Ep.173 Faces In The Night (Throwback)

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We will be starting off with Dan in Canada and his witness submission, it's good to hear from Dan, he was a past guest and has another sighting to share. Then we cross the border and make our way to Pennsylvania and speak with Jay about his experiences, in particular an incident from his childhood.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report
a UFO hanging in We don't want to report every
thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey,
we want to one of those areas thirty one.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Do you wish to find a report of any kind
of it? I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds time.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Areas thirty one me neither there. See if it was
anybody above us to pass us, Like thirty seconds ago,
we were sending one of golf negative.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, OFFI the UFO.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, I'll passed over God.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't know what it was, but it's from at
least to three thousand feet above us.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
See, I passed right over the top of us ninety
one one. You just called both to me be four
they're after staying the airplanes here to god.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Calm on an unidentified object every Liberty four call or
calm on an unidentified flying object. A Welcome to UFO
Chronicles a place where people share their experiences of the
strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter, I would

(01:25):
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at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. Hello everyone, and

(01:49):
welcome to the show. Wherever in the world you are
listening from. I hope you're all well and doing good.
I'm Nick Hunter and this is UFO Chronicles podcast. We
will if we're starting off with Dan in Canada and
his witness submission. It's good to hear from Dan. He
was a past guest and has another sighting to share.
Then we cross the border and head to Pennsylvania and

(02:11):
speak to Jay about his experiences with an incident from
his childhood. But first, a big thank you to our
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Speaker 3 (03:21):
Hi Nick, Let's stand from Peterborough, Canada, a former guest
on your show. It was episode one thirty See the Lights,
and I just wanted to call and let you know
about another sighting that I did have. It wasn't as
grand as the last one, that's for sure, but I
thought I would call and let you and the viewers

(03:41):
know about it, just in case anybody else could relate
to it, because it was something very very cool and unusual.
It was December, possibly around the tenth of just this
past year, and we were in Peterborough, my wife and I.
She was driving, and we were around our local university
and I looked up in the western sky. It was

(04:02):
about four o'clock. It was very clearer day, bright sunny,
just a few whispy clouds going by, and I looked
in the western sky and I said to my wife,
my God, like that is a super bright star for
this time of day. For the first one to come out,
and I looked at the clock and that's when I
realized it was just maybe ten past four and that, oh,
that's way too really for stars to come out. I mean,

(04:22):
it was extremely bright and extremely it looked like a
very bright star like Venus would early in the evening.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And then it.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Started coming down closer and closer, and I said to
my wife, like, it's actually coming down. That starts coming
closer to us. And then I noticed it it was
just above the whispy clouds and then it was below them,
and she said, well, actually, when it was yeah, coming down,
she said, could it be a drone? And I said,

(04:52):
I've never seen a drone fly that much higher than
the clouds. And then it came down below the cloud
line and then it became maybe three hundred feet above
the ground and it was I could actually see at
this point the sun was shimmering on it like it
was like a metallic kind of but it was a
complete ball as circle ball, just like the ones I

(05:14):
had seen before. But this was in the daytime. I've
never seen it in the day so that was pretty amazing.
It was yeah, like metallic like shining off of it
so I could get a good glimpse of it, and
I thought, oh wow, like a lot of other people
might start to see it, because it was quite a
busy time of day, four o'clock around the university. And
then just as I thought, I hope it doesn't cause

(05:36):
like a mass sighting or panic or anything. And then
it started to go back up and it went up
above the clouds, the whispy clouds, and then nick came
below them, and then it went above them and then
below them, and then it went back up to being
a star. It was so far away, and then it
was bright like a star again, and then the cloud

(05:59):
slowly moved over it and the star slowly disappeared, and
that was the end of that. It lasted maybe a
minute and a half to two minutes from the point
I saw the star in the sky to when it
came down three hundred feet and then went right back
up to being a star, and it was pretty amazing.
So I thought i'd call and let you know, because

(06:19):
I've heard you say before, no sighting is too big
or too small, and I'm sure some other people might
relate to it. It's quite fascinating how when I see
them they're complete balls. Like when growing up in the
seventies and eighties, I always thought it would be like
a flying disk, like a frisbee type thing to cut
through the atmosphere. But there are complete balls, and it's

(06:40):
amazing to see. And that's about all. And I just
wanted to mention maybe other people can relate to the
other ones that I saw that I mentioned in the
past podcast. When I saw the light spinning inside of
the circle object at night time, it almost looked like

(07:02):
it would be a lighthouse light in the middle, and
it would spin to the left, and then as soon
as it got to the far left, it would bounce
and swing to the right, and it would go left right,
and it would change colors as it would hit the
left and right side. And so that's just another way
I figured I could explain it as kind of a

(07:22):
lighthouse going around, but I don't know if it went
all the way around. When it went to as far
left as I could see, it pinged and went back
to the right and then pinged off of there, and
it was changing colors at the same time. If anyone
has seen and can relate, hopefully that helps to describe that. Anyways,
I just want to say thanks again for the work
that you do.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Nick.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
You make us very comfortable for coming forward and sharing
our stories, and we really really appreciate all the work
that you do. And have a great day and I'll
talk to you soon.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Thanks Nick, Hello Jay, and welcome to the show. You
doing I'm doing good. Thank you. It's great to have
you come on today. And you're calling from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, it's right outside Pittsburgh. It's a little town called
beat Re Fall.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
You're at the city. That's always a good thing with
in the hustle and bustle, right, yeah, Now, Jay, you'll
be sharing an encounter that you remember having when you
were five years old. Would you like to stand in
the very beginning, please?

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Jay? Sure. I'm originally from Toledo, Ohio. I grew up
on this on a street called bake Well. I don't
know if you have any listeners in Toledo or not, hopefully,
but that was my hometown. I grew up there. I
was there until I was twenty two, and I moved
out eventually, but I can remember when I was five

(08:45):
years old, we moved into this house where I ended
up spending the next eighteen years and something to that.
I can't say. It was really strange. But after, you know,
listening to another podcast that I listened to, Coast to Coast,

(09:05):
I am and somebody they had a guest on that
was talking about Manchester being encounters. Well, my story is
similar to you know other mantis encounters that you've probably heard.
But I can remember, Okay, Now, the house that I
grew up in, it was converted. It used to be

(09:28):
it was a really old house. It was a one story,
had a flat roof, and it used to be like
a convenience store way back in the day, way before
it got converted into a house. So the ceilings we're
probably about i'd say eight and a half nine foot tall.
And I can remember we had just moved into the house.

(09:51):
I was there maybe maybe a week, and we didn't
have everything set up yet in my bedroom, so I
slept in my parents' bed and they always went to
bed later. I was in bed by eight thirty nine
o'clock every night as a five year old. I can
remember I'm laying on my bed and like I said,

(10:11):
I had eaten half night foot tall steel and it
was weird to my five year old mind, I thought
I was looking at a giant grasshopper. To me, that's
where it looked like. And all I could see was
the head and the face of this being, and it

(10:34):
was I knew it was tall because the head was
right in the upper corner of my bedroom, so this
thing had to have been at least nine foot tall.
And it was weird because, like I said, in my
five year old nine, I thought it was a giant grasshopper.

(10:56):
And that was on a first encounter with this thing,
because I woke up next morning. I can remember looking
around because I learned in school that insects lay eggsacts
you know, they had eggs, So I remember looking around
my room the next morning for an egg sax. I
couldn't find anything. And you know, it didn't scare me

(11:17):
or anything at first, But then the encounter happened again
that night, and it was the strangest thing because this
being would just scare at me. It wouldn't make any
movements towards me, you know what I mean, nothing, It
would be just I can I remember looking over in
the corner, rolling over in my bed, looking up at

(11:39):
this thing, and it was staring directly at me and eventually.
I don't know why, but eventually I was scared of
it because I remember pulling my covers up over my head,
you know, as you do it as a five year
old and you're scared. I pulled the covers up over
my head, you know, trying to get away from this thing,
because I was. And these encounters happened for about a

(12:03):
week at least, It was about a week, maybe a
week and a half, every night, and it was in
the same exact spot in my room. My bed was
setting on the left side of the room long ways,
well my parents' bed anyway, and it was a pretty
large bedroom, and it could like there was a door

(12:26):
on my right that led out to the living room
and the dining room and everything, but beyond that are
on the opposite side of that door is where I've
seen this mantis seine every night for about a week
and a half. And I don't know why, but I
for some reason, I just forgot about it, right and
it just stops coming, like I never seen it again

(12:48):
after that. But the strangest thing happened to me probably
a month, maybe maybe a little less after that. I
would get these Okay, I was kind of a bad kid.
I was, you know, I was, you know, always getting
in the stuff, and my parents couldn't take it all
the time, so they would make me stay in bed

(13:09):
no matter what time I woke up. They would make
me stay in bed until like ten o'clock in the
morning so they could get there. You know, I understand
it now as an adult and a father, but you know,
they had to get their parents. I had to drink
their coffee smoke their cigarettes before they dealt with a
rambunctious five year olds. So they would make me stay
in bed. And I can remember waking up staying in bed,

(13:33):
and I knew when it was okay to get up.
I didn't have a clock or anything or a watch
at the time, but I knew when it was okay
to get out of my room and start my day
because I would hear The Price Is Right on TV.
My mother watched it religiously, and that came on at
eleven o'clock in the morning every morning, so I knew

(13:53):
it was okay to get up. But I would lay there,
and this happened for a really long time. I would
lay there and all of the sounds in the house
would amplify. Now to give you a more of a
clearer picture of all the sounds in the house my
dad raised. I lived in a house over on Bakewell.
I don't know if you have listeners in Toledo, Ohio

(14:15):
on that, but they would know where Bakewell Street is
over on the east side of Toledo. I went to
Birmingham School. I graduated from White High School in ninety six.
But my dad would raise he had birds. He had
cocky teals, the little gray ones, and you know, they
were really noisy. And my dad used to talk on

(14:35):
a CBE radio all the time, citizens Band Radio. He
had a bunch of friends on there, and he always
had a TV gump at the same time. And all
of the sounds in the house, including the air conditioner
that was on or the heater, whichever it was at
the time. Like I said, this happened for a long time.
All of the sounds in the house would amplify inside

(14:58):
my head, like I could hear it as clear as
you're hearing me now, I could hear it. But all
the sounds would come together and they would amplify, and
it almost made me like I can remember coming out
of my room crying to my dad because I thought
something was happening to me for some reason. I feel

(15:19):
like that's all tied in to this mansus being encounter.
I don't know why, I just feel like it is.
And then one other strange encounter that I had when
I was I was probably about fifteen sixteen years old,
and I don't know, you know, if they travel in

(15:40):
spaceships or how they travel, you know, on this planet
or in this plane. But I was about fifteen sixteen
years old and I'm walking. We have a bridge in Toledo,
It's called the uh Martin Luther King Junior Bridge. I
was walking across this bridge and right downtown Toledo there

(16:03):
is a thirty two story glass building. Back when I
lived there, it was called the Oi Building for some reasons.
But now it's fifth third Banks and it's thirty two
story fault. It's all glass.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's right near We have entertainment there. Every summer, Raley
by the River goes on. I don't know if it
still goes long or not, but it used to go
on there all the time. But this was about twelve
one o'clock in the morning. I'm I'm by myself. I'm
going to meet a front downtown because we were going
to hang out and drink, you know, sixteen year olds.

(16:38):
So I'm walking across this bridge and I don't know
if you're familiar with the video of it was on
top of the Dome of the Rock. I forget what
country it is now. Yeah, you know how that you've
seen that video where that light is over the top
of the Dome of the Rock and all of a sudden,
it just a big bright it flashes and it it

(17:01):
just shoots up straight up. Well, this thing, it's like
so many of your other callers said when they encounter UFOs.
This thing had a liquid movement to it, almost like
you would see. It wasn't really a light. It was
like a diamond glistening. And Okay, I'm in the middle

(17:22):
of the bridge and this building that I'm telling you about,
it's probably maybe a half mile quarter mile away from
me on top of the bridge, and standing there, I'm
looking at it, at this thing, and it slowly moves.
It's on the right side of the building. It slowly
moves from the right and to me, it looked like

(17:45):
it went through the building. But I don't think it
back on it. Now. I don't think it did it.
It just went behind the building where I couldn't see
it for a second, and then when it appeared on
the other side of the building, it just shot up
like nothing I've ever seen before in my life. And
I hope I get to see it again, actually something similar,

(18:05):
because now that I'm older, I know you know what,
you know certain things that are happening on this planet.
My mind just been opened to certain things. And it
was the most amazing thing I ever saw it. Literally,
it was just hovering there for a minute, and like
I said, it had a fluid motion to it. I

(18:26):
can't tell if it was rotating, you know what I mean.
I couldn't tell, but it had kind of like a
diamond if you were shining to if you were shining
of light in a diamond, that type of sparkle to it,
and it just shot straight. I think it knew that
I was looking at it, because I don't know look
thinking back on it, I just got that feeling that

(18:47):
it knew I was observing it because like I said,
it went from the left side of the building, the
thirty two story buildings and you know, around back of
it to the right side, and it moves probably about
my view. It looked like, you know, it wasn't that far,
maybe an inch view, but I'm guessing maybe two three

(19:09):
hundred feet away from the building, and it was hovering.
Like I said, this building is thirty two stories tall.
I don't know how many feet that is. It was
probably about a quarter away from the top of the building,
right over the Malmie River, and it just shot straight
up like I've never seen anything move so fast in

(19:32):
my life, and I still haven't seen anything move that
fast in real life. But it just shot up. And
when I looked up at it to see where it went,
and it was weird too, because it didn't leave any
Like I said, it was glistening like a diamond, but
there was no streak. There was no streak behind it.

(19:53):
It just kind of like, I don't know, it was instantaneous.
It just shot straight up in the sky and it
was summer night. It was relatively clear, and I've seen
when I looked up to see where it went, there
was probably like three or four red scots in sequence,
and they weren't blinking or anything. They were steady on them,

(20:14):
but they were so dim you could barely see them,
but you know, standing there looking to see where this
thing went. I could see that almost positive. It was
in shape of a triangle, and then all of a sudden,
the lights just disappeared, and they didn't they just kind
of like faded out. And that was the last time
I ever seen anything like that. So but like I said,

(20:37):
it was I don't know man, that that man to see,
you know, the days before you know, I knew I
was gonna be on this podcast. I've actually been looking
into it and then I find myself secretly hoping that
it does show itself to me again because from what
I've read, they lived hundreds of years anyway, So I

(20:59):
see one again, hopefully it's the same one, because I'm curious.
You know, why were you staring at me? Don't all
five year old DA's the same, you know what I mean?
Like kid a kid, the kid. So why I observed
me for a week like you did and then just
disappear It was, I don't know, it was weird.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
It's usually a reason for it, and a lot of
these these encounters that people have a childhood that's usually
only really the beginning, can sometimes continue on for right life,
and it can also include family members and that. But
it's it's strange how it was a new house. You
don't remember it happening in your in your previous property, No.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I don't. And it wasn't a new house. I mean
it was it was an older house. They had to
do some repairs to it and stuff like that. So honestly,
maybe I was thinking as a kid, you know, there
could be insects in the house, you know, now, you
know I mean, like I said to my five year
old lone, and the head I forgot to mention. The
head on this thing was the size of the human,

(22:00):
like an adult human being, so you know what I mean.
Like I said, at first, I didn't think anything weird.
I just thought, maybe, you know, that's how big grasshoppers
got when they reached maturity, or you know what I mean.
I didn't know. I didn't know until years later, like
I said. And I was listening to Coast to Coast

(22:21):
and they were talking about it, and I actually looked
up what a mantis being looked like on Google, you know,
like the artists rendering or whatever, and there was one
picture I came across and it was exact like the
head and everything looked exactly like I remember from my
encounter and when.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
You first saw it. Now, I know, I appreciate it.
It was a long time ago, especially trying to remember
things happened when you were five. I know, I struggle.
When you used to go to bed. Did you used
to go to bed early?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, between eight thirty nine o'clock every night because I had.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
School, and so do you remember do you remember it
used to be dark when you'd go to bed.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, it was dark. And that's another thing too. I
never seen it during the day. I never had any encounters,
you know, during the day. I never seen anything. Of course,
at the five year old, I wasn't looking, you know
what I mean. I don't know. I don't know if
this has anything to do with him or not, but
I can't remember. It was like a year later. I
picked up what I thought was a butterfly cocoon because

(23:26):
I wanted a butterfly in my room for some reason.
And it turns out my dad was so mad. I
remember this. I picked up this thing and what I
know now was an egg sack, and I picked it
up outside and I put it in my door, and
I forgot about it for almost two weeks to a month.

(23:50):
And my dad was so mad. I can't remember. I
came from from school and he was cleaning my room,
you know, like parents do, and he opened my drawer
and he said, hundreds of little tiny baby praying mantiss
came out of my drawer. Apparently I had picked up

(24:11):
an exact from a praying manace. And I don't know
why my dad said it back in the day, but
he said, you know, it's illegal. You could go to
jail for killing a praying MANSI I don't I can't
remember if they were in danger of being you know,
on the extinction level, you know, back then, or whatever.
I doubt it, but for some reason, my dad told

(24:31):
me that you're not supposed to kill him. And I
never did. But I can remember I came home and
there's still there's still a good number of them. My
dad kind of brushed them onto a piece of paper
and talked them outside. But I can remember I came
home and there was still a good number of them
crawling all over my dress, and I didn't really do

(24:54):
anything about it. I thought it was cool, and eventually
they I never seen him again. I don't know what
I up.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Until It's always good to Terran telling your kids. They
could go to prison for something like that. I could
get arrested.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah right. I don't know if they were on the
endangered list back in the eighties. I don't think so,
but I mean, I don't know. Anything could be possible.
I feel like I'm not scared of them now either.
Like like I said, I found myself hoping that I
do see dismantis, being that this isn't me when I
was five year old kid, or at least a different ones.

(25:30):
I find myself hoping that I do have another account,
like because every like I don't even help out. I
don't know why it is, but like I how if
I see like they get they get really large. I
don't know if you've seen some of them in the
United States or not, but some of the training manage
to get really big, big as your hand. If I
see one in the road or something like that, I'll

(25:51):
pick it up so don't get hit by a car,
and I'll set it on the tree or something, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, it's always good to help nature, right, Yeah, that's
always good doing. I've never seen in the States, but
I've seen him. I've seen him in the tropics, and yeah,
they can get very they can get very big. Yeah yeah,
not the size of an adult.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well no, And that's the thing. Yeah, that's the thing
that weird me out. It was the size of it.
The head, And that's another weird thing. That's the only
thing I saw was the head of this creature. I
don't know why. I don't know. Maybe he was trying
to conceal himself, so I didn't freak out. But like
I said, it never made a move towards me. It

(26:30):
just stood there and stared at me until I was
asleep and I woke up the next morning. Especially, like
I said on my first account, I woke up the
next morning and I started looking for eggs, thinking maybe
there's a you know, I'm gonna have grasshoppers crawling room
when when I'm sleeping, But never found anything.

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Speaker 2 (28:04):
You dare.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
So.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
You couldn't see a body, just purely a head. Was
the head illuminated all or was it just just there
in the dark?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah? And yeah, And that's the thing too. It was illuminated.
That's another thing I don't understand now thinking back on it.
Thanks for asking that question. Because it was illuminated. I
don't know how it wasn't with a light though, it
was just like it had its own glow to it.
I guess you would say, you know what I mean

(28:42):
that it was right in the corner of the room,
so the room was pitch black, and especially the corner
when the bedroom door was closed, that corner was pitch black,
and the head, I don't know. I couldn't really tell
if he was stooping or if that's how tall it was.
But the head reached the top of my eight and

(29:03):
a half night foot tall ceiling, and it was like
right at the top of this very corner. I'm looking
at my apartment right now, and I can almost see
this thing clarin at me.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
So when you're in your bed, you would have been
on the right side of the room and the corner
would have been on the left side.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Is that right, No, I was on Well, the bed
was on the left side of the room, and dis
mansis being was on the right. And it was like
my bed was right up against it was in the
corner of a room, so it was right up against
a back wall and a sidewall, and we had a
clearance on the right side of the bed to where

(29:41):
he could walk through the room and everything get out
the door, and you know, the pretty big clearance. Like
I said, it was a big room. I don't know
whatever he used for it, you know, like I said,
it used to be a store, like a little convenience,
but it's no longer there anymore. And I'd really be
interested to find out anybody in eighty two that lived

(30:03):
in toyo Ohio, you know, if they'd seen anything, you know,
if there was anything in the area, anything reported, you know,
because I wasn't imagine I know this for a fact.
I wasn't dreaming, you know, because like I said, I
can actually remember being scared. Eventually, the first time, I

(30:24):
wasn't scared. I was more curious than anything. But and
that's another thing too. I was curious about it the
first day, the first night that I thought it, but
I couldn't get up to investigate. Something was telling me
not to get out of the bed like I wanted to.
But something was telling me not to get out of bed,

(30:45):
you know, leave it alone. And the weird thing is
I never told my parents about it, not one.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I was gonna want to ask you, I ask
you that, how do you think they would have reacted
if you had told him?

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I don't know. My dad was, I don't know. He
was in his own thing. He had a couple of
gardens that he tended all the time. My dad, See,
my parents were older when I was born. My dad
was in his early forties and my mom was in
her mid thirty so, you know what I mean. I
was born like I wasn't. My parents weren't really hands

(31:19):
on like I have been with my daughter, you know
what I mean. They never I never did things with them. Really.
I always had friends that I played with and you know,
and stuff like that. My parents were the type of
parents like get out of the house. You're bugging the crap, Bobby,
go get out of the house, come back at dinner,
and then after dinner, come back when the light durn

(31:41):
you know, I mean, you're not allowed back in the
house for the light, especially during summer vacation.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, that's stuff. So I can relate to.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, you see the street lights on, you got to
come back in or at least stand right or be
right in the in the yard or something to where.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
My parents continued right and the eventures we used to have.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Oh yeah, no, man, you can't do that anymore. You
can't let your kid go out and play anymore, and
you know, be a kid. And that's sad.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
It is sad. I mean, don't get me wrong. Those
the dangers that we have today, there was still were
present in those days. It's just it wasn't a thing.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, people weren't. I mean, parents were aware of it,
but they weren't you know, that concern with it. I
guess I don't know my parents did. Democrat. I got
to like I would leave all day, like seriously, my parents.
I would leave and during summer vacation, I would leave
at ten o'clock in the morning. I'd be gone the
entire day. Twelve thirteen years old, I'm gone the entire day.

(32:40):
I don't come back until nine ten o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, I would really love to see this man just
being again. No, it was like now that I know,
I would actually, you know, just I don't know how
they communicate, either telepathically or what it is, but I
would like to have, you know, sit down and have
a common station with this being, find out where he's from,
you know what I mean, why were you staring at me?

(33:06):
Like what to do with that? Kind of creepy? But
I guess on an alien level, you know, it's not
really that greevy like we discussed. From what I've read,
they're just observers. They have a scientific mind. They're observers.
They watch people. They don't really like you said, they
have been involved in abductions, but I've never read about

(33:27):
them doing the actual stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
And when when you'd see him, would he just I say,
he would would the being just vanish and then you
just drift off to sleep.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I don't know. I can't really remember all of it,
but I think what would happen is I would just
be at ease with it for some reason, and eventually
I would go to sleep. From what I can remember,
whether I was asleep first and I woke up because
I felt something staring at me, or if it happened

(34:00):
I'm trying to remember. I think it would happen like
right after the lights would go off and the house
would be quiet except for my dad occasionally talking on
the CBE radio verdiot. That's when it happened. I would
I would roll over trying to go to sleep because
my dad was talking literally and which was literally twelve

(34:21):
feet away from me. He would be talking. I'd be
started on to go to sleep, and I'd roll over
and i'd book up and I would see the beam.
It never freaked me out the first time, but you know,
two or three days later, when it kept happening, you
know I did start to, you know, get a little worried,
a little scared. As a five year old, remember pulling

(34:44):
my blankets up over my head, trying to hide from
the thing.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Now that a month after, when you when you ask
experience with the sound where all the sound was amplified,
do you think that's connected with his with his month's experience.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I do I actually do. And I don't know why
I think it was connected, but for some reason, I
feel like it was because I also felt I can
also I remember when I first I don't know, it's
hard to explain the type of feeling you get. But
after all, the sounds in my house would amplify and
it wouldn't last that long either. It would maybe last

(35:19):
a minute or two at the longest two minutes, and
then everything would go back to normal. All the sounds
would be separate like they're supposed to. I could differentiate
from my dad's TV radio, the birds, the TV, you know,
all the noise. I could differentiate. But at the time
when it was happening, it all it's hard to explain.

(35:40):
It all got jumbled together, and it just amplified. Like
you would turn up like you're listening to your headphones
and you just turn up the speaker or you turn
up the zignum as well as loud as it can go,
and it actually hurts your ears. And that's the way
this was. And I don't know if it was inside
my head. I don't know if I was actually hearing

(36:01):
it that way, but it hasn't. And that's another weird thing.
It only happened for a couple of months like that,
and then it just stopped. I never had that feeling
again ever, but now I can. I don't know, it's weird.
I feel people. I've had several jobs since I've been
here in Pennsylvania, and whenever I'm near somebody that in

(36:24):
a bad especially negative energy, I can feel it in
my gut. And for some reason, their energy that negative
when they're mad, I get mad for no reason whatsoever.
I would just get really really upset, you know what
I mean. Somebody did any wrong, that kind of upset,
and it would last, It would last as long a

(36:46):
time near that person.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
And even if you feed and find no problems before, yeah,
there was no There was no issues before. When you
come in concept with people that you know are angry
or or negative, you know, you start to feel that way,
and then as soon as you're away from him, you
go completely back to normal again.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, it goes, It goes right back to normal. And
like I was going to say, whenever that was happening
with me with the noises, I can't explain what type
of feeling was, but I could feel whatever, and especially
my father, for some reason, it never happened with my mother,
but my dad I could feel whenever he was close

(37:22):
to me, like it could be outside, I could be
or for another example, I could be dead asleep. But
it's happened a couple of times I can remember. I
would be dead asleep in the middle of the night
and I would get this feeling that my dad was
either on his way in close proximity to me, or
he was checking up on me to make you know,

(37:44):
how parents do. They check on their kids and make
sure they'll go. And a couple of times I would,
you know, I could actually feel my dad. I don't know,
it's weird. He would be walking down the street, not
even in the out, and I would get a feeling
like he was in close proximity to me and would
disappear once I saw him. It was weird. I don't
know why, but I think all of this ties in

(38:07):
with my especially the UFO sighting that I had when
I was sixteen years old.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think all of that ties in with this manthis, yeah,
because that happened a few years, ten years, ten eleven
years later. The actual color of the object, You remember
what color the actual light was.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
It wasn't really one color from Okay, Martin Luther King
Junior Bridge. I was standing right in the center of it.
It was a drawbridge, so in the center was it
was great. It wasn't it was middle grade. It wasn't
solid concrete, you know where the bridge opened. So I
was standing right in the middle of this bridge. And

(38:46):
I want to say, maybe a quarter mile away from
me was that fifth third Bank, that thirty two story
glass Billion tuned it up. The moment I saw it,
I just stood there and I'm staring at this thing.
And this is before cell fun technology. Course, I had
a beeper at the time. I you know, I mean,
I didn't have any type of camera on me, but
I wish, I really wish I would have. And I

(39:08):
hope I see something like that similar again, because now
I got a camera in my pocket. You know what
I mean. It was. It wasn't really a color. It
was multiple colors, like when you would shine a light
on it's like a brilliant colored diamond. The clarity and
the color. It shone just like a diamond. And it

(39:30):
was a shape to me. From the distance where I was,
it could have been rotating, but to me, it had
no discernible shape.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
To it.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
It was just a light that looked like you ever
look at it distance start through a telescope and you
can see how it's like you get a little bit
too close to it and it gets fuzzy.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, so it would be like a like a prism effect.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, exactly. And it had this liquid liquid flowing to it.
It was so cool, and like I said, it moved
real slow around the back of this building, came out
the right side on the other side of the building,
or it hovered there for about, you know, twenty thirty seconds.
There was no like you've seen in that video of

(40:15):
the dumb of the Rocks. It was exactly like that,
only it didn't there was no bright flash. It just
shot to right up and like not in an angle
or anything. It was weird. It was straight. You couldn't
get a more perfect, you know, geometrical line straight up.
It was perfect. And it just went straight up. I
didn't see it anymore and I'm looking for it. And

(40:38):
there was three lights that were stationary and it was huge.
I can remember that too. It was huge, like the
the lights were so far apart. Whatever this craft was,
it was big, like it was big big. It went
from one side of the river to the other and
probably passed that. And that's all I scene. I didn't

(41:01):
see anything else except these red lights and they weren't
blinking or anything. They were stationary lights. But like I said,
they were so dim it was almost hard to see them.
And but I you know, you could see them if
you were setting there focusing you And that's what I did,
because I wanted to see where this thing went, and
they're focusing on the sky. I see if I could see,

(41:22):
you know, maybe it went toward a certain star system,
you know, because I'm into astrology. I always have been,
ever since I was, you know, a teenager. I started
getting into astrology and know their planets and stuff like that.
But as I'm looking, and like I said, this craft
must have been a mile maybe a mile and a half,
and it was huge but put that way, and the

(41:45):
lights were like I said, the lights were so far apart,
but you could, like it was so high up there,
I could see all the lights, you know, and one
view without turning my head. But it was big and
there was like three I try to remember correctly, three
or four lights in a there was one at the top. Okay,
picture of a triangle. Okay, there was one of the

(42:06):
top two at the other you know, one at each
point of the bottom of the triangle, and then there
was one in the middle, but not in the middle
of the not in the middle of the craft. It
was to me, it looked like it was in between
the two bottom points of the triangle. It was like
right in between there. And they were stationary lights that

(42:28):
didn't move, they didn't blink or anything. And then all
of a sudden, it was just gone, like almost like
a cloud went over the top of it, or underneath it,
i should say, and it just it was gone. After that,
it just kind of faded away.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
And these lights were directly overhead, right above you.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Towards the Oh yeah, directly above me. They were directly
above me. In downtown Toledo is ninety four ninety five,
and it was directly above me, man. And I'm almost positive.
I can't be one hundred percent sure, but I'm almost
positive that's where this craft that I've seen when it
shot up, that's where it went.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
But from when it left the building and then you
were looking for it, you lost completely lost sight of it.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Oh yeah, it was nowhere to be seen. I've seen
it shoot up, and my eyes couldn't follow it quick enough.
That's how fast this was. My eyes couldn't follow it
quick enough to see where it went. So I'm standing
in there in the middle of the bridge. I don't
know if other people saw me looking up or whatever.
I wasn't really paying attention, but i go up to
the guardrail of the bridge and I'm just I'm leaning

(43:34):
on the guard rail and looking up, see, if you know,
see where this thing went. And that's when I seen them,
for like, it was like a deep red too. I
remember that, it's like a deep red, like a almost
like a crimson blood red light. And they were just
there for about I stared at him for a good minute,
maybe two minutes, and then, like I said, it just

(43:56):
faded away like they were never there.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
But you didn't obviously report this anyway, No, I.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Didn't report it because well that that kind of spurred
my interest in you know, uthology and stuff like that.
When I had this actual UFO sighting, that's what spurred
my interest in it. And I you know, back then,
I didn't know about mouf on or anything like that.
I didn't know you could, you know, report stuff like that.
But nowadays, you can't tell, you know, if you're looking

(44:23):
at a drone or if you're looking at something that
doesn't belong on this planet. Because I've seen some drones.
They moved so quickly and so fast, you know, at
the middle of night, they could they could very well
be mistaken as a UFO from it. But I was
with my brother another I don't I'm not sure if
it was an encounter or not, or a sighting, I

(44:45):
should say, But me, I was staying with my well,
he's not my brother, he's a really good friend of mine.
Shout out to lenin he. I was staying with him
in this little town called Cranberry. It's right outside Cranberry's.
I was doing something and I actually called the police
because I wanted somebody else to see this, you know,

(45:07):
I mean somebody official. And I don't know if it
was a drner as a cop couldn't even tell me,
you know, the police officer couldn't even tell me what
it was. But I was looking at it and it
was about, you know, five or six miles away, and
it was it was too close to be a star.
I knew that for a fact. It was way too
close to be a star, and it was way too
close to be a planet. From what I could see,
it was maybe moving back and forth, just a little

(45:29):
bit from left to right. So Lennon called his ex
girlfriend or his girlfriend at the time. He called her outside.
He was like, yeah, can look at this, can look
at this. I remember my brother got on me because
I ended up actually calling the police office. I called
nine one one and I'm like, YO, got to come
out here to see this. I was like, I'm almost

(45:49):
one hundred percent positive I'm staring at a UFO, and
you know, they obliged. They actually came out, and the
officer that was standing next to me, he was like,
I can't tell you what he was like to my
best guess, I would think it was a drone. I
was like, yeah, but I've been watching this thing for
the past forty five minutes. I was like, how long

(46:10):
does drone batteries last? You know what I mean? You
can't fly him for that long. I don't know. He
had no explanation of it. We ended up actually getting
in his girlfriend's car, my brother's girlfriend's car. We actually
ended up getting in her car and driving trying to
drive closer to see if we could see this thing,

(46:31):
and you know, she got bored with it. Eventually, I
was like, well, I'm going to get out of the car.
I'm going to go I want to see what happened.
And we got a little bit closer to it, probably
a couple of miles closer, and it was stationary still.
It hadn't moved from that spot except maybe less to
write a few degrees. And I got out of the
car and I was sent her staring at it. I

(46:52):
was a couple of miles closer and sent her staring
at it, and sure enough, it is actually a movie.
Left to right. I was standing there watching them smoking
a cigarette. I'm standing there watching this thing. It's moving
from left to right, and it's the middle of the night.
All I see are they weren't blinking lights. They were
regular lights on this thing. And then they weren't really

(47:14):
really bright, but they were kind of bright enough to
see them. And sure enough, it was just going back
and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And eventually
I don't know why, but I got bored with it.
I was thinking, maybe, you know, I just brushed it off.
You know, it is a drone. But now you know,
I'm thinking back on it, and I'm not so sure because,

(47:36):
like I said, I walked away from it. I walked
back to the house, and I'm like, you know, I'm
not worried about it, But thinking back on it, I
don't know if that was a drone or not.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I know, drones did have a limited battery. I think
of thirty odd minutes. I think now, you know, obviously
they'd get a little bit better. And if it's military,
probably a military drone, obviously they have a lot longer time.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Oh yeah, definitely military drones. Yeah, they they got what
eight nine an hour, right, I mean, I know.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
It reminded me actually a couple of years ago as
I sat where I am now in the studio, and
I could see the window and it was dark, It's
about nine ten o'clock at night, and I could see
a light. I could see a light in the sky.
It actually like a couple of lights, like flashing lights,
and it would have been probably about two three miles away.
I could see it up there, and I was recording

(48:23):
with a guest, and I kept on watching it, and
then when I finished with the guest, it was still there.
So I naturally I got in the car and I
drove in that direction to see what it was, and
what it turned out to be. It was a guy
right out the middle of the night flying a kite,
and this kite had led.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Lights on it. So yeah, you know what, that's very
well could have been in too. I've never even crossed
my mind before.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean, actually made the new local newspaper that did.
But I said to him, I goes, I've just driven
two miles for this bloody light.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Wow, it actually made the news.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It actually, yeah, it was in the local newspaper.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Oh that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
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Speaker 1 (50:22):
You ever feel like maybe there is some some other,
you know, race of beings that are out there that
actually know what you're doing. You know, with your podcast
and everything putting everybody's story out there, you ever get
that feeling like, you know, maybe there is something else
besides humans listening to you. They know what you're doing,
they know what you're saying, you know what I mean,

(50:44):
they're derving you as well.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Would it'd be nice if one of them sent me
an email and asked if I'd send them a bumper sticker?
So you know, it's always always good, But yeah, I've
kind of thought about that, and you know, I'd like
to think that they would be happy about this. You know,
they would happy about more people knowing and people will
feel feeling more comfortable.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
With it, right. And I think that's another thing too.
I think we're being conditioned because if you would have
brought this information to the general public fifty sixty years ago,
it would have been pandemonium, like recently with the how
the Pentagon released that information, like, yeah, there is something

(51:28):
out there, but we don't know what it is, even
though as vague as that was, it was a what
four page report that was released to the public saying, yeah,
there is something out there, but we don't know what
it is, blah blah blah. If you would release that
information to the general public sixty years ago, it would
have been like the Orson g Wells War of the

(51:50):
World radio show that happened. You remember reading about that.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
I remember that didn't work too well.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, But now I think you know, with Hollywood and
you know social media and everybody, you know capturing and
I know there's a lot of fakes. There's a lot
of fake there's a lot of cgi that you find
on the internet. But if you've done it long enough,
if you've looked at the videos long enough, you could
tell the CGI from the real thing, because the real

(52:20):
thing is more I don't want to say unbelievable, but
it's almost on that realm where I can't be possible.
But then you look at the video two or three
more times you're like, well, maybe you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
All the fake videos out there is really frustrating because
there's a lot of people which believe them. You know,
they believe that. You know, it's blatantly CGI, and it's
it's a shame. It's a shame that things like that
would preferably, it would rather people didn't do that at all.
It doesn't help the cause whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
No, it doesn't, because all they're trying to get do.
All they're trying to do is get views on their account.
They make up fake fake fightings and stuff like that.
I mean, I have ran to a few, like on
legitimate websites. I have ran into a few that you know,
were I believe it because they were similar to the

(53:13):
encounter that I had on the Martin Luther King's unibrids.
You know, you could see the thing in the distance,
you can see it moving at incredible speech. They stop
on a dying you know, I mean they accelerate from
zero to mock four or whatever it is in under
a second day. I don't know. There is some legitimacy

(53:35):
to things that you find on the internet, but like
you said, ninety nine percent of it is vie.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, and it's a shame.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
You know. One case I would love for them to
actually dig deeper into. And I mean there's document, there
is police reports and everything on Travis Walton disappearing. He
actually disappeared like he was gone. I've looked up some
of the original police reports that really did happened to him.
But I would love for there to be you know,

(54:05):
especially with science and everything now, I would love for
there to be a deeper investigation on than Travis Walton abduction.
And I was just listening, actually, I was just listening
to your podcast about the Foreman, the guy that was

(54:25):
he was on your show. He was the foreman of
the group that had the Travis Walton encounter. Yeah, I
was listening to that, and I was I wanted to
go to because I listen to you like right before
I go to bed every night, and I'm tired, but
I'm like, no, I got to hear it. I gotta
hear that. I got to see where this is going.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
You know, I help thousands of people over the world
for sleep at night.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Well, I mean you got you got a great show, though, man,
you really do. I got jo on Spotify. I follow
you on Spotify, follow you on Facebook. You got a
great show. You got to keep up with good work.
Then you're doing a great job. I like how you know,
I actually feel now that I got this off my chest.
You know, I feel a little bit better now that

(55:10):
you know millions of people are going to hear that.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Well, I appreciate Jane. Yeah, it does help. It does
help to share it, you know, because it's it's a
difficult thing to share to people. You know, everyone wants
to not everyone wants to hear it, you know, not
everyone wants to listen, especially family members. They can be
a bit difficult trying to try and tell them. You know,
you've told friends and acquaintances. Well, the one guy in particularly,
you've told several times.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, like I said, I was talking in this morning,
He's like, Bro, you've told me this like forty times.
Shut up already. Like, yeah, I know, man, but you
have no idea what it was like thinking back on it, man,
I really wish I would have got it. I would
have just tried to interact with it somehow. But you know,

(55:53):
it's a five year old, Like I said, giant grasshopper.
I didn't know, you know, what was going to happen.
I was. I had this feeling in my body like
I shouldn't in my mind, like I shouldn't get up,
lay there and go to don't worry about it, Everything's
gonna be fine. I don't know if that was the
creature speaking to me telepathically, trying to shoe the little

(56:17):
kid's mind or whatever. But I never got up to
investigate them. So the whole house was lit up with daylight,
you know what I mean. And then, like I said,
I went looking for an eggsack. I think the first
night that it happened. The next morning I went up,
I got up, and I was started looking for an egxac,

(56:37):
thinking maybe you know that's the mother, that's the mother grasshopper,
and there's an eggsack somewhere with a bunch of little
baby grasshoppers in it.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
It's possible, you know, there's probably more a lot more
to this than you you know, you remember I do
get people. Come on, Let's say, you know, I had
a very positive experience, and I know you have a
lot of negative accounts on the show. So I just
want to put well, you know, the postive side, because
there is two you know, there's the full range, full
spectrum range of experiences I have on their Some are good,

(57:08):
some are bad. You know, some people perceive them as
being bad when you know the intention probably isn't that
way at all.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Say like, if the rumors are true that you know,
in area fifty one, we actually recovered technology that we're
using today, hence the microchip, the laser, kevlar, all that
other stuff that we're using that technology, and there's other
technology out there that could benefit our country. You know,
we don't want that fallen into you know, another country

(57:37):
that is against us. We don't want that fall into
their hands. I get that part. But to just come
right out and say, you know, you're you're full of shit.
It doesn't exist. What you're seeing is a planet or
you're seeing a shooting star. I have never seen a
shooting start cover and then just take off like a bullet,

(58:00):
straight up into the sky. That it's never happened exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
They're not gonna to be honest. I mean that there's
the Senate brief and me in this week.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Oh yeah, that just that just happened over here. Actually
I was, I was looking at that on YouTube. There
was But then again, you know what I mean, they're
just saying that they they have a special investigation now,
are a unit that investigates they call it unidentified aerial phenomenon.
Now there's a group that investigates it in the government now.

(58:28):
And all they're saying is, you know, I watched probably
like an hour of it yesterday on YouTube. All they're
saying is that, you know, there are some things that
were investigating. They won't get into any details about it.
If it falls under their jurisdiction to investigate, they'll investigated.
And I don't know, like you said, just more hidden truths,

(58:51):
more half truth you know, it's always going to be
that way. But the majority of the United States, I
think the majority of the world, actually we've already accepted
that there's we're not alone in the entire universe. It's
almost peifically impossible. And if we are, that's even scarier,
you know what I mean, right.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Right, Yeah, you got it. People are very optimistic when
the government started coming to the US, government started coming
out saying, you know, we're going to we're gonna look
into these things. You know, we're going to be a
little bit more transparent. They won't be. You know, this
is all just a smoke stree. It's always the same.
You know, it's the same when you know you've got
someone a new present coming in a new party. You
know that it's always the same stuff. They say they're
going to do this, they're going to do that, they
never do. We have the same problem in the UK,

(59:33):
and I imagine the world over. It's just a big smokescreen.
And I don't believe people are optimistic when all, you know,
all this UFO stuff. But I wasn't. I don't. I'm
not very trust in the government in any case, and
especially when it comes to this. They will only tell
you what they want you to know.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I said, I understand if there's certain technology that we've
recovered that we can use to protect our country, I
get that keeping that secret. But as far as like
we're coming to a point on the planet where fossil
foods are no longer going to be I mean, look
at all of the new the car companies that are
coming that are coming out with electric cars now, Cadillacs

(01:00:08):
doing it, Mercedes, you know, all these top big car
companies are coming out with fully electric cars.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I've given another maybe another one hundred years, and fossil
fewds are going to be a thing of the path.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't even give it one hundred years.
I know that electric car was first kind of built
in the nineteen nineteen I think it was. It was
a long long time ago when there was first electric cars.
The reason why we don't we're not at the stage
now or have been for the last ten twenty odd years,
is because of fossil fuels and there's so much money
in it, so they're going to just drain. Yeah, they're

(01:00:43):
just going to drain that stuff as much as possible.
So all this stuff could have been done a long
time ago, but it's made a lot of people rich.
They didn't want to make these changes. So we're kind
of held back by purely by greed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
The people in charge just hold us back time and
time again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
But we're going to have to stop it eventually, you
know what I mean? Why not I don't know if
it's too late for the planet. I doubt it because
we've went through several extinction level events on this planet.
I mean there's proof of it. Oh Man, I could
we can have this conversation for the next three hours. Man,
I'd love to sit down and just go over conspiracy

(01:01:18):
theories and stuff with you, man, especially AI. I don't
think we should. AI is going to replace humans eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
It reminded me actually when you said about your your beeper,
so I remember having a page of years ago back
in that it is actually back back in the night,
and I remember thinking, hopleyes, don't get popular, hopies don't
take off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I hate them, right. I can remember my third grade
teacher when I was using a calculator. She always used
to come up with, coming, you shouldn't use a calculator.
You're not going to have them all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
What did she know?

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Right? And like, you're going to have one in your
pocket wherever you go. Sure enough we do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
What is a camera?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Right? Jay?

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
All right now, thank you, Okay, thanks little brother. Yep,
that's all for this week. Keep updated and connected with
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(01:02:14):
contact page on my website at ufo Chronicles podcast dot com.
A big thank you to Dan and Jay for sharing tonight,
and thank you all for listening. I will be back
next week. Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies.
Goodbye to any