The Warped Shelf - Scott Pilgrim Takes Off

The band's back together for an adaptation of everyone's favorite Canadian dork and Bryan Lee O'Malley's got some new things to explore this time around. How we do feel about it as longtime fans?


Episode #151

https://youtu.be/CFl-hh_pxoI

Episode Transcript

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Hello, and welcome to the wardshowfI'm Frank Duran, I'm DeShawn Vasquez.
Today we are two artists reaching intothe pile of what would you call it
sean any sort of art that canbe films and TV, that can be
video games sometimes, that can becomics, that can be any storytelling medium

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that means a lot to you.And today something that means a lot to
me is Scott Pilgrim. I Ilove Scott Pilgrim. I think that could
be said for Deshaun too. Ithink that could be said without without question.
We are big Scott Pilgrim fans.We have a figure episode about it.

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Yeah, we already that was yearsago. That was like not too
long after, like the podcast thatlike just came back. Yes, So
if you really want to go backon the RSS feed or you know,
on on uh, you'll be ableto find it. It's still there on
you know any podcast platform. Sovery worth uh, you know, if

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you want to, if you wantthat as a precursor to this, but
you don't need that because we're we'regonna get into it deep guys. It
is interesting to note that that predatesnot only the game finally being available again.
Yeah, she's got run or yeah, the complete physical that looks like
a Second Genesis case. So beautiful, so beautiful. But it also predates

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the the Anamanagucci tour for the gamesoundtrack. Nice, I love it so
so basically, guys, Uh,we're going to talk about Scott Pilgrim takes
off today, the new Netflix.I would say, Scott Pilgrim anime you
would you would call it because it'snot just an animated show. It's an

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anime. It's straight up it's straightfrom Japan, you know, like it's
on the cuss. It's on thecuss. Uh and uh, even though
maybe it's set in Canada, youknow, so it is one of those
things where it's like either or I'mnot gonna argue if you call it I
argue semantics. But the point isis that this was, uh are basically

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pitch to everybody as finally, thecomplete adaption of Scott Pilgrim is what I
think it was pitched to. Asyou saw from the certainly it was certainly
marketed that way. Yeah, itwas marketed, I would say, and
I think most people going into itthought, Wow, we're finally gonna get
like the whole Scott Pilgrims story animated, which guys, that's spoilers, and

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it's not really spoiler because it's kindof the whole fucking point of the show.
That's not what this is. Youknow that this is a different story.
This is. The marketing definitely makesit look like this is shot for
shot, at least the first bitis shot for shot. You know,
the movie animated, you know,like or at least the comics strictly animated,

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like so so strict to the comics, like and I love to Shaun
just flex it on them. Butit's it's one of those things that you
sit there going, oh my god, I love this. They're finally doing
the books, like and they're doingthem to the letter and like not like
straying from it. Yeah, becauseone of the things that we discussed way

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back when in the original episode isthat Scott Pilgrim for the movie is a
very interesting point adaptation wise, becausethat film was basically greenlit for development not
long after Volume one of the comichad blown up, So it was in
development for about like five ish fiveto seven years. As it was going

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along and as the comic kept progressing, and by the time they were finally
working on the movie, the finallike the ending to the comic hadn't even
come out yet, so they hadto like sort of go in their own
direction. So it's not really asense of like this is faithful and this
isn't. It's more like the adand it's more like they were kind of
going on around the same time,and they both sort of took influence from

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each other. Like O'Malley's admitted that, like, yeah, the way the
movie went also influenced the comic tosort of do something different. Yeah,
and I like that, and Ithink that that's very addressing, and I
think that's what's so cool. Sothat's why I think it's so cool about
this show is that I went inthinking, Okay, they're gonna adapt the

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books, which I love. QuestionMe and Sean read them in college,
absolutely love them. Uh it's Ilove the Edgar Wright movie. We already
talked about it. It's one ofmy favorites. But uh, the books
are fantastic and they go that muchfurther. So when this came out and
at the end of the first episode, the you know, the foot drops

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and Scott Pilgrim loses uh, youknow, like, this is a big
moment because it's one of those thingswhere you're like, uh, I think
a lot of fans got really fuckingangry. If you've been online and you've
read some reviews, people got fuckingthey just couldn't recover, Deshaun. They
just couldn't fucking recover that Scott Pilgumloses to Matt Mintel in the first episode

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and they literally their brain broke forthe rest of watching it, which,
Yeah, which awesome, Deshan,I love that pop bug go the uh
it Literally I saw so many reviewsthey were like, oh, it's unwatchable.
After that they changed it and Icouldn't watch it, and I'm like,
yeah, okay, obviously you're nota fucking book reader because you didn't
fucking read the books. Because thisis I already a knew from that moment

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what this was that we were finallyexpanding on the Scott Pilgrim universe in a
unique way. On the like lasttwo trailers like the official and the then
the final that like these shots aren'tin the book, or we're doing stuff
too soon. Yeah, we're doingsomething different somewhere. I just don't know

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where and when I just didn't thinkit was gonna be so immediate, just
like, oh oh, we're reallyinto different territory now. I like this
because it's not a what if situation. I think they do a beautiful job
of tying this back in at theend and making everything uh canon and like

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and everything fun and included. AndI think that that's what's so great about
this sh oh is that it's almosthyper aware of itself in a way,
and uh it it's actually one ofthe one of the main reasons why I
love this show. It shows emotionalgrowth. Is that weird to sean to

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say? Is that fucking weird tosay about about a fucking creator and a
storyline. Like the big comparison,the big comparisons that came up with this
and like the direction it took cameup two things that I sort of agree
with. One, it very muchhonored itself, so you think of like
end of Evangelion and the Rebild moviesand f F seven remake, which also

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is just like we baited you withthe same story, but then this turned
into like a mettextual like thing aboutfacing destiny and changing the timelines are like,
oh, okay, so cool onthat aspect. I get the like,
I get the reaction to it,especially in the negative because I hated
the rug pool in f F sevenR because I don't trust because I don't

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trust Nomura and team to actually deliveron an engaging story. I've been through
Kingdom Hearts. I don't trust themto do that. But didn't you complete
the funk out of that game?I thought you, uh, I thought
you platinum that I had a lotof I had a lot of fun with
that game. I liked it alot. I didn't platinum it though.
Sorry, but the rug poll doesn'tcome until like the very end. Than

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that, it's more or less likeit's following the plot of the original game.
Okay, so relying and you're gonnabuy this second half that is after
this big twist really for that Yeah, Like the idea seven is that it's
going to be through games for theremake. So like the rug pull at
the end of you're like, wow, this is a great modern interpretation of

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that first game. The only stuffwe're changing is to just make it better.
So then to just completely go likeope, nope, we're going for
some meditextual ship just like yeah,but I don't want the metatextual shit.
It's like, yeah, but fF seven is one of the most iconic
games of all times. Just like, yeah, but it's still from three

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to four console generations ago, anda lot of people aren't gonna play Yeah
because it's old. That's true,which is fine, and it's also most
of it. I haven't completed itbecause of that reason. Is it's also
like why it bothers me less forthis because there's also a thing about accessibility,
Like the comics are just there.You can read them, you can

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play the game. It follows theplot of the books. It's not the
same thing. Okay, No,And I would say that here too.
I want to say that to anyfan who's sitting here worried and you're listening
to this and you haven't watched theshow yet, and you're going, you're
going, oh man, they changethe plot of Scott Pilgrim. They're not
doing a straight adaption. Guys.There's the game, there's the books,

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and there's the game. You canliterally read the books and play the game
and get Scott Pilgrim like literally theway it's supposed to be, and then
you can watch the movie and geta really cool, like condensed version of
Scott Pilgrim. And then now youhave this really great anime that's kind of

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a self contained little thing, LikeI really hope they don't make a season
two. I hope this is it. There is definitely a hook by the
end. Yeah, but I amstill cool with it. With that that
bit with Julian Gideon was just like, eh, yeah, right, the
like season two question, Mike,But I I like that it is self

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contained and it feels complete by theend, because I didn't want by the
end of it, by how epicit got. I was kind of like,
please close this off because this isgreat, and like stick the landing,
and I think they stick the landing. I think they do the ending
to Flash better than Flash did.And I was you going and go back

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to my Flash review. I likethat ending. I thought that was kind
of cool where he fights an olderself that's angrier. No, Scott Pilgrim
does it fucking better? What Flashreview? We didn't do an episode on
it. Oh No, I wasyelling about it in some other review.
Sorry, not a Flash review.We yell I yelled about it in some
other thing though we talked. Iwas I was fucking angry about it or

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something. It was definitely in somerecorded thing we did, but uh we
sorry. Uh. But the thisis a better ending than the flash in
that it's does basically the same thingat the end, uh, in a
better way, in a more cohesiveway, and uh, you know,

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like and in a more fun way. Uh. And I think that's pretty
incredible that like they go from beinglike, Okay, this is Scott Pilgrim
and you're like, cool, ScottPilgrim, rug pull, and then they
give you basically this fantastic deep diveon not only Ramona, who I never

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thought got enough time even in thebooks, you know, like even when
they give her a ton of timein the books, I think, you
know, they it's not enough.And I think it's great that the primary
year the primary problem is the matterof like what we're seeing as a POV,
Like Scott is the main protagonist inthe books and most of the media.

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So even though the entire this entirething kind of cruxes on Ramona's like
former relationships, we don't really diveinto those especially deeply because we're seeing it
from Scott's POV, which, inhis point, is just a means to
an end, just like this isjust someone I need to fight. And
that's why I think this is kindof a genius show where it is able

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to flip the script on Scott Pilgrim. It's able to deep dive not only
into Ramona, but each of theseexes and then like emotionally evolve, you
know, like instead of just beinglike I'm gonna beat the fuck out of
you until we're done, and that'svideo game logic, you know, like

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like Scott Pilgrim does, they literallygrow and become better people, almost all
of them. And I think that'swhat I loved about this show. Maybe
I'm just old now. Maybe I'mjust old now, and I think it's
great. But I thought that wasawesome, although it does sort of make

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me sad about what and a lotof this could be unintentional, just me
inferring a little too much into it, but it kind of depresses me about
Scott's character, because you if there'sone thing that's always criticized about Scott Pilgrim
from the very beginning, from thebooks to the movie, is Scott as

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a character, especially in the movie, where he's a little more dickish than
he is in the books, becauselike there's a section of growth in the
books, in the movie, inthe book I'm really get into. Yeah,
so having the idea that like everythingresolves itself more or less peacefully with
Ramona there and Scott being out ofthe picture, and you have that joke

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where like he's finally back and he'sready to fight, and everyone's good because
their character arts are complete, realand given, like what we do with
the future Scott stuff. It reallykind of feeds into the like Scott Pilgrim
is the worst thing about his ownseries and it makes me sad. Yeah,
but it's but come on, isit it's it's it's talking about something

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truthful there that a lot of guysdon't like to think of themselves as the
bad guy of their own stories.I know that's a very male thing to
do, is to be like,oh no, no, no, it's
somebody else's fault that I am thisway or that you know, and I

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can fix it if I fuck overthose people stuff I raise a little bit
better, or you know, Ido something else. But like, you
know, a lot of guys,you know, like don't look into themselves
and realize they're the fucking issue.And you know, and that what's really
takes emotional intelligence is to be like, you know, like I might be

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the problem. I might be thekmmand you know, you know the saying
where they're like, hey, ifyou run into one asshole, that's one
asshole, but if you run intoassholes all day, you might be the
asshole. Scott Pilgrim might be theasshole if literally he runs into assholes all
day. And it is and itis a case of like because I've heard
this before, of just like,of course, even though Scott does go

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through a legitimately touching character arc inthe books, you know, he was
still in his early twenties, likethere's still more than enough room in decades
to make mistakes. I'm sure whenwe first read the books, you're just
like, well, he's fine,he's leveled out, not even knowing like
what the thirties were, what ourthirties were going to be. Like It's

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like, nope, You're you're stilljust always growing, always changing. It
is a little set. It isone of those things where like I'm not
sure book Scott would have fallen backon his old bullshit so hard for the
future Scott's stuff, I could seemaybe movie Scott. You mean for older
Scott or even older Scott, whichwe are we're talking about here, older

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Scott or even older Scott, becauseeven older Scott is is obviously uh he
it's like the full in cell,you know, like even in the even
older Scott where he just thinks thatnobody else cares and he fully cuts himself
off even though everybody didn't give himthat indication. Uh you know that that

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nobody cares, you know, likenobody. I think that's one of Scott's
things is he never realizes all thepeople that are around him and even though
there's sort of sometimes sort of meanto him, they love him, you
know, they like have him around, you know, like and I think
that that's like one of those thingsthat he never realizes. And I think
that's what, you know, thisshow is kind of about in a lot

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of ways, you know, likeis that he you know, with with
by cutting off all these people,you know, like he gets into trouble,
you know, like by being lonely, you know, like by being
cut off from people and being likeI only have this one mindset, which
is a stupid fucking mindset. Youget you get you do dumb things.

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You know, like when you couldjust really just talk to your friends or
have like a genuine conversation with peopleyou love, you know, like about
you know what you're going through.Yeah, that's the thing. We kind
of already did this stuff already withlike the Negascott arc in the Yes,
yes, in the books. Yes, absolutely, with the Negascot stuff.

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They definitely like that was the wholething. So right, it is a
way to sort of do that again, although that's not even unprecedented for like
what this is influenced by, likecomics and manga and anime. You can
still you can always have both.You can have like I'm the evil version
of you. I'm all I'm whatyou could become, and you can do

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the like I'm like your literal evildoppelganger, like I Am a shadowy version,
and oftentimes they'll just do both.It's fine, it's fine. I
I do want to bring that upabout this is that I think that's the
great thing about you know, watchingand playing all the Scott Pilgrim's stuff is

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that there's a bunch of different manga, video games, movie references all throughout
this, and that's what you loveabout Scott Pilgrim you know, And that's
what I think they do so wellin this anime is that they're able to
still do that, you know,like still innovate on their references and not

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just fall back to old jokes youknow, from the from the the the
books or the or the movie andkind of make their own new references,
their own new jokes, And Ithink it that's what really grows here.
That's sort of that's sort of why, like I'm not against them doing another

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season because this series at its coreis basically a secret sequel. Yeah right,
it's a secret sequel. Will wemake the reboot part of it?
Actually part of the plot? AndI think that's and we just kind of
we kind of just pull like comicbook continuity shit, like some DC comics

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nonsense of just like we just kindof rebooted the timeline. I was dying
at the end when she was like, so you made a fucking movie that
could be a musical so Scott couldeventually know that you loved him, You're
like and she're like, yeah,it sounds confluted, And I'm like,
yeah, that's some DC shit rightthere, where you're like, what did
you do? And she's He's likeSuperman, I went into the future and

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I did this one thing to sendback to you, this one message,
and you're like, oh, thanks, I forgot about you. And now
because of that, I remember you. And now those worlds exist somewhere.
You know. That's crisis ship,you know. Like so it's like I
I love that. I even thoughit's it's kind of like self REGI racial
jokes there, it's I love that. Yeah, although the only the only

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like issue that comes about it withthem not being open about that and the
marketing if this was going to goin like a super different direction, and
maybe pushing that or maybe even changingthe time should push it now. She
said it with like it is literallycalled Scott Pilgrim takes off might as well
as Scott, which is not offbecause he's out of most of it.

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I I like that because I likedthat. I liked what they did here.
It definitely threw me off. ButI think now is the time to
kind of peel off the uh thetape and just kind of market the show
as like Scott loses, what isRamona do? Yeah, because that concern
I would help people not be aspissed, you know, Like I like

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the initial reaction because it worked forme. I thought I was going in
being like whoa, but then Iwas like, oh fuck what? And
then I was angry half an episode, and then I was fine because I
knew what they were doing, andthey were doing what is an artist but
a provocateur? But yeah, andyou got to grow. And I think
that's what this whole fucking show isabout, is artistic and emotional growth.

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And I think that that's what thisshow does so well as it's able to
weave that into the plot. Butlike, what the fuck, there's a
there's a big butt, but itshould not be where you start for Scott
Pilgrim, for like Scott Pilgrim Media. And that's sort of the issues that
oh, you would think like oh, if you've never seen the movie or

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read the books, you're like,okay, I'm not really into reading comics,
Like maybe i've seen the movie,but I should start here because I
like animated series and stuff like that. And you think like, oh,
i'll get here, I'll just watchthe representation just like, oh, this
is not where you should start atall. No. I Yeah, that's
why I think they should rip offthe band aid on that minimating force,

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because yes, I mean when youshould see the movie because they're definitely referencing
it. I don't I don't thinkthat this is I don't think you'd be
lost if you were a new viewer. I think you could definitely understand what
the fuck was going on. Butyou're if you can, if you can
read the books, play the games, watch the movie, at least you

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know, like that's gonna help underthe what's going on with everything? You
know? Like I don't. It'sdefinitely one of those things where it's like
Deshaun being like, no, youhave to play Wicher one and two to
play three, And I was like, Deshaan, It's fine. I don't
know anything of going on, andI'm having the best time problem. At

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the end of it, You're literallyat the end of a trilogy that was
built up. They literally built upThe Wild Hunt. The Wild Hunt.
It's still epic. It doesn't matterif I don't know what the fuck those
things are, They're still epic ofshit, you know, Like I'm like,
Damn, that's another big monster.I gotta go fucking kill, you
know. Yeah, but also isin a meditextual, Yes, rewrite of

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the entire franchise. Yes, befair, that's predicated on your knowledge of
what happens in that original timeline.Okay, I agree with you there,
that is that is very true.But I think you're very apt with your
Neon genesis Evangelian and it's referenced severaltimes in this show. Uh in comparison.

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Yeah, Episode Killer literally has likethat giant statue head of Scott Or
it looks like the fucking poster ofthe end of the Van Gallion with the
giant I was like shit. Andthen they do the ak fields at the
end when they can't kiss. They'reliterally they call it an AK field,
and then they're like the anti kissfield, and you're like what I guess

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Like, I was literally like screamingwhen they were doing that. I was
like, that was like, whatthe fuck is happening. They're doing a
direct reference, Like they're not likestrangers to direct references and always just be
the video games. Oh my god. I was losing it, and then
I was losing it about uh,and I I had to say something to
you this morning so I could rememberit. Is that the death Strand like

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her carrying the Death Stranding backpack inthe Future murdered me, sent me flying.
I haven't even played Death Stranding,but of course I've watched so much
media about this stranding. But thatjust fucking sent me on a fucking I
was dying cause, like it's sucha weird direct reference, you know,
like and it made me be like, look, that's new, you know,

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like that's a newer video game,and they're able to reference it here
and weave it into all the otherreferences and it works. Uh. Of
course the Virtue Boy joke was fuckingsending me also. I was dying that
They were like, yeah, wegot VR in the future and I both
clone high fans. I'm sure youappreciated will Ford Tapel older Scott. Oh

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my god, so yes. Iwant to say that is that you're probably
going into the show because of thecast. I think the cast is absolutely
fantastic. I can't believe they goteveryone back. Everyone's fantastic being back.
Uh, it's it's it's a dreamfor any fan of you know. Uh.
Yeah, we have Pilgrims, wehave male writing it himself. We

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brought back the entire cast like ofthe movie, aside from the Twins,
because the Twins couldn't really speak English. That's why they never talk in the
movie. We bring back on aManagucci to the score for the game to
work on new music for this,and we have Science who's like already he's

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like already like a growing titan inthe anime industry to animate it, right,
So kind of the perfect storm,which again I also get why that
sort of feeds into the like,wish they just did the books because they
could just do that next season.I wouldn't even be mad if if Scott
Scott Pilgrim season two is just themdoing the books, because because fuck it,

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we did it, you know,like we did the fucking contained Ramona
Flowers Adventure. I love it.Uh. The other people I wanted to
point out from the cast here thatare new additions that I think are hilarious
in every role. Stephan Johnson,you know him as like the TikTok Uh
food or view guy. You knowyou've heard him on many videos. He's

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got that deep voice. He's theannouncer for this whole show. Incredible,
like the man's voice was made forthis and I was so excited to hear
him talk, like I'm subscribed tohim on you know, on YouTube.
Shorts and I was like, oh, that's fucking amazing that he's here and
doing a maze, like doing itawesome. Uh. The other I mean,

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of course, the Simon Pegg andNick Frost cameo was really fucking funny.
I thought that was that was great. Love that the direction. I
was this, this is what Iwas gonna say. Is that Edgar Wrong
voiced by Plinkly or you probably knowhim as the actor Kevin MacDonald. It
was, I, I don't know, that guy is fucking funny. I've

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seen him. I actually seen himlive. I've seen him do sketch comedy.
Uh, he's fucking funny. Sohim being Edgar Wrong was I was
dying. He was so good becauseit's you know, if you're Lelo and
Stitch fan, he's Plinkly and that'sset. You're just like that's fantastic,
Like that's just too good. Uh. I thought that was such a great

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ad to to this. And thenyeah, Will Forte as Old Scott that
was great because he played you know, it's it's a it's it's a great
thing because you're saying Clone high.But I immediately thought of Last Man on
Earth, you know, like it'skind of a reference to his other show
that he's like the last Scott youknow. Can you just like, oh
no, that an aide from CloneHigh isn't unlike Scott Yeah? Help?

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The fucking revival of Clone High alsosort of does the thing we're like,
Abe's not really the lead in theClone High reboot really kind of shifts to
Joan Ye. Both are like thesame intent to be like, this really
should be about her, at leastfor now. And I also loved Finn

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wolf Hard you know, Stranger ThingsBoy as a teen teen Scott Pills.
That was interesting because I could totallysee if the movie was made today them
casting him as Scott, right.I I, Yeah, I think that's
exactly on the money. Is thatI would watch If you were gonna do
another more live action Scott Pogum FinnWolf Heard wouldn't be a bad choice.

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But you shouldn't. You should keepdoing more of these animes. I would
keep watching them. We crushed these. I crushed this in two days,
DeShawn, you crushed it a daythe day came out. Yeah, Netflix,
if this is what you want,you want us binging these shows that
this is the fucking formula give meexactly the this and uh a art an

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artist fucking flexing their growth on fuckingNetflix. I fucking love that shit,
fucking love it. Uh so uhso, de Sean, what what is?
What are your thoughts about like theOnce the Once the Shoe Drops?
What do you think about the pacing? Because I think it does get to

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it, but what do you thinkI enjoy it? Because one of the
things that will surprise you if you'veonly seen the movie and then you've read
the book, which is like me, I saw the movie first before I
read the book, is how muchmore of a character piece the book is
and how much slower it is.Like, yeah, it has action set

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pieces, it has big video gamereference, he fights, but it is
almost like a slice of life rightwith the occasional like anime nonsense, and
it's really just about like the charactergrowth. So the fact that it felt
so authentic to the books in thatrespect that we're really focusing on growth here,
like mending relationships with all these differentx's that Ramona's able to do just

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on an inner personal level instead ofjust leveling it to the guy just like
I'll just bunch of them, that'llfix everything. I also really loved the
every episode having the Ramona dyeing herhair kind of as a signal that,
like, this is something you've neverseen before. You've always seen Ramona show

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up and she has different hair,and now you are seeing what she's doing
almost every morning, which you knowis probably not good for your hair.
But like you know, like it'slike what, it's never been good for
your hair. It's not gonna stopthem. Yeah, it's not gonna stop
being good for here. Uh.But yeah, unless they can like like

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you know, like three, youknow, laser on a different color or
something in the future or something likethat, something to make it better.
I don't know they could three,they could laser grave a lot of things.
I'm sure. I'm sure in thefuture will just make it easier.
Won't be able to cure cancer,but we sure we'll be able to laser
your hair a different color. You'relike, oh, yeah, that's still

(31:15):
rampant, no worries. But downloadablehair, what do you think? Like
You're like, all right, allright, all right, sounds good of
fun in games, so they startcharging you micro micro transactions to live yeah,
right cyberpunk myself. You're like,oh shit, but uh yeah,
yeah, pacing wise, Like Iwas for it just because it felt like

(31:38):
the books, it only felt slow, like relative to the movie, because
the movie is like bam bam,bam bam. We can't have this actually
take place over the course of likemonths and months and months. This needs
to literally be like a thing wherethe joke is he's kind of fighting a
new X every week. I Ireally like that they kind of announce what

(32:01):
they're doing in the show. They'rekind of like, she's all she announces
that she was really into uh,Colombo, and then it's basically Ramona Flowers
doing Colombo, you know, fora couple episodes, which I you know,
I'm a detective fan. I fuckit, I'm for it, you

(32:21):
know, like it's a and evenif it's the miss Like there has been
like this revival of interest in Colomboover the past few years thanks to the
Internet. Right, everyone's like gotaccess to Columbus of it. It's good,
it's weird. It's like people gotaccess to Colombo and they're like,
oh, yeah, that's the ship. Like they're like, oh, yeah,

(32:42):
he fucking I mean, if you'veever seen a Columbo episode, the
minute he fucking does the turn,like when he's like, but actually,
yeah, but one more thing,You're like for it, Like, god,
damnit, he's got him. You'relike he's got him. That motherfucker's
got him. You know, likeit's I it is. It works the
t for It's good TV no matterhow old it gets, you know,
like it's it's fun TV. Uh. But and that's what I think works

(33:06):
here is that they're able to kindof like do that here where they're like
she gets to pull the Columbo movea couple of times after beating up people
most of the time or doing somethingridiculous with them. I really enjoyed that.
Uh. I also really I thinkthat every character here gets more time.
It's not just Ramona, like WallaceWells gets a fuck load more time.

(33:30):
And I think that's young Neil absolutelyworth it. Young Neil gets a
ton of time needed it. Ithought that that I've always needed more Young
Neil, you know, Like,so I thought it was really funny that
we got like so much Neil,you know. I was like I was
like, oh, hell yeah.And I love how like intentionally kind of
like deadpan he is the entire time, because that is kind of the way

(33:53):
like in the movie, he's justkind of like, ah, look at
this cute kid. Yeah, he'she just wants to fit in. In
the books, he's always been justkind of spacey the whole time. Yeah.
I like that, you know,I just my sleep paralysis demon.
You're like, do you have asleep paralysis deem? And he's like no,

(34:15):
and you're it's like what. AndI don't remember writing that far.
I was dying with his line whenhe was like when he was like,
why are we mixing dangerous chemicals ona movie set? That's not safe?
I was dying with that. Iwas like that. I don't know why.

(34:36):
I was so like perfect. There'sa lot of like production jokes here,
and maybe that's why I found thehumor is so funny. Is there's
a lot of like jokes about makingmovies, you know, slipped in here,
and I thought that was a lotof fun. And Uh. The
other character that the other characters thatget a lot more time, of course,

(34:58):
is Audrey Plaza's Julie. I thinkthat she's used as a fucking joke,
uh really fucking fast. Just uhthat you know, in the in
the movie several times and in thebooks, you know, like in the
books. It's very much just likeyour foul mouths friend, you know,
like and here she gets like awhole thing. And I was like,
I was like, this is awesome. Good for her, you know,

(35:19):
I'm ending up with with Gideon ishilarious because it's like, of course the
two fucking worst people would thrive together, right, You're like, ah,
yeah, that makes sense, Okay. I do like that. They were
like just like, yeah, weknow we're toxic, and it's fucking hot,
and it's hot. I thought thatwas great. I uh I,
I really enjoy that, Like thatthat that Chris Hevans as Lucas Lee is

(35:46):
so deep in here too, like, and so is Brendan Roth as as
Sorry, what's Brendan roth Todd toddingram I was done? Because like it's
Captain America and fucking Superman, Andthat's always blowing my mind that they were
just in Scott Pilgrim and now they'reback and it's not just like, oh

(36:07):
there's Todd for like twenty like twentyminutes of an episode. He's in every
fucking episode and he's like big partsof it. I mean, not sorry,
Lucas Lee is big parts of almostevery episode and Todd it gets like
a big part with Wallace and you'rejust like, what the fuck, Like
I and Envy even gets more aton more time, you know, like

(36:30):
it just feels like you're right,it's the secret sequel in that, you
know, like that it is doinga lot more with characters that actually haven't
grown from that point. So it'skind of like a reboot sequel, fun
twist, different what if situation,and if it doesn't break your fucking mind

(36:53):
balls, you might have a goodfucking time. Yeah, you know,
like like that's really it is.That. I out on the internet immediately
after that first episode though, andI was dying at the IMBD reviews.
Guys, if you want to havea good time, go to IMBD and
read all the butt hurt people.They're like, they're like what and then
it just becomes the Ramona Flower Show. And then I have to watch a

(37:15):
lady that's gay. You're like,you're like, you're like, oh my
god, dude, what the fuckis happening here? You know, like
like these these people are fucking nuts. But like, but basically, if
you can get past that, thisisn't a straight adaptation of Scott Pilgrim.
You're gonna have a fucking great timewith this show. It feels faithful,

(37:38):
it feels new, it feels likegrowth. Uh, and it has everybody
you love back doing even more thanthey ever did. Yeah, it is
one of those things where like comingout of it and I still feel a
little bit this way, just like, did I come out of it liking
it? Just like, yeah,absolutely, would I have still just preferred

(38:00):
to straight adaptations of the books,probably, yeah, yeah, I probably
still would have just preferred a straightadaptation of the books. There's a reason
why the Scott Pilgrim books are theygot recolored recently, recently the past five
years, they got you know,like and you have the movie. There's
a reason why. Guys, theseare great books. These are great books

(38:22):
there, they are fantastic. Nowit's one of those things were like,
it's one of things like I couldhave seen this as just a like one
shot sequel comic that's like one volume'sworth. Instead of calling it Scott Pilgrim
takes off, maybe you just callit like Ramona Flowers, whatever subtitle you
want to add, and just pushthe idea of just like, yeah,

(38:45):
we're telling another story, but we'realso kind of messing with what we did
in the original series for fun,and maybe I would have preferred it,
But I also don't want to takeaway from the fact of how beautifully animated
this was and how cool it wasto get the movie cast back. Yeah,
so it's just like, Yeah,that's the thing is, I don't
want people to take it the wrongway. Is that this is fantastically done,

(39:07):
well animated. The cast is fantastic. Will you be probably upset as
a Scott Pilgrim book fan that likeyou're not getting that? Yeah? Probably?
Uh? Is is that okay?Yeah, that's fine. If you're
that's fine. If you're a fanof Lisa and finally wanted some Lisa representation,

(39:29):
you're just kind of boned. Ifyou wanted some Joseph, you're kind
of boned. Although he is inthe background of like one shot. Uh
yeah, I was dying that theywere like, I'm Scott's sister. At
the end, You're just like,yeah, what the fuck happened there?
No, that's Stacy. Lisa isa blonde ex girlfriend from back when he
lived in a different province. Yes, yes, I remember that. That

(39:51):
was like the movie definitely doesn't havetime to go into all that, and
I uh, I I think thatif you know, if you take the
marketing off of it, you willAnd that's the thing is, I think,
you know you should. People aregoing in with expectations. I think

(40:13):
people gotta stop going in with suchhard expectations and start going in and being
like, Wow, I got newScott Pilgrim, because that's what it is.
It's new Scott Pilgrim. Even ifit's it's not adapting a book.
That's and that's why I think it'skind of cool. It's like, yes,
it's upsetting that you're not getting anadaption of the books, but I

(40:35):
got new content. It is thatbad? Oh hell n because it's good.
But I understand what you're saying toSean that like they did, that's
what they did. They advertised itas like, shit, man, here
it is Scott Pilgrim takes off.Finally, and the perm of everything.
We got the movie cast, wegot automount of Gucci working on the music,
we got eck it Right producing,we got O'Malley writing it himself.

(40:58):
It's gonna be fucking amazing. Soit's like, oh, a sequel,
Well, could you have prepared mefor that. I I don't know.
That's the thing is I think,But that's also kind of part of the
point, like they want to wantto they want to provoke because I I
I think we said it uh inour false start, which you'll probably have

(41:22):
to wait to see that. Butlike in we talk about that, they
bring up like the first time younotice something is weird that about this adaptation
is And there's a couple of things, but like the first like real moment
is he goes up to Ramona andhe says, you know about Sonic instead
of pac Man, and well,it's pac Man in the movie. It's

(41:45):
no video game reference in the book. In the book, he just like
comments on how he likes her shoes. Yes, before he's just like,
I don't know what to say.I'm gonna go and I I think that
that I I think that's the bigmoment where you go, wait, okay,
that was way different, you know, like that was a big moment

(42:07):
that was different. And then butthen they snap you right back to it
where they're like, oh, look, we're doing the book thing where he
goes up to Julie instead of goingall up to the party guests all over,
you know, like, and Iwas like, okay, so right
back to the book, you know, like they just wanted to try a
different scene. And then they andthen they start doing the roquet scene a

(42:30):
little bit differently, and I startedbeing like, wait, yeah, it's
like the fight is starting, butone we've already seen Giddeon like very early
on, which I just presumed wasjust like, Okay, we're just gonna
establish giddy it's an anime. Wehave to show the bag back. Yeah,
you know, we'll just have themas like a looming force over this
the entire time. But instead it'sjust like, Okay, this fight's going

(42:52):
differently. Huh, there's no demonhipster chicks. Yeah, they haven't even
broke them out yet. And thenand then the cappins and you're like and
I immediately was like, what wheredo you Where do you go? Where
do you go? Like immediately like, which is exactly what they want,
you know, like where do yougo from killing Scott Pilgrim? You know,

(43:15):
which I think is a I thinkwhich is what's fun about this.
They could have called this like,you know, like any Ramona Flowers in
like any mystery title Ramona Flowers preciousor the or if shout out to the
fucking harru he fans out there,the disappearance of Scott Pilgrim, Yes,
because that would have I think thatwould have worked if they just called it

(43:36):
like uh no, even if youjust called it like Scott Pilgrim, the
disappearance of Scott Pilgrim, you know, like or like uh, or or
just the disappearance of Scott Pilgrim orsomething like that. That may have not
you know, like it may havenot been the rug pull, but that's
what they want, you know,they want that fucking ripple. On the
first day on the internet, youknow of people being like god boo boom,

(44:00):
you know, like, but thenhopefully people fucking finish the show and
realize how great it is and howmuch they stick this landing and uh and
it's worth the entire watch. Uh. It might not be what you're looking
for, but because all of asudden it's a Ramona who done it?

(44:20):
But I think it's great. UhAnd I would recommend this, and I
and you know, warp shelf,we decide what's on the warp shelf.
This deserves to be on your shelf. I feel like this deserves to be
in the Scott Pilgrim collection. Yes, I hope they release a physical for
it, because it's always it's alwaysup in the air whether Netflix will do

(44:40):
it. Yeah right they Yeah exactly. I don't think they're doing Edge Runners,
And I know everyone's fucking losing theirmind about that that they're like,
well they're not putting out a DVDof edge right at And you're just like,
yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I understand. I get it,
I got it. But you know, and I've seen people already doing

(45:01):
like bootleg nice copies of like onvhs of Edge Runners, and I was
gotta do what you gotta do.There's been this whole like conversation about physical
media lately that, like Christopher Nolansparked because of Hoppenheimer. Yeah right,
it's so true. And I lovethat quote because it was great. He
just is like before they take itaway from you, you know, like,

(45:22):
and it's true. It's like youdon't own the movies. You sure
you own the service, but theydon't own the movies either. You own
a license to stream the movie,which can come and go based on whether
or not a streaming service or acloud service goes away. I've and with
best Yeah, and with best Buydropping physical media, this is starting to

(45:45):
become a thing, guys where yougonna need to purchase your physical media or
you're just gonna not own these movies, not be able to watch these art
or these great things you love.Yeah, there were stuff that already didn't
make, like the transition from likevhs to dv What happens to those that
never even like gott the opportunity toput on physical media? I have Blu

(46:06):
rays and uhds. I've seen thetransition of all these cloud services that have
just kind of come and gone.It started with ultraviolet. Ultraviolet's gone.
Voodoo voodoos still around, but it'snot really much of a thing anymore.
Now it's movies anywhere. How longis that one gonna last? I think
people forget how old of an artfilm is. It's not that old,
guys. It's like one hundred andtwenty something like years old, like not

(46:30):
eat like I think it's one hundredand thirty hundred and forty. I don't
know. I don't know the exactmath on it, but it's it's one
of those things that like film asa medium as an art form, it's
not that old. Like, ifwe're talking about painting, that's the literally
caveman you know, on a fuckingwall. Film is fucking like it's literally

(46:52):
the last before one hundred two hundredyears, you know. Like, and
then if you're talking video games,which we've already lost hundreds in thousands of
video games to the fucking nothingness ofnot having physical media of it. Uh,
that's literally a forty year old artthat we've already lost a majority of

(47:12):
the art of it. Yeah,that's crazy. In the same way that
we used to like fucking burn filmreels to make room because reruns don't exist
on TV anymore. We're not gonnaneed these. We just need to save
the space. That's why you havea shitload of like missing Doctor Who episodes.
Mm hmm. Yeah. BBC wasfucking dumb back in the day.
They were drinking back in those offices. They were absolutely fucking tanked. This

(47:36):
is disposable media. The reruns aren'ta thing yet. These are never gonna
air again. Yeah, but it'sit's one of those things that this is
true. This is it's if youdo not take the preservation of this art
seriously, it will disappear on us, you know, like things that you

(47:57):
that are great pieces of art willliterally apear for it. They're also kind
of points in history, shitty piecesof art. They should be able to
last forever too, fuck it.Yeah, they're also like points in history
sometimes. Like we talk about say, like the original series of Star Trek
for having like the first interracial kiss. There was actually like a black and
white series that predates that that didit first, but that was lost media

(48:21):
until very recently. Yeah, andyou're just like shit like that. That's
Yeah, there's one of those thingsthat I love watching lost media stuff on
YouTube sometimes because it's just wild tofind out how much has been lost.
Like did you know that The WickedWitch of the West has an episode of
on Sesame Street And it scared somany people at the time that they basically

(48:45):
took it off air and they theygot rid of as many copies as they
could. So basically one of thebiggest stars of the time, like the
Wicked Witch of the West was ona Sesame Street and people said, it's
a great episode where she's able tolike be like I was, like,
I'm scary as the we could Witch. But that's a character I play.

(49:06):
She's able to like explain the dynamicof playing a character to kids, and
they like got rid of it.They basically were like, Nope, too
scary, and it's been gone untillike literally twenty twenty two. Yeah,
like yeah, and you're like,what the do you want to go on
somebody's office if you want to geta companion piece to that, Like Nolan

(49:27):
like quote about physical media. Anothergood one is by Joe Bob Briggs where
he goes on like this minute afterminute tangent about like accessibility, curation,
and the idea that like the morecontrol that you give to these big companies
for distribution, the more they canjust kind of erase things and not tell
anyone. We've already seen it withthe way like showing with the way like

(49:49):
corporations when they have a show willlike get rid of episodes on a whim,
even if it's not necessarily inappropriate.They're just having that knee jerk reaction
and they don't even want the conversationto have and they get rid of it,
or they get rid of whole seasonsand episodes that are just like well,
if it's not released on physical media, hasn't been in a while,
or it's on an older format thatpeople can't play anymore, then I guess

(50:13):
that episode's just gone gone, andthat I think that's wild because like,
you know, people have put theirtime and effort into making these things,
you know, making art, youknow, and I think it's wild to
be like, Okay, no,it's gone now, and it's it's crazy
to me. But besides the pointScott Pilgrim takes off worth the watch,

(50:35):
but it is worth knowing that thisis not a direct adaptation. Maybe we'll
will maybe, Like I said,I would be totally okay if season two
was just like, all right,now we're just doing Scott Pilgrim versus the
World. I mean, Scott Pilgrimversus you know, every episode, every
book, you know, like we'rejust gonna do every fucking book. I

(50:55):
would lose it if they did thatfor the next one. Am I okay
that they did not do that?Yes? Yeah. And the thing is,
I doubt they'll do a straight adaptationnow because I'm sure they'll want to
play in this new sandbox that theyspent so much time making. Yeah.
True, I don't, but that'sthe thing is, it's a sandbox.
But It's also one of those thingsthat I feel like it's closed. I

(51:19):
feel like, yeah, they dropyeah, true, that's yeah, that's
fair. Right, Yeah, that'sthat's completely fair. I thought Scott Pilgrim
was wrapped up, so for themto do this kind of blew my mind
sideways. Also, you know,in a way where it was just like,
wow, you you're able to somehowexpand on Scott Pilgrim, even though
there's been so many books you knowlike that which delves so deep into this,

(51:44):
you know, like and we're somehowable to expand on it even more.
You know, like I love thatin a in a true to form
way, in a way that doesn'tthat feels like Scott Pilgrim and doesn't make
you go, you got Pilgrim?What is the issue? Amon? Is
he again? He? You know, like you're like, no, no,
no, First off, disrespect MaryElizabeth Weinstein one more fucking time in

(52:07):
front of my presence. Do itin front of my face. A good
Like, that's all I'll say.That's all. I'll say that she's one
of the best actresses alive and howdare you? Yeah, and Ramona is
much better characterized here even beyond likeeven if we didn't like put so much
focus on her, Like the performancejust feels so much like the comic.

(52:28):
Like, I love the movie,but Ramona in the movie is much colder
than she is in the books.Yeah, kind of like Scott is kind
of more of an asshole. Youknow. It's kind of like they don't
have time to do that growth.Yeah, Scott in the movie is much
more like adorable and like, yeah, he's kind of a dick. Is
also like whoa like kind of spaceyall the time, And I feel like

(52:52):
they dial back on that for thisto make him more like the comic.
Yes, and I you know,I again, it is a hard thing
to be like, Hey, maybeScott Pilgrim the guy you know, I
love as a character, you know, like and you know I've read and
played and watched you know, like, uh, you know, maybe he's

(53:15):
is the bad guy. Maybe youknow, maybe he is the big bad
what say said and maybe projected toomuch onto to emulate too much. I
think that's the real issue here is, guys, is that Scott Pilgrim was
never something to look up to,uh you know, not really you know,
like it was It's like he's relatable, but it's kind of you know,

(53:37):
but it's kind of like any ofthese like cautionary tale characters where you're
not supposed to be like, ohyeah, I want to be like Scott
Pilgrim, you know, like yourI want maybe. By the end,
yeah, I see yourself in that, Like, oh shit, I've been
a Scott Pilgrim and I can seemaybe and like seeing his growth both seeing

(54:00):
his growth in either the comic orthis it's just like, okay, but
I can be better. I canno and I love so I was almost
I pretty much teared up at theending there because we haven't talked about kind
of the juice of that ending therewhere they and you just mentioned it where
she's like, well, what ifwhat if he's right Scott, Like what

(54:22):
if you can't be better? You'relike what if you know? And you
know, like what if you can'tmake different choices? You know? Like
and I it really fucking it stickswith me because that's uh and I'm gonna
get way too personal, but stickswith me because that's the way I feel
about my father sometimes, where it'slike my dad's gone through four divorces and

(54:45):
you know, gone through a lotof women, and I and you know,
divorced from my mom, you knowthat had three other marriages, divorced
from all of them. So it'sone of those things that I grew up
being like, I don't want tobe like him, and but every day
I know that I am his son, you know, I like Scott there,
he's like I am you, youknow, like I am you.

(55:07):
Of course you can't make bad thedifferent decisions you are me, And that's
kind of the problem about being youknow, father and son. Sometimes you
are him, you know. Butbut knowing knowing to be better makes you
want to be better, you know. Like what they're saying there is made
me want to like break down andcry because the acknowledgement is the first step.

(55:31):
Yes, exactly, not it's likeknowing that that's who you are and
knowing to be better than that istrue emotional growth. And truly, you
know, like you you can beYou can't escape your own blood or your
own mistakes. You can be better, you know, like and I thought

(55:51):
that that was what really worked aboutthis ending here, is that it had
this ringing true moment about being betterbut also about owning your own mistakes,
you know, like about being likeRamona says there. It's like, no,
I don't want to erase you,you know, like she keep saying
to Scott, like, no,I don't want to erase you. I

(56:14):
don't like that. That's not whatI want. Your the love of my
life, you know, like evenif we are having a rough patch,
you're the love of my life,like what you know. Like and I
thought that that was so great,you know, like that you know,
like that it's it's like you sheknew that, like even though it was
ending badly, it was a greatpart of her life, you know,

(56:37):
like, and that is something that'semotional growth too, not just being up
a set about the end of arelationship, but knowing that the relationship was
great while you were in it,you know, like, and it was
is a great part of your life, you know, and that that your
life is very limited and the peopleyou do spend your time with really add

(56:58):
up to who you are, youknow, like, and I think that
that's the message they're trying to giveat the end there, And I was
like, Jesus, fuck, ScottPilgrim takes off you fucking loading this ending
in. But if I think itnails it, I think it's it's struck.
True, it made me almost wantto cry, But that's me.
That's it. That's that's me.But I I do like the kind of

(57:23):
nice send off and close off thatthis all is after that. And uh
but I think that you know,that's it's it's you know, it's worth
the watch, is what I'll say. It's worth absolutely worth the watch.
But you know, don't be uh, don't be too don't be too upset
is basically what I'll say is,don't don't get too upset when it's not

(57:45):
your book adaption. And if you'vegotten to the point where like you went
into this having only seen the movieread the comic, yeah, yeah,
no, if yeah, if you'regoing into that, I would say probably
the movie viewers without reading the booksprobably have the better thing here, where
they don't even know that this isnot doing that, you know, like

(58:07):
not doing the book at all.You know, like they don't even know
that. Like, so movie viewers, if you've never read the books,
you're you're probably you're kind of missingsome things, but also you know you
don't have to. But also atthe same time, it's a great book.
Guys. Yeah, I mean,they they did wisely when they bring

(58:28):
Scott to the future and they showedthe like, oh, this is how
the timeline was supposed to go,this is how it originally went, and
they sit like fighting the x's andstuff. They wisely only show the stuff
that was in both the comic andthe movie. They don't do anything like
comic specific that the movie didn't getto cover. I did. I did
enjoy that where they were like it'sokay, it's okay, nobody, nobody

(58:49):
worry, you know, like youdidn't miss nothing, like, don't worry
about that. I was like,all right, all right now, de
Shaw, is there anything else youwant to bring up before we kind of
close out this, uh this reviewof Scott Pilgrim. No, Like,
I walked away positive, like I'mopen to the idea for more, just
because even as a sequel, westill kind of because we have to because

(59:13):
we kind of rewrote the timeline.We also sort of get cheated out of
like the subplot stuff like I likeI want I want Lisa, I want
Kim stuff. Yeah, yeah,yeah, I agree with you. I
think that there could be more.I I don't I don't know if we

(59:34):
need to, but I do likethere's It's one of those things where I
would still watch it clean the slateenough to like to the point where you
can just have a Scott Pilgrim seriesthat's more than just about the end goal
of like the Seven Xes. Itcan just be about something else, and
maybe we can even open it upto like a different kind of like video
game structure to like make fun of. Right, Yeah, I think it

(59:58):
could. It could. Really.That's the thing is I it feels open
now. I think what you're sayingis now it feels open, when before
it could be closed off being yeah, it was pretty open and shut.
Yeah, but now we're pretty muchan uncharted territory. So it's just like,
hey, it's kind of up tothem. Yeah, I would be

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okay with this being the only season. I know Netflix loves to do that,
just to be like we did this, fuck you cancel. I would
be okay with it. But Ithink that and financially this makes sense that
they were like, Okay, weget this gigantic cast together to do this,
and we'll just do the one season. It will be done, you

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know, even though it's this gigantic, expensive cast. You know, but
at the same time you know thatthey that who knows, you know,
like I would love for them themore. I feel like, even if
Netflix acted it one, Scott Pilgrimmight have the pop culture residence now to
go somewhere else, or worse comesto worse, O'Malley could just make another
comic. Yeah, I that's that'swhat I really want here, is that

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I as much as this is notone to watch blind first, I hope
that this brings more people into ScottPilgrim, you know, like I hope
this gets people to read more.I hope people see the movie more,
you know, like I, Ihope you play the games like I.
I hope that this leads to moreScott Pilgrim. Is basically it more Scott

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Pilgrim in the world because it's ait is. It is a great read,
it's a great watch, it's agreat movie. You know, it's
a great game. Uh yeah,you know, we forget and we forget
like just how much that movie didnot make money. Like I did my
part. I saw it in theaters, not having being unfamiliar with the source
material. I saw it in theaters, and I'm glad I did. That

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was a great experience and it's stillone of my favorite movies. Oh yeah,
it's one of me and Mary's earlydates is Scott Pilgrim. So she
really enjoyed. I didn't bring thatup. She really enjoyed watching this because
she was like she was like,oh hell yeah, Ramona, you know,
like she was like yeah, likeshe's like, she's like, Scott
is shitty anyways, and I'm like, good point. I'm like, I'm

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like fair enough. I'm like likeall right, all right, like uh
and and she really enjoyed the kindof that turned into a mystery, you
know, like it I thought,you know, like I'm like it's working
then obviously, yeah, like that, but that also feeds but that also
feeds into that perception of Scott Ibrought up earlier. Yeah. Fuck,

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if you've only had the movie togo on, then you're missing like this
whole fucking development that Scot gets inthe book. That's just not there.
It's true. And yeah, andit feels yeah exactly. You're like,
hey, if you want a realcharacter study, read the books. But
I think they do a great jobof doing character studies with all the other
characters here, you know, like, and that's why I think this feels

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like a great companion piece to thebooks even more than the movie. You
know, even though it's directly tryingto be like you don't you don't have
to read the books. You canwatch the movie. It's almost a better
companion piece of the books because youcould read the books and then be like,
wow, another volume. Basically,you know, like you're like sick,
Like I would not be surprised ifthis started initially as the idea for

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like a follow up comic one shotor something. Oh yeah, I agree,
if we just made this a show, yeah I yeah. And basically
I just want this type of stufffrom Netflix more often, you know,
like this kind of deep creativity,this inspired uh new takes instead of we're

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gonna adapt another fucking anime and it'sgonna be it's gonna be great. You're
like, oh fuck, no,stop, you know, like, let's
fucking actually just make anime. Howabout that? How about that? Not
that they not spending a shit tonon anime recently, but like, let's
just keep spending money on anime.That's what I'll be on Netflix for if
you fucking spend the money on it, you know, like not saying that

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I need my fucking gun to Halfawaymovie right now, give me two and
three right now, you fucking Netflix. Fuck sorry, that's besides the point.
But but uh yeah, I uhbasically, guys, thank you so
much for listening to this episode.Thank you to uh to to to maybe
seeing this show and then uh tomaybe you listen to this podcast first and

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then you watch the show, oryou watch the show and you watch this
Thank you. Either way. Iread it. I hope it informs you,
yes, and definitely read it,read it, watch it, play
it now that the game is availableagain, because that definitely that was something
I complained about when we did theoriginal episode. It's just like the game
is inaccessible. You want to talkabout fucking preservation. Just like I want
to play the game, I can'tget it anywhere because the license laughs.

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And now you can just download rofintend to switch ship, which is why
any other separate, which is whyI bought two separate fucking physical copies of
it, one for switching, onefor PS four because they'll take it away
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we were gonna fucking crush it andlove it and talk about it, you
know, Like I so we weregonna do the French connection, but that
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his talk about him. You know, I was dying with that fucking quote
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