Ep. 77 - "Inconceivable" (2017)

How could one say such things? Think such things? DO such things?! Have you even THOUGHT about the children? Honestly, this entire ruse, nay, this entire FARCE... is simply... INCONCEIVABLE!

Episode Transcript

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Hello, mess, I'm a lieutenantin the police department. I'm in the
middle of a homicide investigation. Tryto get my prescription. Please. The
whole time you stand there with thiswhom me expression on your face? Have
you ever been dragging to the sidewalkand being tell you best blood? No

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man has spilled more blood in God'sname than I. How in the name
of Zeus is? But hole,did you get out of yourself? What
you really think? I let myselfget killed in a garbage truck? Well,
I hid in a soup can runit all the way to the city
duck because I was made for thissuper baby and I have the care who

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what is going on? Welcome tothe Wicker. I am one of those
men barely Hank Kilgore, and I'mjoined as always with my hosts, Jimmy
Bean's and Alvin Green and an umalso known as a j uh yeah boy,

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oh boy. Uh. We watchedthe films. Can you elaborate?
Are you a boy or a womanor are we going back to that?
You think, um, well,yeah, I mean you know you look
at me in in you know onand you shouldn't assume things of people.

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But but at first look, youmight say that, you know that that's
looks like a man, looks likehe's presenting. You know, that's a
man. Um, But you know, I'm more like a I'm more like
a what do you call it?Cthulhu? You know, I'm a tentacle
monster out there in a different dimension, which I don't think Cthulhu necessarily has
a gender. I think it's justum. I don't know. I even't

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talked to it, but I thinkit's more of just a being, you
know, it's it's past that.And while I am a man, I
think i'm at least three percent cthul. This idea is inconceivable. Uh yeah,
Actually I have a I came upwith an alternative title to this film,
if y'all would like to hear it. Okay, it's called boring the

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movie Boy, oh boy, wewatched Inconceivable. Yeah. Release June thirtieth,
twenty seventeen, directed by Jonathan Bank. I'm glad. I'm glad you
mentioned the historic day that this moviewas released on. Uh, this is

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this is a great day in history. You haven't done one of these?
Yeah, this is a long timefor I think I know where you're going
to go. With think, Well, there's so many things to pick from.
I mean, June thirtieth is reallythe start of many things, the
birth of many debts, if youwill. But in sixteen eighty eight,

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yep, this is where I thoughtyou were immortal seven issued the invitation to
William which would culminate in a gloriousrevolution. Yep. But I mean you
also have Einstein. I knew,I knew it was either Yeah, it
was either going to be that orthe day that chedd Atkins died. It

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was one or the other. Butoh yeah, were you were you looking
up June thirty yeth beforehand? Becausehe knew I was gonna do. Also,
two years after this movie was released, Uh, Donald from commemorated this
movie by being the first US sittingpresident to visit the Democratic People's Republic of

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North Korea. Yes that isn't consule. Yeah, our best president and and
the best thing that he really theonly president we had. It's true in
the modern age. You know,he had a he had a Twitter.

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He called Tim Cook, Tim Apple? What's Twitter? I'm on Mastodon,
I haven't heard of Yes, Yes, spread the good word power. If
we could get all seven of ourlisteners, to make macedon accounts. I'd
love to start a hashtag um forthe Wickermans and leather social media network beards

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and leather. What are you describingmy my my deodorant smell. No,
but we're this movie. It's absolutelysucked, and I don't think any of
us want to talk about No.No, I wanted to like it so
bad. No. I went intothis with relatively high hopes, thinking this

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is going to be interesting. Itwas posed as a sexy thriller. There's
most sexy or thriller about it.Yeah, it had the bones of a
good movie. We had. Here'sour casts in Cage is just there,
right, but he plays the husbandBrian. You got Gina Gershon who he
was he played with on Face Offthey were actors and face Off together as

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Angela. You have Nicky Wheland asKatie Um the director showed up as one
of the nurses named Barry. FayeDunaway was the mom. Sorry I just
read, I just read the goofssection and I got I got later,
so sorry, hand got it.Yeah, And then we had the only

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other really relevant person was Natalie EvaMarie is Linda, who I thought it
was not Megan Fox. Um,this film was very, very boring,
and there was no tension at all. And there was one scene that kind
of when she has the knife,and other than that sheuts her hand opening

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the window. Didn't find that sense. It did not tense is her reaction
where she just goes. Every timethings were about to get tense, the
screen faded to black and it wouldgo to the next shot. Yeah.
The quick Um for the few ofyou out there that haven't seen the film,

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Inconceivable, Um, it's it's it'sit's about this family when Nick cagees
the dad and they end up findingthis this woman who has a kid like
a mommy playdate thing or whatever inthe park. Uh. And then very
quickly, uh, they become friendswith this woman to the point wherein about
three weeks of knowing her, theyinvite her to move into their guesthouse and

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be their permanent live in nanny.And they're, um, a wis it
blanking on me? What's it calledsurrogate mother? Yeah, there have a
baby, but this woman, Katieis a maniac crazy person who like abducts
kids and kills people and kids isthe big you should Yeah, she was

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like the surgut mother for multiple people. She or she like donated her eggs
is what it was to to people. And and then she claimed that they
were her kids even though she donatedthem, which, to be fair,
they were her kids in a verybiological sense. Yes, I've got I'm
Probably my biggest gripe with this wholemovie is that they There's the scene where

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Katie, the surrogate mother, thefuture surrogate mother and the egg donor UM
has moved into the cage household andshe goes skinny dipping in their pool.
She lives in the guesthouse and shegoes skinny dipping in their pool and Cage
looks at her and she's very attractivewoman. Here's an attractive woman who's naked.

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Um. Cage's wife has has justturned down sex with him, and
he's looking at her Um. Andthen no sexual attention ever builds between the
two and nothing ever happens, andthey have one slight talk where she's like,
oh, did you think I wasinto your husband? I'm not,

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And then she's like okay, andshe's not. Neither of them are.
There's never that's ye. And thenat the end of the movie, she
kisses him on the lips and saysI love you. Right right before,
there was so much that was noton screen, right she's pregnant for nine
months, at least nine months,but she allegedly um but like he Page

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and surrogant mother side on the baby'sname together, like obviously there was relationship
there, Yeah, but it's alwaysshowed. It's always showed on screen,
even when it's only the two ofthem on screen in the most platonic way,
and they're always talking about Cage's wife, and it's never even like there

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wasn't even a drunk kiss. Therewas never a moment they had no I
felt like they had to have hackedout a scene or something, because I
felt like I was missing something betweenfrom Cage looking at her naked to her
kissing him on the lips and sayingI love you and nothing in between.
I mean, you're right about them, I guess figuring out the name together.

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But I thought that was more justshowing that she kind of influenced the
name because she was feeling I thinkit was her kid more than there was
any kind of like budding romance betweenthe two. And one thing Katie's character
does throughout, dear listener is constantlytrying to take over their kid, and
and it's calling herself mommy to theirkid and shit like that. Um,

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which I mean, she does ita lot, and and the actual mom
sees it multiple times. Yes.Time Number one is when you say something
about it, she waits, likewait, she waits until she's having a
baby for her to actually say something, which is which is crazy. Um.
But this is one of the Thisis definitely one of those movies where
I paused it at forty five minutesand I let out like a like a

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scream of pain because it felt likeit had been Wow. I hate to
say this, but you've said thatfor the last like five movies right after
promising us that we were just aboutout of the valley. I thought we
were, I thought, I thought, But it's it's just not true.
Maybe twenty seventeen, Yeah, nextweek. Next week is a good one,
actually, farce of his next week, Mom and Dad. Okay,

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that's at least fun. Yeah,I'll take that. So maybe maybe we're
almost out of the trough, Jimmy, We're almost there. So bad man,
But this was like but this waslike worse as far as the timing
for me the last one that wewatched, because like that one was a
terrible movie obviously that it hit it, but like and I checked like an
hour, and I was like,oh god, damn it. But this

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one I like groaned in pain.Like I was just like, there's no
way that this has actually been noteven an hour. So this I got
duped on this one. I watchedit on free V, which I hate
free VI because they We've talked aboutit on the show before, but they
put ads up at the most inconceivablespots and it is always just fucking with

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me. But I thought the wayfreeview worked was I thought the end time
just always stayed the same. Ididn't realize it counted down as you watched
the movie. So I had depositabout fifteen minutes in or twenty minutes in
or whatever, and it said anhour twenty five, and I thought that's
how long the movie was. Andthen when I posit again and saw like
fifty minutes, I just it wasbrutal to find out this movie was an

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hour forty five and felt like itwas three hours. I watched it on
two B and the same thing,and they didn't have as many ads,
at least not as when I likeI used Pluto last week and it was
relentless. Wasn't that bad? Um? But yeah, the movie, I
don't have a lot to say.I took notes after it ended because I

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was like, what are What's anythingI didn't and there's not much other than
this was boring and the acting wasawful. There was one line of dialogue
that did make me laugh because itwas really dumb. She's on the she's
the mom is like investigating who thisthis crazy woman is. When she starts
to realize that she's like a psychopathand and like like the long story short

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of it was like she grew upthe crazy lady grew up in a foster
home. Uh, and it's justlike like addicted to this mentality of like
we're all one, you know,family or whatever. I don't know.
Um. But she's investigating it,and she's calling the agency that she's from,
and that's where she finds out thatshe actually was a you know,
a foster kid there. But they'retalking about one of these doctors that was

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over there, and she's like,hey, is doctor whoever there laid on
the phone is like oh no,she she actually passed away four years ago.
She's like, oh my god,what happened? And she goes,
she died of suicide. And thenand then the mom goes, died of
suicide. You don't sound very convincedby that. And the lady on the
phone goes, yeah, she lovedlife, dude and bad. And I

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have a clip. It's kind ofa long clip. I'll probably hack it
down for the final edit of thepodcast. But I have a clip.
I don't even need to play it. We can, we can just I
can just insert it for people tolisten to right here. What clip is
it? It's it's the clip whereyah fuck it, I'll just roll It's

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this is after um Cage brings hiswife, Gina Gershon what's her name,
Angela um in for a big surprise. And it's that they painted the baby's
room and name the kid Enrique orwhatever. The Gabriel Gabriel that's right,

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And henk you remember Gabriel from theescape room in Austin? Do I the
most the most helpful escape room youcould ever have. We would have been
better off with just a cardboard cutout of a person. I hate this.
I just don't understand I just don'tknow what's going on. We got

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three clues for the whole time.Thirty seconds in he's like, clue,
can we get a clue? Blueclue please? So anyway, shout out
all the Gabriels. But this clipis is uh, it's just like an
example of what the dialogue in thismovie was. So I'll just play it.
She she said that I was goingto abandon her, Cora. You

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know, she said this straight tomy face. I'm sorry. We we
don't know anything about this woman.We don't know what she's capable of.
I'm sorry. We don't know enoughabout her past. We know she's fled
an abusive marriage. Yes, yeswe do. And if she disappeared once,
she can disappear again. Angela,just stop, okay? And what
about Linda? Hmm, you're fuckingher? Weren't you? You named it?

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You called it? That was herin the guests from that time,
wasn't it? Yes, if youhad asked me, I would have told
you. I did ask you.I asked you straight to your face,
and you lied. Did you ordid you not know that Linda was going
to be a syroticate Angela? Stop? It was Linda's death, an accident,
or maybe you want to get ridof her and carry our baby.

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Tell me, answer me this question. Answer me this question, Brian.
Answer, can you just stop pleasespaking it? You knew it, you
called it from day one. She'sa liar, she's faking, don't you.
Oh my god, make her answerthe question. Answer the question.
It's very dry, but it's soboring, saccato and boring, and it's

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like the most non nonsense words thatpeople are saying to each other, and
it's just exposition. It's like,if you were to write, here's what
I want to happen in the sceneis I want Katie to walk in and
have this conversation. But the wayyou wrote it is exactly how the dialogue
plays out. There's this one scenewhere Linda, who we should talk about

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Linda because she's the worst actress.I've ember entire podcast series's bad. But
she gets murdered, and we cango back to that, but it's it's
like she gets murdered, you seeit on screen. Her body floats up,
and it's implied that everybody doesn't thinkshe got murdered. It's already implied.
You don't need to talk about itor anything. It's implied murdered,

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not murdered whatever. And what's hername? Angela is talking to Katie outside
by the pool and she goes,um or No, she's talking to Faye
Dunaway's character, her mother in law, who by the way, shot off.
Fay Dunaway. Um, she's talkingto her, and she goes,
Katie was really good to me whenLinda was killed in that boating accident.

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It's like, who talks like that? You know, the voting like she
was really good. The original circuitmother died in the day after we asked
her if she would be our sage. Yea literally like that like dead body
floats up on shore cut and she'salready pregnant and shelling, yeah, oh

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yeah, it's it's a it's aquick cut of six months. It's crazy
because those movie is an hour fortyfive, but it feels like we like
we missed huge chunks of it somehow. Katie, Yeah, well, let's
talk about the murder. Katie murders. So they're they're they're lovers. Her
and Linda are lovers, and Lindais the other at the mommy play thing.

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Linda is the one that kind ofgot everyone together. It was like,
hey, let's all be best friendstogether. Yeah. So Linda very
quickly to comt gym or something,right, she that's their connection. She's
definitely a workout person because she's onlyever in workout close. Yeah, she
was running a half marathon, casuallyrunning a half marathon the next day.
Yeah, and they were all drinkingto like one am, Yeah, I

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better go, I got a halfmarathon in the morning. So the murder.
So their their lovers, Katie andLinda and and and yeah, Linda
is the mom that got everyone together. And like, so one they get
caught having sex in the guest room, or say get caught like she lives
there. Katie was openly allowed tomove in there and lived there, and

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and Angela happens to see them havingsex and she starts watching them. Um,
which, by the way, thatscene too was there I think trying
to play it off because this wassoon after the skinny dipping scene. I
think they were trying to play itoff that that was cage in there,
and and well they showed these likegiant man legs. But also I'm all

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so fairly certain that that was amustachioed person in that bed with her.
Yeah, I assumed it was aman. Yeah, yes, But you
could just leave it as like Iwant you to think this, not I'm
gonna put a man in the bed, and then tell you it's Linda,
right, And but then not everfollow up on it, and you're like,
oh, I guess it was Linda. Yeah, but but you know,

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so they're they're they're having a littlething, and then they're on the
beach together and and and Linda runsup to Katie and it's just like,
hey, you look a little uncomfortableon the beach. Here. Let me
put my gym bag under you.That'll be a lot better. And she's
like, thank you, babe.Um. And then she's like, so,
I'm not supposed to tell you,but I'm gonna tell you. So
act surprised. But Angela and Brianand I didn't look at his name Angela

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in cage. They want me tobe there surrogate mother. And then Katie
immediately just like, no, Ishould be the surrogate mother. Um.
But and if you think Hank isdoing a bad job portraying the scene,
he's not, because that's exactly howshe speaks. Yeah, he's talking,
he's the way he's just casually sayingwhat happened. That's how Linda was at
I don't want to toot my ownhorn here, but it might be better,

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honestly horn, Like you could bea bag of a bowl of rice
and you'd be that. She's off. The worst is real quick when she
first meets all of them and likeshe puts her arms. She's like,
are you two all best friends now? And you're just like, oh my
god. Um. But anyways,she's like, oh that no, that's

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I'm really happy for you. That'sgreat. She was, Yeah, well
I'm gonna go ride the waves orwhatever, right, yeah, And she's
in a wetsuit and she goes out, so Katie just trips down to her
like her underwear and just walks outinto the water, and Linda's like,
what are you doing? You mustbe so cold, But the truth is

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she's cold blooded because she murders.She grabs her and smacks Linda and she's
like I should be the mom andkills her girlfriend. And then what was
really funny. It's like, obviouslythe rock knocks her out, but then
she like drowns her underneath the waterand then the body comes back up because
it floats. Uh, and thenshe like tries to push it back down

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and the buddy came back up.It's like a bit but then eventually the
body just disappears. Yeah. Yeah, and then police it was a dum
dumb bell. It was a dumbbell, which was so inconceivable. It
was a twenty pound dumb bell thatshe's pulling from underwater. So there's already

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resistance and she gets it up soquick and with such force that she kills
her person. So she must bens her. Yeah, but she well,
she at least knocks her out.But they're on this nice beach and
nobody else there anywhere. It wasthat private beach owned by the Bryan family.

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Yeah, I guess I do.You know you you made the good
cold blooded joke, but she wasactually cold. And it was one of
the worst scenes that I've had towatch, is Katie in her bron underwear
standing in the ocean being likely she'slike shivering her ass. I hated that

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scene. Yeah, it was prettybad. And so then we just hard
cut so like six months later andshe's having the baby before them or whatever
it is. I don't even know, but um and Katie becomes a real
bitch to Angela very quick. It'sreally mean and nowhere and the crazy thing
too about going back to Cage whoto be clear, at Cage, he's
he's an autopilot. He is,he's he's just getting this paycheck. And

(22:44):
he's like, a, he's notthe main character here, he's he's just
the dad's side character. Um,and he's just he's just Cage Dad.
He was in a lot of thismovie, but I feel like they could
have filmed it over like two dayswith the scenes. He was easily easily
and and so yeah, he doesn'treally start acting to like the very end,
and he than that, it's justlike there's nothing good on here.
So nothing too interesting from her linesare just reiterating the advice that his mom

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gave him. Yeah, we're askingabout his mom, we're talking about um.
But he's, um, oh god, what was he even talking about?
Fuck this movie, dude, Uh, this movie is terrible. Yeah,
it's really Oh it was that.So like, you know, there's
no cheating plot line in which thereshould have been, you know, in

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a movie, like there's a verybasic movie, so they should have just
done it. And so you're likeOkay, Well he's not cheating on her,
so he's a good husband. Buthe's a terrible husband. He doesn't
believe a word that his wife issaying. It any point. Angela throughout
the movie and her back stories,I guess she had she used to be
addicted to zanex or some pain pillsor something. Um and yeah, yeah,
that was such a ridiculous line.It's such a ridiculous thing. She

(23:52):
was, like you said, addictedto to xanax. Yeah, but she
doesn't even take an iberproofen now andhe's watched her not take anything for years
and doesn't believe. She never seemedhigh at a single time in the movie
except for the time she was druggedand she's high from Yeah, because she
was drugged. And there's this zerofaith, which was great because she goes

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back, she gets she gets druggedby Katie because Katie wants to do like
I think, like a uh,well, she set her up for a
surprise party that that was a disaster, and I think she also wanted to
test her, like, look,she is actually taking drugs again. They're
both testing each other biologically, whichis interesting. But um, she she
one. Let me just say thisthey're both doctors, Angela and Cage or

(24:37):
doctors in this And I get thatKatie's a psycho bitch, but she drugged
a doctor. So what if whatif Angela had to perform surgery that day?
What if Angela had to like dosomething, you know, like you
could have Well, Angela is adoctor, but they play her off as
a nurse. I think they forgotthey wrote her as a doctor. And
then yeah, she's a woman,so she's just a nurse. Yeah,

(25:02):
you call her doctor every time shegoes into work. She's just doing nurse
duties. It's crazy. Yeah,well she's just talking to people and yeah,
and then getting illegal prescriptions for otherpeople. Um, but yeah,
she she ends up passing out inher car, but I guess she knew
that something was wrong because she justpulled off to the road and put her
part car in park and then fellasleep and then woke up five hours later,

(25:23):
drives home and no missing phone callsor anything. Well that was That
was another thing where you would thinkyou would think you'd have like a cop
show up or something. Well,I was like, Okay, she's gonna
run into a pole or hit someoneor crash the car. She's in their
driveway, just like just then therewas a surprise party. Yeah, so

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no, no one else like Isaw her when they were arriving to the
surprise party. I don't. Idon't think she was in the driver of
the road. But it was someweird road. It was like we um,
But yeah, she gets in there'sa surprise party. What do you
guys think about Katie's back school?It was convoluted and dumb. You know,
here's the thing. If it waswritten better, if the acting was

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better, and if it was directedbetter, it could have been a cool
plot because I thought the plot.If the movie was better, it would
have been better. At the bowof the plot, I like and could
have put you know, if youput the story right hands the story there.
So so you like the fact thatthis lady is driven from the fact

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that she got an infection from donatingeggs so many times that the rest of
her eggs got compromised by the bacterialinfection, and she blamed the the donation
center for getting the infection and thenhad this crazy psychological breakdown or she needed

(26:56):
to go recoup the only eggs thatshe had left, which ones that what
I like is on the surface she'skilling so that way she can steal the
kids that were made from the eggsshe donated. That's it, just the
one like, here's my elevator pitchfor a movie. I like the elevator

(27:17):
pitch, and then everything else Iwas built around it, right has to
has to come out. I didnot like, they did not do a
good job with the creative. Thisstory line, yeah, um awful And
and it felt like it was youknow, it was like I can see
this being like a like a Lifetimemovie, you know, or just some
cable network you know, mom dramaor whatever. Um. I don't know

(27:41):
what this was made for or whereit ended up, but boy is it
dull. It's it's as dull asthis episode. It's just awful. It
is so not an enjoyable watch.And the thing about it is it's not
like it's um, I mean it'snot. It's not the best made thing
ever. It's definitely a little budget, but it's not like technically a terrible
movie. Like it looks fine fora cable channel movie. You know,

(28:04):
you got you got some big namesin it. And like this there's sets
and there's stuff and they go toplaces, and it looks fine. But
it's just like stories everything, andand and and and your writing is everything.
And if the writing is bad,doesn't matter, even if it was
a billion dollar production that looked incredible, Not that this is at all,

(28:25):
but it's it's it's that's all thatmatters. And this was just fucking awful.
And most of the acting was justterrible. All of the acting was
terrible in it, and and horrendous. And so AJ, I was curious
about you because you loved this movie. So what is it about this film
that you loved by the way thatyou would I didn't. I didn't love

(28:48):
this movie. Um, it washorribly frustrating. The writing was approcious,
the acting was worse. Um,yeah, it was painful to get through.
Like the girl talk, the chitchat was just like that's the whole
movie, I don't know, talkingto each other like a you know,
like an alien species that was studyingus, tried to like or like this

(29:15):
was written by a body you wouldwrite a better script of this. Yeah,
yeah, this was this was reallysort And then like you get to
the climax of the movie where youhave this girl who is a murderer.
She's collecting her babies, and she'son the run, right, and so

(29:38):
there's like a code of conduct thatshe has to abide by so that she
doesn't get caught and spend the restof her life in a prison cell.
And so she changes her hair color, she changes her eye color. Oh
but when she tries to like becauseshe's dragon, Yeah, Katie's blonde and

(30:00):
the modern timeline, but in herpast she's brunette. But it's in the
wig. Is this massive like blopjust just thrown over. It's like a
fucking bop. They didn't even try. It was very very bad, just

(30:22):
like many other aspects of this movie. Um but Ka says, the movie
on ravels. Uh, you know, Angela is starting to pick up all
these breadcrumbs and there's a bunch oflike incriminating things that she finds. But
like, what did you guys thinkabout these like pieces to the puzzle that

(30:47):
that she's collecting, Like yeah,right, well okay, So here's here's
the thing that's the most common paintingthat people do for murals. That's why
you know, like a basic assfor she lives for four year olds.
Yeah, it's a it's a hill. Yes, here's what I was gonna

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say, is on one hand,I could see her going, well,
I'm just gonna you know, it'sfine, nobody's gonna connect this ever,
so it doesn't matter. But onthe other hand, like you're saying,
she's changing her way changing, butshe always does the exact same painting.
She always has the ex you know, it's like that doesn't make any sense.
And then when she when when yousee when they cut when the when

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I was talking about Angela talking tothe lady on the phone and the whole
suicide thing, that's she's like ontheir website for this Foster home or whatever,
and that's yeah, she sees thepainting that she's been painting in their
house. And and when I sawthat, I got really sad because I
was like, that's interesting. Ihate that this is in this movie,
like because okay, I don't know, it's like there's something there like oh

(31:53):
that's I'm like, okay, she'spsychological and and oh that's what she grew
up seeing. It's like it's likean air Deevil Wilson Fisk he sees like
the white painting that he buys becausehe always started the white wall when he
was being abused as a kid,you know, she was abused as a
kid and saw this fucking happy treepainting, and so that's why she goes
around and does that too. It'dbe great. And like James said,

(32:15):
just a better made production here.That wasn't dry as the fucking walls that
they were painting, you know,like it was just brutal. We already
touched on the phone call, don'tspend weeks. Don't spend weeks on a
mural that you know resides in thebusiness or the home of all of the

(32:37):
people that you kill. She waslike the wet bandits and the easiest way
to connect her. I like thatpart when when when the daughter electrocuted her
and she turned into a skeleton back. That was great. That's when the
fun So we talked about the phonecall. But the other funny part two

(32:58):
of the phone call is al istalking to this place and she's trying to
figure out, Hey, who donatedthe egg that was used for my baby
and the woman won't tell her,and she keeps asking these questions like was
it, this is it? Thatis it? And she goes, actually,
you know what, who painted themural in in the office And She's

(33:19):
like, oh, I can't tellyou that's a donor, and Angela goes,
oh, okay, and then hangsup. It's like, you're the
word like a detective, she's adoctor, nurse. God, well,
Angela is a good detective. Ithought she's trying. No one else believed
her. She was a pretty gooddetective this movie. By the way,
Katie and she found that that bookin on her mantle. That's another thing.

(33:45):
It's like, you're trying to hidethis, You're trying to hide this
life. Hey hide the book.But then also what exactly and what did
she find out of the Yeah?Yeah, A better movie with Cage in
this era and a more expect orI should say more expected movie would have

(34:07):
been Cage is the detective that losthis son, and if it was just
some crazy person, and Angela goesto the police and no one believes her
that Katie's a crazy person. ButCage is like, hold on, like
he hears it and he's like,wait, wait, wait, that happened
to my kid, And that's what, yeah, I kind of expected from
this movie. That would have beenjust as terrible, but more interesting would

(34:29):
have been and maybe we had somecar chases and cage doing this shitty action
thing. But instead he's just aroundand he takes the kids to the zoo,
which we don't even We don't evenget to see them go to the
zoo, which wouldn't have been better, but at least we'd see some animals,
you know, like something acting likeyou said at the end, too,
is just phoning it in horrific.Oh's the last scene is just so

(34:52):
bad. But so Katie was supposedto be played by Lindsay Lohan and then
last minute that would have been Let'splay a quick game. Guess the budget.
Guess the box office for this movie. I like this. Um,
my guest for budget is thirty milliondollars and my guests for box office is

(35:22):
seven million dollars. Ad. Iguess for budget is twenty million dollars.
My guest for box office is eighthundred thousand dollars. Budget twelve point eight
million, box office two hundred andfifty nine thousand dollars in your old edition

(35:52):
of Guests the Budget, which alsojust reminded me of that we have our
scores written down. Well, wethink the other people are going to score
this movie. So I'm excited,right, let me pull that up.
I forgot excited for that. Yeah, so I did have one, Well
I have I have a couple ofnotes. But um, so there's a
couple of things. Maybe we couldjust go through them through my through the

(36:13):
notes real quick. One. Whatdo you want to get? Yeah,
so there's there's just a couple ofthings. There's one. Um, they're
having this Memorial Day dinner where it'sKate, it's Angela and Brian and Brian's
mother played by the great Fade Donaway. There's Umda Linda, and there's the

(36:34):
kids, and and Katie's there umto meet everyone for the first time.
So it's kind of a small thing. Um, but she's she's meeting Brian
and the mom and they're just kindof messuring the families and after dinner,
Um, they forced Katie to doa speech. The hell was that?
Oh? Yeah, weird? Itwas so weird. What was the movie

(36:57):
we watched where oh he was talkingabout like, oh where does it drive
angry? No, it was recentwith like the brother and the Arsenal person
Arsenal. Yeah, it was almostlike that, but like, ye,
and I'll remember anything about it.Yeah, that's okay, you're right.
Yeah, oh god, So thatwas one little thing. And then a

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couple of scenes later, Cage Brinanis sitting outside with his mom and or
he walks out and she's sitting thereand he pours her lemonade. And I
don't say a glass of lemonade,because he small pours the smallest amount of
lemonade that you can possibly pour intoone person's glass. I'll send you guys

(37:42):
in the chat right now. Itook a video of it because I was
so astonished by it. Um.It is the tiniest little dash. Actually
i'll rewatch it as well. Sothe tiniest little dash of lemonade. And
I just I don't know what thatwas all about. He wasn't topping her
off. She had an empty glass. Look if that's not even close.

(38:07):
It's it's like when the waiter ata restaurant comes over, like he can
if your water, and you go, of course, and they start pouring
and then they run out of water. Go oh, I'm sorry, I
let me go get a new picture. You know. It's it's not amount
of water or but it's a fullpicture eliminated. Yes, yeah, yeah,

(38:30):
it's a sort of drinking wonderful wonderfulscreen ground. When is this?
This is a should glorious? Dowe still have a Twitter? You should
post that to our Twitter account becausethat's a good photo. You know what,
I think we do still have aTwitter? That guy looks pretty well.

(38:50):
I'm gonna post this to our Twitterright now. I look at his
chest, Look at his chest.Remember when we saw that in his first
film ever running on the beach withthe Batman's signal in his in his hair.
You know what, where's that guy? You know? We need that?
Oh? Yo? Can I justsay fuck this movie? It's a

(39:12):
problem when like you're you're your fouryear old actor, your four year old
children actors are better actors than thanthe adults. The blot in the whole
movie, and and in her linesare just am you know, like it's
it's it's a um yeah, yeah, work children. Um. Should I

(39:32):
pay for Twitter blue so that canreach maximum potential? That makes sense?
That's important. I think it's agood call. Um Yeah do that?
I? Uh, did I havenotes? Well? We can, I
said. The only tension I everfelt was during that knife standoff where they
she comes back call after being druggedand and they have a surprise um um

(39:55):
baby shower for her, and infront of all their friends. Apparently these
are all their friends. We've neverseen these people, but here's all their
friends at this baby shower. Andthere was all the like old people,
but I guess they're also like intheir fifties and they're like trying to have
kids. Like, well, therewas old people, but there was also
like little kids there, yeah,but but not like there was like twelve
and thirteen year olds there extended family, you know. Yeah, and you

(40:22):
know he's obviously she just got drugs. Shets just immediately screaming at Katie just
like why do you she drug being? And you don't believe me, and
blah blah blah blah blah, andCage like all right, everybody needs to
go. Um. So everyone leaves, and then Katie or Angela runs in
the kitchen and the wife is freakingout, and the husband goes because Katie
goes, Cage, I'll go,I'll go, I'll go talk to her.

(40:44):
He should go talk to her.Instead, he grabs his drink and
he just starts drinking and walks awaybecause he can't. He can't deal with
this anymore. You know, He'sdone he's gonna go check on his motorcycle
that he drives to the hospital.He just he's just trying to avoid conflicts.
Yeah, I have a son,just wants game. And so they
go into the kitchen and sure enough, you know, when Katie walks in,

(41:04):
Angela grabs a knife and and Katie'slike super pregnant at this point,
like all the eight or nine months, ready to go. H And Angela
grabs a knife and she's like,say the funck away from me. I
know what you did. I'm gonnayou know, I'm gonna get you.
You know you're gonna be out it. You're you're done, you know.
And she's like, you wouldn't wantto stab my daughter, would you?
And you want I want to dothis and and and then Katie walks up

(41:25):
and just like walks into the knifeand like stabs almost kills their own fucking
baby, stabs herself, starts beatingherself up and bangs her head like against
like the cabinet, make it looklike she's getting attacked by Angela. Well
that, you know, that reallypissed me off, because Katie's whole motivation
in the whole movie is just shehas this weird psychological issue with with kid

(41:49):
upbringing, and she wants the perfectlife for the kids, and all she
cares about are these two kids andthe one future kid that she perceives to
be her kids because she don't eggs, and that's all she cares about.
It's her only motivation for everything shedoes in the movie. And then that
scene she stabs herself in the belly, belly, which doesn't even mean like

(42:14):
she would do anything to protect thatkid. It didn't make you know,
it's like the one thing she shouldhave DoD. That's the one line she
she wouldn't cross, based on whatwe know about this character. Yeah,
she she could easily do the thingwhere she hits her head against the cabinet
and easy makes it look like she'sbeen her or cut her arm or something.
But she stabs herself in the fuckingbelly, which, like you said,
that's her whole motivation is children.She could have sliced herself. But

(42:38):
that was that was the scene whereI felt literally any slight tension just because
I'm like, yo, like,because a pregnant lady and knife, and
you know, that's the scary kindof thing to look at. But it's
just like after an hour and thirtyfive minutes of what you couldn't it's not
an action movie, it's a drama, but like, there's so much more

(43:00):
action elements, intense moments that youcan have, and there's nothing until the
one bit of light at the veryend, which wasn't and then they go
to hospital and then sure enough,and that's when they get to go to
hospital, and the doctor who's alsothe fucking director of the goddamn movie is
like, here's the tests that showthat that she's is taking other people's daughters

(43:22):
her eggs. That's that your wifewas right. And well, that's not
even what he says. He justsays, here's the DNA results and cages
showing that a mother and daughter ofthe same DNA, no names or anything,
and question it. He's handed that. Not that he knew about this
ever had I did like doctor Barrythough he looked like he looked like a

(43:42):
real pervert, and I kind ofjust liked that all of his sheens seemed
kind of dark and he I don'tknow what his relationship to everyone was.
I couldn't tell if he was bangingFade Doun away or what his deal was
but I like that. I likeDoctor Barry. Do you remember that episode
of Always Sunny when and they quarantinethemselves and Frank goes crazy and like takes
all the hair off of his body. And at the very end of the

(44:05):
movie he gets into the hospital anda super hairy doctor walks in and it's
like time for year, you know, to hear you up, Frank.
He looks like that guy. Helooks like the super hairy nurse that that
Yeah, he looks like that guy, but directs, but without the hair
and a little bit more perverted.A much better actually, speaking of Sunny,
a much better version of this movieis the episode where d tries to

(44:27):
be a surrogate and it takes overthose people's couple's house. Way better and
it was only twenty minutes. Yeah, and yet, Vic vinegar Um,
I'll say this, this, thismovie is not It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
No, yeah, yeah, yeah? Does anyone else have notes on

(44:50):
this? Should we move on?Is there anything else to cover? Well?
I feel like we can't talk aboutthis movie that talking about the lethality
of getting stabbed in the stomach,right, because at the very opening scene
we have a we have a gutwound, and uh, you know,

(45:13):
we're made to believe that she iscarrying her own child, right, who
grows up to be Maddie. Butreally she's stealing this child from whoever had
the kid with her egg. Whenthe husband comes home and he's like,
what is this and he starts chokingher out and then doesn't do anything else.

(45:36):
He's just stuck choking her out,choking her out. She stabs him
in the stomach. He doesn't evenflinch, He's just choking her out.
She stabs him in the stomach againand he just immediately drops the floor.
So she's she's witness stomach stabs.But that but that's not how stomach wounds
go. I mean, like,if you want to kill someone that fast,

(46:00):
you know a lot about stabbing.I forgot, well, you don't
know, she might have lacerated asI'm a comed ben and then his end
trails were hanging. No, youcan, you can. You can be
holding your intestines right and walking around. It's like AJ's right, I mean,
it's whatever. What was Katie's like, what was her end game with

(46:21):
this? But then she stabs herselfin the stummach and she stabs Angela in
the stomach and Angela also presumably dieson contact. Angela is alive. It
doesn't well that. You know whatwas weird when they pulled the wool over
she was walking out and the doctorpulled the doctor pulled a little prank on
old Kagie boy because the doctor walksout and Kie says, how is she?

(46:45):
And he just shakes his head,So you just assume Angela is dead?
Why was that guy shaking his head. I'm gonna go on a limb.
Yeah, and they did a badjob with it. I'm gonna go
on a limb and say that Angelatold the doctor to do that in Cage
was in on it like like likebecause it was in film. I told
the doctor to do it to Cage, Yes, because then he'll freak out

(47:09):
enough and make it real even thoughhe already knows that she's innocent. Why
it's all a single cut where hethen just is you know, he pulls
the wool over her. It's stupid. It's really stupid. I want to
ask you, though, do youknow the connection between this movie and the

(47:30):
other movie that Gina Gershon was inwith Nicholas Cage Face Off. There's one
big connection. Do you know whatit is other than them being in the
movie together? Yes? Is it? Um? Is it that I wanted
to write my face off when Iwatched this film? As you know what,
that's a good one. John Travoltais not it. Um, it's

(47:51):
not a very strange adoption takes placeat the end of the each film.
In in Face Off, Um,John Travolta's character strange and just murders Nicholas
Cage's character and then adopts his kid, right, um, and actually Gina
Gershon's kid in that movie, andthen in this movie, uh, Cage
and and Gina Gershon put Katie awayfor her life and then just adopt her

(48:14):
kid. Yeah, she's just livingwith them. At the end of I
did love when Cage is like,hey, you see your daughter. Yeah,
that's the last time you're going tosee because you're going to fucking jail,
bitch evil. That's also not howvisitation work it was. But but
I was like, all right,I'll take that. Um, that's it

(48:37):
for me. I'm tapped. Yeah, uh yeah, inconceivable. Let's move
into a little segment um uh uhwith goofs and nice staffs with and the
it's inconceivable. The final thoughts youalmost forgot. I don't even say I

(49:00):
have no thoughts. This movie isempty to me. Well, so here's
here's the thing. You would wait, what if the baby was John Travolta.
Could be it could be a prequel. That would be great. That
would be great. And that's whyCage character looks like Cage because he's his
dad, because he's him. Yeah, that would be That makes sense.
Um. Yeah, here's the thingthis movie we've talked about a lot.

(49:23):
Um. That's also why they wouldhave compatible blood and be able to do
it's castor Troy. And that movietakes place in the future. So is
that in the trivia because that hasto be No. So I didn't even

(49:45):
bother. I didn't. I didn'teven want to look at the trivia.
I just no. But we youknow, we've ripped this movie apart kind
of. Um, but there wasactually there was only one goof in the
movie. So I got to givehim that there was only one goof in
the entire movie. Um, letme let me know if you find this
interesting or not. At about twelveminutes when she's I don't know who they're

(50:05):
talking about, but at about twelveminutes when she's taking picks, she's got
her fingers over the lenses. Oh, it was Linda. Linda was taking
the photo. And that's for thatepisode, folks. I don't necessarily find
it interesting. Well, hold on, maybe I do. It is it's
kind of interesting because why were herfingers and the whole thing with the photo

(50:30):
in the initial part when we don'tknow if Katie is crazy or not.
When their first meeting her, she'slike, hey, let's all take a
photo. And because like, oh, I don't want to take a photo.
I don't want to be seen inphoto, you know, And she's
like, oh, come on,think a photo. She's like, I
really don't want to Okay, fine, and then she like, right before
they take the photo, she quicklycovers like most of her face with her
hand, so she's not seen inthe photo. Um, but I guess

(50:51):
it didn't matter because she had thelady taking the photo had her hand over
the goddamn lens anyway, So you'resaying, all right, yeah, I
give it's him because because of thecontext of the film, Yes, it's
a good job. And there wait, hold on real quick. If women
were the kind of creatures that wouldtake multiple photos and then select the best

(51:15):
one where she'd be like, hey, Katie, stop covering her face,
one and done, but she goddamnpool picks, you know, you know
camera there? What real quick?I just remembered, what did we think
of the moment when Angela is inthe kitchen and realizes that Katie covered all

(51:38):
the photos of her face evangelists faceand you still saw but no one else
that was So that was another Ididn't even get that. Why didn't you
do that? I just don't knowwhat this woman was trying to accomplish.
And if you wanted her kid justkidnap her run away, you know,
like they were trying to do likeso many different things, like there was

(51:59):
they were trying to do the sexualtension thing with Cage, then they just
decided not to. They were tryingto do psychological torture of Angela, they
decided not to. They're trying tomake her a kidnapper. Then it was
like, wait, is she tryingto just move into her life or yeah?
And we see her murder two peoplein the movie in the very beginning,
and then Linda so like, ah, she she she's a serial killer.

(52:28):
Right, And part of that psycheis like wanting to be known for
the things that you've accomplished, right, So I think she's kind of proud
of that. I don't think she'sa I don't think she's a serial screaming
cereal killer. I think she's aI think she's a killer out of necessity,

(52:50):
seal a killer out of being akiller. By the way, we
should maybe start. You gotta realizethough, that she looked up these families
to see where her see her eggsor right, So, she'd been stalking
Angela for quite some time. Decidedthat Linda, Angela's friend would be a

(53:15):
good person to pray on, butshe didn't. She wanted to make sure
that uh sure what was her name, Angela was a good mom, right.
That was the thing too, whereshe was like, yeah, because
as long as it's a good shenever I don't think her intention was to
steal that baby. It was tokid. Yeah. She she was so

(53:42):
deranged, Like what she would tellpeople is, oh, yeah, I'm
just I'm concerned that you're not goingto be a good enough of it.
Why because you're working and like providinga good life to his baby. No,
she that was her defense for herbeing fucking psycho. She was absolutely
going to kidnap that baby no matterwhat, because it's my baby. Things

(54:07):
like this is what inspired the TalkingHeads to write Psycho Killer. Yeah,
and then go back in time andrelease it like that's so wild about that
was like Marty McFly situation. Yeah, Back to the Future Part three saw
this movie and then was sent backin time and started the talking it.
Yeah, and and that's why DonaldTrump used that song as his introduction anthem.

(54:32):
It always comes back. Well atthat. That's a great time to
take a break as we pop intoour other zoom because we're not paying zoom
right now. We'll be right backon this episode of The wicker Men.
Thoughts ba ba booe hey, Jamesba ba booie baba booe h baba booie

(55:29):
h m hm m hm h mhmm. There's nothing quite like seeing cock
Socks has joined the meeting. Yeah, that's nice. That's pretty nice.
I like that. Uh oh thereit is, um gotta keep for cocks

(55:52):
one. It's true. It's totallytrue. Well, uh, let's ut
ready to We have Katie versus Angelain the Inconceivable Showdown. This is w
W E and a little segment Ilike to call final thoughts and rating?

(56:27):
Hey, James, um, whatare your what are your final thoughts and
rating for the film Inconceivable by directorJonathan Baker. Yeah, if you were
to ask me, okay, wellthis will fit, then will you help
me with my final thoughts? I'dlike you to ask me was this a

(56:49):
movie? Okay, James? Wasthis a movie? It was? This
was a movie, And those aremy final thoughts? This was? And
um, my rating portion of itis hard. This sparts harder rate because
I'm trying to wait, wait,wait, wait wait wait, do we
sorry, do we say the ratingswe thought we'd give to each other before

(57:13):
you give your rating? No,because I don't want it skewed. I
feel like we should go through theend and then we'll I'll give my rating
and then you guys tell me whatyou thought I was going to rate it.
Okay, So we'll give all ofours first, Yeah, and then
we'll say what we each thought.Because James is competitive and he would he
would change his answers. Yeah,if you said like a six, and
I'd probably it. Wow. Thatyeah, unethical at best? Exactly?

(57:37):
Okay, it's all right, Ican't work like that. All right,
then well we'll do it afterwards.It's it's just like this movie. It's
not it's not tense, but okay, yeah. Well here's the thing is,
I was I never do this whereI compare it to other movies and
try to figure out my score basedon that. But I was just looking
at last week and we did Vengeancea love story last weekend. I gave

(58:00):
it an eleven. I literally don'tremember a thing. I don't even know
what that movie was, right,yeah, and so I don't I guess
I didn't like it. I definitelydidn't like this one. It's just I
don't know this one. It justwasn't single digits for me. And I
think it's just because I got tosee Katie wheel and naked. Um.

(58:22):
So I'm gonna give it a ten. I give a ten cages um ten
cages uh aj. What are yourfinal thoughts and ratings on Inconceivable? Directed
by John Did you want to get? Did you want to tell me what
you guys thought? I was,so we do it now? I was,
we didn't. Actually, let's doit now, let's do it now.
You gave it a ten. Yeah, AJ, what did you think

(58:45):
James would would give it? Ithought James was going to give it it's
seven. And to be clear,for those of you who are still listening
and don't know what we did lastweek, we all guess before we saw
this movie last week what we thoughtwe'd rate this movie, but with no

(59:07):
knowledge of this film. Yep,so you said thirty seven for him,
I'm excited about this might be themost boring shit to listen to, but
I'm excited about this bit. It'simportant. It's important to think about how
sick it's going to be when weguess it's spot on right, And and
I love the fact that we're doingsomething interesting like this on on one of
the least interesting movies. Yes,we've ever watched on this show and our

(59:27):
seventy eight movie or James, Ithought you were going to give it a
seventeen. Okay, you were reallyclose? Yeah, yeah, And I
actually floated that idea in my head. But it ten ten felt like a
nice round number. Okay, Sookay, close? All right A j
your turn, pal, Well,um, And we've talked a lot about

(59:52):
this movie and it's pitfalls. Itfells short of glory the sorry box you
came. I've been wanted to ask, have you been inside of a boy?
This new? What is that?He? So? I was like,

(01:00:20):
wait, trying to being on thewhole movie or the whole review.
I just noticed it. I justnoticed it, and I hate it too.
If it literally looks like what isit? It's like a lens hood
but cardboard. I'm sitting in agiant box right now, and that's just
second. All right. Sorry,sorry to cut off her. Please,

(01:00:44):
I'm glad you carry on anywhere.Yeah, I mean like this, this
movie was unable to build tension,unable to build any care par characters here.
I had a very relaxing weekend thisweekend. It's a nice little uh
getaway to a pop farm, alot of infused treats um and that campaign

(01:01:07):
experience was more intense. Wow.Nice, that was good, buddy.
I was also going to give thismovie at ten, but I'm gonna give
it a plus one for Cage's littleuh sliding in of this little gym here.

(01:01:29):
That purple rain is a song aboutfather, and I know that was
not in the script. That's aCage thing. And He's like, God,
damn it, this is too importantnot to say, this is my
platform. I'm going to speak mytruth and uh, it's a purple rain
is. This is just like me. You gave this movie one point less

(01:01:52):
than you did last week. It'sa movie. Um, I thought you
were gonna give it an eedy two. So I was wow. I thought
I was gonna be way off becauseI said forty five. I thought for
sure you were going to give itan eighty two. And I thought I

(01:02:13):
thought I was going to give it, you know, in the sixties.
Seven. Dude, look at me. I'm becoming a better movie critic.
If this was our fifth episode,you would have been like I just thought
the scene where Cages tagging Angela wasso intense and engages acting was Chef's kiss,
and that's a It's at least aseventy seven. Now, I would

(01:02:37):
have given a fifty fifty points fortwo one one for small and one large
all sizes but both both so justlike my cock when I was watching it,
I guess we need to rate thisepisode as mature. Je us my

(01:03:00):
only fans account well, uh one, I would not recommend this movie to
anyone or children for that matter,which is crazy because in a lot of
ways. It's about children. Um, but I wouldn't recommend it to children.
Um. Yeah, yeah, I'llsay this. Over the weekend I

(01:03:20):
saw I saw two films in thetheater um. On Friday, I saw
Evil Dead Rise, and on Saturday, yesterday, I saw Dungeons and Dragons
Honor among Thieves. I didn't catchit yet. I almost went today,
but then we were recording this andI also watched this today. But I'll
catch it real soon, don't worry. Maybe maybe maybe I'll try to catch

(01:03:43):
it tomorrow night, but or sometimeI'll see it. But Evil Dead Rise
in Dungeons and Dragons Honor among Thieves, those are movies, and within those
films there was um things that Ienjoyed. I did not enjoy this movie.
And it was a movie, butit was a boring movie. In
a boring movie is not good.It's just not good. I have nothing

(01:04:09):
more important. I don't want togive any more words to this film,
not even good words. So itwas dumb, dumb poopoo. My rating
for this film of one hundred cages. Uh well, And I'm actually really
upset that that AJ gave this thatextra point because I said ten We could

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have had straight tense. That wouldhave been intense, you know, really
nice. But the nice thing issince we round, you know, we
round to the closest number, ourtotal score will be a ten, so
our composite score ten. Great.Yeah, had to fuck it up.

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But I thought you were gonna giveit a forty seven. I thought you
were going to be forty seven.I'd be around a sixty five and A
would be in the eighties. Okay, this was gonna be good. Yeah.
I thought Hank was going to giveit that whoa the closest rain and
in the movie disappointed us in theworst way. Um. Yeah, fuck
this movie. It's it's and thereason I like the last movie. I

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gave it two and I gave itthat low, just just to kind of
explain this a little bit, becausethat was like offensive to me and just
awful and cruel. There's nothing likeoutwardly just awful about this movie except for
the fact that's just boring as shit. But like I said, it's it's
well enough, made for like acable show or something, but it's it's
just so, you know, giveus some points there, but it's just

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like, fuck, it's awful incage. It's just he's nothing in this
He's just getting his paycheck and terribleand you know, and there's not even
anything for him to do anyways,even if he was trying, you know,
so we're all we're left with isthis purple rain remark that fucked up
our scores. So fuck this movie, and that's that's that's inconceivable. You

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know what, Hank, when yousaid that you would not recommend this to
kids, it made me think oflike these poor children that were cast in
this movie, Like they're gonna growup someday and be like, hey,
mom, can I can't watch themovie that I was in, And like
one day they're going to be oldenough and they're gonna see this movie and

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be like what the actual it wasn'teven fun to show my friends, Like
this is just a nightmare. Bythe way, this was. This was
the fifth worst ranked movie we've had, our seventy third ranked movie overall,
right ahead of Vengeance A Love Story, and right behind Bankok Dangerous an outcast,

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which I don't even know what outcastis. Oh you know outcast.
I know I know outcasts. Youlove it. You gave it like an
eighty seven I think I don't knowthe outcast and zeros that brought it down
to the sixth worse. But yougave it? Wait did I like it?
No? Definitely not. I don'tknow what it is. I think

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if anyone liked it is probably mea little bit more. But I don't.
I don't remember much of it all, right, hold on, let's
I don't remember liking it. Rememberhating Christiansen Outcast? That's the hating Christiansen
one. That one is so bad? Yeah, Outcast? I gave a
zero. You gave us seventeen,and Asia gave it nineteen. I gave

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two straight movies a zero, Outcastsand Left Behind, but they're both offensively
bad. I don't remember left Behind, left ye. All I remember from
Left Behind is like kid clothes justcollapsing in a pile to the floor and
balloons floating up to the ceiling.When the rapture happened? Right? Was
that the one with the Halloween fairand he loses the kid? No?

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No, no, left Behind wherethe rapture haft ship happens the Halloween our
one is um uh called the paythe ghost? Right? I knew it
had a dumb time, right,aj you're becoming a better film critic.
I'm remembering movies now, whoa incrediblewhoa. This is what we call growth

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ladies and a gentleman. I thinkI've just become worse. I just don't
care anymore. It just hurts.We got to get out of this.
We're almost there. Um, James, what the what the freaking heck are
we watching on the next episode?Well yeah, AJ actually already said it,
Um, but we are watching Momand Dad next week. It's got

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Nick Cage, Selma Blair. Theyplayed the titular Mom and Dad, and
then there's a bunch of people Idon't recognize in it. Um. This
is about a teenage girl and heryounger brother must survive a wild twenty four
hours during which a mass hysteria ofunknown origin causes parents to turn violently on
their own kids. It's less thanan hour and a half long. From

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what I remember, it's not great, but I really enjoyed it because it's
just got some batshit scenes. Soyeah, I am also, from what
I remember, a fan of thisfilm. And yeah, it was directed
by the guys that did Crank andCrank Too high voltage, So yes,
yeah, I think they're a littlemore toned down than Crank and Crank too
very much. Yeah, they're notkicking. Jayson saith them out of a

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helicopter and he gets on the groundand lives. But you know it's awesome.
Um yeah great. Well that's thankyou, dear listener once again for
sticking with us through the Wickerman pod. Um listen. If you love us

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at our National Treasure and Vampire's Kiss, but not at our but you can't
you can't calm us. You can'tlove us if you don't have us here.
I don't know whatever the saying is. If you don't love us,
that's all, you don't deserve uson the National Treasure. Thank you,

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Yeah, so thanks. Oh.One of my friends Carrie, shout out
Carrie. Last night I was havinga beer with him. Oh, I
was going to ask if she hadher period in front of her whole high
school class. No, no,no, no's my other friend Carry.
Um this Carry is a is ais a large Irish man. I say

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large because he's like a foot tallerthan me. But anyway he's Irish um
so of Iveragh descent. But Carrywas telling me last night he went on
recently went on I believe a hingedate or some sort, and he was
telling his date, who was ajournalist, about our show, um and

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and and she immediately questioned why anyonewould ever do that to themselves, and
then carry said, well, it'sit's kind of crazy. He's kind of
a crazy guy. But they've they'vebeen doing it for three years and it's
like they're like like seventy movies inor something. And then she was like,
that's actually really impressive, so,you know, shout out to us.
This guy sounds like a real catch. He's great talking about his friends

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podcast. He's the guy. Although, to be fair, I Steph,
I talked about AJ for the firstthirty minutes. Yeah there you go.
Yeah, yeah, that's that's good. Well that's how the journalist is saying,
that's impressive. Then I feel Ifeel good about this show. Yes
I do too, so at youknow, thank you, good nights.

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Take care of your children and makesure you're if you think they're biologically yours,
you might want to double check.Um oh and I want to.
I've been wanting to try out somethingnew. Everybody goes spay and new to
your pets. Good night, Thankyou, Okay, yeah yeah yeah all right bye