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November 5, 2025 82 mins
Joe and Anthony introduce the new AEW book by Keith Elliot Greenberg and joke about AEW’s impact and fleeting trends.
[01:15–02:42] Natty’s Book, Family, and Wrestling Books

Discussion shifts to Natalya’s (Natty) book, her family, and playful speculation about her choices for the book’s foreword.
[02:42–04:55] Q&A, Natty, and Wrestling Culture

Pat’s Q&A with Natty is mentioned, leading to a brainstorm of “offensive” questions and anecdotes about wrestling personalities.
[04:55–07:07] Relationships, Social Media, and WWE Raw

The conversation moves to wrestler relationships, breakups, and social media rumors, then transitions into a recap of WWE Raw.
[07:07–19:27] Raw Recap: CM Punk, Logan Paul, and Storylines

Detailed breakdown of Raw’s opening: CM Punk’s promo, Logan Paul’s appearance, and the evolving heel/face dynamics.
Discussion of crowd reactions, character motivations, and storyline complexity.
[19:27–29:00] Character Arcs: Jay Uso, Logan Paul, and Group Dynamics

In-depth analysis of Jay Uso’s character, his “rehab” arc, and the challenges of keeping characters fresh.
Debate about Logan Paul’s future role and potential alliances.
[29:00–35:59] Women’s Division: Matches, Characters, and Critique

Review of women’s matches, including Nikki Bella, Raquel Rodriguez, and others.
Opinions on character development, in-ring chemistry, and the need for new talent.
[35:59–44:01] Tag Teams, Promos, and Match Quality

Recap of tag team matches, including AJ Styles and Dragon Lee vs. Judgment Day.
Commentary on match repetition and crowd investment.
[44:01–50:58] Judgment Day, Dominic Mysterio, and Family Drama

Focus on Dominic Mysterio’s storyline with his father Rey, crowd reactions, and the challenge of maintaining heel heat.
[50:58–57:29] Becky Lynch, Oscar, and Women’s Storylines

Critique of Becky Lynch’s promos, Oscar’s role, and the direction of the women’s division.
[57:29–1:04:34] Tag Team Chemistry, Division Depth, and AEW vs. WWE

Analysis of tag team chemistry, the struggle to build new stars, and the believability of certain matchups.
The conversation turns to AEW’s book, its cover, and comparisons to WWE’s marketing power.
[1:04:34–1:21:20] Closing Thoughts, Book Covers, and Patreon Shoutouts

The hosts wrap up with final thoughts, jokes about wrestling fandom, and sign off.

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Wrestling suit is in tenemented for a mature audience.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
By the way, what was that the AW book you
were playing? Yes, it was, Yeah, dude, I maybe I
need to watch AW this week. That sounds insane because
I fucking just tapped out on RAW. I couldn't watch
any more of it. It was it was It was
not Holy fuck, dude, that was like a war of attrition.

(00:29):
I'm like, a segment happened and said I'm like, all right,
we're getting close to the end, right, And I'm like,
here's another interview, And I'm like, okay, all right, so
a segment's guy, here's another interview. I'm like, all right,
something else is going to happen. Well, how about another interview?

(00:50):
How about a fucking twenty five minute long match? This RAW?
Like that was fun, dude. I was done. I got
to the the Charlotte interaction with fucking Bliss and I'm like,
all right, enough enough, I can't fucking watch any more
of this that. It was bad. That was fucking bad, man.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, it wasn't great wrestling soup. I'm Anthony Thomas, He's
Joe Numbers, speaking of not green. Yeah. No, I picked
up that a w book. I didn't get the audible
version because I hate listening to books, but it'll be
here tomorrow morning.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I will which aw book is? This? Is there a
new one?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
This one is by Keith Elliot Greensburg, right, like he's
got a shit on of books under his belt, but
it's called This book is All Elite, The inside Story
of All Elite Wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
The real fake story of AW Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
All right, I'll read off the I mean, because I
could play a Tony Shavani bit, but I'd read it not.
The heure is twenty nineteen. It is the dawn of
All Elites Wrestling. And you know what that means. It
means that a group of hungry, innovative wrestlers are about
to revolutionize professional wrestling under the visionary eye of Tony Kahan.

(02:12):
It means pulse pounding, death defying, high flying action. It
means that the world of the Squared Circle will never
be the same again. Whether you're a die hard AEW
supporter or curious about the company's revolutionary impact, this book

(02:33):
Is All Elite offers an in depth look at how
the promotion nobody saw coming change the world forever.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
No one saw coming. It was that people knew it
was gonna happen. No one stole for like, yeah, right,
there's so many people that haven't seen it come or unfortunately,
go wow, that's that's really fucking dude. At this point,
with just the level of flash in the pan that
that company is and has been, this is like if

(03:03):
somebody made like a comprehensive guide on the existence of
quiz No's subs. You know, they're like, you see then
it was like this weird like mos premature baby monster
thing that was in the ads and it would yell
about toasted subs and it was popular for two years

(03:23):
and then it was gone.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You know, I didn't know that Pat reads fucking hell, dude.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, he just learned. So he's excited.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
That's awesome, and he's going to start with Naty's book.
Jesus right, it was.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was Cat and the Hat.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Then it was all my friends are Dead, yes, go on.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yes, yeah, then I think it was it was it
mine Mayne camp, mind camp.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
As my camp.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, I'm talking about him going to camp. I think yeah,
years in camp. Sure, sure, and now it's the last
heart beating. By the way, love love Natty, Love Natty.
But that picture bro that picture not to be all ventury,
So that looks like Trish. That looks like Trish on
the cover.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Well, Nandy cleans up. Well, and I was like, good
for you, Matt, But I'm curious. Now Pat's in the
chat and he's actually reading this. Was it awkward reading
it and realizing that she chose the Rock over Brett
Hart to open her book.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
That's a good point. That is an interesting choice. Well,
is that one of those things like it's almost too
on the nose, you know, like maybe some part of
her was like, yeah, I guess if I pick my uncle,
everybody's gonna just roll their eyes. I know, Well, there
you go. Pat's going to be having a Q and
A with her. Maybe that's a good question you can ask. Obviously,

(04:46):
frame it much nicer than you or I.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, no, please don't take me.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
All right, just be like, what led to the decision
for you to choose to have the Rock do the
foreword for your book? That's a pretty solid question, all
things considered.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Why do you hate your uncle?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah? Right, why do you hate your so? Natty? We
know that you're a big cat person, but we're also wondering,
do you hate your uncle? Clet Are you racist? Is that? Why?
Why didn't you have Pat has a camp book that
you can read?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Mister Whiskers, do the forward in your book, Natty, come on, we.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Want abby kind of mew.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, no, no, no, not even not even her husband.
I mean just.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Once again, maybe does she feel like that's too on
the nose? You know?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's like, yeah, because he was training women though too right,
like he was a I don't know if he was
an agent, but wasn't he like a trainer for them?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, but it's also one of those things where it's
like whoa, how did you get him to do it?
You know? Oh yeah, like a little too obvious almost,
like I said, but like Brett's.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Not big enough name, but Brat, that's a big enough name.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
No, not even the name thing. Just you know, you're
trying to make it a little bit. You're trying to
make it special by not having it be somebody who, like,
you know, you can yell downstairs to do it.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'll have to check that out too, because Nady's book
is on my list. I'm waiting for it to hit
the clearance bin next week, and yeah, I'll be sure
to grab that.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Oh boy, all right, So Pat just put this out
there into the eater, all right, and it's just going
out to everybody who's listening live right now. He has
said that best offensive question gets asked, So that one's
on you chat, that one is on you.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I've already wanted to be I already got three ready
to roll.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But you know you're like, already have them written to them.
I have them in there. You see. The funny thing
is this, right, there are people who I would feel
very comfortable with in wrestling being mean to them or
to say something nasty to them to their face.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, not win back anymore, Jesus Christ. I mean, is
is it little Morgan going to trial like right now
because of that fan that was stalking her?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Like, well, mish, not like I'm gonna follow you your
car and yell at you. I'm just saying, like if
I fucking bitch, Like no, I'm saying, you know, if
I was doing an interview or something, and I would
be like, I'd ask some of them some real hard questions.
But Natty's like a true like true blue sweetheart.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah you don't, yeah for real?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, but maybe maybe you'd ask her a question that
would be kind of like blue, because you know you'd
get a good answer out of her. But I couldn't
picture myself want to be blue.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
She was even blue on that silly Total Divas show. Yeah,
Natty seems like she'll slammed down a couple of beers
with the boys.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You know you see that boy, Oh boy, I just
almost got real late nineties fucking Howard Stern there for
a second. I'd be like, Natty, if you if you
were a dude you had a ween, who would be
the lady that you would most like could get it
with in the w w WE lack of room?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Her sister.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
She's not there all the time, man, like you gotta
I mean, like actually there. Oh but that yeah, but which,
by the way, I'm well being fair, being fair. That
would also be a really funny question to ask all
of the straight men on the WWE roster to be like,
if you're had a vagina, who would you give it
up to. Let's be real, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Gun there, Gunther and Ludwig Kaiser getting some extra calls
this week.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Huh yeah, right, yeah right, gun that guy would fuck
very good. Yeah, I'm sure Ruce oh Rusev. Honestly, God,
that would be even funnier. Put you know what, I'm
put that out into the eat Through. I'm gonna give
this this bit away for free because obviously it's just
it's brilliant, it's so genius. But I'm fucking around to

(08:54):
any gay wrestling podcast guys make a list or have
a bit where you talk about which wrestler you think
would pick which guy to go gay with to shack
up with. They could do that, right, like Finn, Like
Finn would probably want to. I mean, Finn would probably
pick JD. Because you know, that just makes sense, right.

(09:16):
I mean, Unfortunately, I think I'm just doing fan fiction
right now. But this is how bored I was with
raw Is.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm just hey JD go and shout out from CM
punk that was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yea, and then lost and then and then and then
lost an hour and a half fucking later. Oh my god,
that pissed me off.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I thought it was I might that he was even mentioned,
Like nobody ever mentions JD McDonough, nobody ever mentions Forehead
and Punk's like, yeah, you know, if I'm having a
bad day and he's having a good day, this might
be his strap. And I was like, look, at that.
That was awfully nice of you, mister Phil.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, that was very kind of him, but also at
the same time, a little bit, like I said, also
fucked up knowing that apparently the guy was just gonna
lose an hour and a half her on the show.
You know, it's like, hey man, hell of performance last week. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, anyways, so anyways, just wrap up that book thing.
The hardcover book is thirty bucks on Amazon. It's already released.
It released today.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So so, Naddy, whoever, if you were, if you were
a fella or you were into the ladies, who would
you like to get with in the w W WE
lacked room? Kind of offensive it, But I don't think so.
I think there's no thatsappen, Like, isn't Naddy.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Kind of like low key friends with Shana?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh? Like I didn't. Yeah, And I know she imagine
if she imagines she just punches the table and yells
Shana and starts barking, She's like, shut up, bo like
just really actually into it, that would be.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I know, she used to be really close friends with
Ronda for a bit there, and I know I know
we don't.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
That just shows you how nice Natty. So Natty should
I put in an application for Saintthood for you since
you were able to deal with Ronda Rousey for periods
of time because she's a fucking shit waffle. Yeah, she blows. No,
that's honest to God. By the way, Pat posted a
thing there fucking Big Pam. Big Pam's gonna show up.

(11:19):
Apparently that's kind of cool. You should have Pat asked
Big Pam if she's got any questions for Natty. I
bet you she'd have some good ones, good old.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Big Pam, nice.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Naya otice as like a like a as an I
R L couple. By the way, I guess we might
as well just we might as well just get into
all this ship because it doesn't really fucking matter because
we're sucking the fat gong. Well, no, no, I can
Can we talk about the Kaiser thing real quick before
we get into shitty raw?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
So what do you think? I mean? You already know
my feeling on this good call on his part? I
say yes, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
All right, So apparently there's video floating around of him
dancing with I guess different latinas right, or just the one?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
But oh no, just that one. Fucking ridiculous smoke show, dude.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Right, and you were saying that they broke up in June.
Obviously the dirt sheets are saying they just broke up now.
But I mean, well, that's what I was saying. It's like,
if they just broke up and he's already got a
side piece, I'm like, man, that's that's a little fast, bro.
But if they broke up in June, ninety days, playball,
he's all good?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
So well. I also, like I said, sometimes free agency,
he can't wait, can't wait? Right?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
How long is THATCHI going to be out on the
market for. I mean, I'm just real being real with
you folks. Like, if that woman is single and interested
in you, and you broke up with your girlfriend two
weeks ago, you get her number, right, Yeah, you get
her number. I don't know how to explain that any
other way.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Dan said that Tiffy Stratton was tweeting about losing one
hundred and seventy five pounds a while back. Was that
the was that the code? Uh? Is that the crypto?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, I jumped a hero and got with the hero.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Maybe screwed up her career a little bit, because you know,
people get emotional right during the turmoils in their life.
I wonder, and I know this sounds really far fetched,
but you wonder if she hasn't been able to focus
with all this shit going on in the background. I mean,
I'm not saying you can use that as the sole
excuse for the reason that she's been lackluster lately, but

(13:33):
maybe maybe that adds to it. Maybe that's one of
those spices that makes things a little more difficult Chewtown.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, it's possible. And and by the way too, and
I mean this is no sort of shitty derogatory way,
but she's a younger person too. They take they'll take
a break up differently, you know. True, let me, she's
still a young.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Woman, twenty something year old, hot blonde that has a
prominent role on television as a champion. I'm pretty sure
she's she's got a you Sue tours.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right, But there's also something, I mean, there's a lot
of layers to that, Like a Shrek onion, there's a
lot of layers, right. So first and foremost, there were
a lot of people that would tell you back when
they got together, what a lucky duck Kaiser was to
even get with her. Right of course, that this. You know,
sure shit didn't stink. She was the next big thing.
She's just hot, you know, smoking hot babe or whatever

(14:22):
the fuck is how lucky? How lucky is he? Right?
You know? And she and let's be real, she probably
kind of felt that way too, right, I think I
would assume.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then and then you're thinking you're doing him a
fucking favor, right, then the breakup happens. You know, we
don't know who did it. Maybe he did, maybe she
did whatever, And you're thinking to yourself, you know, oh,
I dropped that one hundred and seventy five. And then
you turn around and he's with like a gorgeous Latina model.

(14:56):
Yeah you know they in Mexico. Oh, with a free leah.
So yeah, right, Like it's one thing though, I guess
maybe this is just you know, regular average dumpy guy
mentality that I would have. You know what, there's nothing
wrong with getting bested, you know, you get broken up

(15:17):
with or yeah, you end up separating, having a situation.
Shit kind of dissolves. And then you look and you
see that person with somebody and you go, that's a
good looking person. I I get it. I got beat Man,
well done, well done. That's one thing. But if you've
lived your whole life is getting to be the person
that's super special and like, you know, they're lucky to

(15:39):
have me, and then you get beat, that probably is
a different type of butt hurt. Yeah, does that make sense?
I mean, I I don't know if there's something that
we can just relate to as regular shmo dudes, because
you just go, well, you know whatever, wash mow to
the next shmow.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Maybe somebody at her level already being elevated so high.
I don't even think that matters, you know what I mean.
The only way I would say that this matters is
if they caught fields, like if the relationship was more
than anything physical or friendly, you know, like if there
was real intent there and maybe in four years we
get married, you know what I mean, Like if there
were talks, Joe, this might have floored her. But if

(16:21):
there was no talks and this was topical and hey,
we like each other, we're good friends, we like to
go out and have fun.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I think people can both walk away from that and
be fine.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know, well, I guess once again I get to
bring up one of my favorite guys. I guess if
your lady is like, yeah, I'm doing I'm doing work
in Mexico, and then you see her and she's like, oh,
who who's she leaving you for? And it's like some
hunky andrade guy with blonde hair and muscles. She'd be like,
all right, yeah, all right, well, well, well played, I

(16:55):
got fucking I got tooled. It's all right.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
So raw raw started. You know, we were in New Mexico, right.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yes, another hot spot for pro wrestling.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yes, in Rio Mexico Ranchero, the New Rio Ranchero, New
Mexico Ray Jam packed what was it? Two hour and
forty two minute raw, to which Brian Alvarez said online
that there were problems with the opening segments, that it
went too long. I don't know if I'd hardly blame
seam Punk for how long this went. Maybe it's the

(17:26):
lack of Triple H, because there's been rumors about Triple
H not being at a bunch of these raws because
he's too focused on his political career. And yeah, I mean,
digest that one for a second. But we we opened
up with Sampunk celebrating his wind coming down to the ring,
thanking everybody under the sun, thanking JD McDonough and wanting

(17:48):
to challenge him and Finn Ballor and thanking j Uso
and his hot assed wife aj Lee, and we get
a surprise appearance from his first challenger, who was Logan Paul,
who came out there to the cavalcade of booze, which
was great. It was great. It was great because they
needed somebody fresh. And I know me and you have

(18:10):
talked about this before that the brand split really isn't
fucking doing any favors, especially for people that aren't watching
SmackDown all the time. Logan Paul making an appearance to
take on see him Punk and see him. Punk's overreaction
to Logan Paul just screamed no, no, not Logan, no
anybody but him. And I'm just like, geez, that was

(18:31):
a little yeah, it was so extra, and I was
just like, all right, this is comedy.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
But look, uh, I gotta say the Punk's promo segment
was good. All the shit that he was saying, well enough,
like you said, though, this was suffering from once again
too fucking long. Nobody there saying all right, guys, enough enough.
We have another two hours and forty minutes apparently of

(18:55):
show to have tonight, so let's see if we can
scoot this along. It's tad or you know, plan to
rush some other shit across the show. But my god, dude,
Logan Paul, I think you could turn him face, but
it can't be in one fell swooper.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't want him to go face.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I think that he I don't either, but I think
you could. I think you could.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
They have too many faces right now, if you ask me,
it feels that way. They don't have any believable heels
right like, I feel like wwe needs people to boo.
I mean, the fans have practically turned dom face. The
only way and getting to that portion of the show
later on, the only way people genuinely boot Dominic again
was because they had to have his father come out.

(19:41):
He was like the only person that could take his
thunder away for half a minute, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
And even then, there were some moments in that where
I'm sitting there going is this like when you're doing
the whoop? Is ass chant for a moment, I'm going,
is this for dam or Ray? Yeah? I did too.
I I questioned it. I'm on, ah, is dom bad over?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Now?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
He very well could be. They might have waited a
little bit too long to pull the fucking trigger on that, because.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
So he's gonna have to do something horrible to his
dad down the road. He's gonna have to do something horrible.
He's gonna have to really fucking break daddy, and that's
what it's gonna have to be in order to get
him back to the dark side. But speaking of Logan Paul,
then we had the vision come down the Bronze and
Paul Hayman and a little tet to tet went on

(20:30):
and Logan Paul kind of stood armed to arm with
see him Punk while the challenge was being made, and
then Logan Paul kind of dipped out of the ring.
He said, you know what now this is your problem Punk,
Oh fuck yourself, and he tried to get past bron
Bronson Reid and then he tried to get past bron Breaker.
Bron Breaker fucking Goon armed him into the side of
the apron and dropped him and then they went in

(20:51):
and there was fisticuffs going on, and then Logan Paul
jumped back in even the odds and it was this
weird moment where Logan Paul not the type of person
you expect to do anything virtuous. But here we are
in this moment where we had to see him Punk
and Logan Paul kind of going back to back with
the vision and eventually all spilled out of control. And

(21:11):
that's pretty much how the segment ended.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
So hm it was. It was sloppy towards the end,
sloppy too long. Like I said, the way that they
played this with Logan Paul was decent enough because at
first you made him be like, oh fuck you, I'm
out of here, and the division or such showeds that
they still fucking you know, shove him on his ass
and try to bully him. So that's why he comes back.

(21:36):
But then he gets squished and Punk comes into the
ring and Punk laze him out with the chair. And
then I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, is Punk gonna
even I don't know, offer him a hand up or
something to even be like, hey, let me give you that.
He doesn't even do that. I'm thinking to myself, Okay,
what's what is with the complete lack of babyface heal continuity? Well,

(22:00):
that is making it so confusing the crowd to cheer
he boo all the time.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Again, I will add this which added to the complexity
of what you're talking about. During Cmpunk's portion of the promo,
he went back and he was talking about the fact
that in the very beginning when I returned, I told
everybody I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to
make money. And I thought that, and the crowd cheered that,

(22:24):
and I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, I don't know
if we're supposed to be cheering that. That was again
one of those weird things that for the longest time
kept me on the fence, thinking that cmpunk is pretending
to be a face and working as a heel underneath.
And here he is again reiterating this point, and it's
like the fans are cheering it, and he's doing it

(22:45):
in such a positive way. But I'm like, I don't know, man,
Like that's selfishness.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Woo right, right, huh. It's a little strange of a
thing to reiterate.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Hey, nice, I finally became champion once I got rid
of all the minorities.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Who yeah, yeah, and they're like, what, sir, do you
know the makeup of the population in New Mexico by
any chance tell you that? No, it's what a weird
I mean, just a weird segment. And like I said,
do I think that they should turn Logan Paul babyface?

(23:21):
Not really? Could they do a slow burn and do it?
I think they could. Is this more than likely going
to lead to him joining division though? And it's like
Bobby right.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, well, especially after the way the whole show ended. Yeah,
I would say, so, look, well here, let's talk about it, right.
I think you need to keep Logan as a heel.
He has natural hatred for him. Taking that away and
forcing him into a babyface position throws away the opportunity
of having Logan Paul as this super baby superheel. And

(23:56):
I don't know, but I think the evolution of Logan
Paul matters more when the best heel you have in
the company right now is shelfed right.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, well, I mean I think that this is all
heading somewhere that could be really interesting. By that, I
mean almost insufferable, borderline unwatchable. You have the two bronze right,
Logan Paul and Jay Uso, and you have the new
chud line. You know, just real guys that get under

(24:32):
your skin, bordering on being annoying to the point of
wanting to turn the television off. Just make it.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Honestly, I wouldn't guess what you us. I think Jay
Uso can stay in the weird limbo that he's in.
Leave him alone. I think if you really want to
make it for you get dominic mysterio involved. No, y
you have him turn on Judgment Day, because Judgment Day
and him are at odds at this point when you

(25:00):
have him turn like but I wouldn't even do that.
I don't even think you need to do that. I
think you stick with Logan Paul, Paul Hayman. The Paul's
and the Bronze. That's what you have. Oh, the Paul's
and the Bronze.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
The Pauls and the Bronze. Yeah, dude, I don't call here.
Comes to the Bronze and then when Big Show gets
out of his contract, Wait, no, I don't have I'm
not really interested in this that much division.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I like Logan Paul with them. I mean, he's a
younger guy, he's well built, he can talk much better
than Brown Breaker can. Obviously, Paul Hayman is a great
influence for the character of Logan Paul because one thing
that Logan Paul hasn't had as a manager he hasn't
had any direction. What better way than to give him
somebody like Logan Paul, especially after during that promo, Paul

(25:54):
Hayman made it very clear that the only reason, at
least in his mind that they lost when he was
speaking of himself and Sampunk that they lost the world title,
it was Sam Punk's fault, not Paul Hayman's fault. So
it's like, little seeds like this make me think that
Logan Paul is going to be the perfect edition to that.
And right now, these two guys, as much as we

(26:15):
like bron Breaker and Bronson Reid, they need someone else.
They need a third And if Logan Paul is going
to be bitch Boy for a little bit, I'm okay
with it. I don't think he should be the leader
of the group by any means. I think you still
give that hat to Paul Hayman in the way that
they do. But yeah, Logan Paul being a third there,

(26:36):
that's just going to add more of that heat that
they direly need. The problem is is that people want
to cheer bron Breaker. Every time he shows up, Everybody
starts barking, everybody gets in his corner, and that's the
problem that we had with Seth for so long. How
can we believe this guy is this major fucking heel
when everybody's too busy humming his noise.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, this is the problem with attaching heal characters to
shit that is forever babyface reactions. You know, you have
a noise, you have a song, you have it, Like,
you can't feed into that because people like it. They
want to do it, they want to interact with it,

(27:17):
they want to like, okay, back, let's let's go on
the way back machine. When d X was doing the
sucket right at some point, that was just a babyface thing.
And if they were like, yeah, I'm a heel. Now
when I'm doing socket, people are like, hey, it's still
suck it. That's great. Like you just you can't put
that fucking toothpaste back in the tude. Yeah, it's an overthing.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
But Logan some doesn't have anything though Logan paul Is
is universally hated.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
It's like, why would.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
You want to take that away and make him the
good guy? Why would you want to take away natural
heat and force him to be a babyface. Didn't we
just learn our lesson with Jay Hussel, Like.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's just well, there's also let's talk about the difference
in characters here, right, Logan Paul is a guy that
I think that he's young and arrogant enough that you could,
like I said, plant seeds and take six months to
a year and turn his babyface and the people would
come along with it. Jay Usso's character quite literally feels
like a guy going through the fucking twelve steps of

(28:21):
an alcoholic anonymous music. Okay, and I don't even mean
that because of a real I'm not making any sort
of real connotations are alleged and nothing, but like his
character almost feels like if you're watching a TV show
about like a guy coming back from rehab trying to
get his life together and working down at the fucking
box factory or something like. That's the feeling you get

(28:44):
from Jay's character, where he's like, I'm just you trying
to figure it out, man, I'm trying to put the
pieces together. It's like if all of a sudden, Jay
started having like his a strange sister show up right
and be like, Jay, you know how you used to
be right? And he's like, I know, I used to
have problems, man, but I'm trying to make things right, right,

(29:07):
trying to make right like that's how his character Legit
feels like we're watching.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
That bad I mean he's right now. He's got like
fucking he's got psychological damage, right because Paul Hayman and
him had to sit down little thing in the back right,
and Paul's like, oh, you were always my favorite member
of the bloodline. Blah blah blah. And Jay's like, I'm
just trying to do things on my own. It's like, well,
that doesn't sound like the tribal chief would do that.

(29:34):
Man screwed the tribal chief, screwed Jimmy Uso, screw Sea Bun,
screw everybody.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's Jay's time. Now it's James time.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I guess said.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
He sounds like a fucking your alcoholic uncle trying to
get a shit together. You know. He's like, oh, you know,
I used to I used to be I used to
be something.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Man, I used to you.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
My name is up. I'm on the wall in my
high school, I said track records.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Nobody's beaked him. And it's just like, oh, fucking christ,
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
He has fallen hard, harder than ever expected. Look, it's
one thing when we were when this whole ja Usso
phaze began to not really be sure where it was
gonna go, if the guy was gonna get over past
his entrance or anything like that. But now we're at
the point where it's peaked, it's valued. I don't know

(30:30):
where the fuck we go with him anymore. Ja Uso
after CM punk, after losing this title shot feels so flat.
You're right. Flat isn't even the word for it. It
feels like it's a waste of time to put him
on TV.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
And it's constant, by the way, too, it's constant. There
is no relief from having to see jay Uso on
this show. And enough, like I said, like this show,
I like I said, it was like a war of attrition.
I just stopped after the Charlotte Bliss thing, which there's
no value to that. It's completely uninteresting. I don't understand

(31:08):
what like hopefully they're just taking the belts off this
and letting Charlotte go become a singles wrestler because they
fucking need that. It's there's so much shit that's boring
on this show, and jay USO's mega push that is
not fucking working for anybody. Other than the people that
want to see him not dressing the way that he was,
not wearing the shit that he was. What are we

(31:31):
doing then, I don't know. It's a waste of time.
It's a complete waste of time.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I think Jay Uso is gonna get a Blue brand
ticket pretty soon and they're gonna swap him off for
a Jacob they got.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
To please do.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, but yeah, No, when you're bringing up the Charlotte
and a Bliss thing that's going on, I will say,
you know we talked about that before too. Is that
the branding needs to kind of relinquish itself. Another case
where we're starting to get more mixture, or at least
the idea where we're gonna have different brands, tag teams,
different brand rosters competing for the same title, which I

(32:06):
like that. I'm okay with that. I understand that the
Bliss and Charlotte thing itself is kind of awful. I
just want Charlotte to go back to being the evil
fucking queen and Bliss can go back and try to
make a baby or something. I don't know, whatever the.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, I don't know, just not be on TV right.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I just she just doesn't do anything for me. She
just doesn't add any validity.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I don't need a thirty four year old woman trying
to play a spooky, haunted child's doll with a plastic
nose like I'm just I'm sorry. It's fucking it's done.
Sometimes things are done and you need to move on
from them. Well, the Alexa Bliss thing has been dead
for fucking years and we're still putting her on TV. Enough.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, speaking of dead, we did have Stephanie Vakura and
Nicki Bella versus Roxy and Raquel Rodriguez, all four women Latinas,
but one of them is not like the others. Nicky
Bella takes the loss in this match Raquel. Once again,
they call it what what Mommy cool?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Big daddy mommy cool?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Or yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Daddy, mommy is I'm okay. Sometimes when mommy's and daddy's
of each other a whole lot, they make a mixed
ize tag mancome girl, one little girl. But yeah, Nicky
Bella loses again.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Stephanie, you know, honestly, she feels saddled with Nicky Bella.
And I thought it was weird too that Stephanie opened
for Nicky. So Stephanie comes out there with the fog
and the fire and everything else like that, and she
brings an element to her. She has an allure to
her character. She has a presence. And then Nicky comes

(33:41):
out and she's just spinning in a circle, stripping to
fucking smoke with her old ass.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
You know what you mentioned earlier, Naddy going to the
strip club and boy, hey to equate this because I
think that the Coru is obviously gorgeous but very very
talented too, But it feels like the way that somebody
would be at the strip club and they'd be like,
and here's the hottest girl in the world, and now
here's a forty year old trippers so still trying to
do it and it's like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, I mean, Nicky's gorgeous, right like, there's no taking
it back. She's a very pretty woman. But at the
same time, this is this is apples and raisins, so.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's it's honest to god, like once again, not trying
to be overly mean here, but are we done with
the charity work yet?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
No, it's gonna continue. They're a tag team. Clearly they're
building this feud up with Raquel and fucking Roxy. I
hope this feud ends in a way where man, I mean,
I don't want her to go here. But if Stephanie
turned around and just smashed Nicky in the face when
she loses again, I'd be okay with it. I would

(34:48):
almost think it was a baby face move. You lost
three in a row. You cost me two matches. I
had to literally run out in the first one and
save your ass from getting killed. Like, why the fuck
are you here? You suck?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, why do I have to keep I have a title?
Why am I doing this exactly? Why do I have
to keep saving this fucking middle aged lady from her
own stupidity?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
They don't even have good chemistry and the ring Joe
like they.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Don't know it makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Well not even just that they don't even have fake
good chemistry, Like they don't even look like they're friends,
Like they're just two people that are on the fucking
apron at the same time. That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Suppose Liita could still do her thing. Oh that would
make sense, don't you think, Oh Lida comes out in
the Jenkos with the sexy kind of multiicolored hair, I'm
a girl just don't quite fit in. And then you know,
I was a girl that didn't quite fit it. Okay,
that makes sense. It's like, are we supposed to think
devil horn girl the core in her s and m

(35:52):
outfit is rarely sitting around washing total divas being like,
I wish I could drink wine on the couch. Finally,
I could drink wine on the couch.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I wish I could talk my effeminate brother off a ledge.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Oh no, I wish nothing more than I could sit
around and get drunk with my sister. That would be
my dream.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
I wish I could talk to Johnny Laura and iis
and call him daddy, non non sexually once. Yeah, sure, sure, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
It's it's not great.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
There's just no chemistry on any level between those two,
and it's weird that they saddled them together. I realize
it goes back all the way to like Royal Rumble
or some shit, but it's just ye.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Listen, take the fucking belts off of charlottean old pointy
face there, old Picasso face. Not that Charlotte's face is
not looking equally as terrifying. It's like a haunted doll,
fucking Annabelt tag team. But get that and separate them
and then have whatever happens next week, and I want

(37:01):
to Charlotte face off with Stephanie vercor.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Right, we go fast cage, you know, we go from
Niki losing to after that they kind of separate off.
Then we get a little bit of the Kabooki Warriors promo,
building up the hype between the tag teams with the women,
and then we get to Penta in Al Grande Americano,
which again I should say it's surprising, but it's not surprising.

(37:23):
How amazing this match is Penta did he take something?
Did somebody introduce him to caffeine before the match? Because
he was on fucking fire during that. He was flying
around to the point where I'm like, yeah, this is
an almost fifty year old man jumping twenty feet out
of the fucking ring. Like I was so impressed.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Penta was great in this. I mean, I'm happy to
say that all of my trepidations of when he first
showed up have been disproven because I thought to myself,
all right, you come out, you got the cool dance,
got the cool gear. You know, let's see if we
can adapt to the style and have entertaining fun matches.
And he's done a great job. I mean, he's fucking

(38:09):
killed it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
The only thing negative to the match was Bravo and Mayonnaise.
I just I mean, they're not necessary. They're not necessary
for every match, right, Like I understand that that Al
Grande Americano has his own crew and stuff, but maybe
we limit that a little bit, maybe because because it's
almost like they're trying to say that Algrande Americano can't

(38:32):
win a match without these two together, and I'm like,
that's bullshit. Nobody's buying that. If anything, these two guys
are like the means the Mexican mean street posse. They're
just gonna fuck it up for.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Them, you know, right. And there's and there's also, like
I said before, when those guys got into the got
into the mix, right when the day comes where those
masks come off, people are gonna be like, okay, right,
they don't even gonn know who the fuck they are.
It's not like we took people that we're even actual
former mid card talent that's on the downswing and said, hey,

(39:08):
put the masks on him. So when the day comes
where those masks come off, people are going to go, hey,
that's fucking Delo.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Brown if they took it off and it's totus in Omas.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Wait a second, I know that's a little bit confusing.
Oh no, it's I mean, I don't know what to
say negative about the Grande Americano thing, just based off
of the fact it's working, it's getting over, it's getting
over in two countries. What am I going to tell
you about that? I would say to myself, and not

(39:46):
to push it along too fast and to make it
too obvious, but sooner than later I would have the
hot girlfriend there start showing up with him and cutting
promos and interview him and having like why not?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
You know, I thought about this a while ago, and
it's funny that you bring it up like that, because
I wasn't even trying to equate the girl that he's
dating now to bringing her on on screen. But I
thought of how interesting would it be if El Grande
Americano did the ravishing Rick Rude thing in Mexico. Just
every city he goes to, he asks for a woman

(40:24):
to come in there and dance with him, and then
he dips him and kisses him.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
And kills it. Yeah, it is a great dancer. Yeah,
but he's not getting heat because people in Mexico actually
have a sense of humor, like they get what this
is supposed to be, you know, like they're not they're not.
I thought that Chad Gable would get heat, which he
would have if.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
He was kind of was, especially when they did that
stupid I mean to introduce it. They did politically try
to piss everybody off by introducing him from the Gulf
of America because.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
You know, right, and and it was all so like
Chad Gabel had real heat, you know, like he just
as a character and oh he's being sneaky, and like
the problem is, Kaiser is too good at this. He's
too good at it, too good, he's too good, better
Mexican than he is a German. What the fuck? Yeah,

(41:17):
I mean, and he's do you know what this is?
This is like one of those moments where you hear
from people where they say, you know, I got this
job and I thought I'll be here for six months,
and now I've been here for twenty five years. Yeah,
you know, like he's one of and by the way,
like happily they've been there for twenty five years, not
like I'm trapped in a hellscape in the can't afforda

(41:38):
he's he's genuinely fucking loving this. He's great, He's great
at the gimmick. Like you said, there was all these
rumors about him actually just wanting to move to Mexico. Well,
I mean, now I fucking want to move to Mexico
if I would say he's down there, he's making the
gimmick work. He's speaking Spanish, he's he's dancing, he's singing,
he's dating a model on there. It's like he's too

(42:02):
good at this to be bad.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
It's even funnier because it still feels like the WWE
machine isn't behind him. Am I wrong in saying and
not saying that they aren't obviously pushing the guy? But
you would think with the amount of charisma and the
amount of attachment that people have to this character, love
him or hate him, that he would be getting those
j usso fourteen breaks in an hour kind of moments,

(42:28):
you know what I mean? Or is it the fact
that they don't focus on him so much that keeps
the allure, the mystery that makes his character so much better?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, well, somebody would
have to tell me how that he's being presented more
full time or whatever. Down in Triple A. I would
fucking going back to him having the girl with him.
I think that would add a layer as far as Okay,
he's a German guy with two English guys pretending to

(42:58):
be Lucia Doors, and then you get yourself this like
Latin American fucking goddess to follow them around and be
like Grande Americano is all man, he is all Mexican.
He is a Mexican god, and like, really have her
sell it, and you'd be like one of those guys

(43:19):
names fucking Churo Andlo or whatever, be like, fuck, she
was gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Bring back Electro Lopez. She already knows the system a right.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Could she talk? Is she a good promo? I have
no idea.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
She's okay. Yeah, she's fine.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
She's like I don't care. Yeah, she's great whatever she
can learn both.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Of her promos.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, I listened to her talker.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
No, she's fine. She was working with Santo's Escobar and
all those guys. Look out of the funt Cosma. She
was great in that she had her little back and
forth with Axiom or Axos or whatever his name was.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Seems still a thing I forgot about that around Axiom
and uh Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah, Abraham Lincoln, Yes, he's.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Still Lincoln and Axiom. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
But yeah, no, she's she's fine, She's absolutely capable. I
think that's if you're really making And here's the funniest
thing too, when you're bringing up Ludig Kaiser and you're
bringing up his attachment to Mexico. This is what they
should have done in TNA. It's funny how Dominic and
Ludgig Kaiser and even Chad Gable underneath the version of
El Grande Americano are so over and have bridged that

(44:30):
gap between WWE and Mexico. You think that w W
could have done this with TNA by now you think
you think you would think and they've had opportunities, right
like we got a little you gotta I should say
you you got a little bit of shit. I got
a little bit of ship for mentioning Jordan Grace the
other week as an alternative when we were talking about

(44:50):
the Saturday Nights made event as opposed to Jade Kergel
and Tiffany Stratton as an interesting you know, a surprise
opponent or something like that. But yeah, Jordan Grace, Joe
Hendry like there have been back and forth that WW
we could have really focused on and they just kind
of don't pull the trigger on a lot of this stuff.

(45:10):
And it's weird. It's just weird, It's all I'm saying.
But they're doing well as far as Mexico goes, and
good for them.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, there's I don't know, I feel like we've given
this way more than it deserves. But it was one
of the it was one of the better things on
the show. Well, and that's not saying much.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
The next thing we went up to was the Dominic
Mysterial promo where he came out there and kind of
started shit talking people, and then Daddy came out there
and kind of said, you could say what you want,
but you won't let you disrespect Luca Libre.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
That was another odd that's an odd way. You can
shit on me, but don't make fun of Lucha Libra.
I'm like, are you sure sure about that? Yeah? It
was shouldn't it be a thing?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Should he even acknowledges that Eddie was his dad in
that problem, just openly right to his face, and Ray's like, yeah, whatever, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
He's like, yeah, he just called my wife a horror
that's fine. I'll just I just called your mother a
big slot. But that's okay. You know Raymas Stereo, you
just see him and he's like he's going he goes
into his hotel room and it's just like, did Raymond
Stereo just put an upside down pineapple on his door? Remember,

(46:29):
he's like seeks one nine. That's how many people I
want in my fucking bade you do? Yeah? Yeah, six. Yeah,
he's like sixty nine. And then someone's in between us,
and I got to suck with between them. Rich is

(46:49):
very hard because I am moy po kito. Oh shit,
I know there's a really gross show. Guys. I'm sorry,
I don't know today, I'm just in a mood. I
guess no.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
But we're at this point now that Dominic is so loved.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I'm the one risk, he's the one six, like what.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
And he's just rolling around like the fucking like a
hot dog at the fucking seven and left.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Taking shots. Yeah, oh man.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Lord swinger Ray Mysterio, who knew?

Speaker 3 (47:31):
But yeah, this promo I think was just dedicated to
trying to get Dominic more heat, because once again, like
you've pointed out before, Dominic is so over with the fans.
The fans cheer for him even though they're booing for
him at the exact same time. He's impressive, he's got
great matches, he delivers decent promos like he's loved and
hated multiple countries. At this point, the only way you're

(47:54):
gonna get this guy to get hated again is to
have him beat the ship out of his dad. And
it's kind of like, this feels like an emergency cord.
This feels like the red cord that you pull to
get the bus to stop real quick, because I don't
know what else you could possibly do besides having them
hit a woman or something like. There's not really much
left for Dominic to do. In order to keep him

(48:17):
on this heel, this heel run, he has to establish
some kind of evilness, some kind of you know, dastardly
ness about himself.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
You know, I don't know. I'm not sure if he'll
be able to They waited a little too long. I
know Ray got hurt, so that put him in a
weird spot. But now at this point, I couldn't see
these guys having a match and the dueling chance let's
go Ray, let's go dumb. I could see that being
a problem. Yeah, for real, where what two three years

(48:47):
ago when Ray took that fucking belt off and started
hitting them in the place literally shit their pants. I
was like that that was one of the honest to god,
that was one of the best moments in WW in
the past five years or so half decade. Was Ray
fucking getting a hold of him in that match and
whipping him all.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
That was so satisfying. It was therapeutic to watch.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, people, and and by the way, like old school
ship and the crowd, like I said, I couldn't get
over how fucking good of a moment that was. Now though,
like I said, you could very well get a moment
where Ray could get on the ropes and Dom could
hit him with the belt and half the crowd be
going yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Ray isn't doing himself any favors by going yeah, you
can call me a piece of shit, and you can
call your mam a piece of shit, but don't get there.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
In my mouth. You can speak to you can call
me a piece of shit, but don't make fun of
my job.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
But don't I dare say you are the best at
Lucha Libra.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
It's like, yeah, Ray, priority sir.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Yeah, you got this one backwards.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
You know, like, well, what was the joke that the
old one that I've said a million times people say
all the time, where they're like, you're your your sexist,
you're ugly, you're a racist, and you're a bad tipper.
And someone goes, hey, I'm not a bad tipper, right
of course, you know, it's like, yeah, you're picking the
wrong one. They're right, you're picking the wrong one.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
We'll go on from there to Becky Lynch jumping on
the announcer's desk and warbling into the mic.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, I don't know what was what was this?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
It just don't forget about me, That's what it was.
Don't don't forget me. Hi, guys, I'm still around.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah me me wait wait wait wait wait. The fucking
system of a dance song just not good. Not a
particularly good promo. At this point, she's just kind of
playing the hits, which aren't really hits. My hot husband
sports illustrated. I'm like, these things weren't over the first

(50:50):
ten times you said them, and we're still the hot husband.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
That was the only thing that she said that people
laughed at from before. And they laughs, they laughs, which
is like been like what four promos she's used that
in since it's like, all right, you're beating this to
death like your husband Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Right, it's it's at the it's a borat irritation. Yeah, already,
Like it's like very nice, you like got great Becky. Okay,
we know she is.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Better on the mic, Scott, You're right, she is better
on the mic than stuff, absolutely, but this made no sense.
She was just out there to talk some shit about Maxine.
It's like, wow, nobody cares about Maxine on that level, right,
Like she's the underdog and people want to see her succeed.
But you're not gonna have people going to bat for
Maxine over Becky Lynch. Not yet there.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Here's the problem is is that they continue to and
also the that referee is trying to fuck on me
like they're doing that. And by the way, it's like,
oh no, don't evoke the good name of Jessica Carr,
who we as an audience have such an emotional investment in, Yeah,
who you and we know what it's because we fucking

(52:02):
because we're forced to know who it is. I don't
think the general audience cares who Jessica fucking car is
right at all. She doesn't have the charisma to fucking
carry any sort of I don't know, whatever she does,
we know the direction this is going.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
I just don't think people are invested in Maxine Depre
that much. That's all. I'm not saying that this girl
won't eventually become something. And they've done the right thing,
Like you've even pointed out before, they've taken a long
time before they introduced her into the ring. They've done
a lot of homework. They've built up her character, she
has relationships, she has a character. They know who she is.

(52:37):
But I don't think it's at the level that you
want to see her in a championship match and win
against Becky like this would be very out of the blue.
I think if she does well against Becky and she
holds her own, then you start building up that story
and maybe they return back to it one day when
Maxine has got some wins, got some losses, learned some lessons,

(52:59):
and then underestimates her and fucking then Maxine de pre
pounces and wins and surprises everyone.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Like I don't know, but I don't imagine imagine Jade
Cargle having a belt right, Maxine dupre having a belt, Jesus,
It's like, what, okay, all right, we're getting a little
bit too much on our own farts at that point, right,
you know, I get it, Like I think Maxine could

(53:25):
eventually become something.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
The only thing that was yeah, the only thing that
was really interesting about this promo though, was when it
ended and she walked up the ramp and there was
fucking Osca and little Oscar standing on the fucking ramp
in her way, and Becky and Oscar because Kyrie doesn't
fucking matter. I don't even think Becky looked at Kyrie once.
While Kyrie is making faces and playing with her umbrella.

(53:49):
She didn't even fucking flinch and really look at her
at all. And She's just staring dead eyed with Oscar
and Oscar's matching eyes. And I'm like, yeah, I'd still
like to see these two fucks can smack the shit
out of each other a few times. I'm still okay
with that, because I know Oscar can deliver a great
fucking match, and Becky would be in a in a ring,

(54:11):
in a match with somebody that she knows she can
depend on and deliver those great matches that Becky's capable of. Like,
that's just what Oscar brings to the table. And I
know she's involved with the tag team stuff right now,
but yeah, you want to tease the Oscar versus Becky
thing down the road. I'm okay with that too, Joe.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Well, Oscar's just gonna have to be a big bead
for everybody because I don't know what they're doing, you know,
and Nikki Bella is getting a lot of television time.
Like I said, you got the two plastic face, Like,
I don't know you. I swore that they were doing
a lot better with their women's division, and now it
seems like they're kind of dropping off again. I don't know.

(54:49):
Maybe maybe they just don't know. Yeah, maybe they're just
lowering the boil. I mean, I get it. You had
to do something with Bird Girl because they just feel
like they invested too much in her. Bailey, they couldn't
just keep reheating family. Bailey.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Bailey's actually doing well. I'm actually finally on the bandwagon
with you about Bailey. Bailey in this role has started
to win me over. She was very savage in that
match with the Kabooki Warriors. I thought she was absolutely
the star of the match. Bailey carries herself so well.
Kyrie and Bird Girl belong off by themselves in the
kindergarten box because they just don't fucking match up. If

(55:28):
that match was just Oscar versus Bailey, it would have
been infinitely better, Joe infinitely better.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, well that's I mean, that's also let's also remind
ourselves that, you know, Kyrie's not that good. Ah and
and bird Girls just man, they're just fighting tooth and
nail to pull a personality out of that girl. And
I don't, I don't. She's such a she's so plain. Yeah,

(55:59):
she's just plain nobody.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Even in the ring she struggles. She was struggling to
pick Kyrie up by the ropes. I'm like, Jesus Christ,
was Kyrie way thirty pounds? Like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, well, this is also the problem where it's like
if you're five feet tall, even as a woman, like
you're wrestling in the ring, like it's like you're trying
to do all these moves and it's like, dude, you
don't even have the clearance, right, you don't have the
space to do this shit, Like you don't have the room.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
But I just want to build up this next generation
so fast is what it feels like. And the people
that should be running the women's division and giving these
girls their lumps and introducing them through storylines, through character work,
through great matches. It's almost like WWE wants to put
everybody on the same pedestal. Why am I supposed to
believe on any level that bird Girl should ever be

(56:51):
able to take out Osca? In what fucking world am
I supposed to believe that? But the way that WWE
presents these matches, oh, these are four equals, you know,
approved fighters. No, they're not not at all, Bailey. And
then it's a fucking drop off between bird Girl and Kyrie, you.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Know, correct, It's like somebody's sitting there me on like
your favorite foods are, you know, like like a nice
rip eye in a real fight.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I know this is a real fight, and I hate
doing this all the once in a while. But if
this was a fight and I was Oscar, why would
I ever tag in Kyrie?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Ever? Ever? Ever?

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Why would I tager in I wouldn't, Dude, if I
was getting my head stomped in by both of the girls,
I still wouldn't tag Kyrie and she is that unreliable.
She is not a good winner. She's just she's the
person that loses the match. And the same thing with
fucking Lyra, the same exact thing with Lyra. If I
was Bailey, why would I ever tag in Lyra?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Oh, because I'm crazy this week, I know, And it's
like I don't know, I just not I'm not super
invested in this. I think Bailey is doing good work.
Like I said, you know, I'm glad you're seeing it.
She's putting a little bit more roofed into her waits.
I think it looks. I think she looks good, I
mean in the ring, not just being a fucking weirdo. Like,

(58:14):
she's looking good. She's working good. She's trying desperately with
all of her might to pull a personality out of Lyra.
And that's all you can kind of ask of this.
And like I guess to some extent for what I'm
saying about, like, you know, Charlotte should be doing something,
and she should be, you know, having matches with people.

(58:34):
She can't do anything but bliss. But I mean, at
least Bailey is trying well.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Let her quick paycheck by running out and fucking making
the save. I mean, wow, that was just unnecessary. I
get it, it's gonna be a three way eventually at
some point, but my gosh, I could care less about
Charlotte coming out there with Bliss.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Oh it's the Canaan Daniel Bryant thing. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Bliss is just oh bad.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I'm just not a fan.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
You're right, she's she's a little emo girl aging the
fuck out.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
You know, if she's I can't look at I can't
watch people who are closer to my age than life
of the party right still act like their widow babies.
I'm waiting with my widow baby outfit. I'm acting like
am like a twenty year old girl going to a
Halloween party in college. I'm like, stop, stop, I get it.

(59:30):
Enjoy your life, live your life, like have all the
fucking fun you can. But there is a point where
you just look fucking dumb, dumb.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
They need more legends back. They need to hire some
of these other girls that have been around for a minute,
that have a name for themselves and put them in
the mix. A girl like Jordan Grace right now, and
once again, I know there's people that don't like because
you've mentioned her but she would clean the fuck up
in WWWE. Right now, you put her on wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Should she should? I mean, by the way, Jordan Grace
is what thirty now probably around at each she's got
to be in the vicinity of that. If Jordan Grace
was sitting there being like, go I'm a baby, I'm like,
fucking stop right, cut it out, cut it out. You know,
like when when AW for what twenty she's twenty nine,

(01:00:16):
so she yeah, she's thirty whatever. She's a grown up now,
Like she's doing grown ups, Like when AW first started
and they had Julia Hart who looked eleven, and she
was like, hey man, you know, Chi'll wait him now,
my little goths girl, that's my phase that I'm going to.
I'm like, yes, your kid, right, she's young, she's doing
the young fucking things. But if you're a thirty five

(01:00:38):
year old dressing like a cheerleader, and the joke isn't
you're a thirty five year old cheerleader, that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Wow. It's because they can't let go of the bray
Wyatt March.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I know, I know. It's it's all still with the
with the masks and the other ship, which, by the way,
I don't watch backdown of the Wyat six still existing,
They're still trying to act.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
She had a nice heartfelt try to bray the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
So yeah, boy, all right, yeah this was yeah, yeah,
this was a more feller. This was just filler shit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
We then we had the the segment where Dominic interrupted
Judgment Day and Phil and JD told him that he
would have to deal with the match himself because or
deal with Ray himself because they had the tag team titles.
Blah blah blah, and yeah that was that was that
in Roxanne.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
And Roxanne giving worldly advice to Dominic Mysterio who also
looks too I mean, I know, I know, I'm fucking
forty years old.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Now, well, you were saying last week it was going
to be Raquel, and maybe it still could be. But
Roxanne is still out there trying to prove her love
and I know Live is on the way back. She's
got to be on the way back, and that's going
to be a whole ship storm that happens. That's that's
also another reason why I think Dominic is going to
get ousted from the Judgment Day because it almost feels

(01:01:54):
like everybody's against him and when he finally trips up
and falls on, Roxanne Perez Live is going to catch him,
and I think that's going to be the ultimate. You
guys got to get the fuck out, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Right there is also Roxanne is another one I like,
another person that I like on the show, but less
talkie talkie. Right, that's not the spot for her because,
like I said, she's sitting down, she's giving advice. She
looks even more little, she looks even more young in
her voice is like this, what does she she's seventeen now, right, Yeah,

(01:02:30):
I think she's I think she's allowed to vote in
the upcoming primaries. I think she's maybe old enough. No,
she's like when she talks, she's like hi, I'm like,
you know, she just got this little cutie voice, and
it's like, yeah, she's a baby face. She's a fucking face, right,
and you hear and it's like she's trying to give advice.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
And I'm like, this is silly, just a level shit,
That's what it was. It's like, oh, look, the the
seventeen year old is giving the world advice. Oh well
let's listen up, everybody. They're seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Yeah, everyone, sit down, they've been around this sun. Oh my,
they've always been around the sunce eighteen old times. Everybody
pay attention. We're gonna learn a lot, Joe. Let me
tell you about what it's like out in the world.
Oh please, do please tell them you can't? Please?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah, which which still like the funny thing about that though,
is hey, if you want to be like, hey, this
is how shit is now, this is how young people
see it. Cool, that's great, But like, let me solve
all your problems. I'm you know, I haven't been ables
six months ago. I was asking if it was okay
for me to go to the bathroom here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Let me give you this time. Let me throw this
out here too. While you're mentioning this, Do you think
that and they've proven it before that judgment. Day as
a whole seems to be very aware of what of
everything that they do. Do you think they understand what
they were doing? Do you think that was part of
the joke? And some people took it seriously and some
people didn't, because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I mean, honest, you know what, if that was it,
that would be kind of funny because I could I'm
not that much older than her though that, But that's
what that's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Why it's even funnier. It's young people telling each other
what the world is really like. You know. But if
it was if it was Finn sitting down dominic Mysterio,
we wouldn't even be talking about this. It'd be some
I'm like, oh, okay, Finn seen some ship, right, we
get that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
So it would almost be funnier if it was her
talking to like her being like, stick with me, kid,
I'll show you the you know, that's that's a good joke.
But no, this is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
It was we go on to the World Tag Team
Championship between AJ Styles and Dragon Lee versus the judgment.
AJ Styles also another one of the names that CM
Punk gave a break to and said that, oh I
might give AJ Styles a shot at this belt one day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, this match was too long and we just saw it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Yeah, you know, and the last one was much better,
so yeah, Styles kind of my feel on it, Styles
and retain so yeah, not much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
It not like it was bad, not shitting on anybody
involved in the match, but we just saw it and
like I said, it was really fucking good, right, And
maybe we should have waited a little more than like
two weeks for a rematch. I don't know, I'll me
crazy see them Punk and Jay uso versus the Vision.
I was tapped out at this I didn't even watch it.
Like I said, I gave up. It was a mess.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Ended up in a double count out. Then there was
more fisticuffs. Logan Paul ran down to the ring jumped
in to save see Them Punk See Him. Punk and
Logan were a shoulder to shoulder against the Vision, and
Logan Paul turned around and fucking clubbed see Him Punk
with the knucks dropped him. He walked over to Paul Hayman.

(01:05:49):
Paul Hayman said, if this motherfucker touches me, kill him,
and Logan Paul handed over the knucks gave him the nod,
and that was kind of how we closed off the show.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
So, oh man, you know what's going to be the
toughest thing about Logan Paul Logan, Paul is going to
be so much bigger than all of these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
He's like, that's why I love him in this role,
because he's gonna be playing bucket boy. And meanwhile, he's
going to be the most hated guy in the group.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
I don't know if he is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
He's Still, they literally close the show with at least
a few thousand people chanting, fuck you Logan.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Well, I'm not I'm not saying he's gonna be the
most hated. I'm just saying, like to kind of make
him a bud boy when he's gonna be physically bigger
than all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
I mean for a little while. Yeah, I think he's
gonna get the Grayson Waller treatment. I think he's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, this is but Dared. The issue with Logan Paul
is the fact that the type of character that he
plays is perfect for a guy the size as them is.
He's almost too big and too strong looking and too

(01:07:09):
young looking to where it's like, yeah, we get it,
Bronson looks pretty intimidating. But Bronson's like five ten, right,
Wellgan Paul's four inches taller than him. Same thing with
State Cop. He's much bigger than Steak Cop. And yes,
Steak Cop has a good bill to him and he's
people make bark noises. But I'm like, he's bigger than Steadie.
Like the people are eventually like, oh, he's backing down

(01:07:32):
from the dough. I'm like, why, he's a whole fucking
head taller than him, and he's a boxer.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I think I'll give you that one. That's funny. He is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
He looks like a steak cop.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
He's way more fucking amps though, you know what I mean.
Like for for Breaker, as far as size goes, yeah,
you're right. I think physically they match up very well.
But I think what makes him a bigger guy is
because of the way that he does the click click wherre.
He does the fucking brock lessner little idiosyncrasies. You know,

(01:08:04):
It's just it's there's something to his character that makes
him larger than his actual size. Now, if that changes
in the future, like he gets too smaller, he gets
too big, then you can sit there and weigh it out.
But for what it is right now, Logan Paul comes
off as a smaller guy. He's an aerial guy, like
he's he doesn't carry himself like a guy that's actually

(01:08:28):
his size.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Does that make sense? Like he wrestles like a smaller
guy even though he's not. I just see bron Breaker
as being a guy who uses me, strength me me, crush,
me me break. It's like, yeah, all right, cool wolf Wolf.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
You know, well, there is this point in life where
I guess you know, people are now in this position
where it's like, don't believe your eyes and ears, believe
what we tell you. You know, yes, guy's good to
cut him in half man, Yeah, but that's not so sure.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
The smoke and mirrors of rustling though, too well, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Yeah, I don't know, I get it. It would be very,
very funny to make is seven hundred and fifty pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Oh is he.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, seven hundred and fifty pounds. You guys know how
big that is. That's no. I I'm interested in some
sort of way how this is going to play out.
I think there's a very real possibility that. And by
the way, I'm not like a Logan Paul stand or nothing.
I'm not a big giant fan of the guy. I

(01:09:41):
really don't know that much about him. I haven't followed him,
but I can tell you, having seen what I've seen,
there is a possibility that he could find himself getting
more over than stay up. I agree, I think it
could happen. To disagree at all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
I think he has a lot more natural charisma than
anybody else neck well, maybe not Paul Hayman.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
But right right, Yeah, And he's almost as good and
he's almost as good looking as Paul Hayman, you I mean,
if you say so. Yeah, he's got to keep dude,
He's got to just keep hitting the gym and maybe
he'll look as good as Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Logan Paul will absolutely be the one that gets booed
the hardest, absolutely get booed the hardest. However, I think
that that's the role that he needs to play. I
think him with this group, it's gonna be a good thing.
If Logan Paul replaces Seth. That's only a good thing
because I almost feel like, and if you really want

(01:10:31):
to play this angle where you know, in six months
time he can turn stuff like that, then have him
be the Batista. Have everybody else buy into what Seth says.
When Seth comes back eventually, and Logan Paul is just
rolling his fucking eyes like, oh God, more of this
shit again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I gotta admit that would be kind of funny if
he did just become a batista, if Logan Paul. But
you know what, what if it all clicked for Logan
Paul that he like Batista, that would be a huge
problem too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
He gets movies and shit, well maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Like he finally figures out, like I'll never forget that man,
Like just Batista finally became entertaining and then he's like,
all right, see yah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Yeah, he did that Hotel movie that got over and
then they put him in as a Guardian of the
Galaxy and that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
That was it. It's still the one of the things
that it was.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Wade Runner and then it was Dune. Yeah, that guy's
just racking up money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I know. But like when he was in the wheelchair,
you know, and he was yelling and he was like,
I hate all you people. I hate you all so much.
I'm like, dude, this is the most entertaining he's ever been.
And then they were like and he's gone, yea forever.
I'm like, fucking fuck you, dude. That's such a I
was a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Of him and Rick Flair tag Teaving because that was
just always the funniest shit to me because it's like, Wow,
these are two people that are not alike in any way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
These things is very much not like the other. Well,
I don't know, man, it's we'll have to see what
goes on with that whole group. I'm not super sold
on it. Like I said, I think that I think
State cop it's new.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
It's so fucking new, it's not even it's not even
official yet, you know what I mean, Like, we don't
know where this is gonna go. I mean, that's what
you kind of smell is cooking, but we don't fucking know.
It's so brand new.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Well, let me ask you this. Can you continue to
have this same fucking main event every week on Raw
though some variety of the Bronze and I guess Logan
Paul could help that because it would be a little different,
but it's really making it. I'm interested, honestly, see them
punk and Logan Paul. I'm fine with that. That's more interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Yeah, And I mean that's clearly where they're going. See
them punk and Logan Paul is going to be the match.
I am totally fine with that. I am absolutely fine
with that. I think the vision getting involved is see
them punk shit again. Feels quid pro quo, and I
agree they need some something else, but yeah, no, Logan
Paul fine, start mixing up these blue brand people and

(01:13:07):
bringing them over to the Red.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I'm honestly, I'm honestly starting to think just when I
saw Bogan Paul, it kind of came back to me
his relationship with Trump and the shit that's coming up
with Sena's last match. He's gonna get involved in the
main event.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
We didn't even talk about that that it's been officially
announced that it's what a sixteen man tournament for John
Cena's love and affection.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Yeah, right, for his less smoochies and kisses and hugs. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
I saw the the AW fans making their posts. Matter
of fact, Ringside made their posts that quote, WWE is
purposely teasing all of AW stars and John Cena's last
time is now tournament, So what none of them are
AW stars right right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Could you imagine, Oh my god, the delusion. Could you
imagine the look on that fucking crowd's face in Boston
next week if they were like, and advancing in the
tournament is Hangman page, They'd be like, who the fuck
is that? You don't know where that is? Guess who's
going into the next round of the tournament, Anthony Bowens,

(01:14:19):
What the fuck fucking know these people are? They don't
know who they are. The delusion of the fucking AW
fans online. I know that that picture came out and
they were like, oh look it's Jade and Ricky Starks
and all of them. Look, they were all old AW people,
which was done purposely to fuck with them. I know that.
Oh I know, I don't, but like, just looking at it,

(01:14:40):
I'm like, Okay, let's let's see if we can have
this make sense. All right. Punk was a ww guy
who probably should have been there all the way through
the Ricky Starks thing. I haven't been watching enough of
what he's doing in n XT, but to me, that
feels like a favorite of Punk. Let's be real, Jade Cargile,
it's all looks follow this just look, just look, she's

(01:15:03):
gonna be in the tournament against John Cena. Oh no,
I know, but like that idea, they're gonna chease all
these AW people. No, who cares. No one's no one's
sitting around on baited breath thinking, oh what a swerve.
Strickland shows up. Nobody gives a fuck about these people.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
This is where it comes, right, Dave, Dave and Brian,
we're talking about it. That the Sena's video announcement of
last weekend show. They threw out a comments adjusting that
participants might not all be WWE exclusive talent. That opened
the floodgates of speculation, with fans connecting the dots to
AW names like Adam Copeland and Chris Jericho, both of

(01:15:46):
whom share deep rooted rivalries with Sina. According to Wrestling Observer,
they confirm that WWE is purposely teasing AW stars to
get people talking. According to Dave, WWE has no real
expect of landing those appearances, especially since Copeland and Jericho
are still locked with AW contracts, but the mere suggestion

(01:16:07):
is enough to ignite nostalgia among longtime fans and create
a social media storm in the process. Look here, you
know who did that first, Eric Bischoff, when he challenged
Vince McMahon to a fight in fucking w CW.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Wait a second, are they promoting wrestling? I like promoters?

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
That's crazy, Joe, They don't, that's bananas.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, who would do something like that? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
I mean, why not do the extra thing? Have triple
h go out there and go even with a bum ticker.
I will kick this ship out of Tony Khan in
the middle of this ring.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Just fucking do it. Just fucking do it, because that
would be the most attention Tony Kahan's ever gotten in
his life, Right, that's it, like it's it the people, Yeah,
shucking up tow or whatever the fuck dude, we're talking
about it. We're comparing fucking apples to fucking nuclear bombs

(01:17:02):
at this point. It's not even the same shit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Just have in place that new aw book in the
middle of the ring and just have random people come
out there and just unzip and piss on it right
there live on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
But let me let me just take I guess here, right,
just far fetched shit. You know Natty's books coming out?
Who sells more units in the first week?

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Oh and Naddy already has I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Probably, I mean it is and people would probably gasp
and no.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Because you can put every single aw star on the
roster in a book against one WWE female star, female superstar,
and she will outdraw that entire fucking roster. There's no
way in hell that the WWE machine and Naddy aren't
going to make bank in comparison to that aw book,

(01:17:51):
No fucking way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
And dare I even say, in the year twenty twenty five,
if you have a book that people are walking through,
one of those bookstore things you might have heard of
that still exists sparingly and they're saying, hmm, I'm just
window shopping right now. And one is a thing that
says like what the history of aw or whatever the

(01:18:13):
fuck on the cover. I'm sure it's probably a ripoff
of a W CW or eight.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
You know, they never do that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I'm guessing. I haven't seen the cover. I'm just gonna guess.
And the other one is a blonde woman wrestler with
big s titties. Which one do you think is gonna
catch people's eyes?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
The one with the Young Bucks and Kenny Omegan on
the cover?

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
No, yeah, I'm sorry, Oh for sure. Yeah, the Young
which the Young Bucks book that you sent me. I
still look at it sometimes, and I go, if people
looked and looked in my window, they would think I
had gay porn on my nownderstand, if I was reading this,
they think I was reading gay fans.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
They gotta put like a little sticker on the side
that says be kind, rewind, you know, Like I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Just I put a sticker on it. This is just
not gay porn, just straight. And I just I just said, well,
actually it's a book about two brothers. Well that's even worse.
It's about two brothers and they hold hands and jump
around together.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
I did read that book for Patreon, Richard, I did
read the Young Bucks book.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
We did. Wait, okay, someone, I did the entire.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
YouTube video with that thing and everything from back of
the Yeah, I didn't read the whole fucking book. I mean,
is that what you wanted me to do is read
the whole fucking book.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Oh my god, No, this is Oh my god, that's
the cover of this book. You got John Moxley some
three years ago when he had hair, Kenny Omega from
five years ago, when he didn't look like a fucking
dying Maryannette Poppet, Britt Baker who hasn't been seen in
almost a year. Like Britt Baker, who I'm pretty sure

(01:19:49):
that the police happened all fucking point bow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
What is that with her hand? It looks like she
has a bloody hand.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
What does she I know it's supposed to be a glove,
but it quite literally looks like a fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Curse mo Pa, like she just got done fisting somebody
with a lot of hemorrhoids, a lot of help enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
They are feasting. It is so painful that Chris Jericho
has to drink vodka. But they enjoy it and then
they lick it like the ice cream, and then they
eat leg the the young Bucks they are brothers, let's say,

(01:20:28):
but they are bought a very very gay you know who.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
They don't have on the cover of this book. Mm
hmm Cody Rhoades.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Hmmm, weird. What's her name? Mina? Is that Mina Sharkkwa. No, No,
Mina Sharkkawa is the one that's look check with their
headcare or whatever. Right, they should have had ReHO on
it then, right, yeah, they should. Yeah, then you leave
the ReHO Boat book on your nightstand.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
I'm really surprised it's not a different type of I'm
really surprised there's no osprey on there. Very surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Oh well, I mean, you gotta put the fucking Young
Bucks on it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
They did kind of shoehorn Darby Allen at the top
left there though, dear Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Darby Allen is gonna fly onto britt Baker's shipp fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Looks like looks like he's gonna in the back of
the head.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
No, I think he's trying to fly onto her fingers
with his little you know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
They did kind of fuck up though, If if you
were smart you'd have had fucking sting on there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
You'd sink, I mean, if you wanna, Yeah, because now
look at you look at this, and then you're putting
Natty's book cover next to it. Oh yeah, and you go,
this looks like just a bunch of people in discomfort.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
And I feel like an asshole now for making fun
of Pat earlier after seeing Natty's cover. I'm just saying, right, saying.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
If you look at their just quick eye, it's like
you got constipated. Moxley, Yeah, yelling Kenny Omega, he has
the two fucking turds. It's angry Chris Jericho, Like, I'm
not sure what the exception of Kenny Omega not wearing
a shirt that this you would immediately assume this was wrestling.

(01:22:15):
I guess maybe the belt, I don't know, but yeah,
who gives a fuck that fucking irrelevant shitty company cares irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Yeah, but anyways, much love to everybody listening to the
show live. Much love to the people jumping on the Patreon,
Patreon dot com forward slash Wrestling Soup and then yeah,
we'll see you guys on Thursday.

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