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Ever find yourself marveling at the unexpected pleasures life tosses your way? That's exactly what happened when we uncorked a bottle of 2021 Precision Cabernet Sauvignon, a Napa Valley treasure that didn't break the bank. Our latest gathering was a blend of rich wine talk, from its velvety leather undertones to its pairing with the quirkiest of genres—pirate metal shanties. But it wasn't all about the bouquet and beats; we mused over "On Purpose with Jay Shetty" and the fascinating intersection of martial arts and monastic life, contemplating the existence of modern-day warrior monks.

Transitioning from the clinking of glasses to the flipping of pages, we dove into the literary realm with a candid discussion about fighting off the drowsiness that often accompanies a good read. Whether it's the magical world of "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" or the dark, dystopian landscapes of "Ultra Mega," we shared our tactics for staying engaged. The screen then called us with "You," a psychological thriller that has us questioning the balance of creepiness and charm. We even spared some admiration for Kiki Palmer's enlightening podcast, shining a spotlight on her celebration of diverse voices and achievements.

Lastly, we didn't shy away from the heavier topics, untangling the knots of sustainability and the environmental impacts that concern us all. As we continued to sip our wine, we wrestled with the challenges of renewable energy, the ethics of electric vehicles, and the broader implications of our modern lifestyles. From the displacement of wildlife by wind farms to the carbon footprint of our online shopping habits, we left no stone unturned, urging a deeper conversation and actionable steps toward a greener future. It wasn't just about the problems; we aimed to fire up the dialogue and fuel the quest for real solutions.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone and welcome to another episode of
Wine 30 with Andrew and Lindsay.
Today we are drinking a 2021precision Cabernet Sauvignon
from the Napa Valley.
Had a good yeah, you like it.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I like it.
I don't know if I like thelabel.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I know we've had precision wines before.
I don't think we've had thisLike.
I don't know if we've triedtheir cab saw for their 2021
necessarily, but I know we'vetried some of their other wines.
The labels, so so I like thatlike Metallic strip they have at
the bottom.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I think it's like above average.
I would say it's not like thebest of the best, but you know,
if you're buying precision,you're getting like slightly
above average.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I think they're really good for the price oh
yeah.
Costco typically has theseabout 10 bucks a bottle on sale,
which I feel like for a $10bottle.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I think it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
So you're getting the the Valley and cab saws grow
great in Napa, so I Think it's asolid $10 wine.
Oh yeah for sure.
Like I would say, if I didn'tknow how much it cost and I was
to taste this, I'd be like, yeah, that's probably like a $24
wine.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
You could even have this at like a wedding.
Yeah, as like your entry wineor something, or a dinner wine.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Like if you were to just go to Costco and buy like a
case or two of these and thenjust have them as your red wine
option.
I think it's a great option.
Tasty notes you have likeLeather armchair, like if you
just licked a leather armchair,but in a wine.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh yeah, I can taste the sweat Salty.
Yeah, no, I get that.
It's like a.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Velvety leathery.
Yeah, like texture to it orvelvety, it's dry.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's actually full body, yeah, which I mean for a
cab it should be.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I feel like if you have a cab that's not
full-bodied, it's kind of likethey miss the mark.
I Think it's nice.
I you get like maybe like ahint of like peppery dryness at
the very back of the tongue,like very briefly, which is nice
, but it's not like an overpeppery wine.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, wine just absorbs you and you absorb it.
It's like melding.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's enveloping my mouth.
Yeah um I.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Really enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, this is actually one we've had for, like
I Think I bought this like twoor three months ago and I keep
being like, oh, we can do thison the podcast at some point.
I just keep putting it off andputting it off, and putting it
off.
And now that I open it I'm likewhy was I putting off drinking
this wine?
Yeah it's silly.
Um, I'm like where would Idrink this wine in the middle of

(02:50):
a windstorm?
In my living room Is where Iobviously chose to drink it.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
So yeah, there's like a tornado happening outside
right now and we're just.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's like a monsoon, it's like rainy windy, yeah, and
the power keeps just going onand off and on and off.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh exciting stuff though.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, so let's talk about.
We've been watching, reading,playing and listening to this
week.
So what I've been listening to,we'll start with listening.
This week, um, spotify made mea pirate metal shanty mix.
Wow, for it was actually prettygood and uh, it is really great
for our baby.
He's like really digging thatand I actually enjoy it more

(03:33):
than I thought I would.
It's like all like metal piratemusic.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, it's not metal, it's like I mean some of it's
metal.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's like metal inspired, like it's a lot of
bagpipes, but like metal likerock, bagpipe like piratey.
It reminds me of like uh, Imean I was gonna say flogging
molly is one of the bands thatthey like it's like a mix
between ska and metal.
Yeah, I think it's cool, it'sfun.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I like it.
I love that type of music andthen podcast wise.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I started listening to you on purpose with Jay
Shetty, which I know everyonewho's listening to.
This is probably like well duh,it's like the number one mental
health podcast, like whoa inthe world and he's like an
x-monk who talks about likex-monk, about way, like ways to
like Unblock yourself for likenegative thinking or like.

(04:26):
There's different things ineach episode.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Do you know where he's from?
Like, because there's monks allover.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I well he.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I know Tai bet is big right he himself, I think, is.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I don't want to say he's Indian if he's not Indian,
but, um, I think he was a monkin Tai bet, like that's where he
was.
That's where he did his monkthing.
If I'm correct, I could bewrong, but I think he said Tai
bet, which makes a lot of senseto me.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
That makes a ton of sense.
For some reason I thought monkswere also in Yemen, but now I
did a little research and itturns out they're just all
Islamic there.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, I think most monks are more like Asian, like
India, tai bet, thailand kind of.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I just felt like there were monks everywhere,
like because it's about temple,and like buddha About karma.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, I just think that's a lot more popular in
Asian countries in the MiddleEast.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
What do you think about warrior monks?
Is that a thing?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
um, I mean, I feel like it's kind of against what
monks are about.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I feel that.
However, I think that maybethey do practice martial arts,
like because I know they do lotsof different stuff like that
like group.
Like Tai Chi type like, yeah,group, group martial arts, like
things like that, and I don'tknow If it is just my

(05:58):
imagination getting away from meor if monks are like, because I
think they're like warriors ofthe soul, right?
You mean you always think ofthe monk on fire or whatnot in
protest.
Yeah and that's like a prettyvisceral picture, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I know sam yo, who's one of the peloton instructors.
He's from where is he from?
Australia.
He's an australian instructor,but he was a monk, and I think
Tai bet as well.
It'd be interesting to have himon the podcast to ask that
question, because he's more likea physical person.
Yeah like, obviously he's likea famous fitness instructor, but

(06:38):
like Going from like a monk andI think he did like that.
Um, how long is it the days ofsolid, this silent solitude,
whatever?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I.
There's a bunch of differentones.
I know what you mean, thoughwhere, like six months or
something, oh, did he do thefull.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I don't know exactly how long, but I I know it was
some huge length of time.
Yeah.
I've like that time of likesolitude and stuff, um, okay, so
what have you been listening to?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, I have been listening to Don't even really
know, I just been listening tooldies.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
See he calls these oldies Like I've been like
hearing what he's been listeningto.
He's been listening to likelinger by the cranberries.
Yeah that's not like oldiesoldies like I'm pretty sure we
were alive when that was outlike well, like just because
you're alive when they come outbasically even listening to a
lot of like 80s, 90s Type oldies.

(07:40):
Not like all these oldies.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Like what's all these to you?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
like when I hear oldies, I'm thinking like 50s
you're like Louis.
Armstrong.
Is that oldies?
That's all the oldies, but I'mall the oldies, go the oldies.
I legit think like 50s, 60swhen I think all these 50s, 60s.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah so, like before, you don't think hip-hop can be
oldies Like MC Hammer and Idon't consider that oldies.
That's kind of oldie.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
No.
Yeah vanilla ice run DMC run.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Dmc is oldies now.
Yeah, yes, they're youngies.
No, he's old, he's probably I'm.
Is he still alive?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
run DMC.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
You say that, but I could be gone tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
No the Rev Rev run.
Oh, okay but I get to like.
His kids are obviously on theshow, but yeah he's on there too
.
Yeah, they're still alive.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's far out.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's like TLC and like salt and pepper and like
all those.
Yeah.
Those are the goodies.
They're not the oldies, they'rethe goodies goodies.
Remember LLBJ.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I feel like MC Hammer got the shaft a little bit, not
gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'd like to say vanilla ice got the shaft.
But really he is like he kindof deserves exactly.
I mean he's not like in a badplace, but like.
There's a reason he fizzled outright, there's a reason.
A lot of those guys fizzled outand some of them are still
grasping whereas like I Feellike vanilla ice was like a

(09:19):
really upset when Eminem came up, because he was like I'm like
the number one white rapper,kind of thing, and then like
Eminem came up and was so muchbetter.
Well, I'm an amazelere, assist,so yeah, and I mean vanilla ice,
like ice ice, baby Hasn'tpretty like ice, ice baby is
very monotone cliche like thestop.
Collaborate and listen.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, collaborate is such a boomer thing.
They're like you need tocollaborate, cooperate and
Listen.
It's a triple C's collaborate,cooperate and compromise.
Yeah, I'm not kidding, it's atriple C's.
That's what.
That's what they're all about.
Every CEO boomer will use thosethree words.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Okay, so let's talk about what we've been reading.
Yeah before we get to Caughtoff.
So I have been reading karma byboy George, which is his Memoir
.
Okay he came out with.
I have like a love hate Withlike boy George because I think

(10:26):
he's very creative and he's verycool, but he also like his ego,
oh man.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You got such a thing for me for sure, and I know we
all have it.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
But I'm like dude, like the way that he just like
talks about other people.
You're just kind of like couldyou have like not toned it down,
just like a little bit in yourbook maybe?
Yeah.
And I've been like swappingbetween reading it and listening
to the audiobook, so like maybeit just annoys me more because
it's like he sounds so snooty ashe's saying like yeah but I'm

(10:59):
like, but I do think he's reallycreative and he is really
talented.
So it's like, and it's like hehas a lot of stories about like
Prince and Madonna and like allthose other people.
Yeah coming up.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So it's kind of I don't know a lot times when
people Get a lot of, becausehe's kind of powerful, you know,
like in his own right, right,like he's, he's has influence,
yeah, right.
So like he Probably let that goto his head a little bit and

(11:31):
it's hard to be humble, you knowwell, and he's British right.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
So like was he ever united by Queen Elizabeth?
Do you know?
I don't know.
I feel like that's someone shewould have knighted just because
.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I feel like when I think of England, I just feel a
little let down, you know yeahbecause they're like Colonialism
.
And then they had the Queen ofEngland and Then, you know, they
, she passed it to King George,who's done absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
You mean, it's not George?
Oh, it's Phillip.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Philip right or Charles Charles Charles.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
She was married to Phillip right, and then Charles
is the son.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah and then it's William and Harry, and yeah,
yeah, and I just don't even knowthe one that was on Epstein's.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, and there's that debacle and you're just
like you guys have a lot ofpower, but it's kind of an
illusion, because if you use itit gets taken away.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
So it's like the threat of that one powerful
thing they can do.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I don't know, how do you feel about Kings and Queens?
It's also something magicalabout it, but I feel like, with
all I feel like it's dated withall the modern technology, they
aren't keeping up with whatneeds to be kept in the UK as
well.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
It's like especially Like they're not actually in
charge of doing anything.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
There's nothing bold happening from the the king or
queen.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Nowadays they're basically just the face, and
then they're not even the onesmaking laws or signing laws or
doing anything.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
They're just the face where it's like back in the day
, before all TV or whatever andmodern technology, back before
cars, they had to do these verybold things, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Okay, let's continue.
What have you been reading?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So I just got my check out of iron flame.
Oh nice so I'm gonna start thattonight.
Other than that, I've just beenreading a graphic novel.
Yeah, that's about it.
Cool, I can't remember the nameof it.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I'm obviously not exciting enough to tell you
right in a minute.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
The arts really good.
I just it's been hard because Ijust fall asleep, basically
right when I started.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I feel like that's my problem with a lot of books.
That's why, like with the boyGeorge book, I like reading and
then swapping to the audio bookat night and like falling asleep
to the audio of it.
Also, I've been working onGoblet of Fire again with Ren,
because we took a little bit oftime off and now we're like back
at it and it's like it's nicebecause now we're doing like a

(14:13):
chapter at a time.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, so the graphic novel I've been reading is
called Ultra Mega.
It's kind of gruesome, but thearts really good.
It's like post apocalypticworld man.
I read a lot of postapocalyptic stuff.
There's a lot of that ingraphic novels just in general.
Yeah, and I don't necessarilyfeel like I'm drawn to post

(14:34):
apocalyptic, but it's just soabundant and you have such
creative people Letting theirimaginations go in that
direction.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, and you get a lot of really cool art.
When people like imagine postapocalyptic stuff, yeah, it's
just modern, it's neat.
So what I've been watching thisweek.
Andrew started watching you andhe's like trying to catch up to
me now and I remember when Ifirst watched it being like, oh,
you'd probably like this show,and he was just kind of like,
yeah, and you didn't even likepush it on like you didn't even

(15:05):
try to give it like a thing.
I think you walked in once whenI was watching it and it was
like a sex scene or somethingand you're like what are you
watching?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh yeah, like Lindsay was watching that and there's
just like I think I caught herthree or four times watching sex
scenes and I was like no, it'slike every show I watch.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I was like you got a problem and then I would just
walk out of the room.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, it's like you like the first season especially
had like a lot of sex scenes init.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
And then white Lotus was kind of like the same thing,
like when I was watching that,like he just happened to walk.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I totally get the sex scenes, though, in that show
because it's about Achieving hisgoal right Like memories,
always like ganking it, and thenall of a sudden he's like
accomplished it.
You know, it's like this weird,like dichotomy, where he's like
Self-fulfilling his propheciesSuper, it's kind of I don't know
.
It's not like creepy, it iskind of it's like ominous.

(15:55):
I don't know how to put it.
It's not, but the thing is likehe is that person who's very
like outwardly, like charmingright Like he's.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I hate these.
I don't want to cross the lineof like relatable things.
I don't want to cross the lineof like relatable, no, but like
the thing is if you were at abookstore and that guy talked to
you, you'd be like oh, he's apretty attractive guy, like he
seems normal on the outside.
When you just like hasconversation with people, he
comes across very like charmingnormal like whatever, because

(16:26):
People aren't hearing that innermonologue of like the creepy,
so like right on the outsidehe's completely normal and like
just in every guy.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, there's an undertone, though, that people
are getting right.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well, some people right so, like in the first
season, there's like sheMitchell's character peach where
, like she's, like this guy's alittle weird.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
She's.
There's something off, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
And like, but a lot of people don't like catch on to
that for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Really good.
I recommend it.
If definitely adult show, Wellyeah.
Like it's not something youwant to watch with, like your
pre teens or even your teenslike they can watch it on their
own, maybe, if you know, even 20year old should probably stay
away from now.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
The acting is great.
We were talking about the factthat we're surprised that it
hasn't won a bunch of awardslike Emmys or yeah, there's just
dead choice awards or things.
For sure the acting so goodLike believable, you know and
his podcast is one that I talkedabout on this show a lot too,
because, yeah, I think it's fun.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's cool to go on their podcast or have him on
ours or both.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, so podcrushed also good if you're looking for
a new podcast to listen to youafter you finish this one, and
then what I've been playing thisweek is just more torn, because
Andrew got me sucked in.
It's so good though and then Iwas like, should we be putting,
like our referral, like Bang, inour show notes so that, like

(18:01):
our listeners can check it outtoo, and like yeah play you
could drop it there, I guess, orif you guys want it, you can
always reach out and we canalways.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, for a good too.
If you want to help us out.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean it isn't really beneficial to the person
who refers to you unless you getat least I think it's like
level 10.
Yeah which sounds easy, butit's probably.
To get to level 10 takes youabout a week.
If you're like on every day.
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Speaker 2 (19:38):
Thank you for staying with us.
So, lindsay, I got a bigquestion for you.
I don't know if you're going tobe able to answer this.
Okay, there is a movementhappening right now.
You've probably heard of it.
It's called the green movementand basically it's where

(20:03):
everybody wants to stop usingfossil fuels and use more
sustainable energies.
So my question for you is isthere really a way to do it?
Like because I just have toknow.
I think there is a way to do it, but I'm asking you is there a

(20:24):
way to do it?
And it can't be murder a thirdof the population or wipe out a
third of the population, becausethat's like everyone's go-to
thing, right?
They're like oh, you got totake out some of the population,
half the population.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, I already have an answer for this.
Okay, so we all know thatswitching from gas to energy is
not going to work.
Well, I mean energy.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I mean to electricity , like electric, like batteries?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, electricity is just a conduit, I know.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
But like switching from like to solar.
But I'm saying switching from,not solar, I'm saying switching
from, like gas cars to electricvehicles.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, because they run on batteries.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, so like, and we already are low on like lithium
and things like that.
So like, everybody switchingover to electric batteries.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I actually don't know why they call them electric
cars when they run on batteries.
Yeah, so Like their batterycars?
Yeah so basically batteries.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
We can't just run everything on batteries, and
especially rechargeablebatteries, because, like our
grid just can't handle it andlike even today, like we've had
the electricity go out like 10times, like if everything, like
how would people get places ifthey can't charge their vehicles
?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah and you're like okay, you can charge the vehicle
, that's fine, I'm fine with allthe charging, but like you
still have to make the energy,right.
And you still have to have theways to distribute it.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, so I think part of it as well is we do have
solar power, there's wind power,there's hydro power, and it's
not enough, though.
But I think a lot of this islike like how for a long time
are things like we're gonnaswitch to solar power?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Everything's switching to solar power, solar
power, solar power it's allbreaking down.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
And now it's all breaking down and like it's not
sustainable, like Right.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
So my question still stands like is there a way?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think there's a way to not fully eliminate fossil
fuels, but a way to make it sowe're not so dependent on them.
But I think it's not justswitching just to like to solar
or to wind or to hydro.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Okay, but it's just the energy, right.
I think, it's also displacementof animals.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's also murdering of species.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I mean right.
Those poles that they weretalking about, that they're
starting to use in Australia,where they just vibrate and
create like energy versus like ahuge windmill.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
They kill birds, they flap birds, they don't do that,
but like things that take upless space don't display so many
things.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Your answer is innovation is going to save us.
Is that your?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think we need to be more innovative, but we also
need to use a variety ofdifferent things, and I'll put
all of our eggs in one basket,like we can't just be like
everybody's getting solar,because that's not sustainable
and that's not.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I actually don't think solar is really
sustainable at all.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I don't think it is at all either.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
You're using minerals and resources that can't be
replaced.
Why?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I don't.
I honestly am kind of whyaren't we just using garbage?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Well, you want to burn garbage?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
If it's creating energy that we can use they
already do that.
Yeah, but we're not using itfor energy.
It's so bad for the environment.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I'm just saying, like , can we somehow stop?
Just stop the damage we'redoing.
I'm not even saying reverse.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Because I don't even see that happening.
So how do you feel about, like,when you buy things online, if
they made it where, if it'sfurther than like, say, a three
hour drive, like you can't getdelivery from that place?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
You can't even get that through Like they only ship
things.
You can't even get that throughFrom stores for three hours.
It doesn't even matter, becauseyou can't even get it through
because the people controllingthe Senate, controlling the
lobbyists are the ones pushingfor more star foam.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I know, I'm just saying if there was, if for some
miracle that was able to pass,like wouldn't it be cool if
they'd be?
Like you know what, amazon?
You're not sustainable.
You can't be shippingeverywhere in the world.
And like it used to be lessthan two days.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
So they could be like you can ship everywhere in the
world, but not at the rate thatyou're doing.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
You can't just keep expanding and expand.
It's gonna take you like twoweeks to get something across
the US, not two hours.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, because the thing is is we're destroying
icebergs with huge freight right.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
So it's like they just plow through.
They've got iceberg crushersand so when you break icebergs
up, they just milled off intothe ocean.
What I do think like onlineshopping has created like a huge
problem for the environment,just like the mass amounts of
boxes, shipping materials, Also,we haven't done enough for star
foam either, cause think aboutthis Every house in California,

(25:02):
every new house, has a garbagethat goes out weekly full of
garbage and a recycling bin fullof recycling bin.
How many people are in justCalifornia?
10 million garbage cans daily,like weekly, are going out right
.
Where does that go Like?

(25:25):
Where does all that trash go?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Bad, bad.
How do you?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
stop that?
How can we even stop doing that?
And what about all the stuff inthe trash, like I don't know?
I don't understand Plastics andthings.
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I have to think about these things cause we have kids
and stuff Cause they're like oh, you know you can't put that in
the recycle and you can't putthat in the compost, so just put
it in this other bit.
But you're like, so you put allyour toxic like horrible crap
in this other bit and it all isjust like.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
The problem is, there's no easy fix here.
And the thing is is everybodykind of gets duped into thinking
there's any easy fix.
It's like, for instance,electric car.
Well, electric car to me isjust the next rich person's toy,
and they're making everyoneelse pay For it.
Basically, so they can get theprice down so they don't have to

(26:15):
pay as much.
So it's like here's anotherrich person's toy and it's
subsidized by your tax dollar.
You know it's like why are wemaking more rich people toys
when we have a serious problemon our hands?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, let's talk about something more All right,
I want to go, something like Ourdog went to sheba spa day the
other day her first spaexperience.
Okay dog Because she was don'treally need to be like trimmed
or anything, like they don'tneed haircuts.
So you know it was reallyspecial.

(26:52):
She wouldn't got a bath and aface fluffing and they're like
she's so good.
And I was like good, because Iknow some she was will just
scream when you get their nails.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
She's so much happier right now.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
She like walks around all confident, like look at me,
I got fluffed professionally,I'm like that is like I'm
dignified again.
She's like you were not bathingme to the best of your ability.
I just thought it was fun.
I wanted to mention that.
And then for ourselves, thisweek we went to cryo therapy.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Actually liked it.
I've never done it before.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I hadn't done it before either.
I really enjoyed it.
They just basically turn youinto ice cube Popsicle they like
let you pick a song or likewhat you want to listen to
during.
And I was just like, oh, taylorSwift.
And they're like what song?
And I was like just shuffle it,like yeah, I want to be
surprised when I go in therebecause it'll like I Don't know.
I was thinking it was gonna beway worse than it was.
So I was like, well, if I don'tknow what song it's gonna be,

(27:48):
then it's gonna be more likedistracting.
If it's like a surprise whichthey just played, shake it off
and it was fine.
And then I like just makes mewant to shimmy your shoulders
the whole time.
So it's like fun.
I Actually thought the timewent by very quickly and I
probably could have spent doublethe amount of time in there.
Well, no, no, I mean.

(28:10):
I mean, your body can't do that.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I think, well, I can work up to it, but I think they
had us on like the beginner.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, we were in easy mode.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, so there's like a bunch of fans they can add
and I'm excited trying again.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I know I didn't realize how expensive it
normally is.
We went because they were doinglike an anniversary special and
it was like 15 bucks per personand I was like that seems
reasonable.
So we went and then I found outlike looking elsewhere and at
their normal prices.
It's a normal like 50 to 75bucks a session.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I was like dang.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
They probably cause a lot.
To keep those coolers cool.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
But then it like.
It then makes sense why a lotof those places sell memberships
.
Yeah because you're like, okay,like if you're paying 150 bucks
a month, like if you go atleast three times, it pays
itself off.
Yeah and I'm like that's fair.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I could go every day, Honestly.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I know some people do it twice a day.
I don't think I can do twice aday.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
But I could like, after the gym, sitting in sauna.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I could like pop over to the cryo because your temp
would get almost back to normalby the time you got to the cryo
place from yeah, I.
Don't know, andrew, when welike pulled up, he's like I
don't know about this, like thisarea I don't know if this is
like it was in a nice area hewas just like this is where the
rich people hang out all day.
I didn't really go in thereanything.

(29:34):
He's like this is great.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
It was nice yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
It was.
It was really in there too.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
They were telling me they got a bunch of Kings
Players in there.
Oh, I bet yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I know I'm Tim.
Tebow is like they're likespokesperson yeah so.
They get a lot of athletes, I'msure.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I know Michael J does it.
Michael Jordan yeah yeah, I betyou know we're on first name,
but I'm just kidding, I'mactually pretty sure the
majority of athletes cryotherapy older athletes yeah or
any athletes like yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I also know a lot of actors do cryo therapy.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Oh, neat.
So, Titans the skin.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, and I think it just feels refreshing after like
a lot of times, what you don'tthink about as an actress,
you're standing like on like alot of times, is like concrete
or stuff like all day just yeah.
I mean just like any other joblike waiters or wait stuff, yeah
.
Versus.
Like waiters don't always havethe expendable income to like
benefit.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, they would benefit from cryo therapy, okay,
so okay.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
So the last thing I want to talk about this episode
is mom shaming mom shaming.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
shaming in general, but I think it happens to moms
more so Um so I Karen that'slike when you're on Social media
or some people do it in person,but it's definitely more
rampant on social media.
Someone will like, post a photo, like with their kid, or
they'll talk about somethingabout their kid, or They'll post
a product that they like orwhatever, and then there's

(31:09):
people messaging being like oh,why would you ever do?
Like, give that to your child.
That's tortured.
That's like because likeeveryone has different ideas on
parenting and what shouldn'tshouldn't be like.
If I say, oh, you know whatwe're not gonna give me to our
child until he's a year, right,then you have people in your
thing being like you'redepriving your child of the

(31:29):
nutrients that the blah blahlike and they like shame the
mother for the choice that theymade for their child.
Huh, like, regardless of whatthe choice is, there's always a
ton of people so Like I postedfish.
I posted the other day aboutlike a product that was like EWG
verified, right, like babywipes or whatever.

(31:51):
I was like, oh, like we havethese EWG verified baby wipes
and like they're made out ofbamboo and I think they're
really cool.
And someone was like those aretoxic.
And I was like can you tell mewhat ingredient and then you
think is toxic Cause?
Like.
I looked at all the ingredientsand I EWG and I read all the
info on all of the ingredientsand I'm just curious as to what

(32:12):
like.
Maybe I'm missing something,like maybe like there is
something toxic that I didn'trealize and packaging is toxic,
it's plastic.
And then they were like oh, ithas sodium, blah, blah, blah in
it.
And I was like well, one, ifyou did any research, it's not
toxic when used in the way it'sbeing used.
And number two, it's only toxicif it's mixed with these other

(32:36):
chemicals.
Yeah, it's not mixed with thosechemicals, so it's not toxic.
And then they just were likesuper shamed me about it.
I wasn't.
No, I wasn't.
I was like I would have liked tobe enlightened if it is toxic,
like let me know, but I was likehow petty are you to watch
people's stories and be likethat's toxic and not even know
the information about, likewhat's in?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
something.
Maybe you could tell me, youknow, when moms post pictures of
their kids and they're likecutest baby ever and I'm like
every mom thinks their kid isthe cutest and I every other
person thinks their kid is mykid is the cutest.
See, that's a dichotomy, though, because you're just like
inside your head, he's thecutest.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
No, you're supposed to think that people at the
store tell me all the time.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, but they just do that.
That's just what people do.
They're like oh my gosh, cutebabies.
Babies look the same for themost part.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Babies are kind of creepy looking.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
for the most part they're super creepy and they're
like weird and like they'rekind of like uncomfortable
because they're like staring ateverything.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I know everyone at the store earlier.
I was like waiting for likemouth open.
They're like oh, they have likea coffee like shop in our
grocery store which is next toAndrew's gym.
So we went grocery shopping andthen we're grabbing copies
today and they handed meAndrew's coffee and then I was
like waiting for my coffee stilland everyone kept walking by

(34:03):
and being like, oh, it's thecutest baby and he's like
sitting there but he's likemaking like this grump face at
someone like across the storethat he was just staring down
who was not looking at him, buthe was like so fixated on this
one random person he's probablyattractive.
And he was making the poutiestlike frowning face at the store.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
What do they say?
Children stare at beautifulpeople.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
I think they tell people that to make them feel
better.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
But that's you have no data backing that up.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
There's a lot of data that says like he's like
looking at, is like that man isold.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Old people can be beautiful.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
They can be, I think like that's a?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I actually don't think it has to do with beauty.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
I think it's like features that children find
intriguing, which can be beauty,but I think it could be like oh
, they have features that I findinteresting and that's why they
look at them like that personis, like it doesn't mean ugly or
beautiful, but they could justbe like oh, like, that person
has hair that, like I findintriguing.
Or that person, like has eyecolor that I find really

(35:10):
intriguing.
Like yeah babies.
Like it's not very deep.
No.
As to what they could be like.
They're in a purple shirt.
That's intriguing.
Like it could be the simplestof things.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
You don't know that.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I don't know that for sure.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I could tell you a whole different idea about what
I think, and then you would justbe totally flip flopped.
Maybe, Do you want me to try?

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
What if people that have passed a long time ago are
being reincarnated into yourbaby and, like when they're
first coming into your baby Well, it's not really your baby.
When they're first beingreincarnated, they remember
everything but they can't speakbecause they're babies and they

(36:02):
don't have the functionality.
But they are aware of what'sgoing on around them but they
can't move because they'rebabies.
Babies can barely move and theolder they get they forget.
Right, like they forget aboutthe reincarnation, like they
forget all their old self,because that's what babies do

(36:25):
they're sponges.
So, like, as they get older,they forget and they learn how
to do the things again.
Like walking takes all theenergy, all the brain power,
takes all the learning.
Like reading takes they have tolearn how to read again.
But they may have been aware ofreading, that they knew how to
read when they first came in.
What do you think about thatconcept?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Well.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I just made that up.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
I told you about my fish story.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
That was just my best example of what incarnation.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Did I tell you about my fish story?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
No.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I feel like I told you about my fish story at some
point when I was like a very,very, very small child.
Like I had these very vividmemories of like a fish tank and
looking in a fish tank, in likean earthquake happening and
then like dying.
But I don't know if in thismemory, if I was supposed to be

(37:20):
the person looking in the fishtank or if I was a fish in the
fish tank, but like I had thisvery, very vivid memory.
And what's interesting is thatthe big San Francisco earthquake
was a month and a half before Iwas born, right.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
You just said babies are simple and now you're going
off into this tangent abouthaving a vivid memory.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I have had this memory since I was like born.
Okay.
And like I don't know where itcame from.
Maybe it was a dream I had atsome point.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
But it's a very, it's a very, it's a very boring
dream to remember 34 years later.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
So I feel like there's some significance to
this dream about the fish tankin the earthquake, but I'm
unsure what it could just be anightmare.
You're like maybe it has to dowith the fact that when you were
seven, you trept in your livingroom and hit your head on the
fish tank and the fish died.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I have a nightmare that I remember from being a kid
.
Oh, I have a lot of nightmaresI remember.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'll save that for another time there was this one,
where there were like theseTasmanian devil type creatures
outside that were like, I mean,like Tasmanian devils and like
the cartoon.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
You watched a lot of gremlins.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
And it was like but they had, like these razor teeth
and they would like cut throughlike windows or doors.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
You watched a lot of gremlins.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
And like I remember we had to like board up all the
like windows and doors becausethey couldn't cut through wood.
They could cut througheverything else, but they
couldn't cut through like woodplanks or something.
It was weird and like weboarded all this stuff up and
then they somehow were likecutting on, like they were
coming up under that.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
You never told me that one before.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah.
But it was like at mygrandparents house or something
and they were like trying to getin and we're like they had too
many like glass sliding doorsand stuff in that house.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
So they were like trying to get in and they were
like these things with razorteeth that were just going to
like devour us.
That's one that I like hasstuck with me through many, many
years.
And then lots of snake dreamswhere, like, I'm scared of
snakes.
So anytime there's snakes anddreams, that always gives me the

(39:39):
heebie-jeebies.
Do you have any nightmares thatreoccurring?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, I'll save that for another time, because we are
out of time.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Okay, thank you next Wednesday for another episode of
Wine 30.
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