Nuts and Bolts Rides Again

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let's go behind the wheel, under the hood and beyond
with car stuff from house Stuff Works dot com. Welcome
the car stuff. I'm Scott Benjamin. Hey everybody, and Ben Bowland.
That's a little bit of a switch up. Yeah, this episode,
in fact, is a little bit of a switch up

(00:22):
for us, or a return to form if you will. Yeah,
isn't a switch up because this is our well, this
would be our ninth edition of this type of show,
right this format. Yeah, Yeah, this is nuts and Bolts.
Ladies and gentlemen. Listeners who have not heard one of
these episodes before, prepare yourself for a short attention span
theater of all things automotive and just about everything that

(00:44):
we cover. You know, there's either some left off information
from podcasts. There's uh, there's a little bit of listener
mail thrown in. Here's a new development after we publish something. Yeah, exactly.
There's some corrections that will make I guess along the way.
There's um just some I got a couple of surprise
is I'm gonna throw in here, here and there. I've
got about four of these things that I want to mention.
Um just man, it's just a kind of a catch

(01:07):
all show. And if you haven't heard one of these
episodes before and you want to kind of get an
idea of what they feel like before jumping right into
this one. Because and then not that there's that prerequisite
or anything, but go to go to our RSS feed
and search for Nuts and Bolts and you'll find episodes
one through eight there. Wait, and uh, they're all talk
full of the same sort of stuff exactly. Yeah, So, uh,

(01:28):
without further ado, let's get into Oh, we should also
mention that some of some of the things that we're
going to talk about are things that we think are
fascinating or interesting, but not enough to fill an entire podcast. Yeah,
there's a couple of those thrown in there as well.
And I've got just kind of a long list of
listener requests that I'm gonna sprinkle in here. Um, I

(01:49):
do want to connect. This is how I want to
start the show. Okay, a correction, my own my own stupidity, Ben.
Oh well, okay, I'm taking upon myself to say that
I made a mistake that I shouldn't have made, but
but I did, and it was recent too. Well that's
a very smart thing one all, you know, when we
were talking about pace Cars. And we got to the
two thousand thirteen edition of the Daytona five hundred pace car,

(02:13):
and I said, you know, it goes from two thousands
six with Jay Leno all the way through two thirteen
with Mark Rousse or Reese or whoever that was, right,
And I said, I don't know who that is. It's
a celebrity of some kind, right, it's a celebrity driver,
that is. And this isn't quite as bad as it
may sound initially, but that is the current president of
General Motors North America. Then, and that company goes through

(02:34):
changes like you wouldn't believe fast recently, right, because it's
not the you know, the arraw Win management pretty much
stayed in place for you know, a decade of time. Yeah, exactly,
So it doesn't it's not quite as bad as it sounds.
And that's the president of GM. However, president falls about
number four on the list of of who's who at GM,
I guess, because there's the CEO and Chairman of the board,

(02:55):
there's the CFO, the GM Vice chairman, and then the
GM North American President and who is Mark? And uh,
I just didn't keep up with who who's the fourth
in line there at GM. So my mistake. I thought
it was maybe an actor of some kind, but it
turns out it's the the president of General Motors, a
name that you would think that we would know. But
then again, fourth and fourth in the chain of command,

(03:17):
and you know all the changes. It was an easy
mistake to make at the time. I guess, well, I
personally's got I'm just so behind on celebrities. I'm always
out of the loop when my friends are talking about
films or actors. I don't really know. We've you know,
we've talked about that in the past when we try
to identify actors in certain movies that we recommend and

(03:38):
we have no idea. So do you feel do you
feel a little better with it off your chest? I
feel I feel like I've gotten that off my chest.
I feel better about it now. Okay, and uh, it
speaks volumes to your character, my friend. Thank you, sir. Okay,
I would like to start after your correction here. I
want to do something that we've never really had the
chance to do, and that is to talk about flops,

(04:01):
bad cars lemons. Because no, you and I have talked
about this before, and we always agreed that it's a
little bit too negative to be the subject of an
entire episode. Yeah, we focused on maybe some flops, right
or something. You know, they make lists and and you
know who makes the list. That's the other thing is
who's who's calling this car flop? Other people will call

(04:22):
it a collectible. Yes, yes, and uh, there's uh, there's
some great uh, there's some great writing here. But what
I have is a article with the greatest automotive flops
of the last twenty five years. And they say that
a flop. I I appreciated. This is why I chose
this one. A flop is not necessarily a bad car.

(04:46):
Bad cars can come and go all the time. Um,
but flops are something more and it's kind of a
perfect storm of bad luck, bad planning, and perhaps engineering.
Now you said years, that's uh boy, that's that's relatively recent,
right because a lot of the lists you'll see we'll
go back to, you know, the ed Sel, and we'll
go back to the Caser and vehicles like that. So, um,

(05:08):
what have you got? Well, uh, what do you think
about the vector, Scott? The vector that didn't make the
rest did it? Yeah? What a cool looking car that is? Yeah? Yeah,
the Vector made the list UM and Jeremy Clarkson called
it very probably the worst car in the entire world.
Oh man, okay, there's a there's I don't know, there's

(05:28):
there's sort of a cool angle to this thing. I mean,
it's a it's a neat looking car. It's kind of
fun to see one rolled out. Maybe it looks really cool,
maybe the concourse a vent or something like that, where
you know, this prototype comes out. But um man, I
don't know. Well. The first the first Vector um the
concept was the W two, and then the first one
they sold it was the W eight and only um

(05:51):
twenty two cars were built. They didn't sell too well.
Clarkson is and and Vector is still around. Clarkson was
referring to excuse me to the Lamborghini you powered in twelve.
Here's another one, the Sterling Sterling. Okay, by that the
first the first sentence says, leave it to the Brits
to flopify anything even remotely identifiable as a Honda product,

(06:15):
which is rough Chrysler's TC by Maserati. Oh yes, yes, yes, now,
I had a former boss who spent a lot of
time and money restoring a TC to original condition. Restoring, yes,
And I mean he took it to a place where
you know, the guy would work on it at night
in his garage, and you know, every little nut and

(06:35):
bolt was polished back to its original polish or original condition.
And um, a lot of money and time in it,
and he loved the car. But I wouldn't have spent
a lot of time doing that, Maserati. I would have
spent it on more like on a on a bora
or something like that. And uh, there was there's a
quotation here which we're gonna censor because it's not entirely
appropriate for all our audience members. Uh. It's a bumper

(06:58):
sticker seen on a Chrysler to see by Maserati in Berkeley, California,
and it says, my other Mileserati is also a piece
of um. And so the next one there would be
the Super s v X. What do you think, Oh,
come on, yeah, this list. I've got a real problem
with this list. This. Uh, the sv X, that's kind
of a cool car. I saw one about a year

(07:20):
and a half ago, I think here in Atlanta. That's
one with the little half windows, right. But the unfortunately
they a lot of people thought the styling was okay,
you know what, You're right. All of these are cars
that just didn't sell too well, didn't didn't realize the flop.
It's not necessarily that they're bad cars from an engineering perspective,
although that could happen, Like with the Maserati car, I'm

(07:41):
getting I'm a little slopan No, No, you're you're you're
you're a quick, quick person, your nimble and uh so. Also,
let's keep in mind that the s v X was
grand in two so the day. If you're gonna spend
that much money, you want to have the perfect car.
Um Jaguar X type they say that this um now

(08:03):
the X type. Okay, the all wheel drive, right, yeah, yeah, okay,
I buy that. Yeah. Don't see a lot of those around, right.
Chrysler Crossfire, Yeah I could see that too, didn't didn't
really go anywhere with it. That was a cool design though. Yeah.
Our buddy Matt, who's a co host of stuff that
once you know it drives across fire. You know, the

(08:23):
the guy with the Maserati that I'm telling you about. Yeah,
my former boss he had one. He had a crossfire
also when they were brand new. Oh man, um so
in the second year cross fire production, Chrysler resorted to
dumping excess inventory on overstock dot Com. Really, yeah, then
I'll just go through the next once quickly dodged Durango Hybrid,

(08:45):
the Chrysler Aspen Hyber. Yeah, okay, those are too big
to be hybrids. Lincoln Blackwood Yep, yep. Too expensive for
what it was, your refined taste. Here's a Lincoln F
one fifty basically, yeah, and it had pin striping, right,
it had like a crazy pin stripe design, not just
one pin stripe. I mean it had pin striping like
a suit, multiple pin stripes in the back end. It

(09:08):
was just kind of it was very expensive. Well, it
reminds me of brand solution ideas, and it also reminds
me of the there's a there's a question here, should
a luxury car maker like Lincoln make a pickup truck? True,
that's supposed to get dirty and whole stuff GMC envoy
XUV and uh the shovel that's the one that the

(09:32):
top opened up on, right, Yeah, I think I remember that. Yeah,
I was. I was working as a contractor for GM
at that time, and they and they we did training
videos on that how to fix that thing. And that
was crazy pick up slash. Yeah, it had like a
back end that would completely open up. But um, there
was a trick to it. I mean you have to
look that one up to see the operation to really
get it. But that was that was trouble for service guys. Uh.

(09:56):
And then there's the Chevrolet ss R. Okay, I passed
it to you, all right, So let's do some some
listener email rapid player here and I won't go through
too many of these right now. We'll get back to
it maybe. Um. Gary Gary from from Facebook says that
he saw Kat M Crossbow that was at Road America

(10:17):
recently and said that after listening to the podcast, he
didn't he realized that he shouldn't be calling an ex BO.
So he he felt like he was in the no,
I guess because of our podcast. So how's yeah, thank you,
And just to react to that, I'm on team Gary.
You can't be blamed for you. Gary, don't beat yourself up. Yeah,
it looks like you should say XBO. It does look

(10:37):
like EXBO instead of crossbow. But but I'm glad we
could help you out. Gary, made you look like a good,
good guy at the track, right alright, so here's one
from Adrian and uh, let's see Adrian suggests kick cars. Um,
and we have a lot of kit car fans. Adrian
has a replica of a nineteen Porscheaus Speedster UM in

(10:58):
the home state account in his home state of californ
that's registered as a special construction vehicle. However, they're changing
around the rules so that you're not able to register
the car based on the donor vehicle, so instead of
you know, being a special construction vehicle. Um, and it's
you know, it's no longer in nineteen six VW Beetle. Uh.

(11:18):
They've got this this new insurance issue that's going on
that may you know, kind of throw things that throw
a twist into this whole thing. So, um, we'll have
to dig into that. But we've got a few suggestions
here for kick cars, so I think that's one that
we're gonna follow up on for sure. Yeah, and we
have a listener named Luke that that has mentioned kick
cars a few times, and I think Luke is the

(11:39):
one with the car that looks like the Lotus seven.
You're not sure what brand of that one is, but
I'll have to look that up again. Um, we've got
to write messenger from Rudy Smith. Now, Rudy is the
guy that told me about the microcar Museum closing. Oh yeah,
famous famously or infamously save my butt on seeing that,
because that was that was really cool on the last weekend. Now,

(12:00):
he also was the the um suggestor I guess of
the Ed Roth podcast, and he wanted to thank us
for doing that because we he said he did a
great job with that and that he listened to that
over his recent most current road trip, which is about
eighty hours of driving. Then that's a long road trip,
eighty hours of driving, So that's a that's a good one.

(12:21):
And he had another suggestion. Rudy did um something about
a cold dust powered GM factory built seventy eight Cadillac.
Oh yeah, I remember, I remember reading this email. These
are these are Cadillacs that are powered by coal dust
and um man, I'm gonna have to look into that,
but I guess there were some other cold dust burning
cars that were used during World War Two in Brazil.

(12:44):
Um that you know, they've got this great big hopper
rapper at us that where we're like, I think he
mentioned where a rumble seat would be in those early Um,
so we'll look into that too, Rudy, because that's interesting.
I've got some Tesla news, okay, when yeah, uh, well,
now you heard. I have a couple of pieces of
Tesla news for you, buddy. Uh Now you've heard what

(13:07):
I also heard, right, and I think, and that is
that the electric car company Tesla has paid off it's
federal loan. That's four hundred and sixty five million dollars.
They've paid it off completely and almost a decade early.

(13:28):
That is pretty awesome. That's really good. And isn't that
the first company that's received a loan in this uh,
in this this type of loan, the first company to
have paid off the loan in full, I believe. So
that's really great. I mean, it's good for them. Now.
That's because the Model S is just to be completely honest,
the Models is a hell of a car. It's it's

(13:48):
kicking ass right now. It's selling a lot of cars.
And we've talked about this before. You know, I'm you
know me, I'm not a hybrid fan, not an electric fan.
I do like the Tesla design, I really do. I
like I like the roadster of course, and there's some
great things about that. I really like seeing the S
on the S model on the road. It's a beautiful car.

(14:09):
So so I say, good for Tesla, that's excellent. I
hope they keep I hope they keep going this way. Yeah,
and you know that I am often skeptical about hybrids,
but I love I love the idea of a viable
electric car that, you know, that doesn't have some of
the same problems. You know, I'm so cheap man. I'm

(14:29):
hesitant to buy a new technology until I see that
it has been proven. You know, it's a good looking car.
It is a good looking car. I better start saving
my my pennies. But Motor Trend Car the Year, I
think is that the one consumer consumer our Motive gave
it well ten out of ten or something like that.
And they had we talked about that because they had

(14:50):
some quotation on their in their review where they said,
is this the best car ever? We don't know, but
it's pretty close the best one they've ever tested, right,
they've tested, which is amazing for you know, consumer reports
to say something like that. So, um, a couple more emails, Yeah,
really quick. Okay, So we've got one here from Richard

(15:11):
and Richard wrote in about um the Bond car. Um.
He oh, this is Richard, the the guy with the
drove the nine rolls. Remember the story about yeah, the
problem and how he had a hard time keeping it
on the road because he was on the right hand
side driving and that whole mix sense that was funny. Um.
He saw the Bond car at the Los Angeles, California show,

(15:35):
the car show, the uh dB eight. Yeah, that's the
one I think with the machine guns blow the headlights
and the bullet holes in the windshield and all that stuff.
You know, so that the ben Hers style wheel skye
that come out those are so cool. But he sent
us some good photos of that, so thank you, um
Richard for that. I appreciate it. Um. Oh, here's just

(15:55):
a quick one and this is actually just to mention
I want to make uh. This guy is a male
warrior UM from West Virginia. His name is Eric Stone,
and he says he's a mail carrier that listens to
our podcast while he carries mail. UM always enjoys it.
And he just saw a list of really listed he
thought we would like. It's called the Leaven of the
Baddest cars from classic movies and that sounds right up

(16:18):
our alley. So I did take a look at the
list and then it's a it's a good list. So
we should maybe sometime revisit our movie car podcast because
this one had some fantastic ideas in it. So thank you, Eric,
I appreciate it. And uh, I don't know, stay stay
dry out there carrying the mail. I don't know, what
do you say? Stay cool summertime? Yeah, and uh, thank
you for bringing the mail. I think that I think

(16:40):
that mail carres don't get the credit they deserve. Absolutely
to be honest with you, and thank you Eric. And
you know it's too well man, if you called the
movie car thing. Um may I interject with the other
piece of Tesla news. Yes, why not? Okay? So Tesla
hasn't just paid off their loan early. They have also
hired Austin Martin's vehicle engineering leader. So they hired chief

(17:05):
engineer vehicle engineering from Aston Martin Chris Port to be
their new VP of engineering. So he's the guy who
uh was chief engineer for Aston Martin's won seven seven supercar.
Uh yeah, and he's been doing this for um twenty
five years. I'm sorry this being automotive engineering and he

(17:27):
joined Aston Martin in ninety seven. Um, that's where he
brought the engineering stuff in house. Uh. They also did
some of the architecture for dB nines the v T
Well Vantage. Um. He was at land Rover before that.
And uh, I think that that is sort of a
not to read too much into it, Scott, but that's

(17:49):
kind of a statement of intent, isn't it. Definitely. Yeah,
so they're they're making plans for the future there, that's
for sure. Yeah. I don't think we're gonna see Tesla
in a bond in a bond car role yet, No,
probably not. I mean they can't. They can't mess with
the Aston Martins. Now, I think that's gotta that's gotta
remain a tradition. So all right, Yeah, this is I've
got one of these, uh, one of these little facts

(18:10):
here that I want to bring you throughout the podcast.
Now I've got four of these that I want to mention,
and this is number one. This is number one right here. Um.
I guess we could just called like little known car
facts or something like that, because there's a few things
here and there that are kind of interesting that I've
gathered up along the way. Now we talked about Grand
pre cars, right, um, and we talked about Formula one cars.
This goes back to the Grand Prix racers. Um. Specifically, uh,

(18:34):
the Auto Union race cars that I mentioned that I
love so much, the ninety nine Auto Union Auto Union cars. Um.
If you need to take a look at the photo
of those things that they're gorgeous. They're like a great
big tube where the drivers at the front and huge
supercharged V sixteen in the back. So these enormous engines
right now, they're extremely complicated machines, as you can imagine. Um,

(18:57):
But just how complicated Ben, this is. This is where
this little fact comes. Oh yeah, that's part. I know.
How complicated are they? Thank you the This is like
a seventies game show. Um, so complicated that the crank now,
imagine this, the crank shaft alone, just the crank chafts
at the bottom end of the engine normally a single
single piece, a single item, a monolithic design, over one

(19:21):
thousand parts alone in the crank shaft crank cheft. And
I know a lot of listeners are scratching their head
right now thinking there's no way, how how could you
construct a crank shaft? Now, this is a V sixteen
an enormous, enormous engine, huge supercharged engine. But the crank
shaft alone, which again in most modern cars, is a
single piece design. It's either forged, it's either cast or

(19:45):
maybe even sometimes machine from like a big billet piece
of steel or whatever it is. Um some you know,
some can be assembled from a couple of pieces, but
not one thousand pieces been. This is over a thousand
pieces in just the crank chieft. So I thought that
was something that was worth mentioning because I don't think
a lot of listeners probably know that. I had no idea,

(20:06):
and I'm a fan of that type of car. Yeah,
I did not know that at all. That's extremely complied,
that is little known. I'd love to see some schematics.
I have seen something similar that nothing detailed, of course.
I mean there's nothing that really lays it all out,
because I don't think there's any kind of owners manual
for I mean shop manual for this type of type
of vehicle. It's more like, um, you know, here's a

(20:27):
shot of it, and you can't quite get an idea
of exactly where all the one thousand pieces lay in
that design. There's no one thousand crank cheft pieces for dummies.
I know nothing like that, but still I thought that
was a cool fact. Uh, And I've got some cool
things here. Some of our Facebook fans wrote in with us.

(20:48):
Bruce wrote in to say, on the subject of loophole vehicles,
I can name a couple that the great state of
Alabama allows. And these are some things with law. Okay,
so uh one, says Bruce. The earliest you can legally
drive a car alone is sixteen, but you can get
a motorcycle license at fifteen as long as it's under

(21:08):
two hundred c c. That's relatively small for motorcycle, but
it is powerful enough to get in some serious mischief.
And then number two, if both your parents are legally blind,
you can get a full driver's license at fifteen, which,
if you think about it, makes sense. I think because
you're helping your parents. And that's Uh. That that was

(21:31):
I think a great thing to bring up. I want
to thank Bruce for that. Also, I believe we already
we already mentioned Aaron Cooper's earlier um earlier note about
golf carts at loophole vehicles. Yea, So the loophole vehicle
stuff goes back to our Swedish a Tractors episode, which
was a lot of fun to do. Um, I've got

(21:53):
something here from Glenn Beck. I don't know. Ye See,
we were talking about this, Glenn. I hope you're listening
because we were trying to figure out if you were
that Glenn Beck. It's probably not that Glen Beck, but
it's uh, it's the Glenn Beck, the car stuff listener. Yeah,
that's that's the Glenn Beck you are to us, buddy,

(22:13):
and uh, either way, we're thrilled that you're listening to
the show. Uh. So, Glenn writes to us and says,
I haven't heard you discuss gimmick road rallies for charity.
I'm sure there are several organizations that do this sort
of thing. Here's some info and one I've become involved with.
The group is Rally North America, and the rally format
is a three day scavenger hunt on wheels by eight

(22:34):
teams of enthusiasts and their rides. Each day includes an
off road activity, a dozen scenic or historic checkpoints, a
few hundred miles of some North America's most scenic highways,
and then they also have a lot of performance cars
in there. Uh. There are all there's a range of cars,
he says. You know they've got Mustangs, Corvettes, Vipers, but

(22:56):
they also have Corvet's Escorts, Prius even a smart car. Uh,
Speedings discouraged UM And so he's making a point here
with UM. The the ultimate end game of the rally
New England. Uh, it is to raise eighty thousand dollars
for a police called Camp Sunshine, and the mission of

(23:17):
Camp Sunshine is to provide professional assistance in respite for
a terminally ill child and their immediate family. Very good cause.
Now you said he wanted to raise eighty thousand this
year for this camp. Now you think that's an awful
lot of money for a charity road rally to to raise.
But the previous year they raised seventy thousand dollars for
a UM the Accelerated Cure Project from multiple sclerosis. So uh,

(23:39):
this is a tried and true UM method for them
to raise money for great causes. And it's not anything
like a it's not like a cannonball run you know,
under under the under the law. I think this is
this is all on the level. And as they've mentioned,
you know there's Speedings discouraged and you know it's it's
all on board. You know, it's all on on the
top level. I guess. Oh, he also wanted to, uh

(24:03):
give him a shout out and let's do Let's go
ahead and do this, Uh, Glenn a big shout out
to you in your two thousand six legend Lime mustange
gt uh and go team limber Um. Thank you for
writing us such an inspiring suggestion. And I really would
love to cover charity rallies in the future. Very cool.
I hope some of our listeners look into that and

(24:23):
and maybe make a donation or even participate, So that
would be that'd be a lot of fun. What do
you see, boy, what don't I have? I've got a
ton of stuff here. We've got something from Simon Burke
who's from Again we've talked about Simon before, We've had
he's even made some suggestions here. But oh eight tractors.
That was That was UM from Oma, North Ireland. And

(24:44):
I'm saying that right again, as said last time, thank
you for telling us how to North Ireland. UM. He
talks about the runaway diesel and he's had first hand
experience with this UM and the way that he handles
it as he has stalled the engine. Um, let's see
when the runaway starts, he turned the key off, so
the car is off or you know it will be off.
Dip the clutch, select the highest gear you have, and

(25:05):
instead of trying to accelerate like normal, you stand as
hard as you can on the brake and then release
the clutch. And that's the other way. So I had
mentioned you starve it for air, and that works, but
that's an extremely dangerous thing to do because you have
to get reached under the hood. Like that YouTube video
the guy who has the engine just mounted. Yeah, just
open air engine, not attached to anything, and it starts

(25:25):
to have the diesel runaway problem and then he just
stuffs that ragg and he's quick enough to think to
put I think it could put a piece of wood
over and eventually suck that thing into it too, because
it was a lot of power. But um, anyways, he said,
the idea is to stall the engine, and you can
do this from inside the cab, which is much better
than actually reaching your arms and face under there. So

(25:46):
thank you again, Simon, appreciate that. Um. John Headley, Heatley, Heatley,
I think it is h mentions that there's a correlation
with Yanko Corver and sleeper cars. Now, Ben, I think
we may have talked about this one already in the past,
because Um we talked about um the corvera of course,
and I think long not long after that, we talked
about John's email here. But there's something here that we

(26:09):
didn't mention, UM is that there's a kind of a
new version of you know these uh, these old sleeper
cars that people could order from the factory. Um it's
the Copo Camaro. Copo Camaro is something that Chevy is
offering right now. UM that stands for something there's a
like customer order. I'll come up with it in a
second here, but um, oh, central office production order is

(26:32):
what it is. That stands for Copo and it's basically
a drag racing car that you can order through the factory.
And I went to see one of these at a
dealership recently that took some photos of it. It was
really really cool. But um, in addition to the Copo
Camaro that he mentions, there's several of these things that
he's got here. Now. Kick Cars is one that we've mentioned. UM.
Car manufacturers that didn't make it, but still built amazing cars,

(26:54):
so like maybe some that were briefly in production, very
brief action UM offline production manufacturers. Um. And he's got
several listed here like UM SLP for the S S
Camaro and fire Hawk for GM AMG that builds Mercedes
Benz cars. UM, i'll see rough for Porsche anything shall
be Touched, which I think we've talked about already. But um,

(27:17):
and also ROUCH for Ford. So that's a good list.
So thank you John for that. And hey, uh, what's
another little known car facts? Oh? Yeah, I've got one
here that's you know what we're just just now mentioning Ford.
So how about this one. I was watching a television
show not long ago. It is like the ultimate uh
list of something, right, It's like the ultimate rally car

(27:38):
is the ultimate this? Uh this is a rally car
that they mentioned during this program. And I wrote down
this real quickly, um, just because I couldn't believe it
when I heard it, and then I read up on
it later and it's true. Um, the Ford RS two hundred,
which is a rally car made by Ford. UM. Whow back,
I don't know if there's still I don't think they're
still building this but um, ben, this is like on

(27:58):
the order of like a almost like an escort sized body. Okay,
so the Ford Escort and now the engine for this
rally car is tuned to about a thousand horsepower. So
they've got this massive amount of horse power out of
this car, right, um, extreme amount. And the problem with
this has been that when you push a car to
that limit, you got running on that ragged of an edge.

(28:20):
UM at full power when you're when you're you know,
rally racing, UM, you can only expect about ten hours
of engine life before it needs a complete engine rebuild.
So if you're gonna buy one of these for a
project or you know, as a toy, expect about ten
hours of hard driving out of it before you have
to completely rebuild the engine. And that's not a cheap endeavor. UM.

(28:42):
I don't have any numbers on the price of that,
you know what that is because that goes up every
year as parts become more and more scarce, and you know,
the the labor and everything goes up. But I can
imagine that after ten hours of use of your of
your project car, your toy, rebuilding the engine every ten hours,
that's in the neighborhood of like um like Formula one
cars if you rebolt every two races or whatever that was.

(29:05):
I've got some upcoming events, all right, so I'm let
me see, let's go with July. We want to keep
this far enough in advance that people can still make it.
The Concorde de Legance of America is uh having its
thirty five annual iteration in Plymouth, Michigan July. And for

(29:29):
listeners who are familiar with this, yes, go if you
can make it, of course. And for listeners who are
not familiar with the Concorde de Legans, Uh, We're just
gonna give you a brief teaser for our episode on
the Concorde UM and I guess Scott that teaser would
be imagine the best car show you could ever see,

(29:51):
with the best antique cars ever, the widest selection, and
UH at the top of the game of their game.
I mean, these are these are the best of the
best cars that are by invite only um SO concourse events.
Now this one in Plymouth, Michigan, I've never heard one
there because I lived in a town that was like
I mean literally I think on the border with Plymouth.
It was Northville, Michigan. Um for maybe four or five

(30:15):
years I lived there. They never had one in Plymouth,
so so I mean they're they're traveling. Definitely, definitely get
to that one if you've got an opportunity, if you're
anywhere nearby, that's you know, it's even a half a
day's drive. Conqueror Show is definitely worth going to. And
we've talked about going to we're here in Atlanta, and
we've talked about going to the Amelia Island Show, which
is you know, that's a decent drive. But man, I

(30:36):
would still consider that completely worth it, right because this
gives people a chance to see up close and in
real life vehicles that honestly you will have no other
chance of seeing. No. No, I still I still remember
clearly specific vehicles that I saw at at concourse shows
at Meadowbrook in Michigan. And I really would like to

(30:57):
travel and go to see some of these other shows
just for the different look ation. But man, every year
at a different show, so you know, make time to
go do this. And I've got one more event also
in Michigan. I didn't plan it this way. Sorry. These
are just both very interesting. Um there's an antique and
Collective Collectible Festival at Midland, Michigan Fairgrounds July twenty through one.

(31:21):
Uh this is important because it's a huge auto parts
swap meat. Uh So if you are a listener who
is in that area looking for hard to find parts
or just wants to go network and see a lot
of shows. Now, these cars are not going to be
Concords cars, of course, the typical swap meat. It's your

(31:43):
typical swap meat. But you could find some awesome car parts.
And what better way to prepare than to check out
our episodes on there, like Scott, you're cracking up in
my shameless plug, then to check out our uh our
episodes on how to find it's hard to find car parts. Um,

(32:04):
you know, I could take some of our own advice
here right now. Anyways, I'm having some trouble with my
project car, and well I'm just having a little trouble
finding some trim parts and things like that that I need.
I need a rear bumper if anybody's listening. Um, But seriously,
like it's it's it's harder than you might think when
you've got a car that's you know, neighboring on the
forty five years old fifty years old. Um, it's hard

(32:26):
to find parts in good condition and and around here
it seems like everything is from you know, like nineteen
on is what they carry in the junkyard, right or not?
Now you're driving a newport or you're building. I would
like to be driving my newport. It's a sixty seven Newport.
And uh and I again, I'm having some trouble finding
some some little parts here and there. And I've done

(32:47):
all the appropriate searches and everything, but I need to
get in contact with h. I need to get in
contact with a guy that knows a guy, you know
that kind of thing, so you know, it has to
be uh, word of mouth. Now at this point, I
think because I'm just not gonna find the part readily available.
Now we setbacks. We have a we have a listener
that I'll read this uh Facebook comment from a listener

(33:09):
that will call uh pH and uh here's why. Okay,
it's very mysterious. Well here's why. I just I don't
want to tread on any toes here. Uh. It's at
the letter begins. Good morning guys, long time listener. In fact,
I wrote to you once before regarding your podcast on
antique license plates at a Beat three pick up with

(33:30):
antique tags on it. You were nice enough to give
me a pseudonym when you discussed it on the podcast,
so I don't want to, you know, maybe we should
just stick with that. UM. Anyway, the truck's gone. It's
been replaced by a nineteen sixty nine International Harvesters Scout
eight hundred A. It's my project cards, sucking up more
time and money than I care to admit. But it
got me thinking, says pH that International Harvester might be

(33:53):
a cool podcast topic. If that's too narrow, then perhaps
one on early SUVs in general, like Scouts, land Rovers, roncos,
et cetera. Um, there have been several articles out lately
saying that these might be the next hot collectibles and
this got this got me thinking. And there's an autoblog
link there too. UM. So thank you pH for writing
to us. And it did get me thinking. The there's

(34:16):
so many UH SUV models that came out, you know, concurrently,
and they may well be these huge collections. Can you
imagine going to an antique suv show? Well, can I
tell you something interesting about this? Because I've got this
one right in front of me now, the same note
I was going to read it. Um, I wrote back
to pH and uh and just by sheer coincidence, spend

(34:39):
the day that he wrote this letter to us the
very day. Um, that morning, in traffic, I followed a
an International Scout Model eighty. Now this is an eight hundred,
which is a step up, and the later model. This
is an earlier model, the first model, model eighty. And
it was really in rough shape. But it was a
beautiful looking car. I mean it had a really cool
shape to it and the front end and everything. And

(35:00):
the owner was just as happy as could be to
drive this thing. You could tell. I mean, it looked
like a lot of fun. And if he says, and
if if pH here says that, you know, this may
be the next hot collectible. Um, and people are saying
that I'm kind of excited by this because I like
these old you know, like the Ford Bronco and um,
you know, the the old land Rovers and range Rovers
and I'm sorry land Rovers, brother, Yeah, the old jeeps,

(35:23):
like the military jeeps, and um, I got a letter
here in just a minute, I want to read about
military jeeps. But um, yeah, I think that's really cool
and I hope I hope he's right about this. Yes,
I do too. Do you want to jump into that letters?
Why not? M Um Bob from Ohio wrote me, Um
not long ago, I wrote us I should say, And
he says he's been listening to the show and in um,

(35:46):
listening to our show in his garage in Ohio while
he's doing some cool upgrades to his nineteen fifty three
Willie's c J three B jeep. Willie. Yeah it's a
Willie Yeah, yeah, so it's a Willie's jeep. And um
he's adding a period three point hitch, including hydraulics to
run it and a variable speed governor. So that's his
recent projects. But he thought that we could do a

(36:07):
show on uh post war jeeps. Um. And that's how
they were marketed as an alternative to farm tractors for
a lot of people. And now we had talked about
model t being, uh, you know, one of these utilitarian
vehicles that people you know would hook up sawmills too
and all that stuff. Well they're saying that, you know,
these would be an alternative farm tractors for some people
after the war, is what they marketed them as. So um,

(36:29):
there's an incredible line of accessories that were available for
post war jeeps. That um that Bob thinks that we
should maybe cover and uh, I don't. I don't think
that's a bad idea. Now, he also mentions that he
has ah and I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a
plug here. Um, he does a he has a project
that's uh that has photography from abandoned cars from the
Midwest and that which is really cool because you know,

(36:52):
you've got a lot of rusts going on up in
that type of region. So these abandoned cars, it's called
the project is called Broken Down Heroes and you can
search Been Down Heroes calendar and get a calendar. You
can buy it right from Bob from Ohio, who is
a car stuff listeners. So thank you, Bob. I appreciate it,
and I hope you get some I hope you get
some sales out of it, because uh, and I looked
at the site. I looked at some of these photos

(37:13):
and you can order them as prints or whatever. And man,
some of these, some of these to be really cool
to have his prints hanging on, you know, either on
our cubicle walls or on you know, maybe even at home.
And Uh, I've got something here that I wanted to
point out as well with the commemorative thing. Uh, Scott,
it has been sixty years since Chevy unveiled the Corvette Wow,

(37:36):
and so it's still the longest running production model in
GM history. So I just wanted to point like, I'm
not going anywhere. Yeah, that's a long time. And and
of course the pace car for this year is any
the new Stingray that they just released, which is a
really cool design. And you mentioned that it had some
crazy new V eight motor that is not available to

(37:56):
the public as of yet, Yeah, but it will be
coming back. That is a v E made in Tonawanda,
New York, I believe, and and it is. Um It's
interesting because in our pace car episodes we do mention,
more so in our most recent one, that this is
an opportunity for a lot of manufacturers to showcase their

(38:19):
new products to the public. So it's not at all
abnormal for a pace car to have some of the
new fangled engines and not quite available to the public yet.
But it will be later in the year, like maybe
in the fall or something, right exactly, it should be
the same year. And this also, um, I wanted to
point out that in and in response to Bob's comment,

(38:44):
just the name Willie brought me back. Himming's Classic Car
has its print magazine. UM that I read that. I
have the copy of it now stretch up in front
of me. UM. There is a great article on Willie's
post war passenger horror efforts. So UM, it's the perfect
fit Willie's styling. UM. Now, as you know, during World

(39:05):
War two, UH, a lot of car companies had some
difficult times. They had stops in production. UH. A lot
of companies did not survive the interwar years between World
War One and World War Two, and then UM a
lot when that, when that market came back, UM, it
was difficult to figure out to some degree what the

(39:29):
American public wanted to buy. And that's where a lot
of other companies UM also hit the chopping block unfortunately.
But there's this great article with some great drawings, some
original clay models of Willie's designs that didn't quite make it.
So if you guys get a chance to check it out,
please do. I'm going to see if I can find

(39:51):
a link to this online, and if I do, I'm
going to post it. Yeah, the Hemming's blog or something
like that. There's there's always a link to their their
feature story. So so I think we should do a
podcast on Willie's. That's a that's a very good idea.
All right. I want to do a couple here, just
rapid fire, because I get a lot of I get
a lot of these from Facebook, I got a lot
of them from email and all of the place. And
rather than reading through a lot of these emails now,

(40:11):
I've got a few more that I want to cover later.
But how about just some rapid fire like topic suggestion,
just quick one, so okay, all right. Um, Curtis Rice
wrote in and said that he wanted to see something
about the Allegheny steel Car, which is a but I
had never heard of it. But it's really really cool
design and you won't believe it when you see it. Um.
A Facebook suggestion from Brad Bray who wanted to hear

(40:32):
about cafe racers. Um, let's see there's the the karmen
Gia suggestion from Isaac Salgado. Oh that's awesome, Isaac. Uh,
my family had a Karma Ghia a long time ago,
two young driving. I've always enjoyed that design. That's a
really cool one. So then there's a Tesla Motors, which

(40:53):
we talked about earlier, and that was from Christopher Mann's
who wrote in via email. Um, let's see, there's least
cars from someone named Mike. Um. Let's see when we've
got there's the nineteen three Lamon Jaguar team story, which
is this is kind of just more like um urban legend,
myth type thing that we need to clear up. And

(41:13):
that was from Oh that's been Fast Sandy. Oh hey,
Fast Sandy. Yeah, good to hear from you. We're a
fan of him, remember, So Okay, So there's also iron
curtain cars. That was a suggestion from Harold Eck. Oh
I love I love a good four iron iron curtain cars.
So we're talking about like the Hugo and the Scota

(41:33):
and the uh tatra Um trabant Um, A lot of
different cars there, so uh street legal bumper cars. And
that was a suggestion from Joshua Baker. Um ten most
influential people in the motoring world. That's from Richard Morgan.
That's tough to make that list. Yeah, that's a tough one. Um.
Let's see Pontiac's overhead cam six cylinder engine. Uh that

(41:55):
goes way back to the sixties. That's John de Lorean's idea,
as a matter of fact, way ahead of its time.
That was from Joseph Farreus. Uh Farris, I think I
don't know how to say the last name, but Joseph,
thank you. Um Early electric cars listener suggestion from Kevin
Loving on Facebook, Early electric Cars. That's a that's a

(42:16):
really good point there, Kevin. This is going back to
like Baker Electric Car and the Detroit Electric Car Company exactly.
This is something that we've talked about before, Scott. So
many people don't know how far back electric car technology goes. Now.
I mean, clearly, I'm I'm more inclined to be a
fan of it once we get the pieces working correctly.

(42:40):
But I think what a lot of people don't consider
is that for some time in the very beginning of
the automotive industry there there were quite a few people
who pen their hopes on electric. The absolute was steam,
and it was electric, and then it was internal combustion,
and they kind of duked it out there for a while,

(43:00):
and then eventually, you know, internal combustion went over. But uh,
but yeah, steam electric, internal combustion, and uh, and we've
we've talked about that at at at pretty good length
in the past, but UM, to focus on a couple
of early electric cars, that's a that's a great idea.
So UM, you know, thanks again, Kevin, I appreciate that one.
And man I just again, that's right quickly, UM the

(43:22):
eight supercar series. Dallas Lee from Australia wants to hear
about that and and just more Australian market cars in general.
He would like to hear about, of course, which I
think there's something there with the sport youth vehicles because
they're so they're really popular over there and they're not
as popular here. Um Sazuoki carsh the good and the bad.
I guess maybe from Mauricia Garcia. UM driving controversial and

(43:48):
you know what, that's my own thing. Never mind, I
didn't mean to read that out loud, but there's controversial
moves that drivers have made during races. Now we talked about, UM,
this is my own it's not a listener suggestion that
we talked about. Last laps of that were great and
we had some audio you know, clips in with that
and that was really cool. It's a fun one to do.
And we had some controversial moves in there, like the
passes on the turn. Yeah, some of that stuff. Yeah,

(44:09):
so moves we're within that. But um, this is more
like controversial moves in within the race that don't have
to be in the last lap, that could be in
you know, anywhere within the race, whether they were foolhardy
or whether where they were heroic. I guess okay is
the way to put it. So I've got a few
examples here that you know, I'm not going to read
right now, but that's something I'm kind of working on
the on the back burner. Um, let's see the MG

(44:33):
company history by George. George Campbell wanted to hear that,
and he's from Sydney, Australia as well. Listener from Sydney. Um,
so thank you George for that. Uh, Dela Hay history.
Tim Cleary wanted to hear about Dela Hay history. And
let's see, we've done a lot of these, ben But
Moto g P um from Paul Redcoat Clark Clark, So

(44:58):
thank you Paul. So the Moto g P series something
I'll talk about in the future. I promise I've got some.
I've got something here for you. Man. That's a lot
of time yeah. Yeah, so we've got got just before
real quick. Yeah, maybe listeners look at an idea like
why sometimes when they suggest something it takes a little
while to get it into the rotation, and that, you know,
because this is just part of the list that we

(45:18):
get all the time. So great suggestions and we try
to get through them as quickly as we can. So
we're working on all of these. We we have a
lot of fun with this stuff too. UM. I wanted
to uh, I wanted to point out something back to
back to Bob's statement about Willie's and the Jeeps here

(45:38):
the post war jeeps. There's a great little mention here
nineteen fifty to fifty one. The Willie's Jeepster UM is
called one of the trendies vehicles to come along in years. Uh.
It has a tool drive convertible version of the larger,
more comfortable Jeep station wagon UM. And it has some
features that are that that are striking, like the cut

(46:01):
down doors are kind of reminiscent of European sports car
fashion UM of the of the same time, and uh,
it's got a seventy two horse power four cylinder or
a seventy five horse power straight six UM and this
was this was a car that was that was very versatile.
But I'm gonna show you this to you because once

(46:23):
you get a picture of this, this looks pretty long,
is it right here? At the Jeeps? Now, I had
a friend in high school that had a Jeepster that
was not this year, not this making model. I'm sorry.
It wasn't making as a Willia's Jeepster as a Jeepster,
and um, he and his father worked on as a
restoration project and it was the coolest car in our

(46:44):
high school parking lot. I'll tell you that it's really
really neat. I mean it was well done and they
did a great job with it. You know, he did
the right thing every winner and oiled the whole bottom
of the car. And you know, it never never got
any rust on it at all. It was a It
was a gorgeous car up until the point when we graduated,
how and what happened after that? But um, you know
what that looks like a fun car to drive, and
you know who else likes to drive? Ben number three

(47:06):
here on my list, because I've already gone through two.
We did the thousand piece Crankschef, We did the four
r S two hundred, which requires a new engine every
ten hours. Yes, that's ridiculous, and that's hours not miles hours. Yeah. Um.
Number three here on my list is the nineteen thirty
Blower Bentley. Now this is funny because this ties back

(47:27):
into remember the was the Fast Lady is the one
that we keep it keeps coming up, ben, it keeps
coming up in our conversations. That that kind of funny movie. Um,
British comedy. Right. Um get this that. Now, the top
speed of the of these uh, these cars was a
hundred and thirty seven miles per hour of these Blower Bentley.

(47:49):
So obviously it's a supercharge car. Um. There was also
a non supercharge version. Um, but the the supercharged versions
were according to Auto Week in a two thousand of
an article, the supercharged versions were fragile and thirsty cars.
And uh it's something you wouldn't really think about. Um. Now, boy,

(48:09):
this is where it gets a little bit confusing. Fragile
and thirsty. Fragile and thirsty, yes, that's right. And the
non supercharged versions they got about fifteen miles per gallon
from a four point five leader engine. Right, and these
are big, you know, huge cars, very squared off, there's
not really anything aerodynamic about them at all. They're just
very powerful cars. Um, the supercharged version, the one that

(48:29):
I'm talking about here at these Blower Bentley's again four
point five leaders, same engine, but it's supercharged. Three miles
per gallon, ben is what they what they achieved on
the track, so at speed, you know, on race form
or whatever, three miles per gallon is what they did.
So they were they were not so great for racing
long distances. Uh, in races like Lama, which you know,

(48:51):
astute listeners maybe say, wait a minute, I know a
little something about Bentley history and Bentley cars. Actually one
Lama in n twenty six and twenty nine. However, those
were not the Blower Bentley versions. Those were the standard
Bentley versions, the Blower Bentley's. They just weren't made for
that type of race and that type of environment. Yeah,

(49:13):
I don't know if achieved is the right word to
use with three three three miles per gallon, and that
was in nineteen thirty. Now, you know, fifteen miles per
gallon isn't great either, but at sure tops three miles
per gallon. And there were some recent news about you
know that these cars are still owned by Bentley the

(49:33):
motor Company, and the two of these cars are being
brought out for this year's meal Melia Race, which is
the one thousand mile race that happens in Italy and
it's kind of like a commemorative race really at this point, UM,
it's not the true race that happened. UM in the
ninety seven seven through fifty seven I think it was

(49:55):
UM by the way, that race they said brought out
as many as five million people to the roadside to
watch those cars. Five million because it's a one thousand
mile race that went from Brescia to Rome and then
from Rome back at Brescia, and five million people would
line the roads during that race from ninety seven. You

(50:16):
know what, I just realized we're going to have to
come back and do another Nuts and Bolts. I think
we're gonna have to. There's no way we can get
through all this stuff. I I just want to do. Uh,
I only have two more things. I want one of
them to be last because I think it's really cool,
and then tell you what, I'll hit you with this
number four thing. But we've done an awful lot of
listener mail. But we are gonna have to come back

(50:38):
and do more. We get so much great listener mail
keeping guys, it's really really good and uh, a lot
of the a lot of these stories are really really
good points and and uh also hilarious corom stories. Still,
we get some good stories, and we get some good
photos to you know, a lot of people sending photos

(50:58):
of their projects or you know then you know again
driving the nine rolls to prom I mean we've got
a photo of that car. Um. We've got all kinds
of really good, you know, good stuff that comes from
our listeners, and we want that to keep pouring in.
We really enjoy the suggestions, We really enjoy the stories,
the anecdotes, you know, telling us when we're right, when
we're wrong about something, we we appreciate it all. We're

(51:20):
not We're not above being wrong. We have been understands.
I often am so just just a little piece of
trivia to uh the sandwich between our little known car
facts here um oh sidebar scott um. Factoid is something
that is commonly believed to be true, but is not
actually true. So whenever you hear somebody say fact toy,

(51:42):
they might be saying they might mean facts. I'm I'm
lying to you. What they're saying, Well, yeah, it's like, uh,
it's like something that every kind of like an old
wife stuff about on lying to you, but I don't
mean to right, Yeah, it's it's like, uh, it's it's
not purposely lying, it's just it's misinformation, not disinformation. Understood, This, however,

(52:03):
is a fact and not a factoid. Um and F
one car experiences so much down force that it could
theoretically drive upside down at only a hundred and five
miles an hour or seventy kilometers. Okay, is that a factor?
Is that a fact toy? Because that's never actually been done.
You are correct, sir, and I'm so I'm so glad you.

(52:25):
I'm so glad you pointed out this is theoretically this
is based on calculations of the design and the power
of an F one, and we know that they generate
tremendous down force. But is it enough down force to
to do this? And if so, why hasn't anyone tried it?
All Right, I've seen some clever commercials that have shown

(52:47):
cars that have gone like you know, up and around
and over cars and tunnels and things like that. Right now,
we haven't actually seen anybody do this and test this
and actually make it work. I kind of think, I
really do think that. But he's probably working on this
as a stunt that may happen in uh, you know,
let's say ten years from now, that somebody may put
this into practice and and literally do this as a stunt,

(53:10):
as a as a trick to show that it can
be done with an F one like a proof of concept. Yeah,
exactly that. You know, they say it can be done,
The numbers say it can be done. I'm gonna try this,
and we're gonna we're gonna lay this out, you know, mathematically,
statistically make it work so that's relatively safe for the
driver and everybody involved. And we're gonna film it and
we're gonna show it, and it's gonna blow everybody's mind.
I think a full loop wouldn't work, but maybe one

(53:34):
cork screw would would be a way to I always think,
see what I was thinking is you roll up to us,
you're directly upside down, drive for a certain distance, whether
it's a quarter mile or whatever it is, and then
roll it back down the other way, so you're sustaining
that upside down momentum. I guess or that that motion
instead of just doing a like one time around, because

(53:54):
it seems like that could almost be done. You know,
you could see skateboarders do stuff like that. You should
see a motorcycle to do stuff like that. But to
to maintain that, that's the trick is to maintain the
down force upside completely upside down the track and and
adhere to the roof. And it's it's also a very risky,
financially risky endeavor assuring and good luck finding the driver

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that wants to try this the first time. Let's keep
in mind that F one cars are not you know,
at all affordable. Yeah that's true. Yeah, yeah. Point. So
that my number four and probably the last thing that
I'll mention in this entire podcast, because we've gotta, like
you said, we gotta break it up into another one. Um.
I read something recently about our good friend Henry Ford

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again and uh, this is all about Model T engine
production and this kind of this kind of brought to
mind that. Man, I think I really think now looking
back at this, that that Henry if if no one
had really stepped in and said, you know, we gotta,
we gotta update this to the Model A. We gotta
start moving on. We gotta we gotta grow as a company.
I really think that Henry Ford would have run that
Model T as a production car right up until the

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nineteen fifties or whenever when he retired. I can't remember
the exact date when he retired, but I broke. I
feel like he would have just maintained, you know, the
course as as he was going, and would not have
changed anything about the Model T because he had a
formula that worked right. All right, So the Model T
engine production run then this, this is unbelievable. Um, it
ran from September seven eight, which is not a big surprise, right, Um,

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the Model T itself ended production. However, they continued production
on the engine until August fourth, ninety one. And that
that equivals That equals out to exactly twelve thousand calendar days.
So it's thirty two years, ten months, nine days. That's

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how long the production run was. Exactly twelve thousand days.
Now that sounds planned to me. That they knew. Um, now,
the specs for that and the engine specs for that
entire run, that third two year, almost thirty two almost
thirty three year run remained almost completely unchanged for the
entire the entirety of that production run. Um. Again, so

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the US UM I don't know about nineteen years was
the run of the Model T. Maybe a little bit
shorter from nineteen to twenty seven, um, but the engine Again,
I mean, there was an industrial and military market and
marine market. I guess that fueled the need for this.
So it wasn't just Ford being crazy forward. It was forward, um,

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you know, actually filling a need until But I had
no idea that it went all the way until the
early nineteen forties. And again this odd production thing, this
this twelve thousand days thing that is so bizarre to be.
I don't I don't know why that that stood out
as a sore thumb, but it's a it's a strange figure.
Well maybe they decided on that part way through, you know,

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maybe maybe thousands something. I think. So I think we're
gonna end production here. But let's just tell you what,
you know, what be needs that we retched it out
to exactly twelve thousand days, and then we can use
that in our marketing or whatever. But I'm I don't
really recall reading that anywhere else um, that that it
was produced until I mean, so that again the model Teve,

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the Model T engine N eight. That's odd. That is
very odd. Now I've got something here that I think
is intriguing. This I wanted to save this for the
end of our podcast. I apologize because I believe listeners
sent this to us and I didn't grab the name.
I will bring this up in our next episode. Uh,

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guess who is sponsoring a new land speed attempt? A
new land speed attempt wouldn't be Uh is a Bugatti? Uh?
It is Rolls Royce. No yet, Rolls Royce is sponsoring
a one thousand mile per hour Bloodhound SSC project. Yep,

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they're gonna support the project and they see it as
an educational program um and of course a real life
land speed record attempt to break the barrier there the
one thousand months barriers. So we've talked about the Bloodhound
in the past, I know, because we talked about the
Thrust SSC and that was such a cool thing to watch.
But man, so Rolls Royces throwing their name behind the

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the Bloodhound. Yeah, they're gonna give him uh an e
J two hundred engine that's from a Eurofighter Typhoon. And
then it's also gonna have a cause worth F one
engine driving the rocket oxidizer pump together, this generates wait
for it's got a hundred and thirty five thousand equivalent horsepower.
Oh my gosh, so that's a hundred and eighty times

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uh an F one car one hundred and thirty five
thousand horsepower. Yes, that's incredible, And you know, that's just
sounds so cool. I mean, I'm gonna love watching this thing,
even in test runs. You know, it's gonna be really
cool to watch. And so they're hoping to break you know,
it's weird. They're trying to break to bearritors. They want
to break the seven d sixty three mph set by

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the thrust uh In, and they want to break the
one thousand mph there has just never happened. They're gonna
top one thousand miles per hour on the ground, they
hope they will. I don't know, that's boy. I feel
like we need to investigate what these wheels are going
to be made out of, because remember, there are some
crazy materials that made the wheels of the other vehicles,

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and there's a lot of really strange rules that go
into this, like they have to make sure that the
wheels stay on the ground, they walk the entire track
because if it's actually a low flying airplane, it doesn't
make these it's not lands has to be connected to
the ground through the wheels, So there's always there's gotta
be a tire track that goes the entire length of
the run. Man, there's there's so many cool rules about

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this thing too, and it's just it would be need
to be able to go see that run being made. Well, um,
all we have to do is travel to I believe
it's cock skin pond. Uh may not be pronounced that correctly.
In South Africa. The car is going to be in
the desert. They're gonna check it out there. It's gonna
be two miles wide, twelve miles long, and perfectly flat, unbelievable,

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which is still key, you know, just like the salt
Flat's got to be perfectly flat, wide open spaces, just
condition like, you know, no rain prior to that and everything.
So this is a weather dependent record as well, and
no side gusts of wind and all that. I mean weather.
It plays a big, big role and uh, our listeners
have played a big, big role in this and every show.

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