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What if the movies you watch, the books you read, and even the games you play could change your perspective on life? This episode promises to stir your thoughts and challenge your views as we cover a range of engaging topics, sparked off on the backdrop of a recent birthday and a glass of Cava. We share our reflections on the movie "Leave the World Behind," a real-life horror that explores sound as a weapon, and then shift gears towards lighter topics like the surprisingly star-studded "August: Osage County" and our latest reads.

As we sip on our Trader Joe's Cava, we delve into the controversial topic of flavored tobacco, discussing its impact on young people and the implications of recent regulations. A recent incident involving the illegal import of vapes raises questions about the effectiveness of bans versus tighter regulations. Is the prohibition on flavored tobacco inadvertently increasing marijuana consumption among teenagers? We also touch on the ethics of zoos and animal captivity, advocating for stricter regulations and sharing our thoughts on the influence of corporations on our environment.

Finally, we turn our attention to sustainability and mindful consumption - two topics that have become increasingly relevant in our daily lives. Instead of hopping on the trendy sustainability bandwagon, we urge you, our listeners, to be conscious consumers and make choices that align with your values. We wind up our discussion with a look at government ethics and their role in maintaining ethical standards in our lives. As we wrap up, we promise our next episode will bring some holiday cheer into your life. So, join us in our delightful exploration of these diverse topics and let's together make the world a better place.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone and welcome to an episode of 1.30
where I am a year older.
Well, technically you know aweek older, but my age has a new
number since last episode.
You're brand new.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
How do you?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
feel Less new.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Why.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm just older, so I'm less new than I was before.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Like what are you?
You 37 now.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
No, I almost said I wish I'm just kidding You're
like I wish I'm 37.
No, I'm 34, but I've spent allyear like saying I was 34, and
now that I'm actually 34, I'mlike, oh, now I have a whole
another year being 34.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm gonna be 37.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, he spent all year thinking he was 37 and just
realized he was 36.
You know he's feeling prettygood too.
Yeah, birthdays are justinteresting as an adult because
it's like every single day ofadulthood.
You have the choice to dowhatever you want, so you could
technically celebrate like it'syour birthday every day, I mean,

(01:03):
if you're in the position to doso.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, I think birthdays is just like supposed
to be, a celebration of your.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I know, but I could celebrate my age every day.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Be like another day older.
What would you do for yourbirthday then?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Nothing.
Spend all year celebratingbeing another day older, and
then my birthday rolls around,and then just do nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Like, do nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Like sit in an empty room all day and just Like
punish yourself for partying sohard.
Yeah, like we partied all yearlong.
And now, today is the day ofnothing.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Today's the day of repent.
We'll get the whips out.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Okay, so on this episode we will be talking about
supplemental messaging animalsand captivity, and that Tesla
recall.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
We'll also be talking about illegal e-cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Illegal e-cigarettes Ooh.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
So what are you drinking?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I am drinking an M Chevalier Cava from Trader Joe's
6.99 and I mixed it with Samojeto make a little mimosa.
This is like probably one of mymost frequently bought
sparkling wines.
Like in general, because it'sso good in a mimosa it's a nice.

(02:25):
Like brute Cava, which Cava isjust the Spanish version of,
like Prosecco or Champagne.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
It's nice to good OJ wine.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, for sure.
It's like nothing to write homeabout by itself, but it like
complements the mimosa.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's pretty sparkling , if I remember correctly.
Like the bubbles are prettyvigorous.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah.
So I heard with sparkling winethat the smaller the bubbles,
the better quality the sparklingwine versus big bubbles.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I don't know anyone out there measuring bubbles, but
oh, the like experts ofsparkling wines.
I heard your wine bubbles more.
If you, it's dirty glass.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
It bubbles more.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
But I'm saying, the smaller bubbles are better
quality.
So you want teeny tiny littlebubbles, not big bubbles.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, but then, quantity wise, I think it has to
do a lot with the dirty glass.
Yeah.
I also feel like you get biggerbubbles with the dirty glass
too.
Maybe, I don't even know who's?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
drinking wine out of a dirty glass.
So, but you know if your glasshas been sitting up on the shelf
for a really long time.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
And you don't like, yeah, whatever, yeah.
Or if you go to like arestaurant and they pour your
wine and you're like, ooh,that's a dirty glass.
They did not sanitize that wellat all.
There you go.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Seven Like another glass Clean.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
And then they get all angry behind the scenes and are
chucking stuff behind them.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
They get all angry and they like give you the
dirtiest glass.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, so where would I drink this wine?
In a mimosa?
In the evening we're watching amovie on the projector screen.
We got a projector screen.
So it feels like a movietheater in our house.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Just the screen.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, we got the projector screen, but the screen
is like a hundred inches, so itfeels large, like it's longer
than our bodies, if you like.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, I like projectors, so it's kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, the one downside is how much room it
takes up, like the screen itself.
We have where it takes upminimal space, I guess, but then
you have to have the projectorlike nine feet back and then
that takes up, like we just haveit like in the middle of a room
, set up behind the screen sothat it works.

(05:05):
Yeah, and then we're like sorry, baby, this was your playroom.
Now it's the projector room.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Well, we'll probably move stuff around and figure out
a better way.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, and the projector may be something that
we like take down and put up forspecial occasions too.
Yeah, I may not be just up allthe time.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
That was originally the idea that I was having.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's just been so nice.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
It is really nice.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
So what we've been watching this week?
We watched Leave the WorldBehind on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Really good.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I feel like it was basically just nightmare fuel
and like the sense that theytook every bad dream I ever had
and like put it all in one movie, Aside from aliens who were no
aliens, but everything else, butthere were really creepy deer.
And there was like one part ofthe movie where I was like is
this an alien movie?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And it was I just kept saying that over and over
again.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I'm like no, it's not Like nothing alien has happened
.
She's like what is that sound?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh the sound.
Oh, my gosh was so bad.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
And I'm like I knew that well.
I don't want to spoil anything,but basically they play a sound
that is a bursary or drums,essentially.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, if it was actually at the volume that it
was happening for the charactersin the movie, it probably was
actually exists in real life.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Did you know that they have weapons like that?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I know they do.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I think they're inhumane, like on the list of
any main weapons, but but treeshave been known to use those.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, great cast.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Really good cast.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Hirschla Lee, julia Roberts, ethan Hot, kevin Bacon
all the good.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
the list goes on yeah .

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Really enjoyable, probably better than I thought
it would be when I watched thetrailer.
Yeah.
Because the trailer just showedlike the little girl in the
deer.
I was like, okay, so there'sdeer that are just staring at
this movie.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'm just going to give this a 10 out of 10 because
I feel like it just maybe it'sjust a hype, but I just feel
like it was really well done.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
And it seemed realistic and it kind of creeps
me out that Obama was one of theproducers of the movie.
Yeah.
So that in itself makes itcreepier.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Makes it sound like they had like input of top
security intel.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, so we also watched Josie and the Pussycats
today, which Andrew had neverseen.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
He also evidently has not read the comics or seen the
cartoon.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
She acts like it's so popular.
I thought it was a band.
It is so popular this wholetime.
I thought it was a band.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I mean, it is a band, it's a girl group, it's fake
band.
It's fake band.
It's a band in Riverdale.
It's in the same world as, likethe Archie comics, which I
never read or watched either.
I know it's just so weird tolike that was such a popular
cartoon in the 70s, before youwere born.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
But it was a great show.
That's like me getting on youabout not watching Star Wars.
Except for Star Wars is like Iwatched Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I wish all the old Star Wars.
The only Star Wars I haven'tseen is the newest Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
You saw one, two and three.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Like the originals.
You mean four, five and six.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
No, the ones after that.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, then I saw those on opening day.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Okay, well, I don't know.
I thought you didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I did with Jar Jar.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Jar Jar, is he your favorite?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, I hate Jar Jar.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Why.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
But I like Jabba.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Do you think Jar Jar is racially insensitive?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
It's been a long time since I've seen it, but
probably it wouldn't surprise me.
I feel like half the charactersin Star Wars are kind of
racially insensitive.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, Jargar is an alien, so Well, technically
they're all aliens.
They can get away with himbeing like loopy and dumb or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Okay, so what I've been reading.
I've still been working onGoblet of Fire with the baby and
then I got back into LoreOlympus and it's kind of like
all I can think about when Ithink about reading things where
I'm like I just want to readmore Lore Olympus but I don't
really have anyone to talk to itabout.
Talk about it with.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
You gotta start a pin board.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
A Pinterest board.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
No, like a forum or something.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
I'm sure they have one.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
actually, I bet Reddit has like a huge Lore
Olympus thing or something Idon't want to use Reddit I don't
want to use Reddit either, butI feel like you get like a very
narrow minded perspective onthat platform.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Like everyone's so aligned.
It's like a hive mind kind ofthing.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, I was telling you like there's that girl that
I follow on Instagram who haslike over a million followers,
but there's like a whole Redditgroup that just bashes her all
day.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
That's awful.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like four and a half thousand women That'll be like
look how fat her face lookstoday.
There's high lines and you'rejust like what Like how much
time do you have on your handsto one watch everything this
person does all day and thenlike to screen cap it and post
about it?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
and like trash talk people I'm like.
I don't get it.
I used to go on Reddit andenjoy like reading some of the
stories, but I felt like it alljust blends together after a
while.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh.
And like you're getting similarLore Olympus is like a great
Tumblr thing.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, tumblr, I bet.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Tumblr has a bunch of like fan art and stuff on there
.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
That's a good point.
I should pop on Tumblr.
I gotta get back on Tumblr.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Every so often I redownload it and I use it for
like a week or two, and thenit's like.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I feel like if Tumblr didn't sell out, they would
have been like really, reallygood alternative right now,
especially with all the Twitterburning trash cans.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, I don't even check Twitter or X anymore.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, when I see it, though, it's not even really
appealing to see.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
No.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like oh, in the news they're always like so, and so
said blah, blah, blah on X, andI'm like X who named their
company X, unless they're gonnalike force you to use X in your
Tesla.
I guess they go together, kindof you know, so I have been

(11:32):
reading the same thing I wasreading last week Behold
Behemoth.
So I'm a little bit furtheralong in that it's fantasy.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Cool, yeah, cool cool .
So I haven't been playinganything new this week, but
Andrew did get me a new cribbageboard.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So we're gonna pick up cribbage again here.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I've been picking up chess games.
Lindsay complains about it.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
No, he just always chooses, like the most
inopportune times to look at hischess board.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I just I have these games going on that take like I
have like 24 hours to move and,if I know, if I put it off and
don't at least glance at theboard, I won't, I won't start
thinking about it, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
So yeah, but he'll just randomly, just like have
chess up on his phone, like inthe middle of doing something
else, when it's like dude.
All right.
Dude.
Okay, so what?
I've been listening to lots ofpodcasts in the middle and I
still I am still enjoying theythought I was you which was the
Mary Keen and Ashley podcast,like all about their movies.

(12:39):
And I listened to an olderepisode the other day and they
had an interview with Jesse Headwho was one of the main actors.
In so Little Time and it waskind of cool to hear like the
behind the scenes, because youdon't really ever hear people
talk about working with likeMary Keen and Ashley.
Yeah.
Like they're, like these elusivepeople that you just don't

(13:00):
really know anything aboutoutside of their body of work.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
So that was kind of cool to hear about.
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I've been listening to a lot of throwback stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Me too Music wise.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I did pick up a DMX like Rough Riders.
You know that Anthem song.
I was listening to that theother day, although I feel like
DMX has a lot of really likeviolent dark music.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
It's hard for me to recommend him, but every now and
then a little DMX, I guess, isfine, especially if you work,
like in a kitchen, or if you'reyou can listen, to have it on
the background or something.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I feel like there's a lot of people like that from
around that time, like the NWAguys.
Yeah.
They all have really greatsongs but, like some of it gets
a little bit dark and a littlebit violent.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
You're like mm.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I mean DMX is dead, dead from an overdose, been dead
so.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I mean Easy, E's also dead.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Man, a lot of people have been dying lately, a lot of
really famous people.
If you think about it OverCOVID, I can't like all the
people.
I can't even name all thepeople that died.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's like when someone will mention someone and
I'll be like, oh yeah, butthey're still alive.
And then they're like SeanConnery's been dead for three
years and I'm like what that'sso?
Weird, like I know that, butlike I don't know that because
so many people died that like mybrain can't fathom anymore.
It's crazy, crazy.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
People die.
That's the circle of life.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I know we were going around talking about what we
were grateful for the other day.
We're like the circle of life.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
It's a good one, you know, Because if you'd had
people living forever, thenthere'd be nothing to stop the
powerful right.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Well, and we are already so overpopulated.
Can you imagine if people arehaving kids but not dying?
Fast yeah.
Like ever.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I can't.
Imagine.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
We'd have to be living on Mars and the moon.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
We'd have to be living on Mars is what I thought
you said, and then my braincorrected it Like ration bars.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh, bars yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I was reading an article about how stacked crops
are not a thing anymore.
You know how like it was athing where it was like oh my
gosh, the food crisis is solved,we can stack our like, we can
stack all our veggies and growthem inside, and I guess it

(15:34):
didn't work.
It fell through and, like allthose businesses failed, so like
that's not a thing anymore, sothere's like nobody stacking veg
anymore and we're back to justgrowing stuff outside flat on
the earth, which is the problem,because we're running out of
farmable land.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Farmable land water.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Water.
Also, a lot of the farmableland that we have been farming
for ages is becoming lessfertile, so we're having to like
pump stuff into it, which isawful as well, because it makes
the variety of what you can growthere much less.
Which is exactly the problemthey were having on the
stackable farms is they couldonly grow like leafy greens.
They couldn't grow like orangesor anything like that, you know

(16:18):
.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, it's kind of like those aero gardens, right,
that people can do inside, whereit's like you can grow lettuce
and you can grow tomatoes, butyou can't grow the majority.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, you can't grow asparagus.
Yeah, you know so.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
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Speaker 3 (18:20):
All right, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yes, welcome.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
So I want to talk about the new bus that just
happened in LA China.
There's I don't know a company,but they tried to import $12
million worth of vapes illegalvapes, wow, so like all that's a
hefty amount.
Yeah, and this was happening,like during COVID.
They were talking about how,like young kids, or just kids in

(18:46):
general, were being impacted byflavored tobacco, and flavored
tobacco is now illegal inCalifornia.
I believe or to sell.
Anyway, I don't know if it'slegal to have.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So I mean I think if you were to buy it in like
Nevada and then have it on youhere, I don't think that's an
issue.
I don't think they could doanything.
But obviously they don't sellit here.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, so they caught a Chinese company trying to
import $12 million worth of itinto LA and I guess they're like
super directed toward youngkids so they like look like and
they have like fancy names likeBubblishus and things like that.
How do you feel about that?

(19:29):
Do you still feel like flavoredtobacco should be legal, or is
that something that you thinkthey're too stringent on?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I kind of feel like they're too stringent because me
, as like a 34 year old adult, Ifeel like if I wanted to be
like I want a flavored cigar,like I should just be able to go
get that right.
Like if I want a grape flavoredcigar Right Like I feel like I
should have the option for that.
But I do think the way thatthey market is a big issue, Like

(20:00):
when they're like Bubblishusand they like make it cool to
have a vape and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I'm not for that.
It almost seems like theyshould be more stringent on
where they're allowed to marketand like how, like proximity to
schools, you know, and likemaybe crackdown on where it's
sold.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like you know how, in a lot of states you have to buy
liquor from a liquor store yeah.
And you can't just buy it fromthe grocery store, like maybe
crackdown on what places areallowed to sell the flavored
tobacco?

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, sell it at like .

Speaker 1 (20:29):
At a pot shop.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Pot shops because you have to show your ID when you
go in.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
They're super stringent when you walk into a
pot shop.
So I feel like if you had toshow your ID and they had to run
it through the system, whateverthey do, like, yeah, like,
that's probably a great place tobe selling flavor tobacco.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
So there's still the issue.
It's kind of like we've proventhat this doesn't work, just
banning things because peoplestill get their hands on it.
Like high schoolers are stillgoing to smoke, so I guess
they're just trying to limit it.
I do know that, like if there'san issue.
So it seems like the issue isthat so many, like high

(21:05):
schoolers and middle schools,are getting their hands on these
things that it's just not worththe time to like.
That's to me what it seems likeand I kind of agree.
Like I want to protect ourchildren, so I agree with the
sentiment, but I don't agreewith how they're going.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I have a question though.
So now that they've outlawedthe sale of flavor tobacco in
California, has the consumptionof marijuana gone up for
teenagers, like because theycan't get vape pens, or more
people being like, oh, I guesswe'll just buy pot.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
That's the funny thing, because I remember from
my experience that whether a kidin my high school was smoking
pot had a lot to do with, likehow they're erased like how
their parents viewed it Like,because if their parents were so
strict on it, those kids may bemore likely or not as likely to

(21:54):
go for it right away.
You know.
But I do know some people whodidn't have very much support
growing up in high school andthey became like drug addicts
after high school, right afterhigh school, you know.
So like I think it has more todo with the lessons you teach,
like no one's going aroundforcing your kids to smoke.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
It's more like a peer pressure thing, and if you can
kind of like not beat your kidup for making a mistake once or
whatever, so I feel like if Renwas to like be a teenager and he
went to a party and was like,oh, I smoked a vape at a party,
I probably wouldn't be too upset.
But if he like had vapes in hisbackpack and was like doing it

(22:36):
all the time, I'd probably belike dude.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, I think like the first time he told me about
it, I'd be like thank you fortelling me.
Like why did you?
I would talk to her.
I'd be like, why did you thinkit's hard as a parent?
Because, like and I get thisnow as an adult, because you
take a tone with your child, Iwould imagine that you don't
even have control over wherethey feel judged.
Exactly so.
You'd want to like keep itlight and be like, oh man,

(23:03):
bummer, Like that's tough man,you know, like I thought that
you were.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know, I know you all get it Instead of that be
like oh, I'm like, I'm reallybummed that your friends
pressured you to do that.
Or if they didn't pressure youand you just wanted to do it.
Then like I don't know, youdon't want to blame your friends
either, you know but like maybeyou're like okay, like you were
curious, you tried it and nowlike you feel like you've done
that.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
I guess I would just approach it like well, what'd
you think about it?
You know, I would ask him likethat Because they may be like it
was gross.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I'm not going to do that again.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, exactly.
And that's hopefully theresponse that you get yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
So, moving on, andrew had never seen Joe seeing the
pussycats.
I never saw it and I made himwatch it this week.
And if you haven't seen it, ithas a lot to do with subliminal
messaging and music.
Right, they put a bunch of likeadvertisements underneath the
music where it's like Orange isthe new point oh yeah.
Buy things in orange.
Nike is the new pooh, butwhatever it is Like do you think

(24:00):
that the government actuallyuses subliminal messaging?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
like that in advertising.
Yeah, there's too much artabout, like there's music that.
I heard subliminal anythingyeah.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
You're like.
Taylor Swift is popular becauseof subliminal messaging.
I actually think the governmentI mean, I'm giving your best
friend.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
I feel like maybe I'm giving like too much credit to
the government, but like Iactually think the government
has a hand in a lot of stuff,because think about it, like why
is Tesla popular?
Like that guy's pissed off somany people, you know.
But I think the government isfunding that and has, like
they're like the dark handbehind his success.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
He gets so many tax breaks for that company.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
He gets a ton of tax breaks Compared to like.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Lexus and places like that that also have like
plugins or all electric cars,Like they're not getting those
same tax breaks.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, Honda wasn't getting any tax tax breaks.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
So I don't know.
I think that the government hasa lot of sway over things, but
I also think I might beoverestimating the influence
they have, or they think theyhave, because there's a lot of
animosity toward the governmentright now, like people do not
trust the government at themoment.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I mean, I don't trust the government at the moment,
so I don't either.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's at the lowest.
It's the lowest amount of trustfor the government that it's
ever been.
Right now.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
So that kind of leads into the Tesla recall.
We also watch leave the worldbehind this week and in the
movie.
This isn't really a spoiler,but there's a bunch of Teslas
that are basically being selfdriven and they're just crashing
into each other.
Yeah because they're beingcontrolled, to like block the
expressways.
Um, how do you feel about thefact that Tesla, right after

(25:35):
this movie came out, I had torecall 200 million vehicles.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So two million vehicles.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I know that there was an open investigation on Tesla
for the safety of their selfdriving, because there was
people like they're like, oh,drop their phone on the ground
and like throw it in selfdriving on the highway and
they've reached down to gettheir phone and, boom, they
crashed the car, they run a stopline and smash into somebody.
So there's like a lot of thatstuff happening and Tesla's kind

(26:05):
of like shirking responsibilitya little bit, saying, oh, it's
not our responsibility to take.
You know, take that and youknow.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I think the way they market it is the issue, though,
because other vehicles have thesame function, but they call it
lane assist, just like.
Oh, if we see you drifting,like we'll like the car, we'll
try to auto correct you backinto the center of the lane.
Yeah whereas Tesla is likeautopilot for real and you're
like well, they're both doingthe same thing, but you're
calling them two completelydifferent things.

(26:34):
Yeah.
And what they should be marketedas is like that lane assist,
like, oh like.
We'll try to keep you in thecenter of the lane If you start
to like veer off a little bit.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, it's like everyone is raving about the AI
and it's like it's advancedsearch, you know, it's like it's
an assistant at best.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Like a search assistant, like a search engine
assistant, like that's all it'sdoing, that's what you should be
calling it search assistant orlike assisted like computer
ability.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
So that's how I feel about the Tesla thing.
I think it's kind of likeoverdue.
They're kind of really unsafecars at the moment and they kind
of brag that they are supersafe cars.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Well, like I know someone who got a Tesla, they
were like driving and selfdriving and like crash the first
time on the highway.
Yeah.
So like obviously that's afrequent thing that happens.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Okay, my last topic is animals and captivity.
For my birthday, we went tothis place.
I'm not going to tell you byname where it is because I don't
want to give them the publicity, but basically it was a place
where you go and you like canbuy tokens and you can feed a
bunch of animals like otters andstingrays and like that, a

(27:52):
sloth and a bunch of like coolbirds and stuff like.
How do you feel about I mean?
obviously you don't think highlyof them but like laws against,
like companies holding wildanimals and captivity for profit

(28:13):
.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Well, that's essentially what a zoo is.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I know like that's why we have like a zoo nearby.
That's like an, a animalsanctuary zoo, where they're
trying to rehabilitate as manyof the animals as possible and
release them back into the wild,aside from the ones that can't
be because of medical issues.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
whatever you're being jerks or whatever, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Um, so, like that I'm all for.
I don't like the idea of zooswhere they're making like
they're profiting off of keepinganimals in captivity, that like
we're either bred intocaptivity or they purchased and
then like put in cages.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Right, I think I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Like can we get some laws on that?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, I think we should be able to get laws.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Should we just be writing our senators every day
being like yo shut down thesecompanies no more?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I don't know.
I think, maybe it would bedifficult, because a lot of our
government officials arebeholden to corporations.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I know.
So it's tough and you know thatall those these would be like.
No, we're conservationists,we're trying to like, help these
animals.
Yeah, I think like this andsurvive.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
There's certain circumstances where, like you
know, you're saying oh well, youhave animals that need shelter,
they can't be released backinto the wild because there are
animals they can't go back totheir yeah Right, like so
rescued animals.
I think there's a place forthem in zoos and in these places

(29:50):
they should call themsanctuaries.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, that's like what the one we like going to is
called is like an animalsanctuary.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Right and like I think that they should be having
a lot more standards, like theyshould be.
Like yo, you've got to letthese animals out to see
daylight, because that was oneof the things that bug me is
like there was no windows and itwas just all indoors and the
animals didn't leave and therewere turtles and I'm like these
things live for like 120 yearsand you have them in this like

(30:17):
two foot by three foot, likelittle area, it's like never to
see daylight, Like it's onething if you keep them in like a
, like, a little.
you know, if you have a petturtle you keep it in your room
or whatever and it's thing.
But then you like take itoutside and you like build a
little area for to like explore,you know yeah.
So they don't have that, youknow, and that kind of bugs me a

(30:37):
little bit.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
And then like how many people because you can pet
the animals or feed the animalsor whatever like how many people
here at the day are just likepoking and prodding these
animals.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Oh yeah, I know it's far out.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
And then there was like a porcupine that was like
hiding in its little thing andthe guy's like, oh, he's like in
there.
You can like look at him, butdon't like Knock on the glass or
anything, because you can seehe scratched it up, because he
gets really angry when peopleknock on the glass.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah like.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
How depressing is that for the work of my leg?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
probably wants to be free and it was probably
displaced, yeah, by the buildingof new structures and and they
just captured it and like, stuckit in like a tiny cage.
Like how screwed up would thatbe?
That's like if you were livinghere in America and like Some
corporation just smashed yourhouse and captured you except

(31:28):
the pork about.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I think was like from Asia or something.
So they literally shipped itacross the world to live in a
tiny little Cage like that'scrazy.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, that happens a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
It bombs me out.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, that's kind of a sad topic.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I know, but you know it was my birthday this week, so
that's a happier topic.
I'm getting older sad.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
The circle of life but you at least you got to do
something.
You know you're learning.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well, and it was like entertaining for our kid at
least, because he got to liketouch a stingray and like that's
what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
For a kid it was probably a blast, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Because he was like whoa.
I've never seen these animals,but for me I'm like sad.
Yeah and I'm like not goingback there and I'm so glad I
didn't buy a membership, or likegive them more money.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, I think we need to be careful about, or pay
more attention, at least for meand Our family about where we're
giving our money, especiallynow that we have a child and
it's like well, every bigcorporation you see right now is
big and popular because Peoplebuy stuff from those

(32:32):
corporations.
So like we just have to paymore attention about where we
are putting our money and stopbeing so impulsive, because I'm
an impulsive buyer right now.
Yeah honestly, you were talkingabout like subliminal messages.
I feel like that's kind of likea huge thing is the government
wants people to consume, right?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
in the leave and like put it under the guise of being
sustainable right.
Oh yeah, it'd be like look,sustainable baby pajamas.
Don't you need some?
Don't you need some more?
They're sustainable, they'lllast forever.
Don't you need some?
Oh, new print, you need it.
How?

Speaker 3 (33:08):
do you print, which I do think that sustainable or
whatever is great.
Yeah, but they shouldn't belike shoving it down your throat
.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Well, it shouldn't be something where you're like, oh
, this is sustainable, but Ineed anyone every week.
Yeah like because it's nolonger sustainable, if you're
just like consuming at such ahigh rate.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, and that's kind of where we're at with like our
government right now.
It's like we don't really thinkour Government has ethical high
ground at this point in time,right, especially with like who
we give our money and whatfloors we fund, you know yeah so
on that note.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
We will talk to you next week for a happy, cheerful
holiday episode.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, happy holidays.
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