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November 17, 2024 38 mins
Our annual belated Halloween episode is finally up and today, Al, Ryan & Louie go to a dilapidated apartment in the Valley as we discuss the music video for Billie Eilish's smash hit, "Bury A Friend."
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
All Right, hello, and welcome to episode one hundred and
twenty one of Throwback Music Video Review podcast, and tonight
we are celebrating our Halloweens.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Book episode Helloween twenty five.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm sorry everybody, we are a little behind due to
Al Studios getting a huge renovation thing and just the
current events kind of delayed things. And so here we
are at recording our Halloween episode in November, knee deep
into November with Billie Eilish's Barry a.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Friend Very Run.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
The is a song by American singer songwriter Billie Eilish
and the third single from her debut studio album When
We Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? It was released
on January thirtieth, twenty nineteen, to critical acclaim and reached
number one in Sweden and Latvia. Wow Sorry peak around

(01:24):
there too, and the song reached the top ten in
New Zealand, Canada, Australia, and the UK, while reaching number
fourteen in the US Billboard Hot one hundred. The music
video was directed by Michael Chavis and it currently has
four hundred and seventy seven million views on YouTube. So, guys,

(01:45):
what is your history with.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Very not much?

Speaker 5 (01:50):
I mean, you know, she she made her rounds in
early in the in the pre COVID era, right, that's
when I heard her name first.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Not really, I think she had a lot of ready.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Airplay, right, yes, oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
But unfortunately never really listened to the radio very often,
so I never really caught a lot of the music.
But you know online, but no, I've never seen I'm
not familiar with this song nor the video. Just her
like the act I guess or artist, but not really
so much about her.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
You never caught any of her music? Oh it's weird
soundtracks or anything.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
No, I'm sure I did. I just didn't know it
was her, right, you know. That kind of happens all
the time with me.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
But yeah, it's a way later.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
If you heard Bad Guy, you I'm sure you've.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Heard a song.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
Yeah, probably, yeah, because if you've seen the movie The
Bad Guys, it's the song for that movie.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
The cartoon, the animation.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
It's like a cartoon. Yeah, Mark Maren's the voice. Yeah,
I don't know her before she got famous. Was she
like a YouTube? Was she like a just a bib artist?

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Actually, oh that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
He was artist.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
I originally thought she was from Canada. I thought she
was kind of like I don't really, Yeah, she didn't
seem like a like a like especially an LA artist.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
But I guess. But the valley is like the Canada
of Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
This is it's correct.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
Well, parts of the valley, some of the parts of
value a bit Mexican foreign.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Yeah, it's just a.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Foreign yeapecially if it's not your hunt over there.

Speaker 7 (03:05):
Yeah, exactly, if you only go there like once every
five or seven years.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:10):
The valley is such a strange place because within the
valley there's just the Beverly Hills of the valley, and
then there's like the downtown LA of the I mean,
or not even downtown LA, like the south central of
the valley, and you know, there's all these other regions
just in the valley.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
It's because it's so large.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
A lot of pockets of yeah, neighborhoods yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
Right, which like in like Roun Chicackamunga area all that
that deserty area out there, it's kind of all similar.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
You know, you see a lot of the same things.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Where the valley it's dramatic, just every off front from
the freeway is completely different.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yeah, it's such a different place.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, so you think the the Eilish actually flourished from
that kind of environment.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
It's like an environment where I could see it being
if you stay in your one little pocket, you're only
going to get that.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
But if you do go to like public school.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
You're going to get all these like mini areas going
to that school, you know, so you soak up a
lot of culture. Yeah, very diverse because it's each pocket
is very, very very diverse, and it's very kind of
stuck in their culture, you know. So then when you
do go into you get a little bit homogenized. You
kind of bounce off that kind of stuff. Or even
where we grew up, like La Monte, you know, it's

(04:14):
very Latino, very Filipino, and kind of that's it. You know,
there's really nothing out there was like what we had
one African American kid in our Yeah, very few, very
few white people. So, you know, we were very kind
of homogenized in our own you know. So, but where
the valley it's it's such a big place that when
you do bring kids to like a high school or something,
it's kind of gets a little.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Bit more diverse if it's in that right area.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
So it's the classic, you know, Hollywood portrayal of a
high school where it's just a diverse crew.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (04:42):
Yeah, we're like, yeah, hollywoodhig would be like that because
you would have like some fancy areas, but that you
would also but nowadays a lot of the fancy areas
would send their kids to like Crossroads or some other
like private school in like the in like the West Side.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
You know.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
Yeah, so it's a lot different now, but.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Your history would be honest, sorry, lose history with the
valley's history in the valley. That's Charlie.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
That's a part of my my history with Billie Eilish
because I was I thought she was like a Canadian.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
I thought she was like a Justin Bieber, you know.

Speaker 7 (05:14):
No, I mean everything I've heard of from he or
I liked, you know, I think she's a really really
talented singer. I think her brother is a really really
great songwriter. I love the Minimalists in their music. Bad
Guy is a really good song. I danced to it
on the dance Dance Relation or with what's the dance song,
Just dance, Just dance. It's a good song to dance
to you. I get all the points. No, no, I

(05:36):
I really, you know, for a new up and carcoming artist,
for an.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Old crotchety shoe gays guy like me.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
I actually think she's very, very talented, and I really
do always enjoy anything that she comes out with.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Would you consider this song industrial?

Speaker 7 (05:54):
I saw that, I saw that I can't see her
hang with ministry. I saw her that she's a fan
of like nails there that Yeah, No, not really.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
It's it's a pop song, you.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Know, electronica.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah yeah, it is.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
At best, it's electronica, and it has like a dark
you know, her voice is naturally kind of dark. Even
when she sings kind of happy songs, she just has
that kind of like monotone, very melancholy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
which is really cool and I like that, But no,
it's not. I don't think it's an industrial song.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
How about you out? What made you choose this?

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, you were looking around for a scary music video
problem in an episode Forgot, and.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
This one kind of came up, and I'm like, hey,
this is pretty cool. We should do this.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Personally, I have no investment in emotionally and Billie Eilish,
but I do appreciate her artistically, and you know, she's
all been kind of like since the pandemic, really been
in the public sub consciousness. I guess I even have
friends in the scene, you know, who make music in
the industrial scene, who actually like her, and I like, hey, okay,

(07:01):
you know, like I mean, she can't be that bad.
Like to me, it's like I didn't really you know,
back then, when you know, when she was peaking with
with this album, with her debut album, I still refuse
to pay attention because I'm such a curmudget you know.

Speaker 7 (07:12):
Well it's also borderline creepy because she was so young when.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, it's like, you know, like I don't want to
be a bad guy and check her out, you know,
but not to be honest though, like I just it
just didn't appeal to me it then. And then I
started hearing her music on the radio like bad guy
of course. And then I heard their song through the
true Detective thing and it's like, oh, okay, like I
love I love like I listened to the entire album,
you know, in research of this for this show, and

(07:39):
it's like the way she delivers vocals, it is like
it's so it defies a lot of the standards I'm
used to, not even musically, it's just how she delivers
her lines. And just like her her lyrics are you know,
what you would expect from someone from her age, very young,
and just I you know, heard it better. But the
way she delivers it though, is like I'm something like
that's what blew my mind. It's she would deliver the

(08:01):
most simple lines, but it works with the music and
it's like whoa Like it's it's a twist. I loved it,
like kept me like just like engaged with the song,
even though with such a you know, like middling lyrics.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
But still, I mean, she's still a kid. Yeah, she's
a kid.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
And this is what I'll bring up too, is that
I mean she's.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
Not a kid, but she's very young, so she doesn't
live much life, so her lyrics will get better, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I can only imagine her, you know, like hopefully she's
still making content get to our age. But I was
telling Ryan earlier is that when I was in to
her music and her vocals, I'm like, oh, man, like
I've seen this, I've done this, I've felt this, you know,
like four or five times over, and to her, it's
like such a new emotion, right, And I'm like, man,
I wish I was like younger to really feel the

(08:44):
gravity of how she's feeling of these emotions.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
That's what her young fans are feeling, right right.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
And I'm sure that's what it is for a lot
of young fans, but like us, we've seen it three
times five times over in heavier doses.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
But we're dead inside.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
If you think, how often do you do you get
excited when a new up and coming young act maybe
like late teens zero right now?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Right?

Speaker 7 (09:06):
Yeah, I get it everyone, And I it's weird because
it makes me feel weird because I'm like, fuck, this
fucking song.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Would this happen like a while back? This is a
while so the what is it called?

Speaker 7 (09:18):
You know the band Beach Bunny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Beach Bunny song. A lot of people were using it
for like TikTok and stuff like that, you know, but
I heard it before, like on something, and I was like, Jesus,
this song fucking ruled, Like it's so good, and she
was very she's very young, but it's just a really
great song. But the lyrics are really really good and
it's it has.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
Nothing to do with me.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
It's about you know, female like kind of like body
shaming stuff like that, you know. But I was like, wow,
this is such a great song, you know, and she's
so young, and I was like, oh, I don't know,
you know, this is you know, kind of weird too.
But it's just like one of those things where you
just hear that a really great pop song, yeah, and
you're just like whoa like And then you look them
up later and you're like, oh, well, you know, like

(09:58):
she's seventeen or eight, you know whatever, you know, And
that doesn't make me say like, oh, this is a
bad Like I was just like, Wow, that was amazed.
While you have this much life already and you're making
these songs and yeah, she's gonna get there.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
I don't know. Beach bunny just.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Like a beach bunny.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
It's just like this amazing lyricist. She really writes really
really good lyrics. But someone asked me about Billie Eyelish,
and the way I try to explain it was because
they're like, well, what do you like so much about
her voice? I really think her singing is really really great.
And the way the only way I could put it
was like a funk drummer. You ever see a really
good funk drummer, like James Brown's drummer, right, really fucking good, right,

(10:36):
But he's.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Just playing the same ship.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
He's just playing like, you know, the breakbeat, you know,
the high hat, the snare, the bass drum, you know,
he's just doing that over and over again. But it's
so consistent through the song is just such a great thing.
It's very simple, but it's so tight.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
And a jazz.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
Drummer, he could go crazy, he could do a jazz
bill She's control, she has the control, you know, and
she just she and she could hold back, and that's
really hard to do well, especially when you're singing about
love songs and trying to put a lot of emotion
to it. You want to go higher, you want to
get louder, you know. But she's very very controlled, and
that control is what I really appreciate because a lot

(11:14):
of people don't do that, you know, it's and it's
and for somebody so young at the time when this
song came out, and but she's she's, she's she's still
getting better at it now, you know, even her newer
songs are just so good. So it's just something that
a lot of people don't do.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
And it's yeah, some people do too much, Yeah, especially
at this age level. But what I'm noticing is as
the more you guys, the more we talk about it,
is it kind of reflects her personality. I think she's
kind of guarded, you know, kind of vulnerable, So it
reflects the way she delivers her you know, her vocal style, right,
it's very kind of like it's controlled, like yeah, it's

(11:48):
almost like she doesn't want you to hear too much.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
But it works for her.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
The music they make, Yeah, it's very minimalist, right, and
then she can hold everything in but just let enough
out to make everything they come out like even and
you know, nicely. And yeah, I think she's kind of
like that, huh. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
But it also says a lot about her, her partner,
her brother, Phineas, Mister Phineas, who knows that the voice
is the thing that needs to be focused on in
the song up front.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You know.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
That's to his great power that he knows that he
needs to hold back and he needs to write to
her music. I mean they they probably work together. I'm
sure they write together. Yeah, yeah, but he he doesn't
want to, like I need to put a solo here,
I need to do this. You know, he knows that
it's the voice, you know, and he really puts that
forefront in the songs, which I think. You know, it

(12:37):
takes a lot too, It takes a lot of control.
You know, he wants to be seen too, you know
he's there, but I'm sure he wants to. But it's
just a really good molding. And I think it's kind
of powerful to hold back, you know, it is Minimalist
music is really hard to do.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
That's art form. Yeah, holding back, controlling. But he has
his own band too, right, have you heard any of that.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
I've never heard his stuff now, no, no, I haven't,
but yeah, but he.

Speaker 8 (13:03):
Maximalist industrial, right, every synth at the same time with
five drummers through a million distortion pedals.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
And this is just for fun. He just wanted like
a billion grammys already.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
I know, right, if you were in the brother's place,
would you be comfortable?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You're good with that, you think.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Hey, if the talent is there with my little sister,
hell yeah, I'll hell yeah, I'll build I'll build upon it.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
But like to me, like would want to do your
own thing? And I mean, I'll do my.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Own thing, but like, I know what what would put
food on my table?

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Though?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Right?

Speaker 7 (13:44):
If I was if I was Phineas, which I probably
would never be, but if I was Phineas, I would
become a producer, right, and I would produce other bands.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
I wouldn't do my own soul thing.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I would just keep just working with different my sisters.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
Going, you know, and then work with other artists that
if I want to, if I want to try some
being different, I want to do, you.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Know, because that's still you Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a
good idea.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
And that's where the money is that the producing is are.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
The money the credits?

Speaker 7 (14:07):
Yeah, and he's going to be writing in producing. Come on,
you know, if I was in yeah, I would just
start making movies, movies.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
I bet you that's what's going to happen, scoring films
and you know.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Like end up like Trent Reznoran most people who are
really good, you know, music writers. That's what happened.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
That's exactly what I would do. Her parents, like in the.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Movie the mom is a actress.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh okay, yeah, so they there got their foot in
the door and st the entertainment.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
It's not very big, but a lot of credits to
her name, TV and movies and likes or anything.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
No, you can't really call them nepple babies.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Can you.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
Well, they're working actors. I think, yeah, they're just like
a dad.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'm not sure dad's owns the record label.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
Their dad is a majority share of the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't think the dad does any any clouds in
the in the music industry. I think I really think that,
you know, these siblings got past all that with their talent.
I mean, maybe they got a little foot in the
door because of you know, the parents knew a couple
of people. But that's all okay, and uh, with this
ad break, will be right back to some pop quiz

(15:17):
all right, Time for some pop quiz hop. Billie Eilish's
label is Dark Room, an imprint of Interscope Records. Interscope
was founded in nineteen ninety and their first release was
by this artist. Okay, all right, okay a Rico Save
by Girardo b. Jerry was a race car driver by Primus.

(15:39):
See what's going on for non blondes or d Good vibrations,
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Well that is Jimmy Iveen were on Interscope. Oh do
we know this is executives either got to be greekos
Save Art's gonna with the last one.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Good vibrations are good vibration.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Mark, I'm gonna go Swave.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I'm gonna go Marky Mark.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Okay, Ryan says good vibrations, He says Rico Swabe. Louis right, Yes,
it is ric Swave.

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Because I think Jimmy Ivan left like another record company,
and I think he signed him because he thought like, oh,
this guy's gonna be a movie star next.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah, you know he's in It's It's Sean Pan and
Robert Colors, Colors Colors.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I remember seeing that.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, I'm saying Gerardo, Yeah, Gerardo was one of the Yeah,
he's one of the that's funny, right.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
I was listening to I Forget What some podcasts and
there was an actor who said he worked for Gerardo,
and he said that he wore a wig like from
the beginning it.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Was Rico Swabi run. Yeah, that nice, beautiful lush.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Then no, he had no hair and he was wearing man.
I was lied to, but I don't know. That's just
what this is, speculation, legend this guy.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, okay, question number two for pop quiz. Verry a
Friend was prominent as the theme song for HBO Maxist
Detective Night Country. The song's chili theme was often featured
in soundtracks for thrillers and fantasy films, which one of
these following movies did not.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Okay, use Verry a Friend? Okay?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
A Kimmy starring Zoe Kravitz guessing that scene a movie? Yeah, yeah,
when she's like, you know, very uh introverted, okay. B
the Substance starring Demi Moore and Margaret Qually. See Night
Swim starring Wyatt Russell and Ryan's girlfriend Kerry Condon. Indeed,

(17:39):
Madam Webb starting to Conna Johnson was just.

Speaker 9 (17:47):
Coda Johnson, So you can say, rise is Madame?

Speaker 6 (18:01):
What's the second one?

Speaker 2 (18:03):
The substance? So which one is this not used?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Barry?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
If from was not using the soundtrack.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
For these movies.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
I think it's in the substance. But I'm gonna say
the substance right.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
Yeah, he's really harping on that movie.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
I gotta use it. And I saw Madame web I
remember it from Madam Webb.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Luis right.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
It is the substance that is not feature.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
All Right, it's time for the lightning.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Round two questions. I like that.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
We gotta keep the ship tight. We're running out of
time here. Okay. Famous people named Billy.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Okay, there you go, Bean.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
So you guys have played cross rewards before, right, you
know there's a little clue and then you fill it
up with whatever. Okay. So I'm gonna say a little
characteristic about this person named Billy, and you tell me
their last name. Okay. So we'll start with Ryan here, Okay,
Miley's dad, right, Okay, louis American idiot.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Oh, Billy Corgan? No, Billy, Billy Joel. You know Billy Wait,
what his name?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Billy fucking I think you're right, Billy Joe.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
It's Billy.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
It's like a three words, yes, Billy something Joe, Billy
Joe Armstrong.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yes, sorry, okay, Ryan Pumpkin smash here, Billy Corgan there
you go. Okay, Louis, Wait there's more. That's his tagline,
that's catchphrase.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Wait there's more.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
Billy Jane King. I don't know, Billy May Oh, Billy Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yes, Ryan Titanic Arthur Billy Yes, Louie, Ryan Stimpy.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
Bryan Stimpy.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
Oh, Billy, I can't remember anybody.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Billy West, Yes, Ryan Bleed Slinger.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
I just read an interview with him. He looks amazing though. Yeah,
he looked like boy George.

Speaker 7 (20:12):
He's wearing like big hats and like a like very flamboyant.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Really he's going he's going asy fantasy on us. Okay, Louis,
Battle of the Sexist participant. Billy Jean King, Yes, Ryan Strange,
fruit singer, Billy my name.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
It's almost the season. I have the season where we're
off for you guys, get vacation week. The not the
Christmas season. But if you're in a war against the Bible,
you call Christmas the.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah, that thing that's the first leader a holiday, the holiday.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I don't remember things anymore.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
And finally Louis Lillie West I couldn't really get.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
That that it is. And final Lois dances with himself.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
Oh, Billy Idle.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah, you guys.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
All nailed it.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Perfect a good one.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I like format, Yes, the Crossbord puzzle vision of Lightning. Okay,
let's talk about the music video for Berry.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
So this is another Really it's like a.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
This is another pretty good director that is doing music
videos like he's made like a lot of folks.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
It's Michael Chavis. He's done Curson Laurona, one of the
Conjuring movies, and then the last One movie two Conjured.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Well, then the next Country movies coming out, the Last
Rights is coming on.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
There's another one coming out, So yeah, he's a he's
a pretty established horror film director. So you can it
really bleeds.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Out and like None too is like the good one,
right None two is the one that everybody says, like.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I haven't even seen the first Nun tell you truth,
I won't.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
Know you bought your own. It's pretty good and yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah creep movies.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean you know it shows like
what he does what he does with this for the
only like what three and a half minutes of this
music video, it's pretty good how he established the creepiness
of it. So yeah, it starts out with a man
sleeping in the bed right and this kind of decrepit apartment,
very clinical looking apartment.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
Yeah, it's like the apartment from Always Sunday in Philadelphia,
like that that apartment building.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Like it's scary, it's dilapidated. Probably you know it probably
like it looks like where we would rehearse back in
the day.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Yeah, it was a rehearsal studio.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, and uh yeah, apparently this this guy slip sleeping
on the bed is a good friend of Billie Eilish's.
His name is Mikhai Caine. He's a British rapper apparently,
and they got to know each other through social media
and then I guess, you know, like hey, you know
startling music video and like okay, cool and then her
they are. But yeah, he's sleeping on his bed and

(23:02):
has anyone here ever had sleep perounses demons?

Speaker 5 (23:05):
We've talked, so.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's kind of like that where you know, you sleep
in the monster monster under your bed and this is
Beillie Eilish. But yeah, the song basically starts with that,
and you know, and he would break into parts of
and she got he got vocal credits, by the way,
for just throwing a couple.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Of lines in the c Does he sing?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
He doesn't really sing, but he adds his voice, right,
so I guess it counts as the credits a couple
of places, so that probably probably has a few, you know,
a few shekels and royalties, you know, good for him. Basically,
this music video centers on her being this entity that
haunts him, but at the same time she's being haunted

(23:48):
as well.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
She also talks about how we all everybody has their
monster in the bed, right, and I think he was
he didn't you ask alf it was like a suicide
or a breakup?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
She didn't allude to any of that, and people when
people ask her what the song means or what you know.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
No, it seems like it's like, uh, it's like his nightmare, right,
and then his nightmares also has demons, right, It's almost
like his subconscious demons.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
I'm guessing, yeah, But.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Like she basically she seems to be the one who's
tormented though you.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Know, necessarily him exactly. She's the one who's roaming around
these apartment. You know, she's she's still a very frightening character,
but you know, the concepts of her being dragged around
by these rubber gloved hands. Yeah, being dragged around. I
thought those scenes were really awesome. Thought that was composed.
I keep dragging her down once from one scene to another.

(24:39):
I thought, I was like, wow, I've never seen that
in any element in any horror movie.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
I thought they were gonna give her a tattoo because
of the black gloves.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, all the time horrors were black gloves.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Are your local burger joint for those you know those
those guys are charge you fifteen dollars a burger and
they're preparing your meat and cutting up your thing. They
were in the same black gloves. Oh yeah, no burgers.
I don't know when I when I saw that, but
I'm thinking, like, if if I was a horror director,
there would no there would not be close. But I'm
sure that was a demand by an agent or even.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
But I just to me, it's like bloody hands or
something would would really be awesome.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
That's over the top, though.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
I guess, right, cliche.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
So it's a minimalist song, so it gets minimal as horror.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
It's true, but the black works because you don't know
because okay, if it's bloody, then obviously it's you know,
I think it works your mind more if it's like surgical.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, they're experimenting on her, that's true, abducted.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
Physical pain instead of like a mental pain.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
You know, at least that part, right, And then you
get the needles all over. They rip her shirt off, right,
And that's that's the weird part because she in the beginning,
you're led to think that she's the monster, but then
she's the one that gets gets kind of like exactly.
That's a good little twist into it, right.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
It's like there's like a few movies out there where
the ghost is portrayed as a as you know, like
a horrifying entity, and then all of a sudden you
find out they're actually a force of good trying to
help you. Yeah, I'm not the evil ones. These other
ghosts are, you know.

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Also too, Like at first I thought like, oh, she's
like they're a couple. And there's sometimes you know, when
I've been dating somebody and we've been living together, and
i wake up and I'm watching them sleeping, I'm thinking
about something terrible and in some fucking deep dark place,
you know, and or I'm having a dream but I'm
sleeping next to somebody, but I'm out of body, you know,
and you have these kind of either regrets or you

(26:35):
feel bad for like cheating on them, and they're right there.
You know, you have all these kind of deep emotions
and you got to get up and leave and they
don't even know you're gone. You know, they're deep asleep
and they and it's almost like you have all these
secrets that they don't know about. And it's like reflective
as they're just sleeping through this relationship, right, I mean
not sleeping, like they're not paying attention, but you're you
have this other life out of that.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
You know.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
That's how I first saw it. You know, even though
sometimes you're the cause of your own pain, it is painful,
you know, and there is reasons why you're doing it.
And I could see like those needles, you know, like
you know, you're almost giving them to yourself and all
that kind of stuff. You're the bearer of your own
pain when you're in doing that kind of.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Stuff that you got to see the substance.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Yeah, this guy will tell about the substance.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
Are you getting this is a pain advertisement that you're
not telling about.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
This episode is by the substance story.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
No, but what you're saying is actually the way you
bring out because there's a lot of injections movie much
like you're about. It's like, you know, they're already trying
to pail story start talking about it.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I'm like, wait a second.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
I mean injections are scary.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Oh I'm horrified.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, I mean it's playing putting something.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
In your body.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
Are Like, I'm a very like regular giver of white
blood cells to like, I give blood a lot, you know,
but I usually give the power blood thing, and it's
always scary, you know, Like I do it all the time.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
I'm used to it.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
I go like, every I think six months and I
give I give blood, right, and every single time they
put the needle on me, I'm always.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, you know, and you.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
See the blood coming out, and it's a scary thing.
They're taking something out of your body.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
You know.

Speaker 7 (28:14):
You know, or when you're getting just a flu shot,
they're putting something into your body.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
You know, that's foreign. It's just so weird.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I mean, I haven't been injected since the vaccines, and
I remember the anxiety just to build up to being
stuck by a needle. It's just it's just like, uh.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well see there you go. Heard that that visual really work?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Then? Yeah it did. But these like ten thousand needles
on their back without even trying to find.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
A bit better. It's on her neck too, I think,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
I guess yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
That's even Morri got more nerves in there. Back can
probably handle most damage. But Jesus Christ, your neck.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
What if they hit a bone?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
This part, one of my favorite parts about the music
video is very simple. You know, a shot of her.
What shoes you wearing? Louis your your shoe? Guy?

Speaker 8 (28:57):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (28:57):
I don't you know?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Just wearing white sneakers, right, and you know, you see
it walking on this hallway, you know, this apartment hallway,
and and all of a sudden it just begins to
drag and almost like throat, very simple effect, right, and.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
There's got some dance moves too, right, some steps and stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, And to me it's just like just how simple
that is and yet horrifying that is just to see
it kind of getting slowly dragged on your tipp becoes.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
That was really well, like you're in and out of
like being possessed almost.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, but I thought that was like to me, that's
one of the more the scenes in the video that
really left an impression.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Right, because you only really see the bottom, yeah, part
of her. Yeah, you don't even see her thighs.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's just her, right, And the then next scene is like,
you know, you see a shot of her face, but
it's you know, just her kind of floating towards you.
So like imagine the foot just basically just like she's hovering,
you know, but dragging her toes on the floor.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
That's kind of Also, there's double vocals, right, you got
the regular vocal and then the.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, there's a one there's the story slowed down version.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yeah, that's the thing again, Right, that's kind of like
the duality of people or you know our psyche I
guess right, Yeah, you got her regular face to face
every day and then you got your Louis darker side, right,
thinking about you.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
About my past.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
Yeah, she just were like Nike, like white nikes, Right.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Like, what do you think whose idea that was? That
was Phineas or I think the double vocals?

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Oh, I don't know, that's a good question because he
wrote the song, right, both of them, they're like, I mean,
I think she she.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Took she has songwriting credit, right, but he probably produced
the producer, but like who's I you know, usually you know.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
She would for a song like that, probably him, Yeah,
the first album.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
Yeah, the thing that I don't I always hate the
like people grabbing your head and when they're like grabbing
her hair and her head and like touching her like
her throat and stuff.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
It's always kind of like freaks me out.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, that's anxiety inducing. I mean for her, I guess
she's you know, it's cool with it for the art.
To me, it's like, yeah, I have issues with like
especially strangers even for anything, you know, like even even
people like that. I'm like, you know, we're having rough
bullshit with right, none of that like no, not touching
my face a head man, it's like a.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
How often do you have rough bullshit.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Like that?

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Who are rough?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah? No?

Speaker 6 (31:15):
But the gloves freaked me out.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
The rubber gloves freaked me out, like because it's it's
always something either medical or hygienic or something, so it's
always weird.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Real, does a guy come back? You don't see him little?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Not really, I mean towards the end, but he's still
sleeping on a floor. Yeah, he basically never really got
out of bed until this whole music video.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I mean, I think the whole thing is a dream, right,
But who's his. I'd imagine it's his. It's his, and
he's dreaming about Billy.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
But I'm not getting the sense that they're together or
there's a relationship happening. I feel like she's just representing
I don't know, like an overall fear, you know, like
a general fear.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Could be you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
It could be, but it could also be you know,
like if you read the lyrics of the of the song,
you know, it could be just between the two of them.
You can even interpret it that way. But you know
it's again, it's the it's subjective.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Right very much.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
So Yeah, okay, so I.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Guess does how does it?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
It's back again to the bed and it tracks down
again to the same thing in the same scene in
the beginning. I'm sure they just recycled the.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
There's a few scenes that were going to use again.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, right, because the same angle, the same shiny earring
and all that. Yeah, you know, it's it's a short,
short and sweet, you know, perfect for a Halloween episode.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
It is it's it's pretty Yeah, it's creepy. Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
It is absolutely nerve nerve racking. So okay, that conclutes
video would be right back after these messages. Okay, fellas,
it's time for the notable YouTube comments. Utah Comoto ninety

(32:55):
three says this song causes me nightmares that I actually enjoy,
all right, okay, and at Zina Bisilla eight two six says,
why aren't you scared of me? Why do you care
for me? When we fall asleep? Puerto Rico, I was funny?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Was a connection again?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Finally, Jasmine Paz says, showed this to my sleeper, else's
demon and now he said he quits. Oh okay, thank
you guys. Verry a friend by Billie Eilish. Would you
keep it or would you throw it back?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:34):
This actually it created some genuine concern and when I
saw it it is pretty scary.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, you know, it created some dreads.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Well, the thing is, it's been so long since I
saw it last and then now you know that's recording it.
I'd kind of forgotten about it. But it's actually, yeah,
it's one of those kinds of videos, you know, but
it's the director, right, he's showing his his stuff. Man,
that's some good for a short and actually a lot
of it is kind of repetitive. It right, a lot
of the scenes, it still like proves the point. It's

(34:03):
it's yeah, it's a good keep.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Al.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
You recommend the album, Yes, Louis hasn't heard I haven't
heard it. You do recommend.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't recommend it, Okay. I was actually thinking. I
was fantasizing about yesterday. I was at the store and
I saw the album that the twelve inch vinyl target
for thirty five dollars.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
You probably saw it the target, Yes.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I did, And I'm thinking, like, hey, you know, that
would be kind of cool. Up the stakes and pop
quizzes and wherever wins wins the album.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah. Nice.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
But I'm thinking that maybe people do that in the future,
where like we actually where we're passing it, come up
with a prize for whoever wins the pop quiz, you know,
some bullshit prize or whatever. But I think it'll be fun. Right,
I'm gonna raise the stakes in the whole popwaz thing.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
You won't know what the prize, but you don't know the.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Prizes until it's over, right, Like so so right, and
start thinking about what episode.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
The prize is like my sleep for.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Then then that's a that's a twile episode if I
ever heard of one.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
He doesn't, he.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Doesn't work gloves.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
He's very unsand.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Gross.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
It's one of those black clubs that you love so much.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
It's a white clove service then right, right?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Not about you?

Speaker 7 (35:09):
Oh no, no, this I like this video and I
like the artist, so like, you know, this is a
good keep.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
This is a very well made video.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, one of our better ones, better modern ones to.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Exactly had you seen it before? No? How about you?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Wow? Okay that's good then right, it's fresh, Yeah, indeed.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
And as for me, yeah, there's definitely a keeper. I mean,
I'm a fishing out of horror movies. I love you know,
I love the tropes even though they're tired. And this move,
this music video actually introduced a few things that are
actually very wow, like made me still say wow after
decades of watching horror movies in my life. It's necessarily
a gross out or it would make me get restless sleep,

(35:47):
But it's just that the idea of you know, just
cinematography of it. It's very technical, very simple ones too
really and yeah, the fact that these are real set
through all this and not a lot of c G
background c G. I you know, kudos to the director
on that. So yeah, definitely keeper.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
It's also it's when it's not like most of the
time when we do, uh, there's a video and it's
like a horror video. It's like a metal band or
or something like that, you know, where there's match but
that's not a horror but like but yeah, it's it's
a minimal video with a minimal song, and it's it's
a scary song in the scary video, and it's it

(36:24):
goes well together.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Yeah, very very well.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
But with that said, gentlemen, one more dream video coming
up for you. I didn't I had I didn't even
actually make the connection, which is weird. But we're gonna
we're gonna check out nineteen ninety seven food Fighters.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
Oh ever Long. Ye oh, it's a good one.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's a good video.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yeah, it's a very good video.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
But it's like a fun version of that sort of Oh.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, yeah yeah, food Fighters. Oh wow, that's cool. And
we're finally touching upon the Nirvana verse right now. All right,
so next episode we'll be doing ever Long by food Fighters.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Thank you for listening.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Guys, oh yeah, Triple Keeps, by the way, and the
cap Chain Triple Coops.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Okay, thank you for listening. We'll see you next time.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
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Speaker 2 (37:28):
I was a kid man, like, you know, I got
really sick and they were gonna inject something, you know,
on my buttock, and there was this big ass needle.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
You know, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I remember being a needle. Maybe it's my subconscious protecting
me that it was a need but seriously though, like yeah,
and I was. I was like fucking seven years old.
I was like, and then apparently the cure was in
this big ass needle. I don't know what the fuck
that they were inject me with, but it was just
it was like.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, the old time dude, it was.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
It was a analyiser, you know, fucking the model Rick Martel.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
It was like fucking gonna pump that ship on my butt.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
Well, it's one of those old school metal ones like that.
That's not like now they're like they're they're the throwaway ones, right,
but the old school ones are those metal?

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Yeah, dude, they were like horrifying.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I'm like, what the fuck is anyway, I think it's
the side of that thing that scared me more than
the actual actors, you know, just the idea they're.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Gonna you're a cure there, right.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
I mean I felt better, I guess the next day.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
So anyway, did you ever look at your records see
where they put in your butt or no?

Speaker 4 (38:33):
This beause that record is God.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I think that made me like a insufferable guy that
I am now.
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