August 14, 2024 • 57 mins
Have you ever met a woman at a truck stop just to find out her daughter is your reincarnated wife? Well thankfully, Cage has! Experience the spiritual thriller of a lifetime where our boy gets it on with whoever he can, whenever he can, hot dog!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, mess, I'm a lieutenant in the police department. I'm
in the middle of a homicide investigation. Try to get
my prescription please.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The whole time is standing there with this whom.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Me expression on your face?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Have you ever been dragging to the sidewalk?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm being till you best blood. No man has spilt
more blood in God's name than I.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
How in the name of Zeus's buttle did you get
out of yourself?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
What you really think?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I let myself get killed in a garbage truck.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Ha well, I hit in a soup can roll it
all the way to the city.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Dump because I was made for this, super baby, and
I have the care. I feel like I'm recording a
podcast for the first time. Oh, it feels like the
(01:08):
very first time.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think you go back to our last seven to
twelve episodes. They've all started exactly the same, which is
we're just moving week to week. Everything's been great.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Because we put a we put a cookie cutter introduction
on them.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
They also exactly that is your smart cookie buddy. We're back, baby,
The Wickermen are back, and I'm sure you guys have
seen it too. A lot of viewers have been xing
at us all the time, sitting exit. Yeah, and they're
(01:50):
always asking when's the next one? What's going on? It's
it's been so long since I've had this Wicker sized
hole in my life going on, and I want everyone
else there to be reassured that James, aj and I
have spent the last six months rebuilding the show from
the ground up to be better than ever. It's nothing
but but serious segments, sponsored content, and ad breaks unless
(02:16):
you pay the premium Wicker plan?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Actually did I build? Can I build off that? Real quick?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah? Yeah, Well you are a major part in this
overhaul that we've been doing.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
You You're right, n So I gotta ask no joke.
Get asked all the time. Hey, James, when's your next
burger review? James? What when's your next trivia show coming out? Hey?
Is is spurt Ability gonna have a new episode soon?
And then the fourth question I get asked all the time,
is you guys done with that Nick Cage podcast?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Is it over yet?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Nobody? Nobody wants, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But we're back, baby. We've been busy, we've been all
over the map, we've been a little between worlds, But
now we're back in it. There it is. Uh yeah,
episodes in yeah only getting better? Uh the Hang of
Wickerman two point oh here? Uh yeah, this is the Wickerman.
(03:14):
I'm Hank Kilgore joint as always with James Crown What
and aj Panzika.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I'm on a roof.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He's on a roof.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Oh nice, you're hiding enough.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, I know you're on a roof. We've been talking
for like twenty minutes, though you're just sitting in a park.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You're I'm straddling the dormer of a roof right now.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh, James, you miss it. There's a there's a like
a vulture like flying around him.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I think are you about to Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, And I'm cramping up a little because one side
of the roof is sloped differently than the other. Yeah,
I might have to keep adjusting myself or imagine a roof.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, but hey, are you the first person to a
podcast on a roof?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I'm doing it for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I don't have a whole lot of interesting things to
say about this movie.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
No, figured, why don't I just be on a roof?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah? So I'm curious for you guys. I hyped this
movie up to be absolutely abysmal. I actually tried really
hard to not be on this episode because I watched
this movie probably man before we started the podcast, so
probably like right after it came out, or a year
(04:35):
after it came out, I had watched this and and
just my memory of it was that it was maybe
the worst movie ever made. Did I overhype how bad
it was?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think he did. I think I did too, And
I mean I think other than rebuilding our entire foundation
of the podcast, we also spent the six months just
trying to avoid the film. Obviously, yes, you know, we
realized we had to get to it, but no, I
remember watching and I was like, I mean, it's not
a good movie, but it's a funny movie and it's
(05:07):
a fun watch, and I had.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
A really good one watching.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
This is one that I'm like, I would won one
hundred percent rewatch this with friends because it's just like
it's wild.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I would watch the first like thirty five minutes with
friends and then it starts losing me.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
But yeah, the nice thing is that it's only ninety minutes,
think christ So And the only thing that made that
feel long was because of the fucking ads. I kept
getting on plex, but otherwise.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It just said the most random time.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh, I'd be in the mid conversation and then suddenly.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
It's like Scratcher's Lottery presents, like fuck off.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, okay, so the movie we watched it's called Between Worlds.
It was directed by Maria Pulera and it was released
December twenty first, twenty eighteen, which I think this is
the last one that we have in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I'm not sure if the next one is. It was
Spider Verse twenty eighteen or nineteen ooh is that next?
I'll tell you right now that is next.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, it could have very well been the very end
of the year.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
That was twenty eighteen. So we got one more twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Okay, okay, well, very similar film to this one into
the Spider Person between us.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's the gist of it is you Got You Got
Cage as a as a down on his luck truck
driver named Joe and he doesn't have any money and
he's running out of options and he happens to be
at a store and he runs into a woman who
he thinks is being like assaulted in the bathroom, but
(06:40):
little does he know, she's actually trying to go into
the spirit world to talk to her Comato's daughter, and
that sets off a series of events that lead to
Cage dousing himself in gasoline.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yes, with the most real fire I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
As someone who's been working in visual effects for the
last four or five years, I have to say.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Top notch. Pretty good job on the fire top like
the only effect in the film.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
They really saved their whole budget for that.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, and it just blew it on the fire Yeah, yeah,
you more look.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Like he looked exactly like.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well, James, I wanted to ask, and I was going
to bring this up, so I'm glad you did. Now
that you've rewatched it for the pod, what do you
what are you feeling?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, I mean this is a terrible movie. There's no
two ways around it, to be clear. Just to be clear,
this movie is is terrible. I'm not sure what what
the point of this movie is. I don't think there
was a moral. I don't even I have a lot
of issues with the movie. However, for the Dogship movies
(07:59):
that I've watched, the three we've watched before this, they
have not all been bad. Of course, but we've watched
some really, really terrible, terrible movies. This was way more fun. Again,
I don't know that I would rewatch this with friends,
just because I think the whole premise makes me so uncomfortable. Like,
(08:19):
here's a question, why was the girl of high schooler?
She didn't need to be. It could have easily been
in her twenties, which I'm pretty sure she was thirty five,
and I.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Don't think that's possible, it's any other way around.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It so changed that then the whole plot just falls apart.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, so there's just they say teenager like three times.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
There's one issue, and you know what, for example, here's
another issue, just to throw out there. They talked the
They spend the entire movie talking about how Cage's wife accidentally,
which we find out not accidentally, burned the house down.
Then they go to the house at the end of
the movie. There's not a burn mark in sight.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Most of it's still attacts, little things like that, and
there's like there's like some graffiti on the wall and
like the mattresses a little ruffled up, but like it's fine.
And then I'm pretty sure after that they just.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Start burning ships. Yeah, exactly exactly. But to answer your question, no, Henk,
this was not nearly as bad as I thought. There's
a lot of funny moments in this movie. If I
wasn't exploding diary out of my ass all weekend, I
probably would have clipped off a good bit of audio.
I just didn't have the energy to do it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It's okay, there was there was a lot of good ship.
But the frustrating thing I thought about when watching this
about like talking about it on an audio podcast, is like,
there's so many moments that's purely visual that Cage does
in this film. That's it's so hard to describe, but
he really mannerisms. He looks like the Tiger King. You know,
(09:51):
it's awesome, Like.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
If the Tiger King.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, because I guess it's I'm, I'm it's supposed to
be in the South. I'm gonna guess it's Alabama just
because it one shirt. The daughter's wearing an Alabama shirt,
but it's Louisiana. Yeah, Cage is going all in on
a Southern accent, and I'm pretty sure everyone else is Canadian.
So it's like whenever the guys that the daughter got
(10:20):
a cart or the wreck with and when they came
to visit her in the hospital, the mom it's just like,
what are you doing here? Get out? Get out?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Wasn't she the South?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think she was.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I think she was. Yeah, I think she mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Believe German soldier's husband's name was Chilm.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So like, so, since we don't have audio, we'll just
kind of, you know, maybe throughout the pod talk through
some of the lines that we liked. And Hank you
brought up when the woman's getting choked at at the
rest stop in Cage quote unquote saves her but actually
kind of ruins everything. He uh, they walk outside and
(11:08):
she asked him, like, do you have a family, and
he takes out a photo of him his wife and
his daughter, my wife and daughter. He goes, oops, they're dad.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That was at the moment, yes, exactly a you're not
getting cookie cutter, which Cage doesn't really do too many
of the cookie cutter, but this was a Cage.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well, he's having a lot on this one than in
the last few that we watched, which made which is
what made it enjoyable at least because at least he
was I don't know if trying is the word but
he was doing something and that was fun. Everyone else
in the movie was very just like boring and baseline,
and he was at least putting. It doesn't have made
any sense unless his character is just the fucking psychopath.
(11:59):
But otherwise it's like, yeah, you know, because he would
go between he would go between us like, oh, yeah,
everything's just real tough and what are we doing? You know.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well, And and just to remind everyone, he was a
He could have gone to jail for life for sexually
assaulting a teenager in this movie.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, because
it's his wife. True.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, everyone knows that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, and everyone fully accepts it. No one questions the
very normal in this film.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Including that random nurse, like who was she in spirit world?
And why does she have a.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Download on everything metaphysical? Supernatural?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Who was who was.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
This woman that shows off at the end of the
movie random?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
It goes, you have my cajun queen right there.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
You should have let us do our job or whatever.
She's who was that?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I wanted to read it was the nurse that was
taking care of the girl when she was in the coma.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, she's she's a nurse. At the hospital because she
talked at the hospital and they talk in the spirit
world at the beginning.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Of the film. But I will be honest, I did
skip around a bit in this week. I definitely watched
about an hour of the hour.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Whenever I especially a film like this, I'm watching it
and it takes maybe twenty minutes and I have absolutely
no idea what's going on. I pull up the Wikipedia
and I follow along with the plot that someone else wrote.
And what I really liked about the nurse is this
is this is what they said about her in the
plot on Wikipedia. Julie is suspicious of Joe's and Billy's
behavior and speaks to a nurse from the hospital who
(13:34):
is knowledgeable about the logistics of the spirit world. Oh
so there you go.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Okay, she knew how did she know she was knowledgeable
about the works about it?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, she has a medical degree, dude.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I mean it's obvious that what she says in the
movie that was an.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
She's like this this I don't know, professionals, your guru
or whatever that like has these quick asides with the
mom and like giving me absolute play by play of like, well.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Her, yeah, right, she maybe she was responsible for some
of this, you know. Actually she's like, oh, did Joe
have anybody in his life that died might have been
a clean and attached to him his whole life?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yes, Well then she's swooped into the body and took
over your daughter. And if you don't get her soul
out of your daughter's body, then after a long enough time,
your daughter is never going to be able to come
back to her body.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And it's like, and her response to that is that.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Must be what's happening.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But then she like goes specifically to consult with this
lady later on to be like, how do I get
this bitch out?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Like what's happening?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah? I really like those two bows that was that
Billy was friends with as well. Relief, Yeah, the comic relief,
but head I enjoyed them. Those two are also very
clearly high school.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Her lines at the end, like the main guy, uh
he believe. Yeah, he suddenly just became like a like
a like a little comedian with everything he said, which
I just just reriding me. I got to read the cast.
It's in a minute. Oh yeah, there we go, and
then this will give us the characternames obviously we got
our boy, Nick Cage, Joe, we got Franka Potente as Julie.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
It's the Ranco Partente.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Ranca Potent.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Definitely heard that name before reading what I'm saying, probably
just recited it a thousand times because brain, what a
name such.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And she's low. Yeah, Penelope Mitchell plays Billy, who is
the teenager that gets taken over by Nick Cage's dead
wife's body or spirit. Garrett Clayton is Mike, who're just
talking about? Uh? And then his his his his butt
head to his Beavis, his hopper pin, his Ricke.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Sean Penn and Robin Wright's kid did not get their
talent unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Not the same that everything gets passed on. Oh and
then I guess Lydia Hurst is Mary Major's who is
you see a little bit that's his that's his dead wife.
But you see her sometimes, yeah, you basically only see
her with one boob out.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's yes how you see her. And then of course
nurse Aster it is Gwendolyn mccahn.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yes, great, yes, yes, so yeah, what I right off
the bat. One thing I mentally noted that I really
liked was when Cage is at the gas station he's
you know, he like he walks up to the registered
to buy some cigarettes or something, and you know, it's like,
bring me up, and so he does, and instead of
leaving the store, then he goes and just continues to browse.
(17:04):
He makes his person. That's how he found out that
someone was like yelling in the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I love I love that scene when he busts in
there and then just starts beating the crap out of
that guy.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Aggressive.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
She's like, no, stop, stop, and.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
That ain't how we treat women in the South. Boy.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
So good, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's great because then after that, like he kicks this
guy's ass. She's saying, no, no, no, this is I
asked him to do this. No, no, no, and he
just keeps doing it. And then like she just says
all right and walks out to his truck and like
she starts about to go like it's into his truck
and then they start talking and that's when she's like, no,
I want him to do that so I can communicate
(17:55):
with my Gomaso's daughter's spirit. And Cage is just like,
oh yeah, it must be nice having a daughter, you know,
and that's little oops. They're dead moment, and the whole
time it looks like she's like about to get into
like the driver's seat of this truck. But then she goes, hey,
would you mind giving me a ride to Biloxi?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I have such a problem with the truck logistics.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
The truck made no sense, right, She's a truck.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Driver at the truck stop, got to call that her
daughter was in a coma and then find the first
random trucker that she could to choke her out.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
So she's there with her truck. She's she's going.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Over to get stuff out of her own truck, and
then she asks for a ride because she's scared she'll
pass out, maybe because.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
She just got choked.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I can't answer.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
The only thing I could.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Think of, well, it's it's not only that, but it's
also that He then drives the truck and stays at
her place for three days, driving her around, and then
it's like, I'm a little off schedule. Of course, you
get fired and lose your truck, and he gets upset
about it, like it's there and he gets.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Mad like they're screwing him over because see, not only
because the first he takes her to the hospital where
he says for what feels like an entire day, and
then back to their house and yes, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I gotta be there at noon, and then it's like
three days lamp out. Yeah, it cuts from like hardcore
sex scene to just title.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well it cuts from hardcore sex scene to back in
the truck, and you realize, oh, this is cage thinking
about what's going to happen to then hardcore sex scene, and.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Then it happens.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
He just he just breaks that lamp and then they're
done having sex, and that lamp is just fine right there.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What I liked about coffee thing is like, up until
before he gets to their house, he's constantly asking her
if she wants to eat coffee, and she keeps saying no, no, no,
I can't have caffeine because then like the choking going
to the spirit world won't work as well. And they
make like a like a running joke, like it's a
whole thing, and then she goes, hey, do you want
to go back to my house and have some coffee?
(20:20):
She starts making them golfe and she drinks it, so
what is happening? And then she starts boring you know,
she's pouring like whiskey into it, and then she goes, hey,
you want something, and he goes, no, I shouldn't. I'm
about to start driving. And then she goes, no, no, no,
it just starts poring it. You're drugging this man. He's
about to drive across.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, every everybody knows the only way you can first
have sex with someone is if you share a whiskey coffee.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So I have a little whiskey coffee whiskey.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
There is a go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I was just saying there. There is a clip I
wish they would recorded, but it's when I for like,
she's like coming on to him the first time and
he's like, I don't know, I shouldn't. I don't know,
and she's like, come on, come on, and he goes
all right, all right, you want to have sex. You
want to have sex, You want to have sex, and
she goes yeah, and he goes.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
What was what was the thing he told? Was it
her or was he talking to his wife? I know
it later in the movies, like reading from that book,
which was weird, But what was he the name of
the book.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Did you Nicholas Cage?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
That was his personal memoir poetry book.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
They were doing that weird crossover sex scene thing that
kept changing locations, and he's reading this book of poems
or whatever from you know, to to his dead wife
and the teenager's body, and and like I just happened
to see a you know, like what and I paused
it and it says Nicholas Cage on.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That that is amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what that was supposed to be.
But and it wasn't that in his lock box, like
that was in his personal items like box.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
So it was what it was what his wife wanted
him to read to her while they fornicated, and so
then you know she was still into it even, Yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I missed that.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I was talking about the other scene where he's like,
recite what what was he saying? He was saying something
like say say this, say it like this.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh yeah, it was whenever they were in I think
it was the attic. I don't know it was the
mom's hidden fucking like like yeah, layer smoke watching from yeah,
and and because you know, she's trying to be quiet
because she thinks her daughter is sleeping in cage. It's
just he's hammered. He's high on his fucking minds, and
(23:00):
he's just like say fuck me, say fuck me. Come on,
you know how she says fuck me, fuck me like that.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's what it was.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's so weird. It's so weird, and what really sucks
to it's just dumb is like I get that it's
supposed to be her daughter, you know, Julie's daughter Billy,
but also like the actors, I could never tell who
was who, like the whole time, you know, like when
it would sit on them for a minutes, like, oh yeah,
obviously that's like the mom or the daughter, But like
I can never tell who was talking to who in
(23:38):
the fucking movie. Part.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Part of the reason for that is casting a thirty
two year old and the mom's only like five years old.
In exactly it's Frank Cup, it says the.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Spanish film, which is interesting.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
They gone and done.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Let me answer that for you, Hank, it wasn't a
Spanish film.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
We need the wiki.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, so this is kind of off topic.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Please anything else we went We were.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Talking about the character names, So can you do you
guys know how many times Cage has been just Joe
in a film that we've watched so far, and how
many times he's been Joe with the last name.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I feel like it's been a lot. It has. It's
not as many as I just made it see, but
ye right, right, four, this is the fourth time. Any
guesses I'm gonna say, I'm going to say seven, including.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I had thought six. A j was right, it is four. Okay.
He he's Joe Enders and wind Talkers, He's Joe and
Bangkok Dangerous. He's Joe in the movie Joe Joe. He's
Joe in Between Worlds. Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So just a little fun trivia, yeah, and hopefully we
get another one.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That has to be some kind of record, right, I
mean when you're when you're dealing with the man who
does nine hundred films a year, like there's only so
many like names, you know, for the world.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
But but I don't think he has a single other
repeat name. That's what's amazing. There's no other bath.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
He definitely does Detective.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
That's true. And I guess he is Benjamin Franklin Gates more.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Than Benny Gates. Baby. Yeah. Yeah, So there's like there's
like I was kind of moving it into like as
as we find out, you know, what's going on in
the film. It's it's you know, the daughter's not in
a comb she was on like a car, motorcycle crash
or something, and so she was no no injuries, face,
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little scar face, little face bruising.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
But where your helmet?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Where your helmet? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Where helmet?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
They're smoking pot. This is whenever he's about to get
said like the fuck me me, you know thing, and
like you know, he's like trying to be serious with her,
you know, he's to Julie. He's like he's like, so yeah,
I mean, you know, like, how's Billy doing? And then
like the mom just starts laughing. It just goes she's okay,
and he goes, oh, well, I mean she took a
(26:43):
pretty hard knock on the head and she just loses it,
going yeah, thought her almost died, do either of you guys?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I wish I could remember the bra even once right
back line where Cage is saying he says something to
the daughter as he like puts her to bed and
lies and then she's like, wait, I thought we were
doing the rhyming thing. Do you remember the exact rhyme?
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It was if when you rest, you heal. When you heal,
you the better you'll better you'll feel.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And then what does she say?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And then she says, yes.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
To means good for the heart. The more you eat,
the more you far, the better you f.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
This was Cage's version of that. And so I guess
the the whole time that the daughter like wakes back
up from the hospital, it's now the mom's spirits within her.
She also doesn't question it. And I think what gets
me the most of this film is not a single
person cares or questions or does anything about the fact
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that demons are real, the spirit world is real. This
is valid stuff, you know. No, we're not going to
go to the police because we know what this is.
This is another woman's spirit in this kid's body.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
But it helps that they all saw it in a
vision before it happened.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
True, Yeah, that goes a lot like.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Cage saw his wife in the room with the girl,
the girl saw his wife in the room with her,
The mom saw the wife and the girl in the room.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And also a snippet of Cage fucking her daughter.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yes, it's like, hey, maybe don't like just invite him
to stay forever.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Well, that's part of her vision.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Not only did she see it in the vision, and
not only does the daughter jerk him off over the
pants under a blanket.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
When he still thinks that's just the daughter, which exactly
he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
He has no idea that that's his wife. He exists
a seventeen years old. Well, this is just happening, I
guess yeah, that's giving him the driest worst hand job over.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
For the genes and made me think of and always sunny,
the Thanksgiving one ever Gale the snail. And then he
just goes, she's just mashing it.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
So not these things happen. But the mom also sees
Cage and the daughter having like a water fight on
the motorcycle. The most sexual. That was the most sexual
thing I saw the whole movie. In a movie full
of sex.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It's so good. He's like he's just like sprang the
hose around and going, yeah, this is.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That's after he finds out that that is his wife. Yeah,
because she's been like trying to seduce him, like throughout
the whole time, when I mean, you could have just
pulled him aside and a point like hey, I'm actually
your wife. You don't have to just try to fuck
him first, like.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yes, but sure exactly. I like that scene though, where
she's completely naked in the mirror, Oh yeah, holding the
dress up just like, wait, I guess hoping that cage
happens to walk by. It's sending there for fifteen minutes,
but I'm not really sure, like what, I don't know,
what I don't know. It wasn't like overly sexual for
so it was just.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
A wonder because yeah, it was. It was almost like,
it's like, how if this movie was made a more
traditional way, it's almost maybe like the oh wait, something's
not right, maybe she's possessed, and then we could do
what I yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
It felt like there was something wrong with her brain.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Instead, it becomes insane comedy.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So yeah, no, there's no horror elements to it at all.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
No, was it supposed to be you know what you
would call it has no fantasy, mystery, thriller, no comedy.
Let's see, this wasn't supposed to be funny at all.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And then if you James, you spell up a little
bit on the storyline, it just says kinky sex, sex scene,
truck trapper answering the door, shirtless, and directed by female
wa that that's on TV. It's under storyline. And then
it has and then little like kiky.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Sex sex scene, answering the doors, hospital, hospital bed, cardiac arrest.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
This is this is how I tag when I upload
our episodes of the show, and you can put little
like categories. I just put ship like that, like.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Male pubic hair. Could you have imagine being the depraved
fool that's going on IMDb to search all movies with
male pubic.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Hair, But this is the only one that shows up.
I guess I'm watching Between Worlds.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
That is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
My Instagram for that.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah, m that's unfortunately. So she's directed Between Worlds and
falsely accused, which, to be fair, has a cumulative score
of seven point three. This is the direction that's not bad,
but three point nine to three point four that's that's rough.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
You gotta start somewhere. Yeah, you know, well she Maria Polara,
she wrote it as well.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
So I was a woman, Yeah, yes, yes it was.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
This is like some secon fantasy that just blew my mind.
I thought it had to be like a male that
was Perbert.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
But I guess you missed the IMDb tags.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But yeah, yeah, you gotta check when I watch a
film truck driver directed by female, that's what that's fucking up. Yeah, actually, James,
that might be it. Like maybe it is just like
more of an erotic thriller sort of idea just executed.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Not great again, though, what's the eroticism?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Like, it's not yeah, not when it's a fucking yeah,
seventeen year old.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, it's taking over you know it the movie.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
You don't know how old she was. It said teenager,
so we could assume that we only have a few.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
We only got a few through here.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, well it's it's somewhere between thirteen and eighteen because
she's in high school. I'm gonna say she's probably seventeen
because these kind of movies, they usually like to make
them like a junior in high school.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, and she was still you know yeah, so I
don't know, I think and you know what, you know what,
even if she is eighteen, I still see it as
a problem. Yes, exactly. His cage is like fifty yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was gross.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It was gross. Yeah, we turned on throughout it, though,
what I would do I don't Okay, can we talk
about the end of the movie. Well, yeah, yeah, we can. Yeah,
go to visit the old house that's supposedly burned down
and definitely.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Was not completely standing misfortunes.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Good, yeah, now that we should probably set up. This
is after they they're like, we need to get money. Oh,
what's the quickest way to do that. Let's go to
the beefish and butt heeads house, beat one of them up,
shoot one of the others, and just take what's in
their wallet, which had to be what like fifty bucks?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
No, he was a wee dealer, so it had to
be at least but hey worth, Yeah, where did you
kill a man?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Over?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
But wait, wait, how did she know where they lived?
And how did she know?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yes, wait, that's actually a good points reaching into the dice.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
She doesn't have access to the memories of the girl.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Yeah, exactly, she should not have known anything about any
of that.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
I think it makes sense that was That was also
hugely problematic for me.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I was like, Okay, if she has access to the
girl's memories and is the the consciousness of the mom,
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
You have to like, you have to somehow explain that
to the viewer, but.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
They don't know, and maybe it's because the movie was
in Spanish. It was a little bit lost in translation.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yes, yeah, it is a Spanish film with all Canadian
and Nick Cage in English speaking out A J. James,
Do y'all think the film was at the top of
its comedy game? This is again, it's definitely a comedy.
When she's like, hey, do you have any leftovers and
(36:15):
he's like, yeah, we got some leftover waffle fries for
roll ups that yes, sure, what's the leftover for? I?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Okay, here's what I want to talk about with that.
Here's why is the mom and Mike bargain which A J.
You you're talking about? How did they know? How did
they know? How did the daughter know where Mike lived?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
How did Mike and the mom know where Cage lived?
Now that's because I actually, real quick, I just thought
of maybe how she knows where Mike and whatever they
maybe because there is a moment that they established that
she's like texting on her phone or something, So maybe
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them or it's like in her contacts or something.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Now, as for I still don't like it. But as
for how the mom that guy know where Cage's house is?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I was, I was, I was genuinely shocked when they
walked in the room because that made no sense to me.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Where did they get the spring lights James?
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Because the slight he didn't still live there. So if
you even want to tell me, like, oh, she saw
it on his license or something, surely she did it
because he didn't live there anymore because the house was
burnt down, which it wasn't, but.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
It wasn't at all.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It was repossessed or something like. It's like it was
not in his house anymore anyways, So there is.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
No way that she could know unless when she was
choked out, maybe she figured out. I don't know, I
don't know she saw.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
In the spirit.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, so I had this issue. And then they come
to the house, which again to me was like a
jump scare because I was not expecting that she shows
up and immediately gets shot. When she gets shot, she
somehow saves the daughter and the daughter comes back and
Mike says, is it really you?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Where did we meet first?
Speaker 4 (38:25):
And she says home ac class and then it's all good.
And then without even a second thought, they just leave
the mom Thereah, the mom. Mike gives his word that
the mom's dead.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
She was shot.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Maybe twenty five seconds ago. Do you want to at
least like pick her up and bring her out of
the house so you can at least want to check
her the hospital.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, call an ambulance. Nah, that's that was the same
argument they had when when Caid shot Rick. He even
goes on ambulance and the daughter's like, no, we need.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
To just leave. Nah all right, But Rick made more
sense because ricked in a meaning to either of them, Right, Mom,
here's this daughter back from you know who knows that?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
And at least Kate had the kindness to even think,
should we call an ambulance?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah, well whatever?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
And and could you imagine the mind fuck where you're
on a motorcycle, you go into a coma and you
wake up in a burning house and your mom's dead
next to you. She doesn't bat an eye.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Your friend Mike, he's got a gun. Okay.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So the theory that makes this possible is if it
is still the wife and she does have access to
the girl's memory, and so she fools Mike because he's
a dufist.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
And now she's like, I'm still back.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I got a young homebody, and I'm a fucking psycho
and I'm gonna go crazy on this world.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Someone says sequel.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Needed and Joe Joe came back the spirit of the nurse.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
From the hospital.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Well he's no, he's hanging on attached to Mike's body, right,
and then Mike has a near death experienced and Cage
gets back in.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Could be this this all could be we need to
make but it could.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Anything is possible, Maria. Is this what I reach out
to is to make between worlds too? Yes, and it's
gonna be called between two worlds.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
I love it. I love it, Henk I've been sitting
here for the last trying to figure out how to
make that work.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Be back. Yeah, yeah, actually, I Am says that's the
number one answer.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I love. You're on the roof right now. I keep
forgetting and then imagine, like the neighbors like to get
down pretty just talk.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
I can't imagine how terrible it is. I don't have
really anything else to say about this, so I'm happy
if we start rapping.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, it's it's more of a visual. I just want
to point out there's like a moment when Cage is
knocking at the door. This is I think before we
find out that or before he finds out that the
daughter is the wife or whatever. But Julie answers it,
and you don't really hear them talk. But Cagy does this.
He does like a fist bump, pulls it back, does
a little bit of that, pulls it back into a fist,
(41:29):
and then goes and I just well, it's really funny
a bit of that.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
I actually got a question for you both. If I
were to ask you the question. If I were to
ask you this question, how would you respond?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
So?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
You know, answer at will?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
So?
Speaker 4 (41:52):
So do you want to beer? Yes? Okay, j how
would you?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
I does the tin man have a sheet metal cock?
Which is?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Which is? That's a good uh. Two minutes before that,
she asked him if he wanted a beer, and he
just said, oh, I love one, and she pulled two
beers out. He went to like chain shirts or something,
came back and then she says again, do you want
a beer?
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That's when he says to that there are there are
an unbelievable amount of continuity errors in the double takes
and unbelievable man.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Whenever he's having his like uh, whenever he's having that moment,
whenever he's breaking down because like the Larry his boss
or whatever is like extorting him, like you don't give
me five hundred bucks, I'm keeping your lock box of
you know, all your you know, wife's photos and shit.
And it's like this really weird thing where I don't
know if it's just they were just leving letting cage improv,
but it's like what you see in comedy movies. For like,
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he's like sobbing and sobbing, and then like it just
jump cuts and then he's just like go and then
there's this is happening at this and then it jump
cuts into oh, I just want my what and then.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? Well, it's
like this the sex scenes too.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
It was all.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Yeah, it was very strange, awful. I looked up the
quotes because I was trying to find I knew there
was a couple of other quotes. None of the ones
that people put on IMDb are good. I mean, they
have the she Metal Cock one, they had the Slare Dead,
which is good. The other ones are pouring. But the
first one they have, which eleven people marked helpful, you
(43:25):
know what I'll market is okay. Now, this is epic
you remember that quote. Of course not people would remember that.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
This is epic. I just watched this movie, like I
can't even think about Yeah, I have no.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
No clue, no clue. But anyway, yeah, you want to
do our final?
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Yeah, I guess thanks for that.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Well, I was just trying to think of what he says.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
He does You'll never Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Anyways, let's got a little segment.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I like to call.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
The final No no, no one more and ratings one more.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Morphy jumped back, absolu. Do you have any questions?
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Well, I get off this roof.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Do you have any questions for me? Hank about goofs
and gas?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Oh? Well it is October twenty fifth today, and I'd
love to see. Oh there's any cools?
Speaker 4 (44:34):
There were there were gouls of this movie. There were
there was gools of this movie. Are when she goes
to the spear world, there's gules.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
We made this cool worlds. I knew I liked this movie.
I knew I liked it. I was so excited for
you to ask me this whole time, just like just
just like both of our computer setups. I'm broken too.
It's only been once six months. There was ghoules think
(45:05):
it's pretty awesome. Yeah, it's been a long time coming,
I tell you that much.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
It has been.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
I'm so happy there was ghouls. There's really not talk
about in the coops of the gas.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, I can't imagine again flawless film.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
So so I'll just give you a couple we can
we can say helpful or not helpful. There was one
about the lamp. Okay, during Joe and Julie sex scene,
there's a lamp on the table next to the couch.
The camera cuts their faces as they get more vigorous,
causing the table to shake violently. Suddenly there's a sound
of something smashing to the floor and the light source
that was next to them disappears, indicating the lamp fell
(45:44):
and our cups back after they were covering. The lamp
is on the table and undamaged, which I already said,
is it helpful? Is it not helpful? Not helpful? Who cares?
Who cares?
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Who took the time to write this for between worlds?
Speaker 5 (45:58):
In the scene?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Insane? Just wait for this next d During the robbery,
when Bobby enters the room, there's a chair in front
of the TV. When Joe comes in during the struggle,
the chair is missing. What, No, where's the chair?
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Where's the chair? No?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
No, that must be helpful. That's pretty helpful. That's helpful
for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
And you know, in a film about ghosts and spirit
worlds and nurses, I don't I think that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
So yeah, I mean for.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
There to be three things written in the goose of
gas section, and this is one of them. And then finally,
and then finally, some pervert wrote this. Five people found
this helpful. During Joe and Julie's sex scene, he takes
off her bra and grabs her breasts. The next shot
the bra is on then off again.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Yeah, that that I noticed, and it bothers me.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
It's interesting this guy will give it helpful. This guy
was sitting there really into this movie, right, and then
he's like, oh, here we go. Finally that's some sex.
But then he noticed that and it took him right
out of damn it. He needed a reason to write breast.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
So I am for him.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, helpful, helpful.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Yeah, there you go. That's that's it for the I'm
just I'm just happy there was guls.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I'm stunned, amazed and happy today that they were.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
So exciting.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
But I feel like I didn't even really see the gules,
you know, you just.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
They were implied. But I was thinking about, like, between Worlds,
there's definitely ghouls around.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
That's gonna be I'm gonna write a book Unimplied Guls,
Implied Gould Memories by Nicholas Cage. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
I want to copy.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, well, let's move into a little segment I like
to call final thoughts and ratings H James Between Worlds.
What are your final thoughts? Uh in ratings?
Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yeah, I don't. I don't want to get people to
get out of thank you. We had a lot of
laughs this movie, or this this podcast. We laughed about
a lot of things. We had a jolly good time.
I just want to reiterate the fact that this is
a terrible, terrible movie. I don't really recommend that you
watch it. I think if you can find a super
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cut of Cage in this movie, or essentially do what
I did and skip through the scenes that they didn't
have Cage in it, except for that one scene with
the nurse that was a good scene, I think I
think you will probably enjoy this movie a lot more.
But I just say in good concerence, I just can't
rate this like in the eighties, or I just have
(49:09):
to to twenty. It's this is the that's the best
I could do. Twenty cages. It's got cages. Great, It's
just come on, let's let's be real about what this is.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, okay, twenty out of one. Hundo u aj the
man from the roof now the man in the.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Car imbarked from my altitude, brilliant.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, do you need a minute to breathe? To readjust
your you know, it's it's a lot of a height
difference going on there.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
What thank you? I do you need a minute to breathe?
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Yeah? Take a minute. Yeah, no, we'll wait, Yeah we'll wait,
no problem, no problem.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
Yeah dead air a dead air, no, no take this
is this is very much live air. I not for Billy.
I like I like the movie.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
I think James set us up to really be predisposed
to thinking it was gonna be atrocious, and I think
the caginess of it was pretty redeeming. Probably wouldn't have
liked it as much with another actor, but in the movie,
wasn't that bad that it really like made me feel
(50:25):
upset that I watched it. It was just astonishing that
this could be the plot of a movie.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Pot and the fact that I'm pretty sure it was
shot on a handheld like it looked awful, not on.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
The iPhone thirteen.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, I mean just you know, abysmal job directing and
writing dialogue, but at a bysmal job, sorry to say it.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
By Franka Potente. Age. Cage had some moments. It was
a fun ride.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
I would probably rate it like a twenty without cages,
but then I'm gonna I'm going to give that another
fifteen cages for Cage, and then I'm going to give
it another fifteen cages for the memoir of the poem's members.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
Cage featured, and I don't I forget what it was.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
We probably should have clipped it, but there were some
readings that you could perhaps like assume are from that
book when he's banging her at the very end, and
it's all very dramatic and theatrical.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
The only phrase I remembered was golden cock.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yes, but.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Something about a golden cock. And you know what I think,
I think that needs to be represented in the sequel more. Okay, Yeah,
Theselas Cage personal poems.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
So you're giving it a fifty, Yes, Okay, I would
like to amend my score as well. So I actually
did a similar thing to aj If this was a
movie without Caje, it would probably be getting a two.
So I gave it eighteen for the Cages. I'd actually
like to give it another three for the memories or
memoirs of Nicholas Cage. Yes, I'm gonna upline to a
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twenty three. Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
Oh so brave of you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
That is it's connivertual, but it's brave and it was
and that's thank you.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Of course. Well, it was a film that I watched
today and I thought it was I had a good
time watching it. I was laughing throughout it, and I
wasn't like, compared to a lot of stuff we watched
on the show, it was bad. It was very bad,
but it was the enjoyable bad. And it was I
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think what made it work compared to other movies we
watched that just suck and aren't even fun or funny
or anything. Is at least the movie for all of
its faults, it was it was in It was like
this is the story and we're just rolling with it,
no questions asked, Like this is just what it is
and the fact that they were so basically committed to
the bit of it all I appreciate. Other than that
(53:21):
it's awful, I think it's I had enough fun watching
about myself that I would want to watch it with friends.
I would definitely not recommend it to children of any kind, No,
unless they have sexual fantasies about gross fifty year old
and maybe watch this so you can say, never do
that anyone. Yeah, if you're gonna if your parents showing
this to your child, it's it should be for a lesson.
(53:43):
It's like asa, Yeah, we will show this at the
gym and schools be like guys under a sexist a crime.
But you know, yeah, I had a lot of fun
and I'm gonna I'm gonna amend before I even give
it to you. I was originally gonna give this a
thirty five out of one hundred cages. Okay, but yes,
due to the memories by Nicholas Cage the book within
(54:05):
the movie of him reading it about his own golden cock,
I'm gonna give it thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
That's n cages. So you hank three points from you
as well, yes, yeah, yeah, bonus three. So what is
that thirty eight fifty. Yeah, so I gave it a
twenty three. You gave it a thirty eight a fifty
that brings us to thirty seven cages out of one hundred,
that puts this at stand by standby. Uh what did
(54:33):
I say it was?
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Uh? I don't think you said anyway in a second.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah, okay, I said it was thirty seven thirty seven
seven That puts it at our sixty eighth ranked movie.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
So close, right, it is right behind City of Angels.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
And Firebirds, which aj and I were just talking about
City of Angels, and it is right ahead of Time
to Kill, which we also just talked about.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
The City of Angel is the one where his name
was seth plate.
Speaker 5 (55:04):
Uh huh, yes, that plate he got to he got
to choose name late said, chose his mortality for mortality
immediately day.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
He wasn't a smart man.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
They were angels or whatever.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, and James, you actually said this before we started
the pot or like recording today's episode, but we should
point out today's date as a recording. This is in
fact six nine. Yes, everyone, hope everyone gets six in.
Speaker 5 (55:39):
Yeah, I thought you were going to say about the
date that the movie came out.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Now, that was December twenty first, twenty eighteen. Did you
have some history about it age, Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
Really on November twenty of twenty eighteen, and that is
as of course you all know the David JFK got shot, Yes.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
In twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
Yeah, Also Uncle Michael's birthday, terrible year, Great Uncle Michael.
Sometimes is Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (56:10):
What I think?
Speaker 1 (56:13):
No? Probably not well, I think the last thing I
want to say, maybe it is who knows Franca Potente.
I just wanted to say it one more time.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
On the other.
Speaker 5 (56:29):
I don't know anything about her.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
I just want to say watch, Yeah, we got to
hear what do we got?
Speaker 4 (56:34):
What do we got next? I think we already said it.
But next week we got Spider Man into the Spider Verse.
I'm not even going to try to trick you with
all the great cast that's in it. Yeah, but I'm
very very excited for Nicholas Cage Spider Man or, which
we'll talk about more next week, but him into his
first TV series.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Very excited and the whole thing is a live action
Spider Man or, yes, which sounds perfecick. Well, Wickerman's back, baby,
We'll catch you guys next year, and uh you enjoyed
our one eis year. Uh Franko button h
Hello, mess, I'm a lieutenant in the police department. I'm
in the middle of a homicide investigation. Try to get
my prescription please.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The whole time is standing there with this whom.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Me expression on your face?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Have you ever been dragging to the sidewalk?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm being till you best blood. No man has spilt
more blood in God's name than I.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
How in the name of Zeus's buttle did you get
out of yourself?
Speaker 5 (00:38):
What you really think?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I let myself get killed in a garbage truck.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Ha well, I hit in a soup can roll it
all the way to the city.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Dump because I was made for this, super baby, and
I have the care. I feel like I'm recording a
podcast for the first time. Oh, it feels like the
(01:08):
very first time.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think you go back to our last seven to
twelve episodes. They've all started exactly the same, which is
we're just moving week to week. Everything's been great.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Because we put a we put a cookie cutter introduction
on them.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
They also exactly that is your smart cookie buddy. We're back, baby,
The Wickermen are back, and I'm sure you guys have
seen it too. A lot of viewers have been xing
at us all the time, sitting exit. Yeah, and they're
(01:50):
always asking when's the next one? What's going on? It's
it's been so long since I've had this Wicker sized
hole in my life going on, and I want everyone
else there to be reassured that James, aj and I
have spent the last six months rebuilding the show from
the ground up to be better than ever. It's nothing
but but serious segments, sponsored content, and ad breaks unless
(02:16):
you pay the premium Wicker plan?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Actually did I build? Can I build off that? Real quick?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah? Yeah, Well you are a major part in this
overhaul that we've been doing.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
You You're right, n So I gotta ask no joke.
Get asked all the time. Hey, James, when's your next
burger review? James? What when's your next trivia show coming out? Hey?
Is is spurt Ability gonna have a new episode soon?
And then the fourth question I get asked all the time,
is you guys done with that Nick Cage podcast?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Is it over yet?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Nobody? Nobody wants, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But we're back, baby. We've been busy, we've been all
over the map, we've been a little between worlds, But
now we're back in it. There it is. Uh yeah,
episodes in yeah only getting better? Uh the Hang of
Wickerman two point oh here? Uh yeah, this is the Wickerman.
(03:14):
I'm Hank Kilgore joint as always with James Crown What
and aj Panzika.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I'm on a roof.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He's on a roof.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Oh nice, you're hiding enough.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, I know you're on a roof. We've been talking
for like twenty minutes, though you're just sitting in a park.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You're I'm straddling the dormer of a roof right now.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh, James, you miss it. There's a there's a like
a vulture like flying around him.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I think are you about to Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, And I'm cramping up a little because one side
of the roof is sloped differently than the other. Yeah,
I might have to keep adjusting myself or imagine a roof.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, but hey, are you the first person to a
podcast on a roof?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I'm doing it for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I don't have a whole lot of interesting things to
say about this movie.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
No, figured, why don't I just be on a roof?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah? So I'm curious for you guys. I hyped this
movie up to be absolutely abysmal. I actually tried really
hard to not be on this episode because I watched
this movie probably man before we started the podcast, so
probably like right after it came out, or a year
(04:35):
after it came out, I had watched this and and
just my memory of it was that it was maybe
the worst movie ever made. Did I overhype how bad
it was?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think he did. I think I did too, And
I mean I think other than rebuilding our entire foundation
of the podcast, we also spent the six months just
trying to avoid the film. Obviously, yes, you know, we
realized we had to get to it, but no, I
remember watching and I was like, I mean, it's not
a good movie, but it's a funny movie and it's
(05:07):
a fun watch, and I had.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
A really good one watching.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
This is one that I'm like, I would won one
hundred percent rewatch this with friends because it's just like
it's wild.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I would watch the first like thirty five minutes with
friends and then it starts losing me.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
But yeah, the nice thing is that it's only ninety minutes,
think christ So And the only thing that made that
feel long was because of the fucking ads. I kept
getting on plex, but otherwise.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It just said the most random time.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh, I'd be in the mid conversation and then suddenly.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
It's like Scratcher's Lottery presents, like fuck off.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, okay, so the movie we watched it's called Between Worlds.
It was directed by Maria Pulera and it was released
December twenty first, twenty eighteen, which I think this is
the last one that we have in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I'm not sure if the next one is. It was
Spider Verse twenty eighteen or nineteen ooh is that next?
I'll tell you right now that is next.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, it could have very well been the very end
of the year.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
That was twenty eighteen. So we got one more twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Okay, okay, well, very similar film to this one into
the Spider Person between us.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's the gist of it is you Got You Got
Cage as a as a down on his luck truck
driver named Joe and he doesn't have any money and
he's running out of options and he happens to be
at a store and he runs into a woman who
he thinks is being like assaulted in the bathroom, but
(06:40):
little does he know, she's actually trying to go into
the spirit world to talk to her Comato's daughter, and
that sets off a series of events that lead to
Cage dousing himself in gasoline.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yes, with the most real fire I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
As someone who's been working in visual effects for the
last four or five years, I have to say.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Top notch. Pretty good job on the fire top like
the only effect in the film.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
They really saved their whole budget for that.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, and it just blew it on the fire Yeah, yeah,
you more look.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Like he looked exactly like.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well, James, I wanted to ask, and I was going
to bring this up, so I'm glad you did. Now
that you've rewatched it for the pod, what do you
what are you feeling?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, I mean this is a terrible movie. There's no
two ways around it, to be clear. Just to be clear,
this movie is is terrible. I'm not sure what what
the point of this movie is. I don't think there
was a moral. I don't even I have a lot
of issues with the movie. However, for the Dogship movies
(07:59):
that I've watched, the three we've watched before this, they
have not all been bad. Of course, but we've watched
some really, really terrible, terrible movies. This was way more fun. Again,
I don't know that I would rewatch this with friends,
just because I think the whole premise makes me so uncomfortable. Like,
(08:19):
here's a question, why was the girl of high schooler?
She didn't need to be. It could have easily been
in her twenties, which I'm pretty sure she was thirty five,
and I.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Don't think that's possible, it's any other way around.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It so changed that then the whole plot just falls apart.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, so there's just they say teenager like three times.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
There's one issue, and you know what, for example, here's
another issue, just to throw out there. They talked the
They spend the entire movie talking about how Cage's wife accidentally,
which we find out not accidentally, burned the house down.
Then they go to the house at the end of
the movie. There's not a burn mark in sight.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Most of it's still attacts, little things like that, and
there's like there's like some graffiti on the wall and
like the mattresses a little ruffled up, but like it's fine.
And then I'm pretty sure after that they just.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Start burning ships. Yeah, exactly exactly. But to answer your question, no, Henk,
this was not nearly as bad as I thought. There's
a lot of funny moments in this movie. If I
wasn't exploding diary out of my ass all weekend, I
probably would have clipped off a good bit of audio.
I just didn't have the energy to do it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It's okay, there was there was a lot of good ship.
But the frustrating thing I thought about when watching this
about like talking about it on an audio podcast, is like,
there's so many moments that's purely visual that Cage does
in this film. That's it's so hard to describe, but
he really mannerisms. He looks like the Tiger King. You know,
(09:51):
it's awesome, Like.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
If the Tiger King.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, because I guess it's I'm, I'm it's supposed to
be in the South. I'm gonna guess it's Alabama just
because it one shirt. The daughter's wearing an Alabama shirt,
but it's Louisiana. Yeah, Cage is going all in on
a Southern accent, and I'm pretty sure everyone else is Canadian.
So it's like whenever the guys that the daughter got
(10:20):
a cart or the wreck with and when they came
to visit her in the hospital, the mom it's just like,
what are you doing here? Get out? Get out?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Wasn't she the South?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think she was.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I think she was. Yeah, I think she mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Believe German soldier's husband's name was Chilm.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So like, so, since we don't have audio, we'll just
kind of, you know, maybe throughout the pod talk through
some of the lines that we liked. And Hank you
brought up when the woman's getting choked at at the
rest stop in Cage quote unquote saves her but actually
kind of ruins everything. He uh, they walk outside and
(11:08):
she asked him, like, do you have a family, and
he takes out a photo of him his wife and
his daughter, my wife and daughter. He goes, oops, they're dad.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That was at the moment, yes, exactly a you're not
getting cookie cutter, which Cage doesn't really do too many
of the cookie cutter, but this was a Cage.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well, he's having a lot on this one than in
the last few that we watched, which made which is
what made it enjoyable at least because at least he
was I don't know if trying is the word but
he was doing something and that was fun. Everyone else
in the movie was very just like boring and baseline,
and he was at least putting. It doesn't have made
any sense unless his character is just the fucking psychopath.
(11:59):
But otherwise it's like, yeah, you know, because he would
go between he would go between us like, oh, yeah,
everything's just real tough and what are we doing? You know.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well, And and just to remind everyone, he was a
He could have gone to jail for life for sexually
assaulting a teenager in this movie.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, because
it's his wife. True.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, everyone knows that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, and everyone fully accepts it. No one questions the
very normal in this film.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Including that random nurse, like who was she in spirit world?
And why does she have a.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Download on everything metaphysical? Supernatural?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Who was who was.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
This woman that shows off at the end of the
movie random?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
It goes, you have my cajun queen right there.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
You should have let us do our job or whatever.
She's who was that?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I wanted to read it was the nurse that was
taking care of the girl when she was in the coma.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, she's she's a nurse. At the hospital because she
talked at the hospital and they talk in the spirit
world at the beginning.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Of the film. But I will be honest, I did
skip around a bit in this week. I definitely watched
about an hour of the hour.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Whenever I especially a film like this, I'm watching it
and it takes maybe twenty minutes and I have absolutely
no idea what's going on. I pull up the Wikipedia
and I follow along with the plot that someone else wrote.
And what I really liked about the nurse is this
is this is what they said about her in the
plot on Wikipedia. Julie is suspicious of Joe's and Billy's
behavior and speaks to a nurse from the hospital who
(13:34):
is knowledgeable about the logistics of the spirit world. Oh
so there you go.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Okay, she knew how did she know she was knowledgeable
about the works about it?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, she has a medical degree, dude.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I mean it's obvious that what she says in the
movie that was an.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
She's like this this I don't know, professionals, your guru
or whatever that like has these quick asides with the
mom and like giving me absolute play by play of like, well.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Her, yeah, right, she maybe she was responsible for some
of this, you know. Actually she's like, oh, did Joe
have anybody in his life that died might have been
a clean and attached to him his whole life?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yes, Well then she's swooped into the body and took
over your daughter. And if you don't get her soul
out of your daughter's body, then after a long enough time,
your daughter is never going to be able to come
back to her body.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And it's like, and her response to that is that.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Must be what's happening.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But then she like goes specifically to consult with this
lady later on to be like, how do I get
this bitch out?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Like what's happening?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah? I really like those two bows that was that
Billy was friends with as well. Relief, Yeah, the comic relief,
but head I enjoyed them. Those two are also very
clearly high school.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Her lines at the end, like the main guy, uh
he believe. Yeah, he suddenly just became like a like
a like a little comedian with everything he said, which
I just just reriding me. I got to read the cast.
It's in a minute. Oh yeah, there we go, and
then this will give us the characternames obviously we got
our boy, Nick Cage, Joe, we got Franka Potente as Julie.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
It's the Ranco Partente.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Ranca Potent.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Definitely heard that name before reading what I'm saying, probably
just recited it a thousand times because brain, what a
name such.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And she's low. Yeah, Penelope Mitchell plays Billy, who is
the teenager that gets taken over by Nick Cage's dead
wife's body or spirit. Garrett Clayton is Mike, who're just
talking about? Uh? And then his his his his butt
head to his Beavis, his hopper pin, his Ricke.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Sean Penn and Robin Wright's kid did not get their
talent unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Not the same that everything gets passed on. Oh and
then I guess Lydia Hurst is Mary Major's who is
you see a little bit that's his that's his dead wife.
But you see her sometimes, yeah, you basically only see
her with one boob out.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's yes how you see her. And then of course
nurse Aster it is Gwendolyn mccahn.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yes, great, yes, yes, so yeah, what I right off
the bat. One thing I mentally noted that I really
liked was when Cage is at the gas station he's
you know, he like he walks up to the registered
to buy some cigarettes or something, and you know, it's like,
bring me up, and so he does, and instead of
leaving the store, then he goes and just continues to browse.
(17:04):
He makes his person. That's how he found out that
someone was like yelling in the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I love I love that scene when he busts in
there and then just starts beating the crap out of
that guy.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Aggressive.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
She's like, no, stop, stop, and.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
That ain't how we treat women in the South. Boy.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
So good, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's great because then after that, like he kicks this
guy's ass. She's saying, no, no, no, this is I
asked him to do this. No, no, no, and he
just keeps doing it. And then like she just says
all right and walks out to his truck and like
she starts about to go like it's into his truck
and then they start talking and that's when she's like, no,
I want him to do that so I can communicate
(17:55):
with my Gomaso's daughter's spirit. And Cage is just like,
oh yeah, it must be nice having a daughter, you know,
and that's little oops. They're dead moment, and the whole
time it looks like she's like about to get into
like the driver's seat of this truck. But then she goes, hey,
would you mind giving me a ride to Biloxi?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I have such a problem with the truck logistics.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
The truck made no sense, right, She's a truck.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Driver at the truck stop, got to call that her
daughter was in a coma and then find the first
random trucker that she could to choke her out.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
So she's there with her truck. She's she's going.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Over to get stuff out of her own truck, and
then she asks for a ride because she's scared she'll
pass out, maybe because.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
She just got choked.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I can't answer.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
The only thing I could.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Think of, well, it's it's not only that, but it's
also that He then drives the truck and stays at
her place for three days, driving her around, and then
it's like, I'm a little off schedule. Of course, you
get fired and lose your truck, and he gets upset
about it, like it's there and he gets.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Mad like they're screwing him over because see, not only
because the first he takes her to the hospital where
he says for what feels like an entire day, and
then back to their house and yes, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I gotta be there at noon, and then it's like
three days lamp out. Yeah, it cuts from like hardcore
sex scene to just title.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well it cuts from hardcore sex scene to back in
the truck, and you realize, oh, this is cage thinking
about what's going to happen to then hardcore sex scene, and.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Then it happens.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
He just he just breaks that lamp and then they're
done having sex, and that lamp is just fine right there.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What I liked about coffee thing is like, up until
before he gets to their house, he's constantly asking her
if she wants to eat coffee, and she keeps saying no, no, no,
I can't have caffeine because then like the choking going
to the spirit world won't work as well. And they
make like a like a running joke, like it's a
whole thing, and then she goes, hey, do you want
to go back to my house and have some coffee?
(20:20):
She starts making them golfe and she drinks it, so
what is happening? And then she starts boring you know,
she's pouring like whiskey into it, and then she goes, hey,
you want something, and he goes, no, I shouldn't. I'm
about to start driving. And then she goes, no, no, no,
it just starts poring it. You're drugging this man. He's
about to drive across.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, every everybody knows the only way you can first
have sex with someone is if you share a whiskey coffee.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So I have a little whiskey coffee whiskey.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
There is a go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I was just saying there. There is a clip I
wish they would recorded, but it's when I for like,
she's like coming on to him the first time and
he's like, I don't know, I shouldn't. I don't know,
and she's like, come on, come on, and he goes
all right, all right, you want to have sex. You
want to have sex, You want to have sex, and
she goes yeah, and he goes.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
What was what was the thing he told? Was it
her or was he talking to his wife? I know
it later in the movies, like reading from that book,
which was weird, But what was he the name of
the book.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Did you Nicholas Cage?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
That was his personal memoir poetry book.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
They were doing that weird crossover sex scene thing that
kept changing locations, and he's reading this book of poems
or whatever from you know, to to his dead wife
and the teenager's body, and and like I just happened
to see a you know, like what and I paused
it and it says Nicholas Cage on.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That that is amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what that was supposed to be.
But and it wasn't that in his lock box, like
that was in his personal items like box.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
So it was what it was what his wife wanted
him to read to her while they fornicated, and so
then you know she was still into it even, Yeah,
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I missed that.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I was talking about the other scene where he's like,
recite what what was he saying? He was saying something
like say say this, say it like this.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh yeah, it was whenever they were in I think
it was the attic. I don't know it was the
mom's hidden fucking like like yeah, layer smoke watching from yeah,
and and because you know, she's trying to be quiet
because she thinks her daughter is sleeping in cage. It's
just he's hammered. He's high on his fucking minds, and
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he's just like say fuck me, say fuck me. Come on,
you know how she says fuck me, fuck me like that.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's what it was.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's so weird. It's so weird, and what really sucks
to it's just dumb is like I get that it's
supposed to be her daughter, you know, Julie's daughter Billy,
but also like the actors, I could never tell who
was who, like the whole time, you know, like when
it would sit on them for a minutes, like, oh yeah,
obviously that's like the mom or the daughter, But like
I can never tell who was talking to who in
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the fucking movie. Part.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Part of the reason for that is casting a thirty
two year old and the mom's only like five years old.
In exactly it's Frank Cup, it says the.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Spanish film, which is interesting.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
They gone and done.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Let me answer that for you, Hank, it wasn't a
Spanish film.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
We need the wiki.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, so this is kind of off topic.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Please anything else we went We were.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Talking about the character names, So can you do you
guys know how many times Cage has been just Joe
in a film that we've watched so far, and how
many times he's been Joe with the last name.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I feel like it's been a lot. It has. It's
not as many as I just made it see, but
ye right, right, four, this is the fourth time. Any
guesses I'm gonna say, I'm going to say seven, including.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I had thought six. A j was right, it is four. Okay.
He he's Joe Enders and wind Talkers, He's Joe and
Bangkok Dangerous. He's Joe in the movie Joe Joe. He's
Joe in Between Worlds. Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So just a little fun trivia, yeah, and hopefully we
get another one.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That has to be some kind of record, right, I
mean when you're when you're dealing with the man who
does nine hundred films a year, like there's only so
many like names, you know, for the world.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
But but I don't think he has a single other
repeat name. That's what's amazing. There's no other bath.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
He definitely does Detective.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
That's true. And I guess he is Benjamin Franklin Gates more.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Than Benny Gates. Baby. Yeah. Yeah, So there's like there's
like I was kind of moving it into like as
as we find out, you know, what's going on in
the film. It's it's you know, the daughter's not in
a comb she was on like a car, motorcycle crash
or something, and so she was no no injuries, face,
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little scar face, little face bruising.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
But where your helmet?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Where your helmet? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Where helmet?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
They're smoking pot. This is whenever he's about to get
said like the fuck me me, you know thing, and
like you know, he's like trying to be serious with her,
you know, he's to Julie. He's like he's like, so yeah,
I mean, you know, like, how's Billy doing? And then
like the mom just starts laughing. It just goes she's okay,
and he goes, oh, well, I mean she took a
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pretty hard knock on the head and she just loses it,
going yeah, thought her almost died, do either of you guys?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I wish I could remember the bra even once right
back line where Cage is saying he says something to
the daughter as he like puts her to bed and
lies and then she's like, wait, I thought we were
doing the rhyming thing. Do you remember the exact rhyme?
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It was if when you rest, you heal. When you heal,
you the better you'll better you'll feel.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And then what does she say?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And then she says, yes.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
To means good for the heart. The more you eat,
the more you far, the better you f.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
This was Cage's version of that. And so I guess
the the whole time that the daughter like wakes back
up from the hospital, it's now the mom's spirits within her.
She also doesn't question it. And I think what gets
me the most of this film is not a single
person cares or questions or does anything about the fact
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that demons are real, the spirit world is real. This
is valid stuff, you know. No, we're not going to
go to the police because we know what this is.
This is another woman's spirit in this kid's body.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
But it helps that they all saw it in a
vision before it happened.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
True, Yeah, that goes a lot like.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Cage saw his wife in the room with the girl,
the girl saw his wife in the room with her,
The mom saw the wife and the girl in the room.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And also a snippet of Cage fucking her daughter.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yes, it's like, hey, maybe don't like just invite him
to stay forever.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Well, that's part of her vision.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Not only did she see it in the vision, and
not only does the daughter jerk him off over the
pants under a blanket.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
When he still thinks that's just the daughter, which exactly
he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
He has no idea that that's his wife. He exists
a seventeen years old. Well, this is just happening, I
guess yeah, that's giving him the driest worst hand job over.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
For the genes and made me think of and always sunny,
the Thanksgiving one ever Gale the snail. And then he
just goes, she's just mashing it.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
So not these things happen. But the mom also sees
Cage and the daughter having like a water fight on
the motorcycle. The most sexual. That was the most sexual
thing I saw the whole movie. In a movie full
of sex.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
It's so good. He's like he's just like sprang the
hose around and going, yeah, this is.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That's after he finds out that that is his wife. Yeah,
because she's been like trying to seduce him, like throughout
the whole time, when I mean, you could have just
pulled him aside and a point like hey, I'm actually
your wife. You don't have to just try to fuck
him first, like.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yes, but sure exactly. I like that scene though, where
she's completely naked in the mirror, Oh yeah, holding the
dress up just like, wait, I guess hoping that cage
happens to walk by. It's sending there for fifteen minutes,
but I'm not really sure, like what, I don't know,
what I don't know. It wasn't like overly sexual for
so it was just.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
A wonder because yeah, it was. It was almost like,
it's like, how if this movie was made a more
traditional way, it's almost maybe like the oh wait, something's
not right, maybe she's possessed, and then we could do
what I yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
It felt like there was something wrong with her brain.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Instead, it becomes insane comedy.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So yeah, no, there's no horror elements to it at all.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
No, was it supposed to be you know what you
would call it has no fantasy, mystery, thriller, no comedy.
Let's see, this wasn't supposed to be funny at all.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And then if you James, you spell up a little
bit on the storyline, it just says kinky sex, sex scene,
truck trapper answering the door, shirtless, and directed by female
wa that that's on TV. It's under storyline. And then
it has and then little like kiky.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Sex sex scene, answering the doors, hospital, hospital bed, cardiac arrest.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
This is this is how I tag when I upload
our episodes of the show, and you can put little
like categories. I just put ship like that, like.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Male pubic hair. Could you have imagine being the depraved
fool that's going on IMDb to search all movies with
male pubic.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Hair, But this is the only one that shows up.
I guess I'm watching Between Worlds.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
That is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
My Instagram for that.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah, m that's unfortunately. So she's directed Between Worlds and
falsely accused, which, to be fair, has a cumulative score
of seven point three. This is the direction that's not bad,
but three point nine to three point four that's that's rough.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
You gotta start somewhere. Yeah, you know, well she Maria Polara,
she wrote it as well.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
So I was a woman, Yeah, yes, yes it was.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
This is like some secon fantasy that just blew my mind.
I thought it had to be like a male that
was Perbert.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
But I guess you missed the IMDb tags.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But yeah, yeah, you gotta check when I watch a
film truck driver directed by female, that's what that's fucking up. Yeah, actually, James,
that might be it. Like maybe it is just like
more of an erotic thriller sort of idea just executed.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Not great again, though, what's the eroticism?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Like, it's not yeah, not when it's a fucking yeah,
seventeen year old.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, it's taking over you know it the movie.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
You don't know how old she was. It said teenager,
so we could assume that we only have a few.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
We only got a few through here.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, well it's it's somewhere between thirteen and eighteen because
she's in high school. I'm gonna say she's probably seventeen
because these kind of movies, they usually like to make
them like a junior in high school.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, and she was still you know yeah, so I
don't know, I think and you know what, you know what,
even if she is eighteen, I still see it as
a problem. Yes, exactly. His cage is like fifty yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was gross.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It was gross. Yeah, we turned on throughout it, though,
what I would do I don't Okay, can we talk
about the end of the movie. Well, yeah, yeah, we can. Yeah,
go to visit the old house that's supposedly burned down
and definitely.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Was not completely standing misfortunes.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Good, yeah, now that we should probably set up. This
is after they they're like, we need to get money. Oh,
what's the quickest way to do that. Let's go to
the beefish and butt heeads house, beat one of them up,
shoot one of the others, and just take what's in
their wallet, which had to be what like fifty bucks?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
No, he was a wee dealer, so it had to
be at least but hey worth, Yeah, where did you
kill a man?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Over?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
But wait, wait, how did she know where they lived?
And how did she know?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yes, wait, that's actually a good points reaching into the dice.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
She doesn't have access to the memories of the girl.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Yeah, exactly, she should not have known anything about any
of that.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
I think it makes sense that was That was also
hugely problematic for me.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I was like, Okay, if she has access to the
girl's memories and is the the consciousness of the mom,
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
You have to like, you have to somehow explain that
to the viewer, but.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
They don't know, and maybe it's because the movie was
in Spanish. It was a little bit lost in translation.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yes, yeah, it is a Spanish film with all Canadian
and Nick Cage in English speaking out A J. James,
Do y'all think the film was at the top of
its comedy game? This is again, it's definitely a comedy.
When she's like, hey, do you have any leftovers and
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he's like, yeah, we got some leftover waffle fries for
roll ups that yes, sure, what's the leftover for? I?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Okay, here's what I want to talk about with that.
Here's why is the mom and Mike bargain which A J.
You you're talking about? How did they know? How did
they know? How did the daughter know where Mike lived?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
How did Mike and the mom know where Cage lived?
Now that's because I actually, real quick, I just thought
of maybe how she knows where Mike and whatever they
maybe because there is a moment that they established that
she's like texting on her phone or something, So maybe
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them or it's like in her contacts or something.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Now, as for I still don't like it. But as
for how the mom that guy know where Cage's house is?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I was, I was, I was genuinely shocked when they
walked in the room because that made no sense to me.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Where did they get the spring lights James?
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Because the slight he didn't still live there. So if
you even want to tell me, like, oh, she saw
it on his license or something, surely she did it
because he didn't live there anymore because the house was
burnt down, which it wasn't, but.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
It wasn't at all.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It was repossessed or something like. It's like it was
not in his house anymore anyways, So there is.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
No way that she could know unless when she was
choked out, maybe she figured out. I don't know, I
don't know she saw.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
In the spirit.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, so I had this issue. And then they come
to the house, which again to me was like a
jump scare because I was not expecting that she shows
up and immediately gets shot. When she gets shot, she
somehow saves the daughter and the daughter comes back and
Mike says, is it really you?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Where did we meet first?
Speaker 4 (38:25):
And she says home ac class and then it's all good.
And then without even a second thought, they just leave
the mom Thereah, the mom. Mike gives his word that
the mom's dead.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
She was shot.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Maybe twenty five seconds ago. Do you want to at
least like pick her up and bring her out of
the house so you can at least want to check
her the hospital.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, call an ambulance. Nah, that's that was the same
argument they had when when Caid shot Rick. He even
goes on ambulance and the daughter's like, no, we need.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
To just leave. Nah all right, But Rick made more
sense because ricked in a meaning to either of them, Right, Mom,
here's this daughter back from you know who knows that?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
And at least Kate had the kindness to even think,
should we call an ambulance?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah, well whatever?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
And and could you imagine the mind fuck where you're
on a motorcycle, you go into a coma and you
wake up in a burning house and your mom's dead
next to you. She doesn't bat an eye.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Your friend Mike, he's got a gun. Okay.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So the theory that makes this possible is if it
is still the wife and she does have access to
the girl's memory, and so she fools Mike because he's
a dufist.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
And now she's like, I'm still back.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I got a young homebody, and I'm a fucking psycho
and I'm gonna go crazy on this world.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Someone says sequel.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Needed and Joe Joe came back the spirit of the nurse.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
From the hospital.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Well he's no, he's hanging on attached to Mike's body, right,
and then Mike has a near death experienced and Cage
gets back in.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Could be this this all could be we need to
make but it could.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Anything is possible, Maria. Is this what I reach out
to is to make between worlds too? Yes, and it's
gonna be called between two worlds.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
I love it. I love it, Henk I've been sitting
here for the last trying to figure out how to
make that work.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Be back. Yeah, yeah, actually, I Am says that's the
number one answer.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I love. You're on the roof right now. I keep
forgetting and then imagine, like the neighbors like to get
down pretty just talk.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
I can't imagine how terrible it is. I don't have
really anything else to say about this, so I'm happy
if we start rapping.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, it's it's more of a visual. I just want
to point out there's like a moment when Cage is
knocking at the door. This is I think before we
find out that or before he finds out that the
daughter is the wife or whatever. But Julie answers it,
and you don't really hear them talk. But Cagy does this.
He does like a fist bump, pulls it back, does
a little bit of that, pulls it back into a fist,
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and then goes and I just well, it's really funny
a bit of that.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
I actually got a question for you both. If I
were to ask you the question. If I were to
ask you this question, how would you respond?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
So?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
You know, answer at will?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
So?
Speaker 4 (41:52):
So do you want to beer? Yes? Okay, j how
would you?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
I does the tin man have a sheet metal cock?
Which is?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Which is? That's a good uh. Two minutes before that,
she asked him if he wanted a beer, and he
just said, oh, I love one, and she pulled two
beers out. He went to like chain shirts or something,
came back and then she says again, do you want
a beer?
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That's when he says to that there are there are
an unbelievable amount of continuity errors in the double takes
and unbelievable man.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Whenever he's having his like uh, whenever he's having that moment,
whenever he's breaking down because like the Larry his boss
or whatever is like extorting him, like you don't give
me five hundred bucks, I'm keeping your lock box of
you know, all your you know, wife's photos and shit.
And it's like this really weird thing where I don't
know if it's just they were just leving letting cage improv,
but it's like what you see in comedy movies. For like,
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he's like sobbing and sobbing, and then like it just
jump cuts and then he's just like go and then
there's this is happening at this and then it jump
cuts into oh, I just want my what and then.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? Well, it's
like this the sex scenes too.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
It was all.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Yeah, it was very strange, awful. I looked up the
quotes because I was trying to find I knew there
was a couple of other quotes. None of the ones
that people put on IMDb are good. I mean, they
have the she Metal Cock one, they had the Slare Dead,
which is good. The other ones are pouring. But the
first one they have, which eleven people marked helpful, you
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know what I'll market is okay. Now, this is epic
you remember that quote. Of course not people would remember that.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
This is epic. I just watched this movie, like I
can't even think about Yeah, I have no.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
No clue, no clue. But anyway, yeah, you want to
do our final?
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Yeah, I guess thanks for that.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Well, I was just trying to think of what he says.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
He does You'll never Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Anyways, let's got a little segment.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I like to call.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
The final No no, no one more and ratings one more.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Morphy jumped back, absolu. Do you have any questions?
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Well, I get off this roof.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Do you have any questions for me? Hank about goofs
and gas?
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Oh? Well it is October twenty fifth today, and I'd
love to see. Oh there's any cools?
Speaker 4 (44:34):
There were there were gouls of this movie. There were
there was gools of this movie. Are when she goes
to the spear world, there's gules.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
We made this cool worlds. I knew I liked this movie.
I knew I liked it. I was so excited for
you to ask me this whole time, just like just
just like both of our computer setups. I'm broken too.
It's only been once six months. There was ghoules think
(45:05):
it's pretty awesome. Yeah, it's been a long time coming,
I tell you that much.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
It has been.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
I'm so happy there was ghouls. There's really not talk
about in the coops of the gas.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, I can't imagine again flawless film.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
So so I'll just give you a couple we can
we can say helpful or not helpful. There was one
about the lamp. Okay, during Joe and Julie sex scene,
there's a lamp on the table next to the couch.
The camera cuts their faces as they get more vigorous,
causing the table to shake violently. Suddenly there's a sound
of something smashing to the floor and the light source
that was next to them disappears, indicating the lamp fell
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and our cups back after they were covering. The lamp
is on the table and undamaged, which I already said,
is it helpful? Is it not helpful? Not helpful? Who cares?
Who cares?
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Who took the time to write this for between worlds?
Speaker 5 (45:58):
In the scene?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Insane? Just wait for this next d During the robbery,
when Bobby enters the room, there's a chair in front
of the TV. When Joe comes in during the struggle,
the chair is missing. What, No, where's the chair?
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Where's the chair? No?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
No, that must be helpful. That's pretty helpful. That's helpful
for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
And you know, in a film about ghosts and spirit
worlds and nurses, I don't I think that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
So yeah, I mean for.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
There to be three things written in the goose of
gas section, and this is one of them. And then finally,
and then finally, some pervert wrote this. Five people found
this helpful. During Joe and Julie's sex scene, he takes
off her bra and grabs her breasts. The next shot
the bra is on then off again.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Yeah, that that I noticed, and it bothers me.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
It's interesting this guy will give it helpful. This guy
was sitting there really into this movie, right, and then
he's like, oh, here we go. Finally that's some sex.
But then he noticed that and it took him right
out of damn it. He needed a reason to write breast.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
So I am for him.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, helpful, helpful.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Yeah, there you go. That's that's it for the I'm
just I'm just happy there was guls.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I'm stunned, amazed and happy today that they were.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
So exciting.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
But I feel like I didn't even really see the gules,
you know, you just.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
They were implied. But I was thinking about, like, between Worlds,
there's definitely ghouls around.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
That's gonna be I'm gonna write a book Unimplied Guls,
Implied Gould Memories by Nicholas Cage. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
I want to copy.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, well, let's move into a little segment I like
to call final thoughts and ratings H James Between Worlds.
What are your final thoughts? Uh in ratings?
Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yeah, I don't. I don't want to get people to
get out of thank you. We had a lot of
laughs this movie, or this this podcast. We laughed about
a lot of things. We had a jolly good time.
I just want to reiterate the fact that this is
a terrible, terrible movie. I don't really recommend that you
watch it. I think if you can find a super
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cut of Cage in this movie, or essentially do what
I did and skip through the scenes that they didn't
have Cage in it, except for that one scene with
the nurse that was a good scene, I think I
think you will probably enjoy this movie a lot more.
But I just say in good concerence, I just can't
rate this like in the eighties, or I just have
(49:09):
to to twenty. It's this is the that's the best
I could do. Twenty cages. It's got cages. Great, It's
just come on, let's let's be real about what this is.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, okay, twenty out of one. Hundo u aj the
man from the roof now the man in the.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Car imbarked from my altitude, brilliant.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, do you need a minute to breathe? To readjust
your you know, it's it's a lot of a height
difference going on there.
Speaker 5 (49:40):
What thank you? I do you need a minute to breathe?
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Yeah? Take a minute. Yeah, no, we'll wait, Yeah we'll wait,
no problem, no problem.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
Yeah dead air a dead air, no, no take this
is this is very much live air. I not for Billy.
I like I like the movie.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
I think James set us up to really be predisposed
to thinking it was gonna be atrocious, and I think
the caginess of it was pretty redeeming. Probably wouldn't have
liked it as much with another actor, but in the movie,
wasn't that bad that it really like made me feel
(50:25):
upset that I watched it. It was just astonishing that
this could be the plot of a movie.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Pot and the fact that I'm pretty sure it was
shot on a handheld like it looked awful, not on.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
The iPhone thirteen.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, I mean just you know, abysmal job directing and
writing dialogue, but at a bysmal job, sorry to say it.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
By Franka Potente. Age. Cage had some moments. It was
a fun ride.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
I would probably rate it like a twenty without cages,
but then I'm gonna I'm going to give that another
fifteen cages for Cage, and then I'm going to give
it another fifteen cages for the memoir of the poem's members.
Speaker 5 (51:20):
Cage featured, and I don't I forget what it was.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
We probably should have clipped it, but there were some
readings that you could perhaps like assume are from that
book when he's banging her at the very end, and
it's all very dramatic and theatrical.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
The only phrase I remembered was golden cock.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yes, but.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Something about a golden cock. And you know what I think,
I think that needs to be represented in the sequel more. Okay, Yeah,
Theselas Cage personal poems.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
So you're giving it a fifty, Yes, Okay, I would
like to amend my score as well. So I actually
did a similar thing to aj If this was a
movie without Caje, it would probably be getting a two.
So I gave it eighteen for the Cages. I'd actually
like to give it another three for the memories or
memoirs of Nicholas Cage. Yes, I'm gonna upline to a
(52:26):
twenty three. Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
Oh so brave of you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
That is it's connivertual, but it's brave and it was
and that's thank you.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Of course. Well, it was a film that I watched
today and I thought it was I had a good
time watching it. I was laughing throughout it, and I
wasn't like, compared to a lot of stuff we watched
on the show, it was bad. It was very bad,
but it was the enjoyable bad. And it was I
(52:57):
think what made it work compared to other movies we
watched that just suck and aren't even fun or funny
or anything. Is at least the movie for all of
its faults, it was it was in It was like
this is the story and we're just rolling with it,
no questions asked, Like this is just what it is
and the fact that they were so basically committed to
the bit of it all I appreciate. Other than that
(53:21):
it's awful, I think it's I had enough fun watching
about myself that I would want to watch it with friends.
I would definitely not recommend it to children of any kind, No,
unless they have sexual fantasies about gross fifty year old
and maybe watch this so you can say, never do
that anyone. Yeah, if you're gonna if your parents showing
this to your child, it's it should be for a lesson.
(53:43):
It's like asa, Yeah, we will show this at the
gym and schools be like guys under a sexist a crime.
But you know, yeah, I had a lot of fun
and I'm gonna I'm gonna amend before I even give
it to you. I was originally gonna give this a
thirty five out of one hundred cages. Okay, but yes,
due to the memories by Nicholas Cage the book within
(54:05):
the movie of him reading it about his own golden cock,
I'm gonna give it thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
That's n cages. So you hank three points from you
as well, yes, yeah, yeah, bonus three. So what is
that thirty eight fifty. Yeah, so I gave it a
twenty three. You gave it a thirty eight a fifty
that brings us to thirty seven cages out of one hundred,
that puts this at stand by standby. Uh what did
(54:33):
I say it was?
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Uh? I don't think you said anyway in a second.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah, okay, I said it was thirty seven thirty seven
seven That puts it at our sixty eighth ranked movie.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
So close, right, it is right behind City of Angels.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
And Firebirds, which aj and I were just talking about
City of Angels, and it is right ahead of Time
to Kill, which we also just talked about.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
The City of Angel is the one where his name
was seth plate.
Speaker 5 (55:04):
Uh huh, yes, that plate he got to he got
to choose name late said, chose his mortality for mortality
immediately day.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
He wasn't a smart man.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
They were angels or whatever.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, and James, you actually said this before we started
the pot or like recording today's episode, but we should
point out today's date as a recording. This is in
fact six nine. Yes, everyone, hope everyone gets six in.
Speaker 5 (55:39):
Yeah, I thought you were going to say about the
date that the movie came out.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Now, that was December twenty first, twenty eighteen. Did you
have some history about it age, Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
Really on November twenty of twenty eighteen, and that is
as of course you all know the David JFK got shot, Yes.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
In twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
Yeah, Also Uncle Michael's birthday, terrible year, Great Uncle Michael.
Sometimes is Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (56:10):
What I think?
Speaker 1 (56:13):
No? Probably not well, I think the last thing I
want to say, maybe it is who knows Franca Potente.
I just wanted to say it one more time.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
On the other.
Speaker 5 (56:29):
I don't know anything about her.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
I just want to say watch, Yeah, we got to
hear what do we got?
Speaker 4 (56:34):
What do we got next? I think we already said it.
But next week we got Spider Man into the Spider Verse.
I'm not even going to try to trick you with
all the great cast that's in it. Yeah, but I'm
very very excited for Nicholas Cage Spider Man or, which
we'll talk about more next week, but him into his
first TV series.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Very excited and the whole thing is a live action
Spider Man or, yes, which sounds perfecick. Well, Wickerman's back, baby,
We'll catch you guys next year, and uh you enjoyed
our one eis year. Uh Franko button h
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