April 20, 2025 • 51 mins
All we can say is that this show is about No Rain. Louie, Ryan & Al sets up tea for three as we talk about Blind Melon's immortal smash hit. "No Rain." Forgive us for the mispronunciation of the director's last name. It's pronounced, "BAYer" not "BUYer." That's Al's fault.
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
Chat hello, and go on to episode of one hundred
and twenty six of Throwback Music Video review Podcasts, and
tonight we will be reviewing Blind Melon's No Rain, No
Rain As a song by Blind Melon. It was released
in nineteen ninety three as the second single from the
band's self titled debut album. The song is the band's
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highest charting song, reach number twenty on the US Billboard
Hot one hundred and number one on both Billboard Album
Rock Tracks and Modern Rock Tracks charts. It proved to
be successful internationally, peaking at number one in Canada and
I'm raided in Australia. I got tariff though right when.
The music video is directed by Samuel Bayer and received
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heavy airplay on MTV. It helped propel Blind Melon to
multi platinum level. No Rain currently has one hundred and
seven million views on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
That's pretty healthy, seven million.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's raining in that one raining views.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Well would you call this video like, I mean, what
would you call this song? Like something that was kind
of a throwback to the eighties where it almost got
famous because of the video because it was out for
a while album. Yeah, I mean it's a good song.
I mean it's a catchy yeah. But they're a different
kind of band, right, they're not grunge sound wise. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well, if you're gage it just by this song, it's
very hard to kind of it's very psychedelic, yeah, and
they're kind of a psychedelic sort of almost a what
is that that eighties mod psych sound?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
What do they call that?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
The Paisley Paisley Underground.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Crazy underground. They're very Paisley underground.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Got because it has a sixties feel, Yeah, with this
song particularly, Yeah, because now all their songs really sound
like this, right yeah, not really really like heavy, like
not heavy but a guitar you know, kind of I
don't know, pop rock.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah, So it was like an interesting song to come
out around that time. It was if it would have
came out a little bit later with the Lives and
all that kind of stuff where it's kind of more
of a rock ballot. Yeah, I think it would have,
but it's an interesting song.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Ian it did stand out.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, that's why a lot of grunge that we were
hearing exactly, and it was it was I guess it
kind of felt like a breath of fresh air, right.
But yeah, So what's your history though with No Rain
and Blind Lemon or Melon Blind Lemon.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, that's my cover band Angels bar.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Either late fullerted of throwback eighties, throw back nineties bar.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
No.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
This song was like a fucking earworm. Man, you heard
it everywhere. It was on a loop in on k Rock.
I remember at this time, what is this, Oh we're really.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Three ninety four.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's early high school.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Early high school. So yeah, I just heard it on
the radio. I just heard it on the radio on
k Rock.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Like the other stations would play this.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
And this is probably when I was listening to kay
Rock a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, before like I got totally like, I was like,
oh man, they're just playing fucking three years down all
the time and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
You know, So when Jeddfish was serenading years right.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh there you go, all right, there we go, all right,
a little tribute to Jeddifish, who died recently.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Was he on satellite radio? He probably was, I think
he was. I think he was.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But I listened to a lot of you know, first
first Wave. Then it's always Richard Blade in there every
time I catch but no, but yeah, like yeah, I
remember blind Melon was everywhere, and I have I don't
know if you have that memory, if we shared this memory,
but one of my endearing memories of this song was
we were walking at the Monopella mall and there was
a karaoke store.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Oh yeah, by the next door to the musicians where
they sold the guitars and basses. Yeah, And we.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Were climbing out the escalator and one of the people
who worked there, it was it was a girl. She
started singing, I remember that. You were with me, yes,
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
They were like, oh hell yeah cool, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
She knows. She's just singing like I don't know it
just just picked up the microphone and it's like, oh,
I can say, just start singing the song. Advertising signing
those little karaoke machines and stuff, and I don't know,
I thought I was you know, I know that song
is already peaking up. Do think much of it?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
But that's that's the time. Is like when we were
young enough to be too afraid to go into a
guitar center. So you walk into the guitar store at
the mall that sold like PV basses and kind of
like gear, but you don't know, and you're like, oh,
this is really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We had no money, We.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Had no money. We're just like there we had enough
money to get gas to get there or however, we
you know, like that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's it. Like I lived a five dollars allowances a
week a week.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, that's like an eight hear and dollar buying power
now nowadays, right, But I didn't really, I mean besides
just from hearing it and seeing the video, which also
stood out. That's another thing that helped it, you know,
become what it is. But big part of it is
because they really didn't have a follow up with it.
You know, it was just that one song and it
was really big and you kept hearing it over and over.
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The very distinct voice it stood out from all the
you know, rock sounding harsh guitar style music at the time.
So yeah, that definitely was something different, something new.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
What I found a lot in the comments. I'm kind
of going a little bit ahead right here, but what
I did find in a lot about the comments, and
it kind of makes sense, is a lot of African
American people would commented and they said, I only listen
to hip hop, but for some reason I heard this song.
It brought in my horizon. There was like almost every
other content is like that. It kind of makes a
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lot of sense because I think maybe at that time
we were already listened to K rock, but we were
pretty early transitioning from tribe called Quest and Black Sheep.
It still listened to that kind of old stuff, you know,
and it does kind of give you a kind of
a little comfort zone before getting into more of a
rock thing because it sounds very sixties maybe like the
Beatles and stuff like that that maybe your parents listen
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to and stuff like that, you know. So it kind
of made a little more sense when I was reading
the comments, like, oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, it's an accessible K rock song, right exactly, any
if anything else, really.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, if they're playing this and then they're playing the
bass or you're and you're only barely started listening to
karoc You're like, oh, this is nice, you know, like
this guy's yelling at this guy's yelling at I.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Mean, you know, that's that's nice, that's taste.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's a nice silver platter sert exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, at least a little girl, you know, when she
sings that the baser part, it's a little more pleasant.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Oh, it was a little more inviting.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
But we have Frank Frank at you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But still you know, the lot a lot of blind Melon's,
like I guess, influence or their notorieties because of their singer.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Well, yeah, shannonhon.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Very intelligent man.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Meaning man, which we just saw a documentary.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, all I can say, which is basically a
compilation of well in sequence of because he was like
one of the first floggers I guess.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Right, seems like yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Recorded everything in his life with a with a you know,
a home cam or a handicam.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, which they turned into a documentary in twenty nineteen.
But yeah, it's all his footages from what's the what's
the time frame.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
From like nineteen ninety to ninety five.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Basically, that's a five year stretch of just home videos,
concert videos, behind the scene things.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
From before he was in Blind Melon to his death,
which is wild.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Just his person kind of like you know stories, right.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, it's a nice it's an insight because I never
really got into Blind Melton or or you know, really
got into looking up what's the story behind them and
all that. It's just, you know, to me, it's just like, oh,
it's another singer who tragically died in the nineties, because
that seemed to be like a thing, a thing, and
you know, we we idolized bands who had deadly lead
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singers as well, so it's just like another thing. But yeah,
like to see it in this kind of presentation though,
it was definitely something to see him.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You know, he seems like a humble.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Guy, very well meaning guy. Yeah, you know, not perfect
of course, but very talented, just straight up has an
instinct for songwriting, amazing lyricist. Like I was reading some
of his lyrics, I'm like, wow, man, this guy's a
poet and paired along with falsetto and you know, his
falsetto voice, and.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
He's got the look, you know, and he was around
with the right people too.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Right, right, and you know he seems to have nice bandmates.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
No controversies, you know, like everybody just did their own thing, right.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
They were really just focused.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They hated it though when they weren't on the there
was the stone.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Right, wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
I mean that's a classic you know band trope, right right.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
They saying gets all the glory.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I guess this is like around the time when like
also like Blues Traveler was around kind of that kind
of stuff too, so.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
They collaborate, right, yeah, I think played oh yeah, Blossoms.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yeah, there was a couple like they had that like
kind of psychedelic thing, but they were rock blues, the
kind of country a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Guys, who are they again? County there's County Crows.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
We hated kind of across the krash dummy.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Pross dummies asylum like these are the you know, it's
it's almost that genre, the adult contemporary like borderlining, you
know what I mean. Like it's it's definitely rock. It's
definitely played in rock stations across the nation. But at
the same time it was a new version of that, yeah,
because it could also kind of fit into that pop
rock adult contemporary, which is not necessarily all pure rock stations.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, so they brought in the you know, their their audience.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah yeah, they brought in like a pop rock kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, and even touring, right, I mean they toured with
the Lenny Kravits. I mean that's yeah, you know, I
mean they were able to fit into yeah, different scenes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, they were in you know, it would Stock ninety four.
That was that was a pretty big That was a
huge friend. They went on European tours.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
That's the Lenny Kravitz of it all is like a
big thing. You always forget about him because he was
also like a sixties kind of.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Throwback donkey sixty seventies kind of feel, a.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Little psych that's right. Yeah, So like it was kind
of around and I mean Lenny Kravitz was huge.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But when that scene started to become more mainstream, you
know what I mean, like more and more people were like,
oh okay, because back then it was just pop music,
pop music, pop music, eighties or then rap I guess right,
right a lot, but this kind of had some crossover. Yeah,
and it was inviting a lot more, you know, it
was widening the audience.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
It's an interesting time for music.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It really was.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
There was so much stuff to listen to, and.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We're not even counting all the underground stuff that was happening.
Just what was like played and like listen on the radio.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
On the radio.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I feel like, look in our high school. When
we were in high schoolhen this came out right, It
wasn't like for teens. It was like I said, yeah,
it was more like yeah, it was more there, adult contemporary.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
It was kind of borderlining in.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That because their fans weren't you know. I mean there
was young people, of course, but like they were they
were like college age, right, Yeah, Like I didn't think
that all they sucked, especially at that time when I
was so critical and gatekeeping. Right, as I mentioned in
our last episode, somehow blind Mellon didn't bother me. But
when I when I did hear the singer, I'm like,
oh man.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
This sucks. But did you time it got to you that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It didn't affect me? Like how It's weird because I
don't know much about them, But at the same time, like,
I'm not surprised that he ohdeed, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Because after watching the documentary or before before this, way,
before this back in the nineties when I first served
his death and then I was, oh, yeah, he's know,
I just I don't know, he just seem like a junkie.
My prejudice ass, you know, just because he was like
a kind of psyche kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Maybe maybe you got you gotta imagine like I still
lived the sheltered world, you know, and he cut his
hair again. But even though he cut his hair, to me,
I've always visualized him as that that hippie he was like,
you know, he was higher las creation.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
When you watched the video, he's kind of like it
looks like he's almost kind of out of it too.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I don't know if he's coming down already during the
shoot or not.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Again, kind of almost typical of you know, if somebody
would make fun of that kind of look and act
right like always drug dad and that kind of.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Well, he's like Alison's he looks like what's his name
from the Young Ones, right, Young Ones?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, I think it's more like the hippie.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Yeah, the hippie kind of he did.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
They did a lot on that.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Sure, But when you see him, like when he's younger,
and like when you go back to the documentary, he
was always kind of just the same because like where
he comes from, that's just how you dress, you know. Like,
so he comes to Hollywood, he comes to Hollywood and
he meets which is wild. He meets the band in Hollywood,
you know, like he comes to La wanted to make it.
I guess his sister might have been here or something,
you know, And then she had a connection with Oxl
(14:16):
Rose because they went to the same high school. And
then he was able to sing back up on November
Rain No, Don't Cry, Don't Cry.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Cry, and another one and another song that wasn't really
a hit.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And then he was in the video, so it was
a cater and.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Ricky Rackman, Ricky Rackman is in that documentary to.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
All everybody, all those heathens are in that video.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Contemporaries. I don't really were there any bands kind of
like that sound.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
No, That's why when during when we were watching the
documentary and like you see the bands that they're playing
with and that, I'm like, wow, that doesn't make sense whatsoever.
But I guess back then it kind of did. Like
who else do you.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Think count kind of has?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's his voice almost, yeah, like whiny kind of you know, falsetto.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, yeah, Counting Crows, right, Blues Traveler.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I guess yes, it was a big scene that
they could easily fit into. But they didn't tour with
those guys, not really. I mean they I think they
knew each other because I know the Blues Traveler what's
his name, like performed right from one of their songs
or something.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Yeah, because yeah, there's a lot of harmonica on a
couple of their songs.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, oh yeah, true, huh okay, I guess there was.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
There was kind of that resurgence of the hippie in
the nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, like a lot of the seventies came back,
and not just a disco seventies, but also the earlier
part of it.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, the like late sixties and seventies and
people were wearing bow bottoms again, massacre.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Eras that kind of right, the hitchhiker, you know that
kind of scene.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
The forensic, the early for the lighting of a room
and they walk in, you know, the violent kind of
bloody horror of the whole.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, they happen to be a horror sevenies that.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Look yeah, easy right, easy, right?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah, that was a yeah, that was a talking about Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, so this time is a pop quiz.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, all right, let's do this. Okay, guys, So since this,
we're gonna talk about the video. It's about the classic
b girl, right, that's right. She's just looking for her friends.
She finds some beads. You know, there's SNL things with
Chris Chris Farley. So I'm gonna give you a bee quiz.
(16:26):
Here we go, guys about be trivia?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
All right, it might get a be in this.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, if you get a beer above, you guys are good.
Question one? What is royal jelly? Hey, sweat from a
queen bee? B A protein rich? Be pollen secretion see
secretion from a flower or stem? Are the special honey
fed to the larvae to determine the bee sex?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Just for everybody?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Is for everybody.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Let's good to the I think it might be the
protein rich. It's good with B.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, B as well, protein rich, be solutionary guys, you
guys are right.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, Now there's a lot of brain boosting supplements with
royal jelly.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Exactly, royal jelly.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Want to increase your load, increase your brain loads?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You drink some royal jelly?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
About green jelly? You guys are.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
How many eyes do it be? Does A behalf A six, B, five,
C two R D four let's.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Go with six.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I'm going with six because they're hexagon.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
All right, that's a good answer, but it's wrong. Oh
it's actually five. It's weird, right, weird, fine, you would
think because they're so perfect with their hives.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But oh, okay, five eyes.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
How many species of bees are there? A about five thousand,
B about forty thousand, see fewer than twelve thousand are
D more than twenty thousand.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Species of be species of bees with fewer than twelve CE.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, I'm gonna aways B for bees.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
That's wrong, You guys are both wrong. It's actually more
than twenty thousand, speedies, there's that many.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Types of bees. Really, it's hard to believe.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
How I got these answers from the Encyclopedia Britannica. So
if you have any you know who to email.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Sounds like b propaganda to.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Number four, How much honey does the honey bee make
its lifetime? Hey one twelfth the teaspoon, B one teaspoon, CE,
one tablespoon, are D one.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Leader just one B one B it's lifetime lifetime?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Leta rocola.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm gonna go with tablespoon.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Tablespoon, Okay, I'm going with one teaspoon.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
What do you use it? Both wrong? It's one twelfth
the teaspoon.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
That's it. That's why there's so many of them.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Thanks, right.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
They work as a team, kind of like a hive.
Number five, where do most bees collect pollen? A? Their wings,
b their antennae or c. Their back legs.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Can't be the wings they buzz too much. Five. I'm
gonna go their back legs.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Okay, it's back legs. It is back legs.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, that's why they are those back thick thighs when
they're flying away the yats going. Number six, How wide
is the largest bees wingspan? A point one seven inch
B one and one half inch, C four inches r
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D two point five inches.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
That's horrifying.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Imagine that's huge.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I'm gonna go with two point five the last one. D.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I go with the one and a half.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
No, it's two point five, right, you got to correct.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And have you seen those carpenter bees there? Huge they're shoot,
they're all black ones like that they're like like.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
With that big that's horrifying.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Their wing they're.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Working on my roof right now.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
How many times does a bees larvae shed its skin?
So they did you know that they shared their skin?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I did not know that.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Okay, well they have a metamorphosis kind of like a butterfly,
but into a B. A eight times B ten times,
C twenty two times r D five times.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
I'll go with twenty two times.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
They're both wrong. It's five, just like they're high whoa.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
For each? I guess exactly.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
What is the only continent where bees do not live? A? Africa,
B Europe see Australia. Are d Antarctica?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well there's africanized bees, right, Yeah, they're not. Originally they
got africanized. They went to school, they had their degrees.
I am going to.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Antarctica, isn't They're antarcticized.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
The penguin bees.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
That the living that's right, So no, I gotta go
do Antarctica.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I guess it both correct. Yeah, how to give you
guys a softball?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I've been slumping. I'm seeing it right now.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Here we go the last one? What is the dance
called that honey bees used as communication? A wiggle dance,
B the buzz dance? See the squiggle dance? Are d
the waggle dance. There's wiggle and then there's waggle.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Wait, what's the difference, free point.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah, that's there's it's either right or it's wrong. That's
the difference.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I tell you. Okay, wiggle waggle. What's the other one?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Okay, so it's wiggle, it's buzz, it's squiggle, and it's waggle.
This is the most important question ever on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Waggle. I'm going with wiggle.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
It is waggle, waggle. That is waggle waggle.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That is there you go.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
But that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
That's all the bees.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I learned some new stuff. I didn't know if five
eyes five eyes? Yeah, wait, more than twenty thousand species
of bees? Crazy, right, how's that possible?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Maybe just the colors and you know certain Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I thought for sure that would be like in science books.
But I'm like trying to remember.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Coppying their bee bumblebee. That's it.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
It's ober honey bees.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Right, yeah, no transformer servia about bumble bee?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
And oh I should have brought one. I didn't think
it a point. Who did the voice for bumble bee?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Okay, we'll be right back for some music video. Discussion.
All right, that's not what the music video for No Rain.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
You guys remember the video when you saw it?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yes, okay, I remember the video, but I don't remember,
maybe because it was too loud with mab in here
where she performs and then people kind of like mock her.
Oh I remember, Yeah, I never got that part, which
is kind of strange. At least I don't remember really
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been a classic thing that
they would have cut out, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
For the video, which you would think, right, yeah, but
that's so integral and the and yeah, it's important otherwise
it wouldn't, you know, make sense. That's why she travels
and buzzes around.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I mean in the video though, she does kind of
show her try to show her qualities to a bunch
of people and to kind of just like shun her.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
And then I think, yeah, that's the point, right.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
The point.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So it's kind of like it could be redundant, but
I still like the idea of the beginning.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's a good setup. Yeah, it's definitely a good setup.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
So, you know, speaking of the video, of course, we
have the big girl what's her name, Shannon Heather, Heather.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Her name, Yeah, and she's an Instagram a family of
she has like a full family. Now we're all old.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Born in Orange County, California, guys, not too far from here. No,
for the Little Princess, Balls of Fury, she was in
Balls of Fury, Beautitian and the Beast and yeah, and
then she was in this video. She was actually in
a lot of things though.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, Like I think there was like she talked about,
you know, like auditioning for this one. Yeah, and she
was like the last person.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
She was also in the weird A video, right, Yeah,
doing the same bit, right.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
The idea of her being that character or just in general,
I think that's a good part of you know, making
this the success of it and contributing a success.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But I think she really swung the roll up because
she looked so much like the cover album, right.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
The cover album was supposed to be the sister of
the Drummer, right from a place she did back in
the seventies seventies, And then they were like chilling out,
hanging out, right, and one of the people say, hey,
he looks it.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Was like on the wall right of the house, like
the picture.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
It's like it would be cool to have. This is
a cover, right, and so they did into a cover.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
This will blue mind bro like and I'm shocked because
me included. We're like, I thought they were the same
person person.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
She got casted, and I.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Think she was like the first person they saw and
they're like, that's it.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
We got her when they saw her.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, they did like kind of like a casting and
like she was the first one and they got her.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
So yeah, so she is performing, right, I mean clearly
you don't see the audience.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
She's on the stage was by herself. That's the word
part too.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
And she's doing her little tappy dancing recital right yeah,
and the people just like I don't know, started mocking her.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
She finishes, and they like there's some murmurs and some
laughing at her with their words being said like you suck.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
They're just like, oh, be better, better, be better, you
got it. You need some royal jelly.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That sucks, right, I mean that nothing else like breaks
my heart when someone who's trying their best out there and.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Their parents right, their parents right, didn't stand up for her.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I know she'll end up like Maxine and like.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
In the Triple X scene or yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
The Triple X Maxine.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So she she leaves the place wherever that place was,
and she starts to wander about.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
And trying to find people that will like her dancing La.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
She's kind of you know, walking around strangers and most
of them are like city people, right street people like.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, I can't tell.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I mean I didn't find it IMDb for this video
or I am what's the video on ee bat? I
didn't see that, but there has to be one because
this guy's a really famous director. He directed Smells like
Teen Spirit Samuel Bayer, and he did a lot of
a lot of videos. I mean he was like the
guy to go do for videos, which is crazy. Like also,
(26:23):
when they recorded the album, they the producer they got
it was like from Pearl Jam.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So like Capitol Records was really pushing them. They thought
they found the next big thing, which they did. This
is a song was huge, but just interesting that they
got full support, you know, they were going big with them.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, there was a like I think I was reading
it in the comments or a Reddit comment or something
that this person met the band. She saw him perform
live this before they got big, and she said that,
you know, you guys are really good, you know, like
I hope you guys.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Really make it.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And then I think one of the band members tell
him like, oh, just wait a couple of months, you'll
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Because he's just or that Capital rug is going to
push him.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
To the moon.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So and it did. Yeah, shows you that the influence
with these record labels.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Right yeah, yeah. I mean they got a pretty good
deal for being like having a four or five song EP,
I mean a demo.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Right, they barely scraped the yeah going.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
And they got you know, five hundred thousand dollars. You know,
it's like, hey man, that's pretty.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Good, you know, nineteen ninety something money.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, because I think they know the writings on the
wall on like Okay, this is the next big genre
that people will want to clamor to, and it.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Kind of was.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
There was a lot of especially that kind of more
friendly you know, you're to get more a little bit
more parents, not something a little bit older. Yeah, the
college crowd. Yeah, you like the people who are all
angsty who aren't listening to Irvana. You're going to get
these other other people.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Well, also like the Lollapaluza crowd, the Woodstock ninety four crowd,
like those kind of like neo hippie whatever that is.
At that time, you know you're.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Going to get those people indeed, in need.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
She meets a few more character and she continues to
do her dance and they're.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
All just kind of like looking at her like what
the fuck?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
You know, not very impressed. The same kind of reaction
as the recital.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Right right now.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
They're not interested, but at least they're not like booing
or no, there they watched or watching, but there's like
the guy at the bus stout with her a little bit, Yeah,
but who.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Has no teeth.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
They're interested, but again.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Do you think that happy these guys are real actors
or the actual vagrant?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
There are people, there's street people. They're actually yeah, I
think they paid him a couple of bucks. Hey, you know,
we just s she was shooting video.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Can you just like hanging out?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
It kind of looks like that, yeah, yeah, well you can.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Tell from their expression they're really acting. Yeah, and they're
just like kind of like do I just stand here
or what?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
You just watch her and they're just like what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
But really, it was only what two three scenes of
that yeah, oh okay. There was another scene where there
was like a younger kid and a couple more adults,
like on a sidewalk and she was doing it.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Remember that there's a bunch of storefronts. Yeah, she's actually
doing the full East l A or something, trying to.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Work it like, yes, yeah, the Leado Hotel.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
There, that's right, yeah, in the background.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Yeah, it's like, oh, there's the Leado.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
So there are a couple of scenes a lot of
memories in the Leado.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
But they're doing that, and then she goes into like
a existential crisis when she's sitting on the floor and
just kind of like hitting herself kind of and kind
of frustrated that no one's getting her something like that, Right.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I mean, throughout all this it's interspice with the band
playing in this beautiful valley field with the Classics blowing
out bright yeah filter filter, you know, as in the
back it looks like freaking the Windows ninety eight screen
or screensaver. But it's so crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Actually, when you watch his VHS recordings of the video
being shot compared to the actually you're like, whoa, what
a differences? So crazy? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It was it was like oversaturated yeah, background, it was
beautiful though, It's really nice.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
But that's the that was the video. But that's where
like a lot of like oversaturation.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well like a lot of bands, like especially if you
buy like the Rolling Stone or Spin magazines, that's the
pictures you kind of see the bands back then. I
remember when Lush was big, a lot of their pictures
were that kind of.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Like blowing out super white.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Superd red, and super blue.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Like the primary colors are just coming out, like yes, right.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So yeah, then she goes through this gate. You know,
it's already Windows xpeed out, and but.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
At this point it's it's it's not a real background anymore, right, right,
studio Maybe yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It looks like she she got if she was in
the green screening screen.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah, but the weird thing is is on his VHS
you see all the other dancers right out, So maybe
they just put like a weird thing in the background.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Just for that gate scene though that's because the gate's gone.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah right, yeah, but yeah, so she finds a lot
of you know, like minded hive people, right you, people
of different backgrounds and.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Already frolicking and just having a good time. And yes,
you're right, it was a multi genderci cultural.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And they're just having a great time dancing, doing their thing.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
The craziest thing about watching this video now is I'm like, wow,
like I don't think they can make this video right now.
I mean there's men with like b skirts on, and
I'm sure someone's gonna complain about that, and like the
little girl hanging out with hanging out with like older
homeless men, and someone's gonna complain.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Well, the homeless problem in LA.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
But you know, it's just like it's that's a I
was like, that's right, this is this is this.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Thing is like everything, so like we we didn't we
took all that shit for granted. How just how free
we are from any fear?
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Yeah, just we're so backed with that now.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Yeah, it's so crazy. Yeah, because when you I remember
too back then and you're like, oh, you see all
the men dressed up like them too?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
And then I didn't think twice about.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Back then, not at all. Yeah, not even that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So weird.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yeah, that's in theater, I got it. But she finds
everybody and they all start dancing and they let her
do her dance and they're all going crazy for her,
and they pick her up and you know, she found
her her people, she's been accepted.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, and the band's all rocking out as well, because
that's like they're in the climax of the song, right.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
But in contrast to the lyrics, which is, Yeah, it's
kind of strange because even the riff, right, the guitar
riff is very you know, it seems pretty happy for sunny,
you know, like something hopeful.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
But the lyrics are about like being depressed, right yeah,
and not want to get out of bed never.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, you're just like, you know what, why it should
be raining so that I could so that I can
feel right about being you know, like yeah, yeah, it's like,
you know, you want to feel down and you want
your environment to also be to match that too.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Also, the interesting about the lyrics that I got too
is like the whole song is about I need you
to be with me so I could feel better, not
like I'm going to make you better. You're going to
make me better? Did you get you get that to you? Yeah,
come lay with me and we'll have it made and
all that stuff like that. Yeah, it's a it's a
very interesting song because of that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, I mean, I'm trying to say I'm trying to
marry the two of the video and then the lyrics
in the song. I guess you could in some way
twist it where she needs others to make her feel.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
She needs like her to feel it.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, people like.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Her to kind of make her life be meaningful at
least have some sense of, you know, being belonging, you.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Know, yeah, because she feels like she's alone.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
She's alone, defa. But what's strange is there are no
kids in the video, right, there's no other kids, no
other kids that would normally, in normal circumstances be like,
oh yeah, I like what you're doing or it's cute.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You know, I want to do that too.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
But I guess what they're maybe I don't know, but
maybe they're trying to show like the world is harsh, right, Like.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
It's hard to be different now. You could be different,
you could be different back then, but you can't be
different now, right, because she's the new one and they're
all kind of the same age sort of, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, that was a choice though, to have adult adult
bees speak. But I know they want to tie it
up to the picture of the the album cover, but yeah,
that is.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
But you know, as a videographer, and because I don't
know how the band felt about the video. I mean,
I feel like they were okay with it, but they
have to come up with some sort of a narrative
or at least right to try to kind of you know,
the album cover. Everything was to be one thing, you know,
I didn't have a narrative thread throughout the right happy
ending to a sad song if you really, you know,
look at it, right.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I don't know. I've never been high on acid on anything,
so I don't even know how one can actually function.
I mean, I've been high in mushrooms.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
But why why you bring the accid thing?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Because he was apparently high on ealysis when he made this,
when he was when he was not a mating during
the shooting.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
The shooting, Okay, okay, oh really I didn't know that.
I thought it was just that show when he's wearing
the show.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
During that too, also that too, But yeah, apparently he
was also high on an LSD whiles filming this one.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I can kind of see him because his movements were
a little bit, you know, kind of like he's kind
of he wants to get jump out of his skin.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Right, But I just thought I was just you know,
like a charismatic front man mannerisms or something.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Right, or also playing up for the camera, right, have
some sort of a movement.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, it's an act, but I guess, you know, like
the director knows what he's trying to do.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
But also seeing that documentary and his performance in the
Woodstock ninety four and hey, clearly he's comfortable being you know,
he's on something and still be himself and just kind
of you know, perform as an artist. Right right, there's
no I didn't see any changes or differences. But at
the end of the video he's shirtless. Yeah, where his shirt?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh yeah, you got you gotta get high.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
You got to show off those picks.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Right, it's that seeming valley heat man, you gotta you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Gotta see me valleys. Right. But yeah, so again concludes
in a very high note, very positive.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Is it is?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It is, and then matches the you know the violo. Yeah,
the old vibe of the song and the lyrics are
very clear too. Huh, like you you really understand like
he's saying.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yeah, he's a good lyricist for sure.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Did you think he wrote the lyrics or the bass player?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, it's the bass player's experience from him and his girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Okay, so yeah it is the bass player.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah. So did he write it the bass player right?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
It?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I think so, yeah, But I'm sure he had his
I'm sure he added stuff too.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's the main story about you know, wanting to stay
in bed and like it's not raining. I think that
was all the bass players experience, his personal experience. But
then he realized, oh that that's me too. Like, I mean,
but everybody, you know, there is some you know, depressive
moments in people's lives, right, I mean.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean watching the documentary, you kind of see
his life. You know he was Shannon was you know,
his parents divorced. They had a kind of a difficult relationship.
His father was an alcoholic. In the documentary, you see
he gets busted for a dui again, gets his car
taken away. You're not gonna be a drive. His mom worked
(36:47):
at a bar. He had issues with alcohol. He couldn't
drink alcohol, Like he even said, like he could do drugs,
but he can't drink alcohol. He gets too violent. And
then you see when he does drink alcohol. The next
thing is he's getting out of jail, and then you
he talks about being you know, taking drugs at a
young age. But he was doing kind of like weed
and mushrooms and LSD and then like later on, you know,
(37:12):
he ended up dying from a cocaine overdose. So maybe
just got harder, harder and harder, you know. And I
could see that, like, you know, you start doing mushrooms
and LSD and weed and you're doing a lot of it,
you know, and then maybe you you switch over to
something and you start you did do a little too much,
you know, because it's a lot more powerful.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
You know, well you're also exposed to other people.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
You have more money to buy that, more access to
that kind of harder drugs.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, I find them in his tour bus unresponsive.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, like he's going to see I gues said, New Orleans.
When I saw Skinny Puppy, it was going to be
at that It was at that venue.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
In New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeahs oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Interesting and it's fun. They recorded that album there, to
their last album there, and he was you could see
in the documentary he just hated being there because it
was just like alcohol.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Everyone.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
He was I had to get out of here, like this.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Is yeah, there's soul lax over there with with their
you know, like you can walk out there with your
sazarax in.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
The middle of the stream.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, like you just walk out a restaurant with your
you know, they'll get your alcohol to go if you want,
right over there. That's crazy. He's like living in California.
That's just that's so foreign. Believe it, believe it or not.
Can't be seen with alcoholic beverages in a public setting.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
No ground bagging it.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
I only got that kind of treatment in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, like it's basically in Vegas, right, but over there's
like casual like, oh yeah, you know, would you like
your you know, your whisky, your whisky sour. I'm like, okay.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
But I think this like video had a depression on
a lot of people, and I think that's why you
got so popular.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Definitely, everyone's been shunned or being cast aside at some
point in their lives.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
So this really hit a button.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
And this is like when videos are still had power,
you know, like at that time, and you know TV
still played music. Yeah exactly, there's less reality shows.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I just thought real war was already happening, but it's
you know, it's slowly gnawing at Society.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
And you had kind of hippie characters in there, and
you had characters not unlike you know, someone who would
be one of these bands or something like that. You know,
so it was it kind of made sense before. Like
now it's like it's just all like people who want
to be influencers on reality shows and sometuff like that,
you know, our ex actors or something like that. You know,
it's less of reality. I mean, I'm sure that wasn't
(39:22):
for reality, but I mean it was more reality than
it kind of is now.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Oh yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, Like I mean, to me, it's like with the
boom of reality TV was Survivor, like when it's really
when it really exploded, because I remember everyone was.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Watching that show.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Those are the Big brother follow and snow.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I never watched, really didn't watch Mike White on Amazing
Race before he was he's the guy who did White Book.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh that's that's his uh, Screw of Rock. I saw
the School of Rock, not your Libra. Oh okay, I
don't know he did d White Lotus though you never
seen truck and buck sucking fuck no no, no, all right,
Well we'll be right back for some notable YouTube comment
bumming everybody else all right, so it's time for some
notable YouTube comments.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
So this was the saddest you comments my life happens.
So it's classic. You get the you get the lyrics
of the songs, and then people someone will start it,
and then people will keep adding all the lyrics at
the end of the song. That's in all of them, right, right, right,
And then you just get a lot of the I
love the song. I love the song, millions of those right,
(40:41):
But then you get the Niagara falls. My friends, here
we go from four years ago.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
It's a lot of rain going on right now.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Mariene lewis three seven seven working in a small Vietnamese
restaurant in Louisiana. A guy came in and told me
he had seven dollars to buy something to eat and
asked if he could afford anything to eat there, and
I said yes. He told me that I reminded him
of the bee girl from the video, and it made
my whole day. When I brought him food, I could
tell he hadn't had a hot meal in a long time.
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I played this song for him over the speakers and
it made him happy. He ended up telling me that
he was chronically homeless after serving in the military, and
that the song reminded him of better times. I hope
you're doing okay man, wherever you are, I wish you
many warm bowls of phu and plenty more jam sessions.
(41:30):
This is where did he go?
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Where they go?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (41:33):
So probably the Iraq War or something? Uh? Probably, Yeah,
that's a storm for your own.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
How long was This is from four years ago?
Speaker 6 (41:40):
Four years ago, so it could be Afghanistan.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
It could be a good wait, wait, it happened. I'm
saying it happened when you.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Could buy pa for less than seven dollars. So this
is probably back then. Yeah, right now is like twelve bucks?
Probably right? Yeah, So there you go. Another one from
four years ago. Russell Nuke thirty one sixty four. When
I got out of the army, I was watching TV
with my dad at his house. He was a Navy veteran,
a frog man. He sat up in his chair. At
the end of the video, he was standing and clapping.
(42:07):
He watched TV for a week waiting for the video
come back on. When it did, he jumped and hit
the recorder on the VCR and he wore that tape out.
I bought him the CD for Christmas. Some great memories
writing in his car listening to Blandy Mallon.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Oh that's interesting, that's crazy, right.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
His dad just loved it so much that he had
a record.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
On VHS and a teenager.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Yeah yeah, so I had did he at that time?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Cool and had effect on people.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Yeah? Interesting, right, this is from three years ago at
a real person, not a bot. You had to be there.
I was a little black kid in the nineties, obsessed
with hip hop and R and B, but this song
hit everyone. The nineties were a magical time. Music couldn't
have been more diverse. You could dabble in any and
every genre for multiple gems. I still love this song
(42:54):
tale today. This was a very prominent thing in the
a lot of people talking about how they were black
kids listening to hip hop music and for some reason
the song broke through. Like there was so many of them.
It was crazy someone that I'm like, I got to
add one of these to it.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
You know.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Yeah, So it was a crossover hit a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
So there were sad ones and then you know, the
nice ones were the night He still had a cool drava.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Memories for these people.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Like I hope the lady singing karaoke AT's.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Doing very well with her family and probably a grandma.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Now right, what do you think her sad story is.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I was probably like hating working at the karaoke store
was probably a bad memory. But she owned it. She sang.
She's sang pretty good.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Voice.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
No, she's just singing like a normal.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Girl, singing like she was in idle style.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
She wasn't honing it up or anything.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Also to like working in a karaokeo, So there's only
one way to sell a karaoke machine. You got to bounce.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yeah, get people who listen.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, she got it. You know when she got the
job because she has the box for it.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
That's wild. Right, At one time in every mall there
was at least one karaoke store.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Well that was the time of people buying karaoke machines.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Yeah, I mean, and you would have to buy the
CD right with.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
The tape, the minus one right where they remove the lyrics.
But it's the same exact song.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
All right, So guys, no Rain, will you keep it
or would you throw it back?
Speaker 4 (44:21):
I'm totally keeping it. Man Like.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Like I said, it's really just that one song, right, really,
that one song, that one band. I kind of actually
learned a lot more now that I'm doing the research.
But this has a little, shall I say, time capsule
in my life where you know this this song would
just out of nowhere, just play in a car right
or at the mall or wherever you were. And the
video really kind of added to memorializing that whole time
(44:45):
of my life.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
But you know what, I love the message, man.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I love the video because of the message and it's
very I love the very nineties feel. I love the
looking for a place where you need to feel comfortable
and belong and find people who understand you. And I
think that's a message that will never be lost in time.
And anybody who watches it, I think they'll definitely relate.
But yeah, I like it. I like the song is
a good song, man. The band is actually a really
(45:08):
good band, and I think they're still playing today because.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
Yeah, they're tearing at there.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
You know, they found somebody else to perform and.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
So like they found him twenty ten.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah, they're not a flash in the pan.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
They actually are very skilled musicians who know how to
craft songs that are memorable. It's just you know, they
were just lucky to have to be in that time
because it's kind of hard to fit in nowadays with
this kind of music even, you know, but yeah, this
is a key for sure.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
All right.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
As for me, Yeah, I mean I'm keeping this song.
It's iconic, you know, it's you don't think of nineties
music videos without this, Yeah, I think you're right now.
And like sam Ol Bayern and he directed the nineties
video with Smells like teen Spirits, so he had parton
two of those, you know, good like good for him,
but yeah, to me, it's like, you know, the song's
not my vibe, but I appreciate it and finding more
(45:56):
about the band while you know, researching this episode, you know,
like appreciate them way more now. So yeah, and then
this video is always I liked it back then too.
It's like, oh, oh cute, Oh she found her people.
It's so cool and everyone's just happy and all that,
and with the slow mo and it's like going to
heaven in a weird way. Right when you die, you.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Know what's wrong.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
It's not people, it's not it's not a you can
totally take that interpretation of that right.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
So to me, it's like, oh, you know, like if
there is a heaven and I do go and like
or if I ever even hell, I see my people, Yeah,
let's go. Yeah, a little suffer together or whatever.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
You guys are all like instead of beas you guys
are like wasps.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Trying to get honey out of those things. But yeah, yeah,
so you know, to me, it's like, yeah, finding a
sense of belonging. You know, at that time we were
That's what we're trying to do, right, We're all finding
somewhere to fit in, somewhere to find a sense of identity,
some sense of contributing to the world. What influence can
you do?
Speaker 6 (46:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, this this video really hammered that home. So yeah,
definitely keep it for me.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
Yeah, that's for me. This is a beautiful, like that
beautiful thing when we find a video that the song
and the and the video just kind of melt together
and they're almost like one.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
You know.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
It's it's you can't think of the song without thinking
about the video. You can't think about the video without
thinking about the song. And this song is great. Just
doing my research for this, I have had this this
song has been in my head for like two weeks.
I can't stop fucking singing it. Man, I'm walking around
work and I'm like, yeah, I don't understand, and I'm
(47:33):
whistling it. It's crazy. I found myself going into the
restrooms whistling this song. It's I'm sure my coworker is.
I think I'm crazy? Like, what is that song?
Speaker 4 (47:44):
That is no Red?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
But I should know, right, they know that song hopefully
maybe too old back in then.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
They're only listening to Kendrick Lamar now you know, no,
they're all like older people trying to be young.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
A straight fire bro, how do you do fellow kids?
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Exactly? But no, this is a it's just a great
song and great video man, so good when you do
get the videos done by like the video masters quote unquote,
you know, it's it's it's it's a lot different. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I mean it's kind of a it's a weird, like
because how semi apocalyptic spells like teen Spirit felt this right, now,
that's some range.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
But the vibe of the song are completely different exactly.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
So yeah, he went with the flow because.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
There's no distortion, is there?
Speaker 5 (48:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Not really right, It's.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Really and I think the Jangle song it is, yeah,
you know, reading some of the information also is when
they record, they wanted to be as real as clean
as possible as if they were playing it live without
any other you know, they really want to minimize any
of the effects.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
And yeah, they pulled it off.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
And at this time they were like turning with like
Neil Young too, who's like the realist of the real guys,
you know, and it's yeah, it makes that sense.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, yeah, they were geeking out in that documentary where
like Neil Young is playing one of their guitars and
my god, he's playing guitar.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
And there's a it's a tragic story too, so that
always also adds a little bit of weight to the
song and the video and stuff too, you know. So
but if anybody watched that documentary, it's all I could say.
It's free on Amazon right now.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Check it out.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Good, check out really good.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
Checkout.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
Yeah, nice one. There's a surprise waiting for you as
favorite to market for you guys.
Speaker 5 (49:29):
Al fae Is there's a mirror scene. He loves it.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
All right, Now what you got for us next time?
Speaker 2 (49:35):
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of by Me nineteen ninety three. For my next episode,
we haven't done an industrial video in a long, long,
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so now for the next episode one we will be
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Chat hello, and go on to episode of one hundred
and twenty six of Throwback Music Video review Podcasts, and
tonight we will be reviewing Blind Melon's No Rain, No
Rain As a song by Blind Melon. It was released
in nineteen ninety three as the second single from the
band's self titled debut album. The song is the band's
(01:58):
highest charting song, reach number twenty on the US Billboard
Hot one hundred and number one on both Billboard Album
Rock Tracks and Modern Rock Tracks charts. It proved to
be successful internationally, peaking at number one in Canada and
I'm raided in Australia. I got tariff though right when.
The music video is directed by Samuel Bayer and received
(02:21):
heavy airplay on MTV. It helped propel Blind Melon to
multi platinum level. No Rain currently has one hundred and
seven million views on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
That's pretty healthy, seven million.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's raining in that one raining views.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Well would you call this video like, I mean, what
would you call this song? Like something that was kind
of a throwback to the eighties where it almost got
famous because of the video because it was out for
a while album. Yeah, I mean it's a good song.
I mean it's a catchy yeah. But they're a different
kind of band, right, they're not grunge sound wise. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well, if you're gage it just by this song, it's
very hard to kind of it's very psychedelic, yeah, and
they're kind of a psychedelic sort of almost a what
is that that eighties mod psych sound?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
What do they call that?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
The Paisley Paisley Underground.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Crazy underground. They're very Paisley underground.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Got because it has a sixties feel, Yeah, with this
song particularly, Yeah, because now all their songs really sound
like this, right yeah, not really really like heavy, like
not heavy but a guitar you know, kind of I
don't know, pop rock.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah, So it was like an interesting song to come
out around that time. It was if it would have
came out a little bit later with the Lives and
all that kind of stuff where it's kind of more
of a rock ballot. Yeah, I think it would have,
but it's an interesting song.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Ian it did stand out.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, that's why a lot of grunge that we were
hearing exactly, and it was it was I guess it
kind of felt like a breath of fresh air, right.
But yeah, So what's your history though with No Rain
and Blind Lemon or Melon Blind Lemon.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, that's my cover band Angels bar.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Either late fullerted of throwback eighties, throw back nineties bar.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
No.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
This song was like a fucking earworm. Man, you heard
it everywhere. It was on a loop in on k Rock.
I remember at this time, what is this, Oh we're really.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Three ninety four.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's early high school.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Early high school. So yeah, I just heard it on
the radio. I just heard it on the radio on
k Rock.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Like the other stations would play this.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
And this is probably when I was listening to kay
Rock a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, before like I got totally like, I was like,
oh man, they're just playing fucking three years down all
the time and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
You know, So when Jeddfish was serenading years right.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh there you go, all right, there we go, all right,
a little tribute to Jeddifish, who died recently.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Was he on satellite radio? He probably was, I think
he was. I think he was.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But I listened to a lot of you know, first
first Wave. Then it's always Richard Blade in there every
time I catch but no, but yeah, like yeah, I
remember blind Melon was everywhere, and I have I don't
know if you have that memory, if we shared this memory,
but one of my endearing memories of this song was
we were walking at the Monopella mall and there was
a karaoke store.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Oh yeah, by the next door to the musicians where
they sold the guitars and basses. Yeah, And we.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Were climbing out the escalator and one of the people
who worked there, it was it was a girl. She
started singing, I remember that. You were with me, yes,
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
They were like, oh hell yeah cool, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
She knows. She's just singing like I don't know it
just just picked up the microphone and it's like, oh,
I can say, just start singing the song. Advertising signing
those little karaoke machines and stuff, and I don't know,
I thought I was you know, I know that song
is already peaking up. Do think much of it?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
But that's that's the time. Is like when we were
young enough to be too afraid to go into a
guitar center. So you walk into the guitar store at
the mall that sold like PV basses and kind of
like gear, but you don't know, and you're like, oh,
this is really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We had no money, We.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Had no money. We're just like there we had enough
money to get gas to get there or however, we
you know, like that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's it. Like I lived a five dollars allowances a
week a week.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, that's like an eight hear and dollar buying power
now nowadays, right, But I didn't really, I mean besides
just from hearing it and seeing the video, which also
stood out. That's another thing that helped it, you know,
become what it is. But big part of it is
because they really didn't have a follow up with it.
You know, it was just that one song and it
was really big and you kept hearing it over and over.
(06:38):
The very distinct voice it stood out from all the
you know, rock sounding harsh guitar style music at the time.
So yeah, that definitely was something different, something new.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
What I found a lot in the comments. I'm kind
of going a little bit ahead right here, but what
I did find in a lot about the comments, and
it kind of makes sense, is a lot of African
American people would commented and they said, I only listen
to hip hop, but for some reason I heard this song.
It brought in my horizon. There was like almost every
other content is like that. It kind of makes a
(07:07):
lot of sense because I think maybe at that time
we were already listened to K rock, but we were
pretty early transitioning from tribe called Quest and Black Sheep.
It still listened to that kind of old stuff, you know,
and it does kind of give you a kind of
a little comfort zone before getting into more of a
rock thing because it sounds very sixties maybe like the
Beatles and stuff like that that maybe your parents listen
(07:29):
to and stuff like that, you know. So it kind
of made a little more sense when I was reading
the comments, like, oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, it's an accessible K rock song, right exactly, any
if anything else, really.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, if they're playing this and then they're playing the
bass or you're and you're only barely started listening to
karoc You're like, oh, this is nice, you know, like
this guy's yelling at this guy's yelling at I.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Mean, you know, that's that's nice, that's taste.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's a nice silver platter sert exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, at least a little girl, you know, when she
sings that the baser part, it's a little more pleasant.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Oh, it was a little more inviting.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
But we have Frank Frank at you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But still you know, the lot a lot of blind Melon's,
like I guess, influence or their notorieties because of their singer.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Well, yeah, shannonhon.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Very intelligent man.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Meaning man, which we just saw a documentary.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, all I can say, which is basically a
compilation of well in sequence of because he was like
one of the first floggers I guess.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Right, seems like yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Recorded everything in his life with a with a you know,
a home cam or a handicam.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, which they turned into a documentary in twenty nineteen.
But yeah, it's all his footages from what's the what's
the time frame.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
From like nineteen ninety to ninety five.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Basically, that's a five year stretch of just home videos,
concert videos, behind the scene things.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
From before he was in Blind Melon to his death,
which is wild.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Just his person kind of like you know stories, right.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, it's a nice it's an insight because I never
really got into Blind Melton or or you know, really
got into looking up what's the story behind them and
all that. It's just, you know, to me, it's just like, oh,
it's another singer who tragically died in the nineties, because
that seemed to be like a thing, a thing, and
you know, we we idolized bands who had deadly lead
(09:23):
singers as well, so it's just like another thing. But yeah,
like to see it in this kind of presentation though,
it was definitely something to see him.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You know, he seems like a humble.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Guy, very well meaning guy. Yeah, you know, not perfect
of course, but very talented, just straight up has an
instinct for songwriting, amazing lyricist. Like I was reading some
of his lyrics, I'm like, wow, man, this guy's a
poet and paired along with falsetto and you know, his
falsetto voice, and.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
He's got the look, you know, and he was around
with the right people too.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Right, right, and you know he seems to have nice bandmates.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
No controversies, you know, like everybody just did their own thing, right.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
They were really just focused.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They hated it though when they weren't on the there
was the stone.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Right, wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
I mean that's a classic you know band trope, right right.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
They saying gets all the glory.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I guess this is like around the time when like
also like Blues Traveler was around kind of that kind
of stuff too, so.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
They collaborate, right, yeah, I think played oh yeah, Blossoms.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yeah, there was a couple like they had that like
kind of psychedelic thing, but they were rock blues, the
kind of country a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Guys, who are they again? County there's County Crows.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
We hated kind of across the krash dummy.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Pross dummies asylum like these are the you know, it's
it's almost that genre, the adult contemporary like borderlining, you
know what I mean. Like it's it's definitely rock. It's
definitely played in rock stations across the nation. But at
the same time it was a new version of that, yeah,
because it could also kind of fit into that pop
rock adult contemporary, which is not necessarily all pure rock stations.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, so they brought in the you know, their their audience.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah yeah, they brought in like a pop rock kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, and even touring, right, I mean they toured with
the Lenny Kravits. I mean that's yeah, you know, I
mean they were able to fit into yeah, different scenes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, they were in you know, it would Stock ninety four.
That was that was a pretty big That was a
huge friend. They went on European tours.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
That's the Lenny Kravitz of it all is like a
big thing. You always forget about him because he was
also like a sixties kind of.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Throwback donkey sixty seventies kind of feel, a.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Little psych that's right. Yeah, So like it was kind
of around and I mean Lenny Kravitz was huge.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But when that scene started to become more mainstream, you
know what I mean, like more and more people were like,
oh okay, because back then it was just pop music,
pop music, pop music, eighties or then rap I guess right,
right a lot, but this kind of had some crossover. Yeah,
and it was inviting a lot more, you know, it
was widening the audience.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
It's an interesting time for music.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It really was.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
There was so much stuff to listen to, and.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We're not even counting all the underground stuff that was happening.
Just what was like played and like listen on the radio.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
On the radio.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I feel like, look in our high school. When
we were in high schoolhen this came out right, It
wasn't like for teens. It was like I said, yeah,
it was more like yeah, it was more there, adult contemporary.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
It was kind of borderlining in.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That because their fans weren't you know. I mean there
was young people, of course, but like they were they
were like college age, right, Yeah, Like I didn't think
that all they sucked, especially at that time when I
was so critical and gatekeeping. Right, as I mentioned in
our last episode, somehow blind Mellon didn't bother me. But
when I when I did hear the singer, I'm like,
oh man.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
This sucks. But did you time it got to you that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It didn't affect me? Like how It's weird because I
don't know much about them, But at the same time, like,
I'm not surprised that he ohdeed, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Because after watching the documentary or before before this, way,
before this back in the nineties when I first served
his death and then I was, oh, yeah, he's know,
I just I don't know, he just seem like a junkie.
My prejudice ass, you know, just because he was like
a kind of psyche kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Maybe maybe you got you gotta imagine like I still
lived the sheltered world, you know, and he cut his
hair again. But even though he cut his hair, to me,
I've always visualized him as that that hippie he was like,
you know, he was higher las creation.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
When you watched the video, he's kind of like it
looks like he's almost kind of out of it too.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I don't know if he's coming down already during the
shoot or not.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Again, kind of almost typical of you know, if somebody
would make fun of that kind of look and act
right like always drug dad and that kind of.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Well, he's like Alison's he looks like what's his name
from the Young Ones, right, Young Ones?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, I think it's more like the hippie.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Yeah, the hippie kind of he did.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
They did a lot on that.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Sure, But when you see him, like when he's younger,
and like when you go back to the documentary, he
was always kind of just the same because like where
he comes from, that's just how you dress, you know. Like,
so he comes to Hollywood, he comes to Hollywood and
he meets which is wild. He meets the band in Hollywood,
you know, like he comes to La wanted to make it.
I guess his sister might have been here or something,
you know, And then she had a connection with Oxl
(14:16):
Rose because they went to the same high school. And
then he was able to sing back up on November
Rain No, Don't Cry, Don't Cry.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Cry, and another one and another song that wasn't really
a hit.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And then he was in the video, so it was
a cater and.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Ricky Rackman, Ricky Rackman is in that documentary to.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
All everybody, all those heathens are in that video.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Contemporaries. I don't really were there any bands kind of
like that sound.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
No, That's why when during when we were watching the
documentary and like you see the bands that they're playing
with and that, I'm like, wow, that doesn't make sense whatsoever.
But I guess back then it kind of did. Like
who else do you.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Think count kind of has?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's his voice almost, yeah, like whiny kind of you know, falsetto.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, yeah, Counting Crows, right, Blues Traveler.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I guess yes, it was a big scene that
they could easily fit into. But they didn't tour with
those guys, not really. I mean they I think they
knew each other because I know the Blues Traveler what's
his name, like performed right from one of their songs
or something.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Yeah, because yeah, there's a lot of harmonica on a
couple of their songs.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, oh yeah, true, huh okay, I guess there was.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
There was kind of that resurgence of the hippie in
the nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, like a lot of the seventies came back,
and not just a disco seventies, but also the earlier
part of it.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, the like late sixties and seventies and
people were wearing bow bottoms again, massacre.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Eras that kind of right, the hitchhiker, you know that
kind of scene.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
The forensic, the early for the lighting of a room
and they walk in, you know, the violent kind of
bloody horror of the whole.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, they happen to be a horror sevenies that.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Look yeah, easy right, easy, right?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah, that was a yeah, that was a talking about Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, so this time is a pop quiz.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, all right, let's do this. Okay, guys, So since this,
we're gonna talk about the video. It's about the classic
b girl, right, that's right. She's just looking for her friends.
She finds some beads. You know, there's SNL things with
Chris Chris Farley. So I'm gonna give you a bee quiz.
(16:26):
Here we go, guys about be trivia?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
All right, it might get a be in this.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, if you get a beer above, you guys are good.
Question one? What is royal jelly? Hey, sweat from a
queen bee? B A protein rich? Be pollen secretion see
secretion from a flower or stem? Are the special honey
fed to the larvae to determine the bee sex?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Just for everybody?
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Is for everybody.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Let's good to the I think it might be the
protein rich. It's good with B.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, B as well, protein rich, be solutionary guys, you
guys are right.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, Now there's a lot of brain boosting supplements with
royal jelly.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Exactly, royal jelly.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Want to increase your load, increase your brain loads?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You drink some royal jelly?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
About green jelly? You guys are.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
How many eyes do it be? Does A behalf A six, B, five,
C two R D four let's.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Go with six.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I'm going with six because they're hexagon.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
All right, that's a good answer, but it's wrong. Oh
it's actually five. It's weird, right, weird, fine, you would
think because they're so perfect with their hives.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But oh, okay, five eyes.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
How many species of bees are there? A about five thousand,
B about forty thousand, see fewer than twelve thousand are
D more than twenty thousand.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Species of be species of bees with fewer than twelve CE.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, I'm gonna aways B for bees.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
That's wrong, You guys are both wrong. It's actually more
than twenty thousand, speedies, there's that many.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Types of bees. Really, it's hard to believe.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
How I got these answers from the Encyclopedia Britannica. So
if you have any you know who to email.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Sounds like b propaganda to.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Number four, How much honey does the honey bee make
its lifetime? Hey one twelfth the teaspoon, B one teaspoon, CE,
one tablespoon, are D one.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Leader just one B one B it's lifetime lifetime?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Leta rocola.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm gonna go with tablespoon.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Tablespoon, Okay, I'm going with one teaspoon.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
What do you use it? Both wrong? It's one twelfth
the teaspoon.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
That's it. That's why there's so many of them.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Thanks, right.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
They work as a team, kind of like a hive.
Number five, where do most bees collect pollen? A? Their wings,
b their antennae or c. Their back legs.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Can't be the wings they buzz too much. Five. I'm
gonna go their back legs.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Okay, it's back legs. It is back legs.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, that's why they are those back thick thighs when
they're flying away the yats going. Number six, How wide
is the largest bees wingspan? A point one seven inch
B one and one half inch, C four inches r
(19:45):
D two point five inches.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
That's horrifying.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Imagine that's huge.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I'm gonna go with two point five the last one. D.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I go with the one and a half.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
No, it's two point five, right, you got to correct.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And have you seen those carpenter bees there? Huge they're shoot,
they're all black ones like that they're like like.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
With that big that's horrifying.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Their wing they're.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Working on my roof right now.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
How many times does a bees larvae shed its skin?
So they did you know that they shared their skin?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I did not know that.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Okay, well they have a metamorphosis kind of like a butterfly,
but into a B. A eight times B ten times,
C twenty two times r D five times.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
I'll go with twenty two times.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
They're both wrong. It's five, just like they're high whoa.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
For each? I guess exactly.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
What is the only continent where bees do not live? A? Africa,
B Europe see Australia. Are d Antarctica?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well there's africanized bees, right, Yeah, they're not. Originally they
got africanized. They went to school, they had their degrees.
I am going to.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Antarctica, isn't They're antarcticized.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
The penguin bees.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
That the living that's right, So no, I gotta go
do Antarctica.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I guess it both correct. Yeah, how to give you
guys a softball?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I've been slumping. I'm seeing it right now.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Here we go the last one? What is the dance
called that honey bees used as communication? A wiggle dance,
B the buzz dance? See the squiggle dance? Are d
the waggle dance. There's wiggle and then there's waggle.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Wait, what's the difference, free point.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah, that's there's it's either right or it's wrong. That's
the difference.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I tell you. Okay, wiggle waggle. What's the other one?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Okay, so it's wiggle, it's buzz, it's squiggle, and it's waggle.
This is the most important question ever on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Waggle. I'm going with wiggle.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
It is waggle, waggle. That is waggle waggle.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That is there you go.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
But that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
That's all the bees.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I learned some new stuff. I didn't know if five
eyes five eyes? Yeah, wait, more than twenty thousand species
of bees? Crazy, right, how's that possible?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Maybe just the colors and you know certain Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I thought for sure that would be like in science books.
But I'm like trying to remember.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Coppying their bee bumblebee. That's it.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
It's ober honey bees.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Right, yeah, no transformer servia about bumble bee?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
And oh I should have brought one. I didn't think
it a point. Who did the voice for bumble bee?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Okay, we'll be right back for some music video. Discussion.
All right, that's not what the music video for No Rain.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
You guys remember the video when you saw it?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yes, okay, I remember the video, but I don't remember,
maybe because it was too loud with mab in here
where she performs and then people kind of like mock her.
Oh I remember, Yeah, I never got that part, which
is kind of strange. At least I don't remember really
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been a classic thing that
they would have cut out, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
For the video, which you would think, right, yeah, but
that's so integral and the and yeah, it's important otherwise
it wouldn't, you know, make sense. That's why she travels
and buzzes around.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I mean in the video though, she does kind of
show her try to show her qualities to a bunch
of people and to kind of just like shun her.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
And then I think, yeah, that's the point, right.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
The point.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So it's kind of like it could be redundant, but
I still like the idea of the beginning.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
It's a good setup. Yeah, it's definitely a good setup.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
So, you know, speaking of the video, of course, we
have the big girl what's her name, Shannon Heather, Heather.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Her name, Yeah, and she's an Instagram a family of
she has like a full family. Now we're all old.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Born in Orange County, California, guys, not too far from here. No,
for the Little Princess, Balls of Fury, she was in
Balls of Fury, Beautitian and the Beast and yeah, and
then she was in this video. She was actually in
a lot of things though.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, Like I think there was like she talked about,
you know, like auditioning for this one. Yeah, and she
was like the last person.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
She was also in the weird A video, right, Yeah,
doing the same bit, right.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
The idea of her being that character or just in general,
I think that's a good part of you know, making
this the success of it and contributing a success.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But I think she really swung the roll up because
she looked so much like the cover album, right.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
The cover album was supposed to be the sister of
the Drummer, right from a place she did back in
the seventies seventies, And then they were like chilling out,
hanging out, right, and one of the people say, hey,
he looks it.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Was like on the wall right of the house, like
the picture.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
It's like it would be cool to have. This is
a cover, right, and so they did into a cover.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
This will blue mind bro like and I'm shocked because
me included. We're like, I thought they were the same
person person.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
She got casted, and I.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Think she was like the first person they saw and
they're like, that's it.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
We got her when they saw her.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, they did like kind of like a casting and
like she was the first one and they got her.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
So yeah, so she is performing, right, I mean clearly
you don't see the audience.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
She's on the stage was by herself. That's the word
part too.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
And she's doing her little tappy dancing recital right yeah,
and the people just like I don't know, started mocking her.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
She finishes, and they like there's some murmurs and some
laughing at her with their words being said like you suck.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
They're just like, oh, be better, better, be better, you
got it. You need some royal jelly.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That sucks, right, I mean that nothing else like breaks
my heart when someone who's trying their best out there and.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Their parents right, their parents right, didn't stand up for her.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I know she'll end up like Maxine and like.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
In the Triple X scene or yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
The Triple X Maxine.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So she she leaves the place wherever that place was,
and she starts to wander about.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
And trying to find people that will like her dancing La.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
She's kind of you know, walking around strangers and most
of them are like city people, right street people like.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, I can't tell.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I mean I didn't find it IMDb for this video
or I am what's the video on ee bat? I
didn't see that, but there has to be one because
this guy's a really famous director. He directed Smells like
Teen Spirit Samuel Bayer, and he did a lot of
a lot of videos. I mean he was like the
guy to go do for videos, which is crazy. Like also,
(26:23):
when they recorded the album, they the producer they got
it was like from Pearl Jam.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So like Capitol Records was really pushing them. They thought
they found the next big thing, which they did. This
is a song was huge, but just interesting that they
got full support, you know, they were going big with them.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, there was a like I think I was reading
it in the comments or a Reddit comment or something
that this person met the band. She saw him perform
live this before they got big, and she said that,
you know, you guys are really good, you know, like
I hope you guys.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Really make it.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And then I think one of the band members tell
him like, oh, just wait a couple of months, you'll
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Because he's just or that Capital rug is going to
push him.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
To the moon.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So and it did. Yeah, shows you that the influence
with these record labels.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Right yeah, yeah. I mean they got a pretty good
deal for being like having a four or five song EP,
I mean a demo.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Right, they barely scraped the yeah going.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
And they got you know, five hundred thousand dollars. You know,
it's like, hey man, that's pretty.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Good, you know, nineteen ninety something money.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, because I think they know the writings on the
wall on like Okay, this is the next big genre
that people will want to clamor to, and it.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Kind of was.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
There was a lot of especially that kind of more
friendly you know, you're to get more a little bit
more parents, not something a little bit older. Yeah, the
college crowd. Yeah, you like the people who are all
angsty who aren't listening to Irvana. You're going to get
these other other people.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Well, also like the Lollapaluza crowd, the Woodstock ninety four crowd,
like those kind of like neo hippie whatever that is.
At that time, you know you're.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Going to get those people indeed, in need.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
She meets a few more character and she continues to
do her dance and they're.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
All just kind of like looking at her like what
the fuck?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
You know, not very impressed. The same kind of reaction
as the recital.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Right right now.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
They're not interested, but at least they're not like booing
or no, there they watched or watching, but there's like
the guy at the bus stout with her a little bit, Yeah,
but who.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Has no teeth.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
They're interested, but again.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Do you think that happy these guys are real actors
or the actual vagrant?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
There are people, there's street people. They're actually yeah, I
think they paid him a couple of bucks. Hey, you know,
we just s she was shooting video.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Can you just like hanging out?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
It kind of looks like that, yeah, yeah, well you can.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Tell from their expression they're really acting. Yeah, and they're
just like kind of like do I just stand here
or what?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
You just watch her and they're just like what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
But really, it was only what two three scenes of
that yeah, oh okay. There was another scene where there
was like a younger kid and a couple more adults,
like on a sidewalk and she was doing it.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Remember that there's a bunch of storefronts. Yeah, she's actually
doing the full East l A or something, trying to.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Work it like, yes, yeah, the Leado Hotel.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
There, that's right, yeah, in the background.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Yeah, it's like, oh, there's the Leado.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
So there are a couple of scenes a lot of
memories in the Leado.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
But they're doing that, and then she goes into like
a existential crisis when she's sitting on the floor and
just kind of like hitting herself kind of and kind
of frustrated that no one's getting her something like that, Right.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I mean, throughout all this it's interspice with the band
playing in this beautiful valley field with the Classics blowing
out bright yeah filter filter, you know, as in the
back it looks like freaking the Windows ninety eight screen
or screensaver. But it's so crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Actually, when you watch his VHS recordings of the video
being shot compared to the actually you're like, whoa, what
a differences? So crazy? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It was it was like oversaturated yeah, background, it was
beautiful though, It's really nice.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
But that's the that was the video. But that's where
like a lot of like oversaturation.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well like a lot of bands, like especially if you
buy like the Rolling Stone or Spin magazines, that's the
pictures you kind of see the bands back then. I
remember when Lush was big, a lot of their pictures
were that kind of.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Like blowing out super white.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Superd red, and super blue.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Like the primary colors are just coming out, like yes, right.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So yeah, then she goes through this gate. You know,
it's already Windows xpeed out, and but.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
At this point it's it's it's not a real background anymore, right, right,
studio Maybe yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It looks like she she got if she was in
the green screening screen.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah, but the weird thing is is on his VHS
you see all the other dancers right out, So maybe
they just put like a weird thing in the background.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Just for that gate scene though that's because the gate's gone.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah right, yeah, but yeah, so she finds a lot
of you know, like minded hive people, right you, people
of different backgrounds and.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Already frolicking and just having a good time. And yes,
you're right, it was a multi genderci cultural.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And they're just having a great time dancing, doing their thing.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
The craziest thing about watching this video now is I'm like, wow,
like I don't think they can make this video right now.
I mean there's men with like b skirts on, and
I'm sure someone's gonna complain about that, and like the
little girl hanging out with hanging out with like older
homeless men, and someone's gonna complain.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Well, the homeless problem in LA.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
But you know, it's just like it's that's a I
was like, that's right, this is this is this.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Thing is like everything, so like we we didn't we
took all that shit for granted. How just how free
we are from any fear?
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Yeah, just we're so backed with that now.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Yeah, it's so crazy. Yeah, because when you I remember
too back then and you're like, oh, you see all
the men dressed up like them too?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
And then I didn't think twice about.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Back then, not at all. Yeah, not even that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So weird.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yeah, that's in theater, I got it. But she finds
everybody and they all start dancing and they let her
do her dance and they're all going crazy for her,
and they pick her up and you know, she found
her her people, she's been accepted.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, and the band's all rocking out as well, because
that's like they're in the climax of the song, right.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
But in contrast to the lyrics, which is, Yeah, it's
kind of strange because even the riff, right, the guitar
riff is very you know, it seems pretty happy for sunny,
you know, like something hopeful.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
But the lyrics are about like being depressed, right yeah,
and not want to get out of bed never.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, you're just like, you know what, why it should
be raining so that I could so that I can
feel right about being you know, like yeah, yeah, it's like,
you know, you want to feel down and you want
your environment to also be to match that too.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Also, the interesting about the lyrics that I got too
is like the whole song is about I need you
to be with me so I could feel better, not
like I'm going to make you better. You're going to
make me better? Did you get you get that to you? Yeah,
come lay with me and we'll have it made and
all that stuff like that. Yeah, it's a it's a
very interesting song because of that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, I mean, I'm trying to say I'm trying to
marry the two of the video and then the lyrics
in the song. I guess you could in some way
twist it where she needs others to make her feel.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
She needs like her to feel it.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, people like.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Her to kind of make her life be meaningful at
least have some sense of, you know, being belonging, you.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Know, yeah, because she feels like she's alone.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
She's alone, defa. But what's strange is there are no
kids in the video, right, there's no other kids, no
other kids that would normally, in normal circumstances be like,
oh yeah, I like what you're doing or it's cute.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You know, I want to do that too.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
But I guess what they're maybe I don't know, but
maybe they're trying to show like the world is harsh, right, Like.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
It's hard to be different now. You could be different,
you could be different back then, but you can't be
different now, right, because she's the new one and they're
all kind of the same age sort of, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, that was a choice though, to have adult adult
bees speak. But I know they want to tie it
up to the picture of the the album cover, but yeah,
that is.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
But you know, as a videographer, and because I don't
know how the band felt about the video. I mean,
I feel like they were okay with it, but they
have to come up with some sort of a narrative
or at least right to try to kind of you know,
the album cover. Everything was to be one thing, you know,
I didn't have a narrative thread throughout the right happy
ending to a sad song if you really, you know,
look at it, right.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I don't know. I've never been high on acid on anything,
so I don't even know how one can actually function.
I mean, I've been high in mushrooms.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
But why why you bring the accid thing?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Because he was apparently high on ealysis when he made this,
when he was when he was not a mating during
the shooting.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
The shooting, Okay, okay, oh really I didn't know that.
I thought it was just that show when he's wearing
the show.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
During that too, also that too, But yeah, apparently he
was also high on an LSD whiles filming this one.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I can kind of see him because his movements were
a little bit, you know, kind of like he's kind
of he wants to get jump out of his skin.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Right, But I just thought I was just you know,
like a charismatic front man mannerisms or something.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Right, or also playing up for the camera, right, have
some sort of a movement.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, it's an act, but I guess, you know, like
the director knows what he's trying to do.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
But also seeing that documentary and his performance in the
Woodstock ninety four and hey, clearly he's comfortable being you know,
he's on something and still be himself and just kind
of you know, perform as an artist. Right right, there's
no I didn't see any changes or differences. But at
the end of the video he's shirtless. Yeah, where his shirt?
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh yeah, you got you gotta get high.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
You got to show off those picks.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Right, it's that seeming valley heat man, you gotta you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Gotta see me valleys. Right. But yeah, so again concludes
in a very high note, very positive.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Is it is?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It is, and then matches the you know the violo. Yeah,
the old vibe of the song and the lyrics are
very clear too. Huh, like you you really understand like
he's saying.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yeah, he's a good lyricist for sure.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Did you think he wrote the lyrics or the bass player?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, it's the bass player's experience from him and his girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Okay, so yeah it is the bass player.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah. So did he write it the bass player right?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
It?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I think so, yeah, But I'm sure he had his
I'm sure he added stuff too.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's the main story about you know, wanting to stay
in bed and like it's not raining. I think that
was all the bass players experience, his personal experience. But
then he realized, oh that that's me too. Like, I mean,
but everybody, you know, there is some you know, depressive
moments in people's lives, right, I mean.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean watching the documentary, you kind of see
his life. You know he was Shannon was you know,
his parents divorced. They had a kind of a difficult relationship.
His father was an alcoholic. In the documentary, you see
he gets busted for a dui again, gets his car
taken away. You're not gonna be a drive. His mom worked
(36:47):
at a bar. He had issues with alcohol. He couldn't
drink alcohol, Like he even said, like he could do drugs,
but he can't drink alcohol. He gets too violent. And
then you see when he does drink alcohol. The next
thing is he's getting out of jail, and then you
he talks about being you know, taking drugs at a
young age. But he was doing kind of like weed
and mushrooms and LSD and then like later on, you know,
(37:12):
he ended up dying from a cocaine overdose. So maybe
just got harder, harder and harder, you know. And I
could see that, like, you know, you start doing mushrooms
and LSD and weed and you're doing a lot of it,
you know, and then maybe you you switch over to
something and you start you did do a little too much,
you know, because it's a lot more powerful.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
You know, well you're also exposed to other people.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
You have more money to buy that, more access to
that kind of harder drugs.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, I find them in his tour bus unresponsive.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, like he's going to see I gues said, New Orleans.
When I saw Skinny Puppy, it was going to be
at that It was at that venue.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
In New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeahs oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Interesting and it's fun. They recorded that album there, to
their last album there, and he was you could see
in the documentary he just hated being there because it
was just like alcohol.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Everyone.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
He was I had to get out of here, like this.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Is yeah, there's soul lax over there with with their
you know, like you can walk out there with your
sazarax in.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
The middle of the stream.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, like you just walk out a restaurant with your
you know, they'll get your alcohol to go if you want,
right over there. That's crazy. He's like living in California.
That's just that's so foreign. Believe it, believe it or not.
Can't be seen with alcoholic beverages in a public setting.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
No ground bagging it.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
I only got that kind of treatment in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, like it's basically in Vegas, right, but over there's
like casual like, oh yeah, you know, would you like
your you know, your whisky, your whisky sour. I'm like, okay.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
But I think this like video had a depression on
a lot of people, and I think that's why you
got so popular.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Definitely, everyone's been shunned or being cast aside at some
point in their lives.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
So this really hit a button.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
And this is like when videos are still had power,
you know, like at that time, and you know TV
still played music. Yeah exactly, there's less reality shows.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I just thought real war was already happening, but it's
you know, it's slowly gnawing at Society.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
And you had kind of hippie characters in there, and
you had characters not unlike you know, someone who would
be one of these bands or something like that. You know,
so it was it kind of made sense before. Like
now it's like it's just all like people who want
to be influencers on reality shows and sometuff like that,
you know, our ex actors or something like that. You know,
it's less of reality. I mean, I'm sure that wasn't
(39:22):
for reality, but I mean it was more reality than
it kind of is now.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Oh yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, Like I mean, to me, it's like with the
boom of reality TV was Survivor, like when it's really
when it really exploded, because I remember everyone was.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Watching that show.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Those are the Big brother follow and snow.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I never watched, really didn't watch Mike White on Amazing
Race before he was he's the guy who did White Book.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh that's that's his uh, Screw of Rock. I saw
the School of Rock, not your Libra. Oh okay, I
don't know he did d White Lotus though you never
seen truck and buck sucking fuck no no, no, all right,
Well we'll be right back for some notable YouTube comment
bumming everybody else all right, so it's time for some
notable YouTube comments.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
So this was the saddest you comments my life happens.
So it's classic. You get the you get the lyrics
of the songs, and then people someone will start it,
and then people will keep adding all the lyrics at
the end of the song. That's in all of them, right, right, right,
And then you just get a lot of the I
love the song. I love the song, millions of those right,
(40:41):
But then you get the Niagara falls. My friends, here
we go from four years ago.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
It's a lot of rain going on right now.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Mariene lewis three seven seven working in a small Vietnamese
restaurant in Louisiana. A guy came in and told me
he had seven dollars to buy something to eat and
asked if he could afford anything to eat there, and
I said yes. He told me that I reminded him
of the bee girl from the video, and it made
my whole day. When I brought him food, I could
tell he hadn't had a hot meal in a long time.
(41:08):
I played this song for him over the speakers and
it made him happy. He ended up telling me that
he was chronically homeless after serving in the military, and
that the song reminded him of better times. I hope
you're doing okay man, wherever you are, I wish you
many warm bowls of phu and plenty more jam sessions.
(41:30):
This is where did he go?
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Where they go?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (41:33):
So probably the Iraq War or something? Uh? Probably, Yeah,
that's a storm for your own.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
How long was This is from four years ago?
Speaker 6 (41:40):
Four years ago, so it could be Afghanistan.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
It could be a good wait, wait, it happened. I'm
saying it happened when you.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Could buy pa for less than seven dollars. So this
is probably back then. Yeah, right now is like twelve bucks?
Probably right? Yeah, So there you go. Another one from
four years ago. Russell Nuke thirty one sixty four. When
I got out of the army, I was watching TV
with my dad at his house. He was a Navy veteran,
a frog man. He sat up in his chair. At
the end of the video, he was standing and clapping.
(42:07):
He watched TV for a week waiting for the video
come back on. When it did, he jumped and hit
the recorder on the VCR and he wore that tape out.
I bought him the CD for Christmas. Some great memories
writing in his car listening to Blandy Mallon.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Oh that's interesting, that's crazy, right.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
His dad just loved it so much that he had
a record.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
On VHS and a teenager.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Yeah yeah, so I had did he at that time?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Cool and had effect on people.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Yeah? Interesting, right, this is from three years ago at
a real person, not a bot. You had to be there.
I was a little black kid in the nineties, obsessed
with hip hop and R and B, but this song
hit everyone. The nineties were a magical time. Music couldn't
have been more diverse. You could dabble in any and
every genre for multiple gems. I still love this song
(42:54):
tale today. This was a very prominent thing in the
a lot of people talking about how they were black
kids listening to hip hop music and for some reason
the song broke through. Like there was so many of them.
It was crazy someone that I'm like, I got to
add one of these to it.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
You know.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Yeah, So it was a crossover hit a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
It's cool.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
So there were sad ones and then you know, the
nice ones were the night He still had a cool drava.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Memories for these people.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Like I hope the lady singing karaoke AT's.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
Doing very well with her family and probably a grandma.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Now right, what do you think her sad story is.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I was probably like hating working at the karaoke store
was probably a bad memory. But she owned it. She sang.
She's sang pretty good.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Voice.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
No, she's just singing like a normal.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Girl, singing like she was in idle style.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
She wasn't honing it up or anything.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Also to like working in a karaokeo, So there's only
one way to sell a karaoke machine. You got to bounce.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yeah, get people who listen.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, she got it. You know when she got the
job because she has the box for it.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
That's wild. Right, At one time in every mall there
was at least one karaoke store.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Well that was the time of people buying karaoke machines.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Yeah, I mean, and you would have to buy the
CD right with.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
The tape, the minus one right where they remove the lyrics.
But it's the same exact song.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
All right, So guys, no Rain, will you keep it
or would you throw it back?
Speaker 4 (44:21):
I'm totally keeping it. Man Like.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Like I said, it's really just that one song, right, really,
that one song, that one band. I kind of actually
learned a lot more now that I'm doing the research.
But this has a little, shall I say, time capsule
in my life where you know this this song would
just out of nowhere, just play in a car right
or at the mall or wherever you were. And the
video really kind of added to memorializing that whole time
(44:45):
of my life.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
But you know what, I love the message, man.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I love the video because of the message and it's
very I love the very nineties feel. I love the
looking for a place where you need to feel comfortable
and belong and find people who understand you. And I
think that's a message that will never be lost in time.
And anybody who watches it, I think they'll definitely relate.
But yeah, I like it. I like the song is
a good song, man. The band is actually a really
(45:08):
good band, and I think they're still playing today because.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
Yeah, they're tearing at there.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
You know, they found somebody else to perform and.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
So like they found him twenty ten.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah, they're not a flash in the pan.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
They actually are very skilled musicians who know how to
craft songs that are memorable. It's just you know, they
were just lucky to have to be in that time
because it's kind of hard to fit in nowadays with
this kind of music even, you know, but yeah, this
is a key for sure.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
All right.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
As for me, Yeah, I mean I'm keeping this song.
It's iconic, you know, it's you don't think of nineties
music videos without this, Yeah, I think you're right now.
And like sam Ol Bayern and he directed the nineties
video with Smells like teen Spirits, so he had parton
two of those, you know, good like good for him,
but yeah, to me, it's like, you know, the song's
not my vibe, but I appreciate it and finding more
(45:56):
about the band while you know, researching this episode, you know,
like appreciate them way more now. So yeah, and then
this video is always I liked it back then too.
It's like, oh, oh cute, Oh she found her people.
It's so cool and everyone's just happy and all that,
and with the slow mo and it's like going to
heaven in a weird way. Right when you die, you.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Know what's wrong.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
It's not people, it's not it's not a you can
totally take that interpretation of that right.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
So to me, it's like, oh, you know, like if
there is a heaven and I do go and like
or if I ever even hell, I see my people, Yeah,
let's go. Yeah, a little suffer together or whatever.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
You guys are all like instead of beas you guys
are like wasps.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Trying to get honey out of those things. But yeah, yeah,
so you know, to me, it's like, yeah, finding a
sense of belonging. You know, at that time we were
That's what we're trying to do, right, We're all finding
somewhere to fit in, somewhere to find a sense of identity,
some sense of contributing to the world. What influence can
you do?
Speaker 6 (46:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, this this video really hammered that home. So yeah,
definitely keep it for me.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
Yeah, that's for me. This is a beautiful, like that
beautiful thing when we find a video that the song
and the and the video just kind of melt together
and they're almost like one.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
You know.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
It's it's you can't think of the song without thinking
about the video. You can't think about the video without
thinking about the song. And this song is great. Just
doing my research for this, I have had this this
song has been in my head for like two weeks.
I can't stop fucking singing it. Man, I'm walking around
work and I'm like, yeah, I don't understand, and I'm
(47:33):
whistling it. It's crazy. I found myself going into the
restrooms whistling this song. It's I'm sure my coworker is.
I think I'm crazy? Like, what is that song?
Speaker 4 (47:44):
That is no Red?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
But I should know, right, they know that song hopefully
maybe too old back in then.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
They're only listening to Kendrick Lamar now you know, no,
they're all like older people trying to be young.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
A straight fire bro, how do you do fellow kids?
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Exactly? But no, this is a it's just a great
song and great video man, so good when you do
get the videos done by like the video masters quote unquote,
you know, it's it's it's it's a lot different. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I mean it's kind of a it's a weird, like
because how semi apocalyptic spells like teen Spirit felt this right, now,
that's some range.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
But the vibe of the song are completely different exactly.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
So yeah, he went with the flow because.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
There's no distortion, is there?
Speaker 5 (48:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Not really right, It's.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Really and I think the Jangle song it is, yeah,
you know, reading some of the information also is when
they record, they wanted to be as real as clean
as possible as if they were playing it live without
any other you know, they really want to minimize any
of the effects.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
And yeah, they pulled it off.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
And at this time they were like turning with like
Neil Young too, who's like the realist of the real guys,
you know, and it's yeah, it makes that sense.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, yeah, they were geeking out in that documentary where
like Neil Young is playing one of their guitars and
my god, he's playing guitar.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
And there's a it's a tragic story too, so that
always also adds a little bit of weight to the
song and the video and stuff too, you know. So
but if anybody watched that documentary, it's all I could say.
It's free on Amazon right now.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Check it out.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Good, check out really good.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
Checkout.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
Yeah, nice one. There's a surprise waiting for you as
favorite to market for you guys.
Speaker 5 (49:29):
Al fae Is there's a mirror scene. He loves it.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
All right, Now what you got for us next time?
Speaker 2 (49:35):
All right? I think we're still staying around this Era
of by Me nineteen ninety three. For my next episode,
we haven't done an industrial video in a long, long,
long long time, and that's my genre of choice. And
so now for the next episode one we will be
doing revolting cocks. Do you think I'm sexy?
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:00):
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I was under pressure with this one and I should
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