December 22, 2023 • 29 mins
From the secret language of scent that lures us toward pretzel stands, to the cozy allure of Uggs, we dive into the subliminal messages that guide our gift-buying hands. And of course, there’s nothing like the nostalgia of classic Christmas films—we’re talking the original 'Grinch'—to really stir up the memories.
What truly makes a gift memorable? We're pulling at the ribbons of this question as we chat about the art of thoughtful present-picking. Is it the flash of a spa day or the thrill of a murder mystery game that lingers in the mind? Maybe it's the shared laughter over a skydiving adventure gift. Through personal tales and listener anecdotes, we explore the delicate balance of gifting, evoking those childhood traditions and seeking out experiences that resonate far beyond the unwrapping.
As the logs crackle and the eggnog flows, settle in for our festive roundup of entertainment musts. We're cozying up with 'Scavengers Reign' and flipping through the 'Lore Olympus' series, while 'James Bond Agent of Spectra' has us on the edge of our seats. But it's not just about the visuals—join us as we let the spoken word wisdom of Ram Dass wash over us, contemplating the unconditional love this season inspires. Share your own Christmas capers with us on Spotify and let's make this holiday one for the books.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the special 2023 holiday episode of
Wine 30.
Today we will be talking aboutfun holiday topics versus
depressing news topics, meaningwe'll be talking about mindful
gifting and memorable Christmascommercials and favorite
Christmas memories.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And subliminal messages.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Then we talked about subliminal messages, last week
too.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, I'm just gonna be a recurring topic.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Because there was something we were talking oh, we
were talking about giftsearlier and he was like
subliminal messaging.
He's like it's real, it's real.
So today I am drinking a DomainVettitrici Rose, it is 2022,
from France, and let's takeanother sip here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I've decided I'm gonna pick up drinking in the
new year.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Like light drinking.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like I just decided that right now.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
He's like I'm gonna start heavily drinking as soon
as it hits January 1st.
Yep Benji.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Benji drinking.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You'll be like what's your resolution for 2024?
Benji, everything Food alcohol.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Visit every winery on the West Coast.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That would be a doozy .
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I could do.
It Wouldn't be that hard.
In one year you could do likethree wineries a day.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I know that like just the Lodi area, I thought had
like 300 just right there.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh man, you have to do more than three today, then.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And Navajo I know has several hundred.
Santa Barbara, I'm sure, has alarge amount too.
It'd be hard.
You'd have a rough time.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm gonna do it.
That's a new resolution, maybenot next year, but next year.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
In the whole West Coast or just California.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well, I feel like in Washington you're probably not
gonna have a crazy number ofwineries, but California alone
probably has like over 600.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, I know Walla, Walla itself has which is a
small, maybe over 6,000.
Walla.
Walla is a smaller town and Ithink even they had like 30 or
40 wineries just right there.
Okay so this wine is floral.
I wouldn't call it a dry wine,but it's not necessarily sweet
either.
Like a hint of sweetness, nice,beautiful pink color.
(02:18):
I would probably say this wouldbe best suited with like a
spicy seafood type dish, becauseI feel like the slight, like
floridly sweetness would offsetthe spice and be a nice
compliment to each other.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Noice.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, so if I was like on the coast, eating spicy
seafood and drinking this wine,I feel like that's a pretty good
scenario.
Okay, so do you wanna talkabout what we've been watching?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I've been watching a show called
Scavengers Reign.
It's on HBO and it's sci-fiadult animation.
It's pretty spectacular as faras, honestly, I'm surprised more
people aren't talking about it.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I had not heard about it at all and Andrew was like
what's that show I've beenwatching and I was like I don't
know, I've been sleeping.
But I looked it up and I waslike this is 100% on Rotten
Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, it's so well done and it's so creative and I
think that it should be gettingmore recognition.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, I've just been watching a lot of old Christmas
movies.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Frosty.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Rudolph.
Santa Claus is coming to townlike all the good, the Grinch.
Which do you have like afavorite Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I liked the Grinch.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But the OG Grinch though right.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, I like, I guess I like.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I always thought they were longer, but all the
Rudolph ones I know I used tothink they were like two, three
hours long or something and I'mlike they're like 40 minutes
probably start to finish.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, I'm not sure I have to look at them all and see
.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I feel like all of the other, reindeer always has
like a soft spot in my heartbecause I remember when it
premiered, like watching it liveon TV and being like what a
great new movie.
This is amazing.
So all of obviously.
And then older movies the OGGrinch is probably probably my
(04:34):
favorite.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
OG Grinch.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Like over the Jim Carrey or the new animated one.
What I've been reading, I'vebeen like binge reading the
Royal Olympus where, like everytime I have like a spare five
minutes, I've been reading achapter just constantly.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I've been reading for that for a while now.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, I mean, when I started, there were already 250
something episodes, and everyweek they come out with more, so
, like by the time I catch up,there'll be new ones.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I picked up a new comic book, or new to me James
Bond Agent of Spectra.
It just came out.
It's basically James Bondinfiltrating Spectra and dealing
a big blow.
So it just came out.
So I can't wait for the nextinstallment and I've been
(05:28):
reading.
That's what I've been reading,and then I've been playing Torn
and Chess and he's also beenplaying Torn.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I got sucked in .
There was something he wasdoing where I was like, oh,
maybe you were traveling to getplushies or something for his
story.
He's like, oh, I need to travelto whatever South Africa to get
plushies or whatever.
And I was like plushies, whatis he getting plushies for?
And then all of a sudden Ifound myself on the game and
then he's like oh, but you know,it only benefits me if you at
(05:57):
least reach level 10 or 15 orwhatever.
He's like you're not going tomake it and I was like challenge
accepted.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I thought you'd get bored, so yeah, getting through
it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I'm on level 13 now it's cranking through the game.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I've been listening to Ram Dass.
He's like a spiritualmeditation guide Kind of so he
just does like very mellowspoken word music.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And he's all about like loving everyone.
He's like I talked to myspiritual guidance guide or my
guru and he said love everyone.
And he said I just couldn't doit.
I've got too much judgment inmy heart.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Andrew, all day today has been like I judge people
too much.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think that we do, you know, because you should
love everyone.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I know like everyone's living the human
experience for the first time,right Like we're all here just
doing our best to like live thishuman experience, Some doing
better than others, some beingmore corrupt or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But if you treat people the way you would a loved
one, you know like you wouldn'tbe like condemning them to hell
just because they cut you offor you wouldn't be bombing
people and killing innocentcivilians.
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You wouldn't kill somebody, you wouldn't bomb them
if you loved them.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Maybe that's what I should be listening to at night.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I think it's really good.
I think he's inspirational.
I think there's a lot of peoplelike that, but he's also in a
wheelchair.
I don't know if he's even alive.
I should check.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I've been listening to the book Psyche and Eros,
which is about the Greekmythology, because it kind of
ties into, like Lord Olympus,and both of these are characters
that are in the world Olympusas well, and it's basically like
a retelling of their story,which, if you don't remember,
he's like the God of desire,right, and he's cursed to fall
(08:01):
in love with, like this mortalwoman, but if she looks at his
face, they're separated forever.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I've heard of this, and he also only comes at night
because then he can.
She can't see his face, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So it's like basically like a retelling of
this, but like she's like awarrior and stuff in this.
So it's like kind of coolbecause she's not just like oh.
I'm pretty made and he doesnothing Like it's.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I remember studying him in a philosophy class.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I actually.
He's probably one of myfavorite, like Greek His story
is interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's like what kind of message were they trying to
like instill in people?
Cause obviously it's a way toteach people a lesson, right?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, I guess they're all kind of like cautionary
tales in some sort of way, right.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I don't really remember what his, his whole
deal is, but which in LordOlympus, he's like one of the
more likable gods.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Some of the gods are like he's supposed to be
incredibly handsome.
Yeah, but he's very likepersonable and he's always like
being like a confident for a lotof people, whereas like Apollo,
who I used to always be like,oh, apollo's like a pretty good
guy, apollo's a douche bag.
Zeus also Biggest douche bag.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
He's always been kind of a.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Poseidon's just like a loopy dude.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
He's just like a kind of a luth.
Kind of reminds me of our dog.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And then Hades is obviously they make to be like a
really cool character becauseit's mainly about Hades.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
The devil's got to be cool.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And you know he has a sheba, so of course Hades would
have a sheba, yeah, so Ibasically chose to check that
out from the library to listento, because it kind of goes with
what I've been reading, allright, and it kind of like ties
it together.
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Now let's talk about theholidays.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Let's.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I'll kick it off with an easy question for you.
Do you prefer giving orreceiving gifts?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I actually don't like .
Speaker 1 (11:56):
He's like I hate gifts all together, I just hate
that idea.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think that gifts are nice to make.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So like in that regard, I really do enjoy them.
I don't really I like receivinggifts if they're thought, if
they're like receptive to what Iwant, but if it's just stuff, I
don't really like giving juststuff or receiving just stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Well, that's what I was gonna say.
I like giving gifts.
I don't like giving gifts outof obligation.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Like, if I see something and I'm like, oh man,
this would be so perfect forthis person, they're gonna love
this Then I love giving thatgift.
If I'm just like, oh man, Ijust need to get something to
give this person because we'regoing to this holiday thing and
I don't know what to get them,so I'll just get them something.
Like I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
That never feels good .
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I mean, I know that you need to like put some
thought into it and then make adecision right About what you
want to get somebody.
And sometimes that is just youhave to get something right
Because you're like I don't wantto like be the only person that
didn't bring something.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Or be like I don't want to be like, oh sorry, I got
gifts for everyone else but notyou, because I couldn't figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm kind of like thinking I like to get people
consumables and experience stuff.
So like a bottle of wine is areally nice gift, or like an
experience like you could getthem a couple of nights, day and
a spa, you know or a massage ormassage, yeah, so I like that
idea, but I also think it'sweird at the same time.
(13:24):
I don't know, I'm a weirdperson.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But then there's like what I got my mom, which I
talked about on like one of ourrecent episodes anyway, like how
I got her like that murdermystery thing she can do with
her friends.
Or it's like, yes, it's aphysical item, but it's more of
like oh, she can invite herfriends over and have like an
experience, and it's like awhole night versus like just
(13:49):
stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, that's cool.
I think you have to also beaware of how people feel about
stuff.
For instance, if you're goingto get somebody a pedicure but
they're weird about peopletouching their feet, that's
something to be concerned aboutwhen you're shopping for
somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh yeah, for sure.
And I know some people likedon't like massages, or like go
into a hotel.
Stress is the mount, becausethen they go.
Oh well, now I need a dogsitter, now I need a cat sitter.
Now I need to think about this.
What do I need?
A babysitter, do I like there's?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
all those things that go into it.
It can be difficult.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, like I would love to give to more, like
concert tickets or comedytickets or things like that, but
for a lot of people you're likethen requiring them to be free
on whatever night.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Right.
And like or like, if you'relike, hey, we got you a rapes
rapes, a ropes course, yeah,ticket, and you know they're
afraid of heights.
That would be like not such agood gift, right.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't know.
Sometimes it's nice to bepushed to do something, though,
too.
Yeah, like if someone is to getme a ropes course ticket, like
I'm scared of heights, but Iwould probably try it anyway,
just because I'd be like, oh,like they bought this for me and
I really want it to like, atleast give it a go, I think, if
they surprised you maybe ifthey're like it's a surprise
where I'm taking you, and thenthey're like ropes course.
Yeah, that was the thing Likewhen we were first dating.
(15:17):
I got you like the skydivingfor your birthday, but I didn't
tell you that we just like drovethere, right.
I'm not really afraid ofheights, though I know but I was
kind of like I didn't want youto like second guess and be like
, do I want to do it, do I notwant to do it?
Like I just drove you there andyou didn't have time to think
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I mean, it was really exciting, that was really fun.
Good gift, yeah, good birthdaygift, skydiving good one.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I know.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Maybe I'll take you skydiving.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, please do not.
Don't do that, especially nowthat I'm a parent.
That would even give me moreanxiety Cause not only would I
die but, like my child, wouldn'thave a mother anymore.
That'd be really hard.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I would really concern you cause you wouldn't
be around to be concerned.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, I'd be concerned as I was jumping out
of the plane, and then I panic,and then I had to have a panic
attack and then I wouldn't pullmy parachute because I'd be
blacked out.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well, you're attached to somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I know, but what if they black out Cause I'm
freaking out and I punch them inthe face?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, I don't think you can punch them in the face.
It doesn't matter, we don'thave to settle on that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay, what would you say is like the most memorable
Christmas commercial you saw asa kid.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Probably some co-commercial, the co-commercial
with the bear.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Are those like Christmas commercials though?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
See, like my first thought was like Disneyland,
where they're like surprisingthe kids and they're like, guess
what?
We're going to Disneyland.
They're like, oh my gosh,that's the happiest day of my
life.
But then I was thinking aboutit and I was like, were those
actually Christmas commercialsor were they just commercials
for Disneyland, just in general,that they played all year?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't know, I do not know.
I just never remember seeingthose co-commercials and they
stuck with me and that's thefirst thing that came to my mind
.
I don't know, I don't reallydrink Coke all that much, so I
don't know if they're effective.
That much subliminal messaging.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Andrew's been feeling like they're like since we
watched Josie and the post-itcats especially.
You've been feeling like you'vebeen experiencing a lot of
subliminal messaging telling youyou need specific products.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You know, especially around this time of year when
you have to be out shopping andyou're like going to the mall,
say, I feel like there is a lotof stuff that they do to
influence you to buy stuff,Especially like Spencers or like
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you know, or like the pretzelplace where they've got like a
bit of a smell.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Andrew's a sucker for the pretzels, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
He's a sucker for the pretzels but, like you know,
like they're doing stuff,Cinnabon I would never buy a
Cinnabon, but someone's buyingCinnabon.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And he was like I would never buy a Cinnabon.
But my friend I went with,bought a Cinnabon and we shared
the Cinnabon and then it rockedmy stomach.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
The friend I went with.
I was like, what kind ofcinnamon do they use?
And he's like, are you serious?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Is it sad that-.
He's like, let me ask Now thatAndrew's been like really
serious about his cinnamon.
Now there was something I waslike oh, I was looking at like
cinnamon essential oil the otherday and I was like, well, what
type of cinnamon do they use fortheir essential oils?
Like that is what crossedthrough my mind and I was like I
can't buy this because I don'tknow what type of cinnamon they
use.
And I was like it's anessential oil, does it even
matter?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
But I decided that I couldn't have that because-.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
One cinnamon gives you cancer and the other one-.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Has a bunch of health benefits.
Has a bunch of health benefits.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So it's like you gotta kind of pay attention.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I said like Kasia cinnamon or something, and I was
like, was that the good one orthe bad one?
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So didn't buy it.
But I do think there is alittle bit of subliminal
messaging, especially withbranding, like when you walk
through a mall or even if you'reat home and you're like my feet
are cold, I need some Uggs.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Like.
What kind of branding is that?
That all of a sudden you'relike my feet are cold.
It's not that I need socks orslippers, it's I need Uggs.
I need this specific pair ofUggs.
I need the Tasman slippers.
I need them now because my feetare cold Like-.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
That's what's ingrained in our brains.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And, honestly, I never even had Uggs until I
started dating Lindsay and shegot me some Uggs and then, ever
since then, I've been a big fan.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh, I did get you.
They were like.
What were they called?
Like the Ascotts or whatever?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, they were just like loafers.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Which you wore those until they like fell apart.
Yeah, I tell you got holes inthem and then you've had a few
pairs of bugs since, just cuzthey're cozy.
And then Andrew bought me apair of like the, the fuzzy
slipper ones.
I love those, they're fantastic, but you know that's subliminal
messaging, like goddess forsure.
Um, okay, so what were yourfavorite Christmas traditions as
(20:05):
a kid, or like, did you haveany Christmas traditions?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, I Don't know if it was Christmas traditions as
much as just routine.
Mm-hmm like we would just getup in the morning and then we'd
open presents in the morning,you know, and then there would
always be like a big breakfast,which is always awesome.
So that was what I remember asa kid.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
See, I feel like mine was very similar, like I
switched off every other year.
So like one year I would haveChristmas Eve with my dad and
then Christmas day with my mom,and then it would swap Every
other year.
So I had like two Christmasesback-to-back, but both it was
like you get up early in themorning and you do presents and
big breakfast and and like thatwas the day.
(20:54):
But it was interesting because,like because we swapped whose
house we were at For Christmasday.
Every year Santa only showed upto the house you were at on
Christmas day.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So, like Christmas Eve, you would only just have
gifts from like your parent, andthen, like that other, like
Christmas day, you would haveSanta gifts under the tree.
Oh, never, like you never hadSanta gifts on Christmas Eve.
I see that's makes a lot ofsense but they both did it
similarly, where they wouldn'twrap Santa gifts, they would
just have the Santa gifts underthe tree and then they, like
(21:28):
parent gifts or whatever, wouldbe wrapped always.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
But huh, I Do know that when we live closer to
family we would go see family on.
Christmas as well, because welive in the same neighborhood.
Yeah, I was a lately.
It's that's what we do now, butit's harder to do that, I think
.
Yeah you know, unless you'regonna stay and like a Airbnb, or
(21:58):
you know you're gonna stay overthe night, but then you're kind
of missing out on that morningtradition that you have where
you're like that's a family time, you know, for instance.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
yeah, I think it's just, it's good, I think this
year is interesting because it'slike now that we have like our
own, like little family, youkind of want to be like, oh,
like we want to start our owntraditions, but also we live
close enough to family we candrive to see family.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I know some of the traditions I want to start are
like using less wrapping paperand boxes.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
That was actually something I was going to discuss
too is like how can we get to,please, we're not just like
mindful about the gifts we give,like oh, I put thought into
this, but being mindful of, likewhat creates waste, like what.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, what's recycle clutter like because wrapping
paper goes into the landfill.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And how many boxes, like, when you buy a product it
comes in a box in the mail,right, you throw out that box.
But then you buy another giftbox to put the gift in, to wrap
in paper, to use a bunch of tapeto have it unwrapped, to like
go through this whole thing andit's like how much junk are we
using just to Get a present tous?
Wrap the present, unwrap thepresent, like just packaging.
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Also, the tape that your boxeshave on them is not recyclable.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So when you put that in a recycle, somebody either
has to take that tape off, or itburns off, or it doesn't
recycle, or they sniffed throughit and say oh.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
This isn't even recyclable.
Like let's just chuck all thisstuff because it's all covered.
Yeah, so it depends on who'sworking on a lot of wrapping
papers Not recyclable.
Right, because it's notrecyclable.
So it depends on who's workingin a lot of wrapping papers not
recyclable, right, because it'seither like waxier has glitter
or yeah, I like in fact, I don'tthink any wrapping paper is
really unless it says Recyclematerial every so often you can
get like wrapping paper that'smore like Almost feels like
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paper baggy.
Yeah, that's like that type ofstuff.
I think it's, but like anythingthat's like printed Gin, like
honestly the best wrapping paperis the funny section in
newspapers like black and white.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Oh yeah like that is the best wrapping paper you can
find, because one you're gettingthe newspaper anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then, like you can read the comics before you
like, open it up.
Yeah, and that's completelyrecyclable.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, that's like 100%.
What boxes are made out ofsometimes?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Okay, my very last question for you what is your
favorite Christmas memory?
Christmas memory from anyChristmas.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, that's a tough question.
Rain for me to answer right now.
What do?
Why don't you go first?
What's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
See, this is difficult because I feel like I
have, like I'm like, how can Ichoose one family's memories
over the other, right, but twothat stick out to me like
gift-wise or likeexcitement-wise.
So when I was seven I like wentin and I had like oh, here's
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like my Barbie movie theater andstuff that I got from Santa.
But I got this gym in theholograms VHS tape.
I had never seen gym in theholograms before and it was like
life-changing and I watchedthat video like on repeat for
years.
So I feel like that was justexciting in itself, like a VHS
tape, something I've like nevereven experienced, but it's like
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the most incredible cartoon I'veever seen.
And then at my dad's house oneyear he like built me a computer
and his name was Kitty.
He said Kitty on it and it waslike blue, because it was like
around Y2K, when like they'd belike frosted blue color.
Now the fact that one he likebuilt the computer was like
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really cool and two like Kittywas the best computer.
That computer lasted me likethrough high school and it was
like the most amazing thing ever.
And having like my own computer, I think, was just like
mind-blowing, like gift-wise.
Those are the things that standout.
But something that I loved,loved, loved as a kid was
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Christmas Eve.
To keep us from like justwanting to like stay up and wait
for Santa, to make us reallytired, we would always go and
see a movie on Christmas Eve atthe movie theater.
So, like, one year it was SantaClaus, one year it was the Lion
Cake, like it was whatever wasin theaters at the time and even
if the movie sucked like JackFrost was a crappy movie, but
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like I really enjoyed going tothe theater on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think I have a lot of nostalgic feeling for all
those movies and shows, eventhough they kind of aren't that
great or some of them are good.
And then I think some of thebest gifts were like I think I
got a Game Boy with Pokemon oneyear and that was pretty awesome
.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I can't remember.
Oh, I got a Nintendo.
When I got a Nintendo SuperNintendo, that was huge.
That was Christmas and that washuge, I must have been five.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You're like I was five years old and it was the
best Christmas about life.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, maybe six, but it was yeah.
I don't even remember theChristmas as much as I remember
like, wow, oh my gosh, I justthought of another great memory.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So there was one year my dad brought me to the store
and he was like, oh, can youhelp me pick out gifts for your
sister for Christmas?
And I like picked out all thisstuff for my sister for
Christmas.
And then he did the same thingwith my sister, right?
He brought her to the store andwas like, oh, can you like pick
out things for Lindsay forChristmas?
And then we got up Christmasmorning and the gifts I had
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picked for my sister were outfor me and the gifts she had
picked for me were out for her,because he knew that we were
going to pick out the items thatwe wanted.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
More so than what our sister wanted, and the funny
thing is, we picked almost theexact same items, that's funny.
We picked like the same dollfurniture, the same dolls, like
everything, and it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
It'd be funny if he forgot who picked what.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It just missed him up .
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I think Lindsay picked this, but I don't know.
They looked the same to me.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
But we legit picked like the same doll furniture,
like the same type of doll, thesame like everything, and I
think it's just so funny.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But that was a really great memory because it was
like Wait, so that was Ashleyand you.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So what about your other sister?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I don't know how her presents got picked or if they
just like she was like intocompletely different stuff.
It was like it would have beenso obvious, Like, like if we
went to the store and they said,oh, pick things out for
Brittany, Like I wouldn't bepicking things for myself.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
So I don't know exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
They'd be like we just bought our Game Boy and a
soccer ball and called it a day.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Probably yeah.
So that's all for this happyholiday episode.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, happy holidays.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, so if you're on Spotify and you see like the
little question box that'salways there for feedback, you
know, share some of yourfavorite Christmas memories with
us so we can like enjoy yourmemories.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Do it, do it Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So we will talk to you in about a week and a half
for another episode of a wine 30.
Welcome to the special 2023 holiday episode of
Wine 30.
Today we will be talking aboutfun holiday topics versus
depressing news topics, meaningwe'll be talking about mindful
gifting and memorable Christmascommercials and favorite
Christmas memories.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And subliminal messages.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Then we talked about subliminal messages, last week
too.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, I'm just gonna be a recurring topic.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Because there was something we were talking oh, we
were talking about giftsearlier and he was like
subliminal messaging.
He's like it's real, it's real.
So today I am drinking a DomainVettitrici Rose, it is 2022,
from France, and let's takeanother sip here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I've decided I'm gonna pick up drinking in the
new year.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Like light drinking.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like I just decided that right now.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
He's like I'm gonna start heavily drinking as soon
as it hits January 1st.
Yep Benji.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Benji drinking.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You'll be like what's your resolution for 2024?
Benji, everything Food alcohol.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Visit every winery on the West Coast.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That would be a doozy .
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I could do.
It Wouldn't be that hard.
In one year you could do likethree wineries a day.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I know that like just the Lodi area, I thought had
like 300 just right there.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh man, you have to do more than three today, then.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And Navajo I know has several hundred.
Santa Barbara, I'm sure, has alarge amount too.
It'd be hard.
You'd have a rough time.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm gonna do it.
That's a new resolution, maybenot next year, but next year.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
In the whole West Coast or just California.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well, I feel like in Washington you're probably not
gonna have a crazy number ofwineries, but California alone
probably has like over 600.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, I know Walla, Walla itself has which is a
small, maybe over 6,000.
Walla.
Walla is a smaller town and Ithink even they had like 30 or
40 wineries just right there.
Okay so this wine is floral.
I wouldn't call it a dry wine,but it's not necessarily sweet
either.
Like a hint of sweetness, nice,beautiful pink color.
(02:18):
I would probably say this wouldbe best suited with like a
spicy seafood type dish, becauseI feel like the slight, like
floridly sweetness would offsetthe spice and be a nice
compliment to each other.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Noice.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, so if I was like on the coast, eating spicy
seafood and drinking this wine,I feel like that's a pretty good
scenario.
Okay, so do you wanna talkabout what we've been watching?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I've been watching a show called
Scavengers Reign.
It's on HBO and it's sci-fiadult animation.
It's pretty spectacular as faras, honestly, I'm surprised more
people aren't talking about it.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I had not heard about it at all and Andrew was like
what's that show I've beenwatching and I was like I don't
know, I've been sleeping.
But I looked it up and I waslike this is 100% on Rotten
Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, it's so well done and it's so creative and I
think that it should be gettingmore recognition.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, I've just been watching a lot of old Christmas
movies.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Frosty.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Rudolph.
Santa Claus is coming to townlike all the good, the Grinch.
Which do you have like afavorite Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I liked the Grinch.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But the OG Grinch though right.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, I like, I guess I like.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I always thought they were longer, but all the
Rudolph ones I know I used tothink they were like two, three
hours long or something and I'mlike they're like 40 minutes
probably start to finish.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, I'm not sure I have to look at them all and see
.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I feel like all of the other, reindeer always has
like a soft spot in my heartbecause I remember when it
premiered, like watching it liveon TV and being like what a
great new movie.
This is amazing.
So all of obviously.
And then older movies the OGGrinch is probably probably my
(04:34):
favorite.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
OG Grinch.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Like over the Jim Carrey or the new animated one.
What I've been reading, I'vebeen like binge reading the
Royal Olympus where, like everytime I have like a spare five
minutes, I've been reading achapter just constantly.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I've been reading for that for a while now.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, I mean, when I started, there were already 250
something episodes, and everyweek they come out with more, so
, like by the time I catch up,there'll be new ones.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I picked up a new comic book, or new to me James
Bond Agent of Spectra.
It just came out.
It's basically James Bondinfiltrating Spectra and dealing
a big blow.
So it just came out.
So I can't wait for the nextinstallment and I've been
(05:28):
reading.
That's what I've been reading,and then I've been playing Torn
and Chess and he's also beenplaying Torn.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I got sucked in .
There was something he wasdoing where I was like, oh,
maybe you were traveling to getplushies or something for his
story.
He's like, oh, I need to travelto whatever South Africa to get
plushies or whatever.
And I was like plushies, whatis he getting plushies for?
And then all of a sudden Ifound myself on the game and
then he's like oh, but you know,it only benefits me if you at
(05:57):
least reach level 10 or 15 orwhatever.
He's like you're not going tomake it and I was like challenge
accepted.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I thought you'd get bored, so yeah, getting through
it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I'm on level 13 now it's cranking through the game.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I've been listening to Ram Dass.
He's like a spiritualmeditation guide Kind of so he
just does like very mellowspoken word music.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And he's all about like loving everyone.
He's like I talked to myspiritual guidance guide or my
guru and he said love everyone.
And he said I just couldn't doit.
I've got too much judgment inmy heart.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Andrew, all day today has been like I judge people
too much.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think that we do, you know, because you should
love everyone.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I know like everyone's living the human
experience for the first time,right Like we're all here just
doing our best to like live thishuman experience, Some doing
better than others, some beingmore corrupt or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But if you treat people the way you would a loved
one, you know like you wouldn'tbe like condemning them to hell
just because they cut you offor you wouldn't be bombing
people and killing innocentcivilians.
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You wouldn't kill somebody, you wouldn't bomb them
if you loved them.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Maybe that's what I should be listening to at night.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I think it's really good.
I think he's inspirational.
I think there's a lot of peoplelike that, but he's also in a
wheelchair.
I don't know if he's even alive.
I should check.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I've been listening to the book Psyche and Eros,
which is about the Greekmythology, because it kind of
ties into, like Lord Olympus,and both of these are characters
that are in the world Olympusas well, and it's basically like
a retelling of their story,which, if you don't remember,
he's like the God of desire,right, and he's cursed to fall
(08:01):
in love with, like this mortalwoman, but if she looks at his
face, they're separated forever.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I've heard of this, and he also only comes at night
because then he can.
She can't see his face, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So it's like basically like a retelling of
this, but like she's like awarrior and stuff in this.
So it's like kind of coolbecause she's not just like oh.
I'm pretty made and he doesnothing Like it's.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I remember studying him in a philosophy class.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I actually.
He's probably one of myfavorite, like Greek His story
is interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's like what kind of message were they trying to
like instill in people?
Cause obviously it's a way toteach people a lesson, right?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, I guess they're all kind of like cautionary
tales in some sort of way, right.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I don't really remember what his, his whole
deal is, but which in LordOlympus, he's like one of the
more likable gods.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Some of the gods are like he's supposed to be
incredibly handsome.
Yeah, but he's very likepersonable and he's always like
being like a confident for a lotof people, whereas like Apollo,
who I used to always be like,oh, apollo's like a pretty good
guy, apollo's a douche bag.
Zeus also Biggest douche bag.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
He's always been kind of a.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Poseidon's just like a loopy dude.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
He's just like a kind of a luth.
Kind of reminds me of our dog.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And then Hades is obviously they make to be like a
really cool character becauseit's mainly about Hades.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
The devil's got to be cool.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And you know he has a sheba, so of course Hades would
have a sheba, yeah, so Ibasically chose to check that
out from the library to listento, because it kind of goes with
what I've been reading, allright, and it kind of like ties
it together.
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Now let's talk about theholidays.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Let's.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I'll kick it off with an easy question for you.
Do you prefer giving orreceiving gifts?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I actually don't like .
Speaker 1 (11:56):
He's like I hate gifts all together, I just hate
that idea.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think that gifts are nice to make.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So like in that regard, I really do enjoy them.
I don't really I like receivinggifts if they're thought, if
they're like receptive to what Iwant, but if it's just stuff, I
don't really like giving juststuff or receiving just stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Well, that's what I was gonna say.
I like giving gifts.
I don't like giving gifts outof obligation.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Like, if I see something and I'm like, oh man,
this would be so perfect forthis person, they're gonna love
this Then I love giving thatgift.
If I'm just like, oh man, Ijust need to get something to
give this person because we'regoing to this holiday thing and
I don't know what to get them,so I'll just get them something.
Like I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
That never feels good .
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I mean, I know that you need to like put some
thought into it and then make adecision right About what you
want to get somebody.
And sometimes that is just youhave to get something right
Because you're like I don't wantto like be the only person that
didn't bring something.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Or be like I don't want to be like, oh sorry, I got
gifts for everyone else but notyou, because I couldn't figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm kind of like thinking I like to get people
consumables and experience stuff.
So like a bottle of wine is areally nice gift, or like an
experience like you could getthem a couple of nights, day and
a spa, you know or a massage ormassage, yeah, so I like that
idea, but I also think it'sweird at the same time.
(13:24):
I don't know, I'm a weirdperson.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But then there's like what I got my mom, which I
talked about on like one of ourrecent episodes anyway, like how
I got her like that murdermystery thing she can do with
her friends.
Or it's like, yes, it's aphysical item, but it's more of
like oh, she can invite herfriends over and have like an
experience, and it's like awhole night versus like just
(13:49):
stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, that's cool.
I think you have to also beaware of how people feel about
stuff.
For instance, if you're goingto get somebody a pedicure but
they're weird about peopletouching their feet, that's
something to be concerned aboutwhen you're shopping for
somebody.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh yeah, for sure.
And I know some people likedon't like massages, or like go
into a hotel.
Stress is the mount, becausethen they go.
Oh well, now I need a dogsitter, now I need a cat sitter.
Now I need to think about this.
What do I need?
A babysitter, do I like there's?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
all those things that go into it.
It can be difficult.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, like I would love to give to more, like
concert tickets or comedytickets or things like that, but
for a lot of people you're likethen requiring them to be free
on whatever night.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Right.
And like or like, if you'relike, hey, we got you a rapes
rapes, a ropes course, yeah,ticket, and you know they're
afraid of heights.
That would be like not such agood gift, right.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't know.
Sometimes it's nice to bepushed to do something, though,
too.
Yeah, like if someone is to getme a ropes course ticket, like
I'm scared of heights, but Iwould probably try it anyway,
just because I'd be like, oh,like they bought this for me and
I really want it to like, atleast give it a go, I think, if
they surprised you maybe ifthey're like it's a surprise
where I'm taking you, and thenthey're like ropes course.
Yeah, that was the thing Likewhen we were first dating.
(15:17):
I got you like the skydivingfor your birthday, but I didn't
tell you that we just like drovethere, right.
I'm not really afraid ofheights, though I know but I was
kind of like I didn't want youto like second guess and be like
, do I want to do it, do I notwant to do it?
Like I just drove you there andyou didn't have time to think
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I mean, it was really exciting, that was really fun.
Good gift, yeah, good birthdaygift, skydiving good one.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I know.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Maybe I'll take you skydiving.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, please do not.
Don't do that, especially nowthat I'm a parent.
That would even give me moreanxiety Cause not only would I
die but, like my child, wouldn'thave a mother anymore.
That'd be really hard.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I would really concern you cause you wouldn't
be around to be concerned.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, I'd be concerned as I was jumping out
of the plane, and then I panic,and then I had to have a panic
attack and then I wouldn't pullmy parachute because I'd be
blacked out.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well, you're attached to somebody.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I know, but what if they black out Cause I'm
freaking out and I punch them inthe face?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, I don't think you can punch them in the face.
It doesn't matter, we don'thave to settle on that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay, what would you say is like the most memorable
Christmas commercial you saw asa kid.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Probably some co-commercial, the co-commercial
with the bear.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Are those like Christmas commercials though?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
See, like my first thought was like Disneyland,
where they're like surprisingthe kids and they're like, guess
what?
We're going to Disneyland.
They're like, oh my gosh,that's the happiest day of my
life.
But then I was thinking aboutit and I was like, were those
actually Christmas commercialsor were they just commercials
for Disneyland, just in general,that they played all year?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't know, I do not know.
I just never remember seeingthose co-commercials and they
stuck with me and that's thefirst thing that came to my mind
.
I don't know, I don't reallydrink Coke all that much, so I
don't know if they're effective.
That much subliminal messaging.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Andrew's been feeling like they're like since we
watched Josie and the post-itcats especially.
You've been feeling like you'vebeen experiencing a lot of
subliminal messaging telling youyou need specific products.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You know, especially around this time of year when
you have to be out shopping andyou're like going to the mall,
say, I feel like there is a lotof stuff that they do to
influence you to buy stuff,Especially like Spencers or like
(17:45):
you know, or like the pretzelplace where they've got like a
bit of a smell.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Andrew's a sucker for the pretzels, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
He's a sucker for the pretzels but, like you know,
like they're doing stuff,Cinnabon I would never buy a
Cinnabon, but someone's buyingCinnabon.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And he was like I would never buy a Cinnabon.
But my friend I went with,bought a Cinnabon and we shared
the Cinnabon and then it rockedmy stomach.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
The friend I went with.
I was like, what kind ofcinnamon do they use?
And he's like, are you serious?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Is it sad that-.
He's like, let me ask Now thatAndrew's been like really
serious about his cinnamon.
Now there was something I waslike oh, I was looking at like
cinnamon essential oil the otherday and I was like, well, what
type of cinnamon do they use fortheir essential oils?
Like that is what crossedthrough my mind and I was like I
can't buy this because I don'tknow what type of cinnamon they
use.
And I was like it's anessential oil, does it even
matter?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
But I decided that I couldn't have that because-.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
One cinnamon gives you cancer and the other one-.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Has a bunch of health benefits.
Has a bunch of health benefits.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So it's like you gotta kind of pay attention.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I said like Kasia cinnamon or something, and I was
like, was that the good one orthe bad one?
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So didn't buy it.
But I do think there is alittle bit of subliminal
messaging, especially withbranding, like when you walk
through a mall or even if you'reat home and you're like my feet
are cold, I need some Uggs.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Like.
What kind of branding is that?
That all of a sudden you'relike my feet are cold.
It's not that I need socks orslippers, it's I need Uggs.
I need this specific pair ofUggs.
I need the Tasman slippers.
I need them now because my feetare cold Like-.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
That's what's ingrained in our brains.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And, honestly, I never even had Uggs until I
started dating Lindsay and shegot me some Uggs and then, ever
since then, I've been a big fan.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh, I did get you.
They were like.
What were they called?
Like the Ascotts or whatever?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, they were just like loafers.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Which you wore those until they like fell apart.
Yeah, I tell you got holes inthem and then you've had a few
pairs of bugs since, just cuzthey're cozy.
And then Andrew bought me apair of like the, the fuzzy
slipper ones.
I love those, they're fantastic, but you know that's subliminal
messaging, like goddess forsure.
Um, okay, so what were yourfavorite Christmas traditions as
(20:05):
a kid, or like, did you haveany Christmas traditions?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, I Don't know if it was Christmas traditions as
much as just routine.
Mm-hmm like we would just getup in the morning and then we'd
open presents in the morning,you know, and then there would
always be like a big breakfast,which is always awesome.
So that was what I remember asa kid.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
See, I feel like mine was very similar, like I
switched off every other year.
So like one year I would haveChristmas Eve with my dad and
then Christmas day with my mom,and then it would swap Every
other year.
So I had like two Christmasesback-to-back, but both it was
like you get up early in themorning and you do presents and
big breakfast and and like thatwas the day.
(20:54):
But it was interesting because,like because we swapped whose
house we were at For Christmasday.
Every year Santa only showed upto the house you were at on
Christmas day.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So, like Christmas Eve, you would only just have
gifts from like your parent, andthen, like that other, like
Christmas day, you would haveSanta gifts under the tree.
Oh, never, like you never hadSanta gifts on Christmas Eve.
I see that's makes a lot ofsense but they both did it
similarly, where they wouldn'twrap Santa gifts, they would
just have the Santa gifts underthe tree and then they, like
(21:28):
parent gifts or whatever, wouldbe wrapped always.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
But huh, I Do know that when we live closer to
family we would go see family on.
Christmas as well, because welive in the same neighborhood.
Yeah, I was a lately.
It's that's what we do now, butit's harder to do that, I think
.
Yeah you know, unless you'regonna stay and like a Airbnb, or
(21:58):
you know you're gonna stay overthe night, but then you're kind
of missing out on that morningtradition that you have where
you're like that's a family time, you know, for instance.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
yeah, I think it's just, it's good, I think this
year is interesting because it'slike now that we have like our
own, like little family, youkind of want to be like, oh,
like we want to start our owntraditions, but also we live
close enough to family we candrive to see family.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I know some of the traditions I want to start are
like using less wrapping paperand boxes.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
That was actually something I was going to discuss
too is like how can we get to,please, we're not just like
mindful about the gifts we give,like oh, I put thought into
this, but being mindful of, likewhat creates waste, like what.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, what's recycle clutter like because wrapping
paper goes into the landfill.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And how many boxes, like, when you buy a product it
comes in a box in the mail,right, you throw out that box.
But then you buy another giftbox to put the gift in, to wrap
in paper, to use a bunch of tapeto have it unwrapped, to like
go through this whole thing andit's like how much junk are we
using just to Get a present tous?
Wrap the present, unwrap thepresent, like just packaging.
(23:07):
Also, the tape that your boxeshave on them is not recyclable.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So when you put that in a recycle, somebody either
has to take that tape off, or itburns off, or it doesn't
recycle, or they sniffed throughit and say oh.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
This isn't even recyclable.
Like let's just chuck all thisstuff because it's all covered.
Yeah, so it depends on who'sworking on a lot of wrapping
papers Not recyclable.
Right, because it's notrecyclable.
So it depends on who's workingin a lot of wrapping papers not
recyclable, right, because it'seither like waxier has glitter
or yeah, I like in fact, I don'tthink any wrapping paper is
really unless it says Recyclematerial every so often you can
get like wrapping paper that'smore like Almost feels like
(23:44):
paper baggy.
Yeah, that's like that type ofstuff.
I think it's, but like anythingthat's like printed Gin, like
honestly the best wrapping paperis the funny section in
newspapers like black and white.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Oh yeah like that is the best wrapping paper you can
find, because one you're gettingthe newspaper anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then, like you can read the comics before you
like, open it up.
Yeah, and that's completelyrecyclable.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, that's like 100%.
What boxes are made out ofsometimes?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Okay, my very last question for you what is your
favorite Christmas memory?
Christmas memory from anyChristmas.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, that's a tough question.
Rain for me to answer right now.
What do?
Why don't you go first?
What's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
See, this is difficult because I feel like I
have, like I'm like, how can Ichoose one family's memories
over the other, right, but twothat stick out to me like
gift-wise or likeexcitement-wise.
So when I was seven I like wentin and I had like oh, here's
(24:51):
like my Barbie movie theater andstuff that I got from Santa.
But I got this gym in theholograms VHS tape.
I had never seen gym in theholograms before and it was like
life-changing and I watchedthat video like on repeat for
years.
So I feel like that was justexciting in itself, like a VHS
tape, something I've like nevereven experienced, but it's like
(25:12):
the most incredible cartoon I'veever seen.
And then at my dad's house oneyear he like built me a computer
and his name was Kitty.
He said Kitty on it and it waslike blue, because it was like
around Y2K, when like they'd belike frosted blue color.
Now the fact that one he likebuilt the computer was like
(25:32):
really cool and two like Kittywas the best computer.
That computer lasted me likethrough high school and it was
like the most amazing thing ever.
And having like my own computer, I think, was just like
mind-blowing, like gift-wise.
Those are the things that standout.
But something that I loved,loved, loved as a kid was
(25:53):
Christmas Eve.
To keep us from like justwanting to like stay up and wait
for Santa, to make us reallytired, we would always go and
see a movie on Christmas Eve atthe movie theater.
So, like, one year it was SantaClaus, one year it was the Lion
Cake, like it was whatever wasin theaters at the time and even
if the movie sucked like JackFrost was a crappy movie, but
(26:15):
like I really enjoyed going tothe theater on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think I have a lot of nostalgic feeling for all
those movies and shows, eventhough they kind of aren't that
great or some of them are good.
And then I think some of thebest gifts were like I think I
got a Game Boy with Pokemon oneyear and that was pretty awesome
.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I can't remember.
Oh, I got a Nintendo.
When I got a Nintendo SuperNintendo, that was huge.
That was Christmas and that washuge, I must have been five.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You're like I was five years old and it was the
best Christmas about life.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, maybe six, but it was yeah.
I don't even remember theChristmas as much as I remember
like, wow, oh my gosh, I justthought of another great memory.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So there was one year my dad brought me to the store
and he was like, oh, can youhelp me pick out gifts for your
sister for Christmas?
And I like picked out all thisstuff for my sister for
Christmas.
And then he did the same thingwith my sister, right?
He brought her to the store andwas like, oh, can you like pick
out things for Lindsay forChristmas?
And then we got up Christmasmorning and the gifts I had
(27:27):
picked for my sister were outfor me and the gifts she had
picked for me were out for her,because he knew that we were
going to pick out the items thatwe wanted.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
More so than what our sister wanted, and the funny
thing is, we picked almost theexact same items, that's funny.
We picked like the same dollfurniture, the same dolls, like
everything, and it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
It'd be funny if he forgot who picked what.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It just missed him up .
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I think Lindsay picked this, but I don't know.
They looked the same to me.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
But we legit picked like the same doll furniture,
like the same type of doll, thesame like everything, and I
think it's just so funny.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But that was a really great memory because it was
like Wait, so that was Ashleyand you.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So what about your other sister?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I don't know how her presents got picked or if they
just like she was like intocompletely different stuff.
It was like it would have beenso obvious, Like, like if we
went to the store and they said,oh, pick things out for
Brittany, Like I wouldn't bepicking things for myself.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
So I don't know exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
They'd be like we just bought our Game Boy and a
soccer ball and called it a day.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Probably yeah.
So that's all for this happyholiday episode.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, happy holidays.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, so if you're on Spotify and you see like the
little question box that'salways there for feedback, you
know, share some of yourfavorite Christmas memories with
us so we can like enjoy yourmemories.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Do it, do it Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So we will talk to you in about a week and a half
for another episode of a wine 30.
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