The Warped Shelf - Evil Dead: Part I

October is here again, and with it, another staple of the genre to talk about. We're talking Evil Dead, starting with the original three movies and the musical.

Episode #149

Episode Transcript

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Hello, and welcome to the WarpedShelf. I'm Frank Durhan, I'm Deshaun
Besquez. And today two artists decidewhat belongs on your Warped Shelf. And
that could be literal as in physicalmedia, or that can be metaphorical,
spiritual, just anything that resonates withyou. And today, guys, we're

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into October. It's Halloween. Youknow, it's our favorite time of year.
You know that me and DeShawn areabsolute horror fanatics. Maybe de DeShawn
may be the one of the biggesthorror fanatics out there and crushes horror movies
like like nobody else. And Ithink that every year we do it up.

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Last year we did all the Fridaythe thirteenth, and the year before
that we did all the it wasNightmarre and Elm Streets. Correct. I
think we did Friday first. Wedid Friday. Yeah, we did Friday
first, then Nightmare l Streets andand we have talked a little bit of

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Evil Dead before, but this isone of my because it's absolutely one of
my favorite series at Evil Dead twois is and I'm gonna say some landish
things in this episode. Guys,You're gonna be like Frank when you're off
your fucking rock. But I'm gonnasay it, Evil Dead Too is a

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top ten movie for me. It'sin my top ten favorite films of all
time. I will say that,like, I don't care if it's a
crazy, wacky, bloody thing.I love this movie. I think it's
also and I'm gonna like talk aboutit today is one of the most well

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paced movies ever written. The moviejust fucking cooks so long the entire time,
and I think that we're gonna talkabout why that happened, Why is
that? Why is that it's sowell paced? And but also we're gonna
talk about Evil Dead, and we'regonna talk about Army of Darkness because we're
gonna do a part two of this, and we're talking about the musical.

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Yeah. Oh and the musical today. We're talking about the musical today,
yep, because the musical was twothousand and three. Okay, cool,
I was I didn't know if thatwas the part two. So yes,
the musical two which we saw recently, which we'll talk all about. I'm
actually really excited to talk about.Uh. But then we'll have a part
two of this Evil Dead episode,which will be Ash versus the Evil Dead

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all three seasons, which I'm inat the end of season two. I'm
like last like an hour maybe ofseason two. Uh where Evil Dead the
remake, we're going to talk aboutEvil Dead Rise? Yeah, and am
I missing anything? That's pretty muchit. So we basically we're or two
will be front loaded with like athree season show, so that's already a

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good chunk. So that's why Iput that at the end. And plus
there's like kind of that division betweenoriginal trilogy and musical which was still early
two thousands, so it's like oldEvil Dead and then resurgence of Evil Dead
starting with the remake. Yeah,kind of like the cult following came back
and made you know, as bigas it is and I I so,

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guys, today we'll be talking EvilDead, Evil Dead two, Army of
Darkness. We're gonna be talking EvilDead Musical because we saw it recently and
it fits well in here. Sofirst we'll start with Evil Dead, which
I did rewatch this morning because Deshaunwas like, you should rewatch it even
though you're rewatching the show and youwatched Evil Dead two and you know,

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it's all summed up and you've seenclips all over from watching all the every
movie. They kind of like sumup Evil Dead, but I kind of
forgot what Evil Dead was. TheEvil Dead is, like, you know,
because I watched this originally when Iwas very young, because I I

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love the poster, the poster,I want to say that right off the
bat, the Evil Dead not EvilDead too, which is why I'm saying
is one of my favorite movies.The Evil Dead has the one of the
most iconic posters of all time,no question. Her reaching from the grave
is incredible. I had it hangingin my room my whole like pretty much

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the minute I got into film aslike a teenager. I was like,
oh my god, there it is. This is the best poster ever.
It's got this I think I rememberyou having that. I do have it
somewhere. It's I have a verylarge stack of posters somewhere that is like
a bunch of comic posters movie posters. Uh. But it also has a

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Stephen King quote on there, whichI always felt was one of It's now
turned into like a joke that yousend horror movies to Stephen King and he
gives great reviews. But like backthen, it was like the King of
Horror talked up indie horror film andyou're like what it what? What?
Holy shit? And like and it'son the front cover. And that's why

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I think it elevates that poster evenmore where it's just like that's Stephen King
quote. Yeah it works for likethe general public, but if you're also
a horror fan, it's just like, oh, this must be super fucked
up. I got it. Andthat's the thing I want to say is
that, like the Evil Dead isa completely different tone than pretty much all

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the three other things we're gonna talkabout today. Yeah, it is straight
up horror going for fucked up,you know, like it is not trying
to be silly like any of theother things that come afterward. Like literally
the tone after Evil Dead two switchesso hard because that is the popular big

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movie that like Evil Dead's like kindof very serious dark tone is Oh I
almost forgot it, you know,like I literally like kind of forgot how
serious it is. It's it's funnybecause I was watching it this morning,
I was thinking, these first fortyminutes are kind of tame, like I'm

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evil That two really ramps up theblood, doesn't it. And then then
uh, then it fucking hits andyou're like, oh, oh, like
it just cranks it. And Ikind of love even though the pacing isn't
as clean an Evil Dead one.I think that the uh, the way

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that you know that Sam Raimi kindof knows you love horror plays into how
the movie plays. You know,like, you know, it's teenagers going
to a cabin. It's gonna gobad, you know, but you don't
really know the extent of how badit's about to get, you know,
like and and like you know fromhorror World where there's lots of zombies,

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this is not zombies, you know. Yeah, and almost it almost bates
you into thinking like maybe this willbe more in the lines of like a
slasher film, like is there akiller in the woods and stuff you don't
expect just like, oh, fuckingdemons, demons, And I do want
to talk about that a little bit. Is that that That's I think that's
why Evil Dead and like Night ofthe Demons or Night Breed are so fun

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and crazy. Is that demons asa villain is kind of unique. A
lot of places just go for vampireszombies, you know, like they are
not going for straight up possessive demons, you know, like it's just not
you know, an often done trope, you know, which is funny because

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like zombies and like the early days, like pre George Romero work closer to
demons and vampires, like there wasa lot of overlap between like those three.
Yeah. Yeah, more ghoulish thananything, you know, like if
you watch White Zombie, it's morethey're almost more intelligent, you know,
like even if it's not you know, like but here they like calling it

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them the Evil Dead is so fittingbecause it's not just they're not just dead.
They're fucking with you. You know, they're messing with you. They're
they're making this as terrible as itcan be. And I think that's what
carries across UH through this entire series, is that, uh, that this

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is it's almost personal the whole time. You know, the attack on everybody,
it's never it's never just like ohI'm slashing, you know, stabbing.
It's like kind of fun because it'spersonal, you know, And I
think that's I think they accomplish thatso well in Evil Dead too, and
even further in UH and almost inArmy of Darkness. It feels so personal

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to take down him, you know, like where they're all going after him,
and at least in like Ash versusthe Evil Dead, it's like they
start being like personal towards other people, you know, even Yeah, but
that that's sort of what happens whenyou like isolate Ash on his own in
a completely different time period, right, It's true. It's true because they're

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just like, no, we gottastop, just like it. Guess depth
is gay, it's so. Butthe Evil Dead, I I think if
it's been a while since you watchedit, you'll be surprised how it almost
plays you. Yeah, like youwere saying, it baits you because you

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just keep thinking he keeps opening thingsand expecting to see things, and it's
not that it's much more obvious attackson him. And I kind of love
that about The Evil Dead is it'snever like it's like there's no jump scares.
It is just like straight up thething is coming at at at Ash,

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you know, like and you're justlike holy shit, and this and
the charm of the first Evil Deadis also it's that like ultimate proverbial example
of like bloods, sweat, andfucking tears Indie filmmaking. Oh yes,
if we have to talk about thebehind the scenes here. The end of
the production, they were literally burningthe furniture to keep warm to finish the

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shots. Guys, like we're talking. They the thirteen members of the crew
lived in the cabin, not BruceCampbell. Of course. Of course he
went home because he was covered inblood. Every day he had to go
home and wash off. One point, he took off a shirt that was
covered in blood, put it bythe fire to dry. It dried,

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and when he tried to put itback on, it snapped in half because
it was so covered in corn syrupand food coloring and blood that it just
solidified and then cracked in half.Yeah, Bruce Campbell also put up his
family house as collateral for the film. To get it printed on thirty five
millimeter, they took out high interestloans, these guys. This was not

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as much as this is a studentfilm. You know. It's like,
in a way, it's a studentfilm because it's Sam Raimi without film school,
you know, making this, youknow, like and uh, and
I think that that's what makes itfeel like a student film in a way.
But the most miraculous student film you'veever seen, doesn't that feel that

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way that yeah, even though theyhad I think it's I think the total
budget comes out to three hundred andfifty thousand dollars to make this the Evil
Debt, that's what you know.And of course he had three hundred and
fifty million dollars for Spider Man three. And you're like, ah, You're

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like, you're like, let's let'suh, let's let's put Sam Raimi under
some constraints again. Then I mean, you can you can find interviews for
Bruce Campbell. Like around the timeAsh versus Evil Dead, it came out
about like how often people would begSam Raimi for another Evil Dead post Army
of Darkness, And this was aroundthe time Raimi was like making the Spider

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Man movies. It's just like thesemovies make like millions and millions and dollars
that all they want for me ismore Evil Dead And I agree, I
agree, but I uh, I'msorry they they it's a very tiny budget

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that they were working on here anduh and it and it it shows in
some parts in The Evil Dead,I feel like it's uh, there's some
moments where it feels homemade, Butat the same time, the camera movements
the amount of production they're able toslap into this movie for the budget they

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had and what they were working withis absolutely absurd. Like just the blood
coming through the walls, you know, like the and the tons of the
just so much of this movie screamsof way more budget than it had,
you know, like it's basically it. You know, Like I feel like

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it screams of being able to useits budget extremely well and able to accomplish
great things with not much. AndI think that's why The Evil Dead is
kind of one of those like inspiringstud like a young films, you know,
like where you look at it andyou're like, I can see it's

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not perfect in shots where it's likerough around the edges, but in reality,
there's so much here. There's somuch style, there's so much substance.
It's the epitome of just that justlike just fucking go out there and
make something, yeah, exactly putit like and you know, knowing that
this is your one shot, andit really was, you know, like

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it's like they knew this was it, this was their movie. They had
to make it, make it happen, and it worked, you know,
it had to call following and thenthey were kind of like pitching Evil Dead
too, which they were kind ofat first saying it was just all a
full remake, and then they werelike, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, not just a remake, you know,
like that we have to go further, we have to we have to
branch out, we have to It'skind of it's kind of a crazy thing
to the transition to doing two,because you know that one The Evil Dead
is an extremely cult film wasn't seenby many people at the time, but

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like you also don't want to liketotally erase it, you know, like
and I feel like, yeah,Mad Max two have the same thing,
Yeah, right, where it's justlike we don't want to totally erase it,
but at the same time, we'regonna do it again, and we're
gonna bigger budget, do it welland to be fair like a good chunk

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of Like why we get sort oflike retelling sem My remake of Evil Dead
one truncated for the first act isbecause they couldn't use footage from the first
movies, and they're like, well, I guess we're just gonna have to
shoot a new version of it reallyquick and just make that the opening.
So so I the Evil Dead.I feel like you should go and watch

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it as a film lover and knowthat like how how much blood and sweat
and tears got into it, butalso as a film as a as a
as people who are into film,you should go into Evil Dead two knowing
that like still they were trying tojust make it happen. You know,
like even though it's you know,like a much bigger budget and everything,

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they were still you know, likeyou know, like not not having all
the bells and whistles to make thishappen, and still producing one of the
tightest horror movies of all of alltime, you know, like other than
of course the thing. I feellike this is one of the like the
tightest plotted movies. And sure itmight be, and he's wearing it right

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there, so it might be oneof those things that you it might have
happened on accident where you know,they couldn't use the plot the footage from
the first movie, but I thinkit exactly makes this movie move so well,
you know, like it is evenif you haven't seen Evil Dead one
and you're watching Evil Dead two,it is straight to the fucking point.
There is no uh, everything justmoves along so fast. You have a

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right away there's only two people atthe cabin instead of doing the classic like
five people at a cabin, youknow, like it, and then you
have other people join them later ina quest to find the missing parents.
It's already built into the plot,which was just kind of said off hand.
You know, it's not really anythingthat's like to It's like they're not

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shoving it in your face. Thatvery a lot of this movie U is
not too bad about exposition. Thereis certain scenes where you're like, yeah,
that was exposition. Yep, Ifelt that, like, you know,
but overall it moves and yeah,it also helps that goes wild.
It also helps that at least atthe start, Ash is a POV character,

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like a point of reference, isjust kind of walking into the situation
he knows very little about, yes, which I I've always thought was very
interesting, you know, because Ithink that, Okay, this is just
a fan theory in my head,because Evil Dead two just starts out with
him taking people to to the tothe cabin, and we're not fully erasing

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Evil Dead one. Uh, Andthey kind of imply and Ash versus Evil
Dead Evil Dead one did happen.So it makes you think, did so
Evil Dead? The Evil Dead endswith Ash getting hit with the whatever,
the spirit of the forest, whateveris the the uh you know in the

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woods. Uh. He it endswith him getting hit with it, and
it starts with him evil then twostarts with him bringing just one person to
the cabin, you know, likeit kind of in my fan theory head,
he's possessed and just keeps taking peopleto the cabin. I know that's
not true in Cannon, because yeah, that definitely doesn't add up when you
think about it, It doesn't fullyadd up. But in my head,

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I've always been like Evil Dead onehappens, and then a possessed Ash goes
out and gets somebody to bring back, you know, finds another girlfriend with
the exact same name and gives herthe exact same trinket, right like uh,
like you know, it seems likea possession thing. But like that's
always been Headcannon because in reality,what happens here is that Evil Dead two

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kind of sums up the Evil Deadand we never have to talk about it.
Does the sister exist anymore? Whoknows? Yes? And if you
go is evil Dead, Yeah,they're just like both happen. Don't think
about it too hard, don't thinkabout it too much. I do.
I do love that. I'm sorry, we're not supposed to talk about the
show, but I do love itbecause that's supposed to be part two.

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But that is one of my favoritethings so far was them looking at the
door and it kind of like fadedin and out of reality and then was
there and I was like, Iwas just like, oh, like,
it's like ash being like forgetting somethingand remembering it and you're just like,
that's weird. And then like thedad definitely remembers it. You're just like,
oh no, you're like so evil. You're like, okay, so

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Evil Dead too, so evil?But back to Evil Dead too, Evil
Dead two, though, Deshaun,what is yours? Kind of like feeling
on it because I'm I'm saying someoutrageous things about saying that one of the
tightly poddests I've always really Evil Deadtwo. It's very much fun. It's

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very much like a like the samething that I feel about like the first
two Terminator movies, where it's likethe second film is a kind of objectively
better. It's much better made,it's much better constructed a lot more polish,
but in the same way that,like, if you go straight horror

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and then go more action horror,I'm always gonna prefer straight horror. Same
thing with Evil Dead two, eventhough it's a much better made movie.
Straight horror versus horror comedy. I'malways gonna prefer straight horror. Yeah,
sure, fair, Fair, Soyou're saying you're a much more bigger fan
of the Evil Dead thing. Ilike that Evil Dead one is played straighter,
even if Evil Dead two has allthe memorable moments and it is a

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better movie. Yeah, I Iin my mind, it's like I like
Evil the Evil Dead. I thinkit's a well done movie, but it's
it's a student It's like it's afirst it's a student film, you know,
like in a lot of ways,you know, but that is kind
of part of the charm, whichis also why I like Terminator one because

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it's just so fucking dirty, lowbudget. I agree, our comparison is
so apt here, Like I hateto use that word, but it's like
very it's right on the money becauseTerminator one is a cool movie, like
no question, and so is TheEvil Dead, like so so well done,

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so well made but kind of rougharound the edges. And then Terminator
two and Evil Dead two are someof the best action you can get in
film. I would say those twomovies if you want some of the best
action ever, I would say thosetwo movies, like because Terminator two is
one of my favorite action movies.I think it's up there as one of

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the best. Uh, and andEvil Dead two is I think, other
than the Thing, is my favoritehorror movie, you know, like and
I even though it's kind of youknow, slapsticky, I grew up with
the Three Stooges, so this movieplays to me so fucking hard to shawn
like. It's just like I thinkthe contrast of like the effective slapstick misted

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with all this fucked up horror shitthat's going on on top of it,
made for like an interesting sandwich.Yeah I made That's that's really it is
that this is this sandwich is forme. I think that's the best way
to put it. This. Youknow, you play as a sandwich.
This is my Itallian sandwich because likethis is like the slapstick horror, the
big moving camera movements, the absoluteaddiction to just the amount of blood they

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can pump into every freaking scene.Uh. Is is exactly you know,
Frank Durant's sandwich, you know,like that is That's what I want,
you know, like and uh eventhem doing the direct references to three stooges
with like him fighting the hands onthe floor. Uh is one of my
favorite scenes. Uh. Bruce CampbellUh proves here why he's one of the

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greatest actors alive in The Evil Deadbecause he's able to do the dement that
they haunted hand scene and sell it, you know, like that his hands
possessed and fighting him And yeah,that's almost a blessing in disguise that he
actually has like the physicality to dothe slapstick stuff, because that's not easy.
No, it's not. And they'vebeen and I mean the funny thing

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we did mention about, you know, like about the Evil Dead is that
it is kind of a continuation oftheir like high school work. Is that
like Sam Rami and Bruce Campbell andIvan Rami have been working together since high
school, have been doing stuff forever, you know, like and they they

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and it's kind of one of thosethings that like it's cool to see these
like high school friends working on films, being able to like work forever on
films together, you know, thesame dream as like Kevin Smith and Clerks.
You know, he gets to workwith these guys you know that he
started out with for the rest ofhis life, which is yeah cool,

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you know, like and I feellike that's kind of the cool vibe you
get from Saint Ramy and Bruce Campbell. It's like they've been working together forever.
They want to be together. Andthey always said they put Bruce Campbell
in front because all the ladies wantedto look at him the most. So
I like that makes sense. WhenBruce Campbell's not on screen, we should

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be asking where's Bruce Campbell? Where'sI do love how he is the main
character in The Evil Dead, butthey kind of like, don't ham it
up that he's the main character inthe Evil Dead, you know, like
they like he's definitely the last asthe first movie is not like leading man

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ash Like he's honestly kind of adweeb in the first movie as soon as
you get to two. As soonas you get to two, and like,
Bruce Campbell's already really grown into hislooks, Like, look at this
handsome Bassard that's a leading man rightthere. I love it because you have
the shot of Bruce Campbell in thebasement with like the lantern in the Evil
Dead and then you have him inthe basement and Evil Dead Too, and

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he's got the chainsaw and he's coveredin blood. It's like me going into
my first job and then me goinginto work every day now, you know,
like you know, like this isbasically it. You know, like
you're like you're like, oh man, I can't wait to work, and
then you're like film production has agedme. You know, like you're just
like, oh Jesus fuck, like, you know, like that's a It's

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kind of the the vibe you getfrom Evil Dead Too is that he's been
through the ship for real this time. You know, like you're like,
fuck, I will say the theEvil Dead pulp fiction. We talked about
it last episode. Casino Royale aresome of the movies that like really influ

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It's young Frank, you know,so I obviously have some serious love for
this and you can see if yougo to the Yep Frank YouTube page.
Don't but there is old the WarpedShelf episodes on there, so you can
check out those episodes. But ifyou go deep enough, there is my
old high school films and our collegefilms, and you can see our love

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for the Evil Dead and the EvilDead two here, you know, like
in those things we meet and Deshaunmade horror movies because we loved it.
You know, there's a couple ofmovies that never even came out that like
we're horror movies, you know,like and you know, like we love
we love them, and like this, these movies spoke to us. And

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I think that's why Evil Dead isso special to me, is that like
not only is it this like perfectsandwich of like slapstick and horror, but
it also spoke to young Frank somuch that he wanted to make movies like
this, you know, like it'sjust like, oh crap. Also,
what a fucking ending for an audiencemember, like pre Army of Darkness being

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a thing, not knowing if you'llever get a third movie to end it
with, like oh, Ash goesto the Middle Ages. I love both
the endings of I love all threeof these endings and even the musical ending.
All of these endings are fantastic.The Evil Dead is such a batshit

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crazy ending. Because everything goes wrong, the house fucks them up, it
goes crazy at the end. Forthe last twenty minutes, it's insane.
And then the same can be saidfor The Evil Dead too, but you
can pa much say the last hoursjust fucking ponkers. But then the actual

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true ending is just the most likerow out to left Field I've ever seen
for fucking horror movie ending. They'rejust like, yeah, he's a chosen
one from another age, and you'relike, what are you implying why,
Like like what, like he's he'sliterally in the necronomicon as you know,

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as a savior, as a heife, and you're just like what, And
then for them to deliver on itin the army an army of darkness is
crazy, you know. To me, I think that like to actually be
like no, no, no,no, We're not gonna do another going
to the Cabin. We're going weare continuing this series. You're yeah,

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oh my okay. And I feellike one of the things you almost miss
out on by like skipping the firstfilm is that you don't get that like
three film trajectory of just like justkind of a dweebish like dude in a
cabin with his friends, shit goeswrong, to Evil Dead two, where
he's kind of just like a corneredanimal that's fighting back to three where he's

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just so fucking done with it Shipthree but he's but he's moved into the
groovy Bruce Campbell persona in Army ofDarkness, and you know, the groovy
Ash persona that it pertains pretty much. It's funny because like I feel like

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when people think of Ash Williams,they think of more Army of Darkness.
Yeah, Ash Williams and Beyond thananything else, which is a great transition
to Army of Darkness because like,Army Darkness is a weird movie. Guys,
we're not we're not gonna code it. But is it well paced?
Yeah? Yeah it is. That'sI rewatched it for this episode, and

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I gotta say, it fucking moves. It fucking moves, And that's not
Sam Raimi's doing. That's the studiois doing. Because the director, the
director's cuts like half an hour longer. It doesn't need to be that long.
It's just too long. And I'musually the and obviously you and I
as a recurrence, are always thepeople who are like director's cuts movie is
just as long as it needs tobe, especially if it's the original intent

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the the director's cut, because they'relike fucking four different cuts of Army of
Darkness the director's cut is it justkind of goes on. There's multiple cuts
of Evil Dead too, correct.There's several yes, but only in like
the only in like the international sense, or like there's like snippets here and

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there, and like TV edits andstuff. Nothing didn't talk controversy about the
Evil Dead. The Evil Dead withits tree rape scene and then Bruce Campbell
is blatant punching Linda in the face, which both both Bruce Campbell and Sam
Rami have said they've regretted both ofthose scenes. They don't they don't like

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them, but I will say itadds to the fucked up nature of The
Evil Dead. It feels like itcrosses a line, you know, like
I feel like it like and Ifeel like that's why it feels so crazy,
you know, like is that itlike crosses that line there and you're
just like holy shit, you know, like yeah, like you're like we
didn't talk about the tree seed,but like it really that caused problems for

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the Evil Dead because The Evil Deadcame out as unrated because of that,
and that's why they did the whiteblood for a while, they you know,
they were doing the two percent milkspitting out of them because they were
like trying to beat the you know, get the R rating and not get
the NC seventeen. And then theyjust got released as unrated. Uh,
because like ratings boards don't realize thatthat's that's weirder and almost more off putting.

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It's sort of like it's sort oflike the weird logic between bullets are
bad, but like ray guns areokay, just like well, when you
think about it, isn't it justlike this fucking ray of heat that just
kind of burns through the entire body? Isn't that morvs role? Technically?
Just like you like, no,no, it's kind of they were trying

(32:59):
to pull an alien by being likejust white blood. It's fine. They're
just like good, it's okay,that's just what the robots have. They
got milk, they got milk.Blood, they got milk. But like
The Evil Dead did not release ina lot of countries, Germany did not
release it until twenty sixteen. Wildisn't that wild? Like they were just

(33:21):
like no no, and so it'slike a lot of places just completely shunned
the Evil Dead. And I wantto say, it's hard to stream.
All the Evil Dead's properties are ableto stream right now except for the Evil
Dead. If you for some reason, you have to purchase it on only

(33:43):
Amazon. That's the only place I'vebeen able to find it. You can't
purchase it on Google. You can'tpurchase it on any weird other service.
Just am I wonder where it isnow because I think Evil Dead ones like
jumped around a lot of places likethey all the other ones Amazon Prime at
like the steel book that I havefor it is Anchor Bay, and Anchor

(34:04):
Bay is stars, so yeah,there have stars. I feel like it's
coming to the point that I mightneed to get stars, and well,
of course with Godzilla coming, Imight have to get Apple but I or
watch finally watch right, uh,and all the other ship that's on that

(34:25):
on that service, but Army ofDarkness. I will say one thing that
I love about sam Abe and Ilove a lot of things about this guy,
but I will love I do lovethat he stretches his filmmaking ability every
movie. I feel like he kindof you see the growth for yeah,
you see the growth. And Ifeel like you if you like you were

(34:47):
saying, you see the trajectory ofBruce Campbell, you see the projector you
see him grow in all of thesemovies, and I feel like Army of
Darkness it's seen as on a goofyand wild and kind of maybe you know,
not exactly everyone's cup of tea becauseit's not a horror movie. Yeah,

(35:09):
it's not a horror movie. Butyou do see him step up his
Uh. The scenes are more epic, they're huge, all the scenes here.
The stop motion is wild in thismovie. Uh. And I think
that there's some better effects here forsome of the Evil deads, you know,

(35:31):
like I feel like the Evil Deadtwo is is I think perfect?
No, no, none of theEvil Dead effects. You can see like
the amount of money that like Universalthrew an Army of Darkness, Yeah,
which is kind of wild, justlike did you did you guys read this?
This is wild? This is crazy, Like they were just like,
yeah, instead of the cabin,Bruce and they're like Ash Williams now just

(35:54):
fights demons in uh King Arthur's castle. Yeah what and the fact that like
we have to open with the baggageof where we left off with the second
movie, which is another case ofwe didn't have the right to just use
archival footage from two, so wehad to fucking reshoot this again. In

(36:15):
the case of the Case of theThree Windows, Linda's never played by the
same actress. Yeah. I dolove that the sister is played by the
same actors pretty much everywhere. Ifyou look her up, she's playing it.
Even in the video game recently.You know, you're just like,
damn, Shelley, good job,keep that up. Uh. But it's

(36:37):
kind of wild that Linda's never thesame, you know, I could just
like, wait a minute, uh, which if you look you want to
talk about continuity. That's another thingthat like sort of contradicts itself because at
the end of Evil Dead two,as soon as Ash arrives in the past,
they're like, oh, it's theSavior. He's come to save us
from the Deadites, which is thefirst time they actually use the term dead

(36:58):
heightes. And then you get Armyof Darkness and they're just like, no,
no, no, he's getting lockedup. I I kind of like
that, though, it's like youkind of leave it on a hope on
like this weird ending, but thenthey're just like no, no, no,
no, no, no, it'sway it's it's harder than he thought
it was, you know, likeit's not just him in charge messing around,

(37:20):
you know. Like, but Ido. I think the Army of
Darkness kind of gets a lot offlak because it leans into the action comedy,
but kind of goes epic with itwith an entire army of dead heights
that are stop motion at points,people in costumes. It's it's insane.

(37:42):
They go wild with it. Ido love one of my absolute favorite scenes
in probably this entire series is Ashfighting himselves in the the Windmill. I
think that Army of Darkness snatch yeah, like bad Ash and stuff. Yeah,

(38:06):
bad Ash and him split him doingthe werewolf as like the split Ash
is one of my like, uhI love that frame, that frame of
him like coming up and he's likeit's it's just one of my favorite favorite
frames in film. You're just likethat is incredible and I I and it
gives you even more, Like BruceCampbell is an underutilized talent. When you

(38:30):
watch like Evil Dead Too, andthen you watch Army and Darkness, you're
like, sure, this is aweird movie. Is Bruce Campbell giving everything?
Yeah, yeah he is, youknow, like he's doing it,
he's selling it like you're just like, I'm fine with it. I do
kind of hate the cheesiness of Armyand Darkness. I'm not gonna lie,

(38:50):
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, guys. I think the Army Darkness has a
little too much cheese and was thereason why I was a little scared to
watch Ash versus the Evil Dead becauseI thought it would be very army of
darkness the whole time, which Iappreciate an army of darkness for what it
is, but I think the cheesecan put off a lot of people.

(39:14):
And I think that, you know, like, yeah, it is,
especially since it's kind of a genreshift, so that's a harder cell,
which I think. I think that'sjust say Raybis showing his growth too.
You know, he could be himbeing like, look, I could do
another genre film like let me sopartially a universal thing. The directors cuts

(39:35):
a little darker just in tone,but it also is just kind of a
slog It also has a different ending. Really yeah, directors cut, it's
kind of a repeat it's kind ofa repeat of the Evil Dead two thing,
but the opposite, where the jokeis that like he doesn't want us,
he doesn't say the words correctly,and instead of the theatrical ending where

(39:57):
it's just like yeah, yeah,I said the words whatever and it ends
with like a dead light showing upin the s mark, instead he goes
into like the Oldsmobile to like takea potion and wake up and back in
his own time. Because he didn'tsay the words right, he fucks it
up and he ends up in thefar like dystopian future. And that's cool,

(40:19):
you know, like that that's acool that's a cool idea, Like
I would also watch that, whichI'm not on season three of Ash's Evil
Dead? Na is that what seasonthree is, Deshaun, no spoilers,
Yes, no, yes, andno, okay, because I can tell
by the cover everything's gone wrong,so I'm like okay, I'm like all

(40:40):
right, all right, uh yeah, Deshaun, let me borrow all the
Blu rays for Ash the Evil Deadso I don't have to sit there on
Hulu watching it. So I appreciatewatch. I watched it as it was
airing because Hulu is broken guys,if you have Hulu, let me know
down to the comments. Is itbroken for you? Because it's always good

(41:00):
for me. It's a broken Ipay We pay so much fucking money for
Hulu off of friends Hulu, andit's never It's never been broken for me.
I just hate the way it's laidout. I've never liked it's UI.
Oh yeah, they keep trying tochange the UI, and I'm like,
I'm like, how big is yourUI department that you guys still fuck
this up? You know, likeyou just need one guy's good vision to

(41:22):
make this not suck, you know, like, and instead you probably have
fifty people being like, let's fuckthis up even more, but on all
our high budget of jobs, youknow, like you're just like goddamn.
But besides the point arian darkness,even though it gets the cheese, there's
a lot to love here. Idon't think it might be the it's the

(41:44):
ugly step child of the trilogy,but but it's also the one that everyone
quotes. It's also thee that,like you said, like when people think
of Ash as a character, theytend to think more army of darkness one
liners and stuff. Hell yeah,like when we were watching the music.
They even incorporate like some of thoselines into it, even though the musical

(42:05):
is only covering the first two movies. Really, so that's a great transition
to talk about the musical. Sowe saw in Nashville, New Hampshire Evil
Dead the musical HD version, whichmeans they had a virtual using Unity or
Unreal Engine background with a video wall, which was very cool because they recreated

(42:30):
in Unreal Engine or Unity whatever theywere using, I assume unreal the entire
cabin in three D, you know, like, and then we're able to
use the background wall as the setand kind of move around with it,
which was really cool way to doa low budget because I'm sure the video
wall was a fuck ton of money, but like low budget way of doing

(42:53):
like a whole set. Yeah,because the original version of the musical does
utilize a cabin set. But forlike when you have a smaller venue or
you don't have the means to necessarilybuild an elaborate set, it's a good
alternative. Yeah. I think Ithink, I think I want to say
that, like right off the batis, I think that's virtual set.

(43:14):
I think a lot of people invideo production are you know, seeing you
know you're hearing virtual set, youthink Mandalorian, you know, like and
you say, go all the StarWars shows. But a lot of people
are doing virtual sets just with greenscreen instead of a volumetric wall. Uh,
and using the same technology using unrealengine, uh, but just using

(43:36):
a green screen instead. And Ithink that this is kind of very similar
in that way, but physical withthe virtual wall where it's but because this
was very similar to the volumetric wallin a way, I think it led
to some cheese some points. Butthat was kind of the fun of it
is that they got it, gotto play with the video wall in a

(43:59):
way. Well, the age ofadapting Evil Dead into a musical, it's
like one Evil Dead's already gonna havesome inherent cheese. It's got a cheesy
foundation the cheese alone. Adding amusical layer on top of it dip,
Yeah, it's adding a musical layeron top of it is even more cheese.
So there's we were talking about itas we were like on the drive

(44:21):
back once we came out of it. Just like there's a wide gap of
like suspension of disbelief for something likeEvil Dead the musical because you're going and
being like Evil Dead musical. That'sa lot of cheese. I will accept
a lot. I will accept alot. Now, Okay, so let's
talk about what Evil Dead the musicalis. So I went into this pretty
blind. Deshaun bought the tickets formy birthday, big thanks to Sean Hea

(44:45):
Debas. But we went and sawthis in Nashville, New Hampshire. It's
coming to Boston in January, guys. So if you are watching this and
you're like, oh, I missseeing the Evil Dead musical, It's in
January, go see it. I'mnot i I guys, I'm already raven,
but I go see it. It'sfucking fun. Yeah, super fun.

(45:07):
I was familiar with it, butnot to the point where I ever
went out of my way to likelisten to the songs on their own or
anything. But it was always oneof those things where like, oh,
there was an Evil Dead musical andits entire gimmick was that there was like
the splash shown where you would getsprayed with fake blood and stuff like that.
I'm like, oh, that soundsso cool. That just tickles my
horror fan heart, Like I wouldlove to go to something that ridiculous.

(45:30):
So it being back on tour andhaving the advantage of that, and we
got fucking front row seats and wegot fucking drenched. We cut drenched guys.
He got us splash Zone tickets,and I didn't understand that we were
going to be like right in thefront. We were literally center stage in
the front. So just to sayhow this splatter zone works, No,

(45:53):
there's not much blood, you know, very evil dead. There's not much
blood to a point until Ash goesto chop off his hand and he literally
sits down in front of me,and Deshon sits down and just starts screaming
and chopping into his hand, youknow, chopping into his hand and squirting
blooded. Pretty much just me andDeshon and we're just like just getting blasted

(46:17):
away with kool aid basically. Yeah, And that's like the first instance of
them splattering you with blood. Andthey're very upfront about it, like they
know it's sort of the gimmick ofthe show. When you go to get
your tickets, it's literally marked indifferent colors. It's just like splash zone.
You will get wet, you'll probablyget wet, you might not get

(46:39):
wet. Yeah, And people werewearing white shirts, so it's like you
would have like a bloodied shirt afteryou, which I thought was a really
cool idea. You know, itsaid the Evil Dead and would get all
bloody. I was like, ohman, such cool idea. But me
and Deshaun are sitting there in ponchoslike being like, can't get the car,
I can't get the cover, andwe're just getting just like pre pre

(47:01):
intermission, and then like post intermissionjust like fucking sprayed, like as soon
as the show came back, justimmediately just right in there. Yeah.
And then the fact that half wasdefinitely not much blood, and then they
just like fucking sent it for thesecond and the fact that it got so
ridiculous that it wasn't just from likethe nozzles or from like the stands,

(47:23):
that they just kind of abandoned thepretense and just brought out koul Ay jugs
to splash at people or fucking supersoaker guns. It's just just it's it's
an incredible if if all the EvilDeads are descented to madness. Evil Dead
Musical is a true descent into madness, live live in front of you.

(47:45):
So let's talk what what the plotis because it's very so they're doing Evil
Dead. They're doing Evil Dead onethe or the Evil Dead to a point,
they're basically have you know, theoriginal cast and Bruce. But to
a point they kind of, youknow, once they get once the original

(48:07):
crew has kind of taken out,they kind of abandoned Evil Dead the Evil
Dead and go to Evil Dead twofor the ruins, which I mean,
even if you think about it interms of the original movies, that basically
acts like if you like, ifyou were to if you were to watch
Evil Dead up until its ending andjust pick up Evil Dead two right from

(48:30):
the camera goes to Bruce Campbell andhe's taken away, just pick up right
there. It pretty much works.Yeah, which is how like, which
is pretty much the logic that Ashversus Evil Dead does. Just like both
happened. Don't think about it toohard, don't think about it like one
in the other, And basically youget pretty much in the first like twenty

(48:52):
to thirty minutes, you get theEvil Dead and then you get the Evil
Dead two for pretty much the restof the musical, but with some absolute
uh uh army of darkness and maybeuh ashvers the Evil Dead love in there
with the smart stuff. They bringin a bunch of smart specifically Army of

(49:15):
Darkness because this, yeah, musicalis pretty much other than like the virtual
aspect to it. For like theHD version it remained unchanged since two thousand
and three. Oh okay, cool, Yeah, that's like all the mark
stuff, specifically Army of Darkness asa book end, which even in the
music, they're just like, that'sanother story, which I get because Army

(49:35):
and Darkness really could be its ownshow. Yeah right, it could be
its own crazy musical. I Ireally enjoyed how they kind of love everything,
you know, like in that way, you know, like they're kind
of throwing the smart you know,the evil Dead Evil Dead too. It's
a celebration of everything evil dead,uh in in a Okay, so a

(50:00):
lot of like gimmick musicals, youknow, where they're like, you know,
like SpongeBob the Musical or this,like you expect the music to not
be great. Evil Dead the Musicaland I will say SpongeBob the Musical both
actually have fantastic soundtracks. And Iwas really impressed by this musical. I

(50:24):
there is a couple of songs thatI thought were kind of like, well,
that could have been a throwaway,but you know, overall, I
think it's it had some solid music, fun stuff that you would listen to
again in your car, you know, like you know, for fun.
It's a fun musical. It neverstops being absolutely ridiculous, absolutely slapstick,

(50:49):
absolutely bonkers at times. Because theyin our rendition of it, they had
a the tree spirit, you know, always played by this one woman,
and she was very they were playingit as she was not into the role,
you know, liked into being thetree spirit. We had like two
tree spirits. One was just likeprogressively stopped caring over time, and then

(51:14):
one trying to constantly impress. AndI think that was a lot of fun
because it like added uh it likesort of broke the fourth wall, but
also this whole thing was breaking thefo It's also really funny to make the
trees like the things that come onand like pull the props off the stage

(51:34):
and stuff like that, just tolike keep the stage clean. Just like
that continuous thing of like the treesalways fucking with people in these movies,
which I will say, it's likeI was talking about the demons, uh,
you know, an evil dead Iwill say the trees being evil is
is very scary, you know,Like I feel like they did that.

(51:55):
It's like, yeah, that's sortof the other fucked up part about evil
is that the evil woods. It'snot just the dead itites, it's also
the like this forest, these woodswon't let us leave if we try to
drive away, either the bridges outor it feels like we're going in circles
because the forest moves, which Iwill say them recreating the bridge in Evil

(52:20):
Dead the musical was perfect, andI think they did such a good job
of the bridge like being bent uplike the hand in Evil Dead too.
That is also one of my favoriteshots is I know it looks cheesy,
I know it does, but Ilove Bruce Campbell turning on the lights and
the bridge is ripped up a likeno way anything could have done that.

(52:42):
You know, something would have hadto burst upward through it, which is
absurd, you know. Like,So I love that shot. I think
it's so like, oh no,you're fucked. And I think they do
such a good job of recreating thatin the musical. I was I was
giddy about that. I was like, I was like, there you go.
They nailed that. But the musicaldoes a great job of, uh,

(53:05):
you know, continuing the Evil Deadpart of it even into Evil Dead
two. You know, like thesisters in the basement the whole time,
instead of it just being you know, one of the dead old parents.
Yeah, we don't do like wedon't do Henrietta. Yes, because at
that point, if you're going tocombine the first two movies in one thing,

(53:27):
you already sort of tick that boxwith the sister. You don't need
another one, which they kind ofsay in the musical. They're like they're
like, eh, we don't needthat person anymore, you know, and
you're just like you're like fair fairenough. It's like all right, all
right. It's like that in BobbyJoe, just like yeah, Bobby Joe
doesn't matter. Yeah. I lovedhim coming out and being like I'm waiting

(53:47):
here for my girl Bobby Joe,who is redundant now, and I'm just
like I was like, yeah,okay, like fair enough, Bobby Joe's
not here, you know, likeI'm cool with that. So there's like
some concessions to combining the two,but I think that it all works out
to making this musical fun wild,just a completely unique experience. I've seen

(54:12):
a lot of musicals. I lovemusicals. We've talked about it on this
podcast a couple of times. I'ma big musical guy. I like them.
I'm into it now. Have Iever seen a thing where they were
running around with super soakers and koolAids and blasting us with blood blasters and
absolutely doing like close battle damage thewhole time, Like it's it's an absolutely

(54:39):
absurd musical, and it makes youfeel like you actually experienced something really unique,
you know, like that feels soon brand for the franchise and so
authentic to it. Yeah, Ithink that that's what I think. That's
you said it it's authentic. Itfeels like it's so full of love,

(55:00):
and it feels like it understands it'swhat it's trying to pull from, you
know, in a big way.You know, in a way that,
like, like you said, agimmick musical like this, something that's like
adapting a known property could just kindof coast on the idea that, oh,
it's adapting the property. We alreadyhave the end for people who don't

(55:20):
really need to put too too muchthought into it, Like, have you
ever heard anything for Spider man themusical anything from it, the only in
only it's infamy of like how muchof the ship show that production was?
They they have a couple recordings ofthe music from it. You're just like
Jesus Christ, guys, you pushthis forward? What the hell has somebody

(55:42):
for this? Like you and wehave and it's something that like has never
gotten away. Like you mentioned SpongeBobthe musical, that's one of the more
recent ones. Beatle Juices are verygood plot wise, but the music can
sponge on musical fuck Like Beatle isjust on tour right now. I've gone
to see it. I do wantto see. It's super good. It's

(56:05):
so good that it actually sort ofelevates the material. Sometimes you're like shit,
all right, thanks, which Iwill not I won't say that happens
here. I won't say that likewow, Evil Dead got better. But
it's a good representation of the material. Yeah, exactly. I think the
cast was absolutely fantastic that we sawon Nashua. I probably will not be

(56:27):
the same cast in Boston. I'msure they will recast a bunch of rules.
But I will say, if youknow, if any of those cast
members somehow listen to this podcast.You guys killed it. I thought you
did great. I thought you madeit personal, I thought you made it
fun. I think that this waswell worth seeing and I recommend to everybody

(56:47):
who is able to see it ontour to go see it on tour.
If you're an evil dead or you'reinto musicals in general, this is great,
totally worth seeing. Like, ifyou're to be closer to the front,
definitely buy a pancho. Definitely.We had. We brought our ponchos
and we needed it. We weresoaked. I'm glad they offered it because

(57:10):
we went through this whole fucking rigamarolewhere I bought a poncho specifically and then
couldn't find the goddamn thing when youwere at the house. So like,
I really hope they're going to sellthem there, and thankfully they did,
and it was the right move,because, oh God, even up until
recently, like the last couple ofweeks, I just realized that there's still

(57:30):
some like fucking kool aid on mysneakers, some like let me put these
through the wash, yeah right,just like the steaky mess that would have
been the car seats on the wayto your place. I think it was
smart to use kool aid too,because it is cleanable, you know,
like it's like yeah, and pluseasier on like the spray nozzles and stuff

(57:51):
as supposed to putting something thick likeactual like corn syrup syrup through it.
Yeah, as a as somebody who'sused a lot of corn syrup, red
food dye and soda to launch blood. Yeah, yeah, it's not doesn't
move through pipes easy. So koolaid is a lot easier, but doesn't
look right on film, but it'llbe perfect for splashing your dire audience with.

(58:14):
It also helps that, like itlooks the right color when it sprang
out, even when it hits youand it's on your clothes and stuff,
it's very pink. When it's concentratedthrough a nozzle, it looks like the
right like deep red color. Doesit really did there? Like that was
the thing I would say is like, yes, it's fun that they're doing
these blood effects. But there's certainmoments where you're like that looked good.

(58:36):
You're like that felt good. Youknow, like it like felt four D
you know in ways you know whereit was like it which you know,
there's those cheesy there's the four drides at Disney, which I still remember
as a kid, the one thattheir rats ran underneath the seats and I
felt it on your legs and like, I remember that forever. But like
this is very similar in where Ashwould fire a shot and like you would

(59:00):
get blasted when he would fire ashot and you're just like or a dead
light would get shot and it wouldcome up to me specifically and sit on
my lap. That was so fuckingfunny. Yeah, Linda got her head
chopped off, did a dance allthe way and sat on Da Sean and
it was I was losing my mind. I was losing it. That's what

(59:23):
I'm saying. Like Boston may bea good show, but I feel like
that small theater in Nashuell was verypersonal and fun. Yeah, you get
that like intimacy, I know.I know, like the Boston show isn't
going to like any of the likethe big places. It's going It's going
to like a smaller venue. Yeah, it's going to a smaller vine,
which I think is worth it forthis. Yeah, guys, if you're

(59:45):
thinking like, oh, it's ina small venue, don't think that it's
gonna be better because this isn't thisis not the type of show that like
would play at like the fucking likewhen I went to go see Beetle Juice
that was at the same thing,opera house. Yeah, like the opera
house. Ain't that type of shotand big venues that that they wouldn't play
as well. This is more funbeing in a small space, so totally

(01:00:07):
worth seeing. So guys to kindof to sum it up to basically do
these four properties. The Evil Dead, I think is what one of the
strongest early films from like any filmmakerever. I feel like it's up there
with El Mariach where you're just like, look at the fucking strength of this

(01:00:30):
copy, you know, like inhis first film, even the following from
Christopher Nolan, You're like, he'sgot some skills here, you know,
Like, and I feel like TheEvil Dead is very much that also not
a bad comparison. I'm surprised theydidn't bring up earlier like El Murray Mariotti
versus Esperado. Yeah right, yeah, no, because it is a good
comparison where it's like, well,what do you do with five thousand dollars?

(01:00:52):
What can you do with thousands?Hundreds of thousands of dollars and then
and then I feel like Once upona Time in Bed and Army and Darkness
have exactly yeah yeah, where they'rejust like, let's go full on war
movie and you're like what, it'slike, wait, what even if I

(01:01:14):
feel like it works better at Armyof Darkness's favor than I would say for
Once upon a Time in Mexico,I don't actively dislike Once upon a Time
in Mexico, but it doesn't necessarilyget the Yeah, it doesn't hit the
same, but it's not it's notto be fair. In a pre Lord
of the Rings movie world, youcould do worse for fantasy movies than Army

(01:01:37):
of Darkness, like we were wouldlike we forget that, Like pre Lord
of the Rings we were fucking starving, hell post starving. He's bringing up
heavy Metal because that's the only likehardcore fantasy they had, or like Excalibur
or something just like or like Idid. I did rewatch heavy Metal recently,
and you know, it's fun.I wish they just made hundreds of

(01:02:01):
them, you know, is mythought process on that. I'm like,
why did we not make heavy Metal? Three four five? You know,
like why did we not just keepgiving money to make dark weird cartoons.
You know, Like, I'm justlike that feels like all adult swims bag.
They should have just like kept thatup, got the rights to it

(01:02:21):
or something. Yeah, I couldhave grabbed it. I would keep you
know, because I hear that HeavyMetal two thousand is not the same.
So I've dived in yet, butI'm kind of like hesitant because I'm just
like, I want more, butI don't want it to be bad.
Yeah, well, it's definitely heavyMetal is definitely one of those ones where
it's like of its period, thatspecific type of animation. It's in the

(01:02:44):
same way that like Fantasia two thousanddoesn't hit the same. Yeah. Yeah,
even though it is great, it'sbeautiful, Yeah, it has,
it has its moments. It justit ain't the same. It ain't the
same. But but Evil Dead isis a very serious horror movie in a
lot of ways, and I thinka lot of people kind of forget that

(01:03:05):
by the retellings that they do andEvil Dead too, and then Army of
Darkness and Astros and Evil Dead andeverything else, they kind of like lose
it's always yeah, it's always thatnovelty of like what something starts out as,
versus like what the franchise staples becomeYes, Like there's no status quo
when you're just first starting out.There is no franchise, there is no

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like bible to it. Yes,and then Evil Dead too. I'll say
it again. I think it's oneof the most tightly plotted movies ever.
It's in my top ten movies.I think it is in my list.
I think it goes for best horrormovies. I think it goes the Thing
and then Evil Dead two. Itis. I think it's just the original

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three movies are a good are agood triple feature for people going in blind
because leading up to us doing thisepisode, I gathered a bunch of friends
who hadn't seen any of the EvilDead movies, and we watched one too,
an Army of Darkness, back toback to back, and their reactions
were wild, because you know,there's such a difference in the way like

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each movie progresses that they're just likethis, These fucking movies are wild.
We have no idea where any ofthese are gonna go at any given time.
I will say that if if you'venever seen it before, you're gonna
be kind of like holy shit,you know, like it's gonna blow your
backwards because you're not gonna be ableto You've never seen anything like it.
Not many movies are like it,you know, like this is it's kind

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of unique. Like I was sayingearlier, the demons, like possessing people
is not a very used trope ina lot of ways, you know,
like when it's either like an exorcism, when they're dealing with demons or something
like that. It's never straight outpossessing and using the body for violence,
you know, And I think that'sthat's what makes The Evil Dad so much

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fun and sort of yeah, youknow, like deadit's deadit's being their own
sort of like subcategory of like demonmixed with zombie makes it a little more
interesting. It's why John Carpenter,It's why John Carpenter never made a zombie
movie, but he actually kind oftechnically made several with like yeah, the
fog and prints of darkness and stufflike that, where like they're not zombies,

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but they kind of are. Butit's also kind of interesting that they're
sort of in their own little bubble. Also, fun fact, there is
a slight connection because we've already donethe Friday Movies between Army of Darkness and
Jason Goes to Hell because if you'veseen Jason Goes to Hell, you know
that there's an easter egg where youcan see the necronomicon. Yes, and

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it's an easter egg from Army ofDarkness because the director of Jason Goes to
Hell literally visited Sam Raimie on theset of Army of Darkness and asked if
he could use the prop for it, and Sam Ramy literally just put it
in his ziploc bag. It islike here there, you're taking like,
there's the connection, which if youread the comic Freddy Versus Jason Versus Ash,

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they literally put the idea out thatJason Vorhes is a dead eye,
and you're like that sort of explainsthings. That's kind of cool. Sums
up. Yeah, like you're like, all right, all right, you
would think you would talk, butyou know, like you're like still,
You're like, it's whatever works,like if he wasn't dead eye, because
I feel like that's one of themajor things about a dead eye is it's

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talking and taunting you. You know, like it is not just you know,
like it is is straight up andsaying some That's what I feel like
we didn't say in this episode issome of the most bone chilling lines in
all of horror are said in thesethree movies. You know, like some
of like the I will suck outyour soul is such like a very standard

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thing now, but it was saidfirst and Evil you know, like it's
said there. You know, likeit's like lots of other fucked up lines
are all in the these movies,and I feel like it's one of those
things that we don't you don't givea lot of credit for some of the
fucked up ship that is said inthese movies. Yeah, just like,
oh damn, but it adds tothe love of these now. Guys down

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below, let us know which isyour favorite of the Evil Dead original trilogies
and which ones you're exciting for usto talk about in the next episode,
because this again is a two parterfor October for Halloween and I'm still we're
still cooking through them. I'm gonnahave to rewatch the Evil The remake because
it's been years since I watched it, and then I'm gonna watch Evil Dead

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rise, and I'm at season almostat season three of a Dead, so
I'm recrushing a lot of I'm goingto be rewatching as Versus Evil Dead season
three as soon as we're done recording. Yeah, but uh, guys,
I really appreciate you listening to thisepisode. I hope. I think that
every one of these entries deserves anentire episod. So that's hard about doing

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a film podcast is I feel likeThe Evil Dead, we could go on
and on and on and on aboutEvil Dead two all day. I could
talk all day about The Evil Deadto an Army of Darkness too. I
feel like all of these deserve hugeepisodes, but we're trying to combine these
all into a fun Evil Dead franchisekind of you know, consumable and at

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least better to do it as amulti parter than try to like shove the
entire franchise into one episode to episode, because I feel like, were we
to do the like Friday of thethirteenth episode now as opposed to closer than
when we first started the podcast,we probably would have split that up.
But yes, yeah, because it'sI think it's almost like a three hour
episode or something like that. Wefucking that is a big one. You're

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just like, God, no,I am, but uh, well,
you know, we're trying to bemore consumable, more more more helpful for
you guys for your commutes, youknow, like you. So give the
movies a watch if you haven't seenthem before, and if you're either in
the New England area, see ifyou can catch the Boston show, don't.
I know they were touring in otherplaces around the country, but I

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know the New Hampshire one was likecloser to like the tail end of the
tour. So I don't know wherethey'll be going post Boston. But if
you can see it, go seeit. Try to find the Evil Dead
cabin it is. It might stillThere is only the fireplace still out there
from the Evil Dead when they wereshooting. The rest of the cabin's been

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demolished, and they do say itis private property and you will get shot
because it's Tennessee. So don't don'ttry to go looking for the Evil Dead
cabin. Just know that they recreatedit in a set. For all the
other movies we're gonna be talking,they are safer landmarks for you to visit.
You can go up to New Jerseywhere they filmed Friday the thirteenth,

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like you can go fucking where isit Baltimore? I think where you can
see like the Exorcist stairs or somethinglike that, or you know, run
up the Rocky stairs. Yeah,you know, easy. Public. Don't
call on private property, don't goon private property. Don't do it.
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