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I saw a meme one time that said, “It’s funny how sometimes the people you’d take a bullet for are the ones behind the trigger.” Most of the time that’s just a metaphor, a way to describe the way it feels when a loved one betrays you. But not always. Sometimes betrayals come written in blood—and more often than not, from somebody you loved and trusted. You couldn’t find a clearer example of that than this week’s case, a story where two of the most powerful forces in the world—love and greed—clash, and three innocent people end up paying the price.

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Sources:
CNBC's "American Greed," episode "Blood Relatives"
OU Daily: https://www.oudaily.com/news/former-ou-student-alan-hruby-to-serve-three-life-sentences-for-family-murders/article_694a7d1e-e6f6-11e5-9140-5bdaa97cf79f.html
OU Daily: https://www.oudaily.com/news/university-explains-precautions-taken-during-duncan-murders-investigation/article_f6e27d1a-5643-11e4-910c-001a4bcf6878.html
OU Daily: https://www.oudaily.com/news/alan-hruby-gave-a-fake-name-when-he-was-pulled/article_c5de1850-5b02-11e4-b5ea-001a4bcf6878.html
Jim Fisher: https://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-alan-hruby-murder-case-in-cold.html
The Lawton Constitution: https://www.swoknews.com/police-find-pistol-linked-to-hruby-case/article_af4bb9d6-dbd4-5c4f-80fa-ee8b5f5342b9.html

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, campers, Grab your marshmallows and gather around the true
crime campfire. We're your camp counselors. I'm Katie and I'm Whitney,
and we're here to tell you a true story that
is way stranger than fiction or roasting murderers and marshmallows
around the true crime campfire.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I saw a meme one time that said, it's funny
how sometimes the people you'd take a bullet for are
the ones behind the trigger most of the time. That's
just a metaphor, a way to describe the way it
feels when a loved one betrays you, but not always.
Sometimes betrayals come written in blood, and more often than
not from somebody you loved and trusted. You couldn't find

(00:40):
a clearer example of that than this week's case, a
story where two of the most powerful forces in the world,
love and greed clash and three innocent people end up
paying the price. This is hashtag greed is Good the
Crimes of Alan Ruby, So campers for this one. We're

(01:08):
in the little town of Duncan, Oklahoma, October thirteenth, twenty fourteen.
At about nine o'clock that morning, a nine one one
call came into the local dispatch. I need somebody at
bent Tree. A woman said, she sounded terrified. I think
there's been a murder the Rubies hurry, breathless from panic.
The lady explained that she was the Ruby family's housekeeper

(01:30):
and she'd just arrived to clean the place. Mister and
Missus Ruby and Catherine Ruby are laying on the floor,
She said, I think they're dead. People all over town
had been getting worried about the Rubies. They'd been missing
appointments the past few days, and seventeen year old Catherine
had missed school two days in a row, Friday and
Monday without calling. As investigators arrived at the Ruby's big

(01:53):
brick house, they noticed a couple of important things. First,
there was a security camera perched on top of the roof.
That meant there might be footage of the killer or killers.
And second, as they approached the door, they detected a
familiar smell, the sharp copper tang of blood and a
lot of it. Getting closer. The smell of death hit

(02:13):
them like a slap. It's a smell you can't mistake
for anything else. They knew what they were about to
see would be bad, and it was inside the house,
investigators found three bodies, teenage Catherine Ruby and her parents
John and Joy, who everybody called Tinker. They'd all been
shot and their blood was all over the floor. It

(02:34):
looked like a scene from a nightmare, and it was
clear that the family had been dead for several days.
For detective John Byers, it was extra horrific. He'd known
the Rubies for years, and as he surveyed the awful
scene in front of him, Byers realized that somebody was missing.
There were four members of the Ruby family, where was
allan their college aged son. The first thought that ran

(02:58):
through the investigator's mind was could this be a murder suicide? John, Tinker,
and Catherine all seemed like happy people, a happy family,
But you really never know what goes on below the surface.
Sometimes the people who look like they have it all
figured out are falling apart inside. We've seen that on
this show a million times, haven't we. It's almost a
cliche at this point, It's like every episode of Dateline.

(03:20):
But it didn't take long to rule out the murder
suicide theory. For one thing, everybody was shot more than once,
not unheard of in a suicide, but rare and second.
One of the first things the detectives did was look
for the surveillance equipment connected with the camera they'd seen
on top of the house, but although nothing else seemed
to be missing, the CCTV system was interesting. Somebody didn't

(03:45):
want to be captured on camera. The Rubies owned the
local paper, the Marlowe Review, and Tinker was one of
its most enthusiastic reporters. She was especially interested in crime stories.
She'd hang around the courthouse, chatting up and charming lawyers
and court's staff and cops, chasing all the latest stories.
Definitely a camper at heart, Tinker was one of those

(04:06):
people who was so much a fixture of her community
that it seemed impossible to imagine the town going on
without her. In addition to her work as a reporter,
she was a booster for her kids' sports, a volunteer
at their school, and a terrific cook. They called her
the castle Ole Queen, and y'all know that is some
serious prestige in the Midwest. John was passionate about photography.

(04:28):
Catherine was a rock star on the volleyball team at
her high school and had tons of friends. Allan was
two years older than his sister, and he was enrolled
at Oklahoma University. None of the investigators were looking forward
to giving him the devastating news about his family. John
Ruby's dad had been in the newspaper business, owning a
paper called The Banner. John inherited the paper when his

(04:50):
dad died, and he and Tinkers sold it for a
nice chunk of change, enough, in fact, to establish a
million dollar trust fund for the kids. Allan and Catherine
would have access to it when and they turned twenty one.
College was already paid.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
For, and the Rubies seemed to be a great family.
John and Tinker were the kind of loving, involved parents
we all wish we had. They were at every one
of their kids school events, Catherine's volleyball games and Alan's
tennis matches, and Tinker cheered louder than anybody else. They
had fun with their kids, and John used his photography
talent to document it all. It should have been pretty idyllic,

(05:26):
but there was one icky little fly in the soup.
For some reason. Oldest kid Alan was obsessed with designer stuff. Clothes, shoes, sunglasses,
pretty much anything that had the word Versace or Gucci
or Coach on it come on it was all he
seemed to care about. While his sister's Instagram feed was

(05:48):
full of her and her friends and her volleyball games,
Alan's was clogged with his posts about the expensive things
he wanted his parents to buy for him. Some of
them were absolutely delulu. The Rubies were well off, but
they weren't the flipping Kardashians. They are not getting you
a six thousand dollars Watch, kid, you are in high school?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Oh my god, on what planet? Well?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
In his yearbook picture from senior year, he's wearing a
brewery button down shirt that probably costs as much as
a new couch. And this was not the kind of
school where that was a thing. We're not in Beverly
Hills here. Kid dude already had more high end stuff
than any kid he'd ever met in his life, including
a nice car his parents bought for him and almost

(06:35):
thirty pairs of expensive designer shoes totally like well into
the five figures worth of shoes. But it wasn't enough.
He was fixated on acquiring as much fancy crap as
he could and making sure everybody saw he had it.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, of course, if nobody sees it, it's meaningless, right,
appearance clearly meant everything to Allan, which you can tell
by looking at his terrifying perfect teeth veneers obviously and
white enough to see your retinas right out of your skull.
And the way this kid dresses, oh my god, it's
exactly like that annoying like golf course rich boy esthetic

(07:14):
with the polo shirts and little ironed khaki shorts, just
like all the little finance bro Larva. Where to the
country club is?

Speaker 3 (07:22):
He was also obsessed with travel, and we're not talking
about a trip to like Dollywood. He wanted to see
the world, and he wanted to do it first class, last,
but not least, And this is bananas for a high
school kid. In his junior year, he developed a taste
for gambling, where a seventeen year old kid even finds

(07:44):
the opportunity to do that. I don't know. Maybe online
was the online gambling thing as big a problem in
twenty twelve, twenty thirteen as it is now. I don't
think it was, but who knows. Alle's obsession with stuff
and things was on full display for the whole world
to see. Here are just a few posts from his Twitter.

(08:10):
People who say money can't buy happiness have obviously never
been on a jet ski. When they crash it, they
crash it with a huge smile.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, that's just unhinged.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, first of all, it's unhinged and unoriginal, like I've
heard that like a million times. Shut the fuck up.
I wish my whole closet of shoes was Louis Vauton.
Like Kanye West, we all do something to fill a void.
I shop to fill it hashtag shop aholic. Oh my god,

(08:46):
money isn't everything, It's just the basis of our world.
I want a watch for Christmas, and not a Walmart one.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
And I love this one. For Christmas, I want a
trip to Paris. Smiley face, that would be my dream.
Hashtag hint, hint, hashtag mom, hashtag dad, hashtag Christmas. Okay, allan, honey,
that's not a hint. It's not a hint. When you
just tell them I want a trip to Paris, that's
just telling them, Okay. A hint would be like what

(09:20):
do I want for Christmas? Well, sho and sapa, but
apropos of nothing. Don't I look great in this beret?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's a hint.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Hint. John and Tinker definitely spent plenty of money on
their kids. They gave them a nicer lifestyle than like
ninety percent of the people in the world will ever have,
but it was never enough for Allan. And the thing is,
print media wasn't doing so great anymore. Newspapers weren't selling
like they used to. Tinker and John had to sit
both kids down and explain that the money tree was

(09:48):
a little scragglier than it used to be and they
couldn't just buy any and everything they wanted. The only
impression that's made on Allan was to annoy and frustrate him,
and whenever mommy and Daddy said no to one of
his absurd demands, he'd go to plan b aka Grandma.
And y'all, if you didn't already hate this little viper,
you are going to hate him now. Allen's grandmother had dementia,

(10:12):
and this was just gravy for our little want to
be princeling. He became an expert at manipulating her into
thinking she'd agreed to give him money. This woman was
suffering from mental deterioration, and this little shit would hustle
her out to the car and drive her around to
ATMs and banks to get her to take out cash
for him, and we're not talking five bucks, We're talking

(10:33):
thousands of dollars, and he'd straight up steal her credit
cards and rack him up on whatever took his little
fancy who steals from their grandma? Who does that?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Dude? His grandma, bless her, noticed that her money was disappearing,
but never really understood that her grandson was stealing from her.
When his parents realized what had been happening, they were horrified,
but they didn't want to do anything to ruin the
little pooky Bear's future, so instead of turning him into
the cops, they took him to meet with the sheriff
instead for a stern talking to, which was it sounds

(11:07):
to me like a complete joke, like, okay, son, now,
if you keep doing crimes, you're gonna end up in
prison someday. All right, give me a freakin' break. I'm
sure everyone was hoping this little microdose of law enforcement
contact would be enough to scare Alan straight. How do
we think that's gonna work out? Well, let's check in
with Alan's Twitter account. Shopping isn't an addiction, It is pleasure.

(11:34):
Why does that sentence make my skin want to crawl
off my body. Allan was still in high school at
this point, so if he thought about consequences at all,
he might have just assumed he'd get tried as a
juvenile and walk away with a slap on the wrist.
But apparently he was absolutely indignant that his parents had

(11:54):
dared to embarrass him in front of the sheriff like that.
Around Thanksgiving of twenty twelve, Alan posted a cryptic tweet
all I want for Christmas is a less psychotic family
hashtag getting ridiculous. Yes, Alan, they're psychotic because they find
grand theft objectionable and a bunch of assholes. Things in

(12:15):
the Ruby house were indeed getting hashtag ridiculous. On December
twenty first, Alan got so enraged during an argument with
his mom about his spending habits what else, that he
tried to choke her out. The police came. Although she
was shaken up by her son's violent outbursts, she refused
to press charges against him, which, as infuriating as it is,

(12:38):
I'm sure a lot of mothers would. But despite all
of this, the choking incident, the theft from his grandmother,
Alan's parents gave him an amazing gift. The summer before
his final year of high school, they cashed in a
bunch of their airline miles to get him a plane
ticket to Europe so he could spend the summer backpacking around. Now,
I'm sure what they had in mind was the usual

(12:59):
student trip to Europe, staying in hostels, eating on the cheap,
which is great, by the way. I mean, I wouldn't
want to stay in hostels now because a I'm old
and I need a comfy better my back will go
out and be Those hostile movies have taught me what
happens in those places, and I do not want to
be tortured to death. But for a student on his
first trip abroad, like come on, it is so much

(13:19):
fun to hang out in hostels. You get to meet
all kinds of new people. Some of them will be
your friends for life. Some of them will be absolute
freaks that you'll tell stories about for the rest of
your days. There's kind of a college dorm atmosphere. You'll
have stories to tell forever.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
But of course, our boy didn't want to travel on
a budget, so he went back to his favorite unwilling
and unwitting atm Grandma. He fraudulently opened a credit card
in her name, faking her signature on the application, and
then he lived it up in Europe, Paris, Rome, London,

(13:56):
all on Manna's time. All told Alan, he ran up
a five thousand dollars bill on the credit card he'd
taken out in his grandmother's name. Five grand's worth of fraud.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, this kid needs to be mulched.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Put his dumbass in the wood chipper. My only consolation
for this is that all this jet setting cost him
his spot on the high school tennis team because he
miss so much court time over the summer. By the way,
of course, this little dorklet chose tennis as a sport.
It's probably the boogiest one they had at his high school.

(14:30):
Like no offense if you play tennis, by the way,
but it is pretty bougie.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's a little boogie.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I was just talking to a tennis dad, like a
couple weeks ago, who was telling me that his son
goes through one pair of tennis shoes per month. Whoa
per month he has to buy a new pair of
tennis shoes. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
And it's so funny because on the American Greed episode,
his coach is like yeah, he always had to have
the most expensive racket and the most expensive bags. Even
though it sounds like he wasn't that spectacular a player,
I'm not surprised. I mean, practicing would cut into valuable
shopping time, that's right. Seriously, though, how do you spawn

(15:13):
a little greed goblin like this? I mean, his sister
wasn't like this at all. It sounds like she was
a really sweet, grounded kid who prioritized her family and
her friends, not designer bs.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, and I mean people want to say, like, oh,
it's the parent's fault, but again, you've got two kids
two years apart, raised in the same exact family by
the same exact people. She's not like that at all.
She was just a complete sweetheart who prioritized, you know,
the right things in life. And I don't know how
he happened really, mm hmm, it's wild.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Alan spent six glorious weeks in Europe spending his grandma's
money like his plane was going down. But when he
got home, it didn't take long for John and Tinker
to find out about the credit card fraud, and that
was apparently finally the last straw for them. They knew
if they didn't nip this in the bud. Now, well,
their son was going to continue down a dark path.
He needed to experience some consequences. So they turned him in.

(16:08):
And this was not a small deal. Five thousand dollars
worth of fraud is a felony. And Alan was eighteen now,
so he was a grown up in the eyes of
the law. Police put the grabazon him and hauled him
in for questioning, and Alan came clean, sort of. She
authorized one of the charges, he told the detective, and

(16:29):
then I abused it and nah did the other ones?
I meant to pay it off before before you got caught,
the detective finished. Yeah, Alan said.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
My dude, she didn't even know what existed. Authorized one
of the charges, my ass.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
We watched the recording of that interview, and there's something
unsettling about it. He's admitting to the crime, but his
affect is all wrong. His face almost looked like he's
struggling to hold an anger, struggling not to say something
like I'm to whatever I want and how dare you
question me? But although I suspect he had zero remorse

(17:07):
for how he victimized his grandma, Alan took a plea deal.
He was accepted into a deferred sentencing program, the terms
of which included paying restitution, participating in a cognitive behavior
therapy program, and attending drug and alcohol counseling. I think
that last one is a pretty standard condition of probation.
I'm not sure if he had any drug or alcohol

(17:27):
issues with deferred sentencing. As long as you complete your
probation and do what the court tells you, you're probably
not going to end up with any jail time. Never
hide from the truth, he tweeted, Always embrace it hashtag
rules of life.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
The credit card fraud. Remember it was only part of
the equation. That was just the most recent thing he did.
That was the first thing the family had turned him
in for. But just brace yourself, because in total, he
had built his family out of almost at gram over
the past couple of years. His punishment could have, and
should have, I think, been a lot worse. But it

(18:07):
doesn't seem like he learned a damn thing from his
brush with the law. All throughout his senior year, his
Twitter feed was full of all his hashtag big city
dreams and more expensive things he wanted to buy, and
his spending didn't even slow down. There was increasing tension

(18:48):
in the Ruby family. He was still very much loved, though,
especially by his sister Catherine. She adored her big brother
and looked up to him. One of her friends told
the TV show American Greed about how excited she'd get
whenever Alan came to her volleyball games or took her
out to lunch. She was so proud of him. And
if that does not make you want to beat the
bricks off of this little dweeb, I don't know what's

(19:10):
gonna anyway. Alan graduated from high school in twenty fourteen
and in the fall started his freshman year at Oklahoma University.
He picked a major in political science, which I find
kind of strange, Like, if money's so important to you,
you'd think you'd at least want to do like pre
med or some shit. He's probably thinking he'd become a
lobbyist for like the fracking industry or something lots of

(19:34):
money in that, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, Or like law maybe, but lawyers don't have time
to spend the money they make they're working.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Absolutely true. Most people have a blast their first semester
of college. It's your first taste of real freedom from
mom and dad. But there was something p and on
Allan's parade his parents, after the whole stealing Grandma's money thing,
they decided to cut his financial support rastically. No more
luxury goods or European vacations. Most college kids are used

(20:06):
to living on hope streams and Ramen noodles, but for Allan,
losing access to the money's pigot was unthinkable. What were
these idiots thinking. All they were doing was forcing him
to steal again, And how was he supposed to concentrate
on school and manage a bunch of check fraud at
the same time John and Tinker were really failing his
parents here, Alan decided he had to do something about it.

(20:29):
He knew, of course, about the million dollar trust fund
his parents had set up for him and Catherine, and
he knew that both his parents had sizeable life insurance policies,
not to mention the beautiful house on bent Tree Street
and the cars and all the furniture. With his parents gone,
he'd be set to inherit a big, gorgeous chunk of change.

(20:49):
With Catherine gone too, it would be even bigger. So
on the night of October ninth, Alan made the drive
down to Duncan to murder his family. He had an
alibi all planned out. He'd arranged to spend the weekend
in Dallas with some friends for the ou Texas football
game at the Cotton Bowl. He'd go up there right
after the murders, and he'd have plenty of witnesses who'd

(21:10):
say they spent the whole weekend with him. Footage from
the Ruby's security camera captured a normal looking day on
October ninth. Catherine washed her car in the driveway. It
was bright and sunny, but there was one thing that,
in hindsight raises a red flag, a little touch of
foreshadowing for the nightmare that was coming. That day, John

(21:31):
Ruby realized that a nine millimeter handgun was missing from
his truck. He called the police and they came out
to take a report on the theft. You can see
John standing in the driveway talking to the detective on
the security camera. I can only imagine what he must
have been feeling as he said this, but he admitted
that his son Alan might have stolen the gun. He

(21:52):
had a history of theft. In fact, he was still
on probation for it. Where was Alan now? The investigator
wanted to know He's at college. John said, I'm sure
it hurt this father to have to suspect his own
kid of stealing from him. I hate that this had
to happen to him on his last day of life
back up at Oklahoma. You. As the sun began to set,

(22:14):
Allan left his cell phone in his dorm room so
it couldn't give away his location, and he got into
his jeep. Allan arrived back in Duncan at about seven
o'clock that night. It was October, so it was already
dark now, and he parked a few streets away from
his family's house. He had the gun he'd stolen from
his dad's truck as he slipped in through the back
door and waited.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
He shot Tinker, first shot her in the head as
she came into the kitchen, then shot her again to
make sure she was dead. Catherine heard the shots and
came running into the room to see what was happening.
Alan shot her dead. The sister had looked up to
him her entire life, and for me, this is the
most unsettling part. Once he'd murdered his mother and sister,

(22:58):
Alan sat and went for his dad to come home.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
For an hour, he sat with the bodies of the
two women he'd killed. He had an hour to think
about what he was doing, to make the choice to
stop to turn himself in, but instead, as John Ruby
came through the door into the kitchen, expecting to be
greeted by his family, Alan shot him twice in the head.

(23:23):
John sat ouch and fell to the floor dead. Did
he see his wife and daughter lying in blood on
the floor before his son ended his life the way
he had theirs? I hope not. I hope he never
knew what hit him. Alan Ruby had murdered the three
people who loved him more than anything else in the world,

(23:43):
all for a closet full of Louis Vauton. Once the
job was done, he walked back to his car, drove
back to ou to grab his cell phone in his suitcase,
and went to Dallas with some friends for the ou
Texas game. In typical Alan style, he booked them a
room at Ritz Carlton Hotel, one of the fanciest in town.
Hotel security cameras captured him at the front desk that

(24:06):
night checking in. His friends later said there was nothing
weird about Alan's mood or mannerisms that night. He was
his normal self. If anything, he was in an especially
good mood, taking pictures of his friends and posting them
on Instagram. On October twelfth, Alan popped up again on
the ritz Carlton's front desk security camera, checking out. He
drove back to Ou that day. The Ruby's housekeeper found

(24:29):
John Tinker and Catherine's bodies. The next morning. The investigation
was just a few hours old, detectives and CSI still
working the scene when Alan Ruby showed up nonchalantly, As
detective Buyers later said, as a homicide investigator, Buyers had
seen plenty of family members show up at crime scenes

(24:50):
over the years. Usually they were panicked or furious, or
sobbing or even catatonic. Many of them would run toward
the house and have to be held back they'd crossed
the crime scene tape. Most importantly, they'd ask what are
you doing here? What happened? Alan Ruby did none of
those things. It gave the investigators a little chill. Alan

(25:13):
just stood and watched until an officer approached him and
offered to take him to the police station to talk.
Alan didn't ask a single question on the way there,
which is just bizarre. There's crime scene tape up at
your family's house. Detectives and csis running around, and you're
not a little curious to find out what's up.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Interrogation room footage from that day shows Alan scrolling on
his phone as he waited for someone to come in
and talk to him. When the detective did arrive, he
had to tell Allan to turn off his phone so
they could talk. He didn't mince words. There are three
people there in that house that are deceased, the detective said,
your mom, your sister, and your dad. Oh no, Alan said,

(25:55):
and covered his eyes with his hands. Body language enthusiasts
called this move eye blocking and say it can be
a sign of deception. To me, it looks like he
was pushing his knuckles into his eyes to try and
muster up some tears. He made a few sniffly noises,
but I didn't see any waterworks. As the detective worked
the interrogate of mojo on him, Alan sat with his

(26:17):
head down, occasionally sniffling. He claimed to have no idea
who would want to hurt his family, certainly not him,
no sir. When asked about the theft of his dad's
nine millimeter handgun the day before the murders, Alan said
he hadn't known anything about it. I don't do guns,
he said. I guess now is as good a time

(26:38):
as any to tell you that this man has the
voice of a depressed cartoon rat. Oh no, detective, it
does it me. It increases his general punch ability factor
by about forty percent, and it was already pretty damn high.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
His Twitter alone was like it fought it over one
hundred percent, like it was bad almighty.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
So, as they usually do, the detective slowly ratcheted up
the pressure as the interrogation went along. Are you a
cold blooded killer, he asked Allan. No, Alan said, because
I love my family. They've done so much to help
me in my life. Oh you mean like turning you
into the cops for credit card fraud. Alan swore up
and down that he'd worked everything out with the family,

(27:24):
that the money he'd stolen was just gonna come out
of his trust fund, and no matter how hard the
detective pressed, he insisted he didn't kill his parents and sister. Fortunately,
they had a reason to hold on to him anyway.
Alan had violated his probation by going to Texas for
the football game, so they tossed him an orange jumpsuit
and let him stew over night in a cell. Meanwhile,

(27:46):
a search of Alan's dorm room and car turned up
some interesting stuff, some stolen checks, a crazy expensive designer watch,
probably bought with some kind of illicit funds, and they
found a bathrobe from the Frick and Ritz Carlton y'all,
this little bit stole the bathrobe about the hotel. That
is so funny to me. Every time the dude has

(28:07):
the chance to act like a grubby little cockroach, he
takes it.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
And it's so fucking gross. Someone else's naked bits have
been in there, a bunch of someone's. I can't I
can't imagine something worse to steal from a hotel than
like blankets, towels, robes, like all of that is fucking gross.
Stop it, it's gross.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
But it just shows you how much he loves a
designer logo, Like he just wanted a robe that said
Ritz Carlton on it.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Oh what a dweep.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
The next morning, for some inexplicable reason, Alan consented to
a polygraph exam. Why he would do that, I cannot
imagine dumb idea, but he took it. Maybe his brain
was all scrambled from the trauma of having to wear
the jail issued uniform, which like didn't even have the
word Prada on it or anything. Unsurprisingly, Alan flung to

(28:54):
the polygraph and as the detective drops that news on him,
you can see him have a real emotion for the
first time in either interview. His breathing picks up his
cheek's flesh. He looks like he's about to cry. The
detectives must have realized this was the time to pounce.
They laid on the pressure and Alan, bless his heart,
tried to throw a hail Mary. I owe money, Alan

(29:17):
said to a loan shark about three grand, and he
told me he was gonna get revenge. He was gonna
make me suffer for not paying him back. Ah. Yes,
the old loan shark technique of murdering everybody in your
family but you, because you know that gets you your
money back. Somehow. The detective wasn't having it. He was like, yeah, right,

(29:38):
no loan shark on planet Earth would kill your entire
family like this and not steal anything while he's there.
She's not gonna happen. Oh oh yeah, he had another
fail for our boy, Allan. But he's like it happens
in the movies.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I think, yeah, a loan shark is gonna break your
kneecaps before they ever get to the murdering part of
the show, and certainly not over three thousand dollars. You're
worth more alive, scared but compliant, and no one is
going to comply when you go iceman on someone's family.
This isn't the Godfather, and you aren't a made man.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
When Alan realized the detectives weren't buying his absurd little
loan shark story, he finally caved. They did it, he said.
He laid it all out who he shot first, second, third,
how he stole his dad's gun a few days before
the murders. Stole his mom's credit card too. That was
new information. Later they discovered that he'd used it later

(30:38):
that night to book the room at the Ritz. Alan
told the investigators that he'd thrown the murder weapon, his
dad's nine millimeter handgun, into a lake. The security video
equipment too, and he agreed to lead the detectives to
the lake so they could hopefully recover the evidence.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
They loaded him into a car and drove all the
way out there. Spent hours a long looking where he
told them he'd chucked the stuff in, but much to
everyone's frustration, they found nothing, and soon they figured out why.
I know this is going to shock you, but Alan
had lied. Officers had been reviewing a ton of surveillance

(31:16):
footage of the area around the murder scene, and one
eagle eyed fella happened to notice a jeep that looked
an awful lot like Alan's turning into a storage facility
at about eight pm on the night of the murders.
The investigators got a search warrant for the storage facility
and yep, turns out Alan's grandma had a storage unit there.

(31:37):
Poor grandma again, I know, man. And when they opened
it up there was the murder weapon and the stolen
surveillance equipment. Strangely, he had told them the truth about
where to find the clothes he'd been wearing during the murders,
and they recovered those pretty quickly. As Alan sat in jail,

(31:57):
word of his arrests spread through ou like wildfire. His
dorm mates watched as police posted up at Headington Hall
where Alan lived, to make sure he didn't come back
if he made bail. They issued a no trespass warning
and the university rushed to officially ban him from campus
for life. The town of Duncan was reeling from Allan's confession.

(32:18):
Everybody knew the guy was into the luxury lifestyle, but
nobody could have fathomed he'd do something like this. Some
of the Ruby's friends felt some guilt about the murders,
like they should have seen something, should have done something.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
That's so sad.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Over a thousand people came to the Ruby's funeral service,
a testament to how much they were loved and respected
in the community. Catherine's volleyball coach was one of the
people who spoke at the service. She later got a
tattoo to remember her star student, a Valentine heart with
Catherine's number three in the middle.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Oh my god, it's so sweet.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Catherine's high school made a memorial to her too, with
pictures in her letterman jacket and letters from her friends.
The prosecutor, who knew John and Tinker, wanted the death
penalty for the triple murder, but the Ruby's family members didn't,
and they made it known it wouldn't bring their loved
ones back and they'd rather have him sit in prison

(33:13):
for the rest of his life and let the realization
of what he'd done sink in and you know, sit
in prison without any of that designer shit. Poretically yep.
So they showed Alan mercy despite the fact that he'd
shown his family none, and although he claimed he one
hundred percent welcomed the death penalty. Alan apparently didn't really

(33:36):
want to die for his crime. With the blessing of
the family who dreaded the ordeal of a trial, he
took a plea deal. He pled guilty to three counts
of first degree murder and received three consecutive life sentences
without the possibility of parole. Mister Gucci is going to
sit in prison till the day he dies.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
On the day of his sentencing, a lot of people
expected some tears, some remorse and apology to the remnants
of his family, But nope, even when they gave him
a chance to meet privately with family members, he had
nothing to say. Just didn't have it in him. I
guess he looked like his eyes were a little red
as they led him away in shackles, maybe from crying.

(34:16):
But that was all we got. There's an interesting little
detail from this case that I saved for last Early
on the morning of October ninth, which was the day
of the murder, Allan got pulled over for speeding, and
he gave the cop a fake name and birth date,
Dakota Moore. Apparently Dakota was a guy he knew and
really really disliked, so I guess he probably had himself

(34:37):
a little giggle at the thought of getting this due
to ticket he didn't deserve. The birth date was correct.
Alan had apparently gone to the trouble of finding that out,
which is super creepy to me. And Alan said he
didn't have his driver's license or insurance on him, so
the cop didn't figure out he was being lied to.
He just gave Alan several tickets and sent him on
his way. Later it came out that Alan had used

(34:59):
Dkote his name in a couple of previous traffic stops too.
Just a little more evidence if we needed it of
what an absolute horror show of a human being Allan
is and how comfortable he is with lying. And then
there's this. When they searched the Ruby's house after the murder,
investigators found a stack of fake IDs. Four were stashed

(35:20):
away in a gun safe and two in a bathroom drawer.
They were of course, Allan's I think this is interesting.
I think it shows us that this isn't a case
of a dumb kid who made one or two bad
decisions with this family's money and got caught and was
gonna do better. This guy was prepping for a life
of crime. He was learning the tools of the trade
so he could feed his endless lust for money. Fortunately

(35:44):
for all the victims he probably would have had he
got caught before he could do any more damage. So
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