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Speaker 1 (00:12):
All aboard the Truth Express with your conductor Erskine, who
give you the latest on national news, politics, policies, business
and government issues.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rebecca Carrell, she's senior editor. She's a regular contributor to
the New American. The New American is one of the finest,
if not the finest, publications can subscribe to. They're on
the cutting edge, and they also disseminate truth. How about

(00:47):
that disseminating truth? Unlike so many other publications, if you
read in The New American, you can take it to
the Wow, it go better than the bank. You can
understand this what needs to be said. It's the truth.
I read an article in The New American titled lithal
you in healthcare that was incredible. The new article that

(01:08):
Rebecca's written GOP versus rhinoes in Michigan, also in healthcare.
And this is what we need to talk about. The
New American dot com. We've got the election coming up.
What's going to happen? Is it going to be stolen again?
What do you think, Rebecca? Are they going to try steals?
They're already or trying right now? It rhetorical question. They're
working out now, aren't they?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I know well, and that's the thing. I mean, I
think that they've been stealing them for a long time.
They probably have to be blind not to see that,
at least not to see it now if you didn't
see it before. But there are a lot of people
that are keeping their eyes on what's going on, which
is helping. You know, there's a lot of pushback, especially.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Look at what's going on, to be looking at Macomb County, Michigan.
They've got a new talk show there called inside Track.
They've failed, uh on, the party Executive committee, failed coup
against the Executive Committee, Mark Forton, chairman and Macomb County

(02:10):
Republican Party. I mean, this was a terrible thing that
they did. Then an action committee that lobbyists to running
the government behind the scenes. I mean, you're already called
you just bear it wide open, you say exactly what's happening.
That's one microcosm of what's happening. But there was a
big microcosm because the number of votes that were changed

(02:34):
in Macomb County Big area two hundred and twenty election
twenty twenty election fraud nine hundred and seventy four thousand,
nine hundred and seventeen fraudulent votes. That's incredible, right.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
That was the concern Citizens' initiative. They did an audit
and they discovered anomalies that would account for that number
of fraudulent votes, which is six times a margin that
gave the entire state to Biden. And of course everyone
is expecting Trump to carry Michigan, and he was until
they shut things down.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
And he legally he did, he did, you know, and
they're saying these deniers, well, these deniers have the facts.
The dominum machines were still wrong the whole thing, it
really was, and so they can say all they want
to that, and all the media, all the main street
media is saying, oh, yeah, those people who still believe, well,

(03:29):
Hillary Clint still believes, stave Cy Abram still believes. But
on our side, if we still believe, then we're absolutely crazy.
I don't understand this well.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
And this is a scary thing. This is the two
people involved in this particular story are the Macombe County
Republican Party chairman and vice chair Mark Forton Lisa Mankwitz.
In April, they were voted out by this coup that
tried to take over the County Republican Party, which sued
them actually, and the judge came back and said, no,

(04:02):
they were duly elected. They are the proper leaders of
the Mcon County Republican Committee. However, their state party turned
on them and acknowledged this this defects of cult and
which I think the effective called. That makes it sound
to all, you know, a cult, but it was it
was all. It involved the delegates from the county who

(04:24):
were confused at this point, who's the proper leaders, I
don't know, I don't know. So they ended up at
the state convention in August and it was the delegates
from the other eighty two counties in Michigan that stood
up for the proper, for the true leaders from Mark
and Lisa and said, no, they are the leaders. They're delegates.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Are the ones that we who didn't even support Tutor Dixon.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
That and that isn't that odd? And that's very telling
to me because you know, when I was growing up,
my parents were very politically active, and my mother would
always say, there's one party in the United States, and
it's called the Republican's Democrats party, because her point was,
you know, it's what we call rhinos now, it's that
the government keeps on this socialistic track no matter who's

(05:08):
in power. And if you look at the people who
they're choosing for their cabinet and for their administration, they
all come from the same groups. The Council on Turn
of Relations, from the Trial Aatoral Commission, the Goldburgers. Now
you also look to the World Economic Forum and all
of these little heads on the same hydra that has
been this ongoing and dare I use the word conspiracy

(05:32):
throughout the ages and we see it happening now. You know,
in a way, if there weren't deaths involved, then I'd
almost be grateful for COVID, because people are and not
just for COVID, but for other things like this carbon
pipeline they're trying to put through the Midwest. People are
waking up to the fact that hey, wait a minute,
there is a concerted agenda here. There's a depopulation agenda.

(05:55):
There's a war on farmers, there's a war on our
medical autonomy, there's a world I.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Don't believe it. It sounds how could anybody be so bad,
so evil, so corrupt, right, But it's there. You have
to acknowledge it. It is there and has been for
a long time. There's a conspiracy to kill Jesus Christ.
I mean, come on, it's been going on forever.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
And you know, it's so easy for us to read
history books and go way far back in history and think, oh, yeah,
that really happened, but it can't happen to us. That's
insane to think to think that way. And there's something
else interesting, you know. Michigan is just this hotbed of
election fraud and election integrity issues right now. It's actually
a fascinating state to study. But the election integrity specialists

(06:40):
have had a big victory there recently. On October twentieth,
a judge ruled that the new poll watcher and pole
challenger guidelines that were issued by the Secretary of State's
office are in violation of a Michigan election law on
five counts. The judge has ordered the secret State and

(07:00):
the Director of Elections to either rescind those guidelines or
revise the manual accordingly. Now, this is a manual that's
been in use for a number of years since two
thousand and three, I think, and it's updated, you know, regularly,
no problem, but the most recent update shackled these poll
challengers so that they can't get in with their cell phones.
You know, they can't come into the to the polling

(07:22):
place where their cell phones. They can't communicate with anyone
except for a sort of designated election liaison that they
have to go through that if that liaison determines that
their challenges are without merit, then he doesn't have to
record them strictly.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Brought the ability for challengers to see what was going
on with pizza boxes over the windows.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
That was in Detroit, that was the TCF Center. Lisa
Mangowitz was one of those who was there and witnessed
that happening, and she she said that also, there's a
there's a wonderful woman running for Secretary of State right
now in the midterms, Christina Caramo. She was there as well.
She is Trump endorsed, and she's yet another one of

(08:11):
the Republican candidates on the midterm ballot who the state
Party is kind of ignoring, you know, not not completely ignoring,
but not pushing as much as they should they should
be really trying pulling out all the stops to get
rid of a very leftist Biden lover like Jocelyn Vincent.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, they say they've got people like Adam Kinzinger they've
got people like what's their name, who's a vice president's daughter.
I mean this side of sort of people with friends
like that who don't need.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Enemies, right it is, And you know it just comes
down to that to the rhino. Really well, it started.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It started with John McCain, and the evidence of it's
still going on in places like Arizona where I am.
You've still got the McCain faction that you just can't trust.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Well, turn on them, right, And I wouldn't disagree with
you on that, but I'd say it even goes back
before him. For instance, I'll just give you I'll just
throw this set as an example. The contract with America
under new Ingridge back in the nineties, wasn't it right?
The federal government grew under that contract with America. The
federal government grew, and I'm talking in terms of bureaucracy

(09:27):
and taxes, right, more than it had in any under
any other administration in the history of the United States
of America.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
And well, that's what the government changes. If we get
a Republican Senate, if we get a Republican House, and
they still keep the spending going. They don't train to
bring things back. They don't bring it into perspective if
they do nothing except it's just a change of faces.
And as long as they got Mitchell McConnell, until they

(09:58):
get rid of him, I'm not going trust them. But
if they will change, they can be a party of
significance and the power. If they don't, then they're just
like the Democrats. They are. Will know that we put
a lot of rhinos in. I do think we've got
smarter people than they have running on the Democratic Party.
Some of them. We've got wonderful candidates. We've had got

(10:21):
a more diverse selection of people that I've ever seen.
We've got people like herschel Walker, who's extremely brilliant. We've
got people like doctor Oz and look who they're both
running up against, I mean Warnock and and you've got Fetterman.
I watched part of the debate last night. I mean
that was no debate with Fetterman. I mean he was horrible.

(10:45):
I mean to put somebody up like that, you know,
it's like you could indict a ham sandwich. Well, in
Democrat Party they think they can run a Ham Sandwich,
and that's exactly what they're doing with some of those candidates.
Some of them are absolutely put that. I'm not the
meaning him because of his illness or anything else. But
there's certain people who are just simply not fit to run,

(11:08):
and he's one of them. But it's incredible what's going on.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
And I'll tell you what and what we're seeing. I
actually I actually interviewed Mark and Lisa from the Macomb
County Republican Party the other day and they told me
that they are what they're experiencing is any of their candidates,
that the Republican candidates that they're endorsing, who questioned the
twenty twenty presidential election are immediately stonewalled by the state

(11:37):
Republican Party. And Mark even talked with one of his
state representatives who told him that anyone who questions the
election is committing a criminal act. In fact, no, I'm
sorry the Michigan State he was a senator, Michigan State
Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey told him, any one question

(12:00):
our elections is committing a criminal act. And that's not true.
So exercising your First Amendment rights is a criminal act.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
So I think who's questioned elections in the past, hasn't
Hillary Clinton has the Stacy Abrams, I mean you go
over all the Democrats. They've questioned every election that we've
ever had. This is the only the first time that
we've questioned what went on. But it was such a
blatant corruption that happened in Arizona where I am, It

(12:32):
happened in Georgia, it happened in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania ballots
in the middle of the night. If you don't question it,
you have no reason to. You've got to stand up
and question it. We have no choice do we in
a constitutional republic then to stand up in.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Question if we want to keep our constitutional republic. Of course,
there are a lot of people who do not want that,
and they are wanting an Article five convention right now
and wanting to rewrite it. I'll tell you what's going
to happen if that occurs. We are going to end
up as Southern Canada. Right, We're going to know you all.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Be part of Canada. Look at them, They just took
away the rights to bear arms. No guns in Canada, period,
no handguns.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
And how is that and how is that decree handed
down from one outrageously liberal politician.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Absolutely Justin Justin Trudeau, who's really the son of Fidel Castro,
and he's acting just like Castro. Now. The other thing
is the one thing that they're doing right in Canada,
and we talk about did you get back if you
don't mind, Rebecca. The one thing they're doing right paper ballads.
Oh what a concept. Paper ballads. They're doing it in Canada.

(13:49):
We can do it here. The Biden administration is quickly
moving to implement the liberal fantasy of socialist spending. After
spending a two point one trillion dollars stimulus, the President
and Craig led Congress have introduced another three train dollar
plan to add to our instrumentable death, seeking to raise
taxes on Americans Mickey, as little as two hundred thousand

(14:09):
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(15:03):
of elections, isn't.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
It really is? And people these days are going to say, oh,
we can't do that, that's too archaic. We have all
this technology, technology you can, you can much and everyone
should have that because we know how easily our identities
can be still on. You know how easily you can
you can say anything with a computer. Paper ballots allow

(15:25):
us to go back and do what's called a forensic
called it that right, You can actually easily do a
simple hand count. Also, we need to understand too, I
think the I think people don't understand what kind of
volunteer work they can do on election day, being a
poll watcher or a poll challenger. A pole challenger is
someone who is certified and trained to understand election law,

(15:47):
to understand what's going on at the polls, and to
be able to watch and see these anomalies all and
all they have to do is call those anomalies to
poll workers attentions and say, okay, we we have to
take care of this. This might be a for voters
might not be a legitimate vote, or or this legitimate
vote wasn't counted. You know that kind of thing has
happened since since the United States was born. Sure, we've

(16:10):
always had We've always had public You've always been anyone.
Anyone can walk in off the street and observe what's
going on, as long as they're not obstructing the process.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I watched in Canada, and uh, paper ballots are done quickly.
They're done pretty much of they're finished by the time
the polls are closed because they keep running total. You've
also got a system where you have to show an ID.
You have to show an ID. It's a lot more
honest than they have here. And I'm not a big

(16:42):
fan of the medical system in Canada, and a lot
of things I'm not a fan of, but their voting
system is good. I also kind of like the idea
of having no confidence vote to get rid of people.
But with a paper ballot, you have hand kut paper ballots.
Only paper ballots provide physical proof of the OS it's in.
Paper ballots can be safely recounted in case of a

(17:04):
contested result. Counting paper ballots in public one hundred percent oversight,
one hundred percent transparency. Unlike computer system, paper ballots don't
break down, they don't mount. In fact function. Paper ballots
aren't programmed secretly by unaccountable private corporations, some of them
in foreign countries. And they can't be hacked or rigged.

(17:26):
I mean, it's a perfect system. We need to get
back to paper ballots, don't we We do.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
And I'll tell you what now. You know you say
it's the perfect system. It can't be rigged. Sure, elections
were stolen when we had paper ballots, right, we know
that that happened. But when you've got these the poll
watchers and the poll challengers who are properly trained, they're
able to see that too. When you have computers, it
doesn't matter how many pole watchers and poll challengers you have.
They can't see what's going on inside the circuit board

(17:54):
of that election machine. My own home.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
No. And they had had ways that you could hack it.
Do it on a cell phone, and when they're taking
it from the polling place to downtown where they're counted.
I mean, you can hack into it at any point,
at any juncture. I mean they've written books on this.
It's incredible how easy it is for those who know
how to do it. For me, it'd be impossible. But

(18:18):
somebody who knows how to do it, apparently it's child's play.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It is. And they have an annual death con meeting
in Vegas where hackers get together and it's their hacker conventions,
and they have a voting village. They hack into all
the current voting machines up until twenty twenty. The word
from that convention was stop the voting machines, stop all together.

(18:44):
We have to have paper ballots. These voting machines can
be hacked. We're doing it within sure, you know, within
a few hours. We know that there are people who
are dedicated to this twenty four to seven, with lots
and lots of money behind them, whether they're whether they're
foreign or domestic. They weren't saying saying, you know that
there are people who have a vested interest in stealing
our elections. These machines are completely vulnerable. Stop and ever

(19:07):
since twenty twenty, you don't hear that from them anymore.
Isn't that interesting?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
We'll be right back with Rebecca Terrell. The Biden administration
is quickly moving to implement the liberal fantasy of socialist spending.
After spending a two point one trillion dollars stimulus, the
President and the Democratic led Congress have introduced another three

(19:36):
trillion dollars plan to add to our instrumentable death, seeking
to raise taxes on Americans making as little as two
hundred thousand a year. Have you seen the immigration footage
eighty seven million putting illegals in hotel rooms and our
troops sleeping on parking garage floors? Could this be the
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just for a bet with you, Rebecca, about a publication
that you're familiar with, The New American. You're editor of

(20:38):
The New American. The New American is one of the
few publications that is honest, very very straightforward, has been
for years. You've got the articles that make me think,
you've got articles that will make anybody think. They're very
very well written. You've got people like Selwyn Duke, You've
got so many good authors. That's the New American. How

(21:01):
do I subscribe to New American? How much is it?
Is it at our male leg and is it terribly expensive?
But the articles in there, you really tell it the
way it is. This is the true alternative press. Is
the New American. You retired of the mainstream lamestream press.
You have to subscribe to the New American. You've done
a terrific job with that. So how do you subscribe?

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, thank you so much for that, and we do
we do take pride in our publication. The way to
subscribe is to simply visit the New American dot com
and you know, pretty user ferently from there, and there's
a little button or a ribbon at the top of
the page, I should say. But also a lot of

(21:47):
people don't realize that the New American is the magazine
of the John Birch Society. And even though that seems
like maybe an archaic name to some people because they're like, oh,
is that still around? Well, yes, we're very much still around,
alive and kicking and doing great things. The unique thing
about the John Brush Society is that we uh, we

(22:08):
inspire people to work at the local level and work
within their own precinct and within their own home turf.
You know, you don't you don't have to go out
and be somebody big and great. You can you can
work on your own home turf and take this information
that we gathered and put it to use at home.
People don't. People don't understand that, you know, your local

(22:30):
sheriff has so much power to protect you against a
lot of this even federal government overreach into your life.
And we have we have people in every single almost
every single precinct in the country. There are there are butchers.
That's the goal at least and every single precinct in
the country to to get there. And it's it's basically

(22:52):
an educational organization, and that's why we invest so much
time in all of this intensive research that we published
in the New American magazine. We do the research so
you've got it there at your fingertips and you can
put an into action on your home turf at your
local level. That way, we have a coordinated national effort
going on in the various localities, all at the same time.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Now, a lot of the things that John Birch Society
wrote about years ago were conspiracy theory. Unfortunately, the conspiracy
theory came out to be true. People laughed at it,
and now it's happening. This is incredible. They were so
far ahead of the ahead of the curve that it
wasn't funny. And people would say, you know, if somebody

(23:36):
told you five years ago, ten years ago, twenty years
ago that we'd be under a socialist system where we'd
have one party that's primarily socialist in the United States,
they'd say, you're crazy, We'll never go with a socialist system. No,
we fought them too long and they understood. But now
here we are. All the things that they predicted were

(23:57):
would happen if we didn't take You didn't want them
to happen. That's one of the things that John Birch
Society worked for, so they wouldn't happen. But they're here
now and it's more important than ever to heed the
call of what is being said. And one of the
things that you wrote about was the COVID hospitals. This
was one of the best articles I've ever read. You

(24:18):
wrote an article called the COVID Hospitals the New Killing Fields.
And Selwyn Duke, your friend there, wrote an article about
the Ghost of Nuremberg, how that Fauci and others need
to be brought up on the Nuremberg Code and what
they're doing. These were two articles came out almost the
same week, and boy, I'm telling you, those two had

(24:39):
an impact on me, and I know they had an
impact on others. People have really talked to you, with
you quite a bit about the New Killing Fields, and
you were in the position to write it. Be a
nurse yourself, you understood, didn't you.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I did. In fact, when when COVID first hit, I
smelled herrat.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I kind of.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
I had a little bit of inside information because I
have a friend who lives over in China, an American
who lives in China has been in contact with me,
and I thought some is not making sense here. And
then when in March of twenty twenty, when they came
down and declared this pandemic, I thought no, especially when
they started with all of their lockdowns of the healthy

(25:20):
and wearing masks, and unlike nobody in western medicine should
give everyone should stand up and say absolutely not. Masking
is one of the worst things you can do for
your health. When you wear a mask, I don't care
what kind of mask it is. When you wear a mask,
you're restricting, you're rebreathing your own germs effectively. And there's

(25:43):
a time and a place for that, you know, when
you want to make sure to not inhale certain bad things,
but you break off the mask as soon as it's
safe to do so. Now, these small, these little cloth
masks and things like that were popular and that I
even still see people wearing sometime, which is just saying
to me there after fifteen minutes, they're completely ineffective anyway,

(26:05):
And we'll tell you this on the packaging on the boxes,
So tell you don't wear it for any longer than this,
because it's completely ineffective and you're actually hurting your health rather.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
But you know, we see people driving down the road
wearing a mask in a car by themselves. I see
people out walking a dog by themselves along the sidewalk
wearing a mask. I mean, just people became so compliant.
Part of this was to see if people would become
that compliant. And there are other parts that are even

(26:37):
more nefarious to take control. And then of course when
they came out with this, some of the COVID shots
and things like that, lobes feel like it was for
population control. It may be because when you talk about
the new killing fields in the hospital, they had an
opportunity to use products to especially ivermectin and the other

(27:03):
one hydroxy work when that they know work, and they
came out with them Disappear cost about five thousand dollars
or something terrible price, didn't work, throw up the kidneys
and they had and they put all their efforts into
doing the prevention with a clock shot, with the advisor
and with the maderna. Now this was a terrible wrong move.

(27:26):
But was it a wrong move? I think it had
to be done on purpose. These were not stupid people.
It had to be done on purpose. And what would
the purpose be to control the population, but also to
limit the population. That's why they went opened up the
nursing homes. Nobody went to jail on that one. How
many people died when they did that, Rebecca, this is

(27:49):
just a terrible cadraid that happen. Yes, and nobody's called
the jail for deppopulation. I mean, this is this is
worse than doctor Mingle, This is worse than Nazi Germany.
This is is Selwyn Duke wrote, this is time for
another Numberg trial on some of these people. This is

(28:11):
absolute insanity what we have allowed to have happened. We
put Nazis to death for it. We've got our own
people doing it to our own people. We need to
have a trial on these people, in my opinion. Go ahead,
you're amen.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I think that you're absolutely right. But also we need
to we need to do some introspection here too as
a society, because you know, we're supposedly the land of
the free and the home of the brave.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
We saw people, We see people cowering because, oh my goodness,
this virus is gonna get No it's not, no, it's
not going.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
We've got to give the shots to kids now, all
the children. We can't keep them mouse goool, all the children.
And we know for a fact that children do not
have the receptor sites. The number of death is point
oh two percent. Nobody dies as a child. They generally
don't even get the COVID as children, they don't have
the receptor sites, and yet we want to give it

(29:06):
to them, which will affect them the rest of their lives.
We know now that these COVID shots will actually reduce
your chance of fighting off infections in one day another
because it destroys the immune system. We know this now,
they're still doing it, They're still pushing it.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
They're still doing it. And you know that year that
they had all the kiss kids and masks in the school,
there were scientific studies that showed that the level of
carbon dioxide underneath those masks was far exceeded the EPA's
limits on carbon dioxide atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Car we're destroying a generation of children. We are absolutely
destroying a generation of our children. They are behind in school,
the school grades. Look at them, and look at what's
going on, the socialization and everything. We're destroying them and
then giving it to kill children and young people. How
many young people are dropping over dead with mildcarditis, how

(30:05):
many are having heart attacks on the field and all
of this. It's incredible. I mean, if this doesn't make
you mad, nothing will. Nothing will.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
And let's look at the let's look at the suicide rate.
And look at what happened. This is crazy. Look at
what happened in Africa when it came out that hydroxy
corkland was effective against COVID. All of a sudden, hydroxy
clerquin which is sold over the counter there because it's
a mailarial preventative. People take it. It's called the Sunday
Sunday drug because they take it once a week. Right,

(30:35):
all of a sudden, its appeared off the shelves because
they just want you to know that hydroxychloricine secure covid.
And so now they're opening up this can of worms,
allowing them to put putting, making them more vulnerable to malaria,
which kills one million people a year, mostly children under
five in Sub Saharan Africa. Right, and that is that's

(30:58):
been a direct attack on the on the kid to
Now what they did is.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
In India versus other places, they gave people the hydroxy
chloroquin and they stopped the complete pandemic in India in
about a week. It was completely over.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, in most places. The very few places that they
didn't do that saw saw covid. But other than that, yeah,
you're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
But they were firing nurses if you're a nurse and
you tell somebody to use hydroxy to use ivermectin, you
can get fired. They were firing nurses for doing that
in the hospitals in the United States of America, and
people had to sit there and watch their loved ones
die if they were even loud in or they put
them on respirators, where your chance of surviving that's about

(31:49):
one in thirty. I mean, they were killing people in
the hospitals where you go to be saved. This wasscene obscene.
It was abomination to life.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
And the scariest thing is now we are supposedly a
free country. No we're not. If we have a government,
a federal government that's telling us what we have to
inject into our own bodies, that's just that's not a
free country. I mean, hello, communist China, you know that
we need we and what we do. We do still

(32:24):
have our constitution in place. We need to work very
hard to protect it because it is the only thing
standing between us and tyranny, you know. And we're going
to if we do, if we do allow them to
rewrite it, we are going to get the same, the
same kind of thing that Canadians have now a document
that says rights come from government. If they come from government,

(32:45):
the government can take them away whenever it wants to.
Our constitution says our rights come from God, and the
government is there to protect those rights. And that is
the only reason government is there. It's not there to
tell us what we need to take medically. It's not
there to tell us what we need to do with
our own private property, or how we have to educate
our children, or any of the other things that it

(33:06):
is usurped from the individual, from our individual freedom suits.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
The key is the key is our rights are the
rights of the individual. Nowhere else are rights are the
rights guaranteed by God? Nowhere else is the individual important.
But the Democratic Party is not doing that. They're not
talking about the individual. They're talking about classes. They're talking
about blacks, Hispanics. They're putting people in classes, not individuals.

(33:36):
God believes in individuals, because no two people have the
same fingerprints that told me that God believes in individuals.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
They are pitting they're trying to put us into classes
to pit us against each other. And that is a
classic communist tactic. We saw it so much, of course
in the sixties, which just seemed to be the decade
of insanity in this country, and it's re spiraled out
of control since then. But yeah, you're absolutely right. We

(34:06):
need we need to realize, No, we're all Americans. It
doesn't matter what color your skin is or what your
background is. We're all Americans and everybody wants to be
free and we we can't think of things as, oh,
this is for the greater good. No, there is no
greater good if individual liberty is set to not there

(34:26):
is no there's no greater good than individual liberty. That
is what protects the greater the real greater good, you.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Know, absolutely, the greater good is individual liberty, liberty for all.
And we have to have liberty and truth because we're
not getting the truth. Are we going to see a
change in the media. That's why I say the New
American tells it the way it is. But you don't

(34:55):
have a television network or anything like that, so you
have to read that. Very few people are reading anymore.
But we need to have somewhere where we can get
the truth other than Fox, and you have to question
that and Newsmax, which is pretty good. You really, we
don't have an outlet that really tells us what we

(35:17):
need to know the questions people. That gives us the truth.
We have a real first and for truth and we've
got to have it quenched. You know. I'm like, remember Nicholson,
you can't handle the truth. We need the truth right now.
You can't make a decision unless you have the truth.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
You know, and if you don't and if you don't
have time to read, if you have time to, you know,
listen as you're working. We do have a number of
videos too. We interview all the all of the big
names in all of these areas, and we have those
interviews on our website too. So just visit the New
American dot com and also JPS dot org which stands
for John Birch Society. Great information there. So yeah, I

(36:03):
know a lot of people is it is sometimes hard
to find the time to read. It would be great
for people to turn off the TV because that's like
an open line of sewage coming into your home.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
It is what it is. We'll be right back with
Rebecca Torrell. Remember the New American dot Com. That is
a publication, highly highly recommended above anything else. The Biden
administration is quickly moving to implement the liberal fantasy of
socialist spending. After spending a two point one trillion dollar stimulus,
the President and the Democratic led Congress have introduced another

(36:37):
three trillion dollar plan to add to our insturmentable death,
seeking to raise taxes all Americans make you as little
as two hundred thousand a year. Have you seen the
immigration footage eighty seven million putting illegals in hotel rooms
and our troops sleeping on parking garage floors? Could this
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Rebecca Drell, editor of The New American, Rebecca, I was
thinking about what we've been lied to about. We were

(37:37):
lied to about nine to eleven. We were lied to
about the candy assassination. We were lied to about Iraq.
We were lied to about the COVID. We have been
lied to on every major event in this country, have
we not? This is terrible.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
We have and you know what need to also realize
that the pattern is after every lie, what has happened
to our federal government?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
It has balloons. It is expanded every lie, it has
been expanded. We're the only ones can help you who
through this. First they lie to you, then they tell
tell you the big lie is that we can help you.
You know, I'm from the government. I'm here to help you.
The words that Roald Reagan said nobody wants to hear.
But that's what they're telling them, isn't it. That's right.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
And you know when you see that consistent pattern, you
know that there's a plan. Because if it were just
by chance, it would sometimes work in our favor. You know,
after a lie, there would be less government. Every once
in a while that would happen. But no, there's more
government and more government and more government, till we are
now in a situation where our federal government is even

(38:49):
telling us what we have to inject into our own bodies.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Absolutely, and you know there's one organization that's been at
the center of all this, it's the CIA, yeah, right, right,
who wanted to get rid of.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Right, right, And maybe they got rid of him in
good right, but right. But you know again, I go
back to that the Land of the Free and the
home of the brave. There there is a thought process
that seems to permeate our society right now, that there's
no fate worse than death. And I would argue that
our generations you've come before us, who fought in World

(39:29):
Wars two, who fought in World War One, who fought
in the American Civil War and the Revolutionary War, these
were men who realized, yes, there is something worse than death,
and that's tyranny. And living under tyranny is worse than death.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Is worth me.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Putting my life on the line to maintain this freedom
for myself, my family, and my country.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's better to die on your feet, bravery, bravely than
to whimper on your knees. I mean, it really is.
We're not. We're I've always been a country that would
stand up the people in the Revolutionary War, people in
World War two, all the wars, they have stood up,
and they have been able to say, you know, it
doesn't matter I'm going to fight for my country. I'm

(40:13):
going to fight for the future. I'm going to fight
for God and my family. This was important. We've lost
our values, Rebecca.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Yeah, and I do you know, I acknowledge that World
War two, World War One, these big wars were orchestrated
by the insiders, by what I call the conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yes, but we had to win by the same token.
We had to win because our way of life was threatened,
and the entire world was threatened by the niac illness
of Adolf Hitler and Tojo and all of this. We
had to win. We were fighting for our very soul.
We've lost the soul of America. We've become whimpy, We've

(40:53):
become weak. And even men are not men anymore. Women
aren't women anymore. It has gotten y right.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
They're willing to accept slavery over death.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Oh my god, it's all all fits in. Men aren't men,
and more women aren't women anymore. And we've got transgenderism
and all this being pushed in school and little children.
It all fits in. It's all part of the plan.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yes it is. But I'll tell you what. We know
what the last page does. There's gonna be some there
will be martyrs along the way, and I'm not saying
it's going to be an easy rise that do you know?
God wins in the end, so we just need to
make sure that we're on his side of things.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I know he wins in the end, But what a
arriety think is on to get there right? I think
this is a time where we're seeing the separation between
the wheat and the shaft because the evil or demonic
sides is showing themselves now more than ever before. Do
you believe that, Rebecca, I do.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I absolutely absolutely we do. Like I said before, it's
so easy for us to look back at history and say, oh, yeah,
all these things happened in but they don't you know
those things, those things don't happen now. Yes, we definitely
have the demonic.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
It's all happening right now before us. This is the
most critical juncture of time that has ever occurred. This
is the end times. It has been written about, and
it is occurring. And we are here for a reason.
And the reason isn't to sit back and watch TV,
and the reason isn't to play games with electioneering. The

(42:35):
reason is for us to do God's work here and
do what God would want was to do here and
do the right thing. That's the reason, because eternity is forever.
I hate to get into a preaching mode, but that's
exactly where we're at. Rebecca. God bless you and thank
you for all you're doing. That's a new American. I
love talking with you.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
I love talking with you as well. Thank you so much,
Thank you all.

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