August 2, 2023 • 53 mins
We're back and we're ready to dive right intot he deep end. Listen upas we detail the histoy of The Emily Morgan hotel in downtown San Antoni, Texas and our weekend logn investigation at this historic property. There are many ghost stories and urban legends surrounding this building that sits next the the Alamo, but are they true? We put that to the test. Listen as we share the results of our paranormal investigation and other shenenaigans that took place.
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I mean, we've we're off.Let's put that in quotes. We
were off, we travel, Wejust didn't make any new podcast episodes.
But I promise you I was workingmore on this month on just make putting
out all the reels for Instagram andeverything. Yeah, then I had normally
I was like, I thought thiswas a break because we were so scared
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to like not post on social mediaor anything. So I went hard on
the reels and the memes. Well, I mean, it's like peek behind
the curtain. Metra's doing all thecontent creation on our socials and she's posting
all that stuff on reels. Inthe meantime, we traveled to Saint Louis,
created a whole bunch more content foryou guys, and we also,
um, you know, I'm youknow, beating the pavement talking to clients
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and arranging events and things like that, and you know, so it's off,
but just from recording the show really, But we're glad to be back
and we're happy to have you herebecause before we went away, we had
told you guys that we were goingto be doing an investigation at the Emily
Morgan Hotel in downtown San Antonio.It sits right behind the Alamo. Okay,
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guys, like, besides, yesand next to it. Yeah.
Really, if you're on the topfloors, you're like looking down at the
Alam. Well, that was likeour view from our room, we looked
right down into the Alamo was amazing. So but yeah, we did that.
We basically we recorded our final episodesfor June, and then the next
thing we were doing was we wereat the Emily Morgan and we were there
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for an entire weekend. They weresuper gracious to us. Thank you to
David for helping to arrange that,and thank you to Jasmine from Hilton for
putting us in contact with the EmilyMorgan so that we could get the ball
rolling on this. But it wasjust a tremendous opportunity to get in there
at this historic property in downtown SanAntonio, kind of learned some of the
history of it. Also, youknow, do some paranormal investigating, which
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we did. I don't know why, I said investigating, so weird there
I said investigating. It's like areal weird emphasis on the gating part.
But anyway, what's a little bitSo why don't we tell the audience if
they aren't familiar with it. Alittle bit of the history of the Emily
Morgan Hotel. Okay, So wherethe Emily Morgan sits, from what I
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gathered, it was built on topof where the original long barracks of the
Alamo was. So the Alamo whatyou see today was a much bigger area
than what it is like right now. So I think that's like it doesn't
register with people when they see theAlamo and they're like, wait, a
battle was fought here, and it'slike, no, there was like a
lot more to it. It's justyou know, I've been torn down in
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things. Yeah, and even likefor a long time. The they do
have some long barracks there now thoseweren't even there for the longest time,
and they recovered and rebuilt and didsome things. So anyways, that's what
it's built on top of. Sowe got like the whole Alamo area of
the battle and everything, you know, happened all right there. The Emily
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Morgan Hotel was originally built in nineteentwenty six as a hospital with medical offices,
and it was known as the MedicalArts Building. It was designed by
Ralph Cameron. It was Neo Gothicand It was supposed to resemble the building
in New York that's that flat ironbuilding from the eighteen hundreds. So that's
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what it was. That's what itwas modeled after. It it mimics and
it was the first skyscraper, theMedical Arts Building here. It was the
first skyscraper west of the Mississippi Rivernineteen twenty six, first skyscraper west of
the Mississippi. Yeah. So basicallyit was a hospital. They had a
fancy named Medical Arts Building. Basicallyit was a hospital with medical offices basically,
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so the building itself, it hasum you can call them gargoyles or
sometimes they're called grotesques, but ithas like faces of people who are sick
with like of different ailments and thingslike that along the building. They're still
there today, and so were themedical crests on the outside of the building
because it's just part of the buildingeven though it's a hotel, so that
stuff is all there. It wasspaces were pretty cool to see, by
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the way, Yeah, it was. And you really it's funny because if
you were at the hotel, Idon't think you really would notice it until
you like looked up, because nobodyreally looks up into the corners like you
would never know to sit, youknow. So this was our first time
that we've been able to stay thereand go in and investigate and everything.
But we've walked past that and Ihad never noticed that exactly. Honestly,
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we've gone past that building, we'vegone inside of that building and everything,
and I had never noticed those hadever thought to look up. Yeah,
they're right there, and it's reallycool. So it's a thirteen story building
and they skipped the actual thirteenth floorand made it a number fourteen because that's
what they like to do, superstitions. The building sold in nineteen seventy five
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and was renovated. It reopened innineteen seventy eight as the Landmark Building with
office spaces. So now it's justa generic skyscraper because the medical offices and
the hospitals moved to a different areaof San Antonio. People moved out of
the city and nobody was there reallyto go to the hospital anymore. Right,
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it wasn't office space for very longbecause in eighteen, I mean in
nineteen eighty three it was bought andconverted to hotel. Yeah, the original
brass elevators, the brass mail shootsthat we saw, the floor tiles and
the staircases were all kept when itwas converted over to the hotel. Yeah,
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which is now the Emily Morgan Hotel. Those things. Yeah, the
mail shoots are right in front ofthe elevators and I had wondered like maybe
they were somehow connected to the structureof the elevator and that's why they remained.
Because why did they keep them.I don't know. Um, it
just looked nice as a cool vintagelook to the to the whole product.
They're very cool. Yeah. Sothe hotel was named actor Emily Morgan.
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L here's the story of Emily Morgan. Yeah, she is known as Emily
Morgan, but her name was EmilyD. Westy. She was twenty years
old. She was a mixed racefree person. In eighteen thirty five,
she became an indentured servant for ayear to James Morgan in New York.
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So she was in I believe shewas born Innticuet. I hope I'm getting
this right. I think she becomesan indentured servant to James Morgan and this
was just for one year. Now, I don't know when she became free
but from what I gathered, fora person to become free, typically there
was some kind of contract that youhad to serve as an indentured servant for
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one year before you could be free. But I didn't see anything like that
on her, and they said shewas already free when she became the indentured
servant. So I'm not really sureif there's something lost there or what.
So. James Morgan had some propertyin Texas. It was called Morgan's Point.
He had a hotel there and shewas sent to be one of the
housekeepers there. On April sixteenth,eighteen thirty six, Emily, along with
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the others people who were working atthe hotel, was kidnapped by the Mexican
army and they were forced to travelalong with them, which included Santa Anna.
Emily was in the Mexican army campat the Battle of Santa sent to
Santa Centa, which Texas won ineighteen minutes. And this area is near
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Pasadena, Texas, if everybody anyoneknows that, it's like right outside of
Texas. The exact location of wherethis battle is is debated, and I
think there is like three historical markersall claiming to be the actual site,
but nobody really knows. Is rightoutside of where Houston. You said Texas
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and I was like, oh,I'm sorry, Texas. Sorry, I
was outside of Houston. It's likethe Pasadena Laport area, so it is
from that area. Yeah, Igrew up in that area in Houston area
and also in clear Lake area.But Pasadena because they have a lot of
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like um industrial stuff there, ithas a smell. It's known as Stinkadena.
Okay, okay, So anyway,a little local history for you.
Yes, So anyways, what happenedduring the battle was the Texans came in
the middle of the night early morninghours, they and bushed the Mexican army.
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They were outnumbered. The Texans wereor quote unquote Texans because it wasn't
really Texans at the time, andthey were able to, you know,
win this battle really quickly in eighteenminutes. Santa Anna actually put on like
soldier regular soldier clothes and took offand ran. He could try to oh
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yeah, he took off and ran. He was captured. They found him
and he was held prisoner for threeweeks, probably wasn't treated very nicely,
and they say he signed a peacetreaty, which ultimately led to Texas becoming
its own independent country. I mean, probably was forced to sign it after
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three weeks. I'm sure you're probablylike been whatever, who whatever knows what
happened. So the legend with EmilyD. West is that why they won
the battle so quickly, were allowedto get like this jump head start like
on top of the Mexican army wasbecause Santa Anna was having relations with Emily
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when the Texans engaged in battle.So Emily was said to be this really
beautiful woman and the inspiration for thefolk song the Yellow Rose of Texas was
said to be about Emily D.West and like her beauty and how beautiful
she was. Now, obviously shewas kidnapped, right, so whatever relation
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may be happening was most likely againsther will, right in no way,
Yeah, yes, so she wasprobably and some people say she heard like
the battle cry or something, orsomebody like yelling that the Texans were there,
and that she purposely distracted them,distracted Santa Anna so that you know,
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they could overtake the camp or whatever. So maybe that's what happened.
We don't know, Like, maybeshe willingly just kind of seduced him yea,
and to giving the Texans some timeand then you know, I mean,
all I gotta say is clearly hewasn't dressed and he grabbed some shoulders
clothes and ran because he would haveto take yeah, because he would have
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had his general uniform on, orI guess he would have if maybe he
could have been sleeping. Yeah,But I like the story that she knew
the Texans were coming. She purposelyseduces him because he's into her, right,
she distracts him, and then theywere able to overtake the Mexican Army.
So she's kind of like a hero. Um. Yeah, So Emily
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left from Texas in eighteen thirty seven. Her freedom papers had been lost because
you know, she was taking prisonerand they couldn't find her. Major Isaac
Morland commander and Galveson vouched for herand she was able to travel back to
wherever she wanted to. They lostrecord of her. They think she went
back to New York. There's somedebate what happened, but most likely she
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went back back to New York.So okay, because she was hailed as
like this hero like even even then, they were like thank you, okay,
thank you for the distraction. Yeah, so that's that's the story with
Emily D. West the Hotel,Emily Morgan. They kept the Morgan last
name, which I don't know why, like yeah, and I guess because
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that's just maybe at the time thatwas what she was mostly known as,
but that was like not ever hername, and that was just the name
of the guy. She was indentureservant too, and usually slaves took the
name of their master the last name, but she wasn't a slave to him,
so I don't know why her nameis Morgan, So we'll say Emily
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D. West Um. The hotelis ranked the third most haunted hotel in
twenty fifteen by USA Today. Thehaunted most haunted floors are the seventh,
ninth, twelfth, fourteenth in thebasement. Okay, the fourteenth floor was
the surgeries and it's supposed to smelllike bandages and antiseptic. The seventh floor
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was haunted by a bride who killedherself. Her ghost is seen in the
hallways and you can hear a woman'svoice and screams, and supposedly also perhaps
haunted by Alamos soldiers, which obviouslyit was built on the battlegrounds and people
have seen apparitions walk through walls onthe seventh floor, So that's what we
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got going on there. Some otherthings nurses pushing carts, surgical carts have
been seen. Also. The seventhwas the psych ward. The fourteenth was
like did I say the surgeries orwhatever? Yeah? Yeah. And also
there is no room fourteen o eighton the fourteenth floor because one plus four
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plus eight equals thirteen. Their teamsan unlucky number. So no thirteenth floor
and no room fourteen away yeah,which is interesting. You know, Mitra
nostalgia is a big seller these days. Who doesn't love a walk down memory
lane? You know, I've basicallybeen listening to the same exact music since
I was in high school. Thatreally doesn't shuck me. While some of
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sent you. For those of you, we stayed on the fourteenth floor.
I specifically asked for it because thatis the one that has like the most
ghost stories and kind of urban legendsthat go along with it. The smell,
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the people seeing nurses pushing carts,the apparitions and things like that.
The fourteenth floor is the most hauntedfloor there. So of course that's where
let's make get a home for theweekend. Right, Let's stay there and
check it out. First things first, absolutely gorgeous hotel. Oh beautiful,
like everything, like the pool wasamazing and whilst the story about the pool
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in a little bit too, butyou know we have it was just like
it was great. The lobby areais very welcoming, um, and the
rooms are beautiful. So if youare looking for a great place to stay
and you happen to be in thespooky stuff, uh, the Emily Morgan,
it's right there and you can exploreall of the great things that are
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in downtown San Antonio as well.So when we were checking in, uh,
they knew exactly who we were.They were like, oh, you're
here for the podcast and everything likethat. The woman at the front desk
was really nice to us and everything, and um, it's a double tree.
So we got our our our freshbaked cookies which is nice, yeah,
very nice. Just so you know, Emily Morgan, it is a
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double tree. It's not like youknow what I mean, So, um,
you will get those fresh baked cookiesand everything, which is really really
nice. Um. She also toldus, like, you know, we
should find somebody at the hotel that'swilling to uh, that can take you
out onto like the roof did sheset up at the top where like they
have to change out like the flagsand things like that, and I was
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like, oh, I was like, that's interesting. I didn't know you
could do that. She's like,well, she's like, we'll take you
guys out there and everything. She'slike, but you have to watch your
step because one wrong moving you'll fall. And I was like, yeah,
I think we'll pass, but thankyou for the opportunity. We're gonna go
ahead and not die. She waslike, if you've been drinking, it's
not a good idea to go upthere. I'm like, I'm not going
up there if I'm breaking or not. Yeah, seriously, no, I'm
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just clumsy. I don't want tohave a risk falling right like that.
No, but it was very nice. It was a very warm welcome,
you know. So the first nightthat we were there, we decided to
do a spirit box session in ourin our room where we were in and
you know, because first of all, guys, it's an active hotel.
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We're investigating an active, busy hotelin a very large tourist city in the
United States. So we've kind ofgot a pick and choose where we can
go in and do some investigating andstuff like that. So the room was
the best option for quiet comfort wherewe could really just kind of like you
know, hunker down and kind offigure out what was going on. And
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what's funny about that is where Iwas like a little bit nervous to do
that, because when you start investigatingin a place where you also have to
stay for an entire weekend, youkind of don't know what you're going to
be bringing in there and stuff andkind of get to that in a minute
and everything. But anyway, spiritBox session spirit Box session one, Mitra
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was under she had the noise cancelingheadphones on and she had the spirit box
going and everything, and we gotsome interesting responses to that. At one
point, I asked when they wereborn, and I feel like we hear
we heard them say December, whichI don't know. It sounded kind of
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like December, which I thought waswas interesting. I also asked what their
favorite color was, and the responsethat I heard is what color? Like
asking a question. Yeah, soI don't know what that was either.
Um let's see, um, theseare the EVPs. This is not saying
right. This is these are justEVP is not what I'm saying right,
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Because we had the digital recorder goingon, yeah, and me with the
spirit box, so we did wejust we want to double up and see
if there was anything that would correlateto what I was saying or whoever was
doing the spirit box with the EVP, or if it would add to it.
Yeah, there were a couple ofinteresting ones that we got from the
EVP during that session. Um.I thought that one of the most interesting
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things that happened was when I asked, you know what a video is,
and I felt like we got ayes on the EVP from that no response
on the spirit box. And Inoticed, for those of you who are
fellow investigators or just kind of likedabble in investigating is like a hobby or
something like that, when the spiritbox is quiet and there isn't any responses
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being said by the person who isunder that's when you get more EVPs when
you are when you're looking for them, you know what I mean. So
there's that. One of the thingsthat we asked for was confirmation because Mitra
had said the name Roger and wehad already heard that, and then we
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thought that we hear confirmation of thename Roger on an EVP as well,
that was after the name Roger wassaid, after we were asking questions things
like this. What's what's interesting aboutthe situation when Meetra was under was that
it seemed like it was very friendly, you know what I mean. There
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was nothing negative or anything like that. Like everything seemed more like they were
almost like as curious about us aswe were about them. Um. One
of the more interesting things that happenedduring this spirit Box session was as the
clock literally was on midnight, Metregoes midnight, like that's what she said,
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That's what the spear box said.And I looked over at the clock
and I like my jaw dropped becauseit was literally it was midnight, like
spot on. It wasn't twelve ohone, it wasn't eleven fifty nine,
it was exactly midnight. And Ithought that was really creepy and really eerie
that that happened at the same exacttime. So, uh, that was
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that was That was that was veryvery interesting. I think some of the
other things that we got during thespear Box session, I know, I
said, the name Dana yeah aswell. Um. Also there was some
Spanish Spanish yeah, And here's thething. A lot of Spanish was coming
through, yeah, and I justlike went silent because I was like,
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I don't know Spanish and I don'treally know what I'm hearing, so I
couldn't say it, but I know, I said I think I said Latino
at one point, and I alsosaid uno because I think you said how
many are here and I said unoor whatever, and there was just so
much Spanish and I was just like, I can't translate. I can't say
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this at all, you know.Yeah, So there was just a lot
of me not saying anything because I'mjust I can't understand really what's coming through.
But I think another something else thatcame through was Tabernacle, and I
like looked all over for that becauseI know, like there's like, is
it like a church or something atabernacle, but I thought it was like
something maybe it could be a lastname I didn't know, and I was
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like, Roger Tabernacle, Dana Tabernacle, Like is that Another Another name that
you got was George? You saidthe name, yeah, And I asked
if we were talking to George,and the EVP that we got said don't
worry about it, yeah, whichwas real creepy. And I said in
two used to ask why I wasthere, and I said injured. Yep.
It was a hospital, right,and we were on the fourteenth floor.
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We were on the surgical area.So it's very very interesting there.
Let's see, we asked if theywanted help, if we wanted help,
and the EVP response was okay,but there was no spirit box response to
that, and then we got arandom while there was just a moment of
silence and stuff like that, therewas an EVP of somebody going, you
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can't help him. And I thoughtthat was really interesting because we have who
we think is Roger in the roomwith us, then we have George,
and then we've got the name Danaas well. So are there three different
people in there either telling us thatwe can't help them? Or is this
a moment in time that we arejust experiencing where these three are now communicating
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back and forth about maybe a medicalincident that is going on or something like
that. But it was very veryinteresting that first night. The midnight thing
was the creepiest thing to me,Like when that happened, like I was
like, that's just such a weirdcoincidence, Like that was like sitting there
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watching us or something like that.I literally had chills, like goose bumps,
and it was it was an amazingexperience for that. And then there's
no good way, by the wayto bring somebody out from doing an S
TO session. And there's a realInstagram page you guys can see, but
like you know, because you arefully emerged, you are immersed, and
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you got the noise canceling headphones on, your head is down, your eyes
are closed, and you're just tryingto listen to any possible thing that comes
through. So I tapped Metra tokind of say okay, we've done enough
or whatever. Scared her because that'swhat happens. And then the second the
second night, when I was doingmine, she did the same thing.
It was so cautious too. Ididn't want to scare you, but I
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was like one BJ, I waslike, you know who you're talking to?
Come on, I know, butyou could see in the video.
I'm just so like delicately trying tolike touch you. I mean I was
also very delicate too. It wasn'tlike I like was like shaking you or
anything, because you're just very muchinto it. You're like such very deprived,
your eyes are closed, you can'tsee anything and you're listening to just
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the spirit box. Yeah, soit's creepy when someone touches you. It
was a very interesting experience and wegot some really really cool responses from that.
Now, also on the fourteenth floorwe've met. We mentioned before the
smell that is lingering there, butI will say this, it is not
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It is not constant. You aren'twith this smell. Now, anybody who's
ever been two a hospital or adoctor's office, you know that smell of
like the antiseptic things that are justvery sanitary, like you know that smell.
And when we were after we didour spirit Box session, we went
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back out because we were like,let's go floor some of the other haunted
floors and everything. Yeah, andwe got hit with a whiff of that
on the fourteenth floor. Well,after you go to the other floors and
you walk around and they come backto the fourteen, the fourteen floor has
a different smell yeah than the otherfloors, but it's not as strong or
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whatever. Yeah as people like toyeh make it out to be, you
know what I mean. It's definitelya different smell, but it's just it's
there, and you get used toit in like very seconds, and yeah,
it doesn't take long to get usedto it at all. But it
is different. It's it's a bitlike definitely effect is going on here.
Yeah, and like I said,it's not constant either. Because we first
arrived, I didn't think I smelledit, but I did smell it later
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on in the nights because it wasa ghost nurse just walking by. That
smell by very very possible, don'teven know. I did ask David,
who was our sales representative that wewere dealing with at the Emily Morgan,
and also Cole, who is thegeneral manager where the smell came from,
if they had any information on that, and they said no. They said,
it's just something that people talk aboutand employees smell, and it's just
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now part of the hotel and everything. So I mean you have to imagine,
I mean, if it was afully functioning hospital for a long time,
sometimes smells get into places that youjust can't get out. Yeah,
so that's what I imagine it is. That's just faint. Yeah, Well
here's the thing. So we wenton the Sisters Grim tour, yeah ghost
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tour, and I think it wasearly December this last year. Ye,
and it was really good, alot of information, It was really interesting.
Yeah. I had a little bitof, I don't know what you
want to say, a little beefwith how the stories were told, because
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a little woman who was doing thestory every location we stopped at, some
major paranormal event either happened to heror a family member or her best friend,
you know what I mean, Andit was just like too fantastical to
believe. And she had said shestayed on the fourteenth floor and that the
smell was so bad and so overpoweringthat she had to leave. And I'm
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like, so, I'm just waitingfor it to be like that, and
it just was never like that,and I'm like, okay, okay.
Yeah. She also said on thattour too that people had like the elevator
doors had opened on the fourteenth floorand people for a moment saw like a
fully functioning hospital and then kind ofsnapped out of it and then it wasn't
there. And I was just like, well, And that's one of the
things is that the she said theelevators are haunted. Now, these are
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the original elevators, so of coursethey could have mechanical problems because they're from
nineteen twenty six, but we didhave a strange occurrence on the elevator.
Now we had two straight too funnyoccurrences, So the first one is paranormal
perhaps. So we get in therethe hotel on the elevator and it's the
fourteenth floor. We get it onit all the buttons are push and I
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was like the one. I waslike, oh man, some kid pushed
every single button, which maybe itdoesn't really make sense because they would have
had to get off on the fourteenthfloor for them to all be lit up.
Right. We were there, soit didn't make any sense that they
were lit up correct, so becausethey would have not been because we're the
top floor. So we get onand I don't remember what floor it stopped
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at. We let somebody else in, but it was next Yeah, it
was very very close by. Sothe guy gets in and I apologized to
him. I said, sorry,some kid like pushed all the buttons.
And when I said that, theyall went off. No first he said,
he goes on maybe no, no, no, no, no,
no, no no no. Whathappened was they all went off. We're
like what and he goes maybe itwas the ghost When they all went off
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because it was literally like whatever happened, like it heard me, yeah,
say like a kid pushed all thebuttons and then it just flashed off.
It was so instantaneously. And thenhe was like, ha ha, maybe
it was a ghost and I waslike no, Idea grabbed him and was
like, are you getting me?I was like, man, because I've
heard about people getting trapped on it, and I was like if we I
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don't want to get trapped on thiselevator. First off, that's a relegit
fear of mine. Yeah, gettingon the elevator and getting trapped in it.
Like I always spring like, oh, I always have a water bottle
with me, and I always think, like, especially if I'm at a
hotel and I'm going out, I'malways like, make sure you have that
water bottle. You're gonna need itwhen you get trapped on that elevators.
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So anyways, second funny thing thathappened in the elevator. Yeah, so
we're I think we're coming. Idon't know where we're coming from anyways,
We're just in the elevator and Iguess we're going back to our room and
we stop at where the pool isin this mother and her child come on
today. Oh god. And heturns it looks at me. He's like
three years old, and he's like, are you a grandma? Oh my
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god. The mom was so shestarted laughing. It was so funny.
I just started snickering and laughing.She was like, I'm so sorry,
and I'm like, it's fine,because one, he's a kid, He's
a three year old. He's literallysaying the first thing that comes to his
mind. I looked like a grandmato him, So that's what he said.
I thought it was funny. Ihave kids too, min are older,
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but I remember they're young and literallywhatever's in their head comes out of
their mouth. And so I'm justdon't even apologize. That's fine. I
just thought it was so funny.And what was crazy about Like, what
was crazy about that situation is likewe had like gone out like and like
ben like exploring downtown and everything likethat. Like we were like dressed nice
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and everything like that. Oh yeah, yeah, I was dressed. Listen
to this. I was dressed nicein this black dress. I had like
the chicken cutlets and my bra whereyou like push them up, you know,
like the make them look fuller andBJ goes, you look like a
hussy. So that night I gotcalled a hussy and a grandma, and
I was like, waity, Iremember we got off the elevator. I
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was like, man, I'm like, I'm a hussy grandma. You're a
hussy grandma. That's right, theonly paranormal podcast with a hussy grandma.
Guys, you know you heard ithere for such an old man who says,
hussy, What is the problem?I don't know, I don't know,
all right. So onto the nextthing that we did was we went
out to a couple of the hauntedfloors and tried to do EVP sessions.
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Not not not ESTs method or spiritbox stuff, but we just we're kind
of sitting out they have like theselike chairs and like, yeah, which
was a problem because yes, theair hers elevator, so let's make a
noise. Well it's like I said, like you know, it was.
It's a fully functioning, active,like very busy hotel and everything. But
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we figured, you know, wewere out there like you know, like
one one thirty in the morning andstuff, we figured maybe it would be
quiet. We thought maybe we wouldbe the ones, right, Yeah,
we thought very wrong because like yatwas a lively, lively hotel. Um.
But yeah, so we we wewent out to a the twelfth floor
and we did an EVP session andthere was there's no results there um listening
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to all the audio, there wasno responses or anything. The elevator was
very loud and everything. Now,the weird thing that happened on the seventh
floor was man, it was likequick, like thirty seconds in or so.
Now we have a video of thistoo, which is really interesting.
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We didn't even begin like I thinkmaybe we introduced ourself or I just like
I think I think you introduced yourself. I'd have to re listen to it
to know if I had introduced myselfor if it wasn't until after this part.
But it was so strange because aboutforty five seconds in you hear a
stern female voice and it says situp, okay, yeah, sit up
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like that, and at that timeb J sat up and it was almost
like, I don't know if it'sreally weird, like because you sat up
like it was telling you to doit, and it was. It was
super weird, very strange. Oh, I can't even explain it. It
was very very interesting. It wasfunny too, because we were listening to
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that and then you were like,let me what you were like, I
have video and we were going backand You're like, did I tell you
to sit up? And I waslike, why would you have told me
to say? I literally was likeis that me? Because it's really clear,
and you know, sometimes with EVPsyou have to turn up the volume,
but this was obvious. Now Ihave like tenitis, I have ringing
in my ear. I have avery hard time BEAJ is like I hear
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this on the EVP and I'm like, I don't hear anything. Yeah,
so it's hard for me to discernso that I can hear this very clearly.
I know that it's like really loudand it's just like sit up.
And the fact that BJ physically hadlike responded to it is what was really
weird. Yeah, it was veryweird. So that happened almost immediately.
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And you know, so these werelike very short EVP sessions that we were
doing out in the hallway because again, um, you know, busy hotel
and everything. You know, therewas others. It's just the one on
the seventh floor when we were askingthe bride questions yeah, we were deposedly
there is a bride that died,right, the haunted bride. Yeah,
on the site. She was onthe psych ward. I guess she was
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right something. Yeah. So abouta minute thirty five in we got an
inaudible male voice on there. Wereally couldn't tell what it was. But
at two minutes and thirty seconds wegot another voice on there and I couldn't
tell if it was male or female, and it just said come see me.
And I was like like, aswe're listening to it, I'm like,
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what is going on here? Mitraasked what color is your wedding dress?
And we hear white, and Iwas like white, Like you know,
we're not hearing this in real time. This is like us sitting back
to it afterwards, looking at eachother like wow. And then Mitra's continuing
on and ask me more questions.Are you excited to get married? The
response we got from the EVP wasyes, Are you mad at your fiance?
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We got a no. And thenafter that this is kind of like
the last thing that we got.We either heard somebody say get them out
or kick them out, and Icouldn't tell even boosting the audio, slowing
it down if it was get orkicked, but the them out was really
there, and so who knows ifthey were talking to us or if they
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were talking to somebody else, butdefinitely some paranormal activity going on in the
hallway of the seventh floor there atthe Emily Morgan And those results were pretty
pretty amazing. And also why wewere doing that, Yeah, the elevator,
Like we said, the elevator wasgoing, we were trying to do
VP and it just opened and therewas like some people on it and they
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just like looked around and they laughedand then it closed like it brought them
to the wrong floor or something orI don't know what they were doing,
but that's one of the things thatthe elevators is that it will bring you
to the wrong floors. It stopsrandomly at floors. Yeah, I think
that's literally what happened, because theyjust like it just stopped and they looked
and then they started giggling and laughing. So many times happened though, you
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know where like that was going onnow, But again old elevators, so
you know, I don't know anythingabout elevators, so me neither. But
still, you know, very likeinteresting results there from the seventh floor.
Again. We did go to thetwelfth floor, but we didn't get any
results on the EVP for that.It was a very it was a very
noisy area. Yeah, but man, it was just like it was.
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It was just it was a veryactive first night in there. Um.
Now, the second night we decidedto go at it again. We're going
to do a spirit box session inour room again. See is this what
that night? Did you have thething that happened? No? Okay,
this was the next night, okay, just making sure, yes, all
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right. So the second night thatwe were there, we decided to do
the spirit box session again. Thistime I'm going under and Mitra is asking
the questions on that, and sowe've got the spirit box going, which
this one produced some very interesting resultsfrom this as well. A lot of
it was kind of gibberish, nonsenseand stuff like that, which that happens
every single time with the spirit box, you know, because you don't know
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sometimes like are you getting responses toyour question or are you just getting a
response to somebody else's conversation that's goingon, you know, which is very
similar to what happened with us andTawny Lewis at Hollywood Forever Cemetery. It
felt like the ghosts were talking toeach other and we just happened to be
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there, and then all of asudden they were aware of us, yeah,
that we were there. And Ithink that's what happened here too,
because there were a couple of veryinteresting moments there because Mitra had asked if
they worked at the hospital, andI didn't give a response, but the
EVP said I'm broken. Yeah.Then I you also said on the spirit
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box, yeah, yes, thespirit box said, I said stay.
Yeah, so I'm broken and stay. So I said stay. The EVP
says I'm broken, and I thoughtthat was very very interesting for that.
Mitra had asked, do you knowwhy you're here? And the EVP response
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to that question is the word sick. So we had asked a couple of
times about George. Again, thereweren't any responses to whether or not George
or Roger or any of those othernames that we heard the night before.
We didn't get any responses to that. But one thing that happened during that
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session, which was creepy weird,creepy, creepy weird, was I had
said take it off okay, yeah, you said take it off, take
it off. You were listening tospirit Box. He said take it off?
And I said take what off?And you were just silent forever,
and I was like, again,take what off? You were like,
what do you do you want me? Yeah? I was pretty like relentless,
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like with asking the same question becauseI want duplicate answers and I want
an answer, so I wasn't goingto move on. And eventually you said
his hat, right, and BJwas wearing a baseball cat. I was
wearing a baseball hat, and Isaid whatever, Well, I said like
you don't like his hat or somethinglike that. I don't remember the exact
phrasing, right, And then yousaid ghost because he had a hat on
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with a Mario ghost on right.It was like Boo from Mario was on
my hat, ya, so takeit off? Take it take it off?
His hat and ghost all in arow like that was really really interesting.
But also on the EVP, whilewe're not getting the responses and I'm
silent and Mitra is continuing to reask over and over again, which this
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is why it's good to continue askingthe question. It may seem annoying,
but it's not what do they wanther to take off? The word hat
is said. We got hat onthe EVP as well, so which is
what I was looking for, ifwe could get an EVP in spirit box
something that matched up. At thesame time, the wind of it,
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what is that was amazing, likewe got other different things going on.
The other thing from the second nightthat was really well during that time though.
Yeah, so along the lines ofme not giving up asking the same
question because you start saying something else, but I want an answer to the
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question, so I'm not leaving thatquestion. Yeah, you say something along
the lines, and it was almostlike I don't know, the ghost is
getting frustrated with me, and itsays, hey, attention. Yeah.
That was like well where I waslike, okay, I'm trying to but
you're not answering my question, likeit doesn't want to answer sort and it's
like, hey, I'm I'm tellingyou something else, you know. Um.
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It was that that was That wasthat was to go back and hear
that and I'm not knowing that allthis is being set, you know,
because I can't hear anything with theheadphones on and everything. I've got no
idea what Metra is talking about andit's it's an amazing thing to hear those
results. But that is the bestevidence I think that we've gotten is the
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back to back responses there that lineup with hat an EVP responsive hat followed
by us talking about the hat viathe spirit box is incredible. Now,
another thing that Mitra asked that itwas not on an EVP or or on
a or on the spirit box,but Metra just goes, can you knock
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on the wall? And then therewas a knock on the wall. Now,
first off, I say, canyou knock on the wall? Yeah,
and then there was nothing and thenyou said, ha ha ha ha
oh that's right. I forgot aboutI was like, I thought they were
just taunting me, like you don'twant to knock on the wall, You're
just gonna laugh about it. Andthen there was a freaking knock on the
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wall. Yeah, like they knewthey were like messing with me. The
knock on the wall was creepy,like going back and the and the maniacal
laughter that I did from the spiritbox because I don't remember doing that,
which is even more concerning. Whydoes it seem like some of the times
when we're doing these that I'm gettinglike the maniacal joker stuff like happening like
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every well, it's very interesting.I feel like anytime you're on it,
it's very aggressive. Yeah, likeit is. It is aggressive. You
said a lot of aggressive things,and we're at the haunted mansion at Saint
Louis as well. Yours was somuch more aggressive. We did alive and
yours was definitely way more aggressive.And I'm like, why are why is
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it always aggressive with you saying wordsthat would not be said over yeah,
a broadcast, a radio broadcast,Like you said the word pussy in the
hotel and I was like, youdon't say that. You can't say that
on the radio, right, Sowhere exactly exactly? So that's a there's
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a thing that I don't like whenpeople try to debunk the spirit box.
As you're just saying random things thatare coming through as the radio is scanning
through and everything, It's like,but those words wouldn't be on the radio,
So where is it coming from?So that's like the theory of thought
behind the spirit boxes, Like it'susing some words that are there, but
then is it also creating the wordsas well? And is the spirit communicating
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through you or the box itself.That's all of the above. I think,
I don't know, I think it'sall. I mean, honestly,
I'm not like one hundred percent onany of anything, EVPs or spirit box
or anything. I'm not one hundredpercent on anything. Yeah, but I
mean when you're getting intelligent responses likewe were two things, yeah, it's
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kind of it's interesting, you know. Yeah. And I wish we had
more, um like historical documentation tolike back things up, you know,
like I wish I knew more andcould find these names out and who died
here, who was here? Youknow. So that was a that that
second night was was interesting. Imean the first night and second night,
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I mean both of them great results, great, great information was gotten and
really like I really felt like,yeah, yeah, we're onto something here,
you know what I mean, Likewe've really we've got some evidence,
we've detected some kind of activity goingon in this hotel. And nothing felt
evil or negative at all, noneof that. There was not a single
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part of our investigation, communication,or anything that ever felt like I was
in any sort of danger. AndI know some people don't believe in like
the paranormal, and that's fine.Yeah, or if they find out a
hotel has haunted, they don't wantto say there because they think it's evil.
There's nothing evil there. I thinkwhatever's there is just they're just hanging
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out or its residual stuff and it'snot really there, you know what I
mean. Now, I'm glad westopped at the at two nights because,
like I said, we were onlythere for a weekend, so we had
two solid nights of investigating that wewere able to do there and everything.
And what is an important note isthat we had two nights of investigating and
we got the results that we got, but it was a lot of time
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and that's what we got. Youknow, I think that people need to
realize that when you're watching like ashow or anything that's on YouTube or anything
like that, and these guys areconstantly getting rampods, cat balls, K
two's whatever they're using to like gooff constantly, Like that's that's not how
it always is. It's usually wehad our emf out too, and they
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never went off anything. They neverever went off on anything. And it
really depends because you know, somenights we are at places where we are
getting responses on both things from anEMF and we're getting stuff on the digital
recorder, and some nights we areonly getting one or the other, and
so you know, that's just bound, that's just bound to happen. So
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but they I'm glad we stopped attwo nights because I felt like things were
getting a little bit too comfortable withus being there, and they were getting
a little bit too familiar with us. Because sleeping that night, all of
a sudden, I felt what feltlike at the bottom of my leg,
like down at my calf, likea hand like run like up my leg.
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Yeah right, And it was like, you know, I was like,
that wasn't me, That wasn't theblankets or anything like that. And
I just like sat up and I'mlooking and I was like okay, and
I just went and I just likewent back to sleep. But now this
is the second time that we havestayed at a hotel where we have done
some sort of investigating in the room. First one was the Cliffhouse. Where's
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to do something in the room?It isn't it isn't. It isn't it
isn't because I felt something right,we definitely I felt like we had invited
something in and I don't know likewhat it was or anything like that,
but that was it. After that, that was the only thing that I
felt. And there was no damagedone or anything. Again, it startled
me, Yeah, but that's that'sit. Like there was nothing spooky about
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it or scary about that. Like, it's a very amazing experience to be
able to have this kind of communicationand come away with what we were able
to come away with. So anydoubters out there about the Emily Morgan,
Yeah, the hotel is definitely haunted, Okay, one hundred percent. However,
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if you go on the San Antonioghost tours and stuff, they're probably
going to sprinkle a little bit ofembellishment on some of the stories because they're
trying to It's entertainment, you knowwhat I mean. They're trying to sell
you a story, and they're tryingto make it sound good, you know
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what I mean. That's just likewhat happens there. And I will say
this that there are a lot ofpeople and the folks that the Emily Morgan
told us this, they canceled theirreservations when they find out that the hotel
has haunted. And if you areplanning on staying there and you do find
out that this hotel may have somesort of paranormal activity or ghosts that are
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going on or something like that,don't worry about it, because, like
I said, we got nothing whenwe went to the twelfth floor and the
fourteenth floor. We got responses whenwe asked. But if you're not asking
for it, it's probably not goingto happen for you. You know,
we were actively investigating, We wereactively asking questions and trying to have the
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spirits make themselves known to us,and they did and it was very rewarding
and it was a great experience.So once again, thank you to everybody
who got us into the Emily Morganand allowed us to go in and investigate
in film and record and do allthe great things that we got to do.
Absolutely amazing experience there. We can'twait to go back in there at
another point in time and try tofind more answers, perhaps communicate with some
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of the people that we were ableto communicate with there. Anyway, guys,
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I mean, we've we're off.Let's put that in quotes. We
were off, we travel, Wejust didn't make any new podcast episodes.
But I promise you I was workingmore on this month on just make putting
out all the reels for Instagram andeverything. Yeah, then I had normally
I was like, I thought thiswas a break because we were so scared
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to like not post on social mediaor anything. So I went hard on
the reels and the memes. Well, I mean, it's like peek behind
the curtain. Metra's doing all thecontent creation on our socials and she's posting
all that stuff on reels. Inthe meantime, we traveled to Saint Louis,
created a whole bunch more content foryou guys, and we also,
um, you know, I'm youknow, beating the pavement talking to clients
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and arranging events and things like that, and you know, so it's off,
but just from recording the show really, But we're glad to be back
and we're happy to have you herebecause before we went away, we had
told you guys that we were goingto be doing an investigation at the Emily
Morgan Hotel in downtown San Antonio.It sits right behind the Alamo. Okay,
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guys, like, besides, yesand next to it. Yeah.
Really, if you're on the topfloors, you're like looking down at the
Alam. Well, that was likeour view from our room, we looked
right down into the Alamo was amazing. So but yeah, we did that.
We basically we recorded our final episodesfor June, and then the next
thing we were doing was we wereat the Emily Morgan and we were there
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for an entire weekend. They weresuper gracious to us. Thank you to
David for helping to arrange that,and thank you to Jasmine from Hilton for
putting us in contact with the EmilyMorgan so that we could get the ball
rolling on this. But it wasjust a tremendous opportunity to get in there
at this historic property in downtown SanAntonio, kind of learned some of the
history of it. Also, youknow, do some paranormal investigating, which
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we did. I don't know why, I said investigating, so weird there
I said investigating. It's like areal weird emphasis on the gating part.
But anyway, what's a little bitSo why don't we tell the audience if
they aren't familiar with it. Alittle bit of the history of the Emily
Morgan Hotel. Okay, So wherethe Emily Morgan sits, from what I
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gathered, it was built on topof where the original long barracks of the
Alamo was. So the Alamo whatyou see today was a much bigger area
than what it is like right now. So I think that's like it doesn't
register with people when they see theAlamo and they're like, wait, a
battle was fought here, and it'slike, no, there was like a
lot more to it. It's justyou know, I've been torn down in
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things. Yeah, and even likefor a long time. The they do
have some long barracks there now thoseweren't even there for the longest time,
and they recovered and rebuilt and didsome things. So anyways, that's what
it's built on top of. Sowe got like the whole Alamo area of
the battle and everything, you know, happened all right there. The Emily
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Morgan Hotel was originally built in nineteentwenty six as a hospital with medical offices,
and it was known as the MedicalArts Building. It was designed by
Ralph Cameron. It was Neo Gothicand It was supposed to resemble the building
in New York that's that flat ironbuilding from the eighteen hundreds. So that's
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what it was. That's what itwas modeled after. It it mimics and
it was the first skyscraper, theMedical Arts Building here. It was the
first skyscraper west of the Mississippi Rivernineteen twenty six, first skyscraper west of
the Mississippi. Yeah. So basicallyit was a hospital. They had a
fancy named Medical Arts Building. Basicallyit was a hospital with medical offices basically,
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so the building itself, it hasum you can call them gargoyles or
sometimes they're called grotesques, but ithas like faces of people who are sick
with like of different ailments and thingslike that along the building. They're still
there today, and so were themedical crests on the outside of the building
because it's just part of the buildingeven though it's a hotel, so that
stuff is all there. It wasspaces were pretty cool to see, by
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the way, Yeah, it was. And you really it's funny because if
you were at the hotel, Idon't think you really would notice it until
you like looked up, because nobodyreally looks up into the corners like you
would never know to sit, youknow. So this was our first time
that we've been able to stay thereand go in and investigate and everything.
But we've walked past that and Ihad never noticed that exactly. Honestly,
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we've gone past that building, we'vegone inside of that building and everything,
and I had never noticed those hadever thought to look up. Yeah,
they're right there, and it's reallycool. So it's a thirteen story building
and they skipped the actual thirteenth floorand made it a number fourteen because that's
what they like to do, superstitions. The building sold in nineteen seventy five
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and was renovated. It reopened innineteen seventy eight as the Landmark Building with
office spaces. So now it's justa generic skyscraper because the medical offices and
the hospitals moved to a different areaof San Antonio. People moved out of
the city and nobody was there reallyto go to the hospital anymore. Right,
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it wasn't office space for very longbecause in eighteen, I mean in
nineteen eighty three it was bought andconverted to hotel. Yeah, the original
brass elevators, the brass mail shootsthat we saw, the floor tiles and
the staircases were all kept when itwas converted over to the hotel. Yeah,
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which is now the Emily Morgan Hotel. Those things. Yeah, the
mail shoots are right in front ofthe elevators and I had wondered like maybe
they were somehow connected to the structureof the elevator and that's why they remained.
Because why did they keep them.I don't know. Um, it
just looked nice as a cool vintagelook to the to the whole product.
They're very cool. Yeah. Sothe hotel was named actor Emily Morgan.
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L here's the story of Emily Morgan. Yeah, she is known as Emily
Morgan, but her name was EmilyD. Westy. She was twenty years
old. She was a mixed racefree person. In eighteen thirty five,
she became an indentured servant for ayear to James Morgan in New York.
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So she was in I believe shewas born Innticuet. I hope I'm getting
this right. I think she becomesan indentured servant to James Morgan and this
was just for one year. Now, I don't know when she became free
but from what I gathered, fora person to become free, typically there
was some kind of contract that youhad to serve as an indentured servant for
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one year before you could be free. But I didn't see anything like that
on her, and they said shewas already free when she became the indentured
servant. So I'm not really sureif there's something lost there or what.
So. James Morgan had some propertyin Texas. It was called Morgan's Point.
He had a hotel there and shewas sent to be one of the
housekeepers there. On April sixteenth,eighteen thirty six, Emily, along with
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the others people who were working atthe hotel, was kidnapped by the Mexican
army and they were forced to travelalong with them, which included Santa Anna.
Emily was in the Mexican army campat the Battle of Santa sent to
Santa Centa, which Texas won ineighteen minutes. And this area is near
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Pasadena, Texas, if everybody anyoneknows that, it's like right outside of
Texas. The exact location of wherethis battle is is debated, and I
think there is like three historical markersall claiming to be the actual site,
but nobody really knows. Is rightoutside of where Houston. You said Texas
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and I was like, oh,I'm sorry, Texas. Sorry, I
was outside of Houston. It's likethe Pasadena Laport area, so it is
from that area. Yeah, Igrew up in that area in Houston area
and also in clear Lake area.But Pasadena because they have a lot of
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like um industrial stuff there, ithas a smell. It's known as Stinkadena.
Okay, okay, So anyway,a little local history for you.
Yes, So anyways, what happenedduring the battle was the Texans came in
the middle of the night early morninghours, they and bushed the Mexican army.
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They were outnumbered. The Texans wereor quote unquote Texans because it wasn't
really Texans at the time, andthey were able to, you know,
win this battle really quickly in eighteenminutes. Santa Anna actually put on like
soldier regular soldier clothes and took offand ran. He could try to oh
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yeah, he took off and ran. He was captured. They found him
and he was held prisoner for threeweeks, probably wasn't treated very nicely,
and they say he signed a peacetreaty, which ultimately led to Texas becoming
its own independent country. I mean, probably was forced to sign it after
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three weeks. I'm sure you're probablylike been whatever, who whatever knows what
happened. So the legend with EmilyD. West is that why they won
the battle so quickly, were allowedto get like this jump head start like
on top of the Mexican army wasbecause Santa Anna was having relations with Emily
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when the Texans engaged in battle.So Emily was said to be this really
beautiful woman and the inspiration for thefolk song the Yellow Rose of Texas was
said to be about Emily D.West and like her beauty and how beautiful
she was. Now, obviously shewas kidnapped, right, so whatever relation
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may be happening was most likely againsther will, right in no way,
Yeah, yes, so she wasprobably and some people say she heard like
the battle cry or something, orsomebody like yelling that the Texans were there,
and that she purposely distracted them,distracted Santa Anna so that you know,
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they could overtake the camp or whatever. So maybe that's what happened.
We don't know, Like, maybeshe willingly just kind of seduced him yea,
and to giving the Texans some timeand then you know, I mean,
all I gotta say is clearly hewasn't dressed and he grabbed some shoulders
clothes and ran because he would haveto take yeah, because he would have
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had his general uniform on, orI guess he would have if maybe he
could have been sleeping. Yeah,But I like the story that she knew
the Texans were coming. She purposelyseduces him because he's into her, right,
she distracts him, and then theywere able to overtake the Mexican Army.
So she's kind of like a hero. Um. Yeah, So Emily
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left from Texas in eighteen thirty seven. Her freedom papers had been lost because
you know, she was taking prisonerand they couldn't find her. Major Isaac
Morland commander and Galveson vouched for herand she was able to travel back to
wherever she wanted to. They lostrecord of her. They think she went
back to New York. There's somedebate what happened, but most likely she
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went back back to New York.So okay, because she was hailed as
like this hero like even even then, they were like thank you, okay,
thank you for the distraction. Yeah, so that's that's the story with
Emily D. West the Hotel,Emily Morgan. They kept the Morgan last
name, which I don't know why, like yeah, and I guess because
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that's just maybe at the time thatwas what she was mostly known as,
but that was like not ever hername, and that was just the name
of the guy. She was indentureservant too, and usually slaves took the
name of their master the last name, but she wasn't a slave to him,
so I don't know why her nameis Morgan, So we'll say Emily
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D. West Um. The hotelis ranked the third most haunted hotel in
twenty fifteen by USA Today. Thehaunted most haunted floors are the seventh,
ninth, twelfth, fourteenth in thebasement. Okay, the fourteenth floor was
the surgeries and it's supposed to smelllike bandages and antiseptic. The seventh floor
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was haunted by a bride who killedherself. Her ghost is seen in the
hallways and you can hear a woman'svoice and screams, and supposedly also perhaps
haunted by Alamos soldiers, which obviouslyit was built on the battlegrounds and people
have seen apparitions walk through walls onthe seventh floor, So that's what we
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got going on there. Some otherthings nurses pushing carts, surgical carts have
been seen. Also. The seventhwas the psych ward. The fourteenth was
like did I say the surgeries orwhatever? Yeah? Yeah. And also
there is no room fourteen o eighton the fourteenth floor because one plus four
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plus eight equals thirteen. Their teamsan unlucky number. So no thirteenth floor
and no room fourteen away yeah,which is interesting. You know, Mitra
nostalgia is a big seller these days. Who doesn't love a walk down memory
lane? You know, I've basicallybeen listening to the same exact music since
I was in high school. Thatreally doesn't shuck me. While some of
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sent you. For those of you, we stayed on the fourteenth floor.
I specifically asked for it because thatis the one that has like the most
ghost stories and kind of urban legendsthat go along with it. The smell,
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the people seeing nurses pushing carts,the apparitions and things like that.
The fourteenth floor is the most hauntedfloor there. So of course that's where
let's make get a home for theweekend. Right, Let's stay there and
check it out. First things first, absolutely gorgeous hotel. Oh beautiful,
like everything, like the pool wasamazing and whilst the story about the pool
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in a little bit too, butyou know we have it was just like
it was great. The lobby areais very welcoming, um, and the
rooms are beautiful. So if youare looking for a great place to stay
and you happen to be in thespooky stuff, uh, the Emily Morgan,
it's right there and you can exploreall of the great things that are
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in downtown San Antonio as well.So when we were checking in, uh,
they knew exactly who we were.They were like, oh, you're
here for the podcast and everything likethat. The woman at the front desk
was really nice to us and everything, and um, it's a double tree.
So we got our our our freshbaked cookies which is nice, yeah,
very nice. Just so you know, Emily Morgan, it is a
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double tree. It's not like youknow what I mean, So, um,
you will get those fresh baked cookiesand everything, which is really really
nice. Um. She also toldus, like, you know, we
should find somebody at the hotel that'swilling to uh, that can take you
out onto like the roof did sheset up at the top where like they
have to change out like the flagsand things like that, and I was
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like, oh, I was like, that's interesting. I didn't know you
could do that. She's like,well, she's like, we'll take you
guys out there and everything. She'slike, but you have to watch your
step because one wrong moving you'll fall. And I was like, yeah,
I think we'll pass, but thankyou for the opportunity. We're gonna go
ahead and not die. She waslike, if you've been drinking, it's
not a good idea to go upthere. I'm like, I'm not going
up there if I'm breaking or not. Yeah, seriously, no, I'm
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just clumsy. I don't want tohave a risk falling right like that.
No, but it was very nice. It was a very warm welcome,
you know. So the first nightthat we were there, we decided to
do a spirit box session in ourin our room where we were in and
you know, because first of all, guys, it's an active hotel.
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We're investigating an active, busy hotelin a very large tourist city in the
United States. So we've kind ofgot a pick and choose where we can
go in and do some investigating andstuff like that. So the room was
the best option for quiet comfort wherewe could really just kind of like you
know, hunker down and kind offigure out what was going on. And
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what's funny about that is where Iwas like a little bit nervous to do
that, because when you start investigatingin a place where you also have to
stay for an entire weekend, youkind of don't know what you're going to
be bringing in there and stuff andkind of get to that in a minute
and everything. But anyway, spiritBox session spirit Box session one, Mitra
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was under she had the noise cancelingheadphones on and she had the spirit box
going and everything, and we gotsome interesting responses to that. At one
point, I asked when they wereborn, and I feel like we hear
we heard them say December, whichI don't know. It sounded kind of
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like December, which I thought waswas interesting. I also asked what their
favorite color was, and the responsethat I heard is what color? Like
asking a question. Yeah, soI don't know what that was either.
Um let's see, um, theseare the EVPs. This is not saying
right. This is these are justEVP is not what I'm saying right,
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Because we had the digital recorder goingon, yeah, and me with the
spirit box, so we did wejust we want to double up and see
if there was anything that would correlateto what I was saying or whoever was
doing the spirit box with the EVP, or if it would add to it.
Yeah, there were a couple ofinteresting ones that we got from the
EVP during that session. Um.I thought that one of the most interesting
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things that happened was when I asked, you know what a video is,
and I felt like we got ayes on the EVP from that no response
on the spirit box. And Inoticed, for those of you who are
fellow investigators or just kind of likedabble in investigating is like a hobby or
something like that, when the spiritbox is quiet and there isn't any responses
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being said by the person who isunder that's when you get more EVPs when
you are when you're looking for them, you know what I mean. So
there's that. One of the thingsthat we asked for was confirmation because Mitra
had said the name Roger and wehad already heard that, and then we
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thought that we hear confirmation of thename Roger on an EVP as well,
that was after the name Roger wassaid, after we were asking questions things
like this. What's what's interesting aboutthe situation when Meetra was under was that
it seemed like it was very friendly, you know what I mean. There
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was nothing negative or anything like that. Like everything seemed more like they were
almost like as curious about us aswe were about them. Um. One
of the more interesting things that happenedduring this spirit Box session was as the
clock literally was on midnight, Metregoes midnight, like that's what she said,
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That's what the spear box said.And I looked over at the clock
and I like my jaw dropped becauseit was literally it was midnight, like
spot on. It wasn't twelve ohone, it wasn't eleven fifty nine,
it was exactly midnight. And Ithought that was really creepy and really eerie
that that happened at the same exacttime. So, uh, that was
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that was That was that was veryvery interesting. I think some of the
other things that we got during thespear Box session, I know, I
said, the name Dana yeah aswell. Um. Also there was some
Spanish Spanish yeah, And here's thething. A lot of Spanish was coming
through, yeah, and I justlike went silent because I was like,
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I don't know Spanish and I don'treally know what I'm hearing, so I
couldn't say it, but I know, I said I think I said Latino
at one point, and I alsosaid uno because I think you said how
many are here and I said unoor whatever, and there was just so
much Spanish and I was just like, I can't translate. I can't say
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this at all, you know.Yeah, So there was just a lot
of me not saying anything because I'mjust I can't understand really what's coming through.
But I think another something else thatcame through was Tabernacle, and I
like looked all over for that becauseI know, like there's like, is
it like a church or something atabernacle, but I thought it was like
something maybe it could be a lastname I didn't know, and I was
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like, Roger Tabernacle, Dana Tabernacle, Like is that Another Another name that
you got was George? You saidthe name, yeah, And I asked
if we were talking to George,and the EVP that we got said don't
worry about it, yeah, whichwas real creepy. And I said in
two used to ask why I wasthere, and I said injured. Yep.
It was a hospital, right,and we were on the fourteenth floor.
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We were on the surgical area.So it's very very interesting there.
Let's see, we asked if theywanted help, if we wanted help,
and the EVP response was okay,but there was no spirit box response to
that, and then we got arandom while there was just a moment of
silence and stuff like that, therewas an EVP of somebody going, you
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can't help him. And I thoughtthat was really interesting because we have who
we think is Roger in the roomwith us, then we have George,
and then we've got the name Danaas well. So are there three different
people in there either telling us thatwe can't help them? Or is this
a moment in time that we arejust experiencing where these three are now communicating
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back and forth about maybe a medicalincident that is going on or something like
that. But it was very veryinteresting that first night. The midnight thing
was the creepiest thing to me,Like when that happened, like I was
like, that's just such a weirdcoincidence, Like that was like sitting there
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watching us or something like that.I literally had chills, like goose bumps,
and it was it was an amazingexperience for that. And then there's
no good way, by the wayto bring somebody out from doing an S
TO session. And there's a realInstagram page you guys can see, but
like you know, because you arefully emerged, you are immersed, and
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you got the noise canceling headphones on, your head is down, your eyes
are closed, and you're just tryingto listen to any possible thing that comes
through. So I tapped Metra tokind of say okay, we've done enough
or whatever. Scared her because that'swhat happens. And then the second the
second night, when I was doingmine, she did the same thing.
It was so cautious too. Ididn't want to scare you, but I
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was like one BJ, I waslike, you know who you're talking to?
Come on, I know, butyou could see in the video.
I'm just so like delicately trying tolike touch you. I mean I was
also very delicate too. It wasn'tlike I like was like shaking you or
anything, because you're just very muchinto it. You're like such very deprived,
your eyes are closed, you can'tsee anything and you're listening to just
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the spirit box. Yeah, soit's creepy when someone touches you. It
was a very interesting experience and wegot some really really cool responses from that.
Now, also on the fourteenth floorwe've met. We mentioned before the
smell that is lingering there, butI will say this, it is not
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It is not constant. You aren'twith this smell. Now, anybody who's
ever been two a hospital or adoctor's office, you know that smell of
like the antiseptic things that are justvery sanitary, like you know that smell.
And when we were after we didour spirit Box session, we went
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back out because we were like,let's go floor some of the other haunted
floors and everything. Yeah, andwe got hit with a whiff of that
on the fourteenth floor. Well,after you go to the other floors and
you walk around and they come backto the fourteen, the fourteen floor has
a different smell yeah than the otherfloors, but it's not as strong or
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whatever. Yeah as people like toyeh make it out to be, you
know what I mean. It's definitelya different smell, but it's just it's
there, and you get used toit in like very seconds, and yeah,
it doesn't take long to get usedto it at all. But it
is different. It's it's a bitlike definitely effect is going on here.
Yeah, and like I said,it's not constant either. Because we first
arrived, I didn't think I smelledit, but I did smell it later
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on in the nights because it wasa ghost nurse just walking by. That
smell by very very possible, don'teven know. I did ask David,
who was our sales representative that wewere dealing with at the Emily Morgan,
and also Cole, who is thegeneral manager where the smell came from,
if they had any information on that, and they said no. They said,
it's just something that people talk aboutand employees smell, and it's just
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now part of the hotel and everything. So I mean you have to imagine,
I mean, if it was afully functioning hospital for a long time,
sometimes smells get into places that youjust can't get out. Yeah,
so that's what I imagine it is. That's just faint. Yeah, Well
here's the thing. So we wenton the Sisters Grim tour, yeah ghost
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tour, and I think it wasearly December this last year. Ye,
and it was really good, alot of information, It was really interesting.
Yeah. I had a little bitof, I don't know what you
want to say, a little beefwith how the stories were told, because
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a little woman who was doing thestory every location we stopped at, some
major paranormal event either happened to heror a family member or her best friend,
you know what I mean, Andit was just like too fantastical to
believe. And she had said shestayed on the fourteenth floor and that the
smell was so bad and so overpoweringthat she had to leave. And I'm
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like, so, I'm just waitingfor it to be like that, and
it just was never like that,and I'm like, okay, okay.
Yeah. She also said on thattour too that people had like the elevator
doors had opened on the fourteenth floorand people for a moment saw like a
fully functioning hospital and then kind ofsnapped out of it and then it wasn't
there. And I was just like, well, And that's one of the
things is that the she said theelevators are haunted. Now, these are
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the original elevators, so of coursethey could have mechanical problems because they're from
nineteen twenty six, but we didhave a strange occurrence on the elevator.
Now we had two straight too funnyoccurrences, So the first one is paranormal
perhaps. So we get in therethe hotel on the elevator and it's the
fourteenth floor. We get it onit all the buttons are push and I
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was like the one. I waslike, oh man, some kid pushed
every single button, which maybe itdoesn't really make sense because they would have
had to get off on the fourteenthfloor for them to all be lit up.
Right. We were there, soit didn't make any sense that they
were lit up correct, so becausethey would have not been because we're the
top floor. So we get onand I don't remember what floor it stopped
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at. We let somebody else in, but it was next Yeah, it
was very very close by. Sothe guy gets in and I apologized to
him. I said, sorry,some kid like pushed all the buttons.
And when I said that, theyall went off. No first he said,
he goes on maybe no, no, no, no, no,
no, no no no. Whathappened was they all went off. We're
like what and he goes maybe itwas the ghost When they all went off
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because it was literally like whatever happened, like it heard me, yeah,
say like a kid pushed all thebuttons and then it just flashed off.
It was so instantaneously. And thenhe was like, ha ha, maybe
it was a ghost and I waslike no, Idea grabbed him and was
like, are you getting me?I was like, man, because I've
heard about people getting trapped on it, and I was like if we I
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don't want to get trapped on thiselevator. First off, that's a relegit
fear of mine. Yeah, gettingon the elevator and getting trapped in it.
Like I always spring like, oh, I always have a water bottle
with me, and I always think, like, especially if I'm at a
hotel and I'm going out, I'malways like, make sure you have that
water bottle. You're gonna need itwhen you get trapped on that elevators.
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So anyways, second funny thing thathappened in the elevator. Yeah, so
we're I think we're coming. Idon't know where we're coming from anyways,
We're just in the elevator and Iguess we're going back to our room and
we stop at where the pool isin this mother and her child come on
today. Oh god. And heturns it looks at me. He's like
three years old, and he's like, are you a grandma? Oh my
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god. The mom was so shestarted laughing. It was so funny.
I just started snickering and laughing.She was like, I'm so sorry,
and I'm like, it's fine,because one, he's a kid, He's
a three year old. He's literallysaying the first thing that comes to his
mind. I looked like a grandmato him, So that's what he said.
I thought it was funny. Ihave kids too, min are older,
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but I remember they're young and literallywhatever's in their head comes out of
their mouth. And so I'm justdon't even apologize. That's fine. I
just thought it was so funny.And what was crazy about Like, what
was crazy about that situation is likewe had like gone out like and like
ben like exploring downtown and everything likethat. Like we were like dressed nice
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and everything like that. Oh yeah, yeah, I was dressed. Listen
to this. I was dressed nicein this black dress. I had like
the chicken cutlets and my bra whereyou like push them up, you know,
like the make them look fuller andBJ goes, you look like a
hussy. So that night I gotcalled a hussy and a grandma, and
I was like, waity, Iremember we got off the elevator. I
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was like, man, I'm like, I'm a hussy grandma. You're a
hussy grandma. That's right, theonly paranormal podcast with a hussy grandma.
Guys, you know you heard ithere for such an old man who says,
hussy, What is the problem?I don't know, I don't know,
all right. So onto the nextthing that we did was we went
out to a couple of the hauntedfloors and tried to do EVP sessions.
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Not not not ESTs method or spiritbox stuff, but we just we're kind
of sitting out they have like theselike chairs and like, yeah, which
was a problem because yes, theair hers elevator, so let's make a
noise. Well it's like I said, like you know, it was.
It's a fully functioning, active,like very busy hotel and everything. But
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we figured, you know, wewere out there like you know, like
one one thirty in the morning andstuff, we figured maybe it would be
quiet. We thought maybe we wouldbe the ones, right, Yeah,
we thought very wrong because like yatwas a lively, lively hotel. Um.
But yeah, so we we wewent out to a the twelfth floor
and we did an EVP session andthere was there's no results there um listening
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to all the audio, there wasno responses or anything. The elevator was
very loud and everything. Now,the weird thing that happened on the seventh
floor was man, it was likequick, like thirty seconds in or so.
Now we have a video of thistoo, which is really interesting.
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We didn't even begin like I thinkmaybe we introduced ourself or I just like
I think I think you introduced yourself. I'd have to re listen to it
to know if I had introduced myselfor if it wasn't until after this part.
But it was so strange because aboutforty five seconds in you hear a
stern female voice and it says situp, okay, yeah, sit up
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like that, and at that timeb J sat up and it was almost
like, I don't know if it'sreally weird, like because you sat up
like it was telling you to doit, and it was. It was
super weird, very strange. Oh, I can't even explain it. It
was very very interesting. It wasfunny too, because we were listening to
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that and then you were like,let me what you were like, I
have video and we were going backand You're like, did I tell you
to sit up? And I waslike, why would you have told me
to say? I literally was likeis that me? Because it's really clear,
and you know, sometimes with EVPsyou have to turn up the volume,
but this was obvious. Now Ihave like tenitis, I have ringing
in my ear. I have avery hard time BEAJ is like I hear
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this on the EVP and I'm like, I don't hear anything. Yeah,
so it's hard for me to discernso that I can hear this very clearly.
I know that it's like really loudand it's just like sit up.
And the fact that BJ physically hadlike responded to it is what was really
weird. Yeah, it was veryweird. So that happened almost immediately.
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And you know, so these werelike very short EVP sessions that we were
doing out in the hallway because again, um, you know, busy hotel
and everything. You know, therewas others. It's just the one on
the seventh floor when we were askingthe bride questions yeah, we were deposedly
there is a bride that died,right, the haunted bride. Yeah,
on the site. She was onthe psych ward. I guess she was
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right something. Yeah. So abouta minute thirty five in we got an
inaudible male voice on there. Wereally couldn't tell what it was. But
at two minutes and thirty seconds wegot another voice on there and I couldn't
tell if it was male or female, and it just said come see me.
And I was like like, aswe're listening to it, I'm like,
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what is going on here? Mitraasked what color is your wedding dress?
And we hear white, and Iwas like white, Like you know,
we're not hearing this in real time. This is like us sitting back
to it afterwards, looking at eachother like wow. And then Mitra's continuing
on and ask me more questions.Are you excited to get married? The
response we got from the EVP wasyes, Are you mad at your fiance?
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We got a no. And thenafter that this is kind of like
the last thing that we got.We either heard somebody say get them out
or kick them out, and Icouldn't tell even boosting the audio, slowing
it down if it was get orkicked, but the them out was really
there, and so who knows ifthey were talking to us or if they
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were talking to somebody else, butdefinitely some paranormal activity going on in the
hallway of the seventh floor there atthe Emily Morgan And those results were pretty
pretty amazing. And also why wewere doing that, Yeah, the elevator,
Like we said, the elevator wasgoing, we were trying to do
VP and it just opened and therewas like some people on it and they
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just like looked around and they laughedand then it closed like it brought them
to the wrong floor or something orI don't know what they were doing,
but that's one of the things thatthe elevators is that it will bring you
to the wrong floors. It stopsrandomly at floors. Yeah, I think
that's literally what happened, because theyjust like it just stopped and they looked
and then they started giggling and laughing. So many times happened though, you
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know where like that was going onnow, But again old elevators, so
you know, I don't know anythingabout elevators, so me neither. But
still, you know, very likeinteresting results there from the seventh floor.
Again. We did go to thetwelfth floor, but we didn't get any
results on the EVP for that.It was a very it was a very
noisy area. Yeah, but man, it was just like it was.
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It was just it was a veryactive first night in there. Um.
Now, the second night we decidedto go at it again. We're going
to do a spirit box session inour room again. See is this what
that night? Did you have thething that happened? No? Okay,
this was the next night, okay, just making sure, yes, all
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right. So the second night thatwe were there, we decided to do
the spirit box session again. Thistime I'm going under and Mitra is asking
the questions on that, and sowe've got the spirit box going, which
this one produced some very interesting resultsfrom this as well. A lot of
it was kind of gibberish, nonsenseand stuff like that, which that happens
every single time with the spirit box, you know, because you don't know
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sometimes like are you getting responses toyour question or are you just getting a
response to somebody else's conversation that's goingon, you know, which is very
similar to what happened with us andTawny Lewis at Hollywood Forever Cemetery. It
felt like the ghosts were talking toeach other and we just happened to be
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there, and then all of asudden they were aware of us, yeah,
that we were there. And Ithink that's what happened here too,
because there were a couple of veryinteresting moments there because Mitra had asked if
they worked at the hospital, andI didn't give a response, but the
EVP said I'm broken. Yeah.Then I you also said on the spirit
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box, yeah, yes, thespirit box said, I said stay.
Yeah, so I'm broken and stay. So I said stay. The EVP
says I'm broken, and I thoughtthat was very very interesting for that.
Mitra had asked, do you knowwhy you're here? And the EVP response
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to that question is the word sick. So we had asked a couple of
times about George. Again, thereweren't any responses to whether or not George
or Roger or any of those othernames that we heard the night before.
We didn't get any responses to that. But one thing that happened during that
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session, which was creepy weird,creepy, creepy weird, was I had
said take it off okay, yeah, you said take it off, take
it off. You were listening tospirit Box. He said take it off?
And I said take what off?And you were just silent forever,
and I was like, again,take what off? You were like,
what do you do you want me? Yeah? I was pretty like relentless,
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like with asking the same question becauseI want duplicate answers and I want
an answer, so I wasn't goingto move on. And eventually you said
his hat, right, and BJwas wearing a baseball cat. I was
wearing a baseball hat, and Isaid whatever, Well, I said like
you don't like his hat or somethinglike that. I don't remember the exact
phrasing, right, And then yousaid ghost because he had a hat on
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with a Mario ghost on right.It was like Boo from Mario was on
my hat, ya, so takeit off? Take it take it off?
His hat and ghost all in arow like that was really really interesting.
But also on the EVP, whilewe're not getting the responses and I'm
silent and Mitra is continuing to reask over and over again, which this
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is why it's good to continue askingthe question. It may seem annoying,
but it's not what do they wanther to take off? The word hat
is said. We got hat onthe EVP as well, so which is
what I was looking for, ifwe could get an EVP in spirit box
something that matched up. At thesame time, the wind of it,
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what is that was amazing, likewe got other different things going on.
The other thing from the second nightthat was really well during that time though.
Yeah, so along the lines ofme not giving up asking the same
question because you start saying something else, but I want an answer to the
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question, so I'm not leaving thatquestion. Yeah, you say something along
the lines, and it was almostlike I don't know, the ghost is
getting frustrated with me, and itsays, hey, attention. Yeah.
That was like well where I waslike, okay, I'm trying to but
you're not answering my question, likeit doesn't want to answer sort and it's
like, hey, I'm I'm tellingyou something else, you know. Um.
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It was that that was That wasthat was to go back and hear
that and I'm not knowing that allthis is being set, you know,
because I can't hear anything with theheadphones on and everything. I've got no
idea what Metra is talking about andit's it's an amazing thing to hear those
results. But that is the bestevidence I think that we've gotten is the
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back to back responses there that lineup with hat an EVP responsive hat followed
by us talking about the hat viathe spirit box is incredible. Now,
another thing that Mitra asked that itwas not on an EVP or or on
a or on the spirit box,but Metra just goes, can you knock
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on the wall? And then therewas a knock on the wall. Now,
first off, I say, canyou knock on the wall? Yeah,
and then there was nothing and thenyou said, ha ha ha ha
oh that's right. I forgot aboutI was like, I thought they were
just taunting me, like you don'twant to knock on the wall, You're
just gonna laugh about it. Andthen there was a freaking knock on the
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wall. Yeah, like they knewthey were like messing with me. The
knock on the wall was creepy,like going back and the and the maniacal
laughter that I did from the spiritbox because I don't remember doing that,
which is even more concerning. Whydoes it seem like some of the times
when we're doing these that I'm gettinglike the maniacal joker stuff like happening like
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every well, it's very interesting.I feel like anytime you're on it,
it's very aggressive. Yeah, likeit is. It is aggressive. You
said a lot of aggressive things,and we're at the haunted mansion at Saint
Louis as well. Yours was somuch more aggressive. We did alive and
yours was definitely way more aggressive.And I'm like, why are why is
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it always aggressive with you saying wordsthat would not be said over yeah,
a broadcast, a radio broadcast,Like you said the word pussy in the
hotel and I was like, youdon't say that. You can't say that
on the radio, right, Sowhere exactly exactly? So that's a there's
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a thing that I don't like whenpeople try to debunk the spirit box.
As you're just saying random things thatare coming through as the radio is scanning
through and everything, It's like,but those words wouldn't be on the radio,
So where is it coming from?So that's like the theory of thought
behind the spirit boxes, Like it'susing some words that are there, but
then is it also creating the wordsas well? And is the spirit communicating
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through you or the box itself.That's all of the above. I think,
I don't know, I think it'sall. I mean, honestly,
I'm not like one hundred percent onany of anything, EVPs or spirit box
or anything. I'm not one hundredpercent on anything. Yeah, but I
mean when you're getting intelligent responses likewe were two things, yeah, it's
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kind of it's interesting, you know. Yeah. And I wish we had
more, um like historical documentation tolike back things up, you know,
like I wish I knew more andcould find these names out and who died
here, who was here? Youknow. So that was a that that
second night was was interesting. Imean the first night and second night,
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I mean both of them great results, great, great information was gotten and
really like I really felt like,yeah, yeah, we're onto something here,
you know what I mean, Likewe've really we've got some evidence,
we've detected some kind of activity goingon in this hotel. And nothing felt
evil or negative at all, noneof that. There was not a single
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part of our investigation, communication,or anything that ever felt like I was
in any sort of danger. AndI know some people don't believe in like
the paranormal, and that's fine.Yeah, or if they find out a
hotel has haunted, they don't wantto say there because they think it's evil.
There's nothing evil there. I thinkwhatever's there is just they're just hanging
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out or its residual stuff and it'snot really there, you know what I
mean. Now, I'm glad westopped at the at two nights because,
like I said, we were onlythere for a weekend, so we had
two solid nights of investigating that wewere able to do there and everything.
And what is an important note isthat we had two nights of investigating and
we got the results that we got, but it was a lot of time
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and that's what we got. Youknow, I think that people need to
realize that when you're watching like ashow or anything that's on YouTube or anything
like that, and these guys areconstantly getting rampods, cat balls, K
two's whatever they're using to like gooff constantly, Like that's that's not how
it always is. It's usually wehad our emf out too, and they
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never went off anything. They neverever went off on anything. And it
really depends because you know, somenights we are at places where we are
getting responses on both things from anEMF and we're getting stuff on the digital
recorder, and some nights we areonly getting one or the other, and
so you know, that's just bound, that's just bound to happen. So
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but they I'm glad we stopped attwo nights because I felt like things were
getting a little bit too comfortable withus being there, and they were getting
a little bit too familiar with us. Because sleeping that night, all of
a sudden, I felt what feltlike at the bottom of my leg,
like down at my calf, likea hand like run like up my leg.
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Yeah right, And it was like, you know, I was like,
that wasn't me, That wasn't theblankets or anything like that. And
I just like sat up and I'mlooking and I was like okay, and
I just went and I just likewent back to sleep. But now this
is the second time that we havestayed at a hotel where we have done
some sort of investigating in the room. First one was the Cliffhouse. Where's
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to do something in the room?It isn't it isn't. It isn't it
isn't because I felt something right,we definitely I felt like we had invited
something in and I don't know likewhat it was or anything like that,
but that was it. After that, that was the only thing that I
felt. And there was no damagedone or anything. Again, it startled
me, Yeah, but that's that'sit. Like there was nothing spooky about
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it or scary about that. Like, it's a very amazing experience to be
able to have this kind of communicationand come away with what we were able
to come away with. So anydoubters out there about the Emily Morgan,
Yeah, the hotel is definitely haunted, Okay, one hundred percent. However,
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if you go on the San Antonioghost tours and stuff, they're probably
going to sprinkle a little bit ofembellishment on some of the stories because they're
trying to It's entertainment, you knowwhat I mean. They're trying to sell
you a story, and they're tryingto make it sound good, you know
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what I mean. That's just likewhat happens there. And I will say
this that there are a lot ofpeople and the folks that the Emily Morgan
told us this, they canceled theirreservations when they find out that the hotel
has haunted. And if you areplanning on staying there and you do find
out that this hotel may have somesort of paranormal activity or ghosts that are
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going on or something like that,don't worry about it, because, like
I said, we got nothing whenwe went to the twelfth floor and the
fourteenth floor. We got responses whenwe asked. But if you're not asking
for it, it's probably not goingto happen for you. You know,
we were actively investigating, We wereactively asking questions and trying to have the
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spirits make themselves known to us,and they did and it was very rewarding
and it was a great experience.So once again, thank you to everybody
who got us into the Emily Morganand allowed us to go in and investigate
in film and record and do allthe great things that we got to do.
Absolutely amazing experience there. We can'twait to go back in there at
another point in time and try tofind more answers, perhaps communicate with some
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of the people that we were ableto communicate with there. Anyway, guys,
that's all we got for this episodeof Unrefined. If you visit the
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