Ep. 80 - "Mandy" (2018)

Take some drugs and join a cult, it's Mandy, folks! Grab your battleaxe, your crossbow and your favorite tiger shirt for this one! Many manners are made in Mandy's manor! That was just fun to say! It's episode 80 and we're still doing thisss, BABY!

Episode Transcript

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Pet Yeah, what a. Myname's Hank Kin and I'm joined as
always by James Gram and A J. Panzica. Let's keep that batmid little
good. That's right to clarify something. If you're an avid listener of our

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show and you go episode to episode, which I know everyone that's listening is
an avid listener and goes episode byepisode. We said last week that this
week we would be watching a filmcalled Dark. That didn't happen because actually,
James, if you want to,if you want to explain the dark
situation, Yeah, so Dark wasa scam. It was. It was

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the movie Dying of the Light,which we covered, which we covered.
Wait what it was Dying of theLight? Right, Yeah, it was
Dying of the Light, which wecovered. I thought it was average.
AJ actually liked it, Hank thoughtit. It sucked, and the director,
I'm forgetting his name, but thedirector then got to do his own

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director's cut of the movie. ButI think he just like had the footage
and then released this because it's justlike on some website and the guy kind
of writes about it. Paul,Yeah, Paul Straighter, that's right,
but it's not from what I remember. It's really not different from Dying of
the Light, except it shorter.It's only seventy five minutes. I watched

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about half of it. The storyit tells is no different because he didn't.
I just don't think there were sceneslike cut out of Dying of the
Light that he was then able touse. It's not like Zack Snyder's Justice
League, where he was able togo reshoot things and actually put new footage
together. This it was the mostpointless thing I've watched. So I just

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turned it off, So don't bother. Yeah, that's thanks for taking the
bullet with us on that one.We thought about maybe doing it as a
bonus episode. It's not worth Yeah, it'll be the same discussion, just
shorter and worse, because I probablywould have rather watched that version than just
because it's shorter at the time.Exactly. Yeah, Honestly, if we
knew about it, we could havejust flipped and it would have been great.

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But yeah, they might not havedone that epic speech twice though,
And that's why speech It wasn't that'show the movie starts in, but it
was the three of the great speechthat one. Wow, we're gonna do
this all over again. Um,So instead we have gone to Mandy,

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which is a pretty big movie forCage. It's a big movie that represents
his comeback. I think in alot of ways. Um, people seem
to really love this movie. Um, and yeah, and you know it's
episode eighty, which I don't know. It just feels like a good number
for a movie. Like yes,I agree, totally agree, which is
pretty sweet. So just the quickfacts, Mandy was directed by Panos Cosmatos,

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Uh, which is awesome. Nailednailed it, thank you, and
uh it was Um what did itcome out? Let's see it came twenty
eighteen January nineteenth, premiered at SundayHey, that was its big Sunday's premiere,
and then it actually came out totheater September fourteenth, twenty eighteen,
so at the end of the year. Um. It stars, of course,

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Nicholas Cage as Red Red Miller.You got Andrea Riseborough as his wife
Mandy, the tit Mandy Bloom ReeseBurrow. You have Linus Roach as Jeremiah
sand uh, and no one elsereally matters. Oh except for Bill Duke.
Bill Duke. Yeah, I don'tknow, but yeah, he's got
a little You've got a quick,little little line in there. Um,

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but this is Mandy. This isuh a quick history of this. James
and I we watched this together forthe first time years ago. Um,
and we didn't like it when wefirst saw it. I think we were
expecting more of a silly, crazykids movie like him just going nuts.
And we were younger back then.Yeah, we dumb, dumber. Yeah,

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we just didn't know. We didn'tknow. Um. And since then,
I've seen this movie a second timeactually feel like like maybe two years
ago, and I end up reallyliking it. And then this time I
fucking loved it. Um. So, James, how do you feel now
after after our initial viewing, becauseI believe this is your second time.
Yeah, this this was my secondtime seeing it. Um, I liked

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it. I didn't love it.I thought it was good, not great.
There's points of this movie to methat are are boring. Um,
not not boring. I shouldn't sayboring. There's there's parts of me,
parts of this movie to me thatdon't work, but the parts that do
work. I was actually handing outwere texting about this last night, where
I said, like, I likeit, I don't love it, but

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I'm not going to fight you onit because I understand why you love it.
And I'm actually really curious to hearAJ's take on it, because I
think it could go either way wherehe loves it or it just didn't work
for him. But there's parts ofthis movie that when they work, it's
like Chef's Kiss for me, Iabsolutely love it, and then there's parts

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of it where it just it justwasn't hitting for me. So yeah,
but Aj, I'm honestly been dyingall day to hear your take on this.
Uh. Yeah, it was kindof a mixed bag for me.
I guess I had high hopes becausethis came out. When did this come

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out? Well, we should weshould give the context to AJ just real
quick, is that this is thestart of kind of the renaissance that we're
seeing um forge. But this wasthe role that ended up getting him back
into more of these roles, andso at the time, I think it

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was really hyped up because it wassomething that we hadn't seen from Cage again
a really long time. But sorry, I don't I don't want to cut
off here, but just the contextof when it came out that well,
that was my question. What didit come out? What year? I
feel like we had twenty eighteen,okay, so we started the pod in
twenty twenty mm nineteen actually technically,yeah, twenty nineteen. So I guess

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when we started this podcast, Iwas seeing hype because this movie didn't do
well at the box office. Butthen it like came back as this this
cult phenom and all of a sudden, you know, you see Cage's bloody
face everywhere and in the memes,and you're right, it was like the

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kind of beginning of this Cage renaissancein the modern era. So, um,
I was like primed to watch it, but then we started this podcast
and I'm like, all right,I'm I'm essentially the resident guest on the
show because most most of these moviesare brand new to me, and so

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I have abstained from watching it.It's actually an amazing way to put it.
I've never thought about something. Right. We can't do the show without
you, but I want to.I want to give you credit for waiting
three years to watch this movie.That is wild. Yeah, I shouldn't
have it wasn't it wasn't all Ihad it cracked it up to me.

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Um, you know, you definitelyget some crazy Cage, which we love.
Um. Stylistically, the movie isbeautiful, um, and the lighting
and the fog and um, youknow it was it was a really well
crafted, artistic movie. Um,but I kind of felt like it was

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a snooze fest. It could notkeep me going. Um, and I
was watched it before we started,right Yeah, and I didn't get much
sleep last night. The morning isa is a weird Not that's your fault,
but it's a weird time to watchit, like the middle of the
day. Yeah. Well, Ialso think it's interesting because on this podcast,

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so AJ's watched it once. I'vewatched it twice, Hanks watched it
three times. Yeah. The firsttime that all three of us was a
little baseball joke. Yeah, itwas good. I actually didn't get that.
So yeah, I know, comedyfor the baseball listeners if anyone knows
who that is. But yeah,I mean the first time we watched it,
I think we all kind of hadhave had the same take. So

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it's interesting to hear you say prettymuch the same way that Hank and I
felt. And but all three ofus were really had gotten a lot of
hype for this movie, and Iwonder if that kind of took it away
because this time I went into itnot really expecting to like it, and
there was parts of it that Idefinitely liked weigh More And I think probably

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my favorite part of the whole movieis just the way Andrea Riesevera looks and
I think, like what they didwith makeup wise, and she was like
really gaunt at the time. Shejust she was was she just nominated this
past year for Best Actress for toLeslie or was that was that last year?
But she looks a lot different nowand for this this episode comes out,

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it would be like three years ago. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
no, I mean this this Uh, I just thought that to me
worked so well. I just therewas something about the Colt, the Colt
that just it just didn't I don'tknow, it just didn't work for me.
Yeah. I think what's interesting withthis movie one about not like maybe

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not being into it at first.It totally grows on you the more you
watch it because it's such a it'ssuch an unconventional film, you know,
and it's it's very much an arthouse film. It's very much an indie
film, and a lot of youknow, I mean it is an indie
film. Elijah Wood was a produceron it, which is interesting. Um
so this is part of Elijah Woodsproduction company that helped make this which I

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also just love that is a littlebit with him. But again, it's
very unconventional film. So I thinkwhen you first watch it and you're you're
maybe more prepared for just like aregular movie, the way it plays out
will throw you off. And thenwhen you know what more to expect on
that second time, I think ithelps a lot just knowing that this is
not going to be just like atraditional film in a lot of ways.

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But what one of one of myfavorite things about it, especially noticing it
last night when I watched it outof our whole show, and I think,
out of his whole career, Cage'scareer, it is by far the
most atmospheric film that Cage has everbeen a part of, like every the
whole world that they build, andit is just beautiful and visually it's just
one of the most great, youknow, just coolest looking movie I've seen.

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Um, which aj, I knowyou're a fan of Enter the Void
and like it gives me, like, you know, it's kind of like
that style of just like wonky madness. Um in the dark. Yeah,
it's like a fever dream, Yeah, the whole thing, And like it's
technically set in America, but inthis version of America, the movie takes
place on the eighties. It's likenineteen eighty three or something, and like

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Reagan is president and they established someof that. But ever you look,
it looks like an alien planet orsome high fantasy sort of realm with multiple
planets that you see in the skyand moons and there's two suns and all
kinds of shit. But I'm sorry, are you talking about enter the void
or are you talking about me?Mandy? Mandy? There was two sons
and Mandy at one point? Yeah, I um, but it's it's it's

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or like it's like a sun andthere's like two moons next to I don't
know whatever, you know, allaround. That's the final shot, that
ending shot when it pans up andyou see everything whole moons around. Yea.
But yeah, it's like a highfantasy land version of America, which
is interesting, um, and hasnothing to do really, I don't think
with most of the film. Well, I take it back, it does

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because it's about you know, it'sthe eighties and Reagan's the present, and
the whole thing is about LSD andit's about drugs, and it's about the
drug scare. Um and and youknow, the whole movie is that Mandy
gets kidnapped by this cult and Mandyand Cage or like you know, their
husband wife, and they just havea happy He's a he's a logger,
he's a he's a joe, youknow. Uh. And then she's just

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a she's like a like a likean artist and an illustrator, and this
crazy cult sees her one day,tracks her down, kidnaps her. Um
and so it's really about Cage tryingto get her back. Well, they
kill her in front of Cage,and then it's about him getting his revenge
on the colt. Why didn't theykill him? I mean, obviously there's
not a movie if they don't.But what right, what was the purpose
to that? I think just tolet him suffer. I don't know.

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I think they just liked him sufferingcould be and I mean he could have
bled out, you know, theydidn't. They didn't know, But I
don't know that that scene was intense. It's when she's burning but she's still
alive, like she's kicking. Ifyou've seen the two thousand and nine Friday
the Thirteenth reboot, there's a verysimilar thing in the very beginning and it's
way more violent, but I haven'tseen it. It's awesome. The guy

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from Superstore is in it, butAmerica, Yeah, and what's his name
in Silicon Valley, Ron laflanm no. I was just saying the actress America
Ferrera, I was making a job. I don't know who the guy from
Superstore is. Actually, I've actuallynever seen Superstore. I just know he's
in it. But anyways, Ilove this movie. It's it's a movie

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that inspires the shit out of meas a filmmaker, and I you know,
it's it's something that I see andI wish I could make a movie
that makes me feel the way thismovie makes me feel, because yeah,
it isn't a very um story wiseon the surface, it's not. It's
it's very simple um. It's it'sjust the look of it, and it's
the feel of it. The wholemovie is just it's about how it makes

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you feel. To me, andthe few only got in Involkes, it's
just like tragedy and beauty mixed together. And I thought they did a really
good job. Some of it looksa little a little cheap here and there
at times some of the lighting too. But also it was a six million
dollar movie, which is very veryvery very very low for something like this.
How much should it make? Didyou say this already? And the

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box office it was somewhere around likeone point five to two millions something like
that. So not good in thebox office. But again, it did
have a huge comeback in the homemarket, which is great, and it's
a total I know a lot ofpeople, a lot of my friends that
love this movie, and I've beenkind of waiting for us to get to
this movie. But yeah, Idon't know. I want to feel that

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connection with it because I love listeningto you talk about it and I love
listening to them talk about it.And it's not one of those movies that
I'm like want to argue with thatit's like worse than you're saying it is.
I just I just missed all thatconnection. Yeah, you know,
it's I don't know it's And Itry to watch without taking notes too.
I just tried to I didn't.Yeah, and watched, and it's less.

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It's just a movie. I justlike, I feel like I remember
pretty well. I just thought itreally sticks to me. Again, A
lot of it is just the visuals. The cinematographer nailed it, the lighting
team nailed it. Um. Andwhat's important about this movie is it's basically
split in two halves. There's twomovies going on. The first half is
just establishing Mandy and Cage's love foreach other in their relationship. The middle

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of that is when she gets kidnappedand killed, um, and then so.
And it's not even until like halfwaythrough the film that it even says,
like the title, Mandy shows upyes, which is interesting. Um.
It's kind of split the check likethat first half was an hour and
I think that's what That's where itkind of lost me. Um. And
is it? Because is it?I wonder if people are more interesting.

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I think some people see this fromthe outside and think it's an action movie,
which it is in the end,um, but the first half is
not. The first half is ais A is a romance film in this
gothic sort of environment. And thistime watching it because I was like,
like, the second time I sawit, I love the second half way
more and I thought the first halfwas a little more boring. Last night

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when I watched it, I fuckinglove the beginning because they do these long
long takes of just it'll just beCage and Mandy. They're sitting on the
couch watching TV or sitting in theirbed, and they're just having these conversations,
and a lot of it's just Cagesitting there, laying down and Mandy's
laying on top of him, andshe's just kind of talking about her dreams
or this or that and whispering andit's very quiet, and he's just sort

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of like either nodding off and wakingback up and listening and going mmmmmm.
But you can it's such a realisticconversation. Every every conversation between him and
Mandy is like every relationship I've everbeen in. If you know anyone,
if you've dated you, you know, like it pet, what's your favorite
planet? Genus? Genus? Yeah, I was listening on these people's lives,

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is what it is. It's justI actually think I would have So
this movie is two hours. Ifit was an hour and a half love
story, or if it was anhour and a half where there's ten minutes
of love story and then an hourand twenty minutes of actually I actually think
I would have liked it more.I just the two feels like two separate

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movies, and yeah, I thinkmaybe that's where maybe that's where the connection's
lost. I don't know. Ithink him going so hard in the second
I mean he forges his own battleacts. Yeah, he's downing bottles of
vodka his rip shirt like that.Shit's so sick, but it comes out
it doesn't make sense. Well,so he's like a recovering alcoholic, and
so it's sort of this, You'vetaken everything from me, and now I

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have nothing lesse to live. Ican die at any point, I don't
care. I'll do anything. AndI think what they were going for with
this that first half, because we'veseen so how many movies have we seen
on the show where Cage meets girl, Cage loves girl in ten minutes and
then the rest of the movie isfighting for girl. Right, this is
like really taking time to establish likewhy he would go this far for this

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person as opposed just to quick typicalaction. I think I weirdly like didn't
get why that. I didn't feelthat I felt the love there. I
just he doesn't even put up afight when they're breaking into the house,
So I don't know, he doesn'teven show almost any emotion until they've killed

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her in front of him or youknow whatever, they do it in front
of him. Yeah, yeah,they kill her right, and they light
her on fire in front of him, And so I think that's where I
was like, wait, what whyis he? How does he have this
in his arsenal to build a battleaxe and to kill all these people in
these crazy ways? So weird.I mean, he's a logger and he

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doesn't even have his own equipment.He doesn't even have his own chainsaw,
but all of a sudden he hasthis like smith forge with the battle axe
mold already conveniently prepared. Yeah,because it's fun, awesome, because that's
the same time John Wick they killedthe dog and now he's smashing open his
basement. You know, it's awesome, but it's so out of place.

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It's it's doesn't make sense. Andin this, you know, this world
that they feel, I feel itdoes though. You know this it's a
gothic fantasy land that they have,you know that they that they've built their
whole thing on. And I thinkit fits that theme really well, um
that he has it, And Ithink too it goes to this again,
he's he's a recovering alcoholic, andI think it's sort of this. Um,

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it's not that he loses his emotions, but he's trying to keep everything
in and keep it together and dayby day and get through. And he
has his wife that he loves,you know, and that's what's been getting
through this whole thing. And soonce you take that away, he's unhinged.
It's gone. And it could bean allusion to maybe who he was
in the past, who he waspreviously, which we don't see and I
don't think we need to either inthis case. Um. I think it's

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just it's inference and it's it's yeah, no, I mean I get that.
I just think if if you've gotthat in your bag, then you're
you're easing at least a little bitof that when you're your house is broken
into and these people they do gethim pretty quick though, I mean they
knock him out pretty quick. Yeah, it's that sort of I mean think
again, John Wick in some waysis similar because like he's the greatest assassin

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on the planet in those movies,and they break in his house and kick
his fucking ass. You don't havehim. They're dying, almost dying,
and then he comes back and Unlesha'sHell yeah, I mean that's fair.
And don't get me wrong, Ibasically this film is John Wick. I
like, yeah, I like watchingCage go john Wick. I that's fun.
I enjoyed the scene where he's killingthose those ghouls um there and that's

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the best part. That's the bestpart. Yeah, I loved that and
that was fun. It just didn'tmake any sense. Well, nothing in
this film makes sense as far asthat world goes well, and in comparing
it to john Wick, Like johnWick, you have this um, this
like building crescendo of action, wherehere like you have the tension and you

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have the feeling, like the emotionthat Cage has. But even in the
second half it was very quiet.Everything was very quiet. And like at
one point he like cuts off thealiens dick and gets sprayed with blood and
is like in this rah kind oflike moment, and there's no rah.

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He just like takes a play ofcocaine smashes it in his face like Ozzy
Osbourne would and then you're like,all right, now he's gonna nope,
Nope, he just snorted a mountof cocaine. And I guess that helped
with the pain from you know,being all fucked up, but he like

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became even more kind of cool,calm and collected as he went about methodically
finding the next person, which focused. Yeah, it didn't didn't quite make
sense to me. Yeah, it'sa subtle film and and well and what
it's as far as an action filmgoes, it's very subtle. And that's
also what I appreciate about it,because I don't know if I've ever seen

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an action movie that's this quiet andit is methodical. But I think I
think to AJ's point though, islike, then don't do the snorting the
coke, right. It's like,if you're gonna have be subtle and you're
going to have him be methodical,but you also want to have him be
crazy. But he snorts the cokeand nothing happens, It's like it doesn't

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I think as a viewer, itdoesn't make sense. Hmm. Yeah,
I think I would disagree and gothe other way because when I like,
when I see that, it's likenow he's smashing aside with the cocaine,
and now the way I saw it, I'm just like, oh, yeah,
he's fucking pissed. Like it's gametime and he turns around and he
like continues his rampage on all ofthem. But again, I think it
just fits within the mold of thethe atmosphere that they've built. It's it's

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just a it's just a quiet it'slike a quiet tidal wave that's coming in.
You know. The whole movie kindof feels like the calm before the
storm. And I think the alsothe reason it works is because the cult
is so not threatening, you know, I mean they because the whole reason
they're able to even kidnap Manny anddo all that stuff because they hired it
was an aliens is a biker gang. But the biker gang took like bad

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lsd basically and it just like fuckedthem forever and there. That's why they
built all their armor that they wear. And they're just basically crazy people.
Um, but they hire those thosewere humans. Yeah, they're can't full
full blooded human beings. Well that'swhy I had no idea what they're supposed
But it's a fantasy film, youknow, it's a Gothic fantasy. And

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I think that's that's the key tothis movie, is it is supposed to
be um. You know, thinkthink not Lord of the Rings, but
think more on those terms rather thanlike a John Wig, which is grounded
in somewhat of a you know,slick reality. But um, but yeah,
the biker gang, you know,they can' nobles, and so the
only way that the cult has anysort of power is by basically, like

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they give them one of their peoplethat's a sacrifice to eat, and then
that's how they hire them to captureMandy and do all their stuff. So
all the violence comes from this gang, whereas the cult, it's just a
bunch of babies. Like the guy, and I kind of love like the
guy is like the leader, Jeremiahsand He's like a failed psychedelic rock musician
and his music just kind of sucks. Use everyone LSD and they think that

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they like it, you know,and Mandy's the only person ever call him
out on it, and she's youknow, he shows her, He shows
her like his dick and he's tryingto say that he's God, and she
just starts laughing at him, whichis like all time scene. I love
it, and it like right offthe bat, it's like just showing how
weak this cult is. And soby the time Cage is getting to them.
It's just like, oh yeah,I mean he just destroyed the Spiker

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Gang. Like these guys they're done, you know, it's it's it's fucked
in their babies. And and theneven Jeremiah says like he's about to kill
He's like, also, Dick,bro, I'll do anything, man.
You know, he just completely breaksand and you know, I love it.
I don't know, it's just soit's so it's it's refreshing to me
to not see something that is amassive battle at the end, that that
has to be the bigger, biggerthan anything else, because that's not what

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this movie is, you know.When we got plenty, Yeah, I
agree with that. I mean it'sI like the smaller scale of it,
and I guess the ease at whichhe he goes through with it. Um
yeah, I just I think,you know, I don't know, we're
just kind of going to circles.But I think, yeah, our point
remains is like just doesn't seem tofit, Like the whole movie just doesn't

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seem to gel together for me.Yeah, I think this movie is definitely
a matter of opinion for a lotof Yeah, it's very very very subjective.
Um, but a j I textedhank this, my there's a part
in the movie that that made melaugh very hard. Can you guess what?
It is? Probably the only reallyfunny part in the movie, but

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I was. I was laughing tothe cheddar goblin word. Good guess.
Um. No, it was whenwhen they blow that horn to uh to
get the um ghoules to to comeout of hiding, them to come out

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of hiding and um and then theygo sit in the sit in the car.
So I'm trying to find the charactername, so it was ned.
It was brother Swan m blows thehorn, goes and sits down. And
then brother Hanker, which is agreat name, UH is sitting in the
passenger seat and he's just slowly um, pushing the window down, pushing the

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window back up and then down andthen back up. And you can just
see what did I say his namewas, Brother Swan getting more and more
angry. But it's like he's henever addresses it, like he doesn't yell
at him or anything. It's justit was like it was I don't know,
I thought it was hilarious. Iwas just cracking up watching him slowly
put the window up and down.I like, I like, whenever he's

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do they do the one shot ofhim just drinking all the bottle of vodka
whenever he gets back home and he'sjust like breaking shit in his h in
his bathroom and going between crying andscreaming and drinking and crying and screaming and
drinking. A lot of one shotsin this movie. Yeah, there were.
I mean, the cinematography was wasexcellent. Yeah. The weird thing

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is is that bathroom. The wallpaperwas so it was so weird. It
always gets to me. It's sodifferent. It looks like from the shining
or something. I can't even pictureit. Describe it to me, Hank,
it's a diamonds but floral, buteighties but seventies. But it's in
the eighties, so it makes sense. Wallpaper, James, it's wallpaper orange,

(28:52):
it's red, it's black, seeit, I can see it.
Yeah, he's a tiger shirt.I won this fucking tiger shirt. The
shirt's awesome, awesome, the tiger. What about the real tiger. Tiger's
great too. That just kind ofwalks around. That was another thing where
like the tension is built but thennothing happens. Yeah, the tiger just

(29:14):
walks out of the room and it'slike, oh, he's he's sick the
tiger on him, Like, what'sgonna happen? Nothing? Nothing, Yeah,
you were into a chemist. Who'sthis guy that just makes a LSD
for everyone? Um? And it'salso just like drinking it off of his
own fingers, you know, likedid this guy's also just fried? So

(29:36):
there's um there's IMDb trivia about thattiger, which I think kind of makes
the scene dumber because like to thepoint, nothing happens. But actor actor
Richard Brake, who plays the chemist, revealed on Twitter um that in an
early draft of the script, theCage Bengal tiger Lizzy was a lizard.
U. Then Brake said, whenhe arrived on set, director cosmatos Um

(30:00):
said, oh, by the way, Lizzie's a tiger now. But it
didn't like, it doesn't change thescene at all because it's it's all of
a sudden, it's kind of liked, I don't know, it's just find
a lizard, so we got adagger exactly. Well, the chemist is

(30:21):
on his side. He's not tryingto fight him, he's he feels for
him because he knows what happened.With Mandy, and so he's he's not
a he's not an antagonist towards Cage, he's the one. Does he kills
the camist though, doesn't he?No? No, the chemist tells him
where the cultists are, and that'sright. Yeah, he doesn't kill the
chemist, and he doesn't kill thewoman. Yeah, he does kill the
older woman mother who gives the besthead or whatever she said she does,

(30:45):
sure does everyone. Everyone in hiscult just gives each other blow jobs.
That's yeah, Yeah, that's thewhole cult. Yeah, that's all good.
Colt should be I guess yea,and brother Swan wants to give a
blow job desperately. Jeremiah sand won'tlet it happen. Yeah, I mean
desperately that's all he wants to do. Yeah yeah, um. Apparently Cage

(31:06):
was first approached to play Jeremiah.The role of Jeremiah that was different movie,
totally right, it would have beenbetter. I thought the Jeremiah role
was terrible. I thought that thatguy was awful in that role. M
Yeah, I didn't like his acting, and I didn't like Mandy like she

(31:26):
looked the park, but I couldnot get like their dialogue just didn't didn't
hit for me. I completely agree. I thought the way she looked was
probably my favorite part of the movie. But yeah, every time she spoke
it it like took me out ofthe character. Basically sad sad. I

(31:47):
agree with you, Agia, Ididn't like Did you like Jeremiah sand Heck,
yeah I did. Yeah. Ithought he was perfect for it.
Um in a lot of way.I don't know, because again, he's
not like he thinks he's threatening,but he's you know, at all.
And I think that actor was likea really good thing because Cage would be
threatening. Um, but that's notthe true point of these people. You

(32:09):
know. This guy again, he'sjust like a strung out I want to
be has been rock star, youknow, and he's not. So Yeah,
I mean he looks like me,you know, if I was,
you know a little bit more ontons of n I was thinking that too.
You could have totally played that.I don't know. I would have
liked to see him Sam Rockwell,he's supposed to be I have a bitch

(32:31):
looking guy. I think I thinkI love Sam Rockwell. Yeah. What
about Bill Duke? Bid? Yeah, Bill Duke? He shows up from
from from a fan. Yeah,he's the isn't he the he's the detect

(32:52):
like the head detective or whatever inaction Jackson, Right, Yeah, it's
always getting on action Jackson's case,which is what most people will know him
from, and nothing else. It'spurely z. Yeah, he's he lives
in in this film. He livesin a trailer, and I guess,
I guess he has a even eventhough Cage well, I was gonna say,

(33:14):
even though k has the capacity tomake his own um massive two handed
sword of death, Um, heneeds some range. He needs some range.
And thankfully his all his old veteranPowell, Bill Duke characters whatever his
name was, Bro Brothers, CathersGo character Carters Um has holding onto this

(33:39):
crossbow for him for seemingly years andyears and years. And so he gets
over there and he knocks on histrailer. I like. I like that.
The trailer says fuck you on itand he knocks on it and you
just hear it. Can't you rain? Yeah? He keeps I actually I
did like that scene. And Ijust watched, just rewatched for the first
time in a long time, Predator. So it was nice, great movie.

(34:00):
Nice to see Bill for another filmthat subverts the expectations of action movies.
True true, Maestro, thank you, excellent movie. Thank you,
that's excellent movie. Um yeah,he's in it for like a little two
minutes where they're just kind of talkingum um and and and Bill Duke basically

(34:21):
is the one that tells him youprobably shouldn't go fight that biker gang because
they're gonna kill you. And thenCage just like, yeah, but I'm
gonna He's like, all right,here's a crossbow. Oh. He's like,
and I made you some arrows too. Um and so then then Cage
begins though could you have picked aworse weapon than a crossbow? You know,
he's got a crossbow and a giantagain two handed. Yeah, he's

(34:44):
not very um, you're not veryswift with what you have going on?
Are there guns? They don't havea gun in this movie. Don't remember.
I want to say there was,like, oh man, I don't
that's a good question. I thinkthere was, yeah, yeah, because
I got a shotgun of Yeah,and they do the Russian roulette scene.

(35:05):
That's right, girl as well.That was good. Actually I really liked
that moment. Yeah, show mehow much you love me? Yeah,
Um, it's weird that you likedthat that much? Ran, Oh makes
me uncomfortable? How much you are? Show me how much you did that
to me one time in college,if I'm not mistaken. Yeah yeah,
and you did it. I didit to this day. Yeah yeah.

(35:30):
We could have been a totally differentco host. I know. We would
do it every few weekends. Yeahyeah, yeah, or better yeah,
show me you love me, Showme how you welcome thought we were retired
that last week. Show me howmuch you love me? Nice good to
Thomas shirt James, Yeah, thanks. Do you know what it means?

(35:53):
Isn't just like egg means lazy egg? This one he's cuddling up with this
egg. Why I saw a targetsI've ever seen, so I bought it
back to back episodes with Yeah,yeah yeah. The last one was rough.
I like in our screenshot of it, the screenshot took like mirrored,

(36:14):
so you couldn't even read it becausethen your shirt was Oh yeah, no
I know, No I didn't.I didn't know how to change the mirrored
screen shot. And but yeah,my girlfriend just posted a uh like a
bunch of pictures from the last fewmonths, and I'm in it three times
and twice I'm wearing the shirt Iwore last episode, the worst shirt ever.

(36:38):
Great. Was like, man,I gotta maybe wear this. I
emailed the guy and we're waiting forYeah. Good, emailed Dave. Oh
I was wearing last night. Actually, he's doing the soundtrack for this far
new Yeah, yeah, perfect,perfect, Oh that too. I want
to mention the soundtrack of Mandy JohanJohnson. This was the last film that
this guy did. He's a veryvery big composer and beautiful, beautiful score.

(37:02):
And that's the thing. I think. The thing with this movie is
again, it's just it's more aboutthe just the the look of it,
the feel of it, and thesound of it more than anything else.
That gets me. Um that Ijust I really like m beautiful, beautiful
score. The movie was dedicated inhis memory. He passed recently after I
know this was released. I thinkposthumously, um posthumously postume post humor.

(37:25):
So I thought. I thought soundtrackwas good. I thought the Jeremiah sand
song was great though, oh yeahyeah, yeah, better better than the
Beatles, you know, better thanthe Who, I would say, But
you know what I was thinking watchingthis last night is a really really good
double feature for this movie and theseare two movies that just I would love

(37:49):
to make something similar to this movie. And the one I'm gonna say um
is The Green Knight. If y'llhave seen The Green Knight from a twenty
four death Batel, very very goodmovie. I think you know you would
enjoy more than you do Mandy's Iturned it off. I would like to
give it another shot, but Iwas so turn Oh my goodness. Yeah,
well yeah, very long, takesvery long dialogue stuff, but there

(38:12):
even is some otherwise you're just lookingat Debtel's face half the time. I'm
sure it's good. It felt similarto The Lighthouse to me, where I
know, like people that love movieslove it, and I just couldn't get
into. Oh, I just likethe Lighthouse because willing to focus and Robert
Pattinson's great, but it is sowashingtons get hammered in my head like constantly

(38:35):
is just running. Why did youfeel your beans? I just feel your
beans? That's listen awesome. Butyeah, I don't like The Green Knight,
but I do well, I'll giveit another shot. But yeah,
but but it's very also just veryespecially I don't know how far you made
it, but the deeper he goesinto the forest and on his journey.
Yeah, the lighting in it isjust it is beautiful. And again,

(38:59):
the atmosphere of that film is juststunning to me, and it was it
was I believe, a much largerbudget than this movie had, and so
like some of the lesser qualities andMandy is not a problem. And Green
Knight it looks stunning all the waythrough. But as far as just like
films that puts you in a reallyweird, interesting world through practical lighting.

(39:22):
Um, it's it's I think itwould make a very good double feature.
The Green Knight, by the way, is just on YouTube for free,
So all right there you go.Yep, thanks um, thanks alphabet.
That's wild creating. Though, wouldrecommend to those who are into this kind
of thing. I don't have toomuch else to say. Yeah, I

(39:45):
don't either. It's a hard oneto talk about. It's it's a movie
that I think you just need towatch for yourself, and you may not
like it the first time. Inall of our cases, it may come
around, it made not. Itis just a very subjective. I think.
I think part of the hype problemis do not go into it thinking
it's going to be some crazy actionfilm, um and where you get nuts

(40:08):
ocage, and you do get somenuts o caage, but it's just different
the movie. It feels like itwas made like buy Aliens on a different
planet, you know, which alsoshows how it looks to It just feels
like an alternate dimension film in alot of ways. And so just don't
think you're going to see you know, Crank or ghost Writer or just some

(40:31):
wild shit, you know. Idon't know. It's not that. It's
much more quiet than that. Butwhat you do get is really good,
and like a lot of the battlesare really good, like the it's always
like one on one fights that hehas with the biker gang. That's really
great. I like the one watherin the fiery cars, you know,
and that's where he's going out.I'm with the giant clever thing. But

(40:52):
yeah, decide for yourself. Yeah, I love this film. This film's
influenced me greatly, and so Iwill, I will, I will stand
strong from Mandy, Thank you.Panos Cosmatos Loca. I think he's Greece.
I think he's a Greek man.It has to be. He's got

(41:13):
to be with a name like that. He's from Milwaukee. Yeah, no,
it has to be where is hefrom? Let's see and again?
Produced by Elijah Wood, which isyeah, that was That always gets me.
I love that he's Italian Canadian.Interesting. He was born in Rome,
Italy, so Cosmatos is his actualfamily name, and his father is

(41:36):
George P. Cosmatos. Stage theydidn't list the mother, I believe,
so yeah, that's not a stagename. Oh George George Cosmotos worked on
Rambo First Blood Part two in Cobraand then moved to Canada. So hey,
we've we've established that there are ghoulsin this movie. Yes, but

(42:00):
would you like to ask if there'sanything else? Well, let me put
this tab down real quick. Iwas wondering, James, are there any

(42:22):
are this is? This is makingme overwhelmingly uncomfortable. I'm glad it's a
podcast for most of people. Makeit sweet sweet love to his microphone.
There there are goofs and gaps.Thanks for asking, Hank, Yes there

(42:43):
are. There are a few goofs. Again, there's actually a million.
There's so many more than we usuallyhave. They're all terrible, so I'm
just gonna read a couple. Um, there's two two, that I just
are overwhelming that someone would even writethis. There's one that goes with something
we've talked about, and there's oneother one that's just moronic. Which one

(43:05):
would you like to hear first?I want to hear the overwhelming one,
and then I want the moronic oneto calm us down after the overwhelming one.
Okay, here's the two overwhelming ones. Mandy is reading her book on
the bed with her legs crossed,with her right foot slightly under her left
thigh. Then, at seventeen fortysix, her left foot is seen flat
on the blanket in the background,God forbid you adjust your Who who wrote

(43:31):
that? Does it? Say?No? It doesn't. Unfortunately, whoever
wrote that? I hate you?Yeah. And if you remember from last
week, they have a new systemnow it's helpful and thumbs down, Right,
the majority of these have zero.So wait, since since they change
their ratings, this one is zerohelpful thumbs down scores or criteria like um,

(43:57):
did the old helpful or not helpfulget translated into thumbs downs? I
feel like if you change the unitsof measurement, you got to restart the
whole grading system. That's yeah,that's interesting. Yeah, I don't know.
Huh yeah, yeah, well becauseit used to be interested or not

(44:19):
interesting or not interesting, and soI would assume that those alders got wiped
because it would be like if wechanged our podcast from Cages to Nick's,
Like if we were you know,we had to watch every whole differences.
Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna finallycatch up, hit the end, and
then we're gonna go backwards, backback to the Valley Girls, but it'll
only be out of ten. We'rejust gonna restart. Yeah yeah, oh

(44:45):
man, back to that sweet sweetbeach. How did that young man get
all the way up to this bloodiedand driving in that? You know?
Yeah, well yeah, that's I'mgonna say, not helpful. What's um?
Yeah? So next one very similarat one forty seven h seven stopped

(45:07):
us. You are wasting our lifeforce right now? It's slightly open.
What oh that is? That is? As I told you, somebody just
chop her head off. That wouldhappen. Can you believe that they would

(45:28):
let that let the letter? Imean, it's not even like but wait,
isn't she the blow job queen?Like remains so but it's like I
understand if you're going to say,well, and this shot her hair was
up and then a second later herhair was down. It's like, okay,
that's a bigger content. She switchedfrom nose breathing to mouth breathing.

(45:51):
What the hell are you even talkingabout? So frustrating actually real quick.
That reminds me, Um, itwas sick. Can never reminds me of.
I don't know if they'll I've watchedWerewolf by Night, Yes I have.
It's excellent, Thank you, thankyou. Yes. I was a
VFX coordinator on Marvel's were Wolf byNights, which I still think is their

(46:12):
most unique thing that ever made overthere. It is. I've never heard
someone say a negative word about it. Go watch it. That makes you
very happy, thank you. Um. And there's that part towards the end
where I remember ulysses the guy andthe dead guy who puts it on places
in the coffin and man thing cutsoff his head and throws it across spoilers
across the room. Um. Wewe did have a we had a practical

(46:32):
head on that, UM. Butthen a lot of our workers making a
VFX once that whenever it flew acrossUM. But speaking, just just speaking,
on the on the mouth open ornot open of mother Margaret. It's
not that easy sometimes, and andthere's a lot of work that went into
us making sure that Ulysses head was, you know, as as proper to

(46:53):
the real prosthetics as we could makeit happen. I honestly think that what
they wanted it was for them toactually cut the actress's head off so that
way, when you tossed it,it just looked exactly. She wasn't true
method actress, and she should haveconsented to that, but she didn't.
Yeah, so what do you doit? Um? Not living for your

(47:14):
art? Yeah? No, Imean if she was true method, she
would have just probably beat her herspouse, like Jonathan Major's well, let's
let's let's take it easy there,we don't know, Yeah, sorry,
gets it gets squashed Cage's massive grip. Do you think that looked good?

(47:45):
Oh? Yeah, here skull.No, I think it was fun,
But it was like it was likealmost like like I loved that his eyeball

(48:07):
popped out and it scorted all kindsof yeah body fluid. So you know,
for that to be you know,the big boss kill, I don't
know, Yeah, it breaks myhearty scare, let me give you,

(48:36):
let me give you two more goofsand gaffs that, well, we'll get
you back on track. Um.When Nick Cage's character, which I mean,
just just right, Red, youwatch the movie, when Nick Cage's
character turns to forge, It turnsto his forge to constructs his revenge weapon.
The metal he pours in is aluminum. Yet when he pulls that puts

(48:57):
it on the anvil, it's miracles. I think that's a true goofau.
I kind of I noticed that too. I can't that that's one. I
have no answer. Flats you got, Yeah, I think that's helpful.
Yeah, that's yeah, that wasthe true goof Um, this is a
This one actually might be more infuriatingthan the first two that I read.

(49:21):
Um, Jesus Man, Mandy tellsthe shopper it's five bucks without verifying the
items and their prices. It isquite surprising that the sum totals exactly five
dollars. I actually thought the samething, so I was watching it last

(49:44):
night. She mother Margaret, goesto the gas station where Mandy works,
and yeah, she just puts aclump of items down. And Mandy's reading
a book you know, and she'slike, oh, what are you're eating?
She's like whatever, whatever, um, and she just takes one glance
because that'll be five bucks. AndI did think, really, I mean,
I think it was more she justdidn't give a shit, that just

(50:05):
wanted her out of the store.But yeah, I'm saying unhelpful hand will
stay helpful. I guess. No, I hate it, but that they
caught it out. But I didthink that last night, Well that makes
me six loves out, you know. Oh, I'm so glad they pointed
that out. Really changed my life. Nobody's confused about the plot by these
little goofs and gaffs. Yeah,like it's only the filmmakers who can stay

(50:30):
helpful, you know. Yeah thatworked on the movie, exactly. That
exactly like the last one I readabout the Aluminum and the Steel that has
thirty helpful and it's like, well, yeah, it was interesting and it's
a gaff, but what does thathelp? Who is that helping? It's
absolutely nothing helpful about it, Butanybody's just bored. Honestly, what if

(50:54):
what if it's a big what ifit's like one of those like it's like
Nuco, you know, like IMDbthey're they're trying this out and get everyone
outraged by everyone who just mean thethree of us who, and then they're
gonna reintroduce uh interesting or not interesting. It would be a huge I mean
that would be I'd be thrilled andit would work on me. I've got

(51:16):
a dumb brain like that. It'dbe great. Yeah. Um, well,
that that's it. I have nouh, I don't think I have
any other commentary on this movie.So okay, all right, um well,
in that case, let's move overto a little segment. I'd like
to call a final thought in ratings. James, what the freaking heck?

(51:37):
O your your final thoughts? Andyou know what, go ahead and give
me your go ahead and give meyour rating at the end of it too.
Yeah, I listen. I wantedto love this movie. It just
didn't happen. I liked it.I think it's I think it's probably worth
a watch if you're a Cage fan. Um, if you're a fan of
film, I think it's it's probablyworth a watch. I don't know,

(51:59):
it's there's worse things you could dowith two hours of your time. Um,
but yeah, no, it's good. It's it's good. Not great.
Um, I'm gonna give it aseventy one. Have anyone being bada
boom a jun All right, whatare your thoughts? You know, based

(52:20):
on what I've said about this movie, it sounds like I'm slamming it.
Um. But I don't want torate it too harshly because, um,
you know, like I said,it was beautiful, it was artistic.
Um. I can really appreciate itas a piece of art, um,

(52:44):
more so than many of the filmsthat we've watched thus far. Um.
And you know the things that Ididn't like about it, I you know,
I'm I'm open minded. I cansee why Hank you are in favor
of a lot of these elements.I did watch it very sleepy. Um.

(53:07):
You know, so I didn't giveit my best attention. Uh.
And so yeah, I don't wantto grade it too harshly. I do
want to rewatch this movie someday,and and hopefully the next time through I'll
i'll have a better, better recollectionof it. But yeah, it is

(53:29):
a good movie. It's entertaining.The cage screams are are brilliant. Um
up there with with kick Ass andsome of his other great freak out moments
job. So, yeah, Iwas gonna give this a seventy four.

(53:50):
Seventy four cages, yeah, age, I think, Um, I think
you should you watch it because youknow, for me, I probably the
first time I watched it it wouldhave been high forties, low fifties.
This time went up to a seventyone. I can't see it maybe going
up. I don't see it gointo the eighties for me ever. But

(54:10):
I think you would enjoy it ifyou watched it, you know, maybe
not in the morning. I thinkyou'd enjoy it more if you watch it
not in the morning. But seventyfour is still a pretty good score.
Yeah, i'd say's for sure.We're an evening film, late later night
film. But cool. Um.Yeah, I love this movie. Obviously.

(54:32):
It hits me in a lot ofgood ways, and it's it's inspired
me a lot. There's something I'mworking on that is directly inspired from this
film and The Green Night, Andjust as someone that's been working in visual
effects for a few years now,I also just really appreciate how much practical
effects are used and special effects areused like it just you don't see a

(54:52):
lot of movies like this anymore thatare it's it's using actual like painted matt
backgrounds, and the lighting is beautifuland and I don't know, the whole
world that they built. It's justreally impressive. And then really it's it's
a it's a it's it's a it'san art that is slowly dying, the
amount of real practical things that arein this film, and so that I
appreciate a lot um Cage is funin it, you know, I I

(55:14):
you know, as I've said,I think it does work for me as
far as the whole establishing a longbit of love story in the beginning and
then seeing why he fights in theend. But I also totally get why
you guys and and a lot ofother people may not like totally love it,
because yeah, it's just it's it'sand I'll say, you don't like
unconventional things, but it is justvery unconventional. It is not what you
think it is when you go intowatching it, so that expectation will be

(55:35):
off. Um, but I fuckinglove this movie, uh you know,
and again this is what what broughtCage back, so we do give it
some love for that, because withoutthis movie, I I don't, you
know, I think there's a lotof stuff that wouldn't happen, um if
this movie wasn't just the way thatit was. Um. So as far
as his career goes, big upsfor that. Um. Not that that's
necessarily the movie, but also thatmeans we are I think I can say

(55:57):
it for real this time out ofthe trough except for those three movies,
Yeah, exactly. I don't knowabout eight eight more. I'm gonna keep
saying it though, but yeah,I love this movie. It speaks to
me dearly. Um. Last nightI was while I was watching, I
was trying to think, what doI want to rate this. Part of

(56:19):
me wants to give it a onehundred, just because of how much it
inspires me. Um. Part ofme isn't sure about that. But I'm
gonna give it one hundred because thismovie speaks to me in a lot of
ways, and I would highly recommendit. Uh not for children. Not
for children, but when you dowatch it, just be in. Let
it. Let it don't go intrying to rush through the movie. Let

(56:39):
it let it soak, soak in, you know, because there's there's a
lot to soak in there. Um. But yeah, that's your third your
third one hundred on this podcast.What were the vampires you lead the way
with one hundreds? Yeah, youhave Vampire's Kiss and um adaptation. Oh
yeah, that's yeah, that's Ihave a vampire's Kiss. I gave it

(57:01):
Vampire's Kiss one one sixty nine,but it is one hundred. Um.
Now, to be clear, Vampire'sKiss is still far and above beyond that.
Yeah, I mean that's that's whyI gave it a one sixty nine.
I still want anything close. I'vegiven two one hundred. Thanks given
you not to give overly generous,you know I'm a critic. Yeah,

(57:25):
no, you're not depending on vampires. Yes. Um, so this actually
our our eightieth movie. Here,Mandy ties with our first movie, Valley
Girl at an eighty two. Um, it puts it tied for seventeenth sixteenth
excuse me on our list. Itis one point behind both The Family Man
and The Rock, and it wasone point ahead of No. I think

(57:51):
that would be a great double featuresMandy and then The Family Man. It
would Um, yeah, I knowI have to I have to say this
real quick. We talked about apre show, um, but as it
is our eightieth episode, it shouldbe my turn for a Spotlight episode.
Yes, I have the movie pickedout. Do you guys want to know

(58:12):
what the movie is or so wewe did know? Yeah, gotta know
because I gotta make sure we haven'tseen it either. I know for a
fact you haven't seen it, um, but I do. There's a special
guest that I would like to bringon for the show. He is currently
traveling abroad by himself with Abroad umand uh he is, but I want

(58:32):
him on the movie. The movie. I was going to do the movie
money Plane, um, but ithas been out for so long. I
don't think Hank would like it moneyAnd so I'm not doing it. But
I'm doing a movie that those samethree brothers, the Lawrence Brothers, put
out called Mistletoe Mix Up. We'regonna have our second Christmas movie on the

(58:54):
podcast A Nice Christmas in July.We will be watching Mistletoe Mix Up.
Don't look at anything about it.You will not see the twists and the
turns coming. I was looking atmoney Plane. It is a perfect movie.
Luke has watched it, um,I think four times each Christmas time

(59:14):
for the last couple of years.So wow, he's He's the perfect person.
I would like to point out agoof yeah, we will watch the
second for next Christmas movie. We'vehad a good podcast. We had quite
a few Christmas movies on the podcast, Family Man, Christmas, Carol,
Trapped in Paradise. We have hadFamily Man, the Trapped in or Not

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Trap Christmas. You're right, you'reright, No, you're right. I
just I kind of wanted to well, you're right. I didn't want to
be like, this is our fourthChris, this is our second. I
just scared my yeah. Yeah,yeah, I didn't. I didn't know
I was going to beat Yeah.Yeahs to mix. Our first non cage

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Christmas movie is yeah, make youfeel better? Okay, and and and
because this is probably going to beI would think more listen to episode um
than some of our late recent ones. Um. Just in case you don't
know. We're doing that because ourSpotlight episodes are movies that we each go
around every ten films and one ofus fix a movie the other two haven't

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seen to go over it's a noncaage film. Just to keep things,
uh, keep things fresh. Yeah, so far, we've had Stopper,
My Mom will Shoot Action Jackson,Legend of grim As Island, Freddy got
figured legend of grim As Island wasahead of its time. Grimace is trending.
I wonder if you could not figureout which one picked in there the
list of films. These movies arenot zero, are not. I'm trying

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to find guys have watched before andit's impossible. Um. I did my
friend based on my recommendation. Ifeel like I would. I would like
them to try it and give metheir feedback because I am lactose intolerant and

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uh yeah, would would not bea good Grimace for me? Same yeah,
same yeah. Would would look thesame coming in as it didn't.
It would look the same it isgoing in. M Well, the same
consistency on that note, um,because we're not going to be watching Mistletoe

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mix Up exactly on their next episode. What will be? Will we be
watching on the next episode? Allright, next episode? We have a
movie that I have never heard of, except um for writing this list down.
It's called Looking Glass. Um.A couple A couple by a desert
motel where they find strange and mysteriousevents occur. This is a mystery thriller

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with Nicholas Cage, Robin at theTuni and a bunch of people I don't
recognize, so I don't know thisone at all. Yeah, I've I've
truly I've never heard of this movie. So well, it could be anything
then, yeah, it could be. Based on its IMDb rating, it's
not gonna be I already can't waittill gas and it's it's an hour forty

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three as well, so okay,you know their their tagline is seeing is
deceiving. H same, Yeah,and just wait because after that we've got
two eleven, the other movie Iknow so much about right before teen Titans
go to the movies, So yeah, out of the Trough and a great

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trilogy right there. Yeah, andum, well babe, well that's great.
Um all right, well that's it, bye bye whatever, Thanks for
listening, I guess yeah, thanks