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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Squatching Holler.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
In the midst where the trees lean loom.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Squatching Hollers gotta tail.
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The show wisps.
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Creep like a creature spain out every shadows god a
secret to grow. Monsters rise Where the stories are too
Squatching Hollow, where.
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The legends are born?
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Are they?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Are they gone?
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Who can say?
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In the hollow of the true just sift suah, huge
footprints faed where the creek runs through a lantern sways.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Let the search beak in rustling leaves.
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But there's no one near. Is it the wind or
the beast?
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You fear? Everyhere goes a question, Every.
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Russell's a clue.
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Spotching hollis got its eye on you. Monsters Where the
stories are torn? Swatching Hollow, where the legends are born?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Are they?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Are they gone?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Who can say?
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They are?
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Not say?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
And now with your Squatching Holler hosts Roger Williams, Amanda Stowers,
and Ashley Raymonds. Remember this podcast can be downloaded everywhere
great podcasts are found. And now the show.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Let's try this again.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Hello, Hello, can you hear me now?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yes, hear me now. I always look up and see
that red and I'm like, oh, I've got the mic
turned off. How's it going everybody in chat? And Amanda,
I am doing good.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah, the chat is already rolling. We just lit live
and we already got forty five people in here. So yeah,
I'll try to keep Roger focused tonight. Wish me luck.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So Ashley's not with us tonight, she has some things
she had to take care of. Right off the bat.
You know, we're still at Gregg, still in the hospital.
He's doing better when you send prayers for him. And
then Grizzly Chris also one of our buddies. Uh, he
has you know, several shows he's he's had a heart attack. Also,
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just any prayers would be appreciated for him, so absolutely. Yeah.
So you know this, we all do this stuff, and
and some of us get into it deeper than others.
But when it comes down to it, you know, family
and health and everything is more important. But but yeah, y'all,
thank y'all for tuning in. I've been looking forward to
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this since our last interview with mister Davis. And right
at the end he said something about talking about giants.
I'm like, oh yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
We were just barely getting started last time. I'm very
excited to Yeah, this evening.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
And y'all we're gonna we're gonna do the We're gonna
do the trivia right quick. Uh, just we we like
doing that and has something to do with where our
guests live the area or whatever, and let's let's do
this cheesy stuff. All right, here's the question for Amanda.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Alrighty, so tonight's trivia. What Mississippi River legend describes a
massive snakelike creature said to lurk in the Yazoo River
near Vicksburg, Mississippi.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Thanks thanks AI for messing that up.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
I'll say that a type.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Anybody MK probably knows the answer is the Yazoo Yazoo
River Monster, sometimes called the Vicksburg Serpent. There's all kinds
of stuff out there that we don't.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
There's so much out there, it's crazy, Like the more
I keep going in, there's like the more that keeps
popping up that I've never heard of. And it's just
it's so awesome that, you know, every place seems to
have something. So there's definitely more to heaven and Earth
and what we've been told, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, And you know we have history, hidden history, forgotten history,
history that's been swept under the rug. And when you start,
I'm gonna go through this quickly. When you start digging
into this subject, you find old newspaper clippings of twelve
and fifteen and twenty foot giants and there's one Tennessee
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twenty feet in length the skeleton. This is in Williamson County,
just one county north for me. And we have, you know,
a quote from Abraham Lincoln, the eyes of the eyes
of that species of extinct giants whose bones feel the
mounds of America have gazed on Niagara we as ours do.
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Now you know, could he be talking about the dinosaurs
or could he? I mean, what's found in the mounds.
You know, we know that there have been bones found
in the mounds and hundreds of reports of being sent
to the Smithsonian or somewhere else, and they just disappear.
And for those of you, and Amanda's got a whole book,
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it's like.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
A whole book library started on this stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And I had somebody, Amanda, say, uh, you believe in
all that stuff? You know, we were we had just
come out of church, and I'm like, well, I believe
there are records written, records from beginning of time, I
ain't never seen nothing. And then I brought this up
like David versus Glas and his four brothers. You know,
(06:36):
he he took care of them later. So we'll we'll
get to our guest here because I know he's he's
probably got a lot to talk about. And he he's
actually gone to uh was a Lovelock cave and found
bones and.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Yes, the famous Lovelock cave.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yes, So let's bring mister Davis on. How you doing,
mister Davis? All right, how are you good? I'm glad
that you're back with us. We had a great time
last time, a very informative three hours and uh we
we actually our thumbnail. I used the picture of my
son took when I was talking to you at the
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at the conference in Tennis, you know mcmanville, and I
just hate I didn't get to go to supper with
y'all our southern term but you know it was a
little too late. But uh yeah, it's it's been uh
it's been fun. And just welcome back to Squatch and holler.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
All right, I'm glad to be back.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
So how did okay, we know the Patterson Gimlin film
piqued your interest in You spent you know, years, uh
going over that and and and and making it where
we all could look at it ourselves, you know, and
and breaking down that film. How did you get into
(07:59):
the oh yeah, happy birthday? Okay, we've got somebody wished
you happy birthday in chat.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I was about to be I was gonna not jump
in on conversation there with it.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, so how did you get into the giant subject?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I think I think it's a kind of one of
the natural course of things. Now once you once you
get into Bigfoot, and Bigfoot is confirmed, at least in
your own mind, Well, then if Bigfoot's real, what else
is really? Yes, sir, you know it's got the added
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that added uh part about the coming from the Bible
with David and Clive, which is a huge thing.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah. And you know, we doing a little research, I
found that I think I've heard this before, but the
one of videos and reading that I did leading up
to this show, I was shocked to find out how
big people were in the old days. We've we've gotten
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smaller and we in our life lifespans have gotten shorter,
and there are records of people being you know, twelve
to eighteen feet tall at one point. So I don't
know what happened in the timeline, but something definitely happened.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well from what I can tell, it's it's not a
it's not when the when Native Americans first came here,
I first migrated here, there was already giants here. That's
what I gather. Giants. Giants we're talking. We're not talking
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about six foot three being a giant. We're talking about
eighteen to twenty foot maybe more. And everywhere everywhere there
was a giant. Native Americans prospered, They thrived because they
they depended on the giants. The giants were mentally sharp
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and physically outfitted, and they kind of ruled the roost.
And then after a while there came to be demi gods,
what they call a demi god, which is mixed blood
fathers a giant, mothers a human. There's several of them
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mentioned in history books. One of them is Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yes, I forgot about that. She was chief Tuscaloosa was
a big, big man.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah. Let me read what I've got in as one
of the Spanish quotes if I can find it here.
All right, here we go, says the giant. Tuscaloosa, whom
de Soto met in the Kusa Valley, was a Choctaw chief.
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Now that's a little bit of a misnomer because Tuscaloosa
the name means black warrior. And he was very, very
dark skinned. He was not of the same. He had
Indian in him, but he he was the dark part.
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The giants were dark skinned. You know, Indians came in
on them when they migrated here. Uh that. It's not
a lot of them, not a lot of the pure
purebred giants. More Demi gods than that. Uh Pihattan. And
you might remember the father of Pocahontas mhm. He had
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one hundred tribes paying tribute to him.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And he that's how he got into it with the
Pilgrims is because he considered them another tribe. He wanted
them to pay pay tribute, and they refused, and so
he sends his The next plan B was to send
his daughter over there and try to get married to
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one of them. So she goes over there. You may
not have heard this, but she takes her clothes off
and turns cartwheels. And it must have worked because she
ended up getting married to one up wow.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So let me get this straight. So the bones that
have been found in the mounds were probably leaders of tribes.
And is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I don't, I don't know. You know those things, most
of those things were ancient when they were dug out,
they were already ancient.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
We had two mounds here in my hometown of Yazoo
City when they started the town. They're gone now. They
have a street called Mound Street. And these were These
were not like your round mounds or your or pyramid mounds.
These were oblong, we different shaped. And they took them
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down a little at a time. They didn't have bulldozers,
so they used meals and slips and took them down,
used the dirt for other things, and got down into
the mound real good. They dug up giant bones. Uh.
These bones were the bones of huge people. And they
they deteriorated rapidly when they when the air got to them.
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The Yazoo Indians that they named our town after actually
lived out there too, the mouth of the Yezi River
above Vicksburg. And they they lived there. They were from
somewhere else. They weren't from around here, and they lived
there along with ofo Gulas, which they call them the
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dog people, and they were from Ohio. All these Indians
got ran out from up north by the Iroquois Confederation.
So but they all knew about the giants. And I
have a book called it's called in the Hands of
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the Great Spirit, twenty thousand years of Native American presence
in North America, and it's got quite a bit to
say about giants. One in particular, po Sayemo, you ever
heard of him? No, sir, that's and I'm kind of
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halfway inclined to think that that handprint that we found
in that cave might have been him, because that's the
direction they headed looking for him. They wanted him to
get them out under Spanish bondage, and they sent a
party out at night, and they traveled two weeks due
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north and they found Posiamo. Posamo planned their rebellion against
the Spanish, which was successful, and they ran the Spanish
out to Mexico and didn't see him again for one
hundred years. Wow, they were celebrating Posamo.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So it just amazes me of the history that's hidden.
It's not just for John's but I will define after
this start getting some books that you recommend because I
want to know, I want to learn what's been hidden
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from us, so you know, good graces.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Some things the history people who put those books together
thought they were inappropriate, like her turning cartwheels naked, so
they just didn't mention it. But that's actually what she
did to get a husband out of the Pilgrims group,
and uh appeared to work, but it wasn't considered to
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be inappropriate by the Native American standards. It was it
was standard fair what you do, right, Yeah, and they
probably were astonished.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, impressed, and.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
He wanted them to come under his his authority Alhattan
and and pay an annual tribute. So you know, it's
that's all. Uh you know that it sounds it's it's
it's if it sounds too uh tow he say, cleaned
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up the the you know what history books say about it.
That's because it is uh, you know, it wasn't nearly
that that clean. Uh uh you know. A meeting between them,
and they brought food the next day and they all
had good time, but it was it was conniving planning,
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getting to know a person. Uh. How Hatten he must
have been something he was He was like Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
He was.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
He was just he wasn't as tall as to say,
a purebred giant, but he was a heck of a guy.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So for the people just coming in, what what height
would we consider a giant at? You know, would it
be about eight or nine feet or because I know
we're talking about a lot bigger than that. But you know,
there are rare cases where humans have gotten that big
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in recent history. But they have a usually have a disease,
and there are telltale signs of that, and some of them,
some of them been studied, they don't have that. They're
they're like eight foot, you know, seven and a half
foot or whatever. So when we're talking about these giants,
are we are we talking nine foot or better?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well, probably most likely we're there. I've got one on
video that's probably exceeds nine feet what it was taken
out there in East Texas. Wow, I didn't know what
to make of it. I call it tall, Paul. I
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could see that it was tall. I went out there
and I could see for me being there that he
was saturate. It was top way holler than the other bigfoot.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Do you have a way of showing that or do
you want.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
To or oh, I'll be happy to hold on just
a minute.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Here do I need to send you?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think there's something you do on your end, but
we'll see.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Let me go to share.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Okay, share screen, Yeah, let.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Me h, mine's not show it.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Let me click on it and see sharing screen. I
remember we did it last time.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't the words are down below off.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
So I invite you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
What symbol I'm on. I think I've got it on share,
but I don't know if positively. Yeah, okay, here we go.
Share screen was just a guess there we got.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
My daddy always said I'd rather be lucky as good
any day.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Okay, I'm on Share, So you'll have to do something
on your end. I'm not sure what that is.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You got right to it. Now let me go back
and forget this one tall Paul. This was taken with
a camera of not that great a quality. It's a
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security camera of the of the time period of around
the turn of the century two thousand around in that
time period.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
It's crazy to think about the year two thousand that
is turn of the century, because when I think turn
the century, I still think like, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
This is this is without Tall Paul. Is they're filming
into a mirror.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You'll see these two right here on the on the
side over here, they're they're they're having an alter case.
Let me still do it again. It's on the right
side of the screen right in here. Okay, Now I
cut it in two and did both of them separately
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because Tall Paul comes out and runs them off.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Uh, let me find Tall Paul. Now, Tall Paul seven
twenties and.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
There he is right here.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Is that a Dutch barn or barn?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's all just a looks like just a farm, a
barn and a farm. I was there. I went there.
That roofline right there is nine nine and a half
feet off the ground.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
It looks like the head is higher than another foot
over that right.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Oh, I'll tell you this sucker's big.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah. Ess actually starting to look familiar to me? Is
this the fence jumper?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's in that same area, the same it's the same
garden and everything. This the lady told me that this
one is not not a regular there. He he's only
there every now and yet. But he came out and
stopped these two from fighting. And they ran them off
and then it runs out right there.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Look at the distance between the legs. I don't know.
When it takes a step, it looks like it's limping.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's limping or dragging, dragging its foot for some reason,
I don't know. When I first came across this video,
I didn't have any explanation with it. I didn't know
what understand full of what I was looking at. Now
I got a hold of one of the guys whose
camera it was, and uh, they explained it to me.
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You got to remember that they had no intentions of
ever showing this video. Uh, it got into my hands
through a third party.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
What's the approximate distance from the camera to the subject.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I just had to guess or look for some photos
that I have.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Oh, you're good, but I mean maybe in there, I
guess I'll.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Say it more like this. It's uh, it's how how
much taller would it be than me? If I was
standing there with him? Yeah, so I tell you I
would be looking like this.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So the doorway usually watched seven foot and to walk
into that barn and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
This came from this dude came from I'm going by
what I was told by the lady that that lived there,
that he came from the Kaimichi's, the mountains north of there.
He was just a sojourner. He'd come through and stay
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a little while and be gone. So all the rest
of them weren't this tall. He would be the equivalent
of Tuscaloosa, you know, all the rest of the Indians
were normal size. Yeah, he's way up above all the
rest of them. Some people refer to him as mountain giants.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
So we know, just looking at historic accounts where a
lot of the like the pirates would go to a
new land and and and come up on giants and
different and different on different continents. So this is this
is something that's it's just been going on for forever actually,
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and why is it so hard for I mean, I
know they're not walking downtown right now, that there's a
lot of places from the stay just like the Bigfoot,
But yeah, I'm just blown away. That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well yeah, yeah, that's that's uh. Like I said, I
when you see stuff like that, uh it's uh. I
I was I didn't know what to think of it, right,
you know. Uh, you know, first of all, your you
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have to kind of get your get your mind and
adjusted to the bigfoot actually existing, right, and then something
like this steps out.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Well, you know this is speculation, but you know what
if people see one of those and and mistakenly call
it a bigfoot, they get a you know, a two
or three second glance at something like this, that would
be the only thing mine. You know, five years ago,
my mind would have went to bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
But that's me right here now. Now maybe you know
it makes a difference perspective wise, but even with the
perspective adjusted for this dude is huge.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Wow, that really does give a comparison of size.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Well, if you look at that farm gate that it's
right there, and y'all know how tall those are. Those
are about not quite under up to my under arms.
But that's at his lower part of his hip or
under his rear end, and he's out from that. He's
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not standing beside it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, I said that he had he's been seen before.
That wasn't the first time.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Ah, But you say he was. They said that he
was kind of breaking up a fight, like he was.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, he was breaking up a fight. It was a
white one and a more a darker one and they
were fighting. What they were fighting over. Believe it or not,
was a set of tires, old tires that had been
staked out in this garden, and they they were just
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obsessed with them, and the Bigfoot were fighting like mad
over man, That's what the fence jumper was doing, was
trying to get to those tires.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Those tires had been pulled in there by the researchers.
They had a few. Call it habituation. I'm more I
kind of favor maybe provocateurs. They found whatever would stimulate
them to reveal themselves or do something right, and they
would keep on doing it and try to get them
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on camera. Uh. This this thing with the tires started
way back on the back end of the men's property.
Uh you know an old bridge that people had thrown
the tires out, and the researchers had realized they were
being thrown about at night, so they got them and
chained them all up together, and the Bigfoot got really
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mad about it.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Is the same place. Go ahead, Amanda, I was just
going to make.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
A tease, say they took their toys away and tied
them up basically.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, yeah, I don't know if there's toys or religious
about them or what the fact that it's a circle.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
True.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, they made circles with rocks too.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Now, I think when you first started doing this it
was years ago. Is this the same spot where they
had a camera into the mirror?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yes? This matter of fact, you're looking into the mirror.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Oh and it's okay, I got you and that and
and I guess the thinking of that is they don't
see the camera pointing at them mm hm. Basically, so
that was.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Uh, they were aware that the cameras did something because
they would come up behind them and tap them with
their fingernails.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But they didn't want they didn't want to walk in
front of the camera.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
And this is it, this is you said, this is Texas.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, how.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Hold on all this? When they tammy said? She said,
while one of the assistant Spurs coaches ex player, came
to my house once and I thought he was tall. Yeah.
So some of those guys, you know, I've stood beside
NFL lineman. They're probably six seven, six eight, you know,
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two seventy five to three twenty and not an ounce
of fat on them, and you feel very small. Besides
one of those guys, you had another four or five
foot and more masks, it'd be terrifying.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, this is is a whole lot. We don't know
about these things, you know. It's it's uh, even if
you got the best and the most data and the
latest data, you're still lacking a lot. Yes, you know,
they're just hard to hard, uh to get any kind
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of extended view of you know, for a length of
time and getting in the quality and all. That's hard
to hard to get him in good quality. Uh. If
if you watch let me go back down here again
without wits here he is, you'll see that a shimmers
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You ever heard anybody talk about Bigfoot kind of going
in and out and shimmering. Watching watch him there, you'll
see he'll be this part right here will disappear and
then it'll come back, and then the lower part will
disappear and it'll come back, and then at the end
at all, at all you can see the whole thing.
But uh, I don't know myself what's causing that seem mka.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I've collected a hair over a year ago. A doug
has it now, but it's uh, it's black at the
base and it's uh it's clear as fiber optic for
another two inches and they're gonna yes there. And what happened.
One of my buddies down in North Alabama had something
tried to open his door, and I went down there
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the next day and found greasy hairprints on the door
and went around found the hair preserved that and hopefully
we'll get that analyzed, maybe maybe this week. But but uh,
with that hair being the way it is, I've talked
to a few well known researchers that's been studying this,
and the the.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Clear the.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
How would I put it. The black would make it
hard to see the outline and low light conditions, and
then what light was there, it would kind of blur it,
so to speak. And you would think it would matter
what angle that was at. So as that thing is
walking and changing angles with the camera, that might be
(32:58):
what's causing that. Now that's that speculation from you know.
But the districtions it made it made sense and and
of course me being me, I threw the question into
AI what advantage it would give an animal and I
explained exactly what it looked like with the hair, and
it said it would make it hard to photograph in
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low light conditions or video because of the disbursement of
the ambient light and the black uh hiding the outline.
So I don't know if it's true or not, but
it's it's very interesting. Uh, I've got it. I'll send
you a diagram later on messenger and let you look
at it. But but you know, we we see these things.
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You've got video right here. Uh, there's several videos. And
somebody pointed out with the Freeman footage, doesn't it kind
of uh get fade out a little bit at one point?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's lots of strange news in that video.
It there's also a point where it appears to pick
up a small one and uh, you've add all that together.
That's that's got to be at number two video. Yeah,
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behind the Patterson film.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
And I agree with you on that, mister Davis. The
mister Freeman's film, I call it the oh there he
goes film of a that's one of my absolute favorites.
And I agree that it's second in line there to
Patty because there's so much antecdotal evidence with that. You know,
he got prints afterwards. You know there's the the audio
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where because he was able to capture his reaction because
you know, unlike the PG film, they didn't have audio,
so you know, just all of it is there. It's
definitely one of my top faves for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And if I'm not mistaken that the formed foot that
was from that sighting also, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Uh you're talking about the cripple foot. No, that was
uh in Bossburg, Washington.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Okay, Okay, That's where I got confused, because what was
wild about that report? In those tracks? They found those
tracks way away from there. It was the same, you know,
like a year or two later or a time span,
and they casted tracks and it matched up to that one,
I believe if I've got that report right, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Maybe it has a sense similar similar problem, whether it's
foot or something. Yeah, I imagine they have their fair
share of foot problems, you know, with all the weight
on them and everything. And of course they got probably
a big old fit pad you know on the bottom
you developed that. Yeah. Even as a kid, I used
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to go barefooted. My fate got to Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What we would do that down here too, you know,
we uh, we get My mom would feed us breakfast
and then push us out the door for the whole day.
So and we were we weren't in town. So we
would sneak into the spring house and get a drink
of water, and it was a good time. But uh,
that's that's okay. Let me ask you this. So somebody
brought up hold on, uh the Stacey Brown Senior, do
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you have a top five videos of Bigfoot king?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I can. I can tell you that the top three
I think, Okay, I think the Patterson film and the
Freeman footage and then the Mississippi Skunk.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
Yes, that one is that that's another great one.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's it's the duration is outstanding for that one. Most
of the time they don't last but just a second
or two. And he says, sat there, he didn't know
what he was filming. Right, You could hear him under
his breath, you know what, which is about what anyone
would do.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
And that one's interesting too because again with the audio,
besides hearing him talking, you can actually hear the skunk
ape the power of it as it's ripping the stuff
out of that tree, just the what's the word I'm
looking for concussive sound as the inside of the bark
and the tree is breaking apart. Well, I think that's
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really fascinating with that particular video.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
And if you've ever tried to gather firewood at a
campsite or out like we used to, you know, fish
at night on the creek banks and people. That's that's
a good point, Amanda, because I've tried to rip stuff
like that and it's almost impossible with human strength. And
then when you see something effortlessly, just separate something that
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that goes. That's part of the observation of videos, when
you see something that you know that you couldn't do yourself,
but whatever the subject is in the video has no
trouble with it.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I mean, well, that's kind of what you want out
of a video of a big foot. You want something
doing something that a regular person couldn't do. Rightybody knows
those cypress trees, they'll they'll get a hollow in the side,
but still be living on the outside. And what he
did was pull a plank off of that living part,
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just split it and pull it off and threw.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
It in the water over there, and no effort.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I went out and try found me one just about
like that and film I got my friend to film me,
and I snatched, and I snatched on it with all
my might and I could I couldn't I couldn't even
make it make a sound, you know, like it was
going to.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
It's probably still there intact, an't it. Mister? Yeah. So
you know, having a little bit of outdoors experience. I'm
not talking about being a tracker whatever. If you spend
any amount of time outdoors, it helps you when you
look at some of these videos, some of the you know,
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some of the little trees that are bent. You know,
I think we might have talked about this last time.
I'm slow and one day I realized, I'm like, you know,
how could this happen? And I'm like, you know, we
used to do that when we were smaller. We'd climb
a tree and write it down, so, you know, speculating
what could cause it. Like kids don't get out and
do that anymore. You know, maybe the little ones go
(39:44):
up and and do that. So you know, it's just
like I said, I haven't seen one do that. But
when you get into this subject, when you see a
big foot yourself, when you start questioning everything, like MK
said earlier in the show, you start trying to think
out outside the box, what could cause this? What could
cause that? And it kind of gets you kind of
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have to break if you ever had to step away,
mister Davis and just kind of come back to it later.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh well, I was called sleeping on the problem. Yeah.
Sometimes that's a good method for solving because you get
too into it. It's almost like it's in your face
and you need to back away and kind of look
at the whole thing think about it a little bit.
(40:38):
Appears to work good that way. You know. I've solved
some problems like that.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
So here's a question I keep. The question is you
have any thoughts on the Independence Day video. Now I
get that confused because I thought the Independence Day video
was the one that was caught running across the ridge
just low the edge in the green grass. And then
now I've seen it refer to the one that the
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female is carrying the baby that runs out Okay, it
runs out behind the rock, and.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
The other one is called the Memorial Day.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Oh okay, okay, that's all right. It was probably ten
fifteen years in between that I heard, you know reference.
So now the one with the Independence Day I don't know.
If I contacted you years ago, you wouldn't have known
who I was. But I was looking at that video
over and over and over, just like the Zapruder fan.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
So I'm the one that I took gaming headphones and
turned the sound up, and just before she breaks and run,
it sounds like the baby makes a noise and kind
of blows their cover. It's a little wine And I
don't know if that's true or not, but you can
hear it in the original video, like before she exposes herself,
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because I'm thinking, why would she you know, me being me,
why would she spoke with herself like that? Well, when
I turned the sound up, I heard like a whimper,
and after that whimper she boked. So I don't know
whether she thought her she was, you know, cover was
blown or whatever. But that's that's just I get curious
about something and I try to dig into as much
(42:17):
as I can, but I don't know if that's what
happened or not.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Well, remind me where was that taken.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
I don't remember. I don't remember it was.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Somewhere in the PMW, but I can't remember exactly where either.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I would like to go over some and do some
research into locations of some of these better films and
see if there's any kind of similarities in the type
of terrain or or is it more generally widespread, you know,
(42:58):
And that to me, it uh wasn't whether there's an
awful lot of data that a person could get into.
You know, it's it's time consuming to do that. Sometimes
data pays off.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah, and you know, and also it would be good
to point out whether the sightings ramp up for three
months out of the year, you know, versus the other
nine months or whatever. Like just say maybe you have
a travel a way or the food supply whatever's and
(43:37):
you know that's that's there and available, or maybe it's
a place where they they go and have their young
they're young and and do that and then and go back.
Because I've taken reports I have we have a place
here that uh now is the time where we have activity.
You know, in summertime when it's ninety eight degrees high humidity,
(43:59):
we have nothing and moves. It's close to the river.
But we got a phone call tonight that there was
a scream heard by a neighbor and they don't know
what it is, they don't know what we do. It
was just an innocent telling another neighbor. And we got
a phone call and said, you know, so we're going
out there to put recorders out tonight, so after the show.
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But you know, you can't help when you get into
this to try to figure out the puzzle. It's so hard.
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Locate a file here. You just keep on talking there.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
All right, Amanda, you have any thoughts on the giants?
I know you read books and stuff.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Oh, It's definitely been a subject that I've had some
interest in for a very long time. Again, you know,
just starting with the obvious one that you mentioned, you know,
David and Goliath, and you know, I always hear people
talk about that, you know, I grew up in church
all the time, in Sunday school hearing about it all
the time. And then come to find out later that
(45:09):
you know, there's reports of giants in modern day and
by modern day I mean uh not b C kind
of kind of reports. And uh, then you dig again,
you dig in a little bit more, you dig in
a little bit more, and then all of a sudden,
these newspaper articles start popping up or these reports of
(45:33):
you know, the Indian mounds and everything. So it's a
very interesting subject matter to me. And again, I think
a lot of it is just I'm just gonna say
it is. I just think a lot of it is
some hidden history that has been hidden from us, and
there's got to be reasons why to it. And that's
my tenfoil hat for the day.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah. Well, you know this this video that I run
up on, I was so shocked. It didn't shocked me
that it's in Tennessee. It just shocked me how close
it was. Just this creek is right over here. I
knew there were mounds in this area. But and you know,
when my uncle and them used to plow and disk
(46:15):
the land up for tobacco season. We would wait for
the first rain and we would hit the fields and
you you could just pick up our heads and artifacts.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
Like same down same down here right where I where
I grew up at the like a couple of houses down.
The guy had a huge cornfield and every time that
he would plow him or him my brothers and my dad.
I never got to go, of course, but yeah, they
would go collect arrowheads from things. And I've seen some
(46:49):
interesting ones that people have brought in that are, you know,
way bigger than than my hand. So it's like, what
would you use to hunt hunt with that big old
thing for?
Speaker 4 (46:59):
And but what's good about this subject. Everybody in chat,
people that will listen later, is you can. You can
start digging right after the show and it's not hard
to find. It's out there.
Speaker 6 (47:14):
Now. There's tons of videos on YouTube about it that
people are making, several low budget documentaries you can find
on different streaming services. Thanks Catherine. Yeah, so those the
other night you miss, I was wearing a tinfoil hat,
like a literal tinfoil hat for Halloween the other night.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Would would y'all like to see a giant's head? Yes? Please?
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I think so. I'm the chicken.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Let me tell you the story of this head. Okay,
in Lovelock Cave when when the Smithsonian said they sent
some guys, but it's not really fair. They really didn't
have much of anthropology department at all. One of the
guy came from the Smithsonian was nineteen years old. The
(48:04):
other guy, they call him an anthropologist, but he was
a missionary. He was training to go to Africa and
then he got word of Lovelock Cave. He was in
the Phoebe Hurst School of Anthropology at Berkeley. So he's
(48:25):
bunking up with Ishi, the very last wild Indian, you know,
the last of his tribe. You've seen the movie, no
doubt it used to become Graham Green in it. Anyway,
he gets word of it, so he starts pen Palin
(48:47):
at least Herlishka from the Smithsonian and the heat Healishka
talks him into going out there with meeting Darrington out there.
So his his name is Llewelly and loud. He's totally untrained,
but so is so is Darrington. But anyway, they they
(49:11):
meet out there and they start to dig, and they
start finding all kinds of stuff, and they and and
they even found the mummies back then, but they were
instructed to rebury them.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
And uh wait they found mummies here, No, in Lovelock Cave.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Uh taught really like gigantic mummies. Okay, okay, Well they
go on hiatus. You know they're they're doing this without
without funding.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
So they go on hiatus and the townspeople from Lovelock
come out there and they dig and they dig up
this huge mummy which it's it's not just a skeleton,
but it has dried up flesh.
Speaker 6 (50:03):
On it and true money, and.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
They take it and they boil it and they drink
the liquor in a civic organization ceremony.
Speaker 6 (50:18):
Why you believe that.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
I've got it in a book. But before they boiled
it got some person chopped its head off, and that
head stayed hidden and somebody, somebody had it hidden until
nineteen twenty two and they couldn't stand it anymore, and
it made it into a newspaper. And I have a
(50:45):
copy of it. You want to see the head, Yeah,
you want to try to get a head. That's it.
You could make out some hair. The quality is pretty low.
I actually improved this quality a little bit. It was
(51:08):
much worse than this. But look how many teeth it's
gott I don't see.
Speaker 6 (51:13):
I'm literally about to say that. It was like, look
at how many teeth are in that mouth?
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Anthly has a dentition problem. You can see where they
whacked it off, their solt it off.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Yeah, and that's one thing I was you know, I
did not know until this past couple of weeks that
a lot of them, the skeletons, they've had six fingers
and toes and a double row of teeth, which is
very well, I mean them being twenty foot talls odd enough.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
But do Monroe photographed a one with double rows of
teeth about forty five years ago in the basement of
the Humboldt Museum. Win a mucker. You seen it, haven't?
Have you seen it? No? I have not. Let me
see if I can find that one for you. And
(52:08):
it's a true I mean, this is a big son
of a gun. And now they deny they ever had it.
Speaker 6 (52:15):
Of course they do.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Let's see here, giant skeleton, giant skull. That's what I
look for.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
And for y'all that are listening on Spotify in the
near future, you can come to Untold Radio Network on
YouTube and check us check out the pictures and the videos.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
There. It is on the left there they's still got
Baguano stains on it.
Speaker 4 (52:55):
So we've got a normal humans goal on the right.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
And then that's a page. Okay, this is a really
big guy. Wow, the size of his eye eyes, I know.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
And I'm looking at the top the top row of
teeth and how wide that top lip must showed?
Speaker 2 (53:15):
That shows the double row a little better?
Speaker 6 (53:18):
Oh yeah, how like strong The cheek area is too,
is very interesting.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Also, over crowding, over crowding of the bottom a demandible.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Looks like it's kind of pushing them to the center.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Which is what we saw on that chopped off one,
you know, the chopped off head.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Right Wow, that's yeah, uh you been. Oh actually that's
what I was Amanda was talking about, and I noticed
that too. I'm thinking that's dense, that's built very well.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
But if you look at this right here, the demandible,
you'll see an unusual thing about it that identifies where
it's from, where the heritage, where it came from, and
as far as it's DNA. What do you see unusual?
Speaker 6 (54:15):
Well, one, it has a very strong jawline and very
strong and by strong I mean like size wise. The
my generation younger would say he has a giga chat
kind of chin. But yeah, I am, I am, I
seeing a point you're getting I'm getting close. Okay, it
(54:40):
looks like it's coming to a point.
Speaker 8 (54:43):
There you go, you're getting even closer. That's uh, that's
what they call a rocker jaw. Okay, that's a that's
an exclusively Polynesian trait.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
Oh. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yes, So this dude right here is a giant and
he heralds from somewhere out in Polynesia out there, wow south.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
That's and you know, the the Polynesians are known for
their their warriors being really tough and strong and probably
some of the just in guy terms, some of the
baddest dudes on the planet anyway. And you get a
guy that's double or triple the size, he would be
(55:38):
a terror, I imagine if you want to.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
I don't know if you've ever read anything about the
Solomon Islands and the giants they have on those islands.
Still to this day, they find their tracks.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Uh did you Okay? I was watching YouTube show a
couple of months back, and I think you and mister
Ron Moorehead were on, and did y'all You said, y'all
found a track that was about twenty twenty two inches long.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I think the one that he found at the ser
camp was twenty four inches up.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
Twenty four Okay, Wow.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
That's that's a really monstrous track. You get that heavy,
then you start to see changes in the anatomy, right,
you know, to adjust for the weight. Yeah, they walked differently.
I had a description by a biologists of that when
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you get beyond a certain weight, you have to change
the way you walk. You have to try to keep
your legs under you more.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
It's take the pressure off the joints and ligaments maybe.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah, that and whatever, just the weight picking it up.
If you extend your leg out, Uh, well then you've
got to you've got to push off and and reach
that point of full crumb right and come back over.
It gets very difficult to do when you're trying to
weigh all that much, you know. H we're not talking
(57:18):
about just a few pounds. Were talking about a lot.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
And if I think it was you, I believe that
talked about the muscle density. Then we talk about like
so if you have one of our muscles and you
take one, there's it's probably two or three times more dense.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
It's it's twice as dense. At least. If you look
at a big foot and you say he looks like
he weighs six hundred pounds, you can double that.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
Wow, this.
Speaker 6 (58:01):
Go ahead, okay, yeah, question real quick before we change gears.
So this gentleman calling him gentlemen the skull here being Polynesian,
what my brain is the wheels turned into my brain
right now is a lot of the giants and other
things that were found there in Lovelock Cave, what most
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of them red headed per se, or at least what
some they did find am I correct remembering that. Okay.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
The reason I'm thinking that necessarily red headed, but red.
Speaker 6 (58:35):
Haired, red haired gotch.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
I had a meeting with the Paiutes and they were
very adamant about that, that it's there that they were
red hair, not just red headed gotcha.
Speaker 6 (58:48):
Okay. The reason I mentioned that or was just wanting
to double check my facts there was because I'm just
thinking most Polynesian people, at least as far as in
modern days, most of them are you know, slightly you know,
chestnut skin with mostly very very dark hair. So just
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trying to.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
Think you that, yeah, that is a difference there. Maybe
somebody can weigh in on that that knows a little
bit about what hair happens to hair.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
So some of the reports that I've read on the
different continents, a lot of the giants had red hair,
so and I know, I think that's one of the
rarer colors, right, it's close to black.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Amongst amongst the normal humans on the planet, I think
it's mostly nor Nordic vikings had red hair, red hair
and green eyes, or red hair and blue eyes.
Speaker 4 (59:57):
And they even encountered some giants had you know, had
to do battle or run.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Yeah, there was a lot of giants in their mythology
and folklore as well.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
But I think they said they found some over here.
They called them scalings, and historians just explain away, you know,
the word. They don't really go into trying to figure
out what they were talking about. But they said that
the scraalings had dark eyes, and it was so bad
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that they could they couldn't move inland hardly. You know.
They stayed out there on the there, on their little
peninsula out there, and took the wind and the rain
and all ah. There was some that did go inland.
I saw the Heathen ear stone. You ever heard of
the Heathen ear stone? Sounds from me off the top
(01:00:51):
of my head, I can't remember. It's on the Arkansas River.
It's got Nordic riding on it in an old style
that goes way back. Uh, it's it's Uh. They were
able to interpret it and they said it's it's a landmarker.
It says it belongs to Garth.
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I don't think it's Garth Brooks.
Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
I have to say, who's Garth? Which Garth we're talking
about here?
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Uh? Well, here's some here's some giant footprints or giant
in size dimension. That's about a mile away from Lovelock
A and uh, let me get to some better angles
and stuff. There's one right there. These are twenty inches.
Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Okay, wow, good one night there, one night there?
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
See that one.
Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Yeah, it's that's deep.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I'm running out of battery.
Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Yeah. Are these something that y'all found?
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yeah? I like that hat. They looked liked here a
couple of weeks old, all right right here, and another
one right here.
Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
Okay where the sand does dirt there looks really rocky
as well too. So it's very interesting that that left
as deep and as big a footprints in that terrain
as it did.
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
That's a whole track way.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
You couldn't walk up the road to. You couldn't drive
the road all the way to the cave because of
sand dune had formed across the road.
Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
So it forced us to get off road off and
we walked to the cave off through the desert, and
that's when we found that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
You know, it's one of those chants things that.
Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Happened sometimes totally unexpected, but you know, with with what
you do, you keep your eyes open. I've only found
tracks four times, and every time I felt like I
scored a touchdown in the super Bowl, It's like, I
can't believe that they're there.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
That's where don thinks he sees toes.
Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
So what was it? Was it that it happened to
be headed towards any water or cover.
Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Or uh it might have been some water out there
in the in the middle of the playa out there.
You see our tracks coming up to it at that
time of year.
Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
I don't know, that's huge.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah, so there you go. You know, that's that's that's
wild country up in there, and there's a lot of
it's awful limits. Uh, you can't go in there because
it's owned by the military.
Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
So would would this terrain be similar to what might
have been the terrain in Kandahar? Would you think.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Similar?
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
And and you know, whether you're talking about deer, bigfoot,
giants or whatever, if something doesn't want to be seen,
it's going to hang out in places where we usually aren't. Uh.
You know, the deer, they'll they'll you can tame them,
they'll come in for food and all that. But uh,
(01:04:37):
the intelligent, the more intelligent species will will avoid go
at all costs, you know, and you know, learn how
to live in the learning how to live in the
desert is pretty harsh.
Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Uh. This right here is a giant's grave. It's in
northern Nevada. The Indians killed a giant and they just
piled river rock on him. And they said, and this
is uh. This photo was taken in the nineteen fifties.
At that time the Indians saw you were very well.
(01:05:17):
You could take anybody there. But now they they quit.
They quit. Used to come every year and have a
ceremony and throw river rocks on the grave to keep
his spiritual coming back out.
Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
That was my question I was going to ask, would
why would they spend the time and energy to bury
it with rocks.
Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
He was picking up people and bashing them against the rocks.
He picked him up by the ankle and just were
bashed the whole their whole body against the rocks. And
he was eating. He was cannibalistic. He was just bad
to the bone. It took three hundred people to do
him in wow. Uh, let me read this to you.
(01:06:00):
Somewhere back in the unparted mists of time, long before
the coming of the white Man to the Great Basin,
a race of giants inhabited this land. Native American tradition
indicated that they may have been some nine feet tall, redheaded,
and cannibalistic Sarawhinnemucca. Rites of a battle between these people
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and their own Piut tribe along the Humboldt River. There's
a grave on the Pyramid Lake Indian reservation in which
one of those giants supposedly buried. According to Piute tradition,
a giant once, let me see if I can pick
this up. It got kind of awkwardly trimmed. That's it
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came down from the north and killed hundreds of warriors
by picking them up and knocking their heads together with
such force as to crush their skulls. Others were caught
up by the heels and dashed to death on the rocks.
Faced with annihilation, the Pyut Lee held a council and
decided upon a plan to rid themselves of the creature
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on the given day. I thought it was interesting that
they call it a creature.
Speaker 6 (01:07:09):
That is interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
On a given day, a party of three hundred men
armed with bows and arrows concealed themselves behind rocks in
the Truckee Canyon, which is still there, and they awaited
their nemesis. He was seen approaching with a long string
of fish and a great number of rabbits slung over
his shoulder and a rope. When he got within range,
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the concealed warriors stood up simultaneously and each discharged an arrow.
He turned and fled out of the canyon, pursued by
the warriors, but fell dead within half a mile. The
men feasted upon the fish and rabbits and buried their
adversary where he fell. No monument was ever erected to
mark the final resting place of the giant, but the
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descendants of those who carried out the execution have conducted
an annual pilgrimage.
Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
We go.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
You know, I just had a one of those Ohao
moments that probably don't mean anything, but while you're reading that,
and it said cannibals cannibalism. Wouldn't that be great if
you had double row teeth where you could bite into
bones and hard.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Well, yeah, that's my interest would be to try to
recover his remains. But they went to the site. The
Indians did for many years, and rocks would be piled
up on the mound to keep the spirit of the
creature from emerging in the tracks made by the wounded
giant were cleaned out and preserved. Food, beads and trade
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goods were sometimes brought out to appease the spirit, but
the inhabitants of the reservation finally let the traditional lapse
and the story was largely forgotten. When this writer visited
the site some years ago, he measured the mound as
being roughly sixteen feet in length and four and one
half feet wide. The tracks allegedly made by the retreating
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giant measure from sixteen to eighteen feet apart. At that time,
the writer was that maybe the end of it. Yeah,
that's it. It got some of it got trimmed off,
but I didn't do it. So a friend of mine,
friend of mine showed me this.
Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
He just wondered why they were comfortable putting that in
a in print, and now they wouldn't, you know, I
mean exactly unless it was some group of investigators.
Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Or scientists a little better maybe right there?
Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, I said, yeah, that's and you know when Kenny,
our buddy from South Alabama, was I was blown away.
I heard about the burial mounds. But when I found
out that they had found giants in the bottom of
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the mound, there was one there was one hundred foot
tall hill. Now I'm not saying it was a mound,
but they found the this newspaper clip and I have
from Tennessee. They found the giant fifty foot below the surface.
So was that a mound that they build it up
to bear this thing? I mean, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Wow, they considered the giants. They held them in great reverence.
Like I said, these giants. Everywhere there was a giant,
the Indians tribes around it thrived, right, so you know
they had protection. You know, this is so overwhelmingly large
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person that nobody will challenge him, you know, nobody wanted
so they it was a mutual type thing. And like
I said, even the demigods they weren't nearly as big
as their fathers, but they were bigger than the rest
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of the Indians around there. And they they held the
same position, you know, tributes. You know, they bring them stuff,
bring them food, and in turn they got protection.
Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Right. Sounds like a mafia type thing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Well, I think back in that day they probably needed
whatever they could get.
Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Yeah, because you know, we forget you know, it's not
that many years ago, really, but it just seems like
it is. You if you go back one hundred years
and and you're living on the plains. If you don't
have protection, if you don't have a group of people,
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you're just sitting up for it. Animals, people and everything, weather,
everything else. So I thought, you know when you said
they kind of worked together, and well, if you can't
beat them, join them, you know, try to try to survive.
And you know that's that sounds similar to a king
type situation where you you grow your crops and give
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them so much as like taxes or whatever. Uh, so
they won't Uh, it's a good deal for both all
people involved, I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
But that's what I don't want. A giant's physical you know,
capabilities were you know, I know they imposing, posing, Uh,
but they they weren't regular people, you know, so well,
what what's inside we don't know?
Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Well, I know I think they lived a long time.
Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Yes, I watched one of Amanda's favorite people, l A. Marzouli,
and one of his guys. They were they had interviewed
one of the fellas that supposedly was that uh in
Kandahar when when they ran up, the first group ran
up on the giant and then the second group went
in because they couldn't communicate that there was nobody communicating back.
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They went in and the survivors, the one guy, they
talked to him like two or three times before they
interviewed him, and they said that this thing was so big.
It was it had red hair, and it was impossibly
fast for its size. It was very it had a staff,
and it was very well trained in how to use it.
(01:13:27):
And so that's that's the only time I've heard a
supposed witness give an account like that. But you would
think that if that's the case. Now, they did end up,
you know, as we all know, they ended up killing
the giant. But I just think about all of my
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friends that went to the military, and you know, if
something had happened to one of them, one of my
best friends, and what would the military done with they
have told you what happened, or just said it was,
you know, an accident in or that's just that's it's
amazing to think about because a lot of times when
I read story, I kind of put myself in the story,
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and that's a that's a terrifying one.
Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
Yeah, the story of the candlehar Giant and many others
is some of my favorites out there?
Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Oh what is this?
Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
That's the giant handprint that we found in Lovelock Cave.
What you see compared to his hand and the knife?
Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
How long is that knife? About twelve?
Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
He has a notch on that knife and he pulls
it out to linesh and it makes the knife is
eighteen inches at that.
Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Okay, so that's the width, yeah the middle finger. So
is that is that?
Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Okay? So is is that? Because I've heard stories of
where certain uh uh tribes got together and sealed up
caves and burn them.
Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
This is the cave.
Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
That's the cave.
Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Oh yeah, that's that's yeah, this is the case.
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
Does that? I can't talk this ceiling sorry? Is uh?
Do you think that's the reason for the color difference there?
Or is that like stained from bat guano or something.
Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
No, that's stained from a soot and fatty deposits. That's
on the ceiling. Uh uh? Your ears of cooking in there?
Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
It's like a tar.
Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
Oh that this is on the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Now, this is on the wall. Okay, it's the same
stuff I got you. You can put your thumb on it,
look raised, you know, put your thumb above your head
on the ceiling. You can count. Count up to about
a minute and that stuff will soften from the heat
of your thumb. Uh. It's you see where it stuck
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to his finger when he pulled his finger off and
made a ridge of it. See it right there going up?
Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Yes, you took this picture.
Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I did.
Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
Wow, Thanks for sharing that, because you never know.
Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
Like, what's the word. I'm looking like a greasy residue,
look to it.
Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Sh it's fat and soot kind of mixed up together. Uh,
it was all over his hand. Apparently that's down in here.
There's another chamber and all up on this wall right here.
(01:16:35):
Their soot from a fire down in here that came
up out of this hole. Now it's got a debris
cone in it. You can't get down in there.
Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
You see see some of the soot right here on
the edge of that light.
Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
I've seen that on rock out you know out west.
Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
That's that tari stuff. It's how long it's been there.
I mean there's a spider spider web going across it. Wow,
it's uh see it's even embedded in it set across
its salon.
Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
So how many how many giants were involved in this incident.
Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Do you know, Oh, I don't know, because it took them.
It took them several years to get rid of them. Ah.
And this is where there used to be a lake
out here, and the lake came up like right here
at the time. You know, the lake goes up and down.
But they they ran out of their little reed, had
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a red platform they were on and ran into this cave,
and the pilots trapped them in there and burnt shot
flame and arrows in there. Wow.
Speaker 6 (01:18:05):
But do you know or have a general idea of
about how big the that particular cave is.
Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
It's changed.
Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
In nineteen sixty three Emory Strong went in there. He
said at that time it was one hundred and sixty
feet deep. It's nowhere near that now.
Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Do you think it's been that's just from natural time
and decay that change all.
Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
That reason reason they got this this handprint on the wall,
it's because they built a excuse me, an observation deck
and they they it was it was low in the middle,
so they pulled all of that stuff away from the
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walls to the center to level and uncovered it. So, uh,
then me and don come poking our noses in there.
And found it. They didn't know, they never saw it.
The people building that thing that's a sand dune?
Speaker 6 (01:19:23):
What how white that Sanders thought about what we saw today?
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
What are you about? Can't hardly hear that?
Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
So that all of that was the bottom of a
lake at one point.
Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Yeah, yeah, wow, and it changed. I tried to take
a picture of the moon. That's Pyramid Lake and I
found uh Petri glyphs with Egyptian riding on. Wow, along
that lake and see interesting that Egyptian writings on the
Petrick glyph and they have a pyramid.
Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
And then the lake happens to be called Pyramid Lake.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
It looks like the bent pyramid in Egypt.
Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
It actually does. Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
So if you take and open up a history book
from school now, it probably hasn't hardly any truth. At
this rate, we're going, I mean, that's that's a pyramid.
Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
You don't you don't get out on this lake. The
Native Americans say water babies will pull you down. Oh
and I don't know what a water baby is, but
they believe it because there ain't nobody on it and
that it has fish.
Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
That so we got wreck says the government. Did they
raise the handprint after you found it in the case.
Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I did it. It was there in June and by
November the whole front of the rock was gone.
Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
Gone as in like white clean, like somebody cleaned it or.
Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Gone led it away away.
Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
Oh wow, Yeah, they were making sure you really couldn't
find anything.
Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
I'm glad we got to see the picture. I mean,
because you can. You know, looking on the internet, you
don't know where the uh you like, you see a
black panther and uh over two weeks in Facebook it's
it's in Mississippi, Alabama, California, Canada, the same cat, you know,
so you don't never know. But the fact that you
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were there and took that picture, that's why I asked,
is that's amazing to me? And think thank you for
sharing that with us.
Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
And yes, thank you, sir Patrick Lift.
Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
These are the oldest PETR glyss in North America. Trailers
everywhere here.
Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
That looked like a face with it looked like a
Wilson off of that movie Castaway on the volleyball.
Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Those are cartoons. Have you ever seen a cartouche in Egypt?
They're oblong and they have the symbols for the king.
Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
Yeah, that's the ones where they have the symbols inside
of the circle.
Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Or over or three of them there together, Yes.
Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
Sir, yeah you can see that. Wow, and this is
all outside of pyramid lake.
Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Yeah, so what that is? Time period? Does anyone know?
Like how old they are?
Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Ten thousand, seven hundred years?
Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Crap?
Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Oh? Why what's this now? Oh? It won't let me
stop it? Crazy thing.
Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
Gotta love technologies sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
My ability to stop it. I want to stop to
show you what else. Okay, now this looks like it's
really hard to read. But this right here is what
they call me. Say, Okay, right here is is a
circle that stands for God and or Rah in Egyptian terms.
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This right here is a folded towel, and it makes
the s sound me, says Ramis, says Ramsys. Wow, they
made it on this tough tufa. What they call Tufa's
really rough stuff. It's some kind of for nations in
(01:24:00):
water that cause that. But so that they had they
right here, it fell apart. So they moved the Rah
over here, which is it's still easy to read ram
missus boldly towel.
Speaker 6 (01:24:19):
Someone in the comments section is asking Egyptian question mark
or were they possibly higher? I can't talk hieroglyphics from
the Maya or the Natchets, who were known to have
migrated through that area. And I apologize to those tribes
for butchering those.
Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Names questions, but I recognize these to be Egyptian, the
same as you see in Egypt. Cool, which is, uh,
why why are they there?
Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
We want to talk about missing history exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:24:55):
Yeah, and this would be north of the Grand Canyon
where there's supposed to Egyptians and pyramids and hieroglyphs and
all that kind of stuff there too, which is a
whole other rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Yeah, it certainly is. Let me uh uh.
Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
M K had a good friend asking me this week.
He's very very smart guy. I don't know why he
talks to me, but he he said, Roger, what's your
opinion on why Bigfoot? Uh it's been hidden, you know
and some of this other stuff. And I said, well,
and the m K kind of said something about it
at the beginning of the show. The easy answer is,
(01:25:32):
you know, follow the money, and how many people would
quit going out and and other people would be you know,
locked up in their house and couldn't handle it mentally.
But also I honestly believe the subject of Bigfoot, like
m K was saying earlier, leads to more truth and
(01:25:54):
some body doesn't want us knowing the real history. And
it just confuses me as to why there.
Speaker 6 (01:26:04):
Has to be a million dollar question.
Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
There has to be something there that will cause loss
of control, you know what I mean? Yeah, it Bigfoot
is a lynch pin.
Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
I you know right here, that's your me say, and
that's your s just your plane is bowling towel me
say rom missus and this other is added to it
saying something else sent a cartoon.
Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
That's the one Scott Walter did. Is it America Unearthed
that he did a few years ago?
Speaker 6 (01:26:50):
I believe it was America on Earth. Yeah, that's a
fantastic series that I'm actually glad that he was able
to get out there because he figured they would try
to hide some of the stuff that he was talking
about on that show.
Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
And there's stuff east of the Mississippi that's mind blowing,
you know, Georgia. Georgia has got some crazy history, some
of the hieroglyphs and rock carvings and you know, uh
here we've got some Mississippi's full of Alabama.
Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Either me say right here, yep, yeah, you can see it.
There's raw raw mesis fold of towel right here. He's
got it cracked underneath it, but you can still see
it right there, Promises Ramses.
Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
And you know, you start going out the rabbit hole,
you know, is what we use. And then you find
ah and the Egyptian deserts and places is that supposedly
has had no activity in so many years. And then
you find glass, and you find things that are built
(01:28:11):
because we're you know, everybody that's here probably knows all this,
but you know, things that are built, and we're like, well,
how could we do that with the Now we're talking
about eighteen foot twenty foot tall people, there's probably ten
times stronger than we are. Probably helped a little bit,
but I won't go any further down that. I have
other ideas also, But you know, at one time, you know,
(01:28:36):
the around the Pyramids, it was it was plentiful with
water and a lot of the I know you've seen
this were a lot of the markings on the rocks
are from erosion from water, so that carries them further
so far back. And the wildness that happened this summer,
I'm thinking it was the summer when they did the
(01:28:57):
readings under the pyramids. And I don't know what to
believe that I could. I mean, I haven't seen it
with my own eyes. But if if that's the case,
maybe maybe people are protecting us from things that would
make us question too much or go crazy. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Have you ever seen that these big old stones up
there in Peru and a place I think they call
it Aliampo Aliampo.
Speaker 6 (01:29:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
They these things weighed like one hundred tons of peace.
And they carried them from the other mountains across the
valley and up there and put them in place. And
the uh they listed three reasons, three ways that that
three things that have to be met in order for
them to transport those stones and manipulate them. One of
(01:29:51):
them was that the stones have to be willing to
be trans trans transport. I that just I know, blew
my mind. I know what what what do they mean
by that? Because you know a lot of cultures way
(01:30:12):
back believe that the stone, these shining stones were alive.
Mm hmmm. That's where you get the word the surname,
you know, living stone, living stone, That's where it came from. Wow. Uh,
they all believed that and like like these big old
(01:30:32):
huge like stone hinge and all that. They believe those
stones were living things and they had energy. And as
it turned out there were right. Uh, stones do have energy,
especially the one with quarts of them.
Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Yes, that's now if I think I read this right.
But here's a fact that blew my mind. I'm not
a scientist, but I read I was reading up on
quartz because we had some things happen where there were
a lot of quartz around, and I started digging in
and the first thing I read was quartz. It's kind
(01:31:12):
of enigma because it's not it's neither a solid nor
a liquid or it doesn't have a classification really, So
I don't know if I misread that or not, but
that blew me away. It's neither a solid or liquid
(01:31:32):
or so what is it? We know it stores energy
and if it's put under extreme pressure that you can
get energy out of it. And I told the story
a while back where actually MK, we were at mc menville.
Did you see the lady with the crystal bowls that
was kind of in front of you up the aisle.
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She had some huge crystal bowls and she had some
pictures of footprints out front where she found some big
foot footprints, and Randy Brooks he said, you got to
come over and talk to this lady. Well, I was
interested in the bowls. And when she started rubbing the
rim of that bowl, the big one, I stuck my
hand down in it without touching the bowl. It lit
(01:32:14):
me up. I mean, goosebumps, hair standing up, energy just
on this side. It was the craziest feeling. But you know,
if she was releasing that energy, then it makes sense.
I guess I'm too.
Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
My theory about the huge stones is that that it
somehow involves giants, not necessarily to having the huge brute
strength to pick them up, but having some kind of
knowledge about how to do it. You know how the
willingness for the stones to come that that's that's a
(01:32:57):
really fascinating state. But and you look at some of
those stones, it looked like they've been scraped with a
butter knife, and you know, it made to made to
match perfectly.
Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
The seams. The seams are unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (01:33:12):
I mean, yeah, supposedly you can't even get a piece
of paper between them. And I find it fascinating that
some of them even look like they've been melted together.
Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. You know how
you would get something that's almost about to melt, still
kind of solid, and scrape it with a butter knife
or any kind of knife, and it would make these
little pat Yeah it shows on the stones. Uh what
(01:33:45):
was the world was going on there? M h These
were so long ago, and the people involved we don't
know who they were. We don't know if it could
have been the giants are not us, that's pretty plain.
We don't get that big. But uh we we they
(01:34:07):
may have exercise some hidden knowledge or hidden skills, uh
to them building something like uh you know, uh, sacks
sacks of sacks of human women. I have a hard
time with that one. Uh, you know, with a hundred
ton stones might have just been you know, a day
(01:34:30):
in the park for.
Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
The Yeah, like the Easter Island statues. Yeah, yeah, just
they're they're bigger than we thought originally because they go underground.
Then you have these stones that are perfectly round.
Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
You know, it could do that?
Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
Who could do that?
Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
And And I always looking at like some of the
doors and some of the faces, you know in Egypt. Uh,
if you look at like one face and we would
think they chiseled it out or whatever. But the measurements
are exact, draw line right down the middle, and the curves,
(01:35:13):
everything is perfect. What kind of workmanship? How long would
that take? What would you you know? We couldn't do
it now without spending five years with engineers trying to
figure out a way to do it. And I've always
felt drawn to these stories for some reason, And I
(01:35:34):
don't know why.
Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
Maybe I've been the same way to Roger. Maybe stories
have always fascinated me.
Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
It maybe it's because I saw the Bigfoot when I
was young. It did open my mind up to like
MK said earlier, if this this is real, then what
else is real? I've always said that, But I get
how many of y'all been guilty of watching a one
hour ancient Aliens or something about the Pyramids, and and
(01:36:05):
and end up six or seven hours just watching one
right after another. You know, it's just mesmerizing to me.
Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
It is you know, what the attraction is is it
puts you right on the edge of discovery and keeps
you there. That's you go seven or eight hours, that's
a good job. It's it's you feel like that if
you take your eyes off of it, you're gonna miss something,
(01:36:34):
and maybe you would. Uh, there's it's it's fascinating, and
also it kind of it kind of you get the
impression that it's important, right that.
Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
You're right, it's not. It's more than curiosity. It's a
feeling like you like it's like the carriage right there,
but you just can't get it. You're right, you're that's exactly.
That's a good way, but.
Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
You're still drawn to it, and so you just have
to keep trying to go for it.
Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Yes, we know there's something there, and in my goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Well let me tell you what. It's beginning to open
up over there a little bit. And I told my grandkids,
told them I'd give them twenty dollars if they could
recite to me the Egyptian alphabet. And they hadn't done
it yet. But Eva put it on her wall. She
says she's going to look at it every time she
(01:37:30):
goes by.
Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
I've got a oh, go ahead, Sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
We need good people over there, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
we've had a long time with people that would tolerate
no other opinions or no other directions. We had a
guy over there as Ahiah was who's known as the Gatekeeper.
He was there to discrete if you got anywhere near
anything important, he tried to run you out of there,
wouldn't let you come back.
Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
If there's a documentary of any kind of out Egypt.
He's the face that's on there just about.
Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
And I know who you're talking about, just and I
don't know what you're talking about because I've watched so
many of them. Somebody made a comment about the buildings
over there, you know the doorways. That's a normal size
human silhouette right there, and then I don't know meters,
but apparently that's a pretty good sized doorway. I've seen
bigger in Nashville at the Parthenon. It's supposed to be
(01:38:28):
exact replica. Also, here's a little side story. So I
live in Cornersville, Tennessee, and I can drive three miles
from right here my driveway. There's a little low museum
that doesn't look like anything at all at I sixty five,
exit over at twenty seven. It's the Ron Whitt Museum.
(01:38:51):
And he's yes, sir, And we had a store five
miles north of there for thirty years. Mister Watt used
to come in and talk to me. I had no
idea who he was, but we got to talking about
him finding what they thought was the arc, and they
have pieces that they brought back and carbon dated and
(01:39:12):
you know, of course he's passed away now and I'm
now looking for truth. And you know, back in the nineties,
I just didn't know who I was talking to. And
he told me stories, just me and him drinking coffee
about them going over there in the Turkish government, uh,
seeing what they had found and running them off, and
there was you know, uh, you know, there was kind
(01:39:35):
of threat of war going on and whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
And say a little time into slammer over there.
Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Yes, and so three miles from where I'm sitting approximately,
could be pieces of the Noah's Ark. That's that blows
my mind. I didn't know who he was, though, It's
my fault.
Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Just a podcast from two guys from Turkey. I had
to have a translator that was kind of new.
Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
I think I saw part of that. Actually, yes, I
did about five minutes of it, and I'm like, what's
going on? Because yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (01:40:18):
The podcast, mister Davis.
Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Uh no, I don't know that's okay called the translator. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
A lot went on in Turkey. It's it's an ancient place,
if that's if that's the place Ron White thinks he
found the arc. H that's uh there besides hat having
the outline of the arc in the mountain, it's there's
stone standing stones that appear to have uh supporting evidence
(01:40:54):
for that. The government of Turkey built them uh uh
a building there to receive tourists and stuff, and the he.
Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
Said the measurements were perfect. One of my neighbors riding
on bound a four wheler. I hope y'all didn't hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Ron White was a free thinker. Yeah, he wasn't tethered
by any particular belief other than that it said it
was there in the Bible, and that's what he went by.
But he was he was free to think, and he
didn't turn himself off when he got thought something unpopular.
Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
If I'm not mistaken, don't don't. Over here in this
little museum, they have some of the some of the
balls of melted like from Sodom and Gomora so for balls,
sofer balls. Yeah, yeah, y'all. This it looked when I
you know, how I found this out, y'all. So the
man passed away. His his the guy that you know
(01:41:59):
had is it now? He used to come in the
store all the time too. Uh, part of that family.
One of if y'all heard of David Rice Reese r
I E s. He has his studio here in Louisbourg
and he he y'all, I like to look that up.
But his name is David R. E I S. I
believe he bought a building and they he has a
(01:42:20):
YouTube show. It's uh, it's I think it's Christian, but
it but it looks at how history like what we're
talking about now, kind of hidden history and and and
and things that have been skewed. But I was sitting
here in my house a few years ago and missus
(01:42:41):
at the museum come on and I love that show.
And there we're here, we are We're in a little
town of uh, just outside of Corners, Tennessee. I'm like,
what are they doing here? And they were talking about
the White Museum and how and I started looking on
YouTube and I'm like, oh my god, I had I
talked to him for so much, so long, and I
(01:43:01):
picked his brain a little bit. But if I'd have known,
I would have I would have tried to learn more
from him. But anyway, that's just my's just one of
them stories. People call me Forrest Gump sometimes my kids do.
But I didn't know who I was talking to.
Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Yeah, well sometimes that's uh, that's okay. Uh, But now
you got inspiration, mm hmm. Maybe you will be the
next one to make a great discovery. I don't know
if he found where the Israelites crossed the Red Sea,
you know that got confirmed here recently down there and
(01:43:42):
saw and actually put their hands on that chariot wheels.
Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
Yes, I saw that. They want they uh they I
think they said they were so shocked because it's like
it's on the bottom and the closer they got to it,
it just came into view. There's a there's a chariot
wheel and it just can you imagine being explorer and
(01:44:08):
maybe not knowing the story is true, but you find
that you find the evidence for the rest of the world. Well,
I mean it's just like you, mkay, we just don't
sugarcoat in any you use what you did with the
Patterson Kimlin film helped all of us. So you know
I've not.
Speaker 6 (01:44:23):
Mentioned you and the Don Monroe did too with all
your research there.
Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Yeah, Dot Don is Uh, he's he's getting on up
there in age pretty good right now. I'm a little
concerned coming winter. He's, you know, burning wood like he's
thirty years old, back and forth into his little cabin.
Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
That keeps you young.
Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
What state does he live in?
Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Yeah, a lot of wood. Yeah it's very cold.
Speaker 6 (01:44:57):
Yes, sir, y up on what he hit now, you
got to keep it packed in.
Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
And you know, being he had a fire last year
that he managed to put it out use he don't
have running water, so he put it out with a
snow shovel and snow. But he breathed a bunch of
the sudden stuff in and he coughed. I'll tell you what,
(01:45:23):
he's tough as nails.
Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
There. There we go. Very acts man, very acts. It's
probably one of the smartest people. I kind of know,
it says. MK was on Turkish broadcast Believe in GreenWave
to twenty ten f B the Patterson Gimlt mystery four
days ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
I had no idea. I didn't get no link from him.
Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
I knew you were struggling a little bit the while
I was watching. I don't know if they even said
anything for a little while there. I think I don't.
I need to go back and watch it. I'm gonna
write that down now that I know, I'm gonna go
watch the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Well they were nice, now they weren't. They weren't they
were easy going.
Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
It's just tough when you have a language barrier. Wow. Okay,
So thank you very extent. We need need to get
very ax to us. Send write his write a story
and send it to me so I can read for everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
So, mister Davis, out of all of the stuff that
you've gone and done and explored and been a part
of videos and photos that you've analyzed, what are some
of your your favorite things that you've come across throughout
all your years of doing doing this, doing your research
and everything.
Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
I've had some that I come across just entirely by accident,
and to me, the happenstance fact. You know, I almost
want to laugh out loud. But I was. I was
watching this. I just thumbing through the internet and it
came on. I was watching it. It was the explosion
(01:47:15):
of the first atom bomb in a test out there,
New Mexico, and I was watching it and I looked
down at the bottom this huge, huge bird.
Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
I saw that on your channel.
Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
I think they were two miles away from that explosion.
So this bird had to be huge, and it was
desperately trying to grab air. You know, when your wings
touched the top and touch it them, Yeah, you're you're
really pulling. It seemed to just come right up out
of the earth, you know it. Uh, you couldn't tell
(01:47:54):
anything that was there to come out from behind. It
just appeared like it might have been in a cave
because that area, that area has caves, and.
Speaker 6 (01:48:05):
There's lots of legends of thunderbirds in that area.
Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
As well, in that area. Yeah, so that's what I
assumed I was looking at something like that because I
just don't think even an eagle would show up at
two miles, right.
Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
No, you know, I've seen eagles that you know probably
maybe I don't know how how they fly, but with
thenked eye, Uh, the only the only the only way
I knew it was a bald eagle was because when
it turned just right and the sun hit its head,
you know that that gave it away. Other than that
it looked it was tiny. So two miles Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Well, I'm not a thunderbird guy, you know, but my
thought I swear. My thoughts took me. I looked at
it over and over and over again, back and forth,
back and forth.
Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Are you the one that found that?
Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
Yeah, wow, do you have that video?
Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
I have it here somewhere.
Speaker 4 (01:49:02):
Oh, it's fine, we'll do a thunderbird show sometimes. I
saw it. It comes up and I'm like, that thing
has to be huge.
Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Let me see which hard drive it might be on,
because you know when before if y'all do see it,
So the blast is kind of center up and where
he's talking about, if I'm not mistaken, down at the
(01:49:35):
bottom of the screen, which most people are not going
to be looking there.
Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
They're looking at the blast. This bird, it's obviously a bird,
but it has to be massive.
Speaker 6 (01:49:46):
Yeah. I haven't actually seen that. I'll have to definitely
look that up after this show for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
Yeah. I mean I just happened to see it. I
didn't know you. I watched so much. I didn't realize it.
Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Is yours thunderbird atomic blast, and I think that's it.
Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
That might be it.
Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
I see here.
Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Hm hm, h.
Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
It's flapping its wings, it is.
Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
That's a big bird. Yes, and that's a lot of
thunder yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
Yeah, as he says, around here, that poor bird is
trying to get him some younger away from that.
Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
So this camera is two miles away from the blast.
Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Yeah mhm.
Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
H.
Speaker 4 (01:51:05):
And it's and if you notice, if you if you
watch the bigger birds, uh, you know, here would be
the buzzards or or whatever that shaped kind of like that,
like he said, if it's if it's reaching up and
bringing them down under and kind of there those wings
on a normal sized bird. You're not going to see that.
Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
No, no, uh that this thing as big as a
small plane.
Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
I don't think I saved the original, you know, I've
made this little little video. Let's see Thunderbird in atomic
blast and then another one. No, I still got the Aarron.
(01:52:00):
Oh well, maybe I can find it again. I was.
That's just one day a day of surfing on the internet.
Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
Can't that's a that's an ego eye right there. But
I guess you trained yourself though, right.
Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
It plagues me.
Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
So we got a guy that uh is not my problem.
A guy bumped into you in oak Ridge, Oregon. Or
I guess that's it. Uh Uh. So when you go
places travel the country, do you have people that recognize
you from your YouTube videos.
Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
I have at times. I went down on the coast,
the lady was started hollering at me. I was walking
on the beach and she was up on a balcony
restaurant cloud.
Speaker 4 (01:52:49):
That's awesome. Yeah, uh so very actually as uh I
wanted to read this, I don't. I don't know what
it says yet, but it's always good. You often explore
topics that challenge accepting narratives in your view. What's one
piece of history or evidence that you think deserves serious
re examination by mainstream researchers. Oh, you done opened up
(01:53:11):
a can of words now there.
Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
Yeah, that's a good one. I've had some recent recent
information on the Patterson film that has taken me in
a kind of a new direction on that. I'm still
I'm still, you know, kind of working on that. But
it had to do with Native Americans and what Native
Americans recognized in my in my my frames from the film.
(01:53:40):
You know there's a braid, a small braid on her.
Speaker 6 (01:53:43):
M h yeah, I remember you pointing that out.
Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
They recognized that braid to be to have a particular meaning.
Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Interesting, it's called it a scout block, but it's The
word that they use is a language from South America,
and the type of language, one word can mean an
entire sentence or thought or idea, and this one means
(01:54:13):
people from the other side of the mountain.
Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
Oh well.
Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
And then the other meaning is the one who knows
the way.
Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
And when I read that, then I knew that Patty
was was the one who knows the way. And right
up above her, up on the high peaks, there's two
peaks are the sacred peaks where the Hoopoe said that
(01:54:49):
that before us humans were here, there was another type
of human and they went back to the stars through
a hole in the sky from those two peaks.
Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
Wow. See, that's those stories like that. You start going
down and talking about the story people and people. I
found out just by talking to some of my friends
that I've met in the last year or so. I
(01:55:24):
started looking like, you know, I have the old negative
blood and other things and Neanderthal DNA and all that,
And then some of my buddies are like, you know,
you you might have blood memory. I was talking about
like feeling at home and wyoming and out and there
I felt at peace, and I started looking kind of
(01:55:45):
at myself and then you hear these stories like the
Old Negative suddenly appeared supposedly about thirty thousand years ago
or whatever. Personally, I think the timelines are off. But
that's another that's for another show, right. But I've the
(01:56:05):
the digging I've done. I'm at the mindset of the
puzzle pieces are there, but we stay so busy, and
they're scattered so far, and some of them are hidden.
It's hard to piece together. But when you get to
talking to people that know from different cultures, uh, sometimes
that brings things more into focus than anything else, because
(01:56:28):
those stories and those thoughts have been passed down for millennia.
So you know, you can grab you can grab any book,
you can grab the Bible, and you pick up a
Bible and read it, and you pick one up over here,
and it has some different differences, you know. So I
just feel like I've always had this feeling that the
(01:56:50):
timelines were off, And recently I've watched some I think
it was is Genesis Real and it showed how, Yeah,
showed how the Green Canyon could have been made in
two weeks. Because a lot of the change we've seen
in our lifetime with Mount Saint Helens or the floods
in the you know, the North Carolina Mountains and Tennessee Mountain.
(01:57:13):
A lot of that change happened suddenly and violently, and
these scientists were talking about the layer of rocks and like,
this is impossible unless it, you know, like a damnlet
loose or there was a flood and then the water
was receding and coming back and depositing this layer rock
and then receding and coming So it kind of fits
(01:57:35):
more of a biblical timeline than some of these, you know,
scientific theories. I don't know, I got off the rails
right there, but it's where it takes you. This is
these discussions.
Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
If you can imagine now she's if she is the
one who knows the way. They were originally I think
seven in her group, so she had six that were
following her to be shown the way to the other
side of the mountain. Uh. Also that word uh, when
(01:58:11):
you when you're talking about showing someone the way, it
was a secret way. That's that was the meaning of
the word they should she shows you the secret way. Ah.
Now if those Bigfoot may not have even supposed to
be there, Uh, they should have already gone to the stars,
(01:58:35):
through through the holes in the sky. What if what
if they were given another opportunity to go to get
them off, get them off the earth, and she was
the one who's going to take them there, to be
there on those peaks at a certain time, and then
(01:58:57):
they got interrupted it and they didn't make it.
Speaker 6 (01:59:03):
That could definitely be a reason why she turns back.
And she's not even really that bothered.
Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
She don't she don't try to take those She don't
want to take those two cowboys up there.
Speaker 6 (01:59:15):
No, Yeah, it's like I got places to go.
Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Just she takes off, but they get abandoned it. Maybe
it may be more than once. You know, if you've
got to be there at a certain time to take
advantage of of some method for returning to the stars
or reaching space or whatever. Then they didn't make it.
(01:59:43):
So they're still there, still have their problem.
Speaker 4 (01:59:48):
Yeah, I know one of there's a lot of amazing
things you've pointed out over the years, but I think
one of one of the things that made me set back,
like when I watched it for the first time, was
when she shows her teeth. You know, that's I don't
(02:00:10):
know what it was about that about that series of frames,
but I don't know. If it's the look on her face,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
It's extraordinary.
Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Bigfoot don't come out in broad daylight and show show
themselves right out in front of somebody, especially with guns.
H It's just not typical behavior. It's it's something extraordinary
going on. I think that people realize that in the beginning.
But uh, to find out a meaning for that, for
(02:00:49):
that braid, it's like it's almost like, you know, there's
there's priests in Egypt that wore a scaplock and they
had the rest of their head shaved who had a scatwalk.
Come right up out of here and go down and
(02:01:09):
it it was their their method of recognition, you know,
what what they did, what their duties were.
Speaker 4 (02:01:20):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
I think that is what you're seeing there. The Indians,
the Native Americans who saw that knew it. The elders
knew it. I mean they immediately identified it and they
used a South American word, you know, natives, native peoples
(02:01:43):
here in North America used the South American word that
had that odd, odd language that the one word men
at all.
Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
Right, Wow, well we're we're just over two hours. Oh yeah, no, yeah,
I mean I could talk to you forever, but I
know some people have to go to work in the
morning and all that. But yeah, we definitely I look
forward to seeing you again, wherever that is. I mean,
(02:02:17):
if you get over to Tennessee, just holler at me
and let me know and we could get out. And
I know, we went boogering another night with Cumbo and
some friends, and I was just amazed at some of
the calls and the knowledge that they were just passing
between each other, and uh, we're going tonight. We're gonna
(02:02:38):
go set recorders out tonight. I can only do so much,
but I appreciate people like you that that share the
knowledge and and sit down with us and the and
the audience and just put it out there. I mean, I.
Speaker 2 (02:02:58):
Sat there on the ground in last Camp nineteen two
thousand and and I heard chanting coming from those two peaks.
Oh wow, Wow, it's to at least two voices.
Speaker 4 (02:03:21):
That's Look, the more the more you dig into this,
the it's hard you keept put. It's hard to put
the brakes on. Right now, I've got I'm writing down
stuff y'all are saying, and I've got change.
Speaker 6 (02:03:33):
I actually pulled out well to start writing down.
Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
So so before we go, y'all, if y'all give me
about thirty minutes, if you look at at Roger Holler
on YouTube, I'm gonna go live on the way out
to the the Booger Woods and me and Peyton I
talked to you a little bit, but uh go check
(02:03:57):
that out if you would. That's that's something I'm doing
on the side, just for fun. And uh, I appreciate
all of y'all, Me and Amanda, you know, and Ashley.
I appreciate everybody. The support that we that we've gotten
has been unbelievable to us. And you know, thank you.
M k uh. You know. I don't say I grew
(02:04:20):
up watching your stuff because of that been that long,
but once again, your work has helped me because of
my situation and seend the big Foot and I've been
able to talk about it and and then seeing the
Patty film in a way that like, yes, thank you.
But I just every time I see you almost say
(02:04:40):
thank you and then I'll shut up.
Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
So we appreciate you. I appreciate you all too.
Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
So so everybody, this will be probably up on Spotify tomorrow,
probably around nine o'clock. Just if you want to rewatch
again and listen or share it with your friends. I
think a guest like MK. You know, there's a few
(02:05:07):
out there, but there are very few that have the
information and have put the time in that he has.
And if you have doubters, you know, go go back
to the original Squatching Holler page and that interview we
did where he broke down the Patty film was amazing
to me.
Speaker 6 (02:05:26):
That was really cool.
Speaker 4 (02:05:27):
That was three hours that sometimes I rewatch it myself,
So share that and some of you that don't know
about the old channel, it's a it's just typing Squatch
and Holler on YouTube and it'll carry you there and
go subscribe to MK channel. He don't remember what it's
called green Wave. There you go, there you go. All right,
(02:05:54):
Thank you everybody, Yes.
Speaker 6 (02:05:56):
Thank you everybody, and thank you again, mister Davis.
Speaker 4 (02:05:59):
Right yep, have a good night, y'all.
Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
Hey, I'm Nielma fan and I'm listening to to Squatch
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Let's try this again.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Hello, Hello, can you hear me now?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yes, hear me now. I always look up and see
that red and I'm like, oh, I've got the mic
turned off. How's it going everybody in chat? And Amanda,
I am doing good.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah, the chat is already rolling. We just lit live
and we already got forty five people in here. So yeah,
I'll try to keep Roger focused tonight. Wish me luck.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So Ashley's not with us tonight, she has some things
she had to take care of. Right off the bat.
You know, we're still at Gregg, still in the hospital.
He's doing better when you send prayers for him. And
then Grizzly Chris also one of our buddies. Uh, he
has you know, several shows he's he's had a heart attack. Also,
(03:13):
just any prayers would be appreciated for him, so absolutely. Yeah.
So you know this, we all do this stuff, and
and some of us get into it deeper than others.
But when it comes down to it, you know, family
and health and everything is more important. But but yeah, y'all,
thank y'all for tuning in. I've been looking forward to
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this since our last interview with mister Davis. And right
at the end he said something about talking about giants.
I'm like, oh yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
We were just barely getting started last time. I'm very
excited to Yeah, this evening.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
And y'all we're gonna we're gonna do the We're gonna
do the trivia right quick. Uh, just we we like
doing that and has something to do with where our
guests live the area or whatever, and let's let's do
this cheesy stuff. All right, here's the question for Amanda.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Alrighty, so tonight's trivia. What Mississippi River legend describes a
massive snakelike creature said to lurk in the Yazoo River
near Vicksburg, Mississippi.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Thanks thanks AI for messing that up.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
I'll say that a type.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Anybody MK probably knows the answer is the Yazoo Yazoo
River Monster, sometimes called the Vicksburg Serpent. There's all kinds
of stuff out there that we don't.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
There's so much out there, it's crazy, Like the more
I keep going in, there's like the more that keeps
popping up that I've never heard of. And it's just
it's so awesome that, you know, every place seems to
have something. So there's definitely more to heaven and Earth
and what we've been told, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, And you know we have history, hidden history, forgotten history,
history that's been swept under the rug. And when you start,
I'm gonna go through this quickly. When you start digging
into this subject, you find old newspaper clippings of twelve
and fifteen and twenty foot giants and there's one Tennessee
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twenty feet in length the skeleton. This is in Williamson County,
just one county north for me. And we have, you know,
a quote from Abraham Lincoln, the eyes of the eyes
of that species of extinct giants whose bones feel the
mounds of America have gazed on Niagara we as ours do.
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Now you know, could he be talking about the dinosaurs
or could he? I mean, what's found in the mounds.
You know, we know that there have been bones found
in the mounds and hundreds of reports of being sent
to the Smithsonian or somewhere else, and they just disappear.
And for those of you, and Amanda's got a whole book,
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it's like.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
A whole book library started on this stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And I had somebody, Amanda, say, uh, you believe in
all that stuff? You know, we were we had just
come out of church, and I'm like, well, I believe
there are records written, records from beginning of time, I
ain't never seen nothing. And then I brought this up
like David versus Glas and his four brothers. You know,
(06:36):
he he took care of them later. So we'll we'll
get to our guest here because I know he's he's
probably got a lot to talk about. And he he's
actually gone to uh was a Lovelock cave and found
bones and.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Yes, the famous Lovelock cave.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yes, So let's bring mister Davis on. How you doing,
mister Davis? All right, how are you good? I'm glad
that you're back with us. We had a great time
last time, a very informative three hours and uh we
we actually our thumbnail. I used the picture of my
son took when I was talking to you at the
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at the conference in Tennis, you know mcmanville, and I
just hate I didn't get to go to supper with
y'all our southern term but you know it was a
little too late. But uh yeah, it's it's been uh
it's been fun. And just welcome back to Squatch and holler.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
All right, I'm glad to be back.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
So how did okay, we know the Patterson Gimlin film
piqued your interest in You spent you know, years, uh
going over that and and and and making it where
we all could look at it ourselves, you know, and
and breaking down that film. How did you get into
(07:59):
the oh yeah, happy birthday? Okay, we've got somebody wished
you happy birthday in chat.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I was about to be I was gonna not jump
in on conversation there with it.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, so how did you get into the giant subject?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I think I think it's a kind of one of
the natural course of things. Now once you once you
get into Bigfoot, and Bigfoot is confirmed, at least in
your own mind, Well, then if Bigfoot's real, what else
is really? Yes, sir, you know it's got the added
(08:39):
that added uh part about the coming from the Bible
with David and Clive, which is a huge thing.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah. And you know, we doing a little research, I
found that I think I've heard this before, but the
one of videos and reading that I did leading up
to this show, I was shocked to find out how
big people were in the old days. We've we've gotten
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smaller and we in our life lifespans have gotten shorter,
and there are records of people being you know, twelve
to eighteen feet tall at one point. So I don't
know what happened in the timeline, but something definitely happened.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well from what I can tell, it's it's not a
it's not when the when Native Americans first came here,
I first migrated here, there was already giants here. That's
what I gather. Giants. Giants we're talking. We're not talking
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about six foot three being a giant. We're talking about
eighteen to twenty foot maybe more. And everywhere everywhere there
was a giant. Native Americans prospered, They thrived because they
they depended on the giants. The giants were mentally sharp
(10:18):
and physically outfitted, and they kind of ruled the roost.
And then after a while there came to be demi gods,
what they call a demi god, which is mixed blood
fathers a giant, mothers a human. There's several of them
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mentioned in history books. One of them is Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yes, I forgot about that. She was chief Tuscaloosa was
a big, big man.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah. Let me read what I've got in as one
of the Spanish quotes if I can find it here.
All right, here we go, says the giant. Tuscaloosa, whom
de Soto met in the Kusa Valley, was a Choctaw chief.
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Now that's a little bit of a misnomer because Tuscaloosa
the name means black warrior. And he was very, very
dark skinned. He was not of the same. He had
Indian in him, but he he was the dark part.
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The giants were dark skinned. You know, Indians came in
on them when they migrated here. Uh that. It's not
a lot of them, not a lot of the pure
purebred giants. More Demi gods than that. Uh Pihattan. And
you might remember the father of Pocahontas mhm. He had
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one hundred tribes paying tribute to him.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And he that's how he got into it with the
Pilgrims is because he considered them another tribe. He wanted
them to pay pay tribute, and they refused, and so
he sends his The next plan B was to send
his daughter over there and try to get married to
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one of them. So she goes over there. You may
not have heard this, but she takes her clothes off
and turns cartwheels. And it must have worked because she
ended up getting married to one up wow.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So let me get this straight. So the bones that
have been found in the mounds were probably leaders of tribes.
And is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I don't, I don't know. You know those things, most
of those things were ancient when they were dug out,
they were already ancient.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
We had two mounds here in my hometown of Yazoo
City when they started the town. They're gone now. They
have a street called Mound Street. And these were These
were not like your round mounds or your or pyramid mounds.
These were oblong, we different shaped. And they took them
(13:31):
down a little at a time. They didn't have bulldozers,
so they used meals and slips and took them down,
used the dirt for other things, and got down into
the mound real good. They dug up giant bones. Uh.
These bones were the bones of huge people. And they
they deteriorated rapidly when they when the air got to them.
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The Yazoo Indians that they named our town after actually
lived out there too, the mouth of the Yezi River
above Vicksburg. And they they lived there. They were from
somewhere else. They weren't from around here, and they lived
there along with ofo Gulas, which they call them the
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dog people, and they were from Ohio. All these Indians
got ran out from up north by the Iroquois Confederation.
So but they all knew about the giants. And I
have a book called it's called in the Hands of
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the Great Spirit, twenty thousand years of Native American presence
in North America, and it's got quite a bit to
say about giants. One in particular, po Sayemo, you ever
heard of him? No, sir, that's and I'm kind of
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halfway inclined to think that that handprint that we found
in that cave might have been him, because that's the
direction they headed looking for him. They wanted him to
get them out under Spanish bondage, and they sent a
party out at night, and they traveled two weeks due
(15:23):
north and they found Posiamo. Posamo planned their rebellion against
the Spanish, which was successful, and they ran the Spanish
out to Mexico and didn't see him again for one
hundred years. Wow, they were celebrating Posamo.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
So it just amazes me of the history that's hidden.
It's not just for John's but I will define after
this start getting some books that you recommend because I
want to know, I want to learn what's been hidden
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from us, so you know, good graces.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Some things the history people who put those books together
thought they were inappropriate, like her turning cartwheels naked, so
they just didn't mention it. But that's actually what she
did to get a husband out of the Pilgrims group,
and uh appeared to work, but it wasn't considered to
(16:36):
be inappropriate by the Native American standards. It was it
was standard fair what you do, right, Yeah, and they
probably were astonished.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, impressed, and.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
He wanted them to come under his his authority Alhattan
and and pay an annual tribute. So you know, it's
that's all. Uh you know that it sounds it's it's
it's if it sounds too uh tow he say, cleaned
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up the the you know what history books say about it.
That's because it is uh, you know, it wasn't nearly
that that clean. Uh uh you know. A meeting between them,
and they brought food the next day and they all
had good time, but it was it was conniving planning,
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getting to know a person. Uh. How Hatten he must
have been something he was He was like Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
He was.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
He was just he wasn't as tall as to say,
a purebred giant, but he was a heck of a guy.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So for the people just coming in, what what height
would we consider a giant at? You know, would it
be about eight or nine feet or because I know
we're talking about a lot bigger than that. But you know,
there are rare cases where humans have gotten that big
(18:15):
in recent history. But they have a usually have a disease,
and there are telltale signs of that, and some of them,
some of them been studied, they don't have that. They're
they're like eight foot, you know, seven and a half
foot or whatever. So when we're talking about these giants,
are we are we talking nine foot or better?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well, probably most likely we're there. I've got one on
video that's probably exceeds nine feet what it was taken
out there in East Texas. Wow, I didn't know what
to make of it. I call it tall, Paul. I
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could see that it was tall. I went out there
and I could see for me being there that he
was saturate. It was top way holler than the other bigfoot.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Do you have a way of showing that or do
you want.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
To or oh, I'll be happy to hold on just
a minute.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Here do I need to send you?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think there's something you do on your end, but
we'll see.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Let me go to share.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Okay, share screen, Yeah, let.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Me h, mine's not show it.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Let me click on it and see sharing screen. I
remember we did it last time.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't the words are down below off.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
So I invite you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
What symbol I'm on. I think I've got it on share,
but I don't know if positively. Yeah, okay, here we go.
Share screen was just a guess there we got.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
My daddy always said I'd rather be lucky as good
any day.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Okay, I'm on Share, So you'll have to do something
on your end. I'm not sure what that is.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You got right to it. Now let me go back
and forget this one tall Paul. This was taken with
a camera of not that great a quality. It's a
(20:34):
security camera of the of the time period of around
the turn of the century two thousand around in that
time period.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
It's crazy to think about the year two thousand that
is turn of the century, because when I think turn
the century, I still think like, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
This is this is without Tall Paul. Is they're filming
into a mirror.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You'll see these two right here on the on the
side over here, they're they're they're having an alter case.
Let me still do it again. It's on the right
side of the screen right in here. Okay, Now I
cut it in two and did both of them separately
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because Tall Paul comes out and runs them off.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Uh, let me find Tall Paul. Now, Tall Paul seven
twenties and.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
There he is right here.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Is that a Dutch barn or barn?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's all just a looks like just a farm, a
barn and a farm. I was there. I went there.
That roofline right there is nine nine and a half
feet off the ground.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
It looks like the head is higher than another foot
over that right.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Oh, I'll tell you this sucker's big.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah. Ess actually starting to look familiar to me? Is
this the fence jumper?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's in that same area, the same it's the same
garden and everything. This the lady told me that this
one is not not a regular there. He he's only
there every now and yet. But he came out and
stopped these two from fighting. And they ran them off
and then it runs out right there.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Look at the distance between the legs. I don't know.
When it takes a step, it looks like it's limping.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's limping or dragging, dragging its foot for some reason,
I don't know. When I first came across this video,
I didn't have any explanation with it. I didn't know
what understand full of what I was looking at. Now
I got a hold of one of the guys whose
camera it was, and uh, they explained it to me.
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You got to remember that they had no intentions of
ever showing this video. Uh, it got into my hands
through a third party.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
What's the approximate distance from the camera to the subject.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I just had to guess or look for some photos
that I have.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Oh, you're good, but I mean maybe in there, I
guess I'll.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Say it more like this. It's uh, it's how how
much taller would it be than me? If I was
standing there with him? Yeah, so I tell you I
would be looking like this.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So the doorway usually watched seven foot and to walk
into that barn and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
This came from this dude came from I'm going by
what I was told by the lady that that lived there,
that he came from the Kaimichi's, the mountains north of there.
He was just a sojourner. He'd come through and stay
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a little while and be gone. So all the rest
of them weren't this tall. He would be the equivalent
of Tuscaloosa, you know, all the rest of the Indians
were normal size. Yeah, he's way up above all the
rest of them. Some people refer to him as mountain giants.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
So we know, just looking at historic accounts where a
lot of the like the pirates would go to a
new land and and and come up on giants and
different and different on different continents. So this is this
is something that's it's just been going on for forever actually,
(25:12):
and why is it so hard for I mean, I
know they're not walking downtown right now, that there's a
lot of places from the stay just like the Bigfoot,
But yeah, I'm just blown away. That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well yeah, yeah, that's that's uh. Like I said, I
when you see stuff like that, uh it's uh. I
I was I didn't know what to think of it, right,
you know. Uh, you know, first of all, your you
(25:51):
have to kind of get your get your mind and
adjusted to the bigfoot actually existing, right, and then something
like this steps out.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Well, you know this is speculation, but you know what
if people see one of those and and mistakenly call
it a bigfoot, they get a you know, a two
or three second glance at something like this, that would
be the only thing mine. You know, five years ago,
my mind would have went to bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
But that's me right here now. Now maybe you know
it makes a difference perspective wise, but even with the
perspective adjusted for this dude is huge.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Wow, that really does give a comparison of size.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Well, if you look at that farm gate that it's
right there, and y'all know how tall those are. Those
are about not quite under up to my under arms.
But that's at his lower part of his hip or
under his rear end, and he's out from that. He's
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not standing beside it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, I said that he had he's been seen before.
That wasn't the first time.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Ah, But you say he was. They said that he
was kind of breaking up a fight, like he was.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, he was breaking up a fight. It was a
white one and a more a darker one and they
were fighting. What they were fighting over. Believe it or not,
was a set of tires, old tires that had been
staked out in this garden, and they they were just
(27:45):
obsessed with them, and the Bigfoot were fighting like mad
over man, That's what the fence jumper was doing, was
trying to get to those tires.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Those tires had been pulled in there by the researchers.
They had a few. Call it habituation. I'm more I
kind of favor maybe provocateurs. They found whatever would stimulate
them to reveal themselves or do something right, and they
would keep on doing it and try to get them
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on camera. Uh. This this thing with the tires started
way back on the back end of the men's property.
Uh you know an old bridge that people had thrown
the tires out, and the researchers had realized they were
being thrown about at night, so they got them and
chained them all up together, and the Bigfoot got really
(28:42):
mad about it.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Is the same place. Go ahead, Amanda, I was just
going to make.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
A tease, say they took their toys away and tied
them up basically.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, yeah, I don't know if there's toys or religious
about them or what the fact that it's a circle.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
True.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, they made circles with rocks too.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Now, I think when you first started doing this it
was years ago. Is this the same spot where they
had a camera into the mirror?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yes? This matter of fact, you're looking into the mirror.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Oh and it's okay, I got you and that and
and I guess the thinking of that is they don't
see the camera pointing at them mm hm. Basically, so
that was.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Uh, they were aware that the cameras did something because
they would come up behind them and tap them with
their fingernails.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But they didn't want they didn't want to walk in
front of the camera.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
And this is it, this is you said, this is Texas.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, how.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Hold on all this? When they tammy said? She said,
while one of the assistant Spurs coaches ex player, came
to my house once and I thought he was tall. Yeah.
So some of those guys, you know, I've stood beside
NFL lineman. They're probably six seven, six eight, you know,
(30:18):
two seventy five to three twenty and not an ounce
of fat on them, and you feel very small. Besides
one of those guys, you had another four or five
foot and more masks, it'd be terrifying.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, this is is a whole lot. We don't know
about these things, you know. It's it's uh, even if
you got the best and the most data and the
latest data, you're still lacking a lot. Yes, you know,
they're just hard to hard, uh to get any kind
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of extended view of you know, for a length of
time and getting in the quality and all. That's hard
to hard to get him in good quality. Uh. If
if you watch let me go back down here again
without wits here he is, you'll see that a shimmers
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You ever heard anybody talk about Bigfoot kind of going
in and out and shimmering. Watching watch him there, you'll
see he'll be this part right here will disappear and
then it'll come back, and then the lower part will
disappear and it'll come back, and then at the end
at all, at all you can see the whole thing.
But uh, I don't know myself what's causing that seem mka.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I've collected a hair over a year ago. A doug
has it now, but it's uh, it's black at the
base and it's uh it's clear as fiber optic for
another two inches and they're gonna yes there. And what happened.
One of my buddies down in North Alabama had something
tried to open his door, and I went down there
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the next day and found greasy hairprints on the door
and went around found the hair preserved that and hopefully
we'll get that analyzed, maybe maybe this week. But but uh,
with that hair being the way it is, I've talked
to a few well known researchers that's been studying this,
and the the.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Clear the.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
How would I put it. The black would make it
hard to see the outline and low light conditions, and
then what light was there, it would kind of blur it,
so to speak. And you would think it would matter
what angle that was at. So as that thing is
walking and changing angles with the camera, that might be
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what's causing that. Now that's that speculation from you know.
But the districtions it made it made sense and and
of course me being me, I threw the question into
AI what advantage it would give an animal and I
explained exactly what it looked like with the hair, and
it said it would make it hard to photograph in
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low light conditions or video because of the disbursement of
the ambient light and the black uh hiding the outline.
So I don't know if it's true or not, but
it's it's very interesting. Uh, I've got it. I'll send
you a diagram later on messenger and let you look
at it. But but you know, we we see these things.
(33:44):
You've got video right here. Uh, there's several videos. And
somebody pointed out with the Freeman footage, doesn't it kind
of uh get fade out a little bit at one point?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's lots of strange news in that video.
It there's also a point where it appears to pick
up a small one and uh, you've add all that together.
That's that's got to be at number two video. Yeah,
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behind the Patterson film.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
And I agree with you on that, mister Davis. The
mister Freeman's film, I call it the oh there he
goes film of a that's one of my absolute favorites.
And I agree that it's second in line there to
Patty because there's so much antecdotal evidence with that. You know,
he got prints afterwards. You know there's the the audio
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where because he was able to capture his reaction because
you know, unlike the PG film, they didn't have audio,
so you know, just all of it is there. It's
definitely one of my top faves for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And if I'm not mistaken that the formed foot that
was from that sighting also, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Uh you're talking about the cripple foot. No, that was
uh in Bossburg, Washington.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Okay, Okay, That's where I got confused, because what was
wild about that report? In those tracks? They found those
tracks way away from there. It was the same, you know,
like a year or two later or a time span,
and they casted tracks and it matched up to that one,
I believe if I've got that report right, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Maybe it has a sense similar similar problem, whether it's
foot or something. Yeah, I imagine they have their fair
share of foot problems, you know, with all the weight
on them and everything. And of course they got probably
a big old fit pad you know on the bottom
you developed that. Yeah. Even as a kid, I used
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to go barefooted. My fate got to Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What we would do that down here too, you know,
we uh, we get My mom would feed us breakfast
and then push us out the door for the whole day.
So and we were we weren't in town. So we
would sneak into the spring house and get a drink
of water, and it was a good time. But uh,
that's that's okay. Let me ask you this. So somebody
brought up hold on, uh the Stacey Brown Senior, do
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you have a top five videos of Bigfoot king?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I can. I can tell you that the top three
I think, Okay, I think the Patterson film and the
Freeman footage and then the Mississippi Skunk.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
Yes, that one is that that's another great one.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's it's the duration is outstanding for that one. Most
of the time they don't last but just a second
or two. And he says, sat there, he didn't know
what he was filming. Right, You could hear him under
his breath, you know what, which is about what anyone
would do.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
And that one's interesting too because again with the audio,
besides hearing him talking, you can actually hear the skunk
ape the power of it as it's ripping the stuff
out of that tree, just the what's the word I'm
looking for concussive sound as the inside of the bark
and the tree is breaking apart. Well, I think that's
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really fascinating with that particular video.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
And if you've ever tried to gather firewood at a
campsite or out like we used to, you know, fish
at night on the creek banks and people. That's that's
a good point, Amanda, because I've tried to rip stuff
like that and it's almost impossible with human strength. And
then when you see something effortlessly, just separate something that
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that goes. That's part of the observation of videos, when
you see something that you know that you couldn't do yourself,
but whatever the subject is in the video has no
trouble with it.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I mean, well, that's kind of what you want out
of a video of a big foot. You want something
doing something that a regular person couldn't do. Rightybody knows
those cypress trees, they'll they'll get a hollow in the side,
but still be living on the outside. And what he
did was pull a plank off of that living part,
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just split it and pull it off and threw.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
It in the water over there, and no effort.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I went out and try found me one just about
like that and film I got my friend to film me,
and I snatched, and I snatched on it with all
my might and I could I couldn't I couldn't even
make it make a sound, you know, like it was
going to.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
It's probably still there intact, an't it. Mister? Yeah. So
you know, having a little bit of outdoors experience. I'm
not talking about being a tracker whatever. If you spend
any amount of time outdoors, it helps you when you
look at some of these videos, some of the you know,
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some of the little trees that are bent. You know,
I think we might have talked about this last time.
I'm slow and one day I realized, I'm like, you know,
how could this happen? And I'm like, you know, we
used to do that when we were smaller. We'd climb
a tree and write it down, so, you know, speculating
what could cause it. Like kids don't get out and
do that anymore. You know, maybe the little ones go
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up and and do that. So you know, it's just
like I said, I haven't seen one do that. But
when you get into this subject, when you see a
big foot yourself, when you start questioning everything, like MK
said earlier in the show, you start trying to think
out outside the box, what could cause this? What could
cause that? And it kind of gets you kind of
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have to break if you ever had to step away,
mister Davis and just kind of come back to it later.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh well, I was called sleeping on the problem. Yeah.
Sometimes that's a good method for solving because you get
too into it. It's almost like it's in your face
and you need to back away and kind of look
at the whole thing think about it a little bit.
(40:38):
Appears to work good that way. You know. I've solved
some problems like that.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
So here's a question I keep. The question is you
have any thoughts on the Independence Day video. Now I
get that confused because I thought the Independence Day video
was the one that was caught running across the ridge
just low the edge in the green grass. And then
now I've seen it refer to the one that the
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female is carrying the baby that runs out Okay, it
runs out behind the rock, and.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
The other one is called the Memorial Day.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Oh okay, okay, that's all right. It was probably ten
fifteen years in between that I heard, you know reference.
So now the one with the Independence Day I don't know.
If I contacted you years ago, you wouldn't have known
who I was. But I was looking at that video
over and over and over, just like the Zapruder fan.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
So I'm the one that I took gaming headphones and
turned the sound up, and just before she breaks and run,
it sounds like the baby makes a noise and kind
of blows their cover. It's a little wine And I
don't know if that's true or not, but you can
hear it in the original video, like before she exposes herself,
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because I'm thinking, why would she you know, me being me,
why would she spoke with herself like that? Well, when
I turned the sound up, I heard like a whimper,
and after that whimper she boked. So I don't know
whether she thought her she was, you know, cover was
blown or whatever. But that's that's just I get curious
about something and I try to dig into as much
(42:17):
as I can, but I don't know if that's what
happened or not.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Well, remind me where was that taken.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
I don't remember. I don't remember it was.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Somewhere in the PMW, but I can't remember exactly where either.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I would like to go over some and do some
research into locations of some of these better films and
see if there's any kind of similarities in the type
of terrain or or is it more generally widespread, you know,
(42:58):
And that to me, it uh wasn't whether there's an
awful lot of data that a person could get into.
You know, it's it's time consuming to do that. Sometimes
data pays off.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah, and you know, and also it would be good
to point out whether the sightings ramp up for three
months out of the year, you know, versus the other
nine months or whatever. Like just say maybe you have
a travel a way or the food supply whatever's and
(43:37):
you know that's that's there and available, or maybe it's
a place where they they go and have their young
they're young and and do that and then and go back.
Because I've taken reports I have we have a place
here that uh now is the time where we have activity.
You know, in summertime when it's ninety eight degrees high humidity,
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we have nothing and moves. It's close to the river.
But we got a phone call tonight that there was
a scream heard by a neighbor and they don't know
what it is, they don't know what we do. It
was just an innocent telling another neighbor. And we got
a phone call and said, you know, so we're going
out there to put recorders out tonight, so after the show.
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But you know, you can't help when you get into
this to try to figure out the puzzle. It's so hard.
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Locate a file here. You just keep on talking there.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
All right, Amanda, you have any thoughts on the giants?
I know you read books and stuff.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Oh, It's definitely been a subject that I've had some
interest in for a very long time. Again, you know,
just starting with the obvious one that you mentioned, you know,
David and Goliath, and you know, I always hear people
talk about that, you know, I grew up in church
all the time, in Sunday school hearing about it all
the time. And then come to find out later that
(45:09):
you know, there's reports of giants in modern day and
by modern day I mean uh not b C kind
of kind of reports. And uh, then you dig again,
you dig in a little bit more, you dig in
a little bit more, and then all of a sudden,
these newspaper articles start popping up or these reports of
(45:33):
you know, the Indian mounds and everything. So it's a
very interesting subject matter to me. And again, I think
a lot of it is just I'm just gonna say
it is. I just think a lot of it is
some hidden history that has been hidden from us, and
there's got to be reasons why to it. And that's
my tenfoil hat for the day.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah. Well, you know this this video that I run
up on, I was so shocked. It didn't shocked me
that it's in Tennessee. It just shocked me how close
it was. Just this creek is right over here. I
knew there were mounds in this area. But and you know,
when my uncle and them used to plow and disk
(46:15):
the land up for tobacco season. We would wait for
the first rain and we would hit the fields and
you you could just pick up our heads and artifacts.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
Like same down same down here right where I where
I grew up at the like a couple of houses down.
The guy had a huge cornfield and every time that
he would plow him or him my brothers and my dad.
I never got to go, of course, but yeah, they
would go collect arrowheads from things. And I've seen some
(46:49):
interesting ones that people have brought in that are, you know,
way bigger than than my hand. So it's like, what
would you use to hunt hunt with that big old
thing for?
Speaker 4 (46:59):
And but what's good about this subject. Everybody in chat,
people that will listen later, is you can. You can
start digging right after the show and it's not hard
to find. It's out there.
Speaker 6 (47:14):
Now. There's tons of videos on YouTube about it that
people are making, several low budget documentaries you can find
on different streaming services. Thanks Catherine. Yeah, so those the
other night you miss, I was wearing a tinfoil hat,
like a literal tinfoil hat for Halloween the other night.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Would would y'all like to see a giant's head? Yes? Please?
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I think so. I'm the chicken.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Let me tell you the story of this head. Okay,
in Lovelock Cave when when the Smithsonian said they sent
some guys, but it's not really fair. They really didn't
have much of anthropology department at all. One of the
guy came from the Smithsonian was nineteen years old. The
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other guy, they call him an anthropologist, but he was
a missionary. He was training to go to Africa and
then he got word of Lovelock Cave. He was in
the Phoebe Hurst School of Anthropology at Berkeley. So he's
(48:25):
bunking up with Ishi, the very last wild Indian, you know,
the last of his tribe. You've seen the movie, no
doubt it used to become Graham Green in it. Anyway,
he gets word of it, so he starts pen Palin
(48:47):
at least Herlishka from the Smithsonian and the heat Healishka
talks him into going out there with meeting Darrington out there.
So his his name is Llewelly and loud. He's totally untrained,
but so is so is Darrington. But anyway, they they
(49:11):
meet out there and they start to dig, and they
start finding all kinds of stuff, and they and and
they even found the mummies back then, but they were
instructed to rebury them.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
And uh wait they found mummies here, No, in Lovelock Cave.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Uh taught really like gigantic mummies. Okay, okay, Well they
go on hiatus. You know they're they're doing this without
without funding.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
So they go on hiatus and the townspeople from Lovelock
come out there and they dig and they dig up
this huge mummy which it's it's not just a skeleton,
but it has dried up flesh.
Speaker 6 (50:03):
On it and true money, and.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
They take it and they boil it and they drink
the liquor in a civic organization ceremony.
Speaker 6 (50:18):
Why you believe that.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
I've got it in a book. But before they boiled
it got some person chopped its head off, and that
head stayed hidden and somebody, somebody had it hidden until
nineteen twenty two and they couldn't stand it anymore, and
it made it into a newspaper. And I have a
(50:45):
copy of it. You want to see the head, Yeah,
you want to try to get a head. That's it.
You could make out some hair. The quality is pretty low.
I actually improved this quality a little bit. It was
(51:08):
much worse than this. But look how many teeth it's
gott I don't see.
Speaker 6 (51:13):
I'm literally about to say that. It was like, look
at how many teeth are in that mouth?
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Anthly has a dentition problem. You can see where they
whacked it off, their solt it off.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Yeah, and that's one thing I was you know, I
did not know until this past couple of weeks that
a lot of them, the skeletons, they've had six fingers
and toes and a double row of teeth, which is
very well, I mean them being twenty foot talls odd enough.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
But do Monroe photographed a one with double rows of
teeth about forty five years ago in the basement of
the Humboldt Museum. Win a mucker. You seen it, haven't?
Have you seen it? No? I have not. Let me
see if I can find that one for you. And
(52:08):
it's a true I mean, this is a big son
of a gun. And now they deny they ever had it.
Speaker 6 (52:15):
Of course they do.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Let's see here, giant skeleton, giant skull. That's what I
look for.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
And for y'all that are listening on Spotify in the
near future, you can come to Untold Radio Network on
YouTube and check us check out the pictures and the videos.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
There. It is on the left there they's still got
Baguano stains on it.
Speaker 4 (52:55):
So we've got a normal humans goal on the right.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
And then that's a page. Okay, this is a really
big guy. Wow, the size of his eye eyes, I know.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
And I'm looking at the top the top row of
teeth and how wide that top lip must showed?
Speaker 2 (53:15):
That shows the double row a little better?
Speaker 6 (53:18):
Oh yeah, how like strong The cheek area is too,
is very interesting.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Also, over crowding, over crowding of the bottom a demandible.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Looks like it's kind of pushing them to the center.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Which is what we saw on that chopped off one,
you know, the chopped off head.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Right Wow, that's yeah, uh you been. Oh actually that's
what I was Amanda was talking about, and I noticed
that too. I'm thinking that's dense, that's built very well.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
But if you look at this right here, the demandible,
you'll see an unusual thing about it that identifies where
it's from, where the heritage, where it came from, and
as far as it's DNA. What do you see unusual?
Speaker 6 (54:15):
Well, one, it has a very strong jawline and very
strong and by strong I mean like size wise. The
my generation younger would say he has a giga chat
kind of chin. But yeah, I am, I am, I
seeing a point you're getting I'm getting close. Okay, it
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looks like it's coming to a point.
Speaker 8 (54:43):
There you go, you're getting even closer. That's uh, that's
what they call a rocker jaw. Okay, that's a that's
an exclusively Polynesian trait.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
Oh. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yes, So this dude right here is a giant and
he heralds from somewhere out in Polynesia out there, wow south.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
That's and you know, the the Polynesians are known for
their their warriors being really tough and strong and probably
some of the just in guy terms, some of the
baddest dudes on the planet anyway. And you get a
guy that's double or triple the size, he would be
(55:38):
a terror, I imagine if you want to.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
I don't know if you've ever read anything about the
Solomon Islands and the giants they have on those islands.
Still to this day, they find their tracks.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Uh did you Okay? I was watching YouTube show a
couple of months back, and I think you and mister
Ron Moorehead were on, and did y'all You said, y'all
found a track that was about twenty twenty two inches long.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I think the one that he found at the ser
camp was twenty four inches up.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
Twenty four Okay, Wow.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
That's that's a really monstrous track. You get that heavy,
then you start to see changes in the anatomy, right,
you know, to adjust for the weight. Yeah, they walked differently.
I had a description by a biologists of that when
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you get beyond a certain weight, you have to change
the way you walk. You have to try to keep
your legs under you more.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
It's take the pressure off the joints and ligaments maybe.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah, that and whatever, just the weight picking it up.
If you extend your leg out, Uh, well then you've
got to you've got to push off and and reach
that point of full crumb right and come back over.
It gets very difficult to do when you're trying to
weigh all that much, you know. H we're not talking
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about just a few pounds. Were talking about a lot.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
And if I think it was you, I believe that
talked about the muscle density. Then we talk about like
so if you have one of our muscles and you
take one, there's it's probably two or three times more dense.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
It's it's twice as dense. At least. If you look
at a big foot and you say he looks like
he weighs six hundred pounds, you can double that.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
Wow, this.
Speaker 6 (58:01):
Go ahead, okay, yeah, question real quick before we change gears.
So this gentleman calling him gentlemen the skull here being Polynesian,
what my brain is the wheels turned into my brain
right now is a lot of the giants and other
things that were found there in Lovelock Cave, what most
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of them red headed per se, or at least what
some they did find am I correct remembering that. Okay.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
The reason I'm thinking that necessarily red headed, but red.
Speaker 6 (58:35):
Haired, red haired gotch.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
I had a meeting with the Paiutes and they were
very adamant about that, that it's there that they were
red hair, not just red headed gotcha.
Speaker 6 (58:48):
Okay. The reason I mentioned that or was just wanting
to double check my facts there was because I'm just
thinking most Polynesian people, at least as far as in
modern days, most of them are you know, slightly you know,
chestnut skin with mostly very very dark hair. So just
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trying to.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
Think you that, yeah, that is a difference there. Maybe
somebody can weigh in on that that knows a little
bit about what hair happens to hair.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
So some of the reports that I've read on the
different continents, a lot of the giants had red hair,
so and I know, I think that's one of the
rarer colors, right, it's close to black.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Amongst amongst the normal humans on the planet, I think
it's mostly nor Nordic vikings had red hair, red hair
and green eyes, or red hair and blue eyes.
Speaker 4 (59:57):
And they even encountered some giants had you know, had
to do battle or run.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Yeah, there was a lot of giants in their mythology
and folklore as well.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
But I think they said they found some over here.
They called them scalings, and historians just explain away, you know,
the word. They don't really go into trying to figure
out what they were talking about. But they said that
the scraalings had dark eyes, and it was so bad
(01:00:30):
that they could they couldn't move inland hardly. You know.
They stayed out there on the there, on their little
peninsula out there, and took the wind and the rain
and all ah. There was some that did go inland.
I saw the Heathen ear stone. You ever heard of
the Heathen ear stone? Sounds from me off the top
(01:00:51):
of my head, I can't remember. It's on the Arkansas River.
It's got Nordic riding on it in an old style
that goes way back. Uh, it's it's Uh. They were
able to interpret it and they said it's it's a landmarker.
It says it belongs to Garth.
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I don't think it's Garth Brooks.
Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
I have to say, who's Garth? Which Garth we're talking
about here?
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Uh? Well, here's some here's some giant footprints or giant
in size dimension. That's about a mile away from Lovelock
A and uh, let me get to some better angles
and stuff. There's one right there. These are twenty inches.
Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Okay, wow, good one night there, one night there?
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
See that one.
Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Yeah, it's that's deep.
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I'm running out of battery.
Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Yeah. Are these something that y'all found?
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Yeah? I like that hat. They looked liked here a
couple of weeks old, all right right here, and another
one right here.
Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
Okay where the sand does dirt there looks really rocky
as well too. So it's very interesting that that left
as deep and as big a footprints in that terrain
as it did.
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
That's a whole track way.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
You couldn't walk up the road to. You couldn't drive
the road all the way to the cave because of
sand dune had formed across the road.
Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
So it forced us to get off road off and
we walked to the cave off through the desert, and
that's when we found that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
You know, it's one of those chants things that.
Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Happened sometimes totally unexpected, but you know, with with what
you do, you keep your eyes open. I've only found
tracks four times, and every time I felt like I
scored a touchdown in the super Bowl, It's like, I
can't believe that they're there.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
That's where don thinks he sees toes.
Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
So what was it? Was it that it happened to
be headed towards any water or cover.
Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Or uh it might have been some water out there
in the in the middle of the playa out there.
You see our tracks coming up to it at that
time of year.
Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
I don't know, that's huge.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah, so there you go. You know, that's that's that's
wild country up in there, and there's a lot of
it's awful limits. Uh, you can't go in there because
it's owned by the military.
Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
So would would this terrain be similar to what might
have been the terrain in Kandahar? Would you think.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Similar?
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
And and you know, whether you're talking about deer, bigfoot,
giants or whatever, if something doesn't want to be seen,
it's going to hang out in places where we usually aren't. Uh.
You know, the deer, they'll they'll you can tame them,
they'll come in for food and all that. But uh,
(01:04:37):
the intelligent, the more intelligent species will will avoid go
at all costs, you know, and you know, learn how
to live in the learning how to live in the
desert is pretty harsh.
Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Uh. This right here is a giant's grave. It's in
northern Nevada. The Indians killed a giant and they just
piled river rock on him. And they said, and this
is uh. This photo was taken in the nineteen fifties.
At that time the Indians saw you were very well.
(01:05:17):
You could take anybody there. But now they they quit.
They quit. Used to come every year and have a
ceremony and throw river rocks on the grave to keep
his spiritual coming back out.
Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
That was my question I was going to ask, would
why would they spend the time and energy to bury
it with rocks.
Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
He was picking up people and bashing them against the rocks.
He picked him up by the ankle and just were
bashed the whole their whole body against the rocks. And
he was eating. He was cannibalistic. He was just bad
to the bone. It took three hundred people to do
him in wow. Uh, let me read this to you.
(01:06:00):
Somewhere back in the unparted mists of time, long before
the coming of the white Man to the Great Basin,
a race of giants inhabited this land. Native American tradition
indicated that they may have been some nine feet tall, redheaded,
and cannibalistic Sarawhinnemucca. Rites of a battle between these people
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and their own Piut tribe along the Humboldt River. There's
a grave on the Pyramid Lake Indian reservation in which
one of those giants supposedly buried. According to Piute tradition,
a giant once, let me see if I can pick
this up. It got kind of awkwardly trimmed. That's it
(01:06:45):
came down from the north and killed hundreds of warriors
by picking them up and knocking their heads together with
such force as to crush their skulls. Others were caught
up by the heels and dashed to death on the rocks.
Faced with annihilation, the Pyut Lee held a council and
decided upon a plan to rid themselves of the creature
(01:07:05):
on the given day. I thought it was interesting that
they call it a creature.
Speaker 6 (01:07:09):
That is interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
On a given day, a party of three hundred men
armed with bows and arrows concealed themselves behind rocks in
the Truckee Canyon, which is still there, and they awaited
their nemesis. He was seen approaching with a long string
of fish and a great number of rabbits slung over
his shoulder and a rope. When he got within range,
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the concealed warriors stood up simultaneously and each discharged an arrow.
He turned and fled out of the canyon, pursued by
the warriors, but fell dead within half a mile. The
men feasted upon the fish and rabbits and buried their
adversary where he fell. No monument was ever erected to
mark the final resting place of the giant, but the
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descendants of those who carried out the execution have conducted
an annual pilgrimage.
Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
We go.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
You know, I just had a one of those Ohao
moments that probably don't mean anything, but while you're reading that,
and it said cannibals cannibalism. Wouldn't that be great if
you had double row teeth where you could bite into
bones and hard.
Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Well, yeah, that's my interest would be to try to
recover his remains. But they went to the site. The
Indians did for many years, and rocks would be piled
up on the mound to keep the spirit of the
creature from emerging in the tracks made by the wounded
giant were cleaned out and preserved. Food, beads and trade
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goods were sometimes brought out to appease the spirit, but
the inhabitants of the reservation finally let the traditional lapse
and the story was largely forgotten. When this writer visited
the site some years ago, he measured the mound as
being roughly sixteen feet in length and four and one
half feet wide. The tracks allegedly made by the retreating
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giant measure from sixteen to eighteen feet apart. At that time,
the writer was that maybe the end of it. Yeah,
that's it. It got some of it got trimmed off,
but I didn't do it. So a friend of mine,
friend of mine showed me this.
Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
He just wondered why they were comfortable putting that in
a in print, and now they wouldn't, you know, I
mean exactly unless it was some group of investigators.
Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Or scientists a little better maybe right there?
Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, I said, yeah, that's and you know when Kenny,
our buddy from South Alabama, was I was blown away.
I heard about the burial mounds. But when I found
out that they had found giants in the bottom of
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the mound, there was one there was one hundred foot
tall hill. Now I'm not saying it was a mound,
but they found the this newspaper clip and I have
from Tennessee. They found the giant fifty foot below the surface.
So was that a mound that they build it up
to bear this thing? I mean, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Wow, they considered the giants. They held them in great reverence.
Like I said, these giants. Everywhere there was a giant,
the Indians tribes around it thrived, right, so you know
they had protection. You know, this is so overwhelmingly large
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person that nobody will challenge him, you know, nobody wanted
so they it was a mutual type thing. And like
I said, even the demigods they weren't nearly as big
as their fathers, but they were bigger than the rest
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of the Indians around there. And they they held the
same position, you know, tributes. You know, they bring them stuff,
bring them food, and in turn they got protection.
Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Right. Sounds like a mafia type thing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Well, I think back in that day they probably needed
whatever they could get.
Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Yeah, because you know, we forget you know, it's not
that many years ago, really, but it just seems like
it is. You if you go back one hundred years
and and you're living on the plains. If you don't
have protection, if you don't have a group of people,
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you're just sitting up for it. Animals, people and everything, weather,
everything else. So I thought, you know when you said
they kind of worked together, and well, if you can't
beat them, join them, you know, try to try to survive.
And you know that's that sounds similar to a king
type situation where you you grow your crops and give
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them so much as like taxes or whatever. Uh, so
they won't Uh, it's a good deal for both all
people involved, I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
But that's what I don't want. A giant's physical you know,
capabilities were you know, I know they imposing, posing, Uh,
but they they weren't regular people, you know, so well,
what what's inside we don't know?
Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Well, I know I think they lived a long time.
Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Yes, I watched one of Amanda's favorite people, l A. Marzouli,
and one of his guys. They were they had interviewed
one of the fellas that supposedly was that uh in
Kandahar when when they ran up, the first group ran
up on the giant and then the second group went
in because they couldn't communicate that there was nobody communicating back.
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They went in and the survivors, the one guy, they
talked to him like two or three times before they
interviewed him, and they said that this thing was so big.
It was it had red hair, and it was impossibly
fast for its size. It was very it had a staff,
and it was very well trained in how to use it.
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And so that's that's the only time I've heard a
supposed witness give an account like that. But you would
think that if that's the case. Now, they did end up,
you know, as we all know, they ended up killing
the giant. But I just think about all of my
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friends that went to the military, and you know, if
something had happened to one of them, one of my
best friends, and what would the military done with they
have told you what happened, or just said it was,
you know, an accident in or that's just that's it's
amazing to think about because a lot of times when
I read story, I kind of put myself in the story,
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and that's a that's a terrifying one.
Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
Yeah, the story of the candlehar Giant and many others
is some of my favorites out there?
Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Oh what is this?
Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
That's the giant handprint that we found in Lovelock Cave.
What you see compared to his hand and the knife?
Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
How long is that knife? About twelve?
Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
He has a notch on that knife and he pulls
it out to linesh and it makes the knife is
eighteen inches at that.
Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Okay, so that's the width, yeah the middle finger. So
is that is that?
Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Okay? So is is that? Because I've heard stories of
where certain uh uh tribes got together and sealed up
caves and burn them.
Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
This is the cave.
Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
That's the cave.
Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Oh yeah, that's that's yeah, this is the case.
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
Does that? I can't talk this ceiling sorry? Is uh?
Do you think that's the reason for the color difference there?
Or is that like stained from bat guano or something.
Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
No, that's stained from a soot and fatty deposits. That's
on the ceiling. Uh uh? Your ears of cooking in there?
Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
It's like a tar.
Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
Oh that this is on the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Now, this is on the wall. Okay, it's the same
stuff I got you. You can put your thumb on it,
look raised, you know, put your thumb above your head
on the ceiling. You can count. Count up to about
a minute and that stuff will soften from the heat
of your thumb. Uh. It's you see where it stuck
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to his finger when he pulled his finger off and
made a ridge of it. See it right there going up?
Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Yes, you took this picture.
Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I did.
Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
Wow, Thanks for sharing that, because you never know.
Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
Like, what's the word. I'm looking like a greasy residue,
look to it.
Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Sh it's fat and soot kind of mixed up together. Uh,
it was all over his hand. Apparently that's down in here.
There's another chamber and all up on this wall right here.
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Their soot from a fire down in here that came
up out of this hole. Now it's got a debris
cone in it. You can't get down in there.
Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
You see see some of the soot right here on
the edge of that light.
Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
I've seen that on rock out you know out west.
Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
That's that tari stuff. It's how long it's been there.
I mean there's a spider spider web going across it. Wow,
it's uh see it's even embedded in it set across
its salon.
Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
So how many how many giants were involved in this incident.
Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Do you know, Oh, I don't know, because it took them.
It took them several years to get rid of them. Ah.
And this is where there used to be a lake
out here, and the lake came up like right here
at the time. You know, the lake goes up and down.
But they they ran out of their little reed, had
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a red platform they were on and ran into this cave,
and the pilots trapped them in there and burnt shot
flame and arrows in there. Wow.
Speaker 6 (01:18:05):
But do you know or have a general idea of
about how big the that particular cave is.
Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
It's changed.
Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
In nineteen sixty three Emory Strong went in there. He
said at that time it was one hundred and sixty
feet deep. It's nowhere near that now.
Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Do you think it's been that's just from natural time
and decay that change all.
Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
That reason reason they got this this handprint on the wall,
it's because they built a excuse me, an observation deck
and they they it was it was low in the middle,
so they pulled all of that stuff away from the
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walls to the center to level and uncovered it. So, uh,
then me and don come poking our noses in there.
And found it. They didn't know, they never saw it.
The people building that thing that's a sand dune?
Speaker 6 (01:19:23):
What how white that Sanders thought about what we saw today?
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
What are you about? Can't hardly hear that?
Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
So that all of that was the bottom of a
lake at one point.
Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Yeah, yeah, wow, and it changed. I tried to take
a picture of the moon. That's Pyramid Lake and I
found uh Petri glyphs with Egyptian riding on. Wow, along
that lake and see interesting that Egyptian writings on the
Petrick glyph and they have a pyramid.
Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
And then the lake happens to be called Pyramid Lake.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
It looks like the bent pyramid in Egypt.
Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
It actually does. Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
So if you take and open up a history book
from school now, it probably hasn't hardly any truth. At
this rate, we're going, I mean, that's that's a pyramid.
Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
You don't you don't get out on this lake. The
Native Americans say water babies will pull you down. Oh
and I don't know what a water baby is, but
they believe it because there ain't nobody on it and
that it has fish.
Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
That so we got wreck says the government. Did they
raise the handprint after you found it in the case.
Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I did it. It was there in June and by
November the whole front of the rock was gone.
Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
Gone as in like white clean, like somebody cleaned it or.
Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Gone led it away away.
Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
Oh wow, Yeah, they were making sure you really couldn't
find anything.
Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
I'm glad we got to see the picture. I mean,
because you can. You know, looking on the internet, you
don't know where the uh you like, you see a
black panther and uh over two weeks in Facebook it's
it's in Mississippi, Alabama, California, Canada, the same cat, you know,
so you don't never know. But the fact that you
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were there and took that picture, that's why I asked,
is that's amazing to me? And think thank you for
sharing that with us.
Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
And yes, thank you, sir Patrick Lift.
Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
These are the oldest PETR glyss in North America. Trailers
everywhere here.
Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
That looked like a face with it looked like a
Wilson off of that movie Castaway on the volleyball.
Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Those are cartoons. Have you ever seen a cartouche in Egypt?
They're oblong and they have the symbols for the king.
Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
Yeah, that's the ones where they have the symbols inside
of the circle.
Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Or over or three of them there together, Yes.
Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
Sir, yeah you can see that. Wow, and this is
all outside of pyramid lake.
Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Yeah, so what that is? Time period? Does anyone know?
Like how old they are?
Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Ten thousand, seven hundred years?
Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Crap?
Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Oh? Why what's this now? Oh? It won't let me
stop it? Crazy thing.
Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
Gotta love technologies sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
My ability to stop it. I want to stop to
show you what else. Okay, now this looks like it's
really hard to read. But this right here is what
they call me. Say, Okay, right here is is a
circle that stands for God and or Rah in Egyptian terms.
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This right here is a folded towel, and it makes
the s sound me, says Ramis, says Ramsys. Wow, they
made it on this tough tufa. What they call Tufa's
really rough stuff. It's some kind of for nations in
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water that cause that. But so that they had they
right here, it fell apart. So they moved the Rah
over here, which is it's still easy to read ram
missus boldly towel.
Speaker 6 (01:24:19):
Someone in the comments section is asking Egyptian question mark
or were they possibly higher? I can't talk hieroglyphics from
the Maya or the Natchets, who were known to have
migrated through that area. And I apologize to those tribes
for butchering those.
Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Names questions, but I recognize these to be Egyptian, the
same as you see in Egypt. Cool, which is, uh,
why why are they there?
Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
We want to talk about missing history exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:24:55):
Yeah, and this would be north of the Grand Canyon
where there's supposed to Egyptians and pyramids and hieroglyphs and
all that kind of stuff there too, which is a
whole other rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Yeah, it certainly is. Let me uh uh.
Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
M K had a good friend asking me this week.
He's very very smart guy. I don't know why he
talks to me, but he he said, Roger, what's your
opinion on why Bigfoot? Uh it's been hidden, you know
and some of this other stuff. And I said, well,
and the m K kind of said something about it
at the beginning of the show. The easy answer is,
(01:25:32):
you know, follow the money, and how many people would
quit going out and and other people would be you know,
locked up in their house and couldn't handle it mentally.
But also I honestly believe the subject of Bigfoot, like
m K was saying earlier, leads to more truth and
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some body doesn't want us knowing the real history. And
it just confuses me as to why there.
Speaker 6 (01:26:04):
Has to be a million dollar question.
Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
There has to be something there that will cause loss
of control, you know what I mean? Yeah, it Bigfoot
is a lynch pin.
Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
I you know right here, that's your me say, and
that's your s just your plane is bowling towel me
say rom missus and this other is added to it
saying something else sent a cartoon.
Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
That's the one Scott Walter did. Is it America Unearthed
that he did a few years ago?
Speaker 6 (01:26:50):
I believe it was America on Earth. Yeah, that's a
fantastic series that I'm actually glad that he was able
to get out there because he figured they would try
to hide some of the stuff that he was talking
about on that show.
Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
And there's stuff east of the Mississippi that's mind blowing,
you know, Georgia. Georgia has got some crazy history, some
of the hieroglyphs and rock carvings and you know, uh
here we've got some Mississippi's full of Alabama.
Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Either me say right here, yep, yeah, you can see it.
There's raw raw mesis fold of towel right here. He's
got it cracked underneath it, but you can still see
it right there, Promises Ramses.
Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
And you know, you start going out the rabbit hole,
you know, is what we use. And then you find
ah and the Egyptian deserts and places is that supposedly
has had no activity in so many years. And then
you find glass, and you find things that are built
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because we're you know, everybody that's here probably knows all this,
but you know, things that are built, and we're like, well,
how could we do that with the Now we're talking
about eighteen foot twenty foot tall people, there's probably ten
times stronger than we are. Probably helped a little bit,
but I won't go any further down that. I have
other ideas also, But you know, at one time, you know,
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the around the Pyramids, it was it was plentiful with
water and a lot of the I know you've seen
this were a lot of the markings on the rocks
are from erosion from water, so that carries them further
so far back. And the wildness that happened this summer,
I'm thinking it was the summer when they did the
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readings under the pyramids. And I don't know what to
believe that I could. I mean, I haven't seen it
with my own eyes. But if if that's the case,
maybe maybe people are protecting us from things that would
make us question too much or go crazy. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Have you ever seen that these big old stones up
there in Peru and a place I think they call
it Aliampo Aliampo.
Speaker 6 (01:29:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
They these things weighed like one hundred tons of peace.
And they carried them from the other mountains across the
valley and up there and put them in place. And
the uh they listed three reasons, three ways that that
three things that have to be met in order for
them to transport those stones and manipulate them. One of
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them was that the stones have to be willing to
be trans trans transport. I that just I know, blew
my mind. I know what what what do they mean
by that? Because you know a lot of cultures way
(01:30:12):
back believe that the stone, these shining stones were alive.
Mm hmmm. That's where you get the word the surname,
you know, living stone, living stone, That's where it came from. Wow. Uh,
they all believed that and like like these big old
(01:30:32):
huge like stone hinge and all that. They believe those
stones were living things and they had energy. And as
it turned out there were right. Uh, stones do have energy,
especially the one with quarts of them.
Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Yes, that's now if I think I read this right.
But here's a fact that blew my mind. I'm not
a scientist, but I read I was reading up on
quartz because we had some things happen where there were
a lot of quartz around, and I started digging in
and the first thing I read was quartz. It's kind
(01:31:12):
of enigma because it's not it's neither a solid nor
a liquid or it doesn't have a classification really, So
I don't know if I misread that or not, but
that blew me away. It's neither a solid or liquid
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or so what is it? We know it stores energy
and if it's put under extreme pressure that you can
get energy out of it. And I told the story
a while back where actually MK, we were at mc menville.
Did you see the lady with the crystal bowls that
was kind of in front of you up the aisle.
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She had some huge crystal bowls and she had some
pictures of footprints out front where she found some big
foot footprints, and Randy Brooks he said, you got to
come over and talk to this lady. Well, I was
interested in the bowls. And when she started rubbing the
rim of that bowl, the big one, I stuck my
hand down in it without touching the bowl. It lit
(01:32:14):
me up. I mean, goosebumps, hair standing up, energy just
on this side. It was the craziest feeling. But you know,
if she was releasing that energy, then it makes sense.
I guess I'm too.
Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
My theory about the huge stones is that that it
somehow involves giants, not necessarily to having the huge brute
strength to pick them up, but having some kind of
knowledge about how to do it. You know how the
willingness for the stones to come that that's that's a
(01:32:57):
really fascinating state. But and you look at some of
those stones, it looked like they've been scraped with a
butter knife, and you know, it made to made to
match perfectly.
Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
The seams. The seams are unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (01:33:12):
I mean, yeah, supposedly you can't even get a piece
of paper between them. And I find it fascinating that
some of them even look like they've been melted together.
Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. You know how
you would get something that's almost about to melt, still
kind of solid, and scrape it with a butter knife
or any kind of knife, and it would make these
little pat Yeah it shows on the stones. Uh what
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was the world was going on there? M h These
were so long ago, and the people involved we don't
know who they were. We don't know if it could
have been the giants are not us, that's pretty plain.
We don't get that big. But uh we we they
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may have exercise some hidden knowledge or hidden skills, uh
to them building something like uh you know, uh, sacks
sacks of sacks of human women. I have a hard
time with that one. Uh, you know, with a hundred
ton stones might have just been you know, a day
(01:34:30):
in the park for.
Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
The Yeah, like the Easter Island statues. Yeah, yeah, just
they're they're bigger than we thought originally because they go underground.
Then you have these stones that are perfectly round.
Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
You know, it could do that?
Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
Who could do that?
Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
And And I always looking at like some of the
doors and some of the faces, you know in Egypt. Uh,
if you look at like one face and we would
think they chiseled it out or whatever. But the measurements
are exact, draw line right down the middle, and the curves,
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everything is perfect. What kind of workmanship? How long would
that take? What would you you know? We couldn't do
it now without spending five years with engineers trying to
figure out a way to do it. And I've always
felt drawn to these stories for some reason, And I
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don't know why.
Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
Maybe I've been the same way to Roger. Maybe stories
have always fascinated me.
Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
It maybe it's because I saw the Bigfoot when I
was young. It did open my mind up to like
MK said earlier, if this this is real, then what
else is real? I've always said that, But I get
how many of y'all been guilty of watching a one
hour ancient Aliens or something about the Pyramids, and and
(01:36:05):
and end up six or seven hours just watching one
right after another. You know, it's just mesmerizing to me.
Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
It is you know, what the attraction is is it
puts you right on the edge of discovery and keeps
you there. That's you go seven or eight hours, that's
a good job. It's it's you feel like that if
you take your eyes off of it, you're gonna miss something,
(01:36:34):
and maybe you would. Uh, there's it's it's fascinating, and
also it kind of it kind of you get the
impression that it's important, right that.
Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
You're right, it's not. It's more than curiosity. It's a
feeling like you like it's like the carriage right there,
but you just can't get it. You're right, you're that's exactly.
That's a good way, but.
Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
You're still drawn to it, and so you just have
to keep trying to go for it.
Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Yes, we know there's something there, and in my goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Well let me tell you what. It's beginning to open
up over there a little bit. And I told my grandkids,
told them I'd give them twenty dollars if they could
recite to me the Egyptian alphabet. And they hadn't done
it yet. But Eva put it on her wall. She
says she's going to look at it every time she
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goes by.
Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
I've got a oh, go ahead, Sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
We need good people over there, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
we've had a long time with people that would tolerate
no other opinions or no other directions. We had a
guy over there as Ahiah was who's known as the Gatekeeper.
He was there to discrete if you got anywhere near
anything important, he tried to run you out of there,
wouldn't let you come back.
Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
If there's a documentary of any kind of out Egypt.
He's the face that's on there just about.
Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
And I know who you're talking about, just and I
don't know what you're talking about because I've watched so
many of them. Somebody made a comment about the buildings
over there, you know the doorways. That's a normal size
human silhouette right there, and then I don't know meters,
but apparently that's a pretty good sized doorway. I've seen
bigger in Nashville at the Parthenon. It's supposed to be
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exact replica. Also, here's a little side story. So I
live in Cornersville, Tennessee, and I can drive three miles
from right here my driveway. There's a little low museum
that doesn't look like anything at all at I sixty five,
exit over at twenty seven. It's the Ron Whitt Museum.
(01:38:51):
And he's yes, sir, And we had a store five
miles north of there for thirty years. Mister Watt used
to come in and talk to me. I had no
idea who he was, but we got to talking about
him finding what they thought was the arc, and they
have pieces that they brought back and carbon dated and
(01:39:12):
you know, of course he's passed away now and I'm
now looking for truth. And you know, back in the nineties,
I just didn't know who I was talking to. And
he told me stories, just me and him drinking coffee
about them going over there in the Turkish government, uh,
seeing what they had found and running them off, and
there was you know, uh, you know, there was kind
(01:39:35):
of threat of war going on and whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
And say a little time into slammer over there.
Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Yes, and so three miles from where I'm sitting approximately,
could be pieces of the Noah's Ark. That's that blows
my mind. I didn't know who he was, though, It's
my fault.
Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Just a podcast from two guys from Turkey. I had
to have a translator that was kind of new.
Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
I think I saw part of that. Actually, yes, I
did about five minutes of it, and I'm like, what's
going on? Because yeah, but.
Speaker 6 (01:40:18):
The podcast, mister Davis.
Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Uh no, I don't know that's okay called the translator. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
A lot went on in Turkey. It's it's an ancient place,
if that's if that's the place Ron White thinks he
found the arc. H that's uh there besides hat having
the outline of the arc in the mountain, it's there's
stone standing stones that appear to have uh supporting evidence
(01:40:54):
for that. The government of Turkey built them uh uh
a building there to receive tourists and stuff, and the he.
Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
Said the measurements were perfect. One of my neighbors riding
on bound a four wheler. I hope y'all didn't hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Ron White was a free thinker. Yeah, he wasn't tethered
by any particular belief other than that it said it
was there in the Bible, and that's what he went by.
But he was he was free to think, and he
didn't turn himself off when he got thought something unpopular.
Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
If I'm not mistaken, don't don't. Over here in this
little museum, they have some of the some of the
balls of melted like from Sodom and Gomora so for balls,
sofer balls. Yeah, yeah, y'all. This it looked when I
you know, how I found this out, y'all. So the
man passed away. His his the guy that you know
(01:41:59):
had is it now? He used to come in the
store all the time too. Uh, part of that family.
One of if y'all heard of David Rice Reese r
I E s. He has his studio here in Louisbourg
and he he y'all, I like to look that up.
But his name is David R. E I S. I
believe he bought a building and they he has a
(01:42:20):
YouTube show. It's uh, it's I think it's Christian, but
it but it looks at how history like what we're
talking about now, kind of hidden history and and and
and things that have been skewed. But I was sitting
here in my house a few years ago and missus
(01:42:41):
at the museum come on and I love that show.
And there we're here, we are We're in a little
town of uh, just outside of Corners, Tennessee. I'm like,
what are they doing here? And they were talking about
the White Museum and how and I started looking on
YouTube and I'm like, oh my god, I had I
talked to him for so much, so long, and I
(01:43:01):
picked his brain a little bit. But if I'd have known,
I would have I would have tried to learn more
from him. But anyway, that's just my's just one of
them stories. People call me Forrest Gump sometimes my kids do.
But I didn't know who I was talking to.
Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Yeah, well sometimes that's uh, that's okay. Uh, But now
you got inspiration, mm hmm. Maybe you will be the
next one to make a great discovery. I don't know
if he found where the Israelites crossed the Red Sea,
you know that got confirmed here recently down there and
(01:43:42):
saw and actually put their hands on that chariot wheels.
Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
Yes, I saw that. They want they uh they I
think they said they were so shocked because it's like
it's on the bottom and the closer they got to it,
it just came into view. There's a there's a chariot
wheel and it just can you imagine being explorer and
(01:44:08):
maybe not knowing the story is true, but you find
that you find the evidence for the rest of the world. Well,
I mean it's just like you, mkay, we just don't
sugarcoat in any you use what you did with the
Patterson Kimlin film helped all of us. So you know
I've not.
Speaker 6 (01:44:23):
Mentioned you and the Don Monroe did too with all
your research there.
Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Yeah, Dot Don is Uh, he's he's getting on up
there in age pretty good right now. I'm a little
concerned coming winter. He's, you know, burning wood like he's
thirty years old, back and forth into his little cabin.
Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
That keeps you young.
Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
What state does he live in?
Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Yeah, a lot of wood. Yeah it's very cold.
Speaker 6 (01:44:57):
Yes, sir, y up on what he hit now, you
got to keep it packed in.
Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
And you know, being he had a fire last year
that he managed to put it out use he don't
have running water, so he put it out with a
snow shovel and snow. But he breathed a bunch of
the sudden stuff in and he coughed. I'll tell you what,
(01:45:23):
he's tough as nails.
Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
There. There we go. Very acts man, very acts. It's
probably one of the smartest people. I kind of know,
it says. MK was on Turkish broadcast Believe in GreenWave
to twenty ten f B the Patterson Gimlt mystery four
days ago. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
I had no idea. I didn't get no link from him.
Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
I knew you were struggling a little bit the while
I was watching. I don't know if they even said
anything for a little while there. I think I don't.
I need to go back and watch it. I'm gonna
write that down now that I know, I'm gonna go
watch the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Well they were nice, now they weren't. They weren't they
were easy going.
Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
It's just tough when you have a language barrier. Wow. Okay,
So thank you very extent. We need need to get
very ax to us. Send write his write a story
and send it to me so I can read for everybody.
Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
So, mister Davis, out of all of the stuff that
you've gone and done and explored and been a part
of videos and photos that you've analyzed, what are some
of your your favorite things that you've come across throughout
all your years of doing doing this, doing your research
and everything.
Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
I've had some that I come across just entirely by accident,
and to me, the happenstance fact. You know, I almost
want to laugh out loud. But I was. I was
watching this. I just thumbing through the internet and it
came on. I was watching it. It was the explosion
(01:47:15):
of the first atom bomb in a test out there,
New Mexico, and I was watching it and I looked
down at the bottom this huge, huge bird.
Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
I saw that on your channel.
Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
I think they were two miles away from that explosion.
So this bird had to be huge, and it was
desperately trying to grab air. You know, when your wings
touched the top and touch it them, Yeah, you're you're
really pulling. It seemed to just come right up out
of the earth, you know it. Uh, you couldn't tell
(01:47:54):
anything that was there to come out from behind. It
just appeared like it might have been in a cave
because that area, that area has caves, and.
Speaker 6 (01:48:05):
There's lots of legends of thunderbirds in that area.
Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
As well, in that area. Yeah, so that's what I
assumed I was looking at something like that because I
just don't think even an eagle would show up at
two miles, right.
Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
No, you know, I've seen eagles that you know probably
maybe I don't know how how they fly, but with
thenked eye, Uh, the only the only the only way
I knew it was a bald eagle was because when
it turned just right and the sun hit its head,
you know that that gave it away. Other than that
it looked it was tiny. So two miles Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Well, I'm not a thunderbird guy, you know, but my
thought I swear. My thoughts took me. I looked at
it over and over and over again, back and forth,
back and forth.
Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Are you the one that found that?
Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
Yeah, wow, do you have that video?
Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
I have it here somewhere.
Speaker 4 (01:49:02):
Oh, it's fine, we'll do a thunderbird show sometimes. I
saw it. It comes up and I'm like, that thing
has to be huge.
Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Let me see which hard drive it might be on,
because you know when before if y'all do see it,
So the blast is kind of center up and where
he's talking about, if I'm not mistaken, down at the
(01:49:35):
bottom of the screen, which most people are not going
to be looking there.
Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
They're looking at the blast. This bird, it's obviously a bird,
but it has to be massive.
Speaker 6 (01:49:46):
Yeah. I haven't actually seen that. I'll have to definitely
look that up after this show for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
Yeah. I mean I just happened to see it. I
didn't know you. I watched so much. I didn't realize it.
Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Is yours thunderbird atomic blast, and I think that's it.
Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
That might be it.
Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
I see here.
Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Hm hm, h.
Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
It's flapping its wings, it is.
Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
That's a big bird. Yes, and that's a lot of
thunder yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
Yeah, as he says, around here, that poor bird is
trying to get him some younger away from that.
Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
So this camera is two miles away from the blast.
Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Yeah mhm.
Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
H.
Speaker 4 (01:51:05):
And it's and if you notice, if you if you
watch the bigger birds, uh, you know, here would be
the buzzards or or whatever that shaped kind of like that,
like he said, if it's if it's reaching up and
bringing them down under and kind of there those wings
on a normal sized bird. You're not going to see that.
Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
No, no, uh that this thing as big as a
small plane.
Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
I don't think I saved the original, you know, I've
made this little little video. Let's see Thunderbird in atomic
blast and then another one. No, I still got the Aarron.
(01:52:00):
Oh well, maybe I can find it again. I was.
That's just one day a day of surfing on the internet.
Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
Can't that's a that's an ego eye right there. But
I guess you trained yourself though, right.
Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
It plagues me.
Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
So we got a guy that uh is not my problem.
A guy bumped into you in oak Ridge, Oregon. Or
I guess that's it. Uh Uh. So when you go
places travel the country, do you have people that recognize
you from your YouTube videos.
Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
I have at times. I went down on the coast,
the lady was started hollering at me. I was walking
on the beach and she was up on a balcony
restaurant cloud.
Speaker 4 (01:52:49):
That's awesome. Yeah, uh so very actually as uh I
wanted to read this, I don't. I don't know what
it says yet, but it's always good. You often explore
topics that challenge accepting narratives in your view. What's one
piece of history or evidence that you think deserves serious
re examination by mainstream researchers. Oh, you done opened up
(01:53:11):
a can of words now there.
Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
Yeah, that's a good one. I've had some recent recent
information on the Patterson film that has taken me in
a kind of a new direction on that. I'm still
I'm still, you know, kind of working on that. But
it had to do with Native Americans and what Native
Americans recognized in my in my my frames from the film.
(01:53:40):
You know there's a braid, a small braid on her.
Speaker 6 (01:53:43):
M h yeah, I remember you pointing that out.
Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
They recognized that braid to be to have a particular meaning.
Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Interesting, it's called it a scout block, but it's The
word that they use is a language from South America,
and the type of language, one word can mean an
entire sentence or thought or idea, and this one means
(01:54:13):
people from the other side of the mountain.
Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
Oh well.
Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
And then the other meaning is the one who knows
the way.
Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
And when I read that, then I knew that Patty
was was the one who knows the way. And right
up above her, up on the high peaks, there's two
peaks are the sacred peaks where the Hoopoe said that
(01:54:49):
that before us humans were here, there was another type
of human and they went back to the stars through
a hole in the sky from those two peaks.
Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
Wow. See, that's those stories like that. You start going
down and talking about the story people and people. I
found out just by talking to some of my friends
that I've met in the last year or so. I
(01:55:24):
started looking like, you know, I have the old negative
blood and other things and Neanderthal DNA and all that,
And then some of my buddies are like, you know,
you you might have blood memory. I was talking about
like feeling at home and wyoming and out and there
I felt at peace, and I started looking kind of
(01:55:45):
at myself and then you hear these stories like the
Old Negative suddenly appeared supposedly about thirty thousand years ago
or whatever. Personally, I think the timelines are off. But
that's another that's for another show, right. But I've the
(01:56:05):
the digging I've done. I'm at the mindset of the
puzzle pieces are there, but we stay so busy, and
they're scattered so far, and some of them are hidden.
It's hard to piece together. But when you get to
talking to people that know from different cultures, uh, sometimes
that brings things more into focus than anything else, because
(01:56:28):
those stories and those thoughts have been passed down for millennia.
So you know, you can grab you can grab any book,
you can grab the Bible, and you pick up a
Bible and read it, and you pick one up over here,
and it has some different differences, you know. So I
just feel like I've always had this feeling that the
(01:56:50):
timelines were off, And recently I've watched some I think
it was is Genesis Real and it showed how, Yeah,
showed how the Green Canyon could have been made in
two weeks. Because a lot of the change we've seen
in our lifetime with Mount Saint Helens or the floods
in the you know, the North Carolina Mountains and Tennessee Mountain.
(01:57:13):
A lot of that change happened suddenly and violently, and
these scientists were talking about the layer of rocks and like,
this is impossible unless it, you know, like a damnlet
loose or there was a flood and then the water
was receding and coming back and depositing this layer rock
and then receding and coming So it kind of fits
(01:57:35):
more of a biblical timeline than some of these, you know,
scientific theories. I don't know, I got off the rails
right there, but it's where it takes you. This is
these discussions.
Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
If you can imagine now she's if she is the
one who knows the way. They were originally I think
seven in her group, so she had six that were
following her to be shown the way to the other
side of the mountain. Uh. Also that word uh, when
(01:58:11):
you when you're talking about showing someone the way, it
was a secret way. That's that was the meaning of
the word they should she shows you the secret way. Ah.
Now if those Bigfoot may not have even supposed to
be there, Uh, they should have already gone to the stars,
(01:58:35):
through through the holes in the sky. What if what
if they were given another opportunity to go to get
them off, get them off the earth, and she was
the one who's going to take them there, to be
there on those peaks at a certain time, and then
(01:58:57):
they got interrupted it and they didn't make it.
Speaker 6 (01:59:03):
That could definitely be a reason why she turns back.
And she's not even really that bothered.
Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
She don't she don't try to take those She don't
want to take those two cowboys up there.
Speaker 6 (01:59:15):
No, Yeah, it's like I got places to go.
Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Just she takes off, but they get abandoned it. Maybe
it may be more than once. You know, if you've
got to be there at a certain time to take
advantage of of some method for returning to the stars
or reaching space or whatever. Then they didn't make it.
(01:59:43):
So they're still there, still have their problem.
Speaker 4 (01:59:48):
Yeah, I know one of there's a lot of amazing
things you've pointed out over the years, but I think
one of one of the things that made me set back,
like when I watched it for the first time, was
when she shows her teeth. You know, that's I don't
(02:00:10):
know what it was about that about that series of frames,
but I don't know. If it's the look on her face,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
It's extraordinary.
Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Bigfoot don't come out in broad daylight and show show
themselves right out in front of somebody, especially with guns.
H It's just not typical behavior. It's it's something extraordinary
going on. I think that people realize that in the beginning.
But uh, to find out a meaning for that, for
(02:00:49):
that braid, it's like it's almost like, you know, there's
there's priests in Egypt that wore a scaplock and they
had the rest of their head shaved who had a scatwalk.
Come right up out of here and go down and
(02:01:09):
it it was their their method of recognition, you know,
what what they did, what their duties were.
Speaker 4 (02:01:20):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
I think that is what you're seeing there. The Indians,
the Native Americans who saw that knew it. The elders
knew it. I mean they immediately identified it and they
used a South American word, you know, natives, native peoples
(02:01:43):
here in North America used the South American word that
had that odd, odd language that the one word men
at all.
Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
Right, Wow, well we're we're just over two hours. Oh yeah, no, yeah,
I mean I could talk to you forever, but I
know some people have to go to work in the
morning and all that. But yeah, we definitely I look
forward to seeing you again, wherever that is. I mean,
(02:02:17):
if you get over to Tennessee, just holler at me
and let me know and we could get out. And
I know, we went boogering another night with Cumbo and
some friends, and I was just amazed at some of
the calls and the knowledge that they were just passing
between each other, and uh, we're going tonight. We're gonna
(02:02:38):
go set recorders out tonight. I can only do so much,
but I appreciate people like you that that share the
knowledge and and sit down with us and the and
the audience and just put it out there. I mean, I.
Speaker 2 (02:02:58):
Sat there on the ground in last Camp nineteen two
thousand and and I heard chanting coming from those two peaks.
Oh wow, Wow, it's to at least two voices.
Speaker 4 (02:03:21):
That's Look, the more the more you dig into this,
the it's hard you keept put. It's hard to put
the brakes on. Right now, I've got I'm writing down
stuff y'all are saying, and I've got change.
Speaker 6 (02:03:33):
I actually pulled out well to start writing down.
Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
So so before we go, y'all, if y'all give me
about thirty minutes, if you look at at Roger Holler
on YouTube, I'm gonna go live on the way out
to the the Booger Woods and me and Peyton I
talked to you a little bit, but uh go check
(02:03:57):
that out if you would. That's that's something I'm doing
on the side, just for fun. And uh, I appreciate
all of y'all, Me and Amanda, you know, and Ashley.
I appreciate everybody. The support that we that we've gotten
has been unbelievable to us. And you know, thank you.
M k uh. You know. I don't say I grew
(02:04:20):
up watching your stuff because of that been that long,
but once again, your work has helped me because of
my situation and seend the big Foot and I've been
able to talk about it and and then seeing the
Patty film in a way that like, yes, thank you.
But I just every time I see you almost say
(02:04:40):
thank you and then I'll shut up.
Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
So we appreciate you. I appreciate you all too.
Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
So so everybody, this will be probably up on Spotify tomorrow,
probably around nine o'clock. Just if you want to rewatch
again and listen or share it with your friends. I
think a guest like MK. You know, there's a few
(02:05:07):
out there, but there are very few that have the
information and have put the time in that he has.
And if you have doubters, you know, go go back
to the original Squatching Holler page and that interview we
did where he broke down the Patty film was amazing
to me.
Speaker 6 (02:05:26):
That was really cool.
Speaker 4 (02:05:27):
That was three hours that sometimes I rewatch it myself,
So share that and some of you that don't know
about the old channel, it's a it's just typing Squatch
and Holler on YouTube and it'll carry you there and
go subscribe to MK channel. He don't remember what it's
called green Wave. There you go, there you go. All right,
(02:05:54):
Thank you everybody, Yes.
Speaker 6 (02:05:56):
Thank you everybody, and thank you again, mister Davis.
Speaker 4 (02:05:59):
Right yep, have a good night, y'all.
Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
Hey, I'm Nielma fan and I'm listening to to Squatch
and Holler. And if you're hearing me say this, you
are too, which means you have excellent taste. Cheers
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