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October 30, 2025 91 mins
0:00 – 1:00
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1:00 – 5:00
Initial reactions to Monday Night Raw. Anthony finds it “so bad it’s good,” while Joe is more forgiving. They riff on WWE’s quirks, including character nicknames and the ongoing “Kyrie sucks” storyline.

5:00 – 10:00
Discussion of Jey Uso’s prominence on Raw, the overuse of certain wrestlers, and WWE’s tendency to ignore negative fan feedback (e.g., YouTube dislikes). The hosts debate the logic behind booking decisions and the company’s response to criticism.

10:00 – 20:00
Analysis of the Jey/Jimmy Uso storyline, speculation about heel turns, and the “couples” trend in WWE. Joe and Anthony critique the lack of realism and emotional whiplash in the storytelling.

20:00 – 30:00
Match quality talk: praise for in-ring performances, even in less compelling storylines. Nikki Bella’s ongoing run is dissected, with jokes about her career trajectory and WWE’s habit of giving veterans “one last run.”

30:00 – 40:00
Regional and character humor: New York accents, Discord nicknames, and Bubba Ray Dudley’s creative advice for LA Knight. The hosts lampoon the idea of taking away LA Knight’s voice and WWE’s experimentation with AI.

40:00 – 55:00
LA Knight’s booking woes, the challenge of building new stars, and the disconnect between online wrestling discourse and reality. The conversation shifts to Rhea Ripley vs. Brock Lesnar comparisons and the pitfalls of trusting “fan” opinions.


SmackDown as the “secondary brand,” the futility of brand splits, and nostalgia for the days when champions floated between shows. The hosts brainstorm fantasy Survivor Series matches (Irish vs. Samoans, “race war” jokes, etc.).


Women’s division talk: Alexa Bliss, Charlotte, Bayley, and the awkwardness of current storylines. The hosts praise Bayley’s authenticity and critique the prevalence of cosmetic surgery among other wrestlers.


Main event and title scene: Tiffany Stratton, Jade Cargill, and the booking of women’s championship matches. Predictions for upcoming events and speculation about Naomi’s return.


Saturday Night’s Main Event preview: IC title match (Dominik Mysterio vs. Penta vs. Rusev), WWE and World Heavyweight title matches (Cody vs. Drew, CM Punk vs. Jey Uso). The hosts discuss possible outcomes, interference, and the future of various stars.

1:31:00 – End
Closing thoughts: generational change in wrestling, the challenge of building new main eventers, and the emotional focus of current storylines (especially Jey Uso’s “feelings”). The show wraps with plugs for Patreon and a tease for the next episode.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the wrestling soup and h mmmmm,

(00:37):
who sir?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Whosa ooso four letters one word, bo.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Shot usha ulsho four letters, one word.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Oh shit?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
What's the deal with Monday night? Broh?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah? Yeah, I know? Did you? Did you just like it?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I thought it was mostly pretty decent.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I thought it was hilariously bad. I thought it was
one of those so bad it's so good, so bad
it's good kind of things, like WWE has a habit
of doing shit like that, and it was all the
nuanced shit. It wasn't even major shit, like I mean,
we're going on what week thirty one of Kyrie sucks?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
So yeah, that's a little much.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I mean, now she's no longer crying on the camera
every single time that somebody puts a camera on her.
But now she's making wacky faces and doing silly things
with umbrellas and and she's doing the nanny nanny booboo,
your fucking your matches smell like doo dooo, Like I
just I can't this. This girl needs to fucking go away.

(01:52):
I'm so done with her, and I know that now
she's becoming an integral part of this tag team thing
now that they're making the three way and not the
good kind with her Charlotte beefy Bliss and the other
two the Bailey and bird Girl.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Beef Bliss is good. I like that. It sounds like
the name of a fucking like a generic Hamburger helper
at Walmart.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, it's it sounds like that one ice cream that
nobody buys at dairy Queen. You know. It's like, oh, man,
I want to I want to twister her cone. Oh well,
do you want the beefy Bliss.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, You're like, you can turn that upside out and
it doesn't even Yeah, I bet you can.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I bet you can. Yeah, John McCain, I'm just gonna
start calling people by their by their fucking discord names now.
I'm sick and tired of No, seriously, Joe, I've been
doing this shit for fucking years now, where it's like
somebody will switch their nickname out and then I'll be like, oh,
but who is it really? And then I jump in

(02:52):
and I have to fucking open up their profile and
then look underneath the profile part where it tells me
their email name, and then I re them off by
their email name instead of their nick fuck that you
got a stupid nickname. Fine, fuck you. I'm just reading
your nicknames now, John McCain.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well, it couldn't be worse than some wrestler names. I guess, right,
I mean right, John.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
McCain, Beefy Bliss.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, girl, I mean listen. The show was clearly far
from perfect, but I think it had enough good stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh yeah, well you know, I'll let me start then.
You know, Wrestling Soup. I'm Anthony Thomas. He's your excellency,
Joe Numbers. Joe Numbers is here to tell you what
was great about Raw this week.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, I can tell you this much about it, all right.
I was watching it back on Tuesday. So this is
what makes it more palatable, all right. I gotta remember
that sometimes when I'm able to fast forward through the
five minute long entrances, the three and a half minute
Whileng commercial, breaks all this other shit, it makes it

(04:04):
a lot more palatable. Yeah. So, you know, even though
it's like two hours and twenty minutes, sometimes I at
least get that breather, you know. Sure, that's the difference.
I mean for the people that do sit there and
take it all in one sitting, I get it I
get why that could be a little bit annoying, so

(04:26):
but I don't know, Man, there was some stuff on
the show that was that was decent. I didn't think
it was the dirt worst.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh no, no, okay, let me clarify. When I say
that I find something so bad that it's good, I
do mean it. I mean in the same sense that
you would talk about like a fucking a C level
horror movie like the Crawling Eye or some shit or
some toxic avenger kind of stuff, right, Like it's so
bad that it's silly fun, like the way that people

(04:54):
talk about what was it the Notebook? You know, they
even made the fucking image of us with the Notebook
guys in there whatever, or the second one. You know,
like there's it's just something that it's charming. Raw is
absolutely charming sometimes. But the dialogue, the setups, there's a
lot of things that are just it feels like they're

(05:15):
fighting against themselves. Can we just call it the Jay
Uso Show from now on? Because he had what was
it four segments? Four fucking like they got rid of
Seth and they're like, oh man, what are we gonna
do with all this Seth room? I know, jay Usso.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I know, right, You're like, man, we need somebody that
is questionably somewhat slightly popular. We think, you know, because
the entrance works, so that must mean that they should
have extra TV time. No, you're not wrong with that,
with the.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
With the jay Uso thing. More segments, Joe, four fucking segments. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
By the way, if people ever want to say, like Vince,
would you things to just spike people, It's like, I
don't know, man, I'm starting to feel like that might
just be wrestling, you know where that's apparently the new
mindset where it's hey, so, jay Huso wins the Battle
Royal and he'll be competing on Saturday night made event
and it's the most disliked video of the.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Year on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, you're right, why don't we give him more television
time and more of this like weird teasing of like
you're a bad boy, maybe you're not well here, I
don't know, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
To piggyback off that point, I read the stupidest fucking
news today, right, So you were talking about Obviously, the
Jay Husso winning the Battle Royal was the most disliked
video of twenty twenty five for WWE. Well on what
it is it no Q no d Q, Oh no,
I'm sorry Fightful. No d Q was reporting what Fightful said.
But according to Fightful Joe, their WWE sauces stated that

(06:59):
the company doesn't pay attention to YouTube dislikes end quote.
What the company that puts up their Instagram numbers, their
Twitter numbers, how many people view their YouTube videos all
of a sudden doesn't pay attention to something integral as
everybody hates this.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, like I said, maybe there's something to that. Maybe
there really is some level of spite or we're just
gonna do it so fuck you, we don't care. But
there is something insane to like to even put that on,
you know, on blast, or to put that online and
say yeah, now, they don't really take that. Honestly, they

(07:41):
really don't care. You're like, you're full of shit.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Sure you're either making it up or the person that
was talking with the people the sauces that we're talking
to Fightful, we're bullshitting them absolutely because you're talking about
look me and you have praised some of the behind
the scenes of decisions on the way that the AWE
handles their money. They know how to squeeze us for
every cent that they can, Like they're constantly failing upwards.

(08:08):
This is not a company that ignores glaring responses like
everybody hates this and just goes ah, you know, fickle,
They're fickle.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well there's also this there's also this like pitfall that
they're obviously falling into over and over and over at
Debt with Jay Russo, which is that the reaction from
the entrance is it? That's it, That's the whole meat
and potatoes of this situation. But well, the people keep

(08:40):
putting their arms up and down. That's got to mean something, right.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
That means they're bored. Yes, they're trying to do the
presidential Health Fitness Club thing or some shit. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, remember I was saying that, you know, years ago
at this point where it's like sometimes the engagement from
the audience that you think you're getting, you're like, hey man,
you know they're caring enough to do something. That's not
always a good barometer of actually somebody caring or being
over you know, it's it's getting in. I mean, I

(09:16):
guess it's long past that where you're looking at it
and you're saying to yourself, all right, guys, where we
just milk this shit for every single second that we
can on the show with the with the Jimmy And
it's like, I heard you out.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
There, Oose. You said we wasn't gonna be family, no Moose.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And then five minutes later he had five minutes to
think about it, you know what.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, he runs across somebody He's like, you know what,
I actually sat down.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I really contemplated.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I had some deep thoughts about it.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Never mind, I'm like, why is who is this ford
at this?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I actually I'm kind of reading into this a little
bit more, and I'm trying to do a big picture deal. Right, So,
long story short, would Joe say that is correct? You
literally had one scene, you know, after his debut promo
against Sam Puck. We'll talk about that in a second
where you know, Jimmy and Jay kind of go face
to face and Jimmy's like, how could you do that?

(10:13):
I I protected you two times. It was supposed to
be me and you in the end, and Jay's like,
you know, fuck you, and it's like, Joe's right, And
like twenty minutes later, like literally I think a match
and a promo later, he comes back He's like, man,
that was the old me, but the new me twenty
minutes later thinks that you're right. And I'm just and

(10:34):
I'm fucking laughing my ass off at this, and I'm like,
this is fucking atrocious. But I see something happening big picture,
and I think we all forgot. I think we all
forgot how successful Naomi was is as a heel. I
really think that this long term playoff of Jimmy versus Jay,
I think jim might go heel. I think Jimmy might

(10:57):
go heel and they might lean into another couple another
time couple. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like that's
almost too far out, man. Really, that's they're fucking doing it, man,
they are doing it up. They love the couples right now.
I'm telling you, it's only a fucking Tony Kahan no
sniff away from Brandy Rhodes showing up froll Cody there.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I dude, I really really like the fact that it
just so happened to be at this point. The guess
Jimmy usso is doing a better job than Jay. I
don't think a lot of people would have predicted that
are called that truly, but we are once again in
this spot where it's like it's just an entrance and

(11:40):
it really is becoming more and more obnoxious. These two
interactions just based.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Off of the.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
It doesn't come off in any way, shape or form,
is realistic, genuine, believable, Like just even like I said,
you know, oh ah ah screwed you, and then five
minutes later he's like, actually, I thought about it. It's like,
did you not think about this in the in the
preceding week since it's happened.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
And I love the fact there was a point there
too that Jay tried lying to him. He's like, oh no,
I was trying to what he say. I'm trying to
fuck with l A. Knight and La Knight was in
the way, and he's like, no, motherfucker. I saw the tape.
I watched it over the weekend, which.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Also falls firmly into the category of the babyface is
lying directly to the ice of another babyface.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You're like, but not joking his brother, his fucking brother. Yeah.
Like it's like like the one person in the world
that always knows you're lying, the person that you were
born with, you know, like, fuck.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm gonna lie to my twin real quick. See if
he doesn't pick up on it, dumb ass, Like what
a dumb like You're right, Like, there's just some of
this stuff on the show is just so inexcusable.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh there's more. There's a lot more. Yeah, that's why
I was, I really am. But it was there was
some shit.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I honestly, I think the majority of and this is
where I sound all fucking nelsarian. Uh, the matches were
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I thought there was some good marriages, you know what. Honestly,
it seems like more of a rare and rare discussion
that we have when we talk about somebody going out
there and having a bad match. Even Nicky Bella against
Roxy Roxyanne had a decent match. Now, granted, you know

(13:36):
Roxy was working with a handicap Nicky Bella, but I
still think that it was a decent match. It was
a passable match. It was nothing great about it. I mean,
I wasn't gonna there and go wow, you know. I
mean the interesting thing that happened was Roxy gotta win.
I was impressed by that. Usually she's so busy eating pins.
I wondered if she knew what it was like to
lay on top of somebody so.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh uh no, dude, there's there needs to be a
timeline on this Nicky Bella thing though for real.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, I mean it's you know, when she has up
and comers like Stephanie Becker coming out there to save
her ass.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
You know what a great thing to do to record
at this point, I mean, fuck, are they testing her?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Is this like are we're fucking with her?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Thing? Where it's like, listen, we're not buying this really
nice and also really talented and really attractive stick, so
why don't we fuck with her by giving her this
fucking bag of rocks too to work with? For two
to three?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I love it. They want Stephanie to drag Nicky's career
to its fucking bitter end. They want her to be
the one to just lump this this rock up the
hill and they're like, oh, you're so talented, huh, Nicky
Bella motherfucker, Like I love I love that. Oh you
think you're so good?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
We have just the thing for you. You know what
that's coming because one day they're gonna be like, Okay,
you got Nikki over, but what about brief And then
it's like, fuck, guess.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
What we bought an even worse one or hell yeah,
at some point, I mean, my god, all right, the
charity is over. Like I know what, dude, I know
what WW is doing right now. Which is funny because
once again, the more things change, the more they stayed
the same. There is always this mindset and wrestling where

(15:35):
you know, they give the guy that's older, they give
him that one last run and he eats a bunch
of pans and people are just looking and they're going, oh, yeah,
you know, they're just doing something nice for him. It's
the Harley Race in the nineties, you know, like, oh,
here you go, We're gonna make sure Old Harley doesn't
fucking starve, you know, nothing like that. So it's their
heart's in the right place. But the Nicky Bella thing eighties,

(15:58):
Oh it's fucking done.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
It is over.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Please start making your way to the exit.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
She is making her way to WrestleMania. Think about that
for a second. This Nicky bellishtick is going to go
on at least until WrestleMania definitely rumble.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Very good chance of that. I mean, I think Pat
said to me yesterday, he goes, what if they announced
that Nicky Bella is John Cena's last opponent.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Maybe that's the endgame in all of this. Well, we'll
find out in December.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Maybe you know what, maybe they will do something related
to him and her like that potentially is the thought process.
You know, It's like, listen, we're not going to just
try to bring Nikki in and make her feel like,
you know, we're literally just going to pay you for
the Scena thing. So whatever this like phony, baloney, half
assed run and then they'll have some sort of interaction

(16:54):
towards you know, Seena's last match or something where they'll
give each other a hug in the ring and you know,
we get closure. Whatever you want to go with, I
don't know, because, like I said, other than hey, let's
take care of the old timer, which is hilarious to
call Nikki Bello that, but I don't get any other
reason why she's continuously on TV and having matches.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Because I think that's what they look at her as
a star power Joe, I think you forget about how
many young ladies and now old women are wearing Nikki
Bella merchandise in their closet. They have the hat that
they sometimes turn backwards before they pick up the kids
in their astro van they have the jacket or the
half jacket, you know, they drink a lot, like it's

(17:36):
it's just all just dedicated to her, their love of
the Bello Twins.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
So I understand it to some extent. And this is
I don't know, maybe it's the entertainment, like, maybe it's
just the age or whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Maybe it's as we're from New York. I don't know,
it's just yeah, oh oh yeah, we're from New York.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, I was dying laughing something.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Someone's like, yeah, these guys are for New York. I'm like, so,
I'm like, oh yeah, swinging a miss guy, which, by
the way, I do I do love the aspect of
or not even the aspect, but I do love the
the ability for people to be like, yeah, that accent

(18:19):
close enough.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm thinking they had been international. I'm thinking that's an
international commentaur that immediately hears my voice in Joe's voice,
he goes, yeah, that's that's what New Yorkers sound like.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, that's because they well I'm sure they think that,
you know, similarly to Americans would about a lot of
other countries were like, yeah, was there like fucking five
cities or something?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, no, five is right, Joe Numbers from the Bronx.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, don't be fooled by the rocks that I got.
Oh my god, that's always fooled by me being so excellent.
Now I'm just Joey from the Block.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's almost as insane as I don't know if you
heard Bubba Ray Dudley's fucking suggestions for La knight this
week on Busted Open. Oh I did not, but I
would love to know what he thought would help this
porson of a bitch get over. He he thinks the
best course of action for La Knight, not paraphrasing, is
that the motherfucker loses his voice. That's his big creative idea,

(19:21):
is that somehow you take away La Knight's voice. You know,
the best attribute that he has is cutting promos. But
what if you took that away and made him a
real star?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Like I got a great idea. What if he gained
seventy pounds and shaves his head.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I think that would look good. I mean to make
a well, some camouflage, you know, it's some urban warfare camouflage.
What if instead of saying yeah, he says eh, I
forget about it.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, not even just eh you know, he's like La Night, eh, eh,
everybody in the crowd looks and just hey, You're like, yeah,
that's perfect, Baba.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I think you're really onto something.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Then hey, so you know, since we're talking about La Night,
can we talk about another chance for l A Night
to lose on screen again?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Another This is this is where I'll be fair. This
is where I'll be fair. Okay, all right. I don't
like Night losing.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't hate it.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I go on, I hate it, but I will tell
you this match, this was about as good as you
were going to get out of bron Breaker. Mark my
fucking words. Anybody that's sitting around still going, yeah, bron Breaker,
he's the future and he's this and he's that. I go,
I totally understand it. I see where your mindset is.
I see where head's at. But the matches and his

(20:52):
ability to kind of keep them coherent and together.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Not so great.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And at least with him and La Knight in the ring,
to me, that looks like an old school raw or
an old WCW match, because you got the two guys
that actually look like wrestlers. They're having a regular ass
wrestling match, and it's believable. They're telling it the decent
story and you.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Can tell wrong story though, Joe. Look, this guy was
just slayed up against Seth for the fucking title. Like
they've they've really ripped the rugout from underneath this guy.
He fucking out maneuvered, out clevered CM Punk. He fucking
lost to Seth. Now he's he's losing to Bron. It's
just kind of like this downward spiral for this guy.

(21:38):
It's like, why did you even put him up top
if you were never going to give him the shot? Look,
can I understand? Seth is hurt, so there's no way
that he can go after that. He can't claim it now,
although it'd be funny if he goes to his house
with a baseball bat. But La Knight has become so ineffective.
It's like, what's the point of even rooting for this
guy every single time he does something right? WWE in

(22:00):
all of their geniusness, their creative genius, whether it be
chat ept or Ai Gemini, whichever, it's its determined that
La Knight should lose all of these matches.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Now.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I don't think that he should have beaten Bron breaker clean.
I think he could have easily been you know, Bronson
Reid is down there, and Paul Hayman's down there, and
La Knight gets a fucking chair and then he gets
decued or you know, something like. But the fact that
you have him out on his back, I don't know, man,
I've I really hate this direction. It's just the match

(22:36):
was fine. You're right, it was very much of a
nineties field, eighties field. Nothing wrong with the match. I'm
not complaining about it. It's the outcome. It's the determination
of what this story is going to be that sucks.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well, this is the problem I feel like with ultimately
what you got with the whole bron Breaker La Night
kind of situation. We're acting at this point like bron
Breaker is forty two years old and La Knight is
twenty seven, you know, or twenty five or whatever. It's like, dude,
I get it. We gotta put some people over, we

(23:11):
gotta build for a future, whatever the fuck it is.
But we also actually have to, you know, get what
we can out of the people that are over right now,
because La Knight's got what maybe three four years left
in the tank. If you keep pitching him out and
he's only going to look more and more forty. By
the way, let's point that out. He looks great for

(23:33):
his age. He's in great shape, he's still got his
fucking hair, he still has his abs, all that shit, right,
But he's only gonna get older look older. So when
you start trying to make him get over, it's like,
I'm a fucking cool, tough, badass guy. It's like, unless
he starts transitioning into looking like stone cold Steve Austin,
people are just gonna go, hey, and now you're just

(23:54):
a middle aged guy in a vest.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
But you have geniuses that are saying, you know what,
the best thing you can do for Ellie Night right
now cut out his vocal cords.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
So yeah, I know, But dude, you know what's also
funny to me is like I saw that shit about
them being like WWE is tinkering with AI ideas. You
know what, at that point, just go on the internet
and steal ideas from fucking podcasters in Twitter.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I'm sure, just do it. I'm sure, But at that point.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Just do that. If we're so in a place where
it's just like, let's see what the robots say. But then,
like I don't know, maybe trust trust the audience a
little bit, like, I believe me, it is hard for
me to admit that a lot of the people that
are just kind of like chuckle fuck wrestling fans where

(24:43):
there's more than enough, might have an idea that's worth
fucking using. Because the vast majority of the shit you
read online is dumb. It's fucking dumb. It's dumb, it's aimless,
it makes no fucking sense. But if you're also saying
I'm gonna put this against somebody that's and might actually
have an idea, might care or as a grown up

(25:04):
because you know, a lot of the people that are
watching wrestling at this point are forty something year old people.
If you're gonna say that or is you know, I'm
gonna put that against chat GBT, I might trust the people.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't know, man, you know you're saying that. But
then there's accounts like EBU accounts that are saying that
real Ripley is a bigger star than brock Lesner, you know,
like you get these idiot accounts that don't seem to
understand what the differences in just generic just just even
understanding that brock Lesner is a multi sport athlete and

(25:42):
champion has been wrestling since what two thousand and five,
two thousand and four in WWE, but Real Ripley, And
it's not a shot on Real Ripley, but to say
that Real Ripley's minuscule career versus brock Lesnar, the same
one that beat Undertaker too, by the way, minuscule career
is far bigger than brock Lessner's entirety of his career.

(26:07):
And these are the people that Creative are supposed to trust.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
And that's also, I mean, that's clearly a problem because
a lot of the people that do get the attention online,
they are dumb. Like that's a real that is a problem.
And like, by the way, I'm not even sitting here
like excluding myself from this category because to some extent
I can tell you this, am I fully invested enough

(26:35):
in all of this to some degree, like I have
I got, I say it every week, I got basically
no fucking idea what's going on on SmackDown. I don't
I don't watch it.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I need to have Jane turned heel. The blacks, I'm sorry,
oh mal like black and uh cosplay black have now
become cross and scarlet and uh yeah yeah, that's that's
pretty much majority of it right there.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
By the way, I like that you said that, but
but technically, technically that would be their name as a
married couple, so you're not incorrect.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
It's just the Blacks did seem to they did win,
So I mean, I guess a good one for the Blacks. Yes,
you know what, I don't.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I think that they should adopt that on television. See
how it goes.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
It'll it'll, it'll sound better if Joe Tessitory says it.
So the Blacks, Sorry, the Blacks win it again.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
You're saying something nice, but I still kind of feel
like I need to last you in the face. I'm
not sure if that's a good idea. Split time, we're just, yeah,
what could go wrong?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
What could go wrong? What?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
What were people not gonna like about that? On the
network television? You know right, no one gives a fun
I I don't want to see nobody. I'm sure there
are people that are like, SmackDown's my favorite show. I
have no idea what's going on there. But that's where
it also comes back to where it was like, hey, dude,
can you tell me how to book? Uh The Sleep

(28:39):
of Vega and Alistair Black, you know, buy their nickname
as we are just a name against whomever. I'd be like,
I don't fucking know, what are they doing?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
They could both because at this point they could both
be coming up with fucking boogie boards for all I know.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't know. I don't watch it on WW has
never been able to shake that SmackDown as the secondary
brand nonsense. They really have. And I think, I I
think one of the things that you know, and it's time,
it's time to go back and reunify the brands a
little bit. And I know that that means that they
have to get rid of like fourteen more championships. But

(29:12):
hear me out, You're at a point right now where
everything is pretty much watched on a delay. It's becoming
more and more rare, especially when you look at the
Neil Finns and whatever else of people sitting down in
front of their TV and watching this shit live. More
people will watch it on the replay, on the download
whatever the fuck it is, you know, as opposed to live.

(29:33):
So if you already know that that's the case, why
are we pretending that these brand splits even fucking matter.
They don't even do a draft anymore. Don't they don't
care about the brands. At this point, the brands look stupid.
You're literally having your audience. If you made compelling storylines

(29:55):
with someone that appears on both brands, chances are people
are gonna watch both brands to watch that person. And
I'm not saying that you can't have brand specific wrestlers,
but maybe even going back to the time Joe, when
when the champions were the ones that were the floating
between raw and SmackDown champions had to put the work.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
In that might actually be needed, that might be needed
once again, where you get to a point where it's
jay Uso in four segments being like, yo, man, I.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Just can't figure out my feelings. Oh, he'll never get
another championship again. Man, Jesus Christ, it's gonna be like
ninety minutes a week of just jay Uso entrances, just fucking.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh my feelings, man, I can't figure out my feelings.
How long are we gonna have to have the same
conversation about jay Uzo can't figure out his feelings, Like
it's getting it's gotten a tad excessive. And also I
know the whole bloodline thing is They're gonna keep beating
that because it was one of the most successful fucking

(30:58):
things they've done in a very long time. But without
Roman and with only the c players. This is to
make another very dated reference. This is all the dead
dogs of nWo trying to make the show fucking palatable.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Look, you opened up the show with see them Punk
and Jay Usso, and I know again you said this
was a great raw and I feel you in some ways,
but I respectfully disagree. I thought this promo was hilariously bad.
Seem Punk comes out there after j Usso does, and
then CEM Punk does a little bit of the mocking thing,

(31:36):
and Jay all of a sudden develops a tick. Did
you notice Jay's tick? Jay starts clicking and worrying every
single time CM Punk started talking almost it was hanging
out with Anddrate before the show, and uh yeah. So
the promo, Siam Punk gets into it, talks about his career,

(31:58):
how it's difficult for him to navigate a match between
somebody he considers a friend, and then he like turns
the mic over to Jay Usso, and Jay Usso goes
on a spiel that absolutely said nothing nothing in response.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
God, you know, what dude, you're reminding me of all
these things. I really had match blinders on because you're right, this.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
That was awful, like nothing like see m Punk standing
there confused and I'm like, it's not just you, man,
I'm confused listening to this shit.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
There was Oh fucking Christ, You're right, I forget there was.
You know what I think it was is because I
liked that match. I really liked the bron match. I
thought that old McDonough and Seam has had a good match.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
So I'm just like Penta, the Penta and Russev shit
was great. Yeah, I'm just having a selective memory of
the entring shit. But like, no, you're right.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
It was so fucking weird because Punk did his whole thing.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
And then Jay, who was so tied, and then he stopped, and.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
It was almost like the crowd applauded, like we're very
proud of that, like he's a forty year old man
that's been wrestling on television for fifteen years, and they
acted like a little kid just came out on stage
dressed like Abe Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
And it was like again in that year, I feed
as Zelina Vega, I.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I feed we couple on SmackDown, say, I were very
proud of myself, and they're like, oh my god, take
your camera outlet's.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
So to this little baby, his little baby boy promo.
We're so proud of him.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Like it's just.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
It was awful, dude. It was really really bad, and
that's how they opened up the show. So it's it's
almost like Seth never left because we're still getting that
same level of creativity on Monday Night.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Raw, I know, except it's except it's a guy had
a fucking cut off shirt and making poopy face with
a mullet, trying to dress like he's fucking twenty even
though he's my age.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's like, god, fucking damn it, dude.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's really jay Uso. Man, it's fucking rough. It's another
thing where, like I said multiple weeks, now, is wwe
overplaying their hand. Something got a little over and entrance
got over and they're like, great, we'll just make everything that.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Russe RUSSEV and Penta was a fantastic match and I
enjoyed the finish. It was all a dominic screw job
to have the the loss or the trace. Americanos come
out there, Bravo and Low Fat and they went out
there and they attacked Russev and Penta, and I like

(34:46):
the way that it kind of squared up afterwards because
they Russev is standing behind them, just breathing, breathing with
sheer hatred of anybody that isn't Bulgarian, and it was
it was a good little fight between them, and they're
big shot, yeah, and they're setting it up and obviously
it's gonna be the loss of Americ Connals versus russe
seven Penta. But obviously Dominic is involved there too, because

(35:09):
he had the scene later on with Adam Pierce talking
to Dominic's throat tattoo and basically saying, now they're coming
after you next, dude, and He's like me, no habla
inglis So I fucking love that shit. Dominic is a
highlight of these shows, especially when it comes to the
creative side of things. But yeah, no, that was a
fantastic match between those two guys too. I did not

(35:31):
think that they would mesh so well. But Russev really
is another level. I know Penta is fantastic too, but Russef.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I always get this.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Feeling like stop start, stop start, But man, I want
to see ruseven a bigger picture. Honestly, I think he'll
get there.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I mean, if not anything, he'll be, like I've said
the other week, an evil foreign foil right for a
Cody or whatever the fuck. But like, no, I think
it's very string considering what a lot of what WWE
was a handful of years ago. The matches are getting better,

(36:09):
Like I'm enjoying a lot of the matches more. They're
reusing way, way, way too many of the same guys,
the same finishes. We see them at nauseum at this point,
Like you said, the Nikki Bella and Roxyanne thing, it's like,
all right, we got Roxanne wrestling every week, and it's like, yeah, love,
love what Roxanne's doing. I think she's gonna get there.

(36:31):
But we're also dealing with another problem you want to
talk about, you know, the whole situation with Dom and
he's getting himself over.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
If you keep having the judgment day.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Kids And I'm calling them kids because compared to the
way that they looked like a lot of people on
the roster, they look like kids. Yeah, Jenny McDonald looks
like a kid.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Well looks like a kid. You know, they usually say
that children are the happiest, And I have a feeling
like the Judgment Day group tend to be a happier
group than everybody else. They're supposed to be heels, we're
supposed to boo them. But they got chicken nuggies, they
got video games, they got hot chicks. Like, I don't
know who doesn't want to be a part of that group.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, you've almost made it too Yeah, you've almost made
it too accessible. But there's also yeah, like somebody's asking
who Nino's asking He's like, what's Finn Balor? I'm like, well,
Finn Baylor's like the forty year old guy that's around
the people that are waiting.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
He's like free for at the bar. He's he's a
forty five year old dude. At the nightclub, he's the
unking junkos. Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
He's like, which I said, I said, uh last night
to the missus when I was watching this back, I go, uh, hey,
I go, Finn's hitting that just for men, dude, it's
a little too dark.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
It's dark. You can see it.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
You can see it because it's because his face is
starting to age, which, by the way, I mean Finn
is still gonna he's a fucking male model, Like, yes,
not get ourselves, dude, right, he's gonna he's doing just
fine for himself. But like you can see it in
his face and the hair is just a little too dark,
and I'm like, man, you gotta spend time around Italians

(38:05):
to know that that's bullshit. That's bullshit. Fin, That peck
color's bullshit. Pal, you gotta get some fucking but you
gotta blend that hair a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Pal, Wait till he gets the horseshoe. Huh, the straight
up Irish horseshoe. That'll be great.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
And he's still wearing the big pants and like the nineties,
which which, by the way, like the shirts with the
f's all over it. It looks like the old like
I don't know, like it was famous or something like that.
It was like a logo from the early two thousands,
which was like the shit that fucking kids would get
like Echo and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I'm like, yeah, the all over print.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Like I'm like, Fin, Fin, please put on some regular clothes, buddy, Yeah,
you gotta.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
And and it's also more trying to be ship. Everybody
in the group is at least twenty years younger, than him.
He's shunning. Hey, kids, I brought the weed. Who wants
to do the marijuana drug?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I got some weed drugs? And they're like, Finn, now
that's you know what, that's honestly a good point. Like
now you look at it and it's like you got
rock sands. She's like twenty five. You got a forehead?
Who I think guy is like what thirty three?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
He's gotta be yeah, thirty ish.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
She's gotten thirty ish. You know Racal who's probably thirty ish,
and Dom who's twenty five, right, you know, around that, and.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Then here's Fin forty five, forty five and running.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
You know, Finn's just walking in and his pack sun close,
like he's just.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Like, my god, he's still the only guy wearing a
Fannie pack in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's like, well, and not even like the way that
it's cool now where you can sling it over your chest.
He's just straight wearing.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Running the hip hip holster.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, he's got a fucking phone clip on his delt,
Like oh, then they all know, they all know, they
know you're.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Not a young man. Does he have a chain to
his leather wallet too?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Like you know, he's you know, guys, when I was
a kid, this was cool. This was the outfit to wear.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Are you wearing their fit? What kind of shoes was those?
British Knights? Oh? Okay, wow, I love but you know
what they're like. I love what McDonagh does in the ring.
He's dude, McDonough's great and he and he has that
like little man energy and it works so well. I mean,
we basically got the peaky Blinders match of the night

(40:43):
with him versus Seamus, and then you had Finn come
out there, old man Finn, old creaky old man Finn.
Get him some oil, the tin man motherfucker and they
had a great match. Seamus Seamus still is I mean,
for a guy who's talking about his brain is fun
dip at this point and that he's only got like
a couple of months left to live, he goes out

(41:04):
there and it's a fantastic fucking match. He really is
still quite impressive to me. But yeah, no, fucking JD.
Forehead is fantastic out there. I like the Irish guys fighting.
For some reason, Irish people fighting. It clicks with me.
I enjoy that. I enjoy seeing Irish people.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I know, I think it's a little far fetched, but
oh well, I.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Know they are very peaceful people, Ira, but that's you know, that's.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, there are tanks on their bums, which, by the way,
you gotta admit, if Seamus came out to fucking Zombie
by the Cranberries pretty fucking hard.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I would have to just like stand up and salute
at that point, or how does that work?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
You know what if they did like some sort of
overseas fucking eight man with just the Irish guy. Yeah, yeah,
you had Finn forehead fumous well, Seamus, whom I'm forgetting
an irishman.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Right, Well, you gotta throw Drew in there, just because
he's a Scottish. He's a Scottish. Yeah, small bird girl, yeah,
throwing girl, throwing becky.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah. We're like, all right, listen, these guys are in
for a fight. You're in bird girl.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
She's like, well, well, okay, what are we fighting over?
Potato on a pole match? It's made by the new
booker of J. C. W.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Vince Russo, Oh my god, They're like, you're fighting the Samoans.
She's like, oh, seventy five of them.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah, man, wouldn't it be a great that would be
a great street fight. That would be a great Survivor
Series match. The Samoans versus the Irish. Oh fucking dude, wow,
just one man't gonna give you that one match the
entire night, just the Irish versus the Samoans period. That's that.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I don't know. I don't know what you do with that,
I mean, other other than you promote it strictly as that, right,
like fuck it?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
And then the fire is.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Anybody gonna be pissed about that? Like other Samoan's gonna
be mad? No, the Irish people are going to be mad.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
No, might as well, no for sure. And then on
Monday Night Raw you can have the follow up with
the Blacks versus whoever wins.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Selena Meg of course yes and a yes, of course, yeah, yeah,
that's right. They're like, yeah, the tattooed goths. It's some tattooed,
tattooed goths, and uh, you know, WWE presents type cast

(43:50):
type type cast, Uh, Survivor series.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I'm like sick, all right, I mean I feel I
feel like I should feel some sort of They could
call the Survivor Series instead of war Games, right, because
they were real proud of all way we got fucking
Ozzy Osbourne to dedicate war Pigs for charity and I'm like,
oh yeah, because he had lots to say. But instead
of instead of doing the war games, they could just

(44:13):
call it Survivor Series Race War. Oh. I mean I
would have done with Nations Collide. Oh well, you know,
but you know they like the word war though. They
love war pigs and war games and race war and yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Well you know what though, it would be very very
funny at least just the Irish and the and the Samoans,
because it does also lend to the fact to where
people are like, yeah, like Irish folks, right, and you're
looking you go, God, look how fucking different. I like,
you can be Irish and look like male model Finnbaler.

(44:50):
You can look like weird.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Worster olsters Irish too, right. Tommy end told me no, no,
he's a is he Finish? He's one of those Oh
what is it Finland?

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah? Well let me tell you guys this. Americans. We
know absolutely fucking nothing about the Dutch wooden shoes. Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh, I know about going Dutch, that's when you leave
them at the bar. Jesus, what is it?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah? Weed and bicycles. That's fair. Are they wind mills
or the Dutch? The wind mills?

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I thought that was the Swiss.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
The Swiss by the Germans they like they like the
wind mills too. There's a lot of well, you know what,
I don't have a Swiss like money? All right, challenge
their chunkers who doesn't like money? I was just gonna say, Wow,
what a unique trait. Hm, well, miss roll, I mean

(45:50):
that would be an interesting Survivor series team people who like.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Money versus people who don't like money?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yeah, what could go wrong with the people you'd put
on on that team? The people that like money.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
So what you're saying is Vince McMahon comes out of retirement. Yeah,
that's what I meant. Yeah, that's what you meant. It's McMahon. No,
that's it, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Honestly though, now I'm kind of fucking with the idea
that the Samoans Versus Irish Survivor series.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I'm still thinking that it's just one whole, like three hours,
because it would be WWE, so it wouldn't be eighteen
fucking hours like any other aw pay per view. Do
you do three hours? Well?

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And how about yeah, how about this all right, because
we can't because obviously Roman doesn't want to wrestle. So
we make Roman the captain and then like I don't know,
Finn Finley the captain, and then they picked their teams.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Oh that'd be nice. Yeah, yeah, like a legal lottery,
but they hand everybody in Ireland a ticket.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Not ever just Irish wrestlers. It was just like it's
like like you just have fit family. And he's like, well,
obviously fucking Shamus how.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
That saying oh, like, well, this is going to take
place in Ireland. I thought that was what we were imagining.
It was so this, this Survivor series would take place
in Ireland, and I believe the Irish had like a
little rhyme like a little Diddy that they something something
if the Whites don't win, blah blah blah, we all
jump in. Isn't something like that? So the Irish, you know,

(47:29):
having everybody in Ireland with a ticket would probably make sense, right?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Is that an Irish? Is that an Irish song? I
just assume Is that by Jumbawamba? Yes?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
All right? I thought that might have been Fat Boys
Slim Wow No, another Irish singer. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Oh yeah, fat boy Slim was Irish. I forgot about
that guy. It's almost like it happened twenty seven years ago. Look,
not all my references are very current, but they still matters.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I just mentioned Chumba Wamba. That's fine, Okay, it's fine.
We both get knocked down, but we get up again.
That's all you can hope for, right.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
So we had the women's tag.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
This is, by the way, this is how interesting the
main event was.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
So I will I'm just you know, I'm trying to
get us back on track to one of the most
exciting raws that Joe has seen this year, and I
wanted to get to the main.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
How dare you frame this in that.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Manner? There were some good matches, that's all I say.
It was a good matches and we had Alexa Bliss
Thick Bliss.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
And this wasn't one of them.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
But that's okay. I mean, you know, the promo beforehand
was just it's it's nice that Charlotte's still doing that.
We us I mean me, you stick.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
I mean I gotta say, uh, speaking of you know,
Bailey and bird Girl and all of them, and bird Girl,
there's still time, there's still time. But it really makes
me like, I love Bailey, right, it always gonna love Bailey,
Big Pam, gonna love big Pam, you know, even when
she was doing the cuckoo promos and Mike, Bailey deserves

(49:21):
better than this. Yeah, but there's definitely one major thing
that I love Bailey for, and it's the fact that
you know, sorry, nothing, well there's two. I mean, I
mean technically there's three. Now I count the ass.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
This is one. Joe likes the bronze medal, got it
all right?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Well, which I guess that we I guess we can't
ignore the fact that Bail like Bailey.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
They're just like Bailey.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
By the way, you have tigle bits. Yeah, oh yeah,
that's a good point. I do.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
They have been strangling her chest. It was kind of
funny too, And I know noticed at the end when
she was having her like stare off with Oscar, she
kept trying to put him back in, but they kept
wanting to pop out, and so you see her grab
her her chest like three or four times, at one point,
putting her hand over her heart like she was gonna,
you know, sing the national anthem or something, just to

(50:18):
keep them bad girls from flying free. And I'm like, Bailey,
just embrace the moment.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, that was you know what, I kinda other than that,
which is also fantastic. Boy oh boy, I'm just talking
all about how her she looks, but for the amount,
for the amount of shit I'm sure she's gotten for
her looks as far as people being like, you're like,
because we've seen this people, Bailly's not even good looking.

(50:46):
She's ugly, which those people are fucking shoes in my
opinion anyways. But she has not bowed to that fucking
noise by people. She doesn't do the weird surgeries. She
hasn't she doesn't have this weird fucking plasticy sharp nose,
which once again I'm looking at Alexa and I'm looking

(51:07):
at Charlotte and I'm going fucking ten faces.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Ago, I recognize these weatheren now don't even know who the.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Fuck they are. Like this is this is unsettling, like
it's really it's bordering on uncomfortable to Bailey is.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Very comfortable with how she looks, and she's very comfortable
with that. And you can see and you're right, she
hasn't gone through the surgeries, but you can absolutely see
that she's proud of the way she looks. So those
comments from people that say that she's ugly or sheaf.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Mid joe, shef mid oh no, not average.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yeah, that doesn't even have an effect. I don't. I
don't think Bailey's one of those people that even gives
a shit.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
I know, and I'm but I also respect that because
a lot of people would eat you know, they would
eat those fucking insults for years and it would get
to them, you know. And she's and and by the way,
this isn't me being like, yeah, you should go take it. No, oh,
the exact opposite. Please don't change a thing about yourself.
I thought she was very pretty, and I like always

(52:07):
thought like, I'm like, oh, it's fucking good looking. I'm
just glad that she's not at this point where she
looks like you asked AI to draw Alexa Bliss and
Charlotte at this point, like that's what it looks like
when you see them. It's like, ugh, fucking unsettling, just
the complete mutant, fucking weird, overly botox plastic face. And

(52:32):
then there's Bailey where I'm like, you know what, Bailey
just looks like a cute chick in her thirties now
body's still fucking crushing it. I mean, what am I
going to say? Has good matches blah blah blah. But still,
I guess the match was. That's what the fuck it was, right,
I mean, but.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I mean it was there a highlight the fact that
all three of them will be at the Saturday night's
main events. We'll talk about that in a couple seconds too,
But yeah, no, overall, the match was exactly what it
was supposed to be. Look, it's it's more about Alexa
and Charlotte becoming the longest reigning women's tag team champions
in history. Right. They even told you that before the show,

(53:11):
and they had the little back and forth with Osca
and that was awkward too, that felt weird. And then
Kyrie with the stupid umbrella. Shit, yeah, just Kyrie, God
damn it, I don't know what to do with that.
Osca is the only you know, what, can they just
give Oscar both the belts and she can tag herself

(53:31):
in because.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
And still I guess Kyrie is there too.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Oh no, sorry, not longest raining. I'm sorry, Maurice, You're right,
you caught me, not the longest reigning, the most title defenses. Sorry,
you're right right, yay, yep, big difference, hooray. No.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I mean they're just filling time and they're trying to
create some sort of air of tension for It's like, oh,
is Aska and Kyrie going to go after them? Man?
I've been an outspoken Charlotte supporter, fan, whatever you want
to call it, for a really long time, and I

(54:14):
don't care about this.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
It's because this whole run is bullshit. This whole run
is a band aid. Charlotte wanted to come back as
a face. I really felt that Chicago let her down
when she's out there pouring out her fucking heart and
instead of instead of leaning into it as she has
done so many times before and just been the queen
bitch right, just become more evil and more sinister and

(54:38):
more hatred of the fans. She really wanted to be
a babyface. So she They attached Alexa Bliss to her
hip and now they have the Cane Daniel Brian thing,
but all their opposites, but they're friends. Whacky.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah, that is really bad, like that whole you know,
I mean, but we're I'm not friends though, Oh my god.
Nineties Buddy comedy, you know, like kid Kevin Hart and
you rocket along, he's toll and he's short.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
That's crazy. Which one was Jackie Chan? Alright, Chris Tucker is.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Chris Tucker is Zelina Vega in this situation, and Jackie
Chan is Alistair.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Jackie Chan has pigtails and golf makeup on.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
And no man is ever really good, No man is
ever truly evil.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Damn, mem Alistair, you just gonna go around kicking people
in the face like that. Damn Damn, you're gonna hurt him?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Oh, Tuck, this should go over? Well, uh yeah, No,
I'm not invested. I'm not even remotely invested in anything
in this situation. Charlotte, Dude, Charlotte had one bad mansion.
Apparently everybody decided, well, I guess she's just the shits now.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
It's like, I don't think she Look I still don't
put that on Charlotte. I'm sorry, I still don't pro either.
Look at Tiffany since then, she's a dead dog. And
the reason that Charlotte's the reason Charlotte's going down the
tubes has nothing to do with her in ring so
stilly this of the character. It's like you're trying to
repaint her career and It's like, stop that. Stop it.

(56:40):
Charlotte is too big for you to just change her past.
Who does she think she is? Lacy Evans like, stop it? Well,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Isn't it a little unfortunate right now because I'm thinking,
I'm like, I can't even remember who is fuck I've
completely forgotten. Oh well, no, Tiffany is the champion?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Who the fuck is you?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I'm blaking out of even who the other women's champion
is right now? Oh, Stephanie the Core? I is there
anybody and maybe this is like I don't know, maybe
they're gonna wind this down, but is there anybody that
if they were, like, hey, at WrestleMania or at you know,
Royal Rumble, it's going to be the Core versus Charlotte.
If you if somebody was to tell you, oh, that's

(57:27):
gonna fucking suck, then I don't know what you like
then for women's wrestling, if you if you would hear
that and go, yeah, I think that's going to be bad. Well,
I think fine, it would be better than fine.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
I think there's a lot of other matches that are
gonna happen. First. Obviously, they're going to lead to the
uh the Jackie two point zero, Jade Cargill versus Tiffy
coming up, and eventually Naomi's gonna come back. And when
Naomi comes back, I think a lot of people are
going to be interested in what she does because, uh,
you know, I think they.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Got to enough time. Man, we got enough time. Naomi's
be back for a for at least a year. I would, Man,
she's gonna have a kid, She's not like, she's not
gonna fart the kid out and then be like SmackDown.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
It is like kinna won.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Mesh over there on the Jeff Bezos plan, It's like, oh,
Naomi is going into labor. Oh, man, who's gonna deliver
all this laundry desertion?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Though, who's gonna yo? Who's gonna make sure that people
get their fucking TP and uh and toothpaste?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I mean, look, I love the.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Idea of that being like, listen, Naomi is the C
section scar completely healed? Yet on television? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Nowe is so safe. Now now they'll probably give her
two years off. I know somebody who was joking that, Chad,
I saw that, but I'm like, two years that's probably accurate.
How long was Becky off for.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I don't know, like he probably like a year and
a half or so.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Yeah, you're six hours fucking dirty.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Which I must also say with with when Becky went
out and when Becky was gone, and uh, not that
this is any my business, not that I really know
fully you're have an understanding of this. I think Becky
had a little bit of a rough time physically coming
back because I remember at the time too, she would
and this is like not secret information, she would post

(59:42):
videos and shit of herself and Instagram stories where she
was like in and out of the hospital all the time,
and she'd post it and I'm like, why is she
doing that?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Like that?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
That confused me. I remember at the time, like.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
We talked about it, Hey didn't didn't we believe that
she might have had some PPD.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I don't know something something was up. I mean, I
wouldn't have been shocked if once again, I mean, this
is none of my fucking business. No, I would know
it's not. Yeah, I wouldn't have been shocked if she
had like gestational diabetes or something like that, because you
just saw like the health was obviously off and somebody
would say, you know, oh well that she got diabetes

(01:00:23):
she's a fucking athlete or blah blah blah blah blah. Dude,
that doesn't mean anything. Like I've known women who were
pregnant who were like one hundred and fifteen hundred and
twenty pounds when they got pregnant, and they still got
gestational diabetes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Like, yeah, body goes through havoc. You know, like my
mother is. My mother lost all of her fucking teeth
after she had me, you know what I mean, Like
I just took all that because you were a giant
baby and just punching them out. Give me care. I
just wanted all the calousium.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Just give it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, aneed unneeded to calcium.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
A light baby, dude. I was only eleven, was eleven
pounds nine ounces, so it was a small baby, dude.
Eleven yeah, eleven pounds nine ounces, just normal normal Asian child.
Come on, you gotta think your sound like fucking dirty.
You were a brisket Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Free smoked baby.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
We have the mirrors, so ship I like the idea.
Oh my god, I like the idea.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
He went eleven pounds.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
Your mom was pushing so hard that the teeth fell out,
pushing just like and the teeth like fucking brend and
stimpy style of animation, justly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Cracking and ship. Yeah, oh my god, dude, circus just
flying out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
You know what the no one, no one could take
away how american you are to be born a giant
baby and also being like you were the size of
a brisket. It's like, yeah, you, who's beating you with that?

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Oh I don't Oh, I don't know you. I was
born smoked meats. I was born to beef. Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Oh god, I thought the audio dropped. It's kind of
light around this time too, where it goes to ship
every week. I don't know why. It's right. It doesn't
even matter how.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
That was Monday Night Raw. We do have Saturday Night's
main event that's coming up on Saturday on November one. Damn.
I mean the chances I know the next Saturday go
figure uh Salt Lake City. We got four matches supposedly
gonna be on the card, but obviously card subjects to change.

(01:03:12):
We'll see what happens. Friday, we got the Icy Championship
match Joe Dominic Mysterio versus Penta versus russev.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Uh man, I don't know what they Honestly, this is
a good match because I don't know what they're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
To have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I assume Dom's gonna retain, but also at the same
exact time, he could fucking lose it real easily here, right,
And you know what, I like it for the main
reason that I have no fucking clue what could happen here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I think it's gonna be interference. I think they're gonna
push forward with the loos Americanos versus uh and and
make the the weird tandem tag team of Henta and
Russava thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
How far out is live from coming back?

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I don't know. Didn't she have Liken on the shelf
or something like that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's wait a second, They're
not going to have her show up at a random
made of Saturday made event, you know what. I like
the idea of And I saw somebody hinting at it online.
What if it turned out that Raquel and domre we're
hooking up?

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Yeah, I mean has happened where that would.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Be a thing? I thought that was kind of a
unique because if you notice all the time, Riquel's kinda
you know, you could say, Oh, she's trying to help
live or whatever, but she's always kind of you know,
cockblocking a little bit there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, you know, because she wants a play. Yeah, that's her.
Maybe that's her Man. I like the idea of dominicciting
though with Los Americanos. So I really like the idea
of a stable of him leaving the judgment day and
then joining, you know, Grande Americano and Bravo and DuPont joining,

(01:05:10):
joining a Caucasian.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Faction, and then him the whole time can sit there
and be like leading, like lending them credence by being like,
I don't know what you're talking about. These guys are
true blue, you know, these are die like die in
the wool latinos. I don't know what you guys mean, Like,
you know, you people can say whatever you want about them,
but like you're disrespecting my people like that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Could well, we fantasy booked this a while back when
they did the World's Collide. That wouldn't it be great
if they had, you know, Grande Americano and Dominic mystereo
kind of doing the rounds in Mexico on behalf of
WWE as the major heels and so This almost feels
like a natural collision together, no put intended, where you
can have this new stable joining up and then wreaking

(01:05:59):
half in Mexico as the heels for WWE, you know,
like I don't know it just it feels like a
good fit. And with the way that ww is really
proud of doing their international shows and scraping everybody else's
wallet across the planet, I would assume that this might
be the natural progression for things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Well, do you know what will be interesting? And boy,
this is almost too mean even for me. When the
day comes where they take the mass off the fucking
Tyler Bait and Pete Dunn and the people go, who
the fuck is that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
No, I think it's gonna see. Now the smart the
smart money would be Joey. You replace them and have
them pull the masks off of two guys that look
nothing like them. That just happened to me, Mexican, that happened.
I am, I Am, I am Petro.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Yeah, And then people go, how dare you ever doubt them?
That's right, right, you know, just why would you ever
doubt that that would be them?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
I think Dominic, I think Dominic retains though, I think
you gotta stick with Dominic. I'd like to see Penta
Russ get the wind, but man, I don't see anybody else.
I don't see Dominic losing it. I just don't. I know,
you're in the free falls. Anything can happen. But man,
he looks good with two belts. I mean, he doesn't
look as good as Mercedes Moune with four hundred and

(01:07:30):
thirty one belts, but yeah, he's close. He's close. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
If only we could get a belt to cover her
face and mouth, oh it's getting there, that would be
an improvement, you know what I mean? By the way,
and I was, you know, I hate to fucking go
off on a tangent about this, but I think that
it's kind of an interesting point that I stumbled across.
I saw the shit with Mercedes, and she comes out
now with she has a bunch of guy's like wearing

(01:07:55):
her belts and shit, and I know that this boy,
this was seriously hurt the assholes of man titted out
fucking anime blurts. But has she ever been like a
sexual character ever? I mean she's been the I wear

(01:08:16):
the little shorts and I shake my ass and shit,
but like, has she ever been the character where you're
like she's got like trying to fuck all the guys
or being like overly sexy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
So it's like a really odd choice for her to
do that. It's a reflection of money. It's a reflection
of money. Money is power. Power is all the gold,
power is all the boys like's But is it though?
I mean, I'm just it isn't. But I think that
that's what it's supposed to represent. Is money supposed to

(01:08:50):
represent the status?

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I mean, I barely watching the aw show. I mean,
is she coming out with these guys and like running
her finger over their chin ends and kind of like
touching their abs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Or what kind of guy you'd like to have multiple chins?
That'd be great Asians? You say, oh, this Asian chin,
this Asian chin.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
This. I was gonna say, she's already she's already gone
through that in her life. Now now she's onto husky,
handsome Latino man apparently, well you know whatever, that's apparently
your thing, which dude, like I said, I don't. I
never saw her as that type of character, So it's
kind of fucking weird. But even at one point when

(01:09:34):
like Carmela was that kind of gimmick. Yeah, well, I
mean just just kind of being like, uh, I don't know.
It just doesn't match. It just doesn't match that whole character.
It's like if you had the dude where it's like, okay,
we all know the Rick flair, the Rick rude to
look at my abs, guy, the look how fucking sexy

(01:09:57):
I am. Guy. It's like there's at least an and
I'd hate for somebody to be like, oh cause you go,
how many dude wrestlers are just not that are not
the guys that you look at, And it's like is
this supposed to be funny? You know, like is it
supposed to be a joke that the guy would do that,
like if he came out with a bunch of hot
girls on his arm or something like. I don't I

(01:10:20):
don't get.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
That make more sense if she had other wrestlers holding
her belts, like Indie, yeah you know what I mean,
then that shows more of the prestige and she can
treat them like boy toys. But you're right, she's not
an overly seductress type vibe. She doesn't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
So yeah, you're well, I mean having the personality of
a rock that doesn't help either. And I, like I said,
I can only imagine the people. But what do you say,
she stop gooloking? You say she's stock sixy. It's like, dude,
there's plenty of people who are attractive and have nice
bodies and are good looking, but they're not vavavom. And

(01:11:04):
that's dudes too. There's dudes that are like, they're good
looking dudes, but there's a reason why, like the world's
sexiest man you know comes out, and it's like, it's
not always necessarily the best looking guy. You know, all
the women that want to fuck that dude lip from
Shameless who is playing fucking Bruce Springsteen and ship like,
that's not a guy that's you're looking at go and

(01:11:27):
that's a male model, but people want to fuck him. Personality,
it's a different thing. It's a different thing. Remember when
Adam Drives. Remember when women wanted a fuck Adam Driver?
Oh chins, sorry, no, yeah, figure that one out. Was
Adam Driver, the guy you look at him and go,

(01:11:48):
that's a good looking No.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
People just say they just wanted him to use the
force to choke him. That's all they wanted. That's fetishists.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Yes, they're like, can you like kill me. He's like,
that's a character in a movie. Im not gonna kill here. God,
this where fucking world pussy. Why do you kill me?
He's like, that's not really who are her? It's a film?

(01:12:22):
Oh my god, my cat's following out of the tree.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
All right, So we got the fuck else is happening
on this Saturday Women's Championship match between Tiffany Stratton and
Jade Cargill.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Whoop that ought to be a fucking great man who
put that down on paper and said, fuck yeah, who
did that? Shame dude, that's that's chat e b T.
That's gotta be chat e B T. No.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Sure, Triple H and the creative team really studied it
and like, wow, you know what would be great right now?
You have the powerhouse Jade Cargle versus Tiffany Stratton, the
champion who she's still young but she's hungry and she's
the champion, and they're gonna go out there and have
a great match. You know what, They're gonna steal the show.
That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
I think that you were in this moment. If you're
a Triple H, you're whomever you're looking at them and
saying last fucking chance, because if it ain't, then I
don't know why you'd book this otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
I think they should have saved this for the next
Saturday night's main events, the one where John Cena retires,
just to steal the show, just to steal this. Oh
my god.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I think they should have fucking save this for I
don't know, fucking cutting room floor.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I don't wow.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
I think they should have saved this for Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Maybe this is just a squish squish match, Joe. This
is just for those fans that want to see Tiffany
Stratton and Jade Cargill's will struggle. Struggle struggle, that's struggle. Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
I got a thing about muscular women really struggling.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
And looking if you dude, noting nothing. It works for
Jordan Grace.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
I mean, you know, I like the idea that would be, like, listen,
I am specifically into attractive women looking like deer in headlights. Muscular, muscular,
attractive women looking confused and lost.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
That's my thing. Uh yeah, I try to write that
like my fat life profile.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
You know, people like I like to dress like a dog,
and you're like, what do you like to do? I
like to wash muscular women look confused and lost. That's
my favorite thing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Indeed, I'm gonna go with the Tiffany Stratton retains as well.
Yeah sure, why not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Guess give us a ship. You put the belt on
Jade Cargile, it's a fucking disaster. You leave the belt
on the little blonde girl, It's a fucking disaster.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
This is terrible, terrible fucking booking.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Like I said, this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Should this should stink of the last fucking chance. If
you go out there and lay an egg, whomever it is.
If Jade goes out there and lays an egg here,
you walk in papers. If Tiffany goes out and lays
an egg, you say, well, it looks like Charlotte's getting
the belt back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
I finished my thought, though, because people are already freaking out.
Sean's already saying turning Jade just to have her lose Wolf. Look,
I'm not saying so she's I think Jade is absolutely
going to lose the match, But I think she's going
to have an aftermatch beat down on Tiffany. She's going
to really fucking snap her shit. And I think that

(01:15:46):
that's the story they're gonna tell with Jade is that
she's just as unhinged as Naomi, et cetera, et cetera.
I still think everything is very centric to Naomi with her,
because that's the only personality Jade had, was the one
that she had when she was with Naomi. Other than that,
there's really not much going on there other than muscle
mommy stuff, right, So I think it's going to be

(01:16:06):
one of those scenes that Tiffany ends up still winning somehow,
some way, and she has that moment and Jade fucking
snaps and kicks the shit out of her some more.
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
But yeah, well somebody, by the way, somebody just asked.
They were like, what's fat life. Well, you see, it's
a place for the people that were neglected as children
and congress people to meet with each other and find
what makes them happy in a constructive manner, which, by
the way, I just it's a joke because I don't

(01:16:40):
even fucking know that for sure, but I'm sure that
that's a thing that somebody's into there. It's confused Jade
Cargo matches, but yeah, who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Who cares? We got the WWE Championship match. And disputed
Cody versus Drew.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
This this will be fine. I mean, I like I
like Drew, but it's like, you know, he's not winning
what Drew. Yeah, Drew's Drew at this point is just
even bigger, more jacked l a night. That's what we've
made Drew into. You're just like, we're like, man, I

(01:17:21):
really hope and he loses. Man, be really cool I
Drew and he's done, right, Like, what am I gonna do?
Am I supposed to get excited for another Drew McIntyre
fucking loss, six inches taller than everybody and can talk
better than all of them and has good fucking matches,
and like, once again another dude who's into his forties.

(01:17:41):
Fucking TikTok, Dude, these guys are either gonna do something
with them or whatever. They're just never going to fucking
amount to much. But is he gonna beat Cody now?

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Of course not? Of course, not fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Care if anything, These types of spots your Saturday night
main events. This type of shit, that's where a ROUCEP
should beat fight, right, that's what you use a RUSSEV for.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
But they are so desperate to get people, Joe that
every single match on this Saturday night's main event is
a title match, every single one. The next match we
have is the World Heavyweight Championship match between siampunka Jay Huso,
another title match. Everything is a fucking title match. So yeah,
you're right, this would be better to have a Russev

(01:18:25):
versus Drew McIntyre match, absolutely, But they are so desperate
to get people's eyes on this that they're going to
make every fucking match have penalties or consequences if somebody
wins or loses.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
So well, I mean, I also would be fine with
Russev versus Cody, Like I'm just saying, like, right right,
you know, like because Russev at this point, it's like
if Russev went out there and had a good fifteen
to twenty minute long fight with Cody, he loses nothing,
He just came back, you know, it is what the
fuck it is. But Drew at this point is just
a fucking jobber to the stars whuch as. I hate

(01:19:00):
terms like that, but that's what he is. He goes
out there and gets bummed out by every fucking person,
never wins, and it's like for what for what? But
I guess we also have to talk about like you said,
the World Heavyweight title match, where it's just like this
is kind of lose lose because who really wants to
see Jay with the belt again?

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
I don't care?

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
And if Punk wins, it feels almost anti climactic because
Punk's supposed to have a real big moment winning on
Saturday main events, like all right, oh, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
So he did a video on WWE's YouTube channel where
he's talking about it, reflecting on his tour of Japan
and stuff, and during it he said, I'm standing here now,
you know, towards the end of my career, scene's hanging
it up. Aj Styles says he's going to retire next year.
I don't know how long I've got. I'm going to
go to the wheels fall off, and I just know
that sooner than later. So it's important, I think, for

(01:19:57):
all of us, not just myself, to celebrate all the
wrestlers as they retire. There's a whole new crop of
people coming up to take our spots, and I think
we're anxiously awaiting that to happen. In some respects, Boy,
I got some news for you, Punk. No, they ain't.
I mean, I think there's a few I don't think

(01:20:18):
that's entirely untrue. There's still some absolute NXT prospects that
can do something. And some of the younger guys that
they have in WWE right now, some of them they're
not cook a little more.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
But but yeah, they need They're not catching punk anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
I mean, really, that's Dominic. Honestly, Dominic is the only
one I see as being the next generation's biggest superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Well, Dom's just so fucking just apt at whatever it
is he chooses to do. I mean, is dom going
to ever be a punk type promo now? Even guys
that I like down there, like young people putting up
like Oba, I love, but Oba's still fucking years out
from being that big of a star too. And he's good.

(01:21:05):
Oba's fucking good, but he's also been wrestling for a
handful of years. He needs a lot of time to cook.
Same thing with Bron needs a lot of time to cook.
So I'm not saying that these people are, you know,
doomed and dead as a fucking doornail and there's no
chance for them to be able to blah blah blah
blah blah. But I'm not seeing with my mind's eye

(01:21:28):
anybody that's gonna challenge Punk as far as being a
main event performer who can talk and work and have
matches in the next two to three years, and that's
I don't see that being a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
And also, by the way, too, if this is the
whole thing with Punky and like, yeah, I could be
done in a year, then please, for the love of
fucking Christ, get him away from Seth Rollins enough. Thank
god's it's oh boy, thank god Seth is hurt dot
dot dot, because we would still be having to waste
the last year and a half of this guy's career
fighting the same fucking idiot over and over again, right

(01:22:07):
like Punk should be. And also, by the way, I
serve Jay Uso into that fuck fucking needs Why why
is he wrestling jay Uzzo?

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Who gives you say, Jimmy's I think there's something brewing
with Jimmy though too, because both of us have talked
about it. I've heard other people talk about it too.
I think overall the consensus is as people expect jim
to eventually snap or or finally shed his skin from
being one of the usos to being his own man finally,

(01:22:35):
and maybe if they give him a live mic and
let him kind of just flow with it. He can
produce better promos and get the audience more invested in
Jim's career than even Jay USO's, who Jay just relied
on some dancing and some music and some chanting in
order to get his career over. I think you can
easily attach something like that to Jim, but I don't think.
I don't think he even needs it. I think the

(01:22:57):
guy is capable of doing something more. So, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
I think that at this point, the majority of the
Samoan guys that they got right now, with the exception
of Jacob Fatu, who I guess he's out there. It's
so funny because it's like these people all have serious
fucking injuries and get hurt all the time, and they're like,
oh yeah, man, it's kind of crazy right now. Uh

(01:23:21):
you know, he's out for a bit and it's like
what happened with him? And he's like, I go fix
his TV's. His TV's are bad, and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
that's possible because he was just like he was a
poor guy who was in and out of jail. It's like, hey,
probably fucking has some backed up dental work that could
fuck him up for a month or so if not,

(01:23:42):
give or take. But honestly, I guess with the exception
of you know what, maybe I do got to take
that back because I could see Jacob Fatu becoming a
real legitimate start.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Too, some other guy who to the audience really well. Yeah, no,
absolutely full of guys that there's something there that could work.
And maybe when aj Styles retires and John Cena retires
and see him Punk retires and Seth Rollins retires, maybe
then l A. Knight can run the run the show
for a little bit before he eventually retires when.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
He's fifty two years old. You know, oh ay night,
oh wow nights with everybody saying and that yell ll
A Knight, He's like, I can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
I'm fucking losing my hearing. Uh yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
It's I don't know. I wouldn't put I'm not pushing
all my chips in on a lot of these fucking guys,
let's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
But there is also being political too, you know what
I mean. It's it wasn't necessarily a political interview, but
he's just being a nice book. Yeah, he's a nice book.
He can't he can't say.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
What he should probably, but he would probably be saying
to anybody that actually know them personally, which is, it's
not a lot of people in this fucking company that
are close to as good as I am. That's by
a fucking lot, and that will once again hurt the
buttholes if the fucking anime man titted out fucking losers.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Oh you mean the ones that don't pay attention to
YouTube stats? Oh you mean the fans? Yes, right, Well
that's honest to god.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
I mean, doesn't this feel a little bit obvious at
this point where if you're saying to yourself, who's who's
making you money in three to five years, Jay Uso
or fucking or my boy there Jacob, who's making you
money in three three years? It's fucking Jacob, like by
a lot. And I think most people know that they're

(01:25:48):
just has it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
There's a redemption arc for Jay Husso eventually, but it
really relies on him understanding his character and being able
to completely cut a promo that absorbs the people in
the audience. And I think that the biggest problem was
will never do the biggest promos that people loved about
jay Usso were the ones that he was crying in,

(01:26:10):
which I fucking hated, but those were those were the
biggest promos that when he was crying about Gunther and
he was crying about his family and he's crying about
it's like Jesus Christ, stop doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Dude, Dude, he is Ahmed Johnson and that's being fair.
That's fair. He's crying Ahmed, That's what he is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Oh Joe, my feeling soon.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
It's like, who fucking cares?

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Who's that? Is that? Joe Cobb?

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
What is it? Oh Jeff Cobb?

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Job? What was that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Was that old Jeff cp?

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
They put face bait on him so he didn't look twelve.
Yeah that was that was actually a good choice, so
he didn't look like a little baby turtle.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Man. Uh But I now look at that and I
still don't understand the face paint. I don't understand the
face paint. It looks like he has like a a
help wanted sign that's been blacked out over his eyes
and then he's got like upwards black drool like you
just I don't know is that supposed to be a skeleton,

(01:27:19):
because that that doesn't even make sense as a skeleton.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Well, man, you just don't understand what it's like to
be Japanese. Oh well, you got to understand what it's
like to be Japanese, like all those guys on the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Yeah, all those Japanese guys named Jeff so.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Hey, old Japanese Jeff. You know what it is, Japanese
Jeff cop and his seven Samoan friends who are also
five six. Yeah, I don't know, man, It's sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
I know I feel like you'veiled that, but look, that
was it. I know I just failed you on that,
but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Yeah, it's who's excited about I, Like I said, this
is a lose lose situation, even as somebody that like,
obviously obviously I'm a a punk guy, I guess I
feel like I have no choice but to adopt that.
At this point, it seems prettymature for him to win
and jay Uso winning, it's just another Now we're gonna

(01:28:20):
talk about jay USO's feelings. I was entrance and feelings.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
I would like if that match gets erupted and nobody wins,
and then they actually have that that title match at
some other pay per view something else. What if?

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
What if Drew McIntyre just comes out afterwards and just
beats both of them up with that double d Here
Drew just comes out and just fucking ruins the whole thing.
And then maybe we have a triple threat, and then
maybe you consider giving Drew mcintione or Elle Knight whoo
there's something. Have Ellie Knight just come out and be like, hey,
you know what, fuck you, fuck all of you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
I would like that. That would be a nice swerve.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Yeah, do you think to yourself in that moment where
they would not get the desired reaction, which it would
be like, oh, hey, maybe the people will boo l
a night because they so desperately want to see Jay
So win the title or seem Punk win the title.
Instead they're like, actually, yay, well we're actually liking that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
That gets Ready to wrap it up for our raw review.
Much loved everybody in chat, much loves the people listening
live on the download and on the Patreon, Patreon dot
com Forward slash Wrestling Soup. We'll be back tomorrow night.
I'm gonna talk a little bit about Andrad Andrade has
some heartfelt comments for what people have been saying about
him on the internet. No really yeah he does. Some

(01:29:47):
some real deep thoughts from the Andrade camp.

Speaker 5 (01:29:51):
It was was he like, I saw your messages and
I must say that is too much for a kilo.
I thought, I saw your messages and I must say
I can't read them after I had them, after I

(01:30:11):
had someone to read them to me, I must say,
you hurt my feelings like Jay Usso's feelings.

Speaker 7 (01:30:18):
It's why is je utos feeling so important importante and
there's no importante for my feelings? Why does nobody care
about entrate feeling but Jay feeling gets seven month long story.
J j USO's feelings get seven hundred hours of TV time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Oh I nobody care about drade feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
You could tell I'm mad.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
Amazing my voice.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Alright, I'm gonna let you go before you kill me
all show man much love everyone, See you Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
You get about my feelings? It bees so so so
so so so so so so.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
For letters.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
Want word.

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