April 17, 2024 • 30 mins
Crack open a bottle and join us as my rejuvenated voice teams up with the effervescent pop of Cava Codorniu to toast to life's quirky pleasures. From the crisp, bubbly nuances of our favorite Barcelona Brut Reserve to the subtle art of crafting the perfect dry mimosa, we're serving up a symphony of tastes and tales. Our brunch banter spans from the charm of family-owned eateries to the predictability of dining chains, before taking a sharp turn into the unpredictable realm of reality TV – notably, "The Circle's" latest foray into AI contestants. Can a machine truly mimic the complexities of human emotion and humor? Let's raise our glasses and our eyebrows to find out.
Turning the page, we dive into the bittersweet chapters of our current cultural obsessions, with the final arcs of "Lore Olympus" tugging at our heartstrings. Meanwhile, our gaming exploits in "Torn" and the wild west wonders of "Magic: The Gathering" keep our adrenaline pumping. When it comes to the latest earworms, we've got the lowdown on the infectious beats of Yung Gravy, Jesse McCartney, and Snoop Dogg, and ponder why throwbacks like "One Week" still strike a chord with us decades later. It's a melody of musings that's sure to resonate with fellow cultural connoisseurs.
As we wind down, the conversation shifts to a more contemplative note, exploring the tenuous ballet between wildlife and urban sprawl. We share feather-ruffling stories of peacock run-ins and reflect on the larger tapestry of wildlife management issues, all peppered with a satirical twist. The tech-savvy among us will find intrigue in the discussion on AI-generated voiceovers – is the synthetic voice the future of storytelling, or will the human touch remain irreplaceable? So, uncork your curiosity and join us for a session that's brimming with insight, wit, and a dash of the wild side.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everyone, guess who has a voice this week.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Not Lindsay.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I mean it's better than last week.
For sure, yeah, it does crackevery so often still, but it's
like much, much better.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's a little raspy, but it's getting better.
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
So today I'm actually drinking the wine again.
We have a Cava Cotonor.
It is a limited edition.
It's a Brut Reserve fromBarcelona, Spain.
Do you want to guess what theblend?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
is on this sparkling bad boy?
I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's 20% Chardonnay, 30% Macabeo, 30% Ixarello and
20% Perala Ata.
A bunch of Spanish grapes.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, I think it tastes decent alone we have some
OJ in it right now it reallybrings out the sweetness of the
wine, and it's a little bit toosweet for my appetite at the
moment, but it still is reallytasty.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, I feel like when you don't have the OJ in
it're like oh, that's like justa nice crisp sparkling, but then
with the oj you get like thesweet notes, or maybe the oj is
just sweeter than it could alsolike dull down the bubbles a
little bit and then, it justtastes more sweet than bubbly.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But I do like kavas, me too, too.
So Especially a brute.
Yeah, exactly Like the drierthe better.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yes, and I picked this bottle because, like I said
, it's a limited edition.
So it's black and it has likegold, like fleur-de-lis type
foliage.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm not like a huge sparkling wine person.
I like sparkling wine every nowand then in Milosas, or if it's
a celebration, I really likesparkling wine person.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I like sparkling wine every now and then in mimosas,
or if it's a celebration, Ireally like sparkling wine I'm
all about like sparkling winefor mimosas, but I usually just
go like kirkland brand or likemy same, like go-to, like trader
joe's and costco, like thebasics, and I'm generally just
drinking it as mimosa, so I'mnot thinking too hard about it.
(02:08):
I did have a little bit ofsparkling wine after my biking
class today, though Nice,probably like little shots worth
.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We went and did a brunch.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, I was kind of disappointed.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean it wasn't bad.
The food wasn't bad by anymeans, it just I don't know.
Maybe I'm picky when it comesto my brunch spots.
I like a homier, smaller,family-owned restaurant feel for
my brunch, and the place wewent to was a small chain, but I
kept hearing good things aboutit.
I was like, eh, basically akept hearing good things about
(02:44):
it.
I was like basically aglorified black bear diner ouch,
I mean it was better than blackbear.
It's a step above black bear.
But it just felt like theambience wasn't anything special
.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's just a busy restaurant I don't know why I
made big deal.
I actually don't mind blackbear I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's just like people had hyped up this place so much
that I thought it was justgoing to be how late is black
bear open anyway?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
anyway, is it like 24 hours?
Is it 24 hours, see?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
maybe not.
I know denny's is 24 hours Idon't like denny's very much,
but I know a lot of denny's haveclosed, like napa doesn't have
one anymore really, yeah, theyhave a huckleberry's there
instead now wow yeah, I haven'tbeen to Huckleberry's.
Maybe that's similar to what wewent to, I don't know.
Huh, anyway, let's talk aboutwhat we've been watching,
(03:32):
reading, playing and listeningto this week.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So this week I started watching the new season
of the Circle.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh my God, me too.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Which Andrew's been like in and out, like I'll have
it on and he'll like watch likea few minutes at a time.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I get it.
I'm watching it, I'm seeingwhat the traps they're falling
into and you're like getting toknow the like contestants slowly
yeah as you watch.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So this season they have a quote-unquote ai
contestant.
They're like this is a opensource AI that's created a
profile, blah, blah blah, and inlifetime.
It's like reading the messagesand knowing exactly what to
respond based on AI and honestly, I don't believe it.
(04:20):
At the beginning they're likeno producer meddling with the AI
.
And I'm I'm like, yeah, itmight not be producer meddling,
but there's for sure somebodysitting there typing up the
responses because they do notsound like chat gpt yeah, or any
open source ai that I have everseen yeah, uh.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And then that's like, how do you keep it from saying
really dumb things?
And also, is it connected tothe internet?
Because, like, where is itgetting its script?
Like how's it scripting aresponse to anybody?
So it's got to pull informationfrom somewhere and it's pulling
from the internet.
There's like, like, did yourestrict it from certain areas?
Because, like, there's somereally and are they?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
able to just like google every contestant on there
to get information.
Yeah, like.
What information do they haveaccess to?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Also, how does it gauge its own opinion, like, how
does it develop its ownpersonality?
It doesn't.
It's not able to.
Yeah, real AI doesn't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So so, like the fact that now there's like an
influencer who has to, like,choose who they think the AI is
and send that person home, andthat the actual AI is not even
on their radar, I'm like, andthis guy's an ai engineer, right
, that's in charge of sendinghome whoever, and I'm like an ai
(05:37):
engineer should be able to pickout something like who it is,
if it's actual ai, and the factthat nothing that quote-unquote
ai has said has led them tobelieve it's ai makes me think
that it's definitely not yeah soI don't like that.
They're like pitching it likethat I don't either.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But you know, what do you think about the guy who
brought his pet?
Like, do you think that's fair,that everybody else doesn't
have a pet with them?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
well, maybe he just asked.
I know that, like I had appliedfor the circle a couple years
ago and I requested that I bringmy dog that's why you got
turned down I mean maybe allright.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So what have you been ?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Reading.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I've just been reading more Lore Olympus.
It's coming to like a closehere.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I thought you were already caught up on that.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I was caught up and then I let it build up for a few
weeks because I like to likebinge read it.
So now it's built up for likeseveral episodes and I've been
like getting through it, but Iknow that the end is coming.
So I'm like, oh, I don't wantit to end.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So I'm dragging it out I've been um reading um.
It's called fatal I think Italked about it on another
podcast, but I'm on volume twonow.
It's the same guys that wroteuh killer be killed, uh, and all
the criminal series, andthey've done a bunch of other
stuff too.
(07:05):
But so same type of arts andwriting.
It's pretty good.
It's about demons.
It's got like a veryconstantine feel to it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Still, right up your alley yeah, I'm really enjoying
it, and the main character is,uh, she's like a female that is
ageless, so it's kind ofinteresting that's cool, yeah,
so what I've been playing andI'm playing a lot of torn
because we had a war and thatmeans that I have to be actively
online like teamwork makes thedream work and you want to do
(07:35):
really well in the wars on torn,because that's how you make a
lot of money in the game tospend on other things.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So also it was 420 and in the game there's like a
420 thing there yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So then have you been playing anything else?
Oh, magic, because they have anew set of magic yeah it's like
a cowboy theme right, or like awestern yeah do you like the new
set?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
uh, I think it's all right I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I like, from the little bit of the art I've seen,
I'm like, yeah, I feel likethey've done some cooler themes
in the past couple years missedmaking the theme.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It feels like a um, a spin-off almost, but it feels
good, it feels fine well, sothen, what I've been listening
to?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
um, I've been listening to the song make a
baby by young gravy and jessemccartney okay because I don't
know why.
When it first came out I waslike this song is like super
annoying.
And then somehow I keeplistening to it and I'm like I
don't know it's funny and it'squirky and it gets stuck in your
(08:44):
head and then you end up havingto listen to it over and over
and over.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I try not to do that, but I get, I get it.
I do that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So we're like you hear it one time and then all of
a sudden you're like humming itand then you're like, well, I
just have to listen to it nowand then later you to listen to
it again, I guess, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I have another avenue of that where, like, I have a
song I just like to hit heavysquats on, you know, but I'll
just like play the same songevery time I'm doing the set.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Like I have to go back and reset the song because
it's like I got a whole routine,but it gets me pumped.
So is that like how?
They play that Snoop dog song alot in my cycling classes and
then I come home and I findmyself like singing it to.
So me, uh.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But instead of saying snoop d-o-double-g, I always
sing it, so me d-o-double-g Ikind of think of it more like
priming myself to be in theright, right, right mindset.
So like when I hear that songI'm like, oh, I gotta like get
hyped for squats because I don'twant to hurt myself and I need
to focus and like keep a goodform do you do that?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
uh, a viking song for that uh, not any well sometimes
yeah yeah, what song have youbeen using?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
There's another song called Conflict, which is just
as bad, and then I've also beenlistening to a mix on Spotify
called Sounds Heavy.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Cool.
Is that for heavy lifting orheavy metal?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's just what I listen to at the gym.
That's usually when I'mlistening to music.
Otherwise I'm listening to likealternative or like um 90s rock
nice, but not like.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You know what's song now that we're talking about
songs that get stuck in yourhead, that stupid one week song
what about that song I playedfor you for today?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
can you kick it?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
that's fine, we can, but you know how often that
stupid one week song pops in myhead and how often I sing it
around the house and I hate it Idon't even know the song you're
talking about and I don't wantto know one week since you're
like oh gosh, no stop.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And like it's literally I don't know where
that came from.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The worst and I just like I don't know if it's just
middle-aged.
Uh, fathers and mothers, theyget that stuck in their head
because, like that has beenstuck in my head for like
several months yeah, like I'llhear andrew singing it and then
it's stuck in my head and it'sjust like literally at least
five times a day and we don'teven have it on, we like don't
(11:22):
even do you remember that insideout movie?
yeah remember how like that girl, how there's like that
commercial that just like popsup in her head for whatever
that's hilarious that's likethis song like it was like the
emotions are like just pop thatsong yeah, like accidentally
falls into the it's like thatand then every so often, like
(11:42):
drops of jupiter by train alsosneaks in there yeah, yeah,
that's another one too.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I'm like dang it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I blame our parents because, like they obviously
played a lot of it they just had.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I'm like, how do I know?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
every word there's a lot of songs like that, where
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Speaker 2 (15:43):
All right, what do you think about dark psychology?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
What is dark psychology?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's like hypnotism or like brainwashing.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, we were watching that prank magic show
and they pranked someone byhypnotizing them and bringing
them out into the desert andthen making them think that the
apocalypse had happened whilethey were in a sleep study.
And I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You like that.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah.
All right and I love that youlike that.
Yeah, all right.
So, um, I mean, I think it'sfun as like a prank do I think
that, like they should just bedoing dark psychology on
everybody all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
No, okay, yeah, I just was thinking about it and I
was like that's messed up,because I feel like a lot of
people try to like.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's a way to manipulate people.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, like when people, if you have like friends
, like put you down right away,or family members or whatever.
A lot of times that has to dowith like Well, my mom always
used to say, like People put youdown and make themselves feel
(16:58):
better and it really is aself-serving thing to do right.
Like when you're like not beingpatient with somebody or like
you're calling them dumb orsomething because you don't want
you know what I mean.
Like there's like that weirdwhere it's like you're calling
them dumb or something becauseyou don't want you know what I
mean.
Like there's like that weird.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Where it's like you saying that and putting them
down isn't helping them in anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, well, it's not even.
A lot of times it's not eventhey did anything wrong, it's
just that you want to push theblame onto them, so like you
could.
A lot of times people foul upand then they will like put
someone else down and then shiftthe blame onto that person,
right?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
yeah, instead of taking accountability for their
part here's what I could havedone better.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, so I think that that's a form of brainwashing,
because I think if you do thatenough times, it'll like make
the other person think that youknow.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's kind of like if you say a lie a thousand times,
it becomes a truth, kind ofthing well, like I have friends
that are be like oh well, likeI'm never going to amount to
anything because I'm dumb.
Because when I was in highschool I didn't get good grades
and I was told over and overthat I was dumb because I didn't
, like I wasn't book smart.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Well, there's also a psychology that says if you say
somebody is good at something,they do better at that, at that
subject.
That's why a lot of times whenyou have like a math class, all
the Asian people do slightlybetter than everyone else,
because there's a stigma thatasian people are good at math
(18:37):
and they it doesn't mean they'reany better than anybody else.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's that they have that that kind of like oh I'm
good at math because of myethnicity and just works for me
kind of thing I actually readsomething the other day about
people who were always told likeoh, you're so smart, you're so
brilliant, you always know allthe answers, like things like
that.
And then now those same peopleas adults find that they're not
(19:00):
as productive.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Because they're like and it's almost like they're
scared of failing because theywere told they were smart, even
though like like I know that,like I was always told oh,
you're so smart, even though I'mnot smarter than anyone else.
And then it's like there's somany times in life when people
are like oh, Lindsay, like theyasked me a question and I'm like
(19:23):
, how would I possibly know theanswer to that?
Like yeah.
I'm not a walking dictionary orlike a walking thesaurus.
I don't have a search engine inmy brain, so like honestly,
intelligence is such a loosething for people.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
We have such a skewered perception.
We're like, oh, you take a testand it tells you how smart you
are, and I'm like that's themost mundane, dumb thing I've
ever, like that encompasseseverybody's intelligence, it's.
It's just like it doesn't work,you know, cause, like some
people are going to be reallygood in situations that others
aren't.
You know, like you may bereally smart in one area and and
(20:00):
kind of a numb nut in the other.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So yeah, so something I wanted to talk about this
week.
We mentioned AI in the firstpart of our episode, or what
they're calling AI, but there'snow a website that does AI for
voiceovers and you can either dolike a free thing where you can
pay a small fee per month andthey have thousands of AI voices
(20:24):
and you can basically punch inanything you want.
Any script you could make likean animated thing, type in your
script, choose what, anythingyou want.
Any script you could make likean animated thing.
Type in your script, choose whatvoices you want and it'll just
plug in those voices so it justtries to like make it feel
natural with it yeah, but evenlike celebrities, like people
like christy carlson romano,like, who played kim, possible
and stuff like her voice is on,like she teamed up with them and
(20:47):
put her voice on there, andthen you can also change it into
a bunch of different languages.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I feel like it has to be limited.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And well, each membership gives you a certain
amount of words per month orwhatever, but basically it's
like 10 bucks a month forbasically two hours worth of
audio, right?
So how many people are going tobe starting podcasts and just
like typing stuff in and havingfake voices, just having
conversations?
I feel like it wouldn't reallywork, right?
So how many people are going tobe starting podcasts and just
like typing stuff in and havingfake voices, just having
conversations?
I feel like it wouldn't reallywork so I like logged into, like
(21:17):
their free thing, and justtyped in like a few sentences,
like something that we had saidon our podcast.
I just had it yeah read it andto me it's like super obvious
that it's ai it's awkward, yeahand I'm like I'm hoping that
people don't just like floodanimation and podcasting and
stuff with you know what I feellike happens because they
(21:38):
started doing out children'sbooks where, like they were, ai
generating children's books.
Yeah, and like you, lose allthe feel I'm like.
Please don't do that to everytype of media.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You know what's nuts about this whole branding that
they're doing?
They'll find one guy that'skind of daft a little bit and
he'll be overwhelmed becausethey're giving him all this
attention.
And then they'll be like listento this.
And they'll be like did youknow that this was?
Can you tell which one of thesevoices is AI?
(22:10):
And then he'll just like givelike this, astonished.
I just feel like this is theirwhole get up.
It's like one guy being superlike impressed and astonished,
and then it like fools everyoneelse into believing that these
deep fakes and ais are likeimpossible to decipher.
I mean, I hear it all the timeand you get smart people saying
(22:30):
it too.
They're like oh, I saw someoneso impressed that I think deep
fakes are really okay, crazyright now, so that's kind of
like.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So like britney spears's instagram yeah we're
like, they're like.
They think that people arefooled right right by the fact
that all of her instagrams aredeep fakes and they think that
like nobody notices or something.
It's like it's so obvious andI'm like, why does she have
seven fingers in that video?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
yeah, and the more they do it, the more obvious it
is.
So like a deep fake.
Isn't that deep like they could?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
have, like, maybe gotten away with one or two
videos, yeah, and like whateverI've heard, like twirling and
dancing, but when they'reposting like hundreds of them,
it's like this becomes more andmore and more obvious, every
single post also the thing is isif you show her dancing or
whatever to a like a dancersomebody or a choreographer,
(23:23):
they're gonna know right awaythat that's not her, because
they're gonna see through hermovements that that's not her.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
well, they're using like a body double and then a
filter, and then like I know,but you're going to know, it's
weird.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You're going to know, and then they'll be like why?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
does her back tattoo appear and reappear like six
times in the same video?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Well, those subtleties.
But you're also going to know,like, if you watch, if you work
with her, you're going to knowthat that's not her right?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
yeah, so those are the people.
They should be asking about it.
Yeah, okay.
So my other topic has to dowith kyle marissa roth, who was
a tiktoker she's known.
I don't know if andrew's everseen her videos.
I used to watch them a lot, butevery video she would start and
she'd be like you want more,I'll give you more, and it was
like she would read like blinditems and like break down, like
(24:11):
oh, this is like who this isabout.
Oh, this is blah, blah, blah.
So recently she had been doing abunch of stuff about but diddy
and j-lo yeah because j-lo isalso I love it when people break
stuff down so she was super,super popular.
Tiktok had actually justremoved her page because JLo
freaking sent a cease and desistor some crap, but so all of her
(24:35):
videos from like years weregone.
And then this past week herparents announced that she had
passed away.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
What.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So then, but they say they don't know the reason yet
and she had had colon cancer.
She was only yet and she hadhad colon cancer.
She was only 36, but she hadhad colon cancer, she was in
remission.
So they're like was it a healththing?
Like, did Diddy's team offer?
Did J-Lo's team offer?
So there's a lot ofconspiracies about it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So she's dead, though .
Yeah, okay, it's not like.
Oh, they said she's dead.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
No, no, dead, no, no.
She's like she actually passedaway and it really upsets me
because I feel like that'ssomeone that I was like, as we
like are expanding our company,that was someone that I wanted
like on our podcast network andnow I don't even have the
opportunity to like makes youthink how fragile people are and
how people take life forgranted.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And people are like well, snuff.
I don't know if she wasmurdered, but I feel like there
are people out there that don'thold any value to life.
It's like not sacred, it's likemonetary, and they'll snuff
anybody.
You know if it can be, if it'sconvenient or if it suits.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, I mean, that's just Diddy's whole thing in
general, right.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, our mean, that's just Diddy's whole thing
in general, right?
Well, our government acts thatway too.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, you know, and other governments act that way
too, and then there were peopleon Reddit that were like maybe
the government killed herbecause she's getting too close
to discovering the truth.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I don't know about that and I was like.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't think we need to go through like conspiracies
.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think it's just this of what happened, whether
it was her cancer or if someother medical issue.
Yeah, I do know we kill a lotof journalists in america.
You can look that up.
That's not just me saying that,uh, and I do know that other
countries murder a lot ofjournalists, like hundreds and
hundreds of journalists actuallyone of, or the most murdered
profession, aren't they?
On one of them yeah I know I'msurprised that they're not on
the top most dangerous.
It's probably because there'snot that many journalists like
(26:31):
real journalists nowadays.
Yeah, so you have like a verysmall pool to pull from okay,
are you gonna end this off withsome peacock vasectomies?
Yeah.
So lindsey and I were watchingthe news and we saw a clip.
It was like the hot story andit was about peacocks moving
from one neighborhood to thenext.
(26:52):
But they were coming into thiswealthier neighborhood and it
was like upsetting the peoplethere.
And so they're like we need togive these peacocks vasectomies
Because they're mating tooquickly.
Because they're mating, they'reprocreating too fast.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I do have to say, as someone who used to have pet
peacocks, peacocks are annoying,annoying.
They're up all night and theyjust yell, help, help, help all
night long.
So like I get being annoyed bythem, but also they had like
obviously been brought into thatother neighborhood to like be,
(27:29):
like, oh, these are thedomesticated neighborhood
peacocks.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Aren't they beautiful .
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And then like they moved to another neighborhood
and then like people get allpissy about it and it's like
maybe we should just likeshouldn't be bringing a ton of
peacocks into like suburbs inthe first place.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, or how about we just stop complaining so much
about wildlife?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
like nature.
Yeah, that was like when wewere up in idaho last year.
Weren't they talking about whattype of bird or?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
they're like oh, the hogs, they're all the wild pigs
are storming all the farmlandand I'm like it wasn't the hogs.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
There was some other animal, though, that they were
like.
The wolves they were like oh,we're not going to have to kill
off whatever, what type ofanimal it was.
They're like oh, there were two.
Oh, the geese or somethingright.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
They're like oh, we thought we were going to have to
kill off a bunch of geese, butthen, like, we got too many
birds, so there's no like.
We got the population thingunder control so we don't have
to murder them anymore.
And I was like you're murderinggeese because there's too many
geese, what?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
yeah, like it just sounds like there's an imbalance
in nature and like theoverpopulation of geese is a
correction, because it'sbasically trying to make more
predators right I'm like soweird, yeah, to be like oh, um,
we find these to be a nuisancebut before they, before the
geese, they were like the wolves.
(29:00):
There's too many wolves, so weshoot wolves on site and I'm
like, well, wolves eat geese andbears and like everything else,
they just like it might bebetter just to push the geese
away from your civilized area ordon't live in the foresty
nature, you know like.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Go move into a city yeah you know, like oh, the
geese want to live in your lakewell, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's a weird thing.
It's strange how you have toshare it with animals and
wildlife.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Huh yeah, freaking weird stupid wildlife well, what
a note to end this on.
So we will talk to you againnext week on wednesday for
another episode of a wine 30.
Hi, everyone, guess who has a voice this week.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Not Lindsay.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I mean it's better than last week.
For sure, yeah, it does crackevery so often still, but it's
like much, much better.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's a little raspy, but it's getting better.
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
So today I'm actually drinking the wine again.
We have a Cava Cotonor.
It is a limited edition.
It's a Brut Reserve fromBarcelona, Spain.
Do you want to guess what theblend?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
is on this sparkling bad boy?
I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's 20% Chardonnay, 30% Macabeo, 30% Ixarello and
20% Perala Ata.
A bunch of Spanish grapes.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, I think it tastes decent alone we have some
OJ in it right now it reallybrings out the sweetness of the
wine, and it's a little bit toosweet for my appetite at the
moment, but it still is reallytasty.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, I feel like when you don't have the OJ in
it're like oh, that's like justa nice crisp sparkling, but then
with the oj you get like thesweet notes, or maybe the oj is
just sweeter than it could alsolike dull down the bubbles a
little bit and then, it justtastes more sweet than bubbly.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But I do like kavas, me too, too.
So Especially a brute.
Yeah, exactly Like the drierthe better.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yes, and I picked this bottle because, like I said
, it's a limited edition.
So it's black and it has likegold, like fleur-de-lis type
foliage.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm not like a huge sparkling wine person.
I like sparkling wine every nowand then in Milosas, or if it's
a celebration, I really likesparkling wine person.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I like sparkling wine every now and then in mimosas,
or if it's a celebration, Ireally like sparkling wine I'm
all about like sparkling winefor mimosas, but I usually just
go like kirkland brand or likemy same, like go-to, like trader
joe's and costco, like thebasics, and I'm generally just
drinking it as mimosa, so I'mnot thinking too hard about it.
(02:08):
I did have a little bit ofsparkling wine after my biking
class today, though Nice,probably like little shots worth
.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We went and did a brunch.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, I was kind of disappointed.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean it wasn't bad.
The food wasn't bad by anymeans, it just I don't know.
Maybe I'm picky when it comesto my brunch spots.
I like a homier, smaller,family-owned restaurant feel for
my brunch, and the place wewent to was a small chain, but I
kept hearing good things aboutit.
I was like, eh, basically akept hearing good things about
(02:44):
it.
I was like basically aglorified black bear diner ouch,
I mean it was better than blackbear.
It's a step above black bear.
But it just felt like theambience wasn't anything special
.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's just a busy restaurant I don't know why I
made big deal.
I actually don't mind blackbear I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's just like people had hyped up this place so much
that I thought it was justgoing to be how late is black
bear open anyway?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
anyway, is it like 24 hours?
Is it 24 hours, see?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
maybe not.
I know denny's is 24 hours Idon't like denny's very much,
but I know a lot of denny's haveclosed, like napa doesn't have
one anymore really, yeah, theyhave a huckleberry's there
instead now wow yeah, I haven'tbeen to Huckleberry's.
Maybe that's similar to what wewent to, I don't know.
Huh, anyway, let's talk aboutwhat we've been watching,
(03:32):
reading, playing and listeningto this week.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So this week I started watching the new season
of the Circle.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh my God, me too.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Which Andrew's been like in and out, like I'll have
it on and he'll like watch likea few minutes at a time.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I get it.
I'm watching it, I'm seeingwhat the traps they're falling
into and you're like getting toknow the like contestants slowly
yeah as you watch.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So this season they have a quote-unquote ai
contestant.
They're like this is a opensource AI that's created a
profile, blah, blah blah, and inlifetime.
It's like reading the messagesand knowing exactly what to
respond based on AI and honestly, I don't believe it.
(04:20):
At the beginning they're likeno producer meddling with the AI
.
And I'm I'm like, yeah, itmight not be producer meddling,
but there's for sure somebodysitting there typing up the
responses because they do notsound like chat gpt yeah, or any
open source ai that I have everseen yeah, uh.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And then that's like, how do you keep it from saying
really dumb things?
And also, is it connected tothe internet?
Because, like, where is itgetting its script?
Like how's it scripting aresponse to anybody?
So it's got to pull informationfrom somewhere and it's pulling
from the internet.
There's like, like, did yourestrict it from certain areas?
Because, like, there's somereally and are they?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
able to just like google every contestant on there
to get information.
Yeah, like.
What information do they haveaccess to?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Also, how does it gauge its own opinion, like, how
does it develop its ownpersonality?
It doesn't.
It's not able to.
Yeah, real AI doesn't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So so, like the fact that now there's like an
influencer who has to, like,choose who they think the AI is
and send that person home, andthat the actual AI is not even
on their radar, I'm like, andthis guy's an ai engineer, right
, that's in charge of sendinghome whoever, and I'm like an ai
(05:37):
engineer should be able to pickout something like who it is,
if it's actual ai, and the factthat nothing that quote-unquote
ai has said has led them tobelieve it's ai makes me think
that it's definitely not yeah soI don't like that.
They're like pitching it likethat I don't either.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But you know, what do you think about the guy who
brought his pet?
Like, do you think that's fair,that everybody else doesn't
have a pet with them?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
well, maybe he just asked.
I know that, like I had appliedfor the circle a couple years
ago and I requested that I bringmy dog that's why you got
turned down I mean maybe allright.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So what have you been ?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Reading.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I've just been reading more Lore Olympus.
It's coming to like a closehere.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I thought you were already caught up on that.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I was caught up and then I let it build up for a few
weeks because I like to likebinge read it.
So now it's built up for likeseveral episodes and I've been
like getting through it, but Iknow that the end is coming.
So I'm like, oh, I don't wantit to end.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So I'm dragging it out I've been um reading um.
It's called fatal I think Italked about it on another
podcast, but I'm on volume twonow.
It's the same guys that wroteuh killer be killed, uh, and all
the criminal series, andthey've done a bunch of other
stuff too.
(07:05):
But so same type of arts andwriting.
It's pretty good.
It's about demons.
It's got like a veryconstantine feel to it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Still, right up your alley yeah, I'm really enjoying
it, and the main character is,uh, she's like a female that is
ageless, so it's kind ofinteresting that's cool, yeah,
so what I've been playing andI'm playing a lot of torn
because we had a war and thatmeans that I have to be actively
online like teamwork makes thedream work and you want to do
(07:35):
really well in the wars on torn,because that's how you make a
lot of money in the game tospend on other things.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So also it was 420 and in the game there's like a
420 thing there yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So then have you been playing anything else?
Oh, magic, because they have anew set of magic yeah it's like
a cowboy theme right, or like awestern yeah do you like the new
set?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
uh, I think it's all right I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I like, from the little bit of the art I've seen,
I'm like, yeah, I feel likethey've done some cooler themes
in the past couple years missedmaking the theme.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It feels like a um, a spin-off almost, but it feels
good, it feels fine well, sothen, what I've been listening
to?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
um, I've been listening to the song make a
baby by young gravy and jessemccartney okay because I don't
know why.
When it first came out I waslike this song is like super
annoying.
And then somehow I keeplistening to it and I'm like I
don't know it's funny and it'squirky and it gets stuck in your
(08:44):
head and then you end up havingto listen to it over and over
and over.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I try not to do that, but I get, I get it.
I do that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So we're like you hear it one time and then all of
a sudden you're like humming itand then you're like, well, I
just have to listen to it nowand then later you to listen to
it again, I guess, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I have another avenue of that where, like, I have a
song I just like to hit heavysquats on, you know, but I'll
just like play the same songevery time I'm doing the set.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Like I have to go back and reset the song because
it's like I got a whole routine,but it gets me pumped.
So is that like how?
They play that Snoop dog song alot in my cycling classes and
then I come home and I findmyself like singing it to.
So me, uh.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But instead of saying snoop d-o-double-g, I always
sing it, so me d-o-double-g Ikind of think of it more like
priming myself to be in theright, right, right mindset.
So like when I hear that songI'm like, oh, I gotta like get
hyped for squats because I don'twant to hurt myself and I need
to focus and like keep a goodform do you do that?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
uh, a viking song for that uh, not any well sometimes
yeah yeah, what song have youbeen using?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
There's another song called Conflict, which is just
as bad, and then I've also beenlistening to a mix on Spotify
called Sounds Heavy.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Cool.
Is that for heavy lifting orheavy metal?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's just what I listen to at the gym.
That's usually when I'mlistening to music.
Otherwise I'm listening to likealternative or like um 90s rock
nice, but not like.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You know what's song now that we're talking about
songs that get stuck in yourhead, that stupid one week song
what about that song I playedfor you for today?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
can you kick it?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
that's fine, we can, but you know how often that
stupid one week song pops in myhead and how often I sing it
around the house and I hate it Idon't even know the song you're
talking about and I don't wantto know one week since you're
like oh gosh, no stop.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And like it's literally I don't know where
that came from.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The worst and I just like I don't know if it's just
middle-aged.
Uh, fathers and mothers, theyget that stuck in their head
because, like that has beenstuck in my head for like
several months yeah, like I'llhear andrew singing it and then
it's stuck in my head and it'sjust like literally at least
five times a day and we don'teven have it on, we like don't
(11:22):
even do you remember that insideout movie?
yeah remember how like that girl, how there's like that
commercial that just like popsup in her head for whatever
that's hilarious that's likethis song like it was like the
emotions are like just pop thatsong yeah, like accidentally
falls into the it's like thatand then every so often, like
(11:42):
drops of jupiter by train alsosneaks in there yeah, yeah,
that's another one too.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I'm like dang it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I blame our parents because, like they obviously
played a lot of it they just had.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I'm like, how do I know?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
every word there's a lot of songs like that, where
I'm just like, hmm, suspect yeah, so we are going to take a
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Speaker 2 (15:43):
All right, what do you think about dark psychology?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
What is dark psychology?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's like hypnotism or like brainwashing.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, we were watching that prank magic show
and they pranked someone byhypnotizing them and bringing
them out into the desert andthen making them think that the
apocalypse had happened whilethey were in a sleep study.
And I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You like that.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah.
All right and I love that youlike that.
Yeah, all right.
So, um, I mean, I think it'sfun as like a prank do I think
that, like they should just bedoing dark psychology on
everybody all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
No, okay, yeah, I just was thinking about it and I
was like that's messed up,because I feel like a lot of
people try to like.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's a way to manipulate people.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, like when people, if you have like friends
, like put you down right away,or family members or whatever.
A lot of times that has to dowith like Well, my mom always
used to say, like People put youdown and make themselves feel
(16:58):
better and it really is aself-serving thing to do right.
Like when you're like not beingpatient with somebody or like
you're calling them dumb orsomething because you don't want
you know what I mean.
Like there's like that weirdwhere it's like you're calling
them dumb or something becauseyou don't want you know what I
mean.
Like there's like that weird.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Where it's like you saying that and putting them
down isn't helping them in anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, well, it's not even.
A lot of times it's not eventhey did anything wrong, it's
just that you want to push theblame onto them, so like you
could.
A lot of times people foul upand then they will like put
someone else down and then shiftthe blame onto that person,
right?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
yeah, instead of taking accountability for their
part here's what I could havedone better.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, so I think that that's a form of brainwashing,
because I think if you do thatenough times, it'll like make
the other person think that youknow.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's kind of like if you say a lie a thousand times,
it becomes a truth, kind ofthing well, like I have friends
that are be like oh well, likeI'm never going to amount to
anything because I'm dumb.
Because when I was in highschool I didn't get good grades
and I was told over and overthat I was dumb because I didn't
, like I wasn't book smart.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Well, there's also a psychology that says if you say
somebody is good at something,they do better at that, at that
subject.
That's why a lot of times whenyou have like a math class, all
the Asian people do slightlybetter than everyone else,
because there's a stigma thatasian people are good at math
(18:37):
and they it doesn't mean they'reany better than anybody else.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's that they have that that kind of like oh I'm
good at math because of myethnicity and just works for me
kind of thing I actually readsomething the other day about
people who were always told likeoh, you're so smart, you're so
brilliant, you always know allthe answers, like things like
that.
And then now those same peopleas adults find that they're not
(19:00):
as productive.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Because they're like and it's almost like they're
scared of failing because theywere told they were smart, even
though like like I know that,like I was always told oh,
you're so smart, even though I'mnot smarter than anyone else.
And then it's like there's somany times in life when people
are like oh, Lindsay, like theyasked me a question and I'm like
(19:23):
, how would I possibly know theanswer to that?
Like yeah.
I'm not a walking dictionary orlike a walking thesaurus.
I don't have a search engine inmy brain, so like honestly,
intelligence is such a loosething for people.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
We have such a skewered perception.
We're like, oh, you take a testand it tells you how smart you
are, and I'm like that's themost mundane, dumb thing I've
ever, like that encompasseseverybody's intelligence, it's.
It's just like it doesn't work,you know, cause, like some
people are going to be reallygood in situations that others
aren't.
You know, like you may bereally smart in one area and and
(20:00):
kind of a numb nut in the other.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So yeah, so something I wanted to talk about this
week.
We mentioned AI in the firstpart of our episode, or what
they're calling AI, but there'snow a website that does AI for
voiceovers and you can either dolike a free thing where you can
pay a small fee per month andthey have thousands of AI voices
(20:24):
and you can basically punch inanything you want.
Any script you could make likean animated thing, type in your
script, choose what, anythingyou want.
Any script you could make likean animated thing.
Type in your script, choose whatvoices you want and it'll just
plug in those voices so it justtries to like make it feel
natural with it yeah, but evenlike celebrities, like people
like christy carlson romano,like, who played kim, possible
and stuff like her voice is on,like she teamed up with them and
(20:47):
put her voice on there, andthen you can also change it into
a bunch of different languages.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I feel like it has to be limited.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And well, each membership gives you a certain
amount of words per month orwhatever, but basically it's
like 10 bucks a month forbasically two hours worth of
audio, right?
So how many people are going tobe starting podcasts and just
like typing stuff in and havingfake voices, just having
conversations?
I feel like it wouldn't reallywork, right?
So how many people are going tobe starting podcasts and just
like typing stuff in and havingfake voices, just having
conversations?
I feel like it wouldn't reallywork so I like logged into, like
(21:17):
their free thing, and justtyped in like a few sentences,
like something that we had saidon our podcast.
I just had it yeah read it andto me it's like super obvious
that it's ai it's awkward, yeahand I'm like I'm hoping that
people don't just like floodanimation and podcasting and
stuff with you know what I feellike happens because they
(21:38):
started doing out children'sbooks where, like they were, ai
generating children's books.
Yeah, and like you, lose allthe feel I'm like.
Please don't do that to everytype of media.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You know what's nuts about this whole branding that
they're doing?
They'll find one guy that'skind of daft a little bit and
he'll be overwhelmed becausethey're giving him all this
attention.
And then they'll be like listento this.
And they'll be like did youknow that this was?
Can you tell which one of thesevoices is AI?
(22:10):
And then he'll just like givelike this, astonished.
I just feel like this is theirwhole get up.
It's like one guy being superlike impressed and astonished,
and then it like fools everyoneelse into believing that these
deep fakes and ais are likeimpossible to decipher.
I mean, I hear it all the timeand you get smart people saying
(22:30):
it too.
They're like oh, I saw someoneso impressed that I think deep
fakes are really okay, crazyright now, so that's kind of
like.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So like britney spears's instagram yeah we're
like, they're like.
They think that people arefooled right right by the fact
that all of her instagrams aredeep fakes and they think that
like nobody notices or something.
It's like it's so obvious andI'm like, why does she have
seven fingers in that video?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
yeah, and the more they do it, the more obvious it
is.
So like a deep fake.
Isn't that deep like they could?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
have, like, maybe gotten away with one or two
videos, yeah, and like whateverI've heard, like twirling and
dancing, but when they'reposting like hundreds of them,
it's like this becomes more andmore and more obvious, every
single post also the thing is isif you show her dancing or
whatever to a like a dancersomebody or a choreographer,
(23:23):
they're gonna know right awaythat that's not her, because
they're gonna see through hermovements that that's not her.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
well, they're using like a body double and then a
filter, and then like I know,but you're going to know, it's
weird.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
You're going to know, and then they'll be like why?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
does her back tattoo appear and reappear like six
times in the same video?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Well, those subtleties.
But you're also going to know,like, if you watch, if you work
with her, you're going to knowthat that's not her right?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
yeah, so those are the people.
They should be asking about it.
Yeah, okay.
So my other topic has to dowith kyle marissa roth, who was
a tiktoker she's known.
I don't know if andrew's everseen her videos.
I used to watch them a lot, butevery video she would start and
she'd be like you want more,I'll give you more, and it was
like she would read like blinditems and like break down, like
(24:11):
oh, this is like who this isabout.
Oh, this is blah, blah, blah.
So recently she had been doing abunch of stuff about but diddy
and j-lo yeah because j-lo isalso I love it when people break
stuff down so she was super,super popular.
Tiktok had actually justremoved her page because JLo
freaking sent a cease and desistor some crap, but so all of her
(24:35):
videos from like years weregone.
And then this past week herparents announced that she had
passed away.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
What.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So then, but they say they don't know the reason yet
and she had had colon cancer.
She was only yet and she hadhad colon cancer.
She was only 36, but she hadhad colon cancer, she was in
remission.
So they're like was it a healththing?
Like, did Diddy's team offer?
Did J-Lo's team offer?
So there's a lot ofconspiracies about it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So she's dead, though .
Yeah, okay, it's not like.
Oh, they said she's dead.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
No, no, dead, no, no.
She's like she actually passedaway and it really upsets me
because I feel like that'ssomeone that I was like, as we
like are expanding our company,that was someone that I wanted
like on our podcast network andnow I don't even have the
opportunity to like makes youthink how fragile people are and
how people take life forgranted.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And people are like well, snuff.
I don't know if she wasmurdered, but I feel like there
are people out there that don'thold any value to life.
It's like not sacred, it's likemonetary, and they'll snuff
anybody.
You know if it can be, if it'sconvenient or if it suits.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, I mean, that's just Diddy's whole thing in
general, right.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, our mean, that's just Diddy's whole thing
in general, right?
Well, our government acts thatway too.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, you know, and other governments act that way
too, and then there were peopleon Reddit that were like maybe
the government killed herbecause she's getting too close
to discovering the truth.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I don't know about that and I was like.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't think we need to go through like conspiracies
.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think it's just this of what happened, whether
it was her cancer or if someother medical issue.
Yeah, I do know we kill a lotof journalists in america.
You can look that up.
That's not just me saying that,uh, and I do know that other
countries murder a lot ofjournalists, like hundreds and
hundreds of journalists actuallyone of, or the most murdered
profession, aren't they?
On one of them yeah I know I'msurprised that they're not on
the top most dangerous.
It's probably because there'snot that many journalists like
(26:31):
real journalists nowadays.
Yeah, so you have like a verysmall pool to pull from okay,
are you gonna end this off withsome peacock vasectomies?
Yeah.
So lindsey and I were watchingthe news and we saw a clip.
It was like the hot story andit was about peacocks moving
from one neighborhood to thenext.
(26:52):
But they were coming into thiswealthier neighborhood and it
was like upsetting the peoplethere.
And so they're like we need togive these peacocks vasectomies
Because they're mating tooquickly.
Because they're mating, they'reprocreating too fast.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I do have to say, as someone who used to have pet
peacocks, peacocks are annoying,annoying.
They're up all night and theyjust yell, help, help, help all
night long.
So like I get being annoyed bythem, but also they had like
obviously been brought into thatother neighborhood to like be,
(27:29):
like, oh, these are thedomesticated neighborhood
peacocks.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Aren't they beautiful .
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And then like they moved to another neighborhood
and then like people get allpissy about it and it's like
maybe we should just likeshouldn't be bringing a ton of
peacocks into like suburbs inthe first place.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, or how about we just stop complaining so much
about wildlife?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
like nature.
Yeah, that was like when wewere up in idaho last year.
Weren't they talking about whattype of bird or?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
they're like oh, the hogs, they're all the wild pigs
are storming all the farmlandand I'm like it wasn't the hogs.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
There was some other animal, though, that they were
like.
The wolves they were like oh,we're not going to have to kill
off whatever, what type ofanimal it was.
They're like oh, there were two.
Oh, the geese or somethingright.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
They're like oh, we thought we were going to have to
kill off a bunch of geese, butthen, like, we got too many
birds, so there's no like.
We got the population thingunder control so we don't have
to murder them anymore.
And I was like you're murderinggeese because there's too many
geese, what?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
yeah, like it just sounds like there's an imbalance
in nature and like theoverpopulation of geese is a
correction, because it'sbasically trying to make more
predators right I'm like soweird, yeah, to be like oh, um,
we find these to be a nuisancebut before they, before the
geese, they were like the wolves.
(29:00):
There's too many wolves, so weshoot wolves on site and I'm
like, well, wolves eat geese andbears and like everything else,
they just like it might bebetter just to push the geese
away from your civilized area ordon't live in the foresty
nature, you know like.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Go move into a city yeah you know, like oh, the
geese want to live in your lakewell, that's weird.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's a weird thing.
It's strange how you have toshare it with animals and
wildlife.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Huh yeah, freaking weird stupid wildlife well, what
a note to end this on.
So we will talk to you againnext week on wednesday for
another episode of a wine 30.
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