WHOOP WOOO or JOE REVIEWS BLOOD N GUTS (Wrestling Soup 11.13.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Wrestling soup is intended for a mature audience.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
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Speaker 4 (01:02):
Because I was like, you know what, I'll talk about
some of the fucking blood and guts show because I
didn't know if you watched.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
No, I really didn't. I've kind of been all over
the place today. It's been a weird day, but.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, you've had a lot of shit going on. So
it's like, I'll just talk about the fucking aw deal.
But no, you were right, dude, So I haven't watched it,
like I was just saying, in a long time, and
I watched the women's match and the title deal, like
the match that Hangman Page had with old fucking Powerhouse Hobbs, which,

(01:37):
by the way, Powerhouse Hobs still can't throw a punch,
so that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, why would he learn in aw.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, there's no need you had to. You had to
learn how to fucking take back drops off the tables
and break your fucking tailbon it's way more important.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
And who would teach them, Tenny Omega.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe he could learn to punch. Well, no,
that was it. There was so few things on this
show that were out of the usual for what I've
seen ae W do over the past half dozen years.
But I did get a good laugh out of them
having a segment with Ricky the Dragon Steamboat and oh,
Ricky threw a punch, and I go, Jesus Christ, he's

(02:18):
seventy three years old and his punches look better than
Jay Whoso's. So that's a little worrying at this point
where old old man Ricky like, I'm like, God, damn it,
I love Ricky Steinboat. But like he turned around, he
threw like one of his like little not even a punch,
i should say, but it was like the thrust thing, which,

(02:38):
by the way, that's what Jay does as well. And
I'm like, yeah, Ricky, Ricky saying at seventy three, of
course it's a it's a fucking sad test of bit
to what the hell they got going on. But yeah, man,
like the women, the women in this for the most part,
it was a mixed bag, you know, like there's it
was like fifty to fifty as far as I would

(03:02):
take half of them and put them in annext tomorrow
and go all right, you can do something with them, right,
but the other ones, Yeah, flaggery flush right down the
fucking turlet. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well we're keeping sky Blue though, right, Can we keep
sky Blue? Or should I call her? Should I call
her dirt red? Because dear lord. Yeah, those screencaps are wonderful. Yes,
how nice.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
I've heard a volunteer to gig it in the first
minute and a half of the show.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, she just didn't want to be another pretty face,
you know sometimes.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, well she didn't have that problem with this show.
Uh no, I mean no, she's pretty.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm just gorgeous. Sky Blue is I don't know, it's
just avavoom kind of girl that's growing up.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Well, it's funny because, like I said, I watched the show,
so I'm like, you know what, let me see if
I can do a little bit catch it up. So
well it's going on. I'm looking at the social media
of like what's the girl? Which this girl's name is
like the worst thing I've ever heard of my life.
Sekla yeah, Beckla, Yeahkla. I'm like that sounds like a
fucking illness. Why why would you call yourself that?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I thought it was like a Polish d M group
or something. You know, it's like, want to listen to
the thecla.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Honestly, god, that sounds like a like a what's it
called when people say there's like a cursed animal that
lives in the woods.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yes, yes, like a there's a troop of cora. But
there's a theclaw. Yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, a cryptid. There we go, that's a cryptid. Don't
don't let your daughters go out and play in the woods.
The thekla will take them under their wings and make
them dress like Avril Levine. It'll be a problem.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Or worse yet, they turn into Lindsay Lohan and not
the good years.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, well now, but you know what, though,
Lindsay Lohan got that good facelift. She looks like a
normal human again. I don't know how it happened, but whoever,
whoever did that new surgery to her face, whatever she paid,
she got her money's worth.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I heard was just stopped drinking and doing drugs. Joe,
that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Oh the oh the old Gucci mean trick, that's what
it was.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Just gotta get a giant ice cream calling on the
side of her head, like.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Dude, Well, no, that was I remember when he got
out of jail and people were like, yeah, he's a clone.
I'm like, well, no, he also just stopped drinking heroin
and eating nothing but lemon pepper wings and uh, constantly
being drunk. That might have helped.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Like, nah, Gucci mean one of the few people that
goes to prison for the better healthcare?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yes, of course, yeah, right, he goes to prison and like,
what are you going to do when he's in here,
He's like, I gotta get my shit.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, I want to clean up, work out. What are
you guys talking about?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
You see the guys look over at him, like, you know,
aside from all the sexual assaults and hepatitis, this is
a pretty good.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
This is a good gym. It's a grass.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I like the idea that you're like, well, i'll tell
you this much. The contract's a little more iron clad
than a Planet Fitness.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
But but they don't call you as much, you know,
so hey.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, let's get it. The lunk alarm is usually just
when someone gets stabbed with a sharpened toothbrush. That's the
usual lunk alarm.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
The showers are a little less co ed, but hey,
you know it's.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, it's uh, oh my god. But no, like all
the people that were on the show, at least in
the girls match, I'm sitting there, I'm going once again,
free Willow. Get her off this goddamn show. This poor thing.
She'd be making fucking she would be making a killing
and doing great on WWE television.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I think, I really do. I'm glad that you reiterated
that from what we were talking about on Wednesday, but yeah,
I stand behind that sentiment wholeheartedly. I think Willow is
one of those talents that kind of, you know, came
up through the independence snuck her way into well. Obviously
she was in the NWA for a hot minute and
then she came over to aaw But it was funny

(07:16):
because even the way that they introduced her, you know,
having her bow down before Mercedes Monet, she always kind
of felt like a B plus player, like she was
never really given the benefit of a highlight. And she's
kind of been I don't want to say meandering, but
she's been walking this line where it's like, look at
all this talent this girl has. Look at the charisma,

(07:37):
she has, the great attitude. Never mind the fact that
she's talented in the ring, Why are they ignoring her?
She's just checking a box in aaw And sometimes I
wonder because somebody in aw right, Joe, you have to
at least give this company the benefit of this. Somebody
in the company has a good eye for talent, whatever

(08:00):
it is, because half the talent, like you were saying
before the show even started, really half the talent are
really good, Like they have potential, you can see a
future with them, and the other half of the talent
at least look good, you know what I mean, like
they at least serve a purpose. So somebody in that company.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Well you mean for the women, the guys look awful
most well.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
I mean we can't Sammy Joe.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
It's just yeah, yeah, no, they all can't look like
Wheeler Judah who at this point, I'm like, he quite
literally looks like a homeless guy. Yeah, he looks He
looks like a homeless guy that plays a lot of
like pickup basketball. You're like, look, he's in shape, right,
He's still in shape. But it's like, yeah, he looks
fucking god awful.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
He's a fifth string for the Boston Patriots, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's just yeah, either that or he's sniffing glue and
playing playing pick up once again, pick up basketball in Philly,
or something like.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Oh, that's a wonderful Jeff, thank you there, Drew. Drew
actually made us a wrestling soup log. I'm gonna put
on the episode today. That's a lot of fun to
look at. Joe looks really happy too. I'm just just
wanted to point that out.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Oh I said that to him too. I go, God,
can I look more fucking miserable?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah? Did you switch the two characters? Dear lord?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I swear I'm not that grumpy. It's just the sarcasm.
It is meant for fun. It's like, right, I'm truly
upset about Eddie. I'm not truly upset about AW as
a collective product. I'm just sad, oh for some of
these people.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
But like I was saying, I really do think that
the company does have a good talent coordinator or whoever's
going out there doing the scouting for AW, because they
do happen to find, especially with the women, specifically with
the women, they happen to find a lot of women
that are talented, or at least are diamonds in the
rough that need some chiseling. That needs some proper training,
et cetera, et cetera. Now cargl right is the one

(10:02):
that everybody points to that, aw, this is the best
that they have to offer. And that was argumentative because
I think even when Jade cargle Verse came into WWE,
we were not thrilled. We thought that there was more
to her that if she was provided a talent base,
if she was provided proper training and trainers, that she

(10:24):
could excel and become this great, big powerhouse for WWE.
But now it's been how long has she been in WWE?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I was gonna say, and now six years later, it's
actually just nah, nah, she just doesn't she ain't got
the she ain't got the sign.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Harley Cameron, thank you, swollen swollen mustache. Yeah, Harley Cameron's
another woman in aew that what would do amazing, especially
with her ability to talk and be charismatic. I almost
think that the women's biggest flaw right now is that
there's only a handful of them that are entertaining to
listen too, to listen to what they say as far

(11:02):
as building the character stuff up. And yeah, no, but
I just wanted to reiterate with you and I was
glad that you brought up Willow again. But yeah, no,
she's absolutely a powerhouse waiting to happen in WWE.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
But by the way, during the match, one of the
funny things was they mentioned on commentary, They're like, Harley
Cameron's had less than fifty matches. I'm like, that's not good.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh, you're television, that's fine. Give her less matches so
that when she comes to WWE there's no bad habits
to break, I know.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
But it's like, amazing. It's amazing to think she's been
on television for like three years, I feel like, if
not more, and they think it's a compliment to or
some sort of like endorsement to be like, yeah, she's
barely ever wrestled.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
But you know how they're thinking of it, Joe, They're good.
They're probably thinking of it. Hey, look, we've only had
this girl out here for fifteen times, and people that
don't even like her company talk about her.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
You know, like, yeah, it's got nothing to do with
the personality. And of course just having giant edties and
being good looking, that's got nothing to do with it. No,
it's aw, it's all them. It's got nothing to do
with her the aesthetic of course, no nothing else, but like, yeah,
she's just like I'm watching her in the match and

(12:25):
I'm going, yeah, I wish this girl got some real
training like that. That's also rough to see, but yeah, Willow.
Willow was very, very good in this sky Blue. I
think you could do something with I think you could
take sky Blue and actually give her something to do
on television of value. From WWE's perspective, Julia Hart looks

(12:48):
try as she might. She looks eleven and a half
years old. I mean, she just she just looks like
a She just looks like a little kid, and not
in like the Rijo way where I'm like, yeah, Rio
just looks like an infant and it's uncomfortable, But like
she just looks so fucking young that she's like, I'm

(13:10):
as scared. I'm a guth princess. I'm going to I'm
like what, no, No, you're not like you got school
in the morning.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Julia Harden needs to go to some Chris Jericho Key
parties to age that up real quick, you know.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Justice, She's got to so what, she's got to start
doing all the She's got to start drinking Heroin put
some years on it made.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Of course, you know Julia only there was an easy
W or should I say a j c W that
would take a nice young, new bile thing and age
him up real fast in the wrestling business.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
You know, like, listen, you are taking way too good
care of yourself. You look.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
The fucking up what you on the Sandman diet?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
And yeah, well honest to God, Like at this point,
I'm thinking to myself, like when they go and do
the shows in Vegas, does she get stocked when she
walks through the casino? But they're like, yeah, you're not
allowed to be on a casino, right right, because she
looks on she looks legitimately under twenty one. I'd be like, yeah,

(14:17):
you're not supposed to be in here. She'd be like,
I'm twenty four, No, you're not right, Shut up. She
has a little super gen nuggets. Could you imagine if
she looks like that's still at forty and she still
looks like she's in her early twenties. Well some people,
some people get that, and you know what, that's that's
great for daily life. But if you're supposed to be

(14:39):
a scary yeah right, yeah, there was some picture somebody
I don't know if they posted in here, but it
was like once again looking at the social media where
it's like the secular girl looks like she's you know,
she's a brun asked woman. She's got some of the
goth shit going on, and sky blue sky blue after

(15:00):
dropping the fucking backwards hat and shit. I mean it
doesn't hurt that she already has like dark hair and
dark you can drop whatever she wants. Yeah, sorry, rapid
like it's hot. Uh. And it's like, okay, these two
I can buy it. And then over on like the
corner of it, you see Julia Hart and she's like

(15:20):
once again dressed like Avril Levigne and I'm like, it
looks like the little sister snacking into the picture. It's
like it's rough. You're fucking rough.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Bypassing a couple of other people that were involved, can
you tell me your thoughts about Mina Shirakawa.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Uh, I mean I think you could honestly like being
being fair, yes, being fair to like what's going on
in WWE right now. I would fucking drag and drop
Kyrie Zane out. I'd be like, yeah, Kyrie, you go
to AW and you your little fucking pirate elbow bullshit
Mina Shirakawa like she First of all, she also a

(16:01):
fucking grown up, so you put her next to Oscar
and it's like, all right, there's another fucking grown ass
woman next to her, so this kind of makes sense, right,
And also she has a personality and she's Kyrie.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Is what. She's thirty seven years old, isn't isn't car.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Kyrie? You wouldn't believe this Kyrie saying is fifty.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Three's she was wrestling Aja Kong on the Independence, Yes
it was. She was trained by the Jumping Bomb Angels
back in eighty of Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah. But by the way, I would love for somebody
to hear this and be like, this is sexiest conversation.
I'd be like, the majority of it is these women
look too good to be scary, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Well, they look like TV. Well, I don't know, but
that's that's the other part of it too. It's I
kind of agree with you. Maybe maybe it does turn
out that somebody's gonna get offended and say this is sexist,
But these women look like they're miles ahead of the
production around them. They look like women you would be
on television, you'd see in movies, like some of them

(17:09):
are drop dead gorgeous. That's what I was trying to
hint at when I was saying, whoever the talent coordinator
is over an AW gets it, understands it, and then
being able to find somebody that can not only look amazing,
but perhaps can talk, perhaps can wrestle a match without
botching every two seconds. But you have these women has

(17:30):
that look so much better than a lot of like
you pointed out before their male counterparts, they look better
than the show, like, they look like they belong in WWE,
Like they're insurgents from WWE to go to AAW and
just kind of help them out because you don't expect
them to be actual talents drawn into AW because it

(17:51):
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, what's funny too, is like this, this is the
perspective that we have on the women's man. And then
I'm watching the entrances on the guys one and it's
like an outcomes wheeler you and I'm like, homeless, homeless
Asian guy? Is that what he's supposed to be? And
then it's like and now here comes Daniel Garcia and

(18:15):
I'm like, oh, boys, regular, he's still getting fucking pushed
on this television show. It's like, yeah, no, wonder, It's like,
it's very easy to look at this and go, all right,
I could take old Secla. I don't know what i'd
need to get for shots or something for her, but
i'd get that claw until you know, I could put
her on TV. You could take Mina Sheer Kauwa, you
could take Willow Nightingale, you could take fucking sky Blue,

(18:39):
and all of them would be fine. But for the guys,
oh my fucking god, what a short list that is.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I mean, come on, obviously, at the top of the list,
it's gonna be guys like Kyle O'Reilly and John Moxley, right.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Oh no, And I like and I've always liked Kyle O'Reilly.
I always thought he just looks like he just looked
like a dude that worked at AutoZone. So I never
took him seriously as far as like being an intimidating
guy or a tough guy. But like he's he seems
like a very nice guy and he's a good enough

(19:12):
in ring performer, so I accept it. But now I'm like, God, really,
you can't do shit with this, dude, it's done. It's
fucking done. Bobby Fish is like fifty five years old
hosting videos on the Internet, and I'm going, oh my god,
he looks like he's like I mean, I'm not young anymore,

(19:33):
but I see Bobby Fish and I go, oh my god, babe,
I need to start Look, maybe I need to really
start saving for retirement because I've got to be fucking
old if he looks like that. So this is scary.
But no, there's a lot of dudes on that show
that are fucking cocka doodoo. I mean, I think it's

(19:54):
pretty much done for old fucking powerhouse hobs. He could
call it.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I thought you're gonna say it's done for Roderick Strong,
but he looks like he has a whole career a
lot of them.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, Roderick Strong. I mean, god, dude, Rocker Strong. I
thought Roderick Strong fucking sucks for twenty years. Man, I
don't I got nothing. I've had nothing positive to say
about Roderick Strong.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
He was an r OH Pure champion, wasn't he, Joe.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, for sure, he was an r OH Pure champion.
That's what I would say, all right, So I don't
which basically meant, hey, here's a belt for the guys
that are boring but have fun, you know, grapple fuck
matches for people that like that thing. But no, dude,
A lot, a lot of the ship with the girls. Uh.

(20:49):
Sasha of course was in this thing which she landed
absolutely fucking nothing to I know you like Chris Statlander,
but I do.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
That's fucking I think my whole thing with her has
always been the same. Note. My whole thing is is
she's a glass cannon. When she shows up to put
on a great match, she's absolutely capable of it. I
would not be surprised if her time in aaw has
kind of made her lean it back, not put in
as much effort. If you look at Chris Stantlander just

(21:21):
from a couple of years ago, it's a different person
in time, I should say, a couple injuries ago, it's
a completely different christ stat Lander. I mean that could
be a two you know, it could be the multiple injuries.
And maybe that's the reason why she's not giving everybody
her best anymore. But I still have hope for I
for whatever reason. And I know you don't like Meghan
Bayane either, but Meghan Bain has a presence, and we

(21:44):
talked about that before too, that you feel like one
of the biggest problems that Meghan Bain has is her attitude.
And I can't really speak on that. I don't know
anything about what really happens with her backstage obviously, other
than the big trip up crap that happened in a
while back with what was it thunder Rosa or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Oh yeah, well that whole thing. I mean that was
enough for me to not take her as seriously, right,
And also I just look at her and I just go, oh, so,
you're like ten percent better Jade Cargol, Right, that's really
all she is.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
And I agree with the Chad Street Fighter La Premira
says Bosilla is better than bane An Chris. I absolutely agree.
Bosilla is younger, she's hungrier, she's in Japan and she's
just learning right now, and she's just such a well
I know she's doing stuff here in the States too,
but regardless, I know she did something for GCW not
that long ago. But yeah, no, that's that's a woman

(22:37):
that's going to end up in NXT and become the
next killer for the women's division.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
So well, dude likes even looking at this picture that
people post it, it's like Baane, I'm like, yeah, whatever,
I just don't right, you know, then there's Avril Levine
in the back coop. I guess the I guess the
retort people could have about Julia Hard is h old
Live More, you know, being like, oh yeah, well what

(23:05):
about Live Morgan. I'd be like, Okay, well then she's
got what five six more years to get it together.
I guess.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean put her through whatever Ringer Live Morgan went through.
I mean, if that's what it takes, right, if there's
the secret sauce in the training of Live Morgan, whatever
happened to her, start giving it to everybody else, starts
sprinkling that shit around. Because Live is night and Day scenario.
Matter of fact, that she surpassed any of my personal
expectations for her, because you know, back when she was

(23:34):
on her Live Revenge Tour whatever the fuck it was called,
you know, it was boring, it was boring, it was
played out, she wasn't believable as a psycho girl and
all this and that, and when she came back she
was a completely different person. The judgment Day kicked off
her relationship with Dominic was interesting even the lead up
to it. She developed character aesthetics, like there was a

(23:57):
lot of overhead that we had never seen this presents before.
So it was either this girl was always talented and
she never had the ability to pull it out of her,
or nobody was able to pull it out of her,
and now with these angles that they brought up with
Dominic and the judgment day, they were able to do that.
Or she got training or trained or possibly a mixture

(24:17):
of both, where they were able to get her to
a moat and learn in the ring and fix things
that you know, coincidentally at the time she was doing
poorly at So if that's what it is, if WWE
has the secret ingredient, if they have the big Mac sauce,
you know, start putting that all over Sky Blue, Start
putting that all over your Julia Hart, Start putting it
all over some of these other talented girls in aw

(24:40):
and get them to jump shit.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Or you know what happens sometimes, dude, And you know,
not to undersell this or to make this like oh
artist or nothing like that, but sometimes she just clicks
for people and it takes them longer and they do
I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Though, you don't just pick up one morning and go, hey,
I'm better now.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Like yes, well, I mean whatever it might be their
way of accessing or you know, getting to that part
of themselves, their personality, their comfort level, whatever it might be. Right,
sometimes it just happens. I mean, like, for sure, Andy,
you know that plays. Yeah, I always.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
It's like a lot of hard work and effort that
really thinks about change.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
You know. Well there's some people that can work really
hard and put a lot of effort into something and
still fucking stick. Well that's also a thing, Like it's
it's nice to think that, you know, everything happens based
just off merit, you know, like the old we all
like to think like well, like and then Rudy got

(25:46):
to play and the ass play the game for Notre Dame, right,
like we all love that fucking idea. I mean, although
you want to be like boil Boy has even that
whole concept died The Rock made a movie about, Look,
I'm an athlete overcoming adversity. It made eleven dollars. That
Sydney Sweeney movie came out. It's like, look, I'm an

(26:07):
athlete overcoming adversity. I think that made fifteen dollars.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
I was actually, yeah, I was actually watching that. A
total side note, I was watching that Red Leather Media
about October, and apparently every fucking movie in October failed,
like every single every.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
One of them just sang, which I hate to laugh
at it, which like, but that's it. It's like I think,
to some extent that kind of film, the idea of
being like just to like the Rocky belbo A story,
I don't think people are buying into that shit anymore.
I feel like that's like a cultural Americana kind of

(26:42):
boomer dream, you know, like where even as like you
and I would be like, yeah, Forrest Gump was a
great film. Like I wonder if like even kids, your
kid's age would sit down and watch Forrest Gump and
be like this shit's boring. They might not even be
a into it, like they were like, yeah, it's kind
of fucking dumb. I don't I don't get this, Like

(27:04):
so this special needs guy does all this ship. He's like,
yeah he does all this. Isn't this beautiful? They're like yeah,
but everyone's kind of like making fun of him, and
I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Well, the whole film.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Is you don't get it and.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
At that point it's like you have to try and
explain it to them, like you realize the whole film
is a parody, right, Like he wasn't the first person
in the world to say, have a nice day, all right,
it's just yeah, he wiped his face in the rag
like like the Jesus cloth and then came up with
that's not real, guys, it's not real. It wasn't a documentary.
It was a silly movie about a special needs guy

(27:39):
that overcame adversity. You know, it's yeah, right?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Or is or is? Uh? Got a lot of people
that in the wrestling world.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, how many people do you think watched Forrest Gump
and thought it was a real person Forrest Gump.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Was nowadays, I wouldn't be shocked there were people that
actually believe that. Speaking of by the way, I'm not
saying this like people are too smart or too cool
for this shit. I think there's also just an element
of people are so fucking dumb, right, Like they would
wash it and they'd be like, yeah, so who's this

(28:16):
fucking Elvis guy? Who's this guy? Why are I supposed
to care about that? It's like, oh, they're like, who
are all these presidents, I don't know the fuck they are.
I don't care about these people. Like I could legitimately
see that being a critique or a criticism of it
by younger people now, but yeah, I don't know, man. Like,

(28:37):
Like I said, a lot of the shit that's going
on on television and with the people that are the
women's wrestlers that are in aw at least you could
drag and drop them onto WWETV. But uh not the men.
Definitely definitely not. These dudes. Most of them fucking stink.
They've regressed, if anything, or the completely stagnated in a

(29:01):
way that where I'm watching them and I'm looking at him,
I'm going, what a fucking what a waste? What a
sad state of anything? Right? My god? Hangman, page the
fucking hang yeah, dude, you gotta see. There was also
like actually don't have to see, but somebody could probably
post a screenshot of it. There's like a moment where

(29:24):
Don Callous walks up to the Young Bucks is like,
are you going to join by Don Callous family, which
I I'm I guess there like seventy people in that
and one of the Young Bucks has like clearly horrible
fucking allergies or something, and his whole nose is bright red.

(29:45):
Oh it looks like, Wow, it's not like alcohol.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Oh No, I wasn't thinking alcohol at all. I was
just I mean that that would be weird. Who has
an allergy to alcohol? I mean specifically for the nose.
That's I hope he gets better, Joe, I hope he
gets better.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, those nose beers we were talking about. Yeah, yeah,
I honestly, God, I wish they did drugs like that.
I might have made them cooler at some point. Uh No,
look what I don't know if you can close in
on it, Yeah, I'm like, they look horrib they look horrible.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's the gimmick, right, That's what they've been doing for
a while now, is that they don't even get entrance
music anymore. We're just losers, guys. We're not the young
bucks anymore. Yeah, that's whatever.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
I only watched it because I was like, I'll watch
some of these stupid, fucking violent matches and I want
to touch base with some of these people and see
if any of them gotten better, any of them improved.
And like I said, the only people seeming they have it,
the people with tits and I'm not talking about uh
old fucking Eddie Kingston or nothing, but yeah, not a

(30:57):
needless needless to say. I enjoyed it a little bit
more more than Saturday Night made event, but that's only
because it was funny in a bad way instead of
just bad and boring. I think that's the best review
I could give event. At the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I mean, there is always j c W every week. Now, Joe,
we can look forward to that becoming the number two
show in Rustling now that Vince Russo has the book.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Could you imagine if we just started doing that, like
we're like, yeah, so RAW really sucks, We're gonna start
reviewing the Juggalo Championship show every week. Hey, John Seene retired.
So anyways, there was bad Man Pondo.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
There was a hilarious segment, and by hilarious I mean
in the very Kaiju kind of like laugh at way
of Vince Russo talking with one of the female stars there,
and you could tell there was no script. They just
started bitching at each other and she was kind of
like doing the whole everything is unfair kind of deal,

(32:04):
and Vince Russo is kind of like reflecting that in
his own way like this, guys, you're a woman, And
I'm like, oh, this is great. This is the Vince
Russo that wrestling has missed for so long. And I'm like,
I I'm sorry, I'm only paraphrasing off of memory. It
was already last week, because it was last week's episode
that I saw some of it coming out on Thursday.

(32:25):
But I don't know, man, I'm telling you, if Vince
Russo continues to make sure that he's on the promotion,
not just writing for it, but intentionally internalizing his creative
juices inside the program and being on screen, I might
have to continue to watch because I cannot wait for
Vince Russo to make his triumphant return in ring wearing

(32:49):
hockey gear, to maybe go against one of the Juggalos
who knows.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Well, we'll have to see. I mean, like I said,
Ricky's the dragon steam of Vince Russo, you know, kind
of the same in ring performance. I was laughing, what
was it was?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
It was it rings who somebody posted was an nod
Q or maybe it was Yeah, it might even Ringside
or something like that. They're like, why why wasn't Rick
Flair at aw Blood and Guts?

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Oh my god, and.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm like, is this really some clickbait article with why
wasn't Rick Flair? You know why he wasn't there? They
didn't want to pay him.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
That's it, right, right, they didn't want to pay him.
And at this point, I don't know if you've seen
more recent pictures of him, believe.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
The last ones I saw were, oh god, it was
like about a year ago now, after the bar incident.
After the bar remember when he ran up the twenty
four hundred dollars tab or whatever it was and he thought,
what do you mean this isn't free?

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Like oh, or is that is that the pizza place?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah, get out of the pizza place because he's said
at the bar for ten hours? But no, like, yeah,
because that's sad, dude. Because you see Ricky Steamboat, you go, oh, yeah,
he's seventy three. You're like, yeah, no, he still looks
like a dude that you know. He gets up and
goes and takes a walk in the morning, Like it's
not sad, Like it's he looks like an older man,

(34:19):
but it's not deeply sad and depressing to look at.
But uh, Flair, The answer to that is yes, it
would be fucking awkward to see how he how he
would appear.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh ok, he does have a remedy for this, Joey
says Rick Flair and j C W. Yes, yes, start
booking JCW against ae W. Only good things will happen.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
I gotta say, though, and I'm not even kidding, I
think this would be the funniest fucking thing that just
ever if we started seeing Rick Flair show up in
public with Juggalo face pain fuck yes, I'm not even
not no, no fucking kidding, whatsoever? If I started seeing

(35:07):
Rick Flair in the hatchet Man hockey.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Chap Oh, Hell's yeah, I want to I want to
see Rick Flair looking for wife number sixteen with the
juggle hose. Hell's yeah, brom.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Going hicking heighten time you go hiding for kickings. I
know like six things about Juggalos, by the way, So
that's kind of where it tops up for me.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Do you think it would be a little bit? Do
you think you'd avoid it though, knowing that the Juggalos
are on the FBI's most Wanted List.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
I mean, I'm just you, well, he's probably already on
there for some reason. He's like beating there. I'm here first.
Uh no, By the way, the funny thing is speaking
of my limited knowledge of Juggalo war. All right, a
buddy of mine that was like, was a Juggalo guy,

(36:01):
and now he's you know, he's a man in his
mid to late thirties.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Now he's straightened up his act and yeah, it kicked
the alcohol. Now he you know, Now he just now
he just likes like drinking and fishing. So that's he's
moved on to more normal but not not listening to
size of a haunted Christian carnivals or something. I used

(36:25):
to mainline carburetor grease from Junkyards at the j c
W concerts. But now I just go fishing. It's like, okay, yeah,
that's great.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
He's like, he's like, you see, usually I'd be the
guy that would be trying to smell the gas at
the boat engine hells. Yeah, but now I just now
I just turn it on and go out.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
And now I just yeah, now I just use the
boat as it was, as God intended.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Yes, of course, instead of stealing the gas from it
to put into my nineteen ninety four fucking I would I.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Would siphon I would siphon out the gas with a
McDonald straw, you know, before they had the paper ones,
and I'd be like one for the car, one for me,
one for the car, one for me, all right.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
And I was like, yo, gee, I didn't know you
weren't supposed to do that with your nose and that
was but no, so he knows is Juggalo shit? He
wrestling shit? So I told him, I go, you know,
Vince Russo is booking for j c W Now, oh
is he in? He said to me, okay, sorry, go on.
Oh yeah. So I said to him, I go, he's
booking for you know whatever now. And he goes, oh,

(37:33):
He's like, man, you know that's gotta be tough because
Violent J apparently is like a real control freak. I'm like, okay.
He's like, I wonder if they're like clashing. And I'm
thinking to myself and going, if somebody said to me
at this point, who do you think you would trust
more to book a month of wrestling television, Violent Jay

(37:53):
or Vince Russo? And I gotta tell you, I think
I'm going with Violent J.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
You know what's funny about that? There was no I think.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I'm going with the with the Juggalo clown guy over
Vince Russo.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Truthfully, there was Vince Russo and I'm not sure if
it was on a show or if it was the
interview done by one of the other composite channels, but
he was talking about I think he spent over a
year talking with them, talking with Violent Jay about bringing
him in in some capacity, And I'm thinking to myself,
I'm like, well, that's not really normal for wrestling. But

(38:28):
you're telling me that they danced around getting Vince Russo
for an entire year, year and change.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Well, I mean it would take a lot at this
point for anybody to think that they should trust Vince
Russo to do anything, which I I still think to
some extent the Juggalo guys are or for what it's worth,
they're just nice dudes. I think they give a lot

(38:56):
of people in wrestling work Historically, they've done that for
like a of a century now. They've paid people, well,
they've paid him more than what they've asked of them,
So maybe that's in their mind now, like, hey, you
know what, maybe he's not as bad of a guy
as everybody makes him out to be. We'll bring him in,
We'll take some pictures. You know he'll be a different

(39:18):
character on the TV show because the majority of their audience.
I assume at this point, are there are there new Juggalos.
I'm like, not even trying to be a dick, like,
are there like people that are young that are getting
into this music?

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Aile?

Speaker 4 (39:35):
I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I assume that they're starting to age out right.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
I mean, come on, they were.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
They were popular in what the early to mid nineties
is when they made their big Jugglo debut.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Yeah, I mean, they've been around for fucking thirty years, man, Mike.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, it might be. It might be babies, Dan, Dan's right,
it could be fake babies. Perhaps I could see that,
like children that are fans because they like what mommy
and daddy like. Butsh I mean.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I just think about like I once again, I've heard maybe, God,
I don't know half dozen of their songs that weren't
like the fucking Miracle song and shit, And to me,
it always sounded like the worst like made on a
fucking muppet baby's cassio keyboard beats. Oh yeah, nice Wesley

(40:34):
Willis style fucking garbage beats.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I remember there was a girl I was trying to
plug back in the nineties that literally played The Great
Malinko on fucking repeat, and I just I think I
punched out of that whole thing. I left. I left
before I could even seal the deal. It was just
on repeat, and I just felt weird. It was awkward.
The house felt like a trailer. Even though it was

(40:59):
a two story house, it looked like a trailer on
the inside. It created an area of it, you know,
it's just and I'm like, I'm wearing a suit. I'm like,
what the fuck am I doing here. I'm like, ah,
I'll see you later. And that was the end of
the best People.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
It's like how people putting mirrors in a small room
to make it look bigger. You play in Saint Clean
passing in a big house to make it feel like
a trailer. I just know, like to some extent, like, yeah,
there's obviously the generational music people pass it down, you know,
like I remember having my first like some of my

(41:35):
first cassette tapes were from my mom, and it was
like Jimmy Hendrick's experience, Janice Choplin, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Of course, I just laughed. I inherited Black Sabbath and
Pink Floyd from my phone like, yeah, no, for sure,
I get that, but.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
I just also laughing. Some young kid and your friends
are all listening to like fucking whatever hip hop is popular,
or even shitty pop country or whatever, and your parents
are like, you can't be don't listen to that. Come
listen to some of this real ship. You're thinking to yourself,

(42:12):
like you remembering being a kid, and it it's like,
you know, here's here's the you know, fucking Jimmy Hendrix
playing crazy solo or even like some song from the Beatles.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
It's like crople harems, some Jefferson Airplanes, some deep purple
yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
And then like ten year old kids at the room,
you're like listening to that bullshit, here's some real music,
and it's like, why is a clown? Want to be
a clown? Why don't you turn that frown upside down?
Get a hatcheting, kill your family And you're just like, oh,

(42:54):
that's what you want to do then, and the dad's
just looking at him shaking his head like this, sister,
good stuff, This is the great stuff. Yes, you're listening
to this fucking stupid, stupid music. Why don't you why
don't you listen to this? To some of this good stuff,
and then she's like, dude, drugs, why don't you do

(43:15):
some drugs? And then look at what's that? It's the
move coming up and down. That's so confusing, Bro, What
the fuck like? You're like, no?

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Now here's some of their lyrics right Southwest Voodoo. I
remember this song being played a lot. It was me
met this kid named Louis lou. He thought he could
fuck fucks with this voodoo, so I turned his head
into Alima bean and then flicked it off his shoulders
from Mucan house in Shakri Law Egyptian pharaoh Kumpanta. Follow

(43:51):
me and join us as we pray to the seventeen
moons of Kunga Dee del Rey. Yes, okay, but.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
By some somewhere in one of those aforementioned trailer park
fucking it's small towns. There's a guy who's our age
with like a soul patch, who lost his hair when
he was twenty two, looking at his teenage daughter while
she's listening to Taylor Swift and being like the fuck
is this? Oh? Yeah, of course, what's this? What she

(44:23):
we call this music?

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Drink your faygo grow some hair on your chin. Come on, lady,
you need to be listening to the good shit. You
know what, here watch this wrestling show. Here's Vince Ruth
sixty five year old Vince russ Will being like, girls
are too emotional, bro. Yeah that's that'll resonate' that'll go swimmingly.

(44:47):
So yeah, Jesus, I did watch something that was good though.
I actually got a little treat today, the Stephanie McMahon
podcast What's Your Story. I usually watch those as they
drop on Thursday, and this week they had Paul Hayman on,
and I knew it was going to be great, and
it is, what two and a half hours, two hours

(45:09):
and thirteen minutes, and I'm looking at it now. It
was fantastic through and through, like literally two hours of
Paul Hayman not being Paul Hayman, two hours of Paul
Hayman just being Paul. And I think a lot of

(45:30):
fans of Paul Hayman, even more so than Stephanie, that
really want to understand the vibe on why Stephanie fired
Paul Hayman, Like what was it fifteen fucking times or whatever?
You start to understand why. And there was a lot
of talk. I mean, they talk about you know, the
wrestling side of things. Of course, they talk about being
a heel versus being a face, and Stephanie says some

(45:53):
crazy shit like you know, Chicago is the audience that
broke her because they called her a crackhore and there
were some fun ones and and I forgot which city
it was that gave her. The most hurtful comment that
you've ever heard was steph'scot side meat. And apparently that
one fucked her off in village, some random audience, I

(46:14):
don't know, Steph's got side meat, and she took that
one to heart, and I was like, oh, okay, So
there's some funny stuff. He gets into a lot of
his family, talking about his mom, you know, talking about
his dad, but really really talking about his mom and
the depth of you know, his history and stuff because
Stephanely wanted to kind of like talk to him about that.

(46:34):
So he gets real deep into his family and what
it means to him. Like we've heard him talk about
his family before, but Paul Hayman's not usually open about
talking about his family. Didn't talk He talked a little
bit about his kids, but mostly talked about mom and dad,
And I thought that was interesting too, But the real
interest came when they were talking about their tumultuous relationship,

(46:59):
how they were always friends and this is what they're
saying now, But there's a lot of wink wink, nudge nudge.
There's a lot of reading in between the lines with
what they say, because there's more than a few times
it's Stephanie kind of corners Paul Hayman and Paul Hayman
doesn't really know how to respond, which is Look, if

(47:23):
you've watched Paul Hayman interviews over the years, the man
always has something to say, like he can get out
of any corner. But it was weird seeing him actually
in a corner with Stephanie, and not in a bad
way now, like oh shit, she's fucking laying it in,
but even just catching him off guard a few times

(47:45):
was really wild because I don't think I've ever seen
Paul Paul Hayman put in a corner like that. And
they were talking about how a lot of their relationship
and this was the key point, was all because of
the fault of Vince McMahon, right, and he basically explained

(48:06):
it and she kind of explained it too, that when
Vince hired Paul Hayman. He told Paul Hayman, don't do
nothing for my fucking daughter. I don't want you to
help her. I want you to be there, to be
a creative disruption. If she doesn't belong there, I want
you to get rid of her. I want you to

(48:26):
do whatever it takes to make sure my daughter, you know,
is always belongs there. If she doesn't belong there, get
rid of her. And meanwhile she was telling Vince was
Helen Stephanie, you got to get Paul Hayman under control.
He's out of fucking control. You need to manage him.
Why aren't you managing him? So it was Vince literally

(48:49):
playing both sides against the middle, whether it was to
you know, and they left it up to the audience
really to determine why this was done. Was it done
because Vince enjoys sick little games where he pits his
daughter and Paul Hayman against each other, or was it
because Vince was trying to bring out the best in
both of them and have them constantly competing and coming

(49:11):
up with creative, you know, loops and different ideas like
you don't know, but that's where they kind of left that,
And I thought that was interesting as hell that a
lot of their relationship strife was because because Daddy's over
here going, yeah, you can't control your employees.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Kid?

Speaker 4 (49:27):
You know, I I could hear that story and think
to myself, maybe Paul is kind of you know, he's
doing a Hayman remix. Yeah, But also at the same time,
it's like, yeah, you could also see Vince pull and
that shit for sure, for sure where in his mind
he's like, Hey, I don't want this cheeck to go

(49:49):
completely like even though it's his own kid, like, I
don't want her to go completely unchecked. I want her
to still kind of feel like, you know, she's gonna
get pushed, she's gonna learn, she needs to learn this
way or hard way or whatever you want to say.
And also for Hayman, I'm sure Vince is also thinking
in his mind, this motherfucker thinks he's smarter than me,

(50:09):
he thinks he's better than me. Well no, no, So
I could see that being like you know, the the
king being, Oh, I'm just gonna turn you against each
other and then I shall never be be smirched like
I could.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of angles that Vince could have
been playing. I agree with you. I think that's what
I think it is, is like there's there's a mix
of both, but ultimately just creating strife means that they're
not paying attention to Vince right right, yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
By the way. Uh oh, he just puts there, he goes,
Vince just wanted to ship on people. I like that,
and I like that in a literal sense, like he's
just like, you guys handle this, so I gotta go
ship on people.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
He just wanted to shop on people literally figuratively. Just shit.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
He's they're talking to him and he's looking over there.
He's looking over looking at the clock in the wall.
He's like, I got a shit appointment, damn it.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
He's just drinking metamucial double fisted.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
I was just, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Gotta sorry, I gotta, I gotta sat scot daddle.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
He's gonna, I'm gonna he's gonna.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Alright, Uh, I gotta I got an appointment at two
And you're like, man, it's already ten o'clock at night. Yeah,
you're not getting to play on words. God damn it,
God damn Yeah. But that's but you know what though,
I could see him and having his own kind of

(51:41):
struggle with expressing himself in some ways because he's just
he's been able to hide behind a character. Yeah for
fucking ever, to where now somebody's looking at him and like, hey,
I need you to be a person. He's like, right,
are you sure? Well?

Speaker 3 (51:59):
He brought that up too. He's like, dude, I'll never
wear a leather trench coat in the real world. I
just don't wear them. He's like, even even if they
actually keep me warm in the Philly Winner, there's no
fucking way in how I wear a leather trench coat
because I associate that with that guy. And I was like, oh,
that's kind of wild, Like you can't even wear clothing

(52:19):
because you're afraid of of the character at portrays. I mean,
I guess it's not like he's doning like a suit
of armor. It's a fucking trench coat. But that's how he.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Feels his in his mind, that's his wrestling gear. It's like,
you know, was Aj Styles going to go to the
fucking Pigley Wiggley and his biker trunks? Yeah? Maybe his mind,
that's how he sees it.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
All he needs is that fair of faucet hair and
everybody knows who AJ Styles is, get know, do.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
You know I think that would be good if AJ
Styles for some of his last matches cut his hair
and he went back to his little like early two
thousands slip up the front of your hair, like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Just saw that Jersey shr moose and his hair with
that little that little point that they were doing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Yeah, which which, by the way, don't get it twisted, guys,
that was a look for some reason, some reason, that
was a totally acceptable early two thousands haircut where it's
just like, yeah, could you just like cut all of
it and then just leave enough for him that I
could just scoop it up in the front. People are like, yeah, sure,

(53:26):
that makes complete sense. Yeah, not even like a not
even like a faux hawk thing, which people are posting
the faux hawk to. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
it was different.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yeah no, it was not up in the middle. It
was up in the front.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Heah.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
You guys really don't remember phenomenal AJ Styles like TNA days,
even even earlier than TNA's I think even had that
haircut with me was with Air Paris in w CW.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Yeah, well that was when it's really stuck. It's called
him the Finn.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
It's the Finn haircut.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Yeah, i'd say that, you know what, that's a fair
thing to call it. But so hm, very arrow dynamic, Yes, yes,
I mean I think that that people forget this was.
That was a hairstyle, following, of course, the undercut and
the bowl cut, which the kids brought back. The fucking

(54:18):
undercut again, and I'm just like that was like four
or five years ago.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
The bull cut dumb. Yeah, that bowl cut was awful
on women. It was the worst.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Oh it looks it was awful. Well, there was also like,
for like maybe six months or so a couple of
years ago the early nineties, hideous mom curl hair came
back for you women, and I was like, this looks
like shit, why don't do that? I think that was horrible.

(54:48):
When it was popular, the bowl was they literally took
a popcorn bowl on your head and then they shaved
around it, and then they would shave under the actual hair.
So like when when you grab their skull for whatever
reason that you would grab a woman's skull in the
late nineties, when you grab their skull, it felt like

(55:09):
you were grabbing a jar head or something like they
had a marine cut and then there was just hair
over it. It was the weirdest feeling. Yeah, well, you
know you got to think, dude, you see you see
everything once or twice or three or four or five
times in your life. Of course, it was like when

(55:29):
Bailey had the half shaved head, which I thought that
to me, that's one of those looks that people have
where they go, oh, no, this is cool, and you're like, no,
it just looks good on people who were hot, no
matter what, right, right, No matter what you do. Like
I say, oh, that looks good on so and so,
You're like, yeah, but you're good looking anyways, fucking put

(55:52):
a Vince McMahon turn on their head, They're still going
to be good looking. Like cut it out, like you're not.
You're not selling the haircut. Everything else is just good
enough to outweigh the dumb haircut, right, That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Gorgeous women still look good without hair and recovery, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
It's just oh, d there's I think you were the
one of the first people I knew that was like, yeah,
I think a fucking woman with a shaved head looks good.
And I'm like, you're not wrong. Some some got away
with it. I mean, i know, yeah, I know, she's
like a fucking cuckoo wackydoodle woman now, But like in
the late nineties, in the early two thousands, Jada Pickett

(56:31):
Smith look good with yeah short, yeah, the short haircut.
But you know, not everybody could pull that off. Some
people you just look like a fucking lunatic. Yeah, it's more.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Of a culture thing too, Like it's it's a punk vibe.
There's a thing for punk girls in there somewhere, I'm sure,
but yeah, yeah, that's fine. Eighties mohawks.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Well that's also like, you know, like street Fighter just
posted Helly Barry. I'm like, another one. You put a
turn on her head. She's stoking to kill it.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
That's Jordan Grace, not how Olly Berry, No.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Right underneath her. I know. They're easy to mix up.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Yeah, one of the same guys, sorry by Bett.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Yeah yeah, potato potato, of course, sure, sure, potato steroid potato.
You know, the same thing.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
So, yeah, what else happened on this interview? Yeah, they
went more down our life. They were. It was definitely
kind of leading Paula Hayman to drink. But yeah, they
talked about the Hall of Fame, and I thought it
was interesting too. He completely winged the Hall of Fame.
You know, he didn't want to talk about the past.
He was making fun of all the Hall of famers

(57:44):
that always get up there and all they do is
talk about Yesteryear and stuff like that and old stories.
When Paul Hayman got there, he really didn't want to
talk about Yesteryear. He wanted to talk about the future.
He wanted to talk about something different. Because he apparently
turned down the Hall of Fame five times, I think
is what he said. So they tried getting him in
there multiple times, and he kept saying, no, he wants
to do it after he's retired. He sure didn't want

(58:06):
to do it while he was still working a program,
you know, and obviously it was WrestleMania and he had
his big thing going there still. And yeah, no, I
thought that was interesting too, that he finally just accepted
it because his kids kept pestering him about getting into
the Hall of Fame because they thought that they were
going to have to read him in post post humans

(58:27):
human humor humorously Jesus Christ maybe, but yeah, I know,
Jesus that was bad posthumously.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Yeah, but yeah, no, but I know what, Yeah, that's
a legitimately like that's a Hayman joke. But also at
the same time, it's not right. He's a man in
his sixties now, he's like a heavy guy.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
You never know, right, But I thought it was like
deep though, that his kids were the ones like, Dad,
go in because we don't want.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
To do this, you know.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
It's like Jesus, so dark, but it's so true. And
I thought more along the lines. It wasn't even just
as kids. It was like, how many of the guys
from E c W are gone?

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Now? Oh? Most of them?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Well, that's what I'm saying, Like, how do you as
a guy who is best known for ECW. This was
your baby, this was your creation and a lot of
the talent that you paid or didn't pay are gone.
Are just they don't exist anymore?

Speaker 4 (59:28):
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, most of them. Like it.
I was thinking of that even when he was doing
the fucking speech. Yeah, I'm like, who do you got?
Who do you got in the audience there? That are
ECW people that were still alive at the time, right,
half of half a dozen real names. I mean, unless
you're really starting to to dig into some of the

(59:51):
lower card sort of talent, Like it's like, what are
you gonna do? Have Chili Willy and kid Cash show up?

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Like where's Chris Candido?

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Yeah, oh no, well he was. That's that's like a
it also goes to show you like that's another guy
like on this huge list of people, it wasn't all
just constantly horrible, sad, drug addict blah blah blah blah blah.
There was even people that just like horror like freak accidents,

(01:00:20):
natural causes, Like now at this point there are people
that died that were in ECW where you're sitting there
and you're going it wasn't just the heroine nerve fucking
pills or lifestyle like shit happens, life happens. But it's
it's crazy to think that he's one of the people.

(01:00:41):
And I guess you could say it just based off
of the fact, like you know, he ended up in
wwe made some money. Maybe he actually went to the
fucking doctors a couple of times and tried to do
something to make himself, uh stick around. Obviously, the family
was a motivator. A lot of these people they either
didn't have families, so they had families that they didn't

(01:01:02):
know well of, and you know, they liked drugs more
than they liked being alive, right, so it is what
the fuck it is. But no, that's that makes sense
to me that his kids probably did look at him
and say, hey, man, like, not even just for us,
can you please just have this moment for yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Right, I'm just being I'm just being facetious with the
way that I was saying that, ah, can you did
this before you die?

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Dad? Like that's just me, right, But also, but also, dude,
these the kids are probably i mean, he's a smart motherfucker.
I'm sure the kids there dumbasses either, right, right, and
they probably knew that the way to get him to
do it was to make it about them, to be like,
your dad, you got to do this for us, so

(01:01:46):
he'll be like, okay, fine, as opposed to you know, no, no, no,
you're doing this for you. Sometimes you gotta that happens
in life. You've noticed with some people where they in
their minds it's like, hey man, I really need you
to go do whatever this would be for yourself, and
you have to turn it around and make it about
them being nice or someone else to bamboozle them into

(01:02:09):
doing something for them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
But like I said, I mean he didn't even really
say that as much. But I really do think like
the fact that there was the ECW rosters thinned out
in the real world had to have been a deciding
factor too. I mean, you turned it down five times
and your rule was I don't want to do this
while I'm still active. But you realize that all the
people that you know are no longer with you, and

(01:02:32):
maybe the kids were saying like, hey, dad, you should
do this, and WWE was clearly saying, hey you should
do this. Maybe it finally just you know, like, fuck,
maybe I should do this. I don't wanna. So here's
the dark side of all of that too. I don't
want us to find out that Paul Hayman is sick
or anything, which is why he took me. I mean,

(01:02:55):
you don't know, none of us fucking know. It's not like, hey,
we need to see your medical records for our wrestling podcast,
like no, it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
You know, well, dude, there's also something and I think
that this is kind of a funny sort of maybe
you know, having the insight on how the direction of
everything was going to go. They might have looked at
him and said, listen, man, the next time we do
one of these Hall of Fames, or the next five
times we do these hall of Fames, it's probably going

(01:03:25):
to be Las Vegas, the Middle East, whatever fucking country
will pay us more money, you know, Like, we're not
going to end up in New York or Philadelphia again,
probably before your seventy fifth birthday. So we gotta do
this now. Let's get this moment. Yeah, because unless you

(01:03:46):
want to go into the Hall of Fame and fucking Bangladesh,
all right, Brazil, like wherever the fund that can get
money from for WrestleMania, Like here you go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
We would have saving this money for the war efforts.
But instead we're going to bring in WWE Survivors Series. Yes,
just as good as medical supplies and clean water.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Yes, okay, WWE presents Gota. No, I'm just oh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
The real god war begins January first. Oh fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
WWE presents We have a right to exist. Oh man,
what a horrible fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I want to make so many jokes, but it's like,
you know, we should let this one go.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
But also at the same time, I'm like, yeah, we
live in a horrible world. Let's just talk about the
fake wrestling shit. It's silly because God only knows what
the fuck any direction anything, which, by the way, like
this is also telling you, guys where a lot of
the news and conversation is where it's like, yeah, there
was like a podcast and then aw did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Oh I mean we could I've got other shit. I
was just excited to talk about the the Hayman interview, dude,
cause it's like, look, let me just wrap up this
part of the segment, right. I know, I suggest the
Stephanie podcasts and some people are like, well, that's just shit,
and some people like it, but this was a different dynamic.

(01:05:23):
Even if you don't like the Stephanie podcast normally, What's
Your Story, Paul Hayman and Stephanie together is almost an
awkward experience. I really think that a lot of fans
should watch it put it on in the background, although
you're gonna miss a lot of facial cues. There's a
lot of reading in between the lines on this show.

(01:05:45):
There's a lot of awkwardness that gets covered up by laughter,
and they even make jokes about it, like we you
know for years we started off everything with you know, hey,
ha ha ha ha, and they both would laugh because
I guess that was the icebreaker. And then Paul would say,
did you get psychotherapy yet? And Stephanie would say, no,

(01:06:07):
how about you. It's like, not yet, I'll get to
it when I can. And that was their opening. I
guess that was their opening banter for years. So it's
you can definitely tell that they're all in a much
better place now, like this isn't the same Paul Hayman
dealing with Stephanie McMahon in two thousand and six, Right,

(01:06:27):
this isn't that era, But you can tell that there
was some hesitation on a little bit of both their parts.
There was a few nervous laughters. Like there was a
point Joe where Paul Hayman was talking about knowing everybody's
secrets that that was a weird part of the podcast.
He's like, yeah, and I know everybody's secrets, some of

(01:06:50):
them I'll take to my grave. My kids don't even know.
That's how much I honor and value friendship. That even marriage,
which isn't more important than a friendship because when you're
married and you argue with your spouse, who do you
go to? You go to your friends? And I was like, Jesus, Paul,

(01:07:12):
what are you trying to say, dude? And he's saying
this while making like this dead eye contact with Stefan,
your fan, and I'm just like, see, there's shit there
that obviously will never know. But it was just like
some of the vibe of this was really outstanding. Honestly

(01:07:32):
favorite podcast of the year bar none pot Y easy
this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Yeah, how funny. It is like some of the shit
that Hayman's like, I have some crazy secrets. Yeah, for example,
did you know it was like you just get like
into the mind of Paul Haman. He's like, did you
know that? See him? Punk had sex with a lot

(01:08:00):
of women's wrestlers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
See them Punk, see them? Punk is an oxy addict.
I bet you didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Why do you think his eyes look fucked up all
the time. But by the way, I'm still believing some
of the uh, some of the kicked around conspiracy theories
that seampunk hasn't actually been straight at for like fifteen
years I've read I've heard those kicked around people like yeah, nah,
he like fucking he eats edibles and fucking yeah, guess.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
CBDs. Does he take the CBD oil I bathed with
the CBD oil from my achy joints?

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
Yeah, which which at that point like just fucking grow up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Just smoke a joint already fatty, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Or just or just eat. I mean like they already
make the weed fucking snatch. They make it. It's snacks now, right,
It's like, oh, I don't you know, I don't like gummies.
Do you like chocolate and don't like chocolate? Alright, fucking weirdos.
Do you like a drink? Can you drink a drink? Yeah?

(01:09:15):
You don't know which bubbley is carbonated? I think there's
I'm pretty sure there's like weed water. There's weed and water.
It's just like drink drinks is the weed water? Then
it's just like would being a fucking baby. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I've been to those I've been to those dispensaries. Man,
they they are literally a strip show. They are a
strip club full of colors and flavors and smells. They
put weed in everything, in everything everything.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, as as they should, because who cares? Like I
just I see all of the ship with with pot
at this point where I don't know I'm hearing these
random rumors of like they're gonna start trying to roll
back the laws on pot and all the shit, and
I'm like, I don't know if you could put that

(01:10:06):
genie back in the bottle, because even the boomeriest boomer
has like their kid that's you know, hey, you know dad,
here's some fucking melatonin weed gummies and they're like this rules.
I think, you know, I don't know if you could
get rid of that. At this point, it's pretty fucking
it works out pretty good for a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
You know, I wonder why they're doing that, why they're
bringing that up. Like, if I was to think financially,
they probably made more money busting people for having a
joint in their ashtray back when they had ashtraising cars. Yeah,
they probably made more money busting people for a fucking
ticket for having a joint in an ashtray. Then they're
getting from these dispensaries.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
That's so fucking well. I mean, I guess there's also
the whole you know, private prison thing and shit where
it's just which is still hilarious. It's like one of
those funny you say it's funny because it's so fucked
up kind of things. But I'm just picturing right now.
There's dudes that have been in jail for half their

(01:11:11):
lives and you're like, what are you what are you
in jail for? And they're like, I sold the marijuana.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
I know Illinois let them all out. I know Illinois
they did. No, no, no, they did when they finally legalized
it in Illinois. They let them all out. But there
were people that they had in there for over ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
That's fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
And it's like you were let out? Why good behavior? No,
we just flipped the law. Oh okay, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
At least they did the right thing and let them out. Yeah, No,
what a fucking joke that would be be like, oh,
why are you in jail? Like like, oh, you mean
that shit that I can go buy at a fucking
place looks like the Apple store now right, I can
go into like a fancy fucking place where there's people
walking around with tablets like would you like to get

(01:12:00):
this flavor and texture and could you describe your symptoms
that you have? And you're sitting away, rotting in a
prison next to a guy that like fucking murdered his family.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Nasha Corey has a good one too. Yeah, it's kind
of like, what are you in jail for? I downloaded
Lord of the Rings trilogy on my windows XP Oh
those napster people that were busted that they made an
example of them. You stole more than two million dollars
worth of mediaez I.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Still love the old those commercials when you see them
because they're such Now at this point, it feels like
when people see like Reefer Madness Kypey School propaganda where
it's like, you wouldn't download a car, I'm like, fuck,
yeah I would.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
In a second. Man, haven't you guys walked Downron? I
watched Tron.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
Not that new one though, but yeah, the original. You
know you wouldn't download a car. I'm like, now you
have three D printers, It's like, could I could I
download a car?

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
I know I could download a clock.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
You wouldn't download a gun?

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
I think I would. No, you wouldn't do that. That's
too bad. That's a bad thing to do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Can I use the gun to get a car? Would
that work?

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
How could I use the gun to go rob people?
To buy limp Biscuit CDs?

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Oh D need that double live edition of the Great Malaco?

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
Yes? You're sitting there, You're just rob someone in your
clown face face. It was like, the police are looking
for you, How will they ever identify you?

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Space Mountain.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Rick Flair's riding shotgun with you with a six XL
shruggle O Jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Yeah, with this three D shotgun.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
That's great. He's like, He's like, ye ye gi the
fucking money. This is a this case. Come bitches, yet
take your money, you go buy what.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
That's awesome, Rick.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
We can just listen to that on Spotify. It's like
moon Dog spot Look the fucking spiderfag. Oh my god, dude. Oh,
I gotta say you, dude, it's always fun when there's
when this is the wrestling news that we've got.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Well, there is the there is the new news about
the new w w E two K twenty five. It's
the Netflix edition. No, I'm not kidding. W W two
K twenty five update has surfaced and it's the Netflix
Edition of w W two K twenty five. In case

(01:15:01):
you miss it today, Netflix allowanced WWE two K twenty
five Netflix Edition is available for preregistration. The mobile WWE
Wrestling Experience launches exclusively through Netflix Games, giving players the
chance to rise through the ranks of the WW Universe
as one of more than forty superstars, including Roman Range
three or Ripley Trist status Undertaker more. Whether we living

(01:15:21):
re legendary rivalries or forging new ones, players can tag
can take on tag matches, no disqualification, singles, matches, and
more as they battle their way to the top of
the W Universe. Players can customize their path with Laura
and define their own journey in the Championship satas blah
blah blah. So basically, I don't know if you use
this at all, but if you have Netflix, a paid

(01:15:41):
for Netflix account, and you have the app on your
phone or tablet, Netflix offers the chance to download games,
and apparently Netflix now is offering a Netflix version, a
Netflix upgrade of two K twenty five for your mobile
phone or tablet. Oh boy, yay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
So this is their way, Yeah, this is their way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
They said it was an upgrade, Sean, they said it
was an upgrade in the article. I believe the article always.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Why would they lie.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Yeah, it's not like Netflix was paying them, right.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Did you ever did you see that fucking there was
like a Rogan clip or something somewhat recently where he
was just something that was complete fucking bullshit, and he
just goes, why would it lie? Like it was some
article on the internet. Like he's like, why would it lie?
You're like, dude, what why was something on the internet lie?

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Reasons?

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Uh, for the exact thing you're doing right now, which
is getting people to click on it and make money. Dude,
Like that's that's the only reason why. But so is
this like the forward step that the streaming services are
going to find some sort of way to like they
have PlayStations and Xbox is irrelevant?

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Oddly, Well, that's God, I'm so glad you brought that up, because,
as of I believe twelve hours ago or fourteen hours ago,
the PC Master Race has officially won.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
I don't know if you know about Oh I heard
about that. Yeah, the master Race, Right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
The new Steam Box has officially killed off all the consoles,
and every console from here on in the future will
just bow down before Steam. The gay Box, the gabe Cube,
as it's been dubbed, is the first PC version, the
first PC made by Steam. It has incredible graphics, much

(01:17:36):
better than any console available on the market, and it
has the ability for you to use software has VR
built in it's it's pretty much amazing in every way.
And the fact that it has a backwards catalog going
back with Steam to what two thousand and two, two
thousand and one when Steam started, And the fact that
since it is a PC, you can pretty much just

(01:17:58):
emulate every song on game, every Microsoft game, every Nintendo game.
So it's pretty much a computer slash console that has
the ability to play every game anywhere ever since the
beginning of fucking time.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
In four and I mean yeah, yeah. And also I'm
sure Vince will like it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Because he's like, o steam Box now gab Gabe Cube.
That is the dub for it, the Gabe Cube. Yes,
Gabe like Gabe new.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Him Jab well like, oh, is that the guy that
owns uh Steam?

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Sir Sir Gabe, Sir Gabon, Yes, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Well you know what I like. I like that idea
that they finally are just like, hey, why don't we
just put all the fucking video games in one thing?

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Enough? Enough of this bullshit?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
You know to do editing too, like the editing. The
fact that you don't even need a TV is amazing.
You just slip on the visor and you just have
everything everywhere, So even non VR games you can still
use a VR headset for and just have a giant
screen wherever you are. Matter of fact, they have this

(01:19:11):
weird picture in their commercial where they just have some
Karen sitting on her deck looking off into nothingness, like
she's just looking at like the edge of her yard,
but what she's actually seeing is all these games and
programs and YouTube and everything else that's running. And it's
pretty wild because it's like, oh, so you mean I

(01:19:32):
can edit the shows in three D awesome from anywhere
because it has like this dedicated line so you can
play games remotely. You can activate your computer remotely, so
I could go to a completely different state, and as
long as I have my connection, then I can pretty
much run all of the hardware all my computer from
wherever I'm at. So I can be in Boston editing

(01:19:56):
shows live while I'm sitting right next to you. I
could literally do that. So yeah, I don't know, And.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
I mean you're gonna think of it this way too.
That's also pretty useful and it's cheaper in many respects.
It's like, hey, we should invest in infrastructure and try
to make things nicer. It's like, why I just put
the fucking helmet on.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Yeah, I change reality. Who needs reality anymore? Joe? You
don't need fucking reality.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Oh look, well the buildings are falling over. Put on
the fucking helmet. He put the helmet on, right, put
the helmet on. It's like, hey, it's on fire. You're like, yeah,
just fucking put the helmet on and just you know,
hope to find and if your feet start feeling hot,
you know, take it off.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Yeah. But the reality is is this is much. This
is needed, right, Like the console wars have been raging
since the early eighties, since Nintendo and Atari and Callco
Vision and Texas Instruments days and even the three eighty
six four eighty six Packard Bell computers, like it is

(01:21:00):
been raging for years, and obviously Sega came along, and
then things like Jesus Christ, what was that one? Turbographics
sixteen and Panasonic three dos, et cetera, et cetera, different
Famic cons versus Nintendo and all these these different console
wars where people come out with games that aren't backwards compatible,

(01:21:21):
and then PlayStation and PlayStation two were backwards compatible, but
they realized they were losing money, so they didn't do
that anymore. At some point I jumped off the console. Shit,
like I think PS two, honestly, Joe was when I quit,
I just said, fuck it, PS three. I can't play
anything from PS two or PS one on there. I
don't want it. And I just kind of quit. And

(01:21:42):
the kids still played. Obviously, the kids had consoles. They
had the Wii and the Wi U or whatever, and
we would dance and play Mario Kart and Super Smash
Brothers and shit. But I mean, at the end of
the day, and I even I even have a switch,
like even currently right now, I saw the switch. But
for the most part, if you offered me a computer

(01:22:03):
that does more than a computer should and could, and
you put an OS in there that isn't Microsoft related,
but it's basically a Linux backboard, I'm kind of in
favor of it. And if the hardware is anything reflective
of the reputation that Steam has, Steam puts out bangers.

(01:22:24):
They'll only put out two at a time and you'll
never get a third. But the first two are awesome, awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
But this also makes sense and many respects, And this
is coming from somebody who doesn't really even play games,
but it just makes sense for us to finally be like, okay,
like you said, all those options, all right, here's the
final form. There's one black box that you buy for
six hundred bucks and you can put all the games

(01:22:52):
in it, you can download all the shit to it there,
and you have the account. It stays there forever. Like
it's like, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense, is
the final form of this. And it's like, and then
what in three years still make another black box where
that one moves faster yep, and that one's eight hundred
dollars and it has.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
More so, no, it's gonna have all year old games.
I think people are arguing about price point. I think
for something that has this much speed in video hardware
and the expandable storage and everything else like that, if
this thing goes for less than twelve hundred, I'd be surprised.
If this thing maybe goes for twelve hundred, I'd be surprised.

(01:23:33):
Like they're boasting top of the line hardware. I I yeah, man,
Like you can't even get a PC for this price.
I spent twenty two hundred dollars on this thing. Oh
the loud computer? Yeah yeah, here, let me play it.
For you. I know you can't hear me because I'm
all the way over here, okay, but I just want

(01:23:56):
to give you this is what it sounds like normally.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
I know, I heard visious computer the other day, like
just before he was able to change this out of it,
and it sounds like white noise.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Yeah, yeah, it does. It sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
Well. Now it's even louder. Now it sounds like a
trash truck.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Yeah, movie sounds like it sounds like someone parked to
trash truck in front of the fucking house. You're like, man,
is that truck ever gonna move? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
No, that's a computer dude. Ye, miss is just getting
evicted from his apartment. Can't you hear the truck moving up?

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Yeah, it's just well, but you got to think though,
like if it's twelve hundred bucks or whatever, and they
find a way to where they even give people a
payment program or whatever, like two hundred dollars a month,
there's plenty of There are plenty of people that would go,
oh so whatever the monthly payment is for Steam, I

(01:25:00):
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Enough about No free Steam is totally free. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
So yeah, even like I know you have to have
you know, the thing for PLAYSTATIONE you have to PlayStation
collub or whatever the fuck. Even if you say to them, hey, listen,
it's two hundred and ten dollars a month for the
first six months or whatever, and then it drops down
to ten bucks a months, people will be like, it's
pretty fucking reasonable, right for what you're getting.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Yes, Steam, let me explain it to you, because I
guess people in the chat room want me to kind
of explain. So Steam is just basically a hub, it's
a DRM is basically what it is. You're paying for
the games themselves, and that's all you're paying. And a
lot of the games that you get on Steam are
cheaper than what the counterparts are offering the games for,
so you'll have a lot of crossover games that Nintendo has,

(01:25:51):
that that Sony has, that Steam will also carry. So
it's not even like everything has to be emulated. So emulating,
I know you know what that is because we used
to talk about raspberries and I know you were interested
in getting one of those, or I don't know if
you ever actually got one or not. But basically, emulating
is using software to trick the games into believing that

(01:26:12):
your computer is the console that you're playing it on,
and so apparently the comfortability of the Steam controller is
probably I saw something where it's like, the best controller
ever made was a Steam controller, and maybe that's true,
maybe it's not true. I think it's subjective anyways, anything
that everybody likes is always subjective. But basically, Steam is

(01:26:32):
a free experience. The OS is going to be free,
it's all going to be Linux based, it's going to
have that backboard, and Steam itself is free. It's so
you're not paying any of these Xbox month of the
Club gold suck my ass cards. You're not buying this
Sony Club shit. You're not buying anything from like Nintendo's
monthly or whatever. Steam just exists. You don't have to

(01:26:56):
pay for anything that you don't want. They don't give
you Actually, I can't even say. I was gonna say
they don't give you games for free, but they do
Steam regularly during the holidays, especially during Christmas, they'll start
dropping off their games or certain games for free. And
as long as you're paying attention, you download the fucking game.
At the time, it's it's yours forever. So it's not

(01:27:18):
even like they don't give away games for free. It's
just it's a better experience through and through. I mean,
what are you paying for a Sony card a month?
Fifteen bucks a month? Right, so arguably you're paying one
hundred and eighty dollars a year just to have a
PlayStation run.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Right. Well, there's also I think of this too, Like
you just said that some of the games are like, yeah,
just take them. I like to download them, get them
for free. There are so many goddamn video games that
were made, you know, fifteen years ago or whatever, and
I'm like, and no one's even thought of them sense, yeah,
for another decade. And I guess you could just kind

(01:27:59):
of sit in there be like, hey, if you want
to play this shit, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
I'm looking forward to Sea. Well, Tonga's reviewing that shit too,
because he's going to say something interesting about it, I'm sure. Okay,
in the chat says those games are yours until they
pull the license. No, that is not true. I have
many games that have been pulled. Many I have an
old library, and I would say at least thirty percent
of my games don't even exist in the marketplace anymore.

(01:28:23):
But I can still download them whenever I want. Once
they're yours. They're yours once you purchase it, it's yours.
If you wish list it and you wait five years
and they're gone, well that's on you. But yeah, they
don't take away anything then.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
So do you think they're going to try to align
the release of this thing with the Grand Theft Auto
game that they've delayed now for seven years?

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
They should, they were smart.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
That would be the move. Yeah, that would be the
fucking move. Wouldn't it like for them to be like, hey, listen,
Grand Theft Autos coming out October twenty twenty six or whatever, right, yeah,
and right at the same exact time, we're selling the
fucking magic Box, so you should buy the fucking magic
box gimmick you can play the Grand Theft Auto on it,

(01:29:07):
and well, you know, yah ya.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
How it'll probably happen. And Shawn's righty saying, look, GTA
won't be out until later, it's not gonna be released
with it. What they'll probably do, and Steam has done
this before, they'll offer a pre purchase with like pre
release benefits, like early benefits, like early adopter early adopter benefits,
So they'll probably let you buy the game in January

(01:29:30):
if they're gonna do this or February whenever they're gonna
launch it, and then those people that pre purchase it
for the absurd retail price will get extras. They'll get
like free beta testing, maybe they'll get some skins or
some silly shit like that, maybe this soundtrack, and then
they'll be the first ones to download the game when
it's released. And that seems to be like a lot

(01:29:51):
of the games with Steam, what they do nowadays, especially
with the Triple A ones, is yeah, the game won't
be released for another six months, but you can you
can give us your money now. We're not gonna say
no to money now. We like money now.

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
So oh yes, the pre order stuff, which I used
to think that was so fucking funny, even in the
early two thousands, when it'd be like, do you want
to pre order the fucking PlayStation Tube WWF game or
WWE game? And I'm like, dude, are you guys gonna
sell out that fast? Why am I pre ordering a

(01:30:25):
fucking video game that I could get the hard copy of? Like,
I don't know, just we just want to hold some
of your money. I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
I abandoned the hard copy after Fallout four and that
was because when I bought Fallout four, I got the
disc and I got the special lunch box I think
it was. The lunchbox was for three or for four.
I think it was for four. I got the lunch
box and I got like all the artwork, and I
was like really jazzed up to pop the disc in.

(01:30:53):
And I popped the fucking disc and it says, now
you have to download the game. What So, what's the
point of this disc? Just to tell me that I
had to download the game through Steam? I was like ugh,
and so I just yeah. Ever since then, the followed
seventy six and all the other games that come with
the hard copy. Now, even with the extras, I just

(01:31:16):
I don't care. Whatever, it's a popcorn bucket, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
Well, I think this is the most important question though
about the new gaming system. Will I be able to
play Echo the Dolphin on it?

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Yes, of course, you'll be able to play all the
Echo the Dolphins the Echoes?

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Yeah, Oh no, see, I only play the original.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
No, there's so many span your mind.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
Brother, Well, I'm into the Old the Old Testament. After
the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
I like it when they whip the whales. I like
to hear them scream.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
Yes, if you don't eat enough Fido plankton, you will
be punished for not eating your plankton, which, by the way,
it's been it's been a while. Guys. Can somebody do
a quick check? How many people playing Echo the Dolphin?
How many people playing AW one steam?

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
I wow, somebody posts earlier. AW has officially zero players,
zero players, So so Echo's beating them by probably.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
At least one, well, at least one a, doesn't you know.
I'm gonna say eight eight people probably playing Echo Dolphin
on the planet at any given point. AW not so much.
That's rough.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
I did want to say this though. We usually have
dose of chocolate after wrestling soup and the drw C
show is having on Josh Allen, who runs the Tennessee
Backyard Wrestling So if you're in discordinate listen to us.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
I was gonna say, doesn't he have a he has
a football game coming up? Again?

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
Yeah, Marcus Jallen's brother. Right, it's just a yeah, God,
I'm old, but yeah, no, make sure to check it out.
I'm sure the boys will do just fine there and
they'll talk about the wackiness of Tennessee Backyard Wrestling and yeah.
Much love to Jeff Lippman, who had his birthday this week,
and much love to Andrew Carlock, obviously third corner of
the show, who also has his birthday this week. I

(01:33:13):
believe Saturday, Saturday, I'm bad. I think it's I think
this is the fifteenth. So we're not going to be
here because you know, we got Frank and Gust tomorrow,
but we got nothing on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Right, I'm just as surprised as you are.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Okay, yes, well I know Warkings is coming, all games
is coming, but yeah, not now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
Not just now, by the way, there it is zero players,
zero people playing a twenty four hour peak ten people.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Wow, actually that went up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Look at this seven day that's seven day forecast. The
ten people that were playing were twelve hours ago.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
They all and there was probably like one group of people.
They're like, hey, want to play that shitty game together?

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
He feels like a YouTube streamer, like worst Games in Wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
Yeah, wouldn't it be funny if we all played that
shitty shit. Yeah, let's go play that shitty shit. And
they're like, yeah, man, we're doing good. Things are going well.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
We got Frank and Gust, tomorrow, guys should enjoy that.
We'll talk some off tough shit. And I read more
about that AW book. It's I saw people's comments on
the video. They said it gets worse. They did not lie, Joseph,
They did not lie. Keg. I mean, I wonder if

(01:34:39):
he's a Harley Cameron Puppert at this point for Tony Kahan,
because I mean, maybe he sold his name so Tony
could write it himself. I'm not sure, but you would
think that AW was the greatest wrestling promotion since God
created earth.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Well, you know what you get what you pay for, right, Sure,
you pay for the guy to write, you write a
glowing fucking piece about your wrestling company, and there it is.
You're gonna get it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
I'm gotting it. I'm gotten it all right now. But
much love to Dan, Much love to the YouTube channel.
Check us out on the YouTube. Check out our friends
Tuney Talk Wrestling, check out the RCW show with Lee Sanders,
and then of course Jeff Flippin's show Garden of Doom
or Jesus Garden of Thought. My goodness, that was a throwback.

(01:35:31):
Garden of Thought every Week or Gospel of Thomas and yeah,
check out Drew Yari and the experience on A new
episode drops on Wednesdays, and we'll be back here tomorrow.
Spitball Media, check them out. John Draper and the boys.
I know John Draper was actually hitting us up online.
Say an he wants to swing by. Maybe we'll get
him on for Survivor series wargames. That's a fun time

(01:35:52):
to talk and yeah, yeah, I'm fucking out of here, dude, and.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
We'll be back shortly, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
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