May 27, 2023 • 17 mins
Guest host Connie Willis and Tina Mattingly, owner of the Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Louisville Kentucky, discuss the history of the facility, the barbaric medical practices done on the site trying to cure tuberculosis in the early 20th century, and the paranormal events she's experienced seeing ghosts of past patients.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey there, and welcome back to Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Connie Willis. I would love for you to join
my shows, or learn something about my shows, or even
you know, go outside here and listen to the podcast
that I have for you. You can easily do that
just simply go to Connie Willis dot com. You can
find all sorts of everything there and I'd love for
(00:26):
you to be a part of the community and the
family I have. It's a really good time. We have
a good time. We do have a good time, and
we do a lot of fun stuff. We laugh, but
we also investigate for real bigfoot and we've done creepy
hotspots at Waverly Hills what we're talking about tonight. And
we have a good time across the board and it's
all of us hanging out. We're not just bigfooters or
(00:47):
ghost hunters or UFO watchers or any you know, medium society.
It's everything deep into it, not one oh one. So
if you're really serious, you know, yeah, it's a member,
that's right. You got to keep me going. So I'd
love for you to join. Go to Connie Willis dot
com see what works for you, and at least sign
(01:08):
up to get the emails and all start sending those
out soon. There's a lot of work to keep all
this stuff going. So yeah, we've done some of my
creepy hotspots. We've been broadcasting from right there at Waverley
Hills and just amazing things have happened, just with our
live events that we do there and the times that
(01:29):
I've been there, Amazing crazy things that happened now before.
So we have teeny teeny, teeny. We got teeny Tina teenie.
We've got Tina Holy Cow teen and then it's like
help me out here. We have Tina Mattinglee. She's the owner,
her and her husband Charlie, and so Tina, there's amazing stories.
(01:51):
But before we get to the ghosts stories and encounters
and all that kind of stuff, I just want to
let people know a little bit more about the background
Country Club place to go, that this is the elite
of the elite, go for for uh hopefully living, you know, wait,
waiting list. It was the place to be and it
(02:12):
had even something cool like in each room didn't have
something new that was very new at the time. Was
it radio in each one of the rooms or something.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
They had radio and each room we got pictures of
them with their headsets on and listening to the radio.
And it was the top of the line. You know.
That's where electric blankets started out and Tuberculosi's hospitals because
people were laying out on those breezeways and a lot
of things started because of that to try to make
people comfortable. And you know, they couldn't see their families,
(02:43):
a lot of them, and you know they just run,
probably lonely, probably loved sitting there and you know, listening
to the radio, just kicking back and trying to relax,
and they felt horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And hoping to be cured. There was like a huge restaurant,
cafeteria and everything, right.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, they had everything. I met a lady, one dame,
her name, her name was Phyllis Byers, and when she
was telling me about you could smell the ros I
mean when she was telling me the story, you could
just taste this food talk because it was all really good.
You know. They raised their own livestock, they owned, They
had their own eggs and milk, you know, cows to
(03:24):
milk and everything they raised their own potatoes and tomatoes,
and they're totally self contained. But I remember her sitting
there saying, man, you'd smell those roes cooking and you
just couldn't wait to get them. And they would just
oh they were so good. And all of a sudden
she stopped and said, but you know they had bugs
in them. Oh gee, they had bugs in them. And
(03:46):
she's like, yeah, you know, the flower would get weavils
and stuff in it. I guess, And I guess when
the you know, those rolls would heat up, those bugs
would go right to the middle, so you had a
ball of bugs right in the middle there. But oh,
you just pluck that ball out of there and eat
that road. It was still good.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh wow, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Actually it now, you know. Yeah, you know, I guess
when they purchased things, if they did purchase things in
the flower, they had to purchase big quantities.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So I'm sure we will we here and there more.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Oh no, no, never, never, I don't even want to
think about it. So all these people are coming in,
they're sick, they're trying to figure out the cure. They're
believing that the breezeway. I mean, there's no windows. It's
all open. There's like where windows could be, but it's
there's no windows. That's part of the treatment. And and
(04:46):
they they've got this huge cafeteria. You know, if you
ever go to this, I mean everything is huge. Everything
is cool. Like they could dance, they go to they
would dance with each other. They just live their lives.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know, they're very party was a Halloween push.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Their first party was a Halloween party.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
In October, and they're very Halloween party. And they would
you know, crown the King and Queen at the Halloween party.
And you know, they liked it. Whatever they could do
to keep people's morale up, they would do it if
you felt like getting out and doing something. You know,
some people that had a disease, you know, they weren't
(05:23):
you know, they weren't bedridden, right, they got really bad.
You know. So you know, I'm sure the grounds was beautiful.
I've heard you could just go outside and walk around
on the grounds you had set on. At one point
it set on about six hundred acres and started out smaller,
but they kept purchasing more lands. So yeah, it was
(05:45):
kind of like a resort. You know.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, you had said you said you know, the families
couldn't come visit them because they're sick with TV. And
there's all these people with TV. But you but I know,
I've heard some stories that there was a little love
American style going on too, because they would just go
from one floor to the other floor and all of
a sudden go boyfriend and girlfriends.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I met people that married their nurses, I mean, you know,
and I remember this one person telling me that they
would take because you know, the men and women were
separated and on these different floors, and they said that
they would just tear a little hole in the screen,
the copper screens, and they would tie a note and
(06:32):
a string around this note and drop it down to
the next floor, you know, for them to get a
note from them or whatever. And they would meet and
you know, they snuck out of their rooms and all
kinds of things, and they'd play poker. And you know,
I'll forget another lady who had told me about they
would sneak out and they'd play poker. And she was like,
(06:55):
I don't know, fourteen when she was there. You know,
they didn't have their parents there, you know, they couldn't.
And she was playing poker with a bunch of them.
There was this one guy, he was eighteen, and he
let her win all the pennies. They had pennies, and
she tried to give them back to him, and he said, oh, no,
(07:16):
you want them. He was getting ready to have surgery,
you know, one of his lungs removed the next day,
and he said, you keep them and I probably won't
need them after tomorrow. And he didn't. He didn't make it. Oh,
and I remember she cried and she said that was
my first love.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, yeah, instead of sad, some things, there's really sad.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But you know, the reason that I'm even bringing up
these stories is the fact that later on, after you
bought the bill, after it was no longer used anymore,
and you guys purchased it and turned it into what
it is today. A lot of these stories are seen
in a haunted kind of way where people pick it
(08:00):
up as psychics or or people see it and there's
stories behind it. So all these things that were happening
back then, you know, they're like being relived and people
are seeing them now today, and it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That is true. You know, when we purchased it, we
talked about it that you know, we bought it to
favor a piece of history, but didn't even think about
it being haunted. And when I found out right off
the bat, it didn't take long.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
How did you find out it was haunted?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know? So what'd you say? I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
How did you find out it was haunted?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Well? The first time I sat up there, you didn't.
I was in my vehicle. We had called lgn E
and the water company to come up and, you know,
to see about getting some electric and water up there
because there was nothing. And I'm sitting in my pickup
truck waiting for him to show up. You didn't want
to get out because I mean, it was a mess
(08:57):
up there. It was pretty much used it for a
dump and the building was kind of left kind of
open where you know, people could go in there, and
so you didn't want to. You don't want to be
in there by yourself, but you just didn't know what
you're going to run into. And I'm sitting there in
my pickup truck and I'm waiting for them to show up,
(09:17):
and I hear this noise and I'm like, what is that?
And I look over I hear this like a motor,
you know, something moving and I look over and my mirrors,
my electric mirrors on my truck were moving on their own. Oh,
And I was like, what the heck, because I didn't
(09:39):
even I'm like, really, well, then I thought I saw
somebody in the building, which I could have been somebody,
you know, a live person, because you know, like I said,
it was open to the public. Well, I sat there
for as long as I could, and get started getting dark,
and of course they you know who I was waiting for,
and never showed up, and I I just left. I
(10:00):
didn't say, but that was my first thing that I
had happened. And Chris scary, really, I mean, it startled me.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, that's interesting. Yeah, that's kind of funky. That's a
little weird. That's a little strange. Yeah, but let's go
back to the history for a minute again, because there
was something.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
There was a lot of.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Unique things about that building, not just huge and not
just you know, the TV and being like one of
the top places to be in state of the art treatments.
And I think there was even something in between there too,
like a nursing home or something. But there was there
(10:42):
were so many deaths along the way, so many people
were dying, yes, that they had created that shoot. How
did the how did the body shoot come about?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
What a body shoot? Originally was not built to take
bodies down. It was built to bring materials up to
build that building. You know, they built that building in
less than two years. But they couldn't do that now
because they needed it. And I mean in that buildings
built you know it it is it, yeah, it is.
(11:16):
I mean it's made out of concrete and marble and
drazzle and bricks. A lot of bricks were made on
the property also. But they built that body sheet. You know,
it was a maintenance tunnel that went down towards the
railroad tracks for them to bring things up to build
that building. Because it's up on the hill and the
(11:37):
body sheet is you know approximately you know, close to
six hundred feet long, and it's it's a kind of
a hard walk. If you can walk down it, boy,
you better be prepared to come back up.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Man, walking down its just trying to go down there.
It's like, oh, somebody go with me.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, But coming back up, it's gravity pushing to you.
You know, You're like.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Wow, oh no, no, I'd run, I would run. I'm okay, No,
and then they it's scary morale reasons.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
They started using it, you know, to take the bodies down,
and they had to make ship more get the bottom.
And I've had people tell me that they've seen it. It
would actually say more get the bottom and a hears
or a train, come on the train or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
The bodies were diseased a lot of times. Families you know,
they didn't claim these bodies. You know, they couldn't, so
you know, I'm to a cremature, remember where they needed
to go. But that's why they used it, because they
didn't want the patients to see hearses and different things
coming up or pick up the bodies, you know, because
(12:47):
people were dying left and right, and how would that
make you feel your morales? Like, well, I guess I'm
gonna be next. It's gonna be me tomorrow. Yeah, you know,
but that's why they started using the body shoot makes
sense though, and I think it's a great I thought
it was a great idea. You might as well utilize it.
It's already it's there, you know, but driven on a
Pulley system.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah yeah, And if you ever go on a tour there,
you're going to see it. You guys, you're going to
see it and if you if you get to go
and do research there, you'll be that's one of the
places you'll want to go. And a lot of activity
happens you don't.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, if you got any health problems whatsoever, you
do not need to walk down that bud of shoes.
Then you can get activity anywhere. I mean sitting right now.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
You don't have to go down to get activity in
it or so, but a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But it adds to it, Tina. Then it adds to
it when you're there.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's it's come down and come up, break out in
an attack, and then come up. I answer, of course, Segarette.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
You're like, really, hey, they were doing it back then,
why not it's crazy anyway, Yeah, it's it's an amazing place.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And you were talking earlier about this building. When you
come up that hill. Yeah, And I remember the first
time I saw it, I was just like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's not real. It doesn't look real.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
No, I mean, it just turns out when you get
up there, it's just so amazing. It takes your breath away.
It's just something like you've never seen before. And it's
the energy that comes off of it too. It draws you.
And she called I call her she because she has
an attitude in that building. And the reason I think
(14:37):
it's hard. It sounds crazy that that building had so
many people in it, so many many hopes and prayers
and dreams of living. Yeah, coming out of everybody that
walked through those first those doors. That that building is
like it's it's it's not like any other buildings that
(14:57):
can walk into. It's like it's alive. It's just the
feeling that comes from it. And it's like I said,
I know anybody else, that's going to sound crazy, but
if you've ever been there, I know, Connie, you have
to tell me that you feel it too.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, absolutely, that building is alive. It's exactly the way
to say it. And and a lot of people did
survive and they are so thankful that they were there
because they did live.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And you know, I found out from a lady that
I had up there that they interviewed on when Ghost
Adventures was there, was that she said, you never talked
about it. People didn't. You didn't want to talk about
it after you left there. You were happy you survived. Yeah,
(15:48):
but you never talked about it, she said, because people
would treat you like you still had a sure so
you just never talked about it her again. And the
day that she came up here, this is a woman
almost ninety years old, she came up there on a
(16:08):
walker and she was just she just wanted to be
there just one more time, because that's what that place
saved her life. Yeah, and she said, I just Tina,
you don't understand how this makes me feel today, just
being able to be here. And you know, she couldn't
(16:32):
hardly explain it, but and it is hard to explain.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's like wow, especially losing so many other people around you.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, and it's just if you haven't never had anything
life changing like that happened to you, it's just so
hard for you to understand. And she was just a
beautiful woman and I'm talking inside now and thankful and
just I think once she made that, you know, through
(17:04):
that disease, that she must have decided that she was
just going to live a happy life. And you could
just being around her, you know, just made you want
to be around her because she loves a very positive person.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey there, and welcome back to Coast to Coast AM.
I'm Connie Willis. I would love for you to join
my shows, or learn something about my shows, or even
you know, go outside here and listen to the podcast
that I have for you. You can easily do that
just simply go to Connie Willis dot com. You can
find all sorts of everything there and I'd love for
(00:26):
you to be a part of the community and the
family I have. It's a really good time. We have
a good time. We do have a good time, and
we do a lot of fun stuff. We laugh, but
we also investigate for real bigfoot and we've done creepy
hotspots at Waverly Hills what we're talking about tonight. And
we have a good time across the board and it's
all of us hanging out. We're not just bigfooters or
(00:47):
ghost hunters or UFO watchers or any you know, medium society.
It's everything deep into it, not one oh one. So
if you're really serious, you know, yeah, it's a member,
that's right. You got to keep me going. So I'd
love for you to join. Go to Connie Willis dot
com see what works for you, and at least sign
(01:08):
up to get the emails and all start sending those
out soon. There's a lot of work to keep all
this stuff going. So yeah, we've done some of my
creepy hotspots. We've been broadcasting from right there at Waverley
Hills and just amazing things have happened, just with our
live events that we do there and the times that
(01:29):
I've been there, Amazing crazy things that happened now before.
So we have teeny teeny, teeny. We got teeny Tina teenie.
We've got Tina Holy Cow teen and then it's like
help me out here. We have Tina Mattinglee. She's the owner,
her and her husband Charlie, and so Tina, there's amazing stories.
(01:51):
But before we get to the ghosts stories and encounters
and all that kind of stuff, I just want to
let people know a little bit more about the background
Country Club place to go, that this is the elite
of the elite, go for for uh hopefully living, you know, wait,
waiting list. It was the place to be and it
(02:12):
had even something cool like in each room didn't have
something new that was very new at the time. Was
it radio in each one of the rooms or something.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
They had radio and each room we got pictures of
them with their headsets on and listening to the radio.
And it was the top of the line. You know.
That's where electric blankets started out and Tuberculosi's hospitals because
people were laying out on those breezeways and a lot
of things started because of that to try to make
people comfortable. And you know, they couldn't see their families,
(02:43):
a lot of them, and you know they just run,
probably lonely, probably loved sitting there and you know, listening
to the radio, just kicking back and trying to relax,
and they felt horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And hoping to be cured. There was like a huge restaurant,
cafeteria and everything, right.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, they had everything. I met a lady, one dame,
her name, her name was Phyllis Byers, and when she
was telling me about you could smell the ros I
mean when she was telling me the story, you could
just taste this food talk because it was all really good.
You know. They raised their own livestock, they owned, They
had their own eggs and milk, you know, cows to
(03:24):
milk and everything they raised their own potatoes and tomatoes,
and they're totally self contained. But I remember her sitting
there saying, man, you'd smell those roes cooking and you
just couldn't wait to get them. And they would just
oh they were so good. And all of a sudden
she stopped and said, but you know they had bugs
in them. Oh gee, they had bugs in them. And
(03:46):
she's like, yeah, you know, the flower would get weavils
and stuff in it. I guess, And I guess when
the you know, those rolls would heat up, those bugs
would go right to the middle, so you had a
ball of bugs right in the middle there. But oh,
you just pluck that ball out of there and eat
that road. It was still good.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh wow, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Actually it now, you know. Yeah, you know, I guess
when they purchased things, if they did purchase things in
the flower, they had to purchase big quantities.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So I'm sure we will we here and there more.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Oh no, no, never, never, I don't even want to
think about it. So all these people are coming in,
they're sick, they're trying to figure out the cure. They're
believing that the breezeway. I mean, there's no windows. It's
all open. There's like where windows could be, but it's
there's no windows. That's part of the treatment. And and
(04:46):
they they've got this huge cafeteria. You know, if you
ever go to this, I mean everything is huge. Everything
is cool. Like they could dance, they go to they
would dance with each other. They just live their lives.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know, they're very party was a Halloween push.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Their first party was a Halloween party.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
In October, and they're very Halloween party. And they would
you know, crown the King and Queen at the Halloween party.
And you know, they liked it. Whatever they could do
to keep people's morale up, they would do it if
you felt like getting out and doing something. You know,
some people that had a disease, you know, they weren't
(05:23):
you know, they weren't bedridden, right, they got really bad.
You know. So you know, I'm sure the grounds was beautiful.
I've heard you could just go outside and walk around
on the grounds you had set on. At one point
it set on about six hundred acres and started out smaller,
but they kept purchasing more lands. So yeah, it was
(05:45):
kind of like a resort. You know.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, you had said you said you know, the families
couldn't come visit them because they're sick with TV. And
there's all these people with TV. But you but I know,
I've heard some stories that there was a little love
American style going on too, because they would just go
from one floor to the other floor and all of
a sudden go boyfriend and girlfriends.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I met people that married their nurses, I mean, you know,
and I remember this one person telling me that they
would take because you know, the men and women were
separated and on these different floors, and they said that
they would just tear a little hole in the screen,
the copper screens, and they would tie a note and
(06:32):
a string around this note and drop it down to
the next floor, you know, for them to get a
note from them or whatever. And they would meet and
you know, they snuck out of their rooms and all
kinds of things, and they'd play poker. And you know,
I'll forget another lady who had told me about they
would sneak out and they'd play poker. And she was like,
(06:55):
I don't know, fourteen when she was there. You know,
they didn't have their parents there, you know, they couldn't.
And she was playing poker with a bunch of them.
There was this one guy, he was eighteen, and he
let her win all the pennies. They had pennies, and
she tried to give them back to him, and he said, oh, no,
(07:16):
you want them. He was getting ready to have surgery,
you know, one of his lungs removed the next day,
and he said, you keep them and I probably won't
need them after tomorrow. And he didn't. He didn't make it. Oh,
and I remember she cried and she said that was
my first love.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, yeah, instead of sad, some things, there's really sad.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But you know, the reason that I'm even bringing up
these stories is the fact that later on, after you
bought the bill, after it was no longer used anymore,
and you guys purchased it and turned it into what
it is today. A lot of these stories are seen
in a haunted kind of way where people pick it
(08:00):
up as psychics or or people see it and there's
stories behind it. So all these things that were happening
back then, you know, they're like being relived and people
are seeing them now today, and it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
That is true. You know, when we purchased it, we
talked about it that you know, we bought it to
favor a piece of history, but didn't even think about
it being haunted. And when I found out right off
the bat, it didn't take long.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
How did you find out it was haunted?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know? So what'd you say? I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
How did you find out it was haunted?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Well? The first time I sat up there, you didn't.
I was in my vehicle. We had called lgn E
and the water company to come up and, you know,
to see about getting some electric and water up there
because there was nothing. And I'm sitting in my pickup
truck waiting for him to show up. You didn't want
to get out because I mean, it was a mess
(08:57):
up there. It was pretty much used it for a
dump and the building was kind of left kind of
open where you know, people could go in there, and
so you didn't want to. You don't want to be
in there by yourself, but you just didn't know what
you're going to run into. And I'm sitting there in
my pickup truck and I'm waiting for them to show up,
(09:17):
and I hear this noise and I'm like, what is that?
And I look over I hear this like a motor,
you know, something moving and I look over and my mirrors,
my electric mirrors on my truck were moving on their own. Oh,
And I was like, what the heck, because I didn't
(09:39):
even I'm like, really, well, then I thought I saw
somebody in the building, which I could have been somebody,
you know, a live person, because you know, like I said,
it was open to the public. Well, I sat there
for as long as I could, and get started getting dark,
and of course they you know who I was waiting for,
and never showed up, and I I just left. I
(10:00):
didn't say, but that was my first thing that I
had happened. And Chris scary, really, I mean, it startled me.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, that's interesting. Yeah, that's kind of funky. That's a
little weird. That's a little strange. Yeah, but let's go
back to the history for a minute again, because there
was something.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
There was a lot of.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Unique things about that building, not just huge and not
just you know, the TV and being like one of
the top places to be in state of the art treatments.
And I think there was even something in between there too,
like a nursing home or something. But there was there
(10:42):
were so many deaths along the way, so many people
were dying, yes, that they had created that shoot. How
did the how did the body shoot come about?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
What a body shoot? Originally was not built to take
bodies down. It was built to bring materials up to
build that building. You know, they built that building in
less than two years. But they couldn't do that now
because they needed it. And I mean in that buildings
built you know it it is it, yeah, it is.
(11:16):
I mean it's made out of concrete and marble and
drazzle and bricks. A lot of bricks were made on
the property also. But they built that body sheet. You know,
it was a maintenance tunnel that went down towards the
railroad tracks for them to bring things up to build
that building. Because it's up on the hill and the
(11:37):
body sheet is you know approximately you know, close to
six hundred feet long, and it's it's a kind of
a hard walk. If you can walk down it, boy,
you better be prepared to come back up.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Man, walking down its just trying to go down there.
It's like, oh, somebody go with me.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, But coming back up, it's gravity pushing to you.
You know, You're like.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Wow, oh no, no, I'd run, I would run. I'm okay, No,
and then they it's scary morale reasons.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
They started using it, you know, to take the bodies down,
and they had to make ship more get the bottom.
And I've had people tell me that they've seen it. It
would actually say more get the bottom and a hears
or a train, come on the train or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
The bodies were diseased a lot of times. Families you know,
they didn't claim these bodies. You know, they couldn't, so
you know, I'm to a cremature, remember where they needed
to go. But that's why they used it, because they
didn't want the patients to see hearses and different things
coming up or pick up the bodies, you know, because
(12:47):
people were dying left and right, and how would that
make you feel your morales? Like, well, I guess I'm
gonna be next. It's gonna be me tomorrow. Yeah, you know,
but that's why they started using the body shoot makes
sense though, and I think it's a great I thought
it was a great idea. You might as well utilize it.
It's already it's there, you know, but driven on a
Pulley system.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah yeah, And if you ever go on a tour there,
you're going to see it. You guys, you're going to
see it and if you if you get to go
and do research there, you'll be that's one of the
places you'll want to go. And a lot of activity
happens you don't.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean, if you got any health problems whatsoever, you
do not need to walk down that bud of shoes.
Then you can get activity anywhere. I mean sitting right now.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
You don't have to go down to get activity in
it or so, but a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
But it adds to it, Tina. Then it adds to
it when you're there.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's it's come down and come up, break out in
an attack, and then come up. I answer, of course, Segarette.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
You're like, really, hey, they were doing it back then,
why not it's crazy anyway, Yeah, it's it's an amazing place.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And you were talking earlier about this building. When you
come up that hill. Yeah, And I remember the first
time I saw it, I was just like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's not real. It doesn't look real.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
No, I mean, it just turns out when you get
up there, it's just so amazing. It takes your breath away.
It's just something like you've never seen before. And it's
the energy that comes off of it too. It draws you.
And she called I call her she because she has
an attitude in that building. And the reason I think
(14:37):
it's hard. It sounds crazy that that building had so
many people in it, so many many hopes and prayers
and dreams of living. Yeah, coming out of everybody that
walked through those first those doors. That that building is
like it's it's it's not like any other buildings that
(14:57):
can walk into. It's like it's alive. It's just the
feeling that comes from it. And it's like I said,
I know anybody else, that's going to sound crazy, but
if you've ever been there, I know, Connie, you have
to tell me that you feel it too.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, absolutely, that building is alive. It's exactly the way
to say it. And and a lot of people did
survive and they are so thankful that they were there
because they did live.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And you know, I found out from a lady that
I had up there that they interviewed on when Ghost
Adventures was there, was that she said, you never talked
about it. People didn't. You didn't want to talk about
it after you left there. You were happy you survived. Yeah,
(15:48):
but you never talked about it, she said, because people
would treat you like you still had a sure so
you just never talked about it her again. And the
day that she came up here, this is a woman
almost ninety years old, she came up there on a
(16:08):
walker and she was just she just wanted to be
there just one more time, because that's what that place
saved her life. Yeah, and she said, I just Tina,
you don't understand how this makes me feel today, just
being able to be here. And you know, she couldn't
(16:32):
hardly explain it, but and it is hard to explain.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's like wow, especially losing so many other people around you.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, and it's just if you haven't never had anything
life changing like that happened to you, it's just so
hard for you to understand. And she was just a
beautiful woman and I'm talking inside now and thankful and
just I think once she made that, you know, through
(17:04):
that disease, that she must have decided that she was
just going to live a happy life. And you could
just being around her, you know, just made you want
to be around her because she loves a very positive person.
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