January 31, 2025 • 55 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Surprise.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, hello, welcome to the bonus episode of What Happens
in the Woods. We had three Fridays this month. I
know I'm not the usual voice I usually hear, but
we had some things that were planned. They didn't pan out.
I'm pretty sure they.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Still will more to come on.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So we've decided to release our Patreon episodes. For those
of you that did support us on Patreon, thank you.
And you've heard this before, but maybe we'll readlift some
memories together. So we're releasing the first episode of our
WTF series on Patreon to the public. So this for
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some of you, this is the first time you're going
to hear this. I told Jess you guys weren't ready
for this. So it's it's our lighter side. And I'm
sure you guys have heard, you know, our previous ones,
but these are being released. This is being released the
first time. So I hope you guys enjoy it, and
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then we'll see you the first Friday of February for
a new episode. Enjoy everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
What Happens in the Woods is a true crime podcast.
We discuss events that are often violent in nature. Listeners
discretion is advised. Mate what Ranka wrote this, have you
heard this podcast? Jess just drones on and on, talking
and talking blah blah blah. Bryce just says okay and ah,
(02:02):
don't get me started on Mara and Olivia. Shit was
still recording, Bryce, cue the music.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Welcome to wt Wednesday. Half an hour of Drew Crime Stories.
It's the finest fuckery. Now here is your host Jess
with Drew Crime Stories that'll make you say, what the fuck?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
We'll welcome and hello, where are you giggling? Already?
Speaker 7 (02:32):
What?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's a song?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's while I heard the song?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Oh stop it all right? Well, you guys have made
it to the inaugural Patreon episode of the WTFS. Let
the fuckery officially begin.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yay yay.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
So we're all here and ready to go. Joining us
today are Olivia. That was perfect And of course you
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cannot forget Maura. Hello, mother, Hello everybody, And we have
Cass Hellos and we have our special guest making her
debut of parents on the podcast. Whether it be WTFS
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or regular season, we have with us Hayley.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I didn't I'll have it in Oh wait, God.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Who knows where that's from? I know we all know
what that's about.
Speaker 8 (04:04):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
Okay, I'm very excited, very excited. He's so excited, very excited,
very excited. All right, And of course Bryce, hello, who
still doesn't have music?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I don't want one.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
I don't know how that. I mean, that just doesn't work.
It does No, not really, not really? All right? Are
you ready to dive into this?
Speaker 10 (04:40):
When?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Do we have any updates or we just want to
get into it?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
What updates? This is Patreon, Barry.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Let's go right into it.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Ready, just for the patriots.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Just for the patriots. Oh okay, nails.
Speaker 11 (05:10):
Wow, okay, with like my finger over my ear.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
A star is in the making, y'all. You've brought it
first here, So I lied. The first story is an
update of sorts. I think everybody's gonna remember us covering
this in a WTF or you've you know heard of this.
So this infamous and mysterious case from the Pacific Northwest.
(05:42):
I am referring to dB Cooper, the gentleman who hijacked
a plane on its way to Seattle from Portland and
then parachuted out with about two hundred thousand dollars that
he demanded in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was gonna say that was in the seventies.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Right, Yeah, So there have been many years of discussion
and many people have speculated on the identity of this man,
and it still to this day is unresolved. What is fun?
Why what your face? She's just excited, She's excited. So
(06:24):
recently this made news again after a man in Arizona
reportedly is suing the FBI to gain access to sealed
evidence files. A CNN article reported that Eric Ulyss from Phoenix, Arizona,
has spent quote countless hours scouring tens of thousands of
FBI documents on Cooper for any details federal agents may
(06:47):
have missed end quote. The FBI officially closed this case
in twenty sixteen, after I mean, how many decades they
had no leads that panned out, So it just kind
of died, you know. So Uless has become like this
(07:08):
expert on dB Cooper. He wrote an ebook that is
going to be released this month titled Silver Bullet, The
Undoing of dB Cooper. In twenty twenty, he hosted the
premiere episode of a show titled History's Greatest Mysteries on
the History Channel, and then just last year, he was
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part of a twenty twenty two Netflix series that was
titled D B. Cooper, Where Are You? And possibly the
most exciting project that this gentleman has been involved in
is Cooper Cohn. So he has started a con convention
in twenty eighteen quote at which fans of the hijacker
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gathered to discuss elements of the case in granular detail.
Speaker 12 (07:58):
Obsessed too, I just.
Speaker 13 (08:02):
We've got a lot of time on him.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I don't famous.
Speaker 13 (08:05):
I can't decide.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
It's just a fan. He's like a fan, and he
like is an amateur sleuth who just who deep dives
into this and wants to solve it.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
I just he should sorry, go ahead, Hey he should,
you know, make.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
A list A list, Yeah, a list of of I'm
sure he probably has a list. In fact, I think
he has like a notebook that he writes down things into.
So yeah, that's good.
Speaker 11 (08:31):
I just think that maybe his time is being focused
on some wrong things here.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
I mean, would you not want to be the one
who cracks this case?
Speaker 12 (08:40):
That that's one.
Speaker 11 (08:41):
Thing I will agree with that that would be pretty
damn cool.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
But the kN con type and the.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Fucking the book with the most used name ever, the
Unraveling or whatever the.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
The undoing the silver Bullet. I don't really get what
that means. Silver bullet, the undoing of D. B.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Cooper.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
I don't really understand. I mean the title, but.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I guess he's looking for the silver bullet to like
I guess salt crack the case.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But my question, I mean, who's that it? Marw Like?
I feel like he has like a lot of time
on his hands. So my question is is he a
trust fund baby? And if so, sir, and if you
are a trust fun baby, what's what gidding? What?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Like?
Speaker 7 (09:33):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I don't think he is. I'm not really sure in
this economy, right, I don't know this man. I think
it's just like his you know what I mean?
Speaker 11 (09:48):
Some people, what's the conspiracy theory of this Cooper dude?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
So the background is that he boarded this plane. Actually
it's Dan Cooper was the name on the ticket, but
somehow there was like an error in a news reporting
of it. Now he's dB Cooper, which is like more seductive,
right deep Cooper Cooper?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Right?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
So Dan Cooper boarded a flight from Portland to Seattle
one way ticket. He gets on with just a bag,
no checked luggage, and in the bag is basically explosives,
and he hijacks the plane. They land in Seattle and
he's like, Okay, the crew, I need two hundred thousand dollars.
(10:41):
I'll let the people off the plane. The crew's going
to take me to Mexico. So they get him the
two hundred thousand dollars. He lets the people off the plane,
but the crew does, like you know, they lift off
and they're on their way back down coming down south,
and he parachutes out the plane with the money and
(11:03):
he was like and he like literally never was found.
So they recovered some of the money, but they have
never recovered it remains or like anything that was definitive
that could be.
Speaker 11 (11:21):
I'm guessing, like what happened is what if he changed
his names like so many times.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
But they don't. Yeah, they don't think Dan Cooper was
his real name because back in the day, you didn't
have to show any idea or anything.
Speaker 14 (11:34):
He got a ticket, I want to say, like, because
there was this case of back in like the eighties seventies,
I think, where this man stole his stepdaughter and changed
their names like eight ten times.
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Oh yeah, we're never caught, right, And so I'm wondering
if like that was kind of like the same.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Maybe, yeah, I mean it was a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know. That's kind of what I miss about those
days is that you really could just like disappear. You know,
you just walk in get a job. You didn't have
to show a Social Security card. You could just disappear
with two hundred grand after jumping out of a plane.
Speaker 13 (12:17):
And that was that, and that was that and you
can live your life.
Speaker 15 (12:21):
I just I get how like elusive and you know,
everyone would love to be dB Cooper who got away
with this and it's just so cool. But I just
I don't know, like a whole con and when you
were really into this, man.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
How many people are going to show up? Like four people?
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Non literally? Okay. So he recently made news because he
was asking that the FBI really like retest using DNA
testing an item that was left behind when Cooper parachuted
out of the plane. So he took off his clip
on tie that had a tie clip on it and
(13:03):
he may have touched it right. So it was confirmed
that this clip was sold by J C. Pennies. Doesn't
they don't know where which JAC Pennies he would have
purchased it at but there was some DNA testing on
that item with no results. But he believes that the
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part of the clip that would hold answers was not tested,
so like the metal hinge was not tested. So he
is basically he's requesting that the FBI retests this piece.
(13:46):
So this month, actually, in case anybody is interested, Ulis
is conducting a search near a part of the Columbia
River where like in Washington where there was fifty eight
hundred dollars of the ransom money was found in nineteen eighty,
They're going to do out do a group search out
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there trying to find the parachute.
Speaker 11 (14:11):
Just I guess that would be so ruined by now, yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
I mean yeah, And I mean this was the nineteen eighties.
We're forty years removed from that at this point.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So who is she?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I don't know, I don't know, but yeah, there's a
search going on at the end of this month. So
I mean, if anybody is interested, I will link his
website and who knows, you may catch me out there
trying to find this parachute, because I am not gonna lie.
I'm a little bit.
Speaker 10 (14:40):
At this moment that he knew he fucked up.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Who fucked up.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That's wrong. Button quick.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Oh, I'm not going out there.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
That might be my birthday. Well, we'll see when that falls.
When that hits, yeah, maybe that's what I'll do this
year to celebrate my birthday is to go out on
the Columbia River and search for a parachute from nineteen
eighty Good.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Luck and God bless with pop.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I mean, I tried to buy us a kayak earlier
this year.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
She said, no, I want kayaking in October. You you
got me fucked up?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Why do you want a kayak?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's fun, it'll be fun.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, that's another that's another story. Thank you under the water.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
That's between you and mal.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
No.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
All right, our next story is a little different. So
stay with me.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
Here.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Will I read you a story that I found. This
is the story of Ronald Opus.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
For a second, I thought you were gonna say Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Ronald Reagan, he was for president. All right, Here is
the story. On March twenty third, nineteen ninety four, medical
examiner viewed the body of Ronald Opus and concluded that
he died from a gunshot wound of the head caused
by a shotgun. Investigation to that point had revealed that
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the descendant had jumped from the top of a ten
story building with the intent to commit suicide. In parentheses
here it says he left a note indicating his despondency.
As he passed the ninth floor on the way down,
his life was interrupted by a shotgun blast through a window,
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killing him instantly. Neither the shooter nor the descendant were
aware that a safety net had been erected at the
eighth floor level to protect some window washers, and that
the descendant would most likely not have been able to
complete his intent to commit suicide because of this. Ordinarily,
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a person who sets out to commit suicide and ultimately succeeds,
even if the mechanism might not be what they intended,
is defined as having committed suicide. That he was shot
on the way to certain death nine stories below probably
would not change his mode of death from suicide to homicide,
but the fact that his suicide intent would not have
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been achieved under any circumstances, because the medical examiner felt
that he had committed homicide, that he had homicide on
his hands. Sorry, that sentence is a little convoluted, basically
because the intent was there, but he wouldn't have been
(17:37):
able to be successful. Because of the net it now
becomes homicide. Further investigation led to the discovery that the
room on the ninth floor, whence where the shotgun blast emanated,
was occupied by an elderly man and his wife. He
was threatening her with this shotgun because of an interspousal
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spat came so upset that he could not hold the
shotgun straight. Therefore, when he pulled the trigger, he completely
missed his wife and the pellets went through the window,
striking Ronald opis bruh.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Really he missed his wife to kill someone else.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
He should not kill his wife.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
No, he shouldn't kill his wife. Well, okay, I'm not
done though. So when one intends to kill subject A,
that kills subject B in the attempt, when is guilty
of the murder of subject B. The old man was
confronted with this conclusion, but both he and his wife
were adamant in stating that neither knew that the shotgun
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was loaded, and it was the longtime habit of the
old man to threaten his wife with an uploaded or
an unloaded sorry unloaded shotgun habit. Habit had no intent
to murder her. Why therefore the killing him the descendant
appeared then to be an accident. That is, the gun
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had been accidentally loaded.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
Who the ghost of Pasper It's coming.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I think the reason why he lies is because he
just doesn't want to get caught.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Well, yeah, I agree, honey. But further investigation turned up
a witness that their son was seen loading the shotgun
approximately six weeks prior to the fatal accident. That investigation
showed that the mother had cut off her son's financial support,
and her son, knowing the propensity of his father to
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use the shotgun, threateningly loaded the gun with the expectation
that the father would shoot his mother. The case now
becomes one of murder on the part of the son
for the death of Ronald Opis. Now comes the exquisite twist.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Now it comes.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Further investigation revealed that the sun was Ronald Opis himself.
What the fuck? He had become increasingly despondent over the
failure of his attempt to get his mother murdered. This
led to the jump off of the ten story building
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on March twenty third, only to be killed by a
shotgun blast through a ninth story window. The medical examiner
closed the case as suicide.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
What fucking lifetime movie.
Speaker 13 (20:48):
That would have been a great movie, to be.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Honest, honestly right, just throw a toaster in about Tvin
call to day. We should not encourage that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Don't do that.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
But what I'm yes, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Don't do that. No, what the dog doing?
Speaker 13 (21:11):
What is anyone doing?
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Oh my god, how many times I fucking heard that that.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
That sounds from Alec?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
What the dog doing?
Speaker 7 (21:21):
He literally is saying that to his friends all the
damn time.
Speaker 13 (21:24):
I'm so annoyed by it.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Now triggered.
Speaker 15 (21:28):
Okay, well, don't load a shotgun in the hopes that
I don't know one of us.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
Stattoo this fucking dumb ass habit of waving again your
fucking wife.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I just how is that even acceptable? Way of like
having an argument?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
RU treat every gun as if it's.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Loaded, right, because it is what you're some things? Yeah,
this is nineteen ninety.
Speaker 11 (21:54):
Not okay, for it's not even acceptable anymore.
Speaker 16 (21:59):
You can't be just what the nineteen ninety four what
ears is the cutoff for this to be acceptable?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Sixteen twenty five?
Speaker 11 (22:07):
No, like you know how the girl was the housewife
in the fifties and she had to follow what the
guy did.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
So this happened in nineteen fifty two, it would be accepted.
Speaker 12 (22:17):
It wouldn't be acceptable.
Speaker 11 (22:18):
It would be a little bit more understandable if you're like, here,
here's societal norms.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Okay, yeah, yeah, not makes sense. Okay, but you got
to think if they were an elderly couple in the nineties,
they were from the fifties, Like that's theirs, that's their generation. Babies.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Wow, this entire story is so convoluted, Like I actually
had a really hard time keeping like sexual awareneshion awareness.
Speaker 16 (22:46):
Right aish awareness awareness, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Sorry, I can't speak probably, I mean at this point.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Yeah. So this case is talked about in many different
ways throughout the years, published in papers and magazines, and
discussed in chat rooms since its origination in nineteen ninety four.
This wild and crazy story is entirely fake false.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Really, yeah, it had to be.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah, how would that line up?
Speaker 7 (23:20):
They just want to keep it a secret, so battling
and not let anybody know.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
No, honey, it's a secret. Is just faked.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
It's fake.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
It's fake.
Speaker 13 (23:32):
Emotion.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You just put me through the whole.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
I just put you through that whole thing, so I
was not ready to bite this man. According to Wikipedia,
which is where I read the story from, this case
was originally told by Don Harper Mills, then the president
of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and a speech
at a banquet in nineteen eighty seven. After that, it
began to circulate and it was actually I came across it,
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and it was said that it was a factual story
until I found the Wikipedia page, which basically is it's
just an urban legend at this.
Speaker 13 (24:12):
Yeah, some point, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I guess, well, I was just about to say, I
guess that would be like a really cool like thought
experiment or something to like for like a medical medical
a medical a medical examiner, or like an investigator to
determine who actually is at fault for that.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
You mean, like those algebraic equations in the paragraphs that
would never happen in real life, but we were expected
in the tenth grade to figure out, yes, yeah, the
math doesn't math.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Right, it doesn't math. But like I'm just saying that
that would be like a fun little thought experiment, you
know whatever, Like a teaching moment.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
A teaching moment teaching don't wave a loaded shotgun at
your wife in a threat, and that's the teaching moment.
Do not unlive yourself by jumping off of a.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Also, don't load a shotgun and an expectation that it's
going to shoot your mother, right, you know?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I mean the thing is not only did he know
like my thing was, It's one thing to wave a
shotgun around and threaten. It's another thing to cock the
fucking thing, that's true, which he had to have done theoretically,
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if this were true, to shoot the person that jumped
off the roof like he would have had to have
actually been like, I'm gonna fucking kill you and there
you go. So it wasn't even just I'm threatening you
with it. I'm waving it around. I know there's nothing
in it like I'm I'm prepared to actually like aimed
(26:01):
at you, make sure that it's loaded and shoot the
fucking thing.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Well, maybe he shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
No, I agree, you should never do that.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
I agree because if you because if you do that,
then you're just acting like a joke, and you want.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
To be a joke, right, I guess he did want
to be a jerk. He woke up and he said,
I'm gonna be a jerk today.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He chose violent.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
He chose violence. Yeah, and it chows all right. Well,
now that I've caused the emotional damage. The next case
comes to us from out of Arkansas, ew Where, Arkansas, Arkansas,
where Samuel Hartman, aged thirty nine, was apprehended after having
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escaped prison a year earlier. They found Hartman at the
Quality Inn with his wife, his mom, and his mom's
boyfriend in Louisbourg, West Virginia.
Speaker 15 (26:58):
I'll just share a room.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Apparently. On August twelfth of twenty twenty two, Misty Hartman,
thirty nine, and the convict's mom, Linda Annette White, sixty one,
drove up to a field where Hartman was on work
detail at the East Arkansas Regional Unit Prison. Hartman was
serving time after being convicted of raping his fourteen year
old stepdaughter in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 13 (27:21):
Jesus Close.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
The two women fired upon the corrections officers guarding the
prisoners and provided cover while Hartman ran to get into
the truck that they were driving. The three then sped
off and made it to the Mississippi River, where they
abandoned the truck and they escaped the area on two
jet skis that had been stowed away for their getaway.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
This is a little coordinating time movie Bush.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I mean, honestly, I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Sorry Chekansas, but the sleeves a little too coordinated for
people from Arkansas.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Who knew that James Bond.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
That's what I'm thinking of, honest by movie.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Honestly, so on, the jet skis were found on the
other side of the river, on the Mississippi state side,
where it was reported that two women and a man
were seen abandoning them and just taking off and then
they went on the run for the last several months
before them. So the three of them were found along
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with Rodney Trent, age fifty two, the mom's boyfriend, at
this hotel, this inn, and all four were arrested. It
only lists the charges for Trent as felony charges of
harboring a sex offender and assisting the two women in
their jail break, but it was not clear what the
charges the wife and the mom will face. I'm sure
(28:44):
it's kind of probably some aiding and betting, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Pause, I'm so sorry. So the mom and his wife
helped him.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Escape, and his mom and his wife.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Okay, so his step mom daughter's mom helped him.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I am assuming, but I do not know. It could
have been from a pre They don't state that it
was her daughter that he was charged with rape.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, I mean either way, right.
Speaker 15 (29:21):
But I'm sorry, I'm not if y'all got convicted of
a sex cram. I'm sorry. I'm not standing by you
on that one. Certainly not bringing you out of prison.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
No, I might help you go there.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
I will assist in a different way.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
Push you into the door.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Yeah, okay, let's knock out to present.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
No, but if you bad, yeah.
Speaker 11 (29:56):
You deserve and and someone said you have to go
to prison, and then you have to go.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
If you did what you were being accused of doing,
then you need to go to prison. That's what your
that's what your punishment is. So the group was transported
back to Arkansas and they're sitting in jail awaiting sentencing buying. Yeah,
no fucks given, no fusgiven for that, no sympathy. I
(30:23):
just thought it was really funny that the two women
show up in the middle of a field and they're
open buyer. How you could have shot anybody like you
could have shot your son. The guy that you were.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Trying to the storm or school of shooting.
Speaker 11 (30:42):
Maybe they was somewhere.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
I mean, if you have good, good fucking aim and
nice steady hands, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Yeah, if you don't want to go to prison, then
don't do something bad.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Well yeah, thank you, Haley More. You know, some people
don't think no, some people don't don't think like that.
Speaker 11 (31:11):
Don't have that that conscious talking in their head.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
All right, and now it's time for cast is fun backs.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
What's back with you?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
For us and cass?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Okay, so air b.
Speaker 13 (31:39):
B b B, Well you got out voted.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, all right, we're gonna go with b. Okay, So
how often do you guys get like goosebumps?
Speaker 13 (31:55):
Honestly a lot lately.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Every time I wake up to my wife.
Speaker 15 (32:00):
That's scary.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Actually I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
That's kind of romantic.
Speaker 13 (32:07):
Hello, it does.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Well every two hours.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I don't know. Okay, from what I understand from this fact,
let me just say that, how would you like to
get goosebumps that last forever?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
No?
Speaker 11 (32:30):
Thanks?
Speaker 12 (32:31):
Bye?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right, okay, let me get to the fact. Me
stop sideshowing or whatever they say. Dead people can get goosebumps.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
How isn't that like a nerve ending thing?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So it's a from what I understand, it's like a
different method of getting goosebumps. So basically, when rigamortis, that's
your muscles can expand and contract in such a way
that you get goosebumps. So did people get goosebumps?
Speaker 8 (33:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
My god?
Speaker 17 (33:11):
M hm.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Does so creepy?
Speaker 13 (33:14):
Yeah, I want to know that.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
Well, I don't know how people know that.
Speaker 11 (33:20):
I mean, I guess for what are the people called
that help the morticians? Yeah, morticians? Maybe they figured this out.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, I you know, I found this you know, whole
like like this whole like thing, this whole thing, and
then I found this like evaluation on the some website,
the National Library of Medicine that kind of goes through
the process of post mortem like stuff. A direct quote
(33:55):
is rigor mortis of the if I missp ounceletlease don't
come for me, briga mortis of the erector pilli muscle
attached to the base of the hair follicle is also
responsible for the phenomenon of uh cudis our sina ursinia,
(34:19):
otherwise known as post mortem goosebumps.
Speaker 18 (34:24):
Oh that was Oh, what stop it?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
That's so weird. Okay, well so Eddie, who, Yes, dead
people can get rigor mortis. I will send people do
dead people can get goosebumps from riga mortis? So I
will send a link to the National Library of Medicine.
(35:01):
And also that little post that I found. But yes,
that is my fun fact.
Speaker 13 (35:06):
I didn't find that.
Speaker 17 (35:15):
I'm actually stop it. Turn the fucking voice right? Wait?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Can you do that for everyone?
Speaker 17 (35:26):
I'm concerned because it was on like and I could
barely understand what she was saying.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I could hear it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It was only supposed to be online.
Speaker 10 (35:39):
No, it's really why.
Speaker 17 (35:40):
I heard it.
Speaker 12 (35:41):
When she was talking, I heard her.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Normal, I heard her in my okay, can you play stop? Wait?
Can you tell me that.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Off for me?
Speaker 17 (35:55):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I don't like that.
Speaker 17 (35:59):
For making go from surgery?
Speaker 13 (36:09):
What is that like? So this is the end or something?
Speaker 11 (36:13):
Hill?
Speaker 13 (36:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (36:14):
I just.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
I just thinking, holos, hold this is if don't work,
I don't work.
Speaker 17 (36:30):
If I want from Holland and feel workfo.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
It makes me think I'm high on like Beth, like
you know how like.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
And like you know how like people are are like
don't do drugs and like TV shows and then.
Speaker 15 (36:54):
Like this voice, way, I'm going to stop it, get
to this is what happened after one use of marijuana.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Not even one random thing that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
No, that literally like if you watch a TV show,
that is like the voice that they give people when
they're like on as.
Speaker 11 (37:13):
He does it, because I was thinking with like family guy,
the way like.
Speaker 12 (37:19):
The dog Brian he takes Stewie.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, with stupid.
Speaker 17 (37:23):
I can still hear it.
Speaker 10 (37:24):
Can you turn it off?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Hello?
Speaker 12 (37:31):
Hear it?
Speaker 13 (37:31):
She's still on.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Like with a weird voice.
Speaker 17 (37:36):
It's it is not my voice. Is this how I'm
finishing the podcast?
Speaker 12 (37:41):
It's not doing that way, You're doing it on purpose?
Speaker 13 (37:46):
The fucker right now, it's t s tis this season.
Speaker 17 (37:51):
I'm done.
Speaker 13 (37:52):
I'm done quick, it's boy.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Then, so are we going to finish this podcast? Are
you doing that? Because I would vibe with it?
Speaker 17 (38:02):
Apparently we're going to have to.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
I'll start reading you can you can react in your God, Okay, I.
Speaker 10 (38:14):
Am so done, but you know.
Speaker 15 (38:24):
You need something on purpose.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
This is a fantastic and novel.
Speaker 12 (38:35):
Boy, do you get you get a show?
Speaker 17 (38:38):
Oh my god, we should do an ops.
Speaker 12 (38:42):
First song.
Speaker 10 (39:06):
Worst I want it.
Speaker 12 (39:18):
Worse a thriller song the end of it. I want
the thriller song at the end of the talking dude,
do do the boy?
Speaker 11 (39:27):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (39:29):
What does he even say?
Speaker 17 (39:31):
Vincent Price?
Speaker 6 (39:32):
What does he say?
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (39:35):
My god?
Speaker 10 (39:36):
Hold on.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Hell, yes, I'm trying to think of the.
Speaker 17 (39:46):
Happening on Google.
Speaker 10 (39:49):
I was a hope I won't take your guard because
I put the shirt. I was a hope. Gol money,
I want shore money. I want money Morning vocal and
if you're well, we.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Don't get copyrighted.
Speaker 15 (40:15):
Sounds like the ultro to a rap song, the rap
songs having so much fun with.
Speaker 13 (40:26):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmmmm.
Speaker 10 (40:33):
I'm don't click them song.
Speaker 15 (40:36):
This is like I feel like we all dropped by
the numbers, and it's like, oh, who can Who's gonna
stay safe from?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Like COVID?
Speaker 13 (40:45):
What everyone around me is like becoming infected?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Motherfucker?
Speaker 13 (40:51):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Hello, all right, oh hi, hi, yay, Okay, damn, just
when I found the lyrics to thriller.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Okay, that was fun. Bryce, thank you you are Patreon.
Speaker 17 (41:08):
Here we go.
Speaker 11 (41:09):
Oh my god, why did you have to do that? Dad?
Speaker 13 (41:13):
I'm so sorry. Guys, we're moving on, moving on.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Okay. I next, we have a story out of Duluth, Georgia,
and it took place at a local Walmart on August
tenth of this year. Yeah, people of Walmart security reported
to police that a man had come up to customer
service claiming that a woman wearing a yellow plaid shirt
had stabbed him in the neck with a needle and
(41:42):
injected him with a foreign substance that's hot.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
When the police showed up, security led them to a
blue Ford expedition outside where the presumed suspects were located.
As officers walked up, they asked the gentleman in the
front of the car, seventy three three year old Jay Carswell,
if he was alone in the car. He told the
officers no, and that there was a friend with him
in the back. That is when fifty five year old
(42:11):
Jennifer Keenan stepped out from the back of the car
when police asked her to, and then they attempted to
get documentation from her, but she began to be uncooperative
and according to the report, she quickly became combative and
was fighting with the officer while attempting to get a
gun from somewhere on her body. She started yelling for
(42:33):
help from her friend in the car, and when he
tried to leave the car, another officer nearby him told
him to stay in the car and to show his hands.
Instead of complying, he opened the car door and he
started to get out of the car. The officer told
him to get out of the car then, and to
keep his hands up. So cars well, shut the door
(42:53):
and got back you know, got back in the car
instead and shut the door. He then began to try
to reach for some in the back as the officer
warned him that if he did not show him his hands,
he would get tased, which is exactly what ended up happening.
After he tried to start the car and drive off
what they called that fuck around and find out basically.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Wait, so they taste like a seven year old man?
Speaker 6 (43:18):
Basically yes, that's hilarious.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
Live he's I yeah, after the say it your shone
to show your hands? You should do that?
Speaker 6 (43:34):
Fly Well, there are reasons why you should, yes, but
there are also times when well you make choices in life.
After the two were taken into custody, there was found
two rifles and a shotgun, all loaded in the back
seat that the seventy three year old man was trying
(43:56):
to reach for, so probably should have been tasted. There
was a handgun in the car as well.
Speaker 7 (44:04):
There are you going.
Speaker 17 (44:06):
In there?
Speaker 6 (44:07):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (44:09):
You get what you get and you don't throw up it, Okay.
Speaker 13 (44:13):
You get in whichever pick of handgun.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
It was not ever confirmed what the substance was that
was injected into the customer in Walmart, but EMS was
called and according to the police report, he was medically cleared,
as were the two suspects, so the gentleman was not
harmed from the tasing, and they were of course taken
into custody. They are being held on other warrants, so
(44:43):
there was outstanding warrants here. Some issues.
Speaker 15 (44:47):
My question is, if I'm getting stobbed in the neck
with a syringe, I'm not going up to the Walmart
customer service and going, oh my.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
God, it's just got stopped in the next I mean,
I'm throwing hands.
Speaker 15 (44:59):
Well I'm throwing hands and I'm literally calling the police
like myself, not to say that maybe he didn't, but
I'm not going up to Walmart customer service like he's
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 7 (45:11):
You anything but I just got stabbed in the parking lot.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
I don't imagine what, but can someone call?
Speaker 7 (45:20):
Like, somebody, can.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
You imagine if there was a line at customer service
return holding your neck waiting important? It's important here.
Speaker 13 (45:32):
Sorry, I don't mean to cut.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
So you're saying that you're gonna I'm not.
Speaker 13 (45:39):
I'm throwing all sorts of things.
Speaker 15 (45:41):
If somebody stabs me in the neck with a syringe.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I thought I would just accept my face.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
It just doesn't involve Walmart's Like, Okay, I guess this
is how I die today.
Speaker 11 (45:51):
So close to the people I would not get like,
especially at wally World, you know, not to.
Speaker 12 (45:56):
Trust people.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Stobbed in the neck with the syringe. At Target, I'd
probably be more okay than if I got one at Walmart.
Speaker 16 (46:05):
I'd be like, you know what, it's the level of
Like Target would be more like yeah, it might be
like drugs, whereas Walmart it might be drugs, you.
Speaker 6 (46:17):
Know what I mean, or bleach or you know, got ammonia.
I don't know, Yeah, could be synid, I don't know,
it could be anything.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
Wally World is another another story of possibilities of what
he could have been injected with.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't know. I just
I don't imagine that he was like cool, calm and collected, you.
Speaker 12 (46:43):
Know where you would at Costco.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
Absolutely not, because Costco is fuck.
Speaker 15 (46:53):
No.
Speaker 6 (46:54):
I believe that Costco would have taken this to another
level of security. They would have taken it, would have
it would have like propelled down from the open ceiling.
He would you this woman would never have made it
(47:15):
in or out. No, no, absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Oh my god, they call in like special forces, the.
Speaker 6 (47:34):
Death eaters operate, and oh my god, this is another
level of I don't even know. All right. Our last
story today is, of course everybody's favorite, especially Olivea, the
Florida Fuckery. No, this is a wild ride, so buckle in.
(47:59):
I'm here like fucking now, you'll get the PSA to
buckland on all the other shit that like a.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
Strap it in a harness, strap it in the roller coaster.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Okay, all right, so we seem to have like a
little bit of a theme here. Convicted criminals who escaped
from prison. Okay, but this story was I mean, it
was just golden Florida fuckery. On December twenty first of
twenty eighteen, convicted felon Alan Todd May So always the
three name people, was able to escape the Inglewood Federal
(48:38):
Correction Institution in Coloradow. So he had served eleven of
the twenty years that he was sentenced to for securities fraud.
He had been convicted for being part of a Ponzi
scheme to the tune of six point eight million dollars.
That's a lot. He was able to use a prison
(49:01):
truck and make it like he took possession of a
prison truck while he was in prison and made it
all the way out of the facility with none the wiser.
No one stopped him and questioned that he should not
be driving that truck.
Speaker 7 (49:18):
He don't look familiar at all, just going on about
your day. Yeah, does it, mullet, The truck doesn't belong
to you, don't drive it.
Speaker 6 (49:31):
Well, he needed to get out of prison. So choices again, Yeah,
choices were made.
Speaker 7 (49:37):
I honestly thought you were going to say eleven days
out of the twenty years he made it that far.
Speaker 6 (49:44):
So there were some leads, one of which showed that
May was able to rent a U haul truck in Denver, Colorado.
The truck would later be abounded found abound it. Oh
my god, found abandoned. That's a word behind a waffle
house of course, in Fort Worth, Texas. Days later waffle
(50:05):
house slaps guys.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Just anyway.
Speaker 6 (50:09):
No one had seen this man since then, and that
is until December twenty twenty two when he was spotted
visiting his mom. Got to visit mama in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 7 (50:19):
Hot.
Speaker 6 (50:19):
That's so swee, I mean, that's so sweet, right, But
it quickly disappeared again, that is until a lead came in.
There was an anonymous tip that there was a gentleman
by the name of Jacob Turner who was a wealthy
man living in the West Palm Beach and Fort Lauderdale
area in Florida, looked suspiciously like Alan Todd May. Jacob
(50:44):
Turner was frequently in Palm Beach society, where he often
would attend fundraisers and galas. He was living this very
affluent and opulent lifestyle. This was apparently his undoing as
a photo and a newspaper of him at a benefit
tipped off this anonymous person that he was indeed Alan
Todd May. When he was caught and arrested, May was
(51:07):
driving a Mercedes Benz valued at one hundred and twenty
five thousand dollars. He was wearing a very expensive Rolex watch,
and this gentleman had been living in a luxurious one
point five million dollar mansion. No idea. I'm not gonna lie.
The pictures of the front of the house remind me
of the Golden Girl's House if it had been like
(51:30):
remodeled and painted white, but literally look the same. Like
the door was to the left there was a two
car garage. The shape of the home was the same.
It was just white, and like the landscape was different.
I swear to God they found the Golden he found
the Golden Girl House. I swear yeah. Although I do
(51:51):
think that house was actually from like La Area. I
don't know. I've read some things on it. Maybe he
had a built I don't know. So Mayo was booked
at the Palm Beach County Jail and he is being
transported back to Colorado to face these charges. There are
allegations that he quote unquote cashed in on seven hundred
(52:15):
thousand dollars from fake energy companies that he had set
up while behind bars. How do you how do you
fucking do that?
Speaker 7 (52:24):
Like?
Speaker 6 (52:24):
And why don't I know how to do that because it's.
Speaker 11 (52:30):
Okay, point stuff their jobs so bad that they let
this this dude from fucking Colorado. I have all this
money in jail.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
I just I don't understand, don't do think that will
get him trouble choices.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
I know, choices.
Speaker 6 (52:49):
Investigators are looking into the possibility that he's set up
fake companies in Texas to declare himself the legal owner
of unclaimed oil and gas royalties in like three different states.
Speaker 11 (53:02):
Holy shit.
Speaker 6 (53:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I'm I'm
very I'm like I set a Google alert because I'm
interested to see whatever fuckery he gets into. Like this
is not the last time that I think we'll hear
from this guy.
Speaker 10 (53:17):
Oh, I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (53:18):
I'm I'm sure there's more and we'll see if he
actually stays in prison this time. I mean, I doubt
it made him far. He really did, and he was
out for a man.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
I would love to talk to him and interview him, right,
you know. Maybe, like now we're on Patreon, maybe if
people donate enough, we can pay for a plane ticket
for me to go to Colorado. Buy me a coffee,
buy me a buy me several coffees, So I can,
you know, go to Colorado and interview this guy in
personally right, just to see what his ideas are and
(53:52):
how we can i mean.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
Legally, what can we take from this like on the
up and up, you know, just.
Speaker 11 (54:03):
Right totally, just just interview him about nothing specific, just his.
Speaker 6 (54:08):
Days in the you know, some tax advice, inst stop it,
get some help, I concur Yeah, I'm just I mean,
I'm here for the ships and giggles. I'm sure that
there's going to be some more fuckery from this guy.
I don't think we've heard the last of Alan Todd
(54:31):
may sound like a Scooby two villain. Oh Alan, You're
so funny, Allen. All right, guys, that wraps up our
first Patreon. Thank you everybody for all the support, Thank
you for all of the laughs that we've shared today.
You're don't forget to check out our regular feed and
(54:54):
we will see you guys soon. Thank you much.
Speaker 13 (54:57):
Bye bye bye bye ye
Surprise.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, hello, welcome to the bonus episode of What Happens
in the Woods. We had three Fridays this month. I
know I'm not the usual voice I usually hear, but
we had some things that were planned. They didn't pan out.
I'm pretty sure they.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Still will more to come on.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So we've decided to release our Patreon episodes. For those
of you that did support us on Patreon, thank you.
And you've heard this before, but maybe we'll readlift some
memories together. So we're releasing the first episode of our
WTF series on Patreon to the public. So this for
(01:08):
some of you, this is the first time you're going
to hear this. I told Jess you guys weren't ready
for this. So it's it's our lighter side. And I'm
sure you guys have heard, you know, our previous ones,
but these are being released. This is being released the
first time. So I hope you guys enjoy it, and
(01:29):
then we'll see you the first Friday of February for
a new episode. Enjoy everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
What Happens in the Woods is a true crime podcast.
We discuss events that are often violent in nature. Listeners
discretion is advised. Mate what Ranka wrote this, have you
heard this podcast? Jess just drones on and on, talking
and talking blah blah blah. Bryce just says okay and ah,
(02:02):
don't get me started on Mara and Olivia. Shit was
still recording, Bryce, cue the music.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Welcome to wt Wednesday. Half an hour of Drew Crime Stories.
It's the finest fuckery. Now here is your host Jess
with Drew Crime Stories that'll make you say, what the fuck?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
We'll welcome and hello, where are you giggling? Already?
Speaker 7 (02:32):
What?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's a song?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's while I heard the song?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Oh stop it all right? Well, you guys have made
it to the inaugural Patreon episode of the WTFS. Let
the fuckery officially begin.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yay yay.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
So we're all here and ready to go. Joining us
today are Olivia. That was perfect And of course you
(03:13):
cannot forget Maura. Hello, mother, Hello everybody, And we have
Cass Hellos and we have our special guest making her
debut of parents on the podcast. Whether it be WTFS
(03:37):
or regular season, we have with us Hayley.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I didn't I'll have it in Oh wait, God.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Who knows where that's from? I know we all know
what that's about.
Speaker 8 (04:04):
Hello, everybody.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
Okay, I'm very excited, very excited. He's so excited, very excited,
very excited. All right, And of course Bryce, hello, who
still doesn't have music?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I don't want one.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
I don't know how that. I mean, that just doesn't work.
It does No, not really, not really? All right? Are
you ready to dive into this?
Speaker 10 (04:40):
When?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Do we have any updates or we just want to
get into it?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
What updates? This is Patreon, Barry.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Let's go right into it.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Ready, just for the patriots.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Just for the patriots. Oh okay, nails.
Speaker 11 (05:10):
Wow, okay, with like my finger over my ear.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
A star is in the making, y'all. You've brought it
first here, So I lied. The first story is an
update of sorts. I think everybody's gonna remember us covering
this in a WTF or you've you know heard of this.
So this infamous and mysterious case from the Pacific Northwest.
(05:42):
I am referring to dB Cooper, the gentleman who hijacked
a plane on its way to Seattle from Portland and
then parachuted out with about two hundred thousand dollars that
he demanded in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was gonna say that was in the seventies.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Right, Yeah, So there have been many years of discussion
and many people have speculated on the identity of this man,
and it still to this day is unresolved. What is fun?
Why what your face? She's just excited, She's excited. So
(06:24):
recently this made news again after a man in Arizona
reportedly is suing the FBI to gain access to sealed
evidence files. A CNN article reported that Eric Ulyss from Phoenix, Arizona,
has spent quote countless hours scouring tens of thousands of
FBI documents on Cooper for any details federal agents may
(06:47):
have missed end quote. The FBI officially closed this case
in twenty sixteen, after I mean, how many decades they
had no leads that panned out, So it just kind
of died, you know. So Uless has become like this
(07:08):
expert on dB Cooper. He wrote an ebook that is
going to be released this month titled Silver Bullet, The
Undoing of dB Cooper. In twenty twenty, he hosted the
premiere episode of a show titled History's Greatest Mysteries on
the History Channel, and then just last year, he was
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part of a twenty twenty two Netflix series that was
titled D B. Cooper, Where Are You? And possibly the
most exciting project that this gentleman has been involved in
is Cooper Cohn. So he has started a con convention
in twenty eighteen quote at which fans of the hijacker
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gathered to discuss elements of the case in granular detail.
Speaker 12 (07:58):
Obsessed too, I just.
Speaker 13 (08:02):
We've got a lot of time on him.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I don't famous.
Speaker 13 (08:05):
I can't decide.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
It's just a fan. He's like a fan, and he
like is an amateur sleuth who just who deep dives
into this and wants to solve it.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
I just he should sorry, go ahead, Hey he should,
you know, make.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
A list A list, Yeah, a list of of I'm
sure he probably has a list. In fact, I think
he has like a notebook that he writes down things into.
So yeah, that's good.
Speaker 11 (08:31):
I just think that maybe his time is being focused
on some wrong things here.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
I mean, would you not want to be the one
who cracks this case?
Speaker 12 (08:40):
That that's one.
Speaker 11 (08:41):
Thing I will agree with that that would be pretty
damn cool.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
But the kN con type and the.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Fucking the book with the most used name ever, the
Unraveling or whatever the.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
The undoing the silver Bullet. I don't really get what
that means. Silver bullet, the undoing of D. B.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Cooper.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
I don't really understand. I mean the title, but.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I guess he's looking for the silver bullet to like
I guess salt crack the case.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But my question, I mean, who's that it? Marw Like?
I feel like he has like a lot of time
on his hands. So my question is is he a
trust fund baby? And if so, sir, and if you
are a trust fun baby, what's what gidding? What?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Like?
Speaker 7 (09:33):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I don't think he is. I'm not really sure in
this economy, right, I don't know this man. I think
it's just like his you know what I mean?
Speaker 11 (09:48):
Some people, what's the conspiracy theory of this Cooper dude?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
So the background is that he boarded this plane. Actually
it's Dan Cooper was the name on the ticket, but
somehow there was like an error in a news reporting
of it. Now he's dB Cooper, which is like more seductive,
right deep Cooper Cooper?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Right?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
So Dan Cooper boarded a flight from Portland to Seattle
one way ticket. He gets on with just a bag,
no checked luggage, and in the bag is basically explosives,
and he hijacks the plane. They land in Seattle and
he's like, Okay, the crew, I need two hundred thousand dollars.
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I'll let the people off the plane. The crew's going
to take me to Mexico. So they get him the
two hundred thousand dollars. He lets the people off the plane,
but the crew does, like you know, they lift off
and they're on their way back down coming down south,
and he parachutes out the plane with the money and
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he was like and he like literally never was found.
So they recovered some of the money, but they have
never recovered it remains or like anything that was definitive
that could be.
Speaker 11 (11:21):
I'm guessing, like what happened is what if he changed
his names like so many times.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
But they don't. Yeah, they don't think Dan Cooper was
his real name because back in the day, you didn't
have to show any idea or anything.
Speaker 14 (11:34):
He got a ticket, I want to say, like, because
there was this case of back in like the eighties seventies,
I think, where this man stole his stepdaughter and changed
their names like eight ten times.
Speaker 11 (11:52):
Oh yeah, we're never caught, right, And so I'm wondering
if like that was kind of like the same.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Maybe, yeah, I mean it was a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know. That's kind of what I miss about those
days is that you really could just like disappear. You know,
you just walk in get a job. You didn't have
to show a Social Security card. You could just disappear
with two hundred grand after jumping out of a plane.
Speaker 13 (12:17):
And that was that, and that was that and you
can live your life.
Speaker 15 (12:21):
I just I get how like elusive and you know,
everyone would love to be dB Cooper who got away
with this and it's just so cool. But I just
I don't know, like a whole con and when you
were really into this, man.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
How many people are going to show up? Like four people?
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Non literally? Okay. So he recently made news because he
was asking that the FBI really like retest using DNA
testing an item that was left behind when Cooper parachuted
out of the plane. So he took off his clip
on tie that had a tie clip on it and
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he may have touched it right. So it was confirmed
that this clip was sold by J C. Pennies. Doesn't
they don't know where which JAC Pennies he would have
purchased it at but there was some DNA testing on
that item with no results. But he believes that the
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part of the clip that would hold answers was not tested,
so like the metal hinge was not tested. So he
is basically he's requesting that the FBI retests this piece.
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So this month, actually, in case anybody is interested, Ulis
is conducting a search near a part of the Columbia
River where like in Washington where there was fifty eight
hundred dollars of the ransom money was found in nineteen eighty,
They're going to do out do a group search out
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there trying to find the parachute.
Speaker 11 (14:11):
Just I guess that would be so ruined by now, yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
I mean yeah, And I mean this was the nineteen eighties.
We're forty years removed from that at this point.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So who is she?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I don't know, I don't know, but yeah, there's a
search going on at the end of this month. So
I mean, if anybody is interested, I will link his
website and who knows, you may catch me out there
trying to find this parachute, because I am not gonna lie.
I'm a little bit.
Speaker 10 (14:40):
At this moment that he knew he fucked up.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Who fucked up.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That's wrong. Button quick.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Oh, I'm not going out there.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
That might be my birthday. Well, we'll see when that falls.
When that hits, yeah, maybe that's what I'll do this
year to celebrate my birthday is to go out on
the Columbia River and search for a parachute from nineteen
eighty Good.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Luck and God bless with pop.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I mean, I tried to buy us a kayak earlier
this year.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
She said, no, I want kayaking in October. You you
got me fucked up?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Why do you want a kayak?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's fun, it'll be fun.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, that's another that's another story. Thank you under the water.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
That's between you and mal.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
No.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
All right, our next story is a little different. So
stay with me.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
Here.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Will I read you a story that I found. This
is the story of Ronald Opus.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
For a second, I thought you were gonna say Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Ronald Reagan, he was for president. All right, Here is
the story. On March twenty third, nineteen ninety four, medical
examiner viewed the body of Ronald Opus and concluded that
he died from a gunshot wound of the head caused
by a shotgun. Investigation to that point had revealed that
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the descendant had jumped from the top of a ten
story building with the intent to commit suicide. In parentheses
here it says he left a note indicating his despondency.
As he passed the ninth floor on the way down,
his life was interrupted by a shotgun blast through a window,
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killing him instantly. Neither the shooter nor the descendant were
aware that a safety net had been erected at the
eighth floor level to protect some window washers, and that
the descendant would most likely not have been able to
complete his intent to commit suicide because of this. Ordinarily,
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a person who sets out to commit suicide and ultimately succeeds,
even if the mechanism might not be what they intended,
is defined as having committed suicide. That he was shot
on the way to certain death nine stories below probably
would not change his mode of death from suicide to homicide,
but the fact that his suicide intent would not have
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been achieved under any circumstances, because the medical examiner felt
that he had committed homicide, that he had homicide on
his hands. Sorry, that sentence is a little convoluted, basically
because the intent was there, but he wouldn't have been
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able to be successful. Because of the net it now
becomes homicide. Further investigation led to the discovery that the
room on the ninth floor, whence where the shotgun blast emanated,
was occupied by an elderly man and his wife. He
was threatening her with this shotgun because of an interspousal
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spat came so upset that he could not hold the
shotgun straight. Therefore, when he pulled the trigger, he completely
missed his wife and the pellets went through the window,
striking Ronald opis bruh.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Really he missed his wife to kill someone else.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
He should not kill his wife.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
No, he shouldn't kill his wife. Well, okay, I'm not
done though. So when one intends to kill subject A,
that kills subject B in the attempt, when is guilty
of the murder of subject B. The old man was
confronted with this conclusion, but both he and his wife
were adamant in stating that neither knew that the shotgun
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was loaded, and it was the longtime habit of the
old man to threaten his wife with an uploaded or
an unloaded sorry unloaded shotgun habit. Habit had no intent
to murder her. Why therefore the killing him the descendant
appeared then to be an accident. That is, the gun
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had been accidentally loaded.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
Who the ghost of Pasper It's coming.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
I think the reason why he lies is because he
just doesn't want to get caught.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Well, yeah, I agree, honey. But further investigation turned up
a witness that their son was seen loading the shotgun
approximately six weeks prior to the fatal accident. That investigation
showed that the mother had cut off her son's financial support,
and her son, knowing the propensity of his father to
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use the shotgun, threateningly loaded the gun with the expectation
that the father would shoot his mother. The case now
becomes one of murder on the part of the son
for the death of Ronald Opis. Now comes the exquisite twist.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Now it comes.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Further investigation revealed that the sun was Ronald Opis himself.
What the fuck? He had become increasingly despondent over the
failure of his attempt to get his mother murdered. This
led to the jump off of the ten story building
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on March twenty third, only to be killed by a
shotgun blast through a ninth story window. The medical examiner
closed the case as suicide.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
What fucking lifetime movie.
Speaker 13 (20:48):
That would have been a great movie, to be.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Honest, honestly right, just throw a toaster in about Tvin
call to day. We should not encourage that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Don't do that.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
But what I'm yes, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Don't do that. No, what the dog doing?
Speaker 13 (21:11):
What is anyone doing?
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Oh my god, how many times I fucking heard that that.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
That sounds from Alec?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
What the dog doing?
Speaker 7 (21:21):
He literally is saying that to his friends all the
damn time.
Speaker 13 (21:24):
I'm so annoyed by it.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Now triggered.
Speaker 15 (21:28):
Okay, well, don't load a shotgun in the hopes that
I don't know one of us.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
Stattoo this fucking dumb ass habit of waving again your
fucking wife.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I just how is that even acceptable? Way of like
having an argument?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
RU treat every gun as if it's.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Loaded, right, because it is what you're some things? Yeah,
this is nineteen ninety.
Speaker 11 (21:54):
Not okay, for it's not even acceptable anymore.
Speaker 16 (21:59):
You can't be just what the nineteen ninety four what
ears is the cutoff for this to be acceptable?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Sixteen twenty five?
Speaker 11 (22:07):
No, like you know how the girl was the housewife
in the fifties and she had to follow what the
guy did.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
So this happened in nineteen fifty two, it would be accepted.
Speaker 12 (22:17):
It wouldn't be acceptable.
Speaker 11 (22:18):
It would be a little bit more understandable if you're like, here,
here's societal norms.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Okay, yeah, yeah, not makes sense. Okay, but you got
to think if they were an elderly couple in the nineties,
they were from the fifties, Like that's theirs, that's their generation. Babies.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Wow, this entire story is so convoluted, Like I actually
had a really hard time keeping like sexual awareneshion awareness.
Speaker 16 (22:46):
Right aish awareness awareness, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Sorry, I can't speak probably, I mean at this point.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Yeah. So this case is talked about in many different
ways throughout the years, published in papers and magazines, and
discussed in chat rooms since its origination in nineteen ninety four.
This wild and crazy story is entirely fake false.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Really, yeah, it had to be.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah, how would that line up?
Speaker 7 (23:20):
They just want to keep it a secret, so battling
and not let anybody know.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
No, honey, it's a secret. Is just faked.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
It's fake.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
It's fake.
Speaker 13 (23:32):
Emotion.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You just put me through the whole.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
I just put you through that whole thing, so I
was not ready to bite this man. According to Wikipedia,
which is where I read the story from, this case
was originally told by Don Harper Mills, then the president
of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and a speech
at a banquet in nineteen eighty seven. After that, it
began to circulate and it was actually I came across it,
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and it was said that it was a factual story
until I found the Wikipedia page, which basically is it's
just an urban legend at this.
Speaker 13 (24:12):
Yeah, some point, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I guess, well, I was just about to say, I
guess that would be like a really cool like thought
experiment or something to like for like a medical medical
a medical a medical examiner, or like an investigator to
determine who actually is at fault for that.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
You mean, like those algebraic equations in the paragraphs that
would never happen in real life, but we were expected
in the tenth grade to figure out, yes, yeah, the
math doesn't math.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Right, it doesn't math. But like I'm just saying that
that would be like a fun little thought experiment, you
know whatever, Like a teaching moment.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
A teaching moment teaching don't wave a loaded shotgun at
your wife in a threat, and that's the teaching moment.
Do not unlive yourself by jumping off of a.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Also, don't load a shotgun and an expectation that it's
going to shoot your mother, right, you know?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I mean the thing is not only did he know
like my thing was, It's one thing to wave a
shotgun around and threaten. It's another thing to cock the
fucking thing, that's true, which he had to have done theoretically,
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if this were true, to shoot the person that jumped
off the roof like he would have had to have
actually been like, I'm gonna fucking kill you and there
you go. So it wasn't even just I'm threatening you
with it. I'm waving it around. I know there's nothing
in it like I'm I'm prepared to actually like aimed
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at you, make sure that it's loaded and shoot the
fucking thing.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Well, maybe he shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
No, I agree, you should never do that.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
I agree because if you because if you do that,
then you're just acting like a joke, and you want.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
To be a joke, right, I guess he did want
to be a jerk. He woke up and he said,
I'm gonna be a jerk today.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He chose violent.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
He chose violence. Yeah, and it chows all right. Well,
now that I've caused the emotional damage. The next case
comes to us from out of Arkansas, ew Where, Arkansas, Arkansas,
where Samuel Hartman, aged thirty nine, was apprehended after having
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escaped prison a year earlier. They found Hartman at the
Quality Inn with his wife, his mom, and his mom's
boyfriend in Louisbourg, West Virginia.
Speaker 15 (26:58):
I'll just share a room.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Apparently. On August twelfth of twenty twenty two, Misty Hartman,
thirty nine, and the convict's mom, Linda Annette White, sixty one,
drove up to a field where Hartman was on work
detail at the East Arkansas Regional Unit Prison. Hartman was
serving time after being convicted of raping his fourteen year
old stepdaughter in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 13 (27:21):
Jesus Close.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
The two women fired upon the corrections officers guarding the
prisoners and provided cover while Hartman ran to get into
the truck that they were driving. The three then sped
off and made it to the Mississippi River, where they
abandoned the truck and they escaped the area on two
jet skis that had been stowed away for their getaway.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
This is a little coordinating time movie Bush.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I mean, honestly, I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Sorry Chekansas, but the sleeves a little too coordinated for
people from Arkansas.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Who knew that James Bond.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
That's what I'm thinking of, honest by movie.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Honestly, so on, the jet skis were found on the
other side of the river, on the Mississippi state side,
where it was reported that two women and a man
were seen abandoning them and just taking off and then
they went on the run for the last several months
before them. So the three of them were found along
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with Rodney Trent, age fifty two, the mom's boyfriend, at
this hotel, this inn, and all four were arrested. It
only lists the charges for Trent as felony charges of
harboring a sex offender and assisting the two women in
their jail break, but it was not clear what the
charges the wife and the mom will face. I'm sure
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it's kind of probably some aiding and betting, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Pause, I'm so sorry. So the mom and his wife
helped him.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Escape, and his mom and his wife.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Okay, so his step mom daughter's mom helped him.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I am assuming, but I do not know. It could
have been from a pre They don't state that it
was her daughter that he was charged with rape.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, I mean either way, right.
Speaker 15 (29:21):
But I'm sorry, I'm not if y'all got convicted of
a sex cram. I'm sorry. I'm not standing by you
on that one. Certainly not bringing you out of prison.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
No, I might help you go there.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
I will assist in a different way.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
Push you into the door.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Yeah, okay, let's knock out to present.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
No, but if you bad, yeah.
Speaker 11 (29:56):
You deserve and and someone said you have to go
to prison, and then you have to go.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
If you did what you were being accused of doing,
then you need to go to prison. That's what your
that's what your punishment is. So the group was transported
back to Arkansas and they're sitting in jail awaiting sentencing buying. Yeah,
no fucks given, no fusgiven for that, no sympathy. I
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just thought it was really funny that the two women
show up in the middle of a field and they're
open buyer. How you could have shot anybody like you
could have shot your son. The guy that you were.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Trying to the storm or school of shooting.
Speaker 11 (30:42):
Maybe they was somewhere.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
I mean, if you have good, good fucking aim and
nice steady hands, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Yeah, if you don't want to go to prison, then
don't do something bad.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Well yeah, thank you, Haley More. You know, some people
don't think no, some people don't don't think like that.
Speaker 11 (31:11):
Don't have that that conscious talking in their head.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
All right, and now it's time for cast is fun backs.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
What's back with you?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
For us and cass?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Okay, so air b.
Speaker 13 (31:39):
B b B, Well you got out voted.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, all right, we're gonna go with b. Okay, So
how often do you guys get like goosebumps?
Speaker 13 (31:55):
Honestly a lot lately.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Every time I wake up to my wife.
Speaker 15 (32:00):
That's scary.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Actually I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
That's kind of romantic.
Speaker 13 (32:07):
Hello, it does.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Well every two hours.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I don't know. Okay, from what I understand from this fact,
let me just say that, how would you like to
get goosebumps that last forever?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
No?
Speaker 11 (32:30):
Thanks?
Speaker 12 (32:31):
Bye?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right, okay, let me get to the fact. Me
stop sideshowing or whatever they say. Dead people can get goosebumps.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
How isn't that like a nerve ending thing?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So it's a from what I understand, it's like a
different method of getting goosebumps. So basically, when rigamortis, that's
your muscles can expand and contract in such a way
that you get goosebumps. So did people get goosebumps?
Speaker 8 (33:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
My god?
Speaker 17 (33:11):
M hm.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Does so creepy?
Speaker 13 (33:14):
Yeah, I want to know that.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
Well, I don't know how people know that.
Speaker 11 (33:20):
I mean, I guess for what are the people called
that help the morticians? Yeah, morticians? Maybe they figured this out.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, I you know, I found this you know, whole
like like this whole like thing, this whole thing, and
then I found this like evaluation on the some website,
the National Library of Medicine that kind of goes through
the process of post mortem like stuff. A direct quote
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is rigor mortis of the if I missp ounceletlease don't
come for me, briga mortis of the erector pilli muscle
attached to the base of the hair follicle is also
responsible for the phenomenon of uh cudis our sina ursinia,
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otherwise known as post mortem goosebumps.
Speaker 18 (34:24):
Oh that was Oh, what stop it?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
That's so weird. Okay, well so Eddie, who, Yes, dead
people can get rigor mortis. I will send people do
dead people can get goosebumps from riga mortis? So I
will send a link to the National Library of Medicine.
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And also that little post that I found. But yes,
that is my fun fact.
Speaker 13 (35:06):
I didn't find that.
Speaker 17 (35:15):
I'm actually stop it. Turn the fucking voice right? Wait?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Can you do that for everyone?
Speaker 17 (35:26):
I'm concerned because it was on like and I could
barely understand what she was saying.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I could hear it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It was only supposed to be online.
Speaker 10 (35:39):
No, it's really why.
Speaker 17 (35:40):
I heard it.
Speaker 12 (35:41):
When she was talking, I heard her.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Normal, I heard her in my okay, can you play stop? Wait?
Can you tell me that.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Off for me?
Speaker 17 (35:55):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I don't like that.
Speaker 17 (35:59):
For making go from surgery?
Speaker 13 (36:09):
What is that like? So this is the end or something?
Speaker 11 (36:13):
Hill?
Speaker 13 (36:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (36:14):
I just.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
I just thinking, holos, hold this is if don't work,
I don't work.
Speaker 17 (36:30):
If I want from Holland and feel workfo.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
It makes me think I'm high on like Beth, like
you know how like.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
And like you know how like people are are like
don't do drugs and like TV shows and then.
Speaker 15 (36:54):
Like this voice, way, I'm going to stop it, get
to this is what happened after one use of marijuana.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
Not even one random thing that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
No, that literally like if you watch a TV show,
that is like the voice that they give people when
they're like on as.
Speaker 11 (37:13):
He does it, because I was thinking with like family guy,
the way like.
Speaker 12 (37:19):
The dog Brian he takes Stewie.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, with stupid.
Speaker 17 (37:23):
I can still hear it.
Speaker 10 (37:24):
Can you turn it off?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Hello?
Speaker 12 (37:31):
Hear it?
Speaker 13 (37:31):
She's still on.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Like with a weird voice.
Speaker 17 (37:36):
It's it is not my voice. Is this how I'm
finishing the podcast?
Speaker 12 (37:41):
It's not doing that way, You're doing it on purpose?
Speaker 13 (37:46):
The fucker right now, it's t s tis this season.
Speaker 17 (37:51):
I'm done.
Speaker 13 (37:52):
I'm done quick, it's boy.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Then, so are we going to finish this podcast? Are
you doing that? Because I would vibe with it?
Speaker 17 (38:02):
Apparently we're going to have to.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
I'll start reading you can you can react in your God, Okay, I.
Speaker 10 (38:14):
Am so done, but you know.
Speaker 15 (38:24):
You need something on purpose.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
This is a fantastic and novel.
Speaker 12 (38:35):
Boy, do you get you get a show?
Speaker 17 (38:38):
Oh my god, we should do an ops.
Speaker 12 (38:42):
First song.
Speaker 10 (39:06):
Worst I want it.
Speaker 12 (39:18):
Worse a thriller song the end of it. I want
the thriller song at the end of the talking dude,
do do the boy?
Speaker 11 (39:27):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (39:29):
What does he even say?
Speaker 17 (39:31):
Vincent Price?
Speaker 6 (39:32):
What does he say?
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (39:35):
My god?
Speaker 10 (39:36):
Hold on.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Hell, yes, I'm trying to think of the.
Speaker 17 (39:46):
Happening on Google.
Speaker 10 (39:49):
I was a hope I won't take your guard because
I put the shirt. I was a hope. Gol money,
I want shore money. I want money Morning vocal and
if you're well, we.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Don't get copyrighted.
Speaker 15 (40:15):
Sounds like the ultro to a rap song, the rap
songs having so much fun with.
Speaker 13 (40:26):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmmmm.
Speaker 10 (40:33):
I'm don't click them song.
Speaker 15 (40:36):
This is like I feel like we all dropped by
the numbers, and it's like, oh, who can Who's gonna
stay safe from?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Like COVID?
Speaker 13 (40:45):
What everyone around me is like becoming infected?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Motherfucker?
Speaker 13 (40:51):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Hello, all right, oh hi, hi, yay, Okay, damn, just
when I found the lyrics to thriller.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Okay, that was fun. Bryce, thank you you are Patreon.
Speaker 17 (41:08):
Here we go.
Speaker 11 (41:09):
Oh my god, why did you have to do that? Dad?
Speaker 13 (41:13):
I'm so sorry. Guys, we're moving on, moving on.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Okay. I next, we have a story out of Duluth, Georgia,
and it took place at a local Walmart on August
tenth of this year. Yeah, people of Walmart security reported
to police that a man had come up to customer
service claiming that a woman wearing a yellow plaid shirt
had stabbed him in the neck with a needle and
(41:42):
injected him with a foreign substance that's hot.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
When the police showed up, security led them to a
blue Ford expedition outside where the presumed suspects were located.
As officers walked up, they asked the gentleman in the
front of the car, seventy three three year old Jay Carswell,
if he was alone in the car. He told the
officers no, and that there was a friend with him
in the back. That is when fifty five year old
(42:11):
Jennifer Keenan stepped out from the back of the car
when police asked her to, and then they attempted to
get documentation from her, but she began to be uncooperative
and according to the report, she quickly became combative and
was fighting with the officer while attempting to get a
gun from somewhere on her body. She started yelling for
(42:33):
help from her friend in the car, and when he
tried to leave the car, another officer nearby him told
him to stay in the car and to show his hands.
Instead of complying, he opened the car door and he
started to get out of the car. The officer told
him to get out of the car then, and to
keep his hands up. So cars well, shut the door
(42:53):
and got back you know, got back in the car
instead and shut the door. He then began to try
to reach for some in the back as the officer
warned him that if he did not show him his hands,
he would get tased, which is exactly what ended up happening.
After he tried to start the car and drive off
what they called that fuck around and find out basically.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Wait, so they taste like a seven year old man?
Speaker 6 (43:18):
Basically yes, that's hilarious.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
Live he's I yeah, after the say it your shone
to show your hands? You should do that?
Speaker 6 (43:34):
Fly Well, there are reasons why you should, yes, but
there are also times when well you make choices in life.
After the two were taken into custody, there was found
two rifles and a shotgun, all loaded in the back
seat that the seventy three year old man was trying
(43:56):
to reach for, so probably should have been tasted. There
was a handgun in the car as well.
Speaker 7 (44:04):
There are you going.
Speaker 17 (44:06):
In there?
Speaker 6 (44:07):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (44:09):
You get what you get and you don't throw up it, Okay.
Speaker 13 (44:13):
You get in whichever pick of handgun.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
It was not ever confirmed what the substance was that
was injected into the customer in Walmart, but EMS was
called and according to the police report, he was medically cleared,
as were the two suspects, so the gentleman was not
harmed from the tasing, and they were of course taken
into custody. They are being held on other warrants, so
(44:43):
there was outstanding warrants here. Some issues.
Speaker 15 (44:47):
My question is, if I'm getting stobbed in the neck
with a syringe, I'm not going up to the Walmart
customer service and going, oh my.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
God, it's just got stopped in the next I mean,
I'm throwing hands.
Speaker 15 (44:59):
Well I'm throwing hands and I'm literally calling the police
like myself, not to say that maybe he didn't, but
I'm not going up to Walmart customer service like he's
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 7 (45:11):
You anything but I just got stabbed in the parking lot.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
I don't imagine what, but can someone call?
Speaker 7 (45:20):
Like, somebody, can.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
You imagine if there was a line at customer service
return holding your neck waiting important? It's important here.
Speaker 13 (45:32):
Sorry, I don't mean to cut.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
So you're saying that you're gonna I'm not.
Speaker 13 (45:39):
I'm throwing all sorts of things.
Speaker 15 (45:41):
If somebody stabs me in the neck with a syringe.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I thought I would just accept my face.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
It just doesn't involve Walmart's Like, Okay, I guess this
is how I die today.
Speaker 11 (45:51):
So close to the people I would not get like,
especially at wally World, you know, not to.
Speaker 12 (45:56):
Trust people.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Stobbed in the neck with the syringe. At Target, I'd
probably be more okay than if I got one at Walmart.
Speaker 16 (46:05):
I'd be like, you know what, it's the level of
Like Target would be more like yeah, it might be
like drugs, whereas Walmart it might be drugs, you.
Speaker 6 (46:17):
Know what I mean, or bleach or you know, got ammonia.
I don't know, Yeah, could be synid, I don't know,
it could be anything.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
Wally World is another another story of possibilities of what
he could have been injected with.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't know. I just
I don't imagine that he was like cool, calm and collected, you.
Speaker 12 (46:43):
Know where you would at Costco.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
Absolutely not, because Costco is fuck.
Speaker 15 (46:53):
No.
Speaker 6 (46:54):
I believe that Costco would have taken this to another
level of security. They would have taken it, would have
it would have like propelled down from the open ceiling.
He would you this woman would never have made it
(47:15):
in or out. No, no, absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Oh my god, they call in like special forces, the.
Speaker 6 (47:34):
Death eaters operate, and oh my god, this is another
level of I don't even know. All right. Our last
story today is, of course everybody's favorite, especially Olivea, the
Florida Fuckery. No, this is a wild ride, so buckle in.
(47:59):
I'm here like fucking now, you'll get the PSA to
buckland on all the other shit that like a.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
Strap it in a harness, strap it in the roller coaster.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Okay, all right, so we seem to have like a
little bit of a theme here. Convicted criminals who escaped
from prison. Okay, but this story was I mean, it
was just golden Florida fuckery. On December twenty first of
twenty eighteen, convicted felon Alan Todd May So always the
three name people, was able to escape the Inglewood Federal
(48:38):
Correction Institution in Coloradow. So he had served eleven of
the twenty years that he was sentenced to for securities fraud.
He had been convicted for being part of a Ponzi
scheme to the tune of six point eight million dollars.
That's a lot. He was able to use a prison
(49:01):
truck and make it like he took possession of a
prison truck while he was in prison and made it
all the way out of the facility with none the wiser.
No one stopped him and questioned that he should not
be driving that truck.
Speaker 7 (49:18):
He don't look familiar at all, just going on about
your day. Yeah, does it, mullet, The truck doesn't belong
to you, don't drive it.
Speaker 6 (49:31):
Well, he needed to get out of prison. So choices again, Yeah,
choices were made.
Speaker 7 (49:37):
I honestly thought you were going to say eleven days
out of the twenty years he made it that far.
Speaker 6 (49:44):
So there were some leads, one of which showed that
May was able to rent a U haul truck in Denver, Colorado.
The truck would later be abounded found abound it. Oh
my god, found abandoned. That's a word behind a waffle
house of course, in Fort Worth, Texas. Days later waffle
(50:05):
house slaps guys.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Just anyway.
Speaker 6 (50:09):
No one had seen this man since then, and that
is until December twenty twenty two when he was spotted
visiting his mom. Got to visit mama in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 7 (50:19):
Hot.
Speaker 6 (50:19):
That's so swee, I mean, that's so sweet, right, But
it quickly disappeared again, that is until a lead came in.
There was an anonymous tip that there was a gentleman
by the name of Jacob Turner who was a wealthy
man living in the West Palm Beach and Fort Lauderdale
area in Florida, looked suspiciously like Alan Todd May. Jacob
(50:44):
Turner was frequently in Palm Beach society, where he often
would attend fundraisers and galas. He was living this very
affluent and opulent lifestyle. This was apparently his undoing as
a photo and a newspaper of him at a benefit
tipped off this anonymous person that he was indeed Alan
Todd May. When he was caught and arrested, May was
(51:07):
driving a Mercedes Benz valued at one hundred and twenty
five thousand dollars. He was wearing a very expensive Rolex watch,
and this gentleman had been living in a luxurious one
point five million dollar mansion. No idea. I'm not gonna lie.
The pictures of the front of the house remind me
of the Golden Girl's House if it had been like
(51:30):
remodeled and painted white, but literally look the same. Like
the door was to the left there was a two
car garage. The shape of the home was the same.
It was just white, and like the landscape was different.
I swear to God they found the Golden he found
the Golden Girl House. I swear yeah. Although I do
(51:51):
think that house was actually from like La Area. I
don't know. I've read some things on it. Maybe he
had a built I don't know. So Mayo was booked
at the Palm Beach County Jail and he is being
transported back to Colorado to face these charges. There are
allegations that he quote unquote cashed in on seven hundred
(52:15):
thousand dollars from fake energy companies that he had set
up while behind bars. How do you how do you
fucking do that?
Speaker 7 (52:24):
Like?
Speaker 6 (52:24):
And why don't I know how to do that because it's.
Speaker 11 (52:30):
Okay, point stuff their jobs so bad that they let
this this dude from fucking Colorado. I have all this
money in jail.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
I just I don't understand, don't do think that will
get him trouble choices.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
I know, choices.
Speaker 6 (52:49):
Investigators are looking into the possibility that he's set up
fake companies in Texas to declare himself the legal owner
of unclaimed oil and gas royalties in like three different states.
Speaker 11 (53:02):
Holy shit.
Speaker 6 (53:03):
Yeah, I'm I'm honestly, I'm not gonna lie. I'm I'm
very I'm like I set a Google alert because I'm
interested to see whatever fuckery he gets into. Like this
is not the last time that I think we'll hear
from this guy.
Speaker 10 (53:17):
Oh, I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (53:18):
I'm I'm sure there's more and we'll see if he
actually stays in prison this time. I mean, I doubt
it made him far. He really did, and he was
out for a man.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
I would love to talk to him and interview him, right,
you know. Maybe, like now we're on Patreon, maybe if
people donate enough, we can pay for a plane ticket
for me to go to Colorado. Buy me a coffee,
buy me a buy me several coffees, So I can,
you know, go to Colorado and interview this guy in
personally right, just to see what his ideas are and
(53:52):
how we can i mean.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
Legally, what can we take from this like on the
up and up, you know, just.
Speaker 11 (54:03):
Right totally, just just interview him about nothing specific, just his.
Speaker 6 (54:08):
Days in the you know, some tax advice, inst stop it,
get some help, I concur Yeah, I'm just I mean,
I'm here for the ships and giggles. I'm sure that
there's going to be some more fuckery from this guy.
I don't think we've heard the last of Alan Todd
(54:31):
may sound like a Scooby two villain. Oh Alan, You're
so funny, Allen. All right, guys, that wraps up our
first Patreon. Thank you everybody for all the support, Thank
you for all of the laughs that we've shared today.
You're don't forget to check out our regular feed and
(54:54):
we will see you guys soon. Thank you much.
Speaker 13 (54:57):
Bye bye bye bye ye
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