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November 14, 2025 21 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Cream cross for safety. That was the thing back in
the day, the.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Proposal thing, and it was a catchy tune except the
only words I remembered of it was buckle up for safety.
Buckle up, and then they went off to say other stuff.
But the catchy part was they always buckle up. It
is National seat Belt Awareness Day. I don't know if
you knew that or not.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm big on seat belt safety. And then you know
a National seat belt Safety is a day is observed
every November fourteenth, and that's today, And just a little.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Over a week ago, we were at a fundraiser for
a very important seat belt awareness foundation called the Kayley
Mills Foundation.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Do you remember being there?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
And some of you may wonder if this is an
important effort to people need to be reminded. Well, here's
the answer to your question. More than forty six thousand
people are killed in car accidents in America every year,
and estimated four.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Point four million people will sustain.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Injuries that require medical attention, and research indicates the vast
majority of them would probably not have had that occur,
had they have just had their seatbelt on.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
And it is so simple and so easy and so necessary,
but still some people forget or just didn't grow up
trained that way and it doesn't occur to them, but
it should.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
And part of the reason we're talking about it right
now is because there's a lot of people driving around
listening to us. Yes there are, and at least a
few of you don't have your seatbelt on, just.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Say you and that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
And by the way, seat belts in the back seat,
while maybe not mandatory, certainly better than not wearing one.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
If you happen to get into an accident, you.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Know, don't take our word for it, and ask our
friend David, he'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh yeah, David from the Kayley Mills Foundation on the
line with us.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Morning day.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Hey, good morning guys, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, first of all, thank you for a great fundraiser
and a great party the other night, even though obviously
the reason for it is very sad. Can you want
to tell people more about your efforts with the Kayley
Mills Foundation.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, So, my daughter passed away. She was killed in
a tragic car accident at age sixteen back in twenty seventeen,
and my wife and I decided that we wanted to
help prevent these kind of tragedies help prevent other families
from having to go through the same tragedy, and the
way we do that is we raise awareness and we

(02:22):
give out scholarships to kids that do these awareness campaigns
and things like that, but we also help families that
have lost somebody in the car crash. And so basically
we're on the prevention side of it, but we're also
there to help when these tragedies do occur.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I was very impressed with one of the people that
got up and spoke about their situation and what they
went through and how the Kayla Bills Foundation helped them
and supported them after their tragedy.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
And I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean, I knew you guys were about, you know,
making everybody aware that seat belt saves lives, but the
scholarship thing and the support for others who have lost
family member that really touched me.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Well, yeah, I appreciate it. I mean, we, my wife
and I had a lot of support when we were
going through that tragedy, and we realized that there's there's
not a I mean, not everybody has that support, and
so we wanted to be able to give back and
give Tayley a legacy that she would be proud of.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
We were raised a pretty good amount of money that night,
I guess, but we did probably also could It's incredible
still use some more.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Oh yeah, I mean right now we are looking at
doing over one hundred school programs in twenty twenty six.
And and you know, these things cost money. And you know,
we travel, we go to schools, we talk to kids.
You know, we also want to grow our scholarships, and
you know, and just the awareness campaigns. You guys are
out there on the road driving. You know, we have

(03:47):
billboards up on the highways to remind people to wear
their seat belts and really just get people to remember
why you wear your seat belt. Yes, it's the law, right,
but that's not the real reason. I mean, the real
reason is is you've got people at home that are
count on you to make it home safe, and people
that would be devastated if something happened to you.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
In our case, we have millions of listeners who would
all be devastated if something happened to us.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I think I'd like to think so, so we buckle up.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
I would be devastated if something happened to y'all. Well,
thank you. You know that everybody that dies in car
crashes expected to make it to their destination. Yep, right,
nobody thinks it can happen to them. And I think
the real reason why people don't wear their seatbelts is
they just don't understand the real consequences because nobody thinks

(04:38):
it can happen to them.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Also, I've had some women I won't name her, I
mean of them who have said it wrinkles their clothes
and they're not going far. Yeah, not going far is
the worst because they said most of these accidents happen
within a mile of my house.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
You know, my daughter was only going a mile away
through a residential neighborhood. It was a thirty mile an
hour road. And uh, she was only two blocks from
our house when it happened, just right around the corner.
And she wasn't she was in the back seat. Yeah,
she she had just took her seat belt off. You know,
everybody was buckled in the car. She took her seat
belt off to slide over in the back seat to

(05:18):
take a selfie because they were in their Halloween costumes.
They were on their way to Halloween party. Uh. By
the way, there was no drinking involved in the in
the crash or anything like that. Yeah, but you know
she was ejected. Yeah, just a freak accident and and
she just let her guard down at the wrong time.
And uh, just just those few moments that she unbuckled
to take take that selfie. The driver went off the

(05:41):
road and hit a colvert and rolled the car. The
other three teenagers in the car, they all walked away
with no injuries.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah, they had their seat belts on, and and you know,
so we did. Our daughter. She died because she didn't
have her seat belt on. And that's the message that
we're trying to get out today on National Seatbelt Day.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think it's an important one, my man, and we
support you. You run in a fantastic organization and we
are we're very proud to be aligned with the efforts
you guys push for it.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
It's important and.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
That's a that's a great thing you do. Take that
tragedy and turn it into something positive that way. Man,
I'm not sure I could have done that if as
my kid, you know, but that you've got to be
strong and stand up there and talk about that.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah, it's a worthwhile message. I mean, if we can
if we can prevent one tragedy, one family from having
to suffer just by going out there and doing the
hard things like speaking out and talking about my daughter's tragedy.
It's not easy, but it is a worthwhile thing. And
and if I can, if I can change somebody's life
just by just by speaking and talking and raising awareness,

(06:44):
it's it's definitely worth it to me in my life.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
We appreciate y'all's efforts.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And I think there's drivers out there listening right now
that probably buckled up while we were talking.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Amen to that.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, look, you want to see your family tonight.
It's a small thing to do. Just put your seatbelt on.
What's the worst that could happen?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right man, and the Kayley Mills Foundation, I'm assuming you
take donations even if we're not at a fabulous charity, Galau,
you could, I guess, go to the website, right.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Dave, Yeah, k A I L E. E. Kayleemills Foundation
dot org. Or you can check us out on Facebook, Instagram.
You can donate through any of those social media platforms
or or directly on our website. Sign up to volunteer.
We have a lot of community events and things like
that going on, not just in Houston, but all over
the place, and we have we have school programs. If

(07:33):
you want us in your schools speaking to your kids
about these these dangers, reach out to us. So reach
out to your school.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
All right, that's good.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I can thank you so much for your time today, David.
It's amazing how long, the how many years we've been
trying to teach people about this. Once upon a time
the Flintstone sold Winston cigarettes, and then after they quit
doing that, they did this.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Take anything that Cuike bought. Freddy, be careful you.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Too, Dad, don't forget to sing a song of seatbelt safety.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh yeah, the Saint well connected to us frame zone,
the labscrap like skip phone.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
They showed the strap angles.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
All us chut bone.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
When I was a little kid in the eighties, we
had a thing called Flintstone.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Kids.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I've never heard that. I know, I know you never did,
you know, not familiar with it. Your kids were too
young and you were too all due have watch that.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
If my kids watched it that I still didn't watch it,
just like setting them in front of the TV for
Barney or the Power Rangers.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
All right.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I did kind of watch some of the Power Rangers
a little bit. Well, the Power Rangers had an interesting
moment or two, you know. Well, yeah, and they had
that one at Yellow Power Rangers. She looked pretty good.
And the Pink Ranger h yeah, obviously, but the yellow one,
me and my boy Billy, a junior, we both thought,
mm hmm. Yeahs you know, sadly some people are using

(08:49):
cars to commit crimes these days, Billy had are you
aware of the uh yeah, police in Washington, DC are
on the lookout right now for nine suspects who Burglari
vape shop. Nine suspects got out of a clown car.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Of just picturing that.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
When you said nine, how many cars did they bring
to the commit the crime?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's amazing, right, No, they just brought one. They just
had this as the wrong one. Was it a van
like a Nicano Line or something, No, just a regular car, huh.
And the crazy part is there is footage of all
nine of them getting out of the vehicle like they're
running out of a clown car. We have a little
bit of audio of it. In fact, here's the owner
of the shop talking about what happened.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
We did find some DNA and stuff like that where
they basically kind of cut themselves because of the glass.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Everything was destroyed. My heart drop because it's like all
of this hard.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Work that we do to bring the community together, to
bring some businesses together.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
It is very hard to build businesses.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, you know how hard it is to get a
vape shop going.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Did they also get in any Pokemon cards or Baseball
cards or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
No, that was a different story. That was the Tom
Brad a separate crime that was just one guy. You
know what's interesting. I was thinking about that years ago.
There was a famous news story when I was a
little kid about a guy who stolen Nolan Ryan Trading card.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well and the way that he stole it. Do you
remember this?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
He stole the card by putting a different price tag
on it. Well, yeah, people are doing that at the
grocery store and other places where they have self checkout.
And I'd like to think, you know, you go to
self checkout, you're going to be a responsible and honest person.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
But people are using it. Is it a way to steal?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
They'll take a price tag off of something cheap, put
it on something expensive, and then they'll just gop and put.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
It in their bag.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And now, of course the grocery store. People have to
hire humans to watch you. They might as well just
have the humans check you out.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
That's one way to do it.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Another way to steal is to put everybody inside of
a tiny Honda Civic and then.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
We have it on the screen. You need to go accord.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
They went to cu It looks like nine No, yeah,
they must know each other, real will I ain't getting
in a car with nine people?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Or is it a Hyundai a Lantra. It's a tiny
little car. Look at how many of them climbing in
the trunk. There's two of them in the trunk. There
are let me be clear, there were two of them
in the trunk, and then the car pulled up.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Would you even want to hang?

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Like?

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Who would want a vape after that?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Shouldn't? Are they investigating? Are they?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Are they possibly looking at people from India because you
know how they loved to load of transportation vehicle of
any kind?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I think usually that's a train.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, I mean, but they can probably get in cars too.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I can't. I can't prove you wrong.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
No, thank you.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Marijuana fixed the memory. D Walton M. Johnson. I call
your son.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
He called you, so I don't mind He's Canadian. That's
the thing.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I don't like how they do things up there.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I get I got tickets.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
This weekend, I'm gonna be in San Antonio for a
private comedy show. And then while I'm there, I'm gonna
go check out Grandson with Horror, which is a black
rock metal rap group produced by Travis Parker from Blenkolney.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Sorry, glutton for punishment, aren't you?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I like angry loud music, guess, and he thinks it'll
get him laid.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
I don't know why else. And but if you do
something like.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
That, oh, I'm over that. I men, I've decided to
become an insult.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I think that's important.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, technically, you're not an insult if you choose, if
you choose to, Yeah, I think that's just like being
a Catholic priest. You're just going to be a cell. Yeah,
that's it. Anyway, I'm gonna be in San Antonio this weekend.
If anybody wants to buy me a taco.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well sure?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh h the the what did what did what's his
name's wife? Biden's wife say about the Mexican gals in
San Antonio?

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Hang on, do you want me to it?

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Was different than what Charles Barkley said about him.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Okay, Charles Barkley, Tura while you're there, I said, Oh, no, them,
them San Antonio girls eat too many Charles. But that's right,
Joe Biden, though her Peggy Hell Spanish has always made
me laugh.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
We have a lot of these sound bites.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
But we can't get those things on our own. We
can help build this organization with the understanding that the
diversity of this community strength as distinct as the boga
does of the Bronx, as beautiful as the blossoms of Miami,
and as unique as the breakfast tacos here in San Antonio.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Rima, you hear that text, Mexicans you are you are
all breakfast tacos.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
That's right, that's you so and that's and she I
do have great breakfast tacos. Though if you go to
the right place. Oh, I'll look you up with a
couple of spots.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
But if you enjoy that, you should hear her lead
the latinos and chant.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
So say it with me.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
She say, wad way the future is arms.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, no, it's not.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
While we're on the topic.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Ause San Antonio man used a wooden chair to whack
a masked robber or an armed robber. Uh, well, the
guy had a metal pipe. He was robbing a dairy queen.
It's still armed. And so the guy took a wooden chair.
Was it a dairy queen chair?

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Guy, he was at dairy Queen. I figured he probably
didn't bring one from the house.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
San Antonio Fox reports it was a quiet night at
the San Antonio Dairy Queen, and it turned into chaos
when a man armed with a metal pipe tried to
rob the restaurant while families and children were inside. Oh no,
they were children.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
The children.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
They were enjoying their blizzards and their dilly bars and
one of their hunger busters.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
They got good tacos a dairy Queen too, well, at
least the one that I went to.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Surveillance surveillance video shows the suspect walking in just after
nine pm. This is metal pipe, please say. He demanded
money from the register. The employee tried to keep calm
and protect the children nearby, and something about that moment
lit a fire in the in the belly of one customer.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
How old is this old boy?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It doesn't say no, it's.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Just I bet he's in his sixties.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Christopher Ortiz grabbed the closest thing he had, a solid
wooden dining chair, and he swung it at the suspect
with full force.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Sending him running out the door.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
He didn't put him on the floor with it.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
You crash a chair over a guy's you know, head,
or his back and shoulders, they're.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Supposed to fall to the floor.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
The storm manager says Ortez's courage likely prevented a tragedy.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
For his bravery, Ortees.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Was honored with Fox San Antonio's Cash for Kindness Surprise
one thousand dollars reward.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I bet he would have rather had a lifetime supply
of blizzards.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Don't you know it. That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
The suspect has not been caught, but apparently he has
a big bump on his head.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
That's funny, So look out for that guy.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
I look out for a guy with a bump on
the back of his head.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm almost on the back because if he'd had it,
you know, facing forward, he probably would have ducked or
moved out of the way or something.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And what's the matter, Why can't y'all just act right?

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I know people just won't act right. And that's in text.
He's imagine how people act in California.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Sure, wow, look how they act in Memphis.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's why Trump sent more National Guards, more National Guard
coming to Memphis. A spokesperson for the Memphis Police Department
said the total National Guard presence in Memphis currently is
one hundred and forty to one eighties. Somewhere in there,
they're gonna double it up to three fifty.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well, and it is having a positive effect. Unless you're
a Democrat and you love crime, the Republicans are just
the opposite.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
They want to put a stop to crime. I want
to hear from our listeners in Memphis about this. If
you want to call in eight sixty six, I love WJ.
How do you feel about the National Guard walking the
streets of your city out there? We've been told over
and over again, this is a violation at of several
liberties of the Lord. Donald Trump is destroying Memphis, and
yet I can't find a single example of how that's true.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
You can also email listener, put your thoughts down in
a little tepcaptap Walton Johnson dot com, hit the email button, boom,
and we're reading them, just like I'm reading this one
right here, and all these others that have just come
in and stuff about Fetterman, stuff about the app Trump,
the case in Georgia. Oh, and good news for Kenny.

(16:56):
You know, we get we want to get a lot
of good news out of California. But I think this
is good news for Kenny.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
What happened.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Uh, there's a new name being considered for the race
for California's governor and his name is Wallwell, Eric Swalwall's
going to run for He is all but in. Two
sources that have you know, don't want to be identified, said, uh,

(17:23):
he is all but in as far as deciding to
run for governor, he'll probably announce this early next week.
And he he said, he just wants to fill the
role of the fighter protector for the Democrats of California.
You know, he's not running for all the people of California,
just for the Democrats. Okay, Well, which is about eighty

(17:43):
percent of California.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Wasn't that how Katie Porter got into trouble in the
first place? They asked her a pretty straightforward question. The
way the elections work there, it's kind of like Louisiana,
sort of like a jungle primary.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Oh yeah, they got a lot of people lining up
for this governor gig calls.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
You know, haircut boy, he's out, and very very very
often in the runoff, it comes down to two Democrats,
which means whichever Democrats closest to the middle get could
Garnish could could achieve enough right wing Republican votes, of
which there's roughly eight million people in the state.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't know how the Californians feel about having a
Chinese gal as their first lady at the governor's mansion,
but Swallwheel's in tight with that.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
The Chinese communist.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Swing Swing or whatever her name was.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Fangfang was her name. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, well, you know she's she's liable to be the
first lady of California one of these days.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Now we're getting some phone calls from Memphis. Eight six six,
I love WJ. You want to take a couple of these.
We love our Memphis listeners. Steve is on the line. Steve,
you guys got the National Guard in your city. We've
been told over and over again by people in New
York and Washington, d C. That this is bad for Memphis.
People that would probably never step foot in your city.
What do you think of it?

Speaker 7 (18:55):
Well, I was born and raised here in my sixties now,
and I'm very glad that they're here. The crime overall
is down the it seems that the erratic driving is
down a little bit, although I have been here, like
I say, all my life, and there've always been some
pretty pretty aggressive drivers in Memphis. But it is much

(19:18):
much better.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, good Steve, you've probably heard me tell the story before.
I love Memphis. I love it. I've been there many, many,
many times. It is one of the only places where
I ever saw a dead body laying in the street,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, there's that, all right. I thought it was before
Trump sent the Guardian too.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah, it was. Wait, it was years ago.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
My favorite spot when I'm rolling through Memphis is Blue
City Cafe because it's open twenty four hours and you
can get ribs.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Where should I go?

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Oh yeah, Well, there's plenty of places, man, I'm gonna
tell you quite frankly, I've gotten to it because of
the crime being so bad. I didn't haven't been going
down to Beal Street or any thing like we've been.
Of course, Deal Street is one of the bigger attractions here, yep.
And you know there's there's plenty. There's plenty of things
to do around here. All you got to do is,

(20:09):
you know, check out the tourist people, the tour you know,
the tourists, Uh, guru, because they they got all kinds
of good stuff going on. And I really do love Memphis.
But man, I'm going to tell you here, last last decade,
it has gotten gotten pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
To those of us that live in big cities. My
friends out in the country, I'll ask, well, what.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
What are you doing in Houston? What are you doing
in New Orleans? Man?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
These places are worth fighting for. This is America. These
are important. These are you know, great beacons of civilization.
Why shouldn't we defend them.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
There's a reason that Houston's got, you know, somewhere between
I don't know, four seven million people in it and
around it somewhere.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Steve, you think, do you think Graceland's worth visiting or
is it overrated?

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Uh? Well, I'll be honest, I've always liked Elvis. I'm
not a huge Jovis fan, but it is you know,
it has a lot to offer. It does have a
lot to offer, and that is one of the you
know that is one of the tractions here, especially if
you're in the music overall, because they do actually, you know,
have concerts there now and everything. They have a concert

(21:12):
studio or whatever you want to call it that they do.
They do hold concerts there.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
So you know, if you don't you know, okay, if
you don't like Alvis, you ever check out Jewish Elvis
aka Neil Diamond.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
Yeah, really you have a Jewish rock. I'm afraid I'm
more of a rock and roll and old rock and
roll and alternative kind of doubt.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, you and I do have that. Maybe possibly call
somebody to want to go to Gracelynn. Let's just give them.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
The warning though. All right, put your.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Seat belt on when you drive over there, and keep
your head on the swivel when you're getting out of
the car in that neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Good advice. Here we go. It's out raised wa raise
wa raised war rais? Why is everybody? It's going down?
It's going down?

Speaker 4 (21:53):
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