Ep. 90 - “Primal" (2019)

There's a beast on this ole' ship, and let me tell ya, it aint the white jaguar... it's FRANK WALSH! 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, mess, I'm a lieutenant in the police department. I'm
in the middle of a homicide investigation.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Try I get my prescription please.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
The whole time is standing there with this whom.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Me expression on your face?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Have you ever been dragging to the sidewalk and being.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
To you best blood? No man has spilt more blood
in God's name than I.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
How in the name of Zeus's buttle did you get
out of yourself?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
What you really think?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I let myself get killed in a garbage truck?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Ha well, I hit in a soup, can roll it
all the way to the city dump.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Because I was made for this super baby and I
am the.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Care Uh oh, it's Christmas Eve and we're feeling Steve
welcome to the wicker Man.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
And can we get consent from Steve before he's getting help?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
The lawyer said not to say anything on the matter yet.
My name is Hank Kilgore, joined as always with James
Merry Christmas, Hank, Marry Christmas, James and a j Panzica
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(01:42):
Let me tell you something, guys. It's Christmas Eve, and
I am full of rage. Some can say primal rage.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
My favorite part about this is it's not going to
come out on Christmas Eve?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it is because we celebrate.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
And well, yeah it's true, which is really sad.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
That it could. AJ. You're right, that is said.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I look at this, look at the screenshot. That's nice.
AJ is looking good today. Oh I don't even have
I have no information about this film. Pulled up.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Let me start, I'll start.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You pull it up, you start. I just woke up.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'll tell you this about this movie. This is the
second time I've seen it. I enjoyed it. I actually
liked this movie. I didn't think it was great. I
wouldn't say this is the best movie we've watched, but
I I got some uh some good moments out of
this movie. I thought I have some issues with it,
which we'll discuss, but but I did enjoy it. AJ,

(02:46):
did you share in my sentiments?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Are you talking about mistleton mix up?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
No, that's what that is, one of the greats of
all ties.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know. I love mistletoe mix Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well that's what I watched last night because it's the
Christmas season. Just figured we were doing our gurly jam
and I hated it just as much as this time.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
As I got a stuff pulled up, we watched Primal
James thunders all Right, released November eight, twenty nineteen. Uh oh, yeah,
that's right. It obviously starts Cage as Frank Wash. Yet
Kevin Durand is Loffler you had? Jean Gray is doctor

(03:32):
Ellen Taylor? How do you say? Is it Thumbka? I
don't know how to say your name.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I have no idea. I just kept calling her Jean
Gray and yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
What I kept thinking. Fom k Janssen, which for you
gen zers out there, she played Jean Gray in the
original Fox x Men movies. Yep, she was doctor Lee.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
She was doing something with her hair. It looked like
it could have been Yeah, it did fake under.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
That, I thought this movie kept giving me Speed to
Cruise Control vibes and like she kind of looked like
Sandra Bullock, just except her acting wasn't nearly as fucking
erratic yes as as her and that, but I kept
thinking of that. I think I would have preferred to
be watching Speed to Cruise Control.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I do love Speed to Cruise Control, where they take
all the elements of speed and the thrill of a
bus flying through neighborhoods and they put it in the
ocean and go.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
On extremely slow slower, and the like when like the
people on the jet skis like turn in. They it's
supposed to be hitting them, but they just purposefully drive
into it, into it.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, can we.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Just talking about speed to cruise control?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I'm trying to do it for the podcast, but you'd
already seen it. Yeah, you forgot hank about la Monica Garrett, oh.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Right, Lamaica Garrett John Ringer and of course Christopher from
The Sopranos, Michael Imperial as Freed, who was kind of there.
It was just kind of around.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was pointless. I was actually excited
a little.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
And he was essentially like seven lions, but it was
like throughout the film like he was.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
The whole lines or lions.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
He had seven lines it, yeah, for his for his
rum and coats.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
So I take you to the Lifeless movie.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Hey, I thought it was extremely forgettable. I didn't like
I didn't like hate it or anything. I was forgetting
it as I was watching it. I watched it last
night and I I just feel like it was like
three scenes, like he was in the he was in
the wilderness in Brazil. Then he was just like in
a room drinking on the ship, and then they were

(06:04):
on top they were fighting in the red room, and
then and then it was over.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
But it's like it is a thinker, actually a je
Sorry I keep we haven't heard your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I disagree with Hank. I'm more team James on this one.
I think this had more than two scenes. It was
barely in the jungle at all.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I'm going to prove it to you that this film
only had scenes.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well yeah, I mean it all happens on the boat,
so if you're talking about settings, maybe, but the setup
here is actually kind of interesting, and the execution wasn't
quite there, but there was enough premise for me to

(06:55):
be interested throughout the I think that the best thing
about this movie is that it wasn't just Cage being
like the rowdy, you know, gumption kind of guy that's
kind of rough around the edges and causing problems and

(07:15):
then has to like, you know, solve the problem and
win the lady. But he was put juxtaposed with this
criminal Durant, whoever, who was great. He was really he
was a Yeah, he was maniacal, he was crazy, but
he was also like super tactical. And so now you

(07:40):
have like these two forces on this ship, and you
think Cage is gonna be like the bad force, and
he ends up being the good force. And I kind
of enjoyed it. It was it was a good like struggle
for power on the ship. And then obviously you throw
the animal in there too, and yeah, almost like it

(08:04):
wasn't obviously on this level, but it brought me back
to like his nineties action movies.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Like if it had a much lower budget because he
was I thought he was pretty good in it, you know,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
The storyline, it had elements air and the rock and
face off.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well, anyone who for the listeners, if you haven't seen,
I mean all of Cage is an exotic animal hunter
who worked at ten zuos, who worked at eight zoos
over ten years, but he just couldn't stand the authority
of it all. So he became an exotic animal hunter.
And he has a bunch of these exotic animals on

(08:43):
a cruise ship, or not a cruise ship, on like
just like a big freighter ship, and he's got to
bring him to like San Jose or something to sell
them and make make his living. But on the ship,
there's like a it's like an army ship, right, it's
like the Navy, and they it's just like yeah, yeah,
and but there's a bunch of army people on it

(09:04):
with them because they also have this super hardcore assassin
that they had arrested. It was just Kevin Durant's character,
and they kind of do like a uh, Science of
the Lambs thing where they just have him in this
like box. Yeah for like most of the movie, and
he's all it was pretty badass.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
The way he got out of it. By the way,
there's a crazy storm going. I would say, there's like
a fifty chance I lose power. So if I lose power,
just trustle phone or something. But I I was just
gonna say, I think the way that he got out
of that cage, it was a little silly. How the

(09:44):
doctor was like, if he has a seizure, let me know.
Did was he prone to seizures? Did they set that up?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Well?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
He was sugar that he was on the ship. Yeah,
from the seizures, yes they were. There's something with his
brain and altitude and stuff. So like cage is hitting
down with the head NSA guy and he's like, so
you're gonna tell us why there's like this crazy detained

(10:14):
criminal on the ship And they're like, no, that's classified.
And he's like, that's bullshit. You know, we're on a
fucking ship in the middle of the ocean, dangerous killer.
We deserve to know. And so the guy's like all right,
and he's just every day I guess that guy's classified.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well don't don't you think it would be a little
disqualifying if you were an assassin that you're prone to
seizures like that. What if you're going to kill someone
and you're you're, you know, skulking through their their house
and you're right about to kill him and then you
have a seizure. I would assume that would disc That's
why I was confused.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm gonna I'm gonna flip that on you. I think
it's actually empowering. This guy is prone to seizures, but
he's still gonna be an assassin. He's not gonna let
that stop him from.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Being classic de I am I right?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, direct employment information?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Oh nice.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
So this guy is a professional, and if he were
on an assassin mission, he would prepare himself at the
right altitude given the right time. But right now he's
being detained control over the altitude. So if they took
him on a plane, he would probably die and they
have to bring him back alive. They got to bring

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him on the ship.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Reason why.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Nobody knows, but he's like the court system. They arrest him.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Everything saying made it seem like he's the kind of
guy you would want to kill, so that way he
wouldn't talk about how Christopher was actually a bad guy.
But I don't think he was ever going to actually
like put him through quart or anything.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, he think he was bringing him back alive for
different purposes because that guy was shooting the army guys
behind that. I mean, anytime they had a clear shot
at shooting the criminal, he would come up and shoot
them or shoot cage or whatever, because he was protecting
the asset. And he's like, I don't care if he's

(12:24):
the only one alive, Like he was helping him escape essentially,
and this guy, but.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
For what purpose did he want to keep using him
as an asset?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Is that now this guy was undercover and he was
like toppling a government and then he needed to get
extracted kind of thing. Okay, I don't know, I.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Don't remember any of it.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I just can't this. Yeah, I mean, we should have
get hung up on this. It just didn't. It didn't
make a ton of sense because if my whole mission
was to get him back freed, and he should have
just stayed in that cage for the entire ship ride.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
But whenever he came out of the cage, he was
feeling just fine.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, I know, I know, that's what I'm saying. I so, okay, So.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
He faced a seizure to get out of the cage.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Though.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
He like, I was awesome. He starts doing he.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Starts filaming out of his mouth, then he starts biting
the guy's hand, and he got the guy's gun and
flipped it on him and shut his own head off.
You know, that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That was cool. I like that a lot. And I also,
before we get too deep into the boat lore of it,
I would just like to say that cage sets himself
up as this badass sitting there reading a magazine. I
love that shot. And then he's got this awesome trap
set up to catch this, you know, to catch whatever,

(13:52):
you know, probably he wasn't thinking a white jaguar, but
catch some kind of animal. He's all set up, camped
up there, does not have a dart in his gun.
How does that happen that kissed me off in the
start of the movie.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Maybe the dart you know, before before it started.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
He could have. But then maybe he should have reloaded
because that comes upon him and then he's like scrambling
to get a Maybe he's not.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
As good as he you know, puts the airs on you. Right,
I set all this stuff up, but I forgot the dart.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Maybe that was like his his thing because he had
his dart gun in his hand when the criminal guy
like came up to him the first time. Yeah, like,
why not just dart him?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, okay, so this is again.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
The opportunity to darnam at point blank range.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So he darts a jaguar, that thing massive creature attack
beast goes down, no problem. The white ghost, he darts
the the Loffler man and how to shoot him with
like five darts before he's affected. This man is supernatural.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That's because the man has the soul in it. The
white job has no soul.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Good point.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I think he trained himself with that kind of poison
because they were probably from the same area. And he's like,
what was in that dart? And he tells him and
then he gives him this like crazy look and he's like, oh,
why isn't it working.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I'm trying to remember I do I did like the
existential question of this movie of is man truly the
most dangerous beast?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Some might even say the most dangerous game?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Ah, many would say the most dangerous.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I'm trying to remember what the line was. Uh, it
was pretty good. It was it was towards you when
they're fighting, and yeah, he shoots them all over with
the dart and uh, in the red emergency lights are on.
I like that a lot. I like that. That looked good.
But he said, what did you did you record that one?
By chance?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
No, I have a recorded clip, but it'll.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Come to me. But it was basically he was just like,
you know, the the Kevin Durant is starting to like, uh,
finally succumb and he's just like, I don't I can't
stand this poison and cage just like I can't stand you,
and just smacksim.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
And that's when.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's much better than that. Yeah, I like that I
like that scene, that's all. I like.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I have a theory as to why you checked out
of this movie so fast. Yeah, because he said you
liked like the visual of that scene or whatever, and like, yeah,
I mean this movie wasn't a cinematic masterpiece, right, Ah.
There there were some redeeming qualities to it. But as

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a visual effects artist yourself, first glimp at the white jaguar,
which was was not white at all. It was dismal
and gray like a foggy day in the Pacific Northwest
and just really really not well done at all.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
They may here's a good that's a good point too.
I think you're right well that and uh the point
is when you're doing a when you don't have a
lot of money, but you gotta do a CG creature,
uh like like the white jaguar. Uh and and and
they are and I quote in rainforest, Brazil, as the

(17:45):
movie says just that, and.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
It is like.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
It is the middle of the day, it is bright
as can be, and you have this uh CG jaguar
that he's fighting. Pro tip if you compare that to
later in the movie when they're in the dark, dark,
dark dank ship it's still not great, but it looks
a lot better because you use the darkness to cover it.

(18:17):
But but when you that's what you do when you
have a lot of money, but you need to use cg.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well that's I felt like the monkeys looked better.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so if you're gonna do they
should have just made the scene where he's frying the
jaguar at night and it would have made it look
ten hundred thousand percent better. But instead they do it
and sun directly on that thing.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
And it did well. Did good? Did you like the
green screen shots when they're outside the ship?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
It was really good comp work, Yes, great, they nailed it.
I actually that was one of the reasons I saw that.
I was like, let me, let me. I look at
the budget and it was like eighteen million, and I'm like, okah,
they did a whole a lot of money, and you know,
probably like like like one millions going to Cage. So
it's all right, decent enough thought.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
So, okay, there's a couple of things I want to
talk about with Cage's character, But before we go any further,
I would like to discuss, if I'm allowed the friendship
between Cage and that bird because I would have watched
an entire movie of Cau and that person.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Let me just one moment. Uh yeah, you're allowed, Okay,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I loved Cage and that bird that he had this
like kind of will they won't they be friends with
a little you know, like frenemies buddy cop type.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
And made me think that season of Archer when when
they're they Yeah, they do a whole season where it's
in the like a rainforest kind of area and one
of the characters, the bird that talks, and I was like,
this is just like Archer.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
That is just like Archer. Yeah, but I have a
clip of audio of Cage talking. There was this little
boy on the ship. I guess was he the captain's
son Raffie, Yes, and uh and he's asking about the bird.
And I would like to just play this clip of
audio here because Cage, who I think is like pretty

(20:10):
tame throughout the movie, gives us a nice line here
at the end. So here you go.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh my god, yeah, regular.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Regular. I was like, I don't know where that came
from because he was.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Like classic classic Cage. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I played that first step and she was like, is
he talking? To Elmo in that, but no, he was
talking to a bird, so not Alm. I should have
should have clarified that. But yeah, I just I just
loved that. I love that whole relationship.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I think they had the best relationship in the whole
movie because in the very beginning you have whenever they're
setting that up, he's in the rainforest Brazil and he
has all of the animals with him in the truck
and he's getting ready to leave and one of the
kids there he put he has a taco and a
beer and he puts them on the truck on the

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hood to go talk to one of the guys, and
then the bird. That's when we first see the bird.
It comes down and starts eating his taco and one
of the kids goes, uh, Senior, it's eating your taco.
And he turns you and he goes and he's like,
your friend is doing that or whatever. He's like, that's
not my friend. By the end of it, he really
loves that bird, and like he does, he.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Ends up giving up where the map is is because
Loeffler starts shooting the birds and he doesn't want him
to shoot that one.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
How do you how would you feel if you paid
a driver and you gave him the money, and then
like ten minutes later, the driver said, I don't want
to do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Oh, he gave back the money. It was the money.
It was about the principle of the white devil, the
white devil. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
But then Cage, this is you know, he's a good guy.
He gave the money back. Anyways, Yeah, get your kids
some shoes. Yeah, but did he get shoes. I don't know,
you know, maybe maybe didn't.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I do like that. At the end of the movie,
Cage is still kind of a scumbag because he's like
selling this captured beast.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's not a good man. No he's not,
but he's good enough.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
He still has had a whole change of art. Yeah,
he grew tremendously as that's right.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
He's giving it to Africa or something.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
To some reserves, which that cat is not is not
native to Africa, he's not native.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
The cat should go back to rainforest, like.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
He's gonna he's gonna ruin.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
This ship is halfway around the world just to get
by a different animal because it's territory.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Is crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
But but yeah, I don't know, was he serious or
was he just saying that to pick up doctor Jean Gray.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, so that is another one I liked, is I
don't think they they were more platonic they like I
liked that they didn't.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Till the very end.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, but at the end, it's not like they said, oh,
we're gonna like meet up or something like they had
a bit how is he gonna call her? He's riding
around on cargo ships to and from Brazil and he's
going to Africa with this animal. That animal is not living,
by the way, on a cargo ship to Africa. But anyway,

(23:40):
I I don't think there was much of a she
might give him my card, he's throwing it right in
the ocean.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, I don't think that was one of my big problems.
I was so mad, like it should have just stayed
platonic with platonic the whole time. There was no love story.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well it was probably at the very last minute some
producer was just like, wait, wait, wait, wait, we gotta
we gotta it's the man and a lady. We got
to have something in there.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
But I don't even know. I don't even know if
her giving him the card was like, hey, let's maybe
maybe let's fuck. But like, I don't know if it
was like a hey, let's get together. I think it was.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I think it's just here's my information. I'm in the military.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
If I think they literally can help each other out. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Exactly at the at the very end of the movie,
when they're saying they're goodbyes and everything and the other
military people come in, the military people shake hands because
one of them was talking to Gene Gray and was like,
thank you for your for your help and everything, and
I expected them to salute, but they shake hands, and

(24:43):
I'm like, I don't know if I've ever seen that.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well, I think military people are people too. I think
you put the military ahead of the people.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
And that's their service, James, that's their duty.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know anything about the
military the film.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
And that's a problem that director.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Don't get too vents at. Nick Powell needs to shame.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I don't know about duty with my memorroids and my
sticky poops, and you don't think I know anything about duty.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Another in college, we called James Jimmy the duty growls.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
They did, they did call me Jimmy the duty. Here's
another thing, I'd like to discuss if you'll.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Allow thank now that nauseatting fact is consecrated on Spotify's
they'll allow it.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
This is at least the forty fifth episode where I've
talked about my poops. So I didn't understand why everyone
hated Cage so much? Did you guys understand?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
This is a selfish no, a drunk son of a bitch.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
But why what What did he do on this cargo
ship where everybody.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Was He really didn't do it most he didn't do anything.
He shared his wisky, you know.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And he talks mad shit.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's that's true, but not but like not really.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
But you also would think that, like all these other
people in the ship are like pardoned, you know, like
it's like a guy's is kind of an asshole. They
probably all are, you know, like they can't they can't
handle that.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
They're on a cargo ship. Yeah, the only person that
should have hated him was the captain who has to
do all these trips with him, and the captain loved him. Yeah. Also,
that was ridiculous. Sorry, there was a lot. But if
you get bit by a venomous snake, that is like
there's no cure for and we don't have the anti venom.
You're not lasting days until some helicopter comes and rescues you. Well,

(26:50):
you're not lasting twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
If your resolve is good enough.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I guess that's true. What they say about Vasquez is
that his resolve.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Was I do agree with that. I agree with that
statement because it's not realistic.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
It wasn't realistic, And the rest of this movie mostly
was so.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, is this Did you guys also watch Craven? I
know we all said we're going to do this as
a double feature. No, Craven the Hunter?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Did you actually see it? No?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I looked it up though it came out last week
and there was one show time left in my local theater.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I know. I literally had to on my theater on
my AMC, I had to scroll all the way to
the bottom. Love Actually an Elf Christmas and like fifteen
just uh Spanish movies and Spanish dubs, and then it
was like, oh yeah and Craven the Hunter, big budget

(27:53):
superhero flick.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I hate to see it.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I hate to see it for our boy at TJ.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, but I would have liked to see that crossover.
I would have liked to see the primal crossover. Maybe
that would have elevated it to H to the proper status.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
A J.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Are you are you in bed?

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You always are? I feel like.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
No, he's usually had like a kitchen counter or something,
or in his car and as tart Bucks.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
That a roof, Yeah we're on a roof. Just to
see you in such a domestic area as blowing my mind.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
So I have sorry, go ahead, a J.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I don't think even had any yep, oh.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
All right, I'll go. I had this note. I don't
know if you guys caught this, but there's a scene
where Jeane Gray is supposed to be fake talking to
Mike and Michael imperially and she's Chrystopher Christopher, might I
have to kill you? Christopher?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm gonna write movies, And what.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
A stupid plot line. That was great show. Stupid stupid
plot But in this scene, and this will only work
for you guys and not the podcast listeners, so my apologies,
but she is just there going like this, like she's
not talking, she's just opening and closing her mouth, and
they like they couldn't have had any kind of little

(29:24):
fake conversation going on, right, I don't know. I don't
know if you noticed it, but I see that.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
But it's I can understand that. It's a form of
communication used by high ranking officials.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yes, open and close their mouths like exactly.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
It keeps the enemies from from understanding them.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I didn't notice that either, But your impression looks a
lot like Billy the big mouth bass. Yeah, nobody, nobody questions.
You know, his lexicons. So you being so scrutinizing.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
No, you're right, you're right. I'm sorry, I forgot she.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Was was just like, Wow, it's talking fish. This is believable.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
What is that like? Is that what the critics say
about her performance? Like fum c looks like a big
mouth Billy pas.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Mouth Canson is what I think they called her. In
the review, Roder said.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Wow, Roger, this film is he dead?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, it's dead.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
He is?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Now, did you guys like Scudy the man who who
just kept saying god, damn, goddamn ship, goddamn with the.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Goddamn that's the same, you know, that's yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
How about the very very end of the movie when
they're trying to like repair the ship with the coastguard
and he's like, he's like, yell at these guys.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
He's like, why don't you be careful there's fucking diesel
fuel linking all over everything while he's smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Oh, he was so awesome.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
In the guards in this movie.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
There were one, but from he was he was they
were not passing it around. Well, this wasn't a free
COVID world cigar elliot budget for one sloppy wet cigar.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Wait back to the engine room guy. I think my
favorite scene in the whole movie was with him and Jerome.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Jerome was awesome. Would just pop up and not talk.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
He was like the chef.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Oh, he's the black fella in the engine room.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
It was the mechanic with or something.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
He had no lines, voice actor like he really couldn't
read a line. Look and then go back in the shadows.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
He yeah, he had no self will right, He like
he would just do whatever engine man told him to do.
And like, now the fucking Loffler guy has been on
the ship loose for like a day. He's killed all
of these special.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Ops guys, all of them, all of the trade military
dudes are long dead, and they're like, we got to
stop this guy.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
And so now it's just like these civilian guys that
are like, Hey, we're going to hatch this crazy plan.
I'm going to cut the breakers on the power so
that he knows we're fucking with him, and we're gonna
lure him right into our trap. I'm going to be
standing by the breakers and we're gonna have a conversation
and he's gonna be totally unassuming about what's going on.

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He's gonna tell me to put the power back on,
and as soon as he gets all riled up, Jerome
is gonna jump down from the balcony, bash him on
the head with the wrench and fight him to the death.
And like they get into it, Loeffler doesn't go down.

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So now him and Jerome are in a fistfight, and
poor Jerome fighting this world class assassin edding his fucking ass,
and the plan is working. He disarms Laffler and the
machine gun goes skittering me across the floor to the
engine man guy, and the engine man guy is gonna

(33:49):
pick up the gun and shoot Laffler in the back
to save his friend, but instead he starts crawling away. Finser, right,
you can take him to.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
God.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
So aj, what the scene I thought you were going
to bring up was when there's this dangerous criminal on
the loose that everybody on the ship knows, and the
engine man the Loaffler comes up and just talking to
him and asking him these questions like what are you
pretty man? Whoever pretty man was? And he's and and

(34:34):
Loffler gets all of this information out of him, like yeah,
the engine's here, and he keeps going why do you
need to know that? Why do you need to know that,
pretty man? And then Loffler scampers away and everyone else
shows up and they're like, have you seen Loffler? He's like, no,
I was just talking a pretty man. That guy is
the best. He's got the two best scenes in the movie.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'm pretty sure he didn't say pretty man. I'm pretty
sure it was Freeman, and that the last name of
the guy that he no, no.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
No, no, I just confirmed on.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Really Ray Hernandez. And then it says pretty man as Ray.
So this whole lot going on there. Someone explained to
me what what was happening when when uh they're having
the standoff with Michael Imperiali and uh they end up

(35:29):
shooting him and then they but they get Loftler, they
shoot him with the crossbow, and and Jean Gray like,
who's who's a hostage of him? Why didn't she just
because she pulls the thing out of she pulls the
arrow out of his back. Why did she not just
kill him?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I think because he had a gun what.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I did, because she was behind him at that point though,
so the guns He's like, he's like, you can pull
this arrow out of my back? Behind me, like fucking
stab him.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
She was also she got away, so she was held
hostage and then she says, all right, shoot and gets
away and kid shoots the arrow and then Loffler is
just shooting at these people, and there's like five stairs
she needs to run up to get out of that room,
and instead she just stands right next to yeah, and

(36:21):
then to your point, just then pulls that.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
I think she had Stockholm syndrome, but very quickly.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I was.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I think she was in love with him the first
time she laid eyes on him, and the date.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
How could you knock mea teth?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
What you do is you pull that that arrow out
and then you just shove it right back in.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
There was like about a million things she could have done,
and she did the one thing she should have done.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Though, like hippocratic oath, I feel sworn to even even
if a man has a machine gun to your chin.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, the world's longest scene was when she was tied
up with Little Raffi and Loffler. Instead of killing them
or putting the snake directly under their feet, puts it
like twenty feet away. Yeah, and then you're what You
watch Cage in the longest fight known to man killing

(37:25):
Laffler and then it back to Raffy and Jean Gray
and the snake's moved about it's like and then all
Cage does when he comes in as he just picks
it up throws it in the bag. No problem.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I wanted to see the snake like turn and just
go somewhere else like it. Why would it notice just
go to the people.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Well, so, the other thing I didn't understand was they
had Loffler and Cage have this like and what is
this Cage is named Frank Walsh have this fight at Also,
Walsh just made me think of Ocean's eleven the whole time.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
And yes, or some money, it made me think of
Professor Walsh at TCU.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Ah, Yeah, that's right. But yeah, so uh, they they
have this fight and then Cage gets Loffler in this
you know trap and he's hanging upside down, and then
he just walks over to a door and opens it,
like did he know the jaguar was just there? He

(38:31):
had had it trapped, and then he basically let it
go again.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I think, so he's a master.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well that was stupid because then he had already.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
He had already spent a ship a ton of time
recapturing a lot of his animals, and he had recaptured
the jaguar into that closet.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yes, so why I get that you want this like
badass kill, but now you've let the jaguar back loose.
That seems like the antitheses.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Only only in that room. When you come back in,
it's not going to be hungry anymore, because you're going
to eat eaten man.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
That's true, because that's what because for generations the rainforest
Brazil was feeding it hundreds of human sacrifices, and all
it knows is to eat man.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
That was crazy too, write like it wasn't a man eater,
because like people would go into the jungle looking for
food and they'd get killed by this bloodthirsty man eating jaguar.
It was a man eater because they sacrifice their own people.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yes, yeah, it's like a paradox essentially.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Oh my god, now we got to keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, god damn it. Why did we do this?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
And and ideally that had been going on for centuries, yes,
like the ancient times, and it's just been this one
immortal jaguar.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yes, that's that was Yeah the assumption I made as well. Now,
but don't worry, Cage is bringing it to Africa.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yes, yes, now it will eat the men of Africa. Yeah, crazy,
it will eat an elephant or a rhinoceros MM primal
to cruise control.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I actually wish there was a primal too, I could
use I second aj from earlier.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I wish the more I think of this film, I
wish it was like made in the nineties during the
con air the rock Face, because even the cast, like
the cast is all there, like you could you could
have made it, maybe maybe replaced a couple of people
here and there. But like if they had the budget,
if maybe they had a bigger, more experience at the

(40:57):
time filmmaker, you know, like behind it, it could have
been a really cool nineties action film.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Because I won't say this though, I think, like, I
don't know that I needed this to be like some
bigger action you know, I like, I love Anaconda, one
of my favorites. I didn't need this to be that. Like,
I kind of liked what this was.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I like making a new content with Jack Black and
Paul Rudd. Yeah, so that's gonna be terrible already for that. Yeah,
I'm sure he'll he'll.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Be playing he's gonna get Yeah, he's gonna get eaten.
And you're gonna see his little bodies. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, he's just like water or the other and there
has a little bereat Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, But yeah, I don't know. I didn't need it
to be that. I like, I liked what it was.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Well, Merry Christmas, Hey Christmas. I think maybe if it
was in the nineties too, not that there isn't visual
effects then, but maybe they would have used a real Jaguarre.
Maybe they would have away, or they would have just
painted a dog.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, they could probably would have. It might have looked better. Honestly,
this movie, the script was first option in nineteen ninety five,
took twenty two years for it again, so there you
go kind of onto something.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Hey, there you go. Okay, okay, let's call Michael Imperioli
and get to the bottom. He looked old in this movie, like, like,
first of he did look old, and to be fair,
like I did a rewatch of the soprano, I mean
like a year ago, but like that's so, I was
thinking of him as Christopher, but like he looked like
he aged a lot or they just for some reason
made him look older. But I think, yeah, I don't know,

(42:48):
he did look older.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I saw him in a play this year in New
York and he looked basically the same. Yeah. I think
he's just aged. I think it just happens over time. Yeah,
we'll all look like that by we finish this podcast.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Hey hey yeah yeah, okay, Well, anyone else have any
discussion points or should we uh notes really quick? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
No, oh I did have a note that his chest
hair looks nice. Cage's chest hair looked nice. It was white,
that it.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Was always white but full.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah yeah, so that was nice.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah. Yeah, well it represents the animals that he is capturing.
Mm hmmm, white and full, yes, like the jaguar. Or
is the British say jaguar, well, James Will, were any
any goose?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
No ghouls? But there are some goofsen gas if you'd
like me to run this one actually shockingly has a
lot of goofs and gas, and of course I'm not
going to read all of them, but this is my
favorite segment so because because the last few have had
like two, Like we watched some of the most goof

(44:12):
filled movies and it's had like two goofs are gaps.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
To be fair, I do think prim w. I think
more people have seen Prime Will than probably the last well.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I think that's what I'm surprised us is that, yeah,
maybe maybe more people have seen it. So all right,
so first one, this is a continuity thing. When Frank
is driving out of the jungle. And remember we always
rate these as helpful or not helpful, so keep those
in mind. When Frank is driving out of the jungle,
his truck plate is splattered with mud in the long

(44:42):
shots but clean in the close ups.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Oh lord, let's roll, come on. Not helpful, everybody knows
he's got a license plate. Wins your wife bird.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
This is, by far age is least favorite thing that
would do shit. Hold on, could you.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Imagine a little tiny lady.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, because he's driving through rainforest Brazil. I don't know
what happened, but IMDb sent me to something to like
prove I'm a real person.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Okay, click here to win three hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
And a bride. All right, factual factual errors. I just
like how this one's great and I found this helpful.
I hope you guys do as well. Officials would not
be reading a prisoner there, Miranda rights after they are
placed in custody and in a cage, even a Nicholas cage.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Whoever wrote that they were like, let's have some fun.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, that's awesome, all right, incorrectly regarded as goofs. We
won't touch those. Another good continuity here, aj you'll you'll
actually like this one. Early in the film, Frank is
talking to Raffie near his animals. Frank's beard is clearly
heavy grown in. In the very next scene, Frank is
seen having drinks with members of the ship's crew. Well,
the beard is not gone, it is now much less

(46:07):
grown in. In the following scene, which is set just
moments after Frank's round of drinks, he encounters doctor Taylor.
His beard is now fully grown in.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Again, when you're drinking whiskey, it makes men's beard grow.
Everyone knows that.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I think that's I think that's true and helpful.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I don't I think whoever thinks that they're so fucking
important that they need to scrutinize these movies and tell
the world about these mont Nuty errors. Yep, Like I don't.
I don't know. Is being buried alive even like good

(46:46):
enough punishment for a person that's stupid?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, I got one thing.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
It's one thing if if you know, a guy is
wearing like a blue shirt and immediately in the next
like take now he has like a sweater on that's
like red, that's a problem. But if it's like, oh,
his beard stubble is a little bit more, Oh the
license plate on the car, that's that is five by
five pixels on your screen. That looks a little long.

(47:18):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
It's it's not the like the noticing of that that
bothers me, because honestly, noticing it would be a little
bother something you like, you know, like all right, well
they weren't really paying attention and done right whatever, But
the fucking like nerve you gotta have to share the
whole world or fucking Discovery to make you feel like

(47:44):
you're being so goddamn helpful. Yep, just like take them
out back and put them out of their misery.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
I yeah, that's why I do this segment because I
think they need a little shit. I think the world
needs to see what a fuck the world is. All right,
this is Airson Geography ag. I know you'll like this.
As a geography man, I'm sparing you one that is
literally three paragraphs.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Your geography itself is a geograph mantography champion of my
high school.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I know you were. That's what I mean. You're a
geography man. During the scene showing the ship leaving Brazil,
the captain says one nine ninety three nautical miles from
Puerto Rico. In fact, behind the ship is the doc
area of Old San Juan, Puerto Rico. This was filmed
in Puerto Rico, so they weren't there were zero nautical

(48:43):
miles away.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
This movie is a fraud.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Pretty helpful. I mean for someone to look at that
and know.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
That all geo geological screwup that is just movie place.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
It's it's insane that they changed it to helpful and
not helpful. Like interested and not interested or industry not whatever.
It made so much more sense.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Because that could be described as helpful. Yeah, that's just like, yeah,
they film it's a movie. They got to film it somewhere.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
So twenty five people found this one helpful. One person
found this not helpful. This is character. Jaguars have an
incredibly acute sense of smell. It is very unlikely that
an experience hunter like Frank Walsh would smoke a cigar
while waiting in a blind for one to appear. That's
not helpful because he would look badass doing it. So
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
That's the kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
That's like, best thing I've heard so far.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I hate it. I hate it. It's looking for like
realism in a fucking movie like this.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
That's the most that's the closest too helpful goof i've
heard so far. Oh that's like that's the director saying like, yeah,
you can do this action in a scenario where you
would ever never do.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
That because it looks cool.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
You know, it doesn't look cool not securing your tree stand,
loading your dart, having the moment of your life and
almost falling out of your tree stand four times, and
then actually falling out of your tree stand forty feet
and not having a scratch on. Mm hmm, all right,
we're gonna end stabbing a jaguar with a dart with

(50:29):
your hand instead of with your gug.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
That's pretty cool. I don't know, that's pretty badass.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
All right, We're gonna end with this one. It's a
little bit long, and they kind of at the end
say why it's not a goof, but we're give them
a little shine. Nine people found this helpful too. Not helpful.
The marshals try to justify transporting the prisoner by ship
instead of a plane, saying the prisoner has a brain
mouth formation that can cause a rupture at high altitude,

(50:55):
hence the need to go by boat. However, all modern
commercial airplanes maintain in a cabin pressure at twelve to
thirteen psi, which is the equivalent of the mountainous regions.
The marshals claim the prisoner had been hiding. Now this
was mentioned in the movie, and the explanation is the
need to be extra careful, not take chances, and monitor
him frequently. This is not a good.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Well then what are you pointing out?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
What that's circul fact? This person is wrong anyway, because
even though the altitude at pressure is similar to the
mountains he came from, they clearly stated in the movie,
it's the amount of time of going from sea level
to the mountain pressure that is problematic. So if you

(51:45):
do that in twenty seconds rather than twenty days, it's
different on your body.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
We need a new show.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
We need a new show where we reach out to
these people and have aj tell them why they're wrong.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
No, no, we need a news show. Okay, I'll do that.
While I'm burying them alive, I get to tell them
why they're wrong. While I'm digging.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
What a movie? What a movie? That's it on the
groups of gaps?

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Thank you for going on that to start, we gotta
start rapping because I'm gonna have to head out.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Well, let's move into a little segment I like to
call final thoughts and Christmas Eve ratings. All Right, Jimmy
the duty cringe?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
What is?

Speaker 1 (52:43):
What's?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
What are you reading?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
So my first final thought is when we started this podcast,
I there was ninety one Cage movies out, and so
we've got one more on the original list, and then
I'm gonna have to go and add the rest of it.
So that's that's kind of nice. I liked this movie.
I did not love this movie. I thought it was good.

(53:07):
I would definitely rewatch it. I won't be rushing to
rewatch it, but I thought it was good. It was like,
you know, if this was ever on, yes or like
TNT or like that would make sense to me just
flipping around, Oh, primals on.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Like a nineties Actually yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Exactly exactly. So yeah, I'd say, I'd say, go watch
this and have yourself a merry little Christmas. I'm going
to give the sixty three cages out of one hundred.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Okay, uh and gliplop papakhs.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
What uh?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
What are your what are your final thoughts in a rating?

Speaker 3 (53:44):
When when you said primal.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
It uh?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Before I get into my final thoughts, when you said Primal,
I thought of Amazon Prime M which was how I
watched this. Interesting. It was free, it was included in
my Amazon Primal subscription. Wow, and yet they still made
me watch ads. What the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I've been talking about this for a week.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
That's what they're doing. That's what they're doing now.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah, oh my god. I started They started off.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
By saying like why am I to get you limited
interruptions and then they give you like six ads in
a row.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I had. Yeah, so all ads are at the beginning,
so at least there's that. Yeah that was terrible, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
But still yeah. I mean that's the reason that you
pay for a service is to not have anyway. Okay,
Prime holl.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Nothing to do with the movie.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, no, this this movie, it's all right. I'm kind
of with James. I'd watch it again. It wasn't atrocious,
it was it had fun moments, It kept me decently entertained.
There was definitely some aggravations, and I'm gonna give it

(54:57):
a fifty road.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
I you would have been higher than that. Interesting. You
know what if this had been like episode six, you
would have given us a ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Cage wasn't It wasn't my favorite Cage performance, and I
think he had room for creativity where like he just
kind of was like, yeah, I'm just this angry character
or whatever. But like his counter lead, I would played
a crazy person really well. And I think Cage could

(55:33):
have gone a little more Vampire's Kiss, but he didn't
in a movie where he had the freedom to. But
you know, you're right.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
That's just think my car, my car.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
See action Jackson too, That's right, action Jackson. She says,
I thought i'd get a standing ovation, and he says,
you're getting one down. So he's talking about it.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Primal.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah, I I don't know. I wasn't into it last night.
I just I watched. I just sat there and watched it.
I just it wasn't hitting me the whole at all.
Maybe maybe if I happened to see it again in
the hole, wasn't It wasn't hitting me in the hole,
in the hole at all, James in the hole. It
hit aj in the hole, but it didn't hit me
in the hole. And but if I watch it again

(56:41):
a second time, perhaps after having this discussion, maybe I'll
enjoy it more.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I didn't hate it or anything like that either. The
actors did a great job at carrying It's like if
the actors were bad in this, you know, like the
guy that played Loffler and the cage didn't really get
it all, then I think we a would have.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
It would have been terrible.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
But because they were surprisingly in Geen Gray like everyone,
because they were surprisingly on it, I was like Okay.
I think I just would have preferred to see a
better version of this from the filmmaking standpoint, because the actors,
they showed up, But I found it kind of forgettable.
I'm also giving it a fifty out of one hundred cages. Yeah,
I didn't find it a preagous or anything. So yeah,

(57:24):
that's what is that? What is that?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Sixty three fifty and fifty sixty three?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Fifty to fifty brings it to shit? I was just
on it. Fifty four cages out of one hundred. If
you'll stand by real quick, I will tell you that
that is our It's tied with two other movies for
our fifty first ranked movie. It's tied with Amos and

(57:50):
Andrew and Astro Boy. Now Amos and Andrew again, a
movie that AJ said, Yeah, like, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
I still love them.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Eighty nine eighty nine any Day, Oh yeah we had
Yeah that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Now, just years ago, you guys were still wrapped up
in cancel culture and you can't laugh that funny ship
I was.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I just wasn't funny. It just wasn't.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Just a terrible movie.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, I would have if I think that movie would
have been like, if there was black face of that movie,
I might have like it had nothing to do with that.
It would had everything to do with the fact that.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
It wasn't there. There didn't that isn't that one stupid
cop black face? I guess he did do He was like, oh, Sage,
I didn't think they'd be able to see me in
the dock.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, no, you're right, So all right, yeah they did blackface.
I still didn't.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I gotta tell you, I don't remember astro boy at all. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
I remember his little swoop air.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, yeah, I remember the way it looks otherwise nothing, yep. Okay,
well that's primal. And I believe this was sweater ninetieth
episode amazing whoa And so.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
You gotta be over one hundred episodes, I think, yeah, yeah,
ninetieth cage movie.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
The next one is gonna be non cage as we
as we do, AJ gets to pick, and before AJ
tells us what his pick is, he did Texas last
night asking if we had access to DVD plays.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, he's gonna send us his poor movie. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah, are you going to be sending us this this tape?
Or do I need to seek it out?

Speaker 3 (59:30):
No.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Also, I would like to say his first two movies,
Legend of grimas I Island, he gave a zero, and
then Moose the Movie, we gave a combined forty three.
So he's not had the best run.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Yeah, all right, AJ what thank you for prefacing that, James.
I don't expect any of our loyal listeners to think
that I am the kind of movie buff that my
co stars.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
You know that you hate.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
No, I gave your movie zero.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
I'm trying to pick a movie you guys haven't seen before.
Is an impossible task, absolutely impossible task. So I'm not
sending you my porn. I am sending you a DVD.
It's in the mail and should arrive in seven to

(01:00:27):
ten business days. That's why I needed your addresses the
other time. And uh here, let me read a little
synopsis for you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Okay, God Christ. The shitty thing is that Cage has
either one hundred and twenty or just about like age
is going to get one more movie in before we're
done with this. Oh yeah, yeah, our last up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
It's going to be a special the McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I thought you didn't. I thought you didn't want to
see the A special all right, you ready for this? Yes,
A beautiful woman and her boo escaped to the solitude
of a tropical island.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Oh, I've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
This, No you haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
You made me watch this Tanya's Island.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
That's his sights and his pause on the lovely Tanya's attention.
A bizarre battle for the woman's love and God the
three desperate island dwellers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Wait, didn't you try to do this as your movie
like the time, but we didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Yes, it's like a woman having sex with an ape.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Well, I haven't seen it, and I can't wait, James.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
James, I guess I didn't. I didn't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
You have not seen this movie. What you have seen
is the trailer on YouTube, which is pretty much the
whole movie. Yes, Like it's like a ten minute trailer
or something for an hour like narrated. What's it called
the island?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
The first review is a beautiful but weak look inside
a woman kind of into that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I think. I think because the trailer is so bad
and so like overly descriptive and way too long, it
makes you think like, wow, we just saw the whole movie. Yeah, exactly,
like but then like there's still a whole movie so
I'm really hoping that it's just absolutely spectac Wa have

(01:02:47):
you not seen it either? I have not seen it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Perfect, perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
I'm not gonna watch the trailer or anything. I'm gonna
wait for my DVD copy to arrive, and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah, then I see right here seven it's thirteen minutes long. God,
it's also all right, and then hey, I'm glad you
haven't seen it either.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
So oh my gosh, I might trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
I might be a single man after Hey, you know
what if Steph walks in, I'll be watching this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Movie twenty two minutes. Count me in.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
You gotta make it, make it date night and just
watch her with her Yeah, really special moment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, I kind of want to spice up our relationship.
You want to real love fuck this woman beautifully? But
weekly on an Island? Yeah, all right, all right Tany's Island,
next episode.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
All right, well, I guess we want we won't at
least be doing it for seven to ten business days. Yeah,
but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, at least I don't have to watch this over
Christmas break.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Yeah. I had to get uh they didn't have like
copious Amazon. I had to get it like like uh
used But like new from different distributors.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Guy, it's gonna have over it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
No, it's like new, it's like new, other than other
than the Come, It's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
It's gonna be the stickiest TVD case ever. Can we
got a box cutter to open it up?

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I think I think Hanks is coming on January third,
and James is coming on January eighth, so uh, stand
by y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
All right, I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I'm gonna have some. I'm gonna have some.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Yeah, we're already having a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I think we don't need to watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
We needed we needed a real like just step away,
just no nonsense, good time podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I'm confused because there's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
So an island making.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
It's an hour and twenty two minutes long, right, I'm YouTube.
There is Tanya's Island full movie, but it's only an hour.
Do you think there's twenty two minutes of sex scenes
that they cut out to put on YouTube?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
One can only hope, one can truly imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
I can't wait. I can't wait for this, can't wait
for my thumb DVD.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Well until James's Come DVD comes in. Thank you very
much for listening, everybody, Merry Christmas and happy hours and
uh that's primal, folks. We'll catch you, we'll catch you
on the next one. Bye bye go