Full Court Press | Can't-Miss College Hoops Value Plays for Tonight's Betting Card! | 11/13/25

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00:00 Purdue/Alabama
14:03 Central Mich/S Alabama
19:50 Cornell-Lafayette (Trigg Parlay Leg)
24:58 Pitt-WVU
32:24 Green Bay-St. Thomas
37:24 FIU-LSU (Veno Parlay Leg)
38:50 Coaching Changes
39:49 Charleston Southern-Alabama A&M
43:50 San Jose State/Michigan State
52:00 Southern Miss/Grambling
56:30 Cal/Kansas State
58:00 BP Parlay Leg (GB-St. Thomas)
59:00 Parlay Recap

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, welcome in everybody. It's time for full court press.
And I double checked today is Thursday. I think I
said yesterday was Thursday. But you know, when you drive
around with Brian Power all week into like three different cities,
it takes a few days to figure out what day
it is. But we've got our bearings. It is, in
fact Thursday, and we're gonna get right into a BP.
I'm gonna bring you in first big big game. Not

(00:24):
a big slate in college hoop tonight, no, but big
big game down in Tuscaloosa, kick us off Perdue Alabama,
top ten matchup.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, when I'm driving around with myself, I often have
a hard time keeping track of what day it is.
Let's talk about purdueing Alabama.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Though.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Look, don't need to dig too deep to understand that
this is obviously the headline game on tonight's slate. Guys
number two vers Number eight, seven pm Eastern on esp
and two. Purdue drops from number one to number two
in the rankings. We talked about this yesterday. They only
beat Oakland last time out by ten. That was kind
of an alarm. I guess sew some arm bells for

(01:00):
the pollsters and lo and behold that loss or that win.
Pardon me, you know, I think for some it felt
like a loss, but that win now looks even worse
than it did at the time. Now, right, guys, because
a game we talked about yesterday, Oakland and Houston. What
does Houston do to Oakland last night? Well they won
by thirty three points and yes, another first half cash

(01:21):
for Calvin Sampson. Truth be told, Trick, I actually think
relative to where these guys, these two teams Perdue in
Alabama are ranked right now in the top twenty five,
versus where they are in my power rankings, I'll call
them both slightly overrated. As a matter of fact. I
don't know if you guys can chime in on that
if you're so, if you want to, But I'm a

(01:42):
little concerned with the Purdue defense it you know, you look,
you crack open the box score in that Oakland game,
Purdue allows one point one points per possession fifty two
on two point attempts. That's not good when you're getting
ready to face a team like Alabama who just put
up one oh two against Saint John's and they did
that Robin Trigg only shooting eleven of thirty five from three.

(02:06):
What i'llmagine how it points the Crimson Tide would have
put up if they were shooting well from distance. Now,
that's kind of always been a fit. They always get
theirs even when they're not shooting from three, even though
it's a home game against the number two team in
the country. I'll say that, is there a potential for
a little bit of a letdown for the Crimson Tide here?
I mean that that's not any easy game they just

(02:28):
had against Saint John's. I mean it was an impressive performance.
But going Saint John's to Purdue, this is a very
tough early scheduling spot. We've seen the market move in
Alabama's direction. I think the key is gonna be whether
or not Purdue can slow the pace down right that
it's very hard to do on the road again, especially
against team like Alabama. But at one seventy five and

(02:51):
a half, is this total getting a little bit too high?
I think it might be.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Before you get before you I bring you in to
break this one down.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I want to point out I do think we see
the season debut of Trey Kaufman ren here for Purdue.
That is, he had a great game against Alabama last year,
in a game that Purdue kind of dominated them, if
I remember correctly, I ended up winning by.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Like ten or so.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
That was so the big one of the biggest early
season tilts last year, Rob was at Bama at Purdue.
Purdue kind of dominated that game. I think Trey Coff
and Wren went for like twenty five. So that's obviously
a big deal. And as far as I'm hearing it
looks like he's going to play tonight, does that entice
you to punch back at the market ont all?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
What is the question?

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well, it's huge, It's definitely huge, And then the question
you ask yourself is you know? And my answer to
this would probably be the former rather than the latter.
But the question would be does he come in and
fit right in or does it take make him a
game or two to fit right back in. Trey Kaufman,

(04:03):
RN's a guy who's been there, done that, played this team.
As you mentioned, Adam twenty six points last week last
year against them when they played in Mackie. So I
would think he does fit right in with them, and
they need them, let's face it, Without him, I don't
think they're beating Alabama. But with him, it's a different story. Maybe, Brian,
I'm sure you and Natos could have a little discussion

(04:25):
on whether or not pre excuse me, whether or not
Alabama is underrated. Direct quotes from Natos which would tell
you that he's ready for this game. Natos says people
are not holding his club in the correct level of
his steam. Felt like when they opened the season ranked fifteenth,

(04:45):
slapping the face, went and beat Saint John's still thinks
they're underrated. On the other side of that coin is Purdue,
who feels like against Oakland they didn't exert themselves defensively. Again,
you get it to here's Fletcher Lawyer quick and then
I'll get into a little diet tribe here. But Fletcher
Lawyer the end of the quote, it starts with the
defensive end.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
We have to be better on defense. You know, credit
to Oakland, they played a great game. Blah blah blah
blah blah blah. And it leads me back to what
I said yesterday about Shaka Smart and his comments on
we have to be better defensively. You know, everybody says this,
does it always apply?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Last night? Of course, my bank will will show you
that it did apply because I went against the quote
and U ALR scored forty nine points in that game.
But I think the biggest point here, guys is for
me number one, the change of venue. Listen, the back
courts are what they are. It's a stalemate bold. It
really boils down to the front court. And as you mentioned, Brian,

(05:43):
pace of game last year, it was slowed down a
little bit and they totaled one sixty five. Is one
sixty five a slow game? Eighty seven seventy eight? Probably not?
So can they get ten more here in Tuscaloosa. Probably
So they're gonna force it. You don't be Alabama by

(06:05):
not scoring what Purdues scored last year eighty five plus.
You're just not gonna win a game unless you get
to eighty five against them. They're gonna put up enough shots,
They're gonna score enough points, etcetera, etcetera. I do think
it boils down somewhat to the front court, and I
think it boils down to three point shooting. Alabama's just
got more weapons than Purdue does from the three point.
When Fletcher Lawyer is off to a great start and

(06:29):
Alabama's the only team, well, if Trey Kaufman Wren plays,
I guess they won't have a freshman on the floor
to start the game, right, Kaufman Wren would probably take
that spot. So I think in summary here that the
move toward Alabama, I feel it's probably correct. And I'm
gonna side with Brian on something that you said where

(06:50):
Purdue's defensive numbers might look great so far, but I
don't know how great they are, to tell you the truth,
and this is gonna be a test like they haven't
faced tall season long. Of course, they saw them last year.
They saw Mark Sears on this team last year a
little bit different, right, But Alabama is Alabama, and I
trust in Natos's should I call it anger for where

(07:14):
they're placed right now or how they've looked at nationally?
So I think Alabama probably wins. And you know, seventy
one and a half is a lot better than one
seventy four and a half or one seventy five if
you're playing over I think probably i'd look toward Bama.
And if kaufman Ren plays, maybe that's the reason for

(07:34):
the total movement up guys, because he does provide offensive
point production.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'll still have to look.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
At that but I think I'm going to side with
Alabama here minus three and a half.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I don't have much else to add here, so
I'll just say a couple things in closing one. Coffin
Ren had a really again I said it already, but
he had a really good offensive game against this team
last year, so you know, definitely think that there might
be some correlation to him likely playing and the the
over moving up. Not surprised at all. It looks like

(08:06):
there's some buyback on Purdue. Three and a half continues
to get hit, But that doesn't surprise me at all
any any you know that's that's just like probably board
cleaners taking like key numbers right there. I don't think
you can really like, you know, take anything from that.
This is a huge game there. There's gonna be conviction
on both sides of this matchup. So again, it's really

(08:27):
more like, you know, trying to get the best number
with the side that you like. For me, yeah, coming
off the Saint John's game is not the best spot
for Alabama, but you're also you've got Purdue having to
go to Tuscaloosa. We saw Bama go into West Lapaette
last year and lose an early season game, so it's
like a likely pass for me. Alabama still has really,

(08:49):
really good guards that can score, so I don't really
know if I want to step in front of them.
So I will step to the side if you will
avoid this one and go to a different game.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Ago, I had both the.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I was just gonna. I was gonna tell Robb I've
actually had a conversation with Nat Oats before he even Yeah,
he didn't want to have it. This was at the
MAC semi finals ten ish years ago. Well, he was
still from Buffalo yet I yelled out. I yelled out,
coach Olts, don't worry about number forty five on Saturday
for Kent State, and this lady next to me started

(09:24):
laughing very hard. I was like, oh, I still got it, huh.
Of course Buffalo went to the NCAA tournament that year.
The next weekend, I saw that same lady on television.
It was NATO's wife. She really had She was laughing
up for the two hours my comedy routine worked on
missus Oates. I'll say that, but Nate had a little
smirk on his face too, and I told him not

(09:45):
to worry about number forty five on Kent State. But yeah,
so Nate and I have chatted. It was a one
way conversation, but a conversation nonetheless, you.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Know the nature of Brian power conversation, one way conversation.
Real quick, Adam, I'm going to point out and you know,
further thought on that game and how to go about it.
And we just saw the number move again, at least
the one I'm looking at, which is the first half number.

(10:16):
I feel like if you want to play Alabama in
this game, you probably want to play first half minus
one and a half.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
First half.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I'd expect Alabama to come out at home in this environment,
to come out pretty quick here. Not that Purdue is
not veteran enough with their guards to withstand this venue,
but I think they could get to them early and
then Purdue makes adjustments in second half rallies. Alabama's very
good at giving up leads and very good at giving

(10:43):
up points. So for me, for those who are interested
in this game, I think my way to go would
be here here would be Alabama minus one and a half,
which just we saw the two's cleared out just now
down to one and a half.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Because it's early in the year, because do we you know,
they just beat Saint John's, obviously, do we Is that
less of a factor to you guys, that you're coming
off one big game and have another rather than if this,
you know, if it was the second of back to
back big games, and obviously it would be conference games
if once we get to January and February. But is

(11:16):
that I mean, does the fact they're coming off such
an impressive performance against Saint John's at a you know
what was basically a road game, does that bother you
guys on the Alabama side.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Not not really, because they're coming home. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I'll just make a quick point about that. Brian Gledger
brought it up because I consider Rick Patino Saint John's
team a very good defensive team. Their style, the way
they get after it, and that's the kind of team
that Alabama that likes to run. Saint John's likes to
run back, and Saint John's likes to get up on
you man to man. And they scored one hundred and
three on that team. Patino's quotes after that game were

(11:54):
very very they were directed at his defense. Let's put it, well,
he didn't like what he saw. But is that more
product of this Alabama offense. Filon looked great in that game.
He's looked great in the first two, and he had
a big game here last year against this team in
uh in Mackie. So I think that it depends how

(12:16):
you judge that one oh three performance against Saint John's.
I would say that Alabama just shredded a really really
good defense for one hundred and three and now they're
gonna come home and they did it on the road.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
All right, let's uh okay, someone I gotta I gotta
call this out. Someone said, oh, the show went over yesterday.
Mississippi Valley State covered, Binghamton covered. I think I gave
out a three percenter on cal Poly that covered.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Certainly didn't go over. We certainly did not hit the parlay.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
But guess what we are even without a parlay win
on the week, we're still plus like twelve point three
three units. I have to I have it written down here,
and and the point is, like, you know, just this
this show is like we're we're just giving out thoughts.
It's really on you to make the decision if you
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(13:07):
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(13:56):
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Speaker 3 (13:59):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Let's uh so, we got a whole bunch of people
asking about this, which I firally gempted to be the case,
Andrew Meek. I didn't mean to throw a paragraph over
your face right there, Brian, as you were delivering that
fantastic promo, but I did on accident. Andrew Meek says, hey, guys,
can you give me some info on the early game?
And I did a little research as to why we

(14:21):
had one standalone game on a neutral site. It didn't
feel like it was like part of anything. Because I'm like, oh, well,
what other games are in Saint Petersburg, Florida today? And
I found that the showdown in Saint Pete is a
three day event where they're playing one standalone game at
eleven am each day. I love when these mts get

(14:43):
creative like that. So shout out to whoever put this
together and said, you know what, you know, we maybe
we don't have the biggest names here, but instead of
playing this at seven o'clock and no one's gonna watch,
we're gonna put this on YouTube. So it's probably like
a similar to the Field of sixty eight stream and
we're gonna give you three standalone eleven am starts over

(15:03):
the next three days. So the first one rob Central
Michigan Southern Alabama. Very interesting stylistic match up here. So
I'll let you kick it off and then you know,
we'll go around the horn and see if we have
any thoughts, eleven Am Tip in Saint Petersburg, Florida.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, let's go ahead. What I'm going to focus in
on here, Adam. We've talked about many of them so
far the first seven eight days of the show, but
there's a couple that we haven't hit on, and hopefully
we'll get to hit on the second one that I
want to focus on here today. But it's the coaching
change and it pertains the Central Michigan. They go to
the Division two route and they pick up Farris State

(15:44):
head coach Andy Bronkima. Hopefully I'm saying it right, Coach.
If I'm wrong, I didn't have time to go to
YouTube and get the correct pronunciation of your name, but
hopefully I'm right. Anyway, bottom line is he brought some
Farris State players with him. They were not good at
ball protection last year. If you go back, I can
look at Fairris State numbers and South Alabama, one of
their best assets has taken the ball away from you.

(16:06):
So I think you have a head coach here. We've
talked a lot about cohesion. We've talked a lot about
putting new rosters together. Do they come out of the
gate quickly? Do they come out of the gate evaluation wise,
experimentation wise, trying to find rotations, etc. I play Central
Michigan in that category, trying to figure it out. South
Alabama I think can't. It's a neutral. Of course, you

(16:27):
don't get a home floor here, but neutral probably favors
South Alabama due to location, not that South Alabama's going
to travel in caravans to the game. Don't misquote me there,
but I will say that I think that that particular matchup. Guys,
when you can pick teams up at half court, three,
quarter court, or you can harass them enough to force turnovers,

(16:49):
I like that side. I agree with the line movement here.
Has it gotten out of control? Four to six? You
see some six and a halfs now shop it as
well as you can. But for me, I would probably
like the South Alabama side. I think Central Michigan has
some work to do here. Yet there's still a process
to putting this roster together in a way where they're,

(17:10):
you know, as competitive as they want to be.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Brian Power, I got to point something out and then
I'll kick this to you. We just went and saw
Toledo play over the weekend, and Toledo opened the season
with South Alabama, and the way Toledo plays offensively is
very similar to the way Central Michigan plays offensively. It's
they have a lot of the same sort of principles.

(17:35):
Go back to that opening night game, Toledo really struggled
with that South Alabama zone to start off that game,
and that score, correct me if I'm wrong, was a
little deceiving because it was like Toledo just went bombs
away late to come back from I think was it
like double digits down, So that would be my concern,
and it has me agreeing, has me agreeing with Rob

(17:55):
here that the favorite is.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Probably the right side. It got that quickly and at six.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I don't don't know if I can can can do
it myself, but I certainly wouldn't put you off of
a South Alabama bet in this spot.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, I feel this has been such a theme in
the early going.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I hate to keep de laboring these same points, but
you know, you break down a game, you like a side,
you go to the odscreen and say, my god, I'm
not alone in liking this side, And that's what's happened here,
you know, Just to kind of piggyback up what you
just said, trig what South Alabama does defensively with the zoe,
they want you to take a lot of threes, and

(18:31):
so this game, I mean, I don't want to say
it's a one factor handicap. There's no such thing really,
but it's gonna boil down the whether or not you
think Central Michigan is going to be able to be
effective from downtown in unfamiliar environments. Saint Petersburg, eleven AM
Eastern on a Thursday, it doesn't sound like the biggest

(18:54):
recipe to have a hot afternoon shooting from three. So yeah,
I agree with the market here, And you were correct
Adam about that South Alabama's Toledo game. That was a
game where South Alabama led by thirteen at the half.
They wound up winning by two because yeah, Toledo made
it a little bit interesting late with some threes. So yeah,

(19:16):
I think Central Michigan, you know, unless if they get
unexpectedly hot from three, they probably go down in Central Michigan.
I will say, I love you. You were very kind
to me on the football field last night.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I always have a no sweat winner like that against
Buffalo as they took care of business. But I think
it's gonna be a little bit tougher for the basketball
team this morning here in about forty minutes. I would
lean the South Alabama side for sure.

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(20:04):
I'm doing my best, But I do have a couple
of things to say about Garth's play. So he says
he's leaning a couple of Cornell.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Wow, it's a mouthful.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
He's leaning Cornell to cover the four and a half,
and I would lean to you being correct, Garth. I
think Lafayette is going to be bad this year, like
very bad. They would be the worst team in the
Patriot League this year if it wasn't for Army, who
I think is maybe one of the worst teams in
the country. Justin Vanderbann on this team last year, a

(20:37):
seven footer like you just don't get that in the
Patriot League very often. I feel like he was sort
of a band aid like that. Lafayette wasn't very good
last year either. You go back a couple of years,
it was like two years ago, three years ago, and
they kind of made their surprise run to the Patriot
League Final, and I think their coach got fired for
harassing someone in the front office, A story for another day.

(21:01):
But this team, I feel like the last couple of
years has really relied on Vanderband to like make them
even like a little bit Okay. Now he's graduated, he's gone.
You take a seven footer that was productive off of
a Patriot League team and you don't replace him with
like anyone of note that team tends to fall very very.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Quickly in the power rankings.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Now Cornell is not the in my opinion, they're not
going to be quite the Brian Earle Coronell.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
He's now at William and Mary.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I feel like they're just not quite as polished as
they were when he was the head coach. But his assistant,
longtime assistant, is still the coach. Like this is still
a pretty good Cornell team. I'll reference that Cornell Kent
State game where they got the exact pace they wanted,
playing in the hundreds. I think that's going to be
a real problem for Lafayette. And I actually think I

(21:57):
made forget what I made this number, but it was
this one on my radar.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I haven't bet it yet, but I think I.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Had Cornell maybe like an eight point favorit or seven
point favorite, something like, Oh yeah, I made them eight
and a half. So if you can still get a
four and a half out there, I think that's a
decent bet.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Go ahead by yeah, three point shooting. We talked about
it each of the previous two breakdowns. Let's bring it
up again. It's always such an important part of college
basketball handicapping. In the year twenty twenty five, Cornell per
Ken Palm is they're jacking it up. They have the
third highest percentage this year of threes relative to total

(22:35):
field goal attempts, so they're they're taking a very When
you look at their number of field their total number
of field goal attempts the Big Red, almost fifty eight
percent of their field goal attempts rob are coming from
behind the arc.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
That is a I number.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Again, third highest percentage in the country, so they're living
and dying by the three. It is a road game, Trigg.
I don't know. That always does scare me, you know,
when you're relying.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
On NAT and you're going We've boys been there. I've
been there a couple of times. These Patriot League schools
tend to get like big, big atmospheres for like the
conference tournament type games. I'm not I don't think you're
gonna have a huge atmosphere in this one. And actually,
last time I was there, I was sitting courtside for

(23:20):
a conference tournament game and this this.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Guy kept whipping me with his towel. The guy sitting
next to me was like so fired up. He had
a lap jersey.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It was like try in his like late twenties, and
and they were playing Lehigh, who's their rival, and and
for some reason he felt like it was cool to
just like the snapping the towel he kept hitting me.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I had to I had to move. It was just
it was it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
And I think Lehigh ended up running them out of
them out of their own gym in that so the towel,
the towel got put away pretty quickly because Lehigh ran
them out. But yeah, I don't think you're gonna have
that kind of cowl. Guy might be there, but I
don't know if anyone else is going to be there.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
So your favorite, your favorite whipping story, Rob tell us
the time you've been with.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
You know, Okay, I gotta pay all right?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh god, Yeah, that's a rivalry like Lafiete Lehigh is
a pretty big rivalry. I don't think they're gonna get
the same juice for Cornell and and I gotta be
honest this one. I'm thinking about throwing this on the card.
Four and a half seems good, you know what I'm
gonna I'm gonna do it right now. I'm gonna take that.
And I'm also gonna make that the parlay leg I'm

(24:32):
about four points off what the market is and four.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
And a half seems good.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
It may be five, who knows, we may we may
move it, but I'm gonna I'm gonna add this as
a client play.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
It was already on my radar.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
And I just think that there is a sizeable difference
between these two teams, and I just be I would
be really really surprised if they don't. If Lafayette has
any answer to this, like craziness that Cornell is gonna
throw at them.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna la it here.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
With Cornell Brian, I'm trying to give this out to clients,
So hop it. I'm gonna let you give you the
keys here, hop into the comments and get us a game. Actually,
you know what, I'm gonna tell you what you guys
need to address? What is going on with the Pitt
West Virginia line right now? I'm seeing it's up to
like seven. Is Pitt making the trip? Are they even

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gonna show up?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean obviously not a lot of belief there. The way, guys,
stay tuned. Two more legs of our three leg parlay
still to come. Keep those comments coming in. Of course,
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let's talk about Pitt West Virginia here. Yeah wow, they

(25:44):
are betting this one like they already know the score
your West Virginia obviously taking a ton of money up
from two and a half to six and a half.
What's funny is, before we went live, I was noting
how much the market liked the under, and I agree
with that.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Rob.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Actually maybe you know, I know that you you are
kind of our resident totals expert, so I won't talk
too much about it, and I'll leave the side to you,
because yeah, wow, this is that's a crazy move on
the side. But I know they clearly there's some skepticism
about this pit side. They have scored seventy four points
in all three games this season, but we all know,

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and we've talked about it before on this show. West
Virginia now coached by Ross Hodge. He comes over from
North Texas. He's bringing over those same principles, defense, rebounding,
slow pace. So I don't think we're going to continue
to see Pitt shoot the ball as well as they
have against their first three lesser opponents. Also, Brandon Cummings

(26:38):
did not play Monday. Is that something I.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Mean, he has to be out, he has to Yeah,
but that's still a pretty big move, right, I mean
even with his absence, I mean, whoa, that's.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Uh, it's it's great to move on the side.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, although, hey the Cavs, how about that rather our
peat squad beating the heat last night? But yeah, yeah,
this is a uh, it's it's obviously, Look, the market
loves WU. They love the under here, and I think
those two bets are correlated, Rob Veno, if you like Virginia,
you like the under.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Well, yeah, absolutely, Although Pitt, you know under Jeff capele Is.
Go check their pace numbers and they're not playing quick.
They've been efficient offensively. They're a way better three point
shooting team than they are two. And West Virginia has
defended both the three and the two real well this year.
So you got two teams that want to go a

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little bit slow. One team's more efficient offensively than the other,
that being Pitt. But the injury concerned. I mean, lines
don't go four points that quickly unless there's injury concern here.
So perhaps it's comings And obviously side and total both
moving would be the correlation here. The Ross Hodge thing

(27:55):
is it's out of the bag, right, I mean, we
knew it right off the bat. Now you know, I'm
to show another separate wager talk show on Sunday where
guys who handicapped football know all about Ross Hodge. So
it's it's out there. It's beyond just college basketball insiders
who know what's going on with WVU and the question becomes,

(28:18):
when do the totals become too low on West Virginia
where we can punch back and say, you know what,
it was difficult. I have to tell you, guys, it
was difficult with North Texas, where Ross Hodge came from.
You never really know, you know, you'd be staring at
a one twenty seven and a half. Man, Do I
really want to play over one twenty seven and.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
A half With North Texas?

Speaker 4 (28:37):
It's so difficult to get to. So that's a question
for down the road. I would think here, though, without
knowing the specifics of the injury, for the time being,
this has to be a pass. We've probably told you
as much as we can tell you about how in
theory to handicap this game. Two slow paced teams, one

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team that depends on threes for most they're better shooting threes,
and the other side defends the three really, really well.
I don't know that West Virginia's put it all together
offensively yet. And listen, it's the backyard brawl in football.
That doesn't mean it's not a heated rivalry in basketball too.
This thing is liable to take on a defensive nature

(29:18):
to it, So maybe the under is still in play here, guys,
I think as we talk it out here, maybe the
under is still in play at one thirty three and
a half.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
And keep pointing out in the chat that it's a
double revenge spot. It's a double revenge spot as well
for DUBVU, so that that might be something else.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
So I want to add one more thing here because
I was just kind of going over my notes and
I jotted down the Cummings potential injury and I said likely,
you know, And I did this when the line was four, okay,
and so I figured that was the Cummings, you know,
being out. It is now seven, and like, all I'll

(29:58):
say is West Virginia for how great they have looked
defensively to start the year and how you know, obviously
that's that's Ross Hodge.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
We just talked about that. The offense hasn't been great.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I mean, you know, they kind of they kind of like,
you know, like barely beat Campbell.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
I know, they ended up pulling away, ended up winning
by eight.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Only scored sixty nine against Lehigh, like and the other
team they played is Mount Saint Mary's, who is probably
a you know, ninth or tenth place in the MAC
type team this year. So like my whole thing is like,
even if you take a starter off this pit team, I.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Don't know that they're and I and I am not.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I don't think Pitt's any good at all, but like
are they worse than that?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Like?

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Should they really be catching a touchdown in this game?
That's like I think that move is crazy?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Now?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Am I crazy enough to like punch back at plus seven?
Knowing I probably don't have Brandon Cummings? I don't know,
maybe the better way to go. I think I'm with you, Rob.
I think the under hasn't moved as much as I
would have expected it to relative to that side move,
So I think that's the way it would lean as well.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yet, Cummings, just for those who may be unaware, he's
an eighteen and a half point per game scorer. You
referenced that Mount Saint Mary's game, Trigg there, that was
I believe, as a matter of fact, yess it was.
It was my portion of the parlay of the day
that day. The under West Virginia, all three of their
games have gone under those numbers were one thirty six
and a half, one thirty eight and a half, and

(31:25):
one forty so interestingly enough, the totals were going up
each of their games. Now it comes way now it
comes way back down. Lowest total of the year on
a West Virginia game with the line move, and it
is also the lowest total of the year for any
PIT game as well. All three PIT games so far,
I've had a total north of so market has corrected

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itself here.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, and I believe that is Colgate great Nelly Cummings
younger brother, who also I believe, transferred to PIT for
his final year of eligibility. So some great times out
here in central New York watching those Nelly Cummings Colgate teams,
which were very, very good, actually Colgates probably I think
they probably went to the tournament five six years in

(32:13):
a row.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
So neither here nor there.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
They don't play today, but a team that does play
that people seem to be asking about, and I was interested.
Brian and I started talking about this one a little
bit off air. So let's go hit this game. No Name,
Sam says, do you all think Saint Thomas covers against
Green Bay?

Speaker 3 (32:32):
He likes them.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
First half, Brian, I'll throw it to you because we
kind of already sort of started to kick this back
and forth. I know you're not a Doug Gottlieb guy,
but no, pretty big move right here from the open.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I guess that's just the theme. We're gonna say that
on every game here early season, that hey, you kind
of like the side and guess what, so does everyone
else in America and the betting world. Look, I don't
want to really pass up an opportunity to come on
the way to talk YouTube channel trash Doug gottlie By.
You know, I used to call him the Trent Dilfer
of college basketball. You really can't call him that a
new workers. Trent Dilfer's not in college football. He's been fired.

(33:07):
Green Bay has been horrible defensively under Gottlieb. Now are
they gonna be a little bit better this year? It's
hard to be worse than they were last year. The
issue here in this matchup St. Thomas, they play fast,
they don't turn the ball over. I think Saint Thomas
team total over might be How to look at this

(33:31):
game that way, You know, you don't have to concern
yourself as much with the way the spread has moved.
I just, you know, I look at this matchup trick
and I just don't see anyway, and I see Rob Noddings,
so perhaps I feel even better now. I don't see
any way that Saint Thomas doesn't get theirs at home here.
I think they put up some points.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, I was really quick. I'll just endorse that Bryan St.
Thom is such an efficient offensive team. Yeah, and sometimes
we get a little confused when we play totals over.
Oh well, they don't play fast enough, they don't do
this quick enough. There's not enough possessions. Listen, offensive efficiency
counts just as much. You can do a lot more

(34:12):
with ten less possessions than some teams. I'm looking at
the board here. Florida International, for example, can do with
more possessions under Jeremy Balod run around like a bunch
of chickens with your head cut off and never put
it in a hoop. That's something different. So yeah, Sat
tom Is just look go back to last year when
they were racking up eighty plus almost all the time.

(34:35):
So and of course that was in Summing League played
for the most part. But still I think it's a
matchup that just favors them because they don't give the
ball away in Green Bay. And I'm not going to
say any I can't say anything more than what you
guys have already said about Got Leave, so I won't.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
There's a lot of you go to this Green Bay.
I mean, I know it's only a couple games in,
but they were bad defense. You go to their Ken
Palm page Green Bay. There is eight of red in
the defense of column, a lot like it's pretty rare
you see this much, this many red boxes lit up
in the defensive column for a team.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
So I'll say, I want to say two things about
this game, and then I'm gonna go to Rob and
probably put him on the spot to see if his
parlay leg is ready, just you know, seeing where we're
at in the show, So just giving him a friendly
heads up for that. But what I'll say about I'm
going to say two things that are a little bit pro.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Gott leave here.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
So I'm going to go against the grain on this one.
I think his team is better than it was last year,
just in general. Two, I think he probably learned a
lot from last year was I think it was a
wake up call that he was a little bit over
his skis, you know, taking over a college basketball program,
and I think he becomes a better coach. Because of that,

(35:50):
I actually am a little bit higher than the market
on green Bay. So I had this number right where
it opened at ten and a half. At fourteen, I
could only take green Bay. But I don't really want
to do that, Like that's just you know. I took
green Bay the other day plus seven. I got in
in a good number against Buffalo and I was mostly

(36:11):
okay with what I saw.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
They ended up pushing that number.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I think green Bay is going to be a good
team to bet on a lot of times this year.
I think the market's quite a bit off on them.
But Saint Thomas is sort of dude to smash someone like.
They haven't had the best start to their season. I
know they probably thought they could have won that Washington
State game Army kind of like that was shocking Army.
I thought Army would probably lose that game by twenty five.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
That was somehow single digits.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
So again, I think I think take Saint Thomas a
little overrated right now, green Bay a little underrated, but.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Not the spot.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I think I'm gonna mess with that. So I'll just
lead that there and let's get rob. Do you have
you figured out what you want? To use for the
parlay or do you have a game that you want
to throw out there for us.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Well, I've got to, so I'll make a split decision
and give you one. And just for the benefit of
those watching us live, I'll tell you that the two
I'm deciding between are both team totals, one being Michigan
State today against this San Jose State defense which has
been horrible, and the other, hopefully by you bets, is

(37:20):
here with us because I think that's the way I'm
gonna go here. I'm gonna play this LSU team total
over eighty nine and a half their third game, four
ninety plus. Obviously, I just talked about Jerry Ballard and
FIU rapid rapid pace. LSU is not gonna back down
from it. How about guys, FIU is giving up fifty
percent from the three point arc not playing and LSU,

(37:40):
by the way, is top fifty three point shooting team,
so you're gonna get paced again. I've talked about open
floor enough. Usually that creates wide open threes. Guys can't
find their man. LSU likely sink some Nebraska, which you
really wouldn't consider a big time offensively three point shooting team.
Seventeen of thirty four against FIU, and Nebraska hung ninety

(38:05):
six on this team. So LSU has already proven against
a couple of teams that are, you know, defensively right
in this FIU category, that they can get to ninety plus.
So I'm going to go that way.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
I think the number I'm staring at here is eighty
nine and a half for LSU's team total. I'll take
it over and it's say, what do they call it?
In a horse race? A little almost dead heat where
photo finished where we had to go and make a
fast decision between that and Michigan State because San Jose
State going to the Breslin Center here tonight probably in

(38:39):
a little bit of trouble defensively against that team.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
I don't want to hog up all our time, but
I did Adam want to get to We've talked about
a lot of coaching changes and real quick, I don't
want to get on a soapbox, but let me just
say that if you take cumuatively what we've said here
over the eight days on this show and apply it

(39:03):
to your future college basketball handicapping. We talked about Will
Wade right, I talked about Will Wade and his obsession
with making statements every time he hits the coaching Floyd
since he got wire tapped at LSU and thrown out
and in Adam, I think you've talked excessively about NC
Greensboro not being all that great this year. You put

(39:25):
two and two together and last night you see what
NC State did to NC Greensboro. So, guys, take what
we're saying, try and apply it. That's what we do.
That's how you handicapped so great outside of the parlay itself.
Just we're trying to give you tidbits that can be
useful down the road, and I'm going to try and
get one out here for the for the extra board here, guys,

(39:48):
coaching change. We've talked about almost all of them. But
let's get into Alabama A and M real fast. I
know it's Alabama A and M, but they played Charleston
Southern time. Alabama A and M. They took Gramblings head
coach this season Dante Jackson, who is a guy who
plays the exact opposite way. There's a polar opposite style
contrast here. You take a team in A and M

(40:11):
that wanted to go fast last year and now you
turn them into one of the slowest paced teams in
the country. A lot of times you're holdovers. Guys don't
want to play that way. They're at that school for
a reason, so they're fly to the portal, or if
they get left behind, they don't get picked up in
the portal. They have to sit here and play this
molasses style of offense, and you don't exactly get the

(40:33):
best out of their talents. He did bring some guys
from Grambling with him to help create this culture, new
culture here at Alabama A and M. And they're gonna
play Charleston Southern, who loves to get up and down.
I just think that fast teams get frustrated by extremely
slow teams. The point to this handycap. When I saw

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this number early, one fifty five and a half total
market scotten to it. It's one fifty three and a half.
Now just pay attention a little bit this year to
what Alabama A and M.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Does.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Result wise, I think this game might be under I
think the market's onto something here. But again, it's just
another thing we're trying to point out here. As the
season progresses, maybe we can look at Alabama A and M.
Before everybody gets to it, and being where they are
in the swack, not everybody will get to it. So
this thing and under trend with A and M may
just go and go and go on the tracks for

(41:27):
a while before odds makers derail it.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
That's excellent stuff, Rob, And just to clarify your parlay,
leg is going to be LSU team total over.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
What was the number?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I have?

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Eighty nine and a half unless you guys can tell
me different, I'm showing a and I'm trying to use
a consensus number here, guys, eighty nine and a half.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
And we'll double check that at the end of the
show and we officially lock it in. One thing, I
will say a lot of people jumping into the chat,
which we very much appreciate. We already broke down the
Central mission in South Alabama game that goes at eleven
even with the show, even when the show is live,
you should be able to go back, especially if you're

(42:08):
on the YouTube channel and rewatch that. So people asking
for Perdue Alabama, Central, Michigan, South Alabama, we've already talked
about those. You can go you know, and utilize the
on demand feature, which this show is every Day Live
on demand, tell him where to find it, Brian.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Well, I'll even I'll even be a little bit now,
I'll take it a step further. We took We talked
about Perdue Obama right at the outside of the show, guys.
And if you want to go to Central Michigan South
Alabama was at the fourteen minute and three seconds oh
the Timestamp game, you could jump right there. That's that's
where it was. So though they were the first two
games we broke down on the show today again, Remember
ten am Monday through Friday.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
This show is equipped, guys, It's equipped with everything times things.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Should we talk about the Michigan State I feel because
Rob mentioned the Michigan State game, should we mention that,
let's do it. Yeah, you and I were just over
the weekend. And it's a ranked team. Obviously, I think
it's the only other ranked team in action today besides
perduing Bbama. We're playing each other. Is that?

Speaker 4 (43:10):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I guess it's just for like I couldn't lay it
here is this? I mean they've had enough time off
that I guess maybe it's not a true letdown spot
for Michigan State. I mean that that place was rocket
on Saturday night against Arkansas, and that was a heck
of a performance I thought by Michigan State. I don't know,
like I just I hate the idea of backing a

(43:33):
team laying a huge number like this after a big
win like that. But Rob kind of San Jose State
is not exactly a team that I want to run
to the window to bet either, So I was just
interested in your in drigging, like in your thoughts having
just caught this Michigan State team in person. I know
you think Michigan State maybe a tinge overrated as well
from talking to you after the game, So you know

(43:55):
your thoughts here, cause it's a decision I'm wrestling with
whether or not you can fire on the dog or not.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I'll start this and I'll go to Rob because I
know he's got comments on the total, and I don't
think that we're necessarily going to contradict each other either.
So again, because my volume is so much higher in
college basketball, I'm a little bit more open to giving
out client plays on the show because I know I'm
going to have I'm probably gonna have more client plays

(44:25):
than I talk about on the show, especially if they're
the three percent variety. So I'll throw a second one
out because I've already got three posted for today, so
I'll throw a second one out. I did take the
plus twenty four and a half with San Jose State,
and Brian, you kind of touched on you touched on
some of my reasonings, so I disagreed with the move
up to twenty four and a half.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
I was I was lower. I think I was that
like eighteen or nineteen on the number.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
The spot is definitely not sort of ideal for a
Michigan State like runaway blowout type performance. You just had
Arkansas of Kentucky coming up, so that's like, you know,
it would qualify I think a little bit as like
a sandwich tight letdown spot. But I want to go
back to San Jose State for a second because, yeah,

(45:11):
even though and I'm sure Rob's gonna gonna talk to
us about their lack of defense, but you know, generally,
I think they are a little bit undervalued. I thought
Rob talked about Santa Barbara being like a team that
he's sort of in on, and I felt like they
played pretty good in that game hung around. I believe
they covered. Believe they covered the number there or they

(45:33):
covered the number in one of their games so far.
So San Jose States played twice. They've been a big
dog to Utah, which I believe they covered the Utah
game and didn't cover the Santa barbar game, but still
like still played Santa Barbara to an eleven point game
they won the second half. For what it's worth, point
is the point, and I didn't even make my point yet.

(45:56):
They are one of the teams that had guys kicked
off the team last year and had people act like
Tim Miles actively had guys trying to sabotage his team,
And I feel like these types of teams are still,
in some scenarios undervalued in the market, and I would
point to San Jose State being one of those teams. Now,
I don't think you know again, this is we're asking

(46:17):
them to cover twenty four and a half.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
We saw Georgetown last night come off this big win
over Maryland and struggle to beat a very bad Binghamton team.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
So.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
It's similar. Twenty four and a half seems like a
big number. Even if Rob's team total gets there, and
I'll kick it to him, I still think I cover
twenty four and a half.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
So twenty four and a half is a play for me.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah, and that's you know, that's the point, Adam, Right.
I mean, if Michigan State gets to eighty four, you're
only asking San Jose to get sixty.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
And you win the game.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
So I don't know that you're asking the dog to
do all that much. And I think San Jose State's
ability to cover is just it coincides with their style.
They're not going to run themselves into deficits. They're gonna
methodically play the game and that tends to keep it,
which is what makes their you know, eighty four and
eighty five points allowed in their first two games even

(47:11):
more alarming. And the teams that they played are good, right,
Santa Barbara's good, Utah's good. Those gyms are tough at
Michigan State the same way, I think, from your guys standpoint,
which side situationally totally makes sense. Stylistically totally makes sense.
If I'm only messing with the team total here on

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Michigan State side, I think Gizzo might be able to
get it out of his team. For what it's worth,
they're giving up sixty two and a half percent field
goals on the season. San Jose State and they get
crushed on the defensive boards. I mean, the one thing
you don't want to let Michigan State do is get
second chances. You can't walk in there three hundred and
second in the nation in defensive rebounding and think that

(47:53):
you're gonna get away with that from a points allowed standpoint,
So I think we're kind of saying the same thing
from different perspective. Side, They in total San Jose State
against situationally stylistically more than able to keep within twenty
four and a half. But Michigan State, considering the fundamental

(48:13):
advantages on the floor, more than capable of scoring eighty
three points.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
In this game.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
So I see that game now eighty three and a half,
so you need eighty four. So yeah, like I said,
I think we're saying the same things here. Let's keep
a look out and see how Michigan State performs here.
What is so can get out of his team in
what is a difficult situation as spot play is not
good for them.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Right, Michigan Michigan's Well, I just I wanted to bring
this up real quick, Michigan State from three, I kept
bringing this up to you on Saturday. I said, how
are they winning this game with this horrible three point shooting?
But and you know what was it? It was Ethan
actually the next day who he hung out with the
Boyan Green game. He follows the Michigan State. He's like,
that's a regular thing, you know, especially early in the year,

(48:58):
that this team does struggle to shoot three. It's it's
but I think they they've proven they can get theirs
to each of your points. Michigan State has proven they
can get theirs right, even with the bad three point shooting.
But if you don't shoot the three, well, it's really
hard to cover twenty four and a half, right, So
I think we're all locks at Michigan State will get theirs. However,

(49:19):
you know, winning by this big of margin when you
don't shoot the three, well, very difficult to do. And
how interested is a winning by a big margin?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Two?

Speaker 1 (49:27):
But my question for you was essentially that I was
going to ask you if you were too many spartas
in to remember you point like the fact that they
were getting good looks against Arkansas they just couldn't make them.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Wouldn't you say that the three.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Point shooting has to be far more I mean, they're
gonna have to knock them down to cover this number
at a far greater rate. Like they were still generating
decent looks against Arkansas, just couldn't hit one. Do they
just magically start draining threes here?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I thought Florida might. They didn't.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing. I mean, you know
a lot of times we all into the pattern of, oh,
they this team shot you know, horribly from three last game,
so that's they're gonna bounce back now. Well, some teams
are just not great at shooting the three. Michigan State
has proven that they're not particularly great at shooting the
three over the last several seasons, so they can still score.
To Rob's point, I think they will, but the three

(50:20):
is not there. Fourteen, Yes, that that's sparti Ipa was
really good. If you're at the bresilents that are fourteen dollars,
I mean, those are professional prices. But it was worth it.
The sparti Ipa. That was my winner.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
The wak we were strong too.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
It's a good thing we were staying in east Land
after most let me just.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Say that they were. They were. I think those are
like seven percenters at least.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Well, they were they were.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Cats to your point, Michigan state number three, nineteen in
the nation and three point shooting. Last year, they won
one game by twenty five points. They played thirty some
odd games. They won one game. They beat Niagara ninety
six to sixty. It's the only game they won by
this March. So how they score this year the same

(51:03):
way they score, and especially against a team like this
is probably about stick back, second chance layups, foule shots, whatever.
But yeah, when you only cover, when you only win
one game by twenty five, who the heck wants to
lay twenty four and a half with a team like.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
That, Brian, I gotta I gotta throw this to you
because you you made a point yesterday about about swack teams.
For the most part, the crazy, crazy schedule scheduling, they
go through the fact that they never get games at
home again unless it's like against like Mississippi. They play
like you, Bible studies you or whatever, like I.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Think I saw someone playing the other day.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Uh, Grambling has a home game against Southern Miss right here.
That's interesting to me, League Show says Grambling minus one.
Best bet I made a number for this. I've actually
got Southern miss probably a minus four. But I'll ask you,
am I not giving Grambling enough credit for a rare
home game here? Yes, we saw Longwood get that kind

(52:02):
of rare, big non conferne game, and they played very
well against James Madison. So I'm just interested to see
if you either have any takes about this one.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
And I know you kind of were.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Talking swack basketball yesterday, so so what do we think?

Speaker 2 (52:16):
So I do agree with Grambling being a short favorite
here at home, and yes it is a rare spot.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
That's where I have pretty fared up now Grambling. You know,
we've talked about coaching change as well. They had they
lost their head coach to a conference rival. So I
don't know. I mean, yeah, I mean I I how
much does it does that matter? The home court? I mean,
it shouldn't be just a one factor handicap. But I
I kind of made I made this minus too, so

(52:46):
it's not a huge value. As I break down my pie,
as I do a quick math with the power ratings,
so a slightly into Grambling, you know, you look at
what these teams have done. Southern Miss coming off a
close loss to South Carolina last.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Time, and.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
That and that begs the question, what do they have
left in the tank here?

Speaker 3 (53:09):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Whereas Grambling? Uh, they're off a win at Howard okay,
uh an outright win. They were four and a half
point dogs there. They come in probably with a little
bit more you know that they're feeling themselves a little more,
a little more confidence if you will, so, I yeah,
you twist them if this isn't a game, I'm gonna play, guys.

(53:31):
But if you twisted my arm and forced me to,
I hope you don't, I would take Grambling.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah, I think, guys, real quick, I'll just jump in
as somebody who on a personal level had to play
on South Carolina's team total the other night, and Southern
Miss had that team by double digits in the second half,
and after this bet is dead in the water. Miraculously,
South Carolina at home was able to come back and
tie that thing and push it into overtime, so the

(53:58):
bet cashed. I think if you're talking about personnel between
these two, I mean also, Southern Miss has played Buffalo.
Buffalo is a three and oh team. They went to
Buffalo and played them tough as well. If if you're
looking at personnel in this game. There's no way in
heck you're playing Grambling on their home floor or not.

(54:20):
Southern Miss the better team. But if you're playing situationally
overtime loss that you had one close game with but
you know, these things do start to It's kind of
early in the year to say that they add up
and they multiply, but it gets tough. I think Southern
Miss the better team, Grambling awfully dependent upon the three.
Southern Miss gives up a lot of threes, so we'll

(54:41):
see if they can cash in on that. But it's
an interesting handicaps. I can see the situational side and
I can see the fundamental side.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I'll say one more thing is keep brought them up,
Jay Ladner, Southern Miss. Yeah, that was that was Southeastern
Louisiana's coach before you got the Southern Miss job years ago.
And I am per personally, like cautiously optimistic for Southern
Miss relative to like like they're getting picked at the
bottom of the sun belt. Okay, And I look like

(55:11):
he's so he's playing like thirteen guys a game right now,
Like he has a large roster. One of the guys
that I believe is on his team. But hasn't played yet,
probably because it ties back into the investigations from last year.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Is Landon Glasper.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Who was one of the guys that got kicked off
NCA and t who is a very prolific scorer. So
I saw that he was in practice with them. He
has not played yet, like, but he has. I mean
he's got like fourteen I literally think he's put like
fourteen guys in games so far this year just playing anyway,
I mean a huge bench, and you have to wonder, like,

(55:50):
so I guess I'll leave it at like the fact
that like I'm not gonna bet against them because I'm higher,
Like like I said, I made the number I think four,
I'm gonna kind of like, look, I'm actually kicking myself
or not taking the points. With Southern Miss against South Carolina,
I was, I was way off on that number two.
I thought there was big value there and there clearly
was as they sent it to over overtime.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
I think Southern.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Miss out classes Grambling, probably wins here, but and they
are a team that I will look to, uh, you know,
to to fire on going forward. I think I think
they might have something going there before we close out.
Quick thoughts this is kind of the last game on
the board National TV. We haven't talked about it yet.
I'll go to you first, Rob Any, Kansas State Cal

(56:33):
thoughts for you, nine pm, My National.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
My initial thought, My initial thought was to play this
game over that total has moved, guys nine points out.
I think Mark Madsen when he was at Utah Valley,
they played a hectic pace, and they played a hectic
style that leads to opportunities in case. State has been
really really good offensively so far this year. So you know,

(56:59):
opening number fifty four, you kind of like total but
over but here one sixty three in the market's probably
priced me out.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, just real quick, and then I'm gonna just drop
my parlay leg to complete the parlay. It's a game
we've already talked about, guys, So I'm not gonna do
a huge breakdown on that. But you know, as far
as cal, Kansas State goes, Cal off to its best
starts twenty nineteen, three to oh straight up, three to
zero against the number Mark Matts and his Rob alluded to.
He's got them believing in Berkeley, but it is a
tough test going out to Manhattan. I think the question

(57:32):
is what's gonna hold up better Cal's defense or Kansas
State's offense and the total movie. Yeah, I don't know
that that's that's pretty crazy, but my parlay leg is
gonna be that Saint Thomas team total over eighty two
and a half. I mentioned all the red if you
go to the Green Bay's Ken Palm page, all the
red that is lit up under defense for Green Bay.

(57:55):
Here's just a few things. Three hundred and fifty six.
Then defensive efficiency three hundred and forty eight, effect the
field goal percentage allowed three hundred and sixty second, and
turnover percentage three hundred and fifty second, and free throw
percentage a free throw attempts allowed three hundred and fifty
third and two point percentage of the teams are shooting
sixty seven point seven percent inside the arc ats Green
Bay they're three hundred and fifty eighth and steal percentage

(58:17):
as well. So there's just really nothing. This team is
doing very well defensively, and they didn't do anything very
well defensively last year. Will they improve over time? Trigg, Maybe,
but not tonight Saint Thomas. The Tommys get theirs points wise,
and we don't have to worry about them covering an
inflated number. Just get over eighty two and a half points,
thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
You know, they just open a really nice new building
that I believe that game will be in. I'll throw
one thing out there about Kansas State CAL. I don't
like either of those teams. I'm hoping Kansas State blows
them out so I can fade Kansas State against Tulsa
on Tuesday, because I think Kansas State just chucks threes
and they don't really have much else outside of that.
I wish I had more confidence in CAL. I think

(59:01):
Cal's got just atrocious. If I had more confidence in them,
I would take the points. I don't, so I will
root for Kansas State to win big so I can
fade them next week, and we'll be here next week.
I'll remind you on the day I believe that's Tuesday
game next week, and I'll also remind you what the
parlay leg is because we got to get off here
before eleven am, so I'll go Cornell minus five. I

(59:23):
gave it out to clients at four and a half. Actually,
you know what, No, four and a half. I'm seeing
four and a halfs at Caesars Bet MGM. There's enough
four and a half, so we're gonna go Cornell minus
four and a half. LSU team total over eighty nine
and a half for ROB and Saint Thomas team total
over eighty two and a half for BP six to one.

(59:44):
Parlay again, Saint Thomas team total over eighty two and
a half, LSU team total over eighty nine and a
half Cornell minus five. That's your parlay for Thursday. It
is actually Thursday, Tomorrow's Friday. We'll be back with the
last show of the week. Enjoy the day basketball off
in a few minutes and go check out the replay
if you missed any part of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
We'll see you guys tomorrow