The Warped Shelf - Deadpool & Wolverine

Six years and one major studio acquisition later, we finally have a third Deadpool movie, and he's brought a friend. Does it have any merit or is it just there to dangle cameos in your face? Was it worth bringing back Hugh Jackman? Does he actually put on the mask? Let's get into it.

 Episode #161

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Hello, and welcome to the Warpshelf.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm Frank Duran, I'm Deshaun Vasquez, and we are.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Two artists reaching into the pile of.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
You could say, well, today it's going to be comics
and comic book movies, but it can be television shows,
it can be It probably won't be books because.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
You don't read.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I've read, but basically any sort of storytelling medium that
moves you, anything that's worth keeping on your shelf, and
that can be literally or physically, or that can be spiritually,
just something to take with you.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, and today we're gonna talk about, uh, we're returning
to the podcast world. Sorry, we've been on a summer break,
but we are back now, and we're back to talk
about d.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Mcu being back.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
We're here to talk about the Fox universe being back.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
We're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Back in a matter of perspective because you know, the
whole like meme of like MCU is dead, MCU is back,
MCU is dead. I have friends that I know who
have been like, oh man, I haven't liked a movie
basically since Endgame. I'm like Guardians Volume three came out
last year. You saw it, you loved Dead saw it.
We all saw it and it was great. Like you
said the same thing when No Way Home came out.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It's every year, I was. I think I was saying
it before.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's like it's a It's the difference between Marvel comic
book fans and Marvel movie fans is that Marvel comic
book fans just read what they like, you know, and
then they're like, wow, Marvel Universe is doing so well,
you know, like and then and then, but then there's
the MCU fans, and they don't. They just watch whatever

(02:05):
they put out and they're mad when it's not for them,
and you're kind of like, guys, there's the.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Model Universe is big, huge.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Some things are not for you, you know, like that's
that's just the reality of it, is that some comics
are not written for you. And guess what, you don't
have to read them, you don't have to buy them.
And that's I think, you know, sort of what's going
on with the MCU is that they feel like they
have to watch something and when it's really not made

(02:33):
for them, yeah, or their general audience.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know. It's also that old adage of like people
don't know what they want until they get it, Yeah,
just expanded upon like I've seen like the uh we
had just had SDCC roll by, so there were a
bunch of trailers and stuff. We just got like the
first reveal for Creature Commandos, which is like the first
proper installment for like this new DCU under James Gunn

(02:56):
and like the movie and TV side and it's so
funny see people be like, who the fuck are these guys?
It's just like what you guys acting like you knew
who the Guardians were before James gun tackled them.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Come on, exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's also the same thing of just I had this
huge ramble because thank you Facebook memories. It was showing
me reading Demon Knights from when we were in college. Ah,
Demon Knights, what a great book that no one fucking read,
just like all the other really good New fifty two
books that no one fucking read, and then proceeded to
complain that there were too many batbooks.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, it's it's exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
That is that there is great stuff and you just
need to choose what you like instead of being mad
about what you don't and what isn't made for you,
you know, like, and I feel like that creates that
like MSUs Dead MSU's back feeling that happens every year
because they're you know.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Can't they make new original things? New original thing comes out?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I don't recognize anyone in it. I'll just wait for streaming,
yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
They're like, oh, wait for it to come out. Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
And it's like, I feel like that's gonna keep happening
as we expand into more and more of the Marvel
and the DC universe. I feel like we're gonna sort
of hit that with Thunderbolts. Is that, like Thunderbolt we
got some stuff some s DCC for for Thunderbolts, and
I feel like that's a team that no one who

(04:22):
hasn't made comics knows about. But then they'll see that
it has the MCU people and they'll be happy. But like,
as Thunderbolts fans, you're like, this isn't the right Thunderbolts roster.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
This is stupid.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like the scraps from like the Espionage stuff, all these
people do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Where's Ghostrid where exact exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's like Thunderbolts was always supposed to be like the
edgy Avengers, you know, like, you know, not just the
dark Avengers.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
They were just supposed to be like the edge of
the universe, basically.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
The Marvel Knights team. Yeah, right back when Marvel Knights
was an imprint exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I think that that I'm cool with them bringing
that kind of feel to it, but I have big
doubts with them just being like, oh, here's all the
parts from the rest of the MC universe that we
can't fit in anywhere, but we want to keep using.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Let's throw them into Thunderbolts.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
And you're just like, yeah, they were gonna have Ghost.
You're like, hey, guys, you remember Ghost, Ghosts guys lost
do you remember Ghost?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, everyone remembers that.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
And you're like, no, no, no one gave a shit
about ant Man was just a just a bad one,
you know, like you're just like, damn. But today we're
talking about Deadpool and Wolverine, or Wolverine and Deadpool if
you're nasty, and I think that it's I think it's
one of those movies that will make you feel good

(05:53):
leaving the theater. I feel like that's the number one
thing I want to say about Deadpool Wolverine is that you,
as a Marvel fan, as a Fox fan, you will
you know, as a general superhero fan, you will walk
out feeling good after this. Is it supposed to be
some deep endgame like movie. No, this is supposed to

(06:15):
be a fun summer blockbuster, and I think it nails that.
I think that this pretty much nails that that summer
blockbuster you feel where you don't have to put in
a lot of thought to it. You're just having a
good time, you know, because, yeah, if you try to
get deep on this movie, which will kind of nitpick
this movie as we go along. I don't know if

(06:36):
it's the strongest you know, Marvel Entry or anything like that,
but I felt good leaving it. It was a good time. It,
you know, wish fulfilled for a lot of people. I
feel like there's a lot of wish fulfillment going on
in this movie. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, a
lot of fans service. But I do want to say
I think this is the best Deadpool movie. I think

(06:58):
out of the three, this is I think leaps and
bounds better than first the first two. And I think
the first two people love.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Like I do really like the first Deadpool movie still,
I mean enough to own a nice steal book of it.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Nice, nice. It is good. I'm not saying it. I'm
just saying it is.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
A film that excels on what was very simple means
Like Fox clearly didn't throw a lot of money at them,
but you get a director like Tim Miller whose background
was in like VFX, and you can make it look
a lot bigger than it was. It's humble, but it works,
and it actually has like a lot of love for
the character in the aesthetic. Deadpool two is one that's

(07:41):
like waned on me more and more over time, even
having rewatched it recently because I went through all like
the Fox X Men movies, I think again leading up
to X Men ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think Deadpool two is it's just two. It's funny clips.
I feel like the movie is fun when you see
clips of it and you're like, wow, that's that's a
fun movie. But then when you sit down and watch it,
you're kind of like.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's not so great.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's like it's like two steps away from like a
Man in Black two style sequel. Deadpool one felt like
it was a parody of superhero movies. Deadpool two just
feels like it's a parody of Deadpool one. Yeah, and
that's kind of like plus I don't like I don't
like annoying kid tag alongs. I hate that they Fridge Vanessa,
like I put I put out a post that the

(08:28):
way Colossus looks as a character from the first movie
to the second movie could be a metaphor for the
two movies. Yes, and the first one, there's like this
great attention to detail with the CGI, like you have
like oxidation and rust and like dense in his skin
to like give it that sort of tangibility and a
sense of age. And then in Deadpool two he's just

(08:48):
kind of smooth and chrome. Just like that's a metaphor
for the entire movie.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
That pretty much sums it up.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
So it's like I went into this without it's like, yes,
I was excited for to see you know, Hugh Jackminnis, Wolvereen.
I was very excited, but I went in with kind
of low expectations because I feel like Deadpool two kind
of lowered it for me. Where I went in being
like is it going to be kind of cringe? And
I hate to use that word, but like Deadpool two

(09:16):
is kind of cringe in a lot of ways. It's
like it and like that keep that going, and I
feel like they were actually able to make it more
comic bookie than the first two Deadpool movies have ever been,
you know, like where it just feels like a fun
adventure that you're picking up and reading and like and
it just like combines all your favorite characters and has

(09:37):
these fun.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well that was another case against Deadpool two, because Deadpool one,
especially for its time, where like the X Men movies
were still like we don't want to get to comic bookie,
was still pretty like, hey, here's the traditional costume. What
if we just have Colossus look like Colossus? What if
we just do Deadpool's cost we don't make any bones
about it. And then even Deadpool two it kind of
walked back on that, just like, well, we don't want

(10:00):
Cable to really look like like Cable too too much.
We got to ground it too much.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Like and you're just like, ah, come on, like and
I feel like here they lean into like it, like,
let's make this as comic book accurate question mark as possible,
because it's not like you know, the TVA, Yes it's
in the comics, but like that is very much like
an MCU thing that they have like leaned into and

(10:28):
have spanned it upon and I do think it's funny that,
like Deadpool is so connected with the Loki Show at
this point, You're just like that is that's strange.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
You know, like in a in a cool way.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
And I do feel like that they are able to
hear capture that comic book feel with uh with a
lot of characters here. So guys, we can't you can't
really talk about this movie without talking about spoilers. So
I'm gonna say that right now. Is that, you know,
basically summed it up.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
This is it.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
It's a movie that tries to have steaks, doesn't have
it per se, but is a fun movie, you know,
like you know, like I feel like that's my big
hurdle for this movie is the Steaks.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I feel like we have finally hit the fucking wall
on Steaks.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
And by that I mean like, oh, yes, if they
don't do this, the universe falls apart or you know,
we're deleting a world. We've done that in it into
the Spider Verse, across the Spider Verse, low Ki, We've
done it in a lot of It's kind of like
it's the new Steak is not just like, oh, these

(11:42):
persons could die, this person could die. It's the whole
fucking universe will disappear, and they've kind of like hit
that steak and they can't.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Go beyond that.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And that's my main problem with this movie is it's
kind of doing the same stakes as a lot of
you know, recent movie that they've done, where it's like,
oh no, if we don't do fix this, the whole
universe will delete, and like that's yes, it's the ultimate stakes,
but when you use it so often, it feels tired,

(12:12):
you know, like.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I only slightly disagree, but I can't get into why
until we get talk spoilers.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
So that that's my thought is like great blockbuster movie,
lots of fun, Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds, perfect, the good.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Time, And a big thing that I can say without
getting into spoilers is as someone who is cautious about
the idea of this movie just because Logan was such
a great sendoff for Hugh Jackman. While it's not a
better send off than Logan, was it, I see it
as like an optional coda if you want it.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yes, exactly. I think that this is a lot of fun.
You should go see it.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
You should see it as the biggest screen possible, especially
if you're a Marvel fan. But yes, let's talk spoilers,
because I feel like that's kind of the hard part
about this movie that even even the uh, the trailers,
you know, trying to show things off of the trailers,
you would spoil things.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
You know, like and they, you know, they try, and the.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Trailers were pretty good about like hiding their cards until
the very end, when they had not even watched the
final trailer, until after I had already seen the movie,
because I had said that, like, oh, they kind of
have a thing there that they probably should have just
not done. Sure, in spoiler territory now, they mostly kept
it to like it's gonna be dead Pool Wolverine. Yeah,

(13:30):
it looks like we're in the void from Loki. That's
about it. We see the TVA. But then by the
time we get to the final trailer, they're like shore
showing Laura at the end.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
You're like, come on, bro, Like, bruh, yeah, I feel
like them showing off Cassandra Nova.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
You're like, okay, that's fair. She's never been in anything
else before, so they're showing that off.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
H you know, like and we also established just like
we didn't know who the villain of this was going
to be. So there's one.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, And it's funny because she's not the villain of
this of this She's kind of just a villain that
is there, not really the villain of this, because the
real villain of this movie is Paradox, which I thought
was quite interesting actually that like.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, because he's essentially a giant metaphor for Disney.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Exec Yeah right, just step again.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
The reason that the reason why I slightly disagree with
the point of like the stakes not being high and
while you could argue it only works in like a
metaphorical standpoint, yeah, is that this whole thing. And what
I really like about it is that you go into
dead Pool and Wolverine and people have the expectations basically
the same expectations. They have a multiverse of madness where

(14:37):
they just want a bunch of fan theory shit.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, just like, oh.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Man, we're gonna see Tom Cruise iron Man's nuts. I
feel like Stevie.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Did all the things that the fans thought Multiverse of
Badness was gonna do, Like multivers of Madness. They were like, oh,
I'm just gonna be Tom Cruise iron Man, and here
they're like, Yo, there's really Henry Cavill Wolverine.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
In this movie.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
We have him, you know, like yeah, like like like.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
A spoil and that's like but like that's like a
quick thing. It's cool, But that's also kind of the
equivalent of like the John Krasinski read Richards like it
was a popular fan cast that people would always bring up.
So that's fine. But what I like about what we
ultimately do, like the characters that we bring in, is
that it's all underdog stuff from like the Fox movies

(15:23):
no one cares about anymore. In Blade's case, it's New
Line cinema, like all that stuff that like we don't
give any credit anymore in a post MCU world. And
I love that that whole cast of characters is more
about the underdogs because Wade himself being a part of
the Fox universe and opening with the idea of him
trying to be with the MCU and happy Hogan being

(15:44):
like nah yeah Nahn also puts him in that position
where he's just like, oh damn, I don't like to
be treated like should I can only imagine how these
guys feel. Yeah, not all their movies were good. In fact,
some of the people here never had good movies or
or only had the idea of a movie that never
actually came to fruition. But you know what, we matter to.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, we matter to I do think to go more
into the stakes thing. I do think it's a major
problem for this movie because you have two characters who
are unkillable. You know, you have Wolverine, you have dad Pool,
like that is kind of their own whole thing.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
You can't fucking kill them.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
So the steaks there are already like shoot, you gotta
you can't kill these characters. And then you have you're
trying to end the universe, you know, like which is
I just feel like the stakes.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Are really high but not really.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
At the same time, you know, like and I feel
like that's sort of my kind of problem with this
movie is I feel like the stakes are kind of
all over the place, you know, like, and you're just
like when they're like, oh, man, only one person can
hold the the anti matter and the matter at the
end there, you're kind of like, yeah, but you know
it's kind of like they're like, oh, yeah, they'll die

(17:00):
at the end. You're like yeah, but you know, you're like,
come on, not it's dead Pool.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Wolverine.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
We know they're not gonna die, you know, like there's
there's nothing's gonna happen, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
And that's like and as are just kind of main
character privilege in general.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, but they kind of even address it.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
But I do understand what you mean, just like you
have Like it was already bad enough with one unkillable
character as the lead, and now you have two with
double billing.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
So which is it's kind of the fun of it
is that they can't kill each other, but they hate
each other, so like that's the fun of them, like
fighting each other. Is that that's always been the fun
you know, Like is that Wolverine can't die and either
can Deadpool.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Like that's the that is the fun dynamic going on.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
But I do feel like for a movie, it does
ruin the stakes so little, you know, like it's just
kind of like, oh no, they're fine, you know, like
they're good.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
It was funny, yeah, which is already sort of and
ongoing problem that's going to be happening the more they
like sink their teeth into the multi version in against
is that it also already ruined stakes in its own respect.
When if you kill a character off. Your excuse is
just like, ah, we could just whatever, we could just
grab another one from another universe.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
An, which they kind of do here.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
They're like they start off by being like Logan is
the body he's desecrating at the beginning. So Logan is dead,
you know, like the the Logan you know is gone.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
We're just gonna go find another replacement, you know.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Like, and that's kind of the whole premise of this
movie is they're like, oh, the the anchor being, which
I actually really love that concept of the anchor being
for a universe.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I think that's fun.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
It doesn't like, I think it works as a metaphor
for the Fox x Men films falling apart after Jackman left,
But as an actual like universe thing, it makes no
sense because guess what, everyone dies eventually.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, right, so like what the universe just dies after
this one person goes away, you know, like you're like.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Wait, this this only really applies.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
To Logan Man, the Slogan in this universe like briefly
lost his healing factor all of the Wolverine and accidentally
slipped in the shower. So this universe is fallowing in.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
This universe is fucked exactly.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
You're just like it's like I like the idea of it,
but yeah, if you try to dig into it, it's kind.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Of that this whole movie is that like the idea. Yeah,
it's like.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I I think that that's the thing is you kind
of have to turn the steakes the brain off a
little and just have a good time with this movie
because you will. You know, like it's right from the
beginning Deadpool Dancing to bat is it Bacte boys are
in sick?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I can't I can't remember its bye bye Bye.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I think it's Factory Boys and like, uh, and I
love that opening.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I think that was great.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
And like using Logan's skeleton is for fucking wild Wild.
It's just kind of being like, welcome, this is going
to be a bloody, disgusting.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Irreverent movie that does not care about your sappy endings. Yeah, right,
does not care that you cried at the end of Logan.
Does not care if you watch Black and White Logan.
It does not matter.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
But I think that that's kind of like the genius
there is You're kind of like, okay, like we're in
it now, you know, like this is this is happening,
and I really did love Deadpool kind of using the
TVA like technology to visit all the other Wolverines that yeah,
I mean hilarious.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
They inadvertently gave themselves the perfect opening to jump into
the MCU, just based on the way Deadpool two ended.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, right, like they were like, which was you.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Know, whatever time travel Shenanigan's but then it kind of
gave them the perfect unintentional bridge.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yes, which you're like, Okay, I'm right, and I feel
like and I like the idea that like Wade already
went to the MCU and it was just like I'm here, guys,
come ah, let me join, and they're just like.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
No, no, get out, and he just kind of he's
just like, well, I have no purpose now, because even
Wade himself is like sort of drinking the kool aid
of like, and my universe is worthless. Everyone wants to
be part of the Disney universe. No one cares about
these Fox movies anymore. I want to be part of
the MCU, And it's sort of being that metafictional like

(21:26):
lesson of Luss, Like, no, those movies matter to those
are stepping stones to get here.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
And I feel like one of the biggest meta things
that like is has already happened in LOGI, but they
talk about the sacred timeline, you know, like and like
there is, but like, I think that's the best meta
thing going on because like you're basically being like what
Disney believes to be Cannon. That's the sacred timeline. And
then like everyone else can play with whatever they want,

(21:54):
you know, like and kind of do whatever they want
as long as it's not touching the sacred timeline, you know,
Like and I do like that.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's paradox this whole thing, just like, Oh, we like you,
but we don't want your.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Baggage, right, we don't want that, like I do like him.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Come, but everything else, everything else at erase. We don't
need it. It's not making a profit. We don't do
those anymore. Box is Gone.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
The one piece of genius other than that is the
showing Deadpool being held by Thor, and Thor's crying about
Deadpool dying that like he sees that little clip and
it like motivates him to try to like save everything,
you know, Like and I think that that's kind of
a fun little thing where you could have done it

(22:37):
at the end of this movie, like Thor you know,
crying and holding him, but to kind of hold off
and not use that is kind of cool, you know,
like it's you're like.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, like Billy, Okay, Seed maybe for later, Seed.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Seed Maybe I do like that. You're like, Okay, that's
that's fun. You know, like that's that's some fun, like
East Easter eggs for later. Because I feel like that's
the one thing that you know, the marvel Heads will
not like about this movie is a lot of marvel
Heads love that universe building. That that one little bit
that will play somewhere else, you know, like that will

(23:12):
happen in some other movie.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's not what's happening here. You know.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Everything is just like brought up and wiped out, you know,
like brought up, wiped out, and like that's okay. You know,
like that means it actually happened, you know, instead of
being like it's fine, just move on, you know, like
it's just like okay, I like that. You know, like
there's some consequences here, you know, like there you know,
the stakes of the actual plot are not great, but

(23:38):
like there's consequences, you know, like because there's there's you know,
the Fox characters kind of die often here, you know,
like kind of getting wiped out. So but I think
that the I I think the mar I think the
movie does a great job of just having fun with
everything that's going on. I mean the Wolverine, Uh, using

(23:59):
the E v A portals to like visital the Wolverines
was great, just too much.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, that was so much fun, Like even beyond the
Cavil thing. That was fun. I'd loved seeing the John
Byrne like brown suit. That's always been my favorite too,
So I was kind of upset that we went away
from like wait, no, go back, go back, and then
to get it. I like seeing I like seeing the
fucking Wolverine on the X surrounded by skulls. That's a

(24:24):
very famous X Men cover. I love seeing the Age
the Age of Apocalypse one with like the scraggly hair
and like no and like missing a hand.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, and the short comic accurate.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Short, Oh so funny that was already already seeing it
make the rounds. Just like, use this image the next
time people complain about Hugh Jackman's height.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah right, you're just like no, it's just like no,
that's this is the height you think, and it's not great,
you know, like it's not it's not doesn't make any sense,
you know, you're.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Just like, ah, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
But I think that they you know, they go from
there to being like, you know, what do we do
from that? You know, like and I feel like they're
able to keep it fun and moving that like you know,
like they uh, you know, go into the void and
they're like fighting and the void. And I think that
that's kind of fun, you know, like is to use

(25:22):
an MCU location from Loki and like kind of expand
on it and have some fun with it because Loki
does small things with it, and I think that there's
a lot more and they were able to show off
a lot more.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
And there's also there's also nothing in here that contradicts
either season of Loki, because I know you still haven't
seen Loki season two.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I have a part of it, but not all of that.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, Loki season two a bit slow in the middle,
but I really liked it more than the first season really,
And there's nothing in here that actively contradicts that, which
is nice is nice. So it's still so like spoiler
for lokis I guess the way that like culminates is

(26:04):
rather than having the Tva sort of like erase things
willy nilly in order to keep like the singular branch
and making sure nothing branches off instead, uh, the timeline
sort of become like a representation of idrisill or it's
just like no, instead of trying to divert these branches
and clip them, we just need someone at the center

(26:24):
to hold them together, like a great tree. And that
basically is what Loki becomes. Yes, he basically becomes like
a god of the Timelines, which is like a as
sort of like a watcher to like hold it all together.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, I like that. I like that. I I do.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
I will say there's one thing about the Void that
I did I did not like, And I think it's
kind of a stupid part about this movie is the
Mad Max joke hits once, you know, like that they
drive up in the Mad Max stuff, but they kind
of keep the Mad Max theme and look going throughout

(27:01):
the whole thing, And like, I think it's a joke
that hits that one time when they pull up, you know,
like the Mad Max stuff, and I.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Don't think it works beyond that.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
And I think that that's kind of my like one
other than the Stakes is my one other big gripe
about this movie is that they so they use the
Mad Max aesthetic as a joke, then they keep using it,
and then at the end, when we have all these
great characters, like you know, like you have all these
villains that that we could be fighting and uh, you

(27:34):
know from the Fox universe, and instead Blade Electra, you know, Gambit,
everybody's fighting kind of like nondescript Mad Max characters and
I don't give a fuck, you know, like I don't.
That's that's my problem with that whole thing is like, yes,
seeing them fight Toad epic, you know, like seeing them

(27:56):
fight who's the demon guy that poofs like Azel, Yeah, Azel.
It's like it's so cool to like see them back
in fighting. But they're like maybe one or two of
the fight scene and it just kind of goes back
to non discrete even like.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
A Sabertooth thing is done as like an anti climax stroke.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, where they're like, oh, people have been waiting for
this for twenty.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Years, just like oh damn, we brought back Tyler Mayne.
We haven't seen him since the first X Men movie,
and only to just kill him off immediately.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I know.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
It's got it's like fun like that's funny but like
and and feels very Deadpool.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
But it also is very like you know, like but it.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Also shows like a lot of films limitations, just like, oh,
we clearly also couldn't get everyone back either. Yeah, like
we got Pyro's actor back, we got Ray Park back
as Toad, we got Tyler Maine back of Sabertooth. That
ain't Kelly Hugh playing death.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Strike, No, No, I thought.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's not Vinnie Jones playing Juggernaut.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I was like, I know that was sort of weird.
I was like, that's not that's not right.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I I like.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I wonder what the even the same way with it
still works because the entire team is supposed to be
like the Scraps are like the movies that we've kind
of forgotten or in Gambits case, the movie that thankfully
never happened never happened.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
So I mean, yeah, I I and like that's my thing,
is like I want to see them in action doing
cool things again.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
But I do wonder in earlier I wonder who they
originally intended to be in that team, because there is
no way they wanted Elector first. You know, they wanted
Afflex Daredevil before they're just like, well, don't want to
do it.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, they were like that's why they made the joke.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
They were like you can tell they asked Affleck and
he was probably like nah, I'm don with shit. Then
just left him be, which is fair, you know, like
you're like, nah, bringing that would be wild to be
like Deadpool and it's and it's Ben Affleck.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
But I wonder like who else was it, because that's
one of those things where like that shifts a bunch
based on like who you can get. So I wonder,
like original draft, like oh, we had a dream we're
gonna make this movie, Like what version of that? What
version of that team? Looks like?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's true.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I I do like the team at the end. I
think it's cool to see Blade. I think it's cool
to see Wesley Snipe's Blade again. Yeah, Electure is a
weird choice, but it like feels right, you know, like
where it's just like yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
And no one gave a shit. It's funny, you know,
like it's it's great.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
I will say Channing Tatum as as Gambit. I you know,
it's one of those things that we've dreamed about for
years it was supposed to happen, you know, like it
was myself. Yeah, well, it's like, well, I wanted to
see Gambit. I didn't care about Channing Tatum until he taked.
I was really impressed with that accent. I thought it

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was going to be way worse, and it was actually
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I thought, what's you then? Eh, No, I thought it
was good.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I thought it surprisingly, it's not necessarily a bad representation
of a k accent because the agent accent is tricky.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It is this. It is this interesting like hybridization of
like a Southern accent and and you could even say
Southern accent. There are a lot of Southern dialects and
like French, and it is really hard to pull off.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
In fact, I've heard like people who are like from
that area talk about how like there's only been a few,
like even Gambit voice actors that have really nailed it.
They must to say, like, oh, Chris Potter specifically from
the nineties Scartoon does a pretty good job. Other people
are kind of so so. But I just felt like, though,
I just don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Hmm, It's like it does it shouldn't be coming out
of his mouth.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, the accent isn't necessarily like doesn't isn't necessarily bad.
I just don't buy the performance at all, just like
it seems like it seems like an actor trying to
be Gambit.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, I agree with you there.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I I do think seeing him do it makes you
be like, so that's why they didn't do a full
movie with just Gambit and Channing Tatum. Yeah, and you're
like that, You're like, it's fun to see this. It's
fun to see him in the costume. Costume looks great.
I'll give all the credit there. Costume looks fucking awesome,
and he and he moves amazing, Like I feel like

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Channing Tatum as Gambit moving around fighting, looks and and feels.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And they understood the power set this time around, which
is more than I can say for like Taylor Kitsch
and X Men origins.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, you're just like, it's.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Just like, oh, it's like nothing about Channing Tatum's like
were convinced me that he would be a good Gambit
And this did not convince me either actually having seen it,
and like, oh, despite Lauren Schuler Donner for years trying
to threaten him being Gambit, ever since like X Men
two and it just never got off the ground. Just like, well,
I'm glad that never happened, although I do love the

(32:50):
joke that, like Gambit's just like, oh, we all ended
up in the Void and Gambits just like, I don't know,
I think I was born here.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I think I was born here, and I like that,
Like the void is kind of this creative space that like,
you know, some ideas go to just drift around in,
you know.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Like I kind of like that.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
I don't know, I kind of like that, but I
wouldn't want a whole movie. It's like I would have
loved Gambit being on an X Men team, you know,
Chantain Gambit being on X Men team and just like
being there, or even if he just showed up in
Wolf Wolverine Origins or something like that, that because he
was supposed to. That was like one of those things
where he was supposed to be in Wolverine Origins and

(33:29):
it never happened.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
And like, I mean, that movie's fucking garbage, But like.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's X Men org And again I have to emphasize
because people always get the name wrong, it's X Men
Origins Wolverine. That one X Men Origins.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Is right, you're right, You're correct. They they didn't have
the balls to just call it Wolverine. They were like, no,
nobody knows what a wolverine is. Everyone knows what an
X Men is.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Well, it was less that and more like X Men
Origins was supposed to be its own sub brand, like
it's supposed to be like X Men Origins, Wolverine x
Men Origins. Magneto and most of that script got repurposed
for First Class, which is why Magneto is the best
part of her classes exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Just like that.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
They've been taking these ideas and shaping them into something
else for a very long time.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I don't know I would have.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I would have liked to see him in something else,
But at the same time, I like that it happened here.
I got to see it. It's it felt like something special,
you know, to see the Channing Tatum as.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
The real, the real unexpected one was Blade. I would
have ruled that out, yeah, mostly because especially specifically for
a Deadpool movie, because it is very well known Wesley
Snipes and Ryan Reynolds didn't really like each other on
the set of Blade three.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Really, that's yes, yes, I have heard that where they
like like.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Blay three Lay three one is not good, but it
had a very uh tumultuous production.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yes, yeah, and it sounded.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
And that mostly came down to, like, to be honest,
Wesley Snipes at that point in his career kind of
being a prima donna.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I had no respect for David Goyer as a director
compared to like Stephen Norington for the first one or
gear Mouth That's Horror for the second movie. Yeah, And
like Ryan Reynolds said, like most of the time he'd
even acts, like with Wessey, he was mostly acting with
like his double.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Ah, that's crazy, Like it got it got bad.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
So I didn't think they'd be able to like just
squash the beef for him to actually show up. So
I kind of ruled that out. And plus Wesley Snipe
still acts, but he seems like as far as like
action stuff is concerned, Yeah, he was like the man
is middle aged, he can't do all that shit anymore.
I think he did a great job here, I think,
but it was cool seeing him although he looks so
naked without his coat. I mean, where's his coat, where's

(35:33):
his sword?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I feel that I the outfit was fine. It kind
of looked like the other outfits he wore underneath his
coat in his own movies. I'm like, where's his coat?

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, where's goat.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
One thing I will say about that team, I did
like Laura being there. I think that's a great emotional
like connection to Logan and actually has like a great
ending to Logan in some ways. But why did we
not see her claws come out? Like so they have
the time, but no they're out. Why did we not
have a close up of them coming out? Why do

(36:04):
we not have a good shot of her fighting with them?
It's just like they kind of do it and then
they don't show you it, And I know it's not
like important, but it's like it's kind of the whole
thing is that her claws are different than Logans, and
like you could show that off and have fun with that,
and I felt like they just didn't show off her,

(36:26):
like you saw her fighting and and you know, scratch
me bluff, but like no close ups of her clause
or anything.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
It makes her feel like just kind of like the
background ensemble on this team as opposed to arguably the
most important person here.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yes, exactly exactly, And I feel like that was sort
of the issue there is You're like, cause she fixes everything,
you know, like she's the one who throws the helmet,
so she's like she's integral to the battle.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
She's the only one who does something important.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
You know, like, and it's still like, why are we
not playing her up more? You know, like why are
we not using her? I feel like that was that
was the sort of weird thing going on there.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I was like, ah, like, but I do.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Think one thing that I will say I was complaining
about the Mad Max you know, fighting sequences, but I
I will say the action in this movie is pretty
top notch. I do think it's I think that's the
one thing you can really credit this movie with is
the action is pretty fantastic.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Like, yeah, it's it's pretty impressive. Which is good because
that was like one of Deadpool two's problems, Like it
was that solid set pieces, but you didn't have someone
like Tim Miller working on it, whose background was in
VFX so he made it look really good. You had
David Leach instead, who was one of the co directors
for the first John Wick, So, like, the choreography was good,

(37:52):
but as far as the VFX were concerned, that's where
it got a little wonky.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
That's where it fell apart here.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I feel like it's kind of a good medium.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
I feel like the Deadpool Wolverine fight that they fight
in the minivan, I feel like that that's a great fight,
that's awesome and like just fun.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And that was like the best bit of performance from
Jackman in that whole movie, where he just like fucking
rails into Wade and just like tears him apart as
a character on the most basic level. Right, and as Shallows,
this movie could be on vapor and how that is
that sort of comes off just by presis. But yeah,

(38:32):
and as Shallows, this movie could come off. There are
some genuine stuff for Jackman at chew on in this.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I think so too.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I think that's why he came back. I feel like
he knew there was something here a little deeper.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And I also kind of like that even amongst Wolverines,
this wolverine's kind of a loser.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yes, right, he's kind of the worst.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And I like that he's sort of even if it's
not technically the logan that you know we've grown up
with in other movies, this is sort of like this
is the platonic ideal Wolverine for us to use as
a story point, like the representation of just like everything
we love about Wolverine.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
The other fight scene that I think really is impressive
is the Deadpool Wolverine versus the Deadpools. I feel like, yes,
they all regenerate, so like it's sort of a like
a nothing happening there, but in reality it's it's such
a great scene.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
It's so it's so well done.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
The one wide shot as they move forward kind of
reminiscent of Old Boy, and I feel like, and you know,
dead and Daredevil also references that, and you know, you
could also say the Raid does that too, so it's
like they're all referencing Old Boy. But I feel like this,
I feel like this takes it in a fun different way,

(39:51):
and I think that it really plays well.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I did like all the dead Pools.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I thought that that was going to be kind of dumb,
you know, like to have all the Deadpools show up,
because it's like, you know, it is his multiverse movie,
so of course more Deadpools had to show up, but
they kind of just played it as like here he
goes he's gonna fight them all, you know, like the
sort of thing, And I think.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, it's a it's a better way to write your
way around, Like, damn, we need nameless goons to fight,
just so we can have nameless goons to fight and
show off some cool action. And it's a better way
to do it than to just have you all nameless goons,
Like oh, what if there are a bunch of Deadpools.
That's at least nixes it up right.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
And I think that the actors of all the Deadpools
are a lot of fun. I feel like that might
be some of the best cameos in the whole movie,
because other than we haven't brought up Johnny Storm, I
feel like that might be one of the funniest cameos
in this fucking movie. Is that I told I was

(40:52):
right there with Deadpool being like, oh my god, they're
gonna do like some off brand Captain America here, you know,
Like I was like, oh shit, And then for it
to be Johnny fucking Storm, I was like, holy shit.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Like I literally was.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Like, yeah, I had friends say the they news Johnny
Storm right that that didn't cross my mind. They actually
got me with that At first, what I thought they
were going to do was going to have because they
because the first hint that it might not be cap
is like him kind of swearing and being kind of
a douche. But my mind didn't go Johnny Storm. My went.

(41:25):
My mind went, it's like, oh, are we gonna do
like a douchey sort of like wink wink, ultimate Captain
America here? Really funny?

Speaker 3 (41:33):
That would be funny, And I like there was tons
of thoughts that ran through my mind when he first
showed up on screen. I was like, I was like,
it could just be a Captain America, a captain for
another country, you know, like that's what they're gonna do
or something like that, and uh, it was It was
way funnier to have a very pissed off John Storm.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
I thought that was that.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Was very great and even better that Pyro just takes
him out and that he just bounces off ship and
falls to the ground kind of reminiscent of the first
Pool movie. And you're just like, You're like, that's amazing,
you know, like that was fucking funny and.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And as that very comic book aspect of just like
you know, whenever they pin characters against each other, just
like who would win in a fight, Pyro or the
human torch is just like, well, Pyro can just manipulate flames,
so you could just pull the flame away.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Dude, du flame off like like and it's done. I
thought that was very comic, Bookie and fun there. But
I you know, I think that those are some of
the best cameos there.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
But I feel like the.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
The Deadpool cameos are quite astounding in a lot of ways.
So you have Blake Lively as as Lady Deadpool, which
I was like.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Which I figured as soon as as soon as they
showed like Lady Deadpool like in the marketing stuff, I'm like,
that's probably Blake Lively.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
It's probably Blake Lively.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
And especially when she showed up to the premiere in
her like red jumpsuit that she was wearing there, to me,
that was like, yeah, she's dead Lady Deadpool and it's
her being like look at my like this is my
elegant Lady Deadpool dress, you know, Like yeah, when she
did that at the mirror, Peggy the Dog is dog
Pool was fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Uh, you gotta give it there.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
I did think it was funny that Ryan Reynolds used
his own daughter as kid Pool. I thought that was
pretty pretty good. Wild that's Nathan Fillion is Headpool. That
is I was zombie dead Pool. I was like, are
you shitting me? Like that is crazy? When he started talking,
I was like, is that fucking Nathan Fillion? It was

(43:35):
like my first thought was I was.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Like, I mean, that's always my reaction to the name
time Nathan Fillion is doing a voice and stuff. It's like,
that fucking Nathan Fillion.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
I love Nathan Philly, Matth McConaughey as cowpooled Cowboy debt.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Pool is crazy.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Like I was like, are you like that feels like
a Star Wars thing where like they had Daniel Craig
as one of the Stormtroopers.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
You're just like Stormtroopers. Yeah, absolutely, You're like, what the
like we even have like Deadpool twenty ninety nine, I'm like, damn,
that's a real deep cut.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Anyone remembers Deadpool twenty ninety nine amongst like the twenty
ninety nine like sub brand of characters, right, shit, the
only one I felt was missing. I'm like, damn, the
only thing we were missing was Evil Deadpool from the
end of Daniel Way's run. Yes, right, like the Deadpool
that's made up of all of Deadpool's leftover parts.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That would have been cool.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I did like that there was welsh Pool, who's played
by a famous soccer player. They have Canada Pool, you know, like, uh,
that's played by Alex Kush, which is like the guy
who did stunts for Deadpool and pretty much everything you know,
like he is the Deadpool you see for stunts throughout

(44:47):
pretty much all the excellent movies Deadpool movies. Like, so
it's cool that he got like a spot there. You're like,
that's that's fucking sick. But I think that that that
Deadpool scene is a lot of fun and adds a
lot this movie.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
You're kind of like, all right.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Now speak of the kind of cameos, but like actors
in the movie, what did you think of Cassandra Nova,
Because I know you've read the comics with Cassandra Nova
in it, and I've read in fact stuff she said,
but never there it is but never.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Like those of you watching the video version of the podcast,
I'm holding up the new x men Omnibus, which is
the entire Grant Morrison run on a new X Men
in one big fucking phone.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Book, huge huge grant kept writing, just kept.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Going, And I recently went through the entire run again
because X Men ninety seven was pulling elements from that run.
It's moving beyond, just like the stuff from the eighties
and nineties, which is cool, And so it made me
be like, well, I've had that fucking tone on my
shelf for the longest time. I should actually dive into
it so I can reread it again. And I did.

(46:00):
And I think in terms of demeanor and menace and
even like some like power set stuff, I think Emmacorn
does a really good job playing at Cassandra Nova, like
they have like this genuine sort of menace. While they
obviously don't go too too weird with it, because Cassandronova's
whole deal is fucking weird.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Fucking but I do think that they do a great
job of.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Like capturing that weird with her reading people's minds with
the fingers in their face. I think that effect came
out so good, like it looks so good, especially when
she does the paradox and then drags him around with it.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I thought that was.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Stuff like with the hand through, like the face and stuff.
I'm like, oh, that is straight out of the books.
Although it is, it is funny. And there has been
like this ongoing joke of like MCU hates old women
because we keep making all like the old Crone, like
Marvel characters like young and hot, all of them.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
All of them. It's like even Madam Webb, it's like
she's known as like an old woman. And now we
have Dakota.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
You're just like, we have to make no young and
hotta gotta do young and hot got to do it.
And this is because I haven't watched The Crown. This
is the first thing I've seen Emma corn in. Even
though I know that they play Princess Diana on The
Crown or like the young Princess Diana.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
I haven't gotten far into The Crown.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
I have one or two seasons, but I haven't gotten
to Princess Diana.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I'm not sure what.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
They play Princess Diana like younger. And then in the
subsequent season it's Elizabeth to Becky who plays her old
right right, right, yeah, so that's the only So this
is the first thing I've seen them in, and it's
a great first impression. It's just it's just the young
and hot thing just continues to make me laugh.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
You're just like, wait, wait a minute, Yeah, what else
has she been in? Yeah? The the Oh.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, she did The Policeman with Harry Styles and they
did Brief and oh yeah the Crown, and I guess
she was in pennies Worth but Pennyworth, but I'm not
fucking watching that.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
You can't catch me watching that.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Okay, yeah, someone's knocking on the door.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
But and then the other one she's known for is
something called Lady Chat Lily's Lover, which I have not seen,
but it does look pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I might Mary might like that. Might have to watch
that one, But I I did. I think she was
a good villain.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I just think she's not the real villain here, and
like she's just kind of used as like a force,
and I think that.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
That works well.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
But it's definitely like interesting to like kind of undercut
her with paradox, you know, like it's just like ooh,
you know, like but I think her like pulling apart
Johnny Storm was fucking sick and like.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
You're like, all right, Frank, yes, let's have a little
pause here, just because they're gonna keep sucking, knocking and
bothering me.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Okay to pause, a little pause, so I will just
talk about that. I think that the effect of Johnny
Storm falling apart into a blood bag was not great.
I will say that's the one special effects that I
did not like. I think that that was kind of

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poorly done. I think it's a cool idea. I just
don't think it looked good. But overall, I will say
the special effects in this movie are quite good and
well done and worth, you know, like the big budget
that this movie has because I think that, you know,

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we get a lot of MCU movies where they have
these gigantic budgets and then look like ers and you're
just like why so I feel like Deadpool it kind
of rekindles that like good CGI that Marvel is known for,
you know, like and and you know, and they don't
want to be known for like thor the floating kid head,

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you know, like and lots of other just like weird
and questionable uh FX that have happened throughout the Model Universe.
I think they did a good job of being like, hey, yeah,
like the this is this looks great the whole time.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Now, And I mean you got to give credit to
Deadpool suit.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
It just looks It just looks great, you know, like
it doesn't matter what variation of it is.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
It it really is quite good.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
I'll wait till the sean to talk about Wolverine's uh suit,
but I did love.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
It so it uh.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
I do think it's funny that, like James Marrigold, the
director of Logan, it was con on this movie to
make sure that like it did not interfere with his movie,
because they didn't want to disrespect Logan. And I think that, well,
they wanted to disrespect it, but not in like a
like ruin it for that ruin that movie, which I
think that they do a good job of not. I

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feel like that movie still stands and it still does well,
uh and doesn't feel negated by Deadpool and Wolverine, which
I do think it's funny that is called Deadpool and Wolverine.
I guess in interviews he said that it was just
supposed to be called Deadpool and Friend, and they were
just gonna just kind of ride it out until you

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saw Wolverine, like just kind.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Of do it, just doing it until they couldn't. But
it feels like.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Ryan Reynlds had a lot of ideas of what this
movie could be, because he talked about that he wanted
this movie to be.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Called you might have to edit around that.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
No, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
I tried to talk throughout the whole thing, and I
was just talking that that they they did name this
movie beforehand, because there was two things they tried to
do before this movie came out. They called it Alpha Cop,
which was supposed to be two Yeah, I heard buddies,
you know, in brains, and then like halfway through the
movie would just be Deadpool, you know, like twenty minutes in, which.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I think is not a funny idea, but it wouldn't
they get.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I'm not sure how well it would have done for
the box office, just because you know, you need to
drum up.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
The hype for it. Yeah, and I think I also sort.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Of miss I do also miss experimental shit like that.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Yes, I do think it was funny that after that
they just were until the Super Bowl, they just called
this movie Deadpool and Friend.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
So they weren't calling it and Wolverine.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
They were just calling it and Friend, which I I
and I guess right up till the Super Bowl, they
were like they were like yeah, yeah, and then they
sent it to the studio and the studio was like, yes,
fucking stupid, just call it dead Pool Wolverine and they
were like, ah shit, you know, like you're just like, yeah,
that's that's fair.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
The only thing I wish is that I wish they
gave Wolverine like his actual style, like logo he has
in his own comics, as opposed to Wolverine also being
in like the Deadpool font.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, it would have been more cock book eepe and
like team you know, like it's kind of slamming them together.
I was saying when you were gone, I was saying,
I do think that this is a high mark for
good CGI in the Marvel universe. I think there's a
lot of good CGI moments in this movie, you know,
when you can look back on Black Widow or the

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floating head in Thor and like lots of other just
bad CGI moments that Marvel has kind of badly got
a reputation for.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
And and here the only bad.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Effects I would say is and I did like the moment,
but I think that the FX isn't great.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Is the pulling Johnny Storm apart.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
I think it's a cool moment, but he doesn't look perfect,
you know, like it doesn't look right and what and
it falls apart and it just kind of looks like
CGI bones on the floor instead of like.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Really yeah, you know. Like there's also a bit like
at the end of that big like old boy action
sequence where they jump out of the bus and they
have like their big like Poe's moment when when they land,
you could tell that Hugh Jackman is completely CGI and
he's kind of idling like he's a video game character.
He's just doing like this.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
He's doing it like I thought that was kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
I was like, I was like, what the fuck like,
But I like that they say it's a lot better
CGI here in this movie.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I do like movement wise, he's doing more like comic
booky Wolverine stuff, like he's really low to the ground
and like scampering around like a little goblin. Sometimes.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
I like that though, Like especially when they're they're starting
to fight.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
In the uh or.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
It's like in the middle of the fight of them
fighting inside the van the Honda Odyssey, they they he
gets on the ground and crawls at him, and I
fucking came in my pants the minute he did, I
was like, I was like, yes, that's fucking amazing, you know,
like cause like that is you know, even if you
grew up watching the cartoons or you just read the comics,

(55:06):
Wolverine fucking cross you know, like he fucking gets on
his hands and legs.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
And runs, you know, like, yeah, he's a little beast man.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
And I feel like they captured that a little bit
more here and I really did enjoy that, Like it
was just like, Okay, he's moving like Wolverine here instead
of some instead of Brian Singer being like, move like
a person, not a comic book character, and you're like,
we're making a comic book movie, you know, like what
the fuck are you talking about? Like, I think it's
wild that on the set of the first X and

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movies they were like, no, you can't read comics, Like
do not read the X meon comics.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I don't want you reading the X Men comics.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
And you're like, first of, disrespectful, first off, disrespectful, true,
what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Like like so we also not unexpected from also not
unexpected from a movie from the year two thousand. Yeah,
but also we have to remember that this was like
this was post Batman and Robin. Yeah, right, So even
though we joked that like Batman and Robin was the
death of comic book movies, even though Blade came out

(56:09):
a year later, it's still in that like, Okay, what
worked was dark, black leather and mostly night shoots, and
we just keep it at that. We don't want to
go to comic bookie because that's what happened with Batman
and Robin, just like this is a separate issue.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
But sure, yeah, you're like, no, that went more the
nineteen sixties TV show more than it went comic books.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I would say, yeah, that's the thing. It's in the
same way that like if a single female superhero movie
doesn't do well, they're just like it's just people just
don't want to see female superhero and you're like, like, no,
they just don't want.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
To see shit.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Yeah, that's really it, because I would say my one
argument for the Miss Marvel movie is like, and the.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
What was the sequel?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
What's the Captain Marvel and the Marvels?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
The Marvels.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
What I don't like about that is what they've kind
of like, I love Carol Danvers. I think that that
character is fantastic. What they do with that character. Nothing
fucking nothing, you know, like they don't do anything cool
with it.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
They don't make any.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Carol Danvers is known for her bold decisions, you know,
like like she's like Captain America where it's like some
of the big character moments of her is making a
bold fucking decision that maybe other characters don't like. And
they just don't do shit with that here, you know,
like they don't make shit. They're kind of like she's
a Captain in demeanor only than like captain as a person.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
And I feel like, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
The reason why people aren't excited for that character, you know,
like it's just not the same.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah, That's that was my thing that I always had
to reiter rate back when that first movie came out.
It's just like I've always liked Carol Danvers, especially like
I was introduced to her because of X Men stuff, right,
And it's one of those things where like she has
no dimension in the MCU. It feels like she's just
there for like little girls to project onto.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Please don't get us wrong in that I want a
fully female led like Conquer movie. Absolutely, The Marvels is
not it, and neither was Captain Marvel. You know, like
I feel like they both missed the mark and pretty
early missed the mark, Like you don't need to finish
the fucking movie to be like that's bad, you know,

(58:21):
like this is not a you know, like even if
you add more Marvels, it doesn't make it more fun
if they all don't do anything, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
And the lesson from that isn't to be like, well,
I guess these female led superhero movies don't work as
opposed to like the multitude of male led superhero movies
that are just allowed to fail and then reboot and
try again.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Yeah, just like fuck, there's so many and we never go, well,
it can't have a male lead.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
So there's a representative of the entire sex no more,
no more.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Like it's fucking insane.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Uh, but to bring it, to bring it back to
the movie, I think that uh that.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Dead Pool Wolverine. I feel like it's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Fans service a lot of love, especially almost more than
you would think for the Fox movies. You know, like
it's almost like they really do love the Fox movies here,
Like I think that's because they made.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Under Yeah, they made them, Like we forget that, Like,
we we praised the MCU so much, but you forget
like where this stuff started. There is no MCU without Blade.
There is no MCU without those first like like attempts
like the X Men movies, which was the first one
that kind of found success and had a long running franchise.
But the fact that those movies ran for so long,
like even with the Peaks and Valleys without having a

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hard reboot is still impressive. Hugh Jackman having that record
for like consecutively playing the character without being replaced, right,
It's impressive, and we forget that. Like Kevin Fige as
a producer got his start on the X Men movies
before Marvel Studios was even a thing.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Mm hmm. That's why I brought up the conk book
thing before.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
But Kevin Figi's credited as giving uh hu Jackman and
Wolverine comics on the set of X Men.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
To be like, this is what he's like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
You know, like, first off, why would you take a
role without reading the fucking comics?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
But you know, money's money, I guess, so you take that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I disagree. An actor is there to act. They don't
need to be a fan to know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yeah, but I yes and no. I feel like, yes,
it's a job, they're doing a job, like, you know,
like you need to make money. But I do feel
like when you're going into a role that has so
many fans of it, you should check out what makes
it that, or.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
You get makes it so, or you get fucking Halo.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
You know, like it's like season two may even better
because they fired the people who made the bad decision
in the first season. But you can't save a sinking
ship that's got a hole, a huge hole in it
and buy a huge hole. I mean so many master
chief ass shots and a helmet shot, you know, Like
I never thought I would say.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
That's on the production team standpoint, that's not on the actors.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Yes, true, true, But I feel like the actor himself
was defending the helmet being taken off, and you're just like, buddy,
if you were a fucking if you play video games once,
it'd be like, hell, no, I'm never fucking taking this
helmet off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
You can't make me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
But that's just that's just typical actor defending, defending their paycheck.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Yeah, I will say it's like very Henry Cavill where
it's like he realized that the Witcher was doing weird
things and not sticking to the source material and not
doing anything from the games, you know, like and just
kind of we're doing their own thing, and that's why
he stepped away. I feel like, you know, some people
have some integrity like that where they're just like, yeah,

(01:01:38):
this is fun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
But I feel like this, like fan entitlement is like
every actor needs to be that. They need to. They
need to know the source material, they need to be fans,
they need to. You need to be a fan of
something to be able to work on. It's just like, no,
not even remotely true.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Yeah, I do think that with giant fandoms attached to things,
you should check out what why they're fans. I feel
like there's a you're making a property, you should know
why people are into that property, you know, Like I
feel like that's that's how I brought up that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
But you could also point at Uncharted.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
It's like if you had played those games anybody on
the set, you wouldn't fucking make.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
The choices you did, you know, like you would.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
It's like it's very just Hollywood being like, Okay, so
we have this property, let's use it, you know, like,
and I've seen clips of this game. I can remake
that clip from this game instead of being like, what
made this fucking work and actually made it popular?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
You know, like that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
I feel like that's the big thing is that people
are missing that, like why did this get big and popular?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Why are you working on this for millions of dollars?

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
You know, like what it's like you need to know
that instead of being like, well, here's the money, you know,
like and you're just like that's fine, you know for
somebody like Harrison Ford who's like, yeah, I'll act stupid
for money, you know, Like, but at the same time,
even he kind of understands who Red Hulk is, you know,
like and what he's doing there, you know, like more

(01:03:12):
than the average bear, you know, like and I feel
like that's the difference, you know, like is like, yeah,
he can make his money, but he then he still
knows what he's trying to accomplish there with.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
With like with thunder Ross there and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, but that's even assuming like they want to go
that route. Yeah, true, because these are still all adaptations
at the end of the day. Yeah, you think Wesley's
types was fucking reading Blade comics when he made no,
when they made Blade, No, that movie completely reinvented that
character because no one cared.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
No, no one cares.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
But I feel like, you know, you get you get
great things, like you know, Batman the animated series, when
you bring fans in to work on the property, you know,
like you know, you get Bruce tim who's actually working
on you know, Batman comics and and he's doing the show,
and you're kind of like, yeah, that's the that's the difference,

(01:04:06):
that's the jump, you know, like, and that's why I
had a little bit of hope for Green Lantern.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
On the same token, you can also get great things
that feel holy themselves from people who are kind of
marginal fans at best. All of the Nolan.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Movies true, And I feel like, you know, you have
Jeff John's writing the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Green Lantern movie with Ryan Reynolds, and that was fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Bad, you know, like that that's like, that's it's like,
so you have the one of the greatest Green Lantern
writers of all time and he still fucks up the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
You know. Like like although from what I hear, like
you know, script a screen, there were a lot of
behind the scenes muddling that mess with that. Yeah, it's
always never it's always never the right way to like
criticize the script or the screenwriter based on like the
amount of like variables that happened in the production.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Yeah, it's it is kind of hard to criticize a screenwriter,
I like with these type of adaptions because like, sure
they may have done a great job of the original script,
but that does not mean that happened on screen. You know,
like that's not exactly you know, it takes a lot
of ingredients to get to that point. So it's like,
you know, lots of things you're like, is that the

(01:05:17):
script or is that the people doing it? You know,
like that's yeah, that's a hard thing to choose.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
That's how Frank Darrebann felt about the Kenneth Branna frankens
Son because he wrote that he's just like best script
I ever wrote, worst movie that ever got made from
what I wrote.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Yeah, And it's like and he's he's been scarred so
much that that's the reason why he left Walking Dead
is they like kind of took it away from him
and he was like, no, I'm fucking leaving, you know,
Like it's like Derebon knew when he's not in control,
they just fucking run with it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
And he's just like, Okay, never mind, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
You know, like uh fuck that, you know, like and
then but still, what are we on like the fifth
show for Walking Dead? You know, like I guess, you know,
like it's still happens, you know, still people are watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
So ah, like what can I say?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
AMC is only fucking thing now? It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
It is ridiculous. They're like, we could just turn this
into our one thing we do. And you're like okay,
You're like all right, except.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Do they zombies before this show started?

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Do they do Yellowstone? Or is that some other network?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Is that stars Yellowstone is Paramount?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I think Paramount is, yes. I forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
I forget like what cable network they put it on
because it's a it's a big boomer show, so it
definitely has a cable broadcasts.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
It's exactly what that show is, just a big boomer show.
It's like, I I like the actors in it. I'm
just like, yeah, this is this is for the boomers,
you know, kind of like how his his show?

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
What what was his movie that just came.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Out that bomb Horizon Horizon, it's supposed to be the
start of his gigantic epic three part maybe four part epic,
and it did terror blak.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Like so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
I wonder if IMBD says how much it made, but
it is it did not mean to well, Okay, so
budget was one hundred thousand opening weekend, it made eleven
thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Holy shit, that's bad.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
That's bad. WI thirty three thousand, so fucking bad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
You know, I'm also not surprised, like I like Kevin Costners,
like directorial stuff like that is what wolves. But you
can barely convince people to go see a two hour movie,
let alone a fucking like three to four hour western
that's gonna be a big of something that's not a
big ten poll because the fomo they're afraid that they're
gonna miss out and not be able to talk about
it with people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Definitely one of those movies that we're gonna see an
article in a couple of months, being like Horizon did
terrible in theaters, but is crushing on Netflix now that
it's there, you know, like like they do with so
many fucking movies, They're like this twenty twenty three disaster.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Is doing extremely well on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
You're like, yeah, because people don't have anything to watch
on Netflix, so they're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Which is great, but it also doesn't really help anyone
because it's not like anyone's getting residuals because of the
streaming numbers on Netflix, which they never reveal anyway. Mm hmmm,
you're just like that would that used to be the difference,
Like you could recoup your costs on home media. There
are plenty of movies that like that was basically Kevin
Smith's career for like most of the time, where it's
like it didn't do well at the box office, but

(01:08:26):
it always had its market on home video. It found
its fan base, it found its audience, and was able
to pretty much recoup its costs and make a button
make a profit because of that. But now that because
we've emphasized home media less and less over the years,
now it's just like unless it does well in that
like very limited time in theaters, you're just kind of fucked.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
I am excited for what is his what's his next
movie called that he's producing it, I don't think he's
uh directing it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
What is that one called?

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
With the movie theater one that's coming out, uh Kevin Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Oh, the the four four thirty movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Yeah, something like that. I think that that could be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I hope it's not just uh, you know, a self
restental sort of thing. But I think that it could
be really good. I could be really I'll have to
wait and see is basically it. But I think that,
you know, back to the point is Wolverine and Deadpool.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
I think that this is a very standalone movie.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
You will not be you know, like I don't think
other than other Deadpool movies will be referencing it, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Yeah it is, and it is an insular like you
can you can watch it not knowing much. But if
you know anything about like the comic book movie like
Slate in industry for like the last twenty years, it
makes it much funnier.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Yes, I will say, you know, you know, Mary went
with me and those are my mom, mom, and my brother,
and like it's funny because Mary doesn't know too much
about you know, Deadpool and Wolverine. So she came out
being like, so why can they always regenerate? And I
was just like, that's their powers. I was like I
was like wait, and she's like, well, that kind of
kills the all fight scenes with them. I'm like, or

(01:10:17):
it just makes it fun, you know, like it's like
you know, like that they just she was, but she
was very confused why nice Pool did not regenerate, and
that's what threw her off. Was like she was like,
why doesn't so he died, but everyone else regenerates, and
I'm just like, yeah, that's kind of the weird joke
there is that nice Pool doesn't regenerate, you know, like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
That's that multiversal one. Someone got the short end of
the stick.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I did think nice Pool was very funny. I thought
that was I thought that was a very good joke.
I was like, okay, yeah, it's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I can I can tap on the fourth wall too,
looks at camera. The proposal is that? What do you
think I do?

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I thought that was so good. I fucking died there
and he's like the proposal, like s.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
It's we haven't really talked about it since we were
talking about we talked about the like the multiversal like
seeing all the different Wolverines at the beginning, uh, seeing
it in motion? How'd you feel about this costume?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Yeah, after I started to talk about it when you
were gone, and then I stopped myself. I was like, no, wait,
hold on, because I think dead Deadpool suit has always
looked good. I think that that even since Deadpool won,
this suit is maybe one of the best superhursuits we have.
You know, like it is just uh, it's an it's

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an amazing suit. So to make Wolverine and kind of
dead Pool it up, I think that they did a
good job. And seeing it in motion, it looks and
moves a lot better than it does when you freeze
frame because I feel like the the the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Whole all the set photos and stuff we saw before.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Yeah, it's like the horns on the head. When it's
not moving, it kind of looks like too much. But
then when he is moving, you're like, oh, that's perfect.
You know, like when he's when he's in motion, it fits.
It makes sense. It's just when you're seeing it from
like not the angle you're supposed to, you're kind of
like it's sort of strange, you know, Like, but I

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think overall, when he's when he's fighting, when he's moving it,
you're like, yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
And it looks I think the proportions are also just
a little off because they had the sleeves. Yeah, and
then they got rid of the sleeves. But because they've
got rid of the sleeves, they got rid of the
shoulder pads too, And you're like, oh no, you're kind
of fucking with proportions of a silhouette when you get
rid of the shoulder pads too, and it makes the
mask like seem a little too big.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Yes, I think that might be, like all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
These design choices are intentional. Yes, But here's a question,
because I've been hearing this since the first Deadpool movie
came out. Uh, when we get to Brave in the ball,
do you want a Batman cow with those style white eyes?

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
I mean I like it, you know, Like is my
thing is I think that Deadpool looks perfect, you know,
like sure you can't see some emotion in the eyes,
it looks great, you know, like and you can emote
with the bottom half of your face really well, you know,
like and I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Like they or just with your body language.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
It's like there's plenty of like Batman scenes, even in
the animated series, where you don't see their eyes, but
you can tell what Batman's thinking, you know, like his
eyes aren't changing, but you're like, you're like, I know
what that man's thinking, you know, like, and I feel
like they do that here. It's like Deadpool's wearing the mask,
paradox is talking to him, saying he's going to destroy
the universe, and even though you can't see his face

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per se, you can tell he's pissed off and everything
Paradox is saying is fucked up to him, and like,
and that's like the whole Like that's the argument right there,
is that like Deadpool is able to emote even with
the mask on, you know, like, and it's able to work.
I do think these eyes look really do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
I am glad, And I'm sure part of this is
just the benefit of I either keep the mask on,
which is just easy to put on my face, or
I have to go through the burn makeup process in
the chair for a little bit. So it's just easier
to just put the mask on. So I'm glad that
there was that benefit because we have Ryan Reylds keeping
the fucking mask on, which always drives me crazy. For

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any other adaptation even here, like I knew from the jump,
I'm like, oh man, we're only going to get the
Wolverine Cow for a little bit. Yeah, And sure it's
cool that it kind of builds up to it, and
that's a cool moment when he does finally put it on.
But it's just like, God damn it, keep the fucking mask.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
On on, Like, God damn it. They wouldn't just be
walking around without it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
I mean Wolverine sort it does in a lot of
a lot of his works, but like you know, like
come on, put the mask on. You're like, let's let's
do it. I I do think he looks great in this.
I think Hugh Jackman is surprisingly still fantastic at all
the action and looks great on screen. I think he
I think the reason why you see this is because

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Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, and they deliver the whole time.
I feel like that's that's the number one thing is
that they're they're funny together. It works well as that
straight man wacky guy sort of dynamic that's, you know,
like the reason why you love them together, and it
works well. I think overall it's a surprising movie because

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it could have been, you know, nothing burger of a movie.
And I think there's some people who are complaining it's
a nothing burger. It isn't feel like there's a lot
of fun to be had, and that's something that a
lot of movies I'm missing nowadays, just having.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Something I still like. Said like, it is a member Parry,
a member bery pie of a movie?

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
What the fuck is a member Barry?

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Okay, You're the only person I've ever had to explain this.
Frank watch more South Park.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I'm sorry, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
All right, let me give you the context.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
It's you said to me, and I was like, what
the fuck is a member Barry? Like, I was like,
wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
It's fucking Bee Alvarez who's directing Alien Rodinyus literally made
a member Barry joke about his Movie's just like, oh,
it's just like, oh, we have references and stuff and
like Easter eggs for the original movies. But you don't
want to just make a member Barry movie. Yes, Oh
so let me explain what member berries are. There was
a South Park episode that was basically all about nostalgia,

(01:16:27):
in which they come out with this new snack called
member berries, which is basically like a little thing of
grapes that talk, and what they do is every time
you eat them. They coax you into thinking about the past.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
They're just like, hey, remember you remember Star Wars, you
remember Ghostbusters?

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
And they're just like, oh, yeah, I do remember that.
And so they're just literally eating nostalgia. And the idea
is at over the course of the episodes, the member
berries actually go sour because they start to talk about, oh,
it wasn't all just like Sunshina, rainbows and all the
fun stuff you remember, there was also the fucked up
stuff about the past. So they go from like you remember,

(01:17:05):
and they eventually start saying fucked up shit like remember
when marriage was between a man and a woman?

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Like what the fuck? What the You're like, what the ship?

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Yeah, So that's that's the idea of just like eating nostalgia,
eating nostalgia with no depth. That's why it's such a
good metaphor and people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Use it a lot, and and I do think that
it works for explaining this movie. Is that like, yes,
it's a lot of like you remember this, this is fun, right,
But I do think that that's sort of what's going
on here is it's fun without being too vapid, you know,
like without being too shallow.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Again, I like I like that they focused on like
underdog characters from kind of like forgotten subfranchises from different
studios in a pre MCE world, as opposed to doing
the obvious stuff like oh, just give us, give us
the Tom Cruise, Iron Man. It was to give us
Toby Maguire a Spider Man again.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
I do think that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Going back to the stakes thing is that like No
Way Home kind of already did the like if we
don't do this, all our universes end, you know, sort
of thing, and like that is my like, like, my
real issue with this movie is that, like the stakes
are very similar to that which is also very similar

(01:18:24):
to into the Spider Verse, which is also very similar
to you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Know a lot of what the MCU is up to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
And I'm a little worried that we've kind of hit
the end of the stakes. You know, there's no higher
stakes than that is ending, you know, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
That's I mean, that's sort of the trouble when you
open up like Pandora's box that is multiversal storytelling.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Yeah, it's kind of like it is to me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
It's the same problem as you get the Anti Monitor,
the Anti Monitor. I love the Anti Monitor. I think
he's one of the best fellains of all time. I
don't know when they'll be able to actually use him
in a DCU movie, but like, the anti Monitor is
the ultimate threat, so to try to upstage the anti Monitor.

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Since then, it has been hard for DC comics, So
it's like they all have to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Find new, different ways.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
But again, my argument against the like my own argument
in my head against that, is that comics have to
have events, and you have to raise the stakes and
make new stakes every event. And like, yes, some of
the events may be similar in a lot of ways,
you know, like but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Oh, there's also the supposed to happen. Well, there's also
the sense and storytelling that it doesn't necessarily have to
be bigger to be better. Yes, yes, exactly, because it
could Like someone's favorite event could be Civil War, which
on paper, you know, it's not as big as like
Infinity Gauntlet or anything, but it might be someone's favorite
event just because it's specific and it's more personal to characters.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Yeah, I you know, as I'm not the biggest Marvel
guy per se.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
You know I'm more of a DC guy, can't you know?
You can't tell.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
From I could even compare that to the DC side
look at Justice League. None of the best episodes of
like the Justice League cartoon, or like the Big dark
Side is gonna fuck shit up. It's more like the
personal stuff. The best season finale of that whole show
is season two, and it's just about a Thanagarian invasion.
It's not about the Anti Monitor, it's not about Dark Side.

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But that's the best finale because it's more personable to
the characters. It's all about like, oh shit, what is
this gonna mean for Shira and John exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
And I think that maybe we need to get back
to that instead of just like the universe is fucking
gonna end, you know, Like I think they tried to
add those steaks with being like here's his family and
he just wants to get back to his family. But I,
you know, like throwing in the universe stopping, you're just
kind of like all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Right, all right, I get it, I get it. I
get it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Now let's find something else, you know, like that's let's
let's keep it uh personal and more to it, because like,
like you think about God.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Same thing with like a think about the Guardians trilogy.
If you want to talk about in terms of scale
of like a threat then you kind of don't get
bigger than like Ego or Ronan, Like Volume three is
actually much smaller if you actually think about it in
terms of scale, Like it's not really about like the
end of like the universe or anything, but it's about

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this one specific person who has a tie to rockets past.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Yeah, and and like sure he's a threat, but he's
not ending the universe or anything, yeah, or or becoming
a Fanos.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
He's not going to get an infinity still like Ronan.
He's not gonna like terrorform all the planets like Ego.
He's just conniving and specific and evil.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
And I think I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Think this is an important thing to talk about because
we just revealed Driver Downy Junior as Doctor Doom.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
So what how do you beat out Thanos?

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
You know, like and the comics have done it where
Doom shows up and he just kills Danos in one punch,
And like, I think that might be the way to go,
you know, to be like Yo Thanos ain't shit compared
to Doctor Doom, you know, like sort of thing. Uh,
but I think they might have to kill Kang is

(01:22:20):
my things, Like we might yeah, Like well, it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
They's gonna get annihilated and like nuked immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Yes, I think that's so, like you could kill Danos
to show how much of a threat this guy is,
you know, doctor doom is. But I do think the
better way to throw show he's a threat and to
like tie all the MCU together is bring Johnson Major's
back just to die at the beginning of this Doomsday
Avengers Doomsday because.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Like I doubt they'll do it. I doubt, but it's
gonna be fun to see how they try and write
around it. Yeah, to just be like what happened to Kang,
don't worry, don't think about it, don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Bad, don't think about big threat. We had two movies
that to them, but don't think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Yeah, and Loki as well. It was it does It
does suck to have to, you know, reinvent the wheel
on the fly. But this is also kind of what
happens when you reveal your entire slate before it's happened.
So when when something rocks the boat, like the Jonathan
Majors type situation, especially when you've banked it on an

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entire actor, which was cool for like an acting challenge,
but all the Kang variants in the comics look completely different.
You could have just had different actors, right, you want
to pick the most recastable main villain of all time,
You could have picked Kang, could have just recast and
moved on. Stop being afraid of recasting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Yeah, yeah, especially because we're getting Robert Danny Junr as Doom.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
It's like, yes, guys, yeah I do. I love Robert
Dwry Junior.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
And yes it is he never going to reveal his
face in the in the as doctor Jum. Yes, he's
never going to the voice of Robert Danny Jr. Yeah
that might be good.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Like I don't I don't trust them. I don't trust
I don't trust actors who get paid too much to
not want to show their fucking face.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
I do think they might be like, oh my god,
he's immersed multiversal Tony. That's gone bad, you know, like
that's but to me that yeah, exactly, that's a like
moment for me. It's just kind of like it's too easy.
It's too like they think it's got emotional depth.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
It does not, you know, like, and I know non
comic book readers love to like show up. They're like,
what about this? What about this and they show like
the Irredeemable Iron Man shit, yes or whatever the adjective
for that was. It's like, yeah, but that that was
more about like Doom getting stark tech than about Tony
becoming doctor Doom, So don't try to use that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
I think that they should just keep a mask the
whole time and just play it like he's a different
character whatever, you know, like it's Doctor Doom and yes
he may sound like Tony, but like that's he's not,
you know, Like I feel like that's the best way.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
But God, t about like, even though we made the
joke of like MCU's dead, MCU is back, et cetera
way to just publicly concede to the public that you've
lost the plot after endgame, to be like, uh Rdj's back,
the Russos are back.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
I I do think so, in my like my deepest conspiracies,
I do think that the Russio's being back is a
real thing. But I don't think the Robert Downey Junior
thing is real. If I'm going in my deepest conspiracies.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
I'm a filmmaker.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Yeah, as a filmmaker, I'm like, oh yeah, they they
you know, pick their biggest star to come back as
the villain. That's like the fun of what's going on.
That's what's gonna make them money. But then my deepest
conspiracies are you're gonna see Robert Danney Junior as Doom
and then they'll kill him or like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
He's not the real Doom or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
You know, like cause it could just be a giant
misterrect to try to get you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Hide, but that could also be cope. Yes, that could
be called too exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
It's just like, is is it a misdirect or am
I just trying to be like they wouldn't be so I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Never underestimate they could never be so stupid. You sound
like me with the Red Hood thing in Arkham Knight.
Just like, oh, the Arkham Knight's not not Red Hood,
it's not Jason Todd. That be too obvious and stupid,
And that's exactly what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
That's the reason why I haven't played like Arkham Knight.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
It's like, I know it's supposed to be an amazing game,
but it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
There's still too much like tank sections with the Batmobile.
Like mechanically it's great, it's good on the Open City. Like,
on a technical standpoint, it is still very impressive and
it still looks great. It looks it still looks better
than like I mean, you saw the comparisons and like
killed the Justice League when that came out. But story wise,
oh boy, you really thought you could handle it with

(01:26:49):
just your in house writing staff and thought, now, we
don't need Paul Deany.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
We don't need Paul Deany like you need fucking Paul Deany.
Everybody needs a Paul Deany.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
But okay, to we're kind of we're like a little
bit off topic, but on topic, you know, talking about
the MCU.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
But overall, I.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Think this is a it is a good movie. I
think that there's a lot of fun to be had.
I know we're nitpicking a.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Little so now that you understand the metaphor, it is
memberberry pie, yes, but it's it's tasty member berry pie.
It has a little more flavor than I expected. It's
not just you know, store bought someone home baked this
member berry pie. That's still what it is. But it
still tastes good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
Now is it a better tasting member berry pie than
No Way Home?

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Is the kind of like thing going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I think No Way Home has a better emotional core,
even if I have my own issues with that, Like
that whole thing is kind of predicated on the old,
which is why it bugs me when fans are so
dismissive of like the Fox X Men movies, just like
you can't ship on that and then still then and
then and then clap because of all the Fox x

(01:28:03):
Men stuff they put in this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
I yeah, it's like, yes, like there's so much bad
there's bad X Men movies. At the end there, I
feel like, but there's still the beginning strong of the
Fox that you could.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Skilled to No Way Home just because you mentioned steaks
if you want to talk about emotional steaks, which tend
to be more important than like scope, because that's the
stuff that'll stick with you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Like, apply emotional steaks to all we.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Still have, you know, Yeah, that Peter losing a person
that people that are important to him, Like we leave
Peter at such like a sad place at the end
of No Way Home, which is good and it's overdue
because the MCU Peter is spoiled and that kid needs
some pathos.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Yeah, I am excited for Uh, It's like It's one
of those things that the Spider Man MCU movies are fun,
they're good, but like the one of the things that
I love about Beter Parker is his life fucking sucks,
you know, like it's like everything he does, it goes wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
That's why of the live action movie Spider Man two
is my favorite. I want my fucking Peter Parker to
suffer because that's his entire point. This kid must sufferer.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Uh, And I think that that's what, you know, like
I'm excited for that to kind of come back a
little bit. It's like, yeah, let's beat up Spider Man
a little bit, because that's what he that's what he does,
you know, he gets beat up, he comes back, you know,
like that's that's the fun of that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Yeah. But I yeah, I think that they kind.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Of already did it with No Way Home, and this
is kind of a more fun version of that, you know,
like where they're not trying to add all these emotional
steaks and everything, but still have an emotional core of
like I could lose my friends and family and Logan
feeling inadequate Slash not the X Men that he is,

(01:29:56):
you know, like that it's like he let the X
Men down and he wants you know, like it feels.
I do think it's it's kind of really sad that
like the X Men in his universe were just actually
killed by the human threat that was going on, you know,
like that they that they actually showed up and were
just racists against mutants and and actually killed them, and

(01:30:17):
Wolverine just wasn't there for it, you know, like, and
I think that that's sort of interesting, you know, like
is actually the humans getting their way in his universe?
You're kind of like, Okay, that's fucked up, Like you're
just like Jesus Christ. Uh, But I do think this
is a good movie. It's fun seeing on the biggest
screen possible.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
Is it going to blow your fucking emotional mind balls back?

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
No, no, are you gonna walk out being like, oh man,
what a deep you know, like deep moment there and
be like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
No, but no, But it does have it does have
a bit of a twinkle, does have more heart than
you would expect. Like I love that that there was
like that behind the scenes, like little reel of like
the behind of like the making of like several of
the X Men movies. On the Fox side, Yeah, I
thought that was nice because that's a better that's a
better goodbye to those movies than like the actual movies

(01:31:13):
could do because of like the shuffle.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Yeah, and I do think the after credit scene is
very funny because I thought that, Like I was waiting
for the extra credit scene, being like, Okay, so they're
gonna be like they're gonna introduce that Wolverine is in
some other Marvel property now, you know, Like that's what
I thought was gonna happen. I was like, Okay, here
we go, like we're gonna see Wolverine doing something else

(01:31:38):
and for it just to be Chris Evans monologuing that
the thing that Deadpoole said is I thought very funny.
I was like, what the fuck you know, like, and
it's just Chris Evans breaking out his Boston accent a
little bit there too.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
He definitely did not keep that in.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
He let that the Boston accent out a little bit
when he was doing the the maniacal like monologue.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Yeah makes me, It makes me miss a douchey Chris
Evans because that was what he was typecasted as for
the longest time before he got Captain America.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Was just a douchebag and you're like, yeah, I kind
of do miss that. You're like, yeah, I mean, Scott
Pilgrim's just amazing. So you're just like and that's why,
you know, the Scott Pilgrim Saves the Universe was so good?

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Was that takes off?

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Takes off?

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Sorry, it takes off because like you got to see
Chris Evans do that character again, and you're just like, Okay,
that's that's fun stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
But point is, it's a genuinely good time and it's
better than I would have expected.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Yeah, and I would say this is this is one
of those movies that makes you happy you went to
the theater, you know, like it's you know, it's a
shared experience with lots of people who are also excited
by it, you know, like and there's lots of great faits,
like people reacting to it. You know, like when you're
in the theater with them, it's like I wouldn't It's
like I would say, see it as soon as possible

(01:32:57):
so you could see it with other people in the theater.
So you're like waiting three weeks seeing it in an
empty theater because it's really fun to see how people
react to these like fun that you know drops, you know,
like Chris Evans being a Johnny Storm. It's like every
you know, like the Wolverine mask coming on for the
first time. People reacted, and I feel like that's the

(01:33:19):
magic of a theater, you know, is that like kind
of shared experience that's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
And I feel, like I said when I came out.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
I was like, I feel like this is a movie
that shows you the reason why you go to theaters.
You know, like it's because it's big, it's bumbastic, it's loud,
it's fun, it's got great music, you feel good, you
have a good time with the people you're with.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
And sure it's not so deep, but that doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Really matter if you had a great time, you know,
like and yeah, that's my thoughts on that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
It's just like this is a movie you see in
theaters like worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
But I would say if I had to rate it,
it's like an eight out of ten, you know, like
maybe a seven point five. Like it's it's not gonna,
you know, be like wow, movie of the year, but
it is. It is fun and yes, if in our
warp shelf terms, it definitely belongs on your shelf.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
I think yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yeah, Like I don't own Deadpool two because I don't
really like Deadpool two as much, but I would get this.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
I would get this. I would absolutely buy this and
watch this again just for the fun. I might have
to go see it again in theaters because it was
it was that much fun and just worth seeing and
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Bit, you know, summer that there was it.

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I lost my nana and I started a second job
the TD at the Fisher Cats, and I feel like
that's taken up a lot of time. But we want
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Again at the moment. But we will be back. We're
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Next episode will probably be Caped Crusader Batman the Cape Crusader,
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So that might be the next episode that we talked about.

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