Xbox Games Releasing on PlayStation 5? Persona 3 Reload Impressions # 384

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You are listening to Video Games tothe Max. Hello, and welcome to
another edition of Video Games to theMax. I am your host Sean Garmer
here with me as usual, misterMark Morrison. Well, if we're living
under a rock for the past,since we basically since we did the show
last decided that this weekend was theweekend we're all going to implode on social

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media apparently, according you know,depending on what gaming device you use the
most. Yes, we are goingto be talking about those Xbox rumors that
are going around, what's going tohappen in the future of the console and
Xbox itself, and of course whathappened afterwards with Phil Spencer announced there's going

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to be some kind of event atsome point this upcoming week. So depending
on how big it is, andI guess depending on when it happens,
we might do who knows, theymight do a show a little bit earlier
next week, but we'll see whathappens when that comes. We are also
going to be talking about marks almostat the end of Black and Dragon Infinite
Wealth. I've played a lot moreof it as well. I've played quite

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a bit for some of the threereloads. So finally, going to talk
about it on this show. Andthen there's some other smaller stuff as well,
some rumors about when we might hearthe Nintendo switch to announcement, and
Disney investing a lot of money intoEpic games and all of that stuff.
So there's plenty to talk about onthis episode and we're going to do that.

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get on to the big news.Of course, we don't have anything official
yet because Phil Spencer came out andaddressed it and said that you know,

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there's a business summit happening next weekand they will address all of that then,
and I'll get more into what hesaid later. But over the weekend,
lots of melodrama, tragedy, crazinessand whatever. Basically the entire social
media of gaming imploded with the newsrumors that started to leak out there,

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first by the Xbox insiders that don'treally know anything but continue to keep talking
always. They started talking about things, and then there was rumors from the
Verge, VGC other reputable outlets basicallykind of confirming some of these things of

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it's not just going to be highfire rush and see it thieves, as
we talked about for several weeks nowon this show and many other places.
Now it's going to be bigger games, Starfield, Indiana Jones even, and
then big titles from the past likethe whole Gears of War franchise could show

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up on You don't care, Mark, I know, I'm sure because you're
not an Xbox well I meant Starfieldnon consoles maybe, but I'm just saying
you're not an Xbox gamer, right, You're old Xboxes but not the current
one. You're not a subscription serviceguy. So so as somebody that's kind

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of on the outside looking in,you have no like actual thought of as
this as an Xbox person, whatdo you see? Like, what did
you think when you saw this?I mean, it wouldn't it's not gonna
be Halo, you don't think orlike fourz A. Well, okay,
but if you're saying Gears of Warat that point, what what's the problem

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with putting Halo or has licensing issuesthat may prohibit from But the difference is
Halo is still irrelevant franchise and Gearsis not. But Gears could be made
relevant at any point with a Gearsix announcement. Yeah, but they could
They could say that about any anyof their franchises or you know, any
of their craft or making a newBlinks of Times super game. It's finally

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gonna be relevant, you know,Like, yeah, they could announce Gear
six, but it's only been youknow, seven years since Good Gears five,
right, right, But that's it'sit's fine that they allowed Coalition to
kind of something else or help helpother studios or whatever. To me,
it shows a bigger strategy. Thisis a big strategy. This is not

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just some games. This is somethingthat we're really thinking about doing. But
again, these are root Let meput this out there. These are all
rumors. We don't know the officialwhatever Microsoft is going to do. It
does seem as these same reports havesaid that there seems to be an internal
struggle going on between There's one sidethat wants everything to stay the way it

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is, and there's another side,probably Microsoft and Microsoft's like gaming people.
Uh, that's not Phil Spencer,the people above Hill Spencer, that well
there Spencer, Satya Nadela. Yeah, I'm saying that there are people there.

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Those folks are looking at it andgoing, Yo, this is a
lot of money we just paid forActivision Blizzard. How when are we ever
going to make up this money fromthe Xbox brand. Right, they just
announced revenues that apparently they went aboveWindows. But again, this is just
on stuff that that's already out there. This is stuff on Oh of course

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Call of Duty makes all this moneyyou're gonna get these revenues. Is Xbox
is not really making that, right, This is just stuff that comes in
because you you have those titles now. But if you look at it from
a let's look at this from agaming like the general gaming perspective, what
do you what do you think happens. Let's say Microsoft does a PlayStation strategy

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of we're going to put our gameson PS five or switch or switch to
a year later or a year ishlater? Does this Could this change gaming?
Could could this make it to wherewe see the other come well,
I mean a Nintendo But like fluctuatingthe whole, Maybe it's not about the

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console, it's just about gaming becomeslike buying a TV or buying anything else.
It's the one you want, notnecessarily there was these three consoles,
pick one, I mean could butif that's the case, why have an
Xbox at all? And yeah,the the problem is doesn't like Mark Suft
has dabbled previously, I mean longbefore about being a publisher only, and

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they quickly got out of that business, right, and that's when they pivoted
to like having a console. Sowell, I mean I think the they
realized that Windows as a platform justwasn't going to take off because Steam is
there and it's a better platform.This is before that, I mean,
this is I mean, this isyeah, I'm talking like when they you
know, you said like Microsoft Flightsand the latter. I mean they brought

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that back, but I mean,like, but there was a part,
there was a time where they lockedall of their games. Yeah yeah,
Windows and right, I still haveto hear those games like and here's the
War one. So I don't thinkthey didn't do anything that stupid, you
know, but I mean they couldif they could do it, you know,

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sure, Like, but they've alreadykind of opened up so much of
their console or their lineup to likeyou know, Steam or PCs that have
to wonder how much of this stuffwill, like, how much interest is
there from Tony Sony fanboys to likeplay C Thieves. Well, yeah,
I don't think it's so much CThieves. That's that's your decision. Whether

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you want to invest in a liveservice game that's already been out there for
six years. But if you lookat their legacy stuff, the stuff that's
going to come out soon, thatis I think that's a different thing.
It's kind of like when a youknow, Dead Rising used to only be
a cap an Xbox franchise and theyeventually brought to everything else because they're like,

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well, it didn't sell that wellon the Xbox or you know,
it's like it's a very select youknow, it's a smaller subsect to this
group, so why not think everythingelse you can so you feel like there
is even if it's a year later, a year and a half later,
there's no reason to own an Xboxat that point. Yeah, Like,
like we were talking earlier, likeyou want to get a new gaming laptop,

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possibly a gaming computer, and it'slike if that's the case, why
do you realistically why would you havea like PlayStation five or you know,
an Xbox because like there are goingto be some exclusive games to PS five,
but like most of that crap isheading a PC anyway, right,
you know, like Ratchet and Clankor you know, Laugh of Us or

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stuff like that. So you know, as long as a PC is good
enough, it's fine. But theproblem is is like the PC landscape is
it's a never ending treadmill of havingto buy new parts and upgrades and stuff
like that. So that's why youwouldn't want You wouldn't want that necessarily.
I mean, that's do you bringup a good point? Right? It's
somebody'd liked that for xbos, Right, because PC games come day and date,

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they have PC Game Pass. Evenyou don't have to own the box.
They have been telling you for howmany years you don't have to own
our box box. You can playXbox games wherever you want in the cloud,
off a browser, off whatever itis that you want, right,
And so this is kind of liketheir messaging of this is furthering that messaging

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of maybe we won't have a boxat all. Yeah, you know,
maybe we're gonna have a box,but it's not going to be uh it's
the most the cheapest option is notgoing to be the box that that you
play on now. It's going tobe a switch like box. There's rumor
that that rumor also came out thatapparently that they are working on that.

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I would say the danger with thatthough, is look what happens Fundimation,
like they're putting down that's Sony's decision, right, that's no, I know,
but like you want this whole likewhole digital future, and it's like
that's not a permanent thing or Imean games go off game Pass or games

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can be delisted from the Xbox orSteam or whatever, like it's not it's
not like a future proof thing orby any means. Yeah, but isn't
already liked that? And you playa lot of PC games as well,
I mean right, yeah, yes, now that's more guarantees that they're The
difference, the slight difference with thatis like let's say there there is an

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old game that isn't available anywhere youcan like legally at least, you can
always pirate it. Well yeah,but let's se and like that that that
piracy is not like I mean,it's it's a legal hole. But like
if you can't, it's like youwant to find a certain old game that

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like the company doesn't even exist anymorefor it, then that should be that
should be incredibly valid. Or it'slike well what do you what do you
expect me to do? Mm hmm, yeah, No, I mean I
get you. I'm saying they couldalways sell something with it a attachable drive
if they want to, or howeverit is that you know PS five is
going to do that with the PSfive Pro most likely, and you know

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the Slim they're going to have aSlim version that has that as well.
You know, so we're going inthat direction. I don't think that's really
necessarily the thing here. It's Ithink I understand the concern from me as
an Xbox gamer, right, me, as somebody that has a bunch of
stuff on my Xbox family of consoles, that if you no longer have a

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box, where does that go?Right? Can I sign into game pass
where whether it's on my TV,whether it's on my PC, whether it's
on whatever, and I can remoteplay into whatever used to be the box
or something and still have access tothat stuff. Is there going to be

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a way to do that if theydecide to go into the direction, Maybe
not this next generation, because itseems evident that both Xbox and PlayStation are
making PS six Xbox whatever boxes.The generation after that, what happens to
those things? Right? And Ican understand that from that perspective of you

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worry about man all these thousands ofdollars that I spent don't go anywhere,
And now I have to have myseries like we used to do back in
the day. Right, Uh,you have to have the old box to
play the thing. And will theyI mean, I guess you could always
offline motor system and it'll still work. But I do worry about that,

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like should I keep buying games inthe Xbox ecosystem and they're still gonna work?
Right? The transition from that workout? That's Nintendo. I think
they're just now figuring out that maybewe need to figure this, make this
all work. Still don't know what'sgonna happen with the switch to still don't

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know if that's a new backwards compatibleor not. But I understand the concern
the the absolute ridiculousness of the Xboxfanboys going and selling their Xbox and going
off about how they feel betrayed,like they just got broken up with with
their you know, virtual girlfriend orsomething. That's a little bit too much

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there. I think we're those arepeople that have made Xbox their entire life
and now they have no idea whatto do with themselves. And that's that's
you, bro. That's that's you. It's mostly men. So I'm saying
it that way. Uh, Like, I don't know, I just don't.
I don't. I think we wenta little bit too far on that

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point. But I do think thatXbox has not been clear, Microsoft has
not been clear with people about things. If this was your idea coming into
this year, maybe you should havealready come out in front and said,
Hey, we are having these thesethis is going to happen on this day

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or whatever. I don't know.I feel like, well, they can't
do that because that'll just capitalize theirsales doing more. I know, but
I'm saying that like it always feelslike they're waiting until the leak happens.
Then they go, oh, I'msorry, wait a minute, We're going
to do our thing this way orwhatever, even though this time it feels
like the person that doesn't want thisto happen inside Xbox is leaking this stuff.

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So you do have this reaction sothat somebody has to put a date
on, Hey we're having this show, because suppose they're going to Tom Warren.
This was happening at the end ofthe month. Now they moved it
all the way up to next week, right so they were able to get
the corporate people to be like,Okay, we're gonna have to move this

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up now because people are getting veryvery antsy online. You got people going
and showing their receipts that they soldtheir Xbox and they they no longer want
anything to do with the ecosystem,and they went and bought a PS five
and you know whatever, there's it'sall over the map. Right, that'll
show them. Well, I mean, if you get enough people to do
that, right, if you getenough people to cancel game pass and sell

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your system and whatever, it doesmatter. Right when you're already number three
and you're already not selling consoles,having people returned the column, I mean,
yes, they already got the salefrom the Xbox, but it's just
those people aren't showing enough brand loyalty, so that's what they get in return.
Right. But I also think weshouldn't be going nuts over rumors,

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right, I think keep a levelhead and understand that there might be positive
things to this. There might be, right, I think I understand the
people that only own an Xbox areworried that they're one thing that they own
is now longer going to be goingforward the way that you see it.
But I think we also got tothink about the the generation Alpha, not

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even Z, the one that mydaughter is in. Outside of Apple,
and you know, outside of Apple, there's no brand loyalty for these kids.
They don't give a crap about whatTV they're watching, what console they're
playing the fucking game on. Theyjust want to play Fortnite or whatever Roadblocks
or whatever thing on whatever thing thatthey own, and that's it. You

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know, I get it that fora lot of XBOXXQL this is like taking
away their iPhone and telling them that, oh, well, now you've got
to play with the Android, whetheryou like it or not. I can
kind of get that point, butI don't know. It's to me,
it's just we're not looking at everythingfrom the perspective of This could actually make

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it to where perhaps we don't haveexclusives anymore. Perhaps exclusives aren't what they
used to be, and we're gonnahave to learn to live with that.
Maybe this helps out Xbox, andmaybe Sony does the same thing. Eventually
they start putting their games on whateverXbox thing they have, or maybe the

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Xbox. It won't be an xXbox thing, so like to me,
right now, it's hard to imaginethat Tony and Nintendo will ever allow Xbox
game Pass on their systems, rightthe way it's presently constructed. Game pass,
No, but game expense of thegame, sure, I mean yeah,
you know, or he's on theswitch. That's that's different. Though

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they don't own that. They don'town Cuphead either, right. They they
publish it, so they publish it, but they don't own it, right.
They don't own that developer, sothey can't tell that developer, yo,
you can't put that on PlayStation orNintendo or whatever. They do own
Tango Game Works. And the factthat there's there's a data mind that exists

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that High five Rush is going therewith shirts and everything that have PlayStation and
Nintendo colors and all that stuff.Again, like this was kind of okay
when it was Nintendo and it wasit was High Fire Rush and see a
Thieves Only, or the report thatcame out today that they're putting Day of
the Tentacle, Full Throttle and GreenFandango are actually getting PS five versions finally,

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like that stuff. Those games areoldest all get out, Who cares?
But like when you're talking about StarfieldIndiana Jones, which hasn't even come
out yet, and even your likesuper legacy stuff like Years of War that's
totally different. Here's a good question. Do you think do you think Microsoft

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regrets buying Bethesda? No? Ithink Microsoft probably looks at it, and
I don't think they do. Ithink the thing is that there's an internal
battle going on with Bethesda saying,why does Actavision Blizzard games get to be
third party but we don't. We'resupposed to be an independent publisher inside of

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Xbox. Why are we being treatedlike you're owning us? But Activision Blizzard
is not right? And so theyprobably looked at it and go, well,
who are already doing this with AftavisionBlizzard? Why don't we do this
with a dous the two and makemoney everywhere? Right? And I don't
know. I just I look atit from the perspective of, you know,

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who cares if other people get toplay games that you've already played the
same thing happens with Sony and thePC stuff. They all start acting like
babies because PC people got to playthe games and you're not forced to buy
a PS five. But also alot can happen in a year, folks,
or eighteen months or two years?Do you want to wait? Sure,

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you can wait, but it's notguaranteed that it's gonna come out in
a year exactly or eighteen months exactly. Is that game worked it for you
to wait? Like, that's myproblem. I'd still buy a PS five
because I want to play Final Fantasyseven Rebirth the moment it launches. I
don't want to play it two yearsafter the fact. Why not, you
know? I mean, like,who cares? I love that franchise too

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much. I can't wait two years. I don't want to wait two years.
But that's a small number of people. There are a lot of people
that are willing to wait that they'llwait until it shows up on PC.
They'll wait until it shows up onSteam, yeah, to play the game.
Right. Uh, you know,I don't know if that's ever gonna
happen for all of Wake two,but I'm assuming it probably will because Epic's
gonna want it to make more moneyat some point. But you know,

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same thing with like any other fiveFantasy seven remake. Right, it was
an Epic Game Store exclusive for awhile. A lot of people didn't buy
it there because they wanted to waitfor it to be come to Steam.
Yep. I'm sure there's gonna bea lot of PlayStation people that maybe thought
about buying an Xbox for I don'tknow, in certain game here help or

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Indiana Jones or whatever that said,Okay, well now we don't have to
buy one, but you still haveI think this is where game pass sort
of still works. You still havethe option of pay seventy dollars for your
game or paid seventeen to twenty dollarsfor your game. Which one's better for
you? You know which one worksout better for you. I do think

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that it can help to have gamePass, and if you don't want to
wait a year, you have gamePass to go play the game. But
I don't know it, Like,I don't think consoles are going anywhere for
the foreseeable future. In five toten years after that, Who knows is
Sony even making a console at thatpoint? Like, well they better too.

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I just watched rewatched your old PlayStationnine commercial from like fifteen years ago,
so it's for twenty years, right, But I mean there's there's you
can go read it. I'll putit in the description. There is statistics
that show console gaming as far asbuying the boxes is hitting a peek.
There's a certain amount of people thatdo not want to buy the box at

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all, and there's an even smalleramount of people that buy the boxes and
buy the exclusives. It's like tenof the console base buys the exclusives.
The rest of them are buying PSfives because they own a PS four and
all their other games are on there, or their friends are buying a PS
five, or they're buying it toplay Call of Duty, Madden, FIFA,

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Fortnite or whatever, and that's allthey're playing on there, and they're
problem with xboxes. I can dothat on the PS five, So why
do I need to buy the Xbox? Like it's already like that, Like
why do I need to buy anXbox at anyway? If table ever comes
out only on that, yeah,it'll only be on that, but it's

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already out on PC as well.You can play it on your phone,
you can play it on on atablet like you already put You can't put
the genie back in the bottle likeI see people's uh, you know,
solutionists will kill game pass and putit back to the way it used to.
It's like, listen, that modelis going to die eventually. That
model of buying the box and theneverything is stuck to the box is going

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to die. Eventually. Stuff isgonna be on PC. You don't think
game Pass will eventually die? Also, oh it could definitely, Xbox could.
Game Pass could die if this doesn'twork. Whatever it is that they're
doing right now, it's gonna diebecause they cannot continue to I mean,
Microsoft can. They are a threetillion dollar company. They can do whatever
by hell they want to do.Okay, I'm not here to tell a

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three tillion dollar company what to do, but except keep people employed. Yeah,
well that's that's a whole nother whatever. Like, they can keep subsidizing
Xbox for as long as they wantto. But I understand it from the
perspective of all the people that arethis is capitalism. They want that to
make money by itself without them havingto subsidize a huge part of whether it's

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game Pass, whether it's uh,you know, there's a reason why they've
they've continue to put less and lessbig games on game Pass. The large
majority of the stuff that comes togame Pass now is indie games and then
games that are super old like ResiduEvil two and Residuable three remake. Those
games are old. It's not likethey're even putting residuebal For remake six months

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after it comes out on game Pass. Now, maybe Sony has some kind
of exclusivity thing with that where theymoney had it or whatever. But my
point still stands, we're not gettingthese big third party games on game Pass.
We're getting the smallert Why because itcost them too much money and they're
not getting the return on that toput those big games on there. So

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why we have our own games thatwe're making. Let's make those the priority.
Now, here's the thing. Ithink they see Starfield and they see
what happened where Starfield's still sold decentlyeven though it was on game Pass.
But then they look at it andthey go, man, how much for
would you have sold if it wason PS five? And then we could

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take that money and put that backinto game Pass or put that back into
our games that we're making right nowand recoup some of that investment. We
spent too much money, not muchof this APT division Blizzard deal. When
are we ever back to my pointfrom the beginning, when are we ever
going to make that back if wedon't find a way to make money somewhere

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besides what we're doing right now.And I don't think closing the box again
is going to do that. Idon't know that's a what do you think?
What do you think they should announceon whatever day that they're going to
announce this next week? Dreamcast two, let's go partnership with Sego They already
have one of those, but likewhat what what do you think could help

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them at all? It does thestrategy work putting their games on like like
their lower tier games on PSI,where do you sign or like you know,
announcing you know, Minecraft p Sfive version or High five Rush whatever,
because I happened before the other waywith Death Loop, you know that

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exclusive for a year. The problemwith Microsoft, and this has been the
problem for the past two generations,they don't have the games and the fact
they have to keep buying developer orbuying studios, like hey bought Bethesta.
It's like, okay, Bethesia's lineuphasn't been great, like Starfield sold okay,

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but like you know, they werelike Harold is like you know,
the game the RPG of the generation, or you know, and no,
and then look at like Redfall likeno, and then you know, hope
the Activision works out maybe, butlike they disclosed or in the process of
closing toys for Bob and the office, the office, not the developer,

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the office, right, but likeyou know, it's not a great sign.
Well they did that with Suwhammer aswell. Such Hammer is remote.
Yeah. Uh, I mean Phill'swhole speech about like, oh, now
that you have Activision, we haveall these old games or all disettle franchises.
It's like, yo, dog,you already had that stuff with Microsoft,

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And where's Fable works perfect dark Andit's not like you had three sixties
franchises that were popular. I mean, look at Gears the War five,
Like they can fuck around at theCoalition all they want, but that game
should have been Gears the War sixshould have already been made and out fair
enough. And you know, HaloInfinite I guess it's doing okay, but

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you know, Halo is not settingthe world on fire anymore, like as
a franchise or is that a mediaI mean or as a media property.
Uh so that's you the new seasonof the TV shows out there? Yeah,
I just watched I watched both those. I'm like, all right,
yep, more of this. Yeah, but yeah, they just don't have
like the actual properties. They keepbuying shit and it's like, okay,

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cool, but they're not making stuff. I mean they are, like they
obviously are in a much better financialposition, but they're like resembling Embracer.
I mean, I don't think thatthat's necessarily it because the games that are
coming, they're coming. Is justthe problem is I think Microsoft is looking
at it and going, I don'tthink any of these games are going to

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do even close to what Starfield did, right, Maybe not even Indiana Jones
because Indiana Jones itself is a franchisethat's kind of like no, yeah,
it's yeah, it's not far Like, Okay, let's say that they let's
say Star Wars Outlaws was exclusive toXbox, Yeah, that could possibly do

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pretty much what Starfield did. Right. The problem that they have is they
look at it and they go,the one franchise that we have is already
multi platform and Call of Duty thatsells ridiculous amounts of money all the time,
right, and then the other stuffis mobile. Right, they don't
even know what's gonna happen with thismobile store that they want to open,
because Apple is now trying to makeit even harder for you to open something

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on their store. You got topay him fifty cents every time somebody does
over a million downloads. And ifthey're expecting this Xbox Store to be amazing
like they think it will, it'sgonna do over a million downloads, and
then they got to be pay anApple fifty cents every time somebody downloads it
or reinstalls it for that matter.So they got that fighte going on.

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Yeah, Microsoft picking team up andrelease the Microsoft Phone once again, and
yeah, you know, and Satya'srealizing he's screwed up with the Windows Phone
now too, because yeah, youcould have had a third player in that
market. Now it's just Google andn Apple. And that's the way it's,
I guess always going to be.I don't know, but that's That's

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another thing too, is they're atthe point where there's supposedly considering maybe not
putting Call of Duty on game Pathbecause they want the full amount of everybody
buying this on both consoles and PCand everything else. I never thought game
Pass is gonna be on fucking gamePass. So yeah call of Duty?
Yeah, like yeah, I meanthe older one sure, but not like

(32:30):
the new one. Well, butthat's the promise of game Pass, right
you Microsoft owns the thing. It'son game Pass. So the fact that
you're you're going back on that,Yeah, this is a prestige, pun
title. So that's what you gotto pay for it. No, And
I understand if they don't do it, because why give away Call of Duty

(32:52):
for free? Uh, when youcan make people pay seventy dollars and they
sure as hell will even if it'son Xbox. So I don't see why
not, Like I think that thathonestly, look, this is a decent
idea. I really honestly feel likethis is the last idea that they have
if this doesn't work, if theydon't get enough money to subsidize all this

(33:15):
or whatever Microsoft deems is enough money, right, because it depends on how
much faith they have in this.But do you see the other side.
I think for the people that arethat are not wanting this to happen,
like they probably feel like, man, we're at the purposes, We're almost
there, like when avowed and anduh, what's the Indiana Jones and and

(33:37):
some of these other games come out. We're finally going to have the games
that people want to come to usto play. And we have others in
the pipeline Hell Blaine and all thatstuff. Like, we're finally starting to
get out the games people want toplay that we own with these studios.
Why not wait, do you thinkthey have a point too? Or which

(33:57):
one do you think is really moreof the do they need to keep playing
the waiting game? Or or doesMarx point of Okay, we need to
take this in a different direction.I don't know. You know, well
you keep bringing this up, butwho knows. We'll see you next week
with what they say. Yeah,like, you know, spend on almost
almost forty five minutes talking about this, but we'll see what happens. Like

(34:17):
I don't need to play every game, like and you don't either, like
and if you have to wait forsomething, oh well, like everyone has
I'm sure dozens hundreds, possibly thousandsof other games that could be playing already,
So you don't need to play somethingright when it first comes out,
like who cares? Very true,but the issue of how Fomo is real

(34:47):
not me, I'm talking about itin general for people. No, that's
for you also, No, Iknow for me, I'm saying I'm not
just speaking about myself. I'm sayingI see it. I see it right
now with hell Divers too, peopleare looking at what people are talking about
and they're going, oh my god, I'm about to hit the purchase button,

(35:07):
and it's like, hey, ithappens, right, I mean,
that's like cow World of that VRising game from last year, you know,
right, and especially the fact thathell Divers Dudent's forty bucks that helps
a lot, right, Yeah,you know that's it's the sort we're going
to get into here with I guesslet's go ahead and get into it.

(35:27):
You'd be soft now, to befair, a suicide killed the Justice League
was also seventy dollars or sixty dollarswhatever. There's a beta that you can
go and play Sculling Bones right now. Actually, so, how much do
you hate yourself to do that?I'm not I'm not doing this, but
if you want to until I thinkfunny Monday, you have to actually go

(35:52):
buy the game. But from nowto the eleventh you can go play Sculling
Bones and try it out. Butwith all of the craft that's going on
with you Be Soft and all thestuff that they've been through with this game.
This feels like Eve Goumont coming outand going, we have to cho
with He's not gonna say this,we have to charge seventy dollars. He

(36:14):
goes, we have to recoup allthis investment that we made on this game.
But he comes out and says thatSkull and Bones is a quadruple A
game and we're all gonna see it, and that's why he's starting seventy dollars.
It's such a creditruple A game.The ford a tenant Metacritic is gonna
make that really impressive. Yeah,I get it from his perspective, like,

(36:37):
let's just try to get the mostmoney we can out of this thing
until it blows up or whatever.The thing is that you Be Soft is
the one company that will keep puttingmoney into their game even if it starts
out bad because they have so manystories of well, people are still playing

(36:58):
Track Media, people are still playingfor Honor, people are still playing Rainbow
six Siege, right, so they'lldo it with this too. The problem
with that is all those games startedoff at a bunch of better plays.
Actually there wasn't this glut of liveservice games also at that time. Yeah
so, and also like this isclearly such a derivative of Assassin's Creed,

(37:21):
you know, the pirate ship inthat game, but without the Assassin's Creed
stuff. Like it's all just youknow, a prettier looking lets one version
of a Thieves. Yeah that's anissue, right, isn't it? Also
like it's a p VP game,right, like you're building your ship to
go against other ships. And yeah, I don't know he paid a win

(37:45):
stuff in there too, which that'sI'm sure there is because it always is
an Assassin's Creed ship or we sawstuff that's not going to help them either.
I'm not going map to all theall the blueprints to get the to
get the better ship cannon or everstuff like that. Yeah, I pose
a question on Twitter. But like, at the end of the year,

(38:06):
which is going to be the biggerdisaster c Thieves or Suicide Squad? All
right? Yeah, it's a realsorry, Yeah, I mean yeah.
The thing that sucks is, youknow, Suicide Squad feels like it has
redeeming qualities, but there's like nobodywants it to be a live service game,
whereas like this thing is just alive service game, and they're like,

(38:30):
oh, yeah, we'll we'll justcharge your seventy bucks. And I
think you're you're seeing the difference inthe reason why Hell Divers Too and Power
World have this like bunch of zeiteguys surround it. I don't know how
much Hell Divers Who is going tolast is the fact that those are cheaper
games. You're you're giving us acheaper price point for something that you're supposed

(38:54):
to be able to make a bunchof the money afterwards, right when people
are investing in your game and they'rebuying stuff off the store and all that,
Like, isn't that the point oflive service. I get it that
you don't want to go free toplay, but at least make the thing
cheaper. And it feels kind ofcrappy to those developers and everybody that,

(39:15):
oh, we're going to charge seventydollars for this and kind of doom it
on day one. I know you'rehoping that that open beta is going to
get people to want to play,but I don't know, I feel like
we're not going to get these glowingreviews of that game when people get done
playing that open beta, right,And most of the reviews for Suicide Squad
have been like, hey, it'sit's a decent enough game if it were

(39:36):
single player or a co op right. Yeah. The fact that Cranmon is
live service thing that no one wantscompletely destroys the game, right, And
a lot of the mission structure issamey because of that. Yeah, it's
just like what happened with Dabo fourkind of like, yeah, get into
that game is fine once or twice, but then it's like, oh,
play forever or play for the nextten years. It's like there's not enough

(39:58):
game here to justify that at all. Like, yeah, exactly. Yeah,
we'll definitely see what happens with Ebsofton that front for sure when this
game comes out, but maybe andalso see how quickly they discount it,
right, because that's another thing.Like I said with Prince of Persia,
it also might have suffered from numberone powwell date, it's lunch as far

(40:22):
as the hype cycle goes. Butthen also being fifty dollars probably doesn't help
it when people look at that gameand they go, I don't know if
I want to play fifty dollars forthat, right, Yeah, I think
it was twenty, I might grabit, or you know, yeah,
exactly it was twenty or thirty,I would go and grab it. But
here's the thing, is like,yeah, look at like Metroid Dread,

(40:42):
Like that was seventy bucks or sixtybucks. People, Metroid Dread is a
Nintendo product. They're going to sellyou that thing at sixty bucks. You're
buying a Nintendo published thing that theycan get away with that, right,
But when Ebsoft constantly puts their stuffon sale very quickly and then only they
have US Plus and uh, youknow, Power World came out a day

(41:07):
later and just freaking ate up allthe oxygen, it's gonna be make it
difficult for Principherge to get any kindof play from people that aren't just knowing
about it and and and love that, you know. Yeah, But all
right, before we get into othernews stuff, let's pivot a little bit
and talk about games have been playinghere? Uh you're you said you're at

(41:29):
the end almost beat it last night? Oh you beat it? Okay?
So so is it worth the trek? Is it worth going through the fourteen
chapters? And yeah, it didn'tquite end how I thought it would as
far as I thought, like chapterthirteen would be like Curious chapter and chapter
fourteen and be Echy Bonds. Yeah, but actually ITCHI bond story ended up

(41:50):
Uh that ended first and then endedwith carry You and they will end in
chapter fourteen, like it's still buildingup. Uh. The game does have
like some all painting problems, likeyou're only in chapter I think you said
chapter eight or four? Four?Okay four. They introduced a character in
chapter ten and it's like that's alittle too late to introduce a new character.

(42:13):
And they introduced another new character inchapter thirteen and it's like this is
the end of the game or youknow, it's not like I got eight
more chapters to hang out with thisdude, Like what the hell? Yeah,
I think for someone of five hadthat problem. Also, they introduced
like I think it was Haru,like right, yeah, and it's like,
man, this not that she's notlike a good character, but like

(42:36):
you have so little time to hangout with her that she's forgotten about basically.
But yeah, I really liked it. I reviewed it. I wrote
the review last night. Yeah,like what do you want to know?
Or I mean I basically got tothe bar where they introduced the sujimn thing.
Yeah, just hilarious by the way. Uh so I had a weird

(43:00):
thing with that where I found adecent guy like this big fat guy and
I used him for like eighty percentof that thing because he has decimated everyone.
Right, But at a certain pointyou do need like a specialized team,
so that makes sense. Have funsafe scumming the gotcha machine. Oh

(43:22):
it works with gotcha Yeah. Imean no, no, it's it's well,
you think of tickets all the time. It's not like some a win
thing or anything like that. Imean, if you get the DLC,
it just gives you better ones.But like, right, I've heard that.
Yeah, I just used like theregular ones and I was able to
beat that thing, like no problem. Yeah. I think we talked about
the Dundoko Island thing last time.You haven't done more of that, have

(43:45):
you. I haven't got to thatpoint, so yeah, I yeah,
it's just like I I think thatthe story for me already has gotten more
interesting, right, I feel likeI'm connecting with Tomy Zala. You haven't
even met Danny tree House character yet, So yeah, that's that's kind of

(44:09):
what I want to like I guessget your thought of where does this rank
with Yakuza lack a Dragon? Doyou think this is better? I do
think that they pay off. Yeah, yeah they they actually So there is
a fight like you do you seethe old Akuza guys, and there's a
good moment with them. Yeah,it mostly works. There are a few

(44:32):
annoying fights way later in the game. One in particular is real annoying because
it splits your party up and that'sreal awkward. Right, But yeah,
all the characters are good. Ithink, yeah, it's better than original
one. The only thing I don'tlike about the battle system in this is

(44:53):
how like Kru and Ban are likethe leaders of the party, so if
they go down, it's game over. Ah that's dumb. Yeah, I've
always not liked that at all.Yeah, I hate that. Yeah,
because it's like I got infant,you know, I got health or you
know, Phoenix dollins basically, andI have other characters that can use them,

(45:15):
like right, uh yeah, there'sone fight in like the optional dungeon
against this robot that like destroyed melike nine times before I basically really had
to cheese it. I basically justkept summoning in pound mates, and eventually
this wore it down because it waslike doing this like lazier death eye thing

(45:37):
that would like kick off half myparty's met like health and one hit and
also cause burning. And it's like, oh this is cool and you do
like four times in a row.Meat. Yeah, you don't get it's
funny. You don't really get alot of money in the game until like
way later on. Also like Idon't know, are you like, yeah,

(45:59):
I've had I've run into that problemtoo, where you keep seeing like
all of these stores that sell likeweapons and things for like thousands of dollars
and I'm like, holy crap,you know, like how am I ever
going to get that kind of money? Yeah, So there are three the
three main ways to do that.You can save you eventually do access a

(46:21):
casino in the game, like youknow, poker and stuff. You can
save sum the poker game like wintwenty thousand and then quit, save do
it again. Dunduko Island. Youcan you can convert the money the don
Doko bucks into real world money.It's not great. I think it's like
one million bucks equals ten thousand dollars. And the final one, which I

(46:44):
did a lot. A few nightsago was that robot boss and the optional
dungeon. I think it's chu toToasta has a money sucking ability with the
housemaid or the housekeeper. If youdo it against the boss, you get
fifty thousand dollars, which is alot. And then you you lose against
the boss, and it kicks youright of the dungeon, but can go

(47:07):
back in the dungeon right to theboss again and keep doing it over and
over. So I got like threethree million dollars just doing that, and
then I don't face this boss.Have you done any are you even?
Have you done much of the jobstuff yet? Or no? No?
And that job stuff is after that. I forgot that yet. Like it's

(47:29):
funny. Yeah, no, Iwas gonna say most of the jobs,
like there's the core jobs are goodenough, but you know, like I
changed a few of them, butlike I always kept to cure you as
the dragon of Dojama or you knoweach of Bond's always the hero. Oh
really you didn't change? Uh?I mean you can, but I wanted
to get to level thirty. Also, like there's a trophy for that.

(47:52):
So that's also one annoying problem.The trophies are actually pretty approachable in this
game, but there is a trophyto get uh ittubinet the level seventy and
I finished the game like level fiftythree, I think or fifty four,
and the enemies cap out at levelfifty five. So I said, Okay,
how do you do this? Andthe guy is do a lot of

(48:14):
grinding? Great, can't wait forthat. Yeah, that sounds wonderful.
I just want to do that.Yeah. Is there is there like the
battle arena or something that like makesit kind of fun for you to grind?
Or is it just the two dungeonshave like a harder mode or like
a harder level, But that's it, Like that's the only way really,

(48:34):
And even those enemies cap out fiftyfive as well, so that sucks.
Yeah for me, I've just beenenjoying it. I've been doing the side
stories. I think I have likelike twenty eight of them done already,
yeah, and just kind of goingthrough it slowly. So I think I
think there's a forty in total,or at least forty, because there's a

(48:58):
trophy to complete forty sides stories.It's like fifteen total, but I had
them all. Yeah, and youknow, how uh Ichiban has the like,
well, he has the friend system, like the Aloha link stuff,
right, you haven't played a CureYou yet, but he has a really
interesting system where you run around collectingmemories of his past and that's what like

(49:21):
levels him up. Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I've been kind
of like just fighting every single groupof people that I walk up, you
know, walk by, right,and except for the purple guys what he
does, yeah, the pink orpurple guys. Yeah, I've been that's

(49:42):
kind of been working for me.I got all my I'm in chapter four
and I think all Cure You andEachivan are both at like level seventeen,
right, so yeah, I'm notsure. And and I've already went through
like when you go through the sectionwhere you're at where you move where they
move to the other part they they'vemoved up to like where I'm at at

(50:06):
level sixteen or whatever. So I'mlike, well, okay, I guess
I have to keep grinding or whatever. I don't I don't know, but
yeah, I'm having fun. Theall the side story stuff is fun.
That game is just so goofy.I just love how stupid some of the
the story part that I was tellingyou where you fight a cop for you

(50:28):
know, a story reason, andthen he just he just like it's done.
He just saved Tommy's Outa's life outof nowhere. The dude's telling him,
dude, you could have died,and he's worried about his hair,
and I'm like, oh my god, this game is so dumb. I
just love that. I love thatthey still got eachion's character so awesome,

(50:50):
and yeah, yeah, we'll see, I guess. As I keep going
through the game, I figured outa way that I can since the game
is an RPG and I don't haveto constantly be looking at it all the
time, like if I was playingan action game. I figured out a
way where I can spend more timewith it now than only playing during off

(51:13):
hours. So I'm hoping that thebattle system to kind of run forever or
yeah, yeah, you don't haveto like yeah, keep your eye on
or like be entirely focused on itor anything. Yeah, this to move
over to another game that I've finallybeen able to spend you know, more
time with now for Sona three.It's my first time playing Persona three at

(51:38):
all, so you know, forme, I know, you have a
bunch of history with the series andall that stuff, right, But I'm
loving it. I know part ofit is sometimes just like a it's a
task manager, and some of thatis not always the most fun. I

(51:59):
think you kind of have to getthrough that to get to more of the
fun stuff. But I do likethat it doesn't feel overwhelming like sometimes Persone
five felt that way where it wasjust like, oh my god, there
is so much stuff to do here, right, Yeah, I heard I
heard now the reviews that like thecity is still kind of barren, but

(52:22):
like the dorm is very expanded,or you can do a lot of shit
in the dorm. Now, yeah, you can do more stuff from the
dorm. You know, you cantell it to have you play the online
game or do you think you cango to your desk you can do the
dorm has the vending machines things likethat, you know. So I've been

(52:45):
like it just being able to playit. I love doing the the tartarist
thing gets gets a little bit monotonousbecause it does feel like it's the same
thing over and over. Yeah,there's not a lot of variety. I
know, they're like supposedly procedurally jadedor whatever. But it does feel like

(53:05):
I do kind of feel like Ilike the progression, you know, and
the battle system is fun because theyadded a lot of the Persona five like
style to it and not all outof attacks and all that stuff, even
though it kind of does feel likeyou're doing a lot of the same as
well, like where it's just oh, I'm I'm basically knocking both of the
or however many enemies are there,so I could do all the all out

(53:25):
of attack and then rise or whatever. But I do like that it tries
to challenge you to do the tartarusas much as you possibly can in one
day, so you have space todo the other stuff that you're supposed to
do if you want to match outthe social linga. And that that's why
I ended five, Like I couldrun through the dungeon doll like one night
and then you know, you startto do the boss of the next day,

(53:49):
but it's the rest of the monthto hang out and do fun stuff,
yeah, and then just fusing personasand that kind of thing. So
like I'm having fun with all that. Just so I am kind of following
a guide a little bit because youknow, just to kind of have a
sort of direction of like what Ineed to do on certain days or what.

(54:12):
But yeah, I'm enjoying it,at least enjoying the simplicity of but
still also liking those characters. Andthen I like the sort of the setting
of Persona three a little bit moreto that that kind of like darkness of
it. Yeah, so head overand over that not that necessarily, but
it is a kind of cool wayto get the persona to come out as

(54:35):
opposed to the other one. SoI do kind of agree that. Have
you have you faced a boss ona train or has there been like a
train sequence? No, I'm onlylike I just started may so I'm still
I mean, that doesn't mean anythingto me. I barely. I don't
remember like the days or anything likethat. Neck yeah, I know,
I'm I got to like level twentytwo and the Tartarus and then it stops

(54:58):
you. And this is the firsttime you get to deal with like,
oh, there's a border or whateverand you have to go find a way
to knock that out. So okay, yeah, I guess I have to
keep going through a story for youtoo. I remember the train part and
the original Persona game. In Personathree, it was like a real band
in the ass because it was likea tied boss fight and if you didn't

(55:19):
do it correctly, it's a gameover and you can't Yeah, you can't
get out of it, or youknow, it's like okay, I gotta
I gotta do this. Yeah,I am also doing that thing where you
I have the multiple saves that areready to go if I totally mess up
on something. So yeah, Ilearned that pretty quick, Like, Okay,
you don't want to just have onesaved because then you're screwed if you
do. So yeah, it's it'sa lot of management as well, like

(55:45):
making sure I have enough money todo certain things because all these things that
you do or cost money and everything. So yeah, I know, I
know that's not going to work foreverybody. There's I don't think this is
going to but I think if youlike Persona five, oh, you could
definitely play this and I think you'llenjoy it. I do think that the
big sales that have got the fastestgame to sell a million copies for Atlas,

(56:08):
which is pretty amazing, also helpsto show when you have an actual
like multi platform release on day oneAtlas what happens? Look at all that
money you're making off theme and andeverything else, you know, So I
do think I wonder how quickly we'regoing to eventually get a Person of four
remake if this keeps doing well.So let's see how that goes. I

(56:30):
think more people would actually more intolike Person on one or two. Ohll
they I think there's no there's beenreports. I think that they are working
on like remasters of those. Idon't know if they're doing full remakes,
but at least having them on modernplatforms would definitely help, right, you
know. And and I don't knowif they'll mess with some of the because

(56:51):
doesn't that have that has the thingwhere you don't control the whole party also?
Right? Those? Yeah, theyjust make it like a modern game
where you can and control the party. Yeah, that's all the createst party
of for Toon of three, likethe original one is like, yeah,
you only control the main character,and it's like you can kind of tell
the other people what to do,but it's like vague suggestions. They're just

(57:12):
gonna do it on their own,which sucked. Yeah, definitely that did
suck for sure. So I'm notgoing to because you know, for one,
you didn't play it, you're it'sfine, Like February seventh, found
Fantasy seven Rebirth demo, and thenalso like I don't we don't really need

(57:35):
to talk that much about the stayto play because a lot of it is
huge spoilers, so I'm gonna nottalk about things that like get spoiled in
there. But I did think it'sa really great twenty minutes for that is
a final trailer that you don't needto watch it all if you don't want
to be spoiled, because it willfinish spoiling you the entirety of whatever that

(57:58):
game is going to be if youwatch it, so don't. I would
recommend don't watch that final trailer atall unless you just unless you're like me,
you don't care about spoilers, oryou're gonna be like me and you
forget half the crap when you finallyplay the game. So I I do
think that, like it was coolthe way that they showed like how the
map is all interconnected and how that'sall gonna work. And I don't know

(58:22):
if you saw any of that atall. I think you said you didn't,
but I willfully didn't want to watchit because it's again it's also gonna
be out in three weeks. Cares. No, Definitely, they did show
some cool stuff, Like they showedyou know, the all the many like
there's a hundred of it feels likea gazillion mini games and this thing.

(58:43):
Uh, they're they're they're rivaling likelack of dragon levels of many games in
this game. I love that theyjust totally like went with that and that
one for sure. Yeah, thethe the big stuff with the characters and

(59:06):
all their synergy attacks. That looksawesome, Like, man, how many
of them there are? It feelslike I did not think that there was
going to be that many. Uhso that's awesome too. And yeah,
and this this I'm just ready forthis game to come out, Like that's
the whole thing that I got leftwith when I got down Watch, and
I was like, man, canit be February twenty ninth already? I
want to be playing this game.Uh. The demo basically goes to the

(59:30):
whole kneebehind incident. So I guessit's cool that you get we get to
finally see that in full three D. I don't know about some of the
other gameplay stuff they added in there, but you know, I'll let everybody
experience that when we get to it. But yeah, they they made that
a little bit more lengthy than youknow, the original is or whatever,

(59:52):
So that's cool. I'm excited toget the June in part that's gonna come
a little bit later, to finallyexperience like what that open world stuff is
going to be like, because Ido worry about, like, is this
gonna be like our first open worldgame and here's all the stuff that's locally
in open world games, and willthis actually be enjoyable? I hope,

(01:00:15):
I hope it still is. Itlooks like it is with all the stuff
that they've added. So yeah,I'm just ready for it to be February
twenty ninth. Already. I keepgoing back and forth of whether or not
I want to like ask off workfor a couple of days just to like
get totally consumed by this game.Uh so yeah, And I bought like

(01:00:39):
three of the books that are there, like that are for in between Avage
Children, and then one that's likeafter Avage Children, and then that tails
one that's like the I guess thestory of Tifa and airis. So I'm
ready to get all into this andfor that game to come. Uh,

(01:01:00):
so then you can we can experiencethis game and see what it's actually all
in there. The teases that theyleft us with with that trailer is incredible,
so we'll see definitely. Uh andI guess if you want there are
a bunch of sites that got todo like previews from the LA event,

(01:01:20):
so if you wanted more, there'sdefinitely that stuff there too. So anything
you want to say about I guesstechn aid or no, I just played
like one match, but not Igotta buckle that. I mean, that
won't take as long as Infinite Dragonhopefully. So you know, well,
so you got you got Grand Bluefinally as well. Right, Yeah,
that's wait, that's further down thedown the path though, kick eight and

(01:01:45):
then I got to do Persona three. Grand Blue is kind of my fun
game, or you know, thegame that don't have to write review on.
So oh okay, yeah, Idefinitely understand that. Yeah, yeah,
what'll be interesting once you get toPersona three? What you think as
somebody that's I'm a bunch of times. Yeah, I can won't take that
long, so I can kind offlow to that kind of quickly and then

(01:02:06):
yep three times. Oh right,so let's I guess move back into some
new stuff and one of the biggestwell, it's not really big. It's
like more of these rumors about whenNintendo is going to finally announce the switch
to. Nintendo did have like theirfinancial report meeting talk they kind of alluded

(01:02:31):
to the fact that they're always workingon something, but they're not ready to
announce anything just yet or what iteven is. They did announce that the
switch is now the highest selling consoleall time in Japan, and it's like
fifteen million units away from being thehighest selling console ever. Let's see if

(01:02:52):
it gets there by the time weget to whenever the switch To comes out.
But supposedly the rumor is that it'sgoing to be March, sometime in
March te twenty four. That's whythere's also a rumor that Nintendo's not really
going to have a Nintendo Direct It'sgoing to be a partner showcase in February
at some point, letting people beable to sit there and wonder about what's

(01:03:15):
going on with the Nintendo switch To. Because really the three Mario games that
they have coming out with Donkey Kongmar versus Donkey Kong coming out next week,
and then Luis's Mansion two and PrincessShowtime are kind of like the last
big things that they got. Iknow, they got Metro Prime four and

(01:03:35):
the other Metroid remasters or whatever.Yeah, like well Metro Prime four where
they're working on it, but Ifeel like they're just kind of pushing that
along and just being like, Okay, this is going to be a Switch
to launch game and let's just getthis over with, or it's gonna be
the same thing, like, oh, it'll come out also for Switch one,

(01:03:55):
you know who knows. So yeah, it's it's cool, it's getting
that time. It's time for thehype. It's time for them to finally
announce it. Supposed to the Rumbersays that retail stores are getting ready for
pre orders, devs are getting readyto show stuff for it. So yeah,
maybe in March we will get thebig announcement, and this gives them

(01:04:17):
a lot of time between then tothe Fall or whenever it is they're going
to release this next Switch to seewhat we're going to do there for sure.
So moving on from that, alot of the other news really aside
from this Capcom one that we're goingto talk about, is it pales in

(01:04:39):
comparison to the thing we spent thirtysomething minutes talking about, because that was
it felt like it took up allthe oxygen this week. But Capcom interestingly
put out a survey. We've seenSega Natlas do this before, We've seen
other companies do this, so nothingis concrete as to oh, they're definitely
making some of the these games.But Capcom put out a survey basically asking

(01:05:02):
people which one of our games wouldyou like to see get a sequel or
new game? And then also whichone of our games would you like to
see get like a remake? Andsome of the stuff that they put in
for a remake, right the Fireone through three, that would be awesome,
Ace Attorney one through three, MegaMan one through three, Gargirls Quests,

(01:05:25):
Final Fight, Ausha one through three, and then add all those into
the ones where you just get asequel. They included Darkstalkers, Okamie.
Some of these are kind of weknow they're doing another Resident Evil, we
know they're going to do another StreetFighter at some point, whatever, Mega
Man, Dino christ is dead rising, Are there any of these that you're

(01:05:48):
sitting there going. Definitely, Iwant to see them make another one of
this. I'd go to Rival Schools. I really like that franchise, like
the world that it has, andeven though all the American versions are all
sucked up, like, I stillwant to see more of that. Yeah,
and only moves a collection, wouldyou? Kind of cool? Like

(01:06:08):
you don't need to make more ofthem, but why not just just remove
the tank controls? May no,I just have him say screw it and
just have them in there, like, you know, this is how games
used to be. Goddamn it,you know, deal with it, right,
I'd love a new E comedy,like a big budget O comedy.
Yeah, would be awesome. That'sgoing to happen. I don't I wouldn't

(01:06:29):
mind any more Dead Rising, LikeI'm seemingly the only person who like Dead
Rising four. That's because they takeall the weird shit out of it.
Finally, So yeah, but yeah, I'd say Rival Schools and possibly like
an HD port or a remake ofMarvelous Capcom two. That'd be cool.
I wonder how much Red Tape theyhave to deal with Disney on that,

(01:06:50):
but right, we'll see. Yeah, some of these some of these being
in here is like, why dowe need to put another resident? We
already were working on a million residuelook games. Yeah, Monster Hunter.
It's like, yeah, they're nevergonna make another Monster Hunter. They already
announced it. They announced Monster HunterWild that the game was one I'd like

(01:07:13):
to see, Like, it'd becool if they made another Lost playing it
it's been a while. Yeah,but the reason they haven't is because the
last one. Yeah, no,definitely, I get to people have like
the two nostalgia ones, I meanDark Talkers. I guess we'll be fine,
although I prefer Rival Schools. Butlike people have such nostalgia Boner for

(01:07:34):
Dino Crisis, and it's like,yeah, that game was not good at
all, like they were. Therewere reports that supposedly before Exo Primo came
out, they were thinking about it. But it's like, yeah, why
not just to Donal Crisis, Likeyou know, you could even add that
multiplayer component to it, and couldhave done something exot like Regina Squad or

(01:07:58):
you know whatever. I forget,Yeah, I got. I don't know
why they didn't go ahead and doit. Yeah, it just seems like
I guess they want extra emphasis onwell what if. Yeah, but the
problem with that is like, wellit has exoprimeals kind of a dumb name,

(01:08:19):
and now that like the few peoplethat might have been entered in Donald
Crisis, you know, exo Primalor whatever, like, they're all let
down, so they're really not goingto play it. Yeah, so that's
a let's a let's a you can'twin any solution except for do what people
want in the first place, rightexactly? No, I mean we know

(01:08:42):
we're probably gonna get like another doubfor me. Breath of Fire would be
awesome to finally see like that inmodern gaming, and then what they would
do with that would be great,Like, considering so many people have their
RPG series, having Capcom have theirlike one big RPG series come back would
be amazing just to why not,you know, if we're looking at all

(01:09:02):
those super Nintendo RPGs like Bretta Fires, definitely was right up there with those.
So make another ex Capcom game,only bring it to America. Finally,
I don't know if this is Capcomor well I think it's that's Sega
and Vandon Namco. But we evergot another project crossing game, I would

(01:09:24):
be so so exciting. But allright, I'm sure anybody watching and listening,
y'all have favorite capcom titles. Youcan let us know in the comments.
Hit us up on X Yeah.Yeah, they didn't include those in
here, but that's Goods already makingthose yeah too. You know everyone knows

(01:09:47):
Monster Hunter that's a hit or misfranchise, but they're gonna keep making. Yeah.
Well, Disney has invested one pointfive billion dollars into Epic Games.
Well, if Epic Games thought theyhad problems with money, they found a
way to get Disney to invest inthem. I saw the joke that like,
oh, now that they can hireback everyone that is fired, right

(01:10:10):
right, Yeah, exactly, youfired all these people, bring them back,
and they're going to do a majorcollaboration with Fortnite. According to this
and the trailer they showed, ofcourse, they had Disney different Disney franchise
stuff on and whatever. What doyou think about this? I mean,

(01:10:30):
obviously Disney has tried and failed withmaking their own games. Yeah, they
kind of killed all their studios andeverything else, and this kind of seems
like a big Disney way to getinto gaming. Do you think this?
Uh, what do you think happensout of this. Aside from just adding
people to Disney suit to Fortnite,I could see them trying to do like

(01:10:55):
a Disney kitty thied version of Fortnite, like kind of its own separate thing.
Yeah, we only can play withDisney characters, though, Like I
can see maybe that I could seethem trying to bring like depending if they
can get Square on board, puttinglike Sora or you know, the key
Blade into Fortniteuh yeah, I'm notsure what else, like, because you

(01:11:19):
know the problem is Epic like theywould have a better shot if they actually
want to make games, They hada better shot of like putting the money
with Capcom or Square or EA oranyone. Like. Epic doesn't make games,
they just make Fortnite. So yeah, this seems like maybe we they're
gonna have like you said, they'regonna add another mode to Fortnite, right,

(01:11:42):
like we have with Lego and andthe Fortnite Festival and all that.
Yeah, that's like a Disney Hey, if you want to play in the
Disney playground of Fortnite, here yougo like or like here's the here's like
the Fortnite version of Disneyland or something. Like that, Yeah, something like
that. I mean, they alreadyhave Disney Dreamline Valley, so they can't
really use something like that inside Fortniteor you're kind of cannibalizing that. So

(01:12:08):
I mean outside of outside of makingdifferent games with certain Disney characters inside of
for that's the thing that I canthink of maybe is that now we could
get Disney games with Disney characters insideof Fortnite, kind of like almost doing
like a Rowblock style, Like we'regoing to introduce different Disney games inside Fortnite

(01:12:31):
and how you could play those.This is all the impetus for them to
find, like Disney Infinity four pointzero bringing that back finally. I mean,
I guess she could it worked onPC without having the actual physical characters,
So right, I think you stillthe biggest thummer is in a four

(01:12:51):
point oh, Like it didn't comeout obviously, but they're finally gonna have
a story mode that like mixed andmatch Disney characters. Yes, that's what
everybody wanted from the beginning. LikeI didn't I never understand. I mean
I get it they wanted to sellpiece by piece everything, but like that
was the whole point of that waswe wanted to have I could play with

(01:13:14):
with Captain America and Darth Vader andin certain Disney character here and like all
of them be together. That wasthe whole point. And and like they
never got that until, like yousaid, till the end when they're in
desperation mode and they're like, Okay, we're going to finally unlock everything.
Well by that point, nobody cares, right, you know, like they
could have really killed Skylanders if theydid that from the beginning, but they

(01:13:39):
chose to to lock everything away,and that Lego Dimension game did and that
wasn't a huge success, but it'slike that, you know, at least.
Yeah, But I think the LegoDimensions problem was it came out when
people were already getting tired, right, Yeah. Yeah, Like had it
been out there at the beginning withSkylanders and and like around the same time

(01:14:00):
Disney Infinity came out, I thinkit could have really destroyed Disney Infinity,
but they waited until after everything,And I think I think, Yeah,
Dimensions came out like around the sametime as Infinity three point zero three point,
like it was a little late gettinginto those you know. Yeah,
I remember we talked about it andI think that was the thing that we

(01:14:21):
came up with. It's like,why did y'all wait till now when everybody
is like dying for these things toget out of stores, and and Toys
r Ust no longer wants to God, I remember walking in Toys r Uss
and you would walk in and thewhole front of the store was Skylanders,

(01:14:41):
Disney Infinity and and the Lego Dimensionsthing right there, and they Wow,
the amount of store space that theytook up with those things is crazy.
Hold up, old man, youjust said going into Toys r Uss in
the first place. Yeah, butit was still kind of it was dying,
but it wasn't totally dead at thatpoint. But yeah, yeah,

(01:15:04):
moving uh from this, that's stilla lot that we have to kind of
see what happens with the Disney thing. But I guess good for Epic,
y'all found somebody to invest more moneyinto you and keep things Afloat Fortnite once

(01:15:24):
again, we're here talking about remakesfor Final Fantasy. Last week we talked
about the what if there was aFun Fantasy six remake? This week,
y'll case comments on what if therewas a Fun Fantasy eight remake and what
he would change about the game,and he said the biggest thing would be
the game's combat system, specifically theJunction system. The thing about that system

(01:15:48):
was the enemies leveled up in linewith what the player's level was, which
off A seven Rebirth also has thedynamic difficulty that they're going to implement with
that game. But they said thatit was too complicated, which is true
that I never kind of got theJuxtas system. There's a lot of people
that were turned off by it,and that's one of the big reasons why

(01:16:09):
they don't play fo Off FENNC eight. So it'd be interesting to see how
he says that they would break itmore approachable and be better balanced. But
I mean, do you think that'sthe biggest issue with that game of it
was pretty that era of Square gameslike got really obtuse. You know,

(01:16:30):
some haven't kept it kind of groundedsomewhat like but like Ate and like Vagrant
Story, Like the systems for thosegames are just like insane even by like
by then, by those standards,they were insane by today's standards. Forget
about it. Like unless you werelike following a game fact, you will
not figure the shit out at all. Yeah. So, yeah, they

(01:16:50):
had to rebalance that or probably justdo away with it and just go okay,
you always got fire magic or youknow whatever. Yeah right, I
don't know, there's not a tonof like there's not the great media groundswell
a final phantay seven had. Yeah, definitely not even nine, which again

(01:17:10):
is very bigly runnered into a intohappening, Like eight is kind of like
that that bastard step child that everybodythat all people will claim to love.
But I remember playing eight, likewhen they put out the HT version or
the port and like I'm not tolike the third disc or what they would

(01:17:30):
call it, you know, andit's like I still have know what's going
on in the story. That's aproblem. Yeah, that is, it's
a problem. Uh So, movingon from possible of remakes to uh in
an acquisition, uh katakaua corporation whichthey're the folks that own from Software or

(01:17:53):
have the largest investment in from Softwarenow have acquired the developer Acquire, which
are are probably most well known forbeing the folks that are behind developing an
Octabat traveler. Yeah, so Iwonder if that means that they can't work
on autobat Traveler three or not orSprayings would have to figure out some kind

(01:18:15):
of pay structure for that game goingforward. I don't know, but they're
going. You know, it's positiblefor both ends, So yeah, that's
good for them. Supposedly, Katakawawants to straighten them ability to create IP
in games with this. Saw itTencent trying to make a mobile version of
Elden Ring. Yeah, that's weird. It also seems to kind of counter

(01:18:40):
to what they wanted to do withelden Ring. Yep. I don't know,
Like I get it, everybody wantsa piece of that vibe, but
like, just focus on the DLC. Let's put it there. Still hasn't
even been announced, so no,it's been announced. They just haven't announced
their release date, right, Yeah, it sucks, like we'll see it's

(01:19:02):
hopefully it's one of those things whereit has nothing to do with Eldon Ring.
Mostly, it's just kind of livesin its own world and people can
just ignore it if they want.That's always the better thing. Yeah,
there's some folks, we don't knowhow many laid off at Visual Concepts Austen.
That always sucks. Supposedly, twoK announced that they're doing some kind

(01:19:25):
of restructuring program. They don't knowwhat that is at this moment, but
maybe more layoffs are coming for them. They didn't do that well in their
earning support apparently as well, basedon what they want. Yeah, and
when investors want, I guess,so we'll see again. These things always
suck, and I guess that wasthe one positive, you know, outside

(01:19:49):
of the whole Toyster Bob office closing, which that sucks to and they laid
off eighty six people, which thatalso is terrible. Well, I don't
know if that's part of that oneynine hundred or if that's separate. I
didn't never done it, Yeah,but it's weird that they would announce that
right now when the FDC is goingafter them for that. Yeah, even

(01:20:14):
though the FDC has like no claimto that at all, because Bobby Kotik
was quoted as saying that pretty muchif this thing doesn't go through, there's
going to be people losing jobs.That should be kind of enough to be
like, yeah, this was definitelygoing to happen, whether this acquisition happened
or not. So I don't evenknow. It's like them just try and
grasp its straws again to try tosee if they constall this and hopefully the

(01:20:35):
judge just throws it out and wecan move on and finally figure this out.
Because I feel like there might besomething in that announcement next week that
they're not going to go all inon what they're going to do because they
still have this FDC thing looming.Yeah, so we'll see, but let's
end things on a nice note.Always cool to see more gaming media happening.

(01:21:00):
And of course the nobody knew aboutthe Knuckles TV Show. There's a
new trailer that came out which waspretty really directed. Yeah, it's coming
officially. It gets a release daynow, The Knuckles TV Show April twenty
six in the US and Canada onParamount Plus. It's gonna be six episodes
and it'll come out the next dayon other territories and in Japan even later.

(01:21:24):
Yeah. I'm excited for this.Yeah, yeah, look good.
And I think that you know youdidn't see uh, I mean Sonic,
isn't it like briefly but didn't seeuh, you know, Kerry's not gonna
mean it or James whatever his name, Yeah, James Morrison Aster. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, it looked good. Uh yeah, and then Jim

(01:21:45):
Carrey did officially announce he's going tobe coming back for Sonic three. I
thought that was a question, likeyou know, he gets said when they
first announced that, the way thatthey did Sonic two, it kind of
felt like maybe they were going sunsat him. Yeah, but you know,
he signed he signed a three mostthree movie deal. So yeah,

(01:22:06):
that's supposes still coming out December,so we'll see. Yeah, they've been
filming it for a while. Youknow, I think that was one of
the first big movies, like whenthe Pandemic kindly ended, they're like,
all right, sign a three hitgoing, it's good to go on it.
But Stoven announced Shadow's Voice, whichyou imagine that they announced. Yeah,

(01:22:31):
but yeah, I think that's uhpretty much here for this week.
The obviously we talked about games thatare out right now, and you can
go get Hell Diverspy right now.Got a lot of folks that are excited
and picking it up and playing.That is a game that is you can
play a solo but it really ismore about playing co op. Yeah.

(01:22:54):
So and it's supposed to be actuallyreally hard as well, so that's why
you want to play up right,So, yeah, just just be aware
of that, even though it's fortydollars, make sure you do your research
before you just go get this thing. It is not one of those live
service scheds you can play so andthen decided to when to bring your friends.
It kind of really isn't that.That Legendary Tales game also out right

(01:23:16):
now that was at that state ofplay. The VR skeleton killing looking thing
that's out there, The Inquisitor looksinteresting. That's out on PC, PS
five and Xbox right now as well. The one of the more interesting ones

(01:23:38):
that don't not game, Banisher's Ghostof New Eden comes out next week.
I'm interested to kind of see whatpeople's perception is to that, because I've
liked all the stuff I've seen fromthat that. That CDI game Are Set,
Jewels or Paramore comes out next weekas well. Ultros the very flashy,

(01:24:00):
cool looking Metroit Vania. It's onthe thirteenth. The tomb Raider one
the Three Masters also out as well. Yeah, that that should be interesting.
That Health Skate game is out nextweek as well. It's early access.

(01:24:20):
That's that like he's going He's literallygoing to hell and you're a Skater
as well, game that looked reallyawesome. I'm excited for that. Played
Up is going to be on gamePass that's out next week too, And
then of course the two big gamesthat are out by the time we do
the show next week is Marvelous DonkeyKong, the remake on Switch and the

(01:24:42):
Skull and Bones also will be officiallyout on the six got. I would
probably vet mar versus Donkey Kong bya mile, so yeah, pretty sure.
But all right until next week,everybody, thank you for watching,
listening, whichever one you did ondemand or even if you did live.

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