in his people. He's been
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invited on this program a couple of times. I simply
wanted to ask him. See, I wanted to find out
information that's not stated in the statement because I think
that's relevant to you at number one, those of you
in the state that I'm in, but it's also relevant
to people in the other states to realize what the
problems are, what the holdups are. We don't know, and
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we won't know unless something changes. And I'll tell you
if you want that to change, you have the opportunity.
You have the opportunity to get involved and to reach
out and to contact your state senator or even to
reach out to Rod Bray's office, uh and to to
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email listen. And I want this to be it doesn't
need to be hateful of vitriolic, but you need to
let him know. Trump's out there saying that they are
going Trump has said, look, if you're against this, I'm
going to be I'm going to be supporting people who
are going to primary these folks. Now, Rod Bray his
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this this seat has been in his uh well been
occupied by his family. Again, I don't like this. This
is someone that's from just a few miles south of
here in the in the community to the south. I've
his his father was the same. I believe it's maybe
even third generation. I had to look that up to
be to be sure, which that raised a whole other
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issue for me, which, by the way, I've mentioned that,
not specifically about Rod Bray before, but I mentioned that before,
but where he's supposed to be a leader. This is
not leadership. I'm sorry, this is I'm not sorry. I'm
personally uncomfortable having to say this to you, but this
is not leadership. This is pathetic. This is cowardice. This
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is not how you do this. Listen, tell us why,
tell us why the votes aren't there, tell us why
this is a bad idea. Tell us why you're not
calling the session to try to hash it out. Why
can't we do that. There's no there's no information on here,
no information whatsoever. They want you to shut up and
just accept it and move on. And I'm telling you,
I'm telling you, when you think about what this is
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about and where this could head, you're gonna want the
state of Indiana to redistrict. You're gonna want your state.
If you're in the red state, you're gonna want your
state to redistrict. There's nothing illegal about this. There is
nothing immoral about this. I've been through this, I've been
through this a lot. Some people will say, well, you know,
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we shouldn't do this for political purposes, folks, Drawing districts
is by definition a political activity. Yes, it's done every
ten years, but there is absolutely nothing that says it
must be done. It can only be done every ten years.
This is perfectly and legitimately within the authority of the
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state legislature in Indiana. And they want to punt. They
want to punt for reasons, and they don't want to
tell you why. That is cowardice, that is not leadership.
And I will tell you I will do this pains me,
it does. It pains me. If you're seeing it on
the video, you can probably see it on my face.
It pains me to say this. But I'm going to
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tell you in the state of Indiana. And this applies
around the country too, so whatever state you're from, but
I would say it even in Indiana specifically, there are
there's a lot of people in elected offices who are Republicans,
who are not conservative. They are country club republican types.
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They are moderate Republican types. And this ain't the nineteen
fifties and sixties and eighties anymore, my friends. We are
in the survival for our constitutional republic. If you're going
to play with that set of rules, if you think
that you're dealing with the Democrat Party that has one foot,
even one tiptoe, the Democrat Party leadership, the people who
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are elected office, if you think they've got one tiny
little toe tipped in to reality at all, I think
that you are highly, highly mistaken. We have senators, well,
we have Republicans in this state. Rhinos in this state.
Maybe the best name for them Republican in name only.
Republicans like Eric Holcomb, who was our governor, the hunker
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down Indiana as he went around and lived his life
during COVID, going into restaurants, hugging people that worked in restaurants,
while telling the rest of us to stay in place,
to not get within six feet of each other, probably
not even to look at each other. But he was
cruising around. We couldn't go to the state parks, we
couldn't go to Brown County, but he certainly could. There
was a place where the governor can go reside there.
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He's no longer our governor, thankfully. It's been rumored that
he might run for senator. If that happens. If that happens,
you will hear a lot more about Eric Holcombe, because
that cannot happen here in the state of Indiana, not
just for the state of Indiana, before before the overall, well,
for the overall interest of this nation. We have Todd Young,
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another one who seems more interested at times in reaching
across the aul to find something moderate to agree with
and promote with Chris Coons or some other Democrat senator
no leadership here. Every six years you'll see the airwaves
filled with ads promoting Todd Young, and he'll remind you
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that he's was a US Marine, to which I applaud
him and thank him for a service. I appreciate people
who did those sorts of things. That does not mean
that you are ideologically ad in and of itself. That's
not the only reason to vote for somebody. It turns
out the things that they support and the things that
they vote for, the leadership that they actually exhibit in
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office matters a whole lot. Todd Young another one I
we never get. First of all, we don't pursue a
lot of interviews. But that's another one. I asked him
to come on this program several years ago. I haven't
since then I lost all. I just I lost respect
for just the entire approach. I reached out to him
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when there was a It might have been Gorsis. I
think it was Gorcius, it could have been Capital. I've
shared this on this program before, invited him to come
on the program to talk about you know that nomination.
In his office said, well, he doesn't want to talk
about it until after the vote. That is not leadership.
It's the same thing I see here with Rod Bray,
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and this is the sort of problem. And it pains
me Rod to say this. He never got back here,
not even to say I just don't want to talk
about these things. But listen, now, we've got a situation
where the state of Indiana is being run by people
who are in many cases who either don't understand what
we're up against or don't care to win the fight.
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There's nothing wrong with the redistricting. As I've talked about
in other programs which we can get into, there's nothing
wrong with redistricting. There's nothing that's First of all, we
got to win the districts. No matter how the districts
are drawn, you've got to win the districts. Number one,
number two, The Democrats have done it to the max practically,
and so they've suddenly said, we don't want there to
be any more quote unquote jerrymandering, which jerrymandering to me
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has always meant drawing these completely absurd shapes to pull
Democrat or Republican voters, you know that are in very
far apart towns have these real skinny sections that connect them,
and then they gobble up a city or something. By definition,
if you just look at where red voters are and
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blue voters, jerry manderin is naturally something that's more democratic,
not theoretically but for the party and the interest of
the party that it is for the Republicans because of
how Democrats typically live in cities and Republicans live across
the countryside in more rural and suburban areas, and so
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we're afraid either we don't know what we're up against,
which is a problem if you're in leadership, or they
don't care and they think that we are playing a
game of politics with a group of people on the
other side of the aisle. And I'm talking about elected officials,
I'm not talking about the people they purport to represent,
because I think the rank and file the rank file
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are oftentimes reasonable people. It gets harder to be reasonable
with some of these things that these leftist lunatics are promoting.
But the truth is the rank and file still have
largely sense and the leadership has gone completely bonkers. They
are listen when government is your god and it is
for the radical left, and they see that their religion
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is about to crumble because of conservative leadership or Maga
movement or whatever you want to call it. This is
they'll do whatever it takes. This is where the Seinfuld
Newman strategy comes in. Whatever it takes, as long as
it takes them, so long as it takes Trump out
of power, out of the ability to implement his agenda,
to put him back in the crosshairs metaphorical of course,
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for impeachment whatever, that is the strategy. And if people
like Rod Bray interfere with this, if other senators in
the state of Indiana allow this to happen, don't put
their big boy and big girl pants on and take
this thing and put it into the open and debate it. Listen,
if this goes to this, if this is if these
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arguments are heard in the Senate, which they absolutely can do,
that If they want to fight about this in an
open fashion and this loses, so be it. But do
not tell me, Rod Bray, do not tell the people
of Indiana that the votes aren't their period, end of discussion.
If you think that's where this is ending, you are
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greatly mistaken, greatly mistaken. Especially when President Trump steps into
the frame. My invitation still stands for Rod Bray. I
don't think he'll take it, especially now. It's not personal, Rod,
It's not personal, but it's not leadership. This is honestly
kind of pathetic. If you're asking me this stuff could
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be done in the open light, in the light of day,
and I don't know why you just didn't do it.
This is just inexcusable. I don't know. Again, I'd love
to hear your explanations. The people listening to this program
would love to hear your explanations. But again I don't.
I mean, what do you say. I don't know what
to say. This is this is where we are. This
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is where we are, and I don't listen. Indiana Republicans
are not are not the best example to follow. In
many cases, at least tell us what you're thinking. Don't
just close it up. This is there's legitimate things if
I'm going to get into here after the break, but
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Quick time out, my friends. You're listening here to the
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one and only Todd Huff A little fired up today.
Back here in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends.
Talking here about the decision of Rod Bray Republicans in
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the Senate. I guess we don't know. They just decided, Hey,
we don't have the votes. They didn't have a vote.
They haven't had open debate, they've had closed door meetings
to talk about this. I guess I don't know. They
don't want you to know why. They don't want you
to know who's on record. They don't want you to
know what they think this should upset listen to me.
This should infuriate the people of India. Whatever happens, whatever happens,
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this should infuriate the people of Indiana. If this thing goes,
if they have opened up a Senate session, as they
should here, if they do this, they do this, They
should do this in the light of day. This is
how they're used to operating. My friends, and listen. For
those of you who say I don't criticize the Republican
Party enough, please just remember this program, this episode today.
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This is the sort of thing that is so disheartening
the left. It's remarkable. It's remarkable. The left is willing
to do whatever they need to do. It doesn't matter.
You need Trump prosecuted, we got it. You need Trump, well,
you can take that thought line of thought however you
want to take it. There are people they cheer, they
cheer for bad things to happen to Trump, and I'm
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not listening. I'm not that should not happen. That should
not happen. But if there's something that is legal, ethical
and moral that just has a political price tag that
you got to calculate that will potentially help in saving
this constitutional republic, I hope to goodness you would decide
to stand up and to fight at least to have
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the conversation in the light of day. If it loses,
if it doesn't pass, and we can see how the
votes are tallied, then let it be. Or Rod, if
you're going to hide, If Republican senators are going to
hide for whatever reason, I don't know, because maybe because
they're just principally to get against us by principle, that's fine.
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Explain it. Don't just say I don't have the votes.
Why why aren't they Why aren't they there? Do you
understand the cost of this? Do you understand what's going
to happen if Trump is If Trump is elected, and
by or excuse me, if if Democrats win, there will
be there will be more impeachment hearings that the policies
of the unhinged, godless radical left will have a foothold
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again in Washington, d C. This is a recipe for disaster.
We have so many things to fix in this country.
We're on the path toward fixing them. Things are dramatically better.
They still have a long way to go. Don't make
no mistakes about it. But if you look at what
has happened with deportations and the security security of the border.
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If you've looked at what's happened with inflation since Trump's
come into off, all these things headed in the right direction,
all these things, if you looked at what happened when
it comes to how the left has weaponized everything. I mean,
you know, it wasn't that long ago that the FBI
agents were targeting people who went to school board meetings
to voice displeasure or discontent with the superintendent. Listen, I'm
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not here. There is a line. You shouldn't be threatening,
it shouldn't be violent, but you ought to be able
to hold public officials accountable. I had a friend who
a couple of years ago, several years ago, ran was
was on the town council of a local community. Was
he One of his big pet peeves was how many
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things or how many things that were happening behind closed doors.
He was all about transparency. You might have disagreed with
the style. There were things stylistically that I disagreed with
with him, but I will tell you he did a
lot of good things to bringing transparency back to the
town that which in which he operated, which which again
had had become accustomed to doing things with wink and
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a nod and a hand shake behind closed doors, and
that can happen with any group of people, Republicans, Democrats.
Apparently the state Senate here in Indiana. Trump posted this
to Trump to Truth's social very disappointed in Indiana State
Senate Republicans led by Rhinos Senators Rod Bray and Greg
Good for not wanting to redistrict or state, allowing the
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United States Congress perhaps to gain student me allowing the
US Congress to perhaps gain two more Republican seats. The
Democrats have done redistricting for years, often illegally, and all
other appropriate Republican states have done it because of these
two politically correct type gentlemen in quotations. I don't know,
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it's just how Trump posts things and a few others.
They could be depriving Republicans of a majority in the House,
a very big deal. That's all in caps. By the way,
California is trying to pick up five seats and no
one is complaining about that. It's weak republics that cause
our country such problems. It's why we have crazy policies
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and ideas that are bad for America. Also, a friend
of mine, Governor Mike Brown perhaps is not working the
way he should to get the necessary votes. So he's
turning up the heat on the governor, Mike Broad, who's
the one that called for this special session. But Trump says, listen,
I don't care that you took the first step. We
have results to We have desired results, and they didn't happen.
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You better get on the phone and start lobbying, calling
your senators here in the state of Indiana. He says,
perhaps he is not working the way he should to
get the necessary votes, considering that Mike wouldn't be governor
without me, not even close. This is Trump talking is disappointing.
Any Republican that votes against this important redistricting, potentially having
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an impact on America itself, should be primaried. Indiana as
a state was strong, smart and patriotic people. They want
to see our country in and want to make America
great again. All caps Senators Bray Good and the others
to do. Others to be released to the public later
this afternoon. This was posted on uh I guess this's
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been yesterday yesterday morning. Should do their job and do
it now. If not, let's get them out of office.
As a SAP as soon as possible. So the political
lines have been drawn. And I'll say, listen, I know
some of you, some of you are going to pick
up the phone or go to your email and send
messages to Rod Bray. Listen to me. And I know
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this is only for a fringe, a fringe, a couple
of people. But this doesn't need to be vitriolic. This
but we need to hold these folks accountable too. Doesn't
mean you can't be to the point. It doesn't mean
that you can't voice your anger, frustration, just your desire
to see transparency in your government over this important topic.
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Doesn't mean that they you know, you can't just state it,
you know, state it clearly. That's fine. But this doesn't
need to be you know, we don't need heat mail
or anything like that. That's important to me. I voiced
my displeasure. I voiced my displeasure with Rod. He's welcome
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to come on this program. He hasn't responded. He hasn't responded.
More importantly, forget about me. He hasn't responded to you.
He hasn't sent a statement. There you go, we don't
have the votes. Let's move on. No, that's not the
way that this is going to work, Rod, and I
think you're about to find that out now that Trump
has entered the mix. You're better. You better rethink this strategy.
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You better rethink this strategy. I would highly recommend that
you call the session, let us see, let us see
be on record. If you think it's a bad idea, fine,
explain why it is, Explain why it is. I'm going
to tell you why I think it's absolutely necessary and
making sure we save our constitutional republic. And I'm not
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elected by the people. If I can do it, why
can't you do it? Rod? You can do it here.
You can you don't have to. You can ignore me forever,
but you can do it. And more than just a
simple statement saying we don't have the votes, how do
you know. You haven't called the session, you haven't had
the debate, you haven't drawn the specific maps. So far
as I know, what are you against. You don't have
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the votes for what There's nothing that exists yet. The
special session is designed to specify what that is. And
then you can go from there and tell us if
it's wrong. Just tell us if it's wrong, tell us something,
tell us something, show leadership. This is completely, completely inexcusable
for this position in the UI or for shut me
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in the State Senate. Absolutely inexcusable, honestly not worthy of
the position based upon this and this alone. Friends, I
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So I'm gonna list next segment we're going to go
through and we're gonna say, we're going to talk about
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what's at stake here. We're going to talk about why
this specifically, why redistricting is important, why it needs to
be done, and I'm gonna do that. I'm going to
do that specifically, which is more than we've gotten from
the Senate here, more than we've gotten from Rod Bray.
I'm not just going to say I think we have
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the votes or we don't. I'm going to tell you
why I think it's a good idea and why I
think it needs to be pursued quick time. Out though,
got to take a break with my friends back here
in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. You know
that some politicians, as we've discussed so far this program,
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are stuck in the nineteen fifties, thinking of this as
nineteen fifties politics, nineteen sixties, seventies, eighties politics, while some
of us are focused on saving this constitutional republic, understanding
the dire straits that it is in, and understanding why
they're in. We are in those dire straits. So I'm
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going to continue this conversation talking here specifically about the
Indiana State Senate's announcement that they're not going to be
considering redistricting here in the state. And I'll get to that,
my friends in a moment. I'm going to tell you
why I think they absolutely should, and listen. I challenge
Rod Bray or any other Republican senator who's against this,
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who doesn't want to go on record they want to
stay in the Murca middle. I encourage you to tell
me why I'm wrong. You can come on this program,
you can just post it. You don't have to acknowledge me.
I'm irrelevant here. What's relevant is what you announce to
the people that you represent in this state. That's what's relevant.
And the answers that you've given thus far are pathetic.
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And this may sound a little heavy handed to some people,
and I don't really care. I'm not in the mood
to really matter. It just doesn't matter to me. It
doesn't matter to me. This is I think an abdicate,
abdication of duty and responsibility by Rod Bray and others.
I don't know how to make this anymore. I am
disgusted by this, if I'm being quite honest. So but
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they can tell you. Tell them, tell them, tell the
people why I'm wrong, tell them, tell them. Don't just
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I've never suggested that he was, but I would say
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Trump aligns with conservative thought on and so that's always
I've never understood the never trumpers. I've been through this.
I don't want to go through that today. But let
me say this. Let me say this. We are in
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the midst of an ideological battle that is nothing like
what we've experienced, at least in recent times. Recent years.
We aren't just disagreeing about preferred tax rates and things
around the edges. We have people who absolutely hate this
country has founded. It's preposterous. I've been through this. They
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hate this country has founded. They want to remake this nation.
It is something different. They want to pack the US
Supreme Court with liberal justices so that they can override
the concurrent court. That is a course comprised of five
or maybe six people who care about the Constitution. What's
at stake here is abortion on demand. What's at stake
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here is gender surgery on minors. These are not moderate positions.
And by the way, what's the compromise on this. What
are the compromise on some of these issues? Marxist style
ideological system. Think about Zoran Mamdani. That is who a
lot of these elected officials are, who they agree with,
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what they would like to see done in our nation,
in your cities, that's what they would like to see done.
My friends, it is a dangerous thing and we're gonna
witness New York come crashing to the ground here. I
hate to say it, I do. It's a fantastic city.
They're going to destroy it. And you know what, even
worse so, they will destroy this country if they were
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given the power to do so. Open borders. Think about
the crime, the drugs, the sex trafficking, all of that,
All of that was allowed to happen. Let this sink in.
All of that was allowed to happen for decades because
of weak politicians. You can say the Democrats wanted it,
but you could also say the Republicans didn't stop it
until a guy named Donald Trump stepped onto the scene
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and showed the Republicans how to do it. Folks were
talking about collectivism, massive spending, spending that we will never
recover from. These things are all hanging in the balance
and a weaponization of the government which is coming, which
is absolutely coming, if we don't do something to stop it.
That's what's at stake here. That is what what is
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at stake here. There is nothing that says one district
should be Republican or Democrat. Candidates have to win whatever
these districts are drawn to. These districts can be redrawn
and the people can vote. You can debate this. You
can have this done and open rod, not just in secret.
Indiana Senate Republicans have this debate. If the argument doesn't
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support it, if the people don't support it, then you
can vote against it. Do not run from it. That's
not leadership. What you're doing right now is not leadership.
It is candidly pathetic, pathetic. Why can't you do even
if you disagree with me, do what I just did,
share your thoughts. Don't be cowardly. I gotta go SDG
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My friends, Indiana Republicans should absolutely readistrict. We've talked about
this and I'm going to tell you why on today's program.
This isn't about, by the way, party games, political uh,
just nonsense. This is about the direction of Indiana. That's
the state I'm from. But for those of you from
other states, hang with me because this is relevant to
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your state, your area as well, because as goes states
like Indiana, so goes the country here, especially as we're
talking about something like this, this is about ultimately the
survival of our constitutional republic and that's what I want
to get into today. My friends, thank you for joining us.
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In fact, I was interviewing Mica Beck with Lieutenant Governor
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of Indiana a few weeks ago, and we were talking
about this very thing, talking about Indiana convening a special
session to vote on redistricting. Now, why did we get here?
Number one? While we got here, because we are in
the midst of a cold civil war. I have explained this,
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I have documented this. We'll hit on this again today.
But we have two diametrically opposed world views, you know,
and this this is no longer political anymore, my friends.
We are talking about foundational systems of belief. We're talking
about worldviews that are completely and utterly incompatible. And we'll
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get more into that. But that's where this comes from.
And so Trump is president. The Republicans have a very
narrow margin of a majority in the US Congress, they
have a somewhat small margin in the US Senate. And
you know that the tactics and strategies of the left
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are to throw a wrench in years of Trump's agenda,
the agenda of the people who voted for Trump, and
they'll do whatever they take. I've called this the Seinfeld
Newman strategy. If you watch Seinfeld, you will remember an
episode where Jerry Well he had an archnemeysis named Newman
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was postal employee Newman. He worked at the US post Office,
and Newman was just I mean, it was hard to
like Newman. Newman was kind of the embodiment of you
could say evil to an extent. He was always up
to no good. He was friends of Kramer, hated Jerry.
And he was a mailman and it was his desire
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to be transferred to Hawaii. It was the one route
that he wanted the most. And so he was a
quitter number one. He never you know, he he collected
his check no matter how hard he worked. And he
realized that if they look at how successful I am
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at my job, I'm not good enough to get this transfer.
Jerry stepped in and said, now wait a minute, Newman,
if this means getting you the Hawaii, I'll step in
and help you, because and this is the point, he said,
I'll do whatever it takes as long as it takes me,
so long as it takes you Newman away from me.
And so Jerry actually helped Newman. Newman threw in the towel,
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he quit, he didn't deliver the mail. So Jerry stepped
in and Jerry on his first day was more productive
than Newman, delivering the mail at an astonishing success rate.
And then that upset Newman. Newman said, they're never going
to buy this because no postal employee has ever had
that level of success. They'll know it wasn't me. And
so he didn't get, of course, transferred. But this is
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the approach, this is the approach that people who oppose
Trump are taking. Listen, and I've got no problem. This
is part of politics, well part of it's part of politics.
You should be able to oppose the people their agendas
in a political fashion. You should be able to use
the tools at your disposal, but they are being weaponized,
weaponized by the left. You think about what happened to Trump,
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and I don't want to go through the whole litany
of things that Trump has had to deal with, but
suffice it to say, suffice it to say that, because
Republicans are not willing in this state, I'm going to
drill down to actual names here. Somebody that I've had
a I would say a good relationship with. We're not
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close or anything where we've certainly met a couple times,
we know who one another are. But his approach. Here
is the reason. If Democrats win the House this Novem,
not this November, but in twelve months, we've got an
election in less than twelve months. You can bet your
bottom dollar. I'm not condoning gambling, but that's a figure speech.
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You can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will be impeached.
There will be endless investigations, the agenda that has been
voted for will come to a screeching halt. Part of
that is political, but they weaponize it. The abuse of
power to take Trump out and what we've seen throughout
the course of time is absolutely remarkable and for people
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to be cheering it is quite something altogether, just unbelievable
from a sense of from a position of pure logic.
And this is a government supposed to operate on the
rule of law. It has been allowed if you target
Trump to do whatever it wants, and that's what's going
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to happen again, not to mention, not to mention, that
same side that does those things is going to push
through their godless radical agenda. It's folks again, It's not
just differences on taxation, differences on policies. This is fundamental difference.
And we'll get into all all of this. So I
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say all this to say Indiana was going to well,
they started the process of redistricting. I said that when
Mike Beckwit was on the program, we actually were able
to announce that the state I didn't know that was
going to happen, but that there's going to be a
special session called by Governor Mike Braun. So, as you
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know the legislature, because you listened to this program and
you know civics, you know your constitution, the legislature, the
state legislature is the one who's in control of these things.
That includes the House, if you will, the General Assembly
includes the House in the Senate, and so in the
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Senate there is an individual Senate pro tim who leaves
the Senate. His name is Rod Bray in the leadership
of the Senate, and he announced that the Chamber the
Senate will not be convening in December to to vote
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on this. He didn't tell us why. He simply said,
I had his statement here, but for some reason, off
the dig hold on here, let me see if it's
here we go. Yes, every once in a while copies
in the wrong color. So it copied in white. So
I had to highlight it. Here's what he said, Rod Bray.
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Over the last several months, Senate Republicans have given very serious,
very serious I guess we didn't see any of it.
Got to take Rod's word for it here and thoughtful
consideration to the concept of redrawing our state's congressional maps. Today,
I'm announcing that there are not enough votes to move
that idea forward, and the Senate will not reconvene in December.
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That's the end of the statement. First of all, where
did these hearings take place? Rod? Listen? I've met him
on a few occasions. He's a nice guy. This is
not personal. This is a little bit painful for me
because he's actually my state senator. But was this stuff
done in the dark? Rod? The whole point of this,
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let let's get this out into the light. Let's have hearings.
Let's let's let's see where this process leads instead of
just hiding hiding this in the shadows. Where do these
conversations have it? How do you know? How do you
know there's not enough votes? You haven't had the debate,
you haven't had the conversation. We haven't seen the final
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uh to my knowledge, the final recommended districts. What are
you voting against the concept? Will tell me why? See Rod,
I would tell you, And there's going to be a
lot of angry people in the state of Indiana when
they understand what this is about. And listen, if you
hear me, I'm not happy with Rod Bray about this.
I'm not I've invited him. I will tell you. I
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will tell each and every one of you. I've invited
him on this program a couple of times. I haven't
mentioned that directly on here. Never heard a word, never
heard of no thank you, never heard I'm not interested.
We'll talk about this like I heard nothing, absolutely nothing.
Let me tell you something, let me tell you something.
I hear things when I've invited Rocana. Rocana is a
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liberal leftist Democrat from the People's Republic of California. Rocana's
people have reached out to decline, I don't listen. We
don't do this a lot, but we do this sometimes.
We reach out to people that we want to have
on the program. I heard more from Rocanna's people than
I heard from Rod Bray in his people. He's been
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invited on this program a couple of times. I simply
wanted to ask him. See, I wanted to find out
information that's not stated in the statement because I think
that's relevant to you at number one, those of you
in the state that I'm in, but it's also relevant
to people in the other states to realize what the
problems are, what the holdups are. We don't know, and
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we won't know unless something changes. And I'll tell you
if you want that to change, you have the opportunity.
You have the opportunity to get involved and to reach
out and to contact your state senator or even to
reach out to Rod Bray's office, uh and to to
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email listen. And I want this to be it doesn't
need to be hateful of vitriolic, but you need to
let him know. Trump's out there saying that they are
going Trump has said, look, if you're against this, I'm
going to be I'm going to be supporting people who
are going to primary these folks. Now, Rod Bray his
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this this seat has been in his uh well been
occupied by his family. Again, I don't like this. This
is someone that's from just a few miles south of
here in the in the community to the south. I've
his his father was the same. I believe it's maybe
even third generation. I had to look that up to
be to be sure, which that raised a whole other
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issue for me, which, by the way, I've mentioned that,
not specifically about Rod Bray before, but I mentioned that before,
but where he's supposed to be a leader. This is
not leadership. I'm sorry, this is I'm not sorry. I'm
personally uncomfortable having to say this to you, but this
is not leadership. This is pathetic. This is cowardice. This
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is not how you do this. Listen, tell us why,
tell us why the votes aren't there, tell us why
this is a bad idea. Tell us why you're not
calling the session to try to hash it out. Why
can't we do that. There's no there's no information on here,
no information whatsoever. They want you to shut up and
just accept it and move on. And I'm telling you,
I'm telling you, when you think about what this is
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about and where this could head, you're gonna want the
state of Indiana to redistrict. You're gonna want your state.
If you're in the red state, you're gonna want your
state to redistrict. There's nothing illegal about this. There is
nothing immoral about this. I've been through this, I've been
through this a lot. Some people will say, well, you know,
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we shouldn't do this for political purposes, folks, Drawing districts
is by definition a political activity. Yes, it's done every
ten years, but there is absolutely nothing that says it
must be done. It can only be done every ten years.
This is perfectly and legitimately within the authority of the
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state legislature in Indiana. And they want to punt. They
want to punt for reasons, and they don't want to
tell you why. That is cowardice, that is not leadership.
And I will tell you I will do this pains me,
it does. It pains me. If you're seeing it on
the video, you can probably see it on my face.
It pains me to say this. But I'm going to
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tell you in the state of Indiana. And this applies
around the country too, so whatever state you're from, but
I would say it even in Indiana specifically, there are
there's a lot of people in elected offices who are Republicans,
who are not conservative. They are country club republican types.
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They are moderate Republican types. And this ain't the nineteen
fifties and sixties and eighties anymore, my friends. We are
in the survival for our constitutional republic. If you're going
to play with that set of rules, if you think
that you're dealing with the Democrat Party that has one foot,
even one tiptoe, the Democrat Party leadership, the people who
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are elected office, if you think they've got one tiny
little toe tipped in to reality at all, I think
that you are highly, highly mistaken. We have senators, well,
we have Republicans in this state. Rhinos in this state.
Maybe the best name for them Republican in name only.
Republicans like Eric Holcomb, who was our governor, the hunker
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down Indiana as he went around and lived his life
during COVID, going into restaurants, hugging people that worked in restaurants,
while telling the rest of us to stay in place,
to not get within six feet of each other, probably
not even to look at each other. But he was
cruising around. We couldn't go to the state parks, we
couldn't go to Brown County, but he certainly could. There
was a place where the governor can go reside there.
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He's no longer our governor, thankfully. It's been rumored that
he might run for senator. If that happens. If that happens,
you will hear a lot more about Eric Holcombe, because
that cannot happen here in the state of Indiana, not
just for the state of Indiana, before before the overall, well,
for the overall interest of this nation. We have Todd Young,
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another one who seems more interested at times in reaching
across the aul to find something moderate to agree with
and promote with Chris Coons or some other Democrat senator
no leadership here. Every six years you'll see the airwaves
filled with ads promoting Todd Young, and he'll remind you
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that he's was a US Marine, to which I applaud
him and thank him for a service. I appreciate people
who did those sorts of things. That does not mean
that you are ideologically ad in and of itself. That's
not the only reason to vote for somebody. It turns
out the things that they support and the things that
they vote for, the leadership that they actually exhibit in
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office matters a whole lot. Todd Young another one I
we never get. First of all, we don't pursue a
lot of interviews. But that's another one. I asked him
to come on this program several years ago. I haven't
since then I lost all. I just I lost respect
for just the entire approach. I reached out to him
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when there was a It might have been Gorsis. I
think it was Gorcius, it could have been Capital. I've
shared this on this program before, invited him to come
on the program to talk about you know that nomination.
In his office said, well, he doesn't want to talk
about it until after the vote. That is not leadership.
It's the same thing I see here with Rod Bray,
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and this is the sort of problem. And it pains
me Rod to say this. He never got back here,
not even to say I just don't want to talk
about these things. But listen, now, we've got a situation
where the state of Indiana is being run by people
who are in many cases who either don't understand what
we're up against or don't care to win the fight.
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There's nothing wrong with the redistricting. As I've talked about
in other programs which we can get into, there's nothing
wrong with redistricting. There's nothing that's First of all, we
got to win the districts. No matter how the districts
are drawn, you've got to win the districts. Number one,
number two, The Democrats have done it to the max practically,
and so they've suddenly said, we don't want there to
be any more quote unquote jerrymandering, which jerrymandering to me
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has always meant drawing these completely absurd shapes to pull
Democrat or Republican voters, you know that are in very
far apart towns have these real skinny sections that connect them,
and then they gobble up a city or something. By definition,
if you just look at where red voters are and
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blue voters, jerry manderin is naturally something that's more democratic,
not theoretically but for the party and the interest of
the party that it is for the Republicans because of
how Democrats typically live in cities and Republicans live across
the countryside in more rural and suburban areas, and so
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we're afraid either we don't know what we're up against,
which is a problem if you're in leadership, or they
don't care and they think that we are playing a
game of politics with a group of people on the
other side of the aisle. And I'm talking about elected officials,
I'm not talking about the people they purport to represent,
because I think the rank and file the rank file
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are oftentimes reasonable people. It gets harder to be reasonable
with some of these things that these leftist lunatics are promoting.
But the truth is the rank and file still have
largely sense and the leadership has gone completely bonkers. They
are listen when government is your god and it is
for the radical left, and they see that their religion
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is about to crumble because of conservative leadership or Maga
movement or whatever you want to call it. This is
they'll do whatever it takes. This is where the Seinfuld
Newman strategy comes in. Whatever it takes, as long as
it takes them, so long as it takes Trump out
of power, out of the ability to implement his agenda,
to put him back in the crosshairs metaphorical of course,
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for impeachment whatever, that is the strategy. And if people
like Rod Bray interfere with this, if other senators in
the state of Indiana allow this to happen, don't put
their big boy and big girl pants on and take
this thing and put it into the open and debate it. Listen,
if this goes to this, if this is if these
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arguments are heard in the Senate, which they absolutely can do,
that If they want to fight about this in an
open fashion and this loses, so be it. But do
not tell me, Rod Bray, do not tell the people
of Indiana that the votes aren't their period, end of discussion.
If you think that's where this is ending, you are
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greatly mistaken, greatly mistaken. Especially when President Trump steps into
the frame. My invitation still stands for Rod Bray. I
don't think he'll take it, especially now. It's not personal, Rod,
It's not personal, but it's not leadership. This is honestly
kind of pathetic. If you're asking me this stuff could
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be done in the open light, in the light of day,
and I don't know why you just didn't do it.
This is just inexcusable. I don't know. Again, I'd love
to hear your explanations. The people listening to this program
would love to hear your explanations. But again I don't.
I mean, what do you say. I don't know what
to say. This is this is where we are. This
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is where we are, and I don't listen. Indiana Republicans
are not are not the best example to follow. In
many cases, at least tell us what you're thinking. Don't
just close it up. This is there's legitimate things if
I'm going to get into here after the break, but
I've got to take a time out. Friends. By the way,
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Quick time out, my friends. You're listening here to the
home of conservative not better Talk. I'm your host, the
one and only Todd Huff A little fired up today.
Back here in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends.
Talking here about the decision of Rod Bray Republicans in
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the Senate. I guess we don't know. They just decided, Hey,
we don't have the votes. They didn't have a vote.
They haven't had open debate, they've had closed door meetings
to talk about this. I guess I don't know. They
don't want you to know why. They don't want you
to know who's on record. They don't want you to
know what they think this should upset listen to me.
This should infuriate the people of India. Whatever happens, whatever happens,
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this should infuriate the people of Indiana. If this thing goes,
if they have opened up a Senate session, as they
should here, if they do this, they do this, They
should do this in the light of day. This is
how they're used to operating. My friends, and listen. For
those of you who say I don't criticize the Republican
Party enough, please just remember this program, this episode today.
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This is the sort of thing that is so disheartening
the left. It's remarkable. It's remarkable. The left is willing
to do whatever they need to do. It doesn't matter.
You need Trump prosecuted, we got it. You need Trump, well,
you can take that thought line of thought however you
want to take it. There are people they cheer, they
cheer for bad things to happen to Trump, and I'm
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not listening. I'm not that should not happen. That should
not happen. But if there's something that is legal, ethical
and moral that just has a political price tag that
you got to calculate that will potentially help in saving
this constitutional republic, I hope to goodness you would decide
to stand up and to fight at least to have
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the conversation in the light of day. If it loses,
if it doesn't pass, and we can see how the
votes are tallied, then let it be. Or Rod, if
you're going to hide, If Republican senators are going to
hide for whatever reason, I don't know, because maybe because
they're just principally to get against us by principle, that's fine.
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Explain it. Don't just say I don't have the votes.
Why why aren't they Why aren't they there? Do you
understand the cost of this? Do you understand what's going
to happen if Trump is If Trump is elected, and
by or excuse me, if if Democrats win, there will
be there will be more impeachment hearings that the policies
of the unhinged, godless radical left will have a foothold
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again in Washington, d C. This is a recipe for disaster.
We have so many things to fix in this country.
We're on the path toward fixing them. Things are dramatically better.
They still have a long way to go. Don't make
no mistakes about it. But if you look at what
has happened with deportations and the security security of the border.
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If you've looked at what's happened with inflation since Trump's
come into off, all these things headed in the right direction,
all these things, if you looked at what happened when
it comes to how the left has weaponized everything. I mean,
you know, it wasn't that long ago that the FBI
agents were targeting people who went to school board meetings
to voice displeasure or discontent with the superintendent. Listen, I'm
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not here. There is a line. You shouldn't be threatening,
it shouldn't be violent, but you ought to be able
to hold public officials accountable. I had a friend who
a couple of years ago, several years ago, ran was
was on the town council of a local community. Was
he One of his big pet peeves was how many
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things or how many things that were happening behind closed doors.
He was all about transparency. You might have disagreed with
the style. There were things stylistically that I disagreed with
with him, but I will tell you he did a
lot of good things to bringing transparency back to the
town that which in which he operated, which which again
had had become accustomed to doing things with wink and
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a nod and a hand shake behind closed doors, and
that can happen with any group of people, Republicans, Democrats.
Apparently the state Senate here in Indiana. Trump posted this
to Trump to Truth's social very disappointed in Indiana State
Senate Republicans led by Rhinos Senators Rod Bray and Greg
Good for not wanting to redistrict or state, allowing the
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United States Congress perhaps to gain student me allowing the
US Congress to perhaps gain two more Republican seats. The
Democrats have done redistricting for years, often illegally, and all
other appropriate Republican states have done it because of these
two politically correct type gentlemen in quotations. I don't know,
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it's just how Trump posts things and a few others.
They could be depriving Republicans of a majority in the House,
a very big deal. That's all in caps. By the way,
California is trying to pick up five seats and no
one is complaining about that. It's weak republics that cause
our country such problems. It's why we have crazy policies
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and ideas that are bad for America. Also, a friend
of mine, Governor Mike Brown perhaps is not working the
way he should to get the necessary votes. So he's
turning up the heat on the governor, Mike Broad, who's
the one that called for this special session. But Trump says, listen,
I don't care that you took the first step. We
have results to We have desired results, and they didn't happen.
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You better get on the phone and start lobbying, calling
your senators here in the state of Indiana. He says,
perhaps he is not working the way he should to
get the necessary votes, considering that Mike wouldn't be governor
without me, not even close. This is Trump talking is disappointing.
Any Republican that votes against this important redistricting, potentially having
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an impact on America itself, should be primaried. Indiana as
a state was strong, smart and patriotic people. They want
to see our country in and want to make America
great again. All caps Senators Bray Good and the others
to do. Others to be released to the public later
this afternoon. This was posted on uh I guess this's
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been yesterday yesterday morning. Should do their job and do
it now. If not, let's get them out of office.
As a SAP as soon as possible. So the political
lines have been drawn. And I'll say, listen, I know
some of you, some of you are going to pick
up the phone or go to your email and send
messages to Rod Bray. Listen to me. And I know
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this is only for a fringe, a fringe, a couple
of people. But this doesn't need to be vitriolic. This
but we need to hold these folks accountable too. Doesn't
mean you can't be to the point. It doesn't mean
that you can't voice your anger, frustration, just your desire
to see transparency in your government over this important topic.
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Doesn't mean that they you know, you can't just state it,
you know, state it clearly. That's fine. But this doesn't
need to be you know, we don't need heat mail
or anything like that. That's important to me. I voiced
my displeasure. I voiced my displeasure with Rod. He's welcome
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to come on this program. He hasn't responded. He hasn't responded.
More importantly, forget about me. He hasn't responded to you.
He hasn't sent a statement. There you go, we don't
have the votes. Let's move on. No, that's not the
way that this is going to work, Rod, and I
think you're about to find that out now that Trump
has entered the mix. You're better. You better rethink this strategy.
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You better rethink this strategy. I would highly recommend that
you call the session, let us see, let us see
be on record. If you think it's a bad idea, fine,
explain why it is, Explain why it is. I'm going
to tell you why I think it's absolutely necessary and
making sure we save our constitutional republic. And I'm not
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elected by the people. If I can do it, why
can't you do it? Rod? You can do it here.
You can you don't have to. You can ignore me forever,
but you can do it. And more than just a
simple statement saying we don't have the votes, how do
you know. You haven't called the session, you haven't had
the debate, you haven't drawn the specific maps. So far
as I know, what are you against. You don't have
(31:21):
the votes for what There's nothing that exists yet. The
special session is designed to specify what that is. And
then you can go from there and tell us if
it's wrong. Just tell us if it's wrong, tell us something,
tell us something, show leadership. This is completely, completely inexcusable
for this position in the UI or for shut me
(31:43):
in the State Senate. Absolutely inexcusable, honestly not worthy of
the position based upon this and this alone. Friends, I
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So I'm gonna list next segment we're going to go
through and we're gonna say, we're going to talk about
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what's at stake here. We're going to talk about why
this specifically, why redistricting is important, why it needs to
be done, and I'm gonna do that. I'm going to
do that specifically, which is more than we've gotten from
the Senate here, more than we've gotten from Rod Bray.
I'm not just going to say I think we have
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the votes or we don't. I'm going to tell you
why I think it's a good idea and why I
think it needs to be pursued quick time. Out though,
got to take a break with my friends back here
in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. You know
that some politicians, as we've discussed so far this program,
(34:12):
are stuck in the nineteen fifties, thinking of this as
nineteen fifties politics, nineteen sixties, seventies, eighties politics, while some
of us are focused on saving this constitutional republic, understanding
the dire straits that it is in, and understanding why
they're in. We are in those dire straits. So I'm
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going to continue this conversation talking here specifically about the
Indiana State Senate's announcement that they're not going to be
considering redistricting here in the state. And I'll get to that,
my friends in a moment. I'm going to tell you
why I think they absolutely should, and listen. I challenge
Rod Bray or any other Republican senator who's against this,
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who doesn't want to go on record they want to
stay in the Murca middle. I encourage you to tell
me why I'm wrong. You can come on this program,
you can just post it. You don't have to acknowledge me.
I'm irrelevant here. What's relevant is what you announce to
the people that you represent in this state. That's what's relevant.
And the answers that you've given thus far are pathetic.
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And this may sound a little heavy handed to some people,
and I don't really care. I'm not in the mood
to really matter. It just doesn't matter to me. It
doesn't matter to me. This is I think an abdicate,
abdication of duty and responsibility by Rod Bray and others.
I don't know how to make this anymore. I am
disgusted by this, if I'm being quite honest. So but
(35:43):
they can tell you. Tell them, tell them, tell the
people why I'm wrong, tell them, tell them. Don't just
hide behind it. Say we're not going to vote on it.
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suddenly decided they wanted to become leftists or liberal Democrats.
Probably not leftists, maybe some of them, but they realize,
(37:07):
you know what, it's easier to go along than and
get along that it is to fight and stand on principle.
The media can be mean to me and all this
kind of stuff. And the other is, well, the first
is that they weren't principal enough to begin with. The
second is maybe they're principal, but they're just not tough enough.
And Trump came on the scene. Trump was tough enough.
And if you think about what we've accomplished because of
(37:29):
Donald Trump. And I know he's not a perfect conservative.
I've never suggested that he was, but I would say
the top five hundred things that need to be addressed,
Trump aligns with conservative thought on and so that's always
I've never understood the never trumpers. I've been through this.
I don't want to go through that today. But let
me say this. Let me say this. We are in
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the midst of an ideological battle that is nothing like
what we've experienced, at least in recent times. Recent years.
We aren't just disagreeing about preferred tax rates and things
around the edges. We have people who absolutely hate this
country has founded. It's preposterous. I've been through this. They
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hate this country has founded. They want to remake this nation.
It is something different. They want to pack the US
Supreme Court with liberal justices so that they can override
the concurrent court. That is a course comprised of five
or maybe six people who care about the Constitution. What's
at stake here is abortion on demand. What's at stake
(38:34):
here is gender surgery on minors. These are not moderate positions.
And by the way, what's the compromise on this. What
are the compromise on some of these issues? Marxist style
ideological system. Think about Zoran Mamdani. That is who a
lot of these elected officials are, who they agree with,
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what they would like to see done in our nation,
in your cities, that's what they would like to see done.
My friends, it is a dangerous thing and we're gonna
witness New York come crashing to the ground here. I
hate to say it, I do. It's a fantastic city.
They're going to destroy it. And you know what, even
worse so, they will destroy this country if they were
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given the power to do so. Open borders. Think about
the crime, the drugs, the sex trafficking, all of that,
All of that was allowed to happen. Let this sink in.
All of that was allowed to happen for decades because
of weak politicians. You can say the Democrats wanted it,
but you could also say the Republicans didn't stop it
until a guy named Donald Trump stepped onto the scene
(39:39):
and showed the Republicans how to do it. Folks were
talking about collectivism, massive spending, spending that we will never
recover from. These things are all hanging in the balance
and a weaponization of the government which is coming, which
is absolutely coming, if we don't do something to stop it.
That's what's at stake here. That is what what is
(40:00):
at stake here. There is nothing that says one district
should be Republican or Democrat. Candidates have to win whatever
these districts are drawn to. These districts can be redrawn
and the people can vote. You can debate this. You
can have this done and open rod, not just in secret.
Indiana Senate Republicans have this debate. If the argument doesn't
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support it, if the people don't support it, then you
can vote against it. Do not run from it. That's
not leadership. What you're doing right now is not leadership.
It is candidly pathetic, pathetic. Why can't you do even
if you disagree with me, do what I just did,
share your thoughts. Don't be cowardly. I gotta go SDG
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