The Warped Shelf - Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire

Lizard and Monke return to battle Bad Monke and Chill Lizard in Adam Wingard's latest MonsterVerse entry. How does it stack up to the franchise, both on the western side and comparing it to the Toho films? Is it still fun?

Episode #159

Episode Transcript

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Hello, and welcome to the warpshelf. I'm Frank Duran, I'm Dean Vasquez,
and today we're talking about Godzilla XKong the New Empire. We know,
we've been away for a little bit. We've been sick and busy and
you know, Oscars and all thatjazz. But we're back and we're talking

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about Godzilla like we normally want to. So I'm excited to talk about this
film because I mean, simply put, I had a good time. I
saw this at theaters and I hadsuch a good time in the theaters.
Uh, you know, I sawit with Mary and my brother, and
you know, just saw it atChunky's nearby. Uh. And I mean

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Chunkies is a good experience every time. You know, it's food, it's
it's it's movies, you know.Like and they closed down two locations recently.
So that's why I'm plugging them,because like, come on, stay
alive, Manchester location. I needyou. But I I had such I
had a good time with this movie. Am I saying it's a perfect movie?
No? Absolutely not. Am Isaying it's gonna blow non Godzilla fans

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away? No? No, noteven that. Definitely not, definitely from
the jump. This has been likevery unfavorably compared to minus one, which
isn't fair at all. No,it's it's not fair. And I feel
like, yes, of course thatwas gonna happen. That was the last
Godzilla movie, so they're gonna compareit. It's the Japanese Godzilla movie.

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So everyone's like, oh, yes, Japanese movies are obviously better, and
you're like, you're like yeah,but you didn't grow up in a world
where there was no American Godzilla exceptfor nineteen ninety eight, you know,
like that, like that's it,and we would get Japanese Godzillas in Godzilla
two thousand and a couple others comingto theaters, but we just literally didn't

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have it. So as a Godzillafan who grew up with no American Godzilla,
I just love that there's two Godzillatime like things going on at the
same time right now. You know, like we have Godzilla Minus one,
we have an American Godzilla, andtechnically there's a Godzilla show going on right
now because Monarch's been renewed for seasontwo. So like you're like, okay,

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so there's a TV show that's notan animated show. You know,
like there and which Netflix has aKong animated show, but that got anceled
quite quick. They were like SkullIsland smash that. Like they do most
things. They're like, if it'snot literally everyone talking about it around the
bubbler at work, we don't wantit. And that's kind of how Netflix's

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model goes. But I feel likewe are rich with Godzilla here and with
a we got a very serious Godzillaminus one, like a very serious take,
a cinematic, beautiful take, stillmy favorite movie at twenty twenty three.
And then we get some like literalshoa Era like even before that,

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Godzilla like fun. This is justa fun movie. I'm not as it
is very like shoa Era Shenanigans,which is fun for every for every one
like dour sad nuclear metaphor whoa isme? Godzilla movie for every one of

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those, there's about five lizard,big punch, laser pup, pew,
and to be fair to like tothe comparison to the older Godzilla movies,
the fun of just Godzilla versus somethingelse, and that's what this is.
Because they're introducing new monsters. There'stwo new monsters in this uh and like

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technically three if he counts son ofKong, but not he's not really new
but like she MoU yeah, nottechnically his son, which I was like,
that's kind of a throw guys,but she MoU and what's his name,
Skark scar King. They are brandnew monsters, which come on,

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guys, this is the first timewe've gotten new monsters since King of the
Monsters. Yeah, and even inKing of the Monsters, we like didn't
really use any of them. Wefocus primarily on the Toho ones. Yeah,
we just got you know, likethis is literally introducing a new monster
and it's the main villain for thefirst time, and even in Japanese Godzilla's

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a very long time, like thisis this is something new, and for
me, this hearkens back to mychildhood, you know, like where they're
just like, oh, there's anew monster for Godzilla to fight. You
know, he's gonna kick his ass, but that doesn't change the fact that
it's gonna be badass the whole timeuntil that happens. And and to be

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fair to the comparison of the oldGodzillas, a lot of the old Godzillas
are the human plots. They justthey take forever and they feel not fun,
and like, you know, there'sa lot of gods, like I'm
a Godzilla fan, but there's alot of human plots that you're just like,
Okay, I'm gonna fast forward tillthe till till my boy shows up?
You know, where's my lizard?And this at least is a fun

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human plot that like tries to keepit moving, introduced sub sci fi elements.
It's mostly cause it's kind of beencut to ribbons, like this movie
was fucking trimmed down to its barestessentials. This shit just fucking jumps around.
You're like, sure, why not? Sure? True? I feel
like there is a lot of editeddownness to this. I'm sure there's gonna

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maybe there'll be a director's cut that'sa lot longer. But which is I
doubt it, doubt it and it'sit's fine. But what bothers me is
this like, and it's been athing since twenty fourteen, this like double
standard of what humans bh, wejust need just monsters, as if the
monster versus gonna be the thing tolike make a Kaiju movie with only monsters

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that know humans when even the TOAmovies don't do that, right, You're
like, ah, it's like it'slike minus one is a shining example of
a great human plot, you know, like it's a shining example in the
Godzilla uh over thirty years of over? Is it fifty years? Uh No,
No, it's a lot. It'sa longer, a lot longer than

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Sorry, I'm messing it up,but like, well, I think it's
that. I think it's that likemillennial thing of like thirty years ago,
thirty years ago. Wait a minute, yeah, I know that happened to
me the other day yesterday they werelike, oh, yes, it's the
twenty nine years since the Rugrats passoverepisode. And I was like, I
don't need to be reminded that I'molder than twenty nine, you know,

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like I don't need to be remindedhim over thirty fuck you. Yeah,
just another one of those that wasjust like, what do you think Zelda
was twenty years ago and it's linkedto the past what Zelda actually was twenty
years ago? Win Wake were like, ah, exactly, your fuck now.
But I think a lot of peopleare forgetting, even even in these

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American Godzilla movies that they've missed constantlywith keeping the American the human plot moving
even the original twenty fourteen Godzilla.Yeah, well, the problem with twenty
fourteen was that, like we wereinvested in Brian Cranston's character and then we
killed them off less than halfway through, and then we were stuck with his

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much less interesting son. Yeah.Somebody pointed out the other day that he
doesn't even get to prove that Godzilla'sreal before he dies. Yeah, he
just gets killed by him. Thenyou're like, fuck, that sucks,
gets killed by Toe and then andthen King of the Monsters. I love
King the Monsters. It is stillone of my favorites, both if we're

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talking about Monster Verse or in thefranchise wider franchise and franchise. And I
don't mind the human stuff in that. It's it airs a little on the
melodramatic, but I don't mind it. There Skull Island, I feel like
we're taking these really talented actors andkind of outside of John Goodman and Sam
Jackson, kind of making them justpretty mannequins. Yeah, they're they're there

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to die, Like Ree Larson andTom Hilson have like nothing to do here.
Yeah, Like all the best charactersin Skull Island are kind of like
the side characters like the funny soldiersand stuff who eventually get off. Yeah,
I'm with you there, and andand if we're talking Godzilla versus Kong,
the human plot is very minimal inthat movie, and I was very

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forgiving of that because it very justmuch bridges the gaps. You know,
like even though Millie Bobby Brown isabsolutely superfluous in that movie, you know,
like she's a big plot of Kingof the Monsters, but like the
in Godzilla Versus Gong, it's kindof like, all right, why is
she here? Star power? Allright? You know, like that and

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the carryover from King of the Monsters, since it felt more like a crossover,
like Godzilla versus Kong was already kindof Kong biased. It didn't bother
me then because Cole Island never gotits sequel, So I'm like, all
right, so this crossover is effectivelyacting as its sequel at the same time.
That's what I would say by tellme get here, this is Kong
the New Empire featuring Godzilla. Iwill say that I'm talking a lot about

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Godzilla here because he's my boy.But like that is my one main like
takeaway from this movie that I willlike it ticked down. The score for
me is that this is very calmheavy. Yes, does it work for
this movie? Yeah? I thinkit does. But I Where's My Boy?

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My boy basically comes out fucks uptwo monsters, Like he comes out
fucks up a spider in the openingtitle sequence, which hell yeah, fuck
yeah, I love that, Likehim destroying Rome, that was great.
Uh. And then and then hegoes and beats up what's that what's tyretitus

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or something like that? Yeah,some kind of like t tighten some like
underwater Titan. Yeah, and hefucks that up and then basically goes to
sleep to recharge, which I'm Theysaid before this movie came out that Godzilla's
transformation in this is based off ofGoku, and they basically Goku my boy

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here where they're like, well,okay, well we gotta keep him out
powered, we gotta put them onice for a second, and then we'll
bring him in what we really needhim. They're like, not till the
end of the fights, you know, like do we bring them in?
And you're just like, I getit, but god damn it, I
love watching gods like. That's thething is, he's so fun to watch
in this that like you're kind oflike more please you like it. Just

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like like him just curled up likea cat in the Roman Coliseum, Oh
so funny, so funny, sofunny, so good behavior, and him
like yelling at a helicopter instead ofdestroying it. What made me cackle out
loud when he did that. Andand just like even like him floating uh

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to like during the zero gravity sequencemade me like cackle with laughter because you're
just like that's incredible. Like God'sstill just being like it's okay, I'm
an underwater creature, you know.Like fun like this sort of like Reverend
sent mysticism towards Godzilla in twenty fourteenand King of the Monsters like they true
they shoot him and they treat himlike he's like this wise old creature.

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And you get to these two crossoversand he's just so fucking agro. That's
like this defining character dra He's justlike an angry fucking cat, cause I
mean, yeah, that is basicallyhis plot here when Kong is like okay,
I'll go I'll go get his help. I'll come upstairs and I'll go
get Godzilla, and basically Godzilla islike from another continent, is like,

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fuck you, I heard you.Here I come. And he shows up
and he's and he immediately just runsat him, and Cong's like, wait,
no, please, I got somethingto explain, you know, like
and then the minute and spoilers guys, because we've already gone through so much
of this, and then this wasspoiled for me, and I was very

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upset with the Godzilla groups I wasin that Mafra is in this movie,
Like I think they did a greatjob of not showing her at all in
the emotion that thankfully got to bea surprise for me. I'm like,
oh shit, hey, he sheIt's my girl. As someone who like
loves to make fun of how uselessMathra is, I actually really like the
legendary like Monster Verse version of Mathra, so I'm like, oh, sweet

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dope, he was really cool Kingof the Monsters. I'm glad she's back
and and and of course she is. She is just like the voice of
reason to Godzilla, which I thinkis hilarious. Like he's about to beat
the shit out of Kong and likesome people will be like, oh Kong
one net far he was beating himup and you're like Godzilla was gonna kill
him. Godzilla was going to burnhis face off, like no question.

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And then Mathra steps in and he'slike, oh, okay, honey,
whatever you want, you know,Like he's like, yes, yes,
mother, let's do what you wanthere, and and basically like stops fighting
him and just listens to Mafra andgets big like cave man boy unga bunga
boyfriend versus like petite little petite wifeexactly. Oh man, Like that is

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that was ruined for me in theGodzilla groups. And I was so upset
about that. I didn't know ifit was real. I thought it might
have been a joke because they memeoften, but it was like a new
It was like the way she looksin this movie. And I was like,
I was like, oh, fuckingdamn it. You know, like
I should have stayed off on socialmedia because like like the Godzilla groups are

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like you didn't see you in thefirst weekend, fuck you? You know,
like here's a here's a picture ofMathra and you're like, god,
damn it. Another's disadvantage of us, like not really tying and this I
brought this up when we were talkingabout Godzilla versus congway back when you remember
how we had like we had ascientist who was studying Hollow Earth and Skull

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Island, and we actually had anolder version of him appearing King of the
Monsters to sort of set that up, and then he just kind of disappears
by telling me get the GV gayyea, and some other fucking new character
takes his credit. Yeah, they'relike, he's so here is somebody filling
in for him? Well, theactors. The actor's still around. The
character didn't die in King of theMonsters. I'm like, where the fuck

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is doctor Brooks? Just like whatwhat? What is happening here? Why
is the Scars guard taking this role? I sort of thought something similar here
where I'm like, wait a minute, we set the twins up in King
of the Monsters and the twins arejust nowhere to be found here. Yeah,
I guess I'm one of the fewlike actually gives a ship. Just

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like whatever, why do you actuallycare about the continuity between these movies.
I'm like a little a little bit. I was definitely being like sitting there,
going how are they gonna make herinto a twin? So she's the
Twins for Mathra, you know,Like I was like, I was like,
okay, so she's calling Mathra.How are they gonna like make her
a twin to be like the Twinsfor Mathra. I was like, how

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are they gonna like fix this?And they're just like no, no,
no, no, no. Shejust calls Mathra and you're just like it's
just like it's fine, I guess, you know whatever. But we already
had this in the bag. Wesaid it up, we cast a really
good actress for it. They're like, nah, never mind, moving on,
you know, and you're just like, yeah, I miss some of

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the King of the Monsters and GBKcharacters on the Godzilla side. I'm not
gonna lie. Yeah, Like where'sBradley Whitford. I miss him? I
feel you there, And like goingback to that this is a Kong movie.
It really is in a lot ofways because it's straight up is like
what it like the beginning sequence otherthan Godzilla sucking up the Spider is Kong

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having his life in Hollow Earth hangingout with Doug. You know. This
way, if Legendary had lost theirlicense to be able to use Godzilla instead
of renewing it, because I thinkGVK was like the last one before they
renew the contract. That's what Ifeel like. This movie feels like that,
Like they didn't have Godzilla, sothey wrote this movie and then they
were like, oh we got wegot Godzilla. Oh shit, let's show

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him in here. So if youswap Godzilla for something else or even cut
his stuff all together, this wouldstill kind of play, which is sort
of an issue for like what's supposedto be a crossover movie, even if
it is a sequel to one.Yeah, I feel you there that this
this definitely felt like Kong the NewEmpire featuring you know, like cause it

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really is Kong. In Hollow Earth. He gets hurt, you know,
he goes up to get help andlike and and gets fixed up, and
then he goes back down and andthey like follow him down to find the
new civilization that's all linked with Kongand Skull Island, you know, like
and even the crossover from Godzilla versusKong. So you're like, you're like,

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okay, so this is very Kongheavy. You know, like this
is like super Kong heavy, whichis for me. It's fine, you
know, like that's that is Iget it. And it also makes it
makes Yes, it's easier for theaudience to latch onto Kong. Yeah,
because he human, he had thehuman face, he expressed like human and
even empathize. It's it's the samething with GVK. Just so you guys

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are just supporting Kong because the bigbecause he's the big monkey, and you
can empathize with the big monkey,as opposed to if you had paid attention
to either of these two movies.You know how this fight's gonna turn out.
You're like, come on, guys, let's be rude, let's be
rede I did uh you know,I I do enjoy uh is it?
Brian Brian Tree Tree, Henry BrianTree, Henry Here. I thought he

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was super funny in this role.I think Dan Stevens is is quite good
here as like the funny. LikeI know, he was like more serious
in the last movie, but Iliked him more as like I've been traumatized,
so now I'm relaxing, you know, like that. Oh Dan Stevens

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wasn't in the last movie. Hewasn't. It wasn't. No, Oh
shit, sorry, I thought,I think I think you might be confusing
with Scars the Star's Guard he looksso similar that I was just kind of
like, ah, yes, it'sthat character transferring over, you know,
Like I was just like, ah, yes, uh no, but I
need okay then, But I wasmistaken there. Terry Henry was solid in

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this, but I feel like boththis and Godzilla Versus Calling, he does
come off as a little awkward.I don't know if Adam win Guard knows
how to like direct that type oflike improvisation, because that's the type of
like actor he is, and that'ssort of the lane that he plays in.
And it works. I don't knowif wing Guard knows when to tell
him to stop. That's true.I feel like it's it works, but

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it's not. It's not perfected anyway. But I did enjoy Dan Stevens's character
to be fair to Like what Iwas trying to get at is that I
like that like this, it's likethis Steve Irwin type like hiju dentists.
I'm like sure, sure, yeah, right, you're like fine by me.
And I think Kaylee Hotley as asas Gia is doing a great job

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again, I think she's I thinkshe was great in God's Elects Versus Kong,
And I think she's good here.I don't know Rebecca Hall here as
Eileen Andrews is. I know thatshe's like the main character, and I
know that she's trying to like,you know, bridge these two movies.

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Eh, you know, like Idon't I don't know if any of the
emotions were landing other than like Imay lose ga, you know, like
that's the only one that like reallycomes across. And I think that's and
I think that's obviously less on herand more just on the writing this and
this movie, even if it waspresent on the page, This movie narratively,

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especially on the human side, feelsso stripped down. Yeah, yeah,
exactly, And for me as aKaiju fan, in a good way,
because it's stripped down the human plotto have long sequences that are just
titans going around and at each otheror like roaring or like fight. Yeah,

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you know fighting. I'm totally coolwith that because you can. And
Mary pointed this out when we leftthe theater. She was like, there's
not a lot of dialogue in thismovie. And I think they did that
intentionally for international audiences, that theycould watch this with either dubbed or subbed
and it would play you know,like you could just watch it and it

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would be it would work for everylanguage, which, to be fair,
I think that really works. Youknow here is that this could It's already
made five hundred million dollars internationally anddomestically, and it hasn't. It just
opened in Japan this week, youknow, like just opened in Japan.
So it's like one of those thingsthat the big money market for a Godzilla

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movie just happened and they already madetheir budget back, you know, like
you give time. You know,it's like the it's like the George Miller
approach. He like made Road Warriorand Fury Road with the intention like you
could put this on mute and youwould still get this because a lot of
this is told visually, and Ithink that's that I think that can be
said about this movie is there's alot of visual storytelling here, a lot

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like you know, it's not it'snot absolutely fantastic, but like, you
know, like there's a lot ofvisual storytelling, a lot of visual emotions
coming from Kong and Godzilla, ShockKing and like like wind Guard is definitely
doing his damnedest. Yeah, he'sbeen one of those like he's still kind
of early on in his career,Like the big three examples people will bring

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up are like these two movies,these and his live action death No Yes,
And it's like because I mean somepeople like your next you know,
like and a lot of people willbring up you know, VHS, but
people don't talk about the Blair Witchremake, you know, like people don't
fucking say anything about that, youknow, Like yeah, they're just like

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ah, hell nah. You know. But it's interesting because god Zilvers's Kong
did so well that we've kind oflike hitched everything on like his take yes
on these characters, which works becausegod Zilvers's Kong was fun, but I
kind of miss the more like polishedthat we had, whether it be garre
fed Words or Michael Doherty or evenJordan Voon Roberts for Skull Island. Absolutely

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I'm there with you. Is thatlike there he leans into the fun of
this Kaiju movies, which I youknow, I I love that, you
know, like I love that feelbecause I thought that was lost forever,
you know, with with as muchas I love God's King of the Monsters,

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I thought that that movie was thetrue end of like God'szilla fun.
You know, like that we hadto be cinematic moving forward no matter what,
you know, like even if itdoesn't work, you know, like
it's just like, no, weneed to be overly cinematic. You know,
I actually disagree. I don't knowhow you got that read given that
like twenty fourteen is so self serious. Yes, And I always felt like

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King of the Monsters was kind ofa great balance between like, Okay,
we're still sort of taking this seriously, but we can still be like huge
about it at the same time.I more mean that like that was fun,
but I was worried that like thatthey they would take the wrong lessons

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from that movie. And obviously GodzillaVersus Kong was the other way, you
know, like being like, no, let's lean into the more tight and
fun. And this is the openingcredit sequence for Godzill versus Calling is a
fucking tournament bracket. All right,all right, we know what we're here
for. And and this is evenit starts like I feel like it's almost

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w w e ish in a lotof ways, this movie, you know,
like it's very just like and hearingknis Corner is calm. Look he's
fucking up monkey, you know,he's fucking up weird cat creatures in the
in hollow Words, and here's godZilla and he's fucking up a giant spider
in Rome, you know, likeand oh they're buddies now, you know.
It's very like, I don't know, in that way, it's like

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a fun plot and it's light andGodzilla's doing ridiculous shit in here, like
it's straight out of the Show era. People. It was so funny seeing
people complain that he was like fullon sprinting in this just like I mean,
it could be worse. He couldbe fucking flying kicks, doing flying
kicks or some shit. And it'sfine, although I do get the sentiment
that I do sort of miss likethe weight, yes, and the physics

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of like twenty fourteen and King ofthe Monsters, especially the latter which was
still huge and had a bunch ofmonster fights, but still felt like there
was like a realism to us,like, oh, I can actually feel
like the sense of like weight thatthese monsters carry, like they're actually there.
Yeah, because if you're comparing thefight in Boston in King of the
Monsters to the fight here at theend, which is in uh is it?

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Where is it? It's Thailand.Where is the final scene here?
It's uh, well, besides likeHollow Earth itself, before Godzilla goes down,
he's in each other like the Shimuand Scars scar King. Oh oh
the fight Yeah yeah, yeah,where is that? That's I can't remember.
I can't remember. But it's likelike what you're saying, the weight

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is gone. Like you literally seeGodzilla take every step as he rushes forward
to fight Godora. You know,like you you like feel Boston being destroyed
here it's just kind of a playground, you know, like in the final
fight sequence there, they're just destroyingthings and you're kind of like, this
whole city did not get any warningthat the Kaiju fight was gonna happen.

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They just popped out of the groundand started destroying shit, and you're like,
and it wasn't even showing anybody dying. They're just being like, sure,
it was inevitable. The further alongthat we got in the franchise,
the more we would kind of handwavethat kind of stuff away just to be
like, can we just get moving? Yeah, Like we were never gonna
have like the twenty fourteen thing oflike Godzilla going up to the surface just

(27:36):
arriving on land is literally causing tsunamisyeah, yeah, because like here there's
a tsunami because they're coming out ofHollow Earth, but then frozen by Simu.
So it's like a kind of oppositeof that, you know, like
and then and then they're then scarKing is just whipping again, pissed off
by the beach goers, you know, and you're just kind of like,
Okay, the star thing as likea big bad to fight, not that,

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although there is part of me that'sjust like we couldn't have come with
anything else besides just an evil monkeyfor cong to fight, I will say,
uh, scar King, Uh.And the kind of the whole plot
is this just Lion King two?Is that? Is that? The is
that the plot going on here?Like like it's not Lion King, it's

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literally Lion King two, you know, like where it's just like Scars in
charge and and he's enslaved the lions, you know, like and you're just
kind of like, and here's amonkey who's fighting back, you know,
like it's kind of like, well, considering Scars not in the Lion King
two, but I get what youmean, you know what I mean,
Like it's just kind of star crosslovers. I mean, this movie is

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called Godzilla x Kong and they didn'tfucking kiss what I mean death we lost.
I I think that you know,like that there's there's a lot of
the weight, but in a andyou know, and you know, Tokyo
Soos does a great job of likeshowing the weight of Godzilla even there,

(29:07):
you know, like and they itis fine for it to be light and
ridiculous. Like I remember seeing areview not too long before, like it
came out to the public of justlike, look, if if you're here,
if you if the idea of Godzillasuplexing another monster appeals to you,
then this is gonna be the moviefor you. And I'm just like,

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what the fuck else do you thinkI'm here? I'm mofucker, Like I
loved Minus one too, but Godzillais more than just the one thing.
Yes, and that's what That ismy defense to this movie. This is
why and I do recommend this movieto people, you know, like I'm
like, no, if you wanta fun, stupid movie, if you
want a classic blockbuster, if youwant to go to a movie's and just

(29:53):
have a good time and check yourbrain out, this is the fucking movie
to go see in theater at themoment, you know, like if you're
like a civil War is too heavyfor me, Godzill x Kong is right
there, go into the next theater, especially since you might not have had
the chance last time, like yousaw Godzill versus Kong in theaters, I
didn't get to. Yeah, Andit's it's one of those things that I

(30:15):
try to see every Godzilla movie intheaters because as a kid, I didn't
get to, you know, likeit just wasn't a thing. So it's
like such an event for me togo see it. And it's like I
try to see it as big asscreen as possible. And I would see
this movie again just because the firstoff, the fights are fun. I

(30:36):
love the upgrades, you know,like I love that, you know,
we get basically like Nintendo Power Armfor for Kong, which is silly but
also like fits in, you know, like it's of course silly, but
it's also like not quite I thinkit works because it's not quite like an

(30:56):
entirely like robotic prosthetic. It's justlike a gauntlet that goes over his arm.
You're like, okay, we haven'tstretched it too too far. Yeah,
I don't want to see mecha Kongin the next one, which I
don't like. After this, Iwas kind of like they might do mecha
Kong, you know, like Iwas like, because they already had plans

(31:17):
for all like the robot enhancements.I'm like, somebody making mecha Kong in
the next movie. You know,I shouldn't come on, let's see what
happens, but that would be moreI need more things for conga punch than
just like another monkey, but it'san evil monkey and I'm the good monkey.
I did like him the Son ofKong tricking him into fighting the Sea

(31:40):
Serpent, which is a callback toa classic Godzilla monster, which I was
like, all right, you know, like and I thought that was such
like a fun sequence, and there'sI will like, you know, a
lot of people complain that there's alot of Kong in this movie, but
I kind of liked that. Itwas just kind of like Cong comes down,
finds out there's monkeys, and hebasically kicks the shit out of the

(32:06):
ones that are mean to him.Like, and I was, Deshaun,
did you burst out laughing when heused Son of Kong as a fucking weapon?
Against the other monkeys. I wasnot I couldn't control myself. I
was losing it out of pocket.Violence towards children in a comedic way will
always make me laugh. He gotthat a record, guys, he said

(32:31):
that on record. But yes,I'm with you. Is that? Like
I was like, that is beyondanything I thought he would do. And
I felt like wind Guard speaking tothe audience of just like, no,
just because we introduced the like babyKong character to pala around with Kong doesn't
mean he's gonna be a fucking Minya, yeah right, which like thank god,

(32:54):
you know, Like I was like, I was a little worried when
Son of Kong was showing up inuh, you know ads. I was
like, oh, guys, thisis gonna be weird. Like do we
who the who the hell is everliked that idea? Like we always have
that mentality of like, we gotto put the kid character in because the
kids will be able to project ontothe kid character. What kid ever actually

(33:16):
liked the kid character? Nobody?Nobody, Nobody's like, yeah, Minya's
fucking sick, you know, Likethere's like Robin and no one else and
even some people can't fucking stand Robin, you know, like you know,
like and I get that, Isee, I see where you're coming from.
Like I was the one who wantedto relate to the kid character.

(33:36):
I just wanted to be the maincharacter. That's who I would project onto.
It's for the little brothers, youknow, Like is what I've always
thought of it as, Like,you know, I get to be Batman
and my brother gets to be Robin. And when when you're playing this with
friends, you know, if youhave two big brothers, they're Kong and
Godzilla, and little brother gets tobe Son of Kanan, you know,

(33:57):
like you're just which does he havea fun name? Like what the I'm
calling him Son of Kong because theycall him that in the advertisements, But
uh yeah, I think he's justSon of Kong. I don't think they
actually had a goddamn name for this. Maybe Kong Kong because son whatever his
little name is. Uh. ButI did I do like the implication that,
uh such like the one thing Idid really love about Son of Cong

(34:22):
other than him tricking him into fightingthe sea Serpent and him being used as
a weapon, is I did likehim handing him the acts. I thought
that was fucking I thought that wascool, you know, like that was
like a cool little bit that likeKong locks the acts. Son of Kong's
like, I got you, letme get that for him. I know
that's important, you know, LikeI felt like that was a cool kind

(34:42):
of even more of an anime reference, you know, like it felt very
Dragon ball Z, you know,like I also felt a lot of a
God of War, yes, becauseI felt like Kong is definitely like twenty
eighteen onwards, like Dad of War. Yes, yes. And then I
felt like skarking between like the whitefur, the red paint down his face,
and the fact that he has likea chainsword weapon kind of I'm like,

(35:06):
this is fucking somebody crados. Yeah, somebody liked it, but I
do. My My thing about Sonof Kong that I really like is the
implication that every monkey has been breedingwith scar King because he's king, and
Son of Kong is a scar Kingoffspring. Ye. Yes, I like

(35:27):
that implication. I'm like, Okay, that's cool, you know, like
you know, like that's a littlesomething else, you know, like where
you're just like, oh, he'syou know, he's helping, but like,
you know, he is scar King'sson in a lot of ways,
and I kind of I felt likethat was kind of dramatic in some ways,
you know, like I'm like,all right, all right, that's
something. You know like this thiscertainly for a lot of it feels like

(35:50):
we're just like, oh we what, oh wow, Kingdom of the Planet
of the Apes is looking great.It's true. I was like, there's
a lot of monkey movies coming outthis year. I was like, damn,
okay, we're doing a lot ofmonkey things, and I like how
and all the movies have kind ofdone this. They sort of hide humanoid
features in The Monsters yea. Likesomeone that pointed out as they put a

(36:12):
clip up where Kong literally says comeon. He just says it in like
a grunty way. It was like, oh, and you're like, oh
shit, yeah. And in thesame way that like Godzilla fucking laughs and
Godzilla versus Kong at Kong. It'sjust it just the way it's hidden very
well, so you might not noticethat he's like like laughing at him,

(36:35):
or the King of the Monsters thingwhere Godzilla goes woo. Yeah. Like
my one of my favorite little thingsthat when Guard has admitted to is that
Kong Godzilla here is very based onhis cat and I feel like there's a
lot of that going on here whereit's like less human and more cat,
you know, like which Toho Godzillais very cat like, especially in a

(36:57):
hearing so that tracks that tracks,You're like, that's cool, and like
that's where you get the call seemhim curling up in that, but also
him barking at the helicopters, youknow, like and just kind of just
generally the way he like pounces aroundhere where he's like running on all fours
at some moments and you're just like, okay, like I'm I'm actually like

(37:19):
I kind of like that, youknow, like where it's just like a
little bit more animalistic in a lotof ways, and you know, like
just kind of showing that off nowI did. I do like that Kong
doesn't actually lose the first fight toScarking, Like I like that he kind
of beats them, you know,like he shows up and Kong's like I'm

(37:40):
the King, let's fucking go,you know, like and he beats Skarking
and Skarking's like cheat code and usesshe moo to like fight him back.
Now, I do kind of likethat. They're like, I know,
it's kind of a cheap cliche tojust do evil versions of the monsters,
but I kind of liked that itwas evil King Kong and evil Godzilla,

(38:05):
you know, like like because sheMove's not really evil, and I kind
of like that that she Mu waslike, oh, Scar King's dead,
all right, peace, I'm I'mdone, you know, like I don't
need to fight you guys anymore.Fuck that, you know, like at
the end of the movie, hewas just like, no, no,
no, I don't want to die. You know, He's just like,
I'm cool. You made me think. He's like, oh, we haven't
done ice yet, have we?No? Sure? And according to uh,

(38:30):
you know, Adam Winguard, isshe Move's based off of a concept
from King of the Monsters or somewherebefore, where they had an ice monster,
and they were like, oh,that's cool, let's use that.
You know, I don't doubt it, just because there are so many titans
in King of the Monsters that barelyhave anything to do. Yeah, and

(38:52):
you're just kind of like, wait, hold on, And I do kind
of like that the spider is fromKing of the Monsters there and the the
I keep forgetting his name. Butthe thing in the ice caps the monster,
it starts with yeah, yeah lookingthing. Yeah, like that was
from King of the Monsters too.They show that for a goddamn second,

(39:13):
you know, like, and you'rejust kind of like, okay, so
they're paying off these monsters. Youknow, what's up with Behemoth? Yeah?
I like the mammoth, I likethe one. I want to know
what's up with that big fella?I like that guy. I know,
I almost like, you know,I haven't watched Monarch yet because I don't
have Apple TV, but I waslike, if Monarch doesn't address Behemoth,
I'm fucking done with this show,like I fucked at But then I saw

(39:37):
some clips from Monarch, and I'mlike, I may have to get a
seven day trial just to watch someApple TV. Yeah, bing it and
ted Lasso and then Bounce. I'vegotten to the point where I literally start
the trial and cancel it as soonas I've started it, so I still
have like the week, so ifI forget, then it's gone, right,
And then if I really want to, then I'll just pay for a

(39:58):
month. And now again, that'swhat are hoping for that you just kind
of just forget. Yeah. Imean that kind of happened with Shutter for
me is that we like got itfor October and then we forgot about it
and it just kind of kept beingon our account. We were like,
oh shit, yeah it needs thesupport. Yeah, absolutely, And I
do want to see The Devil.Uh the after Midnight with the What is

(40:24):
that fucking movie? I know whatyou're talking about, the David Desmouchin movie.
Yes, yes, exactly. Itlooks it looks Late Late Night with
the Devil, Late Night with theDevil, that's it. I was like,
yeah, it seems super interesting.That does seem super interesting. I'm
like, okay, that seems likea fun horror movie. I've also creep
shows on there now, so watchthe original Creep Show. I would love

(40:44):
to talk about it this October.No, that sounds good. I have
never watched Creep Show, so thatsounds good to me. But to like
kind of get to the point ofthis is that, like the the end
fight is fantastic. I do lovethe like Kong Godzilla fight in this,

(41:05):
like them fighting through the Pyramids?Am I upset they destroyed the Pyramids?
Yeah, and you know, likehim stopping through the Rome aquedoct. You're
like, oh, that's just thousandsof years of history Godzilla goddamn it,
you know, but I do loveI kind of love the sequence. Yeah
it's true, but I I dolove Kong using the Pyramids as like cover

(41:30):
running from Godzilla. Like I dolove that. Like I thought, that's
that little bit right there was sick, you know, like and I I
really love like the Like a lotof people have been hating on Pink Godzilla
or what I like to call KyleKen Godzilla and like Godzilla Rose, but

(41:51):
I I think it's a great designchange because like we have big hulkin,
you know, from twenty fourteen toKing of the Monsters. He big,
he's hulking, he's standing straight up, and then you have a little bit
of an arch as he goes intoGodzilla versus Kong, and here they kind
of lean into it that he's likestreamlined. He's he's thinner, he's smaller,

(42:15):
not smaller, but like you know, he's because he's not minus one
sized. Minus one is small comparatively, but like this is he's like kind
of sleeker, smaller, faster,and I kind of really dug that,
you know, and more vicious he'sgot like the spines are a little more
pronounced, he's got the like hornsaround his face to look more fierce.

(42:37):
Yeah, I like that. Andand if you see the cony, like
and just to compare it to Minusone, they really kind of modeled this
Godzilla's transformation's face to Minus one's Godzilla, Like they're very similar face wise.
Uh Like if you see the picture, there's pictures going around of like them

(42:58):
too, net like they put himon top of each other, and like
very similar in just shape of faceand the way they do the teeth and
the way it's they both kind ofhave this like smile going on, you
know, like where it's not exactlyhappy, but it is having a good
time, you know, and you'rejust like, all right, I feel

(43:19):
like that might be coincidental because evenwhen they had first shown off Minus ones
Godzilla design, I had already saidthat, like that's very legendary ish.
Yes, right, it might notbe on purpose, but I do kind
of dig that, you know,like that that Godzilla, even though his
body changes, his face is similarthroughout what we're seeing at the moment,
and you're just kind of like,I dig that, I dig that you

(43:40):
know, like cause like we've kindof realized how Godzilla should look, at
least in our modern era. AndI think that's kind of cool. And
I, you know, I don'tthink anybody's going into this coming out being
like what a cinematic mass piece thismovie is. But did I have fun?

(44:04):
Yes? Did I have a goodtime? Absolutely? I was cheering
in my seat, Like this islike it's just one of those movies that
like gets you kind of gets theaudience kind of like talking out loud,
saying things, having a good time, which not every movie does that,
like Barbie sort of does that.I felt like Barbie did a great job
of like kind of getting the audienceriled up and like talking, you know,

(44:29):
like and laughing, and like Ilike when I went to see in
theaters, like it was kind ofa loud experience, a lot different than
Oppenheimer where everyone sits there in silenceand it's like we're gonna destroy ourselves,
I know, you know, butI I feel like, you know,
like this is a like kind ofa crowd experience in a in a fun

(44:49):
way. Yeah. And I meanyou can't complain that you got more of
what you wanted. Yeah, youwere the guys who made Godzilla Versus Kong
the highest grossing movie for this it'slike second to twenty fourteen, I think.
But you made this some more viablesolutions, so of course they're gonna
be like, you can do it. You want more of this, which,
to be fair, I did.I did. I did, you

(45:12):
know, Like I saw Godzilla xCONK and I was like, could have
more Titans, you know, likecould be a little bit further, and
they kind of deliver, you know, like where they're just like here's a
shit ton of monkeys, you know, like here's here's some other monsters from
Hollow Earths. We're gonna see abunch of them. More Doug, Like
that's all I wanted, was moreDoug the Titan, you know, Like
I was like, hell, yeah, Doug the Titans just hanging with Kong.

(45:36):
I fucking love that, you know. Now I want, on the
least on the Monster Verse side,I want another solo Godzilla movie. Hmmm.
I feel you there, especially withlike Godzilla kind of being reduced to
like a guest like a guest starhere, yeah, as opposed to more
like even billing, Like I'm kindof itching for another solo Godzilla movie.

(45:57):
Yeah, because definitely the most Ihad was like, yes, I had
a good time with cong scenes andlike yes I laughed at at the jokes,
but like at the human jokes.But like the most fun I had
was Godzilla and Mathra. You know, like that's the most like absolute cheering
out of my seat, like excitedI was during this movie. I I

(46:22):
want to counter the solo Zilla moviewith I want a solo Mathra movie.
We've seen it work before. There'sthree Mathra movies. I think we could
do it. We're gonna get legendary. Yeah, like yeah, like I'm
cool with that, you know,like I I would, I would want
that because like we've kind of setup all this Mathra mythos. Now let's

(46:45):
play with it, you know,like let's do some things with it.
And I know that that might notget as many butts in seats, but
it's still Mathra, you know,Like it's like it could be Like I
still like solo fun with me becauseI actually like the legendary version of Mofera.
Yeah, I want solo Godzilla movieon the Monster Verse side, and

(47:08):
oh, for God's sake, onthe Toho side, I need a fight
movie. Yes, we already had. We already had like the two.
We haven't had like a fight movieon the Toho side since Final Wars.
Yeah, and we've already had likethe two very serious shit like metaphor movies
with and Minus one, So likeI need him to punch something now,
which I mean they're working on youknow, Minus two, you know,

(47:30):
like I or whatever you want tocall it, Like we'll see, we'll
see what they want to call it. But I even when even when like
a movie is good, they'll stillbe like whatever, reboot it again.
Yeah, the director has said hewants him to fight something in my in
the sequel to Minus one, youknow, like he definitely said he's like

(47:52):
he enjoys Godzilla fighting things. Itwas just wasn't this movie, you know.
Yeah, And I'm like, okay, cool, I want to see
that, you know, like causethat sounds like it feels like it fits
these sensibilities that he's that he has. And yeah, and him addressing the
fact that like he wants to finda way to marry that sort of like

(48:14):
yes, we're here for like theKaiju versus Kaiju stuff, but you can
still have an engaging human pot plotat the same time, I was like,
oh good, someone said it's impossible. It's true. They didn't like,
there's a lot there's over thirty godsa little movies where they're like,
huh, how do we do that? You know, like it's just kind
of like, huh, we eithermake the human plot overbearing and okay,

(48:37):
or we do uh we do lotsof kaiju action, you know, like
it's like neither or and you know, like and I feel like Minus one
was the perfect final balance of thatwhere we had a really engaging human plot,
you know, like and I waslike, okay, I mean I
think Bilante does a lot a goodjob of human plots. I think Tokyo

(48:58):
SOS does a good job of humanplot. GMK does a decent job of
it too, because they go forlike the Godzilla as avengeful spirit punishing mankind
for nuclear testing thing. It's soweird. It's like the only one where
was just like Godora is the goodguy, right, he's a good guy
here? What the you know,Like, I I'm with you there though
you're like wait a minute, butI like that, you know, like

(49:22):
because definitely I feel like that wasthe fun of Minus one is that Godzilla
is the bad guy, you know, like, and I think that that's
the thing that's like totally they wentthe other way straight from the beginning from
twenty fourteen. For American Godzilla's theywere like, no, he's a good
guy. He help us, Hesavior of all, you know, like,

(49:42):
which I'm cool with because that's asthe gods that like grew up watching,
you know, like Godzilla's friend toall. Like but like that it's
also nice to have just like Godzail, who's just an asshole. Going back
to GMK again, White Eyed Godzilla, who's just a fucking prick. I
love that shit. I love thatshit because I and I'm with you.

(50:02):
I think that we should go LikeI know Toho might be hesitant, but
how can you say no to fivemillion dollars, you know, like is
basically they're hesitant, Like the moviesmake bank like it's positive, like these
are positively received even on like thatside of the pond. They seem to
be super happy with like the waythey the way like Legendary treats the characters

(50:24):
that they've licensed to them. SoI feel like if they weren't happy,
or if they were hesitant, thenthey wouldn't have renewed the contract after Godzilla
Versus going you know how much theyrenewed the contract though, I don't know.
I don't know, Hey, Idon't know if it's the same or
more. Yeah, because I like, and you know, a bunch of

(50:45):
people have drawn up like how theycan make this a franchise, you know,
like I've seen a bunch of like, now, you make Kong movie
by himself, you make Godzilla movieby himself, you make Mathra movie,
you know, like and you're justkind of like like, yes, we
could vilize this, you know,like absolutely, that is that is a
way to do this. And Ithink that that's maybe the step they're going

(51:08):
towards with New Empire, you know, like they are they are playing it
safe, like God's like this theMonster verse was definitely like in Troubled Waters
because King of the Monsters underperformed,Yeah, which sucks. School Island did
okay, but like King the Monstersdid not like make the profit for it

(51:30):
that they wanted. Yeah, SoGod's o Versus Gong was kind of like
it's basically why this had like nopost credit scene, even though like King
the Monsters had a post credit sceneSchool Island had a post credit scene because
now we're at the point where,like, to be honest, it's a
little refreshing. It's just like weneed to take this one movie at a

(51:50):
time, Yeah, and see howthis goes before we try to I'm on
the next thing. I am happywith that. I hope that that's where
we're going with this, is thatlike we take it one at a time.
We're not trying to spread too farbecause you know, like you never
know how this could go wrong,Like you know, like with Marvel,
like they didn't know that the KangDynasty thing would fall apart so quickly,

(52:15):
you know, like with losing anactor. You know, like it's just
kind of like, guys, it'sKang. That's literally the most recastable fucking
villain you could have picked, withall the different like variants and stuff.
Just recast. It's not that's fuckingcomplicated, right, they did that,
which you know they're talking about it. I've heard I've heard a lot of
talk of recasting recently, So Ithink it's it's almost there now, Like

(52:40):
I I it's one of those thingsthat in a world where we're having so
much fun with all of this Ido think it's time for the live action
Gunda movie. And I know,uh, Von Roberts was supposed to be
working on that Netflix show. Ihadn't really not a show worried about it

(53:00):
much since. Yeah, he hehasn't said anything other than the the picture
and that they were working hard atgetting it right, you know, like
and I'm like, cool, good, you know, Like but also we
haven't heard word that started filming oranything. Yeah, like so that he
was also attached to a Metal GearSolid movie to the point where, like

(53:21):
you were, he was actually likeshowing concept dard and stuff. Yeah.
So it's just like, huh,he's had He's had a few like irons
in the fire. I just don't. Yeah, I feel like I worry
that they're del touring him, youknow, like where they're like, oh,
here's a bunch of franchises that wewant you to make, and then
like as soon as he's put allthis effort and work in, they're kind

(53:42):
of like, ah, will thiswork? You're like, then why did
you give to me? You know, and then they changed their mind.
Yeah, You're like what the fuck? You know, Like, but comparison
always fucking with him, just likelet this man make anything he wants.
Yeah, how dare you stop him? I'm just glad this frank Is Sun
movie is happening. I damn it. In a world where we have Lisa
Frankenstein, I'm kind of like,good a serious guy's I'm furious Franks not

(54:07):
that, not Lisa Frankenstein. Iwant to see Lisa Frankenstein because because it's
Diablo Cody and I like Jennifer's body. Yes, no, I'm with you
there. I I'm not shitting onit because of any quality things. I'm
just saying like it's obviously a funnytake on Frankenstein, and I am worried

(54:28):
that. Did you see the pictureof Christian Bale with the tattoos as Frankenstein,
which like it's not as offensive asthe crow, Like it's definitely not,
because like, yes, if youwere making a modern day Frankenstein and
you're like you you follow the bookwhere they're using criminal bodies to make Frankenstin's
body, there would be tattoos onit like that. So that's for a

(54:51):
separate project, isn't it? Isit? I thought that was Christian Bale
was supposed to be in Del Toro'sFrankenstein. I thought that was sucking up
a lot today, Jesus Christ.I mean, he's Frankenstein. Anyone can
make a Frankenstein movie. Let me, I'll look up. I do get
what you mean. And this iscoming from someone who loves the Frankenstein book.

(55:12):
And they still have never really actuallytried to fucking do this book other
than Kenneth Branda trying and falling flaton his face. But I still like,
have to take what I can get. I'll take it. I'll take
it. I'll take it in Ohman, they don't even have it on
the IMBD for either Christian Bale ordel Toro. That's weird, you know,

(55:34):
like they're just kind of being likeno, no, no, we're
not talking about it yet, youknow, like which is That's strange,
Yeah, because I don't remember seeinganything about him on the cast. I
remember, like, who is cast? I think I saw. I think
it was like Andrew Garfield at onepoint. Then it got recast with Jacob
Alttle. I did mess up.That is a picture from the Bride from

(56:00):
By directed by Maggie Gillenholl. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, different
thing. I did not realize Christianbil It says Christian Bill transforms into Frankstein
for Maggie gillenhol Is the Bride.Okay, I mean domain anyone can make
a Frankenstein movie, right, Youmight have a few around the same time
and it gets confusing. Yeah,that that's I think that's what's going on.

(56:22):
I'm for me, I'm totally coolwith like a female led Frankenstein movie,
you know, like concentrating on thebride, because I feel I love
the Bride. I like it's themetaphor it's going for. I like,
I like the concept, but we'venever gotten anything modern with it. So

(56:43):
I'm I'm excited that they're working onthat. You know, like that seems
cool. But give me del Toro'sgive me fucking creature Commandos. On the
DC side, Yes, yes,I can't wait for the animated movie.
Fuck. Yeah, I'm so excited. I think it's a show. Is
it? Is it a show?I thought? I'm pretty sure it's a
show. Okay, I'm cool withthat. Uh, you know, like

(57:07):
I'm cool with them making that ashow. Look man out of this,
like DC Slate that James Gunn announced, I didn't expect that anything fucking Frankenstein
related so I'm like, okay,it's like Frankenstein here, how about Frankenstein
Booster Gold and Swamp thing. I'mlike, you've been looking at my Christmas
list? James gunn Uh yeah,no, he is. Uh they did

(57:28):
it is a TV show coming toMax, you know, like, uh,
Frank Grillo is playing Frank Rick FlaggSenior, which, like, for
me, that's perfect, you know, like I'm pretty sure that's supposed to
be like the first of the actualfirst thing in like James guns DC because
like Blue Beatles retroactive. Yeah,and but the best casting in this too

(57:51):
to best casting is David Harbor isEric Frankenstein, and Alan two Dyke is
Doctor Frostrius. Like that is that'sfucking that's that's great, that's on point,
you know, like you're adapting,like adapting those obscure ships that only
we care about. Frank Right,what's all right, What's what's next.
We're gonna do demon Nights, We'regonna do some jonah X stuff. Yo.

(58:15):
Specifically, I would freak out ifthey did Knights. I mean I'm
already freaking out with Creature Commandos.I'm like, okay, hell yeah,
let's do some World War two likeswamp Thing movie. Yeah right, you're
like, okay, like I havea lot of we're way off track.
Point is like Godzilla versus Kong,well, jo Zilla x x K.

(58:40):
It's a solid like Showa era style, just like loads of fun. Yeah.
I would say it's forward the oldschool fans I and for fans of
Godzilla versus Kong. You know,like if you were like the rest of
the Monster Verse movie you seriously thinklike we were gonna get like a minus
one style movie that follows Godzilla versusCongress, how jarring that would have been.

(59:04):
Yeah right, that'd be super freakingweird. I I really enjoy this.
I had a good time in thetheater. I will defend this.
I do think it's stupid fun,you know, like I it's a little
bit of check your and I we'reall preferred GVK the g x K.
Really, I think so. Ithink it's the even billing like I'm here

(59:28):
for Godzilla, Yes, I'm therewith you. There is that I I
almost had more fun with this movie, like because it was just kind of
fun in that like it had thatnature, you know, like it just
kind of like leaned into the sillinesswhen Godzilla versus Kong is trying to be

(59:49):
sort of serious at points, youknow, like it's trying to be more
serious. But at the same time, yes, it is a better movie
in that way. But but like, yeah, I still think the Monster
verse is going strong. I wantmore. I I I am hopeful that
they're taking it slow and we're gonnaget something good too, you know,

(01:00:13):
like instead of just being like,here's a Son of Kong, you know,
like movie. You know, likelike we're just gonna take it,
take it, take it a moment, yeah, some time. I know
there's a million ways this could go, and I hope for some you know,
oversight on that, you know.Like, but but giving Adam win

(01:00:35):
Guard more movies, yes, yeah, let's give Adam win Guard more movies.
You know, Like I I thinkhe does a fun job here,
he gives some great visual language,there's some awesome shots in this. I
I think he deserves more movies,you know. Yeah, there is like
a rumor floating around that he mightbe working on a face off sequel.
Oh shit, which I'm like,I don't know, Adam win Guard,

(01:00:59):
you are no John wo That's true. That's hard, Like I fucking love
face off. It is ridiculous,but it is like a John Wu movie
through and through, and that's whyit worked. If that wasn't a John
Wu movie, it would be sogeneric. Yeah yeah, yes, really
though, like I feel like itwouldn't fly as well as it does,

(01:01:19):
you know, like, and you'rejust like, okay, but guys,
please check out Godzilla x car.I think it's worth seeing in theaters,
especially if you've been listening this wholetime and you're like, hey, yeah,
I'm a Godzilla fan too, andI haven't seen it yet. Go
see the theories. If you've seenit already, go see it again.
Why not let them know, youknow, let him know see it,
see it in a bigger theater.That's what I want to see. It's

(01:01:40):
like, yeah, I can waituntil it's on h on Max very soon,
but let's be real, I wantto see this on Imax, you
know, like I want to seethis as big as possible. Yeah,
put that I in front of theMax. Let me go see it,
you know, Like, but yeah, is it stupid? Yeah? Yeah,

(01:02:01):
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in theaters, but we are workingon X Men ninety seven episode. I'm
watching X Men right now. I'mhalfway through C two X meng I am.

(01:03:54):
I mean to be a little preview. I'm not loving season two as
much as I like se one.Is that it doesn't get better. Deshaun
like, I, uh no,I get it. It's it's the stupid
Savage Land subplot. It's so dumb. And I didn't love mister Sinister,
like I know. I did likemore being bad and more fucking everybody up,

(01:04:15):
but I wasn't really into mister Sinisteras a man guy here. No,
And that's mostly because he's kind ofhe's a little sanitized in the cartoon,
so he just kind of comes offas like this skeletory type figure.
It doesn't actually feel like a threat. Yeah, and I was kind of
it made me even worry more becauseI know everybody's been calling for mister Sinister

(01:04:38):
in like live action, you know, in either Spider Man movies or an
X Men lie. Well, itdoesn't it doesn't hurt. It doesn't help
that, like they kind of teasemister Sinister three separate times in the movies,
right, because there's a post creditscene and apocalypse that's supposed to set
them up. Yeah, they havethe Essex fucking Corporation in Deadpool two,

(01:04:58):
but he's not there. And NewMutants is also the Essex Corp. But
he's not there. So we kindof tease them three separate times and then
never actually paid that off. Soeveryone's like mister sat Star and you're kind
of like, you know, likeI get he's great. It's good that
you're engaged. Yeah, I amagain. I do like it. I
do enjoy it, but it iskind of wild. It is wild how

(01:05:18):
much the like, just to givea little more preview, it's like how
much the continuity keeps going, youknow, like they they don't ever kind
of be like fucked that moving on. They're like, no, that happened,
that all happened. You know,yeah, at a time where cartoons
weren't really doing that, Like wegot to like the early nineties, and
that's when we were first starting tokind of do That's just like, no,

(01:05:40):
the episodes actually matter. This isn'tjust like a reset button every episode,
which even Star Trek's like what thathappened? Huh what fuck it?
You know, like, we won'tbring that up until it's important. You
know, you're just kind of likeokay, you know, like and that's
uh. I feel like, youknow, X Men is lee into its

(01:06:00):
continuity, which I'm like, allright, yeah, that'll be a fun
episode, especially from like a veteranX Men fan versus like a watch more
casual X Men fan. I ammuch more casual on the X Men side.
It's not my thing, per se. I'm a big Wolverine guy,
and you know, I'm on andoff of Scott Summers. But and of
course storm Storm is fucking queen.But like, and of course you know

(01:06:25):
I'm into Rogue. That'll be fun. You just gotta you just gotta get
through the og watch ninety seven.Well, when you get to ninety seven,
it's only gonna be ten episodes,and we're already six ins, so
okay, it should be good andthen otherwise at some point we should be
doing the AFI List again as well. Goodfellas as our next one. Good
Fellas is the next one, sothere's lots of episodes in the pipeline,

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guys, so stay tuned, getready for more, and thank you for
watching. I see you next time, See you Audios.