November 10, 2025 • 40 mins
Government shutdown, Senate deal, filibuster—what actually happened? Today I walk through the 60–40 procedural vote where eight Democrats joined 52 Republicans, why Rand Paul broke ranks, and how a “clean CR” differs from this compromise. We unpack what’s funded through September versus January, the guaranteed December vote on ACA subsidies, and why the Left’s outrage at Chuck Schumer misses the point. If you’ve heard the chants about “what democracy looks like,” let’s test that claim against reality—with clarity, not chaos. Conservative, not bitter, we cut through the noise and explain how the House, the filibuster, and appropriations really work—and what might happen next.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
My friends, I have a question for all those screaming
leftists out there?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Is this what democracy looks like?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm wondering if it is, because, from my vanished point,
when you have people sitting US Senators reach an agreement,
something that's negotiated between them, problems exist. Though I certainly acknowledge,
is that this what democracy looks like?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I've listened to the left chant and scream.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
For a long time now saying that this is not
what democracy looks like when Trump's in the White House
or anything else. But isn't this what it looks like?
Isn't this what democracy looks like? I'm waiting to hear
from the left on that. I want to talk about
what appears to be possibly the end of the longest
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government shut down in US history. What are we on
day number thirty one. Today's the tenth, so the forty
first day today on Monday the Senate, eight Democratic senators
joined fifty two Republicans to at least in debate, and
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appears to be moving towards us getting something potentially passed
by the House. It's got to be, of course, we'll
go through all this identical legislation. So it appears that
this shutdown might be coming to an end, my friends,
and we'll get into that today. We've talked a lot
about this over the course of the past. For what
is it, what I say, it was forty days, forty
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All right, So let's go through the facts today. This
is something that the left struggles with, the media struggles with,
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politicians in general struggle with. So the US Senate has
advanced a bipartisan bipartisan by the way this listen, We're
told that bipartisanship is the pinnacle of existence. We're told
that being bipartisan is the greatest thing that we could
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do as human beings, work together, reach across the aisle.
That's what was done here. Although I'll tell you I
got this over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I'm gonna pull this up.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
This isn't the stack of stuff, but I need to
make sure I look at the title of this because
I want to tell you what I got. The first
bit of notification I received whenever I got this information.
The headline here from the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
What did it say?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, the headline, I shouldn't say the first notification. This
is a newsletter written by one of their so called
make believe journalists over there, and the headline of the
email says, Democrats defect on the shutdown. That doesn't sound
like bipartisanship. Is this wonderful goal that we should all
be trying to reach towards? Now, Listen, I'm not here
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to bash bipartisanship. I think that there's a time that
we've got to find a way to accept realities and say, look,
there's things we have to do, and we have to
get the best that we can get in a particular situation.
I understand that there's time for negotiations, but bipartisanship in
and of itself is not some holy outcome. What if
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the other side that you're negotiating with is I mean
literally I know the left wants you to think that
Trump's a Nazi, but what if the other side literally
is a Nazi? Is it something that we should aspire
to find some sort of a middle ground with that?
I mean, this is the problem we have with the
often the debate when it comes to Israel and the
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two state solution and all that with Hamas and these
terrorists who seek the annihilation of Israel.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What's the middle ground there?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What's the point that we can negotiate with that we
allow for half the destruction of the nation of Israel.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I mean, this stuff is crazy. At some point.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Bipartisanship is sometimes necessary, but nuance and details matter.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Nuance and details matter.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But the left in the media doesn't seem very happy
with this. Again, as I've said in New York Times
here calls these eight Democrats who joined the fifty two
Republicans defectors. So they passed a procedural vote sixty to forty.
Now you will know, if you've listened to this program,
if you've followed politics for any length of time, that
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in the Senate, as a matter of just practical reality,
right now, the unless the filibuster does not apply, which
it does for virtually everything, with the exception of judicial nominees,
basically Supreme Court judicial nominees, you need sixty.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Votes to get anything done. You need sixty votes.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And basically, again, I don't want to beat a dead horse,
but I just want to make sure that it's clear
because there are people out there that do not understand this.
It's not in the Constitution that it requires three fifths
supermajority from the Senate to act. What it requires, what
the Senate has required, per its own rules, is that
in order to stop debate on a particular issue and
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allow it to have a vote on the floor of
the Senate, you have to have three fifths of the
Senate agreeing to end debate. And that is now used
as a tool, and it has been for some time.
It's been used as a tool to throw a wrench
in the gears of what the party in power is
trying to do if they don't have sixty votes. And
it's not easy to get sixty votes in today's very
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part in very highly political just just this very tense
political world that we find ourselves in today. But there
were eight Democrats that joined the fifty two Republicans. Now
one Republican joined the forty eight Democrats, and I had
a list here of all their names, and it's not
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it didn't output in my final let me see if
I can.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Pull it up here.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
But the one Republican who joined the thirty nine Democrats
was Rand Paul.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So there's really three arguments here.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
There's the argument being made, the argument being made by Republicans,
which is simply, let's reopen the government and then let's
negotiate or have talks about how to handle these other
long term issues. Let's open the government for a period
of time, and then let's talk about longer funding bills
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and have some debates and negotiations on the longer term
solution that was called the Queen cr That was what
was proposed and voted on, passed by the House of
Representatives back in September the nineteenth, i believe, and the
Republicans passed that through the House of Representatives. The Senate
because of the Democrats would not go along with this,
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and because of rand Paul Ran Paul, he's kind of
a third He's got a third argument here, which I'm
sympathetic to, by the way, But Democrats are Republicans say,
let's continue things exactly as they were September thirtieth, and
then let's negotiate all these other things we're disagreeing about.
We'll throw a deadline out there for six weeks, that
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was the initial discussion, and then we will have a
fight with the government open will negotiate during the government
being open. Democrats said, absolutely not. We're going to shut
everything down. We're going to say unless you extend these
Obama Care subsidies that were increased during COVID, which we'll
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get into all the weeds here. I just want to
explain what's going on so that you can understand, because
the people that you talk to, I'm telling you nine
out of ten of them don't have a clue of
what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
They will act like they do they think that they do.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because they've they've tuned into MSNBC or some such thing
and gotten the talking points, or listen to Chuck Schumer
or to some leftist politician, or candidly to some other
politician on the Republican side, and they don't know the facts.
The facts are is that Democrats were prepared to shut
the government down. In fact, they did shut the government
down over the Republicans refusing to negotiate over these extend
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the extension of the Obamacare health insurance subsidies that didn't
come into existence until COVID.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So that's the second position.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
The Democrats said, We're going to shut everybody's government down
unless we get Republicans to include this in the continuing resolution.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And then the third guy, third argument, that's just one guy.
It's Rand Paul. His position.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
He didn't side with the Democrats. He sided with them
with their vote. But his position is, look, government is
way out of control with its spending. No matter what
we do, we refuse to accept the larger issue here
that we have a spending problem. I don't think that
the current levels of spending are sustainable. In fact, I
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don't think they are. I know they're not, and so
why would I vote for a piece of legislation, a
continuing resolution that continues to fund government at unsustainable levels.
That's Rand Paul's position. I'm sympathetic to that. I think
he's right in the long term, but I think the
realities are that we have to get there through the
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proposed solutions that Republicans have made thus far, or maybe
through this. It looks like this is the path right
now if the government shut down is to actually come
to an end.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
So that's where we are with all of this. I
told you that I was going to let me see
if I can find.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
This, get the list of the Democrats who actually voted
for this. The eight Democrats. Democrats are infuriated by this.
The left is just spitting mad today at Chuck Schumer,
at these eight Democrats.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
As I'm trying to find I had the list.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Of my my fingertips here a little bit earlier, and
I am skimming to see if I can.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Find it here. It is here, it is. I knew
I had it all right.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
The eight Democrats who joined the fifty two Republicans. One
Republican I told you, Rand Paul joined the thirty nine
Democrats for the forty votes against against this solution. The
sixty votes in favor were fifty two Republicans. That's every
Republican except Rand Paul in the US Senate. And then
these eight Democrat Senators Catherine Cortes Mastow from Nevada, Dick
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Durban from Illinois, John Fetterman Pennsylvania, Maggie Hassan New Hampshire,
Tim Kaine Virginia, Angus King who's technically an independent, but
he caucuses with the Democrats. He's from Maine, Jackie Rosen
from Nevada, Jean Shaheen from New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That's how we got this negotiated settlement.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But the left is infuriated about this, My friend, I
mean spitting mad, spitting mad.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
About this again.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We'll go through this and break all of this down.
So what is what is the actual settlement? Let's go
through this. So there are twelve separate appropriations bills that
are needed each year in theory to operate our government.
There's twelve groupings, twelve twelve budgets, if you will, twelve
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different categories general overarching categories that we fund to keep
things going.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm going to read what these are so and I'm
going to.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Tell you that the first three of these, the first
three of these appropriations bills have been according to this
agreement through the Senate. Three of these have been funded
through the end of our fiscal year. If you don't know,
our fiscal year in this country runs from October first
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until September thirtieth, So when they say it's funded for
the full year, it's not twelve calendar months. We're funding
the something through September of twenty twenty six. And so
these three areas have been funded according to the Senate
negotiated settlement here to reopen the government. These have been
opened or funded all the way through September. And I
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want you to listen to the last one in particular,
it's interesting to me. Here we go Agriculture, Rural Development,
Food and Drug Administration, it's called ag FDA. That's kind
of the short acronym for this. That's fully funded through
September thirtieth through this negotiated settlement. Military Construction and Veterans
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Affairs that's called mil con VA. That's fully funded through
September thirtieth. That boosts VA medical care, base, housing and
construction projects. And then the third one, the third one
that they could agree upon, I tell you what, it's
something else. But here we go Legislative branch. That's of
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course their own branch, fully funded through September thirtieth. Covers
congressional operations and staff. We'll look at that. They can
get their own people paid, but they had a really
hard time getting other people paid. Now through these other
other categories or areas of our overall.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Budget, I'm going to go quickly through these other nine.
These other nine are going to be funded through January thirtieth.
So if this passes the House, which is now going
to go to the House, and there's going to be
a fight here, prepare further to be weeping and screaming
and all that sort of stuff from the left, from
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the media. But if it passes, the other nine areas
will only be funded through January thirty. So we're going
to have a short window.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We're going to have about two months or two and
a half months to negotiate all these other things that
have been well that are out there that people are
going to fight about before they come to final agreements
or there will be another potential government shut down at.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
The end of January.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So let's go through those nine areas that are only
funded through January per this negotiated agreement in the US
Senate sit with me. I know this is in the
weeds a little bit, but it matters as far as
our understanding of what's going on.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
So here we go. Defense spending.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It will be temporarily funded through January thirtieth. That of
course covers Pentagon on operations, Commerce, Justice, and Science. This
is referred to as CJS. That is funded through January thirtieth.
This covers Department of Justice, FBI, NASA in Noah, things
like that, Energy and water development that will be funded
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through January thirtieth covers Department of Education, Army of Army,
Corps of Engineers, Nuclear programs, financial services, and government general government.
I should say again all these funded through January thirtieth
covers Treasury, IRS, SEC, regulatory agencies and so forth. Homeland
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Security funded through only January thirtieth, covers Border security, FEMA, TSA,
Coast Guard, Interior and Environment. Again covered funding would be
covered through January thirtieth. This covers borders. Excuse me, EPA,
National Parks, and tribal programs. Labor, health and Human services,
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and education this is called Labor HHS and ED. Temporary
funding through January thirtieth cover schools, CDC, public health programs.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Just two more here hanging with me.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
State and foreign operations this is called State Foreign ops
funded through January thirtieth cover State Department embassies, foreign aid,
and last but not least, transportation and Housing and urban development.
This is called THUD, which of course HUD is housing
in urban development, Transportation. You attack that tee on the front.
You got THUD. Temporary funding through January thirtieth that covers highways,
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HUD and FAA. So so three of the twelve are
funded through September thirtieth. Three of the twelve areas of
overall government funding. The other nine are funded through septembery
excuse me, through January, and we have basically a clock
that's going to start ticking again here to get this,
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you know, to see what happens moving forward. So deep
breath here. As we've gone through a little bit of
the weeds, we'll get out of the weeds and we'll
get into some of the specifics what happens next, Why
there's so much anger at Chuck Schumer, what's going on
here politically, those sorts of things. As the program unfolds
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All right.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
So the agreement also requires also requires that there's a
guaranteed vote in December on whether or not to extend
expanded ACA that's Obamacare subsidies. It also provides back pay
we knew this was coming, and reinstatement for furloughed workers,
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and prohibits new layoffs. It prohibits any new layoffs between
now and January thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
This is that's fair. I think that this part is fair.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Obviously, you want people to get paid and no new
layoffs until January thirtieth. Okay, they've bought a little time
there the government.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
The lovers of big government want to make sure the
government doesn't get reduced. But I think it's a fair.
It's a fair thing to request here because these things
are all on the docket and Republicans have to find
a way to deal with it, but they don't have
to deal with it right now. They don't have to
deal with it this very second. Of course, remember Republicans
position was very simple, Let's continue, Let's continue funding the
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government at levels we were funding it on September thirtieth,
and let's just continue that until a deadline again where
we could negotiate these other issues that have those figured
out by So this is a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
This is not a clean CR.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's not super complicated, but there is new funding. I mean,
when you pass those budgets, that's the three that were passed,
there were changes to the funding as to what they
were previously. So there are technically increases to the budget
there and a couple of other negotiated things. Government's going
to reopen once the House, if the House passes this
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and then the President signs it, so this could happen
fairly quickly.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
We will see. Again, it's not a clean CR.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Clean CR just for the record, as I've gone through this,
a lot means that nothing new was added to the legislation.
A clean CR meant we just continued what we were
already doing. We have three budgets that change the ones
that were passed through through the end of the year.
I think the nine budgets are going to stay the
same through January thirtieth, so that part is technically clean.
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But these other requirements for a vote in December on
expanding the ACA subsidies, that also makes us not a
clean CR. But this is what they negotiated, so I
went through the Senate vote. Democrats are angry with Chuck Schumer.
I'll get to all that. I'll get to all that
after the break. We'll talk about what happens next. I
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do want to talk about these ACA subsidies as well,
because there's some misunderstanding on that. A lot of moving
parts here, my friends. But the short of it is,
the short of it is it appears, is that the
government appears that the government is going to be reopening
here in a few days, which is a good thing,
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provided again, it doesn't grow in order to reopen. Now
you could say it has a little bit with these
these these bills that were past the funding through January.
She sued me through September. But this might be the
best that we can get. The clean CR was still
the best way to go, but that's not going to happen.
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That's not going to happen because the Democrats are throwing
timper transfrums and candidly they're not asking for a whole
lot here. So we'll see where this goes. I'll break
this down in more detail after the break, but I've
got to take a time out.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
My friends.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You're listening here to conservative not better talk. I'm your host,
Tod Huff Back in just a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Welcome back, my friends.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Democrats are angry, furious in fact, that Chuck Schumer, who
I'm not a fan of, but I don't know what
they expected Chuck Schumer to do here. Again, I listened
to the left scream and chant and tell us that
we have kings and we shouldn't. We shouldn't have kings,
by the way, But they come up with some fantasy
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that says America has kings and Trump is trying to
become a king and all this sort of stuff. They
chat this is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
They have eight senators that join the Republicans to find
a settlement to end the government shutdown. This is what
democracy would look like. We don't have a democracy, I'd understand.
Don't pigeonhole me here. I'm just using their own language
to point out the hypocrisy and the sillyness of this
entire thing.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
This is what democracy looks like to those well for
those on the left, pay attention here. This is what
it means. So they're mad at Chuck Schumer. They wanted
leverage to again extend the ACA subsidies to make sure
that those were guaranteed. And Schumer, yeah, everything says Schumer
allowed the vote. I mean, he allowed the vote. What
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is he supposed to do? I mean, this is this
is something.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Again, I don't He's not going to be effective at
blocking it at this point. They had, they had the
votes to make sure that they could pull this off.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
So they're mad at Schumer. They just want to be
mad at somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
He just he couldn't stir up enough opposition to that.
People have had enough. People I read off the senators.
They're probably getting phone calls, They're probably getting a lot
of pressure. A lot of these senators are from places,
from states that they're not radically left. In fact, two
of these senators are from Nevadava is a state that
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has been moving more and more turning more and more red.
A lot of these elections. These Senate races have been
razor thin. They don't want to be on the record
here for much longer on this insanity. And that's a
good that's a good thing. So he's getting a lot
of pushback, a lot of criticism, which whatever, I'm no
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defender of Chuck Schumer, I don't really care. They're saying
he lost control of this, gave Republicans a win by
reopening without any healthcare guarantees that wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Chuck Schumer, by the way, voted no on this.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
He's not one of the eight who voted for this
particular settlement on the Democrat side.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
But nonetheless they're angry.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
With him for this, and of course some of them
went new leadership and whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's Listen, I've shared with you. None of this is
surprise to me, Chuck. It's interesting to me, you know,
Chuck Schumer. On my understanding of Chuck Schumer and where
I would place him on the political continuum is I'd
put him on the liberal side, even perhaps very liberal side.
The guy loves government and everything else, But I don't
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think he's a committed leftist. There certainly are committed leftists
in the US Senate, in the House of Representatives, We've
got people like aoc elon Omar, We've got people like
Bernie Sanders. We've got people on the extreme radical left
side of the continuum. I don't think Chuck Schumer is there.
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I don't think Nancy Pelosi is there. They're more practical,
they are more old school liberals than they are radicalized leftists.
There's a lot of newer people. Of course, Bernie Sanders
is now, but a lot of the newer blood in
the Democrat Party is further and further left.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
So Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Is a guy that's just you know, he likes his power,
he likes his position. He likes you know, talking about
a narrative that's just you know, completely made up, as
long as it keeps him in power personally, whether that
just simply means in the position as the Senate majority
when they're in the majority hopefully that doesn't happen again,
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or Senate minority leader. He's happy to have that position.
He's happy to have some authority in the Democrat Party.
He's happy to continue being a Senator from the state
of New York. He's happy for all that he's not
happy to be out of power. But look, I mean, listen,
a lot of these folks, for them, it's still you know,
they still got paid, they still get the seats of
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honor and the praise and the accolades in the circles
that they run in, and they're fine with that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
They're they're okay with that. But the radical base is not.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
The radical base wants these things to be you know,
they want new.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Entitlements in our government to be made permanent. So let's
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Let's talk about this ACA vote and what the left
was standing for, what they were trying to get accomplished here,
or what they wanted their base to think they were
trying to get accomplished in this shutdown. So the Affordable
Care Act, which is misnamed. You can call it Obamacare,
you can call it the Affordable Care Act, you can
call it, you know, the government takeover of healthcare, whatever
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you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The premium they have premium tax.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Credits that help people help American citizens buy insurance on
the healthcare exchanges. So that was initially part of this
massive bill that was forced upon the by the way,
by the way, they had to hurry, they had to hurry,
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if you remember, to pass the Affordable Care Act in
two thousand, when was that two thousand and ten, twenty eleven,
whichevery year that was. They had to rush because of
the Scott Brown victory, which gave Republicans forty one seats
in the Senate. They could have fillibustered stuff. So there
were some shenanigans to get the bill passed, and they
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had to create tax credits. Why do they have to
create tax credits? Well, you see, anytime the government takes
something over. I listened to Milton Friedman. Milton Friedman is
no longer with us, but a brilliant economist. Milton Friedman
says government makes things cost on average, twice as much
as it would if the private sector were in charge
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of it.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
He says that's a general rule of thumb.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Sometimes it's multiple times that, sometimes it's not quite two times,
but it's always more expensive when government runs it, for
a myriad of factors. But suffice it to say, suffice
it to say that that's typically the result of their
not being competition. So there's no competitive forces, there's nothing
to there's no force to keep prices down. There's no
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worse to encourage innovation in those things, and it's there's
lots of other reasons, but that's, in a nutshell, the problem.
And so the government had taken over a huge chunk
of health care with Obamacare, and they in order to
they hid the increase in cost. They basically said, we're
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going to help subsidize people to pay for their insurance.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And so that's how they did this.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's a wealth redistribution sort of scenario. Here a game
and listen, I'm not saying there's no problems in healthcare.
I'm not saying that it doesn't need to be discussed.
But the solution absolutely is not Obamacare. So they have
these premium these these subsidies that help people pay for
their premiums well. During twenty twenty one during COVID, Congress voted,
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the Democrat led Congress voted through the American Rescue Plan,
which again is misnamed, and they extended that in twenty
twenty two through the Inflation Reduction Act, which again is
also all these Democrat pieces of legislation are misnamed because
they don't do what they say they're going to do.
But nonetheless, these subsidies were expanded during COVID under the
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auspices that hey, we've got a financial disaster here because
we've had to shut down the economy because of COVID,
and so let's give people expanded subsidies. Democrats wanted to.
So there were initial subsidies with the passage of Obamacare,
there were increased subsidies, expanded subsidies after or during COVID,
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and they were extended through these so called Inflation Reduction
Act that went through twenty twenty five. Democrats wanted to
extend that. So this whole fight was thinking about this.
They could have had this fight by doing what Republicans recommended,
what Republicans proposed back on September nineteenth, and they refused.
We're almost two months down the road now. These subsidies
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I think are set to expire through at the end
of the year. And now they all they get now
as a guaranteed vote on this which is still going
to be subjected to the filibuster. So the chances of
this passing are very low. But they want to be
able to go back to their constituents, to their base
and say, see, I tried to get this done. The
writing here is kind of kind of on the wall.
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So but that's what this was about. And again there's
stuff on our website at the stack of stuff if
you want to read more about this and so forth.
But that's where I got to stop.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Here.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
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Speaker 3 (34:05):
Welcome back, my friends.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Third final segment of today's program, Going through the weeds
here a bit. I know it's a little bit different program,
but going through the weeds. I think this is important.
There's so much misinformation, there's so much emotion, there's so
much rage, there's so much screaming at the other or
from one side to the other. In fact, I encounter it, certainly,
(34:28):
I encounter it. I can remain conservative, not bitter. I
just I people screaming at me doesn't have any impact
on me whatsoever. It's just says a lot more about
them than it does about me. But listen, this is how,
this is how part of it is. We don't understand
what's going on. The American public doesn't understand how government works.
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They don't understand what government should be doing. They believe
the lies that their politicians tell them. Look, I certainly
have opinions. I try to be fair on this, So
I think I am fair on this, but listen, I
also want to persuade people to accept and receive truth.
And that means ultimately, first and foremost, that means accepting
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the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but just from a a
perspective of just living on this planet as a human being,
it also means that we accept the truth that we
have revealed to us, have had revealed to us, that
we've discovered or realized. And it's true that our system
of government is vastly superior to these governments that want
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to do everything for their people that ends badly every
single time that it's tried. And there's a lot of
reasons for that that I can't get into. But a
lot of this just comes from misunderstandings on a lot
of levels.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And there's tribal affiliations. Right.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We've got people who are Democrats through and through, Republicans
through and through, and no matter what a Democrat is saying,
Democrats will circle the wagons Republicans and do this as well.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I don't like that. I don't like that. I think
that there's some problems here. We'll talk about what happens next.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
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is leaving the Senate, you know, if you're taking a
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this particular point in time is that it has to
go back to the House of Representatives. The reason for
this is that legislation must pass both houses and it
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must be identical. The House passed the legislation that the
Senate refused to even have a vote on, So the
House now has to wait for the Senate to send
them this particular piece of legislation. At that time, the
House can decide if they're going to vote on this
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thing as is, or if there will be pressures to
amend this. If it's amended in any way, shape, manner,
or form, if you add a single punctuation mark, you're
going to have to send it back to the Senate,
which is going to create a whole other set of circumstances.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
So moderates, mainstream.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Republicans, they want the Senate to accept this bill as is.
Other conservatives might have a problem with this. They might
want stricter spending cuts. They might want problem or I
should say, they might want to address this in such
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a way where they can you know, address all the
spending at one time. That's kind of the deal here.
So if the House amends the Billy goes back to
the Senate, that will delay the reopening. However, if the
House passes this as is, it's going to go to
President Trump up for his signature and that would reopen
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most well most of our federal government's operations within within
a day or two. So that's where we are. I
think this is probably going to pass the House. Who knows,
who knows in today's world, but that seems to be
where the safe the safe bed is. But again, there's
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not much there's not much cushion in the House. There's
what is the it's two nineteen to two thirteen. I
think something needs two hundred and eighteen votes to pass
the House, So a couple of votes here and there,
and this whole thing could be derailed. Yet again, we
really are standing kind of on the on the precipice
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here on the just we don't have much room for deviation.
Republicans are going to have to probably push this through.
Maybe there will be some Democrats I don't know in
the House that will push this through. Now that now
that Senate Democrats there's been eight of them come on board.
There might be some, so this might pass with a
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little bit more cushion. But we will see. We will
see if people are going to have a problem with
the funding that is included in this piece of legislation,
if they realize that, hey, this might be the best
that we can actually come out with here, this is
what we're going to pass. We'll see.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I think it will pass. Time will tell, but this
is going to happen quickly, my friends. So look, I
know we were in the weed today.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
It's not always what I like to do, but I
think it's necessary. Hopefully you found it helpful as well.
You can always share your thoughts on what you think
should happen next. I'd love to hear them, but I
gotta go.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
My friends, I have a question for all those screaming
leftists out there?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Is this what democracy looks like?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm wondering if it is, because, from my vanished point,
when you have people sitting US Senators reach an agreement,
something that's negotiated between them, problems exist. Though I certainly acknowledge,
is that this what democracy looks like?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I've listened to the left chant and scream.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
For a long time now saying that this is not
what democracy looks like when Trump's in the White House
or anything else. But isn't this what it looks like?
Isn't this what democracy looks like? I'm waiting to hear
from the left on that. I want to talk about
what appears to be possibly the end of the longest
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government shut down in US history. What are we on
day number thirty one. Today's the tenth, so the forty
first day today on Monday the Senate, eight Democratic senators
joined fifty two Republicans to at least in debate, and
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appears to be moving towards us getting something potentially passed
by the House. It's got to be, of course, we'll
go through all this identical legislation. So it appears that
this shutdown might be coming to an end, my friends,
and we'll get into that today. We've talked a lot
about this over the course of the past. For what
is it, what I say, it was forty days, forty
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All right, So let's go through the facts today. This
is something that the left struggles with, the media struggles with,
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politicians in general struggle with. So the US Senate has
advanced a bipartisan bipartisan by the way this listen, We're
told that bipartisanship is the pinnacle of existence. We're told
that being bipartisan is the greatest thing that we could
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do as human beings, work together, reach across the aisle.
That's what was done here. Although I'll tell you I
got this over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I'm gonna pull this up.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
This isn't the stack of stuff, but I need to
make sure I look at the title of this because
I want to tell you what I got. The first
bit of notification I received whenever I got this information.
The headline here from the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
What did it say?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, the headline, I shouldn't say the first notification. This
is a newsletter written by one of their so called
make believe journalists over there, and the headline of the
email says, Democrats defect on the shutdown. That doesn't sound
like bipartisanship. Is this wonderful goal that we should all
be trying to reach towards? Now, Listen, I'm not here
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to bash bipartisanship. I think that there's a time that
we've got to find a way to accept realities and say, look,
there's things we have to do, and we have to
get the best that we can get in a particular situation.
I understand that there's time for negotiations, but bipartisanship in
and of itself is not some holy outcome. What if
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the other side that you're negotiating with is I mean
literally I know the left wants you to think that
Trump's a Nazi, but what if the other side literally
is a Nazi? Is it something that we should aspire
to find some sort of a middle ground with that?
I mean, this is the problem we have with the
often the debate when it comes to Israel and the
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two state solution and all that with Hamas and these
terrorists who seek the annihilation of Israel.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What's the middle ground there?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What's the point that we can negotiate with that we
allow for half the destruction of the nation of Israel.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I mean, this stuff is crazy. At some point.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Bipartisanship is sometimes necessary, but nuance and details matter.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Nuance and details matter.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But the left in the media doesn't seem very happy
with this. Again, as I've said in New York Times
here calls these eight Democrats who joined the fifty two
Republicans defectors. So they passed a procedural vote sixty to forty.
Now you will know, if you've listened to this program,
if you've followed politics for any length of time, that
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in the Senate, as a matter of just practical reality,
right now, the unless the filibuster does not apply, which
it does for virtually everything, with the exception of judicial nominees,
basically Supreme Court judicial nominees, you need sixty.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Votes to get anything done. You need sixty votes.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And basically, again, I don't want to beat a dead horse,
but I just want to make sure that it's clear
because there are people out there that do not understand this.
It's not in the Constitution that it requires three fifths
supermajority from the Senate to act. What it requires, what
the Senate has required, per its own rules, is that
in order to stop debate on a particular issue and
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allow it to have a vote on the floor of
the Senate, you have to have three fifths of the
Senate agreeing to end debate. And that is now used
as a tool, and it has been for some time.
It's been used as a tool to throw a wrench
in the gears of what the party in power is
trying to do if they don't have sixty votes. And
it's not easy to get sixty votes in today's very
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part in very highly political just just this very tense
political world that we find ourselves in today. But there
were eight Democrats that joined the fifty two Republicans. Now
one Republican joined the forty eight Democrats, and I had
a list here of all their names, and it's not
(07:21):
it didn't output in my final let me see if
I can.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Pull it up here.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
But the one Republican who joined the thirty nine Democrats
was Rand Paul.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So there's really three arguments here.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
There's the argument being made, the argument being made by Republicans,
which is simply, let's reopen the government and then let's
negotiate or have talks about how to handle these other
long term issues. Let's open the government for a period
of time, and then let's talk about longer funding bills
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and have some debates and negotiations on the longer term
solution that was called the Queen cr That was what
was proposed and voted on, passed by the House of
Representatives back in September the nineteenth, i believe, and the
Republicans passed that through the House of Representatives. The Senate
because of the Democrats would not go along with this,
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and because of rand Paul Ran Paul, he's kind of
a third He's got a third argument here, which I'm
sympathetic to, by the way, But Democrats are Republicans say,
let's continue things exactly as they were September thirtieth, and
then let's negotiate all these other things we're disagreeing about.
We'll throw a deadline out there for six weeks, that
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was the initial discussion, and then we will have a
fight with the government open will negotiate during the government
being open. Democrats said, absolutely not. We're going to shut
everything down. We're going to say unless you extend these
Obama Care subsidies that were increased during COVID, which we'll
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get into all the weeds here. I just want to
explain what's going on so that you can understand, because
the people that you talk to, I'm telling you nine
out of ten of them don't have a clue of
what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
They will act like they do they think that they do.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because they've they've tuned into MSNBC or some such thing
and gotten the talking points, or listen to Chuck Schumer
or to some leftist politician, or candidly to some other
politician on the Republican side, and they don't know the facts.
The facts are is that Democrats were prepared to shut
the government down. In fact, they did shut the government
down over the Republicans refusing to negotiate over these extend
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the extension of the Obamacare health insurance subsidies that didn't
come into existence until COVID.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So that's the second position.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
The Democrats said, We're going to shut everybody's government down
unless we get Republicans to include this in the continuing resolution.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And then the third guy, third argument, that's just one guy.
It's Rand Paul. His position.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
He didn't side with the Democrats. He sided with them
with their vote. But his position is, look, government is
way out of control with its spending. No matter what
we do, we refuse to accept the larger issue here
that we have a spending problem. I don't think that
the current levels of spending are sustainable. In fact, I
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don't think they are. I know they're not, and so
why would I vote for a piece of legislation, a
continuing resolution that continues to fund government at unsustainable levels.
That's Rand Paul's position. I'm sympathetic to that. I think
he's right in the long term, but I think the
realities are that we have to get there through the
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proposed solutions that Republicans have made thus far, or maybe
through this. It looks like this is the path right
now if the government shut down is to actually come
to an end.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
So that's where we are with all of this. I
told you that I was going to let me see
if I can find.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
This, get the list of the Democrats who actually voted
for this. The eight Democrats. Democrats are infuriated by this.
The left is just spitting mad today at Chuck Schumer,
at these eight Democrats.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
As I'm trying to find I had the list.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Of my my fingertips here a little bit earlier, and
I am skimming to see if I can.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Find it here. It is here, it is. I knew
I had it all right.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
The eight Democrats who joined the fifty two Republicans. One
Republican I told you, Rand Paul joined the thirty nine
Democrats for the forty votes against against this solution. The
sixty votes in favor were fifty two Republicans. That's every
Republican except Rand Paul in the US Senate. And then
these eight Democrat Senators Catherine Cortes Mastow from Nevada, Dick
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Durban from Illinois, John Fetterman Pennsylvania, Maggie Hassan New Hampshire,
Tim Kaine Virginia, Angus King who's technically an independent, but
he caucuses with the Democrats. He's from Maine, Jackie Rosen
from Nevada, Jean Shaheen from New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That's how we got this negotiated settlement.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But the left is infuriated about this, My friend, I
mean spitting mad, spitting mad.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
About this again.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We'll go through this and break all of this down.
So what is what is the actual settlement? Let's go
through this. So there are twelve separate appropriations bills that
are needed each year in theory to operate our government.
There's twelve groupings, twelve twelve budgets, if you will, twelve
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different categories general overarching categories that we fund to keep
things going.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm going to read what these are so and I'm
going to.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Tell you that the first three of these, the first
three of these appropriations bills have been according to this
agreement through the Senate. Three of these have been funded
through the end of our fiscal year. If you don't know,
our fiscal year in this country runs from October first
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until September thirtieth, So when they say it's funded for
the full year, it's not twelve calendar months. We're funding
the something through September of twenty twenty six. And so
these three areas have been funded according to the Senate
negotiated settlement here to reopen the government. These have been
opened or funded all the way through September. And I
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want you to listen to the last one in particular,
it's interesting to me. Here we go Agriculture, Rural Development,
Food and Drug Administration, it's called ag FDA. That's kind
of the short acronym for this. That's fully funded through
September thirtieth through this negotiated settlement. Military Construction and Veterans
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Affairs that's called mil con VA. That's fully funded through
September thirtieth. That boosts VA medical care, base, housing and
construction projects. And then the third one, the third one
that they could agree upon, I tell you what, it's
something else. But here we go Legislative branch. That's of
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course their own branch, fully funded through September thirtieth. Covers
congressional operations and staff. We'll look at that. They can
get their own people paid, but they had a really
hard time getting other people paid. Now through these other
other categories or areas of our overall.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Budget, I'm going to go quickly through these other nine.
These other nine are going to be funded through January thirtieth.
So if this passes the House, which is now going
to go to the House, and there's going to be
a fight here, prepare further to be weeping and screaming
and all that sort of stuff from the left, from
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the media. But if it passes, the other nine areas
will only be funded through January thirty. So we're going
to have a short window.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We're going to have about two months or two and
a half months to negotiate all these other things that
have been well that are out there that people are
going to fight about before they come to final agreements
or there will be another potential government shut down at.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
The end of January.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So let's go through those nine areas that are only
funded through January per this negotiated agreement in the US
Senate sit with me. I know this is in the
weeds a little bit, but it matters as far as
our understanding of what's going on.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
So here we go. Defense spending.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It will be temporarily funded through January thirtieth. That of
course covers Pentagon on operations, Commerce, Justice, and Science. This
is referred to as CJS. That is funded through January thirtieth.
This covers Department of Justice, FBI, NASA in Noah, things
like that, Energy and water development that will be funded
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through January thirtieth covers Department of Education, Army of Army,
Corps of Engineers, Nuclear programs, financial services, and government general government.
I should say again all these funded through January thirtieth
covers Treasury, IRS, SEC, regulatory agencies and so forth. Homeland
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Security funded through only January thirtieth, covers Border security, FEMA, TSA,
Coast Guard, Interior and Environment. Again covered funding would be
covered through January thirtieth. This covers borders. Excuse me, EPA,
National Parks, and tribal programs. Labor, health and Human services,
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and education this is called Labor HHS and ED. Temporary
funding through January thirtieth cover schools, CDC, public health programs.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Just two more here hanging with me.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
State and foreign operations this is called State Foreign ops
funded through January thirtieth cover State Department embassies, foreign aid,
and last but not least, transportation and Housing and urban development.
This is called THUD, which of course HUD is housing
in urban development, Transportation. You attack that tee on the front.
You got THUD. Temporary funding through January thirtieth that covers highways,
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HUD and FAA. So so three of the twelve are
funded through September thirtieth. Three of the twelve areas of
overall government funding. The other nine are funded through septembery
excuse me, through January, and we have basically a clock
that's going to start ticking again here to get this,
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you know, to see what happens moving forward. So deep
breath here. As we've gone through a little bit of
the weeds, we'll get out of the weeds and we'll
get into some of the specifics what happens next, Why
there's so much anger at Chuck Schumer, what's going on
here politically, those sorts of things. As the program unfolds
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Sorry about that got distracted there.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
So the agreement also requires also requires that there's a
guaranteed vote in December on whether or not to extend
expanded ACA that's Obamacare subsidies. It also provides back pay
we knew this was coming, and reinstatement for furloughed workers,
(19:48):
and prohibits new layoffs. It prohibits any new layoffs between
now and January thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
This is that's fair. I think that this part is fair.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Obviously, you want people to get paid and no new
layoffs until January thirtieth. Okay, they've bought a little time
there the government.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
The lovers of big government want to make sure the
government doesn't get reduced. But I think it's a fair.
It's a fair thing to request here because these things
are all on the docket and Republicans have to find
a way to deal with it, but they don't have
to deal with it right now. They don't have to
deal with it this very second. Of course, remember Republicans
position was very simple, Let's continue, Let's continue funding the
(20:29):
government at levels we were funding it on September thirtieth,
and let's just continue that until a deadline again where
we could negotiate these other issues that have those figured
out by So this is a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
This is not a clean CR.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's not super complicated, but there is new funding. I mean,
when you pass those budgets, that's the three that were passed,
there were changes to the funding as to what they
were previously. So there are technically increases to the budget
there and a couple of other negotiated things. Government's going
to reopen once the House, if the House passes this
(21:11):
and then the President signs it, so this could happen
fairly quickly.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
We will see. Again, it's not a clean CR.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Clean CR just for the record, as I've gone through this,
a lot means that nothing new was added to the legislation.
A clean CR meant we just continued what we were
already doing. We have three budgets that change the ones
that were passed through through the end of the year.
I think the nine budgets are going to stay the
same through January thirtieth, so that part is technically clean.
(21:41):
But these other requirements for a vote in December on
expanding the ACA subsidies, that also makes us not a
clean CR. But this is what they negotiated, so I
went through the Senate vote. Democrats are angry with Chuck Schumer.
I'll get to all that. I'll get to all that
after the break. We'll talk about what happens next. I
(22:04):
do want to talk about these ACA subsidies as well,
because there's some misunderstanding on that. A lot of moving
parts here, my friends. But the short of it is,
the short of it is it appears, is that the
government appears that the government is going to be reopening
here in a few days, which is a good thing,
(22:24):
provided again, it doesn't grow in order to reopen. Now
you could say it has a little bit with these
these these bills that were past the funding through January.
She sued me through September. But this might be the
best that we can get. The clean CR was still
the best way to go, but that's not going to happen.
(22:45):
That's not going to happen because the Democrats are throwing
timper transfrums and candidly they're not asking for a whole
lot here. So we'll see where this goes. I'll break
this down in more detail after the break, but I've
got to take a time out.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
My friends.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You're listening here to conservative not better talk. I'm your host,
Tod Huff Back in just a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Welcome back, my friends.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Democrats are angry, furious in fact, that Chuck Schumer, who
I'm not a fan of, but I don't know what
they expected Chuck Schumer to do here. Again, I listened
to the left scream and chant and tell us that
we have kings and we shouldn't. We shouldn't have kings,
by the way, But they come up with some fantasy
(23:26):
that says America has kings and Trump is trying to
become a king and all this sort of stuff. They
chat this is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
They have eight senators that join the Republicans to find
a settlement to end the government shutdown. This is what
democracy would look like. We don't have a democracy, I'd understand.
Don't pigeonhole me here. I'm just using their own language
to point out the hypocrisy and the sillyness of this
entire thing.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
This is what democracy looks like to those well for
those on the left, pay attention here. This is what
it means. So they're mad at Chuck Schumer. They wanted
leverage to again extend the ACA subsidies to make sure
that those were guaranteed. And Schumer, yeah, everything says Schumer
allowed the vote. I mean, he allowed the vote. What
(24:15):
is he supposed to do? I mean, this is this
is something.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Again, I don't He's not going to be effective at
blocking it at this point. They had, they had the
votes to make sure that they could pull this off.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
So they're mad at Schumer. They just want to be
mad at somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
He just he couldn't stir up enough opposition to that.
People have had enough. People I read off the senators.
They're probably getting phone calls, They're probably getting a lot
of pressure. A lot of these senators are from places,
from states that they're not radically left. In fact, two
of these senators are from Nevadava is a state that
(25:01):
has been moving more and more turning more and more red.
A lot of these elections. These Senate races have been
razor thin. They don't want to be on the record
here for much longer on this insanity. And that's a
good that's a good thing. So he's getting a lot
of pushback, a lot of criticism, which whatever, I'm no
(25:23):
defender of Chuck Schumer, I don't really care. They're saying
he lost control of this, gave Republicans a win by
reopening without any healthcare guarantees that wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Chuck Schumer, by the way, voted no on this.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
He's not one of the eight who voted for this
particular settlement on the Democrat side.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
But nonetheless they're angry.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
With him for this, and of course some of them
went new leadership and whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's Listen, I've shared with you. None of this is
surprise to me, Chuck. It's interesting to me, you know,
Chuck Schumer. On my understanding of Chuck Schumer and where
I would place him on the political continuum is I'd
put him on the liberal side, even perhaps very liberal side.
The guy loves government and everything else, But I don't
(26:19):
think he's a committed leftist. There certainly are committed leftists
in the US Senate, in the House of Representatives, We've
got people like aoc elon Omar, We've got people like
Bernie Sanders. We've got people on the extreme radical left
side of the continuum. I don't think Chuck Schumer is there.
(26:39):
I don't think Nancy Pelosi is there. They're more practical,
they are more old school liberals than they are radicalized leftists.
There's a lot of newer people. Of course, Bernie Sanders
is now, but a lot of the newer blood in
the Democrat Party is further and further left.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
So Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Is a guy that's just you know, he likes his power,
he likes his position. He likes you know, talking about
a narrative that's just you know, completely made up, as
long as it keeps him in power personally, whether that
just simply means in the position as the Senate majority
when they're in the majority hopefully that doesn't happen again,
(27:21):
or Senate minority leader. He's happy to have that position.
He's happy to have some authority in the Democrat Party.
He's happy to continue being a Senator from the state
of New York. He's happy for all that he's not
happy to be out of power. But look, I mean, listen,
a lot of these folks, for them, it's still you know,
they still got paid, they still get the seats of
(27:44):
honor and the praise and the accolades in the circles
that they run in, and they're fine with that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
They're they're okay with that. But the radical base is not.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
The radical base wants these things to be you know,
they want new.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Entitlements in our government to be made permanent. So let's
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Let's talk about this ACA vote and what the left
was standing for, what they were trying to get accomplished here,
or what they wanted their base to think they were
trying to get accomplished in this shutdown. So the Affordable
Care Act, which is misnamed. You can call it Obamacare,
you can call it the Affordable Care Act, you can
call it, you know, the government takeover of healthcare, whatever
(28:29):
you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The premium they have premium tax.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Credits that help people help American citizens buy insurance on
the healthcare exchanges. So that was initially part of this
massive bill that was forced upon the by the way,
by the way, they had to hurry, they had to hurry,
(28:53):
if you remember, to pass the Affordable Care Act in
two thousand, when was that two thousand and ten, twenty eleven,
whichevery year that was. They had to rush because of
the Scott Brown victory, which gave Republicans forty one seats
in the Senate. They could have fillibustered stuff. So there
were some shenanigans to get the bill passed, and they
(29:14):
had to create tax credits. Why do they have to
create tax credits? Well, you see, anytime the government takes
something over. I listened to Milton Friedman. Milton Friedman is
no longer with us, but a brilliant economist. Milton Friedman
says government makes things cost on average, twice as much
as it would if the private sector were in charge
(29:34):
of it.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
He says that's a general rule of thumb.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Sometimes it's multiple times that, sometimes it's not quite two times,
but it's always more expensive when government runs it, for
a myriad of factors. But suffice it to say, suffice
it to say that that's typically the result of their
not being competition. So there's no competitive forces, there's nothing
to there's no force to keep prices down. There's no
(30:00):
worse to encourage innovation in those things, and it's there's
lots of other reasons, but that's, in a nutshell, the problem.
And so the government had taken over a huge chunk
of health care with Obamacare, and they in order to
they hid the increase in cost. They basically said, we're
(30:23):
going to help subsidize people to pay for their insurance.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And so that's how they did this.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's a wealth redistribution sort of scenario. Here a game
and listen, I'm not saying there's no problems in healthcare.
I'm not saying that it doesn't need to be discussed.
But the solution absolutely is not Obamacare. So they have
these premium these these subsidies that help people pay for
their premiums well. During twenty twenty one during COVID, Congress voted,
(30:55):
the Democrat led Congress voted through the American Rescue Plan,
which again is misnamed, and they extended that in twenty
twenty two through the Inflation Reduction Act, which again is
also all these Democrat pieces of legislation are misnamed because
they don't do what they say they're going to do.
But nonetheless, these subsidies were expanded during COVID under the
(31:21):
auspices that hey, we've got a financial disaster here because
we've had to shut down the economy because of COVID,
and so let's give people expanded subsidies. Democrats wanted to.
So there were initial subsidies with the passage of Obamacare,
there were increased subsidies, expanded subsidies after or during COVID,
(31:43):
and they were extended through these so called Inflation Reduction
Act that went through twenty twenty five. Democrats wanted to
extend that. So this whole fight was thinking about this.
They could have had this fight by doing what Republicans recommended,
what Republicans proposed back on September nineteenth, and they refused.
We're almost two months down the road now. These subsidies
(32:06):
I think are set to expire through at the end
of the year. And now they all they get now
as a guaranteed vote on this which is still going
to be subjected to the filibuster. So the chances of
this passing are very low. But they want to be
able to go back to their constituents, to their base
and say, see, I tried to get this done. The
writing here is kind of kind of on the wall.
(32:29):
So but that's what this was about. And again there's
stuff on our website at the stack of stuff if
you want to read more about this and so forth.
But that's where I got to stop.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Here.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
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Speaker 3 (34:05):
Welcome back, my friends.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Third final segment of today's program, Going through the weeds
here a bit. I know it's a little bit different program,
but going through the weeds. I think this is important.
There's so much misinformation, there's so much emotion, there's so
much rage, there's so much screaming at the other or
from one side to the other. In fact, I encounter it, certainly,
(34:28):
I encounter it. I can remain conservative, not bitter. I
just I people screaming at me doesn't have any impact
on me whatsoever. It's just says a lot more about
them than it does about me. But listen, this is how,
this is how part of it is. We don't understand
what's going on. The American public doesn't understand how government works.
(34:51):
They don't understand what government should be doing. They believe
the lies that their politicians tell them. Look, I certainly
have opinions. I try to be fair on this, So
I think I am fair on this, but listen, I
also want to persuade people to accept and receive truth.
And that means ultimately, first and foremost, that means accepting
(35:12):
the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but just from a a
perspective of just living on this planet as a human being,
it also means that we accept the truth that we
have revealed to us, have had revealed to us, that
we've discovered or realized. And it's true that our system
of government is vastly superior to these governments that want
(35:34):
to do everything for their people that ends badly every
single time that it's tried. And there's a lot of
reasons for that that I can't get into. But a
lot of this just comes from misunderstandings on a lot
of levels.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And there's tribal affiliations. Right.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We've got people who are Democrats through and through, Republicans
through and through, and no matter what a Democrat is saying,
Democrats will circle the wagons Republicans and do this as well.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I don't like that. I don't like that. I think
that there's some problems here. We'll talk about what happens next.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
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your mission. Okay, what happens next here. Now that this
is leaving the Senate, you know, if you're taking a
government class, a civics class, whatever, that what happens at
this particular point in time is that it has to
go back to the House of Representatives. The reason for
this is that legislation must pass both houses and it
(37:37):
must be identical. The House passed the legislation that the
Senate refused to even have a vote on, So the
House now has to wait for the Senate to send
them this particular piece of legislation. At that time, the
House can decide if they're going to vote on this
(37:57):
thing as is, or if there will be pressures to
amend this. If it's amended in any way, shape, manner,
or form, if you add a single punctuation mark, you're
going to have to send it back to the Senate,
which is going to create a whole other set of circumstances.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
So moderates, mainstream.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Republicans, they want the Senate to accept this bill as is.
Other conservatives might have a problem with this. They might
want stricter spending cuts. They might want problem or I
should say, they might want to address this in such
(38:39):
a way where they can you know, address all the
spending at one time. That's kind of the deal here.
So if the House amends the Billy goes back to
the Senate, that will delay the reopening. However, if the
House passes this as is, it's going to go to
President Trump up for his signature and that would reopen
(39:05):
most well most of our federal government's operations within within
a day or two. So that's where we are. I
think this is probably going to pass the House. Who knows,
who knows in today's world, but that seems to be
where the safe the safe bed is. But again, there's
(39:25):
not much there's not much cushion in the House. There's
what is the it's two nineteen to two thirteen. I
think something needs two hundred and eighteen votes to pass
the House, So a couple of votes here and there,
and this whole thing could be derailed. Yet again, we
really are standing kind of on the on the precipice
(39:49):
here on the just we don't have much room for deviation.
Republicans are going to have to probably push this through.
Maybe there will be some Democrats I don't know in
the House that will push this through. Now that now
that Senate Democrats there's been eight of them come on board.
There might be some, so this might pass with a
(40:11):
little bit more cushion. But we will see. We will
see if people are going to have a problem with
the funding that is included in this piece of legislation,
if they realize that, hey, this might be the best
that we can actually come out with here, this is
what we're going to pass. We'll see.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I think it will pass. Time will tell, but this
is going to happen quickly, my friends. So look, I
know we were in the weed today.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
It's not always what I like to do, but I
think it's necessary. Hopefully you found it helpful as well.
You can always share your thoughts on what you think
should happen next. I'd love to hear them, but I
gotta go.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
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