Monsters on the Edge #131 We Are Not Dumb Apes with Guest Carter Buschardt

Welcome to Monsters on the Edge, a show exploring creatures at the edge of our reality in forests, cities, skies, and waters. We examine these creatures and talk to the researchers studying them.

Carter Buschardt has been an investigator with BFRO for the last 15 years. Originally from Texas and currently lives in Missouri. He has had nearly 100 reports published to the BFRO web site and has interviewed over 500 witnesses and counting. He is an experienced outdoorsman and trained as an investigator for MUFON. He studied herpetology in college. Longtime special interest in Sasquatch long term habituation sites, burial research, infrasound, language and stick structures. He is a true, boots on the ground researcher / investigator and not a desktop warrior. He has met and visited the properties of nearly half of the witnesses whose reports have been published. He monitors and visits several properties with ongoing habituation activity to this day. He is also a contributing writer to Strange Knocks quarterly Magazine.

His fifth book, Baptized By Abduction, journals his abduction when he was just 8-9 years old in 1959. He and a friend were taken aboard a craft while riding their bikes in Dallas, Tx. These abduction events were ongoing up to possibly 2021. He has been hypnotically regressed 8 times, the latest was in February 2025. He discovered his abduction by accident in 2004.

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For all that.

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But we are live and we have an awesome guest,
so I want to get going with that. Here we go,

(05:34):
all right, guys, My guest today is Carter Bischard. He
has been an investigator with the BFRO for the last
fifteen years. Originally from Texas and currently lives in Missouri.
He has nearly one hundred reports published to the BFRO
website and has interviewed over five hundred witnesses and counting.
He is an experienced outdoorsman and trained as an investigator

(05:57):
for Moufan. He studied herpetology and college and has a
longtime interest in sasquatch Slush has a longtime special interest
in sasquatch, long term habituation sites, burial research, infrasound language,
and stick structures. He has a true boots on the
ground researcher and investigator and not a desktop warrior. He

(06:19):
has met and visited the properties of nearly half of
the witnesses whose reports he has published. He monitors and
visits several properties with ongoing habituation activity to this day.
He is a contributing writer to Strange Knox Quarterly magazine,
and he has several books published, with a new one
on the way. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Carter Bishard. Carter,

(06:41):
thank you for joining me.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh you hope me up?

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Can you hear me, I can hear you? Can you hear?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I hear you. Great. I set my headphones off,
so you know, I wanted to see this beautiful.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Bald head that is a lovely player there.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
So hey, well thanks for having me. This is really cool.
It's a great way to make the most of my
day because I usually, you know, piss half the day off,
and we're doing this right at high noon, so you know,
I'm forced to do something intelligent with my time. Appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
That's how I feel about these two. So yeah, awesome.
All right, Well, where where would you like to start?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
What?

Speaker 5 (07:22):
What have you got going on? I know we got
your new book coming out? Do you want to start
with that? Do you want to start?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
We just talk about that.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yeah, that's got you to cover right, Yes you did?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, dumb apers. This is going
to really torky off. But and I had I actually
had fun with the artwork Raven Hawk. I don't know
if you're familiar with her. She did my artwork on this,
and she actually took my eyeballs.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
She had me.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
She sent me a messenger said give me some faces
or some smirks. You wanted to put my smirk or
the look on my face on the susquatch he's going
to do for me. So those eyes are actually my eyes.
That's pretty talented. I can't I couldn't even begin to

(08:15):
do that, you know. Sadly, I used to look like
that back in high school. So you know. But yeah,
this book is you know, it's a compilation of my
other four books, and I'm doing strictly the quantum, metaphysical,
and paranormal aspects of these beings and these stories except

(08:39):
for a few or all from my habituation properties where
they have some bizarre stuff going on anyway, And so
so I'm putting, you know, with each family I chose,
I'm putting a couple of stories of traditional sasquatch activity,
you know, tree peaking or walking across the road or

(09:00):
you know, hearing a howl or seeing a structure or
something typical, you know, or and the rest is strictly
paranormal quantum stuff that most people just scoff at. Because
these people are living with these beings on their property.
They experience the stuff daily, weekly, monthly, yearly. You know,
one family probably twenty five and twenty seven years with

(09:22):
the sasquatch on their property. Just think about that. Just
think about that. You might see one every day or
every other day, or once a week just going to
get your mail. In fact, that's when they see one.
So it's a complete It runs the gamut of all
kinds of experiences, but each one of them have paranormal

(09:47):
quantum stuff they can't even explain, you know, UFOs orbs,
you know, something disappearing and reappearing right in front of
their faces. That kind of stuff in your stuff you
can't explain with you know, the ape theory. So that's
what I'm putting it in because it's getting really old.
It's it's stagnating our progress if we just stick with

(10:08):
dumb ape only it answers like out of a thousand
questions that might answer to you know, it's just it
doesn't explain a lot of stuff that people are seeing
and experiencing. So we just got to get off of that.
And that's what I'm doing, you know, with this book.
So it's a it's a pretty good book. And I've
got some updates from a lot of my families. There's

(10:31):
I'm still in touch with many of them, and I
go out to the I can a woman will let
me if they got, you know, free time, So I
go spend time with them. I've had all kinds of
weird stuff happened to me while I'm there. It's like,
well they're not bs and me because this is this
is truly unbelievable. I can't even grasp it. And they

(10:53):
told me and I'm there experiencing, and I'm going, awesome, Well,
these aren't liars, you know. So that's my that's my criteria,
is spending time with these people and absorbing what they're experiencing.
It it's it's it's just the most incredible thing, you know, ever.
So that's why I'm putting it, putting a new one out.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Very cool. When when do you expect that to hit
the stores?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, I have a deadline of November tenth from the printer.
Now I don't know if I'll make that, but I'm
trying to. You know, I was going to do it
as an electronic only book because people aren't really buying
bookshock beers. The economy sucks, you know, I mean, you know,

(11:38):
the twenty five or thirty bucks for a book you
can buy groceries for four or five days, you know.
I mean, it's it's it's getting to be that way.
People say, well, I'd like to buy your books, I
just can't afford them, you know. And even if I
do them a cost me, that's fine. Sometimes I can't
afford them at that, you know. So I was going
to do a kindle book only for like fifteen bucks.

(11:59):
Is I have all these photos and all this, but
you know, the publisher just taught me out of it,
because you know, people do like the feel of a book,
the smell and the feel of the pages and all
that stuff. And I agree, I like that better. So
so I'm gonna I'm gonna put a one hundred copies
out and see what I can do with them. But
it should be a good book. It's interesting, it's all.

(12:20):
It's all true stuff. None of my books have any fiction.
There's no made up stuff. The only thing is falsified
is the location and the names of the experiences.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Everything else is real, you know.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
So flat Rock Glennon says, I buy real books as
well as I do.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
So there's just yeah, yeah, see that that's the sentiment,
you know. But you know, twenty five or thirty bucks
for a book is a minterful color. It kind of
gets So what I'm doing is doing less color, still
having the photos, but just less color, very very high
grade black and white photos and they look pretty good.

(12:59):
And you know, if somebody has the book and they
don't like the black and white photos, I'll send you
that color ones if you just message me.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
You know, Kim says she buys books as well. See
there's plenty of people out there.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
See still well it's still a rough economy. So that's
the deal, you know it. You know, it costs fifteen
sixteen hundred bucks to print one hundred copies of a
three hundred page colored book. You know that, you know,
but I got to get my money back, and you know,
sadly it's about that. But you know, I sell a
lot of them and give them away at times, but

(13:36):
ah sell them at cost if I need to. But
you know, we'll do what happens. But you know, it's
a Hayley. I saw it. I was gonna say, hi.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
At Lisa, she has all of your books.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah she does, Yeah she did.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Oh here's here's a good question. Flat Rock flat Rockland says,
what I can't read an electronic book by fire when
the powers out.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, I'll send you twenty bucks to pay the electric
bill in the book when you buy it. No, I
know what I get it. That's a good one. Flat rockets,
that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Awesome.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
All it takes is one solar flare and the entire
you know, electronic internet and everything data is gone. So
it's as good to have hard copies of everything.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
So well, the story I was going to tell is
on the cover of my second book. I think I
sent that one to you, but it's this right here.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Okay, Now you didn't send me the cover, but I
got the picture.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
So yeah, it's the picture. Yeah that, and I've already
already labeled it in this new book. This is the
greatest gift I have ever been given doing research. Seem
to get now when I just think about it. But
so twoy nineteen I went and led an expedition in

(15:02):
Illinois because the original guy bailed out because it was
COVID and he had thirty or forty reservations. And when
COVID went out, people were just hanciling left and right,
and so when I got down to like seven or
eight people, he said, you know, screw it, I'm not
going to do this. I don't want to do this

(15:23):
expedition because no one's going to be there. So he
canceled out, and so there were still four people that
wanted to go, and they said, I don't want my
money back, we want to go on an expedition. They
were wanting to get away from all the crap with COVID.
So I Caroline with BFI, called me and said, hey,

(15:44):
would you be interested? And I said, you know, yeah,
I've got a good friend, Harold who's a partner, fellow
researcher that lives in Illinois and he could be of help.
So yeah, I'll do it. So so that's what I had.
I had four people in Herod and so we went
to if. This is what I did not know at

(16:06):
the time, but when I go in researching area, I
go to like the small mom and pop diner breakfast
joints that open at five point thirty in the morning,
and I go ask all the overall crowd. I say, hey, guys,
I'm just in town looking for a good place to
do some research and checking out where's a good place

(16:30):
to look for sasquatch? And after all the snickering dies
down here right yeah, you know, they'll answered, They'll say, well,
i'll tell you what. I'll tell you why you don't
want to go, And that's this place down there by
the water plant. You do not want to go down there.
There's not a person, man, woman, or child that will
go anywhere near that place after dark. It's haunted, it's cursed.

(16:51):
I don't know what's wrong with it. Nobody will go there,
So you don't want to go there. So I said, well,
thank you, that's where the heck I'm going. I mean,
why would you tell me that, because you know that's
a perfect spot. So I went and scattered it out
and it looked pretty good. I mean it looked really good.

(17:11):
And we stayed in the Trail of Tiers State Park,
which was about twelve miles east of where this area was,
and so we camped there and then we drove our
cars to the parking lot in this area. So but
the all five of us and myself, that's six showed up. Now, Harold,

(17:37):
my partner, he's had a couple of strokes and cancer
and so it's really hard for him to get around.
This is very rugged, downhill, rocky terrain. A flood had
come through there, long ago and ripped all this area up,
so it was really treacherous and he just couldn't make
the trick. So he was going to stand his truck
and in the parking lot, and we had radio contact

(17:59):
week extend touch and we'd keep them up to speed
on what's going on, and he could hear it and
see and all that. So I get the people down
there during the day Saturdays when we first went out,
and we went down there, and I'll be darned, I
had some of the best foot prints and structures. We

(18:20):
had dozens of footprints. It was crappy substrates, it was
all chipped rock and all this from the flooding and
the rock slides and all that. But there were some
really good fifteen inch prints there. So these two couples
they got to learn how to pass prints and they
see the structures and they know how to do this

(18:41):
and that, and they're all excited. So we went back
after the day. I left all the prints there to
cure for the rest of the day, possibly overnight, and
we've got back about eight thirty nine o'clock at night,
got back to the same location, and this was October,
so it was it was nippy, and they got dark

(19:02):
early and there was nobody out because it was covid.
I mean, it was vacant. You know, you couldn't go
anywhere because there was nothing open. So we're walking down
there and we suddenly have little twigs, twigs, twigs and rocks,
pebbles being tossed at us, and so you know, I

(19:24):
picked up a couple and tossed them back up and
they come back out. And so, but they weren't they
weren't making any noise. You could hear them monitoring us.
They could hear them following us. The sides of this
ravine were about twenty five feet tall, twenty to twenty
five feet tall on each side, and like the floodwaters

(19:45):
is just going to cut a hole right through there.
So they weren't going to come down. We weren't going
to go up. But they were watching us, and you
could hear them kind of snorting and grunting a little
bit and shuffling around. But they just would not Normally
they'll do something. They'll throw a bigger rock, or they'll
snap a twig, or they'll do something. It was just
it was almost it was it added to the creep

(20:08):
factor because They were not being overt. They were just
watching this, which that's my job. I want to watch
the stas blog. They're not supposed to watch us. It's
not fair tables prepared, so what the heck. So anyway,
we go down to the very end of this trail
and that's where this log was.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
And.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Right about ten feet north of where that log is
is another big tree and it was wedged up. It
blocked the whole ravine, not just part of it, It
blocked the whole ravine. And I saw a I did
get a nice probably a juvenile hate signature, and was

(20:53):
peeking up and down from behind this big log, and
then it ran back around the log and ran up
into the woods. We heard that. That's the only thing
we actually heard, so there was some action there. So
we decided to go on back home. By then, it
was about ten thirty eight, ten thirty at night, and
they weren't going to give us anything else. And due
to the seriously bad terrade, I could have gone along

(21:17):
further around, but it was just not safe, and so
we left that night, went back home. It was exciting,
it was exilierating. Everybody was, you know, excited. They're more
excited about the casting and all that stuff, you know.
And so anyway, the next morning we got out and
Harold was feeling better, so he was going to go

(21:37):
down there and walk down there with it. So we
all went back to the same place. We went to
check the footprints we had cast, and they were still
just because it was cold, they hadn't set yet, And
so I went ahead and left them and we'll go
back and get them, you know, later Saturday night. So

(21:58):
Saturday night we'd go back and do our things. And
Saturday deer season had opened that day and the fourth
was like dead. There was nothing because you know, the hunters.
And when I went out there Saturday to kind of
look around a little bit, I saw a couple of

(22:18):
guy missed up in the trees in their stands. So
they'd already come in and were right where we were,
but they weren't gonna be there at night. So Sunday
night we get there, and excuse me, excuse me, Saturday night,
not Sunday night, Saturday, Friday and Saturday with the night
of the expersion. Saturday night we get there. Harald's there,

(22:41):
walks down most of the way. He stayed with us
and we're hearing the same kind of runting and snorting
and shuffling around, and they're throwing sticks and twigs. This
time we do hear a little twig snapping and stuff
like that. So it was just really odd that they
were not more overt and you have been because it
was hunting season. Maybe they thought we had guns or something,

(23:03):
but we didn't no kill anyway, So it was eventful.
We had fun with it. The hackers had a great time,
and if there was a big adventure for these these people,
they had never been out in the woods like this
at night on a sasquatch expedition, and they saw footprints
and structures that were so excited. So it was a

(23:24):
success from that from that area. So Saturday night, before
we leave, I take my trail camera and to leave it,
uh at the intersection, see with the two logs are
kind of hooked together. I left it right in the
crook that that l there on the ground and hopefully
something would trip it. You know, never get a picture

(23:47):
of a sasquatch on a trail cam, well except me,
But if you don't put one out, you're guaranteed not
to get a picture. So I left it there crossed
my fingers and went back, went back. I spent the
night Sunday morning to get up. Excuse me, and I

(24:08):
said by goodbye to Harold. We got break camp and
I'm on. You know. Where we were was about three
hundred and fifty miles from uh Liberty, Missouri, where I lived,
Kansas City, basically, so I had to go by and
get the camera and I was gonna call my wife
on the way. I tell her I'm leaving now. And
I got my camera and I'm head now. So I
get to this log there's you know, I get my camera.

(24:30):
I'm looking at it. I'm going, what is this? What
are these rocks?

Speaker 5 (24:37):
But what is this?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Somebody playing a joke over something like Again, if I
get cheery, head excuse me. But I'm looking at it
and I'm going, whoa. There was nobody here. We left
about ten ten thirty Saturday nine. There's nobody out. There's
nobody here, who's dead quiet and it's COVID and there
was nobody out in the woods at all. And I

(25:00):
I'm looking at it and I'm suddenly going, oh my god,
that's the that's the expedition people, that's me the point
of rock I'm the leader and some four people I
had behind me. That's me leading the expedition. And Harold,
that little round rock at the other end where I
had my camera, that's him because he's kind of shortened around.

(25:23):
He's kind of a chunky guy. But he was with us,
wasn't with us, but he was steparated. And I'm looking
at this.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
I'm going, oh my god, sorry, you know, and I'm
going they're making contact, they're letting me know, they know
who we are, they know who I am, and so
I'm freaking out.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I call Harold and he's we can't even talk. We're
both so excited, you know, and I'm bawling because I'm
so happy. It's like I'm doing now and I'm just
I was just it hit me like a hunch. She
was just like, oh my god, this is I hear
about this from other people, but you know, they know me,

(26:08):
they know what we're doing here. And I'll tell you
the reason this was done. But in a minute, so
I hang up on Harold. I call my wife. I said, hey,
I'm about to head on and you're not going to
believe this, you know. And I was telling her about
the rocks and all all this stuff on the on
the log, and she's going, that is awesome. What time

(26:31):
was that, I said, I don't know. We left around
six six thirty and it was dead, so somebody would
have had come here in the dead of night and
do that because it's dark. It gets dark at five
o'clock in fall, you know, in Illinois. She goes, well,
I was getting ready for bed last night eight thirty.

(26:54):
I'll have to see if I can keep my composure.
Blue orb flew into our bedroom, made two or three circles,
did a couple of flips, went into the bathroom, and vanished.
While my wife was standing there looking at it, I'm going,

(27:16):
holy crap, they know where I live. Burn the house.
Let's get out of town. They're gonna kill us.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I was just like, oh my god, they know where
I live, they know my wife. They don't they know
where we are. Holy crap. And I couldn't believe in
She was, oh my god. So I'm on my home
on the way home, and I suddenly realized that this

(27:43):
is the trail of Tears, and this gully washed out
ninety four graves of Native Americans that were on the
forced March of Death. From the Carolinas to Arizona, California,

(28:04):
wherever they were going, and they died. They froze to
death on this very spot because they were waiting for people,
because the Mississippi River is just up the road from
where I'm at. This is still water plant in Murphysboro,
and so they were waiting and they froze to death
because the people that were getting there couldn't get them

(28:24):
food and blankets in time because they were hindered by
the winter storm snow. And so, come to find out,
when this thing got washed out, washed out ninety four graves,
there was bones and pieces of corpses everywhere, and being

(28:51):
a very rigidly i'll just say, racial air, yet they
put them back in the ground as fast as they could.
They tore down, they tore down the trail markers that
marked this is the trail of tears, you know, the hateful, racial,

(29:14):
racially motivated people in that particular area. And I didn't
know that when I went and researched it, those signs
had been torn down. So we were showing respect and
being quiet and not tearing anything up just because that's
what I would do anyway. You don't do that on
an expedition, but I think they felt like we were
showing respect for the area and the people that died,

(29:38):
you know. I mean, I knew it was the Trail
of Tears, I knew what came through here. I knew
they marched through here, but I didn't realize all those graves.
And then the Cherokee, which is the main tribe. The
Cherokee tribe wanted the proper burial garments or blankets. They
wanted red or yellow blankets, and that's what they had

(30:02):
been buried with because the traditional Native American barrier. Whatever
they did, that's what they did it right. Well, they
hateful rednecks in that part of town just dug up
what they could because they were forced to. And they
just buried them hastily without any notice to the Native
American tribes of the area, so they could come and
do their own celebration of life and do whatever they

(30:24):
do when they bury their dead. Nobody was ever notified
from the Native American tribe in the neighborhood, and that
was just a horrible, nasty thing to do. But that
just blew my mind that they it came back at
night and put those markers out and said we know
who you are. And they even deliney dated between Harold

(30:47):
being with us but not with us.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It just just.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
It blew me away. It was it was. It was
the craziest form of communication. And my wife got the boat.
I wish I'd have seen it because she was in there,
you know, getting ready for badness. Blue orb just appears
and flying around the room and circles and start student
flips like it's like showing off or saying goodby or

(31:12):
hello or something. Then it goes into the bathroom and vanishes.
I mean, that gets me every time I tell the story.
I can't help them because it's such a meaningful edit,
you know. And since that time, I've had telepathic messages
from Sashquatch people, four or five of them since then,

(31:36):
not a lot, but you know, and they usually are
looking at me from above, Like I'm down in the ground,
like in a hole, and there's grass circling this hole
looking up and I see these Sashquatch faces kind of
looking down going looking at me. I'm going, well, hey, hey,

(31:58):
how do where is this? This woks just like my
research area, where where is this? And there's like sashquats
laying around They're laying on logs, are leaning against the tree.
The kids are baking sticks in the ground, digging for
grubs or mice, and they're just a day in the life.
And they just said home. This is home, and that's

(32:24):
all they said. So it was either that place or
my one of my research areas here in Missouri. And
I think it was the research area in Missouri because
I've looked a lot more like that. But that was
like the most moving thing that I've ever experienced, you know,

(32:45):
And I couldn't I couldn't even talk as I was
bolting so bad, just like now, I could barely talk.
But it was just like it was the aha moment
in the book. I'm calling it a shoulder tap moment
because they're like, we know who you are, and it's
not like the mafia and you own money. It's like
it's a good thing. They know who I am, I

(33:07):
know where I live. And I think they didn't say it,
but you know they did that. I think, you know,
they kind of like me, you know, they don't dislike me.
It was just I don't know how would I put
that into words. It's just, you know, if I tell
this story twenty five times in a row. I'll ball
twenty three. Yeah, the only other two times just because

(33:29):
I'm out of liquid. But it was just a monumental
event for me, you know, because the work I put
in has paid off. They made connection to communication with me,
and a lot of things have happened at our home
here since that day. And since that day, I started

(33:54):
a word document called Strangeness at our Home. All kinds
of bizarre stuff is happening here since that day. Somebody
tapped me on the head three times while I'm sitting
there and watching TV with my wife on the sofa.
I look over at here, like, you just tap me

(34:15):
on the head? Oh, why would I do that? You're
sitting right next to me. But it was like, who
does that? You know? We've had some other weird stuff
happened here, you know, but I think they come here
and prank me every now and then. They just come
here and let you know they're around. And it's a

(34:37):
lot to absorb for people that are probably on the
fence of you know, paranormal or quantum type of things.
But this is like I'll go to my grave, tell
them the story, and you know, if you want to
shoot me, go ahead. Do it on the side because
I want this prefaced stay around.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Well, so let me ask you this, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
What is?

Speaker 5 (34:59):
What do you think of that? How do you how
do you quantify or whatever? The fact that you're having
this experience in Illinois and your wife is having an
experience in Missouri. And I don't get me wrong, I'm
not poo pooing or anything. You're having these two separate
occurrences that you established to be the same creatures or entities.

(35:24):
So what do you think that they are?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Then?

Speaker 5 (35:25):
If they're not flesh and blood, what do you think
these things are to be able to have that interaction
like that?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Well, I think they can, you know, used portals, and
they can change their molecular structler structure and disappear and
reappear someplace else. I think that's like a no brainer
for them. It's a lot to swallow when you see.
You know, the first time I ever saw one ever,

(35:54):
I was leading an expedition in Missouri in two thousand
and well over thirteen and it vanished while I was
watching it on the thermal. It just went boom like
a flash bub and blew up and disappeared because it
didn't know. We were there in the forest in the dark,
waiting for some lost members of our party. So we

(36:16):
were sitting in silence, and I was we had no
radio content, so I was scanning with my thermal and
everybody was just quiet. Don't say a word because I
want to be able to hear him of one of
the radio's crackles, you know, because we were down in
a holler and they were lost and to know where
they were. So and I thought I saw I did

(36:36):
see the heat signature coming through the woods. I'm thinking, Okay,
be quite everybody. I think this might be them. And
it walked around the corner and it wasn't them. There
was a sasquatch and it just took one step and
vanished because it didn't know we were sitting there on
radio cyclists. We were just it boomed and nobody saw
because I was watching it on the thermal, so I

(36:58):
don't know that it was even. So what I was
seeing was a heat signature, but it was not in
solid form, or somebody might have seen it when I
walked around and disembodied and vanished, but no one said they.
It was just bizarre. So I believe and know that

(37:18):
they have the skill set. I can't explain it because
I'm a scientist, but you know, molecular theory, quantum theory
allows for the possibility of demolecularizing yourself and reappearing somewhere else.
You know, there are I can't remember how many they are,

(37:44):
probably up to twenty one ways that quantum is explained
as possible through Einstein, Max and some of the others.
But it's a happening thing. And my witnesses, my habituation people,

(38:07):
they're calling me with the same things I've seen and
experienced in other people. They're all strangers. Nobody knows anybody.
You know, did I meet by happenstance the one hundred
craziest people in the United States? And they all called
me and gave me their stories. Half of them were

(38:29):
reports to be a fr Oh, and so these people
are sitting on this stuff and they're afraid to say
anything for your ridicule and mockery, which you know, the
people closest to you are the ones that make you
feel the stupidest. You know, your wife and your family,
immediate family. So but yeah, I believe it. I just

(38:52):
cannot explain it. I've seen it. I sat down on
the porch of one of my families here in Missouri,
and we uh, they grab a six pack or two
of beer. We sat on the front porch and they said, well, Carter,
here's your lucky chance. So we sat there and we

(39:14):
started throwing sticks and rocks across this road, and they
would come back and we'd throw them back, and and
this is juveniles. I've been to this property a couple
of times where I was throwing all this stuff, where
where I had hung five mirrors in the trees, got
a you know, dollar tree by those little cheap mirrors.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
They're you know that big, but you know.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
You can see your face. Well, three of the five
that have disappeared. So there's some sasquats looking at his
or her reflection for the very first time and seeing
it that's not reflected in a pond or a river
or a creek. And you know a symbiotic relationship that

(39:57):
they had with the Native Americans. And we had captured
the Native Americans and destroyed their their lives and their camps.
We were taking their pictures. They hated that. They thought
when they saw the photo of themselves, they thought we
were stealing their souls. You heard you heard that. Yeah,

(40:23):
they thought we were stealing their souls. Well, the symbiotic
relationship with Sasquatch and Native Americans who told who that theory?
They're stealing your soul. So when the Sasquatch don't like
trail cameras and all that, well, you know why because
number one, you're going to prove they exist. Number two,

(40:44):
it may be more of a metaphysical thing. You're stealing
my soul. If you have my picture, you can take
my soul and do with it what you want, because
my soul is inside that picture of me. Nobody knows
what they know and think. Really, but I'm just trying
to if I'm a human trying to logic figure all
this out, and I want to believe in this stuff,
and going, well, you know, I guess your soul could

(41:05):
be in your inside the body that's been taken, had
a picture taken out it, so on that piece of
paper could be your soul in your body. I mean,
of course we know that's not true. But to a
society that knew nothing about any of that stuff in
the seventeen eighteen hundreds, hey, that would make sense to them.

(41:26):
So but I have too many people exclaiming and telling
me the things they're seeing, the orbs that turn into
a sasquat in the house, that comes through the wall
and then it leaves the same way. It turns back
into an orb from a sasquatch and goes through the

(41:47):
wall or out the window, through the window, and it's gone.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Can you can you go into a little more detail
on those I'd be interested in hearing some of those stories.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, I have a woman and she's out west, can't
be specific, but he experiences these things. Now. Her husband
is avowed skeptic. I don't believe in these things. Animal.

(42:19):
Well we've been married forty years, so you better believe
in you. So, but he's never seen one, and he
didn't know what she's looking at because he's never seen anything. Well,
about four years ago he finally saw one because he
was staying up late three in the morning watching TV

(42:41):
because he had a knee replacement surgery. He didn't want
to take the drugs, so he was just trying to
get so sleepy watching TV he would just fall asleep
and pass out. And while he was watching TV, sasquatch
walks across his front yard. You look it right through
the picture window. The TV's right here, and he's looking
seeing this. It's just walking by. It takes a look

(43:03):
over at him and looking through the mirror and just
keeps walking. And he told his wife, I gotta tell you.
He didn't tell her right away, waited for a couple
of weeks, but he finally told her, I saw one
the other night. I believe you. I finally saw one.
And shees been telling him about the orbs and then

(43:25):
turning into little beady, little bitty orbs and crawling into
the trees. They leave their home, fly into the trees,
and that's where they get their their power. They sleep,
they restore their energy. That that's a theory. Uh So
she has several pictures five or six lights kind of

(43:47):
like square like square lights like this boot boom boom,
boom boom. They're about, you know, three or four inches apart,
and they're glomed to the side of a tree. And
I have a guy here in Arkansas holds the same photo. Now,
what do you do with that, suf? You know, he

(44:09):
didn't stand out around long enough to find out because
when he was watching these lights twinkling up and down
the tree, he was watching this mist was forming in
front of him, and it was two one larger, one smaller,
like somebody wearing ghosts, you know, sheets over their human form,

(44:32):
and it started getting thicker and thicker, and so they
were gonna materialize, and see said, I'm out of here,
So he didn't stick around to see what happened, but
he got the photo night, so things of that. But
the Sasquatch, she has this incredible gifting thing. And I've
got some photos. Their marginal at best, but I do

(44:54):
see what she's see but you know, if it's in disarray,
if it's not an obvious sasquatch, you gotta be you
gotta be careful about it. I believe that, I believe
you're seeing it. I believe you believe it. But you know,
but what what the what's doing was what's really going
on with her now is the mother Sasquatch has two babies,

(45:22):
probably twins. They look to be a sansize and everything.
They will come to the window outside of her bedroom
and the little babies will be holding these teddy bears
that she puts in these bags and hangs on the
trees as the gifting, and she has seen them. But

(45:48):
the babies are holding the bags. But when they put
them back into bags, they both put them back in
a different bag than they got it from them. And
so when she goes out the next day, those bags
are hanging on the tree. But you can definitely tell
because you know they're the Ziploc bags. So you've got

(46:09):
on'es got a red strip on top of one's got
a green strip. Well, the girl Teddy Bear and the
boy Teddy Bear are in the different colored baggies from
what they were in, and she watched them. I mean,
that's super creative if she's bsing me. But she's send

(46:33):
to me. I've got these pictures and stuff, and she's
send to me hundreds and hundreds of dollars. She's bowling
up all these thousands of photos eight by ten and
I've got boxes of them. I haven't even gone through
them all. And she's in the orbs, the orbs that
are flying. There's a heart shaped Valentine orb that is

(46:54):
shown to her all the time, day and night. It
looks like a little heart and it's an orb. It
turns into it turns from this white little thing, looks
like a little top into a heart shaped orb. And
I'm gonna putting that in this that in the new book.
But it's just what do you do with that? She's

(47:17):
a sane, rational person. Uh, now he has seen one
morph from an orb into a sasquat in his bedroom.
They sleep in separate bedrooms because he's, uh, what do
you call it? Snore? Snoring?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Sleep? Abne has got one of those sea pat machines,
so half the time it keeps your awake. So they
sleep in separate bedrooms. But he thought, but you know,
this is the I use the word ignorance politely. I
believe I saw that one. I saw it. I know
it exists. I believe you. I do not believe what

(48:00):
I just saw. I do not believe they can do that.
But he just saw it. He saw it. But I
don't believe they can do it.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
So what do you do with that?

Speaker 2 (48:15):
You know? I mean in the book, I've told you know,
I've never spoken to him. He doesn't do any of
this stuff. She does it all. I said, well, you
can't have it both ways. Is your watch standing there
in front of you or is she a ghost or
she's neither, or you can't have it both ways? Which
is did you see the sasquatch, and then you saw

(48:37):
one multiple months later, materialize in your bedroom, throw itself
to you, and then disappear, and you do not believe
you saw that. So what do you do with logic
like that? But I am firmly convinced I believe it.
I've had the stuff happen to me with that blue

(48:57):
orb here and another ofvent that happened to me when
I had in mind speak making me see things that
weren't there in Missouri in twenty twelve. They can do that.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I do not know.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
You know, you don't know me personally. You don't know
that I'm just sitting here trying to sell books and
telling me a bloney stories. I mean, this is like
from the bottom of my heart and this stuff is
it is real. It's really happening, you know, and it
brings me to tears emotionally, because I'm going this is
actually really, this is real stuff. It really happens. People

(49:35):
aren't crazy. The crazy ones are the ones that don't
believe it. You know, if you just can't wrap your head,
I understand it. You know, everybody has their own opinion.
There's no hate love for anybody that doesn't believe. Like
I do or see you whatever, It doesn't matter. If
you don't believe, you don't believe. But if you do,
be hateful and nasty, well the gloves are off. I'll
be mean and nasty back to you. But you know

(49:57):
I've seen this stuff.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
You know it.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Just what do you do.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
When you see an experience it. My wife, he reluctantly,
has been made to experience the sasquatch twice with me.
She's had paranormal experiences with ghosts and stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
She was cleaning out her grandparents house up in Iowa
excuse me, Nebraska, So she's had paranormal stuff, stuff knocking
her head off her head and tapping her on the
shoulder and knocking over boxes while she's in the house
by herself. So she's had that. She believes in that part,
but this part too until she met me, you know,
and then with the abduction. She was with me when

(50:40):
I found out about that. So she's she wants to
deny what she would be prone to. She can't, you know.
And that's that's the thing with Rebecca and her husband Mark.
I believe this, but I don't believe that, and I
saw both. I mean, if you you barnaby. If you

(51:01):
saw one disappear right in front of you, would you go, well,
that was a really good gummy, or would you go, oh,
my f and g what did I just see? I'm
not stoned, I'm not drunk. I'm not using defective equipment.
What did I just see? Which would it be for you?

(51:23):
You know? You got to flip a corner and stand
in a corner of one of the corners, you know,
And this stuff keeps coming at me. You know. I've
got an email from a woman here in Missouri just
two or three days ago. I've took her squatching with
me where shit happened when we were together. But she's
got stuff. It looks like something's landing on her property

(51:46):
and sasquatch are getting out and doing something and getting
back in this craft and flying off. I've got some
of the video that's happening in three in the morning
and it's during a port. But there's nothing in the
area where she's showing me. There's nothing there during the day,

(52:06):
but at night there's some red triangular or something and
it opens up about halfway in some humanoid something and
it's not an alien. It looks like a sasquatch or
something else gets out and moves around. Is doing something
around this after red whatever it is, it's red triangle.

(52:27):
It's going around like it's trying to fix something or
find something that's wrong or something. Who knows. I know
her and I trust her. She's a retired professor, she's
a scientist. She's a certified skeptic too. It took her
out in the woods, you know, and we saw in

(52:49):
herself that you cannot explain. And her husband's the same way.
I don't believe any of this now, I do because
I just saw one. So I mean it was the same.
Now he's having a little trouble with the paranormal quantum stuff.
But so I got to pull up a coin. I'm

(53:10):
going to stand on the corner of the weird and
strange because that's what I've seen an experience, and others
are telling me the same thing. None of us know
each other, And you know, I could get a call
tomorrow from somebody, maybe somebody listening here that's a guy
like hey, And where most of my data came from

(53:30):
that told me this was going on was the bfr
O reports where people would not tell me the truth.
They would tell me about some other report that had
nothing to do with what they called in about in.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
The first place.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
And then I said, want you tell me what you're
really getting at. What are you wanting to tell me?
I will not use your name, I will not publish
this report to be a pharaoh, I will not use
your location, and just tell me. And one by one,
slowly that people started telling me what they were seeing

(54:09):
and experiencing other than the free peaking in the Knox
orbs orbs in the house, UFOs, giant UFOs. It's looking
more and more like the UFO sasquatch connection is actual
a thing, you know, because a lot of my witnesses
were reporting seeing a sasquatch right before or after an

(54:33):
orber UFO event, or seeing a UFO or orb event
right after a sasquatch. They're somehow nected or maybe they're
attracted through the presence of the other, so they show
up to see what's going on. I don't know, but
you know, so you probably find it hard to grasp

(54:55):
some of this stuff, but the public, but it is happening.
And what Barnabie, if it hasn't happened to you yet,
you're doing enough weird stuff. One day, something really bizarre.
It's gonna happen. You're gonna go, oh my god on
the phone.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
We've had one of the first not the first expedition,
but one of the first expeditions that we did with Bigfoot.
We actually or I actually saw a blue basketball size
orb out in the woods. And I don't want to
say like there was any It was on a Bigfoot property, obviously,
but I don't. I didn't hear anything or see anything

(55:36):
besides the orb. The people that we were with had
heard stuff in the woods where it was, but I didn't.
But I actually caught the orb on thermal and it
just looks like a soap bubble going across. It's not
hot or cold. There's no differential between the background or
the you know, the the foreground of the heat signatures.

(55:57):
It's just a circle that goes across the screen. And
the same property, my mom has seen, like you said,
these small white orbs and they're all clustered around a tree,
and she'd see them out all night because they would
sit on in the middle of the property there and
me and my partner would go walk the property and

(56:18):
come back. And we had this whole routine and stuff,
and she would see these things all night, these things,
and there's a lot of stuff in the comments section here.
I want to I want to point this out too.
We are live, obviously, you guys kind of know that
the people that are commenting, But if you have any
questions for Carter, throw them in the comment section and
we will get to them before we wrap things up today.

(56:40):
Here just kind of summarize some of this stuff. Octopus
with no Friends said he saw a silhouette behind a
tree that flew away as an ORB with another witness
as well, and then he kind of says, this small
silhouette watching us. Then a tree glowed old and and

(57:02):
that's when the ORB showed up. So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, So, I mean I believe Octopus. I mean, you
saw it. You're not mentally deranged, you're not on psychotic drugs,
you're not smoking dope, you're not you know you're drinking.
You've got good equipment. If you were using equipment, you
saw what you saw, your rational human being, So why

(57:25):
would you doubt yourself? Barnaby, your mother. I just brought
up stuff that your mother and you've never told me
that story. So is your mother a nut.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Well, you know, to remember you're in the will you better.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Be nice to her?

Speaker 5 (57:41):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, But seriously, do you think she was seeing things?

Speaker 5 (57:46):
No, No, she's She's seen orbs and stuff on several instances.
The small ones. Yeah, not like like I said, I
saw the blue basketball, but she sees the small like uh,
maybe baseball size, I would say, or smaller baseball golf
ball size. I'm not going to ask you this when
when you were talking about octopus brings us up true

(58:07):
true trees bro telling you man, do you think when
when people are you mentioned like these things going into
trees and stuff to possibly recharge or something, do you
subscribe to that as being this like portal wood knock
sound that some people talk about.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
No, I don't support I actually have never heard that theory.
But you know, a knock is just simply a knock
to communicate, okay, you know, and that's either done with
chest popping, clicking their teeth, or just making a telepathic
sound where it sounds like a wood knock. Because you

(58:50):
would find me hard pressed to agree that you could
pick up two dry pieces of wood in a rainstorm,
which I've been in. Somebody bang on a tree and
it be clear as a bell. It's just gonna be
bu It's gonna sound like a dull fun you know.
So I think they can make those sounds orally a

(59:14):
you are orally not you know, you know, and or
with their teeth or cheek popping, taking your cupped hands.
I mean, there's all kinds of ways to make those sounds.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
You know, that's more likely. Honestly, I had a guest
on my show that if if you haven't, if the
audience hasn't listened to the name escapes me right now.
But she was worked with the bonobos, uh at the sanctuary,
and she talked about the bonobos will go and drum
on the roots of trees with their hands. And if

(59:50):
you're studying these these other apes or whatever and they're
doing this behavior, why are we so you know, confused
as to why we think that that sasquatch or something
does this when we already know that other creatures make
the same sounds a different way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
So yeah, so it's it's in it, it's in there.
Innate behavior happens to a degree. But you know, uh,
the the brain size of the gems and gorillas is
not the same as the sasquatch beings by any stretch.
So they cranial capacity is you know, two three times,

(01:00:29):
because gorillas actually have a small brain compared to you know,
their size relations. So uh it's I I cannot turn
a diff ear to stuff that's being told to me
by complete strangers because I've experienced it myself and seen
it myself. So I can't just out of hand go well,

(01:00:51):
I'm sane, but you've got to be nuts. You know,
you're telling me things that I've heard from five hundred people.
So are they all crazy? No, there's something going on.
The government doesn't want us to know. The government knows
all about this stuff. You know, you can't tell me.
They don't know, so they know whether they're tied to

(01:01:13):
the uh you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
When I was regressed regarding my abductions, sasquatch name was
brought up by the regressionist is knowing of my work.
So why would you know that or know what it
is if you're just a dumb abe, you know what?
Just little things like that. You know, I'm going mm hmmm,

(01:01:41):
we're we're we're the dumb ones. We you know, we
can build rockets and go to the moon, but we
we have our head in the same when that comes
to the reality of what you know, what we consider
the dumb apes can do, well, they're not. There's dumb
apes and then there's fast black, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
So I do want to to bring this up as well,
because if you've mentioned the abduction and stuff a couple
of times, you have another whole book, Baptism by Abduction,
and we went into that on my other show, The
Paranormal Spectrum a while back. So if you're interested in
more on that, you can listen to the whole interview
with Carter on that show as well, so we don't
have to delve too much into it, but there's a
whole story behind it and a whole book as well,

(01:02:21):
and really really good interview there if you're interested. So
but let me let me ask you this real quick
then too, do you think when when we're talking about
these things, are you familiar with Christopher Nowell? Yeah, okay,
so Christopher has a theory as well as a lot
of other people. But talking about how a lot of

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these metaphysical things that we're talking about with sasquatches, the
you know, the the manifesting, the disappearing, and stuff. He
believes that this could possibly just be the ghosts of
sasquatch and that these creatures are one hundred percent flesh
and blood. But people are seeing disappearing and showing up
just like a person. Is the spirit or the ghost

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of ones that have passed. What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Well, I never heard that theory, but I couldn't argue
it because there may be some tweaking needed or some
you know, metaphysical quantum knowledge in my brain that I
don't have yet to understand that more completely. But you know,
I can't say no to that after seeing all the

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stuff I've seen. I can't say no to anything unless
it's proven to be outrageously impossible or quite possibly real
and true. You know, But that's a good theory because
it's it's not I the ghost part. Boy, People are
still they're seeing them in a solid form. So if

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they're materializing, are the materializing as a their solid form
or selves or is it just a ghost where it's
just a whisper transparent that. I don't know, But you know,
I'd be open to listening to that theory, because why.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Not you see, like, you know, like soldiers in Gettysburg
or I personally have seen full bodied apparitions of people
that look like they're there until they're not there, you know,
so it I mean, I've I've seen two entities that
I would say off the top of my head that
look like a person standing there until they weren't. And

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so if this is what people are seeing, you know,
an actual sasquatch standing there, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, well where I went black a minute ago? Was
there are twenty two up to twenty two dimensions, as
agreed to by science in general. So if dimension jumping,
which was supposedly quite possible according to Einstein and others,

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why couldn't a being the flesh and blood on this
planet not have those same skill sets. There's a really
good book to read, Everything you Know Is Wrong by
Lloyd Pie. Read the chapter about the Sumerians and the
auto Knaki, how they genetically altered us in the apes

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here on the planet to get the humans that we
are now, so we could help them mind gold dust
because they were trying to poke patch the hole in
their atmosphere. Powdered gold, for whatever reason, is really good
for patching up holes in atmospheres. I don't know how

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any of that works, but read that chapter it is.
It will blow your mind. And it fits right in
with a lot of really bizarre stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
It also explains some of the other weird creatures, because
if they were using different creatures and genetically engineering and stuff,
that's where you get the dog man, the menotaars, the
all the all the sphinxes, all that stuff that's in
Greek mythology, and you know, all those other creatures and
stuff that were one office or whatever. All makes sense
if you subscribe to the theory.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, yeah, I read that. I was just going. I
went out and bought the book and I read it
about eighty nine thousand times already. It's just like, oh
my god. It has another book, a book that came
after that. It's called Everything you Know is Still Wrong.
It's a ticket book right after that. I haven't got
that one, but you know that at a Naki and
the Sumerians, and they document that in all those gold

(01:06:31):
tablets and cylinders that were dug up, many of those
are missing. Chucking. I wonder if you US.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
Hasn't No, probably the Vatican.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yeah, there you go, you're right right continent, Yeah, Vaticans I.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
Don't think the US has got much of that stuff.
I think I think it's somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yeah, yeah, but there's just too much, like uh lamb
Verack says, down here are too many unknowns to realize
any possibility. You have to keep it completely open. Mind.
You issued, you know, and you know. Considering is not believing, considering,
it's just considering. If you don't want anybody to know,

(01:07:10):
don't tell anybody to be a dirty little secret. You're
gonna be a closet navy believer. Tell anybody. Then your
friends at work and your wife can't go go sleep
on the couch or full of crap. Don't tell me
that stuff anymore, scaring me, share the kids, I want
a divorce whatever. Yep, I took after the wrong to

(01:07:32):
the very ultimately and anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
So but that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
We don't know what we don't know. But you can't
say no Jesus.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
All of a sudden, a huge comment just popped up here.
Oh my gosh, all right, we'll read this one out loud.
It's it's relevant, all right. Uh just got on. I
was sixteen when I was walking home along a rear
tracks and I had just got home and laid a

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box on my back porch to chain up the dogs.
I had left over steaks people didn't eat. I walked
back up to get the box and looked up and
right where my aunt lived to see a huge flying
saucer with seaport windows. I guess I made a gasp noise,
and I'm at least three lots away from the saucer

(01:08:26):
shaped and it looked like it was on fire. Then
it changed into a ball and went into the ground
near a small I don't know, near a small something
it cuts off.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Yeah, that's pretty trippy right by itself.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
We don't know what kind of propulsion or whatever went
into the ground in a near a small yacht. Yeah,
we don't know what kind of propulsion. We don't know
what kind of demands, skills and powers there are. We
don't know anything. We're just stupid humans.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
We're just about a lot of actually talking about you know,
the the UAPs now as they're called, you know, talks
about being trans trans medium, so you know, being able
to go through different substrates water, solid rock, everything without
you know anything. So yeah, absolutely, we.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Don't know what we don't know. Government knows it all.
They don't want us to know, going to monetize it,
weaponize it, and politicize it before they let us know
what's going on. And remember three years ago, four years ago,
UFOs don't exist. Remember we forgot they do exist. We
forgot that. Yeah they do. There's the UAPs, we call
them u at ps. Now the UFOs don't exist. But

(01:09:47):
ups do you're so far of crab government? Come on, man,
stop it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Do you do?

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
You remember in twenty twenty, the government released a document
that said we have of off world vehicles, we have
like captured whatever. And now they deny that report. I
have it printed somewhere. It's in a stack of stuff
right here. But uh, they just outright deny that this

(01:10:16):
report came out. Yet they did. They released it says
we have we have vehicles that were not manufactured by
anything here on earth. They came from somewhere else. And
you know, it was this whole report And now they go, no,
we never we never released.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Yeah, they're called a crap. You know, they live below
the seas, they live, you know, they live in the volcanoes,
they live in the caves. They're ever work. We're just
here and they're monitoring us to make sure we don't
blow up the planet they got or the planet. So
they're here, they've been here for a long time. They're
going to be here long after we're going. Absolutely, So yeah,
it's it's a it's a it's it's actually it's a

(01:10:53):
great time to be alive because it's just it's fascinating
if the disclosure will come through, because they've already lied
to us a dozen times about all this stuff. So
just get over yourself. You've got all the money, got
all the power, you got all the weapons. Tell us
the truth. Throw us a bone, couple two or three
of them. Yeah, I might slip you a couple of them.

(01:11:13):
I'll give you a book. I'll give you a book
for free, Like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
We know all this already. We don't want your book.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
We use it for a doorstop get out of here.
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
Awesome, man, we are we are live here. We're going
to wrap things up here in just a second. If
you actually have a question. I see a lot of
comments and stuff, and I'm sorry I can't get to
them all here. But if you actually have a question
for Carter, throw it in all caps and we'll get
to it right before we wrap up here. Uh, you
got a brand new book coming out here, hopefully sometime
November December. It should be out. Yeah, we are not

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dumb apes, so that should be Where Where can people
find that? Where can people find all your books?

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Well, I'm stuff published, so if you want a hard
copy book, you buy them from me. But all my
books are on Kindle on Amazon. This one will be too.
But I autograph all my books. They're full color. There's
no fiction. These are real people having real events, just
like we've been talking about. And you know, there's pretty

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cool pictures in there, and I think you'd be really impressed.
I've got some good stuff. People are sending me some
crazy stuff, and you've got to have an open mind
to read books. You just have to at least want
to consider that some of this stuff, if not most
of it, is actually happening. It'd be happening to you.

(01:12:38):
But anyhow, you can look me up at sq explorer
at gmail dot com. You can order my books straight
through me, or you can go if you just want
the Kindle version, go to Amazon and look them all up.
They're all Sasquatch Evidence of an Enigma one, two, three, four,
and five, and the Abduction Books on there too.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
Yeah, we got the Abduction book here. There is links
in the show notes for all the Amazon books as
well as I put the link to Strange Knox Magazine
in the show notes because I know that you are
an author as well for that, so shout out to them.
So we have one one all caps question for you
here there. It is what is a nepheline.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Well, the nepoline were supposed to be the fallen angels
from the Biblical times that fell out of grace. I'm
sitting on the right hand of God. So they are
basically were supposed to be evil or demonic, and a
lot of people have said, well they were the Sasquatch,
and the nepheline worked a lot, a lot, and so

(01:13:43):
they started equating them with Sasquatch, and Sasquatch started being
compared to Nephelin and nefilin to Sasquatch. And I don't
think there's a connection to either too other than there's
some kind of physical resemblance, oh basic eight foot tall,
long hair in one thousand pounds. Other than that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
Similarly, I've always I've always had a problem with the
nephelam theory as well. I think that if Sasquatch is
in the Bible, it's related to Esau, who's this eight
foot tall legendary hunter. He's covered in hair and he
gets banished up to the mountains and his descendants live
up in the mountains and stuff. So I've always thought

(01:14:22):
that if if the Bigfoot are in there, they're probably
more related to him than Yeah, well it was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
The red red haired giants here in Kandahar, Afghanistan when
the Marines. Several people came out and said that happened.
Then it got quashed. So you know, but who knows?
Like I said, government's gonna lie to us. We don't
know what.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
You know? Absolutely, just keep seeking the truth. That's all
we can do. You know your own truth, what you believe,
and what you you've got out there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
So I'm content with myself every day I go to bed.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
Absolutely. I mean, final thought, what do you want to
want to leave people with today?

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Just have an open mind. You know, some of this
stuff we're taught from the day you're born, you come
out of the birth canal, till you're eighteen to twenty two,
depending on if you go to college. We're told how
to see the world by the government. Schools, colleges, science,
social media. We're told how the world is and what
is real and what is not. Only when you're out

(01:15:28):
from underneath all the educational stuff do you start to
have open mind to start going, well, that didn't really
make sense. So have an open mind, read a book,
look up something. Because the government does not have your
best interest at heart regarding information of what's really going
on in the cosmos. They just don't Knowledge is power

(01:15:51):
and we don't have it. That's it. That's worth about
three four cents right there.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
This is good verrax is Latin for seeker of truth.
I just thought it's at the end, So that's cool.
Awesome man, all right, Carter, awesome talking to you. I
really appreciate you coming on. Always always a pleasure and
look forward to our next chat again. So absolutely all right, man,
you take care and I'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Lire a right Barbi. Thanks mane It.

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
All right, guys, that is our show for this week.
Thank you guys for watching. Make sure you go check
out Carter's new book and as soon as that comes out,
it should be a good one, especially if you're into
all the weird and the other metaphysical side of Bigfoot.
And Sasquatch always good time. And go on over to
the Paranormal Spectrum, my other show on Thursdays and you

(01:16:47):
can hear all about Carter's other book, Baptized by Abduction.
He goes into a lot of detail on that as
well on that show. So interesting, interesting stuff. So until
next time, guys, thanks for watching, thanks for tuning in,
remember like, subscribe and share all. Thanks here on the
Untold Radio Network and Cryptis Anomalies and the Paranormal Society
for all of my research. Until next time, guys, I'll

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see you on the edge.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
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