June 1, 2023 • 17 mins
George Noory and author Jason Martell explore his research into ancient civilizations, evidence of advanced technology that existed thousands of years ago, why so many civilizations have legends of destructive floods, and if NASA will release proof of UFOs visiting Earth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norie with
Jason Martel has been one of the leading researchers and
lecturers specializing in ancient civilization technologies. Mister Martel's research has
been featured worldwide on numerous television and radio shows such
as the History Channel, Ancient Aliens, Discovery Channel, Sci Fi Channel,
(00:26):
the BBC, and of course a regular guest here on
Coast to Coast Jason, How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm doing great, George, thanks for having me back on.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Looking forward to this and I'm going to see you
at Contact in the Desert this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, sir, I'm looking forward to that as well.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What's new with you?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, you know, just still trying to unravel some of
those mysteries around all this ancient evidence of who were they,
where did they come from? And trying to use some
new technology to you know, unlock some of these answers,
artificial intelligence, some of the latest things that we can do,
(01:06):
you know, corellating data. So I guess what I'm up
to these days, George, is you know, still just battling
the you know, the the mainstream views of our data
and some of the top you know, some of these
topics that are getting light now, like UAPs and such.
It's it's an ongoing topic that we got to continue
(01:26):
to stay on top of.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
How did you get involved in ancient alien work?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know, when I was in college in San Diego.
I'm sure you will remember this as soon as I
explain it, but you know, someone had just mentioned that
there were structures on Mars when I was in college,
and I was very interested and found out that the
company that puts all the cameras on the landers and
orbiters was also located in San Diego called Malan Space
(01:53):
Science Systems. And so, through several conversations with doctor Mike
Maylan asking him about Sidonia in the face serments him
always telling me, no, these are all natural wind and weather,
no aliens, no people made these, I quickly just became
more interested in realizing, well, wait a minute, this is
on Mars. We have stuff all over our own planet
(02:13):
that we still don't understand, who really built them, where
the origins came from. So you know that's what sparked George.
Is this you know it's never going to end looking
quest for you know these answers.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's crazy times. And you have done some work researching
some of the godlike cultures, but you say they're all
related to water. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know? One of the interesting things that I've noticed
about many of the ancient cultures, and the show Ancient
Aliens did a good job too doing some of the
research and finding these connections. But there's some really interesting connections.
And we realize that a lot of the ancient cultures
(02:57):
speak of their gods having some type of connect with water,
either like depicting them as beings that are fish like
in some way or came out of the water. And
you hear words that are very much descriptive in nature
that seem to be related. So you hear something like
(03:19):
the Dogon tribe, which they were very interested in, the
dog star, or the whole idea of cirrus A and B.
But then you have all these other cultures like the
Mesopotamian Doagu or the Japanese Dogon excuse me, Doagu, and
then we have the African Dogon excuse me. So there's
(03:42):
many different cultures that seem to be referencing either Dagu, Dogon,
dog Star, or even the word dragging. All of these
seem to have some type of relation to maybe not
always a fish, but a lot of these gods either
are depicted as having a relation with water or with
this word dog star dogon DAGU. So it starts to
(04:05):
point towards serious A and B and starting to raise
questions around is there location can we pinpoint where these
ancient gods actually came from?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, I got to tell you, Jason, something happened on
this planet a long time ago, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, you know that's the that's the drum we've been
beating for so long, right, so or it's just you know,
even recently, uh you know my book Knowledge Apocalypse from
which it kind of touches on this, but you know,
recently there was an eight hour special on Netflix called
Ancient Apocalypse by Graham Hancock and and there too, you know,
he uncovered some of the more recent research around you know,
(04:48):
there's this evidence all around the globe, you know, even
across the Americas of ancient sites that showed some type
of evidence that ancient technology was being widely used by
ancient cultures in ways that we're still trying to unlock.
They used astronomy markers in the sky over time and
(05:10):
used archaeology and land to make these alignments happen that
are trying to tell us something. And we're still trying
to unlock the meaning of all of these signs that
have been left for us.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well, it's incredible. By the way, back in twenty twelve,
when we all talked about the Mayan calendar end date,
nobody really knew what would happen. A lot of people
predicted the Mayans were talking about the end of the world.
Many people said, no, they're not, They're just talking about
a new type of evolution. What was your take on
(05:44):
all of that?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Right, So that's connected to the research here, is that
all of these ancient sites are showing us that they
tracked the stars over long periods of times. And so
the Mayans, I think, were a way to teach the
general pub like about what we're doing in a microway.
When people heard about twenty twelve in the Mayan Calendar,
(06:06):
they instantly said, excuse, oh, it's the end of time.
Oh my god, what's going to happen? You know, the
world's going to end. And what we do is to teach,
you know, the general public that No, the mines actually
had a much deeper understanding of time and had systems
of time, and basically in twenty twelve it was just
the ending of one of their time slots on a calendar.
(06:29):
You know, time is cyclical, so understanding that we were
just moving out of the Age of Pisces into the
Age of Aquarius is something that it's very hard for,
you know, most people to understand that. Over thirty ancient
cultures were using the heavens kind of like a large
celestial clock. They divided the heavens into twelve parts, which
(06:51):
we now today call the twelve Houses of the Zodiac.
But each of those basically every two thousand years, we're
pointing to a front star, a new north star, and
so in twenty twelve, we're essentially we're just shifting once
again from one star to another one. But this happens
over a long period of time. This is a twenty
(07:12):
four thousand year cycle where we go through these constellations
every two thousand years, having our north star points to
the new one. So this means something, right, So the
ancients put this in place as a grand clock for
us to understand that we go through these changes and
they're guided by motions in the solar system. So it's
a really heavy topic that we've been trying to unlock
(07:34):
looking at procession and other models of how solar system
motion right might literally affect the rise and fall of
civilization here on Earth.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Jason, Now, what kind of technology do you think they
had a long time ago?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You know, a lot of the things that we're looking
at today in trying to understand UAPs or euphological reference
is of power sources. Funny enough, we find those pop
up in the ancient text when we look at the
Sumerians and the depictions of these beings called the Aanaki.
(08:11):
The Sumerian lexicon is littered with use of actual rocket ships.
I mean down to the detail that you see separating
capsule modules from the park just like we launch something
into space and the top part of the capsule detaches.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, I got to tell you, Jason, it's amazing work
that you do, that's for sure. Now let me tell
you this. Jason is going to be at Contact in
the Desert this weekend. I'll be there too. As a
matter of fact, a couple things are happening at Contact
in the Desert, which includes a panel I'm hosting, which
will be on Saturday. If you're in the greater Los
(08:51):
Angeles area, come on out. Full information on that is
at coast tocoastam dot com in the highlight reel, that
revolving reel that you so make sure you're part of that.
And then of course on Sunday, I'm going to host
the radio show here. We're celebrating my birthday there, but
Jason Martel will be doing a presentation at Contact in
(09:13):
the Desert and I'm looking forward to that. Jason, you
ready for Contact?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I sure am. I am looking for Contact very much
so on happy Birthday, early on work.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's coming along, that's for sure. Tell us about Pacala
and his sarcophagus.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yes, King Pacall, that's definitely an interesting one. We have
visual evidence of the Mayan king that. First of all,
the way his sarcophagus is built is pretty much as
if they put it there first and built the whole
pyramid around it. It's very architecturally interesting. But the tomb
(09:55):
of the call the slab, the outer slab, has this
beautiful intricate design which you know, you can google just
King Pacol to see it. It clearly shows him manipulating
what looks like the internal workings of a rocket ship.
He's got something connected to his nose, possibly for oxygen.
He's manipulating with his hands what appear to be levers
(10:16):
and switches. He's feeded in a vertical position, just like
our astronauts are. And most importantly, you see flames coming
out of the bottom of the ship. It clearly looks
like some type of a conveyance of a rocket ship
where he's headed to the stars, headed.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
To the stars. Indeed, it's an incredible How do you
come up with these things?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, you know, it's not me so much, George, It's
just we've got such a lexicon of knowledge for the
ancient astronaut theory. Eric Vondanikin, Zacharias Fitch, and others like
myself and Georgio and David Hadrid Childress. They've just been
sitting through the evidence for so long that there's so
many needles in the haystack that we can point to.
(11:01):
You know, That's where it kind of gets complicated sometimes,
is being able to offload some of this weight into
technology like artificial intelligence in other ways, so that we
can easily access and find ways to make these connections
with the data that we have available, because there is
a vast amount of evidence that we can sift through.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Jason, have you been following the NASA hearing today on
UAPs which we still call UFOs of course, and their
incredible thing that they said they've been tracking for twenty
seven years, eight hundred cases of which two to five
percent of them are unexplained. What a great story.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's changing the game for us, isn't it. It's validation finally,
it's you know, I would like to see a little
bit more open end in this still, but I'll give
credit to the fact that we are getting a light
at the end of the tunnel that starts to open
positive discussions around this without their being snickering and ridicule.
(12:04):
Anytime UFOs or things like that are brought up in
the past, it's like, well, no, this is a very
serious topic. So I'm glad that it's being brought into
the proper life.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
For an organization such as NASA that has been accused
of covering up so many things, why do they appear
to be open when it comes to this, You.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Know, I think it's a shifting landscape. I have been
watching this area for a long time, and that companies
like NASA and others that do classified research maybe even
reverse engineering technology from you know, extraterrestual craftess this has
always been a very closed topic, only controlled by security clearance,
military access. That's changed for whatever reason, the game is
(12:51):
changing that the general public is now being given access
to work in NASA and some of these organizations where
you can access technology directly. You know, even if you
look at the show Ancient Aliens and how it's now
partnered and working with the people who ran a tip,
(13:12):
this just never happened before in our field, Like there
was two camps. There's the classified research and obfuscation of
data and then there's us saying something's going on and
no one really crossing those boundaries. But now we have
boundaries being crossed between the euthology crew and this classified group.
But here's my answer, George, is this, you know a tip,
(13:38):
blue book, cons and report. There's a whole bunch of
these task force that have come out over time, and
they never take us anywhere. So I don't really look
to NASA as a source to say that they're going
to come out with you know, overwhelming new evidence. There's
a system in place, a broadly reaching system that touches
NASA and all of these companies that come out publicly
(14:01):
like ATIP, where they're still under a blanket of security
and we're not getting actual movement in our field from
these organizations. There's still an obfuscation of data, but there's
a being, but there is like little light release that
maybe that shows us something is happening. Maybe there is
some type of a disclosure that's you know, planned, but
(14:24):
it's not going to happen the way we think. It's
definitely some other agenda.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
What do you think the pilots are seeing, Jason, something extraterrestrial.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't think it's extraterrestrial in the sense that what
we're hearing when we hear the word UAP, or we're
hearing about is probably advanced other technologies from other countries
swarm drone technology.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Or maybe our own, or.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It could be our own also where we're running, you know,
it's definitely our own as well. But I just think
that when we talk about UAPs in our airspace, it's
a very strong likelihood that other countries of developed technology
that we're allowing for whatever reason, into our airspace, and
that's that's another thing as to why they would even
(15:09):
be allowing these things to happen, even just most recently,
like these.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Balloons and yeah, look how long they let that float
over the United States.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, a little weird.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It's crazy times. Is NASA still covering up things about
Mars in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yes, most definitely, George, for a long time. And that's
what I'm going to presented. Contact in the desert is
the keyword from my presentation to one big word. It's
called obfuscation. Right, so ever since they released photos of
the moon, even before we landed on the moon, and
then of course when we landed on the moon, you
use all that data set as a beginning to show
(15:47):
that obfuscation was always in place. Right, So we can
we can look back at those images of the fifties
and sixties and use machine learning to show you, oh,
look a computer propped this, or it was smudge, or
they replaced it, or they changed the shadowing. Right, So
that is all like on the record, I can take
you a quote a law and show you, yeah, this
(16:08):
has all been manipulated. I don't know why. So now
when we move on to Mars and the face and
the pyramids, which I've been tracking for twenty years. You know,
when we first imaged it. In the beginning, it was
super clear to count pyramids and face up here, and
over time it's gotten worse. Now the technology we have
to image it is improved, but again they obfuscate the data.
(16:30):
If you ask anyone that NASA, JPL, the owned Space
Science systems, well what about that face and pyramids, they're
going to tell you a top level answer which has
always been the same, there's nothing here. Only now it
would be oh, yeah, we've reimaged it and you can
see in the high resolution resolution photos it's not a
face and there are no pyramids. No, you're just not
(16:51):
showing us the full picture. You're obfiscating the data. So
it's not an easy pass for us. George rights the
researchers because we're all always being limited by the access
we get. And even Graham Haycock in is special, but
he tried to get to these serpent nouns in Ohio
and he gets a formal response going, yeah, we don't
like the way you approach our topics. We're just gonna
(17:13):
deny you research access.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norie with
Jason Martel has been one of the leading researchers and
lecturers specializing in ancient civilization technologies. Mister Martel's research has
been featured worldwide on numerous television and radio shows such
as the History Channel, Ancient Aliens, Discovery Channel, Sci Fi Channel,
(00:26):
the BBC, and of course a regular guest here on
Coast to Coast Jason, How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm doing great, George, thanks for having me back on.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Looking forward to this and I'm going to see you
at Contact in the Desert this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, sir, I'm looking forward to that as well.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What's new with you?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, you know, just still trying to unravel some of
those mysteries around all this ancient evidence of who were they,
where did they come from? And trying to use some
new technology to you know, unlock some of these answers,
artificial intelligence, some of the latest things that we can do,
(01:06):
you know, corellating data. So I guess what I'm up
to these days, George, is you know, still just battling
the you know, the the mainstream views of our data
and some of the top you know, some of these
topics that are getting light now, like UAPs and such.
It's it's an ongoing topic that we got to continue
(01:26):
to stay on top of.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
How did you get involved in ancient alien work?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know, when I was in college in San Diego.
I'm sure you will remember this as soon as I
explain it, but you know, someone had just mentioned that
there were structures on Mars when I was in college,
and I was very interested and found out that the
company that puts all the cameras on the landers and
orbiters was also located in San Diego called Malan Space
(01:53):
Science Systems. And so, through several conversations with doctor Mike
Maylan asking him about Sidonia in the face serments him
always telling me, no, these are all natural wind and weather,
no aliens, no people made these, I quickly just became
more interested in realizing, well, wait a minute, this is
on Mars. We have stuff all over our own planet
(02:13):
that we still don't understand, who really built them, where
the origins came from. So you know that's what sparked George.
Is this you know it's never going to end looking
quest for you know these answers.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's crazy times. And you have done some work researching
some of the godlike cultures, but you say they're all
related to water. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know? One of the interesting things that I've noticed
about many of the ancient cultures, and the show Ancient
Aliens did a good job too doing some of the
research and finding these connections. But there's some really interesting connections.
And we realize that a lot of the ancient cultures
(02:57):
speak of their gods having some type of connect with water,
either like depicting them as beings that are fish like
in some way or came out of the water. And
you hear words that are very much descriptive in nature
that seem to be related. So you hear something like
(03:19):
the Dogon tribe, which they were very interested in, the
dog star, or the whole idea of cirrus A and B.
But then you have all these other cultures like the
Mesopotamian Doagu or the Japanese Dogon excuse me, Doagu, and
then we have the African Dogon excuse me. So there's
(03:42):
many different cultures that seem to be referencing either Dagu, Dogon,
dog Star, or even the word dragging. All of these
seem to have some type of relation to maybe not
always a fish, but a lot of these gods either
are depicted as having a relation with water or with
this word dog star dogon DAGU. So it starts to
(04:05):
point towards serious A and B and starting to raise
questions around is there location can we pinpoint where these
ancient gods actually came from?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, I got to tell you, Jason, something happened on
this planet a long time ago, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, you know that's the that's the drum we've been
beating for so long, right, so or it's just you know,
even recently, uh you know my book Knowledge Apocalypse from
which it kind of touches on this, but you know,
recently there was an eight hour special on Netflix called
Ancient Apocalypse by Graham Hancock and and there too, you know,
he uncovered some of the more recent research around you know,
(04:48):
there's this evidence all around the globe, you know, even
across the Americas of ancient sites that showed some type
of evidence that ancient technology was being widely used by
ancient cultures in ways that we're still trying to unlock.
They used astronomy markers in the sky over time and
(05:10):
used archaeology and land to make these alignments happen that
are trying to tell us something. And we're still trying
to unlock the meaning of all of these signs that
have been left for us.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well, it's incredible. By the way, back in twenty twelve,
when we all talked about the Mayan calendar end date,
nobody really knew what would happen. A lot of people
predicted the Mayans were talking about the end of the world.
Many people said, no, they're not, They're just talking about
a new type of evolution. What was your take on
(05:44):
all of that?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Right, So that's connected to the research here, is that
all of these ancient sites are showing us that they
tracked the stars over long periods of times. And so
the Mayans, I think, were a way to teach the
general pub like about what we're doing in a microway.
When people heard about twenty twelve in the Mayan Calendar,
(06:06):
they instantly said, excuse, oh, it's the end of time.
Oh my god, what's going to happen? You know, the
world's going to end. And what we do is to teach,
you know, the general public that No, the mines actually
had a much deeper understanding of time and had systems
of time, and basically in twenty twelve it was just
the ending of one of their time slots on a calendar.
(06:29):
You know, time is cyclical, so understanding that we were
just moving out of the Age of Pisces into the
Age of Aquarius is something that it's very hard for,
you know, most people to understand that. Over thirty ancient
cultures were using the heavens kind of like a large
celestial clock. They divided the heavens into twelve parts, which
(06:51):
we now today call the twelve Houses of the Zodiac.
But each of those basically every two thousand years, we're
pointing to a front star, a new north star, and
so in twenty twelve, we're essentially we're just shifting once
again from one star to another one. But this happens
over a long period of time. This is a twenty
(07:12):
four thousand year cycle where we go through these constellations
every two thousand years, having our north star points to
the new one. So this means something, right, So the
ancients put this in place as a grand clock for
us to understand that we go through these changes and
they're guided by motions in the solar system. So it's
a really heavy topic that we've been trying to unlock
(07:34):
looking at procession and other models of how solar system
motion right might literally affect the rise and fall of
civilization here on Earth.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Jason, Now, what kind of technology do you think they
had a long time ago?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You know, a lot of the things that we're looking
at today in trying to understand UAPs or euphological reference
is of power sources. Funny enough, we find those pop
up in the ancient text when we look at the
Sumerians and the depictions of these beings called the Aanaki.
(08:11):
The Sumerian lexicon is littered with use of actual rocket ships.
I mean down to the detail that you see separating
capsule modules from the park just like we launch something
into space and the top part of the capsule detaches.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, I got to tell you, Jason, it's amazing work
that you do, that's for sure. Now let me tell
you this. Jason is going to be at Contact in
the Desert this weekend. I'll be there too. As a
matter of fact, a couple things are happening at Contact
in the Desert, which includes a panel I'm hosting, which
will be on Saturday. If you're in the greater Los
(08:51):
Angeles area, come on out. Full information on that is
at coast tocoastam dot com in the highlight reel, that
revolving reel that you so make sure you're part of that.
And then of course on Sunday, I'm going to host
the radio show here. We're celebrating my birthday there, but
Jason Martel will be doing a presentation at Contact in
(09:13):
the Desert and I'm looking forward to that. Jason, you
ready for Contact?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I sure am. I am looking for Contact very much
so on happy Birthday, early on work.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's coming along, that's for sure. Tell us about Pacala
and his sarcophagus.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yes, King Pacall, that's definitely an interesting one. We have
visual evidence of the Mayan king that. First of all,
the way his sarcophagus is built is pretty much as
if they put it there first and built the whole
pyramid around it. It's very architecturally interesting. But the tomb
(09:55):
of the call the slab, the outer slab, has this
beautiful intricate design which you know, you can google just
King Pacol to see it. It clearly shows him manipulating
what looks like the internal workings of a rocket ship.
He's got something connected to his nose, possibly for oxygen.
He's manipulating with his hands what appear to be levers
(10:16):
and switches. He's feeded in a vertical position, just like
our astronauts are. And most importantly, you see flames coming
out of the bottom of the ship. It clearly looks
like some type of a conveyance of a rocket ship
where he's headed to the stars, headed.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
To the stars. Indeed, it's an incredible How do you
come up with these things?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, you know, it's not me so much, George, It's
just we've got such a lexicon of knowledge for the
ancient astronaut theory. Eric Vondanikin, Zacharias Fitch, and others like
myself and Georgio and David Hadrid Childress. They've just been
sitting through the evidence for so long that there's so
many needles in the haystack that we can point to.
(11:01):
You know, That's where it kind of gets complicated sometimes,
is being able to offload some of this weight into
technology like artificial intelligence in other ways, so that we
can easily access and find ways to make these connections
with the data that we have available, because there is
a vast amount of evidence that we can sift through.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Jason, have you been following the NASA hearing today on
UAPs which we still call UFOs of course, and their
incredible thing that they said they've been tracking for twenty
seven years, eight hundred cases of which two to five
percent of them are unexplained. What a great story.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's changing the game for us, isn't it. It's validation finally,
it's you know, I would like to see a little
bit more open end in this still, but I'll give
credit to the fact that we are getting a light
at the end of the tunnel that starts to open
positive discussions around this without their being snickering and ridicule.
(12:04):
Anytime UFOs or things like that are brought up in
the past, it's like, well, no, this is a very
serious topic. So I'm glad that it's being brought into
the proper life.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
For an organization such as NASA that has been accused
of covering up so many things, why do they appear
to be open when it comes to this, You.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Know, I think it's a shifting landscape. I have been
watching this area for a long time, and that companies
like NASA and others that do classified research maybe even
reverse engineering technology from you know, extraterrestual craftess this has
always been a very closed topic, only controlled by security clearance,
military access. That's changed for whatever reason, the game is
(12:51):
changing that the general public is now being given access
to work in NASA and some of these organizations where
you can access technology directly. You know, even if you
look at the show Ancient Aliens and how it's now
partnered and working with the people who ran a tip,
(13:12):
this just never happened before in our field, Like there
was two camps. There's the classified research and obfuscation of
data and then there's us saying something's going on and
no one really crossing those boundaries. But now we have
boundaries being crossed between the euthology crew and this classified group.
But here's my answer, George, is this, you know a tip,
(13:38):
blue book, cons and report. There's a whole bunch of
these task force that have come out over time, and
they never take us anywhere. So I don't really look
to NASA as a source to say that they're going
to come out with you know, overwhelming new evidence. There's
a system in place, a broadly reaching system that touches
NASA and all of these companies that come out publicly
(14:01):
like ATIP, where they're still under a blanket of security
and we're not getting actual movement in our field from
these organizations. There's still an obfuscation of data, but there's
a being, but there is like little light release that
maybe that shows us something is happening. Maybe there is
some type of a disclosure that's you know, planned, but
(14:24):
it's not going to happen the way we think. It's
definitely some other agenda.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
What do you think the pilots are seeing, Jason, something extraterrestrial.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't think it's extraterrestrial in the sense that what
we're hearing when we hear the word UAP, or we're
hearing about is probably advanced other technologies from other countries
swarm drone technology.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Or maybe our own, or.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It could be our own also where we're running, you know,
it's definitely our own as well. But I just think
that when we talk about UAPs in our airspace, it's
a very strong likelihood that other countries of developed technology
that we're allowing for whatever reason, into our airspace, and
that's that's another thing as to why they would even
(15:09):
be allowing these things to happen, even just most recently,
like these.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Balloons and yeah, look how long they let that float
over the United States.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, a little weird.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It's crazy times. Is NASA still covering up things about
Mars in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yes, most definitely, George, for a long time. And that's
what I'm going to presented. Contact in the desert is
the keyword from my presentation to one big word. It's
called obfuscation. Right, so ever since they released photos of
the moon, even before we landed on the moon, and
then of course when we landed on the moon, you
use all that data set as a beginning to show
(15:47):
that obfuscation was always in place. Right, So we can
we can look back at those images of the fifties
and sixties and use machine learning to show you, oh,
look a computer propped this, or it was smudge, or
they replaced it, or they changed the shadowing. Right, So
that is all like on the record, I can take
you a quote a law and show you, yeah, this
(16:08):
has all been manipulated. I don't know why. So now
when we move on to Mars and the face and
the pyramids, which I've been tracking for twenty years. You know,
when we first imaged it. In the beginning, it was
super clear to count pyramids and face up here, and
over time it's gotten worse. Now the technology we have
to image it is improved, but again they obfuscate the data.
(16:30):
If you ask anyone that NASA, JPL, the owned Space
Science systems, well what about that face and pyramids, they're
going to tell you a top level answer which has
always been the same, there's nothing here. Only now it
would be oh, yeah, we've reimaged it and you can
see in the high resolution resolution photos it's not a
face and there are no pyramids. No, you're just not
(16:51):
showing us the full picture. You're obfiscating the data. So
it's not an easy pass for us. George rights the
researchers because we're all always being limited by the access
we get. And even Graham Haycock in is special, but
he tried to get to these serpent nouns in Ohio
and he gets a formal response going, yeah, we don't
like the way you approach our topics. We're just gonna
(17:13):
deny you research access.
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