October 27, 2025 • 40 mins
Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith joins Todd to unpack Indiana’s looming redistricting fight and why he says Hoosiers’ voice in Washington has been watered down. Beckwith explains the push for a special session, what fair maps should mean, and how national players and court fights factor in. They also hit the shift inside today’s Democrat Party, the 17th Amendment’s ripple effects on state power, and what listeners can do to move the needle with their state senators. Timely, candid, and focused on strategy, this conversation connects Indiana’s battle to a wider national map war—and what it could mean for 2026 and beyond.
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All right, my friends, I've told you for some time
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The main reason for this is that I've been reevaluating things.
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and so I think interviews are a way to do that.
And I've got a special guest here that I'll bring
on here and just a moment.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He's a friend of mine for a good while.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
He's now the Lieutenant Governor of the state of Indiana.
Micah beck With will be on here in just a moment.
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on here at a moment my friend Micah Beck with
Lieutenant Governor of the State of Indiana, Mike.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's a pleasure to have you on the program today.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
How are you, sir, Hey, Thanks I'm doing really well,
and thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
So you're doing great work and really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And you know, Mike and I just so those of
you listening, No, Mike and I met several years ago
through John Crane, who's a guest host on this program.
Former state senator here who's doing some great work as well.
We met several years ago. Micah has been a guest
host on this program. And Michael, I'm just curious off
the top here, how do you compare guest hosting on
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this program to being lieutenant governor? How what's the comparison there?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Sure job is way more fun.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
When I grow up, I definitely want to be you
some day.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So that's my uh that's my dream job. But uh no,
it's it's good. I enjoy being lieutenant governor too. It's uh,
it really is. In all seriousness, it's an honorable or
traveled the state already, just crisscrossing the state, meeting so
many amazing people.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
It gives you a lot of hope for.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
When you get out, like when you get outside of
the Indianapolis bubble and you actually get to see real
Hoosiers and get real you know, every day you know,
jobs and and they just have you know, their faith
and family and freedom focused people. I just I love it.
And I mean I'm heading down to uh, you know, Seymour,
Indiana right now. I'm in the car and we're going
down to Foss Tech and and uh you know, I
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think they they manufacture a U M O and and
guns and all kinds of cool stuff like that. And
I'm excited to learn more about you know, their job
and their their business. So it's just cool opportunities that
would you know, I would never otherwise had.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well let's and I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I appreciate you sharing that, And what you said kind
of resonates with me as we've traveled the country on
our truth tour.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's one of the things that hit me as well.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know, you get inside of these bubbles when you
talk about politics, or you're in the state capital, you're
at the you know, you're inside the in your situation,
the inter operations of government.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But you step outside and you realize there's a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Of people with a whole lot of sense and hard
work that make this country possible. So I commend you
for going around the state and meeting those folks and
hearing from them. So let's talk about what's happening here. Now,
we have listeners all over the country, and I always
make sure that they know I'm not here just to
talk about what's happening in Indiana. But what's happening in
Indiana is actually happening in a lot of places, or
could be happening in a lot of places. So let's
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talk about specifically redistricting here in the state of Indiana.
It sounds like, if I'm hearing things correctly, Mike Brawn
is about to make an announcement where there's going to
be a special session to where redistricting is going to
be considered in the legislature.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Is that correct, Micah?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yes, And and the governors has been an advocate for redistricting.
You know, he's obviously a great ally of President Trump,
and as am I, and you know, we love, we
love what President Trump is doing. And he's taught the
Republican Party how to fight again. And so I'm very
grateful for President Trump's leadership in this and what President
Trump is looking at he's looking pragmatically. Uh, you know,
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the Democrats have screwed us, the Republicans for many years
by gerrymandering and patting their numbers by counting illegal immigrants
and aliens, and and getting more congressional representation.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And and so the president rightfully.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So it called it out and said, you guys are
cheating in blue states while red states we like to
you know, live above approach and play the game as
the rules were written. And and then we're just getting screwed,
you know. And and the Democrats are going to the bank,
laughing all the way there. And and our representation in
states like Indiana, we have a weaker voice in Washington
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with our Republican reps because of states like California, Illinois,
the New England states, they've they've watered down our voice
as a state in Washington. So this is all about
our states' rights in Washington. That's what I keep saying.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
It's it.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And after the seventeenth Amendment Todd, which is one of
the worst amendments, probably the second worst ever, probably sixteenth
is the worst.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
But the seventeenth Amendment, we we.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Lost the ability to have state representation through the US Senate.
The legislature used to used to pick the US Senator
and that was how states would be represented. And so
we turned it into just another you know us House.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
It's just a lesser house essentially, just fewer.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Members, and and that was terrible. And so the only
way now states have a voice in Washington is through
the congressional maps. And so when other states cheat, then
it hurts states like Indiana. So President Trump, Governor Braun, myself,
we've all been calling for us for a long time.
The House, the Indiana House is good. I think we've
got the boats. There's these Republican senators that just don't
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see it. They don't see the world we live in.
They still live in the nineteen eighties, the nineteen nineties.
They want to They think the game is Ronald Reagan's
Republican Party versus Tip O'Neil's Democrat Party.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I'm sorry, that's not the world we live in. The
Democrats are Marxists.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
The radicals they have the It is not Tip O'Neil
Democrat Party anymore.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
We're to be dealing with it just a.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Radicalized, crazy Marxist Democrat Party, and the Republicans have to
wake up to that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm with Micah Beck with Indiana's Lieutenant Governor he's on
the road on his way to Seymour to a meeting there.
So if he does cut out on occasion, it's because
of the connection. But we've got a good one. But
it cut out briefly there, Micah for a moment. So
let's talk No, you're all good. You're all good, really
briefly here, Let's let's talk about that, because I think
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you've made a couple of really interesting and good points.
The first is, let's talk about what the modern Democrat
party has become. Because I was raised in a Union
Democrat home, but I would say that my family was
I don't know, blue dog Democrat, conservative Democrat, moderate Democrat,
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Reagan Democrats, something like that, which is there is literally
none of that in Washington, D C.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Today.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And so when we elect people in the state of
Indiana who are Democrats, even if they pretend to be moderate,
as they often do to get votes, when they go
to Washington, D C. The people they elect to lead
the party and the agenda that they basically are supporting
and endorsing is one not of John F. Kennedy's party
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back in the sixties. These are radicals, I mean, talk
a little bit about that. Micah what this fight is
really about. Ideologically.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, well, I said for a long time that JFK's
party was the party that fought against the communists. Now
his party wants to be the communists, and so he
would he would not be welcomed in his own party
right now.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
So people want to hold up you know, JFK. They
want to hold up Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They want to hold up you know, some of these
blue dog pro American Democrats, the tip o'neils of the day.
That's not the party anymore. To your point, Todd, it's
been radicalized. It's it's absolutely a.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Anti American party now.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
And while there are still some good Democrats in my
opinion that that like care for America, the majority of
the party leadership, not just in the state of Indiana
but also in the nation, they hate American values, They
hate American exceptionalism. They think America is fundamentally racist, that
it's rooted in all kinds of evil, and they don't
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believe in God. I mean, they made that very clear.
They kicked God out of their their party platform back
in two thousand, i think twenty twelve convention. And they
don't want anything to do with the fundamental truths of
the laws of nature and Nature's God that are Founders taught.
And so you can't have America without values that our
founders enshrined, that there is a creator, that he is
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the one who gives us our rights. The government is
only there to secure those rights. And the Democrats have
moved away from that, so far away from that that
you can't you know, what fellowship does light have with darkness.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I mean, that's really kind of where I'm at in
all of this.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
And so just Republicans and even blue dog Democrats now
remember Todd, The whole southern part of the Indian state
of Indiana for years, up until just a decade ago,
was hardcore blue dog Democrats. I mean, you couldn't win
a race if you're a Republican. And now look what's
happened is completely flipped. And the reason is not because
the people have changed, but because the Democrat Party has
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gone off.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
The cliff of stupid.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
They're pushing transgenderism and boys and girls sports, mutilation of
children's bodies, the abortion on demand, open borders, economic suicide policies.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I mean, it is just absolutely absurd.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And the people in places like southern Indiana blue dog
Democrats said that's a bruch too far. And as Reagan said,
I didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me.
And that's where we're at today.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
It is.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And so let's let's talk a minute, because I'll be
honest from my vanage point, when I first started, you know,
hearing about redistricting, I mean, I'm I'm still I have
half a foot half by toe, maybe in in the
old school politics where I do want to be fair
and reasonable, and but I also understand that this is
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a political process. Redistricting is up to the state legislature.
It is a political activity. If the voters don't like
what the state legislature has done, the voters can change
the state legislature. And so this is a political exercise
that is one hundred percent constitutional. And to your point
that you hit on earlier, the Democrats are fine doing
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it when it benefits them. But now suddenly they've come
out and said that they're against jerrymandering.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
They want a truce.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's like they had Wilt Chamberlain on their basketball team
before they know fixed all the rules to prevent Wilt
from doing what Wilt did to dominate, and once they
got the benefit of that, they don't want the Republicans
to see that. So it's definitely hypocritical. But I do
want you to walk us through what has to happen next.
So let's say Governor Braun calls this special session. Does
it sound like he's gonna do today? What happens next?
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And then there's opposition in the Senate, it sounds like,
I mean Rod Bray, who's a state senator, the Senate
pro tem here, he's our senator in my district, he's
saying that they don't have the votes. Is he still
saying that? Just walk me through what happens next? And
is this going to be a tense fight?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Do you think we're gonna get this done? What happens next?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Oh, it'll be a tense fight. Yeah, I mean it's
it's gonna be close. In the Senate.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's I think we have the votes. If people have
to put their name on the board right like I
think right now, and close groom meetings and kind of
private polling and whipping the vote, I think, uh, we
don't have the votes. But that's only because everyone can
say it privately. And I think you know, the majority
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of the senator is probably in the Senate on the
Republican side, would.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Rather not have to vote on this.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So I think they they're trying to push the governor
to not call the session. Well that's not gonna happen.
The Governor's gonna call the session. And rightfully so. And
so when that, when that push comes to shove, I think,
I think we'll get it through. But it's gonna have
to go through a committee. You're gonna have to see.
There's gonna have to be maps that are created. You know,
we're we are this. We got to create our own maps.
So it's not it's not Washington, you know, drawing the
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lines and so that, and and I was on the
phone with a senator last night and and he said,
I'm in for it, but I'm only in if the
maps are good, right, Like, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna vote on something that I have not actually seen.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
And I think that's completely.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Fair, very reasonable, And yeah, absolutely so. So I think
there's you're gonna have to see the maps, right, Okay,
Like if it's a crappy map, then yeah, don't vote
for it. And you know, we're we're not gonna. We're
not gonna, you know, go into this say well, I'm
all in and no matter what happens, like no, be
wise about it. But but I do think they have
to understand what is happening here. Most Senators that are
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against it, they don't understand that this is a national conversation.
This is Indiana's voice has been warped and watered down
in Washington. And if you care about Indiana's voice, Senators,
then you need to stand up and kick back against
states like.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Illinois, California, New England states.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And I think it's pretty telling when AOC is running
ads in California for redistricting, King Jeffries is going to
Illinois campaigning for redistricting.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
It's really rich.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
When the Democrats of Indiana say, we as a Democrat
party are against this, It's like no, your whole leadership
on a national level is for it in certain states.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
So and President Trump's for it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Micah beck With this for I put out on a
tweet the other day I said, if AOC, Keem Jeffries,
Donald Trump, and Micah beck With are all agreeing on something,
this is the most bipar that we've ever had in
our nation. So so so anyway, that's where I Yeah, that's
where I stand.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So let's I mean, the best argument of people who
are against this or or what that this is just
simply not the way it's typically done. That this is
uh that there's a political acts to grind. I mean,
what what's as objectively as you can what's what is
the hesitation or the opposition to this? How would you
characterize that as fairly as you can?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, I think you gotta remember we got a lot
of senators who are older, right, so they've you know,
there's one senator who's been in office since I.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Was eleven years old, you know, Senator Jim Bug you know,
far too long in my opinion. But that's another issue.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
The and and they say things like, well, we've never
done it this way. This is you know, we don't
we don't do this in the Senate. We're the Senate,
you know, we are esteemed people.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You know, we are the high class, you know, elite.
And I'm like, guys like learn to understand the times.
What we need. We need people with.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
The spirit of the Sons of Issacar that the Bible
talks about that could interpret the times and apply biblical
wisdom to strategy to deal with the problems of the times.
And I feel like what happens in places like the
Indiana Senate is these people live in the glory days
of the nineteen nineties, when you know, it was probably
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a little bit more of a peaceful time because you
didn't have a radicalized Democrat party. You had a Democrat
party to what we were talking about earlier that was
a lot more pro American blue dog.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
They were union workers.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
They didn't believe in the social nonsense crap like you know,
boys and girls sports.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
But that's unfortunately those days are over. I would love
to go back to that.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And honestly I've said too, I would be against redistricting
if I could trust that states like California, Illinois, New England,
you know, the New England area, that they would be
playing fair. And people have asked me this, what's the
outcome of this? If we do it and then the
Democrats are going to do it hard, and then we
come back and do it harder than the Democrats, and
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all of these things just keep we just keep one
up in each other.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
That's not good, right, I say, well, no, it's not good.
But here's what it will do.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
It will force the Supreme Court to get involved and
make it fair across the board, because the Supreme Court
really hasn't.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Done its job in my opinion on.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
This, and so I think the Supreme Court is going
to have to come in and say, Okay, all these
states that are trying to one up each other all
the time with the three districting stuff, here.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Are the rules.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Everybody's going to play by these.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Rules, and that's it. And I think that's what we need.
We need fair rules.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
It gets true, I hear your point.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
The problem is, like we all can say when we
see some of these Gerrymander districts, like there's one in
Illinois that literally connects as many cities as it's as
it can to remain blue. It's this real skinny line
that jogs across the state or whatever. Indiana doesn't really have.
I mean, if you look at the shapes of Indiana's district,
they're I mean they're not like drawn you could tell
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really specifically to try to do something like that. So
everybody knows that gerrymander district, mikel when they see it.
The problem is, what's what's a fair shape?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I mean, these districts are supposed to be proportionally this
remotely close to being the same, because each representative has
to represent roughly the same number of people. I mean,
it just gets really difficult, and it's it is constitutionally
the job of the state legislators. I have a hard
time even deciding what is fair, other than to say,
I know what, it's clearly unfair when I look at it.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I don't know when that line.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Becomes objectively fair. To your point, I just it's I
think it's a political process and that the legislature needs
to be held accountable to the voters as to what
they've done.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And I don't know what else can be I mean,
maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You seem to think the Supreme Court can rule what's
What's something you think could be added here that would
make it I guess fairer from objectively.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So what's happening in Louisiana right now with the Supreme
Court case that would deal with the Voting Rights Act?
I mean, if the Supreme Court gets rid of that,
which they should, it's incredibly unfair to have complete districts
drawn because of somebody's skin color.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Not fair shouldn't be there. If we get rid of that,
it makes it a whole.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Lot easier to draw fair districts that are literally based
on the population.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
That's really what a sense is. Just just tell me
how many people are here.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Right, I don't care what color they are, I don't
care like what they do for a living, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Just tell me the number.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
And by the way, it's legal here, yes, yeah, legally here.
You're not caught. You're not You're not counting illegals. Illegals
have no constitutional rights. They and I've said this before,
they're they do not get to just step foot on
our soil and now claim all kinds of privileges because
they've broke into our country illegally.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
We do.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
That's not the founders into it, that the Constitution does
not apply to them. We have we have Geneva Convention laws,
we have we have humanitarian laws that we we abide
by because we want to be good humans, and we
treat them for respectfully, with dignity from that perspective. But
you're not coming here, and just because my feet are
on the soil, I get all all of a sudden,
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I get to be counted in the census, and I
get somehow privileges that are afforded to citizens. No, no, no,
absolutely not. And so so I think if you if
you take those two things away voting rights acting you
don't it's not about the color of the skin and uh,
and you're not allowed to count illegals period, then it
becomes very easy to make all these districts fair based
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on population.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, we agree, then with Micah Beck with here, Lieutenant
governor of the state of Indiana, let's talk really quickly,
and Mike, I don't know if you've got any more time.
I'm getting near the end of this segment. If you
can stick around on maybe ten more minutes after the break.
If you can't, that's fine. But there's just obviously this
leads to lots of other discussions. I want to paint
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a picture. I want you to help paint a picture
about what Washington, d C. Will look like in after
the twenty twenty six midterms if Democrats win this because
it's it's not gonna be legislating, It's not gonna it
is gonna be I mean, what impeachments, investigations. I mean,
it is gonna be a complete side show and it's
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it's political theater. It's you talk about abdicating responsibility for
actual governance and legislating.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I mean, paint that picture I got about ninety second
before I have to get to break the paint the
picture there of what this looks like.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
It'll be a complete clown show, dumpster fire, this is
It's gonna be a get Trump on steroids.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
If you thought the first term.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And impeachment after impeachment was bad, they're gonna do it again.
We all know it's all witch hunt. President Trump has
not in any way, shape or form, done anything that
rises to the level of impeachment, but.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
They will try to do that. They will, they will.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
It will just be made up scandals after made up
scandals if the Democrats get back in control. I'm thankful
that we have Republican majorities, just slim majorities in both
chambers in Washington.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
But it's uh, it's allowed us to be able to
keep our eye on the ball.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I mean, we've got great foreign policy happening, We've got
great domestic policy happening. If we don't win and we
lose the chambers, Washington is just going to be a
witch hunt on steroids, and we can't we can't afford that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
A lot is hanging in the balance for sure. And
I'll tell you what's interesting to me is, and I've
shared this on this show, these conversations, and you're gonna
have to hold your comments, Mike, because I gotta get
to break. But these conversations about redistricting and so forth,
they happen on a regular basis. What's different is Trump
has made these things transparent. He's He's basically said, hey,
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I'm calling up governors. We need these seats because we're
in one heck of a political fight. We're in a
fight for the survival of this constitutional republic.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
A lot is at stake.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I have to take a break, though, Micah back with,
Lieutenant Governor Indiana's on the phone with me.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
He'll stick around, Mikey, you can stick around next segment.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Yeah, that'd be great, awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Sit tight, my friends, you're listening to conservative not better
talk on your host Todd huff Back in just a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Welcome back, my friends.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
On the phone here with Lieutenant Governor the State of Indiana,
Micah beckwith Before we get back to that conversation, friends,
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great State of Indiana again. Now, if you're listening in
a state that's not Indiana, hang with us, because there's
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a chance that this very thing is happening in your state.
It's happened in Texas, it's happening in North Carolina, it's
happened in Missouri, California, I've seen Virginia, Colorado are now
considering it as well. Those are blue states. But Micah,
during the break, you told me that you got a notification.
I'll let you go ahead and share with our audience
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what that notification is.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, thanks Todd. The governor just called the special session.
So it's officially been called, and it's going to be
November three, and so we're going to be coming up here.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
What is that Monday, right, Yeah, week from today.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
So yeah, it's gonna be exciting. I was talking to
my friend, the lieutenant governor who is also presides over
the Senate out in miss Uri, the lieutenant governor of Missouri,
and he he was telling they just did this, and
he said it was more contentious and hotter as of
a special session for them than even the abortion special
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session in debate.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Was back a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
So you know, I think, buckle up, it's gonna be uh,
it's gonna be a battle.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
But I'm I'm you know, I'm your huckleberry. I'm ready
for that. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
No you've run into and we can briefly touch on that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I want to get back to redistricting, but that's one
of the things I wanted to ask you about, is
you've traveled to state. In fact, I remember seeing a
very contentious I don't know if their town hall meetings
or what exactly the format was, but you ran into
some very unhappy folks out in I think it was
Tera Hope, Micah, where they were upset about the way
that you talked about the rights I guess of people
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in this country illegally.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
What is what is that environment?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Like, Micah, do you feel like do you feel like
these people just want the sound bites and the fight
to to you know, to broadcast and to fundraised with
or do you think that is their general confusion? Do
they just want to take you down? Do they care?
Where do you find that most of these folks that
have these sorts of interactions with you land.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
On that scale?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are they reasonable? Are they just trying to get a
sound bite? What where do they Where do they land?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Now? I think can I check all of the above there,
because I think you get on all of it.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So so it just depends.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, I think it depends and I think ultimately, if
you're going to boil down to what's the fundamental problem,
I think it's a spiritual problem. It's a it's a
spiritual blindness. These people are completely confused. Uh it leads
to mental illness. Now not all of them are mentally
ill people, but they they are certainly confused by uh,
some really poor reason and rationale. I mean, they don't
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they don't even unders like again, if there is no God,
there is no good right like, this is what Jesus
said when the rich young ruler approached him and said, hey,
good teacher, you know what shall I do to inherit heaven?
Jesus said, why do you call me good? There's no
one good but God? And that's the fundamental problem. And
you know, my friend, you know, Charlie Kirk, before he
was killed, one of the things I loved when he
would talk about it, he said, he said that we
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are a Christian government. We are absolutely one hundred percent
of Christian government. The problem is we are increasingly becoming
a non Christian culture.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
And that is that that's the friction that you're seeing.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
So when I go to these town halls, when you're
trying to talk about Christian values that underpin our entire
legal system and our entire protections of our god given rights.
And you have people who hate God, they fundamentally reject
him and everything he is. Well, yeah, they don't. They're
super confused, and then they get mad and they say,
you know what, what's your God? We don't want religion anywhere?
And I said, okay, fine, but what religion are you
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going to replace it with? Because you can't have a
country that is religion less. It's every country is based
on a religion. Every country has a god. Now, in
Mao's communist China, he was God. In Stalin's communist Russia,
he's God. In the Kim dynasty over in North Koreina, Korea,
they are gods. And so so you have to have
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a god. So, okay, America, pick who's your God? Is
it Donald Trump? Is it Micah Beckwith, is it the collective?
If you don't want the God of heaven and earth, okay,
you're gonna have to replace him with someone. And so
what I say is no, no one's good enough to
be God. And by the way, the collective isn't even
good enough to be God. Because we see what happens
in places like Nazi Germany when the collective says, hey,
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we think we should murder six million Jews. Okay, well
the Jews had that that be fell on the Jews
because the collective idol of their day, which was which
was the people in Hitler.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
They just went along with it. And so we don't
want any of this.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
All wicked, it's all evil, and the only good that
comes to a nation is when God is their God,
the one true God. And so that's why in America
we are so unique, because we have said that from
the very inception, you go all the way back to
the MAINI Mayflower Compact, and that is one hundred percent
where what this land was dedicated to, to the glory
of God and and UH and.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
His his ways.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
And so so anyway, all that to say, that's what
usually what happens when I go into these in these
town halls. I'm speaking from a God is the author
of truth perspective.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Some of these leftists.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Will come at me and they hate God and then
they just get they just lose their minds. And so
it's but I like it. I think it's fun. I really,
you know, it's kind of it's my hobby. I can't
golf in the wintertime, so I got to do something.
So it's a great hobby.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It's a great hobby. Yeah. It reminds me.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I just put a quote on our daily newsletter here
that says, it is impossible. This is George Washington, isn't
it is impossible to write and govern a nation without
God in the Bible.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
God in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
I know. I love that quote. I use that often.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Is it just that's he's the greatest American, our first
president and he I mean, that is such a powerful
quote from him, because they'll say, oh, separation of church's state,
which is not found anywhere, and our are not in
our founding doctor that you cannot find that phrase anywhere.
And I'll say, but you know what George Washington said,
It's impossible to rightely government without God in the Bible.
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John Adams says, our constitution is only inadequate except for
your religious and moral people.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
The Northwest Ordinance, Article three, the Northwest Ordinance seventeen eighty
seven says the three things that must be taught public
schools are religion, morality, and knowledge.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
And we got rid of religion in the sixties.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Morality went out the windows shortly after that, and now
knowledge is going out out the windows because we got
rid of the foundation, which is religion based in the
Judeo Christian ethic that our founders going to be true.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Sure, there's a war. There's a war on truth.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And that's a strange quote, by the way, from a
president who founded a secular nation to make for sure. Right, Sorry,
all right, right, so let's let's get it back into
the mechanics here. I just have a few minutes. So
one of the things that has and I don't put
you in this group, by the way, you're you're not
in this group. I don't put Braun in this group.
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I like Braun quite a bit. But I think historically,
and at least in recent years, Indiana's Republicans have become uh,
I don't know, moderate republicans I'm thinking of.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Again, you don't have to agree with what I don't.
I say what I say and whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
But Todd Young, Eric Holcombe, I think that we've had
people that are like this, that are not maybe principled conservatives.
There there may be I don't know, I don't want
to say liberal Republican, but definitely not principled conservative.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And I wonder how much.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Of that, Micah has permeated the majority in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
That we that we have here.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Is that a part of this or some people just
they just don't see the problem with whether we elect
Democrats or Republicans to the US Congress.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Is it not that big of a deal to them?
Who cares? I've is that at play at all?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Or what's I guess what motivates some of these people
who aren't who maybe against initially the idea of redistricting.
What is what's going out on in their minds?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Yeah, I think it's twofold. I think, yes, you're right.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
We have some moderate liberal Republicans, you know, you can rhinos,
you can call them. I mean they if we were
a Democrat controlled state, they would love to be a Democrat,
but they just can't win. So they have an art
next to their name and that's how they win. So so, yes,
we do have that problem, absolutely. But I think we
also have some principal conservatives who might be against redistricting
for the reason of, well, hey, constitutionally, how do you.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Every ten years?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Right, Well, there's a there's a way to do that,
and and I've I've said it many times over, but
you you like, they kind of find themselves on these
on these like, well, I'm sticking to my guns. You know,
this is not what the founders intended. It's like, well, yeah,
but the founders also didn't intend that the states would
lose the ability to be able to pick the senators, right, Like,
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so there's a lot of things that have happened that
we've warped the progressive era. That drs are the John Dewey's,
the you know, the Woodrow Wilson's. They they they laid
the foundation for the progressive movement back in the early
nineteen hundreds and one of the things was was to
get rid of the Senate being controlled by the states.
And so that to me is they just don't see
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the whole big picture going on.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
So they're not bad people, they're.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Not absolutely you know, they're just they're just i think
principled on the and then they're not able to see
the thirty thousand foot feet what's happening and why they
need to get down into the weeds here and vote
for this redistricting.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
So, but yes, we do have a problem.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
We were put in Indiana with moderate Republicans or here's
here's where it came from.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
It was the Miss Daniels era. Now Miss Daniels have
a lot of respect.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
For Yeah, can you stay World War segment? I guess
six minutes on the other side of the break if
you get can you do that?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, one hundred percent sits.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I'm just up against the clock. I'm too long winded here,
Sit tight, my friends. I would like it back with
to the governor of the State of Indiana. Quick time
out my friends back in just a minute.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Welcome back, my friends.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Talking with Micah Beck with Lieutenant Governor of the State
of Indiana.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I'm gonna let him finish his thought. I had to
cut him off very rudely of me.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Last segment. It just ran out of time. I got
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on here, Micah, before the break, you were talking about
Miss Daniels before I ever so rudely interrupted you to
take that time out.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, no problem, Hey, all good.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
But yeah, what I was saying was you know where
this moderate Republican ideals come from in Indiana? Was you know,
if you remember back to Mitch Daniels, who have a
lot of respect for because he got our fiscal house
and order in the early two thousands. He kind of
made a social truce, right, he said, we're not gonna
we're not gonna address the social issue, We're just gonna
be unfix the economic problems. Well that's all well and good,
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and the problem is the left didn't stop. They didn't
they didn't honor that truth, and and we had we
had an economic house collapsing.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
And he did what was right at the time.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
But we have Republicans who now still applied the same
Mitch Daniels philosophy in a totally different world. I mean,
remember in two thousand and five, two thousand and six,
we weren't seeing the Radical Democrat.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Party, uh like we see it today. This was not a.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Party in two thousand and six that was pushing transgenderism
Menen Woen in sports, open borders, I mean the destruction
of the nuclear family through traditional marriage.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Like even Bill Clinton was calling.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
For secure borders and Hillary Clinton was calling, you know,
the marriage as the pinnacle, you know, sacred marriage as
the pinnacle of the family.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
You know, all this in society.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So so we kind of have these Mitch Daniels Republicans
today to say, well, it worked for Mitch back then.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
It's like, yeah, but we live in a completely different
era now.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
So they want to get They want to stay away
from the abortion conversations, the immigration conversations, they want to
stay away from the the you know, marriage conversations, all
those things that are I believe are fundamental to the
foundations of the fabric of our freedoms, and they don't
want to touch them.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
And it's just these were of an economic house.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I'm like, guys, your economic house will collapse if the
moral fabric of the foundations begin to falter. And so
they just don't get it. And I think that's that's
the problem that we're living in.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And so now we got this special session call that's
going to be next week, so we have listeners all
over the country, but of course Indianapolis is home base
for me. It's where we started our program here on
our flagship at Freedom ninety five.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
What would you say.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
To the people here in this part of well in Indiana,
if they want to see the state move forward with redistricting,
what can they do? What are some steps that they
can do that actually could move the needle here.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Well, call your state senator, because that's really where the
battle is going to be called the leadership. Call Senator Bray,
Senator Garden. Barton's a hard Yes, Bray's probably an know
from everything that I'm hearing. But call them and say,
we got to reclaim our voice as a state in Washington.
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Our rightful voice, fair, our fair, our fair voice. This
is this is not about taking more than than Indiana deserves.
This is about getting our voice back because states like
Illinois and California have watered down and stolen the weight
of our voice as Hoosiers.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
So this is about reclaiming our voice in Indiana. Tell
them that.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Call your senators and say, senator, please fight for our
voice in Washington.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
This doesn't have anything to do with in Annapolis.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Has everything to do with Indiana's voice as a whole
in in DC.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
And maybe I'll I'm going to reach out to Rod too.
I know Rod a little bit. Maybe he'll come on
the program and explain his perspective. But yeah, that's great advice, Mick.
I appreciate what you're doing. You take a lot of arrows,
a lot of arrows out there. I wanted to tell
you I got a friend. I've got a friend who
I finds herself in the middle, maybe slightly to the left.
I mean she's she's not a radical leftist. I mean
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she's maybe slightly liberal, but she's reasonable human being. And
you know, she's the organization she's a part of has
been taken a hit from some federal funding with grants
and everything going on with budgets, and I can can
really sympathize with her in that. But when she found
out that I knew you, she was a little bit
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taken aback, and I said, you got to give Mica
a chance. I said, whatever they've portrayed Micah in the
public light, how the media has done this, or the
Democrats or the lunatics out there, that's not the guy
that I know. So I just want you to know
that I appreciate it. I know what it's like to
be maligned, not to the level that you've been maligned
and mistreated and lied about. So, but I want to
commend you and say keep doing what you're doing, and
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I appreciate you joining us on the program.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
My friend, Hey, thank you, Tom. It means a lot.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
And yes, if you know that way I look at it,
if the anti American media is coming after you, then
just means I'm doing something right. So if they weren't
maligning me, i'd be a little nervous. So I'm doing
something wrong, so we'll keep doing it.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I know you got a busy day ahead. You've got it.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Sounds like a busy session coming up here, so I'll
let you go. Micah Beck with Lieutenant Governor the Great
State of Indiana. Micah, Thank you, sir, Thank you ton
All right, friends, that is all the time we have today.
That is actually perfectly timed out. So I want to
thank again Micah from being on here today. Appreciate you
for listening to the program. What do you think about this?
(40:29):
You can let us know, tell me where you think
I'm wrong. I'm going to try to get Rod Bray
on the program. I'm going to try to get other
voices on here as well.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
The friends.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
It's time for me to wrap up for the day.
As the music is telling you in the background, thank
you so much for listening my friends, have a wonderful day.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
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All right, my friends, I've told you for some time
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The main reason for this is that I've been reevaluating things.
I sincerely mean this since the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk,
and I've realized that we have to get the message
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out in front of these people more aggressively, wherever they are,
and so I think interviews are a way to do that.
And I've got a special guest here that I'll bring
on here and just a moment.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He's a friend of mine for a good while.
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Lieutenant Governor of the State of Indiana, Mike.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's a pleasure to have you on the program today.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
How are you, sir, Hey, Thanks I'm doing really well,
and thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
So you're doing great work and really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And you know, Mike and I just so those of
you listening, No, Mike and I met several years ago
through John Crane, who's a guest host on this program.
Former state senator here who's doing some great work as well.
We met several years ago. Micah has been a guest
host on this program. And Michael, I'm just curious off
the top here, how do you compare guest hosting on
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this program to being lieutenant governor? How what's the comparison there?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Sure job is way more fun.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Man.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
When I grow up, I definitely want to be you
some day.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So that's my uh that's my dream job. But uh no,
it's it's good. I enjoy being lieutenant governor too. It's uh,
it really is. In all seriousness, it's an honorable or
traveled the state already, just crisscrossing the state, meeting so
many amazing people.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
It gives you a lot of hope for.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
When you get out, like when you get outside of
the Indianapolis bubble and you actually get to see real
Hoosiers and get real you know, every day you know,
jobs and and they just have you know, their faith
and family and freedom focused people. I just I love it.
And I mean I'm heading down to uh, you know, Seymour,
Indiana right now. I'm in the car and we're going
down to Foss Tech and and uh you know, I
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think they they manufacture a U M O and and
guns and all kinds of cool stuff like that. And
I'm excited to learn more about you know, their job
and their their business. So it's just cool opportunities that
would you know, I would never otherwise had.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well let's and I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I appreciate you sharing that, And what you said kind
of resonates with me as we've traveled the country on
our truth tour.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's one of the things that hit me as well.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know, you get inside of these bubbles when you
talk about politics, or you're in the state capital, you're
at the you know, you're inside the in your situation,
the inter operations of government.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But you step outside and you realize there's a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Of people with a whole lot of sense and hard
work that make this country possible. So I commend you
for going around the state and meeting those folks and
hearing from them. So let's talk about what's happening here. Now,
we have listeners all over the country, and I always
make sure that they know I'm not here just to
talk about what's happening in Indiana. But what's happening in
Indiana is actually happening in a lot of places, or
could be happening in a lot of places. So let's
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talk about specifically redistricting here in the state of Indiana.
It sounds like, if I'm hearing things correctly, Mike Brawn
is about to make an announcement where there's going to
be a special session to where redistricting is going to
be considered in the legislature.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Is that correct, Micah?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yes, And and the governors has been an advocate for redistricting.
You know, he's obviously a great ally of President Trump,
and as am I, and you know, we love, we
love what President Trump is doing. And he's taught the
Republican Party how to fight again. And so I'm very
grateful for President Trump's leadership in this and what President
Trump is looking at he's looking pragmatically. Uh, you know,
(05:24):
the Democrats have screwed us, the Republicans for many years
by gerrymandering and patting their numbers by counting illegal immigrants
and aliens, and and getting more congressional representation.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And and so the president rightfully.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So it called it out and said, you guys are
cheating in blue states while red states we like to
you know, live above approach and play the game as
the rules were written. And and then we're just getting screwed,
you know. And and the Democrats are going to the bank,
laughing all the way there. And and our representation in
states like Indiana, we have a weaker voice in Washington
(06:02):
with our Republican reps because of states like California, Illinois,
the New England states, they've they've watered down our voice
as a state in Washington. So this is all about
our states' rights in Washington. That's what I keep saying.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
It's it.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And after the seventeenth Amendment Todd, which is one of
the worst amendments, probably the second worst ever, probably sixteenth
is the worst.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
But the seventeenth Amendment, we we.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Lost the ability to have state representation through the US Senate.
The legislature used to used to pick the US Senator
and that was how states would be represented. And so
we turned it into just another you know us House.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
It's just a lesser house essentially, just fewer.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Members, and and that was terrible. And so the only
way now states have a voice in Washington is through
the congressional maps. And so when other states cheat, then
it hurts states like Indiana. So President Trump, Governor Braun, myself,
we've all been calling for us for a long time.
The House, the Indiana House is good. I think we've
got the boats. There's these Republican senators that just don't
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see it. They don't see the world we live in.
They still live in the nineteen eighties, the nineteen nineties.
They want to They think the game is Ronald Reagan's
Republican Party versus Tip O'Neil's Democrat Party.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I'm sorry, that's not the world we live in. The
Democrats are Marxists.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
The radicals they have the It is not Tip O'Neil
Democrat Party anymore.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
We're to be dealing with it just a.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Radicalized, crazy Marxist Democrat Party, and the Republicans have to
wake up to that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm with Micah Beck with Indiana's Lieutenant Governor he's on
the road on his way to Seymour to a meeting there.
So if he does cut out on occasion, it's because
of the connection. But we've got a good one. But
it cut out briefly there, Micah for a moment. So
let's talk No, you're all good. You're all good, really
briefly here, Let's let's talk about that, because I think
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you've made a couple of really interesting and good points.
The first is, let's talk about what the modern Democrat
party has become. Because I was raised in a Union
Democrat home, but I would say that my family was
I don't know, blue dog Democrat, conservative Democrat, moderate Democrat,
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Reagan Democrats, something like that, which is there is literally
none of that in Washington, D C.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Today.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And so when we elect people in the state of
Indiana who are Democrats, even if they pretend to be moderate,
as they often do to get votes, when they go
to Washington, D C. The people they elect to lead
the party and the agenda that they basically are supporting
and endorsing is one not of John F. Kennedy's party
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back in the sixties. These are radicals, I mean, talk
a little bit about that. Micah what this fight is
really about. Ideologically.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, well, I said for a long time that JFK's
party was the party that fought against the communists. Now
his party wants to be the communists, and so he
would he would not be welcomed in his own party
right now.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
So people want to hold up you know, JFK. They
want to hold up Bobby Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They want to hold up you know, some of these
blue dog pro American Democrats, the tip o'neils of the day.
That's not the party anymore. To your point, Todd, it's
been radicalized. It's it's absolutely a.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Anti American party now.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
And while there are still some good Democrats in my
opinion that that like care for America, the majority of
the party leadership, not just in the state of Indiana
but also in the nation, they hate American values, They
hate American exceptionalism. They think America is fundamentally racist, that
it's rooted in all kinds of evil, and they don't
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believe in God. I mean, they made that very clear.
They kicked God out of their their party platform back
in two thousand, i think twenty twelve convention. And they
don't want anything to do with the fundamental truths of
the laws of nature and Nature's God that are Founders taught.
And so you can't have America without values that our
founders enshrined, that there is a creator, that he is
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the one who gives us our rights. The government is
only there to secure those rights. And the Democrats have
moved away from that, so far away from that that
you can't you know, what fellowship does light have with darkness.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I mean, that's really kind of where I'm at in
all of this.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
And so just Republicans and even blue dog Democrats now
remember Todd, The whole southern part of the Indian state
of Indiana for years, up until just a decade ago,
was hardcore blue dog Democrats. I mean, you couldn't win
a race if you're a Republican. And now look what's
happened is completely flipped. And the reason is not because
the people have changed, but because the Democrat Party has
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gone off.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
The cliff of stupid.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
They're pushing transgenderism and boys and girls sports, mutilation of
children's bodies, the abortion on demand, open borders, economic suicide policies.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I mean, it is just absolutely absurd.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And the people in places like southern Indiana blue dog
Democrats said that's a bruch too far. And as Reagan said,
I didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me.
And that's where we're at today.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
It is.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And so let's let's talk a minute, because I'll be
honest from my vanage point, when I first started, you know,
hearing about redistricting, I mean, I'm I'm still I have
half a foot half by toe, maybe in in the
old school politics where I do want to be fair
and reasonable, and but I also understand that this is
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a political process. Redistricting is up to the state legislature.
It is a political activity. If the voters don't like
what the state legislature has done, the voters can change
the state legislature. And so this is a political exercise
that is one hundred percent constitutional. And to your point
that you hit on earlier, the Democrats are fine doing
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it when it benefits them. But now suddenly they've come
out and said that they're against jerrymandering.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
They want a truce.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's like they had Wilt Chamberlain on their basketball team
before they know fixed all the rules to prevent Wilt
from doing what Wilt did to dominate, and once they
got the benefit of that, they don't want the Republicans
to see that. So it's definitely hypocritical. But I do
want you to walk us through what has to happen next.
So let's say Governor Braun calls this special session. Does
it sound like he's gonna do today? What happens next?
(12:22):
And then there's opposition in the Senate, it sounds like,
I mean Rod Bray, who's a state senator, the Senate
pro tem here, he's our senator in my district, he's
saying that they don't have the votes. Is he still
saying that? Just walk me through what happens next? And
is this going to be a tense fight?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Do you think we're gonna get this done? What happens next?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Oh, it'll be a tense fight. Yeah, I mean it's
it's gonna be close. In the Senate.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's I think we have the votes. If people have
to put their name on the board right like I
think right now, and close groom meetings and kind of
private polling and whipping the vote, I think, uh, we
don't have the votes. But that's only because everyone can
say it privately. And I think you know, the majority
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of the senator is probably in the Senate on the
Republican side, would.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Rather not have to vote on this.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So I think they they're trying to push the governor
to not call the session. Well that's not gonna happen.
The Governor's gonna call the session. And rightfully so. And
so when that, when that push comes to shove, I think,
I think we'll get it through. But it's gonna have
to go through a committee. You're gonna have to see.
There's gonna have to be maps that are created. You know,
we're we are this. We got to create our own maps.
So it's not it's not Washington, you know, drawing the
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lines and so that, and and I was on the
phone with a senator last night and and he said,
I'm in for it, but I'm only in if the
maps are good, right, Like, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna vote on something that I have not actually seen.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
And I think that's completely.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Fair, very reasonable, And yeah, absolutely so. So I think
there's you're gonna have to see the maps, right, Okay,
Like if it's a crappy map, then yeah, don't vote
for it. And you know, we're we're not gonna. We're
not gonna, you know, go into this say well, I'm
all in and no matter what happens, like no, be
wise about it. But but I do think they have
to understand what is happening here. Most Senators that are
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against it, they don't understand that this is a national conversation.
This is Indiana's voice has been warped and watered down
in Washington. And if you care about Indiana's voice, Senators,
then you need to stand up and kick back against
states like.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Illinois, California, New England states.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And I think it's pretty telling when AOC is running
ads in California for redistricting, King Jeffries is going to
Illinois campaigning for redistricting.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
It's really rich.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
When the Democrats of Indiana say, we as a Democrat
party are against this, It's like no, your whole leadership
on a national level is for it in certain states.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
So and President Trump's for it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Micah beck With this for I put out on a
tweet the other day I said, if AOC, Keem Jeffries,
Donald Trump, and Micah beck With are all agreeing on something,
this is the most bipar that we've ever had in
our nation. So so so anyway, that's where I Yeah, that's
where I stand.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So let's I mean, the best argument of people who
are against this or or what that this is just
simply not the way it's typically done. That this is
uh that there's a political acts to grind. I mean,
what what's as objectively as you can what's what is
the hesitation or the opposition to this? How would you
characterize that as fairly as you can?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, I think you gotta remember we got a lot
of senators who are older, right, so they've you know,
there's one senator who's been in office since I.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Was eleven years old, you know, Senator Jim Bug you know,
far too long in my opinion. But that's another issue.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
The and and they say things like, well, we've never
done it this way. This is you know, we don't
we don't do this in the Senate. We're the Senate,
you know, we are esteemed people.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You know, we are the high class, you know, elite.
And I'm like, guys like learn to understand the times.
What we need. We need people with.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
The spirit of the Sons of Issacar that the Bible
talks about that could interpret the times and apply biblical
wisdom to strategy to deal with the problems of the times.
And I feel like what happens in places like the
Indiana Senate is these people live in the glory days
of the nineteen nineties, when you know, it was probably
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a little bit more of a peaceful time because you
didn't have a radicalized Democrat party. You had a Democrat
party to what we were talking about earlier that was
a lot more pro American blue dog.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
They were union workers.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
They didn't believe in the social nonsense crap like you know,
boys and girls sports.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
But that's unfortunately those days are over. I would love
to go back to that.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And honestly I've said too, I would be against redistricting
if I could trust that states like California, Illinois, New England,
you know, the New England area, that they would be
playing fair. And people have asked me this, what's the
outcome of this? If we do it and then the
Democrats are going to do it hard, and then we
come back and do it harder than the Democrats, and
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all of these things just keep we just keep one
up in each other.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
That's not good, right, I say, well, no, it's not good.
But here's what it will do.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
It will force the Supreme Court to get involved and
make it fair across the board, because the Supreme Court
really hasn't.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Done its job in my opinion on.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
This, and so I think the Supreme Court is going
to have to come in and say, Okay, all these
states that are trying to one up each other all
the time with the three districting stuff, here.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Are the rules.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Everybody's going to play by these.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Rules, and that's it. And I think that's what we need.
We need fair rules.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
It gets true, I hear your point.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
The problem is, like we all can say when we
see some of these Gerrymander districts, like there's one in
Illinois that literally connects as many cities as it's as
it can to remain blue. It's this real skinny line
that jogs across the state or whatever. Indiana doesn't really have.
I mean, if you look at the shapes of Indiana's district,
they're I mean they're not like drawn you could tell
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really specifically to try to do something like that. So
everybody knows that gerrymander district, mikel when they see it.
The problem is, what's what's a fair shape?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I mean, these districts are supposed to be proportionally this
remotely close to being the same, because each representative has
to represent roughly the same number of people. I mean,
it just gets really difficult, and it's it is constitutionally
the job of the state legislators. I have a hard
time even deciding what is fair, other than to say,
I know what, it's clearly unfair when I look at it.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I don't know when that line.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Becomes objectively fair. To your point, I just it's I
think it's a political process and that the legislature needs
to be held accountable to the voters as to what
they've done.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And I don't know what else can be I mean,
maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You seem to think the Supreme Court can rule what's
What's something you think could be added here that would
make it I guess fairer from objectively.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So what's happening in Louisiana right now with the Supreme
Court case that would deal with the Voting Rights Act?
I mean, if the Supreme Court gets rid of that,
which they should, it's incredibly unfair to have complete districts
drawn because of somebody's skin color.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Not fair shouldn't be there. If we get rid of that,
it makes it a whole.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Lot easier to draw fair districts that are literally based
on the population.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
That's really what a sense is. Just just tell me
how many people are here.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Right, I don't care what color they are, I don't
care like what they do for a living, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Just tell me the number.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
And by the way, it's legal here, yes, yeah, legally here.
You're not caught. You're not You're not counting illegals. Illegals
have no constitutional rights. They and I've said this before,
they're they do not get to just step foot on
our soil and now claim all kinds of privileges because
they've broke into our country illegally.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
We do.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
That's not the founders into it, that the Constitution does
not apply to them. We have we have Geneva Convention laws,
we have we have humanitarian laws that we we abide
by because we want to be good humans, and we
treat them for respectfully, with dignity from that perspective. But
you're not coming here, and just because my feet are
on the soil, I get all all of a sudden,
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I get to be counted in the census, and I
get somehow privileges that are afforded to citizens. No, no, no,
absolutely not. And so so I think if you if
you take those two things away voting rights acting you
don't it's not about the color of the skin and uh,
and you're not allowed to count illegals period, then it
becomes very easy to make all these districts fair based
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on population.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, we agree, then with Micah Beck with here, Lieutenant
governor of the state of Indiana, let's talk really quickly,
and Mike, I don't know if you've got any more time.
I'm getting near the end of this segment. If you
can stick around on maybe ten more minutes after the break.
If you can't, that's fine. But there's just obviously this
leads to lots of other discussions. I want to paint
(20:49):
a picture. I want you to help paint a picture
about what Washington, d C. Will look like in after
the twenty twenty six midterms if Democrats win this because
it's it's not gonna be legislating, It's not gonna it
is gonna be I mean, what impeachments, investigations. I mean,
it is gonna be a complete side show and it's
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it's political theater. It's you talk about abdicating responsibility for
actual governance and legislating.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I mean, paint that picture I got about ninety second
before I have to get to break the paint the
picture there of what this looks like.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
It'll be a complete clown show, dumpster fire, this is
It's gonna be a get Trump on steroids.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
If you thought the first term.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And impeachment after impeachment was bad, they're gonna do it again.
We all know it's all witch hunt. President Trump has
not in any way, shape or form, done anything that
rises to the level of impeachment, but.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
They will try to do that. They will, they will.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
It will just be made up scandals after made up
scandals if the Democrats get back in control. I'm thankful
that we have Republican majorities, just slim majorities in both
chambers in Washington.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
But it's uh, it's allowed us to be able to
keep our eye on the ball.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I mean, we've got great foreign policy happening, We've got
great domestic policy happening. If we don't win and we
lose the chambers, Washington is just going to be a
witch hunt on steroids, and we can't we can't afford that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
A lot is hanging in the balance for sure. And
I'll tell you what's interesting to me is, and I've
shared this on this show, these conversations, and you're gonna
have to hold your comments, Mike, because I gotta get
to break. But these conversations about redistricting and so forth,
they happen on a regular basis. What's different is Trump
has made these things transparent. He's He's basically said, hey,
(22:37):
I'm calling up governors. We need these seats because we're
in one heck of a political fight. We're in a
fight for the survival of this constitutional republic.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
A lot is at stake.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I have to take a break, though, Micah back with,
Lieutenant Governor Indiana's on the phone with me.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
He'll stick around, Mikey, you can stick around next segment.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Yeah, that'd be great, awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Sit tight, my friends, you're listening to conservative not better
talk on your host Todd huff Back in just a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Welcome back, my friends.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
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phone here with Micah. Back with Lieutenant Governor of the
great State of Indiana again. Now, if you're listening in
a state that's not Indiana, hang with us, because there's
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a chance that this very thing is happening in your state.
It's happened in Texas, it's happening in North Carolina, it's
happened in Missouri, California, I've seen Virginia, Colorado are now
considering it as well. Those are blue states. But Micah,
during the break, you told me that you got a notification.
I'll let you go ahead and share with our audience
(24:37):
what that notification is.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, thanks Todd. The governor just called the special session.
So it's officially been called, and it's going to be
November three, and so we're going to be coming up here.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
What is that Monday, right, Yeah, week from today.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
So yeah, it's gonna be exciting. I was talking to
my friend, the lieutenant governor who is also presides over
the Senate out in miss Uri, the lieutenant governor of Missouri,
and he he was telling they just did this, and
he said it was more contentious and hotter as of
a special session for them than even the abortion special
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session in debate.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Was back a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
So you know, I think, buckle up, it's gonna be uh,
it's gonna be a battle.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
But I'm I'm you know, I'm your huckleberry. I'm ready
for that. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
No you've run into and we can briefly touch on that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I want to get back to redistricting, but that's one
of the things I wanted to ask you about, is
you've traveled to state. In fact, I remember seeing a
very contentious I don't know if their town hall meetings
or what exactly the format was, but you ran into
some very unhappy folks out in I think it was
Tera Hope, Micah, where they were upset about the way
that you talked about the rights I guess of people
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in this country illegally.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
What is what is that environment?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Like, Micah, do you feel like do you feel like
these people just want the sound bites and the fight
to to you know, to broadcast and to fundraised with
or do you think that is their general confusion? Do
they just want to take you down? Do they care?
Where do you find that most of these folks that
have these sorts of interactions with you land.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
On that scale?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are they reasonable? Are they just trying to get a
sound bite? What where do they Where do they land?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Now? I think can I check all of the above there,
because I think you get on all of it.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So so it just depends.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, I think it depends and I think ultimately, if
you're going to boil down to what's the fundamental problem,
I think it's a spiritual problem. It's a it's a
spiritual blindness. These people are completely confused. Uh it leads
to mental illness. Now not all of them are mentally
ill people, but they they are certainly confused by uh,
some really poor reason and rationale. I mean, they don't
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they don't even unders like again, if there is no God,
there is no good right like, this is what Jesus
said when the rich young ruler approached him and said, hey,
good teacher, you know what shall I do to inherit heaven?
Jesus said, why do you call me good? There's no
one good but God? And that's the fundamental problem. And
you know, my friend, you know, Charlie Kirk, before he
was killed, one of the things I loved when he
would talk about it, he said, he said that we
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are a Christian government. We are absolutely one hundred percent
of Christian government. The problem is we are increasingly becoming
a non Christian culture.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
And that is that that's the friction that you're seeing.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
So when I go to these town halls, when you're
trying to talk about Christian values that underpin our entire
legal system and our entire protections of our god given rights.
And you have people who hate God, they fundamentally reject
him and everything he is. Well, yeah, they don't. They're
super confused, and then they get mad and they say,
you know what, what's your God? We don't want religion anywhere?
And I said, okay, fine, but what religion are you
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going to replace it with? Because you can't have a
country that is religion less. It's every country is based
on a religion. Every country has a god. Now, in
Mao's communist China, he was God. In Stalin's communist Russia,
he's God. In the Kim dynasty over in North Koreina, Korea,
they are gods. And so so you have to have
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a god. So, okay, America, pick who's your God? Is
it Donald Trump? Is it Micah Beckwith, is it the collective?
If you don't want the God of heaven and earth, okay,
you're gonna have to replace him with someone. And so
what I say is no, no one's good enough to
be God. And by the way, the collective isn't even
good enough to be God. Because we see what happens
in places like Nazi Germany when the collective says, hey,
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we think we should murder six million Jews. Okay, well
the Jews had that that be fell on the Jews
because the collective idol of their day, which was which
was the people in Hitler.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
They just went along with it. And so we don't
want any of this.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
All wicked, it's all evil, and the only good that
comes to a nation is when God is their God,
the one true God. And so that's why in America
we are so unique, because we have said that from
the very inception, you go all the way back to
the MAINI Mayflower Compact, and that is one hundred percent
where what this land was dedicated to, to the glory
of God and and UH and.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
His his ways.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
And so so anyway, all that to say, that's what
usually what happens when I go into these in these
town halls. I'm speaking from a God is the author
of truth perspective.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Some of these leftists.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Will come at me and they hate God and then
they just get they just lose their minds. And so
it's but I like it. I think it's fun. I really,
you know, it's kind of it's my hobby. I can't
golf in the wintertime, so I got to do something.
So it's a great hobby.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It's a great hobby. Yeah. It reminds me.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I just put a quote on our daily newsletter here
that says, it is impossible. This is George Washington, isn't
it is impossible to write and govern a nation without
God in the Bible.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
God in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
I know. I love that quote. I use that often.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Is it just that's he's the greatest American, our first
president and he I mean, that is such a powerful
quote from him, because they'll say, oh, separation of church's state,
which is not found anywhere, and our are not in
our founding doctor that you cannot find that phrase anywhere.
And I'll say, but you know what George Washington said,
It's impossible to rightely government without God in the Bible.
(30:08):
John Adams says, our constitution is only inadequate except for
your religious and moral people.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
The Northwest Ordinance, Article three, the Northwest Ordinance seventeen eighty
seven says the three things that must be taught public
schools are religion, morality, and knowledge.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
And we got rid of religion in the sixties.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Morality went out the windows shortly after that, and now
knowledge is going out out the windows because we got
rid of the foundation, which is religion based in the
Judeo Christian ethic that our founders going to be true.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Sure, there's a war. There's a war on truth.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And that's a strange quote, by the way, from a
president who founded a secular nation to make for sure. Right, Sorry,
all right, right, so let's let's get it back into
the mechanics here. I just have a few minutes. So
one of the things that has and I don't put
you in this group, by the way, you're you're not
in this group. I don't put Braun in this group.
(30:59):
I like Braun quite a bit. But I think historically,
and at least in recent years, Indiana's Republicans have become uh,
I don't know, moderate republicans I'm thinking of.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Again, you don't have to agree with what I don't.
I say what I say and whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
But Todd Young, Eric Holcombe, I think that we've had
people that are like this, that are not maybe principled conservatives.
There there may be I don't know, I don't want
to say liberal Republican, but definitely not principled conservative.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And I wonder how much.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Of that, Micah has permeated the majority in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
That we that we have here.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Is that a part of this or some people just
they just don't see the problem with whether we elect
Democrats or Republicans to the US Congress.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Is it not that big of a deal to them?
Who cares? I've is that at play at all?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Or what's I guess what motivates some of these people
who aren't who maybe against initially the idea of redistricting.
What is what's going out on in their minds?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Yeah, I think it's twofold. I think, yes, you're right.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
We have some moderate liberal Republicans, you know, you can rhinos,
you can call them. I mean they if we were
a Democrat controlled state, they would love to be a Democrat,
but they just can't win. So they have an art
next to their name and that's how they win. So so, yes,
we do have that problem, absolutely. But I think we
also have some principal conservatives who might be against redistricting
for the reason of, well, hey, constitutionally, how do you.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Every ten years?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Right, Well, there's a there's a way to do that,
and and I've I've said it many times over, but
you you like, they kind of find themselves on these
on these like, well, I'm sticking to my guns. You know,
this is not what the founders intended. It's like, well, yeah,
but the founders also didn't intend that the states would
lose the ability to be able to pick the senators, right, Like,
(32:55):
so there's a lot of things that have happened that
we've warped the progressive era. That drs are the John Dewey's,
the you know, the Woodrow Wilson's. They they they laid
the foundation for the progressive movement back in the early
nineteen hundreds and one of the things was was to
get rid of the Senate being controlled by the states.
And so that to me is they just don't see
(33:18):
the whole big picture going on.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
So they're not bad people, they're.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Not absolutely you know, they're just they're just i think
principled on the and then they're not able to see
the thirty thousand foot feet what's happening and why they
need to get down into the weeds here and vote
for this redistricting.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
So, but yes, we do have a problem.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
We were put in Indiana with moderate Republicans or here's
here's where it came from.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
It was the Miss Daniels era. Now Miss Daniels have
a lot of respect.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
For Yeah, can you stay World War segment? I guess
six minutes on the other side of the break if
you get can you do that?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, one hundred percent sits.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I'm just up against the clock. I'm too long winded here,
Sit tight, my friends. I would like it back with
to the governor of the State of Indiana. Quick time
out my friends back in just a minute.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Welcome back, my friends.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Talking with Micah Beck with Lieutenant Governor of the State
of Indiana.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I'm gonna let him finish his thought. I had to
cut him off very rudely of me.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Last segment. It just ran out of time. I got
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(35:24):
on here, Micah, before the break, you were talking about
Miss Daniels before I ever so rudely interrupted you to
take that time out.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, no problem, Hey, all good.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
But yeah, what I was saying was you know where
this moderate Republican ideals come from in Indiana? Was you know,
if you remember back to Mitch Daniels, who have a
lot of respect for because he got our fiscal house
and order in the early two thousands. He kind of
made a social truce, right, he said, we're not gonna
we're not gonna address the social issue, We're just gonna
be unfix the economic problems. Well that's all well and good,
(35:55):
and the problem is the left didn't stop. They didn't
they didn't honor that truth, and and we had we
had an economic house collapsing.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
And he did what was right at the time.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
But we have Republicans who now still applied the same
Mitch Daniels philosophy in a totally different world. I mean,
remember in two thousand and five, two thousand and six,
we weren't seeing the Radical Democrat.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Party, uh like we see it today. This was not a.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Party in two thousand and six that was pushing transgenderism
Menen Woen in sports, open borders, I mean the destruction
of the nuclear family through traditional marriage.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Like even Bill Clinton was calling.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
For secure borders and Hillary Clinton was calling, you know,
the marriage as the pinnacle, you know, sacred marriage as
the pinnacle of the family.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
You know, all this in society.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So so we kind of have these Mitch Daniels Republicans
today to say, well, it worked for Mitch back then.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
It's like, yeah, but we live in a completely different
era now.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
So they want to get They want to stay away
from the abortion conversations, the immigration conversations, they want to
stay away from the the you know, marriage conversations, all
those things that are I believe are fundamental to the
foundations of the fabric of our freedoms, and they don't
want to touch them.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
And it's just these were of an economic house.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I'm like, guys, your economic house will collapse if the
moral fabric of the foundations begin to falter. And so
they just don't get it. And I think that's that's
the problem that we're living in.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And so now we got this special session call that's
going to be next week, so we have listeners all
over the country, but of course Indianapolis is home base
for me. It's where we started our program here on
our flagship at Freedom ninety five.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
What would you say.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
To the people here in this part of well in Indiana,
if they want to see the state move forward with redistricting,
what can they do? What are some steps that they
can do that actually could move the needle here.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Well, call your state senator, because that's really where the
battle is going to be called the leadership. Call Senator Bray,
Senator Garden. Barton's a hard Yes, Bray's probably an know
from everything that I'm hearing. But call them and say,
we got to reclaim our voice as a state in Washington.
(38:10):
Our rightful voice, fair, our fair, our fair voice. This
is this is not about taking more than than Indiana deserves.
This is about getting our voice back because states like
Illinois and California have watered down and stolen the weight
of our voice as Hoosiers.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
So this is about reclaiming our voice in Indiana. Tell
them that.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Call your senators and say, senator, please fight for our
voice in Washington.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
This doesn't have anything to do with in Annapolis.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Has everything to do with Indiana's voice as a whole
in in DC.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
And maybe I'll I'm going to reach out to Rod too.
I know Rod a little bit. Maybe he'll come on
the program and explain his perspective. But yeah, that's great advice, Mick.
I appreciate what you're doing. You take a lot of arrows,
a lot of arrows out there. I wanted to tell
you I got a friend. I've got a friend who
I finds herself in the middle, maybe slightly to the left.
I mean she's she's not a radical leftist. I mean
(39:05):
she's maybe slightly liberal, but she's reasonable human being. And
you know, she's the organization she's a part of has
been taken a hit from some federal funding with grants
and everything going on with budgets, and I can can
really sympathize with her in that. But when she found
out that I knew you, she was a little bit
(39:26):
taken aback, and I said, you got to give Mica
a chance. I said, whatever they've portrayed Micah in the
public light, how the media has done this, or the
Democrats or the lunatics out there, that's not the guy
that I know. So I just want you to know
that I appreciate it. I know what it's like to
be maligned, not to the level that you've been maligned
and mistreated and lied about. So, but I want to
commend you and say keep doing what you're doing, and
(39:48):
I appreciate you joining us on the program.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
My friend, Hey, thank you, Tom. It means a lot.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
And yes, if you know that way I look at it,
if the anti American media is coming after you, then
just means I'm doing something right. So if they weren't
maligning me, i'd be a little nervous. So I'm doing
something wrong, so we'll keep doing it.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I know you got a busy day ahead. You've got it.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Sounds like a busy session coming up here, so I'll
let you go. Micah Beck with Lieutenant Governor the Great
State of Indiana. Micah, Thank you, sir, Thank you ton
All right, friends, that is all the time we have today.
That is actually perfectly timed out. So I want to
thank again Micah from being on here today. Appreciate you
for listening to the program. What do you think about this?
(40:29):
You can let us know, tell me where you think
I'm wrong. I'm going to try to get Rod Bray
on the program. I'm going to try to get other
voices on here as well.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
The friends.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
It's time for me to wrap up for the day.
As the music is telling you in the background, thank
you so much for listening my friends, have a wonderful day.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
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