November 10, 2025 • 50 mins
MUFON PA - John J. Ventre, is the current MUFON State Director and a member of the Board of Directors. He is a MUFON Benefactor and holds a lifetime membership in the organization. He is known for his thoroughness in research projects and in field investigations. Prior to his retirement, he served his employer as Director of Security and Public Affairs and he has applied those skills to his role in MUFON. Ventre points out that Westmoreland County in Pennsylvania has had the most UFO sightings in the United States over the past 50 years. During the past five years, Bucks County has had the most UFO sightings in the United States. - www.mufonpa.com
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moufon sixth Annual UFO Conference that's going to be held
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on two dates in Pennsylvania in Philly Friday to Sunday,
October fourth to sixth, and in Pittsburgh on Saturday, November two,
twenty thirteen. Now for your information, John is the retired
Pennsylvania State Security and Public Affairs director for UPS, and
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he was his company's liaison to the local congressman. John
used to also head up his company's crisis management team
for three states. John is the state director for Pennsylvania
for the Mutual u UFHOE Network and on Moufon's board.
He is the author of the novel twelve twenty one
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twenty twelve a Prophecy, as well as The Day After
twenty twenty twelve plus UFOs over Pennsylvania and also Epiphys
twenty twenty nine. It was John's research into the end
time prophecy and cultures that got him interested in UFOs
in nineteen ninety six. Many cultures spoke of star people
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or people from the sky. Joining me now from his
home in Pennsylvania is John Ventry. And John, Welcome to
the X Zone.
Speaker 9 (04:38):
Thanks for having me on. Rep.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
John, You've got quite a calendar of events coming up.
We've got events happening in Philadelphia in October as well
as November, and then going into twenty fourteen, you've also
had dates of events happening in Erie on April the
twenty sixth, and then you'll be hosting the Muffon Symposium
in Philadelphia from July eighteen to the twentieth and twenty fourteen.
(05:02):
My goodness, busy days for Mofon PA.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
Yeah. I mean that's four conferences really within an eleven
month period that we'll be putting on. But you know,
I think it's the one thing I really enjoy the
most in this whole UFO field is to put these
conferences on, get the biggest names in the field and
you know, meet them, talk to them, and also speak
at the conferences. So we've got four of the best
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conferences around and you know, we get a lot of
Canadian people coming down to our conferences.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
Well, you know what, Pennsylvania's is a beautiful state. We've
gone through Pennsylvania many times, but I have to ask you,
are there a lot of UFO sightings throughout Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Oh? Yeah, Pennsylvania ranks either number three, usually three or
four in the country, And it's funny the rankings kind
of go by population. California's number one Texas is number two,
and then Pennsylvania, Florida. Sometimes Michigan pops up, you know,
either three or four. But we get about six cases
(06:08):
a week. It's almost as though the EPs take Sundays off.
We get cases Monday through Friday Saturday. But we actually
average about three hundred cases a year here in Pennsylvania.
And I have twenty eight investigators and I think one
of the best teams out there.
Speaker 8 (06:27):
Mouf on All right, stand by John, You and I
have to take a two minute commercial break. Great having
you with us excell nation. John Ventrey is our special guest.
He is with mofon PA. Their website is www dot
MOFONPA dot com and you can visit John's website at
Johnventry dot com. That's v E n t R dot com,
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John Ventry dot com. And John and I will be
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To the moon?
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And why weren't there any stars?
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Why?
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Explanation? Our guest this hour is John Ventry www dot
mofon pa dot com and his website is John vent
Free dot com. John, what was it that made you
decide to investigate UFOs and sub subsequently become the state
director of Pennsylvania for mofon.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
You know, it's interesting when I talked to other moufon
people and state directors. They were all big UFO fans
as kids. They you know, read magazines. They were into
UFOs and science and I wasn't. As a kid. I
was into horror movies, comic cons, comic books, famous monsters
(10:33):
of film Land. But what happened was in ninety six
UPS put me on an eighteen month assignment traveling around
the country and I was getting really bored. I'm not
a drinker, and I wanted to write a sci fi book.
So I started writing a book on twenty twelve. It
was a science fiction story with all my ideas because
(10:55):
I'm pretty creative. And the thing that happened, though, was
as I started looking up these cultures, the Mayans, the Hopies,
you know, the Romans, they were all talking about flying shields,
people from the sky, and I said to myself, you know,
I need to look into UFOs. At that point, I
was forty thirty nine years old. I had no interest
(11:17):
in UFOs until I started writing this sci fi book.
And then in ninety eight, at forty one, I joined
mufon and you know, just worked my way up. And
I tell you, the more I looked, the more I found.
That's what I find astonishing about this whole UFO field is.
There are so many documents, so many witnesses, photos, et cetera.
(11:42):
The more you look, the more you find. But yet
mainstream media will not cover this as real news.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Have you yourself seen a UFO?
Speaker 9 (11:53):
No, actually, I thought I did. It was June twenty
eighth of two thousand and eight. At ten. I opened
my front door. I went out. I had two Dobuman pinches.
I let them both out. They were pretty well behaved.
All of a sudden, something flies across the sky, going
really fast and bright. It was reflecting the moonlight. The
(12:16):
moon was in the western sky, this was high in
the northeast. I thought I saw a UFO. I went
back into the house. I told my girlfriend, you're not
going to believe what I just saw. So I did
what our investigators are trained to do. I got online.
I started checking the websites for the space stations, you know, satellites, asteroids, meteors.
(12:37):
And there was an asteroid at ten twenty pm that
flew across the sky over Greensburg, Pennsylvania. And that's what
I saw. So, you know, in one sense, I did
what the investigators do and proved that it wasn't a
UFO by using science. But no, I've never seen a UFO.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
All right, no, you said that, Move on, pa gets
I guess six reports a week of UFO sightings. Now,
out of those six, how many turn out to be
real UFOs and not explainable?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (13:16):
I would say about ten percent. And you know what
I really tell most people and ask that question, about
eighty percent of them are explainable if you've got the
time to do the research into the websites and everything else.
About eighty percent are misidentified, they're explainable. You get about
ten percent, I'd say about ten percent that a hoax
(13:37):
is where people are faking them or they're just making
up the story. And then you get to the last
ten percent, which for us would be you know, two
or three cases a month where this is a real UFO.
We've done the work, and you know, either the person's
story is so believable, or we've done the work like
(13:58):
we did in a couple of those cases that ended
up on TV shows where we had we had some
trace evidence.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
What kind of trace evidence did you have?
Speaker 9 (14:07):
Yeah, I'll tell you what happened in two thousand and eight.
Most people who you know in this field would say,
if you throw out the year two thousand and eight,
people are going to say, oh, Stephensville January two thousand
and eight. Well, the year started with Stevensville, but it
really ended in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, with a wave of
(14:28):
UFOs really across Pennsylvania, but centered in Bucks County. We
were getting at that time about only about ninety cases
a year, and all of a sudden, from the middle
of the year for about a four month period, we
got two hundred cases in that four month period. So
(14:49):
what happened was the biggest cases we had were overn
Bucks County. Two cases in particular, the one case the
witness Denise Murder m u r E or Merchant. On
a couple of occasions, I think there was a total
of four. Her dog starts barking at three four in
the morning. She goes outside. She sees this triangular craft
(15:11):
with three lights on it. Now, on one occasion, the
craft drops these metallic sprinkles into her yard into a tree,
and she thought they were probe. She didn't know what
it was, and then it kind of just sucked them
back up like a magnet wood. So what we did
it was really bob garden and my investigator in the area.
(15:32):
He took samples from that tree, other trees in the yard,
trees around the corner. We sent them to two labs.
And what happened was the tree that she said something happened.
That tree had high levels of boron on the leaves.
So and it wasn't on any of the tree in
her yard or in the neighborhood. So I went looking
(15:55):
what is boron used for? Well, boron is used in
nuclear reactors, used in paints to paint the inside of
the reactors. But boron is used in stealth aircrafts because
boron does not reflect radar. So it was interesting what
is boron doing on her tree? You know? I asked
the niece, I said, do you have boron in your
(16:16):
spice rack? She just looked at me. She hadnoyed play,
but I mean she didn't put sprinkle boron onto that tree.
So we ended up with trace evidence.
Speaker 12 (16:24):
There.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
There was eight witnesses. Uh, it's that that particular case
has been on three TV shows. Uh Ufo Hunters. When
I did that one with Bill Burns, he got a
he got a police sergeant and a sketch artist to
interview the eight people separately, and all of them drew
a similar craft and sighting, and so that was a
(16:48):
good case. You had multiple witnesses, you had trace evidence.
And you know, the interesting thing is Denise called me
recently and told me that the landlord cut that tree down.
She he said that the leaves were growing back a
little strange because he had trimmed it back a lot
and now he cut it down. But then we also
(17:08):
ended up on the Anderson Cooper Show with that case
last year, her and I and Joe Nichols as a skeptic.
But there was a second case in Bucks County and
Doylestown that was just as good. We did a UFO,
the UFOs of Earth on Discovery Channel with that one.
We have this guy living in this three million dollar home,
(17:31):
a retired contractor. He sees this large cloud again. His
dog barks. He wakes up at three in the morning,
he sees this huge cloud approaching the house and as
he's looking at it, it's a six sided UFO that's
moving only about twenty miles an hour. He said, there's
no way it should have even stayed up in the air.
(17:53):
And it happened again a month later, and he grabs
his wife and they go outside and there's a heat
lightning stamp. As the lightning's going off, he can now
see the craft and he can see between the seams
where six triangular UFOs are docked together. So this craft
then veers off to the northeast and leaves. So again
(18:16):
Bob Gardner and I we contact the Philadelphia Airport. They
invite him up to the tower and they tell him, Yeah,
at four in the morning, four twenty in the morning,
we had a large object with no transponder come on
the screen over Doylestown and then veer off to the northeast.
That matched up exactly with the sighting that Cliff told us.
(18:40):
Now about getting the radar from them.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Okay, hold on here, hold on here, hold on here,
Slow down, Okay, when it comes to the first sighting
this gentleman had at three o'clock in the morning, how
do you see a cloud at night?
Speaker 9 (18:56):
Well, it was a clear sky and he said he
just looked at he was looking out his window and
he said he sawt this large dark object approaching in
the sky. So you know, I mean, that's that's the
description that he gave.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Okay, Now, getting back to the the the tower the
air traffic control was this the civilian air traffic control center.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
It's the tower at the Philadelphia Airport.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Now, when the object that did not have a transponder,
it was it was obviously on radar because the guys
in the tower said that they tracked it. What did
the military say.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Well, we tried to attack the military base that's right there,
and they would not give us an interview. So so
what happened was we the FAA told us there was
no records. They told us there was no records. So
I ended up getting the protocol for the storage of records,
and it turns out they do have discs there. So
(20:01):
the woman up in the tower sends me to discs.
So I sent it off to one of our experts
and he finds, uh, you know, the paints, the paint
on you know, on the screens. Eight of the screen
showed objects that had no transponders. So I replied back
to her and she was surprised and said to me,
(20:22):
she was surprised that we found anything on those discs,
which I thought was a very strange answer. If you
gave me the disc why would you be surprised. I
pulled anything off of them.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Now, is it possible. Is it possible that what you
actually have target paintings of our military aircraft?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
It could be. I mean, there are things that don't
have transponders, like balloons, crop dusters, which really wouldn't be
in that area, and it could be if military craft
doesn't have a transponder. Let's say, there are other things
that it could be. But the point with all of
that was they were telling me there were no records
to be checked. It was beyond the record retention time.
(21:05):
But then I was able to get the records. So, uh,
you know, there's a there's a little how do you
know that?
Speaker 8 (21:12):
How do you know that the records you have are
the actual records of the date and time that you
were requesting?
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Well, it was the disc was dated, and after it
was all said and done, they sent me the wrong discs.
They were from it. They were off by one day
because it was four in the morning. They sent me
to disc from the day before, and they sent me
a disc from two days later. So I never actually
got what I was looking for from them.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
All right, John, stand by you and I have to
take our news break. At the bottom of the hour
ex oonation. John Ventry is our guest www dot move
on pa dot com and his website is Johnventry dot com.
When we come back, more about UFO's MoveOn and Anderson
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Speaker 8 (27:36):
Welcome back to the excell On everyone. John Ventry's our
very special guest this hour. John is the state director
of Pennsylvania for Mouffon. That's the Mutual UFO Network, an
organization that is dedicated to the reporting of UFOs. They
have a They've got investigators that actually go out and
(27:58):
investigate these cases. I've been around a long time, and
you know, to you and all the other people at
moof On, hats offt to you, John. Thank you John.
We touched a little bit about your Anderson Cooper appearance,
and you and I were talking before we went here,
and what you see is not actually what really happens
(28:20):
on television. I've had that experience myself many times, and
I was wondering if you could share your Anderson Cooper
experience with our audience.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Now.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
I know doctor Joe Nichols very well. I've worked with
Joe in the past many times and tell them the
behind the scenes story of your Anderson Cooper UFO experience.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Yeah, that was April of twenty twelve, and you know,
I was warned by people not to do a pre
taped show because an edit it. But what are you
going to do. You're not going to turn down Anderson
Cooper and if you don't, go somebody else exactly. So
you know, ended up doing the show. And I'll tell
you what though initially I thought it was a great
(29:05):
experience because everything that they asked me, I gave good answers.
Every time Joe Nichol said and Anderson asked me. From
my opinion. I gave a good answer. I mean, everything
went great. And then ten days later the edited version
airs and I'm sitting home watching it and I'm saying,
(29:26):
wait a minute, what happened to that? What happened to this?
I said this, I said to that. There was one
point where Joe Nichol, it was myself, Joe Nicholl, and
three witnesses, the one woman from Bucks County who saw
the magnetic sprinkles, and then two other witnesses from Kentucky.
So Joe Nichol says, I can explain all of this.
(29:46):
What the women saw was Jupiter. The entire audience started laughing.
They dubbed out all the laughter. There was another point
where I said, you know about the witnesses having the
fortitude to come forward, The entire audience applauded. They cut
that part out, and about half the answers I gave
to explain stuff was cut out. Like Joe Nicholas was saying,
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the well, he was saying, Phoenix lights didn't happen. It
was flares, and you know the oh hair airport, he said,
was a whole punch cloud. And I said, wait a minute, Joe,
I mean you have to have freezing temperatures for a
whole punch cloud. It was fifty three degrees that day.
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You couldn't have had a whole punch cloud. So I
gave a lot of good answers, but they edited out
about half of what I said. It was really disappointing
because they tried really hard to make Joe look like
the expert. I mean, we didn't look bad. We told
our side, but a lot of the good explanations just
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were not aired. I called the producer the next day
and I said, what's the deal here, and he says, well,
we ran three minutes over. I said three minutes. I said,
you cut out at least eight minutes of my responses,
you know, but he said he ran over. And they
even brought on a psychic medium for the last ten
(31:15):
minutes of the show. There was no place for this
person in this show. And you know, they're interviewing her
and she's telling Anderson Cooper he's from Lomoria and the
people in the audience just rolling their eyes. There was
really no place for that. But that's typical of one.
It was edited, and two. Mainstream media is not going
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to take this seriously. And Anderson, you know, with his
Anderson three sixties show at Night was not going to
be on air, saying I believe you UFOs are real,
It's just not going to happen. But one thing that
came from it is it was a taped show. If
you went online and looked at the comments, there were
thirteen pages of complaints about Joe Nichols and and the
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treatment of the witnesses. And when he came back after
the summer, it was a live show, and I think
our show forced them to go live Deptember when they
came back.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Why do you think that mainstream media doesn't take UFO
serious anymore? Could it be that there have been so
many absurd sightings and people are just looking for their
fifteen minutes of fame that they've burned the media too
many times.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Well, that's part of it. Like I said, at least
ten percent of the cases are hoaxes and people are
just making the stuff up, or you know, they're floating
something in the sky with lights on it trying to
pass it off as UFOs. That's part of it, but
I think that's a very small part of it. I
think there is absolutely something to this that they can't
(32:54):
tell us now. I know from the military standpoint, it's
all about the technology. And here's an interesting point. The
United States and the UK are the only two countries
who investigate UFOs through their Departments of Defense. If you
look at South American countries, they investigated through their FAA
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Air Safety issues and China and Japan have UFO reporting centers.
In France, you are required to report, Pilots are required
to report UFOs. French police are required to investigate them.
If you detraatee a hoax, you can be arrested in France.
(33:37):
So it's definite. The United States is after the technology.
But I think there's more to this, and maybe it
has something to do with religion, with evolution, how we
actually got here. You know, there is something that's so
horrible that they can't tell us. I'm convinced of that,
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and it's like, like Timothy Goods said, it's above top secret.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
All right, let's talk for a second about the number
of sightings that are reported in Pennsylvania. Why do you
think there are so many UFO sidings in Pennsylvania. The
third highest number of reported UFO sidings in the US
occur in you know, I've read.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
An interest article a couple of years ago. It was
in Popular Mechanics and they were talking about what counties,
what areas, cities have the most UFO sidings, and when
it came to counties that don't have a major city,
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and it's like, you know, Los Angeles County. Let's say
so the second tier counties. Westmoreland County where I live,
has the most UFO sidings in the country in this
county over here by Pittsburgh. And in matter of fact,
Stan Gordon, who's a pretty well known name with Kecksburg,
he lives about two miles from me. This area gets
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the most UFO sidings. They get a ton of bigfoot sidings.
In Pennsylvania, for example, has maybe sixty percent of the
population of New York, but we get three times as
many cases as New York State gets. So you know,
I'm in that two thousand and eight case. This is
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something I kind of surmised when this whole UFO waves started.
It started in Lake Erie, and those the UFOs and
these orbs that were being seen were coming out of
Lake Erie really over Ohio, Wheeling, West Virginia, and then
across Pennsylvania, across Pittsburgh. I could track some of them.
They were seen. They were seen in East Lake, Ohio, Wheeling,
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West Virginia, Pittsburgh, and then across into Philadelphia and Bucks County,
almost as though they go across the state out into
the Atlantic and maybe circle back up around Nova Scotia
or Canada and to Lake Erie. Oh, why, maybe there's
a base under the lake. You know, there's been a
lot of cases of lights and UFOs over Lake Erie.
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There was a famous case of a UFO kind of
like landing on the ice when it was frozen. It
was seen by the coastguard and they were just flappingested
about it.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
Do you think that the governments of the world are
suppressing the fact that UFOs are here.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
There's an interesting point with that, and I made this
point recently with Richard dolan Is. I said, one of
the reasons the United States gives financial aid to one
hundred and forty countries, and part of the reason is
any UFOs come up, there required to call us and
we get the case. Think about it. Remember all the
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cases that come up in other countries, the one in Brazil, Vahina.
Remember that case where there was a creature and the
fire department, the guy picked up creature up to put
it in the ambulance, and the fireman died. I remember reading.
The Americans came and they took all the evidence, they
took the creature, And you see that in a lot
of cases. Who gives us the right to go into
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these countries and take over the investigations? You know, we
were involved in the Iran case in nineteen seventy six
over Tehran. We were involved in that. Why do these
countries call the United States? I think it's because the
foreign aid we give. That's one of the rules is
that we get first you know, tabs on UFO cases.
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I believe that one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
But do you have any idea or do you have
a hypothesis on why there are so many UFO sightings
in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
Well, I was thinking that it's maybe part of that
flight path. If there's a base in Lake Erie, Like
I said, they seem to come, you know, out of
Lake Erie, and then they come across southern pennsylvani and
they go out into the Atlantic Ocean. That was what happened,
absolutely what happened in two thousand and eight. So maybe
it's on the flight path. I don't know, but I
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mean that was one of the theories that we had
back then.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
Tell me about your impressions or your theories about what
happened in Stevensville, Texas with that massive sighting.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Well, I mean, that was a great case. You know,
you look at the fact that one it's over by
the President's home, his ranch in Crawford, Texas, so you
have that case developing. Then you have that whole scenario
with the F sixteens, you know, where people saw these
squadron of F sixteen's chasing this object and the Air
(38:44):
Force first comes out and says there were no S sixteens,
so that was their first mistake of lying about it.
Then they come out and they said there was three,
and it turns out that they were seven. And then
they came out and said, well it was they were
just doing a routine, you know, run. But they fly
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in groups of three, they don't fly in groups of seven.
Seven is a serious situation. So that was a great case,
that really was. And matter of fact, Robert Powell down
in Texas, he showed us a presentation, well he did
it at the MUFON symposium in Las Vegas in July,
and he absolutely showed with the radar, etc. That this
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was a real UFO case. He was able to show
radar from different points in Texas to show that this
was a real object, and he actually had the F
sixteen's on the radar. He could show the group of
F sixteen So it was a good case and a
real case, and maybe there was a reason why they
were over the President's ranch.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Well, once again, we have to set the record straight
that just because there was proof of this object does
not mean that this object was from outer space or
another planet, another galaxy.
Speaker 9 (40:00):
Oh correct, absolutely that that doesn't that you're right with that.
But there are eyewitnesses, you know, So what do you
say to the people who soar this object and then
soar the F sixteens. You know, they always misidentified.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
You know, we're not we're not saying that. We're not
saying that. We're not saying that it's a misidentification.
Speaker 9 (40:21):
You could go to a courtroom.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Yeah, I understand, I understand this. This this this evidence
factor that everybody loves to bring into this discussion that
if you took it to court based on the preponderance
of evidence, you get a conviction. Well, right, that may
be the case, But all I'm saying, is that, why
is it that those people who see things they cannot understand,
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they cannot identify, automatically assume that it's a UFO from
another planet.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
Well, I agree with you. It doesn't prove it. It
doesn't prove it one hundred percent. And then you know,
why can you say it's from another planet. I mean
it could be there could be another species here on
this planet. It could be from the future, it can
be from another dimension, or it could just be a misidentification.
(41:15):
It doesn't mean it's an extraterrestrial creature that's flying these
But you get ten thousand cases a year, and I
guarantee you there are two hundred and three hundred of
that ten thousand that are just phenomenal cases.
Speaker 8 (41:31):
All right, stand by you and I have to take
our final break. John Ventry's our special guest Xnation www.
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You've got four events already planned for twenty thirteen and
for twenty fourteen. Let's talk about the upcoming October fourth
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to sixth event that you're having in Philadelphia.
Speaker 9 (46:34):
Yeah, that should be a really cool conference. It's a
three day event. It's at the Sheridan Hotel in Bucks
County where all those two thousand and eight sightings took place.
And the theme for this year is the UFO Hunter Reunion.
So we have Bill Burns, Pados get doctor Ted from
(46:55):
the UFO Hunter Show on History. The three of them
are going to be there on Satday. Sunday, we have
Travis Walton, Nick Redfern, Anthony Sanchez, myself. There's a total
of thirteen speakers. It starts off Friday night with a
cocktail hour where food is provided. There's two speakers. Saturday
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is the UFO Hunters and five speakers, then a nice
dinner buffet with the speakers and a question and answer session,
and then Sunday is five more speakers. So you get
all of that. You get two meals and thirteen speakers
for a total of one hundred and thirty dollars, which
is probably, you know, almost half a which you pay
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for a lot of the conferences. We don't try to
make a lot of money on it. Just enough money
to buy equipment, you know, radiation detectors, that type of deal.
So it's a great conference, even the whole setup, with
the vendor tables, the way it's run. We have a
nice big room, it's a great dinner. It's definitely I
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know in the Northeast there aren't a lot of UFO
conference it says they tend to be more out west
in the United States, but this is definitely the best
conference in the Northeast to attend.
Speaker 8 (48:09):
Okay, quickly, yeah, we're running out of time. Faster, Let's
talk about the Pittsburgh event on Saturday, November.
Speaker 9 (48:16):
Yeah, that one is Linda Moulton Howe and Kathleen Martin.
It's only twenty five dollars. Actually it's twenty nine because
we give you lunch twenty nine dollars and then you
can purchase the dinner in the evening. There's five speakers, myself,
Stan Gordon, Michael, Lee Hill talking about Lake Erie cases,
and then Kathy and Linda Moulton Howse. So another great
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conference at a very reasonable price.
Speaker 8 (48:39):
Excellent when you're out and about doing that thing you
do being in the state director of moufon and to
talk to the public. What's the number one question you
get asked?
Speaker 9 (48:50):
I know the number one answer I give is my
goal is to make it comfortable for people to come
forward and report a UFO. We don't laugh at people,
we don't make fun of them. We take their information
and we make it comfortable to come forward. And I
think that's why we've gone from ninety cases a year
to over three hundred, because people know they can come
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to us and we're going to treat it as a
serious investigation.
Speaker 8 (49:16):
Hey, John, we've got to say so long for now,
but let's get you back on and if there's any
UFO cases that you think need to get out in
front of the public, give me a call. We'll get
you right on. Thanks very much for sharing your time
with us. Thank you, exall nation. Our guest this hour
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John about a number of things, but we're going to
start We're going to start off by talking about the
moufon sixth Annual UFO Conference that's going to be held
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on two dates in Pennsylvania in Philly Friday to Sunday,
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twenty thirteen. Now for your information, John is the retired
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or people from the sky. Joining me now from his
home in Pennsylvania is John Ventry. And John, Welcome to
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Speaker 9 (04:38):
Thanks for having me on. Rep.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
John, You've got quite a calendar of events coming up.
We've got events happening in Philadelphia in October as well
as November, and then going into twenty fourteen, you've also
had dates of events happening in Erie on April the
twenty sixth, and then you'll be hosting the Muffon Symposium
in Philadelphia from July eighteen to the twentieth and twenty fourteen.
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My goodness, busy days for Mofon PA.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
Yeah. I mean that's four conferences really within an eleven
month period that we'll be putting on. But you know,
I think it's the one thing I really enjoy the
most in this whole UFO field is to put these
conferences on, get the biggest names in the field and
you know, meet them, talk to them, and also speak
at the conferences. So we've got four of the best
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conferences around and you know, we get a lot of
Canadian people coming down to our conferences.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
Well, you know what, Pennsylvania's is a beautiful state. We've
gone through Pennsylvania many times, but I have to ask you,
are there a lot of UFO sightings throughout Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Oh? Yeah, Pennsylvania ranks either number three, usually three or
four in the country, And it's funny the rankings kind
of go by population. California's number one Texas is number two,
and then Pennsylvania, Florida. Sometimes Michigan pops up, you know,
either three or four. But we get about six cases
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a week. It's almost as though the EPs take Sundays off.
We get cases Monday through Friday Saturday. But we actually
average about three hundred cases a year here in Pennsylvania.
And I have twenty eight investigators and I think one
of the best teams out there.
Speaker 8 (06:27):
Mouf on All right, stand by John, You and I
have to take a two minute commercial break. Great having
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And the evidence strongly suggests that it is then our
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Did we really go to the moon? Did we really
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Did we really go.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
To the moon?
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And why weren't there any stars?
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Why?
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Explanation? Our guest this hour is John Ventry www dot
mofon pa dot com and his website is John vent
Free dot com. John, what was it that made you
decide to investigate UFOs and sub subsequently become the state
director of Pennsylvania for mofon.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
You know, it's interesting when I talked to other moufon
people and state directors. They were all big UFO fans
as kids. They you know, read magazines. They were into
UFOs and science and I wasn't. As a kid. I
was into horror movies, comic cons, comic books, famous monsters
(10:33):
of film Land. But what happened was in ninety six
UPS put me on an eighteen month assignment traveling around
the country and I was getting really bored. I'm not
a drinker, and I wanted to write a sci fi book.
So I started writing a book on twenty twelve. It
was a science fiction story with all my ideas because
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I'm pretty creative. And the thing that happened, though, was
as I started looking up these cultures, the Mayans, the Hopies,
you know, the Romans, they were all talking about flying shields,
people from the sky, and I said to myself, you know,
I need to look into UFOs. At that point, I
was forty thirty nine years old. I had no interest
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in UFOs until I started writing this sci fi book.
And then in ninety eight, at forty one, I joined
mufon and you know, just worked my way up. And
I tell you, the more I looked, the more I found.
That's what I find astonishing about this whole UFO field is.
There are so many documents, so many witnesses, photos, et cetera.
(11:42):
The more you look, the more you find. But yet
mainstream media will not cover this as real news.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Have you yourself seen a UFO?
Speaker 9 (11:53):
No, actually, I thought I did. It was June twenty
eighth of two thousand and eight. At ten. I opened
my front door. I went out. I had two Dobuman pinches.
I let them both out. They were pretty well behaved.
All of a sudden, something flies across the sky, going
really fast and bright. It was reflecting the moonlight. The
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moon was in the western sky, this was high in
the northeast. I thought I saw a UFO. I went
back into the house. I told my girlfriend, you're not
going to believe what I just saw. So I did
what our investigators are trained to do. I got online.
I started checking the websites for the space stations, you know, satellites, asteroids, meteors.
(12:37):
And there was an asteroid at ten twenty pm that
flew across the sky over Greensburg, Pennsylvania. And that's what
I saw. So, you know, in one sense, I did
what the investigators do and proved that it wasn't a
UFO by using science. But no, I've never seen a UFO.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
All right, no, you said that, Move on, pa gets
I guess six reports a week of UFO sightings. Now,
out of those six, how many turn out to be
real UFOs and not explainable?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (13:16):
I would say about ten percent. And you know what
I really tell most people and ask that question, about
eighty percent of them are explainable if you've got the
time to do the research into the websites and everything else.
About eighty percent are misidentified, they're explainable. You get about
ten percent, I'd say about ten percent that a hoax
(13:37):
is where people are faking them or they're just making
up the story. And then you get to the last
ten percent, which for us would be you know, two
or three cases a month where this is a real UFO.
We've done the work, and you know, either the person's
story is so believable, or we've done the work like
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we did in a couple of those cases that ended
up on TV shows where we had we had some
trace evidence.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
What kind of trace evidence did you have?
Speaker 9 (14:07):
Yeah, I'll tell you what happened in two thousand and eight.
Most people who you know in this field would say,
if you throw out the year two thousand and eight,
people are going to say, oh, Stephensville January two thousand
and eight. Well, the year started with Stevensville, but it
really ended in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, with a wave of
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UFOs really across Pennsylvania, but centered in Bucks County. We
were getting at that time about only about ninety cases
a year, and all of a sudden, from the middle
of the year for about a four month period, we
got two hundred cases in that four month period. So
(14:49):
what happened was the biggest cases we had were overn
Bucks County. Two cases in particular, the one case the
witness Denise Murder m u r E or Merchant. On
a couple of occasions, I think there was a total
of four. Her dog starts barking at three four in
the morning. She goes outside. She sees this triangular craft
(15:11):
with three lights on it. Now, on one occasion, the
craft drops these metallic sprinkles into her yard into a tree,
and she thought they were probe. She didn't know what
it was, and then it kind of just sucked them
back up like a magnet wood. So what we did
it was really bob garden and my investigator in the area.
(15:32):
He took samples from that tree, other trees in the yard,
trees around the corner. We sent them to two labs.
And what happened was the tree that she said something happened.
That tree had high levels of boron on the leaves.
So and it wasn't on any of the tree in
her yard or in the neighborhood. So I went looking
(15:55):
what is boron used for? Well, boron is used in
nuclear reactors, used in paints to paint the inside of
the reactors. But boron is used in stealth aircrafts because
boron does not reflect radar. So it was interesting what
is boron doing on her tree? You know? I asked
the niece, I said, do you have boron in your
(16:16):
spice rack? She just looked at me. She hadnoyed play,
but I mean she didn't put sprinkle boron onto that tree.
So we ended up with trace evidence.
Speaker 12 (16:24):
There.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
There was eight witnesses. Uh, it's that that particular case
has been on three TV shows. Uh Ufo Hunters. When
I did that one with Bill Burns, he got a
he got a police sergeant and a sketch artist to
interview the eight people separately, and all of them drew
a similar craft and sighting, and so that was a
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good case. You had multiple witnesses, you had trace evidence.
And you know, the interesting thing is Denise called me
recently and told me that the landlord cut that tree down.
She he said that the leaves were growing back a
little strange because he had trimmed it back a lot
and now he cut it down. But then we also
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ended up on the Anderson Cooper Show with that case
last year, her and I and Joe Nichols as a skeptic.
But there was a second case in Bucks County and
Doylestown that was just as good. We did a UFO,
the UFOs of Earth on Discovery Channel with that one.
We have this guy living in this three million dollar home,
(17:31):
a retired contractor. He sees this large cloud again. His
dog barks. He wakes up at three in the morning,
he sees this huge cloud approaching the house and as
he's looking at it, it's a six sided UFO that's
moving only about twenty miles an hour. He said, there's
no way it should have even stayed up in the air.
(17:53):
And it happened again a month later, and he grabs
his wife and they go outside and there's a heat
lightning stamp. As the lightning's going off, he can now
see the craft and he can see between the seams
where six triangular UFOs are docked together. So this craft
then veers off to the northeast and leaves. So again
(18:16):
Bob Gardner and I we contact the Philadelphia Airport. They
invite him up to the tower and they tell him, Yeah,
at four in the morning, four twenty in the morning,
we had a large object with no transponder come on
the screen over Doylestown and then veer off to the northeast.
That matched up exactly with the sighting that Cliff told us.
(18:40):
Now about getting the radar from them.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Okay, hold on here, hold on here, hold on here,
Slow down, Okay, when it comes to the first sighting
this gentleman had at three o'clock in the morning, how
do you see a cloud at night?
Speaker 9 (18:56):
Well, it was a clear sky and he said he
just looked at he was looking out his window and
he said he sawt this large dark object approaching in
the sky. So you know, I mean, that's that's the
description that he gave.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Okay, Now, getting back to the the the tower the
air traffic control was this the civilian air traffic control center.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
It's the tower at the Philadelphia Airport.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Now, when the object that did not have a transponder,
it was it was obviously on radar because the guys
in the tower said that they tracked it. What did
the military say.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Well, we tried to attack the military base that's right there,
and they would not give us an interview. So so
what happened was we the FAA told us there was
no records. They told us there was no records. So
I ended up getting the protocol for the storage of records,
and it turns out they do have discs there. So
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the woman up in the tower sends me to discs.
So I sent it off to one of our experts
and he finds, uh, you know, the paints, the paint
on you know, on the screens. Eight of the screen
showed objects that had no transponders. So I replied back
to her and she was surprised and said to me,
(20:22):
she was surprised that we found anything on those discs,
which I thought was a very strange answer. If you
gave me the disc why would you be surprised. I
pulled anything off of them.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Now, is it possible. Is it possible that what you
actually have target paintings of our military aircraft?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
It could be. I mean, there are things that don't
have transponders, like balloons, crop dusters, which really wouldn't be
in that area, and it could be if military craft
doesn't have a transponder. Let's say, there are other things
that it could be. But the point with all of
that was they were telling me there were no records
to be checked. It was beyond the record retention time.
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But then I was able to get the records. So, uh,
you know, there's a there's a little how do you
know that?
Speaker 8 (21:12):
How do you know that the records you have are
the actual records of the date and time that you
were requesting?
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Well, it was the disc was dated, and after it
was all said and done, they sent me the wrong discs.
They were from it. They were off by one day
because it was four in the morning. They sent me
to disc from the day before, and they sent me
a disc from two days later. So I never actually
got what I was looking for from them.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
All right, John, stand by you and I have to
take our news break. At the bottom of the hour
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Speaker 8 (27:36):
Welcome back to the excell On everyone. John Ventry's our
very special guest this hour. John is the state director
of Pennsylvania for Mouffon. That's the Mutual UFO Network, an
organization that is dedicated to the reporting of UFOs. They
have a They've got investigators that actually go out and
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investigate these cases. I've been around a long time, and
you know, to you and all the other people at
moof On, hats offt to you, John. Thank you John.
We touched a little bit about your Anderson Cooper appearance,
and you and I were talking before we went here,
and what you see is not actually what really happens
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on television. I've had that experience myself many times, and
I was wondering if you could share your Anderson Cooper
experience with our audience.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Now.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
I know doctor Joe Nichols very well. I've worked with
Joe in the past many times and tell them the
behind the scenes story of your Anderson Cooper UFO experience.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Yeah, that was April of twenty twelve, and you know,
I was warned by people not to do a pre
taped show because an edit it. But what are you
going to do. You're not going to turn down Anderson
Cooper and if you don't, go somebody else exactly. So
you know, ended up doing the show. And I'll tell
you what though initially I thought it was a great
(29:05):
experience because everything that they asked me, I gave good answers.
Every time Joe Nichol said and Anderson asked me. From
my opinion. I gave a good answer. I mean, everything
went great. And then ten days later the edited version
airs and I'm sitting home watching it and I'm saying,
(29:26):
wait a minute, what happened to that? What happened to this?
I said this, I said to that. There was one
point where Joe Nichol, it was myself, Joe Nicholl, and
three witnesses, the one woman from Bucks County who saw
the magnetic sprinkles, and then two other witnesses from Kentucky.
So Joe Nichol says, I can explain all of this.
(29:46):
What the women saw was Jupiter. The entire audience started laughing.
They dubbed out all the laughter. There was another point
where I said, you know about the witnesses having the
fortitude to come forward, The entire audience applauded. They cut
that part out, and about half the answers I gave
to explain stuff was cut out. Like Joe Nicholas was saying,
(30:11):
the well, he was saying, Phoenix lights didn't happen. It
was flares, and you know the oh hair airport, he said,
was a whole punch cloud. And I said, wait a minute, Joe,
I mean you have to have freezing temperatures for a
whole punch cloud. It was fifty three degrees that day.
(30:32):
You couldn't have had a whole punch cloud. So I
gave a lot of good answers, but they edited out
about half of what I said. It was really disappointing
because they tried really hard to make Joe look like
the expert. I mean, we didn't look bad. We told
our side, but a lot of the good explanations just
(30:53):
were not aired. I called the producer the next day
and I said, what's the deal here, and he says, well,
we ran three minutes over. I said three minutes. I said,
you cut out at least eight minutes of my responses,
you know, but he said he ran over. And they
even brought on a psychic medium for the last ten
(31:15):
minutes of the show. There was no place for this
person in this show. And you know, they're interviewing her
and she's telling Anderson Cooper he's from Lomoria and the
people in the audience just rolling their eyes. There was
really no place for that. But that's typical of one.
It was edited, and two. Mainstream media is not going
(31:36):
to take this seriously. And Anderson, you know, with his
Anderson three sixties show at Night was not going to
be on air, saying I believe you UFOs are real,
It's just not going to happen. But one thing that
came from it is it was a taped show. If
you went online and looked at the comments, there were
thirteen pages of complaints about Joe Nichols and and the
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treatment of the witnesses. And when he came back after
the summer, it was a live show, and I think
our show forced them to go live Deptember when they
came back.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Why do you think that mainstream media doesn't take UFO
serious anymore? Could it be that there have been so
many absurd sightings and people are just looking for their
fifteen minutes of fame that they've burned the media too
many times.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Well, that's part of it. Like I said, at least
ten percent of the cases are hoaxes and people are
just making the stuff up, or you know, they're floating
something in the sky with lights on it trying to
pass it off as UFOs. That's part of it, but
I think that's a very small part of it. I
think there is absolutely something to this that they can't
(32:54):
tell us now. I know from the military standpoint, it's
all about the technology. And here's an interesting point. The
United States and the UK are the only two countries
who investigate UFOs through their Departments of Defense. If you
look at South American countries, they investigated through their FAA
(33:17):
Air Safety issues and China and Japan have UFO reporting centers.
In France, you are required to report, Pilots are required
to report UFOs. French police are required to investigate them.
If you detraatee a hoax, you can be arrested in France.
(33:37):
So it's definite. The United States is after the technology.
But I think there's more to this, and maybe it
has something to do with religion, with evolution, how we
actually got here. You know, there is something that's so
horrible that they can't tell us. I'm convinced of that,
(33:58):
and it's like, like Timothy Goods said, it's above top secret.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
All right, let's talk for a second about the number
of sightings that are reported in Pennsylvania. Why do you
think there are so many UFO sidings in Pennsylvania. The
third highest number of reported UFO sidings in the US
occur in you know, I've read.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
An interest article a couple of years ago. It was
in Popular Mechanics and they were talking about what counties,
what areas, cities have the most UFO sidings, and when
it came to counties that don't have a major city,
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and it's like, you know, Los Angeles County. Let's say
so the second tier counties. Westmoreland County where I live,
has the most UFO sidings in the country in this
county over here by Pittsburgh. And in matter of fact,
Stan Gordon, who's a pretty well known name with Kecksburg,
he lives about two miles from me. This area gets
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the most UFO sidings. They get a ton of bigfoot sidings.
In Pennsylvania, for example, has maybe sixty percent of the
population of New York, but we get three times as
many cases as New York State gets. So you know,
I'm in that two thousand and eight case. This is
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something I kind of surmised when this whole UFO waves started.
It started in Lake Erie, and those the UFOs and
these orbs that were being seen were coming out of
Lake Erie really over Ohio, Wheeling, West Virginia, and then
across Pennsylvania, across Pittsburgh. I could track some of them.
They were seen. They were seen in East Lake, Ohio, Wheeling,
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West Virginia, Pittsburgh, and then across into Philadelphia and Bucks County,
almost as though they go across the state out into
the Atlantic and maybe circle back up around Nova Scotia
or Canada and to Lake Erie. Oh, why, maybe there's
a base under the lake. You know, there's been a
lot of cases of lights and UFOs over Lake Erie.
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There was a famous case of a UFO kind of
like landing on the ice when it was frozen. It
was seen by the coastguard and they were just flappingested
about it.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
Do you think that the governments of the world are
suppressing the fact that UFOs are here.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
There's an interesting point with that, and I made this
point recently with Richard dolan Is. I said, one of
the reasons the United States gives financial aid to one
hundred and forty countries, and part of the reason is
any UFOs come up, there required to call us and
we get the case. Think about it. Remember all the
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cases that come up in other countries, the one in Brazil, Vahina.
Remember that case where there was a creature and the
fire department, the guy picked up creature up to put
it in the ambulance, and the fireman died. I remember reading.
The Americans came and they took all the evidence, they
took the creature, And you see that in a lot
of cases. Who gives us the right to go into
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these countries and take over the investigations? You know, we
were involved in the Iran case in nineteen seventy six
over Tehran. We were involved in that. Why do these
countries call the United States? I think it's because the
foreign aid we give. That's one of the rules is
that we get first you know, tabs on UFO cases.
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I believe that one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
But do you have any idea or do you have
a hypothesis on why there are so many UFO sightings
in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
Well, I was thinking that it's maybe part of that
flight path. If there's a base in Lake Erie, Like
I said, they seem to come, you know, out of
Lake Erie, and then they come across southern pennsylvani and
they go out into the Atlantic Ocean. That was what happened,
absolutely what happened in two thousand and eight. So maybe
it's on the flight path. I don't know, but I
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mean that was one of the theories that we had
back then.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
Tell me about your impressions or your theories about what
happened in Stevensville, Texas with that massive sighting.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Well, I mean, that was a great case. You know,
you look at the fact that one it's over by
the President's home, his ranch in Crawford, Texas, so you
have that case developing. Then you have that whole scenario
with the F sixteens, you know, where people saw these
squadron of F sixteen's chasing this object and the Air
(38:44):
Force first comes out and says there were no S sixteens,
so that was their first mistake of lying about it.
Then they come out and they said there was three,
and it turns out that they were seven. And then
they came out and said, well it was they were
just doing a routine, you know, run. But they fly
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in groups of three, they don't fly in groups of seven.
Seven is a serious situation. So that was a great case,
that really was. And matter of fact, Robert Powell down
in Texas, he showed us a presentation, well he did
it at the MUFON symposium in Las Vegas in July,
and he absolutely showed with the radar, etc. That this
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was a real UFO case. He was able to show
radar from different points in Texas to show that this
was a real object, and he actually had the F
sixteen's on the radar. He could show the group of
F sixteen So it was a good case and a
real case, and maybe there was a reason why they
were over the President's ranch.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Well, once again, we have to set the record straight
that just because there was proof of this object does
not mean that this object was from outer space or
another planet, another galaxy.
Speaker 9 (40:00):
Oh correct, absolutely that that doesn't that you're right with that.
But there are eyewitnesses, you know, So what do you
say to the people who soar this object and then
soar the F sixteens. You know, they always misidentified.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
You know, we're not we're not saying that. We're not
saying that. We're not saying that it's a misidentification.
Speaker 9 (40:21):
You could go to a courtroom.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Yeah, I understand, I understand this. This this this evidence
factor that everybody loves to bring into this discussion that
if you took it to court based on the preponderance
of evidence, you get a conviction. Well, right, that may
be the case, But all I'm saying, is that, why
is it that those people who see things they cannot understand,
(40:45):
they cannot identify, automatically assume that it's a UFO from
another planet.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
Well, I agree with you. It doesn't prove it. It
doesn't prove it one hundred percent. And then you know,
why can you say it's from another planet. I mean
it could be there could be another species here on
this planet. It could be from the future, it can
be from another dimension, or it could just be a misidentification.
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It doesn't mean it's an extraterrestrial creature that's flying these
But you get ten thousand cases a year, and I
guarantee you there are two hundred and three hundred of
that ten thousand that are just phenomenal cases.
Speaker 8 (41:31):
All right, stand by you and I have to take
our final break. John Ventry's our special guest Xnation www.
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Welcome back to the Excellent everyone. John Ventry is my
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You've got four events already planned for twenty thirteen and
for twenty fourteen. Let's talk about the upcoming October fourth
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to sixth event that you're having in Philadelphia.
Speaker 9 (46:34):
Yeah, that should be a really cool conference. It's a
three day event. It's at the Sheridan Hotel in Bucks
County where all those two thousand and eight sightings took place.
And the theme for this year is the UFO Hunter Reunion.
So we have Bill Burns, Pados get doctor Ted from
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the UFO Hunter Show on History. The three of them
are going to be there on Satday. Sunday, we have
Travis Walton, Nick Redfern, Anthony Sanchez, myself. There's a total
of thirteen speakers. It starts off Friday night with a
cocktail hour where food is provided. There's two speakers. Saturday
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is the UFO Hunters and five speakers, then a nice
dinner buffet with the speakers and a question and answer session,
and then Sunday is five more speakers. So you get
all of that. You get two meals and thirteen speakers
for a total of one hundred and thirty dollars, which
is probably, you know, almost half a which you pay
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for a lot of the conferences. We don't try to
make a lot of money on it. Just enough money
to buy equipment, you know, radiation detectors, that type of deal.
So it's a great conference, even the whole setup, with
the vendor tables, the way it's run. We have a
nice big room, it's a great dinner. It's definitely I
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know in the Northeast there aren't a lot of UFO
conference it says they tend to be more out west
in the United States, but this is definitely the best
conference in the Northeast to attend.
Speaker 8 (48:09):
Okay, quickly, yeah, we're running out of time. Faster, Let's
talk about the Pittsburgh event on Saturday, November.
Speaker 9 (48:16):
Yeah, that one is Linda Moulton Howe and Kathleen Martin.
It's only twenty five dollars. Actually it's twenty nine because
we give you lunch twenty nine dollars and then you
can purchase the dinner in the evening. There's five speakers, myself,
Stan Gordon, Michael, Lee Hill talking about Lake Erie cases,
and then Kathy and Linda Moulton Howse. So another great
(48:36):
conference at a very reasonable price.
Speaker 8 (48:39):
Excellent when you're out and about doing that thing you
do being in the state director of moufon and to
talk to the public. What's the number one question you
get asked?
Speaker 9 (48:50):
I know the number one answer I give is my
goal is to make it comfortable for people to come
forward and report a UFO. We don't laugh at people,
we don't make fun of them. We take their information
and we make it comfortable to come forward. And I
think that's why we've gone from ninety cases a year
to over three hundred, because people know they can come
(49:13):
to us and we're going to treat it as a
serious investigation.
Speaker 8 (49:16):
Hey, John, we've got to say so long for now,
but let's get you back on and if there's any
UFO cases that you think need to get out in
front of the public, give me a call. We'll get
you right on. Thanks very much for sharing your time
with us. Thank you, exall nation. Our guest this hour
has been John Ventry. He's the Pennsylvania State director for
moofon the Mutual UFO network. Two websites www Dot MOFONPA
(49:42):
dot com and www dot Johnventre dot com. And unlike
The Anderson Cooper Show, this show is not edited. We'll
be back on the other side of this commercial break
at six and a half minutes past the top of
the hour. As we continue with yours TROLLI Rob McConnell
from our broadcast center in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Don't go
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