March 29, 2023 • 17 mins
George Noory and chemist Steve Colbern explore his findings of past civilizations on Mars that have been covered up by the government, debate what may have happened to these inhabitants, and discuss an implant he had removed from his body following an alien abduction.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor
with your Steve Colburn back with us. He is a
chemist materials scientist twenty plus years experience in chemistry and nanotechnology.
Currently works in the area of carbon nanotubes with his
company dirtron Star Nanotechnology. Steve has analyzed several alleged alien
(00:25):
implants in recent years, worked with doctor Roger lear the
late Steve's research discovered that these objects contain carbon nanotubes
and other nanostructures, indicating that they were sophisticated nanodevices made
by a level of nanotechnology far beyond that of current
mainstream or earthly science. Think about that Steve was the
(00:47):
first researcher outside the government to make this incredible discovery. Steve,
welcome back. How have you been, I've been, Ray, George,
tell us a little. You had an implant removed by
doctor Roger Leard did and you yeah, I was patient
fifteen and his implant removal project. The aliens put an
implant in my left second toe and he removed it
(01:09):
about seven months later. How old were you when you
think they'd might have done this. That was back in
two thousand and eight. I was, I was forty eight
years old. What was the episode? How how did this happen?
That's your mint call. Well, my wife had just had
(01:31):
given birth to our daughter a couple of months before,
and she was over at her parents' house. Her mom
was helping out with the baby. And then I stopped
over at our house to water the plants and do
a few things, and got tired, told him I was
going to spend the night over there. And I heard
some wrestling in the backyard and went out in the
(01:51):
backyard and found them two enormous raccoons in our avocado
tree eating avocados. And these were were big, I mean
they were. They were just astonished me the size of
the thing. So one was about about seventy pounds, at
the size of a of a husky dog something like that,
and you get them with somewhat smaller, maybe fifty pounds,
(02:13):
and I didn't even know they got that big. And
I fed the animals on cat food and observed them
for a while, and then got tired and went to bed.
And we had a lot of strange activity in the
house in the weeks prior to that, and I woke
up about eight o'clock the next morning and the sides
(02:35):
of my head were kind of sore, you know. I
had a weird stinging pain and my left second toe,
and I knew that the aliens had just had a
strong gut feeling that the aliens had been there in
the middle of the night. And then I had two
more implants. What do you think they wanted with you,
stephen Um. I think they're putting in a They're putting
in an implant to monitor my bodily uh parameters. I
(02:59):
think that the almost to monitor body temperature, blood oxygenation
and things like that. Were they interested in what you
were working on? Perhaps, I'm not really sure. I know
that they want my help for installing equipment and helping
(03:19):
with medical procedures and things like that. I've remembered a
lot of it under hypnotic aggression. Later on, What did
our friend doctor Lear say about this, Well, he didn't
believe me at first. He thought that he thought that
I was some crank and um. But he gave me
a prescription to get the toe X ray and told
(03:40):
him to give a copy of the film to the
patient and They gave me the copy of the film
after we forgot an X ray, and I knew that
I was going to see something holding it up to
the light. But when I did, it was a life
changing event. Like I tell everybody, it's um it's um uh.
One thing to strongly suspect that something like this is
(04:02):
going on with you, it's quite another matter to have
proof and to know for sure. And it looked like
a bad piece of wire on the X ray. It
looks smaller on smaller on the X ray than it
was when when I was removed. Fascinating. Now, how did
you get involved in studying Mars. I've just been interested
(04:22):
in Mars for a long time and I thought it
really ties into the alien phenomenon because there's evidence of
past civilization there and that's the most earth like planets
in the Solar System. Tell us the kind of work
you've been doing about Mars, Steve, There's been a huge
cover up going on in Mars since the nineteen fifties.
(04:45):
Apparently the ground based astronomers Percival loll and VC Sliper
and a couple others knew that there was evidence of
past civilization and planet life at least, and there's plant
life that varies with the seasons. UM. You can see
you can see that in the photographs from the from
(05:08):
the Hubble space telescope and the rovers and the various
rovers and orbiters that have been UM sent to Mars.
Saw I saw a picture on Mars once that looked
like a bunch of trees. You remember that one? Yeah,
oh yeah, I've got the picture here. There's definitely trees
in the south polar region because that's the region with
(05:28):
the most water during the summer in that hemisphere UM,
and some of those trees are like half a kilometer across.
It looked like a giant bannion trees. That is it
just vegetation life that's on Mars in your opinion? Another
there's apparently at least simple the life. There's been pictures
of what looked like insects from the rovers, and one
(05:49):
of a rat like creature which certainly certatly looked that
way anyway, a little reptile or something. Yeah, and I
haven't a reptile. And there have been photographs of well,
look like a statue head or space helmet UM or
perhaps a skull. I'm not it's not for sure what
it is, but it's definitely either humanoid remains or um
(06:15):
something some artifact Chinese rover found some water on the Moon.
What do you think about Mars which was laden with
water at one time, wasn't it? Yeah, there used to
be a lot more water on Mars. There's there's still
a fair amount, not as much as on Earth. But
there's mud um the landing side of the I believe
(06:37):
it was the spirit rover was quite muddy, and NASA
invented a lot of excuses as to why that's not
mud and liquid water can't exist on Mars, but um.
I think most people know mud when they see it.
And the tripe is that the Viking lenders detected humidity
(06:57):
on Mars. So even even if they're right and the
pressure is too low for liquid water to exist, ordinarily,
where is it going to go at hundred percent humidity?
It's a lit'll evaporate and moral come in from the air,
so it's not going No liquid is going anywhere if
the atmosphere is saturated with his vapor um. And also
if water has a lot of dissolved salts, the vapor
(07:20):
pressure and boiling vapor pressure is lowered and the boiling
points ellivated. So are there clouds in Mars? Yeah, there's um.
There's quite a few clouds, and the Mars polar lander
actually saw it snow there at one point. Yeah, they
didn't make a big deal about that, but I saw
the films for the pictures. What's the atmosphere like, steve
(07:45):
um according to NASA at six to nine mill bars,
which is about one one hundredth as dense as Earth.
Um that I kind of have an issue with. The
ground based astronomers thought it was more like more like
a tenth as dense as Earth. It's much thinner than
it's in any event. Um. The atmospheric compositions mostly CO two,
but ninety five percent CO two, maybe three percent nitrogen,
(08:08):
one point six percent are gone, point one three percent oxygen,
point zero three percent of water vapor, and a trace
of neon um. In the case of the oxygen. Even
if NASA's rife at the oxygen levels only point one
three percent, even that level of oxygen would probably require
pot plant life to maintain because oxygen is such a
(08:29):
reactive Guess what about the canals again? That the Lowells
was able to see um, Well, I saw him for
myself during the close Opposition of two thousand and three
through an eight inch telescope. I didn't believe in all
this at the time, and I was looking at Mars
(08:50):
through the telescope at high magnification, and um, I noticed
that whenever the looking at the planet through a telescope
is like looking through something through um, you know, water
or a swimming pool. Um. Everyone, Every once in a
while the surface will get calm and then you can
see things better. And it's kind of like that with
(09:11):
the atmosphere. Every every couple of minutes, the atmosphere clears
up for a few seconds. And when that happened, I
was seeing wins on Mars and I'm going like, fully,
you know what these things are real? Um? Um, they've
been acting like uh personal lol, as a lunatic for
(09:31):
believing in that. He's not the only one that saw
him though. Um. Can they still be seen there? What's up?
Can they still be seen there? Oh? Yeah, Yeah, there's
pictures from from orbit that that show them pretty clearly.
There's actually water seepages into the into the canals or
um whatever you want to call them. But yeah, there's
(09:54):
large large ditches or canal or channels all over the
planet that have water seepage into them that may have
been used as an irrigation system at one time by
the inhabitants. What kind of other signs of past civilizations
might have been present on Mars? And what do you
think Mars might have been like millions of years ago?
(10:17):
Millions of years ago, Mars was was wetter, and there
were shallow oceans, um and uh, there was probably more
plant life and probably more animal life as well as
far as evidence of past civilization. There's shapes and pictures
in the ground, pyramids, statues like the face on Mars.
(10:39):
That's that's the probability of the face on Mars and
the Sidonian region being just a trick of light and shadow,
like NASA says, is vanishingly small. The Biking some members
of the Viking imaging team came to that conclusion a
long time ago. I said doctor Tom ben Plander, form
(10:59):
head of the NA of the Naval Observatory. He was
one of the good ones, wasn't he. Oh yeah, he
was a great guy. But why isn't it Why is
NASSAS so reluctant Steve to tell us about this stuff? Well,
I think the reason is because um there's been the
UFO controversy for for years since um since the end
(11:22):
of World War two at least, And I think that
if they admitted that there's um plant, even if they
admitted that there's plant life or simple organisms on the
planet right next door, that would make the whole alien
UFO thing much more likely in the public mind. Absolutely.
(11:44):
And in terms of Mars, do you think it was
once laden with a population. Yeah, there's some evidence that,
particularly from the Martian or the Soviet probe Pobos one,
that there might still be population there. They came up
with an infrared photograph that showed what looked like an
(12:06):
underground city then, and it's a higher temperature than the
surrounding so it's probably currently inhabited. I think that's currently
inhabited at a very low population density, is my opinion.
Where the rest of the inhabitants goal all underground or
did they come here They probably died off. Mars was
(12:27):
once a moon of the original planet four in that orbit,
according to Tom ben Flounder, and the one that blew
up and became the asteroid belt. Yeah, planet four exploded
millions of years ago, and that's why on one side
of Mars is heavily cratered and the other side is
relatively smooth. That the heavily crater side was the one
(12:49):
facing the explosion. As a scientist, what have your peers
and colleagues say about this? Well, I'm not a mainstream scientist.
I go where the data takes me, and I don't
just wantingly believe it's in the textbooks, and I take
my lead from people from Maverick scientists like doctor Van Blandern,
(13:12):
and I just read what I read, what's out there,
and look at the evidence. In this case, photographs from
Mars have been taken recently, and just from my own conclusions,
and then your best guess what's going on Mars right now? Well,
I think they're like I said, there's um there's some
(13:34):
plant life and um lins on the rocks and bushes.
In areas with high water photosynthetic bacteria you can see
a layer of photo looks like photosynthetic bacteria blue blue
green analogy. But it's also known as in some areas
on the river photographs these discoveries would be fantastics, do
(13:56):
you wouldn't they need to go public with Yeah? Well,
I wrote a report on Mars back in two thousand
and three, after seeing the canals for myself and reading
up on all this and looking at the NASA data,
and I sent you a copy. There's a lot of
photographs there. And one thing that that is really fiction
(14:19):
that they show the public a lot is this total
redded out sky version of Mars. The sky is actually
blue or gray, and it looks it looks more like
Arizona than what they show on the press release photos
of Mars. It's like they turned the red way, probably
not had all the green on the rocks. That is
(14:40):
fascinating to be sure, isn't it. Yeah, it's definitely really something.
Does any of this shock you? Oh? Yeah, chocked the
heck out of me. I was amazed that they were
distorting the facts to the sixth Con. I've been amazed
about a lot of a lot of things like that,
and looking into um space and the UFO thing in general.
(15:05):
Do you think Mars is the only planet outside of
Earth in our Solar System that might have been inhabited.
I'm not sure. There seems to be a cover up
going on about Venus too. I'm not sure I believe
the government's assertions that the surfaces nine hundred degrees fahrenheit
and that the surface pressures or fifteen hundred degrees fifteen
(15:26):
their psium. That seems a little bit of a stretch
to me, And I think I find that strange that
there have been a dozen spacecrafts into Venus over the
last few decades, but there's very little data available about
Venus that's been sent to the public. But I just
(15:48):
I don't know what to believe on Venus. So Steve
Colburne with us, We're going to take go ahead, go ahead, Steven.
People back in the fifties just to think it was
some sort of a swamp on it that, um, you know,
the juries. The jury still out on that as far
as I'm concerned. Do you think our Mars rovers were
able to capture some of these pictures and strange things
(16:11):
and NASA just never gave them to us. They didn't
give some of them to us. But on another area,
they're just putting out thousands of photographs and you have
to wade through all the mundane photographs to get to
the good stuff. And I think part of the reason
that there was there were no Mars missions between nineteen
(16:33):
seventy six, when biking landed and the next mission in
the mid nineties was because they wanted to wait until
image tampering, a computer technology had caught up sufficiently so
that they could they could airbrush it out any signs
of life or civilization. What do you think will happen
when we send astronauts up there? I think this is
(16:56):
all going to come to light. I think that that
they're going to have to admit it to the public.
And and that's a scientist that I talked to you.
Tho was introduced to me by Whitley Streeperum actually said
during an argument that we had over Mars and private
aerospace efforts, that that they had an agenda that says
(17:19):
an agenda. They released this stuff very slowly to the public.
He got so upset when I when I praised private
aerospace efforts for the I think he said some things
he shouldn't have said, yeah, or wasn't supposed to say.
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor
with your Steve Colburn back with us. He is a
chemist materials scientist twenty plus years experience in chemistry and nanotechnology.
Currently works in the area of carbon nanotubes with his
company dirtron Star Nanotechnology. Steve has analyzed several alleged alien
(00:25):
implants in recent years, worked with doctor Roger lear the
late Steve's research discovered that these objects contain carbon nanotubes
and other nanostructures, indicating that they were sophisticated nanodevices made
by a level of nanotechnology far beyond that of current
mainstream or earthly science. Think about that Steve was the
(00:47):
first researcher outside the government to make this incredible discovery. Steve,
welcome back. How have you been, I've been, Ray, George,
tell us a little. You had an implant removed by
doctor Roger Leard did and you yeah, I was patient
fifteen and his implant removal project. The aliens put an
implant in my left second toe and he removed it
(01:09):
about seven months later. How old were you when you
think they'd might have done this. That was back in
two thousand and eight. I was, I was forty eight
years old. What was the episode? How how did this happen?
That's your mint call. Well, my wife had just had
(01:31):
given birth to our daughter a couple of months before,
and she was over at her parents' house. Her mom
was helping out with the baby. And then I stopped
over at our house to water the plants and do
a few things, and got tired, told him I was
going to spend the night over there. And I heard
some wrestling in the backyard and went out in the
(01:51):
backyard and found them two enormous raccoons in our avocado
tree eating avocados. And these were were big, I mean
they were. They were just astonished me the size of
the thing. So one was about about seventy pounds, at
the size of a of a husky dog something like that,
and you get them with somewhat smaller, maybe fifty pounds,
(02:13):
and I didn't even know they got that big. And
I fed the animals on cat food and observed them
for a while, and then got tired and went to bed.
And we had a lot of strange activity in the
house in the weeks prior to that, and I woke
up about eight o'clock the next morning and the sides
(02:35):
of my head were kind of sore, you know. I
had a weird stinging pain and my left second toe,
and I knew that the aliens had just had a
strong gut feeling that the aliens had been there in
the middle of the night. And then I had two
more implants. What do you think they wanted with you,
stephen Um. I think they're putting in a They're putting
in an implant to monitor my bodily uh parameters. I
(02:59):
think that the almost to monitor body temperature, blood oxygenation
and things like that. Were they interested in what you
were working on? Perhaps, I'm not really sure. I know
that they want my help for installing equipment and helping
(03:19):
with medical procedures and things like that. I've remembered a
lot of it under hypnotic aggression. Later on, What did
our friend doctor Lear say about this, Well, he didn't
believe me at first. He thought that he thought that
I was some crank and um. But he gave me
a prescription to get the toe X ray and told
(03:40):
him to give a copy of the film to the
patient and They gave me the copy of the film
after we forgot an X ray, and I knew that
I was going to see something holding it up to
the light. But when I did, it was a life
changing event. Like I tell everybody, it's um it's um uh.
One thing to strongly suspect that something like this is
(04:02):
going on with you, it's quite another matter to have
proof and to know for sure. And it looked like
a bad piece of wire on the X ray. It
looks smaller on smaller on the X ray than it
was when when I was removed. Fascinating. Now, how did
you get involved in studying Mars. I've just been interested
(04:22):
in Mars for a long time and I thought it
really ties into the alien phenomenon because there's evidence of
past civilization there and that's the most earth like planets
in the Solar System. Tell us the kind of work
you've been doing about Mars, Steve, There's been a huge
cover up going on in Mars since the nineteen fifties.
(04:45):
Apparently the ground based astronomers Percival loll and VC Sliper
and a couple others knew that there was evidence of
past civilization and planet life at least, and there's plant
life that varies with the seasons. UM. You can see
you can see that in the photographs from the from
(05:08):
the Hubble space telescope and the rovers and the various
rovers and orbiters that have been UM sent to Mars.
Saw I saw a picture on Mars once that looked
like a bunch of trees. You remember that one? Yeah,
oh yeah, I've got the picture here. There's definitely trees
in the south polar region because that's the region with
(05:28):
the most water during the summer in that hemisphere UM,
and some of those trees are like half a kilometer across.
It looked like a giant bannion trees. That is it
just vegetation life that's on Mars in your opinion? Another
there's apparently at least simple the life. There's been pictures
of what looked like insects from the rovers, and one
(05:49):
of a rat like creature which certainly certatly looked that
way anyway, a little reptile or something. Yeah, and I
haven't a reptile. And there have been photographs of well,
look like a statue head or space helmet UM or
perhaps a skull. I'm not it's not for sure what
it is, but it's definitely either humanoid remains or um
(06:15):
something some artifact Chinese rover found some water on the Moon.
What do you think about Mars which was laden with
water at one time, wasn't it? Yeah, there used to
be a lot more water on Mars. There's there's still
a fair amount, not as much as on Earth. But
there's mud um the landing side of the I believe
(06:37):
it was the spirit rover was quite muddy, and NASA
invented a lot of excuses as to why that's not
mud and liquid water can't exist on Mars, but um.
I think most people know mud when they see it.
And the tripe is that the Viking lenders detected humidity
(06:57):
on Mars. So even even if they're right and the
pressure is too low for liquid water to exist, ordinarily,
where is it going to go at hundred percent humidity?
It's a lit'll evaporate and moral come in from the air,
so it's not going No liquid is going anywhere if
the atmosphere is saturated with his vapor um. And also
if water has a lot of dissolved salts, the vapor
(07:20):
pressure and boiling vapor pressure is lowered and the boiling
points ellivated. So are there clouds in Mars? Yeah, there's um.
There's quite a few clouds, and the Mars polar lander
actually saw it snow there at one point. Yeah, they
didn't make a big deal about that, but I saw
the films for the pictures. What's the atmosphere like, steve
(07:45):
um according to NASA at six to nine mill bars,
which is about one one hundredth as dense as Earth.
Um that I kind of have an issue with. The
ground based astronomers thought it was more like more like
a tenth as dense as Earth. It's much thinner than
it's in any event. Um. The atmospheric compositions mostly CO two,
but ninety five percent CO two, maybe three percent nitrogen,
(08:08):
one point six percent are gone, point one three percent oxygen,
point zero three percent of water vapor, and a trace
of neon um. In the case of the oxygen. Even
if NASA's rife at the oxygen levels only point one
three percent, even that level of oxygen would probably require
pot plant life to maintain because oxygen is such a
(08:29):
reactive Guess what about the canals again? That the Lowells
was able to see um, Well, I saw him for
myself during the close Opposition of two thousand and three
through an eight inch telescope. I didn't believe in all
this at the time, and I was looking at Mars
(08:50):
through the telescope at high magnification, and um, I noticed
that whenever the looking at the planet through a telescope
is like looking through something through um, you know, water
or a swimming pool. Um. Everyone, Every once in a
while the surface will get calm and then you can
see things better. And it's kind of like that with
(09:11):
the atmosphere. Every every couple of minutes, the atmosphere clears
up for a few seconds. And when that happened, I
was seeing wins on Mars and I'm going like, fully,
you know what these things are real? Um? Um, they've
been acting like uh personal lol, as a lunatic for
(09:31):
believing in that. He's not the only one that saw
him though. Um. Can they still be seen there? What's up?
Can they still be seen there? Oh? Yeah, Yeah, there's
pictures from from orbit that that show them pretty clearly.
There's actually water seepages into the into the canals or
um whatever you want to call them. But yeah, there's
(09:54):
large large ditches or canal or channels all over the
planet that have water seepage into them that may have
been used as an irrigation system at one time by
the inhabitants. What kind of other signs of past civilizations
might have been present on Mars? And what do you
think Mars might have been like millions of years ago?
(10:17):
Millions of years ago, Mars was was wetter, and there
were shallow oceans, um and uh, there was probably more
plant life and probably more animal life as well as
far as evidence of past civilization. There's shapes and pictures
in the ground, pyramids, statues like the face on Mars.
(10:39):
That's that's the probability of the face on Mars and
the Sidonian region being just a trick of light and shadow,
like NASA says, is vanishingly small. The Biking some members
of the Viking imaging team came to that conclusion a
long time ago. I said doctor Tom ben Plander, form
(10:59):
head of the NA of the Naval Observatory. He was
one of the good ones, wasn't he. Oh yeah, he
was a great guy. But why isn't it Why is
NASSAS so reluctant Steve to tell us about this stuff? Well,
I think the reason is because um there's been the
UFO controversy for for years since um since the end
(11:22):
of World War two at least, And I think that
if they admitted that there's um plant, even if they
admitted that there's plant life or simple organisms on the
planet right next door, that would make the whole alien
UFO thing much more likely in the public mind. Absolutely.
(11:44):
And in terms of Mars, do you think it was
once laden with a population. Yeah, there's some evidence that,
particularly from the Martian or the Soviet probe Pobos one,
that there might still be population there. They came up
with an infrared photograph that showed what looked like an
(12:06):
underground city then, and it's a higher temperature than the
surrounding so it's probably currently inhabited. I think that's currently
inhabited at a very low population density, is my opinion.
Where the rest of the inhabitants goal all underground or
did they come here They probably died off. Mars was
(12:27):
once a moon of the original planet four in that orbit,
according to Tom ben Flounder, and the one that blew
up and became the asteroid belt. Yeah, planet four exploded
millions of years ago, and that's why on one side
of Mars is heavily cratered and the other side is
relatively smooth. That the heavily crater side was the one
(12:49):
facing the explosion. As a scientist, what have your peers
and colleagues say about this? Well, I'm not a mainstream scientist.
I go where the data takes me, and I don't
just wantingly believe it's in the textbooks, and I take
my lead from people from Maverick scientists like doctor Van Blandern,
(13:12):
and I just read what I read, what's out there,
and look at the evidence. In this case, photographs from
Mars have been taken recently, and just from my own conclusions,
and then your best guess what's going on Mars right now? Well,
I think they're like I said, there's um there's some
(13:34):
plant life and um lins on the rocks and bushes.
In areas with high water photosynthetic bacteria you can see
a layer of photo looks like photosynthetic bacteria blue blue
green analogy. But it's also known as in some areas
on the river photographs these discoveries would be fantastics, do
(13:56):
you wouldn't they need to go public with Yeah? Well,
I wrote a report on Mars back in two thousand
and three, after seeing the canals for myself and reading
up on all this and looking at the NASA data,
and I sent you a copy. There's a lot of
photographs there. And one thing that that is really fiction
(14:19):
that they show the public a lot is this total
redded out sky version of Mars. The sky is actually
blue or gray, and it looks it looks more like
Arizona than what they show on the press release photos
of Mars. It's like they turned the red way, probably
not had all the green on the rocks. That is
(14:40):
fascinating to be sure, isn't it. Yeah, it's definitely really something.
Does any of this shock you? Oh? Yeah, chocked the
heck out of me. I was amazed that they were
distorting the facts to the sixth Con. I've been amazed
about a lot of a lot of things like that,
and looking into um space and the UFO thing in general.
(15:05):
Do you think Mars is the only planet outside of
Earth in our Solar System that might have been inhabited.
I'm not sure. There seems to be a cover up
going on about Venus too. I'm not sure I believe
the government's assertions that the surfaces nine hundred degrees fahrenheit
and that the surface pressures or fifteen hundred degrees fifteen
(15:26):
their psium. That seems a little bit of a stretch
to me, And I think I find that strange that
there have been a dozen spacecrafts into Venus over the
last few decades, but there's very little data available about
Venus that's been sent to the public. But I just
(15:48):
I don't know what to believe on Venus. So Steve
Colburne with us, We're going to take go ahead, go ahead, Steven.
People back in the fifties just to think it was
some sort of a swamp on it that, um, you know,
the juries. The jury still out on that as far
as I'm concerned. Do you think our Mars rovers were
able to capture some of these pictures and strange things
(16:11):
and NASA just never gave them to us. They didn't
give some of them to us. But on another area,
they're just putting out thousands of photographs and you have
to wade through all the mundane photographs to get to
the good stuff. And I think part of the reason
that there was there were no Mars missions between nineteen
(16:33):
seventy six, when biking landed and the next mission in
the mid nineties was because they wanted to wait until
image tampering, a computer technology had caught up sufficiently so
that they could they could airbrush it out any signs
of life or civilization. What do you think will happen
when we send astronauts up there? I think this is
(16:56):
all going to come to light. I think that that
they're going to have to admit it to the public.
And and that's a scientist that I talked to you.
Tho was introduced to me by Whitley Streeperum actually said
during an argument that we had over Mars and private
aerospace efforts, that that they had an agenda that says
(17:19):
an agenda. They released this stuff very slowly to the public.
He got so upset when I when I praised private
aerospace efforts for the I think he said some things
he shouldn't have said, yeah, or wasn't supposed to say.
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