A Night at the Roxbury (1998) | Episode #470 - Victims and Villains

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, welcome to the Victims and Villains podcast speed if
you guys are new to Victims and Villains. We are
a multimedia nonprofit creating content like what you're listening to
right now, talk about mental health through pop culture. I
am your host, Josh and sadly, I am not a

(00:26):
meanly oh as we're talking about a night at the Roxbury,
a yet another addition into our Thankful Thursday series that
we were doing this month because gratitude raises your mental
health by thirty five percent from having a depressive episode.
And I am joined by the man who picked this movie,

(00:50):
mister Corio Carol aka the Saint of Pine Hills.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yes, there.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's up. Just give me an eighty dollars ticket. She
is so into you. Have a good night. It's already
been good now that you served and protected me. You
got her badge number plus a month from now, you
got a date to meet her at the municipal State Lord. No,

(01:35):
they graduate from high school and what do they do?
Do they go to college? No? Are they take an
interest in my store? No? Why don't you go to
Wrexhall's drugs?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
First of all chill pills? Do they have any idea
of the future. No, that was in my nose.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
We are a club people.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Do you guys want to make out or what?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
We're just leading this week? Lup bine for me, me.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Go getting go Steve and dun Bootbby.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
No, yes, we'll give the uncool.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
You have to take control of yourself. You gotta take
a draw barely hanging.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Up there.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
A chance to rule what's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
All right, we'll clean up later. Don't worry about it,
take it easy. Let's mingle.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Gord I broke the window again a night at the Roxbury. Hey,

(03:02):
what's up are you doing?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
We call you some type of you got a number?
What's some of it? About a little of that?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
All right? What's up?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
What's up about it?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Down?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
So, I genuinely before we start talking about this movie,
I was like, when we were compiling this list of
like wanting to give thanks. It's so hard because I'm
so thankful for so much this year, so many people.
But I think that like, out of a lot of
the the artists that I worked with and a lot

(03:49):
of the friendships that I've really thrown deeper with, I
am you're high on that list, and I think you
really kind of challenged me a lot this year to
grow out of my comfort zone, from doing spoken word
that I don't do very often, to you know, the

(04:11):
Bivarred Recovery Fest, and to even going along and doing
the experiment with me of doing our June run that
we did at you know, Possibilities and Ripple Khan and
Garden Grove and Red Rabbit Coffee like it was. It's

(04:33):
one of the most interesting and I think, like just
satisfying things that I've been able to be a part
of under up with victims this year, and I'm just
I'm really thankful man. So I wanted to invite you
on here to talk about something that you're thankful for
and that isn't I The Roxbury.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Is the movie that keeps on giving.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I dude, I had not seen this movie since probably
two thousand and nine, Like it has been a long
long time. And every time that I am like five,
come across this on streaming, I'm like, I should check
this out. Maybe maybe one day, And well, a couple

(05:18):
of days ago that was the day that you, I
mean I picked I watched.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It, so you actually found it streaming somewhere.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
We rented it. Billy and I the co host from
abiscusing we're hanging out and we watched it. We watched
it a few days ago when he was up before
we did Triangle Terra Con And yeah, this movie's surprisingly
hard to find streaming, right.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I did a quick Google search before I watched it again,
and I was like, and I got it on DVD,
so I'm gonna dust off the Blu ray player and
pop it in there. And it's so weird going back
to that and you're using this like extra remote and
you're like, crap previews and it won't let me go
to the menu, like not.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
To mention, like it's not like a VHS to where you.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Just fast forward through it. Yeah, dude, Even even trying
to find it physically, I was like, because I was like,
I was like, it's a Will Ferrell movie. This was
a regular that I watched as a teenager. I was like.
Even my wife was like very surprised that, like I
didn't own a copy of this movie. She's like, you
don't known a copy of nith Ride And I was like, no,
I don't. And I called like so many stores and

(06:37):
I could not find it, and like Amazon was like asking,
like absurd prices for it, and I'm just like crazy,
that's I was streaming.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I mean they just had the what it was, twentieth
anniversary in twenty eighteen, and then.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, this movie is twenty six years old. Now, Oh,
I've heard.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
If you like Berry, your back probably hurts, Your body
is probably in pain right.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Now, probably probably hates you. But this is a movie
that when even when we talked about doing this episode,
and even when I was up down in Florida in September,
we had talked to you know, you had expressed like
this being like one of your favorite films of all time.
And I'm curious what it is about this film because
I think you're probably one of maybe like three people

(07:33):
that I've met, but like, this is like one of
my top three films of all time.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
It's like, uh it for some reason. It's one of
those comedies that it has the absurd humor in it
that just.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
You don't really have to think a lot.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
As you're watching it, You're like, oh, he just did
this this like physical humor type of stud like that
was funny. But then it all just interwebs into this
story and it's only like an hour and a half long,
but like you're watching it all and you're just like, oh,
then they go here, and then they go here, and
then they do this, and they do that, and then
it's like and they have a falling out and then

(08:11):
they come back together and it's like wow, like and.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Then even at the end, like the Molly.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Shannon is like her character goes off with this other
character and it's just it's probably like that's that's why
I said, it's like one of the best SNL movies
that I have seen. But it really made like a
difference on me because I watched it probably when I
let's see, let's do the math real quick. My parents said,

(08:40):
don't watch this is that was.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
The biggest thing, right, So they're like, no, you know how.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
To watch this, You're not old enough yet. I was, okay,
I was eleven at this time. I was eleven years
old watching Night at the Rock spad So a lot
of the.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Joke back then just went right over my head.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
But I just I think the physical comedy really set in,
and then the catch phrases like what we were saying,
like there were so many things, like even stupid stuff
where their reaction to their dad is just like I
told my friends about it at school, and we would

(09:28):
constantly be doing all the stupid catch phrases that all of.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Our dreamers were like, what are you even doing? Like
we just walk in what's up's up? What's up?

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Souk me took me, me me.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
But it.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Like I I grew up like in the Thick of U,
S and L and so like Saturday in Life was
one of those first shows that like I really got
into as as like a teenager that felt like adult,
Like it felt like, you know, you weren't supposed to
be watching it. And and we grew up in this
like Brime era of Saturday Night Live where you had

(10:10):
kind of had that eighty fizzle out, but then you
had like these like juggernaut performers like Chris Rock, Chris Farley,
you know, Colin Quinn who's also in this movie, Adam Sandler,
David Spade. Then you know you get this like rush
of like Chris Caten, h Will Ferrell, Molly, Shannon, Cherio, Terry.

(10:34):
Like there's there were so many tim Meadows. There were
so many like just heavy hitters that just came from
the nineties and the nineties is like such a weird
time in and of itself, but also having that with
the SNL movies that made like the nineties are really

(10:55):
the only time that they really made films.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah, I mean did they make I think they were
into the two thousands of like there was a couple
and then they just kind of.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
So they have three after after two thousand. They have
The Ladies Man in two thousand, and they have mcgrubre
in twenty ten, and then they have the the Peacock
movie that they did last year, the Please Don't Please
Don't Destroy the Treasure of Foggy Mountain. But even like

(11:30):
when you're talking about like the height of this this period,
like you're talking about Wayne's World, Coneheads, Wayne's World two. Uh,
you know you had a couple of stinkers in there
blues like it's pat and Stewart saves his family. But
then you have like Knight the Roxbury and Superstar. You
have these like juggernaut films that really like defined what

(11:54):
comedy could be at that time, and it was like
it's all relevant humor, right, So like it has this
like period of being timeless. But there's something about A
Night the Roxbury that feels very much like a product
of its time. We talked about this last week with
Big Fat Liar that it like if you could show
something a someone what it was like to grow up

(12:18):
in a specific era. I feel like a Knight of
the rocks Berry would be kind of like the tip
of the iceberg what you could say. Nineties with the
nineties were like.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, like nineties la and like that whole vibe that
they had going on there.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Also, I don't know if you I don't know if
you'll if you caught this or if you even want
to bring it up, But I, like I said, this
has been a long time since I watched this, but
I do you remember, like in the nineties, like how
monumental the Matrix was in terms of like fashion, like
it it made goth, It made the goth like chic
really cool, but also at the same time, like it

(12:59):
put like black legs, they're on the map, right. I
was really surprised going back and rewatching this how much
of the women or the fashion and in this are
infused with that goth aesthetic or have that leather feel to.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Them, especially like at the mud Club or the Yeah,
it's like, yeah, we go to the mud Club every
now and then, but they'll let any anybody in there.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
It sucks. He's like, I own the mud Club too.
Oh it's a great place.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
We love great location, recently priced drinks.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
But and they're they're telling the Amelio story to the
biker women.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
That they're just like, so you guys want to make
out or what? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, Like and it's that's the type of thing that
like I think caught me by surprise rewatching. It was
like it just felt like predated a lot of those things,
and I was like, this is this is interesting that
like it it feels like really like all inclusive in
terms of stuff like that. Like that's but again, I
think it's to like showcase like how like Desperate Doug

(14:13):
and Steve were to kind of score.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah wasn't was Matrix right after like ninety nine, two.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Thousand, Yeah, Matrix, So this this came out ninety eight.
Matrix was the year after.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
So wow, coincidence. I think.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh I was thinking about like one of the things
that popped out to me while rewatching it.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
There's the part where they're talking to the club owner
and he's like, oh, I gotta go say hi to
Jim Carrey.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
He's like Jim get over here, and.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
So he sees that, and then I was for a second,
I was like, wait, does Jim Carrey do a cameo
in this movie? Because he was in one of the
skits on SNL. He was with them like Night of
the Roxbury Guys. I don't even know what they called
their characters on SNL.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
So I didn't either until I was like doing some
research for that. But they called themselves the Roxbury Guys,
okay ironically, So that's like and in the series, like
in the sketches before the film, if I remember correctly,
they never call themselves brothers, so they I don't think
they ever get names, okay. I think they were literally

(15:33):
just the guys that would, like, you know, do the
head bop thing and looked really good doing it and
then you know, uh, and so they never kind of
get so that the joke about like any time that
they were quote unquote set up, are you guys brothers?
Like that joke kind of takes on a new meeting
when you have that knowledge.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Because I was trying to remember how Jim was related
to them in the sketch that he was in, I
was like, was it just it was just a friend
tagging along, but it was all like it was all
body like physical comedy with him during that sketch, because
you know he likes to throw himself around, but he

(16:17):
was like put his whole freaking body into that nick.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, and he's like like twisted, like his uh, his
jaw to kind of have like that like turt Fireman
bill on most type kind of grin.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
We that was something we watched after after we got
done this. We were like talking about like some of
our memories with this movie, and I was like, I
I need to watch this, this this Jim Carrey sketch
because like that's what I associate these characters with more
than anything else, is that you can carry sketch.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, and like and that was where it was in
that time period where everybody was like, yeah, Jim Carrey
was on SNL and it was like no, he was
on in living color.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then it was like it kind of like blurred
those lines during that time.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Because he had blown up as a movie stuff in
the nineties and it's like, oh, okay, so he did
it originally come out of S and L now, And
it was like he came out of and I remember
watching all the in Living color episodes and I was like, wow,
he was just like it insane in all of those episodes.

(17:27):
It was just like, it's funny to see how that
turned into a movie career.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, I mean when you think about it, like, I
mean his career really was ninety four to like ninety six,
because I mean he kind of blew up and became
this like powerhouse name, but like in that time, I
mean he had dumb and dumber Ace Ventura Batman forever.

(17:53):
I'm trying to think of the other one that came
out in ninety four, because there was three in ninety
for the Mask was the other one, and so you know,
he just kind of like blew the heck up. So
it's not it's not a huge surprise, but I am
surprised going back and rewatching this, like how many like celebrities,

(18:14):
how many of them there was like this was like
a first film for.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Them, Yeah, right, like Richard Griico, the.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I just don't want to get sued.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Twenty one Jump street Man himself.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
So is Johnny Depp just gonna come and hang out
or that was That was one where.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I remember watching the movie and I just I had
no idea what those references were, and I'm like, what
is twenty one Jump Street?

Speaker 4 (18:43):
And then I remember going and like because it's back
in ninety eight, And then it's like you can't really
watch anything, but you can, like you can look it
up and it's like, oh, okay, it was it was
some series. And then they came out with the Channing
Tatum Jonah Hill twenty one Jump Street and and Richard
Rico's cameo in that made more sense.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
It was like, oh, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I forgot he was in that. I remember Johnny in
that one. Yeah, but yeah, that's that makes more sense.
I think the one that like got me and made
his soul rest in peace is Michael clark toncan like
this is.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
The Green Mile and then is.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
The this is a year I think before the Green Mile? Yeah,
and so but he like also he was just one
of the best parts, but also very young. Jennifer Coolidge
is in this movie.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Without the voice that she's adopted.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Famous for Yeah, right now makes me want hot dogs
real band.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
I was like, oh no, it's like Larry the Cable Guy.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Like it's like that's not a real voice.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's like for cooler. That's Stiffler's mom, Like, what are
you talking about?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, year before American Pie, but I think the one
that like stuck me to like we like actually paused
the movie and did a Google search on it. Uh.
But even Mendez, this is like one of her first
goals too.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
She just like slid right in real fast, like a
b character as a bridesmaid.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Or something like yeah, super weird, Yeah, super weird.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
But that that I was I was sitting there watching it,
but then I was also working at the same time,
and then that that part popped up where he's they're
in the middle of their wedding ceremony and then he
just looks over and like looks at her cleavage and
then it looks up at her from out attacked.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I just died in that.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
But I was like, okay. I was like, I'm trying
to work, but also watched this at the same time.
It's like that, Oh, it's just classic.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
He's like, see if you can't hit on the bride'smaid
during your wedding, wait till after the ceremony. I'm like, oh, okay,
oh man.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah. I also like they they just have these like
ways of like doing like the They just have these
ways of like throwing pickup lines in there, and I
have to think that they like came up with like

(21:20):
some sort of like drinking game to just see what's
the cringiest like dialogue you could you could pop out of.
But the one that Doug gives to uh, the Redhead
right before he's like getting ready to like consummate that
that one night stand, as you know, is that a

(21:42):
mirror your pants because I can or is that a
mer in your pocket because I just can see myself
in my pants? I that was the one line I
quoted from this movie for ten years.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Oh I was opposite.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
That was the.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, uh what was it? The when you know what
sound I heard when I saw you? And then he
keeps doing it. You hear it in the other room.
It has to bang on the wall. Look, Steve, shut up,
that's the sound the ambulance coming to take me away.

(22:20):
Because the sight of you stop my heart like that.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Is probably my favorite seeing this entire movie. I genuinely
genuinely love that scene. I think the another part like
that's really funny in that scene is as she's trying
to take Steve's pants off and he's like, look at me,
I'm just yacking about myself. Tell me about you. Do
you have a brother, do you have a sister? Are

(22:47):
you an only child? Do you have a do you
have a you have pets?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
I have a dog. Oh it's funny. You strike me
as a cat person.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yanks and then his pants cobab but she goes flying
across the room, which I.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Just have to say as a as a gentleman that
wears tight pants. I thought my pants were tight, but
apparently I do not need cocoa butter to get inside
of them.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
All right, And you don't have to hairspray or sideburns
with like the cardboard left and right adapters.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
For yeah, sidebury sideburns are just freezy.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Though, if you look at the Middle Park, do you
know anybody that has a middle part?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Now? No? And that that very much goes back to
the idea of this movie being a product of its time.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
But there's there's like Gen.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Alpha Alpha, right is like the last couple of years
Gen Alpha I've seen them like with Middle Parks, They're
they're bringing back the middle part.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I was like, oh, that's crazy, that's wild to me,
you know, But I will also say that this soundtrack
is incredible for this movie, and.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
It's funny the different versions of what is Love? You
can hear like the air the Elevator music, and then
they do like a remix version like I don't think
I've ever seen any other movie where like they they
play the same song over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
That thing you do Tom Hanks ninety six one song?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Is it okay?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
But it I mean it fits into the narrative, so
it makes a little bit more sense. This is just
they it was. It was associated with the skit and
they were just like, you know, just bring it back in. Yeah,
it's uh, I mean it again. Yeah, like Hadaway, That
was what we talked about when the they started doing
the Elevator. They were like, man, they really got their

(25:06):
money's worth for me from this.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Right, And Hadaway had a number one hit for a
couple of weeks after this movie came out.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, just like again, this was like a
banger soundtrack though having Hadaway, Cyndi Lapper, you know, Rod
Stewart at some point makes a makes a cameo on
this uh that this is the night? Yeah, yeah, uh

(25:38):
you know, no mercy uh Tamia which reimagine careless whisper. Yeah,
like dude, I just it's it's just again, it's it's
very much a product of its time, and that's not
necessarily a bad thing. It's just like dance and like
rave music were like big and like integrained into the

(26:01):
culture at the time of this release, right.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
And what's wild is that, like we thought, like dance music,
club music like this was it was only around for
like a short time, like popularity wise, But to see
how it just like exploded in Europe like right there
in the early nineties or the early two thousands. I
mean because my wife, like she was over she was

(26:27):
in Germany and she's like showing me all these songs
from like when she was like a kid.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
She's like, yeah, this is what we listened to.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
And it was like what is love like that?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
It was just like buts buns, buns, buns buns. I
was like, this is what she listened to as a kids,
like music in Germany, like club music.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I think I think there are I think this is
that type of music now is just it's very niche
like it kind of had that it I don't say
it had to risk urgens with the New Millennium, but
like it kind of died down. It was very much
like you know, uh it ironically, one of those songs

(27:09):
on the soundtrack by jocelyn Is is called a little
Bit of Ecstasy, and but like that's what these nights were.
Was like you you'd take a lot of drugs and
you'd get glow sticks and you get all sweaty and
take your clothes off and grind all people. And that
was kind of the thing, and you had to like
know where it was being held. But then it blew

(27:30):
up and there were clubs and it kind of took
on another life in other countries. But like, uh, you know,
there's definitely still an audience for this, and yeah, I
think it's I think it's just a little bit more
a niche now and it's probably a lot bigger than
either of us recognized, because I don't think we know

(27:50):
how to have any ties to that or know anyone
that have ties.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
To that, right, Yeah, it's And that's why I was wondering,
is like, was this like wave of music what spurred on,
like electric dance music, electronic dance music, like because it
all was, but it was like it was different though,
and listening to the soundtrack again, it's like you could

(28:17):
tell the structures of these songs. There's no just like
formulaic where it's all like it's gonna build, it's gonna build,
and then it drops and then it goes into this
thing and then it does it again and drops it.
It's like no, there was like an intro like versus
choruses features and it was just like oh, it was

(28:37):
to sound like an old person. The music was different
back to back in my day, music electronic dance music
was different.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
But I think with the rise of streaming, like you
can give like you give way to like just experimental
stuff and like new things, and we brought up the
whole like God scenes like some of the Gods scenes earlier,
but like even the Goths, like the the Goth Cruise,
and like even some of that music has like highs

(29:12):
to like that aesthetic of being not quite as heavy
as like club ed ms that I think most people,
but it has that like definitely electric vibes to an
electric kind of punk aesthetic to it. Right.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
And I knew a guy he was on the soccer
team with me in high school, and he called himself
a cyber goth.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, that's the thing interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Okay, I mean this and.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
It was around that same time. It was like it
might have been like two thousand and two thousand and one.
But he's like, yeah, I consider myself a cyber goth.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
It's like I just danced with globsticks to industrial music.
I was like, huh, okay, here I was. I was
just like listening to punk rock music and that's all
I knew. It was just like, oh, there's other types
of music out there that's like a culture.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Okay. Yeah, and that's that's a really interesting thing to
kind of talk about, where it's like if you see
it a little bit in this movie, where it's like
there is a culture that you know, I think for
I can't speak for you. I don't know your experience
with music. I have never been clubbing. I've never been
to like anything like you know what we see Steven.

(30:30):
What Why am Stephen Doug going to in this movie? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
No, Yeah.

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with us. That's the kind of thing when you're like
really ingrained into music. There's almost also this kind of
like cultural like aspect that changes that. I think there's

(32:35):
always a difference between being a casual listener to being
like actually like a part of the culture and a
part of that. And that's what like when you like,
I think a great example of that is like Steve
and Doug come home from the beach and they're like, oh,

(32:55):
we're gonna go clubbing, and you just see this, like
it's like just a montage of like how they're getting
prepared for the day or for the for the evening
rather and like they just they have like the previously
mentioned like sideburn cutouts, they have like the gel routine,
they have the you know with the wearing of the

(33:16):
lip gloss and you know, stuff like that. But like
that's I think that's that's just a general part of
like being involved into like a community like that is
that it starts to kind of be a part of
your life and the more ingrained into music that I
find myself into, whether as a promoter or as a

(33:39):
fan or a friend of bands like The More, I'm like, yeah,
like I want to buy your stuff and support you
and tell my friends to listen to them and invite
other people to your shows and stuff like that. That's
a part of being not only into a community, but
also a part of being ingrained into that culture.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Right then, And it's almost if you if you take
it a lot further than it should be taken, it's
like a it's showing us Jersey Shore and like that
kind of culture where it's they just go they just
want to go clubbing every night and so and the
And that was another thing I took away from The Rewatch.

(34:22):
I'm like most movies you have.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Like this adventure, they usually have to leave their.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
City and go chase after something like crazy and then
they have to do all these things and it's like
all of this took place in la and really all they.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Wanted to do was just get into the not the
Roxbury Club.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
It's like what a like easy premise, but then also
you're pitching it, You're like, well, but they also want
to like make their.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Own nightclub, and it's like, and that's it, Like that's
the whole lot of the movie, and you're like, yes,
that was that was it. But it was a hilarious
movie on how they got.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
There, which I'm really surprised by because like Cohen, when
I when I hit to like the rent button on
Voodoo to get this, I was like, all right, I
don't remember literally anything about this movie plot wise, Like
there are there are key moments that like I remember,
Like I remember the like, ah, man, I broke the

(35:20):
window again. I'm just gonna tell Dad you did it.
But I didn't. I know, like like there are certain
like moments like that that I remember, but like I
couldn't tell you, like what the actual plot of this
movie was, right, And I.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Think when they first pitched it to like as SNL
was creating, and they're like, that's it.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
That's the whole thing. I want to get into the
Rocksbury and then once you do, then you want to
make your own nightclub. And that's all that these guys
want to do. Okay, I guess we could.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Do that, which I for his one note, as a
lot of these characters are in this movie, I love
I think one of the best characters in this movie
that is from the perspective of like a one note
joke is mister sdir where uh, his entire catch phrase

(36:16):
is you just grab my ass?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yes, Dowie. And that was another one that oh man,
my friends loved it. They love that one.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
And then my teachers didn't really love that one in
a Christian private school, but my friend I love it.
They would be like on the other side, like the
other side of the room and you're like, hey, do
you just grab my ass.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Where I'm standing? That's a physical impossibility, or.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
The at the end where like, uh, he gets the
phone call and like one of his assistants comes up
and he's like, oh, Dewey's in you know such and
such islands. He said that he did not grab your ass,
and he like actually leaves Doug and Steve and he's like,
what a joke, sir, I gotta go handle this.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I just do like that kind of comedy where it's
just like you don't like people sitting around a room
or around a board table. It's like, hey, let's just
what's something just stupid, like just think of that would
be like catchphrase worthy and just the team the writing
team behind this one, like, like I said, they deserve more.

(37:29):
And then I think I saw on Rotten Tomatoes it's
like an eleven percent. I was like, WHOA, Okay, so
does that make it a cult classic where it's like
only a certain amount of people like it or like
love it.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Which which is weird because like I feel like it's
got it. There's weird like things that go into like
what classifies a cult classic, because like you know, there's
a you know, A couple of good examples are the
first episode we first movie we covered on a biscayzing
was Coolies. Not a lot of people remember that movie,

(38:06):
but it's it's remocronized as a cult classic. But then
you also have like from the that era, like I
would also throw in like garbage Pail Kids, Toxic Avenger,
you know. And I don't know, like I don't really
know what classifies as like a cult classic. You know,
it's something that has to be a hated by critics

(38:27):
but also be like loved by like enough people. But
how do you measure that love of of what classifies?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah, and and around that time too, you had well
I think it was it was probably more mid two thousands,
you had the Napoleon Dynamites and the I'm Natural Leebres.
And I always classified Napoleon Dynamite as a cult classic
because I was like, I really really wanted to like

(38:58):
it and love.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
It, and then time I watched it, I was just like,
what is wrong with me? Everybody else is loving this movie,
like and it should be right up my alley, but
I just for some reason, I could not really get
into Napoleon Dynamite.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Man, that makes me sad to hear. I rewatched it
last year with Micah and I just loved it. I
was like, man, it's probably the first time I had
watched that movie in like five or six years, and
like Mike and I are just like sitting there like
laughing and just having a ball with it. Like so,
I don't know, you seem like it. It definitely would

(39:33):
be like right up your alley that you're like all
about it.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
And I thought the same thing, and then not sure
lebre came out and I was like, WHOA, Okay, like
that that's it, Like that's the type of movie that
speaks to me. For some reason.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
I was like, but this is kind of like the
same thing as Napoleon Dyne mighte like same comedy stylings
and everything, but I I think what I have observed
of my me taste is like there needs to be
a little bit of like physical humor, but then there
also needs to be like just the dumb like catchphrase

(40:11):
worthy humor where you're like, Okay, this all kind of
connects together and it's not just somebody trips just a
trip kind of a deal just to everybody laugh. It's like,
oh no, he was actually like not wanting to, like
he was on a mission, and then all of a
sudden he's on the ground picking himself back up.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Like like, I gotta feel like box Office also has
to has to play a part in this one as well,
because like, but then again, like I you know, I
think about other movies that like I would classify as
like cult classics, like you know, the previously mentioned you know,
Big Fat Liar or something like hot Rod, and but

(40:53):
both of those movies did fairly I mean they didn't
do Gangbusters, but they like both did fairly well. I
think it's one of those things that like is just
kind of just like lost in time and if you
knew about it in that time, like then cool, you know,

(41:16):
and like they're I mean, especially in the era of
like the eighties and the nineties where you had so
many direct to video or direct to DVD movies that
just kind of got lost in the shuffle. Like Mike
has shown me movies that like I've completely forgotten about.
Remember a couple of years ago we sat down and

(41:37):
watched Wings Warriors or Virtue if you remember that one
to see the It's the It's the Kangaroo kung It's
the Kung Fu Kangaroo films, and it's such a weird
fever dream. But like I think it's I think it's

(41:59):
one of those things that just it's really hard to
classify what what makes a cult classic?

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Yeah, huh, And I mean Big Fat Liar was definitely
one of those where I think we all remember Paul
Giamati being the original Blue Man of the Blue Man Group.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Remember that. Do we remember the rest of the movie?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Well, I do. Go check out the two plus hour
episode we did on it last week hour and a half. Yes,
it's uh, Which brings me to some of the points
that I brought up last week and that we're weaving
into this is film trivia. So I this being one

(42:52):
of your favorites. Do you have any like random trivia
facts before I spit off some AMDB truth to you.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Oh, I have trivia about this movie. Uh. I have
my own trivia about this movie where I had heard
about this other movie and all my friends are talking
about it and they said, there's this one scene where

(43:19):
this thing happens and it's like the goat and.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
It's so funny, and then I had thought it was
in Night at the Roxbury, and then after watching it,
I was like, there was no mention of like a
goat or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
All my friends are like, you watch the wrong movie.
I don't know what you're talking about. And I was like,
I don't know what you're talking about, but that movie
was great.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
That's funny.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
That was like my first watch of it, and I'm
sitting there watching Night at the Roxbury and wanting to
dis connect with my friends over that one joke and
the one line, but I was like, I ended up
just falling in love with the movie aside of that
and saying like, oh, that was a great movie. I
think I really enjoyed that one and I'll watch.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
It like over and over again.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
So the first the first one is a bit of
a sad one. According to Chris Katan, after completing filming
of Night the Roxbury, Will Ferrell did not speak to
him until the twenty third season of Saturday Night Live
due to an onset relationship between Catan and producer Amy Heckerling,

(44:28):
having upset Ferrell Oohatan alleged that Farrell said has said
that quote, I got your messages, but I didn't call
you back because I didn't want to talk to the
production of this film caused the end of their friendship,
which started when they were both members of the Groundlings.

(44:49):
They worked together on SNL until Farrell left at the
end of season twenty seven, but have never contributed con
have never collaborated on on anything since.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Wow, big rip.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
A little bit sad there, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
And thank god, like there was never a second like
Night of the Rock for two, Like I just uh,
That's one thing I do appreciate about Will Ferrow is
that he doesn't want to just like kill some things.
But then like Anchorman two probably shouldn't have happened. But anyways,

(45:26):
that's so Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, you're you're not wrong. I mean, you know, they've
they've talked about doing Stepbrother's sequels for a while, and
they don't want to just do a Stepbrother's sequel solely
to do a stepbrother sequel, like they want it to
be good. And you know, that's kind of one of
the things like that I will say about this movie.
For as dumb as it as it is, and it's

(45:49):
it's pretty dumb. Yes, uh, it's a it's a movie
that is like, it's lighthearted, it's simple. You can throw
it on and just kind of, you know, go about
your day. But they took this like plot and they
like just stretched it as thin as they could. And
the film critic in me was like, I feel like

(46:10):
eleven percent is a little bit too harsh, maybe like
a thirty percent.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
And I'm kind of a kind of maybe like thirty
five percent and agree in there, but I don't I
know now as like as an adult, I'm like, I
understand why I don't.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Have revisited this movie a little bit more as an adult.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Sorry, you just had to be at the same age
in nineteen ninety eight watched it.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
I think this movie and I think for me, I
think it's like my some of my humor has kind
of changed or I changed. I feel like it's probably
the best one because Evolved just makes me sound like
an asshole.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah right, but comedy.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
But I still like, there was still so many moments
that I laughed so hard at in this movie. And
but like there I remember laughing so much at this
movie as a kid, to where like I would laugh
to where I was like almost crying, right, and I
was like, why don't I feel this way anymore?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
My inner child has died.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
And that's part of the That's yeah, that's part of
the thing with like nostalgia where I'm just like, ah,
I really just wanted to like stay in this bubble
like with all these memories, and then like sometimes I'll
pop that bubble out of curiosity and I'm like this
aged really well. And then there are other movies like
Spawned that I'm like.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, yep, I was gonna say that too.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
You Like, there's ones where you go back and watch
and you're like, huh that was that was not as
good as when I was a kid and all good
and I didn't have anything to worry about and going
to the movies was an event. But you watched it again,
You're like, huh, Okay, that's a little sad.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
And as cliche as it is, it is it's to
say this, they don't make comedies like this nowadays, where
you said the perfect word, where this was hair free
and like Doug and Steve just have it like care
free air about them. This entire movie is like care

(48:31):
free about them, Like it kind of ignores the the
the rules of time. Where I thought one of the
funniest things one of the funniest sequences to me in
this movie we haven't talked about Molly Shannon yet, but
Molly Shannon that the scene where Doug and Steve have
that fight and he starts dating Emily and she's like

(48:53):
just in their room and uh, she's just kind of
like going through like all of this thing and like
throwing them I don't know this, we don't need this,
and the like comes first change, we don't need this,
it's like and then like the next scene is like
the two of them like talking about like what their
their house is going to look like, and it's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Well, And you know what I took away from that
as I was rewatching it because as a kid, like
all all you remember is like the sex part because
you're just like that's hilarious like that, but then you.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Just like you start realizing You're like, oh, I've been
in relationships like that before where it went so fast
and then and then just like Will Ferrell, where you like,
I think we're going way too fast, Like you're acting
as if we're getting married, and she's like.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Oh, Steve, I would love to He's like wait, no, no, no, no,
I'm not talking about that. I was like, how many
have we ever been in controlling relationships like that where
it was different the first date and then by like
the fifth date, she's throwing away your stuff and changing
your style because why should you have a glass disco

(50:02):
ball in your room?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I think the better question is why shouldn't you have
a glass disco.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
The fact that it was so sad when she rips
off his chain too, and.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
And like, I don't know why the fashion like hit
me so well in this one, but like the fact
that she's like dressed like the entire time, she's just
kind of dressed up as like the girl next door,
but that one seed, she's kind of dressed up as
like like a mom just like disciplining her child.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Exactly right.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Well, I mean they were what in their late twenties
with Cheetah print silk Uh. So there's that, but yeah,
I was just like, that's that was my takeaway of like, man,
this really did escalate really fast as soon as they
went on their first date, and then I was like,
oh wow, she really started controlling him really fast after.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
That, which I like, this movie is by all means
not deep at all. But if you're going to talk
about there are two things to talk about when you're
talking about this movie in terms of mental health. Is
the first off, like healthy boundaries in relationships, and not
only in like immediate family relationships like with Doug and Steve,

(51:25):
but also at the same time like having it with
like you know, the friends that you keep or or
the you know, the significant others that you end up
end up becoming partners because you end up basically almost unhappy. Yeah,
And I think one of the scenes that speaks highly

(51:46):
to that is the scene where after they're doing like
the the engagement brunch between you know, both families and
their grandparents, Steve goes into talk to his dad in
the kitchen and he's like describing like all the emotions
that he's feeling, and seems Dad just looks at me
and goes, ah, that's normal. You know those those are

(52:08):
those are things and like that that's not normal, like
like if you want a and again that's that's But again,
as it goes back to this just being a product
of his time and like we've we've there's so much
research that has come out in like support of like
healthy marriages, like thrive with open communication and setting those boundaries.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Yeah, but that also goes back to the culture of
that time period where where yeah, movies and TV shows
just showed oh, if you were unhappy, you just didn't
say anything and you just were miserable and that's normal normal,
which oh God like like thankfully we've grown a little
bit past that.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
But that was like.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
I remember there being like because I watched a lot
of TV growing up, a lot and a lot of movies,
Like they were both my babysitters, because there'd be times
where you know, Mom was like, I'm tired, I'm gonna
go do something. You can just watch TV and just
sit there let me. I would watch it pretty much

(53:16):
all day long, like I knew the schedule on the
free antenna.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
But watching different dynamics of couples you had.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Like your I don't if you remember step by step,
but you like this couple that they were always like
after each other, like they were always just like wanting
to like like make out with each other and like
be around each other, and you're like, oh, okay, Like
I guess that's one type of marriage, and then you
have like your family matters where it was like the

(53:51):
wife would sometimes talk down to the husband and it's
like it was joking, but then it's like he was
kind of sad sometimes and he's just like, well, just
that's just how it is. And you're like, oh, okay,
that's another thing that's true that I'm learning. But I
did appreciate going back to Night at Roxbury. I did
appreciate the balance of I can't remember the actor's name,

(54:16):
but but the mister Batabi, their dad and Lonnie Anderson,
because it was just like it was like your rich
dad divorces your mom but then remarries this this like
younger woman who but but that wasn't the case, Like
it was just Lonnie Anderson played just his wife that

(54:36):
was getting plastic surgery.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
And do you think I look good with this?

Speaker 6 (54:41):
Chin?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Do Mom get makeup on me? Or dom get lipstick
on me again. Yeah, but it looks like you were
making out and he's like nice.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yeah, It's it is kind of like crazy like the
relationship Dynamics you would see and and I guess like
a lot of the shows that like I grew up on,
you know, it was always kind of played for comedy.
Who's always kind of played for like you know, thinking
of like the parents from like the mom and dad
from Keenan and Kel, you know where it's like couples

(55:14):
like have kids and then somewhere along the way they
fall out of love with each other, right, and I
mean not having any kids myself and not not wanting kids.
You know, it's one of those things that it's like
marriage is one of those things that you fight for.

(55:35):
It's one of those things that you constantly work at
and constantly have to have communication regardless of you know,
the realities that are put into stories like this, you
know where it's like the Roxbury is refreshing spin on
that because you can still see that like there is
they do have a healthy marriage, you know. It's it's

(55:58):
kind of like a new take on marriage in this movie,
whereas like a lot of the other films from the time.
You either are kind of passively being bullying one another
or you just downright hate each other.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Yeah right, How.

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(57:23):
Carrey actually contributed to the script, but is uncredited, and
it is not actually it is not actually known to
what degree he where he contributed. So okay, we talked
about this earlier, but this is the first appearance of

(57:46):
Eva Mendez and in any type of cinema capacity, Will
Ferrell would actually go on to marry uh Vivica. I
think I said that name Paulin who was one of
the co stars in this movie, and I'm looking up

(58:09):
actually who she played. She played Poorsch girl, that is
what she's credited as.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
Oh, the one that was with.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Richard Rico, Yes, okay, yeah, because he as.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
He hits it, he's like, oh shit, the car and
she's like the car, what about me? And he's like,
this is a racing leader. And then at that point,
I like, even as a kid, I remember it, like,
oh no, he screwed nice. That's wow. Will Ferrell and
her Okay.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
As of twenty eighteen, this is the only movie that
both have starred. Both films. This is the only film
where but both of them have appeared.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, I'm sad because it's like that chemistry that they.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Had what really good.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
It was dynamic and like and I would go as
far to say that Chris Catan never had a movie
as successful or like as good as Knight of the Roxbury.
He had like some decent roles, but he was always
this They typecasted him as like this weird little.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Guy like sidekick too.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Yeah, and and Corky Romano probably to throw it way back,
was that would probably be the one role that I
enjoyed him as like a main character in, but it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
It didn't stand up to Not the Roxbury.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
So I haven't seen Corky Romano probably since it came out, right, yeah, same,
and and not a whole lot of people remember that movie.
And but Chris Catan, I mean, now he's he's kind
of bounced back and he's doing you know, stand up again,
and you know, does podcasts, you know, so he makes
it living, you know, but he's kind of taking a
very like backseat into it. And I think, you know,

(01:00:04):
he's kind of almost like I guess, like a good
metaphor bringing it back to this this timesphere would be
like he was kind of like the in sync to
Will Ferrell's justin Timberlake, whereas like Farrell blew up after
this and I mean even even Molly Shannon, you know,
had like a fantastic few years, and you know, because

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she had Superstar right after this, she had never been kissed.
I mean, she just just stayed on SNL for a
little bit of time. But from his hand, even being
a major player in this particular film, like really kind

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of never saw the height of this success again. And
it's not for lack of trying, Like I mean, he
did a couple other movies like Monkey Bone with Brendan
Fraser two thousand and one as well, like, but for
the most part, like he I kind of just disappeared
for the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah, that's fair. And my favorite skit that he ever did.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Was when he was on SNL and and The Rock
came on for his first appearance and they did this
it was it was like a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Neanderthal type of man. I can't remember the name.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I'm gonna look it up real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
He I really wish that they would have adapted that
into a film. I was like, Chris Gatan would have
been amazing as that And if if The Rock would
have made like a cameo in that too, that would
have just put it all over the top. But but
then again it lends to his that what it was,

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but it was his ability to have great timing with
physical comedy like and it was just something again you
don't have to think a lot to find it funny.
He just watched it and you're like, Okay, this this
is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yeah. And I mean, like a lot of the movies
that came out of Saturday Night Live in the nineties,
aside from Superstar, really were character dynamics. Were really were
groups where you look at you know, you had Wayne
and Garth, you had the cone Heads, you had I
mean even not even like SNL adjacent ones who had

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Spaden Farley, but then also like you had like Sandler,
you know, even though they weren't as famous, like he
always had his like little group of like comedians and
friends that like he would play off of. Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
So, like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Caitan just kind of is a really interesting because I
forgot about mister Peepers and I that was like one
of my favorite sketches growing up watching Saturday Night Live.
You know, I don't know, not necessarily what you could
do in terms of a dynamic, but it would have
been still a really fun movie to kind of get
to explore you know what that is. Honestly, if they

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did like an animated movie and like like it just
took like all these like side characters from like the
fifty years of Saturday Night Live and like brought them
together vendors style. True.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Well, and I don't even know when it ended, but
I do remember starting to watch SNL during that period
and loving everybody's characters because they it was all from
from scratch. They all created these characters, developed this every

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aspect about them, and then it kind of like fell
off and then it became more like it was SNL
was more about like impersonations and like topical type of
sketches and humor because I do remember mcgroober being like
one of the last like original type of characters where

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I mean it wasn't too original because.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Mc guiver, but it was will Will Forte.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Having this character that has his own catchphrases and ridiculousness
that ensues every.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Time yeah on the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah, Saturday Our Lives become And I think that's probably
it contributes to a lot of its downfall what we've
seen in the last few years, you know, in terms
of like it it's writing and we talk to someone
a lot of people are like, Saturday Night Live is
like not what it once was, Like it was kind
of pretty much around like two thousand and nine, ten,

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maybe eleven or twelve, like, and that might be even
be stretching it, but it hasn't been fun for like
almost ten years now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
And I think you summed it up like you'd have
a lot of these like really original characters or like
just really Outlandis scenarios and they would just commit to
it and go for it. Now. For example, one of
my favorite sketches growing up was Dan Why can't I

(01:05:25):
remember the guy's last name? But he plays Jerry on
Rick and Morty. It's Molly Shannon and Will Ferrell and
Dan and Molly play a couple that are our new parents,
and Will Ferrell plays the doctor that delivered the baby
and he somehow has lost the baby, and you know

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they're like trying to like figure out where the baby
could be, and it's just this really funny Outlandis scenario
where it's like, is this sort of stuff like really
wouldn't happen, you know, in real life, and it's but lately,
so much of everything it's been happening with Saturday and
live has been driven by what's happening in the media,

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what's happening in politics, And I think it's just the
part of the reason that we've just kind of seen
such a huge decline in quality. Yeah, and and it is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
All based on writers that I would say some episodes
they they have to subcontract and have these these really
solid and established writers come in. Because even this first
episode of this season, of the fiftieth season was withh

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I had it and then I lost it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
It wasn't no, it wasn't Nate BARGATSI, But I was like,
it was with let me look.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
But I was expecting it to be, you know, like
on par with the last seasons, like I would say,
even the last like you said, ten years. And then
as I'm watching it, I'm like, well, that was a
funny skit. This next one can't be funny either. It's
you know how it's like a hit or miss. And

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then then this one came on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I was like, oh, like, there's there's some type of
formula here, Like whoever is putting this together? They were brilliant.
Oh why is it showing me that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
The thumbnail on it is bo and Yang as Moo
dang the hippopotamus.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Nice that one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Jeane Smart from Hacks Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
So she was the guest for season fifty, episode one.
And I don't know if you've watched Hacks, I have
you What a great show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I love that show.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
What a yeah. And like, going back to Katan, like,
I think definitely Farrell has kind of carved out this
legacy for him where he's done other movies like you know,
you know, Frank the Tank, Ron Burgundy, you know, Brennan Brendan, Like, yeah,
he's really made these iconic characters and you know even

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like shown his like dramatic range and stuff like that,
whereas Katan has kind of like this has been his legacy,
for better or for worse. And so talking on the
topic of legacy, here are two trivia facts for you.
So mark the film's ten year anniversary, a pepsi for
a Super Bowl ad did a take off of this movie.

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So What Is Love is playing in the back round
and at first people are falling asleep, but after drinking pepsi,
they start bobbing their heads to What Is Love like
Doug and Steve did in the movie. At the end
of the commercial Chris Katan came out of the store
and saw two people bobbing their heads and yelled stop it.

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That was in the eighteen or was it twenty two
thousand and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Eight two eight.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah. So fast forward another eleven years and Katan writes
an autobiography. I want you to take a guess at
the title of his autobiography.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Oh, Chris Katan's autobiography. Is it from this movie?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Or is it just something that it is from this movie?
This movie? Oh? Wow? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Is it going back to the the there's a mirror,
mirror in your bucket?

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
There is not. It is called Baby, Don't Hurt Me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Ah okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
But in the book he recounts that producer Lorne Michaels
at a division the Roxbury Guys living with their parents
in Brooklyn, New York, to have the story be this
kind of bridge and tunnel movie like Saturday Night Fever. However,
it was Amy Heckler in the producer of the film,

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wanting the film to be set in Los Angeles, to
have the brothers be the sons of wealthy Beverly Hills parents,
and so the film ended up being set in Los Angeles,
even though all of The Roxbury Guy's sketches on Saturday
Night Live are clearly set in New York.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Wow, huh Okay, So there's things where you're like, thank
god she made that call because I just couldn't imagine
it being in New York City. And I mean, I
don't think they would have the beach scene while they're like,
I don't that that wouldn't play.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Uh, they wouldn't really be like driving scenes because yeah,
who in New York City that want to raise their drives?

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Yeah, it sucks driving in New York, right, I mean it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Sucks driving in LA for sure, but yeah, most everybody
does because yeah, there's really no other way around it.
But it's it's funny that there's there's different calls that
these producers and creative directors make where you're like, thank
god that they made that decision. And probably they probably
had a bunch of pushback behind from like Lord Michael's

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or like anybody else working on it. But I will
never forget learning about like hot Rod, which was supposed
to be given to Will Ferrell and like his crew
of friends to make and they passed on it, and
that's when it landed into Andy Samberg and Lonely Island

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and that whole cruise lap. And so they made hot
Rod into what it is today, which I was like,
thank God for that, because I really couldn't have imagined
a Will Ferrell take on on it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
God no, no, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Yeah, exactly if we would have just been like one
of the other movies, like nothing, nothing would have.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Been original to a Lonely Island in the way that
they made that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Yeah. Well, this goes out to this is a challenge
to all of the listeners out there. Let's see how
good your pause game is. Despite this film having a
PG thirteen rating, a female extra in the background of
the party scene at the pool can be seen fully
topless as the camera views. It is never acknowledged by

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any of the characters. It is unknown if the production
knew this was happening during filming due to the amount
of background extras in the scene. I just think this
is kind of funny and I always love it when
you get these like fu studio moments that like years later,
now that we live in the age of the Internet,

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people have just kind of come across randomly and their
their watches.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Well, and if I recall is that the scene where
the woman comes out of the pool topless and they're
standing there eating like chicken wings or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Yeah, so it, yes, it is that scene, but it's
not that woman. It's like as the camera is like
panning around as they're kind of getting in and seeing
it from their vantage point.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
That because that way, Hey, can I have a towel
behind you? About nine I drive.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
It was like, oh my god, that was that was amazing.
It's like it just goes back to was that improv?
Was that actually script? Whatever it was?

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Yeah, especially with like it being so like early in
both of their careers, you never would know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yeah, very true.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Yeah, because Will Ferrell went on to just make a
career of improv and like every single thing became Will
Ferrell improv.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Yes, yes it did so. Amy Heckerling one of the
film's producers that we've talked about a few times, but
she did direct some of the film's scenes. Also unknown,
also unaccredited and also do not know which one. We
brought up Lonnie Anderson earlier. This is the last film

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appearance that she ever made, Oh Wow with as of
September twenty eighteen, and she is still alive. So according
to IMDb. She has not died, but since then she

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has actually returned to do a TV movie called Ladies
of the Eighties, A Diva's Christmas. So interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Oh no, So with one Google search I get this
one person's sub stack where he says A Night of
the Roxbury was always awful and brutally unfunny, but now
it's creepy as well, which wow, kind of brings up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
I need you to look at this movie objectively in
a post me to movement world. This movie does like
it's not does did not age the greatest in terms
of stuff like that with some of the jokes, So like,
how do you feel in terms of like that now
that there's like such a big conversation around a lot

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of the things that like Doug and Steve were like
famous for the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
I think what really set with me too is that,
like I always knew guys that were like that, that were.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Overly confident and would always like say they did stuff
and they had this like reputation, and when it all
came down to it, it was just like them, like
when they were in the room with the two women
and they were just like totally nervous because they it
was their first time and they didn't know what was

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happening or couldn't pick up on any cues.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
But I was like I knew so many guys like
that where they'd be like, oh, women, and then you asked.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Them there's like no, no, I never even like suits
done anything before. You're like, okay, so you're just like
talking just to just like show off. But that's really
what I took it as, because it was like like
they acted as if they were like these aggressive, like
like agro type of males, but it was like they

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were the total opposite, just like and so that's where like,
I don't know, I feel like the women, most of
the women in this movie were stronger characters, and so
it was like everyone that they were going after just
wouldn't put up with their crap kind of a deal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Well, I feel like that that, like them losing their
virginity is the is the centerpiece of kind of that
the entirety of this movie, right where like here you
have two guys that are, as you said, like they're
clearly overcompensating, but also when you look at their father

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figure who has this pre traditional worldview of you don't
talk about your feelings, you don't express yourself, you know,
you bottle everything up, and you get married, you have
a nine to five and you have kids, like that
was kind of the thing you do. And so it
goes back to this conversation of men don't talk about

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their mental health. If you have something or if you
feel something, you just bottle it up. It goes you know,
we talked about that scene earlier where he goes to
his dad and he's like, Steve's like, I feel this
way about Emily and he's just like, ah, it's just normal,
you know. And but again it goes back to this
idea of that's a son reaching out to a father

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and a father not having the emotional intelligence to really
connect with his son or really want to do that,
because again that's getting into feelings, the subject of feelings
and touchy feely and mental health and men don't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Yeah, and that's where I was glad that they kept
the scene with Richard Rico at the end where he
becomes like a therapist figure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
To the dad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Yeah, the way you're treating him is because he's you,
or he's you as a kid, Like then you see
yourself and him, so you can't you can't relate on
those different levels.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
So that's where I was like, oh wow, that was
even I would even say that type of of like
therapy speech was like before its time, because it would
have been like most comedy movies, they would never would
have had any resolve for the dad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
He would have just been such a such a side character.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Yeah, I've just been an angry dad. That's just like, nah,
I don't I won't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Ever understand these stupid like sons of mine, and and
like that's it, that's the end of the movie. But
to have it like oh no, yeah he can relate
and uh and it's all that from this random like celebrity.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
That he met Richard Crico. You see right through me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
But I mean as far as like harassing like the
women and stuff, it's it's uh, like I said, wow,
I think that really showed, Like that time they were
showing like oh no, there's like club dudes that do
this and uh and it's like this this is like
a commonplace thing, like women get harassed at clubs even

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going out with their friends wanting to dance and have
a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Like there's dudes like this that just come out and
over won't leave them alone until they're all kicked out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
And even like in from looking at from that way,
I mean this move that movie almost becomes This movie
almost becomes a satire right where it's like it's commentating,
but it's also at the same time, like it's it's
making you think, and like we've talked about like, yeah,
this is a pre dumb movie overall, but I think
it's worth considering the fact that, like, you know, the

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first time that we see them tell the Amelia story
in the mud pit, like and they kind of they
get done the story, they're waiting for the reaction and
the two girls just kind of don't give them anything,
and he just goes, oh, you know, you want to
make out. And you can kind of see that firmed

(01:21:31):
later on in the movie when they are actually getting
ready to like have sex for the first time that
it's like these guys are don't have this, Like this
is not a this is not a thing that that
is commonplace for them, you know, And they're kind of
really claws I don't say clauset, it's not the right word.
They're really close to one another, you know, and they

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they have like a really deep bond and you know,
I think I think they're even bringing that conversation. I
think that the when you talk about men's mental health,
I think that's the type of relationship that every male
should be striving for, is having somebody to confide in,

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like you know, someone that can champion for you, someone
that can be on your side regardless of whatever you think. Fact.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Yeah, that was like I made a mental note of it,
and you just reminded me of that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
Where As I'm watching it and seeing this dynamic and it's, uh,
they go back and forth where he's like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Steve, you're really good looking, and he's like really really
good looking. He's like, oh thanks. He's like I don't
think I am, and he's like no, no, no, you are.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
You are.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
And then when they're having the fight and he's like,
and you know what, you're not really good look.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Like the one thing that he has to say to
like like get a stab in. And then at the
end he's like, you know, I'm sorry I said that
stuff about you not being good looking.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
It's like I didn't mean that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Just oh that really was like man, Like I remember
when like guy friendships were like really easy where we
could just like support each other just with a stupid
comment like that and then be like thanks, man, I
feel seen.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Yeah, And I mean it's it's also like really hard
to like find people to like have that with where
you can create that safe space, because like you know,
in in these days, it was really easy, like you
went out to clubs and that was kind of like
how you connected as adults. And now like maybe we'll
meet at a show, like maybe we we randomly, like

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you know me and you like we we randomly met
at a show, like in Pennsylvania of all places, and
now we live in now you're you're still in Florida,
but you know now I live in Virginia. So it's
like but again it's like it's like having that like
I need to step out of my comfort zone type
of experience.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
And and it's it just shows like the older you
get too, like you don't have these tight knit friendships
like you once did where you would have somebody to
just really just be an encouragement in your life. And
uh you yeah, you nailed it. Where we all need
that like type of support and even if it's only

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from one person, still that still counts, and that's still
is what encourages us to like live day by day.
It's like, oh well, like like for me, it's like,
oh yeah, well even though my wife like she'll she'll
keep me humble, but I know she's still there and

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like she'll say stuff, Well it doesn't happen all the time,
but she'll say stuff out of the blues sometimes where
it's like I didn't prompt anything, and she's just like, yeah,
it's I love you because of this, or like I
love you because of like you you are like this
and I appreciate you and like oh wow, And then
as soon as I lean in on he's like, now,
don't expect that to happen like every day, Like okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
I get it, I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Yeah, but I was like just the fact that it's
like you have those thoughts, like that's that's something that
I missed from. Like when you're young and you have
a bunch of friends, yea do like everybody like supporting
each other and making fun of each other.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
But still like you knew at the end of the day,
like you have.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
And I mean that stuff it's harder to do like
as an adult, like right, like if you're lucky enough
to be married, you have that with your spouse hopefully,
because that goes back to the early relation talk about
like you know, toxic relationships. But you know, you said
it perfectly, Like I think having one singular person literally

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can make all the difference. You know, it can be
one person that can be here for uh to be
to be the difference between being here today and and
you know, staying here till tomorrow and just being heard
and being seen and sometimes like just listening to somebody
literally makes all of the difference.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Yeah, And I mean it doesn't have to just be
your brother or like like the show said or the
sketches say, a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Yeah, because at the end, are you guys brothers? No?

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
And every time then he smacks the right in the nose.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Listen, we appreciate the setup, but we're in a hurry.
I will throw this in here as a fan of
the movie show Girls. Uh, speaking of of cult classics.
The the house used in the scene from Benny Sedar's

(01:27:03):
party is the same house that was featured in show
Girls three years earlier during the infamous cool sex scene.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
WHOA, Okay, it's a small worlds some trivia.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
I mean that was a big house, so I would assume, yeah,
like lots of movies, see what you gotta do, your
all your dancing real estate's taken up by this pool.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
It's gonna put a piece of glass over it and
everyone would love it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Just things like that where you're like, what, okay, I'm
flipping through this article now and I'm like, oh, wow, okay,
he's not even like talking about the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
He's talking about things that happened behind the scenes.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Oh, and it's like, yep, yep, I guess I could
see that what you said, like how Chris Catan was
basically forced to date the director.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Yeah, like pushed into that and it was awkward. So
I understand where he's coming from.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
I was about to like comment on this and like,
listen here, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Wouldn't you like to know? All right, well, that's all
the trivia that I have today, sir. Nice. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
I looked and that was the only thing that popped
up and was like, oh no, I'm not ruined ruining
this movie. So, but it is on a hash or
forward slash nostalgia reddit forum.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
I mean, this is like I feel like you have
to like kind of grow up, had to have grown
up with this movie because I feel like there are
a lot of people that kind of forgot about this movie,
where it's like it almost feels weird to say that,
like we it almost feels weird to say that, like

(01:28:54):
starting in a live made movies, because that kind of
seems like contradictory to like everything that they stand for,
where it's like, oh, it's live television, its skits, it's
this is short form, whereas with this one, that's not
the case actually at all. Like you look at you
see You're like, oh no, this is not the case.

(01:29:16):
Like so I very very much appreciate like being able
to like go back and like revisit this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
I thought, ah, well I got one one for you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
All right, go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
You can end with it if you want, sure, because
then it goes it goes back to the late great
Chris Farley and this uh this redditor says, fun fact,
they wanted to put Chris Farley in a Night at
the Roxbury as another Roxbury guy, uh, to use that

(01:29:52):
as his final SNL moment when he came back to
host SNL about a month before he was before he
passed away. But it said he was so messed up
that entire week of rehearsals and everything else. They gave
him only easy roles on SNL. Scriptwriters prepared the script

(01:30:13):
for the audience in case he really messed up live
before show. Before the show, it says he really freaked
because he didn't feel he had it in him, like
back when he was a cast member. He needed oxygen
in between sets backstage.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Yeah, I did know that, so.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
He said, yeah, just like it was just Chris Farley
at rock Bottom four for that last episode that he did.
But it would have, like the world probably would have
viewed a.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Night at the Roxbury so different if Chris Farley was
one of the guys.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
And I could I could.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Only imagine Jim Carrey was wild as a rocks a guy.
But I stumbled upon this random fun fact that before
any like a talk show appearance or something, or even
like SNL skits, Chris Farley would chug like a ton

(01:31:17):
of coffee. It's like all these shots of espresso just
so he would have like that manic, like crazy demeanor.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
And I'm like, man, that poor man's heart. He gave
it its all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
I really think that had Farley been alive, I think
we don't I don't think we ever got to experience
half of what he had to offer, because when you
look at Farley, you know, he is very much a

(01:31:55):
He was very much a physical comedic actor, and you
know that's that's not always the you know, that's not
always the case. You know, you look at a lot
of the Saturday Night Live people that have gone and

(01:32:17):
done you know, full careers, and I think about, like,
you know, Adam Sandler in films like you know, Uncut
Gems and Will Ferrell and you know, everything must go
or you know, these really dramatic roles that they're really
really freaking good in and like, you know, we also
look at at like you know, I I thinking about

(01:32:40):
like you know, eventually it would have been said that,
like you know, his health could have been an issue,
but like I think about like Billy Cardell, Like who
if you've known Billy Cardell. He was on Mike and
Molly as Mike, and I mean, he's lost a tremendous
amount of weight. Looks fantastic now. Like I really think

(01:33:03):
that like we could have seen something that kind of
transformation with Farley as well, and it's just it really
feels like we lost a legend before he even got
a chance to really show what he could do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
Maybe I don't know, maybe that would have overshadowed, like
Will Ferrell's explosion of fame. I don't know, one of
those things where all you can do is ponder what
would have happened.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Yeah, And it like it makes me really sad, honestly
to think about like what could have been, because like
I think he could have been a really like good
dramatic actor. And I'll tell you why I have that assumption.
And it might sound really weird to say this, but Shrek,
if you have, if you have had the ability to
see the test footage that leaked a few years to

(01:34:00):
go with Harley as the ogre Ah, then you know
that he has like some delivery that could have been
marvelous in that scene, and it just we just never
got it, you know. It's it feels like it's a
little bit too little, too late at this point, right.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
Uh Yeah, Well, I didn't think it was gonna be
a downer for as I was starting the gum and
I'm like, oh, Chris Farley was gonna oh damn it, Okay, here.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
We go again. Uh, but yeah, I think that's uh,
I think that's gonna do it for us talking about
a night at the Roxbury.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
I do have a secret thing for this though.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Okay, you go to.

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
Santa pine Hills dot band camp dot com and click
on my first EP, which is also conveniently titled Santa
pine Hills. There's a bonus track on there, and I
don't know if you ever heard it, but the bonus
track is just my homage to a low five version

(01:35:10):
of what is Love and my my homage.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
To and I the Roxberry.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
So you really do love this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
I don't know if you want to end this episode
with that. Yeah, I do quote the Amelia pickup line
as both characters and it's really loud, So I don't
know why it's loud, but I don't think I balanced
it correctly, but it was funny. I enjoyed doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Yeah, we'll end on on that. But speaking of Santa
pine Hills, where can people find you?

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
I am on all of the socials as Saint of
pine Hills s A I N t uh and you
can find me on Spotify, Apple Music, Google Play, Amazon Music,
all those good streaming services under saying the Pine Hills
and also in I would say, two weeks I am

(01:36:05):
dropping a remixed version of Wild and Free and it
kind of ties in with with us talking about ed
M and and the club music because I reached.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Out to a couple of people and they they made
drummond bass.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
Dubstep styles of versions of my songs off of the
Wild and Free EP. So it's a new take on
on each song and it's they all came out so
different than what I had in mind. But I'm excited
for the world to hear these songs.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
I've heard some of them so I can speak to them.
They are they are pretty good. Having not been a
huge fan of d M, I enjoy them. They're good music.
So to just kind of turn on and just kind of,
you know, relax, maybe maybe grab a beer two, who knows,
we'll see who the night takes us.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
Right, You can't sit still while listening to him, though,
so I don't know. You have to at least move,
move your your upper torso and neck.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Just love that, well, you guys can. I can be
found to add Victims and Villain's other podcasts abiscusing and
that's high praise. Wherever you guys get your podcasts from,
you find me on Letterbox. I am on Captain Nostalgia.

(01:37:32):
Next week we are coming back to conclude our final
episode of Thankful Thursdays with the Wizard of Oz. But
you guys can find our find Go to victims at
villains dot net to find links to all of our
social media, more of our podcast network, movie reviews, and

(01:37:54):
most importantly are mental Health Resource Library. So some next
time remember bir To baby, don't hurt me, no more,
no more, no more.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
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