Mission: Impossible - Fallout (RE-RELEASE) - Victims and Villains

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Life without hope.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now that's living hell. This is what real hope looks like.
This is the word that those hopeless people need to hear.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is the word the three thousand people that try
to commit suicide today, the three thousand they'll try to
commit to tomorrow, three.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thousand out tried to on Monday. This is the word
that they need to hear. Is that there is hope.
It's real superpower. Let's hope. Is that hope? Bring me hope?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Welcome to Victims and Villains. This is the show where
we'd sack Nerd, we'd sack hope, and we speak nothing else.
I'm your host, Captain Nostalgia. Thank you for choosing this
mission to listen to our review of Mission Impossible Fallout
and if you guys follow us on Facebook. This is
take two. This is a little bit later than promised,

(00:59):
has some technical difficulties, but please help me welcoming his
mission should he choose to accept it. Mister Ryan Silverstein
over at this Shame Foles podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Hey, very happy to be here again.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
But it's a good thing because I could talk about
Mission Impossible and fall in particular for hours at a
time if needed. So happy to happy to do a
take two. Uh if it means getting it out to
the people.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, same, and and like it's it seems like once
every like four months has happens where like we'll just crashed.
Hopefully this like new way of going with Google Hangouts
just totally kills that that it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
A hazard of podcasting in general.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
We have a few, uh I call them lost episodes,
Like we have one or two where we weren't even
able to like reschedule the guests in time, and it
was just like, well, you know, it's it's a conversation
that we had that we really enjoyed, but sadly no
one else gets to hear it. So I'm glad I
was able to that we were able to connect, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know, at least this week and get get back together.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
We have one other lost episode, and the reason that
it's considered a lost episode is because the file is
actually too big for any streaming service that we did,
so we had it on we had it originally on
the internet at one point, but it's just now too
big so it doesn't exist. It will one day make

(02:24):
its way out to the public again. But let's jump
into what the Shamefas podcast is. So tell us a
little bit about what the Shamefals podcast is.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, So, my wife and I are both film critics.
We run Pinienadelphia dot com, which has a bunch of
other people that write about movies, and we all love movies.
But one problem that she and I face is that
we're much more likely to rewatch a Star Wars movie
or a Marvel movie than we are to necessarily go
back and fill in those gaps in our you know,

(02:53):
cinematic education, so to speak. And so we created the
Shame Files podcast based on the concept that we occasionally
write about is, hey, let's watch movies that are on
our list of shame that we haven't seen before so
they're new to us, but they're considered classics, and then
have an in depth discussion about it. So the podcast
is sort of a byproduct of us trying to fill

(03:14):
in those gaps and watch more older films that we
may have missed for one reason or another, and you know,
kind of discover them and people can follow along and
you know, on our on our our mission of discovery.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
And I feel like there's there are certain films out
there that when you talk to moviegoers or like Sena fit, Yeah,
that one. There is this like you have to see
this film. Like there are just certain, you know, masterpieces

(03:51):
that are regarded that way. And I feel like there
are Sony Hiscock films that regard that way, The Godfather Trilogy,
Back to the Future, Star Wars, Like then the list
goes on and on and like there are just these
musty films. And so to kind of create a podcast
where you're saying, look, I'm a Cinophile, but I have

(04:15):
so much shame that I haven't seen X, Y or Z.
What's it like kind of choosing each film that you
guys are going to cover week to week.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, it's a hard process.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
So we have a we have a master list where
we went through like the whole like AFFI Top one hundred,
and we went through like the list of movies that
have won like Best Picture at the Oscars, and we've
kind of pulled out ones that I haven't seen, one
that she hasn't seen, and ones that we both haven't seen,
and then we kind of throw that together with movies
that we've like heard about or we've kind of always
wanted to see, like one of our favorite episodes that

(04:51):
we did was on Donnie Darko because for some reason
we both just missed it. And that's like, you know,
it's a classic, it's like a cult classic, and you're
making this face of like, how have you not seen that?
But that's that's exactly the for the that's why we
do the show is because for some reason we both
just missed Donnie Darco and so we had a really
great discussion about it. And we tend to have a

(05:11):
monthly theme. So for July we are doing We did
All Spies. We just put out our last episode in
that series, so we kicked it off because my wife
had not seen the original mission Impossible, so we kicked
it off with that. We did thirty nine Steps, we
did Manchurion Candidate, and we wrapped up with the Spy
who came in from a cold the cold rather And

(05:33):
so having a monthly theme kind of gives us a
way to organize because otherwise it's it's almost like two
blanks late. And then sometimes we'll do a month where
it's just like you know, movies that are tied into
other things coming out.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
You know, where we'll go back.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
If it's a remake, we'll go and see the original
if we haven't or you know, something to tie it
into what's going on right now. But you know a
lot of times it's just like we'll pick a theme,
Like in March we did all musicals and picked musicals
that we hadn't seed that had, you know, like a
really good reputation.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And I think that's one thing that I've appreciated about
discovering your podcast is that you guys aren't just doing Yes,
you guys are doing these themes, but it's not just
these older films that like you talked about, like you
did Donnie Darko, though it was one last year around
the time that you guys did Disaster Artists, you guys
also had covered The Room, which is an interesting experience

(06:27):
if you've never seen it.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, we watched the Room, and we watched the Room.
We went to a midnight showing of the Room and
saw disaster Artists all in the same like weekend, Like
it was crazy. So we like watched the Room first
and then I can't remember if we did the podcast
before or after we saw the midnight showing, but we
watched it at home because friends of mine who are
really big fans of the Room were like the like

(06:52):
seeing it in at the midnight screening. People are throwing stuff,
They're reacting to it, like you're not really gonna.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
You'll appreciate it more if you watch through it watch.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
It at home first, and then and then go to
the uh you know, the more interactive experience, which is
really funny because that.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Is the right advice.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
But then I was like, wait, so I have to
watch the worst movie ever twice, you know, just to
appreciate it more. But I actually find the Room like
a really fun experience. There's a lot of other movies
that I think are harder to watch because they're boring,
even though they're probably technically better. But the Room is
like a great imitation of what a movie is without

(07:29):
actually understanding how movies work.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Totally agree.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I was actually just yesterday wearing my Tommy wise o shirt.
It came out like it like this uh A T. T.
Fury did a shirt that was Christmas sweater with him
doing the your urmya part Lisa. I was like, awesome,
need so has there any bit Have there been any

(07:53):
films that you kind of come across and just don't
understand why they're regarded as classics.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm sure there has been.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Let me look at my list, because I am like
terrible at like there. I mean, one I definitely want
to call out is Meet Me in Saint Louis, which
we did for our like musical month, and like it's
really critically acclaim but nobody tells you how weird that
movie is.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Like there's a there's like a Halloween sequence.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's almost like a horror movie in this middle of
this like really bright, brightly covered musical. You know, I
think the let's see, I'm trying to look at our
our list. I feel like the one that didn't really
live up to me that we did recently actually was
Tropic Thunder, which I thought was, like, it's really funny,

(08:36):
but like I feel like I had actually absorbed all
of the really funny parts just by being alive in
the culture without having seen the film and full And
that's when where my wife and I we were talking
on the podcast where we have no idea like that
we didn't know each other at the time, I don't think,
but neither ever said any idea why we didn't see
it that movie, because it's both a movie that we

(08:57):
would definitely like if it came out today, we'd be like, oh,
we got to make plans, we got to go see
it looks like it's really funny, and it is really funny, but.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know, but it didn't.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
It didn't quite live up to how funny the parts
that already knew of it were. But it was really
interesting looking at it because I think it came out
like ten years ago, so it was kind of interesting
looking at it in all the sort of cultural progress
that we've made in terms of you know, awareness, you know,
at least for me personally, around you know, the way
that people of different races are depicted in movies, and

(09:29):
the way that the movie business has been depicted, and
all the stuff that has come out of you know,
me Too and these other movements recently. So it's actually
really interesting watching it sort of ten years removed and
like just being like, oh my god, Like it's amazing
how much things have changed. Where like Robert Tunny Junior
won an Oscar or was nominated for an Oscar for
that role, but like the controversy around that, Like I

(09:51):
don't even know if this movie would come out today,
because even though it's being a parody, there's a lot
more awareness and sensitivity which is I think overall, a
good thing, but it's just kind of interesting how it
would play out, how it might play out for this
particular case.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Fair enough, because I actually was not a huge fan
of Tropic Thunder when it first came out, and people
have told me about how hilarious it is and how
it's just this this great time, this great experience, and
I need to go back and give it a shock
second shot. But looking at it through that lens it
makes me have a little bit more respect for it.

(10:26):
But I feel like it's still going to be one
of those films that I'm gonna be like, I have
my memories. That's enough for me.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Supposedly, the director's cut is really good, and I've committed
to one of my friends that whenever he decides to
dig it out of you know, his parents' basement or
wherever his DVD copy of the director's cut is, that,
I'm told that it adds like a half an hour
to the movie, and there's really great stuff in there
that actually like makes some of the character stuff work better.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So we'll see. Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
The best thing about Tropic Thunder, in my opinion, was
actually Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yes, he's amazing in it, who.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Was kind of going through this like weird resurgence in
his career where he kind of had like Blockbuster failed
or Blockbuster, and that was kind of like his like
resurgence back into the spotlight.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I feel like that's that is definitely the beginning of
him coming back, like making his actual comeback and making
it okay to be a fan of Tom Cruise again,
because like you know, when like War of the Worlds
came out, like he was during that press tour that
he did his couch dance, you know, his infamous Oprah
couch dance appearance, and that movie still made a lot

(11:38):
of money because people were really talking about it. But
then by the time Mission Impossible three came out, which
was like a year or two later, like it basically
like bombed because people had completely turned on him.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
But yeah, I definitely agree that.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I think Tropic Thunder is sort of like the beginning
of him building himself back up in the mind of
the public as an actor.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
So with that, we are here talking about again Mission
Impossible Fallout. So before we get into the actual discussion,
we are going to rank our top five Mission Impossible
movies before Fallout and after Fallout. So I'm gonna let
you go first, being our guests, what is your top
five Mission Impossible films pre Fallout?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Sure, so starting at the bottom, because there are only
five at the moment, you know, pre Fallout is the
sixth movie, so they all show up on this list.
But starting at the bottom is Mission Impossible two, which
you know rewatching it heading into Fallout was like the
second I think it was like the third time that
I had seen it, and I really have I have

(12:41):
more respect for it now in terms of like what
John wu is trying to do and how much fun
it is to watch with like a group of people.
But it's still not good and it's the only one
that's like it's the only one that's not great, Like
it's still more watchable than a lot of other like
bad action movies, so it's still like a three, three
and a half star kind of experience maybe, But like

(13:02):
every other movie on this list is just like like
it like trying to rank them. It's like ranking like
my favorite pets that I've had in my life, because
I have such fondness for all of these movies. So
going up from that, I'm gonna put Mission Impossible three,
which I think has some really great sequences in it.

(13:23):
I really like Philip Symore Hoffman's performance, but it doesn't
quite have the level of spectacle that.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I come to appreciate in a mission.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
But it has a really cool hitchcocky and feel, you know,
and I think it has all the ingredients that we
see in all the other movies. I just think it's
been bested by two of the movies that have come
since at least. So Rogue Nation is my number two
because I absolutely love that movie. It does a ton
of stuff right, but it doesn't quite top Ghost Protocol

(13:55):
for me, which is my number one Mission Impossible movie.
And for me, it's because it captures best that team
dynamic that I love and you know, everybody working together,
and I really love the additional aspect of like the
technology failing them, so like they have all these cool gadgets,
but they're actually not working, and so it's like these

(14:15):
incredibly smart, really talented people like working around the technology,
and I think it just hits that like note of
the teamwork and the humor and the spectacle with the
like you know, Tom Cruise climbing outside of the Birch Khalifa, Like,
I think it has all of my favorite elements of
a Mission Impossile movie at their height.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's fair, and so my my list kind of looks.
Number looks really similar. Number five is Mission Impossible too.
And like I said that during the first time around
when we tried to record this is that this was
my This twenty eighteen was my first exposure to this franchise,
and I really enjoyed a lot of what I saw

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in this, but the in this franchise, but the second
film just was so subpar to the first film, and
then you get the third film and then the fourth
film and then that and it's just it's not really
all exciting, and I don't know, it's.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Just it's the too fast, too furious of the Mission
Impossible franchise.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's fair, that's fair. Like that thumbs it up perfectly.
Number four for me is gonna be Gros Ghost Protocol
And like you said, like it's it's extremely tough kind
of ranking these in there. Really had a great time
with this movie. I thought that Jeremy Renner was a
perfect addition to the team. I really loved the dynamic

(15:48):
and I really love the concept behind this. But I
loved the top three movies just a little bit more
so it's not necessarily that it's like one step above,
it's just one step below my top three. Number three
film that started all Mission Impossible. I love it. It's
a classic fun film and it adds a little bit

(16:11):
of has like a little bit of like a noir
feel to it that I really appreciate. Number two. I'm
gonna go Mission Impossible three because Philip Seymour Hoffman, great villain.
Adding the character of Julie really brought depth to the
Tom Cruisers Ethan hunts in a way that we hadn't

(16:32):
seen previous to that, so it was kind of like
it became personal for him. And those are some of
my favorite type of villains. That's why I argue so
heavily that I don't know whether its season two or
season five of arrow Is is better, because they're both
villains that make it personal, and those are the best
type of villains because they're like super unpredictable and how

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far they'll go. And Phillip Seymour Hoffman was that to
this franchise.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Enjoyed that.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And then Rogue Nation is my favorite pre Fallout film
because I just really enjoyed it. It's just a fun film.
It's it's got a solid villain, solid pacing, great action sequences,
and great character dynamic that you just like, Like you said,

(17:21):
like you've kind of come to expect from a mission
impossible film.

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Speaker 1 (18:27):
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row he's been authorized to hunt you down.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
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Speaker 2 (18:38):
You find it best not hope. Mission Impossible Fallout July
twenty seventh.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
All right, so we're here talking about Fallout today, and
right before we get ready to take a commercial break,
I want to know what are your general thoughts on
this film before we jump into spoilers.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah. My, uh so I was able to see twice.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Once in sort of regular kind of you know, regular
movie going movie theater experience and wants an IMAX. And
if you're listening to this and you haven't seen Fallout
yet and you have the opportunity to see in Imax, it
is definitely worth the extra ticket price because the Fallout
is one of the best action movies of the last
ten years. It has everything that I want in a

(19:25):
summer blockbuster in terms of it's got huge spectacle, amazing action,
the story is really compelling. I think it actually has
maybe the best plot in a Mission Impossible movie in
terms of what it means to the characters. And I
think the way that it brings together you know, it
pays off a lot of the stuff from the first
five movies, not in terms of like an ongoing story,

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but in terms of like how far the characters have
come and what this particular mission ends up meaning to them.
And so you know, with those the characters, the ideas
that it plays with in a really interesting way, and
all the action stuff, it's everything I could want in
a summer movie.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, I totally agree. I think that one thing that
this film does extremely well is the balance of the
characters and like the character development and how when it
comes to these action sequences that are big and brash,
but they move the plot along like they're not just
there for spectacle or eye candy, like they actually have purpose.

(20:29):
I really enjoyed the twists and the turns, and this
is the first Mission Impossible film that brings back a villain,
and so it really has that, and it kind of
continues the storyline that Rogue Nation set up. So it
really feels like this is a true trilogy because you

(20:51):
with Ghost Protocol, you had the last scene where he's
kind of walking away and he's like, oh, mister Hunts,
your mission, should you choose to accept it is? And
then you got the easter egg for the Syndicate, and
the syndicate blew up in five, and so here in
six you have what has happened because of the fallout
of it. But I also really enjoy the aspect of

(21:13):
character dynamic and just the twists and turns, and like
you said, I fully agree. I think that this is
one of the best, if not the best action movies
that we've got in the last ten years.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, and that you know, one thing that you said
about Mission I Possible three that Fallout also does is
it makes Solomon Lane, who wasn't really a personal villain
in Broke Nation, makes him into a personal villain and
Fallout in terms of like he is really driven by
wanting to bring down Ethan Hunt in particular, So there's
other plans and things going on, but part of his

(21:50):
plan is that, you know, he wants to to really
bring Ethan down to like just completely ruin his life
by any by any means necessary. So that's almost like
it's like without spoiling anything. But you know, I think
that adds a layer to the to the film that
we haven't to the theories that we haven't seen before,

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because it's bringing a villain back and then it's so
it's adding in additional layers that the series hasn't gone
to before.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Totally agree, and so with that, we're getting ready to
jump into spoiler territory here. But if you guys haven't
seen Nsion Impossible Fallout just yet, listen to this real quick,
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(22:39):
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be right back after this commercial break to talk spoilers
of Mission Impossible Fallout. All right, welcome back, And so

(23:28):
from this point on this is spoilers country. We are
talking spoilers all thanks. Mission Impossible Fallout. And when Ryan
and I were conducting on what we wanted to really
talk about in this episode, he had something that he
was really passionate about that he liked a lot about
this film, and I did. I had something else. So

(23:50):
we're gonna talk about both of those things right now.
And one of the best thing is that this film
does really well is its action sequences. And so, like
you talked about, like there's a level of action and
adventure that you have kind of come to expect as
a Mission Impossible villain. So let's talk about the the

(24:11):
action of this film and kind of how they handle
these sequences.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, I mean, I think I think the biggest thing
is like that there's like two aspects for it. It's
like one the action itself is incredible in the way
that it's put together and the way that it's made, so.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
It really it really makes you feel like.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
You are there with the characters versus sort of observing
from a distance in a way. So you know, there's
a scene where Rebecca Ferguson's character Ilse Faust is like, yeah,
and it's in the trailer, but she has she's driving
a motorcycle through like a like it's like a close
like market install where there's like a bunch of columns
and stuff on either side of her, and she's going
really fast and that the air is just going like

(24:54):
as she goes by each one, and it's just those
little things, like those little sounds, because you know, when
when you make a movie, like you choose what sounds
to put in the movie, because if you recorded everything
on set, you'd have people in the background, you have
all kinds of weird noises and whatever. And so the
way that movies are made, like they get to decide
what sounds you hear and how loud they are. And

(25:16):
I think, you know, it's it's a small thing, but
it can make a huge difference, and I think in
this movie it really adds to the sense of realism
that all the action scenes had. The other major piece
of that is that Tom Cruise does a lot of
his own stunts, and that if you can't tell it's
Tom Cruise jumping out of an airplane or you know,

(25:38):
flying a helicopter. It's not going to be in a
Mission Impossible movie because like they want. Yes, they do
use stunt doubles, like yes, there's wires and things that
like Cgira moves, but a large part of it is,
you know, it's creating that sense of realism by actually
doing it. So like the in the jump sequence, the

(25:58):
helmet that they the Tom Cruise and Henry Cavalware is
was designed for the movie so that you could see
their faces because usually it's more like like a motorcycle
helmet where it has like a dark visor and you
really can't see the person's face. But because you know
they're big action, they're big movie stars, you want to
see that it's actually them doing it. And so that's

(26:21):
why they had somebody with a GoPro type camera like
strapped to their strapped to their helmet, jump out of
a plane backwards in front of Tom Cruise, so you
could see Tom Cruise jumping out of a plane and
having them lining up and filming the entire sequence at
like a certain time of day, and it's just everything
is done to maximize that sense of, you know, like

(26:42):
you're actually there.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, And that's something that I really appreciate about these
films is because there is there's just a sense of
realism and grounded nature to them. And you talk about
most films that have these fight sequences have this tendency
to orchest straight kind of music with it. But I

(27:08):
think one thing that the Mission of Possible Film franchise
does extremely well that a lot of other franchises can't
pull off or can't do, is no sound, just running
it raw. And I think that that's one thing that
I really enjoy about those action sequences, because not only

(27:28):
do these action sequences feel like they're done in real time,
but that element of removing the music makes you feel
like you're actually there and it puts you right in
that action that I feel like few franchises can't even do.
And there's the motorcycle chase through after they knock Solomon

(27:52):
Lane into the river in the police car. That's probably
one of the best examples of this. It feels like
it's real time, it feels like this could really happen
and this is really what it would look like. And
the removal of the music and just listening to the
to the sounds around you, I think really brings that
depth the few films can do.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, it's almost it almost gives it like a documentary
feel in a way where like you really, you really
do feel like you're there. Like both times I saw it,
there's in that motorcycle chase sequence, Tom Cruise is driving
the opposite way of traffic on a motorcycle through the
streets of Paris and there's a moment where a truck
almost hits him, and I swear both times I saw it,
I was like, oh my god, the camera is going

(28:35):
to run into this truck, like because just the way
that it's so close and it's so perfectly orchestrated that
like they can have those what look like really close
calls that I'm sure are done in like a very
safe and controlled way, but it doesn't feel that way
when you're watching it because the way where the camera
is placed, the way that you know the whole scene

(28:56):
is edited together, it really makes it feel real. And
I think the bathroom room fight scene is also like
a really great example of that because the only music
in that is the music that the people are dancing
to in the main part of the like concert hall
or whatever. And so you have this really low like
techno music that like you you can barely hear, like
it's barely there. Like an IMAX, it's a little more

(29:17):
noticeable because everything is just a little bit louder in IMAX,
but you know, you can kind of hear like the
low just like the low beat, but it's really really
way in the background. And what's louder is the breaking glass,
the pipes, the water in the bathroom, and the way
that the scene is put together. It's not like the
quick cutting, you know, like the Jason Bourne style action,

(29:40):
where like it's confusing and you can't really see what
everybody's doing, and that can be really effective, but to me,
nothing tops this, like you can see all the actors
in the frame, you can see what they're doing, you
can see what they're trying to do, and just having
really good choreography and really nice sort of like you know,
longer takes where you can really show off all the

(30:00):
work that these people have put into making the movie.
And I think again that all adds into that sense
of realism.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, that bathroom scene is probably one of the best
sequences in that and because Like I said earlier, I
think that one of the things that this film does
extremely well is every action sequence that is existing, it
is existing with the intention to move the plot forward.
So that bathroom scene, while it does show off the

(30:32):
it does move the plot forward in that this John
Lark character quote unquote isn't really this Asian gentleman that
we meet and have this awesome fight sequence with, but
it is the reintroduction of the Alsa character. And what
a better way to introduce this character in a way

(30:55):
that you just don't expect it. And I feel like
the twists and turns of this that really drive with
the action is one thing that this thing does extremely well.
And her arc in this is just exquisitely handled the
way that it's can you trust her? Can you not?
And the more that her art kind of unfolds, the
more you kind of understand where she's coming from. But

(31:18):
that bathroom scene alone, just just bringing her in at
that precise moment beautifully done.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, And a lot of the action in the action
scenes is driven by what would make sense for that
character in that moment, So I definitely I love that
introduction because one you're so focused on the fight between
these three guys that you're not even thinking that somebody
else could show up and have an impact there. And
then she walks in and like kills John Lark And
then we additionally find out that she was actually supposed

(31:48):
to be protecting that guy, and so it tells us
a lot about like how she feels about Ethan, what
their relationship is, that she is actively going against her
mission because you know, he was in danger or like
his life was like on the line, you know, And
I think that's really like that's really another key piece

(32:09):
of what makes the action really good is like it's
not just the excitement of like, look at this cool
stuff that we figured out how to do, but it
also always makes sense for the characters. And like the
end of that motorcycle chase is another great example, because
you know, the whole and another great example example of
like a little twist that the.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Movie does where you know it goes to the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
He gets hit, he rolls off, he starts he pulls
out a knife, Tom Cruise and starts running and then
like you can see cops coming from like every single
direction and you're like, oh my god, like he really
he finally messed up, like he's run out of room
to go, Like is he just going to like stab
a thousand cops.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
To try to get away? Like what is his plan?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
And he jumps in between these bushes and then the
camera pans up and you can see that like there's
actually a like net over this like grate that leads
down to the river, and he's actually like it looks
like he's just jumped behind some bushes, but he's actually
jumped into the river below where Luther and Benji are
waiting in a boat. And it was all part of
the plan. And so I love that aspect of like, oh,

(33:11):
he had this plan the whole time and and but
the way, but we don't know that when we're watching it,
and so it's like it's really amping up the tension
of that scene because we don't know that he has
a plan. We think he's just trying to get away
however he can. But this whole thing was like orchestrate
it to have a certain outcome. And I think again

(33:31):
that tells us so much about Tom Cruise's character, is
that he had you know, a plan A, a plan B,
a plan C, and like whatever the situation is, he
has a way to react to it, and I think
that that comes out through all these action scenes.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, And I feel like for that that scene in particular,
there's there's a point where he's talking to Benji and
Luther through comms and he's like me, me, the rendezvous point,
and they're so like it's just a little thing that happens,
And there's so much action that happens between that moment
and the moment where he takes out the knife that

(34:09):
I don't know about you, I had almost forgotten about
that one little point, and then he jumps in there
and then you just kind of see him on the
boat with them and you're like, what great filmmaking, Like
what great storytelling.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Exactly, And it is absolutely great storytelling to the point
where but the time that I saw in Imax, the
audience applauded when that happened, which I feel like, you know,
it's pretty rare when people applaud in the middle of
a movie, you know, And it's just I think it's
so the way that this franchise is, and it's it's
a classic sort of misdirection, you know, like the way

(34:44):
a magician would, you know, it's like, oh, like look
at look at this, but really what you're actually is
going on is like behind him or something, and so
you know it really is that sort of storytelling sleight
of hand that you forget in that moment. It's the
same way when they introduce also, like we talked about out,
where you're so concentrated on what is happening right now

(35:05):
that you're not piecing together all the other things that
you know are going on, and so when it comes back,
it feels like a surprise, it feels like a reveal,
and then the movie tells you like, Nope, if you
were paying attention, you would have figured it out, and
not in a way that's like trying to make you
feel bad, but just in a way of like it's
just that good and you feel that sense of like
relief from that tension where you're just like, oh my god,

(35:25):
that was amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I need to applaud.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Absolutely, absolutely couldn't have said it more. And so when
you're doing podcasting, there is a level of vulnerability and
bias that you bring to your show. And when it
comes to comic books, I have been notoriously heavy on DC.

(35:49):
We've been a DC really show. We've touched on Marvel stuff,
and I just prefer the comics that DC puts out
over Marvel. This is a personal preference. So anytime I
get to talk about something that is bringing a little
bit more depth to something I'm already passionate about, I

(36:09):
love it. So Henry Cavill is probably at this point
in his career most known for playing Superman, Man of Steel,
Batman Versus Superman, and at the same time he is
also Batman Versus Superman and Justice League post Mustache Gate.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, we don't have to get into that.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I mean, I'm okay like with the fact that we
got as subpar Superman arc because of how good he
was in this, But Henry Cavill plays a full on
villain in this And this was probably one of my
favorite parts of this movie because it just proved to

(36:58):
me that this is that this is the first time
that I've seen him do something outside of Superman and
just really proved to me that he's not just this
shallow actor that can only portray this simple, kind of
emo version of Superman. But I love the fact that

(37:19):
he feels like a good guy up until the twist
with Benji and him with the Manifesto. Like to me
that was that was one of the best the the
the antagonist twist and turns is one of the best
handles of this film. And it's getting to see him
in a like a pure villainous role with just these bad,

(37:44):
like a bad agendas just really made me love this
film all that much more.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, his his performance is really good. You know.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I think he's one of those actors that sometimes even
forget is that I think he's actually British. But his
accident is actually really really good. And what I like
about it is that even from before, like even when
we think he's a good guy because he's like a
CIA assassin, and it turns out that he is really
John Lark and he's really part of like working with

(38:15):
Solomon Lane and the Apostles. But even when we think
he's a good guy, he's still being a dick. And
I think that's also something we haven't really like, that
that is not something that is part of a Superman's
character obviously. So you know his relationship with Tom Cruise
at the beginning, where he is really skeptical about the IMF.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
You know, he keeps.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Calling it Halloween because it's like a bunch of guys
in masks running around, and I love that. I love
how that's all set up in terms of, like, you know,
the jump sequence that we talked about earlier, Like you know,
he gets struck by lightning and he loses his oxygen
tank and Tom Cruise like comes over, puts his oxygen
on and saves him and like has this really hard

(38:56):
landing on the building, and then Henry Cavill's Walker character
just sort of like softly lands, like textbook perfect, exactly
the way it was, and he goes, oh, it looks
like you lost your oxygen tank.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
And it's a hilarious moment.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
And Cavil completely nails that like fine line between like
you know, being a friendly, a sort of friendly skeptical
rival character and then evolving into like an out and
out villain, so that by the time Tom Cruise is
tracking him down on foot and he's like going up
in an elevator to the top of the tape monitor
and to catch a helicopter, and Tom Cruise is hanging

(39:34):
from the bottom.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
It's like, you know, the cage type elevator thing.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
So Tom Cruise is like hanging on the bottom and
Henry Cavill's like looking down at him and he's saying, like,
you know, I can't kill you right now because I'm
not supposed to kill you, but I really want to
kill you.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
And just you know, he.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Still has that sense of stoicism that he brings his
Superman where he's like cool and collected, But that just
I think that's just because he still he's a really
good foil for Ethan Hunt, because they are both people
who will stop at nothing to accomplish whatever ambission they
need to accomplish. And in his case, it's a really horrible,

(40:14):
you know, villainous mission that is going to have a
huge negative impact on the world, but he absolutely believes
in it and will do whatever it takes to get there.
And I think Cavil one hundred percent uh nails that performance.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, And I think the one thing that he does
really well in this like you're talking about, like you
you there's that there's that sequence between him and Angela
Bassett's Erica where he's trying to implement these ideas of oh,
John Lark is really Ethan Hunt, and that that storyline

(40:48):
like really threw you for a curve. And but just
just more than just him being villainous, like because you
just you don't really know throughout the course of the
film whether or not you can trust him or not.
I feel like that is something that is handled really well.
But like you're talking about, like when he does make

(41:10):
that full villains turn, you can you can understand and
and you can kind of understand where he's coming from.
And I think that one of the things that makes
a good villain, like I'd already talked about, is like
something that makes it personal, like what Solomon Lane does
in this film, but it's also a villain that thinks

(41:32):
he's the hero in his story. I feel like, like
you're talking about, like they'll go to any means necessary,
and they're that elevator scene. One of the one of
the things that I think that is done pulled off
really well is the fact that you know, Tom Cruise
has kryptonite and this film that we haven't even really

(41:52):
began to like talk about it is Tom Cruise has
this psychological aspect of him with Julia coming back into
the course of this film and beautifully handled arc but
he has this you know that someone's gonna find him,
and it's specifically Solomon Lane is gonna find her and
kill her and and just bring death upon her. And

(42:16):
there's that there's that scene where he just doesn't really
say anything, you just look at his face and he
just pulls out this picture of Julia and he's like, look,
if you do anything, she's gonna die.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
And it's just.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
It's so well handled, and you at that moment you're
just like, man soups went there.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, And I think, you know, I think this movie
really I feel like the franchise didn't after Julia was
introduced in Mission Impossible three. I feel like they weren't
sure exactly what to do with her because they're like, well,
you can't just have her, you know, be like a
damsel in distress or a weakness for Ethan Hunt in
every movie, because that would get boring. And so when

(43:02):
they did Ghost Protocol, they just have her sort of
cameo at the end, so you know that she's out
there and she's like she's okay, and then she's not
really even mentioned, I don't think in Roge Nation. And
then in this movie they really bring her back and
they really complete that arc and you know, you know,
there's a scene that after you know, Henry Cavil shows

(43:22):
her picture and he's like, off, I see you again,
like she's dead, and it's between Ving Raim's Luther and
Rebecca Ferguson's character Elsa. And you know what starts off
this this whole mission is that Ethan Hunt chose to
save Luther's life versus saving this plutonium that you know,

(43:44):
Walker wants to build nuclear weapons with. And so you know,
he's talking to her and saying, like he made this
choice once, I know he would do it again, like
don't put him. Don't put Ethan Hunt in a situation
where he has to choose between you and saving the world,
because what makes Ethan Hunt Ethan Hunt is that he
values the one life as much as the millions of lives.

(44:07):
And that's what separates him from you know, the way
the CIA is portrayed in this movie, that's what makes
it mission impossible. Is that saving everybody and not just like, yeah,
we had to make some sacrifices, like you know, I
lost my whole team, but we accomplished the mission. For Ethan,
that's not mission accomplished. Mission accomplishes. Everybody gets out. And
so that scene between the two of them where Luther

(44:30):
actually finally explains what happened between Ethan and Juliet after
Mission Impossible three. We get a little bit of it
in four, but where you know it's real that like
her death was sort of faked so she could like
you know, go on living. But Luther explains that, like,
you know, Ethan is someone who, whenever he was home
with Julia, would be like, something bad is going to happen,

(44:51):
and I'm going to feel responsible because I wasn't out
there to stop it. And she also comes to see
it that way, where you know, if you're here, then
who's out there? And they both have this sort of
recognition that like there is no one that can do
what Ethan Hunt does. Like one of my favorite lines
of prognation is when al Falton is like he is
the manifestation of destiny and like there's nothing that's going

(45:13):
to get between him and accomplishing his mission. And so
like that scene actually like made me really emotional because
I can, you know, as someone who puts a lot
of stress and anxiety on themselves, just by the way
that my brain tends to were I can only imagine
if I actually felt responsible for having to stop nuclear weapons,
how I would feel. And so again, I think it

(45:34):
all comes back to character. You know, every single great
part of this movie is tied to character somehow.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, And I was writing up like my letterbox review
for this film last night, and I was surprised that
this film. One thing that this film does extremely well
is there are those little moments like you're talking about,
like kind of between Luther and Ilsa that make you

(46:04):
just kind of tear up, or the Ethan's like PTSD
over Julia and Solomon Lane. I feel like those are
elements that this film does extremely well, and it shows
that this isn't just another action film, but this is
a this is an action film here that has depth
and heart and again just has a very grounded thing

(46:28):
that you know, very few action films in do is
that they will show that there are repercussions for the
choices that you make. And I love that, you know,
that's kind of the whole course of this film is,
like you know, he Simon Lane talked about in the
trailer with Ethan Hunt is you know, the fall out
of all your good intentions, and that's that's essentially the

(46:49):
course of this film is that he made a choice
at the beginning of this film and it develops and
he's kind of reconning it throughout the course of this
film up until the end. And I love that fact
that it just brings another depth of raw, real, honest,

(47:10):
groundedness that just I think we haven't seen on the
big screen probably since I would say the Dark Knight trilogy.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yeah, I actually think The Dark Knight is a really
good comparison because I've recently watched it for the first
time in a while because of the was the ten
year anniversary was a couple of weeks ago, and in
watching that, like it it acts in a similar way.
I think, you know, those films are about about different things,

(47:37):
like they have different themes and everything, but I think
the way that you know, all the action scenes in
The Dark Knight are about the character choices and the concept,
and the whole movie is really about the consequences of that.
I think it's really similar to to fall Out. Like,
I think that's a really favorable comparison.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
And so I think one thing that you know, obviously
we've talked about hen Kevil, but this is the first
film that brings back a villain, like we had said previously,
and Solomon Lane, like he just makes it personal and
so like we don't have to spend a whole lot
of time on him. But I there's that there's one
great scene in particular where Ethan is climbing up the
rope to stop Walker, and there's just this kind of

(48:21):
like smirk that he has on his face as he's
watching this unfold, and you know, Ethan, he's just at
peace that it's no longer about trying to bring the
system down for him. It's it's a little bit deeper
than that.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
He wants to stop Ethan at any costs, and he's
willing to die for that. And there's that that scene
between Lane and Walker where Walker is trying to convince
him to come on the plane. He's like, nope, He's like,
this is where my journey ends. It almost kind of
feels like that Batman Joker element to it, and I

(49:00):
really appreciate that because it really proves that he's after
to see the world burn like he's he's just an
unpredictable villain, and I feel like that's what makes him
really good. And like so Blaine and Walker really play
well of each other in like this supergroup of like
the Apostles really brings a cool element to it.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
I have no idea, what's happening right now? I'm sorry,
it's yeah, that's not my dog. It's somebody walking about
our house and apparently their dog is going in dessert.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
But there's a but yeah. I mean I think.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
So. In rog Nation, I thought Solomon Lme was a
really good villain, and then I think in Fallout he
becomes a great villain. And I think that part of
that is that relationship that you mentioned between him and Walker,
and that they have different ideologies, they have a different purpose,
and in this film, Solomon Lane's purpose is to you know,
blame Ethan Hunt and it's not about you know, it's

(50:06):
like the simple thing of like, if he just wanted
to kill Ethan, that would be really easy to do
basically for him. But what he wants to do is
take away everything that he cares about. He wants to
take away you know, his his now ex wife, he
wants to take away his team, he wants to take
away the IMF. He wants to like basically, he wants
he wants Ethan to end up in prison to watch
the world burn. So it's not just about making the

(50:29):
world burn, but it's also making the world burn in
front of this person that defeated him.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
It's a great, great villain right there. All right, So
we're moving on to the show. The point of our
show where we call here Roads to Hope, and this
is the point of our show where we engage their
guest of the week about content and pull out a
theme of hope or mental health. And this week, for
this episode in particular, we are talking about We've already

(50:58):
talked about it, but there's a scene in the beginning
of the film where Luther is has a gun to
his head and Ethan chooses, you know, not to not
to kill this guy that has Ethan or Luther at gunpoint,
and there's a there's another scene in the movie where

(51:22):
he's kind of talking about how to Ethan the one
is just as important as the million. And I feel
like that is a very crucial message that we have
to instill, especially to someone that is struggling with depression
or self worthlessness or self harm or addiction or suicide,

(51:42):
is that you those things tend to like like Ryan
was previously talking about how like anxiety warps your brain,
those things have a tendency to distribute lies into and
think that you know you're not worth it. And I'm
here today tell you that you are from someone that

(52:03):
has gone through depression, from someone that has thought about
suicide and self harm, and has gone through addiction and
has gone through anxiety. Is that your life, the one life,
is just as just as valuable as the millions of
lives and you have a place in this world.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
And I think another moment in Mission Impossible Fallout that
I also think captures that theme really well is when
they're bringing Solomon Lane out to the car and they
open the garage door and there's a Paris like cop
that she just happens to be walking by, you know,
and obviously putting a person who is like in a
straight jacket and a hood into the back of a
car looks really suspicious.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
So she stops to see what's going on, and she.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Pulls out a gun, and tum Cruise is immediately getting
not only between the gun and his team, but just
out in front of her and saying like, you know,
please don't do this, like please just walk away, like
I can't, you know, like basically like I can't explain why,
but you just need to go. And you know, we
even see a shot of you know, this is before
we really know how much of a villain he is.
We see a shot of Henry Cavill like pulling his

(53:08):
weapon out, because you know, someone who comes from that
world where he is like a cias ass and would
not hesitate to kill this innocent police officer or who
just happens to be walking by at the wrong moment,
if because it's getting in between him and accomplishing his mission.
But for Ethan Hunt, he does everything that he can
to save her life, even if it means they get

(53:29):
slowed down, even if it means like the cops know
where they are, like all that stuff. Her life is
more important than that, and he will find another way
to accomplish his mission. And so I think that you
know that concept of the value of a single person's life,
and that every person is you know, unique and has
value because they are alive and they are a person.

(53:51):
I think is something that like this movie actually really
really captures throughout the entire thing.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I couldn't agree more So. I just know that you
have value and you have worth, and despite what anyone
else is telling you, or is bullies or are pouring
into you, or someone's pouring into your inbox, just know
that you have value in you worth and that's that's
a truth that you are just as value as as
single as the millions of people around the world are.

(54:19):
And so with that we are going to jump into
our again. Just if you are someone you know is struggling,
go to victims and villains at dot net four slash
hope and get the resources, start the conversation to say hey,
I feel this way and just to know your worth
and your value. So with that, we're going to jump

(54:42):
into our top five post Fallout. We'll let you go first, bro.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Sure, So you know, sadly, Mission Possible too drops off
the drops off the top file list at this point.
So then coming back up from the bottom, it's a
Mission impossible, three, the original Mission Impossible, then Rognation, and
I'm gonna put Fallout right at number two. But it's
like it's by a hair, Like you know, I think

(55:10):
Ghost Protocol, Fallout and Rognation are all like five star
movies for me. So like you know, I again, I
put Ghost Protocol right right, just a hair over the line,
but as number one. But I could sit down and
watch any of these movies at any point and have
just just as good of a time watching it.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
That's fair and I'm gonna I'm gonna go the same
way the Fallout of Fallouts is gonna bump out Mission
Impossible two and take one through four and make them
two through five because Fallout is my favorite film of
this franchise now. It's just there's so much to love

(55:51):
about this great character development, grounded action sequences and action
sequences that do very few do, and it just it
feels so real, so authentic, and the twists and the turns,
like there's just so much about this film that I
feel like you can just go back and watch and
multiple viewings and just experience something new every time. And

(56:15):
to me, what makes a great film is if I
can go back and experience this film and have a
desire that as soon as the credits roll to say,
I want to watch this again like I did when
I walked out of like the Dark Knight or Dark
Knight is like really the only one I can think
of right now in this moment, but you know, just

(56:38):
just wanting to experience this again. Another one I think
of from this year would be Ready Player one, So
this film definitely creeped up into that to that category.
For me, I'm gonna go see it again before it
it ends in theatrical run. Highly recommend this film if
you haven't seen yet.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, I definitely can't recommend it more.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
And I would say that if this, if aall out,
was my first experience seeing a Mission Impossible in the theater,
it would definitely be my number one. So I can definitely,
you know, I feel like that experience absolutely lends itself
because it's just seeing the like especially these last three
movies theatrically is They're some of the best movie going
experiences I've ever had.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And to someone who sees a lot of movies like
that is a really high bar, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I mean for me, I'd almost have to go back
to the first Avengers movie to like get that high
of like all right, credits are over, Like just let
me take a walk, let me use the bathroom, get
some more popcorn, and I'm coming back to my seat
and listen to this again. Like that is how exactly
how I felt after seeing Fallout. It's just it's it's
absolutely an incredible movie on like every It's like I

(57:47):
said before, it's everything I want from a.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Movie for sure.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Yeah, and I cannot again I love this film, and
it's it's it quickly jumped its way into like the
top three of this year. For me, very few films
have just kind of made me love their product as quickly,
and so a lot of films like I feel like
I have to like sit on and say, what did

(58:12):
I really think about this? But Fallout you just walk
out on such a high and it's so character like
like driven, Like you feel like you just got done
on a roller coaster on this because like the action
sequences are so good, but there's also that element of
like character, like just like character, like little small character

(58:36):
moments that make you want to like tear up just
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
There's a lot of I feel like there's a lot
of truth in the movie in terms of, you know,
both the realism and the action that we've been talking about,
but it's true to the characters, it's true to the
emotions you know what I mean in each moment. And
for me, like one of the hallmarks of a really
great movie is that the more you talk about it,
the more you love it, because like that's that sitting period.
Like sometimes the more you think about a movie, you're like, well, okay,

(59:03):
like I can see why it's really exciting in the moment,
but like now that I go back and think about it,
like this doesn't really like you know, not like plot
holes or anything, but just like this doesn't quite you know,
sing the way that like a truly great movie does.
And I think, you know, after this discussion that I've
had about Fallout, with the discussions with you know, my
wife and my other friends, like there's nothing like every

(59:25):
time we talk about this movie, there's something new that
I find to love. And I think that is like
truly like one of the best signs that I've just
seen something great.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Same.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
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(59:57):
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