Denis Atkinson 8_17_2024

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
And Beautiful class every Time.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
And the Beautiful Lady.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is we talk weeklies after the Talking w PP
and l P Philadelphia one on six point five film.
We talked weeklies after the Talk. I'm your boy Charles
Gregory and look we have a jam packed show. Ladies
and gentlemen. Listen, Well you're talking to talk about music.
We gonna talk a little bit about music. We got
a gentleman with a tremendous amount of respect for that's
in the studio today, so we wanna talk a little

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bit about that.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Wenna.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
We got some good news and bad news, good good
news and bad news.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'll let y'all decide.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Ah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
We seem to do that every week, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
We got Ladys dout in the building and what else.
You know what, maybe I'll play a little bit of
Council President Kenyata Jacks Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Had some great words to say. You know, I had.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The opportunity this past week to go to Business on Board.
I believe it is business on board. They had something
that called Unusual Politics.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
It was really cool. It was really cool.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
The council president talked a little bit about why vote
our voice matters, right, and so it's important to talk
a little bit about why our vote in voice matters
as it relates to this upcoming election, because you're gonna
be tasks to vote for the person who you believe
best fit your interests.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I don't care who.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
You vote for, just as long as you perform is
civic duty. Again, don't feel pressured to vote for someone
who you believe you don't want to vote for. Your
vote is your voice, not everyone else who is telling
you to vote using their voice. If didn't make sense, right,

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So make sure you vote, make sure you perform your
civic duty. And with that said, c lady, how was
your day?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
How was your day?

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I have a field day, fun field day. Speaking of voting,
I actually hosted the first annual Camden County Democratic Committee
tea party. Yeah, the women Caucus. Basically they were pushing
the vote. So I'm like you see, I basically was

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telling everyone I'm not here to tell you who to
vote for, but use your voice to vote. But of
course is the Democratic Committee.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
So yes, it was into a round.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
They was like, she can't tell you who to vote
for the EMC, but I'm gonna tell y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
And of course Kamala Harris was at the top of
the list. And I mean when I say, these women
looked beautiful. It was empowering. It was like positive energy.
It was network and engagement. It was just great. They
had just shout out to the Mayor of Chiselhurst, Jamila
odom Her and her team did achiur Chiselhurst. It's near

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it's in South Jersey, near clementon Cherry Hill all that,
and it was in Cherry Hill. And also shout out
to Desiree uh Watkins, who is deputy mayor's first she's
the deputy mayor Raymond Watkins first lady, so she's married
to one of the deputy mayors. But again, the whole
team did an amazing job. So I did that this

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morning for about four to five hours. Uh my, my
my kids went, my sissy went like it was it
was just it was great.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So yeah, man, I'm here.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
What about.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I got the opportunity to spend this afternoon with a
childhood friend catch up, which you know, it's always good
to do that. We haven't spent some time together in
some years. So that was fun. And she brought her
daughter along who's getting married, and was like she wants
I was like, I'm trying to get off the wedding stuff,
but okay, her daughter wasn't at my wedding, but she

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was like, it looks like so much fun. Can you
help me? So I was like, y'all try and throw
me back into work already, but it was it was
we just spent I just spent like a you know,
a hour or so with her. But then we got
the chance to do lunch and stuff. So that was nice.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Okay, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay, all right, what's up?

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Come on?

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah, we know you had a busy day outside a
busy day. Can you give us a little bit more
detail in your day?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Just excited of our next guest.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
See here we go. I'm just excited for our next guests.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And so why don't you let us know what we had.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
To day we had today?

Speaker 5 (04:49):
So today we have mister Dennis Atkinson holds a Bachelor
of Arts from Eastern University and a Master of Music
from Berkeley College of Music. A Grammy nominated a ranger
and orchestrator, he has worked with top artists like John Legend,
Shirley Ralph. Uh that's also a musical treat that we'll
talk about the iconic Shirley Ralph in this interview. Y'all

(05:13):
already know what to do. Let's give a warm we
talk weekly. Welcome to mister Dennis Atkinson.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
How are you, my friend?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
A studio with us today?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Hold on, I don't hear you, my friend. Let's go
it again one more again. Thank you, thank you, glad
to be here.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Thank you, appreciate it absolutely absolutely, So you know, we
all we started off our conversation, how was you.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Thay my brother Hawaran, I'm good man. Just one day
at a time, you know, like like my grandmother, my
grandfather say, thank god, I woke up above the grass
this morning.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So that's right, So that no doubt. So let's let's
jump right into it. What got you into music? I mean,
you spoke about your grandfather. Did he have any kind
of like influence in your music?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Was it your parents?

Speaker 7 (05:57):
Like?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
What got you actually in the music? Actually I was
born here in Philadelphia and then I ended up moving
to North Carolina, so I was surrounded with a lot
of quartet singing. So my dad was into those kind
of groups. So during that time, that was actually training

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my ear. I didn't know what chords were and all that,
so that was training my ear and you know. And
then I ended up coming back to Philadelphia and I
ran into a lot of different gospel influences such as
the name is Michi Girl and Waller places for John
p ky As kiny of Walk all these guys. So
I started learning different you know, music, and it just

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opened me yup.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, you went into Berkeley, Berkeley College, that's a prestigious college. Yeah,
how was it getting into?

Speaker 6 (06:53):
How?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
First for all, how hard was it getting in?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean you're talking about musical greats that went to Berkeley, right,
But how how was that experience for you?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Well, I actually have a story about that. It was
I was trying to get in in two thousand and
nine and financially it didn't work at all. So I
re verted to online classes to get a certificate, and
then I tried to go back again. I auditioned twice
and got accepted, but financially it just didn't work. So,

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but all along God was just saying not yet, you know.
So I eventually went back after I went to Eastern
University my bachelor's life, I said, I'm gonna try this
one more time, just one more I wanna see what
happened again. They accepted me, and I actually graduated last
year fresh fresh.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
How did that feel that? You know, it was the
challenge getting in, but you finally executed and got that
piece of baby.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
It was a good feeling, man. And one of the
things that I learned that just because God says he
don't answer you right away, that that doesn't mean that
he's singing no right, you know, no dumb no dump. Yeah,
go ahead, spark. I like you ask some questions.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, I wanted to know.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
We didn't read the full bio, but we'll go all
into that. And it looks like you have different different
types of approaches to different genres of music. Tell us
how do you how do you have that ear for
that because some people who when they sing gospel is
just gospel, or R and B is just R and B.
Tell us more about the different musical styles and how
this each genre, you know, had that creative process.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, For me, I grew up listening to a lot
of different music, you know, gospel, jazz, Escapedison, even some
uh Barry Manilo. Yes, you know, you know most cultures
look at that kind of funny. So but those different

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type of class, classical, you know, pop, all of that
is it just resonated with me. And I was just
always a stiicular for the more genres that you learn
and get up under your belt, Uh, the more check
you get so you're able to you know, you know,

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do different styles, you know. And then I just jumped
into well not just jump into but film scoring. That's
a whole other animal. So it's not like, what is
it called film film scoring?

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Tell us more about what film scoring?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Film film scoring is.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And I don't want to turn you from the camera.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So film scoring is basically when uh, a composer that
writes music gets with a film director or a producer
and they get together and they discuss writing music for
the film rather if it's a song, rather it's mood music,
you you know, it's horror and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

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that's just it's something.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's funny you say that I saw something online and
it was different strokes right. I don't know if y'all
saw it, Yeah, did I send it to you?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (10:11):
And it was like, you know, the theme song on
the different strokes, different strokes that okay. So they took
that off and.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Scary music.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
And I've literally seen it like this man has kidnapped
these two black boys off the pass and then when
they look back, it's like what, like I know, the movie,
the series, the show.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
So that's why that's why music scoring is so important
because the music and lighting sets the tone for your film.
So based on what music you lay under that can
create the tone for it, you know what I mean.
So that's also what evokes emotion from your audience. So
even when you're watching Halloween, that Halloween music that we
hear with you know, Michael Myrin, like that was written

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specifically for that film. So while you may hear like
when they say a movie sounds rag okay, And they
took a bunch of songs, some that may have written
for the movie or something that they were already on
albums and used it in the movie. So you got it,
sounds right. But scoring is a little different because this
is custom music that's just for that particular film.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Gotcha, okay, all right, So so with with filming, what.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Is it film? Music scoring? Music scoring?

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Is it like hurts?

Speaker 7 (11:23):
Like?

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Is it like sound like that? As far as you
orchestrating what sounds you want involved in the music in
the film.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Basically it's like a conglomerate of like working with the
orchestra or work working with samples, you know, like slaps
on tables and all that stuff. And yeah, it's a
whole conglomerate of that.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
What was your very first memory of music that really
influenced you and was like, yeah, I gotta do this.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's a good So there is a group that I
am crazy about, y'all may know. It's called Take six.
Oh Take six. I am good friends with Mark Kibble
and Claude McKnight. So all harmony.

Speaker 8 (12:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, So when I heard them, that just that changed
my world. I was like, I want to learn harmony.
I'm gonna learn these songs. I'm gonna learn I'm gonna
get into it because I started out on drums and
then after I heard them, I just so that was
that that did it for me.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Wow, that's pretty big. That's pretty big. So moving forward
we graduate recently, you know, Uh, you got into this music.
And I listened to some of the arrangements that you
sent to us.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
The one that.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Stood out to me, Oh, well, Philly's own jazz miscellovan,
right of course, so I love her, But it was
maybe the first one you sent.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I really really liked.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
What what inspires you to? Because it seems it seems
you you lean towards a certain genre, right, it seems
you lean ball it wise. It seems you mid tempo,
you know. Is it a reason for that?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Is it the mood that that really brings you in?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Is it the artist?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
What is it that that makes you push a certain
way with the music?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Good question one, it's the artist the delivery to me.
Once they come to me. Then I have the song
blah blah blah blah blah, and once I hear it,
it's that mid tempo, slow sound. And and for the
most part I got this from Quincy Jones. He said, uh,
there's a song that's called uh Little Darling by but

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it was faster and they played it in count Basie
thing and he and he said Count Basie said wait, wait,
wait wait, he said, let's slow it down. And he
picked the slowest tempo and that he ever heard it life,
And he said, and when they played it, you can
hear the harmonies, you can hear the chords, you can
feel the emotion in the song because when it's fast

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and just rushed it by, you know. So that's the
approach that I take, you know, timing, I don't necessarily
slow the song down, but it's just kind of that warm,
heartfelt vibe. Man, I just ends up going that I
hear it, I hear it.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I mean, I mean, we get tons of music sent
to us, right and I usually don't pay I go
through it. It only takes me, like I want to say,
like five six seconds, and I'm like, all right, it's
going I keep it moving. But I mean, listening to
your music, I was like, whoa. I listened through and
then I go to the next one, listen through. Then
I go to the next one, Like all right, I'm
loving what I'm hearing. And I like the Christmas thank you,

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the Christmas piece of it. All of the music was amazing.
Thank you, bro, absolutely absolutely so kudos to you. And
I'm sure we'll make sure that we'll play a lot
of the music here, and I would encourage you send
something to us that you believe might score. We talk weekly,
you know, and we play it every time we come on.
You know, we'll make something like that happen. But as

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we move forward, right in your mess and your and
you're working with these artists, right, is it an artist
that you haven't had the ability to work with right
now that you.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Would love to work with?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
And and to add to that question, right, artists and
musical musical right both.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I have always actually met Quincy Jones one time, but shout,
I would love to work with him. But artists wise,
that's a good question. Man, Whitney's not here, Man, he's
not here. Michael is going. So I would probably have

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to say, you know, most likely Beyonce upcoming, Coco Jones
actually yeah, I love yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Uh musical. What if you had the opportunity to do
another musical over like, say, for example, The.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Wiz or something like that. Yeah, I just watched it.
That's why I came out The Wiz.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I love it wis But what what musical would you
like to re score or is it a musical out
there that you watched and you was like.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I probably would have did that a little different. It
would definitely be the Wiz and you know, some stuff
you just can't redo. But some stuff it would be
the Wiz and it will be the sound of music.
That's big. That's big because I'm into orchestra.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, that's huge, that's huge. Like what's that song? I mean,
what's that film? Something reducts. I can't remember the name
of the film, but that was a huge moment Close
Encounters of the Third Kind, that.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Was a huge musical moment. Et.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, I had a lot of musical moments.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
It seems the older music, the older shows concentrated more
on like thematic, big music.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
And that's a good point because that's what we learned
in Berkeley. Interesting, I'm talking Berkeley talk. I'm talking about
a lot of the guys and neo John Williams. You know,
those guys wrote themes things. Is very big back then,
you know, and one of the things that they taught

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us is we can themes is important, just like you said,
because it builds a memory. But today's films don't have
a lot of that, you know.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
You know, I don't know, I don't know what's going
on with the music today. It's just so different. I
think of all right, here you go spark what the
Godfather wouldn't be the Godfather without that? Yeah, look, you
know you Godfather wouldn't be Godfather without that music.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Even what's that movie it's connected to the Godfather somewhat
once upon a time in America? Yeah, neo, Mary Coney,
he did discover.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
What challenges have you faced to ensure that your arrangements
are you know, being brought to life by the performers,
Like have you ever had a challenge where you you
have to pull it out of the you know, the
performers when you're orchestrating.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Most of the time. Yeah, because they they hear the
music that i've So here's the process to answer your question.
So the artists would come to me and I will
make a mock up of what the orchestra would sound like,
not a real orchestra, but like them, but you know,
and then I'll give it to them so they can

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kind of hear. See back in the day, they really
didn't have that. It was just they said it at
the piano. So the challenge is a little a little
easier because they can hear already what it's going to
sound like. So when I work with them, it's like, Okay,
this is what it's gonna sound like, this is what
I need you to do, you know, versus like what
the work is just going to sound like? We're not sure.

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We just hear a piano playing. We don't know what
you know, then you have to really work hard to
get them. So nothing challenging really, the plus a level
of artists that I work with, the just yeah, getting
to do it.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Do you listen to classical?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I have you heard of Florence's Price?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
So familiar.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Yeah, she's way back, but I think she was like
the first black woman.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
She did her first.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah, she composed when she was like I think four
or five years old. But I just you know, I
I've diagnosed myself with add.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
But when I'm.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Working, I have to have some kind of background noise.
And I listened to classical music when I'm studying, when
i'm you know, writing, whatever I'm doing, you know, I
turn it down and it allows me to think better.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, the word classical stands out because there's been a
kind of discreptancy about what is actually classical. All right,
all right, teach, But well, I mean, well I was
in school and they was like jazz is classical music. Yeah, instrumental, instrumental, jazz, opera,

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like all music is, it has its, you know, but
we've we've been taught culture. You know that classical is
and it looks a certain way, you know, it sounds
a certain way, and that's that's that's really not the case.
It's all it's classical.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
I mean, I think Star Trek like that was classical music.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Classical music.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, yeah, interesting I got I'm i'mna say, all right,
so interesting enough. Number one big movie thing, it's The Godfather.
I just happened to look it up to see like
some top tens, So say so, I want you to
listen to these top tens and let me know if
you agree.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
They have this.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
On another side, it said top one hundred and thirty
best movie theme songs right when I am d bing
one rocking with a dream?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
You agree? Never heard it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I had it had one of the Waiians brothers in it,
and all that I actually seen it. Two thousand came
out to thousand. Gladiator it's number two, okay. How about
Inception twenty ten? Yes, number four, Platoon, pieces of that
I really get into the abbey, okay. Number five the

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Last of the Mohicans. I don't know if I've seen that,
never seen that, okay, yeah, two thousand and one, well,
number six, Space Odyssey, Yeah, okay, there you go. Number seven,
Pirates of the Caribbean, you would agree, okay, Number eight,
Lord of the Rings, right, Number nine, interesting, sauw, that's different, yeah, right?

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Number ten twenty eight days later. I can't remember that.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Twenty eight days later. Scary movie.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Twenty eight days later. Was it started with some monkey
had some disease?

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Great?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, okay, okay, vaguely remember that? Okay? Interesting?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Eleven real quick, some honorable mention as far as love
your twelve brave heart, I agree. Thirteen of Divide, I
don't remember.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Remember that? Fourteen Armageddon yo? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, Fifteen Star Wars, yeah, sixteen Sunshine, I don't remember that. Uh,
seventeen Jurassic Park, yeah, John Williams, Yes, yes, yes, hold on,
eighteen Starship Troopers, see that one. Nineteen Halloween yeah, okay,
and twenty a mill a million.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
It's like a kind of like this.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
We see that.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
I think they didn't even go far enough back.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
You got carried, you got Jaws. It's so many that
you can.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Like go back in the eighties, like Freddy Krueger was like.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Like this.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
The Agremlins Criminal, Yeah, Gremlins, and we got what's that movie?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Was it? I want to say, uh, old man, I
forgot what you the omen?

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yes, what's the one with her head spins?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh gosh, she said, her head spins, no doubt. So
I want to jump into you want you ask the
question because we were about to get on my fate
one of my favorite people in the world.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I want to play in it.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
But my question about your favorite person in the world.
So go ahead, it's the same question.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Surely, rough, Yes, super Bowl. I want to play a
little something and I want you to talk a little
bit and make sure we don't get struck with this job.
I'm gonna present something. We'll go here, let let's do this,
and let's talk a little bit about just a little
piece of it.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
But we won't go into it.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
To perform lift every voice and saying please welcome Emmy
Award winner Cheryl Lee rel.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Lift every food.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Ah see.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Chec readit.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
All right, that's probably about all we can play when
I'll get instruck, So YouTube will strikes you in two seconds? Right.
I probably played too much, but I wanted to listen
to it, but if you want to go, you can
just google it in.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
A pop right up.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Maybe we'll put it on our website so you can
find it directly. But I'm going to talk a little
bit about that. One how did you get the opportunity
to do that?

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Two?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
What were you thinking, as you know, with the arrangement
of that right?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
And three when it was complete? What was the feeling
of that moment? Well, how I got the opportunity to
do it is I'm real good friends with Adam Blackstone.
You just mad have heard of him. He do all
the hip hop B two Wards shows. He's just huge
right now. So he called me, He's like, hey, man,

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I need to killer arrangement of you know that song?
And I said, all right, you know, I said, what
what key? What ken you need of? In the you know,
we kept going back and forth. So he sent me
a demo of just the roads playing and I took
that and I built the the orchestral and the strings

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around that and you know, horns and all that kind
of stuff. And then so everything is digital today, So
once I got done, I sent that to the drummer.
His famous bridge came from Philly to amazing. Yeah yeah
with pink right.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Now, shout out the pink too from around the way.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
So so that's how I got that gig, and he
loved it and we just moved forward. I kind of
actually there was no vocal on it, so I had
to imagine I had to her singing and someone singing
how it would probably sound, and just kind of build

(27:26):
that bed for them too, you know. And then I
actually didn't hear it until it was on TV.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
So what was that moment like, so when you when
you when you seen it on TV with your arrangement
with you know, she she's she's black excellence, right, and
so what what was that emotion like?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
What were you thinking? Like, you know, it was exciting, man,
it was. It was something on that level, you know,
the Super Bowl opening. You know, I'm not gonna little me,
but it was just like wow, Finch myself, like, man,
this is happening. You know my frat brothers they call me, uh,

(28:10):
Paradise Lodge one okay, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, brother brother,
your brother traveling.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
From h.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
And and I found out that Chryl is actually a daughter,
thank you so and Pyramid one okay, okay, good, okay,
So yeah, so all of that I was actually and
then Adam shout out to Adam, he uh put the
credits up on Facebook, like you know who.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Did what, and a lot of people don't know that's
give him around a see this this is, this is
I just want to stop you. That you can finish
your story, but I just want to stop there real quick,
because certain people, when they get to a certain position,
they feel like other people are insignificant. And when you
have a platform that big, it's really important for those

(29:14):
who are coming up underneath you for you to shout
them out right. And so if you're watching this and
you have any level of influence and you have been helped,
please please give them credit. Please give those people credit
because oftentimes you don't get paid.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
For it, so all we do have is our credit.
So please give us our credit. I'm sorry, go ahead, but.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Really quick, just say what this is Where people who
just tuned in that this mister Dennis Atkinson for the
fiftieth Super Bowl, that he orchestrated the national anthem sung
by Shirley.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
That's right, that's right. Yeah, yeah, so it was In fact,
I was home playing with my three year old and
I got a call from Johnny krum okay drummer. He
actually put the Brison on them eyes on, so, you know,
oh ed and he was like, hey man, he said,
you all over Facebook, and I'm like, what's going on?
He said, I don't put your name up.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
You did it.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
This is mad And I happened to look. I was
just so I thank God for the opportunity, you know,
and him connecting me with you know, guys like that,
and you know, but it was a great feeling.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Man overall, it was like fantastic. Yeah, and you can
correct me if I'm wrong. But the gentleman who he's
referring to is the gentleman who if I believe it
was the fifty fifty years fifty years of hip hop
on BT where he did the acknowledgment of those who passed.
Oh so he put that whole kind of BT show together. Wow?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Right, Am I correct with that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
And so that's that's who the gentleman who he's talking
about that kind of like putting on and called him
and reached out to you. You're talking about a person
that's making some waves in the industry right now. So
kudos to him.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know for sure. Yeah, yeah, So it was a
good feeling, man, it was. It was a good feeling.
And a lot of gigs came from that.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I'm sure I was going to ask, so what were
what came out of that? And was it something where
people were calling you like, yo, i've seen you can
can you do this now?

Speaker 9 (31:17):
Like?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
How did that start working on it? That's how it happens.
I mean, you know, you're just doing your thing and
then just go. Then you see your names, and then
after a while you start getting calls and everything just
start happening. Shout out to doctor Stephen Ford. He's like
the Quincy Jones of gospel and he was my mentor
at which and uh he as well as Adam Blackstone.

(31:40):
He pushed me out there as well, you know so
and yeah, and the gigs came, the scores came, movies
came out. I also did the World Games.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
You may have seen that.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
I got a call from doctor Henry and he wanted
me to do the opening ceremony and the closing ceremonies.
So seventy five piece orchestra. It was great. I'm met
Lionel Ritchie so he's a brother too.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Oh, I know that, and yeah, so so many great
things came from that man and still coming. So I
just I just give God thanks for amazing the opportunity. Amazing, amazing, amazing.
That's why you have.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
That's why I say, like, if you're in a position
sometimes we don't care about payment. If you can just
look push the elevator to send the back down to
get us, that's all we want.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
That's all we want.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
You don't have to give us no money, just you know,
give us a look, give us a no look past
so we can make this cists, right, and that's what
we want.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Quest I want to know what legacy do you want
to leave behind.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
The legacy that I want to leave behind to upcomer composers,
arrangers and producers is that if you believe in it
and it's in your heart, I mean it's in your bones,
to do you know, keep doing it, don't stop. You know,

(33:13):
as Steve Hart Harvey said, he didn't have a plan
B because if you put too much emphasis on plan B,
planing A is not gonna work. That's right, that's right.
And so so the legacy that I would like to
leave is just keep going, don't stop. If It's in
you no matter what. And and there will be some

(33:33):
draw seasons. There was a lot of draw seasons, brother,
you know, but God made away you know, he said
his gift will make room for you. So but that's
what I would leave is just don't give up. Keep
going from my experience fantasy.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
So, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking with someone with my
betreminus and I don't respect for if you just tune
it in. We have mister and it's Atkinson and he
I'll rewind. I'm not gonna give it, not gonna give
it away because I want you to watch the show,
rewind from the beginning and watch who this gentleman is,

(34:11):
who is building a legacy and where again we're talking
about black excellence here because I believe that you have
some big things in the future. And since we're on that,
I think that's a great transition to talk a little
bit about what do you have coming up next?

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Uh, I'm working on a film at the moment. It's
titled entitled It's about Brandon Cooper. He's from I believe
it's from DC Iconic Films. It's his production and a
brief synopsis about the movie and It's about a mother
and a father and their daughter and they they they're

(34:50):
living kind of like a lavish life, and they kind
of struggling financially and they're contemplating on selling their assets,
so you know, and then they go deeper and they
start digging into the daughters. Oh what do you call it?
The her life insurance? You know, and then it just

(35:14):
takes a turn, you know, so I have to score.
I start this week, start scoring on that. Last year,
I did a movie called A Naughty Christmass and me
as Christmass, A Naughty Christmas Story. It's on two B.
I'll tell you it's a mess.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
I love.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
It's a mess. It's a mess, and it's good though.
It's really good. Trey Cheney's in it. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, allright,
no doubts.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
So why don't you let everyone know how they can
get in contact with you, how they can find you
all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
You can go to www dot Dennis l Atkinson Junior
dot com and I will be of great service to you,
fantastic and you go there, you go.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
We're talking about black excellence, ladies and gentlemen, and it
was absolute pleasure to have you here want to show
my brother let it be. I want you to continue
doing excellent work. And you know, I think you know,
when we think of when we think of music, we
don't necessarily think of a composer like yourself. We don't
think of someone you know, doing big arrangements. And so

(36:25):
your unicorn in that respect, you know, and to the
fact that your hair on. We talk weekly and we're
able to give you a platform for more people to
know who this is. I think you'll have more people
considering different ways to put music together.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oftentimes we will see certain music and we gravitate there
because that's all we know, right right, And so I
just want to talk you know what. Let's before I
let you go, why don't you talk a little bit
about that? What got you into that style of music?
You know, instead of you know what we what we'll
grow up to hip hop or something like that, or

(37:04):
or maybe R and B. You know what what got
you into this big music? You know, which is so amazing.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I would have to say it has It was two
people and it's Quincy Jones and doctor Stephen Ford. I
had no idea I was going to be interested in
strings work, flutes, you know that I just because I
looked at that as classical, you know, I'm like, that's
for them, you know. And I started there's no pen,

(37:39):
no no time, like, no pinpoint where where I can
pinpoint it. It just happened, man, And a lot of
stuff I was following. I never knew that Quincy Jones did.
I was learning a lot of stuff, you know, and
it was just Samford and Son. I'm not sure you
know he did. I didn't know he did. Bill Cosby,
he did.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Powers.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
You know, this dude, he's crazy.

Speaker 7 (38:03):
Man.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
And so I started learning and and every time I
would look at I was like, Quincy Jones, see it again.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
That's why it's important to read the credits right.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
There, you go. So I went into his uh and
and just read his stuff and that just opened up
another world for me. And basically I looked at him like,
if he can do it, then I know I can
do it. But that's exactly it's that point.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
That I want people to take from this. Right for
a young man, young you know, young lady, young sister
to look at you and say.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
If he can do it, I can do it. And
that was one of the reasons why because as a culture.
Just like you said, sometimes we get locked into a box,
you know, and there's a there's a lot in this
man that just because he did that and Stephen Ford
did that, and I'm like, there's not a lot of

(39:06):
us doing that, you know. I said, let me take
a stab at it, and it just growing. So then
I started thinking about others. I'm like, how many other
cats out there? That's I was able to really like
sat down and right for a movie. You know. I'm
not sure if you notice, but Henry Mancini uh, he
was sitting with Quincy Jones and somebody was talking to

(39:29):
him about Quincy doing movie music, and they was like,
I was thinking of Quincy Jones, can he do? And
Henry said yeah. He said but Ken, and he kept
stuttering and staggering. He said, but Ken, can black men
do movie music?

Speaker 8 (39:48):
You know?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
And he said, of course they can? You know. So
it's those things man, that was like, you know what
I want to.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Do that that's because they're concerned about how well around
that you are. A lot of times they us look
at us and think we only knew one kind of music.
That's why I was it was very important for you
to learn all the other music and anything that we
want to engulf ourselves in and be good at. You
have to learn the history of it and where the
music to start from the strings, right. They got all
the base machines today where you just the drums and

(40:17):
everything set for you. But it's nothing like real music
when you got that full band and full orchestrastra and
you get to hear those instruments live, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
And I want to start, and I want to know,
I said I want to do.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I was going to let you go, but real quick,
because I want people to understand because you you said
something earlier that everything is digital now, right, and so
real quick, can you walk us through how you create
this big sound?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Real quick? Yeah? Well, it all starts with the melody, right,
you know, And for most composers or musicians, we got
a thousand and one cores and arrangements for one melody,
and it's about choosing that right one, and that's difficult sometimes.
So we get on the piano, we work out the chords,

(41:05):
the timing and all of that. Now, what are you
using when you do that? I use logic. I have
a controller Motif x F eight, and I use that
and I sit there and I work out the harmonies,
you know, the kinks and all that kind of stuff,
and then I make a sketch of what I want

(41:27):
the orchestra to do, you know. So I may just
do chords and that would be just for the strings.
If I do some runs and something, I may do
that for the woodwinds.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
If I want to open space and I just want
to play some warm chords, I'll leave that for the
warm of French horns. So it's kind of like building
a house, you know what I'm saying, And and and
then it just grows from there. I have a music
music notation software called Sabellius seven, and you have to
enter all the notes in there. You know this it

(42:01):
a button and the pop up. You know, you have
to and it's almost like old school, like back in
the day Quincy and them they sit down the roade.
You know this here is you know, you have your computer,
so you put the notes in, you know, and one
at a time, and then the drummer. Then you gotta
do the music notation for the bass player. Then you

(42:22):
have to do the score. If there are background singers,
you have to score that out. So it's a process, man.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
I mean, and you're so so you're layering all of
this information, right, and you're putting it into logics or
you're putting it into.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I'm putting it into logic and sibelius and it sinks
up and I can play them both at the same time.
So you would hear the drums, the sensing on that
and the orchestra behind it, and then I bounced that
down and it's a mock up, and I can give
you and like a simulation of what it would sound
like on TV or this and that.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
What if a young, young young person was watching this,
like gosh, I would love to get in contact with
him more.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Does he help you out?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Does he has have anything that you know assisted you know,
what would you say to the young person that's watching
you right now?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I would say, make sure this is something that you
really really want to do. And that's not to scare
them off, but it's it's a process, you know, you
you it's time. You know, some people want the fast
road these days, you know, they want to get in
and just hit a button it up, you know, and

(43:32):
that's how it is, you know. But what I would
say is, just make sure that this is just this
is something that you really really want to do. And
and uh, if you need advice, you know me and
I know a couple of other people that can give
you some advice on how to how to go by
getting started doing it and going to the next level. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Man, well I like to thank you for coming on
and we talk weekly. Amazing, inn this what you said
this was your first interview. Yeah, I can't tell you.
I can't tell. Well, at least we talked weekly, had
at first, right, So that's what's up.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
But good stuff man.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
And one thing that we say on the show is
once you come to the show, you're a friend to
the show, so you're always welcome to come back.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
And I'm advocate behind the scene folks, you know what
I mean. So first interviews interew you got that exclusive scene.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Rather for that, Yeah, thank you, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
So when you're continuing the rise, I won't say when
you get there, because you're there, right, but when you
continue to rise, don't forget the little folks. No, no,
a little folk in Philly.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
You know what I mean. It's no doubt.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
So then you have ladies and gentlemen. I don't want
you to go anywhere because when we come back, it
got someone with to them. I have a tremendous amount of.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Respect for Bell of Rose.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I can't wait to talk to them, right and so
I don't want you to go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
We'll be right back yard right after this.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Sluck up, plucks.

Speaker 9 (45:04):
Up, block up, flucks up, sluck up, slucked up, sluck up,

(45:27):
slucked up, sluck up, slucked up, spa stuck up, stuck up,
ducked up.

Speaker 10 (45:47):
We just want to get a little background as to
who the fantastic noises and the noisemakers, if you can
let us know, yes, absolutely so. Once again, I am
fantastic noise. I am the original noisemaker. So no one's
gonna as much noise as me. Okay, And right here
we have the Noise Maker band.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
This is only half of it.

Speaker 10 (46:05):
The other stuffs are upstairs, the My My, Kevin, Kevin, Lamar,
Lannie and Dobbs, who are the actual band members. These
are the background singers and we came to make some noise.
We can to bring that noise today. So that's that's
what we would do.

Speaker 11 (46:17):
That's that's right.

Speaker 7 (46:18):
How did you guys get together?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Man?

Speaker 10 (46:20):
So it started with I've been doing this on my
own for almost three years now. And man, I guess
each of these people here have different background stories. Most
of us went to the same church together, and we
just kept going.

Speaker 8 (46:33):
This one her and this is my one of my
assistants said, one of like the my my biggest support
of my biggest sugary hear, she's assistant. So we just
been building and the same thing with upstairs with the band,
just meeting through people kept networking, kept seeing them.

Speaker 10 (46:46):
It was just like God or dang bab here we
are awesome. Yeah, Well, could you guys do we talked
weekly a favor?

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (46:52):
Can you give us a drop in a melody type way,
a meli type way. Okay, So we talked weekly.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
Okay, so we're gonna do like this.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Wa talk.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
We we come in here.

Speaker 12 (47:04):
Us we talk.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
We come in here, them we talk. We come in
here now we talk. May come in here. We'll come
in here now. We's talk made me.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Come in.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
You just gave me.

Speaker 10 (47:32):
Give beautified because you're already corn yo' all right, than.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
We talked weeks after they're talking to B P P. M.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Pete Philadelphia one on six point five f When we
talked week after the talk with your boy trans and
beautiful lady.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yes lady, Yes, Sparkle went down and let the last
the guess.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, so she'll be back in a second. But let's
talk a little bit about what do you think about
that guest lady?

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yes, I thought that was a refreshing for us. I
like getting exclusive interviews and I like you paying how
much to the behind the scene folks? Man, you don't.
We don't get the glory, the blessing, you know what
I mean? Everybody the faces that are up front are
the ones that everybody knows, and everybody wants to interviews,
but they don't know how much work goes into the
behind the scenes stuff. Man, all that music you hear

(48:18):
when you're watching the movies, when you looking at your
favorite movie and the scary movie that's making you jump,
Trust me, it's the music that's making you jump, right,
So that takes time, and people don't know how much
work goes into that.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
So I love people like him, Me too, Me too,
And you know, I think the crazy thing also is that,
you know, I always talk a little bit about just credit.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Man, that's all we want is credit.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Don't worry about you know, because I heard somebody tell
tell a couple of people like they wanted me to
kind of you know, costume.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Or wardrobe the movie.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
And they was like, you know, I don't know if
I can afford them some stuff from like you don't
worry about it.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
You don't worry about it. Just make sure I get
that credit credit.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
What happens. I'm a person that read the credits, you
know what I mean, Because I need to know who
I want to need to connect withness, you know what
I mean. So somebody see a film and they love
the wardrobe, they gonna look to see who that costume
person was, right, They gonna find your name, They gonna
come look you up. So even if you can't pay
me a whole lot of money, you just got me
my next gig. Just give me my credit.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
That's all good.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Speaking of getting credit, let's get credit to this next
person that we have coming up.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Who do we have coming up next?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
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Speaker 1 (50:00):
Look like she would look like she froze and got
to jump back going, I don't know what was going on. Yeah,
I don't know what went on with her. Hopefully everything
is already looked like she was arguing with somebody there.
Hopefully everything was okay.

Speaker 7 (50:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
But as we wait for her to jump back on
what we'll do, Let's let's talk a little bit about,
you know, the idea that we talk a lot about
this election, right, We talk a lot about this election,
and we talk a lot about you know, us doing
our due diligence and us doing our research, right, and

(50:37):
so let's talk a little bit about you know what,
do you believe the need for us to express our voice, like,
let's talk a little bit about the importance for that.
And I've jumped to you, ladys, why do you think
is really important?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
All right?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
So just to be specific, are we talking about.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
This wherever you want to take it? Wherever you want
to take.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Because when you said it, the first thing that popped
in my mom was the election.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
All right, here she goes, she jumped right back on,
So let's jump her on. Let's what's going on? Everything?
All right?

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Looked like he was going back and forth with somebody.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I said, on a plane train.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
And they say, I had a long day.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
That's all right, I am.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
I am going to train. I'm on my way through tree.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Okay, shout out, shout out.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
So let's talk a little bit because I know you,
you know, you kind of preoccupied the little bit, you know,
so you know I usually act, So I start there,
So how was your day?

Speaker 11 (51:32):
How was your Then I got it back, M Well,
we had to get on a plane so I can
surprised one of my frames, uh.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
That he used to get a speaking event.

Speaker 11 (51:43):
And then we work for New York City for the
Fanatics Fast so that we can see everything at the
fanatics Fest.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
And then after the fanatics Fest we're here. Yea.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
Very long day, very long day. That's all right, Yeah,
but it is.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I don't know if you heard that in trouble, we're
talking about your your your products and and the Macy's
and Walmart and Target and everywhere they can find them
and taking you out right now, I'm like, listen, look
at these glasses. Okay, loving them. So tell us tell
us about this line, and we're you know how you

(52:24):
started and into especially with the with the jewelry right
because we skincare products. We want to hear about that skincare.

Speaker 7 (52:35):
E fell Okay, can you come back at ten minutes?
Can you come back at ten minutes?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Hello, we're here. Can you hear we can hear you.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
We can't hear you can't hear us? She she she
went out again?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Well what she probably but sometimes she's traveling, so she
probably went under one of the tunnels or something like that.
And so we'll just talk a little bit about you know, uh,
just we'll just talk a little bit until she gets
ready to jump back on and she gets better reception.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I love her glasses.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
But you're actually on her website right now, so tell
us a little bit about what you're seeing on her website.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Yeah, not trying to doing I was.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Trying to get to it. This is everything. Let me see.
Let me see if I can pull it up. Because
the skincare products and the candles, you know that, you know,
that's like a you know, that's that's the woman's glory
right there, you know, when we're trying to have our
you know, our me time and ourselves. Yeah, when we

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finally get all y'all out of the house and we
want to, you know, run that bath.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
You want them candles stopping? It looked like she's back up.
Let's jump back up.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Yes, you guys hear me?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (53:58):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, we can hear you.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Can you hear us? Oh my god, you can't hear us.
That's all right.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Well, we're gonna keep talking until you can hear it
because we can't hear you right now. But if you
can hear us, uh, yeah, we can hear you talking,
but she can't hear it. So she having some technical
difficulties right now. Yeah, can you hear us? No, no doubt,
you can't hear it yet, so maybe, so what go ahead?

Speaker 3 (54:34):
You can hear us now? No you can't hear us.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
You can't hear rius. No, no, she still can't hear it.
So it's probably a setting that she got to sit
on her phone make sure that she can hear it.
Sometimes you gotta change in it on the phones. It's
hard to work on.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Uh. She froze again. So there you go. Can you
hear us?

Speaker 7 (54:57):
You can go?

Speaker 4 (54:57):
There?

Speaker 3 (54:58):
You go go ahead, lady, Yes, Dad, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I was talking about that. We were talking about how,
you know, the the how us ladies like our me
time and running. It was bass and stuff like that.
So I said, when I saw the skin, the skincare
and candle stuff, I said, that's the first thing I
thought about. So I wanted to I was just checking
out your website and really wanted to hear more about

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how you started, how you got started in creating some
of this awesomeness.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Again, Wow, keeps freezing and keeps freezing. Yeah, she's going
to be like that until she gets off, and so
what So what we'll do right now? We'll jump right
into our So I just asked, lady has thought Earlier
before Bella Rose came on about voting.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
And importance of voting, why it's.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Important, why it's important to use our voice. The reason
I brought that up, and it looks like she back on.
Let me see we try again one more again. Let's
give her a chance. You can hear she thumbs up,
she can hear us and everything now.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
So here, So there we go.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
So pretty much the question was before like the interruption,
which is okay, we always had this technical difficulties.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Right, But one of the questions was is we love
you know, well, the ladies off in times love to
get in the you know, the bathtub and you know,
like the candles and smell a lot good.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
So what got you.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Into what got you into that?

Speaker 6 (56:34):
You know exactly what she said, See we want to smell?
Did we want to let did we want to feel good?

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Right?

Speaker 11 (56:45):
So when we first started, we started off with beauty estate,
so she was it was before the skincare. We started
off with make that product. Alden BP only first joined.
We were trying to get everybody into the clothing but
it just wasn't working. So we would pack our stuff
up and take our clothes to.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
The strip clubs in Atlanta and that works.

Speaker 11 (57:09):
So but when we went to the strip clubs in Atlanta,
everybody wanted to make up lyn lixkick, So we you know,
we was like, okay, well we got a pigot and
we started selling lipstick Lynch Laws and I hired makeup
artists from the.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
Strip club to work for me.

Speaker 11 (57:26):
And at the time, I had a publicist that was
working for reality stars. So what I did was connect
the makeup artists with the reality stars. And once I
made that connection, you know, we just got really popular
and the reality stars were shout out Bella Rose Passion.
This was before post charge and you know, everybody wanted

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to see what the product was about. And then we
got onto the we got onto the Steve Harvey Show.
Once we got onto the Steve Hart Harvey Show, I
wanted to do more.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
I didn't want to just keep on searching for you know,
what's next.

Speaker 11 (58:06):
So once I said I wanted to do more, I
connected with the producers with the Steve Harvey Show and
they helped me see how to structure a brand deal,
which was with Walmart. And that's how we took our
next step, and that was with the skincare products.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Our first two products of Walmart was lotion and body
washed and now we have forty two products for Walmart.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Wow, that's amazing. So what is your actual site where
if people can go to look for your products. There
we go, what is your actual site where people can
go to look for your products?

Speaker 12 (58:43):
It is Bella Rolls, Passion D E L A R
O S E. P As and paul A s s
io n dot com.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
And we also sell two of our exclusive uniform products
with Starget.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
With Target. Yeah, what are your unicorn products?

Speaker 11 (59:09):
So we have unicorn lit butter and we also have
unicorn shade butter, our unicorn yates. Yeah, our Unicorn shade
butters is our top number one sellers. It's expecially exclusively
with Target because when we get to pitch, Target wanted
to full Unicorn collection. And one thing that I do,

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you know right now, I'm mentor a lot of people
that want to go into retail because we jump at
their chance to go into retail, but we don't understand
how those deals are structured, and they will try to
take over and try to take you know, Okay, well
this brand belongs to me type of things.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
But I was able to structure a brand deal with Target.

Speaker 11 (59:46):
During a pandemic where I own one hundred percent of
my products, so all proceeds go directly to me and
Target and I have a deal with My products are
exclusively with them and not with any other retailler.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Oh you have some products, so okay, So you don't
have the same products in the same in different stories.
That's smart, okay, And I'm sure they like that too,
because they're like, okay, we just got to come to us,
just your stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Okay, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Bell Rose.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Now you talked about celebrities, like celebrities and influencers, they
embrace your products. How do you cultivate those relationships, like,
how do you in what role do they play in
your in your brand's growth? We lose her, Yeah, she's
about to let us know.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
Oh there we go still okay, so yeah I'm here.

Speaker 11 (01:00:53):
So when I first started meeting a few of the
reality stars, I was kind of like, okay, well this
is nice.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
But when they started.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Promoting mm hmmm, we lost her?

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
Can we lost?

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
There? We are so you guys will help me? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 11 (01:01:20):
So I realized how important that resource was to me
if I got connected with reality stars or celebrities. So
I think my first encounter was with Cynthia Belly from
the Housewives of Atlanta and then she posted a lot
of you know her fans were like on the website

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purchasing a lot. And then my next big you know
what at this time, my next big celebrity that got
me a lot of.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
Sales was band from Love and Hip Hop.

Speaker 11 (01:01:51):
Banby posted it randomly like I knew her makeup artists
and I would drop her makeup artists off some of
my lip glosses. So Banby randomly just posted, you know,
this is a beautiful day for some beller Rose fashion
lip closs. And my PayPal was going crazy and I
didn't understand why because I didn't even talk to her,
like we had no relationship at all. So PayPal locked

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my account because I made so much money, and they
didn't understand how that happened. They thought it was a spin.
So that was yeah, and that was, you know, so
long ago. But at the time I didn't understand how
to handle that. I didn't understand I was still writing
people names or shipping labels and everything, so I didn't

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understand how to handle that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
But has been.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
When we started in part.

Speaker 11 (01:02:45):
Sure and when they were able to get our products
in front of their fans, It's like there wasn't like
their fans still currently purchased petically and that's what I love,
like their fans. It's a way to get with the
small any small businesses, if you want to grow and
get your stuff in front of somebody else. I will

(01:03:07):
definitely do influencer marketing, but it definitely has to make sense,
like it has to financially make this. So many these
influencers charged like eight thousand and you don't even make
like fifty dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
That doesn't make sense that all. But now yeah, now
they have TikTok shop. Yeah yeah, but now they have
TikTok shops.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Do you have anything that stock shop?

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Absolutely? All my products touch up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Yeah, the Unicorn lipt butter is that like the lip bong?

Speaker 6 (01:03:46):
Yes, it is so thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I don't even know how to use it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
So many people that purchase they're like, I don't even
want to touch it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I'm like, this is gore. It's so pretty.

Speaker 11 (01:03:59):
It's absolutely and it's peppermints skim it, so you know,
peppermint pumps and lips, and it also helps it. Yeah,
the peppermint infuses your lips so that it stays moisturized
all day long, so you have hydrated lips all day
long a lot of times. You know, we talk a
lot and drink a lot. We do a lot of things,
so our lips can be hydrated. Especially if we wear
lipstick and liptilosses, our lips kick dehydrated. So I put

(01:04:21):
it on before I put my lipt gloss on, and
it keeps my lips.

Speaker 7 (01:04:24):
Uh uh oh.

Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
I lost the lost the airybody to me in a moment,
every guy, Okay, I'm back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
How did you come up with this idea for the
I mean now, I think you want to call unicorn back?
This idea? Can you hear us?

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
I can hear it?

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
An you guys hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah? So, as I'm looking at the unicorn lip butter,
I was asking, how did you come up the idea?
Because like, how oh she can.

Speaker 7 (01:05:05):
Yeah, if you guys hear me? Yes, okay, I'm back.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
You guys can hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Can you hear us?

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
We can hear you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
Talking?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, we can hear you. I think she can hear us. Okay,
it was going mute and then I like to see
it popping back and forth and all.

Speaker 11 (01:05:55):
I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yes, yeah, we never lost you Can you hear us?

Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
Are you? Can you guys hear me, yes, I hear sound.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Yeah, yeah, she might have to come out and come back.
It's hard when they're moving because you know she's on
the train, so it's going to keep going now and
she has those dead spots.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Yeah, okay, that's sorry, no time, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Sometimes we always had those technical difficulties, and so what
we'll probably do is uh have her like just yeah,
have her back. It looks like she's coming from Trenton.
She's on her way from where.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
I didn't ask, she said she was going on her
way to Trenton.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Okay, So because we might have to have her on
the show. Well, where where where are you from?

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
You said? Where am I?

Speaker 12 (01:07:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Where are you from?

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
Oh? I'm pretty Jersey? You're from Jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
How about how about how about we do this? Would
you come to the show in Philly?

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
How about you staying in Philly? I wish, I wish
I would have known.

Speaker 11 (01:07:19):
Because I'm actually staying in Philly at Rivers Casino. But
I go I fly back to Georgia tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Oh, because we're in Philly coming to the studio tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
Yeah yeah right here, y'all right? Here she's going.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
But all of which is coming from.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Ye right.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
Right exactly. And I could have I could have actually
came to y'all today. I could have Rivers Casino.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
You said, like, you're right here.

Speaker 11 (01:07:53):
I'm staying right, the girl, girl, I'm staying right. I
love that hotel, the River, I love that hotel. But
I would love to come, you know, get this your guys,
you know I would love to make a trick. I'm
always back and forth from Jersey to Georgia, and I
would love to come, you know, do a live interview.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Yeah, make us make a pet stop in Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, because I think I think it's not doing I
think this interview isn't doing you justice. Because one, I
think you absolutely beautiful, right yeah, and I love your
energy and I would want you actually with us.

Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
I'm here, I'm here.

Speaker 11 (01:08:34):
So we were supposed to connect before, and I know
we had to push you back. So I would love
to do a live interview.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yeah, yeah, sure, So why don't we do this, right,
We'll get back with your agent or your your publicism.
We'll see how we can arrange for you to come
into the studio and you can bring whoever you want
and we'll have you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Why don't you just do a full show with us.
It's two hours. You come and do a full show
with us. I can make that happen. I can make that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Because I feel kind of bad that we keep getting
cut off and bumped off and the reception is really bad.
But what I what I can promise because this is
my show, so I can do what I want to do, right, Okay,
So so what we will do is next time you
were around, come to the show and we'll do a
full show with you here. All right, I just got

(01:09:25):
promise to bring you some good Yep, you probably can't
bring me a goodie.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
But the ladies, the ladies here.

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
Because we sell candles. We sell it all and men
love our stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Okay, I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
All right.

Speaker 11 (01:09:40):
We have we have a date night candle for the
men to get into their women to let them know
what comedy is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
I love that. I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Yes, well, well we love that, and I love you, right,
and so I'm gonna make sure that next time we
can arrange in your around. We're gonna bring you to
the show directly, all right, and you're gonna be one
of our co hosts for the night.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:10:06):
I'm here for it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
I'm here for it, alright, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
So we're gonna let Beller Rose go so she can
get home. And I want you to be safe, right,
I want you safe, and we'll promise to have you back.
So I want you guys to go anywhere. When we
come back, we're gonna talk a little bit more. We
have Bello Roads on, but I don't want you all
to go anywhere. We'll be right back after this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Why don't you tell everywhere before we let you go?

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Why don't you tell everybody how they can get in
contact with you and see all that little stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:10:33):
Yeah, So if you want to, please follow on Instagram
at beller Rose Passion dot com, where you can follow
me at Bella Rose Underscore c E L.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
And you can go to the website bell Rose Passion
dot co. Or you can search for our products at
Walmart dot com, Targe dot com and just put it
and you'll find all of our products.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
I love it real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Where can they find your your your rings and your glasses?

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Because I like all of that.

Speaker 12 (01:11:00):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
I love it, I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
So again, we love you and you're more than your
friend to the show. So once you come to the show,
you are friends who you always welcome to come back.
We can't wait for you to come to the show,
and we're going to make it a nice one.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:11:22):
Oh I love you guys, Thank you so much time.
I know it's been crazy connection, so I appreciate your patient.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Fantastic, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Don't go nowhere, y'all will be right back afterday.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
What's going on you, guys? This is Briga Kelly and
you are lockedantasy talk weekly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
We talked weeklies after the talking the w P P
m l P Philadelphia one o six point five. That's
when we talked weeklies after the talk with your boy
Charles Gurdy and beautiful classic beautiful, and we are here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Uh, you already know what's coming up next.

Speaker 8 (01:12:26):
We got that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
She had to you don't want good news?

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Yes, sure you got good news.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
You're ready for something subconsciously trying, man, I know right,
that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
You know that's mom. So you ready for me? I'm ready, alight,
give it to me early, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
All right.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
Gentrification and wes Philly is making it harder for long
time residents to stay in their homes because guess what's
about to happen. Property texts are going to go up.
Mayor Cheryl Parker announced that homeowners will see an average
increase on the three hundred and thirty dollars on their
tax build de mandatory on property reevaluations. For many in

(01:13:07):
this historical black and brown community, where wages have been
kept pace for the cost of living, the increase feels
like an added burden. Although the mayor emphasizes that the
extra funds will support public schools, residents are worried about
how they'll manage the rising costs. They feel like it
won't be enough to protect those at most risks. So

(01:13:30):
homes will become more valuable on paper, but the very
people who build their communities might be priced out, losing
not just their homes but their sense of belonging. The
gentrification process, coupled with rising property taxes, specifically in the
West and Southwest Philadelphia area, push long time residents out.
The mayor's approach, through though legally mandated, raises concerns about

(01:13:53):
equity and the protection of marginalized communities in the face
of economic pressures, it's hard to ignore the human told
on those who could least afford it. What do y'all
think about that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Southwest and West Phillies.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
Even if you're in the I don't think it's it's
called homestead or tax abated abatement. They're saying to you
if you're on a fixed income or anything. They're saying
that the city has either been paying taxes for the
people or really haven't. No one's been paying and now
they have to go up on the price.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
That makes sense. People aren't paying their taxes. People do
not pay their house taxes, and they and then it
gets higher and higher and higher, and then it's like
then they're upset when they're getting pushed out. But there
are so many people who don't pay it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
But at the same time, if you peel back them layers,
it's like, why they're not paying? Is it resources for
the right type of jobs? Has minimum rage been minimum
wage been raised? Like it's almost like what's the one
is a byproduct? But what's the primary cause? You know
what I'm saying, Like they going up on taxes, but

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nobody's nobody's getting other kind of resources.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Like I think it's are there more jobs available? I
think it's a mix of not being able to afford it,
and then the ones that get it and put it
aside and say I'm gonna take care of because it's right.
It's a billion once a year. It's like, I'm gonna
get to it right. And now I don't know where
it's at.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
But even if you think about what Cheryl Parker making,
everybody go back into the city. You gotta pay for sapting.
Now you gotta pay for childcare like money that you said, okay,
I can, I'll try to allocate it to that. But
now you're in struggle mode. You're trying to get the work.
Now you gotta eat. You gotta either take your lunch,
you gotta pay for lunch.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
So it's like, yeah, it's not new, what's not No,
what having to go to work is not new. You
had a break from having to do it for two years.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
But now no, no, no, we're not gonna talk. We're
not gonna say break because it was in a break.
It wasn't a break. Yeah, the world went through that
wasn't a break.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
No, No, what happened if you were accustomed to getting up,
going to work every day and getting on set to
and packing your lunch or whatever, the you were in
that routine. You're probably in that routine for ten twenty
thirty years, so then to not have to do it
for two three years and now have to go back
to it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
But businesses were still productive. And on the other side,
it's like they're doing it for their benefit because they
want you to pour more money into the city. It's
like so many people already have remote jobs like Google, y'allhoo,
the silicone people, and then now common folk. Common folk
now started to work from home, and they like, oh,

(01:16:33):
y'all getting too comfortable, because honestly that people were being
more productive. You know, you do have that that that
small pod of people who weren't doing what they were
supposed to do. But you know, consequences make them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Come back in.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
But whatever it is, they're telling you to come back
in not for you, not for your you know, work balance,
but for them, for the company.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yeah, so that's why.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
So I think that's to the point of y'all telling
us that you you're rising things. But what are they
given to the to you know, to civilians, Like what
are they given to common folks?

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Chicken and Pete's French fries a one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
Agree with, Yeah, all right, that wasn't good news. Clearly,
this this, this is not good news.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
But I guess how you look at it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
So a few months ago I shared the story of
a tragic incident where sixty year old woman in Florida
she shot and killed a black mother in front of
her children. I don't know if y'all remember that story.
The heartbreaking event started with a disagreement over the kids
playing outside, but it was quickly turned into something much
more serious. As I followed the trial, it was clear
that this was more than just a case of self defense.

(01:17:47):
A Florida jury found sixty year old Susan Lorentz guilty
of manslaughter with a firearm, killing thirty five year old
a Jockey Owens, known as aj.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
She was a black mother.

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
The shooting occurred. The shooting and curd question. Shooting occurred
after Owens knocked on Lawrence door during a dispute about
the children playing near her home. Near Lawrence Home. Lowrenz
claims that it was self defense, saying that she feared
that Owens would break in and attack her. However, the
prosecution argued that Owens was unarmed and that lorenz action

(01:18:23):
showed reckless disregard for life. As the verdict was Readren Lorenz,
I hope, I think I'm pronouncing her name right. Lawrence
remained emotional emotionalless while Owen's family was devastated. The defense
argued that Lorenz has health issues and she lives alone
and had to protect herself, but the prosecution kept pushing

(01:18:46):
that this deadly force was not justified. The case was
ignited discussions on Florida's self defense laws. That's what them
Floridians think that that self defense law is helped.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Is going to help them up.

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
So the discussion on Florida self defense laws and racial bias.
Lorenz face is up to thirty years in prison and
she's waiting U for sentence him to be scheduled. Crump
is their lawyer. Yeah, yeah, this was a When I
covered this story, it was four kids who they live

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in like an apartment complex, and they were playing outside
and then there somebody threw like their balls or something
football or something and it went in her uh, on
her lawn. And she was just one of those older women.
I mean, you grew up with them that just don't
want the kids around, don't feel like being bothered like
the old cat. That'd be like, don't pet me, but
you take a gun. No, that's what they're saying. But

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the mother came over and was just you know, knocked
on the door, and she I think she shot through
the door the door.

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Yeah, So that's how there's no defense with that. She
wasn't directly in front of you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
It was a door that you shot from, So I
don't know how you can defend it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
Yeah, she didn't come through the door. You could have
just not answered pretty much, all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Right, So how about you call the cops if you're
that scared?

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Mm hmm, right, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
She was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
She was in the house and shot shot through through
the door. Oh, I'm thinking the person outside shot inside.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
The older the old lady, the white lady, six year old.
She was in her house. The mother came and knocked
on the door and she admired.

Speaker 7 (01:20:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
Hm, crazy, Yeah, all right. This next story is Glenn Simmons,
who holds the grim record of the longest time incarcerated
before being exonerated in the US history. He has reached
a partial sediment with Edmund Oklahoma, nearly fifty years after
his wrongful conviction. Years wow, fifty years.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
I hope whatever number you say has fifty in it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Yeah, yeah, fifty years. Simmons who was just twenty two
years old at the time of his incarceration, and I
think I told you how old he is on seventy one.
So Simmons, who was just twenty two years old at
the time of his incarceration, spent a staggering forty eight
years behind bars, that's like nineteen seventy six before being

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wrongfully convicted the murder of Carolyn Rodgers, who was killed
at an Edmund liquor store in nineteen seventy four. You
have the color of her, she's a white woman, yeap.
Despite lacking physical evidence linking him to the crime scene,
now you heard that part. There was no physical evidence

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linking him to the crime scene, and he had multiple
alibi witnesses. The Edmund City Council agreed to a seven
point two settlement million dollar settlement, so he got seven
point two million through the settlement came without an admission

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of liability. Simmons, who is now seventy one, has been
living with cancer since twenty twenty one. He plans to
use the settlement funds to continue his treatment and improve
his quality of life. So District Judge Amy Pallable's ruling
confirms Simmons innocent and stating that the court finds by

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clear and convincing evidence that the offense for which mister
Simmons was convicted was not committed by mister Simmons. His attorney,
Elizabeth Wang, noted mister Simmons spent a tragic amount of
time incarcerated for a crime that he did not commit,
emphasizing the profound injustice Simmons endured despite the financial compensation.

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Simon reflects that what happened can't be undone, but there
can be accountability, and remains uncertain that the future as
he awaits ongoing claims against other defendants.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
What what color was the judge?

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
Do you know in nineteen seventy four? No, this new judge,
I'm not sure, but it looks like District Judge Amy
Pala Palumbo's p A l U N b O. S.
Palumbo's so. And then his lawyer name is Elizabeth Wang, So.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Shout out to her. What was the judge name?

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Let me google her real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
The judge name is Amy Amy Palumbo p A l
U M b O. Yeah, l P A l U
m b o yep, Amy Palumbo.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Yeah, it looks like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Let me let me put judge in front of it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
Judge Amy Plumbo looks like Edmund Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Yes, it looks like she's of the Caucasian persuasion. And
I am extremely thankful for her for wrong, for writing
a wrong So thank you for that, Amy Palombo, Amy right, Amy, Yeah,
Amy Palombo, thank you for that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
And miss Wang right, Elizabeth Wang his attorney, his attorney,
thank you for that. You know, when you said, you know,
fifty years, it should be a fifty in there, I
mean it should be somewhere stated you get a million
dollars every year something. I mean, there's no there's people
who've been exonerated. Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
My sister she has united first did you say you
get got seventy one point he said million, he got
seven point seven yeah, yeah, seven point two million dollars
seven point two yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:24:55):
And he's been in there for fifty years.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
So in Pennsylvania, had that's not enough enough.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
Pennsylvania xuneries, it's in the bylaws or whatever it is.
They do not get paid. It's other states that if
you get exonerated and you didn't commit the crime. They
pay you, they have like their amount. Pennsylvania does not
have that. So you can let people go and say oh,
we're sorry and don't give them a dime.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
They can just be bad.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
They're gonna they can, you know, take it to civil court.
But it doesn't guarantee that they'll get paid. But how
are you going to say I was wrong and not
giving money.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
You give them money, but to me, it's not it's
never enough.

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
Never, but at least you're getting something. Pennsylvania or Philadelphia,
they don't get nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
That's never nothing because time you can't get bad time. Yeah,
you go in at twenty two, twenty two, your seventies,
your life is gone. It's gone.

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
Yea at this point and he has cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Yeah, at this point, you have to pay me because
I need I don't have no no social Security and
no pension and nothing. If they paid you enough, so
you have to pay me just so I can live
the rest of my life.

Speaker 5 (01:26:01):
If they paid nothing and still said that they're exonerated.
They feel like you should just be happy we letting
you go for a crime you didn't even commit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Yeah, yeah, a million a year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
How did they so do we know how they found
out he didn't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
I'm not sure, but there are processes that people who
are on death row that they have someone else look
at it and comb it, and I'm quite sure that
that may have happened with him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
So they it's this show that I love watching all
those crime shows, but there's one that what they've been
doing is they picked a handful of cases. And I
don't know how they picked these cases, but they pick
a handful of cases from years ago, right because technology
has advanced so much. Because back then, you know, they
did the dust and the fingerprints and stuff like that,

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but that was it. DNA is very new, so stuff
that happened in the seventies, DNA wasn't the thing then
where they could look for. So now they have like
a handful of cases that they pick and they're pulling
them back open and then they're checking actual DNA and
stuff like that, and they're finding out that people that
they've charged are not were not the real murderers or whatever,

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or you know, and that's how a lot of this
stuff is unfolding. But I don't know how they select
the cases. And in situations like that where someone feels
or knows they didn't do something. I feel like that's
the first that they should be.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Like, hello me over here.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
They have something called the Project Redo Mine. They have
something called the Project Innocence or Innocent Project, and they
have a system where if you're on death row, I
think after five years or something, somebody outside of the
state is supposed to look at it, which would non
biased eyes and then comb through it. Which in his case,
when you ask me, how did they find out? They

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found it because suppressed evidence that had been hitten for decades,
just included to Swardine's alibis he had. They didn't take
none of his alibis, none of his witnesses into consideration,
although they took.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Witnesses from the other side.

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
Yeah, and there was no physical evidence, so no physical evidence,
nothing that linked him to it. I guess they just
saw a body of black man a white woman dad.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
So this was the good news that he was out. Yeh,
got check what sparks. I'm not gonna do it like that.
He out and got his seven point two million No
that right there.

Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
I don't know because I know he like, yo, that's yeah.
I think it should be a million a year.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
His story alone was good news and bad Yeah, you
ain't get that much break. Somebody needs to put that
back up. See you had to I know her good
news bad news sign went on the side. You got
the good news they had facing the bad news the front.
We need to start having people vote which one they

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