Untold Radio AM #270 Terrifying Run-Ins With Alaskan Bigfoots with Scott Massey

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Shhh.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Tonight's guest.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Looking back on life that you leave him then resting
home in the crowd, stick around through the crane were feeding?

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Who the fire?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
You'll be dancing around? Oh we hear is the sound
of treating and.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
No one cares where he's coming.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
My ears are still ring and feeding.

Speaker 6 (00:34):
I guess we are new from the start.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
The days not go.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
You're one of these days will be the world.

Speaker 7 (01:00):
Look at lancers, what it sas he's on the task.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
My my cost leading the fuse of the ashes, the spirits.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
That also, I'm looking down.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
The house for life.

Speaker 8 (01:37):
From the Untold Radio Network, It's Untold Radio Am with
Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co host Jeff
Pirella Jr. Untold Radio Am is going live right now.

Speaker 9 (02:05):
This show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep, that's the ticket.
Now Here are your Untold Radio Am posts. Doug high
Check and Jeff Corella Jr.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hello everyone, Hey, Hey, how are you?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Jeff?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm doing great? Good weekend?

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Oh is everybody in chat? Goot a a lot of
people in chat?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
People are adjusting to our Sunday nights.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, welcome, Thanks thanks for following us a Sunday. I
appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, we really do appreciate that. And it's a crisp
one at that.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, forties, So it's been a couple of nice days though,
can't complain we had a couple of Yeah, Friday and Saturday.
We're just beautiful here, so great days at seventy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Anyhow, tonight, though, we do hope you got your wood
stove crackling your fireplace a crackling away, because you're gonna
want the warmth once you hear tonight's guest stories and
some of the other things we're going to talk about tonight,
So you definitely um gonna look forward to and in

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meeting Scott Massey who's had some really really strange encounters
and his remote cabin, like it's really remote you have
to take a boat to get there. Cool.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So yeah, he's had a lot.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Of experiences and he uh he he doesn't. I don't
think he likes to go public with it, but he
seems to be willing to do it when I ask him. Yea,
in Alaska it should be so yeah, you're gonna want
to settle in dimmer lights, wrap yourself in a comfy

(03:50):
blanket grab what refreshment is that proper?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
To say, an adult beverage?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
An adult beverage, Yes, I wish I had an adult beverage.
I've got a spring water.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I got water.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah. But we're gonna do uh weird marketplace picks. We've
got a little uh tech breakdown tonight. Uh we have
clipicks and we have some trivia, a few fun things
to do. We don't know if we'll get to it all,
but we're gonna try.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
We'll try.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
So let's start with our weird and fast new.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Weird and fast news.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Weird. It's time for weird and fast news. So tonight
we have fish that have to dance that allows them

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to see what their dance their body movements. So it's
dancing fish that see with their body movements. So their
body movements are their eyes. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Sure, it's called the elephant knows fish. I wonder why.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
It's It's kind of like some people once while you
see at the bar. Yeah, they danced in order to
see ye as. Researchers have discovered that the elephant knows fish,
native to western and Central Africa, perform a kind of
a dance, twisting and shimming and pacing to help them

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perceive their surroundings. These fish emit weak electrical impulses or
pulses that sense distortions in self generated electrical fields.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's just like me, Yeah, that's what I do, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Process and I listen to this a process called electro location.
I've never heard that word electro no location. In new research,
scientists showed that the fish use body movements that change
how their organs sample the field, enabling them to discriminate shapes,

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discriminate between shapes behind a mesh partition by movements alone.
So they did all these experiments. Could you imagine getting
a grant for that?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, I don't know where is it all going to lead.
That is definitely a perfect word in fast news. And
then the next one is apparently they put tiny backpacks
to reveal that bats that actually hunt big prey. So
in a recent study, researchers equipped wild bats with the

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greater on the greater noctual bat. I guess, yeah, that's correct,
noctual bat.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Greater that one with a.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Miniature biologger and it's a little backpack that track movements, altitude, acceleration,
and sounds. During hunts and the surprising results. These bats
hunt large prey such as frogs, even small birds, midflight,
diving from high altitudes and using hang and weight strategies

(07:24):
rather than chasing prey constantly. Uh. And it's weird because
bats are typically thought of as insectivores or fruit eaters,
but apparently these are essentially aerial predators. I'm glad they're
not ten feet long.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, but now the other backpack, they're all set up
for bat college.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yes, and interesting thing made that little miniature sensor and yeah,
there you go. I'm gonna put one on you, Jeff,
and see what you did.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I can dive down from the sky and take take
down you.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Dive plenty dive. Scientists next have discovered an ancient yet
advanced snake. No, I'm not sure how you can be both,
but scientists describe and newly recognized extinct snake species called
the go ahead Jeff, go ahead, pronounce that.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
One, Okay, Rich or don?

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah? That's oh yeah, perfect job. That snake was discovered
in southern England that offers clues to origins of advanced snakes.
I didn't know there were advanced snakes. The fossil that
was returned after decades of study, shows morphology that challenges

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prior ideas about how and when certain snakes lineages evolved.
The odd bit is that the fossil snakes had features
that blur the lines between primitive and advanced traits, making
it kind of an evolutionary go ahead oddity. Uh uh?

(09:16):
How did he imagine?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's supposed to be? Two words? I think?

Speaker 4 (09:21):
How died? Do you imagine?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh, I got you. It's it's it's a mess up,
it says, imagine unearthing a snake fossil that forces scientists
to rethink the snake family tree. There we go. That's
that's what I do every day. I rethink the sneak. Yeah,
every day keeps Yeah, I can't sleep. Okay. Then, apparently

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unexpected wildlife appearances meaning animals in the wrong place, is
happening more and more often, and I thoroughly agree with that.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, I've seen too.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
How did they come up with this concept? And animals
are showing up in the wrong place? But let's read it.
A recent field Guide style article reveals a rising number
of wildlife sightings of animals living outside they're expected ranges,
movements of species into unexpected places is often caused by

(10:21):
human induced habitat changes, well the climate shifts, or accidental transport.
It's nature's version of the wrong address. A deer in
the desert, a frog far from wetlands, a tropical bird
turning up in tempered zones. These mismatches spark questions is

(10:43):
the animal adapting, is it lost or has it been
forced by something bigger? Perfect fodder for a weird wildlife thoughts,
which is, once again.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
We're screwing things up.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Whatever. I don't know if that. I think they're just adapting. Yeah,
they just I don't think they care. The scientists, I
would say, oh, you know, I remember them telling me
back in the eighties when I used to go to
South Dakota to film wild turkeys, and these experts would
tell me, oh, they'll never they'll never ever leave South Dakota,

(11:23):
will never have wild turkeys anywhere else because they have
to have ponderosa pines. And apparently not as an example,
and of course now they're everywhere. They were wrong. It's
just animals adapt.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
They'll figure it out. Yeah, they find a way. I
mean they're dumb. Put it this way.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
The Wilfer survival far exceeds some environmental barrier.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right, they'll figure it out, they'll adapt overcome absolutely.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, all right. And then I'm sure some people have
heard of this or seen it, but a transparent skull
fitsh has got some very strange anatomy and it made
the news again. But it has this clear helmet like
head that's completely transparent. You can see its organs, its eyes,

(12:13):
its brains, everything. You can see it there.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
See that jeft yep, the baril eye fish. I've read
a bit about that thing. That's weird. It's actually those
green knobs are that's its eyes pointing straight up. Its
eyes are rotate up so you can hang at the
bottom normally can pitch black and look above.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I thought it, oh yeah, right right, because it can
look right here at skull.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yep, Well you can do point it up.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Can't you do that with your skull?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm trying, Okay, Nope, can't see.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Can't do it. Okay. So this deep sea has its
share of strange creatures, including the Pacific barrel eye fish
and whose skull and facial skin are transparent, allowing the
large tubular eyes to rotate within the head and looking
upward through the helmet. It says this adaptation is weird

(13:07):
and wonderful. Instead of the usual heart opaque skull, this
fish uses transparency and internal eye movements to scan for
prey and predators in the dark depths. So that makes sense.
It's completely dark and you can't see anyhow, so then
they have more advanced eyes.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Ye, look straight up.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
That makes that makes perfect sense to me. Imagine a
fish wearing a seat through helmet peering upward in the abyss.
So that one's a weird one for sure. And then
we have another new discovery, a weird spider with no
eyes at all. Speaking of eyes, found in the remote

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Atlantic island. On a remote Atlantic island, I don't think
I want to meet a spider without eyes.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't like spiders.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
On the island of Saint Helena in the Atlantic, researchers
uncovered two new spider species, one completely eyeless and the
other armored with thick plates. This is a classic nature
one sideway situation. Isolated island environment produces spiders with loss

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of eyes, since darkness or sheltered habitat removes the need
for them. Well, that's what I was just saying about
the fish. Then why did that fish develop really amazing eyes.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
So it doesn't make sense different.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah. Well, and it says the other spider had heavy armor,
perhaps to fend out predators of heart conditions. So there
we go, this is what we need. Blind erachnids.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah. Well they can sense stuff. I mean, they can
sense vibrations, they can operate in the dark. They Yeah,
they're pretty amazing animals.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Action you have any spiders in your house? Shoff?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh always, they're always floating around.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, okay are they blind?

Speaker 10 (15:07):
Are they.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
How you did to ask you?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Anyhow, Weird fact of the week, weird Fact of the week.

Speaker 9 (15:17):
It's now time for untold Radio weird Fact of the week.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
That is kind of weird.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
That's your favorite song?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I like that song. That's a good one.

Speaker 10 (15:32):
All right.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
So weird fact of the week is that plants might
be eaves dropping on their neighbors, not communicating with them,
but spine on them. Okay, well let's get into this here.
So here it is. Back in January of twenty twenty five,
scientists at Oxford dropped a bombshell about so called wood

(15:56):
wide wet. Right, we've all heard that the fungus is
like the world wide web, right, and they're all communicating
this beautiful forest environment, and plant A is talking to
plant be. Okay. So that idea of plants using underground
fung guy to warn and help each other unlike other,

(16:18):
like one big happy forest family, Well that turns out
that might not be true. It might be completely wrong.
Instead of sharing helpful messages, plants might actually be eavesdropping
on each other. Yep. Quite, it's a lot of little
spies in the dirt. According to new research, plants don't

(16:39):
really send signals. They just listen for chemical clues that
their neighbors give off when they're stressed or attacked. Right,
that's a lot of screams to filter through. So when
they especially think of the little grass blades all talking
to each other when the blong gets mode, Yeah yeah, yeah,

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that's it's interesting, it says here. So instead of peaceful
forest support groups, the forest maybe is actually more like
a chemical gossip line. Whoever leaks the first tint of trouble,
everyone else uses it to their advantage. Nature sneaky folks,
So that's the bottom line. Their nature is sneaky. And

(17:28):
I can imagine when all those little grass blades are
grass blades are saying when the lawn's getting moded, like,
oh god, here they come.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
It's the end. I'm getting cut a man or there
goes George.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
By the way, I want to I just want to
acknowledge something. A very dear friend of mine who i've
you know, went to school with elementary school, high school.
We used to ride motorcycles together. And I got a
hall from his son. And he's in critical condition right
and his name is Bill. And if everybody wants to
say a prayer for Bill, that would be really helpful.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Just uh, it's tough getting getting to the age where
your friends are, yeah, are not doing so well. So
any opening pulls through, they say, if he pullster tonight,
he might be Okay, oh good thet there's some little
bit of hope. But his son that was just sad
hearing from his son tonight. Yeah. Okay, So we have trivia. Now,

(18:35):
we can do Iguana trivia, you know, like you're kind
of living in Florida, or we can do Alaska trivia.
What do you think we should do? Which one you
guys can pick?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well, let's uh, I'll give you six. Okay, everybody chime
in what they want to do. I'm going to give
you sixteen seconds to figure it out.

Speaker 9 (18:58):
It's now time Untold Radio a m audience trivia. Who
wants to play.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
The heck with those iguanas? Yeah, it looks like we're
doing Alaska.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
See I predicted that.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well. It does kind of fit the theme of the show.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Of course it does well, That's why I predicted it.
But yeah, I want to give you guys a choice.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Okay, who's gonna play?

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Who's gonna who's gonna play? We have some new faces,
I do see.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, let's get somebody new playing tonight.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
I see, uh, plenty of new people. I don't care
whoever wants to do it. It's fine, all right.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Let me step up whom I.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Might might send something no charge to the winner of
this trivia.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Okay, we've got a couple here. We've got I'm not
sure with the with the way that it shows, the
way that YouTube shows names, and I don't have any
of these names. So I've got Debbie, yep, Debbie, and
one that just says Ari Johnson. I'm not sure who
that first what that first name is is that Russell Russell?

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So we got Russell and Debbie?

Speaker 4 (20:29):
All right, all right, here we go. What percentage of
Alaska is designated as wilderness? Is it ten percent, twenty
five percent, fifty two percent or over sixty percent? Ten
twenty five, fifty two or sixty which one? What percentage

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of Alaska's designated as wilderness? Oh? We got some helpers here, all.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Right, Johnson said Russell. Okay, I'm trying to keep up here.
Russell said eighty percent.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Sixty and eighty wasn't an answer, was.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
One of the answers.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Okay, Russell, So we gotta give that one a Debbie, Yes, Debbie.
By the way, I had lasagna for supper. It was delicious.
It was delicious. But then I went, oh my god,
you know what I just did? I just ate carbs card.
They just get me man so bad?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Oh yeah, plenty of carbs in the Sonia really yeah? Weird? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:49):
All right?

Speaker 4 (21:49):
What you a state is geologically, geology, geographically, geologically geographically
closest to Alaska? Is it Washington, Hawaii, Montana or Colorado? Washington, Hawaii,
Montana or Colorado? Which one's closer geographically is closest to Alaska?

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What's you at state geography?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Should I get? Should get? The music? Check at the
trivia music on.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Oh, we just got to have that hold on.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Remember what volume we like it at right about there there?

Speaker 4 (22:29):
That's just perfect. And I see our Alaskan expert just
came in backstage, which is nice.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
All right, We got some other people guessing here looking
for Russell and Debbie to chime in.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
What you have stated is geographically closest to Alaska Washington, Hawaii, Montana, Colorado?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, Russell said, Washington. What did Debbie se? I haven't
seen Debni yet. Boll said Washington. And you're both all right.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
I'm gonna move on. It's a y because island the
island to island. Why is the closes?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Look at a globe. Yep, if you look at a globe,
it's pretty obvious.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Okay. What is the official state sport of Alaska? Is
a dog machine ice fishing, snow machine racing or skeedjuring,
dog machine, ice fishing, snow machine racing, scojuring. And the
answer is what the music's kind of wound?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You could turn down? You can turn down a little bit.
Whoa better?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, so, Russell said, dog mushing and waiting. I'm Debbie
to retire in here.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Well, we're gonna get go on first.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
So well let's give a point sho we uh Russell
give a point to Russell coming on that one? Sorry Debby,
all right, the quicker internet.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
So it's one sorry, what Alaska? Which Alaska town is
famous for no sunrise for about sixty five days each winter?
Which Alaska town is famous for having no sunrise for
about sixty five days each winter? Is it Gnome Barrel Alaska?

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And then it's what cuts Kutsubu? And then Talkeitna.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Gnome Barrow Kotzebu or Talkeitna?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yes, what's Alaska town is famous for having no I
would imagine the most northerly.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Town, right, well, yeah, you would think.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
All right, I think, uh se you we got a
lot of people chiming in.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Russell said, nome, where's Debbie for the answer?

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Come on, Debbie? I think Debbie left. That'd be that'd
be that'd be my luck if I was doing trivia.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I just think a little bit DeBie needs uh my
battery would go on your internet? Or maybe you're not.
Maybe you're not watching quite live. Sometimes it' all leg
a little bit you're not watching quite live quite you.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Know, Yeah, tip the fast forward button.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, got to catch up, said barrow On. Debbie is right, Yeah, Debbie,
you're right.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Forward, fast forward your timeline. Okay, uh what what? What
is Alaska's largest national park? Is it Danali Glacier Bay? Uh?
Wrangle Gates of the Arctic? So is it Danali Glacier

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Bay Wrangle Gates of the Arctic?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
The suspense?

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah, the largest national park.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
People are saying Denali. Here it's wis.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
We'll never guess.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Have you been to Alaska, Jeff?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I have not, and it's definitely a place that I
would love to go. My uh, my dad and my
brother have been there a bunch hunting, but I've never
been there.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, I know, I know Joe has been there, an.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
My dad's been even more fishing and hunting. Debbie, you know,
I think you might have to fast forward. I don't
think you're quite live with us.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, I think I think not. Okay, So where did
Russell answer?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Russell said to Nali?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Okay, wrong, wrong, We're gonna move on.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
We gotta move on. Sorry, and all the answer is
Wrangell Saint Elias.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yes, it's by the way, bigger than Switzerland. Just that's
just that National Park.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's bigger than Alaska is big. You don't realize look
at it. Like again, get a everybody should own a globe.
When you look at the globe, it really puts everything, yeah,
in perspective. It's crazy to see a size of stuff.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
All right? What bizarre phenomena happens in many Alaskan rivers
in winter? What bizarre phenomena happens in many Alaskan rivers
in winter?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Are you gonna read the options? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:14):
I think I carved out there for a min No, Oh,
it's bad. Water turns neon blue? Is for a ice
dis spin in circles, and then salmon swim backwards. And
the last one is water freezes from the bottom up.

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What bizarre phenomena happens in Alaska? Water turns neon blue,
ice dis spin in circles, salmon swims backwards. I don't
I don't know about that one. Water freezes from the
bottom up?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
All right? What do we got here?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
William Robinson said, the salmon spin backwards? Salmon?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Uh, isn't it that music?

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Lee says, Number B, which.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Is is Tess Russell backwards?

Speaker 4 (29:22):
So Russell said, swim backwards.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
DeBie I think you need to fast forward. I don't
think you were with us live.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, you could be semi live. It's just like five
minutes bind, two minutes bind. All right, we're gonna we're
gonna gonna move on. We gotta move on. It's still
it's it's I have one Debbie and two russ Is
that what you have?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I have the opposite?

Speaker 4 (29:56):
What I have?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Two wie one Russell?

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Oh my god, Okay, this this is impossible.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, this is tough for everybody going slow? How can
it's no contest?

Speaker 4 (30:09):
I know what? How could mean? You have the opposite
score count?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
How did the world did that happen?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I don't know. They could think it's not a contest
because there's.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
No project contest.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, there's not a contest.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Which animals be responsible for the most injuries to people
in Alaska? Is it bears, wolves, moose or foxes? Bears, wolves,
moose or fox?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I actually want this one?

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Which animals are responsible for the most injuries to people
in Alaska? So DEBI I think DEMI just said moose
caught up?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Good?

Speaker 4 (30:55):
You're keeping score because I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Now I'm pretty I'm sure I'm right.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
I think you're wrong, but I always think you're wrong.
I'm just joking.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well, they both answered, right, it is Moose Webster's daddy sod.
They're both right.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah. By the way, you do not want Jeff ever
keeping score on oh hush boatworms in town?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I see.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Okay, what natural feature in Alaska glows bright green, purple
and pink? Is it by aluminescent bays, the Aurora borealis
mineral caves or frozen waterfalls? What natural feature Alaska glows

(31:50):
bright green, purple and pink bioluminas the Aurora borealis mineral
caves or frozen waterfalls. It's the last question, by the way,
it's the last one I want to do.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well. They both chimed in at the same time, and
they both write Robberry alis darvant.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
All right, we're gonna have a tiebreaker.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Okay, tiebreak, We'll call it a tie, yes, tiebreaker.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
All right, all right, this is just I'm just going
to say, wherever answers this right, is getting the not
contest things cont No, it's not a contest. Alaska produces
over ninety percent of which US seafood. Is it crab,
is it salmon? Is it halibut or is it all

(32:45):
of the above? Alaska produces ninety percent of which US seafood, crab, salmon, halibut,
all of the above? Which one?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's salmon?

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Good salmon fishing and the keen Ii River.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You know, I'm not a huge salmon fan, as.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
You eat too much pasta. They don't. They haven't invented
salmon posta yet.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
No, Well, it's think they're both wrong. The answer is
D all of the above.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
How does that work as a tiebreaker if they're both wrong?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I guess it doesn't all be damned?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
All right? What is all right? This is going to
be it? Now? What is unusual about the town of
uh Woodier, Alaska? Is it A? Everybody lives in one building.
It has no roads, is b C it bans cars?
D it's underground. What is unusual about the town of

(33:54):
uh Woodier, Alaska? Everyone lives in one building, there's no roads,
M scars where it's underground? Did we answer the uh
the fishing one?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
All the above?

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yeah, man, they need to go eat some more carbs.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
And again they're both wrong.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Okay, iognite everybody, We're so okay.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
The answer is they all have in one building. It's
pretty pretty cool. It's a yeah, the whole town was
in one big giant building. Everything well.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
And I think that they both since they both did
so bad, they both won the.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Non contest not a contest.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
They both won the not a contest.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
All right, so email me please with your there's my
headline right there, Jeff p and On told Radio Am
dot com. So both, if you can, please email me
with your contact information and your mailing address, and we
might get out a price out to you. We're not
or or nothing or something or it's not a contest,
So I don't know what we're gonna do, not for

(35:08):
that between the music.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Please why all right, let's let's go in and we
have Facebook. See what time is it. We've got Scott
should be tweed. I don't know what's going on lately.
Time is like it's going by, it's so quick.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Scott's ready. We get Scott coming, We get Scott, We.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Get Scott on. All right, What we're gonna do then,
what we're gonna do at the end, we're going to
do We're uh, at the end, after we're done talking
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Kind of important, kind of important. Okay, I'm going to
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Speaker 2 (38:07):
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Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh my god, I love it. Okay, and yes, Tennessee
said that those guys are going to get a surprise
back to Yeah, it's going to be a surprise. Might
be a popsicle stick, not a price, not a prize,
not a contest. Anyhow, get Jeff your email addresses and
we'll take we'll take care of you with some Yeah. Anyhow,

(38:32):
So Scott, I've known Scott quite a few years. I
think Scott is recently retired. I think, but I'm not sure.
But he is really an amazing guy with a lot
of skills, and he has probably you know, this dream
cabin off grid in Alaska, and he has had a

(38:55):
lot of interesting things happen obviously at this cabin. It's
kind of like the sell Grove of Alaska. Yeah, sort
of like yeah, it is anyhow, So let's go ahead
and bring Scott Masion.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Okay, let's let me give me just a sex all right,
and welcome Scott. Take guys all, hello, good to see you.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Good to see you as well.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
So are where are you right now? You're not on
your at your cabin? Are you?

Speaker 10 (39:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
So the cabin really is not accessible through the winter.
I mean it sort of is, but we have literally
ten twelve twenty two foot seats to get around the corner,
which is Cape Resurrection out of seward. So going out
of that cabin or going out of uh sewer to

(40:01):
get to the cabin, it's just not really an option
through the wintertime. So we sort of pumped the brakes,
put the boat home for the winter, and here we are.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
So is there a predator about to attack you right now? Scott,
I'm just asking for a friend.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
My wife go away, all right? You know that made
no no, no, you just literally drove home from work.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
So anyhow, well, yeah, it's really good to have you on.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Okay, good to see.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Let's start at the beginning. Let's start at the beginning. Scott,
you built this amazing game.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Hih. That's my German. That's the first come and say hello. Yeah, everybody,
she's got to talk to girls.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
I haven't had a kiss yet on the on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
It doesn't matter, Jeff, probably other people anyway, all right,
So anyway, so starting at the beginning, and and Jeff,
I mean, Doug, you were there for the I mean

(41:20):
the beginning part of this stuff was like and I
literally was telling Soca about this, so s I l
K E and Germany like a Porsche is p r
s h E pronounced Porsche right, not Porsche. But anyway,
Soaka I had talked to her about my first encounter

(41:42):
with you, Doug, and that encounter was literally it was
the first year out of the cabin and we had
so much I mean, just crazy ship you can't even
make up, right, happened during that first year. And I
pulled into laundromat and I had all the I don't know,

(42:06):
if you're a game, you guys know what games game
bags are. But you know we have the silk game bag,
cotton game game bags. And you you know, you butcher moose,
butcher your caribou and you put the meat in the bag, right,
And the whole point is that you're keeping insects off
the bags. You hang them just outside of your camp

(42:26):
because you want to bring bears in your camp.

Speaker 10 (42:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
And I had killed I had killed a couple of
caribou that year, and I had the processed. I dropped
off the cariboo for processing. And then I I had
sent Dog a text message and I'm like, hey, I
knew you did this legend eat science thing. And you know,

(42:50):
the stuff that we have happy happening out of our
cabins just unbelievable. We can't. I mean, and I'm not
a believer at that point. Okay, I'm still not right.
But so anyway, I had talked to him about that,
or I sent him an email about that briefly. And
I'm sitting in front of his laundromat. I pulled in
front of this laundermat to wash these game bags. And

(43:14):
the sign in the front door says no game bags
because they know they're all blood fold. You know. They
don't want that stuff in their washing machines. And the
reason I was there is because I didn't want that
shit in my washing machines either. So but anyway, I'm
sitting there and Doug calls me, and that was the

(43:35):
first column that was really that was early on. That
was like three months into this whole thing where there
was so much crazy ist tough happening, and the craziest
tough happened for two years. And you can't make the
stuff up that happened, you know, And and Doug will
tell you, I'm a seven forty seven captain. I'm not

(43:59):
somebody that's I fly at four hundred million dollars yet
and the stuff that was happening you can't make up.
And I I mean, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I want you to just picture of flying of seven
to begin one. Okay, So the amount of skill and
bravery and that these guys have because you are just
flying them like over the US, You're flying them across
the Pacific Ocean, across the Atlantic, and.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
We do around the world home typically nine percent of
the reps I do. I take off and I head
westbound and when things look familiar again, I land where
I take off eastbound. And I think you know the
Brett name Brett Sipley, So no, I don't you should

(44:50):
know Brent because he is what's his name, doctor, the
guy in North Carolina, South Carolina. He's one of your guys. Oh,
the doctor. That's a the What'm I thinking of?

Speaker 2 (45:07):
The name's familiar to mean you're thinking about Derby or cut.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Now. But Brent simply is a good friend of his
and Brent simply is a friend of mine, has become
a friend of mine. And Brent simply is a MD
eleven captain. And I was the captain. I flew in
the eleven for twelve years and we just lost a

(45:36):
crew in Louis. The eleven grew and I know Brent knows. Okay,
I knew the captain was one of my first officers
for a period of time. But anyway, I'm at seven
forty seven captain, trying to I mean, I don't need
to bring that stuff in. But Brent is his become

(46:00):
a friend of mine, and he I'm sure you couldn't
even talk about this stuff. You know so.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Well? What was what was the first incident Scott that
made you go, what the ELL's going on. What was
the first thing that happened at the cabin. Yeah, at
the cabin.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Was literally Doug was the first trip out there. It
was the So it was myself and a friend of mine, Lou,
and Lou has not an outdoorsman, and we had we
had been out there for probably well. We went out
the first day to drop the morning anchor and then

(46:42):
we wanted to find the back property markers. We couldn't
find the We couldn't We found one of the property
markers in the back corner, we couldn't find the other one.
We knew where the front ones were, and that's really
what was important to us, because the front ones were,
we knew the cabin. The cabin was going to sit
close to beach, right, so we didn't care about the

(47:04):
back ones really specifically. But so Lou and I had
dropped the morning here, morning here and going up to
the to try to find the back markers, you know,
for the for the property markers, could not find those.
Came down and at that point we spent the night

(47:26):
of the boat and the next morning we got up
and we came ashore and we had two chainsaws with us,
and that's when we started what we knew where the
cabin was going to say at that point, and we
started blazing the trail up to where the cabin the
bench was going to be for the cabin. And we
had been blazing the trail the trail for about twenty

(47:50):
minutes or something like that, and we had to go
back to the beach because that's where I had left
the you know, the spare blades and this the chainsaw,
oil and gas and all that stuff. So we went
down there and we had been working on the saw
for probably two minutes and I don't even know if

(48:15):
it was that long, to be honest with you, Doug,
but and that's when actually, so we first heard a
it was it was a howl, I think the first time.
And then and Lou said.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
And I go, I have no idea, but it was.
And I'm an outdoorsman. I grew up in the outdoors.
A trap, I hunt, I fish, And I was like,
I have no idea what that was. And then maybe
five minutes, but we're both armed, so we don't really care, right,
we just are where we feel protected. So it maybe

(48:54):
three minutes, four minutes later or something like. I can't
even remember, But there was a scream that happened, and
then Lou was like, what was that? And I go, Lou,
I have no idea. I really didn't. And then two
minutes later it happened again. And but we're armed, so
we don't really feel unprotected, right right. So after like

(49:22):
fifteen minutes of excuse me, pardon me, setting up the sauce,
getting everything set up right.

Speaker 10 (49:32):
Yep, oh, I think, do we lose him?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Feet right? Four feet walk up to Las in the
trail going on, and so he spins around and he.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Whoops.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Oh m hm.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Now we can hear you, keep talking, we can hear.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
You, Okay, So we hear this huge splash and I
happen to be facing my boat. My boat was on
a mooring at that time. My mooring was about one
hundred and fifty feet fet shore from where we were. Right.

(50:26):
See literally the last flight or rock that is, it's
the size of food, and the rock sails into the
water fifteen twenty feet I see last fifteen twenty feet
of its flight. It lands in the water and Lou says,
what the hell was that? And I said, Lou, it

(50:48):
was a big rock and it's so far off your grid, right,
I mean, how can you, you know, grow up and
be in the outdoors and not. That's the one thing
I think that sort of triggered or made me think
that maybe this thing I didn't know shit about it, Okay,

(51:08):
But anyway, so there's this giant splash.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
And then.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
We both were a little disturbed by that, but we're
both armed.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Like I said, Scott, when you see a giant splash,
can you be more specific? Giant?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
It's actually as we're cleaning the rest of the trail,
lou came up to me and said, hey, did you
hear that whistle? And I said, what do you talk about?
He goes, I've heard a whistle. He goes, I've heard
it twice. And I go, I haven't heard it, and
but my hearing is so bad from being a helicopter
pil in the army. And anyway, he heard it twice.

(51:48):
And then we went out to the point, which is
where I ended up setting up my dock. But so
we were sitting on that point, and this becomes a
really important part of the story. So we're sitting on
that point and we hear what sounds like a hollow
baseball bat like a like a I can't describe it

(52:12):
as any other thing but that. But we heard this
hollow baseball bat and it becomes an important part of
the story because we would sleep on the boat during
the construction of the cabin, and we'd sleep on the
boat and we would get out there, and it happened
so regularly that I would bet people money. I was like, Okay,

(52:35):
within five or ten minutes, we're going to hear a
hollow baseball bat on the top of that hill right there.
And then within five seconds on the top the top
of that hill. And it was like NonStop. It was
every time that we went out there. Every time that
we would, you know, drop anchor, and it was like,
these things are going, Okay, They're gone. And I got

(52:57):
to tell you, I'm still an agnostic that point. I
cannot fucking believe that these things are real until I
see one standing in front of you head to tell.
And I just haven't had that, but we've had some
crazy stuff that sort of falls in between them. Little
that ship. Right.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Did you see that message jump, Jeff that David sent
you right now? David Ellis sent one of the calls
you recorded. Okay, so you haven't even built the cabinet.
Oh can you hear me? Now? Try now, Scott yours

(53:45):
Scott testing, try to unplug your headphones. You can't hear me?
Oh no, yeah, this is live from Alaska. Everybody so
long ways away. Everyone was maybe he should he reboot David.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, I just sent him a textaid we can hear you,
maybe reboot.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
All right, I'm gonna tell him too.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Well, I do have that clip.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah, let's play. Do you want to reboot Scott? If
you can, I just text him too.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Here, I'm gonna take you off screen here.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
So I'll take him off we'll get him back. Sorry
about that, everybody the fun, Well, let's wait on that.
Let's wait on the scream. Let's just let's just do
some marketplace stuff till he comes back.

Speaker 11 (54:51):
Sure, all right, it's now time for untold radios, odd, strange,
weird and any marketplace deals. Please don't let these gems slip.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Away things, he said Alaska trivia. How many times will
Scott drop tonight? You know that's a good question. I'll
predict three. Yeah, but it'll be worth it. It'll be

(55:24):
worth it, all right, So let's just do one and
we'll get Scott back on wave. If you can hear us, Yeah, okay,
you can hear us. Well, let's do one and then
we'll bring Scott back. So bring up the first one here.
So can you guys guess what this is? All I
know about it is this thing is flexible. It looks

(55:46):
like what a three D print? Maybe three Yeah, I
don't know the marketplace. It's called a bigfoot flexi print.
I would imagine it's a three D printed thing and
it moves. So what's the price? Who wants to guess
the price? No, it's not a stapler, Lee, I don't

(56:11):
think it is. It could be, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Oh boy, So we got some guesses here, a not bad.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Nobody's done exactly right. Mary, you're the closest.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Mary's I was the closest.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
It's thirty bucks, thirty tennessee, just about kneeling it right
when I said it. Okay, all right, well let's bring
Scott back on. Since Scott came back pretty quick here.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Ye, Scott, it's great that you guys cut me out
for any challenges where I could win like stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
It's not a contest.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
It's not a contest, Scott.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
This is absolutely assaulted competition.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
I believe it.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
We know you would have won that. We know you
would have won the Alaskan Trivia anyhow. Okay, so you
haven't even started building your cabin, you've got big foot
activity already having obviously you're kind of probably i'm thinking,
feeling like you're not welcome, right.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
And that's what you know, you're not a group of
guys that came out, there's two of them were scientists,
I think three actually, and they were convinced that it
was a territorial thing. And you know, in hindsight, I
think it truly was because of you know, just like
a big fucking rock Like I'm sorry, I apologize, where's

(57:48):
Alex to block before all that stuff? Anyway, I really
I think that you know, the big rock throw and
in the cabins are rocks hitting the cabin and stuff
I that were completely territorial. Yeah, and you know something
that it's I think it's like sort of like snow growth.

(58:10):
I really do. I think that what you experienced was
very similar to what I experience, and I think that
they were probably I don't want to say one is
on a bigger scale than the other. I think they're wrong,
probably the same scale. You know.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Well, it was consistent of there, and it's consistent at
snow growth. It's just consistent, like they don't like.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah, but Doug, it was consistent for two years, right,
and then the third year was very It was like
crazy how much it tapered off. And it made me
start doubting. You know, I've talked to other people about this.
It really made me start doubting about the existence or

(58:54):
the possibility or whatever. And I'm always I've always been agnostic,
but but when you have two years of like crazy stuff,
you know, the first time when I got to hold you,
I was a complete believer at that point because running
up as a hundred fish or trap and trapper that

(59:15):
I've never had experienced anything like that, and then having
experienced something like that and then not being able to
explain it, and that I think is the most important
part of the whole equation, is that somebody like me
cannot explain it, you know, and I don't. You know,

(59:36):
I'm not yet. I can't explain it. But yet I'm
still agnostic because I cannot. I can't put my finger
on this thing until I see one. Like I said,
I've told you a hundred times from top, from head
to toe, I see something standing there. But we've had
something that has happened that.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Okay, well I wanted I want to do this kind
of linear Okay, So the cabin's not built yet. You
guys got to bring a lot of materials out there.
You're going to visit it often. How often did you
get to go there?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Okay? So I was probably at the cabin every two weeks,
three weeks at the most, and each trip would be
five days, four or five days at the at the
at the start, right at the one year start. But
we talked about that right now. Yeah, okay, so at

(01:00:36):
the one you start, and literally it's probably been about
that for the first three or four years. It's been
we go out there, we have four or five three
or four days, I want to say, four or five,
three or four days, and then we come home for
four And at that time I was flying actively right

(01:00:59):
now out on medical but but we would go out
there for three or four days, come home four or
five days, go out, go back out, and then like
last summer, it was we're out there for five days
a week and home for three days a week or
two days a week, and but so the first two

(01:01:22):
years were like crazy active. The second year was really
sort of dolled down, and the third year it ramped
up again. And that's when the year that I had
my brother come out and he came at a caretaker
on the property. And the first the first day of

(01:01:48):
the first trip out there we did on that summer
that was not last summer, which would have in twenty
twenty five twenty four. So at twenty twenty four we
went out there, just him and I and dropped anchor
in the bay. He went ashore and we the first

(01:02:12):
night of the cabin, we were there and something hit
the cabin and it was epic. Whatever it was, it
moved the cabin. Something hit the back of the cabin,
and I know, I knew it was a log. It
had to be something big, right, something It was not
like a hand slap or something like that. It was
something that just felt big against the back of the cabin.

(01:02:34):
It hit the back of the cabin. It was a log.
And we determined I determined it was a log. We
did the next day, but there was a probably a
five foot log five foot long, maybe six inch diameter
that was completely rotted, you know, both ends. It was
a broken It was not something that you would think

(01:02:56):
that some you know, something had broken it off or
cut it off or what ever. It was just rotten
on both ends. And it hit the back of that
fucking cabin. I'm sorry, body mouth, sorry, Jeff ed at me, Alex.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Duke, sorry, We're getting rich if a nickel goes in
the jar every day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I know, I know, I think I paid you seventy
five dollars lifetime. Anywhere it hits, it hits so hard
it moved the cabin. I mean when you say it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Scott, you got to back up. You say it was epic.
It hit really hard. This is important. When can you
describe like how hard, Like give us a comparative, what
would it be?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
You know, you know what, that's really hard, Tug, I
really think that's hard. That's difficult. Right. So we're both
sitting there watching movie. It's only nine thirty at night,
but it's April fifteenth, the first week of April, so
you know Alaska, the first first week, the week of April,
the second week of April. You actually have darkness, right,

(01:04:04):
so it's dark out and whatever he hit the cabin
moved it probably three inches four to I mean towards
the beach. Right. You know, there's knee braces all over
this building. This is not this building is not weekly built.
It's it's well built. It's I mean, everything I did

(01:04:26):
was for earthquakes, right, because we have that problem up here.
We have one hundred a day in Alaska. Literally. But
whatever hit the back of that cabin, my brother jumped
off that couch. It was freaked out, ran outside and
I'm like, and I didn't get off the couch because

(01:04:47):
at that point it's so completely almost normal to me,
you know what I mean. It's not I don't want
to tathe normal, but it's it's just it's not a
big deal, you know. So anyway, so we had that.
That was the first trip that my brother had been out,

(01:05:07):
and that was two years ago. And then we had
last summer that was became and the summer that he
was here. So he became my brother became sort of
a caretaker out of the cabin, out of the cabins.
So we have the main cabin, right, and we built
three gas cabins. We planned on building four gas cabins,

(01:05:31):
but timing and work force, it just didn't work out
for us. I wish it had, and it became like
this thing where we could sort of have a side
bit of revenue. But it was not for bigfoot people.
We did not want that. We didn't want people out
there howling and hooting. We wanted the kayakers. We wanted fishermen.

(01:05:52):
We wanted people that wanted to go out there and
enjoy life and turnover you know, kids, turn over rocks.
You'd get you know, crabs and you know, little baby
eels and stuff like that. We did not. This was
not about bayfoot, right. But anyway, my brother had been
out there and we had built these three guest cabins.

(01:06:17):
We were trying to get the fourth one down. We
never did and he was putting I was in Hong
Kong at the time. I you know, as as we
mentioned before, I'm a seven forty seven captain and i
was in Hong Kong and he called me because he

(01:06:39):
was putting the hardware into one of the doors on
the cabin number two, and he felt a big hit
on the back of the cabin and didn't think much
of it, and then a second hit pushed the cabin
off the piers and he cracked ribs, crushed ribs, and

(01:06:59):
he called panicked. And I'm in fucking Hong Kong. I
can't do ship, you know, and now I know I
have to get home. But anyway, and I thank you.
Pictures of the cabin.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Yeah, I should have five feet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
It's my feet at least from that front court where.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
He I'm going to send you this, Jeff, Sorry, I
should have done it earlier. I did not. Would you
just send them to your text? Is that okay?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Jeffers onto either email or Facebook? So it's on the
I needed on the PC.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Okay, I'll do Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
That'll work.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
I will send this right now. Done. Since Yeah, it's
pretty crazy, it's really crazy. When he mentions I was
a little hit, it was pretty big. Well how did

(01:08:08):
he how did how did he actually get hurt? Scott?

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
He was Doug.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
He was actually putting a new hardware or putting in
the hardware for the door locks and stuff like that
for the front from the front door, and he's standing there,
he's inside the cabin because the dwarf swings inward right,
and he felt he just feels this bump you there, Yep,

(01:08:37):
he feels a bump. And then he said he just
knows the feeling. And you and I would know it
right if you felt the building being pushed off, and
that's what he felt. He said, it was shoved off
the fucking piers. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Well, I tell people about okay, I've told people my
story were the little cabin that I was in at
Snell Grove was being lifted off its blocks and people think,
you know yeah, right, yeah, yeah, no, it was being
lifted up in the air off its blocks and I
could see the floor flexing. Now there's an example, another

(01:09:16):
independent example of the power of these guys. Put the
picture of one En Jebb. It's insane. Yeah, it is
shoved how far?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
It went about four feet from uphill to downhill? Four
feet in that direction.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Right, wow, there's no way, there's no way. It was
a mechanical problem or construction.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
No no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
And it took me two weeks to get that thing
back on the feet. It literally, I mean, you look
at the building. It's so solid, right, it's squared up,
it's plumbed. But well when I say plump, it's leveled.
And all I had to do is get it level
the plot or the base plum level and stand it up.

(01:10:06):
But it was not. It was two weeks. It took
us two weeks to get that thing going in the
right direction. And then my brother so during the he
got hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
How did he get hurt, Scott? How did he get hurt?

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
He cracked He cracked ribs on his right side.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
But how.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Yes, from the building coming down and he was inside,
well you can imagine right he went. So he was
in that Okay, if you were to stand behind that
building and that front right is the one the part
that went down, right, he's in the front right part
of that building because that's where the front door is,

(01:10:51):
that's where the kitchen is, the dry kitchen. But that's
where he was, and when he got shoved, you know,
he went down with it so.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Super insane. I mean, that's just nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
And literally when I when I thought about this stuff, Doug,
that's like one of the first things I think. The
only story I've ever heard of is about snow Rog's cabins,
I mean about the the crazy stuff that was happening
yet there. You know, it's very similar to and I've
never heard of anybody saying that their cabin was knocked

(01:11:28):
off the Peers but I'm telling you what. When my
brother called me, he was crying. Fifty five year old man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Yeah, that's crazy. I'm gonna send Jeff another photo. I
don't think this didn't come from you. But just hang on.
You're gonna just freak out when you show you this.
I just kinda gonna find it, Okay, I'm gonna try

(01:12:01):
to find this photos. So okay. So we went back
to snow Groves, Scott two years in a row, just
the last couple of years. And each time we had
a lot of activity, crazy activity. But the last time
we were up there, the cabin got destroyed on the inside. Now,

(01:12:21):
you haven't had any break ins yet right where they've
gotten into the inside, Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Oh, looks like we lost him. Yeah, Scott, if you
can hear this, maybe've gotta do another reboot. Yeah text, here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Was this camera that misaligned when you did your test?

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Not quite?

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:12:46):
Not quite?

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Okay? Oh lord, a lot of text right now to reboot?
Should we do?

Speaker 9 (01:12:59):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Deck breakdown? Are waiting?

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Why don't you do that? Sorry, we're really jumping around, sorry, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Yeah, that's okay, keeping it interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
All right and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Okay, now hang on second, Jeff, just stand by. I'm
sending you another photo that will end up talking about
next time I sent it to your messenger again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
All right, I get it ready in the meantime, Yeah,
go ahead and tell us talk about my newest fine.
So I'm betting some of you have seen this on
uh on Facebook. It's a new pocket knife system. It's
a my system. May find a picture here here It

(01:14:06):
is the rocks on r O x O N. I'll
put the link up to the link and chat here
to the web company website. They've been advertising heavily on
Facebook and other social media. So I bought one. Actually
I liked it as much I bought three. And what
it is is it's kind of like a Swiss army knife.

(01:14:27):
I'm a huge Swiss army knife nerd. But the difference
is you can customize it. You can swap out the blades.
Look another picture here, so it kind of gives you
an idea so that the blades will pop out. You
can mix match customers and wherever you want. Here is
a just a partial. This is an older picture of
some of the utensils they make a butt. There's at

(01:14:50):
least ten more since this picture that they just can't
keep up. They keep coming up with new ideas.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
So they're all universal.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Right, you can the universal with with the caveat that
summer long summer short. So some knives have different I
have I have different sizes here, so I'll show you
there's there's two different sizes here, so I have them
both here this. The bigger one is called the Flex Companion.

(01:15:19):
The smaller one is called the Flex Companion Mini. And
they also have a multi tool that uses the blades
in it too. I got a picture of that here.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Here we go, and that's cool. What's cool about this
is again you could you could you could swamp out
all the you know, the player's part stays the same,
but all the other blades you can swamp out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
It's kind of neat too that if you kind of
you can tell. But the cutting blades there's like wire
cutting blades that it's a replaceable lad so you can
replace the blade in there. It's really comfortable. It's just
a great gadget. And uh, like I said, I I
kind of I watched a bunch of videos on it.
Took a risk. I ended up buying three of them,

(01:16:12):
and uh, I love them. If you see those ads
on Facebook, it's the real deal. Go and order one.
I think they're just a great knife, really huge fan.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Cool, make a good Christmas gift. All right, we have
Now we have also a surprise guest who's actually been
of Scott's cabin.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Hell all right, Alex Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
And he's also a friend of Scott's. Let's bring these
guys back up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
All right, they're Scott and welcome Alex.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Alex.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Hey, good to see you guys. Yeah, Scott, Jeff and Scott.
Of course.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
How's it going, man, I don't know, Scott, can hear us?

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
You're getting now? We can't hear you, Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Yeah, we've had a few technical problems, to say.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
The least, we're not hearing you. What else, Scott, maybe
check your settings if your mic has turned on, are
you plugged in? It's something working at.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
The stream Yard thing at the bottom. Maybe it's been weird.

Speaker 10 (01:17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Do you go through this too on your podcast? Alex?

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Yeah? Yeah, you know with stream Yard it's always you
never know what to expect. I remember, even when I
was doing my show Sasqutch Out of the Shadows, you know,
that was I was just getting started in the stream
yard and they're always changing stuff I haven't used in
a while now. But yeah, it looks like it's just
as problematic as it was.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
So well, Alex is working for small town monsters. You're
a director, a camera guy, a producer and editor. You're
just kind of writer. You're self contained, and Alex is
doing amazing work. And I was like excited when I
see guy young guys like you that are you know,

(01:18:00):
doing this because and you're doing it right.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
I appreciate that, Doug. And you know, I remember having
you on my show years ago, even you know, kind
of before someone I worked with STM when I was
doing my live stream and you were somebody I looked
up to because when I was a kid watching Monster Quest,
you know, all that sort of stuff. So it means
a lot coming from you. And yeah, Area A is
kind of the code name for this place that you know,

(01:18:26):
Scott's Cabin, and it's I've been there three times now
and I think about it just about every day. I mean,
I don't think there's really a day that goes by.
I don't think about it. It is the I mean
location alone. Like let's say you don't believe in Bigfoot
at all. Just that location is incredible. It's that temperate
rainforest that kind of stretches from basically the Pacific northwest

(01:18:48):
to that part of Alaska. You've got all types of
animals on land. I mean, we've seen just about everything
there except for brown bear, which we haven't physically seen.
I haven't physically seen one there, but black bear sign,
actually bear sign, I guess, mountain goats, lynx audio. We've
captured some of that, we believe. And then you have
that on land, and you've got these giant mountains that

(01:19:09):
just kind of stretch out of the ocean with these
temperate rainforests, and then in the ocean you have We've
seen humpback whales there. We've seen uh seal, sea lion,
sea otters, orcas almost I've seen you know, I've got
footage of a drone, footage of whales breaching. I mean,
it's just if the place is ridiculous, it's it's like
so untouched by man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
And then of course you have all the journey to
get there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Boat, yes, quite a boat trip. So you obviously heard
all of the stories from Scott. I think Scott's back.
Maybe you can pop men Jeff Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Can you talk.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
No audio?

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
No audio? Unplug your mic and just use the mic
on the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
Yeah, maybe that'll work. Just the computer or.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Whatever you're using. Can you use your cell phone? Got
your that don't work? You just hit that link with
your cell phone. Oh we love live.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yep. Always exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Oh gosh, that's such a heartbreaker. I hope he gets
it worked out.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Yeah, yeah, I hope it'll work on the phone usually.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
But you heard all these crazy stories and what was
the most memorable story why you wanted to get out there?

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
Yeah, I mean it was kind of the totality. I mean,
Scott reached out to me. He's a fellow former New Englander.
You know, I'm both from New Hampshire. It's funny he
actually lived a few talents from where I live now
when he lived out here. Just the whole story. You know,
he had this military background and you know obviously his
professional background as a pilot, like he has a very

(01:20:58):
respectable I would say, kind of pursued in life rights.
And when I heard the full story about why they
built the cabin, I mean they were doing this, you know,
they wanted a remote cabin. They weren't looking for Bigfoot
like that was not at all what crossed their mind.
And one of the stories that really stuck out to
me that Scott told me in the initial stuff was
he was talking to a local boat captain that he

(01:21:19):
had contracted to get some of the building materials out there.
He was mentioning the weird stuff going on in this
boat captain from that part of Alaska said, oh, that's
like Sasquatch stuff. And I remember Scott kind of saying, well,
I was like, I'm being serious, I'm not joking around,
and this guy's like, no, I'm serious. You know less Stroud,
and he brings up how he was contracted by less

(01:21:40):
Stroud's company when he was filming Survivor Man back in
the early days of it. You might remember this, Doug.
I know you were involved well with the bigfoot side
of things. But he had this weird experience and I
think it was season two of Survivor Man where he
went out to the Kenai peninsul of Alaska and was
deployed in this area and or these like guerrilla sounds.
And I remember hearing that interview on OPI and Anthony

(01:22:02):
when I was in middle Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
That was that was Les's first experience. Yeah, got him
interested in the topic.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Yeah, and what was so interesting was Scott mentioned, you know,
that he was talking about this captain and then I
was actually able to go back and watch the episode
with less and I saw it was the same boat
from Scott's pictures and I was like, that is you know,
the story connected for me. And that was one of
the many reasons. But just I got to know Scott
for about a year before we went out to the place,

(01:22:29):
and uh, I think it was May of twenty twenty
two was the first trip. And yeah, I guess the
rest is history. Was just amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Yeah, anyhow, Scott, I think we can hear you now,
can you?

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Okay, So anything that Alex said about me is bullshit,
completely whing No, He's a wonderful man. I really, you know.
The best thing I loved about having Alex out there
as small town monsters is that nothing was exaggerated, nothing
was to be something that it wasn't. And and I'll

(01:23:04):
tell you what, Alex and the boys had balls of
steel to go to places. Some of the places they
went to that you know, nobody else had been to.
And then I mean and little things like just attention
to detail, like that handprint on the back of the cabin.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Yeah, well, well let's talk about that hang.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Out and so the big thing about that that handprint.
Let me talk first, Doug.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
If you well, tell us how you found the handprint.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
I didn't, Doug Alice did.

Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
Yeah, but I was going to the outhouse one day.
It was like three days, right, it was like our
second to last day or something like. It was one
of the only days we had rain. And it was
actually after I heard this mystery gunshot that you kind
of hear out there, the audio of which I had
David Allis look at, and he had said that, you
know when you have gunshot noises, if you break them
down like spectrogram and Doug, I'm sure you know this.

(01:23:57):
And Jeff, you see like two signatures, right, because there's
the blast and then the after blast, which is what
we hear all the shot. Yeah, our our ears make
it one. And David looked at this mystery gunshot I
heard and said, you know, there was only one signature.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
There's not right, There was no there was no sound
barrier broken, but yeah, but it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
Sounded like a gunshot. I happened to be filming some
sea lions and everyone else was taking a nap, and
I remember then, you know, another person there heard sound
from their window and said, hey, I heard another one
while you're getting back in the cabin. But it was
like an hour after that. I'm going to the outhouse
and I'm just kind of like strolling behind the cabin
and I kind of just start looking up and I
see this greasy looking handprint near where there's like that

(01:24:37):
water tank, you know, really like kind of weird, awkward
position on the back side of the cabin. And I
was just like, that's kind of weird. I mean it
it was clearly a handprint, right, like, I don't I
can't say it was bigfoot, but it was. It was
like it had digits and you couldn't really see the thumb,
but there was the thermatic glyphics or whatever. Yeah. Being
actually when we collected that sample eventually, but I said, hey, guys,

(01:24:58):
you want to come check out this handprint. I don't
I know what's up with this. And we just thought
it was weird and we just documented it. That's really
all we decided to do.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
Can you describe it, guys? The handprint?

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Well, let me let me start. Let me start first, outs,
because the one thing that has been overlooked I think
by everybody that's looked at that that fingerprint or that handprint,
including Alex in until it was like we really need
to look at this, is that the the dermals on

(01:25:29):
that finger, on the fingerprints, they go left to right, right,
they go straight across the finger and they are not
like us where you have whoops and whirls and stuff
like that. It is just very It's so different to me.
And you know, Alix said looked at that stuff and
submitted it to some ape guy or whatever, somebody that

(01:25:52):
was looking at uh prince. But I think that the
one thing that was not pointed out was that how
different I mean, like a dog has you know, we
know what a bear looks like, like a bear looks
like a dog. I mean, it's just a flat, porous handprint.
It's not there's no dermals, right, But these dermals were
like were they straight up and down, Alex or straight

(01:26:14):
left and right? Something weird?

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
Yeah, I don't exactly remember. I know what I did afterwards,
like months afterwards, I Mike Lan I think you know
him as well, Doug. He had a professor in college
who did dramaticglyphics stuff, and he was like, you should
talk to this guy. And I sent it to him,
and he actually was a friend. He knew Grover Krantz.
He actually talked about sasquash with him at a conference

(01:26:37):
in like the nineties with this professor. He looked at
it and he was like, oh, to be honest, I
haven't done dermal work in like twenty years. Here's my colleague.
And he passed along the colleague. I don't remember the
guy's name. I have it all my emails from twenty
twenty two. But he looked at it and he thought,
you know, it's obviously it's a primate. That's what he thought.
He thought it was human. His opinion was, you know,
hard labor out there chopping wood. Maybe someone put their

(01:26:59):
hand up against the cabin and because you know, when
you're doing the hard labor, it's like the your your
hands kind of swell a little bit and it's maybe exaggerated.
And then somebody pressed the cabin. That's what he thought.
And I was like, I appreciate you get me your pain.
And then when Beans Baxter, I think it was like
a couple of weeks after we left, because we didn't
have the materials to collect that sample. I don't want

(01:27:20):
to screw it up. We had him do it and
then I believe he sent all of them to you, Doug, Yes, correct,
you have the he did. He did swabs. I think
he did five swabs and one attempt of lifting.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Right, because it's see what's left is this white whitish Yeah,
very unlike humans. Uh, I don't know. It's some type
of a surface skin lipid, I would imagine, but it's thicker, waxier.
It's different than a human. We don't leave such crap.

(01:27:52):
And obviously up there in the rainforest, it wasn't like
the white stuff was like dust. Yeah, it was was
the actual sea bum. It was like.

Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
The only way I remember we replicated it on the
front of the cabin by taking the only way we
could replicate it was I had like this, We had
somebody had hand lotion and we like put our hand
on it and like rubbed it on the front of
the cabin. Looked similar. No, And and that's the thing
that was too about the hand. The handprint on the
back of the cabin was by the time beads had
gotten there. Again, this is rainforest. It had already deteriorated

(01:28:28):
a little bit, so it was, in my opinion, it
was kind of fresh. And I know we had kind
of running theory that maybe in between people's trips out there,
maybe something had happened. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
When we duplicated that stuff on the front of the cabin,
like using hand lotion, it lastened like an hour.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
But you just tell that was like if we just
took our naked hand and did that, it just didn't
It wouldn't produce anything like that. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
What about what about the size, guys, I don't think
it was huge. It wasn't gigantic, but it was seven
and a half inches maybe, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:04):
It measured at all I have it somewhere written down,
but I remember what was weird was you couldn't really
see the thumb. You could kind of see it exactly.
And that's what we're at the hand.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
You know, when we talked to when we started talking
to David Allie, He's like, hey, was the thumb like
where you couldn't even see it? David Ellis was saying
this because David Ellis knew something about that, and we're
like that and when you look at these handprints that
I sent I think I sent you Alex, where you
have the handprints that that beans took pictures of with

(01:29:34):
the fingerprints like the zoomed in with dermals. And then
there was the next picture that is of an ape handprint,
and the thumb is like so freaking far back that
you can hardly see it. It's like way way way
way back here, and and that's sort of what we
saw on We were like, why are we not seeing

(01:29:54):
a thumb print? And David Ellis the first thing he
said was you're not seeing a thumb print, are you?

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
Yeah, that's literally I remember you texted him on the
garment because I'm pretty sure he texted you as well,
and it was like, you know, that's the first thing
David said. It was weird. It was the position of
it was kind of unusual. It was like in this
awkward kind of like putting your hand like this at
you know, five foot up. I mean, it was just
a bizarre position.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
And then put your thumb back like as far as
you could, literally your thumb would have to be almost
where your knuckle for your the lower knuckle for your
thumb is. That's where the thumb I mean the thumb
print would be, you know that far back. It was
really crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
I was there a smack on the cabin so oh
God preceded.

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
No, I don't think dog were Doug.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
We've we've had so many hits on that cabin, and
and David Ellis is the one that has literally found
all those recordings, and literally probably I would if I
were to guess seventy five percent maybe eighty percent of
the recordings where there's epic hits where you could hear
like it's a handslap on the cabin or a rock

(01:31:05):
thrown at the cabin or something like that, probably seventy
five eighty of those are not that while we're there.
They're like right night we the night we leave, or
the subsequent night, and the subsequent night is really it's
it's almost like they're trying to provoke us to try
to get up, to get out and get us come out.

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
And we thought like maybe they're checking to see if
anyone's still there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:31:30):
Yeah, you know, because one of the ones I remember
that David had found was I mean it's like a
loud smack sound and then maybe ten to fifteen seconds
after that you hear this like for Grount, Yeah, it's
a weird abish noise because that audio initially is what
really also I should say, really interested me. And Scott
was like, when I first started talking to him, He's like,

(01:31:50):
if you don't believe me, talk to this guy. He's
a retired biologist. Talk to this guy and you know
his buddies that he's taken out there. And you know,
we talked to one of the guys that was helping
build a play Victor and he was like talking about
trips going out there where they're sitting around and all
of a sudden they're having rocks fly right next to
them and they're like, dude, where are these rocks coming from?
You know, while they're sitting there around the fire, and

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it's just like the I mean, for me, it was
just like this is the stuff right immediately thought snow
Grove immediately thought that David Ellis has told me about
other cases in Washington State where there's like ongoing activity
at remote properties. It sounded very similar to, you know,
just this kind of behavior you hear.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
You know, it's funny because some of the things that
have happened that are audio I mean that we can
relate to with audio. David Ellis is like, oh, yeah,
that's so completely normal. I mean, that's like exactly what
they hear in the lower forty eight, what he hears
where he's at. So one of the things, one of
the real crazy sounds that we've heard that he is

(01:32:54):
a ship down, ship's worn. And I literally first time
I heard that, I recorded it and I thought, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
This is there's got no doubt. I hate to interrupt you.
Can you say that again? You cut out when you were.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Oh it was a ship's sound like a ship's horn.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
Oh ok, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
And and I really thought that. I was like, why
would a ship come into de Harbor into where we live,
you know, and there was no reason for it. It's
no reason for a cruise ship, no reason for anything
to come in there unless it's huge seeds outside, and
there's there wasn't huge seas, but.

Speaker 5 (01:33:34):
It would be dangerous for the ship, I imagine exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Yeah, And and we heard these these horns that sound
like it sounds like a ship's horn. And David is like, oh, yeah,
we've recorded that in Oregon or kind of a.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Metallic kind of a metallic.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Yes, exactly. And then and then the other thing, Doug,
is the freaking like a car dwarf slam. We've heard
that across the bay. I don't know if you've heard that, Dlex.

Speaker 5 (01:34:01):
Or not, but we heard the mystery gunshots, right. That
was what I heard the first trip out. We heard
mystery gunshot. You remember, we would We went and did
like a little excursion on a on the boat, on
a little zodiac, and then you guys thought we shot
a gun and you actually came to rescue us, and
they're picking us up and like, where were you guys
shooting at We're like nothing, you know, because we're all

(01:34:24):
armed out there. You've got brown bears and moose, none
of us. You know, we're all pretty competent, you know,
we're not just shooting guns for fun randomly out there.
But they had heard something that they thought was a
gunshot and thought it was us, and it was not us.
And then I heard it later that week, that first
trip out around we heard these these crystal clear knocks.
And I still have the audio of that three in
the four and the three four in the morning. We're

(01:34:45):
sitting around the campfire making jokes. This guy Rob Roy,
who who's been out there, who's heard a lot there.
He was making all kinds of jokes and loud impressions,
and then all of a sudden, the night was just
the silence was broken with crisp knock and then we
hear what sounds like being thrown into the water, but
you'd hear it hitting stuff along the way, and the
shore of the beach is rocky. You'd hear a smack

(01:35:07):
like rock on rock and then KerPlunk splash, So it
wasn't just like a seal splashing in the water. I
mean you'd hear it from the hill that went on,
and then there were more knocks, and we're just sitting
there listening, and we have audio of all this, and
you know, we're scanning with the thermals. And then the
night after that, we camped up on the ridge above
where we thought we heard this noise from, and we
heard these knocks. It was a little bit in between
rain and like stomping noises, and it sounded like it

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would get closer and then back off, and I was
at times trying to sneak out of my tent with
my thermal to see something. But there's these giant moss
like covered ground all around you. So it's very hard,
very hard to move around in there, you know, just
because of the amount of debris and like the terrain
and the rainforest. But we were hearing these knocks and
all this stuff, and then the mystery gunshot. And then

(01:35:51):
my second trip out there in twenty twenty three, I
was out there for two weeks and we heard almost nothing.
It was like it was raining the whole time too.
It was like, I mean the rainforest it was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
But that that was the one year Alex said everything
was dead out there.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
That was yeah. But we found, like I have three
D scans of footprints and stuff we found because we
really did some. We had a we had a friend
of mine, Damon Irons, who had a thermal drone and
we actually technically we proved that Sitka blacktail deer exists
in this part of Alaska, because according to the State
of Alaska they don't. But we have thermal footage of
them on drone and we found, like, this is a

(01:36:27):
three D scan of a footprint that we found back
in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Well, you guys found the deer too on the hill,
so this was interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
We've again it's hard to find tracks out there. And
then my last trip out there was this past summer,
went out with my friend Brian and Rob Roy and
then Scott and you know, we were all there in
the first day we heard this is the weirdest thing
I've heard. I don't know, And unfortunately we didn't have
it recorded because we were about to fly a drone
and the course of the rock rubbing it was like

(01:36:56):
right after we got there, Scott, you remember, it was like, yeah,
like we were about to do it was before the
rain set in, and I heard Me and Brian both
heard this. It was like fifteen twenty seconds of what
sounded like someone taking two rocks and going sh like
this rubbing sound. And we're like, I'm looking at Brian.
I'm on the staircase. He's down by the fire pit.

(01:37:16):
My camera's right in front of him, and I'm like, dude,
turn the camera on hit record. By the time he
did it, it's over, So I don't know. I mean,
we're thinking, like, was it could have been a rock slide?
I mean it sounded like it was around the corner
to where that creek is. Scott, Yeah, that's where it
sounded like it came from and then we went told everybody,
and everyone else was in the cabin or doing something.

(01:37:36):
So it was and that's the only thing we really
heard that this last trip. We did have a weird
incident in the rain one night.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
Where are so my brother? What's my brother out there
that year? Alex Or he was there out there the
year before?

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
Right, Well, you told me last year is when he
was out there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yeah, he's he's the one that he was building that
trail I remember to where the rental cabins are where
now we have rental cabins, I should say. And he
was building this travel or this trail and using just
taking gravel from the beach in the ATV that the
ATV has a dump bed on it. And he'd go

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up and down this hill with these two young guys,
and at some point he saw something running from left
to right going up the hill. He saw it go
through three trees, I think, he said, and he said
it was walking, but he said it was fucking hauling
ass It was going like way faster than a person

(01:38:36):
could walk up that hill. But he said it was
clearly walking. And then last summer, my wife and I
were out there and I saw something we're working on
cabin number two, and I looked up the hill and
I saw something that was jet black. And I can't
tell you what it was. Okay, I'm not going to

(01:38:58):
say that it's one thing or another, but whatever it
was dropped, it was probably I saw it from probably
waist high, and I was seeing probably sick or four
feet above that five feet, but it dropped. It was
almost as though somebody took a baseball bat and hit
the sing in the knees and knocked the knees out

(01:39:19):
from under it. It fell so fast when I saw it,
when I soon as I looked at it, it fell
so fast that you would have thought that somebody left
the thing in half. Somebody shot it in half. It
fell that fast.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
And then.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
So I have my wife up there with my Jack
Russell terrier, and my Jack starts growling and he's looking
up the hill and my wife says, there's something up
the hill above us, and I said, yeah, I know.
She goes, how do you know, I said, because Derby
is looking up that hill and growling and making noise.
And I said, how do you know? And she goes,

(01:39:56):
I saw something move from left to right that was
dark it wasn't black. She said it was dark, but
it went up that hill from left to right. It
was low, moving to the ground, but moving fast. And
that's all she could say. And this is a German
that doesn't, I mean she has. There's no bullshit. I mean,

(01:40:18):
if you don't, if you know any Germans, there's no bullshit.
And they can't. I mean they it's it's left or right,
it's right or left, it's black or white.

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
And that's what she very literal people.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
Yeah, so all of the sightings have been just glimpses
of things, but glimpses are real, you know. That doesn't
mean it didn't happen or it wasn't something weird.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
No, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
Wasn't there some door problems like you guys were having
out house stores unlocked and opened and left open, which
is kind of humorous. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Yeah, So the the outer house thing was it was
like the first two years actually, So we started out
with a I didn't have an outhouse. I had a
box that sat on the ground that had a toilet
that I bought at lows, you know, or home depot whatever.
It was just the box and we dug a hole
and that was a temporary outhouse, you know, you had

(01:41:14):
you couldn't be shy to come out to my cabin
if you have to go to the bath room, because
that's just the way it is. But we would come
back to the cabin and you know who would notice
this more than anybody because he was out there for
a lot of the early trips is Rob Royd. And
we'd come out to the cabin and he would find
that toilet forty feet away from where the hole is.

(01:41:36):
It was like it was chucked forty feet away. And
then another time the toilet seat itself which has you know,
obviously the seat that you sit on in the cover,
that stuff would be ripped off and thrown thirty feet away.
And it was just something weird that was going on
with that stuff. And then that happened for that happened

(01:41:57):
the whole first year.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
Actually very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Do you.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
Have the activity that I mean, is it still going
on still ongoing? Scott?

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Yeah, but not craziness like the first two years, Okay,
And I think that it's a little more subtle. I
think that the that the territorial thing is a little
bit subsided. But we're still finding track ways and we're
still having you know, like I said, my you know,
my brother and I going out there the first trip,

(01:42:32):
not this past summer, but some four having that epic
log thrown against the back of the cabin. And we
found the log and you know, six feet long, sixth
in diameter and completely roted, not like a cut log
or something like that. But I'm not. The one thing
that I'm not that we are not experiencing right now

(01:42:53):
is rocks hitting the cabin. Because it used to be
like you shut the door of the cabin and of
the NAWA c I had three of those guys out there.
We shut the lights off the cabin nine thirty at night.
It was first week at September, and rocks start hitting
the cabin, you can't. And it's just that sort of

(01:43:15):
stuff has not been happening so much.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
The small rocks Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Like probably golf ball size.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
Like whipped in the cabin really hard.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
No lobbed, lobbed, okay, yeah, just lobbed and like, but
nothing stays on the deck. They always like bounce off
the deck and you can hear them skipping across.

Speaker 4 (01:43:36):
Almost like they know what they're going to do. I've
experienced that same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
Yeah, but these guys.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
Sometimes they ricochet them and they'll land right at your feet.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
But we've had we've these are the yeah, yeah, was
that one of the rocks that was thrown?

Speaker 10 (01:43:54):
So that is.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
So I was on the back of the cabin, right
my buddy was on the front of the cabin. We're
closing up. Don't know if you know where the gable
endings is on a building, but most people probably don't.
So the gable end is the triangle shape of the
building on the back of the building, right the triangle
where the roof line is. And I was up on
the ladder closing up the gable end, you know, with

(01:44:17):
stitching it up with sheathing, and my buddy Lou is
on the front and he's cutting go I'd bark down sizes,
he'd cut the size, bring it around to the bottom
the ladder. I'd bring it up the ladder and nail
it off. And so we've been working probably an hour
an hour and a half. And at that time, I
didn't have a dock set up, and I had my mourning,

(01:44:38):
which is you know the moarning that everybody knows about that,
you know, we had that one hundred that fucking I'm sorry,
thirty pound rock got thrown one hundred and fifty feet.
But anyway, so he starts walking around towards the back
of the dock or towards the back of the building,
and I hear something that sounds like somebody's I am

(01:45:00):
the back door of my boat as hard as I could.
I mean literally slammed it as hard as I could.
And Lou comes around and he goes, hey, did you
shut the back door on the boat? And I go, loo,
We I pined the door open because so the way
my boat sits right the way it sits in the water,
if you just release the door the back door, it
will open up and it'll latch by itself and hook

(01:45:23):
you know, because if you're in a heavy seas that
you want you don't want that doors flying back and forth.
So there's a little latch on the back and we
latched the door. We hooked the door to the full
open position because I just wanted to air out the boat.
And anyway, so we hear this loud and I literally
at that point we had so many all there's between
us and the shoreline that I couldn't see the ocean.

(01:45:46):
So I came off the ladder. I walked down to
the beach thinking I'm going to see another boat, because
I could There's no way I could hear that kind
of sound and not think that it had to be
another boat, right, So I walked down there and walk
down and there's not a wake in the water, there's
no wave, there's nothing, there's no other boat out there.

(01:46:07):
And I was like okay. So I went back to
the gable end and I'm up on the ladder again
and Lou's cutting material for me, and maybe thirty minutes
goes by and we hear another loud bang. It's just
like it's like epic. It's like wham. You know, you
can imagine something hitting aluminum incredibly hard and my boat.

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
Is okay, But do you think they're mimicking these sounds?

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Guys, No, but we do have other sounds that I
can tell you about that are mimicked. So anyway, we
hear that second epic hit. I didn't come off the cat.
I come off the stairs. At that point, I was
off the ladder. I was like, yeah, whatever. So the
next day we're heading back to Seward, which is the
closest town, and I told Louis said Okay, I had

(01:46:53):
promised to take Halbert fishing on the way back, so
we went Halvet Fishing, got our limited halbut and so
we're running back to Seward. It's like one foot seeds,
like completely calm, you know, whereas normally we buck through
some big stuff. But it's completely calm. So I said,
Lou take the helm. I'm going to process the fish,
and then we don't deal with it. We give back

(01:47:15):
to the dock. So he's running the boat. I go
back there, process are a limited helbit and put everything
on ice. And then I started, I take my wash down.
I start spraying everything down. I'm spraying down my flaystation
and then I was like, okay, I might as well
wash the back of the boat. And as I'm starting
to wash the back of the boat, I look into

(01:47:35):
the corner as I'm spraying everything down, and that rock
that Alex just held up.

Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
That one wasn't this exact one, but it's similar to this.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
Yeah, there's one of those in the back of the boat.
So presumably we heard those two hits. One of them
probably bounced off the side of the boat, the other
one made it in because a rock like what he's
holding up up is sitting in the back corner of
the of my boats. And when we've pulled up to

(01:48:08):
when I've had my mooring out there, before I had
my dock and my skiff would live out there. We'd
pull up through the mooring or yeah, to the to
the skiff that's tied off the morning sixty sixteen foot
sciff and there be a half dozen of those rocks
sitting inside of the skiff. And it's like it's like
target practice, right. You can't you can't make it up.

Speaker 5 (01:48:29):
Robert calls them the rocks squash prefer joking. Yeah, I
mean they're everywhere. I actually have five or six of
them over there. I dug out. They're all along the
beaches there. The fishermen used to use this because I
imagine they're using the rocks was cheaper than leader metal
just and you actually we dug through the moss and
there's giant piles of them buried under the moscue.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
And there's one hundreds I don't know. Yeah, Alex, Alex
right by that by the storage shed, there's there's.

Speaker 5 (01:48:59):
That's where I dug him out. I was actually giving
them as gifts. I sent him to Shane Corson.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
You know, we'll explain, explain the netted rocks again, please
make sure.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
So I thought I thought that they were nets for okay,
So they had a lot of these they call them,
what do they call them, It's a it's basically it's
a kill net. Right. They anchor them, They anchor them
the shore and they run the net out and then
they put weights on the bottom of the net. And

(01:49:28):
they were doing that inside of the little bay that
I live in, or that we have our cabinet. And
the whole point of having that rock instead of lead
is because lead is expensive, right, you lose a rock,
it's a rock. But so anyway, they had all these
rocks tied off to the bottoms of nets, and they
were killing the crap out of you know, these these

(01:49:51):
salmon out there, which they got you, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
Because there's so many in one spot. Maybe that's where
they're manufacturing them. And then they just when they abandoned
the place or you know, who knows who did it,
they just left it there. I mean it it was
literally buried under moss. I mean, yep, you had to
dig through, and so it's been there for decades at
that point.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
Okay, a couple of audience questions. One, is there a
seasonal time up there that the activity is stronger or
where it ceases completely.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Well, we don't. I can't say for for sure about
any of that because we go out there about the
middle of April and we are done there by the
first week of October. So beyond that, we have no
idea because the seas just get too too big for
us to go out there. I mean we've had We've
looked at it. There's twenty two foot seats to get

(01:50:42):
around the corner to get to my cabin and my boat.
My boat's only thirty one feet long, and twenty two
foot season with thirty one foot boat or not fun.

Speaker 5 (01:50:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
I've been in twelve foot season. That was not fun. Yeah,
but that is not going to happen ever again, I
promise you. But it was just by by chance. It
was bad luck that I had to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
So have you guys had anything like left like gifts?
Have you noticed anything, Alex or something.

Speaker 5 (01:51:13):
I have long enough has had.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
I'm sure so, Alex, you know the story. So we
had five we had five game cameras up there above
the cabin, and I put those up there because we
found deer sheds, blacktail deer that are not supposed to
be there, and I wanted to fill in the deer.
I had nothing to do with this other subject. And

(01:51:35):
then four of the cameras were ripped off the trees.
The cameras, the straps were broken, the cases were broken,
and then one of the cameras was gone completely. And
then we're like, we're okay, so where's the camera? And
then I had a young guy that was with me
that put the cameras out. He's a friend of mine's
son that a fellow pilot for the company I fly for.

(01:51:59):
But anyway, he was like, I want to go find
that camera and I was like, I was like, dude,
you're not going to find they're gone. We looked. So
he went up that hill and rape below because he
knew where all these cameras were put in Raye below.
One of those, where camera number three we'll call it
was placed, he found an old timey hammer. Then I
still have that hammer today. It's like a nineteen thirties hammer.

(01:52:21):
It's not normal. It's not something we owned. And it
was sitting there. So that camera was completely gone, and
that that hammer was put in place, and then the
thing we had a splitting mall missing that came up
missing for three months. I bought a new one and

(01:52:43):
then the other one showed up out of nowhere.

Speaker 5 (01:52:46):
I love that one.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
Yeah, do you remember that one?

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
Right? Oh yeah, I remember you tell me that story.
And the old rusty chair. Used to find that like
rocks on the chair. There's an old chair there too. Yeah,
you know, it's one those things that like the you
know again, I've only been there for like certain periods
of time, but my only thing I noticed really was
that when it was heavy rain, there was pretty much
nothing going on. So and I imagine nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
It makes you wonder too, because I've I've noticed that
even at snow, they won't come around when it's raining.

Speaker 5 (01:53:18):
I think it's just nobody wants to be in that
miserable stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:53:20):
The only thing we had happened this last trip, aside
from that rock rubbing, we had torrential downpour one night,
but it was pretty much crrential downpour almost every night.
And we're staying in one of these little cabins and
we had these motion sensor lights going off randomly, and
I forgot that. Yeah, and that was like we were
kind of it was myself, Robbery and Brian and we're

(01:53:40):
like we would go to the little windows in the
cabin with the thermals and look out and we're looking
and I'm half expecting something to run through the brain
and I'd see it in the light, but it was
like one light kept going off and only one other
light was triggered. And I can't say what that was.
I mean, it could have been a glitch. But it
was the guy who installed them, who was there, was
telling us, you know, those they're made for larger objects,

(01:54:02):
you know, like not little rodents aren't going to set
it off. It's made for you know, something deer sized
or bigger, right, because you're trying to set off for people.
That was that was kind of weird. But we never
saw any. So there's just a whole if you like,
take the whole story, there's just a lot of things
going on that kind of paint a fuller picture that
kind of fits the pattern of what is reported and

(01:54:23):
what you've heard about for decades.

Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
Doug And oh, yeah, well I've experienced Jeff. I sent
you a couple of pictures on messenger. Can you throw
one of them up the cabin. I I want to
there's a correlation. Okay, do you guys see that that's
the snow grove cabin. You see the tree that there

(01:54:45):
was no damage to the cabin at all none. Okay,
so the cabin I sent you another picture of the
damage on the inside. Recently, something broke into the cabin
again again again, ripped the doors. All the hell went
in there. I remember now, guys, there's not one scratch
inside the cabin, no teeth marks, no scratches, completely destroyed

(01:55:09):
the inside. They they then two of the guys stayed
there and they you know, hauled materials in. They put
everything back together. That's the cabin on the inside after
the last round of damage, the torque, cupboards off, all
sorts of crap, but didn't scratch. Yeah, and so okay,

(01:55:30):
so they get the cabin fixed up, and then they
come back to this to new lock on the door,
and that's when that tree then put the tree back up.
That's when they find the tree blocking the entrance to
sell growth. And there was no wind or anything that night,
which is absolutely nuts. So yep, that's the kind of

(01:55:56):
feelings that they have in the cabins. They wreck it,
they fix it, and then there's still like, no, we
still don't want you here. And they pushed that tree
down and block the thing, but did not wreck the
outside of the cabin. It was like laid down gently.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
And what's crazy to me is that, you know, despite
all the stuff that we've had happen out there that
you know, I come out in the spring time and
I expect to see windows broken and stuff like that,
and I've never found any of that. I mean, that's
just just I mean, no dents in the steel, no
metal siding or right, just crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:56:31):
Yeah, it's it's kind of nuts. But what was scary
this one time they did discover that they can break
the glass, and so we had we were there were
the glass and the on both doors was broken out.
And that's what scared us because we just found out
about it and then we had to go there AND's

(01:56:53):
the last time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
When's the last time you were there?

Speaker 4 (01:56:57):
Twelve months ago? Yeah, so it wasn't that long go.
That'd be a great place for you to go sometime, Alex.

Speaker 5 (01:57:03):
Yeah, I'd love to. That would be obviously. You know,
I remember hearing that story back in the day, and
I think it's like the early days of YouTube, and
there was that clip of your son talking about what
was going on. Yeah, and it was just like and
and there was meldrome of course, and then that other
professor remember his name, Yes, that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:57:23):
No, it's just it's just interesting the similarities, especially when
I when Scott sent me that thing with a cabin
got pushed off its foundation and is it like up
on stilt step? Can you explain?

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
It's on pures. So what we did was we so well,
what we do is we set we dig you know,
the post holes, right, and then we put a close
cell phone which is stronger than concrete basically for lateral movement.
So we put close health phone down there, and then
knee braces and then you have your beams, your lateral supports,

(01:58:04):
you know, you know if your vertical sports, which are
the post and the lateral supports.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
With the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:11):
Knee braces. But it is rigid, it is I mean,
my big cabin is has not moved an inch, you know,
there you go. It was my little cabin.

Speaker 5 (01:58:24):
That's kind of what yeah, that's sort of the foundation,
but the big one obviously is a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (01:58:30):
Well, what did you think Alex when he I'm sure
you shared those photos of that big or that the
red cabin that got just pushed off its foundation.

Speaker 5 (01:58:39):
But yeah, I remember he messaged me right after it happened.
He's like, I'm on a trip. My brother. He called
me freaking out. He wants to leave. And what I
thought was interesting was the fact that his brother was
there alone for a period of time. He was doing work,
and what initially created some of the activity was you
guys cutting logs. You're doing work, right, and it's like

(01:59:00):
like what Cliff talks about the Virgin Sasquatch, where you
have these areas where you know, maybe there isn't a
lot of people presence. You know, you go to the Olympic,
commercial forests, the parks, they have stuff, there's always people
out there, so maybe these things act differently when there's
more people around. But out there, you know, there's nobody
really there living permanently. So you guys are out there
and then one guy suddenly is there for like a

(01:59:21):
number of weeks doing a bunch of stuff, and they're like,
let's see, maybe they're just they want entertainment, Like let's
get a right rouse out of this. Guy and throw
some stuff at him and mess with them.

Speaker 4 (01:59:30):
You know, who knows that could be a write of
passage for a young one, right teenager.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
You know what the dog, the all the you know
when we had all those small rock throws and everything
that occurred, when we still had all those alders between
us and the beach, you would see small tracks like
twelve thirteen inch tracks inside of the alders before we'd
have rock throws and nothing on the snowprints.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
I remember seeing photos of that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Yeah, and then we would see the big up the
hills up above that bench, Alex, you know what I'm
talking about, the bench that goes to the right to
the upper fire pit. If you go create straight up
that hill, that's where we would fire the bigger tracks.
And then that's also where we would put the string traps.
We had string traps going across left or right helters, yep,

(02:00:20):
all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:00:20):
So yeah, I remember, I mean just that's where we
heard the upper fire pit. That's where we heard those
I mean, those knocks were so clear and they sounded
like that percussion instrument that the jam block. They sound
like that, it's got that snap to it. That is
just and then that with the rock throws. So yeah,
we've heard stuff there. I mean just the trips I've
been there obviously.

Speaker 10 (02:00:41):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:00:41):
The biggest thing, like I said earlier, was that when
it was heavy rain and just rain in general, there
wasn't a lot going on. It was the times before
the rain or the rain settled down. That's kind of
when we heard stuff. And it's again it's it's an
incredible place, and I think, yeah, these things could move
two bays over and you'd never even know that they're there,
right because for whatever reason, and I think it's maybe

(02:01:03):
the human interest that they have that's why they keep
going back. I mean, that's why it's just sporatic, because
it seems like they were aggressive in my opinion at first,
because they're like this guy's building a cab and we
need to get them out.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
Something like I think I've heard Doug say before. It's
like we're TV for these things, you know, we're not.
This is like for us to be able to it's
like entertainment, you.

Speaker 5 (02:01:24):
Know, it's like, hey, you're talking aboudy, Hey let me
throw a rock at this guys. Let's let's see the
reaction like these you know, humans start freaking out. I
mean when we were sitting there four in the morning
telling jokes and all of a sudden, that knock broke
through the night and that sent us into like a
frenzy in worl. We've all got thermals and cameras and
we're kind of like dumbfounded, and we start looking around.

(02:01:46):
I bet they were getting a kick out of that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
You know, Jeff, do you have some sounds that you
can got a.

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
Couple of them here?

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
I got a bunch.

Speaker 2 (02:01:55):
Here's the first one. This is uh, it's called the
long distance vocal.

Speaker 1 (02:01:59):
I love that One's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Sounds pretty wild by the way.

Speaker 5 (02:02:40):
Yeah, that's by David Ellis, says.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
David Alice found that sound and after another group said
that there was no sounds on the stre on the recordings,
when I was like, I think there's sounds here, and
they're like now and then David Alice goes, how can
they not have heard this? But that same audio was
sent to the leading biologist for the state of Alaska
for Alaska turbo wolves, and he said, I said, is

(02:03:08):
this a wolf? And he goes, absolutely not. He goes,
so where were you at? I said, I'm not saying that.
He goes, well, what was that? And I said, I
have no I can't tell you what it is because
I don't know. But he said, absolutely not a wolf.
And you listen to the cadence and the pitch and
how it the crescendo right, just the way a wolf sounds,

(02:03:30):
and typically a wolf is it's not just one wolf.
But that was not a wolf and that was that
was absolutely verified by the And also wait, wait, wait, wait,
let me get to this story. So there was a
guy here in Alaska that sent that same recording. Was

(02:03:53):
all right, you finish it, Alex, please.

Speaker 5 (02:03:55):
So he sent it to like a primate research facility
that's did gibbons in I think southern California. He played
it for him and they thought it sounded like you're
like a gibbon white.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
The leading biologist said that's a way to gibbon.

Speaker 5 (02:04:14):
And he was like, well, that was recorded in Alaska.
And they were kind of like, oh, that's much to say.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
They said, it's not possible.

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
Well, you guys have heard Scott. You've heard like baby
or baby cries some weird.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
Like okay, so I've heard the baby crying one time
and it sounds. To me, it sounds and I tell
people it's like it's the point where an infant starts
forming speech, but they don't. They can't speak yet. And
and I've heard it one time, but other people have
heard it. I think we've heard it three other times.

(02:04:49):
But I've never been part of that, you know, hearing
of that sounds for those sounds, but it is only
when women are out there. It's I mean that it's
almost as though, oh, no, you were part of you
were part of the group Alex that figured out well.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
Doctor Robert Alley was the one that said when he
when I told him about the sounds that we I
had longed I put him. I had kept a journal
the first year of the cabin and I'd written that
in about the you know, about these baby cries, And
I said I had no idea what they were. I
really didn't, And I said, I said, doctor Alie, So
I said, I heard these sounds. I don't know what
they are. And he goes, do do you have women

(02:05:32):
out there? I go, I don't think so. And I
literally it was my wife's best friend's birthday and it
was the one trip I had women out there that
first summer, and I had two I had three women
out there actually the first one and only trip of
that summer, and it sounded and I didn't record it
that first time. I just heard it that first time.

(02:05:54):
And then the second time was a year later, and
they were one of them was berry Pick and the
other one was whether he's in the outhouse. But they
both heard the sound, and when they heard that, they
didn't tell each other because they didn't want to fix
each other out. And then they told me about it
the next day, and I said, well, if you heard it,
I recorded it, and that's the recording that you probably have.

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
Yeah, I like that one.

Speaker 5 (02:06:17):
That's probably my favorite of all the audio.

Speaker 4 (02:06:19):
You have any more recordings, Jeff, do?

Speaker 5 (02:06:21):
I do?

Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
I've got one more here. This one says it is
gibberish voice, two grunts. This it's from Alex I believe,
hold on a second.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
Was that my that's fucking yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:06:51):
I think David found those. I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
Yeah. And again that was a five times loop.

Speaker 5 (02:06:57):
Well, because he started putting out audio based off it's
recommendations too, and then it put out one of those
song meter like wildlife recording ones.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
I've spent a thousand dollars in that fucking thing.

Speaker 5 (02:07:10):
Ye swear jar will be filled tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:07:15):
It's he's he's paid me in salmon. Apparently he sent
me some fresh smokes.

Speaker 1 (02:07:27):
No, no, I did not as far as you know,
but I sent down a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:07:36):
Anyhow, Okay, So have you guys tried? I got a
whole bunch of questions. One, you guys leave or have
you left audio recorders up there on a regular basis? Scott?
Are you doing that? I have more?

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:07:51):
And you live well there for a long time until
they go dead and then you pick them up. Or
what's the well I have?

Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
But I've stopped because I just don't have time for it.
But and I should, I mean I truly should because
I have the the song meter which I can hold.
It holds a terabyte, right, I can I can send,
I can literally have I can record, which I have
from October and through April of the next year.

Speaker 4 (02:08:19):
So interesting, Have you guys tried gifting anything like food,
peanut butter, anything?

Speaker 2 (02:08:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:08:30):
Rob the peanut butter, that was pretty funny.

Speaker 4 (02:08:33):
What's the story?

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Well, we had he put a jar up there and
it was obviously it was taken after about a week
and he felt as though in the bottom of the
jar there was leaves like these wide body leap, like
like a huge leaf like something you would and he
thought that they were using the leaf to sort of

(02:08:59):
scoop out the peanut butter. But anyway, so that he
had put the lid on the pinnut but jar. It
was on a stump that was about five or six
feet high, and the lid was taken off. It was
not chewed up. It was not a black bear, because
BlackBerry will chew everything and eat everything plastic, no teeth marks.
The lid was taken off, and then he did the

(02:09:24):
same thing, and then with a second jar, and both
the jars were taken off that stomp, and both the
jars we couldn't find them. This was I think the
following spring actually, and they were like fifty feet away,
laid side by side, no lids on them, no tee
marks over the you know. It was just really a

(02:09:45):
crazy sort of yeah, crazy sort of thing. Hey, Alex,
check your email.

Speaker 5 (02:09:50):
Yeah, I'm trying to send it to Jeff right now.
That's the baby sound I can send.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Yeah, yeah, well I don't have his I do that.

Speaker 5 (02:10:00):
Yeah, I'll send I have his email. I'm sending it
right Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
I'm watching here right now, and that and that is
the one thing.

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
So but I have to tell you, John, the biggest okay,
so the most I think the biggest tangible thing evidence
thing that I've seen out of this cabin would be
the that handprint with the dermal riches. I mean, just
because they were not a bear print, and just because

(02:10:28):
the lines were straight left and right, they were not
like us with woods and swirls.

Speaker 4 (02:10:34):
And the thing is, Scott, that's so amazing is that
a human could touch that sighting all day long, would
never leave any mark that. I mean, it's so it
just isn't a human.

Speaker 2 (02:10:46):
It can't be.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
Well, what's crazy is that how the hell Alex found
that thing? I mean, I don't know what watch. It's
not like I was like, hey, Alex, maybe look at
the back of the cabin.

Speaker 5 (02:10:57):
Hey. I was completely uninitiated. I literally was just you know,
it was like one of the days where it wasn't
we had beautiful weather that first trip out there, and
this was just one of the days where it was
kind of like overcast. We'd heard that gun shot and
I went to the outhouse because you got to walk
a little ways to get to the outhouse. And I just,
for some reason, Doug, I was thinking about some of
the stuff you had told me years ago about sebum

(02:11:17):
and all that stuff, and I'm like, I took my
phone light or maybe I had a flashlight with me,
I don't remember, and I just kind of like looked
the side of the cab and I'm like, okay, what
is that. No, this was in the daytime. I was
just when you actually point the light, you know, like
the flat siding of the cabin, you point it, it
kind of helps it pop. And you can see in
the video we filmed the whole thing and you could

(02:11:37):
see like shining the light on it, you could really
see it kind of pop. Just but I was like, Okay,
what's up with this? And I called everybody because I'm like,
you guys want to look at this. Totally random again,
I just like a random whim on a whim just
walking past there. And then we documented it and we
just didn't feel confident enough to collect it because we
didn't have the right tools and beans had like a

(02:12:00):
enforcement background.

Speaker 1 (02:12:01):
The first two people that I called and that was
with you there. Alex was Doug and then David Ellis.
That was the first two people like that. I reached
out to you. I was like, this is there's something
special here, and I think it is.

Speaker 5 (02:12:16):
Yeah, I remember that he had the garment you were
texting him, because that was before the internet, before this
the elon thing. What do you call it? The yeah, gosh,
I forget uh Steve.

Speaker 4 (02:12:27):
Steve asked how far up the handprint was on the cabin.

Speaker 10 (02:12:32):
It was like.

Speaker 5 (02:12:34):
Chest chest height, maybe around five or something. Fet just
got five or something feet.

Speaker 4 (02:12:41):
I would say, oh, by the way, Loretta asked, what
kind of peanut butter went branded peanut butter? Where's your question?

Speaker 5 (02:12:51):
Generic stuff?

Speaker 4 (02:12:52):
Just generic peanut butter. I know peanut butter. They just
love it. I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (02:12:58):
Well, Roberie said it was weird because he had put
multiples and one of them was damaged, and one of
them had the leaf and the other one had like
you could tell they were a little like raccoon or
not raccoon, but little critter bite marks because there's porcupines
that there. There's no raccoons to my knowledge. But so
one of them was okay, the other one was I
had this big leaf kind of stuck in it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
So, yeah, I got that clip that you stand to
Alex the audio clips. So this is this one is
the bababy sounds apparently yep, really creepy. Wow.

Speaker 5 (02:14:14):
I guess looped because David Ellis.

Speaker 4 (02:14:16):
Doesn't, right, But just so you guys know, Okay, so
I haven't told anybody of this, but I played those
sounds at snow Grove. No you did, Yeah, of course
I did. And guess what we got? Talking? Oh, very
recorded talking then interesting same same night, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(02:14:40):
and I obviously well here, I'll just play it real quick.
You can call it gibberish, you can call it whatever
you want. It sounds like your brain kind of makes
up what you think it might say. It talked right
into a mic on one of our cameras, and hold on.

(02:15:01):
We heard it live, which was really interesting. So just here.
Of course, always when you want to do something, you
can't find it.

Speaker 5 (02:15:11):
I know I can't find the hamber.

Speaker 1 (02:15:14):
Was this last summer, Doug?

Speaker 5 (02:15:16):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:15:18):
It's either last summer or the summer summer before last,
just over a year ago.

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
All right, Jeff, can I send you? Can I send
you those handwrits?

Speaker 4 (02:15:28):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (02:15:31):
Do you have his email? Scott.

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
Well, I've got his text message.

Speaker 5 (02:15:35):
Okay, perfect. Yeah, I mean in regards to the baby stuff,
I'll just say, you know, because it happened so so
much as women, that was where it kind of the intrigued.
So we tried an experiment one of the years we
went out where we brought out Rebecca, Rebecca Spencer of
the Olympic Project to try to see if maybe that

(02:15:57):
would entice something. We didn't get anything. Was the year
when it was extremely quiet and when it was raining
the whole time, so we had nothing going on. But
it's worth a try, right, Like, I'd be really curious,
you know if you had a full team of women
go out there and you know what would happen kind
of things. So it makes you wonder, Scott.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Scott's still there, Yeah, I'm here. All right, Here we
go coming at you.

Speaker 10 (02:16:29):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:16:29):
So so, Jeff, I just sent you those pictures. Okay,
you're gonna see the first picture with the full handprint
on the back of the cabin. But the second picture
just look at the Look at the dermal riches they're
left to right, they're just lateral. And then look at
the handprint on the third image of the ape, which

(02:16:50):
is a left to right, don'al rich? I mean when
you look at it compared to a human being.

Speaker 2 (02:16:59):
Yeah, give me a minute. Sure, I gotta I gotta
pull these from my phone here and get him on
the back.

Speaker 4 (02:17:07):
So Alex, uh Andrew just did a super chat question, Alex,
why haven't you ever talked to uh timber Jint Bigfoot
and took time to look at his area?

Speaker 1 (02:17:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:17:25):
I I remember watching his videos like some decade ago,
but I don't think he's doing stuff anymore.

Speaker 4 (02:17:30):
Yeah, it's some really compelling stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:17:32):
It was up in Ontario. I remember some kind of
controversy with him. I don't know. I just I haven't
done a whole lot of stuff in Canada, to be honest.
I've done just British Columbia.

Speaker 2 (02:17:41):
And I drove to Alaska and that's I'd love to
talk to him, but I have no contact.

Speaker 4 (02:17:45):
Here's that. Here's that talking at Selgren. Let me play
it real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:17:49):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 4 (02:17:56):
Here So it wasn't like.

Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
Crap, that's weird.

Speaker 4 (02:18:12):
Made us turn a whay.

Speaker 5 (02:18:15):
You guys heard that in real time?

Speaker 4 (02:18:17):
Real time middle Well, that's what everybody said, because it's
like ev.

Speaker 10 (02:18:25):
P, but.

Speaker 4 (02:18:27):
You know, I don't even know what it.

Speaker 5 (02:18:29):
You know, an ev P, you know, mimicking like something
mimicking you talking.

Speaker 4 (02:18:34):
No, No, it's I mean, it sounds very Native American
and apparently David did a lot of He did a
lot of work and it fits with the the normal
bigfoot you know, that's some of the stuff. It's just
so clear because it was right near a microphone, kind
of like the Morehead stuff. So at some point I

(02:18:54):
hope to get it to like I'm hoping Scott Nelson
will take a look at it. It's pretty interesting. Anyhow,
All right, back to you guys, there's a recording Jem.

Speaker 5 (02:19:08):
He was sending him the pictures.

Speaker 4 (02:19:10):
Oh are you planning on going back up there?

Speaker 5 (02:19:24):
Alex, Yeah, I would love to. You know, obviously, I'm
eternally grateful to Scott for not only inviting me up there,
but yeah, he's just a fantastic guy in general, you know,
just like I said, I got to know you before
we got went out there initially, and it's just been
a blast every time. You know, weather aside, because sometimes
you get a week straight rain, and one of the

(02:19:45):
times we were there, I actually got sick out there too,
so I was like bedridden for a couple of days
and that was not fun. But it's just like I said,
if you don't factor in any of the Sasquatch stuff,
that place is still one of the most beautiful places
in the world because you're gonna see all the other
wildlife that lived there. And for me, it's just like
if there's a place for these things to be unmolested

(02:20:07):
doing their thing, like this is just ideal habitat. And
you've got thousands of miles you can go from there
to the area where les Stroud had his encounter, all
the way down to Port Chatham. That's the same coastline
where you've got thousands of miles of this, bays and
inlets that all look the same. I mean, it's and
they all these areas have reports, you know. I talked
to people up there in Alaska, in Fairbanks. I went

(02:20:30):
to like a convention, a Bigfoot convention they did up there,
and I was hearing from people who grew up in
that area in Keenaie Peninsula talking about, oh yeah, stories
of the hairy man. It was kind of pretty normal,
like there was a lot my buddy Chuk he does,
like he's got a YouTube channel is hunting and fishing
and hunting and guns and stuff. He grew up in Homer,
He used to go fish near Port Chatham, and they
heard all the stories growing up there about weird stuff

(02:20:52):
and it's kind of just like a part of the
lore there. And my favorite part about Scott's story is
that he ever went looking for this stuff, right, He
just he was a guy who was just living the
Alaska dream, wanting to build a cabin, and this stuff
kind of fell into his lap like that. And that
is I hear that time and time again with some
of my favorite witnesses and people I've talked to over

(02:21:13):
the years that my buddy John will who is a
park ranger and saw one, you know, Scott. Other people
my buddy intent can't encounter snowmobiling. That's like they're not
looking for anything, and this just stuff starts happening. But
I think Scott's case is unique because it's this property
where you know, these things have millions of acres, like
there's no limit to where they can go in that area.

Speaker 2 (02:21:34):
So yeah, that's uh so here's uh, here's the picture
you sent there.

Speaker 5 (02:21:40):
We go one of them that's the cleaned up I
think that was Beans's.

Speaker 1 (02:21:44):
Uh, when you got the initial picture right there, right,
I don't think that was Dustin.

Speaker 5 (02:21:50):
I think that I'm not sure if that's the one.
I think that's the one Beans did. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (02:21:56):
Yeah, I I know that's his picture, but I don't
know if that's dusted.

Speaker 5 (02:21:59):
But because when when when he went, it kind of
deteriorated a little bit. Yeah, I really don't know if
I have the pictures anymore on.

Speaker 1 (02:22:05):
This compos two or three weeks later.

Speaker 5 (02:22:09):
Yeah, you guys went fairly quickly. Yeah, I don't know
if I have them because three years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:22:16):
But Jeff, if Jeff, if you go to the next picture,
the one I think it's finger number three, Okay, that
shows you the dormal ridges.

Speaker 5 (02:22:28):
I mean, oh that's I remember David telling me about
the dog.

Speaker 1 (02:22:35):
That's a very strange story right there. So look at
those dormal ridges. They go straight across, they're lateral. They're
not whirls and swirls like you and I have. I mean,
you look at your finger, look at any human beings finger,
and they don't.

Speaker 5 (02:22:52):
It's going over the ridges on the on the siding there.
It's like it's not a straight siding. It's got these
bumps and this handprint was kind of going over and again.
It was that really weird, awkward kind of angle. Like
we tried to replicate it, you know, and you couldn't
really get it was just a strange angle to put
your hand kind of like this, you's very contortion is like, yeah,

(02:23:14):
that's why we documented. We thought it was weird and
I really hope something will come up. The samples they're
doug and I guess we'll see. I mean, because it's
you know, it's like one of those things that you
get excited. And that was that was like towards the
end of our trip there that first time. But it
definitely obviously we were pretty excited.

Speaker 4 (02:23:31):
Beans did a really good job at documenting.

Speaker 5 (02:23:34):
He filmed the whole thing like he did. You know,
he's bringing his police background to it.

Speaker 4 (02:23:38):
And yeah, very very cool. By the way, A happy
birthday to missus Penticov.

Speaker 5 (02:23:48):
Oh, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:23:50):
Yeah, and mister if you.

Speaker 5 (02:23:54):
I think it's these iPhones have a mind of their
own with the calendars, yeah yeah, yeah, no, I you know,
I'll get out of your guys here. I got to
help off here. In a minute anyway, but I just
want to come on and share some of the stories.
And yeah, it's been like just to kind of conclude,
you know, it's been one of those places that you know,

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I've traveled all over the place and I love you know,
Bluff Cree, British Columbia, all these different areas that are amazing, right,
I love them, all New Hampshire. I'm here up in
New Hampshire, may and all these locations. But there's something
special about Scott's little piece of he in there that again,
I think about it, like every day Bigfoot or not,
there is something captivating out there, and I think that

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these things are out there. I mean, our experiences kind
of say that. Can I prove it not really, but
hopefully we will at some point, and I hope that
it will be you know, somebody, if it's not me
or somebody else that goes out there, gets like something
definitive that you know, obviously we all kind of hope that.
But hopefully some of that stuff that we sent you,
Doug can yield something, and if not, it will we'll

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continue the continue the search to speak. So thank you,
so yeah, thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:25:06):
Happy birthday News shake buddy and send my best.

Speaker 5 (02:25:09):
Okay, absolutely, I'll talk to you soon, Scott, all right,
take care buddy. All right, guys see a Doug and Jeff,
thanks again.

Speaker 1 (02:25:16):
Twos s and docked.

Speaker 4 (02:25:20):
Okay. And what was the name of the doc that
they did? It was small dumb Monasters. What was the
name of the title if anybody wants to watch.

Speaker 1 (02:25:29):
It, Oh, that was Alaska Coastal Sasquatch.

Speaker 4 (02:25:33):
Okay. So if you want to see the area in
Scott's cabin, you can watch that.

Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
And they did such a good job. They really did
a nice job. Doug, I think you if you haven't
seen it, you'd be pretty impressed.

Speaker 4 (02:25:48):
Yeah. I did see it. Yep, Yeah, I thought it
was good. Well, with that, I think we're going to
do our What do you want to do, Jeff? Should
we do some Oh? No, Jeff was locked up in
the world. There's got to be these solar flares that
we're having. Jeff, He's like never locked up even though no, no,

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your your your screen is black. But that's okay.

Speaker 1 (02:26:17):
I say you, buddy, do.

Speaker 4 (02:26:19):
You think that, uh, you're going to continue to kind
of you know, do more recorders, trail cams, things like that.

Speaker 12 (02:26:30):
Are you just kind of at peace with the whole thing. I, yeah, exactly,
I'm sort of at peace right now.

Speaker 1 (02:26:37):
And I mean, i'd love to know more, but I
feel like I can't get more. I really don't, you know,
I'd love to be able to find more. But uh, anyway,
there's more to the story. But that's the backstory that
you and i'll talk to talk about, you know, offline.
So but yeah, it's good.

Speaker 4 (02:27:00):
And I don't know what happened to Jeff. We gotta
wait for Jeff to come back.

Speaker 1 (02:27:03):
He's probably back in the shower.

Speaker 4 (02:27:07):
Actually, I think he's spending the swear money.

Speaker 1 (02:27:10):
He might be. He might be, but you know, when
I talked to him earlier, I was like, hey, he
was like, yeah, I'm just coming out of the shower.
I go, okay, so we're not doing this naked, right,
We're not going to be And he didn't respond, really,
he didn't say yes or no. So I was I
wasn't sure whether to show up naked or not, but

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I decided to be dressed. Was probably it's a break.

Speaker 4 (02:27:33):
Yeah, it's good, even jumps up and around. He had
to see a major surgery this last week. Oh dude,
really here he comes. He's back, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (02:27:47):
I had to just to it. Just flashed the blue
screen and death and shut off.

Speaker 1 (02:27:52):
Do you hear us talking? Did you talk badly about you?

Speaker 4 (02:27:56):
He said something about taking a shower online.

Speaker 1 (02:28:01):
I told Doug that you were going to show up naked, so.

Speaker 2 (02:28:05):
Was not planning on that.

Speaker 1 (02:28:06):
But but I said, if you weren't, I was.

Speaker 4 (02:28:10):
Apparently hold on.

Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
Hold on one second, there we go, just to be sure.

Speaker 1 (02:28:35):
The disclaimer that was that's pretty horrible. I mean, I
can do the same thing for you.

Speaker 4 (02:28:42):
Jeff got claim twice.

Speaker 2 (02:28:47):
Extra disclamation.

Speaker 4 (02:28:49):
Roger said he took a nap and now he's back,
and he's like, you guys are still here, and I'm like, yeah,
we are still here. Let's just just do so let's
do some clips.

Speaker 2 (02:29:02):
Jeff, okay, Well, I gotta get I gotta do get myself.
Well said that was a hard.

Speaker 4 (02:29:11):
Oh you had a hard crash.

Speaker 10 (02:29:12):
You know. You know, I.

Speaker 1 (02:29:15):
Wish we had I had thought about or had the
presence of mind to send you more the audio in advance, Jeff,
because I have so so much from from David ellis
that you know, he's captured out of the cabin. I mean,
I mean We just sent him terribytes to stuff and
he just figures it out. I mean he looks at
he's using a spectagraph. He's just reading the the the

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audio and figuring it out and not listening to every
minute of course, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:29:45):
Are you planning on at least doing some audio recording.

Speaker 1 (02:29:48):
I have to, you know what, Doug, I have to
do something, you know what I mean, I have to
not be so lazy. But we've got a lot of
work to do this summer and you have no power there.

Speaker 4 (02:29:59):
You have it probably a generator, but there's no power.

Speaker 1 (02:30:02):
I got solar, Yeah, I've got I've got plenty of power.

Speaker 4 (02:30:05):
Actually well yeah, but you have power for lights, but
not really power to run like TVs and internet or do.

Speaker 1 (02:30:12):
Yep, absolutely no, I do. Yeah, well yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:30:16):
It's off grid, but it's I wonder if we could
I wonder if we could do some cameras like away
from the cabin back in the woods, live you know,
like a live feed m Y's possible if you haven't
a power.

Speaker 1 (02:30:32):
Well, the thing is is that you know, the the
off grid cameras that we've you know, the trail cameras
have used before have been ripped off trees and broken,
so you have to you have to sort of figure
out how are you going to do this and how
are you gonna what's gonna work and what's not going
to work?

Speaker 4 (02:30:50):
You know? So interesting?

Speaker 1 (02:30:54):
Yeah, I mean strap's broken off, the cameras, camera case
is broken. These are not in no marks like a
bear does. And you know what a bear does. You've
been bear's black elastic, you know, yeah, anything plastic right, plastic, anything,
anything that's petroleum based, A bear will chew the crap

(02:31:15):
out of it, you know. So, yeah, I didn't. I
didn't have to pay that dollar for that squear jar.

Speaker 4 (02:31:22):
I'm that Oh yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (02:31:25):
No, I didn't anyway, So so yeah, we like I
told you about the five cameras that put up and
forble ripped off the trees, and then number five was
gone altogether, and then in place a number five was
that hammer, the old timy hammer.

Speaker 4 (02:31:44):
But I learned a new word, Scott, old timey, like
nineteen nine thirty old time Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:31:53):
It's like it's like, well, what you don't know that word?

Speaker 4 (02:31:58):
Come on, a smart guy, old timey. I love it.
That's a great word.

Speaker 10 (02:32:05):
Have you have.

Speaker 1 (02:32:07):
You haven't been to a hardware store and gotten the
old timey candy.

Speaker 4 (02:32:12):
I've ever heard that term old timey.

Speaker 1 (02:32:15):
Yeah, anyway, So, but the hammer was like not a
normal claw like that. It wasn't like arched like a
normal claw, pretty pretty, a little bit of straight. And
the hammer or the handle was like a hickory handle
hammer that handled. That was like old timy. I mean

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you look in the shape that, it's just not like
a normal hammer. I mean, right, yeah, interesting. Yeah, Oh,
let's see here. Joshua says that I lived here twenty
years ago when Monster Quest came out on TV. But

(02:32:57):
I thought that was science fiction at the time. Yeah,
a lot of people do, unless you've had some experiences.

Speaker 4 (02:33:07):
I was at a guy's house. I already told this story.
But I was at a guy's house to buy an
old rusty motorcycle. And I got there, I was there
are two minutes, and a tree gets pushed down. I
ran in the forest right next to us, and I go,
does that happen often? He goes, Only when I walk
back by the barn. Ye go, do you have big

(02:33:30):
foots on your property? He goes, I don't know, do
I what else happens?

Speaker 10 (02:33:36):
He goes?

Speaker 4 (02:33:37):
Well, last night the barbecue girl got thrown off the porch.
Oh yeah, he goes, and I found a excrement that
was like three feet long and like coffee? Can I go? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:33:53):
And he goes.

Speaker 4 (02:33:55):
Could Bigfoot explain that deer carcass aid something late in
my driveway the other day? And I'm like, yeah, it
was just interesting because he had no clue, right, he
knew something weird was going on. For all of you
lived here with this activity thirty one years.

Speaker 1 (02:34:10):
Yeah, like oh my god, yeah, no big deal. Nothing.

Speaker 4 (02:34:14):
People will put up with a lot of stuff and
explain it away, right, I'll just explain it and explain
it away. But when I'm there five minutes, two minutes
in a tree, a giant tree gets pushed down where
there's no win. I mean, it just it was a
massive ground shook.

Speaker 13 (02:34:34):
But you know what, you know what, Doug, I mean,
you and Jeff both right before you really thought about this,
and he'd be out there and having shit happened that
you would just go, yeah, it's not I mean you
probably would discount it, right, I mean for being anything
other than just a weird sound of the wits.

Speaker 1 (02:34:55):
And I mean, seriously, if you hadn't looked into it.
You just think, okay, and it makes me wonder, like
with all the stuff that happens out of my cabin,
you know, all this, you know, I grew up hunting, fishing, trapping,
and the sounds that I've heard that maybe happened to
the woods that I just discounted and didn't even think
about again because it's you know, you just don't think

(02:35:17):
that it could be a possibility, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:35:20):
Yeah, yeah, I've heard some strange stuff that I just
you know, didn't think about it, didn't dwell on. I
just thought that was weird.

Speaker 1 (02:35:28):
And Doug you too, I'm sure right before you really,
I mean before Monster class, before the stuff really came
on your radar, you probably were in the woods and
heard something.

Speaker 4 (02:35:37):
Just sure, absolutely, you know absolutely, and you.

Speaker 1 (02:35:40):
Couldn't explain it. And then here you are that now
you think you can explain it because you can look
back and and in you know, hindsight's twenty twenty of course,
But to have some of the epic things that I've had,
I mean now in hindsight, the epic things that I've
had happened that you would think that just would be

(02:36:02):
a normal sound otherwise. I mean, so we were here's
a story for you this past summer. So we have
new neighbors that are building across the bay from us,
and it would be the third cabin in our little bay,
and really wonderful family. And before they started building, and
they ended up staying with us for basically the majority

(02:36:25):
of the summer while they were building. But it's a
husband wife and they have three boys that are older
boys that are capable, and they could build. And one
of the youngest boy had gone to cal Polly and
finished up his degree there and it was up for
the summer and was going to be off until October.

(02:36:46):
But anyway, so he knew somehow he knew about our
cabin and what was going on up there. And so
my wife and his wife went up to the upper
fire pit, which you're probably familiar with if you saw
the old videos, and I was stating there with him
and his son on the bench right above our cabin.

(02:37:08):
And we're standing there and there's not a freaking breath
of wind, and all of a sudden, this epic tree
it comes down off the side of the mountain and
it's you. It is absolutely epic, But anyway, it So
we went up there, my wife and I the next

(02:37:28):
day because I and the sun is like, that's one
of them. That's one of them doing that. And I
have no idea what it was. But we went up
there the next day to find that log. And we
found it and it was fifty hundred feet from a cliff,
but it had been thrown off the top of the mountain.

Speaker 4 (02:37:49):
Wow, so it slid down the mountain this log.

Speaker 1 (02:37:55):
No, it was thrown away from the cliff.

Speaker 2 (02:37:58):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:37:59):
This cliff is probably three hundred feet and Alex knows
exactly where the cliff is. I wish I'd been talking
to or I wish she was still on with us.
But it had thrown, been thrown and it was not
like and I looked at that. That's the first thing
I looked at. Jeff. I thought, Okay, it came down
the mountain. Maybe catapult it hit, it bounced out. There
was nothing like that. And it was just probably one

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hundred feet fifty feet from the base of the cliff
and laid down. It was probably twelve or fourteen inches diameter,
probably twenty feet long, and the I mean only half
of it was there, or like twenty feet of it
the base of it. There was no top, so.

Speaker 4 (02:38:40):
Crazy. How many times have you seen logs or wood
or something, you know, moving and off in a mountain
or in the distance.

Speaker 1 (02:38:51):
Never other than that. I mean, we didn't see that.
We didn't visually see that. And then that log that
hit the back of my cabin would when my brother
and I were there. We didn't see it. The cabin moved,
but we found the cab log the next day. But yeah,
and we found other logs that were stuffed into trees
and stuff like that up by the upper fire pit.

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Just weird peculiar stuff, not like just weird stuff you
know you can't, I mean, just weird stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:39:21):
How often is your sleep and disturbing you're trying to
just go to sleep up there?

Speaker 1 (02:39:27):
Typically? I sleep out there better than anywhere in the world.
I mean literally, I mean even if I fly a
jet land in Hong Kong, after you know, being up
for twenty four hours, I just sleep better at my
cabin than any place. So I think, because I sleep
so well, I sleep so soundly, I miss a lot
of things.

Speaker 4 (02:39:45):
But oh, okay, but have you ever been awoken while
you were sleeping?

Speaker 5 (02:39:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:39:49):
Yeah, absolutely?

Speaker 4 (02:39:50):
Yeah? How many times has that happened.

Speaker 1 (02:39:54):
In the last well since we started building the cabin,
probably a dozen times at least, you know, know, where
you just here's something hit the side of the cabin
or hits here's something hit the roof or you know,
rocks hitting the deck or the top of the roof
or whatever. And its just but typically you know when
when that stuff happens, I don't wake up to the sound.

(02:40:16):
I wake up because of the sound, but I don't
hear the sound until there's like a subsequent sound, you
know what I mean. The first sound wakes you up,
and then the subsequent sound is what you hear. But
and that's not all the time, you know what I mean.
It's you know, I might have twenty times where a
sound has woken me up or thirty times, but if

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there's not a subsequent sound, I don't, you know, I
wake up because I heard something, but I don't know
exactly what that sound was, you know. And then unless
there's another sound that happens, like another rocket and thrown
or whatever, I don't really you know, I just go
back to sleep.

Speaker 4 (02:40:53):
So what do you think these things are, Scott? I mean,
what's your what spend your conclusion. Do you think they're there?
What blood creatures?

Speaker 1 (02:41:02):
Yeah? What they know there? What they are. It's like
if somebody asks me what a dear is? Dear is
what a dear is? You know? It bears what it bears.
And I think that's if these things are a hundred
percent real, I think, well, I don't believe that it's
some weird you know, I think it's real. I think

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it's flesh and blood and I don't think anything more
than that. And outside of that, I mean, if it's
an animal, it's an animal. And I can't I mean,
I'm not willing to go outside of that and describe
it and try to you know, like everybody says, you
don't want to try to explain the explainable with something
that's unexplainable again with another you know, like this bullshit

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that you know.

Speaker 4 (02:41:47):
Another quarter richer.

Speaker 1 (02:41:49):
Yeah, I know, seventy five cents. I'll give you seventy.

Speaker 12 (02:41:52):
Five for that WAYA I forgot, but I I mean,
I just don't. I can't buy that it's something that's
not you know, flesh and blood.

Speaker 4 (02:42:04):
I just can't.

Speaker 1 (02:42:05):
I can't believe that it comes out of orbs and
stuff like that, and just based on you know, based
on what we saw last last summer. And and I'm
not saying that what we saw was something other than
it could could have been a beer. I don't think
it was. You know, what my wife saw said it
was dark colored, not black, dark colored. And what I saw,

(02:42:26):
and I'm telling you, Doug, if you could have seen,
it's like somebody took an axe and just cut the
knees out from under the scene. How quickly it fell,
how quickly it went from upright to gone below this
hump that goes up to the upper fire pit, and yeah,
stuff like that. I mean, so if you know, if

(02:42:50):
it was this thing that's not real and you know
lives in portals and all this bullshit, why didn't they
just show up in a grocery store and pick up,
you know, steaks, And you know that's.

Speaker 4 (02:43:02):
Why are they only appearing with there's good water helms
and you know they would have they would appear, I
would think in other areas, but they always show up
in the correct environment.

Speaker 1 (02:43:13):
Yeah, I know. So you know, I have no idea.
You know, I can't guess to this stuff. And I
don't want to discount anybody that wants to think like that.
If you want to think like that, that's fine, but
that's just I can't.

Speaker 4 (02:43:28):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:43:29):
I'm not willing to sign your manifesto. I'm sorry. So
that's just where I'm at.

Speaker 4 (02:43:33):
Have you seen eye glow? Have you ever seen any
glowing in the maybe eye glow?

Speaker 1 (02:43:40):
No, I've never seen anything. I've seen an orb, a
white orb that was going up the trail above the cabin,
which I which I saw with a thermal, but I
didn't see with my naked eye and what I was,
you know. So I don't know if you know much
about my military career, but I started out jumping out

(02:44:01):
of airplanes. I was an article light, a pictured paratrooper,
and then I became one of my assignments was one
hundred first Airborne down at Fort Campbell, Kentucky. And I
became really good friends with this guy that was a
huge bowhunter from Michigan, and he and I bowhunt together

(02:44:21):
and it was like a year and a half of bowhunting,
I mean becoming friends with him bow hunting two seasons probably,
and he's like, he's like, yeah, they tried to put
me in jail in Michigan. I'm like, what are you
talking about, and he goes, yeah, I was bowhunting with
a friend of mine. I was seventeen years old, and
he said, my friend was coming over the hill towards me,

(02:44:46):
and actually his friend was behind a hill something like that.
He's on a trail and he's looking up this trail
and there's an orb coming straight out him, and he's
a bowhunter. He draws back his bow because he has
no idea what this is, and he sends his arrow
and then he hears his buddy's screaming and he freaking
killed his buddy. Now I'm telling you right now, this

(02:45:10):
is the story that was told to me. This is
and I never hunted with him again because it scared
the hell out of me. But he literally said he
sent an arrow through his buddy's chest and he didn't
see his body. His buddy was over hill, but he
saw this orb and he shot the orb, or shot
at the orbit. His arrow sailed over the hill and
into his buddy chest, which is like, I mean, it's craziness, right,

(02:45:33):
Who knows, but I know I saw something on the
thermal and it was not big. It was like probably
maybe baseball size, just going up up the hillt and
I lowered the knight fish or the thermals, and I
never saw it again. When I put him back up,
it was gone.

Speaker 4 (02:45:50):
So can you talk about any weird things you've seen
in the sky? Wild fly?

Speaker 1 (02:45:56):
I can send you. I could send you videos now
because I'm not flying anymore.

Speaker 4 (02:46:00):
So you're not worried about losing your wings.

Speaker 1 (02:46:04):
Nope, I so I am out on medical right now
for at least. Yeah, I'm out for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:46:13):
But we've had we Can you just tell us what
kind of weird things you've seen while you're flying over
the ocean?

Speaker 1 (02:46:20):
Okay, So I'm going to start out with the first
thing I saw. The first thing I saw, I was
in porter of Prince Haiti. I was deployed with the Army.
I was sitting on top of a roof that I
had built the set of stairs for for our guys
to go up there in the suntan and hang out
and stuff like that. We're I was MEDEVAC pilot helicopter
pile at the time, and my buddy and I were

(02:46:40):
sitting up there on the roof nar time, looking at
the sky. I'm looking at the sky. He's got his
eye clothes. I had no idea. And I look at
something that going across the sky and makes a ninety
degree right hand turn, left hand turn, whatever it was,
and goes about and it's traveling way faster than a satellite,
but way slower than a falling star. It makes two

(02:47:00):
ninety three light hand earth turns. And I'm like, Matt,
did you see that? He's like, what are you talking about?
And I told him what I saw and he goes,
what are you smoking? Dope? He literally said that, and
I'm like, but he was laying in the shade lounge
next to me, but his eyes were closed. So now
his eyes were open. I'm like, telling him about this thing,
and it comes from the opposite direction, does the same thing. Now?

(02:47:21):
The big thing I saw was so when we first
opened up the anchoraged Domossile, I was an empty eleven pilot.
I was in a first officer at the time, and
we had a trip that you would fly. You would
operate to Hong Kong and you would spend like seven
days ten days in Hong Kong and every night you
would go to the clerk in the Philippines Clark you

(02:47:43):
force base, and then back. It was a great thing
because I was a new guy on the empty eleven.
The captain I was flying with was a new guy
in the empty eleven. So you both got a landing right,
you both got a leg with the airplane. You're really
learning how to fly the airplane, even though you're qualified
in the airplane. So anyway, we are going into Clark.

(02:48:04):
It's probably day three or four of the iterations, and
there was a it's a non radar environment, which is
absolute bullshit, but it's because the Filipinos stole the radar.
And anyway, so you enter the holding, a right hand turn.
You have to do a one minute outbound one minute
inbound is the way that holding works. Right, Typically it's

(02:48:25):
right hand turns. In the US, left hand turns, it
doesn't matter right, so but it's right hand turns. We
enter the holding and I'm the HC. The captain's flying.
He makes the right hand turn, so he's on the
high the airplane flying right. The airplane's autopiles engaged, and
the airplane answered that first right hand turn into that holding,

(02:48:47):
and something goes over. As Doug, I'm telling you right now,
there was three white lights. I absolutely know three white lights,
and it went so freaking close to us. The captain
threw his body on the center pedestal next to us,
so you think about it, he's on the high side
of the airplane, right, he throws his body down onto
the pedalstal because he thinks we're going to hit this thing.

(02:49:10):
And it was so freaking close. I'm on the radio
screaming with air traffic Control, but they it's a non
radar environment. They were like, oh, no other report of traffic, YadA, YadA.
We landed in the Philippines and we're at like when
we have this incidate. It was like twenty two thousand feet,
there's no birds up, there is nothing, like, there's nothing right,

(02:49:30):
there's no civilian airplanes at twenty two thousand feet. You
have to have a pressurized airplane. But air traffic Control said,
no report of traffic, nothing, nothing, nothing. We landed and
we were so convinced that we had to have hit
this thing because it was like, I mean, it was
right there. It was so freaking close. We did a

(02:49:50):
post light, which we never do. We don't walk around
that airplane after the landing. We did a post light,
and we thought for sure that the airplan would be damaged,
but we never saw it. I think in air traffic
controls said they never saw anything.

Speaker 4 (02:50:03):
So how big would you estimate these.

Speaker 1 (02:50:05):
Lights thirty feet apart? Three white lights thirty feet apart?
How big would each light triangle.

Speaker 2 (02:50:13):
Six?

Speaker 4 (02:50:13):
You know, seven ft?

Speaker 1 (02:50:15):
No, I don't even think that. Maybe maybe two or
three feet, right, but thirty feet apart, like a triangle
shake shape. But it was like it was absolutely so fast,
dug that, And so we had that you've entered that
first answer of the hold right the first turn of
the holding pattern, and you come around on the second

(02:50:35):
turn and we are both like, okay, we're going to
see this thing right now because we're in and out
of the clouds. We're in a stratus layer, you know,
probably you know, like I said, twenty twenty three thousand,
not twenty you know whatever, depending on the direction flight.
And we never saw anything again. But now in since then,

(02:50:57):
over the last three years, our guys have been seeing
so and I'll send you the video and I don't
care if you share it or not, but we're saying stuff.
And the first time I saw it, I had my
first officer is like, hey, have you heard about these
life that people are seeing over this waypoint over the
Pacific on the way back from Asia to anchorage, and
I go, I have no idea what you're talking about,

(02:51:18):
and he goes he goes, yeah, all the guys are
talking about this at the ready room and the YadA
YadA and anyway. So he is in the right seat.
It's he and I coming out of Japan. So it's
only a two man crew. Normally, anything more than eight
hours you have a three man crew. But now it's
less than eight hours in Japan flight in short flight

(02:51:41):
right seven a half hours, seven hours, And so we're
sitting here. He goes, hey, do you mind if we
go dark on the airplane so we can watch for
these things? And I go, yeah, absolutely. So we darken
up the airplane and we've been flying for like forty
minutes because he thought it was by this one way
point where these guys are seeing these lights, so we

(02:52:01):
didn't see anything. And he goes, hey, do you mind
if I close my eyes for a minute. I go, yeah,
I don't care. I want you to. You know, I'd
rather have a guy a first office. He's rested that
the guy that's you know, dragging his heels coming back
in the anchorage. So I go, yeah, close your eyes
for ten minutes or whatever you want to do, right,
And he shuts his eyes. And it wasn't two minutes,
I swear to God. Two minutes. And I'm looking and

(02:52:22):
I'm like, what the hell was that? I really, I'm
sitting there in a dark cocked it. His eyes are closed,
and I'm like, what the hell is that? And then
he woke up like five minutes later, and we watched
it for another forty minutes, and he had the best
description I could have ever had somebody tell me about it.
It was like we were watching a dog fight in

(02:52:45):
an out of space. And I'll send you the video
because that wasn't the trip that I that I videoed it,
but it was subsequent trips, two trips that I videoed
these things. And I had a clamp that I put
on the dash with my iPhone and we're in no turbulence.
It's a smooth flight, level flight, you know, thirty five
thousand feet and these things that I'm telling you, Doug,

(02:53:08):
they're chasing each other. It's like craziness. So anyway, but
I'll send you that stuff after we hang out.

Speaker 4 (02:53:13):
And that's crazy. Did you ever report any.

Speaker 1 (02:53:19):
No, No, why would you do that exactly?

Speaker 4 (02:53:21):
But I'm just curious. Yeah, anything else in your long
career of flyne that you've seen that or like, what
the world was that?

Speaker 1 (02:53:30):
Well, I've seen those lives several times now, like probably
four or five times.

Speaker 4 (02:53:34):
You know, is it more? Is it more in the
last like ten years or was it four years?

Speaker 1 (02:53:40):
Three years?

Speaker 2 (02:53:41):
Three years?

Speaker 1 (02:53:41):
Four years?

Speaker 4 (02:53:42):
Yeah, so it's recent stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:53:45):
And you know, guys, a lot of guys I fly
with their like we think that it might be it
could be us, right, us government sure having something we
have Yeah, we have no idea.

Speaker 4 (02:53:59):
Most of your Allott pilots believe in weird craft that
you know, uh, defies explanation.

Speaker 1 (02:54:08):
Okay, So getting back to your first question, what are
you willing to say without worries about losing your wings?
Nobody is saying anything other than it's just really strange, right,
I mean, yeah, there's just weird stuff out there. So
but who else? I don't know. I'm not willing to

(02:54:30):
guess what it is. But whatever it is, it's just strange.

Speaker 4 (02:54:33):
It's strange. What about that the I'm sure you heard
about that Japanese flight where they saw this huge.

Speaker 1 (02:54:42):
Yeah, yeah, and that was so that was Japan Airlines,
and the captain reported when he got to back to Japan.
You know what happened to him, right.

Speaker 4 (02:54:55):
It wasn't good.

Speaker 1 (02:54:56):
I didn't fly again. Yeah, yeah, he's done fine.

Speaker 4 (02:55:01):
That's really Why do you think the cover up though,
with the with the airlines and with the the f A.
What why the cover up? Are they trying to make
people feel safer in the skies, like we have total
control over everything on your your traffic control?

Speaker 1 (02:55:18):
I don't know this is a cover up. Dog, To
be honest with you, I really doubt I mean, I
you know, I think more and more stuff is coming
out right now, but I can't say for sure that
there was ever a cover up, or I think maybe
stuff was sort of depressed a little.

Speaker 4 (02:55:36):
Bit, you know what I mean, like you want to
deal with it.

Speaker 1 (02:55:39):
Yeah, I know, and I think it's just too much
to explain, right, But who knows, you know. But I'll
tell you what. The craziest thing I saw though, was
over the Philippines, you know, going to Clark So in
that those three lights. I mean, because I'm I'm telling
you right now that if we we both swore that

(02:55:59):
we to have hit that day.

Speaker 4 (02:56:01):
And then what is the last question, What is it
like to fly airplane that large? What in the world
is that really like?

Speaker 1 (02:56:10):
Well, the seven or the Emty eleven is a big airplane.
That's what I used to fly. It's the one that
just we just crashed, right, And Brent Stipley can talk
to you about that. He's on that airplane still. He's
a little based. Actually I flew that airplane for twelve years.
But and that's a you know, Matt's takeoff weight on

(02:56:32):
empty eleven. I'm a numbers guy, can't help it. Six
hundred and thirty pounds. But that's bush that's bush league
compared to the you know seven forty seven which I
fly right now, seven forty seven tosh eight is eight
hundred and seventy five, five hundred. It's a heavy girl. Yeah,

(02:56:53):
what is that like? Though?

Speaker 4 (02:56:54):
I mean, do you feel like, do you ever get
over the responsible.

Speaker 1 (02:57:01):
I digress nine to eighty seven, five, nineeven thousand and
five because UPS wants to my company wants to make
it over a million pounds on the takeoff weight.

Speaker 4 (02:57:10):
So you know what you know?

Speaker 1 (02:57:13):
You know about the crash in Louisville, and those guys
did not have a chance. I mean, they lost that
engine came off that wing. But every takeoff that I've
ever done as a captain, right, I set takeoff thrust.
I don't care if it's the first officer flying or
I am. And I go through my I go through
the mental gymnastics of if we can and engine this

(02:57:37):
is how we do it, you know what I mean.
And those guys that had that problem Louisville, they did
everything that we were trying to do. They did nothing wrong,
you know. So there's a checklist. It's called engine fire,
failure or loss, or separate or separation. So in other words,

(02:57:58):
you have an engine fire, engine failure, or the separation
of the airplane or the jet. The engine come off
the airplane. And they had an engine separation, but they
had it on the ground, but they had it below
decision speed. So decision speed is it's called V one.
And once you get to decision speed, you go no

(02:58:18):
matter what you're on fire, whatever, and what we're trained
to do. It's like, even if you're on fire, it
doesn't matter if that engine still producing thrust. Right, even
if you're on fire that engine, but when the engine
comes off on the runway and then you hit decision
speed and you're committed to go because that's what we're
trained to do. Then you're you know, those guys just
didn't have a chance, and I you know, and the

(02:58:39):
captain was one of my first.

Speaker 4 (02:58:41):
Officers, you know, A sad situation.

Speaker 2 (02:58:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:58:49):
Anyway, So taking off one of those big airplanes, it's
a heavy girl. And I've literally probably seventy percent of
the chance or times I take off out of Asia
nine hundred eighty seven thousand, five hundred pounds max takeoff weight,
and I'm sitting at the end of the runway in
Hong Kong, or in Shanghai, or in Guanchaut, China, and

(02:59:09):
I'm holding the brakes and pushing power up to burn
off that extra two hundred punds or three hundred pounds
to make it legal for me to take off. Yeah,
nine seventy five eighty seven thousand, five hundred pounds. So yep,
But it's a it's.

Speaker 2 (02:59:26):
A heavy girl.

Speaker 4 (02:59:27):
You don't add them.

Speaker 1 (02:59:28):
You don't fly that airplane. You heard it, you know
what I mean. It's just you just don't well. But yeah,
but and you'll see the end of the runway every time.
I mean, I don't care if it's twelve thousand feet
so but yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:59:44):
Well, thank you for all your your military service to Scott, well,
thank you all the yeah, because what you did flying
all those years still, you know, society can't funk and
without what you did, you know, getting getting our gear

(03:00:05):
and all the things we order and get sent to us.
You guys are the brave men that make that stuff flow.

Speaker 1 (03:00:14):
That's a cool picture, Jeff, I'm sure you put that up.

Speaker 2 (03:00:17):
Yeah, I just I just found it. Yes, seven forty
seven eight. That's a that's that's the biggest plane that boeings. Yah,
that's a big, big fathom it.

Speaker 1 (03:00:27):
Yeah, she's a big girl.

Speaker 10 (03:00:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:00:30):
Well, thank you Scott so much. I hang on one second,
we're gonna just play a little wisdom and then we're
gonna come right back and then wind up. So stay
put a little bit right back.

Speaker 9 (03:00:41):
It's now time for Untold Radio Am Wisdom of the Week.
A true friend is like an invisible bridge. You only
see it when you need to cross the troubled river.
And also, don't forget the shortest distance between two people.
As a smile, good night. We hope to see you
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(03:01:04):
and most of all, subscribing and hitting the bell so
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Speaker 2 (03:01:10):
Also, please share this episode. Now back to Doug and
Jeff for our rap.

Speaker 4 (03:01:19):
And we are back. So we want to thank everybody
and chat all of our moderators and really appreciate you guys.
And Scott was kind of a wild ride and sorry,
I wanted to surprise you with Alex.

Speaker 5 (03:01:35):
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:01:36):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (03:01:37):
I know you really like Alex. Alex, he's a wonderful
man and it was fun. And I look forward to
talking against Scott, and we really appreciate you taking the
time to come on the show, and everybody, we will
see you next week. I think we have David dominikon

(03:01:57):
next week and it's also a military guy, and we
will be here same time, same.

Speaker 1 (03:02:08):
All right, boys, let's go. Let's go fishing next summer. Yes,
all right, come on, come on up, all right.

Speaker 2 (03:02:18):
Good night, everybody, All right, all right, let's call you up.

Speaker 4 (03:02:22):
In the middle of the night.

Speaker 7 (03:02:25):
Been bothered by dreams and feeling all day. You give
me comfort, say, just give it some time.

Speaker 4 (03:02:32):
By the end of our talk, I'm feeling just fine.

Speaker 7 (03:02:37):
You have always know whill we be long.

Speaker 4 (03:02:44):
The same noordinary.

Speaker 1 (03:02:47):
We gotta go in all.

Speaker 6 (03:02:52):
I'll pick you up in the fifteen hour foard you
hit up down the road. Two week are for just
you an the sun and the wind. If the acious
to call.

Speaker 1 (03:03:05):
Able, head on home again.

Speaker 7 (03:03:08):
Everybody else can't see when we be long.

Speaker 1 (03:03:16):
In order very we gotta go in all.

Speaker 7 (03:03:22):
At the end of the world together forever swall in
our way.

Speaker 1 (03:03:28):
If better you should be in town in our way.

Speaker 7 (03:03:32):
We never to go to sparted our way.

Speaker 4 (03:03:37):
All the time.

Speaker 7 (03:03:38):
Way would be together every day, but it never would
be less straight up the way back home Tugain, every

(03:04:09):
end of the world together forever is well our way.

Speaker 3 (03:04:15):
If ever you should be endowed or comparatee. They never
compose a part in Loway. At the end of the
world together.

Speaker 7 (03:04:27):
Forever is one in alwagegether.

Speaker 4 (03:04:31):
We should be endowed in Holland.

Speaker 7 (03:04:34):
They never compose a part in our way, one a
time every page together never beta know.

Speaker 5 (03:04:46):
They never would be astray. They all.

Speaker 10 (03:04:51):
Go to su

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