June 11, 2019 • 18 mins
George Noory and psychic medium Marty Rosenblatt explore his work as a remote viewer, his theories on the collective consciousness of all humans that could aid telepathic communication, and whether people can have precognition to view the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast Marty Rosenblatt
with us. He has an MS in physics from UCLA
worked for thirty five years in areas of high energy
physics using computational techniques. He's the president of the Applied
Precognition Project APP and also dedicated to education and development
(00:23):
of precog pros. We'll tell you about that. And these
are natural follow ups to Physics Intuition Applications, which he
founded back in nineteen ninety eight. Marty, Welcome back to
the program. How are you. I'm doing great, Thank you,
How are you doing great? Thanks for joining us. You
know yesterday we were using clips of you and our
Beyond Belief television shows. People love you. Oh wow, that's terrific.
(00:48):
Thank you. How did you get started in this? How
did you go from your background in physics to getting
involved in I'm not going to call it the supernatural,
but it's different. That's right, because most of what's called supernatural,
I believe is actually natural but unusual. I got involved
in this because of my work high energy physics included
(01:14):
simulating nuclear weapons way back when in the late nineteen
sixties and seventies, and so I had security clearances and
I was actually doing some work with the Defense Intelligence
Agency and I came across this report in the I
(01:35):
TRIPLEE Journal which talked about this strange thing and they
had named it remote viewing. They couldn't use psychic phenomenon.
And I went to the DA and they said, God,
you guys really need to know about this. Later I
found out they were funding it, but I didn't know
that at the time. They sent me out to Stafford
Research Institute and I actually met how Putoff and Russ
(01:58):
tar As you know, who were running program at SRI.
They showed me around and I got to meet them,
and of course I was so impressed with their work
that I stayed involved thereafter, you know, the interest level
and following the literature and that sort of thing. Have
(02:20):
you come up with your own thoughts on why remote
viewing works and how it works? Um? Yes, And I'm
really glad you asked that, because there's a model I've
been working on for a very long time, going way
way back when I was working with Skip Atwater, who
(02:44):
you know, was ahead of the Army remote viewing unit
at Fort Meade. But then he went to the to
work with the Monroe Institute, and he did work at
the Monroe Institute and through various webinars there. Each time
(03:06):
I went there, I developed this model further, and it
basically comes from the fact that consciousness itself is fundamental.
Give me a few moments here, let me try to
explain it. Put sure absolutely remote viewing very directly around
for two hours marter. You got all the time you need, hope,
(03:28):
and you obviously feel free to jump in and ask
questions if I'm not being as clear as I can.
But the leaders of quantum mechanics themselves came to the
conclusion that consciousness is fundamental because the strange world of
quantum mechanics forced them to do that, because of what
(03:51):
is called the measurement problem. It is if when you
get down to these very very small particles or even
photons light and you start looking at that, you find
that it doesn't really have a reality in the physical
world until it's measured prior to that, it is a
(04:14):
probability field basically, and what Schrodinger said, you know, the
Schrodinger equation is a fundamental equation. Quantum mechanics. Consciousness cannot
be accounted for in physical terms. For consciousness is absolutely fundamental.
It cannot be accounted for in terms of anything else.
(04:38):
And Max Plank and it's worth reading these quotes because
you have to realize these guys were struggling with this
issue of what is this consciousness all about? Didn't they Well,
they came up with great equations, but they really well, Okay,
here's Planks quote. I regard consciousness is fundamental. I regard
(05:02):
matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness.
Now that idea goes way back, and my being a physicist,
it's almost like I had no choice to put it
in the form of a model. And that's what I
(05:25):
kind of want to tell you about now, because it
explains not only remote viewing, in my opinion, explains virtually
all PSI phenomenon, including of course telepathy and really all
the other PSI phenomenon. A lot of people, Marty, doctors
and scientists, always assumed that you needed the physical brain
(05:50):
to do any of this, and I'm convinced sounds like
you're convinced that it's outside of the brain that makes
this work. That's absolute right. The source is this I
call it just to give you the idea, and I've
named it the universe of collective consciousness. The US I
(06:15):
call mine the wireless inert of the universe, okay, and
Ingo Swan called it the matrix, you know. And there
are traditions that call the energy that comes from and
I'll talk about that in a minute. G I mean,
it isn't like this is a new idea, but in
(06:36):
the context that I'd like to think about it and
where it connects up with remote viewing and other psiphenomenon,
it's really good to think of it as the universe
of collective consciousness. So what is this most fundamental thing
it contains? And the only way I can use words
to explain it is everything consciousness touches. So your conscious
(07:02):
mind is aware of the room you're in now, okay,
And we tend to think of that as being in
the physical world, and it is, but you're here and
now conscious moment is your experience. Your experience is consciousness,
and that goes down in the universe of collective consciousness. Well,
(07:26):
any idea that anybody any conscious experience, idea that anybody
in the universe has ever had is in this universe
of collective consciousness, and this includes past, present, and future.
Knowing precognition forced me to struggle with these ideas, but
(07:49):
it's absolutely clear that this universal collectives consciousness includes everything, past, present,
and future, that any sentient at, any sent in being
or others as mentioned in a moment, like rocks, whatever
their experience in what we look at as a physical world,
(08:12):
is down in this universal collective consciousness. In fact, it
comes from there. Now, this universal collective consciousness is everything.
It has no boundary because imagine if Nora, you came
up with this great idea for another eye, something that
(08:33):
oh no, this ought to be outside whether as soon
as that idea crossed your head it had to go
into this universal collective consciousness. So the UCC has no boundary.
It's a lot like the physical world, frankly, no boundary,
no walls, nothing ending it. Now, what does this mean
(08:55):
in my mind? And I think you know you and
your list listeners can kind of get that in a way,
this is the ultimate meaning of oneness. I mean, it's
totally everything is down there. There are no separations, no boundaries.
I think in fact, it's probably pure spirituality. When we
(09:18):
talk about getting in touch with pure spirituality, pure harmony,
this universal collective consciousness, which is not yet in the
physical world, is that it's ultimate oneness, ultimate spirituality. But
now let's go one step further. What do we do
(09:38):
in our day to day physical lives. We have this
idea of things being separate. We bring out a computer monitor,
we bring out ourselves as a separate being. But in
fact we have these fuzzy boundaries. We can't be perfectly
(09:58):
well the mind. And there's this concept from the UCC
bringing out something which we believe is separate. This introduces
what I want to call entanglement energy. You are still
(10:20):
you can't disconnect from the universe of collective consciousness. There
needs to be some energy to maintain this illusion of separateness.
Lots of other people have used that word before, but
now it comes directly out of this model. You try
(10:40):
to bring out something and make it separate, and you
try to keep it in the physical world. So you're
now bringing it out and it's in the physical world
as a separate thing. Well, that takes energy. If you
started out with the UCC, so that's entanglement energy. And
this entanglement energy does one other thing. It creates and
(11:06):
maintains a communication channel because you, your ideas, your conscious
moments are still in the UCC, they're coming out and
this so you're always in communication with the UCC. Would
(11:26):
you say that the collective consciousness allows us to communicate,
let's say, telepathically, because it's we're all hooked in. Well, see,
that's exactly right, since since this oneness of the UCC,
it's got no boundaries, you know, it's I sometimes call
it a circle without a boundary. And my graphics which
(11:49):
says we're all connected all the time. The issue is
how entangled are we. We're entangled with every thing, past, present,
and future to a certain extent. But guess what, we
are clearly entangled to some things more than another. And
(12:11):
so it's this examination of the entanglement energy that becomes
absolutely clear and that's important. Let me connect this with
remote viewing. But there's so much more depth to this,
but maybe it'll become clearer with remote viewing and associative
remote viewing. But and what okay, yeah, I'm sure your
(12:35):
visitors know about remote viewing. Associative remote viewing is using
remote viewing to be associated with the outcome of say
a sporting event or a financial event. Let's talk sporting event. Okay,
(12:56):
all right. Basically, to make a prediction about a boarding
event exactly. And let's say the two teams team A
and Team B. If I, as a tasker, were to
associate Team A winning with one picture, say the Eiffel Tower,
and Team B winning with a whale underwater, a great
(13:25):
picture of an underwater whale or something interesting. Analogy huh, okay,
two teams, two pictures. Well, associative remote viewing. Ask the
remote viewers to describe and sketch the picture they're going
to see in the future after the game is over. Okay, Okay,
(13:45):
Team AIR wins, they'll see the Eiffel Tower. If Team
B wins, they'll see the whale under the way. They
already know though, that Team A is the Eiffel Tower, right,
and Team B is the whale. Oh no, no, oh
they don't. That's the whole point. Okay, I get it.
The only way they can get a good description is
to use their precognitive remote viewing capabilities of moving into
(14:10):
the future and seeing what it's called the feedback target. Now,
what are the odds of any of them? Let's say
you had ten remote viewers in a room and you said,
do you give me the outcome of this game, what
are the odds of any of them sketching the Eiffel Tower. Well, again,
not exactly. They'll typically say things like metal ooh, maybe
(14:34):
triangular shape. They might even say turisty open, and then
they will probably draw just because that's so iconical. I said,
a triangle or something like that. You know, at all
narrow sketch do they do? They even know that they're
looking at a sports storm or anything. They don't need
(14:55):
to know that, but yeah, generally we let them know that,
but no more and then get this. We get their transcript.
We can judge it, they can judge it. But the
key is they don't get the feedback until lafter the event.
And that's the association. It's associated with what actually happens.
The picture is and typically the best viewers right now
(15:20):
are leveling off, it seems, and we think we can
do better, We think we can get up, and we're
working to get up to seventy five eight percent over
the longest term. But right now they're like sixty sixty
five percent. That's still pretty good. Now, who knows at
the outset about the Eiffel Tower and the and the whale.
(15:40):
Who knows that the person in charge of the remote
viewing program actually the way it's done in our system
on you know, the applied Precognition project is with the computer.
It's all done randomly. We have really that's interesting. Yeah,
we have eight hundred pre chosen photo graphs. Okay, we
(16:01):
call the photocytes because these guys can pick up sounds
and taste and everything the remote viewers do. But the
computer will actually randomly choose a pre chosen pair okay,
as the possibilities, and then only one of them will
turn out to be the actual target. Let's talk about
(16:25):
precognition for a moment, Marty, in terms of what you
think it might be, the ability to see things in
the future. How many people see these things and don't
react to it until after the fact, and then they go,
oh my gosh, I knew this would happen, right, And
that happens a lot. And that's why you don't even
(16:48):
have to do all the research. And it's been an
enormous round of research now done by scientists validating that
precognition occurs even though we don't have a model and
that's what upsets so many other scientists. But the reality
of it comes, I believe from this UCC because the
(17:10):
outcome is down there already and what we do and
what all remote viewers do, even that just remote viewing
a place where there's a missing person to get about
the sociate of remote viewing. What they're doing is getting
in touch with very strong intention and expectation and attention
(17:35):
to their task. And so somehow, and I mean this
is one of the biggest mysteries I would say in
the universe. Somehow consciousness can connect up with what's intended
to be found. Now, when there's feedback, you can see
(17:55):
how that would help because during the feedback session you
add this entanglement energy, okay, and it's through you. You know,
your DNA is vibrating all the time. And guess what
your DNA was vibrating with other unique things to you
(18:18):
during the remote viewing session, and now it's vibrating during
the feedback session after you know the truth and the
entanglement between those two is what makes precognition possible. Listen
to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one
am Eastern and go to Coast to coast am dot
(18:39):
com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast Marty Rosenblatt
with us. He has an MS in physics from UCLA
worked for thirty five years in areas of high energy
physics using computational techniques. He's the president of the Applied
Precognition Project APP and also dedicated to education and development
(00:23):
of precog pros. We'll tell you about that. And these
are natural follow ups to Physics Intuition Applications, which he
founded back in nineteen ninety eight. Marty, Welcome back to
the program. How are you. I'm doing great, Thank you,
How are you doing great? Thanks for joining us. You
know yesterday we were using clips of you and our
Beyond Belief television shows. People love you. Oh wow, that's terrific.
(00:48):
Thank you. How did you get started in this? How
did you go from your background in physics to getting
involved in I'm not going to call it the supernatural,
but it's different. That's right, because most of what's called supernatural,
I believe is actually natural but unusual. I got involved
in this because of my work high energy physics included
(01:14):
simulating nuclear weapons way back when in the late nineteen
sixties and seventies, and so I had security clearances and
I was actually doing some work with the Defense Intelligence
Agency and I came across this report in the I
(01:35):
TRIPLEE Journal which talked about this strange thing and they
had named it remote viewing. They couldn't use psychic phenomenon.
And I went to the DA and they said, God,
you guys really need to know about this. Later I
found out they were funding it, but I didn't know
that at the time. They sent me out to Stafford
Research Institute and I actually met how Putoff and Russ
(01:58):
tar As you know, who were running program at SRI.
They showed me around and I got to meet them,
and of course I was so impressed with their work
that I stayed involved thereafter, you know, the interest level
and following the literature and that sort of thing. Have
(02:20):
you come up with your own thoughts on why remote
viewing works and how it works? Um? Yes, And I'm
really glad you asked that, because there's a model I've
been working on for a very long time, going way
way back when I was working with Skip Atwater, who
(02:44):
you know, was ahead of the Army remote viewing unit
at Fort Meade. But then he went to the to
work with the Monroe Institute, and he did work at
the Monroe Institute and through various webinars there. Each time
(03:06):
I went there, I developed this model further, and it
basically comes from the fact that consciousness itself is fundamental.
Give me a few moments here, let me try to
explain it. Put sure absolutely remote viewing very directly around
for two hours marter. You got all the time you need, hope,
(03:28):
and you obviously feel free to jump in and ask
questions if I'm not being as clear as I can.
But the leaders of quantum mechanics themselves came to the
conclusion that consciousness is fundamental because the strange world of
quantum mechanics forced them to do that, because of what
(03:51):
is called the measurement problem. It is if when you
get down to these very very small particles or even
photons light and you start looking at that, you find
that it doesn't really have a reality in the physical
world until it's measured prior to that, it is a
(04:14):
probability field basically, and what Schrodinger said, you know, the
Schrodinger equation is a fundamental equation. Quantum mechanics. Consciousness cannot
be accounted for in physical terms. For consciousness is absolutely fundamental.
It cannot be accounted for in terms of anything else.
(04:38):
And Max Plank and it's worth reading these quotes because
you have to realize these guys were struggling with this
issue of what is this consciousness all about? Didn't they Well,
they came up with great equations, but they really well, Okay,
here's Planks quote. I regard consciousness is fundamental. I regard
(05:02):
matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness.
Now that idea goes way back, and my being a physicist,
it's almost like I had no choice to put it
in the form of a model. And that's what I
(05:25):
kind of want to tell you about now, because it
explains not only remote viewing, in my opinion, explains virtually
all PSI phenomenon, including of course telepathy and really all
the other PSI phenomenon. A lot of people, Marty, doctors
and scientists, always assumed that you needed the physical brain
(05:50):
to do any of this, and I'm convinced sounds like
you're convinced that it's outside of the brain that makes
this work. That's absolute right. The source is this I
call it just to give you the idea, and I've
named it the universe of collective consciousness. The US I
(06:15):
call mine the wireless inert of the universe, okay, and
Ingo Swan called it the matrix, you know. And there
are traditions that call the energy that comes from and
I'll talk about that in a minute. G I mean,
it isn't like this is a new idea, but in
(06:36):
the context that I'd like to think about it and
where it connects up with remote viewing and other psiphenomenon,
it's really good to think of it as the universe
of collective consciousness. So what is this most fundamental thing
it contains? And the only way I can use words
to explain it is everything consciousness touches. So your conscious
(07:02):
mind is aware of the room you're in now, okay,
And we tend to think of that as being in
the physical world, and it is, but you're here and
now conscious moment is your experience. Your experience is consciousness,
and that goes down in the universe of collective consciousness. Well,
(07:26):
any idea that anybody any conscious experience, idea that anybody
in the universe has ever had is in this universe
of collective consciousness, and this includes past, present, and future.
Knowing precognition forced me to struggle with these ideas, but
(07:49):
it's absolutely clear that this universal collectives consciousness includes everything, past, present,
and future, that any sentient at, any sent in being
or others as mentioned in a moment, like rocks, whatever
their experience in what we look at as a physical world,
(08:12):
is down in this universal collective consciousness. In fact, it
comes from there. Now, this universal collective consciousness is everything.
It has no boundary because imagine if Nora, you came
up with this great idea for another eye, something that
(08:33):
oh no, this ought to be outside whether as soon
as that idea crossed your head it had to go
into this universal collective consciousness. So the UCC has no boundary.
It's a lot like the physical world, frankly, no boundary,
no walls, nothing ending it. Now, what does this mean
(08:55):
in my mind? And I think you know you and
your list listeners can kind of get that in a way,
this is the ultimate meaning of oneness. I mean, it's
totally everything is down there. There are no separations, no boundaries.
I think in fact, it's probably pure spirituality. When we
(09:18):
talk about getting in touch with pure spirituality, pure harmony,
this universal collective consciousness, which is not yet in the
physical world, is that it's ultimate oneness, ultimate spirituality. But
now let's go one step further. What do we do
(09:38):
in our day to day physical lives. We have this
idea of things being separate. We bring out a computer monitor,
we bring out ourselves as a separate being. But in
fact we have these fuzzy boundaries. We can't be perfectly
(09:58):
well the mind. And there's this concept from the UCC
bringing out something which we believe is separate. This introduces
what I want to call entanglement energy. You are still
(10:20):
you can't disconnect from the universe of collective consciousness. There
needs to be some energy to maintain this illusion of separateness.
Lots of other people have used that word before, but
now it comes directly out of this model. You try
(10:40):
to bring out something and make it separate, and you
try to keep it in the physical world. So you're
now bringing it out and it's in the physical world
as a separate thing. Well, that takes energy. If you
started out with the UCC, so that's entanglement energy. And
this entanglement energy does one other thing. It creates and
(11:06):
maintains a communication channel because you, your ideas, your conscious
moments are still in the UCC, they're coming out and
this so you're always in communication with the UCC. Would
(11:26):
you say that the collective consciousness allows us to communicate,
let's say, telepathically, because it's we're all hooked in. Well, see,
that's exactly right, since since this oneness of the UCC,
it's got no boundaries, you know, it's I sometimes call
it a circle without a boundary. And my graphics which
(11:49):
says we're all connected all the time. The issue is
how entangled are we. We're entangled with every thing, past, present,
and future to a certain extent. But guess what, we
are clearly entangled to some things more than another. And
(12:11):
so it's this examination of the entanglement energy that becomes
absolutely clear and that's important. Let me connect this with
remote viewing. But there's so much more depth to this,
but maybe it'll become clearer with remote viewing and associative
remote viewing. But and what okay, yeah, I'm sure your
(12:35):
visitors know about remote viewing. Associative remote viewing is using
remote viewing to be associated with the outcome of say
a sporting event or a financial event. Let's talk sporting event. Okay,
(12:56):
all right. Basically, to make a prediction about a boarding
event exactly. And let's say the two teams team A
and Team B. If I, as a tasker, were to
associate Team A winning with one picture, say the Eiffel Tower,
and Team B winning with a whale underwater, a great
(13:25):
picture of an underwater whale or something interesting. Analogy huh, okay,
two teams, two pictures. Well, associative remote viewing. Ask the
remote viewers to describe and sketch the picture they're going
to see in the future after the game is over. Okay, Okay,
(13:45):
Team AIR wins, they'll see the Eiffel Tower. If Team
B wins, they'll see the whale under the way. They
already know though, that Team A is the Eiffel Tower, right,
and Team B is the whale. Oh no, no, oh
they don't. That's the whole point. Okay, I get it.
The only way they can get a good description is
to use their precognitive remote viewing capabilities of moving into
(14:10):
the future and seeing what it's called the feedback target. Now,
what are the odds of any of them? Let's say
you had ten remote viewers in a room and you said,
do you give me the outcome of this game, what
are the odds of any of them sketching the Eiffel Tower. Well, again,
not exactly. They'll typically say things like metal ooh, maybe
(14:34):
triangular shape. They might even say turisty open, and then
they will probably draw just because that's so iconical. I said,
a triangle or something like that. You know, at all
narrow sketch do they do? They even know that they're
looking at a sports storm or anything. They don't need
(14:55):
to know that, but yeah, generally we let them know that,
but no more and then get this. We get their transcript.
We can judge it, they can judge it. But the
key is they don't get the feedback until lafter the event.
And that's the association. It's associated with what actually happens.
The picture is and typically the best viewers right now
(15:20):
are leveling off, it seems, and we think we can
do better, We think we can get up, and we're
working to get up to seventy five eight percent over
the longest term. But right now they're like sixty sixty
five percent. That's still pretty good. Now, who knows at
the outset about the Eiffel Tower and the and the whale.
(15:40):
Who knows that the person in charge of the remote
viewing program actually the way it's done in our system
on you know, the applied Precognition project is with the computer.
It's all done randomly. We have really that's interesting. Yeah,
we have eight hundred pre chosen photo graphs. Okay, we
(16:01):
call the photocytes because these guys can pick up sounds
and taste and everything the remote viewers do. But the
computer will actually randomly choose a pre chosen pair okay,
as the possibilities, and then only one of them will
turn out to be the actual target. Let's talk about
(16:25):
precognition for a moment, Marty, in terms of what you
think it might be, the ability to see things in
the future. How many people see these things and don't
react to it until after the fact, and then they go,
oh my gosh, I knew this would happen, right, And
that happens a lot. And that's why you don't even
(16:48):
have to do all the research. And it's been an
enormous round of research now done by scientists validating that
precognition occurs even though we don't have a model and
that's what upsets so many other scientists. But the reality
of it comes, I believe from this UCC because the
(17:10):
outcome is down there already and what we do and
what all remote viewers do, even that just remote viewing
a place where there's a missing person to get about
the sociate of remote viewing. What they're doing is getting
in touch with very strong intention and expectation and attention
(17:35):
to their task. And so somehow, and I mean this
is one of the biggest mysteries I would say in
the universe. Somehow consciousness can connect up with what's intended
to be found. Now, when there's feedback, you can see
(17:55):
how that would help because during the feedback session you
add this entanglement energy, okay, and it's through you. You know,
your DNA is vibrating all the time. And guess what
your DNA was vibrating with other unique things to you
(18:18):
during the remote viewing session, and now it's vibrating during
the feedback session after you know the truth and the
entanglement between those two is what makes precognition possible. Listen
to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one
am Eastern and go to Coast to coast am dot
(18:39):
com for more
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