Real American Monsters #17 Mothman's Warning: 1967 UFO Horror Revealed

Hello, my friends in Monsterland. Join us tonight on The Untold Radio Network's Real American Monsters as we welcome Linda Sigman to the studio. Linda isn't just a witness—she's a survivor. In 1967, at just 16 years old, near the banks of the Ohio River (20 miles from Point Pleasant, WV), Linda had a terrifying, life-altering encounter with a massive cryptid she identified as the Mothman, alongside two unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

This shocking event is only one part of her incredible story. Linda is a lifelong Psychic Empath with the rare gift of Discernment, having experienced the paranormal since age 3, when she recalls a visit from her Guardian Angel. Now, she considers these gifts a blessing, using them to help others process their own unexplained experiences.

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You've seen her story, but you've never heard the full truth. Linda’s unparalleled experiences have made her a sought-after authority in the cryptid and UFO world.

Catch Linda Sigman's story on:

The History Channel—The UnXplained with William Shatner

Travel Channel—Monsters and Mysteries In America

Exposing the Strange—Cryptids Documentary (2024)

Paranormal Horizons

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Linda is also a celebrated speaker at the annual Mothman Festival and has been featured in Alternative Perspectives Magazine ("Who's Who in the Cryptid World").

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (01:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:50):
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Speaker 3 (02:51):
Swaplcome to American Monsters.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Hello Lo, Lo, my friends and monster Land Tuesday night,
once again on the Untold Radio Network's Real American Monsters,
and we're back in the studio. We're back in the
chair and we're calling the shots for the next ninety
minutes and once again we will not disappoint. We have
another great guest with us tonight, Miss Linda Sigmund is

(03:23):
with us. Linda's been seeing on the History Channel, the
Travel Channel. She has a documentary coming this summer from
Fox Nation. She's a guest speaker at live events such
as the Mothman Festival. She's been on the Who's Who
in an Encryptied World in magazines. Linda has done it all,
she has been it all. She is the true og

(03:45):
of the Mothman and we're excited to have her with
us tonight. Because this is the first time I've ever
had a guest on the show that new Mothman, and
she actually got to experience the Mothman back from nineteen
sixty seven. She's one of the truly unress maybe lucky
or unlucky people that during the like a thirteen week

(04:08):
week period of time back then, there was being cited
and seeing all over the place, and she's one of them,
and with her boyfriend, I got to experience the Mothman
along with other stuff. So very excited to have her
here tonight. And also I'm very excited to see everybody
in the chat. Everybody's uh tuning in and then dropping in.
I just want to say, click, cloat everybody. H the guy,

(04:31):
the Squatch Father himself, Manford, Santa Rica's with us. Good
night evening now, Kim Ki, Kim kincaid is with us tonight.
Good evening, Kim, Sharon, Hello, Sharon, Good evening, Sharon. Stephen
Wolfe is on time tonight. Yeah, Stephen wolf is here
on time. Glad to see you, my friend. There's Mike
Morgan on time. I haven't seen him around yet. Good evening, Bob,

(04:52):
Hip three, good evening, Good evening, Johnny Hill, a lot
of new names, and welcome to Real Mecan Monsters. Everybody.
We're excited to see it. Yeah, Michael Morgan is here.
Good evening, Mike. I'm glad to see you there. So
I'm very excited for the show. I'm very excited to
learn a little bit about the Hoffman and a little
bit more about her experiences. And uh, we're gonna hear

(05:13):
about a lot of experiences from the Mofman all the
way to Sasquatch at her own place. She has some
some incredible Sasquatch activity at her home, and so she's
here tonight to share all that with us. So without
further Oh wait, one more thing I forgot. We're going
to run a contest here. So the contest is to

(05:34):
be a guest host on the show on Real American Monsters.
I haven't decided on the guess yet. I might have
you get the guests. So in order to win that,
you have to go to Real American Monsters at gmail
dot com, send me a send me a note and
just write down an experience that you've had with the

(05:55):
supernatural or sasquatch or anything, and then I will pick
my favorite one and then whoever wins gets to be
my co host for a night and uh on the
Untold network, So uh look forward to that. So that's
how you win. Again. The Wrenches can't win, and they can't.
We can't do that. It's in the rule book. And

(06:17):
uh so don't forget real American monsters at gmail dot com.
And that's it. So, without further to do, our guest tonight,
Miss Linda sig Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you? Yeah,

(06:46):
I'm very excited. A good friend of ours, Mike Caine,
Michael uh introduced us and said you got to have
Linda on the show, and so here you are. And
uh I messaged Kine today and told him you would
be on the show tonight too, so I'm sure he's watching.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I can't Hello everybody.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
So welcome. So I'm very excited about this show because
I don't know too much about the Mothman. I don't
know too much about and there are also a psychic
median too. I forgot to add that to your list
of accomplishments. And that's a true gift, and that's a
gift that some people are blessed to have and you

(07:25):
are one. So I look forward to hearing more about
that too. So let's there's some of the people in
the audience probably know who you are, and some people
probably don't know who are you want to just give
everybody just a little small bio on yourself and everybody
a little bit more about you.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I grew up in southern Ohio, in the town of Pomroy,
and it's a river town that is about twenty five
minutes northwest Point Pleasant, West Virginia. And I grew up
during the time of Mothman. And I was a junior
in high school at the time of my sighting, and

(08:05):
it terrified me. I've worked through it and I'm here
to tell it and it was very exciting and and
I'd like to share it with you.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oops, something happened here. Did you see that? That's something's
going on here.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I'm a slider. I affect I affect equipment, so it
might happen. Almost always happens when I'm on a podcast
or something. I've blown out camera lights either.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
I don't know what's going on here. I can't get
you back to where you belong.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Want me to go out and back in.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Hold on, just let me check. Sorry, guys, I don't
know what happened. This is never happened before. I don't know.
Let's see, all right, there were sorry about that technical difficulties.
I guess you told me that before the show that
you had effect on.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, I sure do. I've blown up microwave, little oven lights,
street lights, cars, all kinds of stuff, yez, the drill,
all kinds of equipment, low and more.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
So there was so there was like a thirteen week
span back when the Mothman was being seen all over
Point Pleasant? Is that correct? Right about right?

Speaker 3 (09:45):
It began in November I think on the fifteenth of
nineteen sixty six, and it ended thirteen months later on
the fifteenth of December when the bridge collapsed in Point
Pleasant and that spanned over the Ohio River between Ohio
and West Virginia.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
So, before we get into your site, well, what was
like the first what was being reported in the papers
at first, before you even had your site, and what
was what what were these days the papers?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
There was a radio station called WMPO that was local
and people were calling in. At first, people started seeing
lights along the river and seeing orbs and different things,
and people would call into the radio station. And then
a lady named Mary Higher who was the head of

(10:38):
the editor, an editor for the Athens, Ohio Messenger, and
I think she lived in gall Palis and she got
wind of it and people started writing to her. And
then's when John Keel came down, I think, and then
they they hooked up together and started going out to

(10:58):
the T and T area where a lot of these
lights happened. And that happened after the kids were chased
out of the TNT area by the mothmen, and Linda
Scarborough and her husband and the malaise. They were all
four in a car and the TNT area is an

(11:21):
old munitions area where they built bombs or material to
go into the bombs during the Second World War and
then it was abandoned, but I can remember going into
the old building. It was just like an old warehouse
factory type of a thing. It was made out of bricks,

(11:44):
and the kids used to hang out down there all
the time. And then the Malays and Scarberries had their
encounter with the mothman, and every since then people started
going up there to look for it, which I did
too with a bunch of kids. We all did, and

(12:07):
round about Halloween we all went down there and saw
a bunch of lights and stuff, but that was the
following year after I had my encounter, So it was
like a hangout for the kids. Several acres. Who is it.

(12:30):
Mcclintok Wildlife Preserve is the owner of it, so they
allow hunting and things like that and fishing, and there
are old bunkers there that housed the remainder of the
explosives that were, you know, used to make those bombs.
They got most of it out of there, I think

(12:52):
maybe even during the seventies and eighties, and then I
think it was in the nineties one of them blew
up that they didn't that they didn't get out of there,
and I think about that a lot, and I think,
you know, we used to go down there every weekend
to look for the Mothman, and what if that thing
would have exploded with all us kids down there. So
it got so bad that the police would come down

(13:13):
and they made a roadblock so you couldn't get in.
But you know, kids, we knew back roads, we knew
how to get back in there, and so we did.
And then when things started really heating up and the
men in black were down there and the police just
didn't want kids down there. My dad got wind of it,

(13:33):
and he said, don't you go down to that area anymore.
I don't want you down there. There's he called them
g men that would I guess, you know. He said
they were down there and he didn't want them up
around the house, messing around, asking questions and just not
to get down there. Well, he didn't tell me to

(13:54):
not go looking for the moth man. He just said
don't go to the t inter area. So that's how
I had my encounter. Was my boyfriend and I went
in another direction, and at that time the mothman had
been seen all probably about a mile from where I
had my encounter prior to that.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
So, all right, what was? What was before we get
to your kind? I just wanted to get a little
bit more some back is what were the local authorities doing?
Were they trying to hide it from everybody? Or obviously
you said they're setting up barricue, isn't it? What were
they were they calling it? What were they seeing was
going on?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
They just said that it was people in airplanes and
there was one man I think he was a dentist,
and he would fly over. But us kids knew, you know,
we saw the plane, and we knew it was a plane,
but the authorities didn't want anybody down there. It's not
a real safe place. You can drive for about two

(14:58):
miles straight and then it comes to a tea the
road does, and then it goes off in all these
other different directions, and in between all those are ponds,
and the kids would get down there and they take
boats and rafts and swim and you know, drink and

(15:18):
and it just got so bad that it was almost
like an amusement park for teenagers. Well, I later on,
I had a sixty five miles tang and I'd go
down there and run the quarter mile with the boys.
You know. We hung out down there and really weren't

(15:39):
causing much trouble, but there's always a group of kids
that are drinking and causing There's there's houses all along
that area. I mean, it's like it's a rural area
that there were homes, and they were causing a lot
of excitement, and the people around the area were complaining,

(15:59):
and I think mostly they didn't know what this creature was.
They had interviewed the Scarberrys and the Malaysa and I think, well,
I do know there was a sheriff. His name was
George Johnson and he was from Mason, and I do

(16:19):
know that he believed him. And there was another one
that was down there, I think from point wasn't and
I think that they knew that there was something down
there going on. With the investigators down there looking around,
they were afraid it was going to escalate and someone

(16:40):
was going to get hurt, and they didn't know what
they were dealing with. And that building, like I said,
there was just there was equipment and old metal sheets
and different debris. It's cleaned up now and you can
go online and you can type in the TNT area

(17:00):
pictures you know, or photos of the sixties or prior
to that. I would say, you know, during World War One,
and you can see what it looked like during that era.
But when we were kids, it was just an old,
dilapidated bunch of buildings. And the kids that go in

(17:23):
there and it was just it was exciting, you know,
you didn't know what you were going to see, and
almost every time you went down there you saw something
like lights or you know, shadows or it was just
the excitement of the hunt. And so they got so
that they didn't watch you down there. The National Guard

(17:43):
has a building real close to where one of the
roads goes back into the Gint area, and I think
some of them were even down there maybe at that time.
And I think because it's all fenced off its government land,
there's more to what was on the outside. From what

(18:05):
I understand and from people that I have talked to
through the years. Now, I can't say that this is
a gospel truth, but there's supposedly tunnels from those plants
that made those that, you know, the explosives to the river,

(18:27):
because it's probably about m maybe a mile, maybe even
three quarters of a mile from the entrance into the
Tanti area to the river. So I heard that there
were tunnels that went from that plant to the river

(18:48):
and also down to the bridge that collapsed where they
would load stuff supposedly I don't know this but for fact,
but where they were supposedly load that stuff. Now, what
they were making down there, that's something else too. If
people want to do a little bit of research, it's

(19:08):
possibility they were doing something else other than really making
all this stuff. Who knows. And that was one of
the things that they said that maybe the creature, you know,
maybe they were changing animals into these creatures or something,
and something got away. Well what I saw it was

(19:32):
man like. What I saw. It wasn't from I can't
say it wasn't from this earth. It wasn't from I
think it wasn't from this dimension. I think it was
an interdimensional creature because I saw it come through the

(19:53):
ship that it was on. It came through the clouds,
through another dimension. So just because it was down there
doesn't mean that it was created there. I think that
was just a good hideout with those old buildings and everything.
And I think that the military knew more and the

(20:13):
police knew more about that area than they ever told.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Okay, was it always called the mothmant at the start?
Did they have a different name for it or is
that what people were seeing were seeing a big bird?
Or what were they saying that they was they calling it?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
In the newspapers when it first came out, it was
called the bird and people said, oh, it's a sand
hill crane. Well it wasn't a sand hill crane. And
then some people said, oh, you're just seeing a large
screech owl or a horned owl. There may have been

(20:52):
cranes down there. There may have been owls down there.
That Mothman was neither of those. I can say that
because of what I had firsthand account of what it was.
I saw it. I know it was real. I just
don't know exactly what it was or where it came from.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Okay, So let's dive into your your encounter here. Now.
If you guys never heard her encounter before, it's it's
definitely one to listen up to, and it's a good one.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
And so here she goes a good drink. Before I start,
I'll tell you that I didn't come forward with this
until it was about twenty twenty twenty, nineteen twenty twenty,

(21:44):
and I underwent regression hypnosis to find out about this
lost time that I had, So i'll tell you about
that too. But like I said, I grew up on
the Ohio River. Where I lived was just right over

(22:06):
the Penroy Mason Bridge in a town called Pumroy, and
on the other side was Mason, and I was born
in Mason, but I lived on the Ohio side right
by the river, and so I was familiar with both
sides of the river, had friends from both sides, and
that spring in April, I met a boy from Mason,

(22:30):
and we went out a couple of times and we
talked about them offman and he wanted to go down
to Tantiera and look for it. And I knew my
dad was very strict. If he found out that I
would be in trouble, and I guess in enough trouble
as it was, and so I told him that, you know,

(22:52):
let's go somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Well.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
A couple of weekends before we did that, he had
a horse and we used to ride the horse back
behind Mason in the farm area back there, and so
he said, let's go where we rode the horse and
he said, I've got an area where we can pull
right into farmland. I'm going to help this farmer next

(23:15):
month to make hay, and he said, I like to
Sherry where it is, and we can go and sit
there and just look at the sky and maybe we'll
see something. I was like, oh boy. So he picked
me up about a quarter after seven on April I
think it was like April eighteenth. Now my house set

(23:42):
about fifty yards from the farmery Mason Bridge almost under it.
So when he picked me up, we went up around
and across the bridge, turned left in Mason went about
half a mile, turned right and went back into the
country and it's nothing but gravel roads. I don't you know,
a lot of people probably have never been on a

(24:04):
gravel road, but West Virginia's full of gravel roads still
where there's no blacktop or anything. So we were back
out there for a waist, probably about at the most
three miles up and down, and we came to this
place and it was a nice place. So at the
time there was no fence there. Now they have put

(24:26):
a fence up. But we went into the pasture field
about seventy five yards probably, turned around, and we're faced out.
There wasn't a road there where we went in. We
came off the gravel road. The gravel road went on
over the hill. So we're sitting there a minute, and
over to our right was it was starting to get dark.

(24:49):
It was springtime and there weren't very many leaves on
the trees yet, and you know, it was really nice,
but there was a tree to line that was parallel
to the way we were sitting when we came in,
and on both sides, but on my right there was

(25:10):
a large tree tree line that went clear out to
the road. We came in. His grandma had gotten him
a quilt. He kept it in the back of the car,
so we got it, got out. He had fifty six
yearvy and we got out and we put the quilt
up on the car. The car was still warm because
we traveled, and I can remember laying back and leaning

(25:34):
against the wind shield of the car and he was
sitting here, and he sat up, and we were sitting there.
We weren't there maybe about ten minutes, and he was
looking over too right, and I said, what are you
looking at? He said, I'm looking at that star over there.
It looks strange. And by that time it was getting

(25:55):
fairly dark, and I said, well, yeah, us, because it
looked like what do you call those? Is it a
reticulated star. It's one that it'll flash and you you
look out and it'll be red, and then it'll be white,
and it'll be red and it'll be white. And I'm thinking,
oh that you know, that's maybe a planet because it

(26:18):
was dusk, but it would go clear down and then
it would come up, and then a go down and
then it come up and then suddenly and we both
turned to look at it, and it burst through burst
through the clouds, and I'm a child of the fifties,
so I'm thinking they're dropping the bomb. Bend over and

(26:44):
kiss your butt good bye, because we're out there in
the open, and you know, but when it came through,
it came through the clouds. There was this big orange ball.
Now when I say big, I mean about the size
the full moon if you hold your hand out, and

(27:04):
it would be about the size of a probably a
silver dollar, you know, a little bigger, but just like
a full moon. But it was beautiful and it sat
there for a minute and I'm like, what is that
because I don't know, And suddenly it started to move.
We're still sitting on the car, on the hood of

(27:24):
the car, and this is all happening within a stretch
of about twenty minutes, because it only took us a
couple of minutes to get over to where we were
from my house. We weren't there more than five or
ten minutes. And here comes this thing and we're looking
at it at a high level, but it's through the

(27:45):
trees because it's sort of up and behind the trees
kind of. And it was beautiful and it must have
been coming straight toward us for a while because it
kept getting bigger. It was perfectly round and orange, bright orange,
no sound whatsoever. It goes, it starts to travel, and

(28:11):
we're watching it, and it goes through the on the
other side of the trees, and it goes to the
road and it stops, and I'm like, my god, that
thing's closer than what I thought, you know, because there
it is, and it was only lake treetop high. My god,

(28:31):
and it sat on the road and we're looking at it,
and we're out there alone in the dark. During the time.
I'm off man, But the thing is, I think we
were more intrigued than we were frightened of it. And

(28:53):
suddenly it started moving comes parallel toward the car, and
I'm just looking at it. I'm amazed because by the
time it got to us, it was flat on the
bottom and domed on the top. And I'm thinking, huh,

(29:14):
you know, how did that happen like that? Unless it
came in this way this way, came down, you know.
And when it came I can still see that thing coming.
And I'm sitting on the car and it gets right
over top of the car. I turn, my boyfriend's gone.
He took off. I'm like okay, huh huh. And I'm like, well,

(29:47):
I've heard of your folks. This must be this must
be a flying saucer. I'd heard about rosswell, I had
always been in a in that kind of stuff, and
the thing that is so strange. I wasn't terrified. I
was more in awe of it. But I was more

(30:09):
mad at my boyfriend for leaving than you know, then
I was terrified of that thing. So I'm just sitting
there looking at it, and it's tree top high, I mean,
you know, thirty forty feet above me, and just sitting there,
and I look around and there's lights underneath of it

(30:30):
in the shape of a cross or a tea. There's
red lights, blue lights, and white lights. And it doesn't
make any noise, it doesn't put off any heat. The
only sound I could hear was sort of a sort
of a bushing sound or like a vacuum cleaner. But

(30:52):
the anything went through in my mind is nothing's going
to suck me up in there, And then of course
everything goes through your mind. I never see my mom
and my dad, my sister and my pats. You know,
I won't be able to graduate high school. It's like
a near death experience. You know, you have all this
stuff going through your head. It's like, what in the heck?

(31:14):
And I look around and I can't see the sky
because this thing is so big. So I lean forward
like this, and the next thing I know, I'm sliding
off the car, onto the floor, onto the ground. Okay,
here's where it gets weird. I had about anywhere between

(31:36):
half an hour to forty five minutes a missing time.
The next thing I know, I'm in the car and
I'm just I don't understand. You know, it's there's light everywhere.
There's light everywhere, and the thing's still up there. And
I turn to my boyfriend, sitting just in a stupor

(31:57):
and he's leaning against the well and I'm like, what
is that and he goes, I don't know, and it
kind of comes out of it. He goes, we got
to get out of here. He hadn't even started the car,
and I can still see him trying to get that
car started. And as he was reaching down and starting

(32:20):
the car, I see something up at the front left
bump or the car, and it's a creature and it's
standing there and I'm like, look at it, and he goes,
I see it at the UFO and I go, no,
look at that, and I couldn't get it out, and

(32:40):
it jumped and it flew over the top of the
hood of the car into the trees. And forward we go.
And as we're going, the thing's going too. We get
out to the gravel road. It goes straight over the
hill towards the river and we make the left. I'm

(33:02):
there's no seat belts back then I'm hanging out of
my side of the car, of the passenger side, and
I'm almost sitting in the window because i want to
see that that creature, that bird, that whatever that is.
And I see it and it had flown up into
the trees. There was no leaves on the trees, and

(33:24):
because of all the light from everything, I could see
it silhouette and it stood up and it turned around
and I'm like, oh god, and I'm like, did you
see that? Did you see it? And he's so mad
at me. He's like, I'm trying to drive, I saw it.
At you up? Oh, And he's fish tailing down the
road and you know, we're flopping around in the car

(33:45):
and it's like we almost lost it. We almost went
over the hill and the gravel. We're flying everywhere, and
I can still hear it, I can still feel it,
I can still see it. We get down to the
bottom of the hill and I said stop, stop, stop,
and he stopped a minute and he said, what do
you want. I said, I want you to go back.
Things up there sitting in the tree. I want you
to go back. I want you to see it. It's like,

(34:08):
I'm not going back up there. It's like please. I
was begging to go because I didn't want to be
the only one to see it. And he said, we'll
get down here and we'll pull in. There was an
old coal mine, a strip mine, and the kids used
to it was like a lover's lane. Ki kids used
to park down there, and there's still a few old,

(34:30):
broken down buildings and things. And we pulled in there.
He said, we'll sit here and we'll get our bearings
and then I'm going to take you home. I'm like,
but I want to go back up there. And we
argued a little bit about it, and then I thought, well,
you know whatever. So we get ourselves settled down and

(34:50):
try to try to make sense of what we had seen.
And I look at my watch and it's eight thirty.
I'm like, wait a minute, you know we got there.
We left it a quarter after seven. We got over there,
and it was wasn't even quite seven thirty yet, I

(35:13):
don't think we were there ten minutes the most. And
here came the thing. What happened to that? What happened
to all that half an hour to forty five minutes
a time? And he didn't want to talk about it.
I don't know, he said, I don't know. You looked
wrong at the clock, and I said, you picked me
up at seven fifteen. People say, how do you remember that? Well,

(35:36):
it's like when you're in high school and you have
to remember, you know, like four score and seven years ago,
our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation.
You know, you remember things that you you have to
or that you want to, and there's things in your
memory that you can't You just you know it's there,

(35:57):
but you can't get it out. So when we pulled in,
he turns around and the road goes where we came in,
down over the hill, and we are parallel with that road.
We aren't faced out, we're paralleled, but we're about thirty
yards in. I said, is this supposed to be a

(36:19):
full moon. He said, no, I don't think so. And
I said, something's coming up over that hill. And on
the rise where we had come down and it went
down round and up and down, there was a light
and it was coming up over the hill up over
that road. I said, my god, they're coming to get us.

(36:45):
That's that creature. And he said, I don't know what
it is. It's car lights. And I said, no, no,
And this here come this fall, this big orb about
the size of a small car. And it was traveling
pretty slow, but it was driven or it was alive.

(37:07):
It could maneuver. It was following the road. The road
was like a snake and that thing was about three
or four feet above the road and it was just
moving down the road round, white blue light, no noise there.
We set the windows down and it gets even with

(37:31):
the car and it stopped. If I cussed back in,
I would have been said some choice work. And it
just stopped and it sat there and we're like, here
we go again. And I can remember my boyfriend wouldn't
look at it, and I said, it's coming. And it

(37:56):
started coming down the road that we came in to
the the coal mine, and it came clear up to
his side of the car, like it was looking in
the window, you know, there was this ball. We both
just turned and looked at it. And he said, what

(38:17):
is that? And I said, I don't know. And I said,
do you see anything in it? Like people or windows?
And he said no, I don't know how long it'sat there,
at least five minutes, and we're just staring at it.
Didn't hurt your eyes to look into it. The thing

(38:38):
I find strange is neither one of us were scared,
not really, you know, clawing at each other and trying
to get out of there. It just went around the
front of the car, and it stopped right at the
hood of the car, right off the bumper. Whereas when
you looked at it, you could see the whole thing

(38:58):
was far enough away that you could see the whole thing,
and it was beautiful. And I said, that thing looks
like it's alive. And I say, I it makes me
feel strange. He goes, I know. And about that time,
it just went straight up and over the car, and

(39:21):
it filled our car with bluish white light. And we're
just sitting there and he opened his door and I
opened my door and we both ran around the back
of the car and looked and there was nothing and
there was no noise, just darkness and stars. So said,

(39:43):
I'm going to take you home. That okay, What am
I supposed to do? Am I supposed to tell my
parents where we were what we were doing? And he said,
I don't know. So we get out to Mason. We
turned left, we get down to the Primary Mason Bridge.
We started across the bridge. I'm like, I feel funny,

(40:03):
because I do too. He said, how do you feel?
I said, I feel like somebody got in my brain,
swept it out and put something else in. He said,
that's that's exactly how I feel now. There weren't computers
back then. Now I would say something was uploaded into

(40:26):
my mind or you know, they had they had control
of us somehow. So anyway, we go across the bridge
and we get almost to the end and he says,
you where do you want to go now? And I said,
let's drive up to Pomeroy and go over to the
river and look and see if we can see anything

(40:48):
across the river to Maston where we just came from.
So he said, okay, So we go up there and
we sit and we see a couple of lights going
back and forth over there, back and forth, but you know,
I don't know what it was. And at that point,
I just was ready to go home, so I said,
let's just go home. Just take me home. So it
must have been probably a little after nine, and it

(41:14):
takes about two minutes to get to my house from there.
So we go home and we pull up the driveway
and my mom and dad had a house. It was
real close to the river. There was a little road
in front that went under the bridge. So anyway, Uh,
he goes up the road and pulls into my driveway

(41:35):
and my mom and dad are sitting on the porch.
And my dad gets up and starts to run the car.
And I'm thinking, how do you know where we were?
You know, I'm in trouble. Why, I mean, why am I?
What am I going to do? I'm in trouble. So uh,
he runs up to the car, he said, get out
of the car. Youah the car, And I said, what's
going on? He said, your mom and I were sitting

(41:57):
here on the porch. Directly across the river is a
high school called Wahama High School. On the left of
that high school or the hills we were in. He said,
just a few minutes ago, this big white ball alight
came up over that hill, came up over the high school,

(42:22):
turned left and went over the bridge, the one we
had just come across, and went north following the river.
He said, it almost hit the bridge, it was so low.
The phone was ringing inside we had landline, and it
was my grandma. She lived in Upper Pomeroy, way upon

(42:44):
the hills up there, and my mom came out, she
said that was her mother. She said, Grandma said, go
out in the yard over by the river and look
up the river. There's at least one, maybe two of
these balls of light coming your way. Now that was

(43:06):
three generations seeing these creatures, seeing these things. I knew
there was something else that had happened. I can tell
you if you would like, I can. I'll skip a
little forward a little bit until and tell you that

(43:31):
that was in the newspaper about all these balls of
light coming. That next day, it was on the radio,
and if they wanted people to call in. I wanted
to call in. My dad didn't want me to, so
I didn't. I walked around with that on my mind

(43:54):
all the rest of that school year, which was just
April in May, and then all that summer, I some
weird things happened to me that I'll tell you in
a minute, but I wanted to tell you guys that
in twenty nineteen, I it affected me, so I had

(44:21):
to have some therapy. I hadn't shared with hardly anybody
because from when that happened to me, I had gotten
married and you know, lived my life. But I still
had all this in the back of my mind because
I knew there was more. I knew there was more.
I had dreams I had, you know, I'd wake up

(44:46):
from these dreams. So I started going to therapy, and
I felt that there was I was on the verge
of finding out about that missed time. So I got
a computer and I did some searching, and I came
to the Round Town UFO Society out of Circleville, Ohio,

(45:09):
and I got hold of someone up there and they said,
come up and tell us your story. You'll be among friends.
There are other people that had such experiences. And I'm like,
really and there, I, oh, yeah, come up, and you know,
tell us what you know. So I went up and

(45:29):
I went to a couple of meetings and Pete Hardinger
was the president. He said, I have a friend who
is a licensed hypnotherapist. She can do regression therapy. Would
you like to do it? And I said yeah, but
you know I can't afford that. He said, I will
pay for it. She's reputable and I think she can

(45:53):
help you. I'm like, you know what I got to lose?
So I went up and I thought. I told her,
I said, you won't be able to hypnotize me. And
she said, well, we'll just do what we can do
if you remember anything, and I said, I always tried
to be into control because since that happened to me,

(46:16):
she had heard my story. And I said, since that
happened to me, I want to always be in control
of my life. I am real careful about things like that.
She said, you can trust me, and if I feel
like there's something that you don't want to know or
you can't know, I'll help you get through it. So

(46:38):
I thought, what have I got to lose? So she
just talked to me for half an hour or so,
and I got me relaxed and played music and you
just a really sweet woman. And all the time I
didn't even think about was I being regressed. I just

(47:02):
felt really relaxed, and I closed my eyes and found
myself going back to that time. And she told me.
She said, now, pick up wherever you want, tell me
what you see. I said, it's beautiful, beautiful evening, and
boyfriend's picking me up. And I told her what I

(47:24):
had on and what he had on. And before I
did all this, I told her, I said, please, if
it's possible, I want to remember what I tell you.
But they recorded it anyway, but she said, yeah, you will,
I'll make sure of it. She took me to the
time where I was seeing the first UFO come bursting

(47:46):
through the clouds and up into me. And I turned
and my boyfriend's gone, and I hesitate, and she said,
can you go any further? And I said, started to cry.
She said, just take your time and tell me what
you see. And I said, I slipped off the car.

(48:08):
I said, when he got up, that grilt shifted and
I burnt my leg on the grill of the car.
I can't remember how odt it was. I could feel it,
and I landed on the ground onto a pair of feet.
She said, whose feet wasn't And I said, I don't know.

(48:32):
I'm sitting on somebody's feet, and she said, look up
and see. Tell me what you see. So I look
up and I can see these legs like a man,
but the feet were so large, and I didn't want
to look up, but I did, and I looked up

(48:53):
and I saw this creature and it had long arms
and long fingers. I can remember the nails on that thing.
They just looked like hooks almost, and it was dark
in the front. People said, did you see its face?

(49:13):
And I'm like, not really, because it didn't have much
of a neck. And they were like, did it have feathers?
And I said, what I felt was skin like that
of a lizard. And I said it had wings. It

(49:34):
had these big, huge wings, but it kept them back
and down. And she said what happened next? And I said,
I'm looking for my boyfriend. I can't find him, and
I can't scream, I can't do anything. And it picked
me up and it carried me over to the car.

(49:58):
It had me in one arm, and I can remember
it was felt cold against me. It didn't feel like
like a pet, a dog, or a person. But I
didn't feel any animosity. I didn't feel any evil, anything evil.

(50:20):
It picked me up, and it took me over to
the car, and I can remember it somehow got the
car door up and it was a jar, I think,
and my boyfriend sitting in the car, leaning over the
car and leaning over the steering wheel like this, and
it reaches in there and it pulls him out, and

(50:43):
it gently puts me in and I crawl across the
seat and then he gets in. And when the car
door buying shut is when I wake up, and I think,
how'd I get in the car? How'd I get in
the car? At that time, I was hysterical. So she

(51:03):
brings me out of it, and I said, I just
I don't want to say. I don't want to say.
And she said, you had quite the experience. And I said,
I saw the creature standing at the end of the car,
and it jumped and it flew. I had no idea,

(51:25):
but it made sense of why I was such a
nervous individual after that, because I harbored all that for
all those years. And she said, after I got calmed down,
she brought me back and I woke up, and she said,
I'd like for you to come back, because she said,

(51:47):
you still have some as the time. And I said,
I just can't do it right now?

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Wow? Oh yeah, where do you go from that speech?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
That's part of it?

Speaker 4 (52:06):
All right? I got I got a couple of questions.
Your boyfriend, did you stay in touch with him? Did
he ever tell his side of the story? Do you
think that he was taken?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
When you can excuse me, I'm too when he said that,
I'll tell you why we dated. For see, we dated
for a year and just almost a year and a

(52:41):
half later, we got married right out of school. I
graduated when I was seventeen and in October I turned eighteen.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
And take your time if you need a sipple water,
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
It gets me kind of go outa hell of a
story to relive it. I could just I couldn't even imagine.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
So anyway, we we we got married, you know, too young,
and I pressed him on it, and I think that's
one of the things that it broke us up because
we were only married for like three months, and it

(53:26):
bothered me because he would never talk about it. And
I used to, you know, try to get him to
talk about it, and then he got into some stuff
that he shouldn't have and having some behavior of somebody
that had severe PTSD and AH become I don't want

(53:52):
to talk about him, but our marriage broke up, and
then he was married at twice after that, and then
he moved somewhere up in Ohio, and then he had
problems with his heart, and I haven't talked to him now.

(54:13):
I had gone to school with his sister in law,
graduated with her, and we're still friends. I don't see
her very often, but when I do, I ask about him,
and you know, I think he's doing okay, but I
don't think. I don't think he was ever right after that?
How could you be?

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Yeah? But then how did you tuck it away? Though
you say you tucked it away for all those how
did you tuck that away? How did you blast that?
I was.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Really really shy in school, and I was artistic, so
I think drawing and painting when I could, I read

(55:10):
a lot, I did. I was into horses. I just
buried myself in things that I was interested in. But
it it just there was always that knowing and you know,
like there was something more, and it's still there. There's

(55:32):
something more. I know there is, but I'm not sure
if I ever want to know. At my age, I
have heart attack, but it still affects me. I still
every now and then all get triggered. But I think

(55:52):
I'm doing fairly well because I have learned to learn
from things that have happened to me, and in this experience,
I've learned that it could have hurt me if it
wanted to. They could have taken us if they wanted to,

(56:14):
because we were out there and there's nobody else out there.
You know, maybe it did for a while. I don't know,
but I think that when I felt that something was
happening to my mind, I think that I always had
these abilities from the time I was young, that it

(56:36):
like it turned the switch. But at first that was
a curse because my senior year in high school, I
kept my mouth shut mostly about it. But I knew
things and I would say things, and I learned I
had to keep my mouth shut. And we would have

(56:56):
assemblies in high school where oh two schools had come
together and we'd all get together. I had trouble when
I was around a lot of people because I would
hear their thoughts. I would mostly feel the anxiety. And
when you've got three or four hundred kids in their

(57:19):
teens in one great big gymnasium. That's overload. I can
remember putting my head down in my lap until I
was able enough to get up and walk out of
the assembly because of the overload. I thought everybody experienced

(57:41):
that because I really didn't have anybody to talk to
until later in life after I had my kids and
I would had a good relationship with my mother and
I would talk to her to find out that she
had abilities to and my great grandma, her dad's mother,

(58:08):
she lived into her nineties and her name was Emma's
Shoemaker Casto. Now in the twenty seventeen, I started really
getting into the family genealogy and I found out the
Shoemaker's and her direct background is Sylvia Shoemaker Brown. And

(58:40):
there are other people that have abilities on that Shoemaker side.
They all came from I laughed, they came from France,
like the Knees, but you know. And then my dad's side,

(59:00):
his mother had abilities. She was very empathic. She knew things.
She knew when she was going to pass away, she
told us. And then my grandpa, the one on the
Shoemaker's side, he came to me in a dream and

(59:22):
told me that he was passing over and that he
loved me. And I got up that morning told my
mom and she got a call soon after that that
he had passed. I've seen spirits. I've always been like
a magnet to all kinds of things. I went to

(59:45):
Bemany with my daughter and uh, but we were with
a thing called Dolphin Quest and in that you go
in a group of you get together and you work
on your spirituality and your emotional health and your physical health,
and you eat right for a week and you go

(01:00:05):
out on a catamaran and swim with the dolphins. It
was wonderful, but then you also learn to develop your abilities.
And there I was a group of people that I'm
at that and I read all these people and they
were standing in line for me to tell them stuff.

(01:00:26):
It's like bi rhythms, and sometimes I'm more able to
than others, and I think it's in my state of
if I'm in a real calm state, then you know
I have that ability comes forward that I know things,
and then I try to use that now to help people.
That's how I deal with what I've gone through.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
I've always heard that the anxiety, when you have these
abilities of anxiety is a big feeling. It's that you
always feel, you always feel others anxiety. And that's what
most people can't handle when they have that ability, because
they're feeling all this anxiousness all the time, and they
don't realize that it's not them, it's the other people
that's around them. That's that must be a tough bridge

(01:01:10):
to cross.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
It's hard to go to like funerals or weddings, even
some church services have I've had to get up and
go out. I can. I can feel something happening, and
I can turn around and I can I can pretty

(01:01:31):
much tell you you know what's going through. Somebody said
what they're feeling. I'll be at the grocery store or
like Walmart, and my daughter used to get embarrassed, and
she doesn't anymore. She just goes. I'll stand there, I'll
get real quiet, I'll get a look I guess on
my face, and she'll say, go do your thing. Mom.

(01:01:52):
I'm going over in the clothes. And I have told
people your mother's just passed. This one girl I told her,
I said, your mom just passed, And I said, I
feel that she wants you to know that she's fine.
And you came on this vacation because you thought about

(01:02:14):
not coming, but you came anyway. And I told her
what her name was, and I told her what her
grandma's name was, and I told her where they lived.
And she said, how do you know that stuff? And
I said, well, it used to bother me. I used
to think it was evil, but I found out that

(01:02:36):
there's a it's biblical. There's a gift of discernment and prophecy.
And I think that you know, I have that abildea.
I'm like a gon do it from God. He gives
me things and tells me things. And I have prayed
about it because I'm a born again Christian and that's

(01:02:57):
very important to me, and I prayed about it that
please don't tell me anything to share with anybody if
it's something bad, because I don't think I can handle it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Well, everybody, we're going to open up the questions. We're
already over the hour, almost hour, fifteen minutes. That was
That was great. I have one more question before we
go to the to the chat room. And for a question.
So remember I've started a few that I've seen gone
by again. I have that bad eye, so don't forget
if I missed you I'll try and find it, but

(01:03:29):
all in cap letters and we'll get the question because
Linda wanted that important part. It's important to be able
to ask. So my last question is, so you went
through all your experience and all the stuff that happened
in those thirteen months, and finally the bridge. Why why
do you think that? Why? What was the what was
the what was the exclamation point at the bridge?

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Why was what? What was your your theory on the
whole reason why they were there?

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I think, in my opinion that Mothman, wherever he is,
is like I wouldn't call him a banshee, and he's
kind of like the opposite of a harbinger doom. I
think he was there to warn people that something was

(01:04:16):
going to happen. He showed up down there at a
time when I think he was trying to draw people
to him and maybe away from downtown Point Pleasant. Most
of the people that I have talked to, a good
dead of them, not all of them, but a good

(01:04:36):
bit of them. If they did a little research, they
might find, such as me, are related to Chief Cornstalk.
And if anybody knows about the history of Point Pleasant
and Chief Cornstock and his son went to try to
get a treaty with the correct me if I'm wrong,

(01:05:01):
the English in doing so. While they were there, some
of the military men or militia men were killed, and
so the group of people that were there outside of
where he was there to sign some treaties came in
and rushed a building and killed Chief Cornstalk and his

(01:05:22):
son and a couple other people, and supposedly he put
a curse on the land, but I don't know about
the curse. But I do think that I think that
he has something to do with everything that's happened down there,
and as far as Mothman. Maybe maybe he just appears

(01:05:47):
to us how something that we think he might look like.
Maybe he's actually Chief Cornstalk or one of his men
or But anyway, I found it very strange that so
many of us were related to him that had seen
them all man, and I just think he was there too.

(01:06:13):
He just kind of got the blame for it because
he was gone pretty much for a long time after
the bridge collapsed, and that was such a horrible time.
It could have been a lot worse. It was bad enough.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Okay, Well, I just want to say thank you for sharing.
I know pregame. You told me that, you know, it's
not an easy one to come out with it, and
after hearing it live for the first time, I can
understand why. And thank you so much for You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
It's hard to believe, but it's true.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Oh no, I have no doubt in my mind. I've
when you told me the colors of the craft's lights too,
because my wife and I have experienced the same color
lights of the craft over our heads. So just and
the guy in the chat room the other night about
I saw a triangle pack but like panels on it.
And I saw the Seal of Abraham the other day,

(01:07:12):
and I'm like, oh my god, that's the top of
the ship. So I drew it all out and everything,
and then I flipped the ship over what I saw
that night, and there's the Star of David right on
the ship with the red and the white and the
blue lights were the red and the blue lights on
the back and the whites on the front. By any chance,
it was kind.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Of in a like a tea. I can't remember now.
I think I drew it in my book. It may
not have been exactly like what I saw, but I
can remember those lights.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Pretty wild? Yeah, not wild yep. So okay, so we're
going to the chat room now for some questions. Kim
Kincaid asks to go, Linda, you went back? Did you go?
You went back after your encounter? Have you gone back
to the same Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
And Jason, Jason Kinsey from Searching for Sasquatch got hold
of me. He had heard my encounter and he for
a couple of years he'd been wanting to come and
and interview me and do a documentary, and finally he
was able to come, and he stayed here and we

(01:08:25):
went to the exact spot where I had my encounter.
I had only been there once before with my kids,
and this time we went back and he filmed it
and it will come out in the Searching for Sasquatch
series on is it Fubo or YouTube? And next fall

(01:08:46):
probably and it'll be Searching for Mothman.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
We went to the tanty area and all around with Jason,
and then we went back in the dark to the
area down over the hill from where I had my encounter,
and uh, we had a spirit box and we were
back in the woods and it was it just kept saying,

(01:09:12):
let's see, I can't remember the name now, But anyway,
it was Chief Cornstalk's son, the name that kept saying,
and and you know that was that found that real interesting.

(01:09:33):
I said, I don't know even of that name. And
I'm like, oh no, that's who that is. And it
just kept saying, I'm right behind you, I'm with you,
I'm right behind you. It's like, okay, so that was fun, kay.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Okay. Next question comes from Tennessee, Kentucky. Bigfoot. He said,
lind to see the eye colors of the wing bean
that helped her. Did she even think it may have
been mothman?

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
No, I didn't see it, but I was pretty sure
it was small man because of the shape the collar,
the wings, the arms and the legs of a man.
I know that Fage de Witt Laporte. She's she's pretty awesome.

(01:10:24):
She's the one that was with her brother down there
in the TND area and it was running beside the
car and she said, I can remember seeing them big
red eyes, and I said I didn't. I didn't look
up far enough to see the eyes. I wish I
had her, but now, no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
You felt the skin on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Your skin skin contact?

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Yeah, okay, so blue eyed or the blue eyed Northern
asks have you had medical issues, possibly due to your experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
I had some marks on my right above my navel
and it was like a scar. And then I had
a couple on my feet. I've got and see. I
didn't know at the time what that was, but I
can only assume that maybe, but I have these. I

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have one on my knee and one in the under
my index finger. There is like a little round thing
about like a BB you know what a BB from
a BB gun is And it's metal. I tried last year.
I tried to dig it out and I couldn't. It

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just kept moving around in there. So it's still there.
So whether that's an implant, probably not, but you know,
And then that spot on my navel when which I
didn't even really want to think about that. You know
how they say they harvest eggs and things. Ah, I

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don't even want to think about anything like that. That
that's too much. And then I was sick. Let's see,
not too long after that happened, I had like monucleus symptoms.

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I just was really really tired. And I have heard
that that's kind of like radiation poisoning that can make
you feel that way. I don't know, it's just and
then my glands were swollen. That was the only things
that I had. Oh, that could have happened anyway, So
it's just all I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
Okay. Bob hit three asks what is your description of
how it looked compared to the common description. I guess
the same.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
But well, if you're all familiar with what the statue
looks like down there, that's not that's it didn't have
a six pack. I draw, I paint, and I have
a couple of paintings that I have seen that look

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like it. The thing that I saw didn't have any feathers,
but then again I didn't touch its wings, so maybe
it had feathers. I don't know. I didn't really. I
was in such a stupor. All I could feel was
that leathery skin, and I can remember how to hold
of like an arm. And as far as looking like

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the things, it's more like a man with wings. But
it was then so, and it was tall. That's one
thing that I you know, a thing was eight eight
feet tall. Probably it was tall. It was big so

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and when it flew, it jumped and it put its
wings back against itself. And went up in the air
like like it had a jetpack, but it didn't, you know,
just like Superman.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Did you ever see it go into the ball a
light or anything like that? Did you ever see that
yeoha light?

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
No. I just assumed it was with that because it
wasn't there, and then then it was and it was
right directly underneath of that craft. So I just assumed
that it was with it or had something to do
with it. But as far as I'm concerned, that was

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from what I hear now, that was coming through another
dimension when the you know, it parted, and so I
think that's how I formed my opinion. These are interdimensional creatures, right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
I think those balls of light are an energy type
of source. I think they're alive that awakens ancient technology,
ancient beings that are still on this Earth. And when
they come around and they get that frequency or that
signal or whatever it is or awakens these things, and
I think that's what happens. Again, that's just my opinion.

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And I don't know, but I get the willies just
talking about my hair stickingstruck.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
I agree because I thought that it felt like it
was alive, and you know, he kind of felt that
way too, but in ways said that's not possible. Well,
nowadays that you hear that all the time, people say
that some of those orbs are alive, and even Bigfoot.
You know, I have those orbs around here, and it's

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all a lot of us. Assuming there's just so much
we don't know. You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
Okay, here we go. Next question. H Maharaschelle dash d
four h as t KB is this your favorite cryptid
for me?

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Uh? I like Bigfoot Mothman. It's frightening, But I think
that Bigfoot are a people. They just are more advanced
than what we are, and they have more abilities in

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what we do. And I'm inclined to believe too that
they have either the ability to come and go through
another dimension or they have the ability to change themselves
in the dimension that they're in. But I think they
are just another creature like we are, So I'm more inclined.
If I have to pick one, it would be Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Okay, Well a or the nasks? Do you believe there
is a message you are to pass on?

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Oh? A lot of that you just I think that
it made me. It opened my eyes to be more empathic,
have empathy for people not to be so quick to judge.
But I think I've developed that. I've gotten order too.

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But it like I said, I think that the messages
they're here, they've been here a long time. They're just
a creature like we are on this earth. That there's
so much that we don't know about. And I think
we can learn from the way that they all live
so close to nature, especially Bigfoot. If they're if they're

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out there, and I believe they are, Look how they've
survived and how they've lived without without the help of
technologies that we have.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
You do you believe cryptids are all one and the same?
Do you think they're all like they come from the
same cloth.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
I think we all do. We're just different, different slices
of the pie. I think that Bigfoot and moth men
and you know, elementals, and I never used to believe
in that kind of stuff, But more my eyes are
open and I've seen so much that I think we're

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all just like rungs in the wheel or pieces of pie.
We're all out of the same thing. I believe God.
I believe in God. I believe that we're all His
creation and creatures, and maybe some are bad and some
are good. But you know, I think we need to
live and let live. But like I said, I think

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we all we need to learn from each other in
the respect that we all can live closer to nature,
because that's that's where you'll find peace.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
I have to agree with you. And then I never
believed in any of this stuff either until about eleven
years ago and all changed.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Yeah, it's about we're not going around about it. It
was twenty seventeen, sixteen seventeen on it. I just had
to find out.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
So Steve wallfaster, Miss Linda, can you show us a
picture that you drew of it? Or is there a
picture you drew of it? Oh? You got one close by?
All right there?

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Yeah in my book.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Now all right, I'm going to try and blow it
up there again to see if I can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
There we go, that's me. I do this immediately after
I was regressed, and I took some paper with me
just in case, and I've it looks like a bigfoot,
but then uh, its wings were down and this I

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have had people say, uh, they were down there and
they saw it and they drew it and it looked
just like that. So but I've got all this stuff
in my book. This is this is the big first

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craft coming through. I drew all these real fast. I'm
a better artist than this that I had to take
this step to the ground town. They told me that
morning they wanted me to bring some pictures or drawings.
So I sat down in about an hour jewel of
stuff to take up there and show them. And so

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I've got all that in my book and I've got
a map and it's on Amazon. If you you're interested
in the book, or if you come to where I'm
speaking or anything that, or get hold of me, I
can dink you signed poppy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Okay, well, Steve says, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
All right, Well, we're we're about at the end of
the show. We're gonna have to have you back and
get into the bigfoot thing next. Uh, that's too bad.
I've got some pretty cool structures and stuff like that,
some stories, and we're definitely going to have to have
you back.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
I'd love to thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
Let me check and see if there's someone some more questions.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
I have.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
I have another. I have a question, did anybody else
see the same creature that you have? Have you learned
over the years that someone else did the same thing
and described it the same way you did.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Yes, I don't don't know if I should mention the name,
but he is a investigator, and i'll tell you Roun Lanham,
and he lives in West Virginia with his wife. And
they were driving out back of West Virginia and I

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don't know exactly where, just twenty twenty two or twenty three,
and in the daylight, and they were going down road
and back in the hills, you know, and they thought
that was a bear in the middle of the road.
And they stopped quite a ways back and they looked,
and the thing stood up and put his wings up,

(01:22:41):
and up it went. And I will plug Wild and
Weird West Virginia Radio and Ron Lanham and Joe Purdue
have that on Thursday nights from eight until about ten. Uh.
They have all kinds of good stuff right now. There

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that AI AI Atlas three let's see three three eye
outlets AI three I Atlas there. They've been reporting on
that and uh, they go out investigating. They've got a
new show coming out. But you can find Wild and
Weird Radio on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
Okay, yeah, I think that that three that that thing
that's coming. I think that's part of that ancient power.
I think that's it's going to turn on some ancient
secrets that are here on Earth and start things up
that haven't been started in a long time. Just what
I think. I don't know. I should be just an
asoid coming through to I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
But it's very curious, that's for sure. And we'll know
within the next couple of days, specially starts coming down
this way. I'm just going to go back out there
where I had my counter and sit.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Must have. It must have been hell for all the
bootleggers back then, with all the stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
And grave diggers down in clintenh And, West Virginia. I
think that was where the Mothman was first sighted. Uh,
these guys were digging a grave and they flew over. Oh.
I thank everybody for coming on and hearing me. Rant.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
It was awesome. Everybody loved that. Everybody kept the cool
in the chat room has always had some great questions
and yeah, so thank you so much. So I'm gonna
put you back and I'm going to say good night
to everybody, and then I'll be right back and say
good night to you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
And I.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Miss Linda, all right, all right, and right? What to guest?
What a guest? What an interaction? Could you just imagine
if you live that? Oh my goodness, gracious, I don't know.

(01:25:07):
Uh yeah, I'm speechless. And it takes a lot for
people to relive this, it does, and to tell to
tell people, you know, to relive it and relieve something
like that, you know, it takes a lot. So again,
I thank her so much for taking the time out
of her schedule just to share with us. And it
helps awareness around with everybody. So don't forget if you

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want to be the guest host on a show here
on Real American Monsters, let's go to Real American Monsters
at gmail dot com and leave a little story and
I will pick my favorite story and we'll get you
on the show. Maybe even have you line up the guests,
your guest of your choice. How's that that'd be even better.

(01:25:52):
The documentary for the Winston wild Man is still going on.
We are going to Larry's place on where we captured
the vocals couple of weeks ago, to sit out in
the dark again on Saturday night and fill our last
eyewitness report and then we will be busy editing and
getting that in on the road. So we are close.
We're getting closer and closer each week. Takes a lot

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of work to do these things, and we're taking it
as it comes and we're excited. So that's about all
I got. So next week I am off. I'll tell
you who we got coming. I'm on call for work.
And then the following week, let me look at my
calendar because I'm old and I don't remember nothing anymore.

(01:26:38):
We have so next week, and oh we have we
have Boyd omer.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Back and.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Dennis. Boyd and Dennis I can't remember Dennis is right
off the top of my but it's going to be
a good episode. They just had some expeditions out in
Colorado this year and New Mexico and they're going to
be here to share all their findings and that's going
to be a good one too, So you guys don't
want to miss that. So that's all I got. Thank
you all for being kind in the chat room. And

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just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not
watching you. As my friend Larry says, get the Woods people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Out of the hole.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
Best asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Could be.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Jad, is this something that I have done?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
You think that was gone, Come stre I cant so

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myself gray. So once in a wild.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
I get tired of talking.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
I'm good on a smile and let my altar e go.
Wherever go, the stays will show.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
The sun can be streams playing, so