Arnie Spanier and Aaron Torres the Miami Heat’s Game 2 win and more!

Arnie Spanier and Aaron Torres react to the Miami Heat’s Game 2 win on the road against the Denver Nuggets, Ja Morant’s looming suspension, how the Pac-12 could shape out in the future, plus, the guys make their picks for the remainder of the NBA Finals and the Stanley Cup Finals!

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you doing tonight, Torres, I'm doing well. First of all,
is it weird? I mean, I don't think plank lets
you drive very much anymore at your Advanced Age show?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Is it weird being behind the wheel? I mean, what
is it like for you?

Speaker 4 (00:36):
What is it like once we knew that?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
First of all, congratulations for getting promoted to the fill
in Sunday Night, which is the highly coveted Sunday night
late night shift.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Everybody pretty much wants this.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
When I was in college, I literally they were like,
well it was really middle school more than college, Like,
what do you want to be when you grow up?
I'm like, if I can be a Sunday night radio
fill in? Yes with Arnie Spaniard, the stinking genius. You
already well decades into your illustrious career. By then, you
did have hair At that point, I think a ponytail.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Ponytail and a mustache.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yes, but I was still in middle school and I said,
you know, when I grow up, don't give me Monday
through Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Don't give me drive time.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Don't know me this, I want Sunday Nights with Spaniard,
reacting to Game two of the NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
That was my exact request. How weird is it that
it came true?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Don't forget the Sega along withoutow.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, you're more so ping on de Seger's career for
crying out loud.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
You know, Disager and I were talking about you a
little bit last night.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Sure you are bad things too.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, first of all, Arizona got eliminated from baseball. The
surprising doesn't hurt me, by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
That did crush me, by the way. I want you
to know that.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
And then Chris Planks Oklahoma Sooner softball team is just
breaking every record that Arizona ever had in that sport.
So you did come up in conversation yesterday, but uh.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, sports just kind of bothered me. Well, you know what,
we'll get a lot into it. A special things going
out here and Vermonal tell you a little bit later on,
hopefully we'll get a hold of Todd Furman, we'll talk
to him, we'll get our pigs in lots going on
on this show. So if you want to get in
real simple, Aaron underscore Torres, I'm in stinking genius one
and we'll do it a couple of shows. We'll do

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today and tomorrow, and then I think I'm gonna make
the saga work on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I haven't quite decided yet, so well have waiting say.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Okay, well that that you got to take that up
between you and the saga. I will be here tomorrow
and I am happy to be here tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
And you know what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna give
you Tuesday off and I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna
make the saga work, make him do the updates and
the show, because I think he hasn't been working hard enough,
so I'm gonna make him do both.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
And now for the actual truth, Aaron Taurres, Okay, what
you're not working Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Now?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
All of a sudden it can't work.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
How it happened is they called me originally, and this
is at least a week ago, I think, and they
said Mike Harmon's out do you want to co host
with Jason on that Tuesday? And I said okay, great,
And then just in recent days they said, uh.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Great news, we got great news.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
The words great news. We're not mentioned to talk about that.
He's talking similar to me. I got a text late
Friday it was like, you know, phone rings. I'm like,
what could be going on? They're like, we got bad news, bad.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
News, Spaniard, we got Uh can you can you help
carry that show? To say, I think we could do
has things under control for Tuesday, but it's actually we
need both of you on Monday because Monday Arnie might
be actually well rested. We're gonna need both of you
to wrangle him in Tuesday to saga can handle it solo.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
So I feel like I went to the used car
lot and I got the old switcher.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Rood said it was only ten thousand miles.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
It was really yes, your pleasure. I know, not the
Sega for sure, but uh.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, we're all do to be here Tuesday. Yes, a level.
We got a lot to get to.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
It is a busy show on So, like I said,
if you want to get an Errand on the score tours,
I'm instincing genius one. Obviously, we get right to the game.
Miami wins at one eleven, one oh eight. Where do
we start on this one? First thing I started was
Shaman Denver for letting this game slip away. I don't
know if it's really Denver letting it slip away or
congratulates to Miami for every one of the best fourth

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quarters I've ever seen in my entire life. I was
looking on Twitter, Aaron, and they said it was one
of the most efficient fourth quarters in playoff history, and
like in the top ten in just like the history
of basketball. They were just phenomenal. Either way they did it,
they get to win, and I feel like I should
be excited about it because I'm usually for the underdog.

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I don't find myself rooting for Miami at all. And
like I said, Shaman Denver, fifteen point first half lead,
all right, forget about that. You still have what a
seven or eight point lead in the fourth quarter, and
you just let Miami do what they did. You let
him wide open three point shots. Denver has nobody to
blame but themselves. If Yo kich is gonna cry one

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more time, I'm gonna buy stocking Kleenex. It's ridiculous, But really,
I think it's more shame on Denver foroting and slip away.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well, and you know who agrees with you is Mike Malone.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
And I know Pat in the back is working hard
to get all this sound, but I'm seeing a clip
come across social media where he says, let's talk about effort.
I mean, this is the NBA Finals and we're talking
about effort. That's a huge concern of mine, and that
to me is really really perplexing and disappointing. Now, some
might say, hey, you're the coach. You know you have

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to fall on the sword. If guys aren't prepared, aren't
ready to go, that's on you. But it did feel like,
you know, it just felt like Miami comes out hot. Okay,
that's expected for a game too, must sort of must win.
Then Denver makes their run and you say, okay, here
comes Denver. They never lose at home, this game's over.
And then it just felt like they kind of got
on cruise control going into halftime. And you look at

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the final results. I mean, listen, we know Jokich on
most nights is going to be phenomenal. We know Jamal
Murray is going to be phenomenal five points for Michael
Porter Junior, six points for Kentavious call Well Pulp, twelve
points for Aaron Gordon. That's obviously a decent showing. But
when you get what is that? That's what is that?
That's eleven and twelve is twenty three points total from

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your starters that aren't Nicola jokicch and Jamal Murray. That's
a bad sign. It speaks, aren't you, to what you
said of them not being ready. And again it seems
like Mike maloneagrees with you.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
When Denver went.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
On the run in the second quarter, that was without
Jokic in the on the court. They were five or
five before they missed the first shot. When I don't
understand how Joe Kinch could have forty one points and
minus eleven in the plus minus.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I don't even know what.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
How is that possible that he could play a game
where he's shooting not efficient, and yet he's a minus
eleven with forty one points there, And I don't know
how that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know, well, I mean it speaks to the fact
that you know they were in that brief moment in
the start of the second quarter, they were better I
don't think it's an exaggeration. Sometimes you come on and
say crazy stuff, but I don't think it's an exaggeration
to say the best that they played was early in
the second quarter when he happened to be off the court.
Jamal Murray was playing well. Christian Brown, the rookie, was

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playing well. But I'm not here to say like he's
to blame or anything like that, but it is kind
of an interesting thing that they probably played their best
today when he wasn't on the court.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Now, everybody says, this is absolutely remarkable. Miami a number
eight seed. They were three minutes away from getting eliminated
from the playoffs altogether after losing the first game and
you know, almost losing that second game and being eliminated
all together.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Out there, Why does this not feel remarkable?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Why does this not feel like a sixteen seed beating
one seed or some underdog making it to the final
four or something. I don't know, I'm not feeling it
with Miami, like, oh.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
My god, this is the most remarkable rooting for them,
which I find interesting. You know, I'm not overlooked guys.
Bunch of undrafted guys. Chinny Butler third fourth Team Spoe.
You know, Lebron trying to get him fired a million
years ago. Why are you not rooting for Miami. I'm
not being sarcastic. I'm actually genuinely curious, you know what again?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
First of all, because a I don't think they're the
best team in the NBA, but that shouldn't stop you
for rooting him, because I usually do like the underdogs.
I felt like they've had a perfect storm. Yannis gets
hurt in the first round, they get by Milwaukee, they
get by the Knicks out there, so you know, they
were a better team than the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Anyway, I'll go and give them that.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I just feel a perfect storm in which Giannis missed
two games. I think he was back for the final
two games that they won and eliminated Milwaukee, beat a
fully healthy New York Knicks, who I believe were the
higher seat.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
They were the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
The Knicks only had thirty was supposed to only have
thirty eight wins that year. So we're going anyway, Well,
so you so you so what was the term you used?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
They got the luck of the draw or something like that,
because because Giannis missed two games, I mean they they
beat Boston, far and square. It's not like Boston. There
was some flukes, some lucky, some injury from this, some that.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I thought Tatum twisted his z Anko at the beginning of
the game in Game seven.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
And if they weren't down three to zero, it whanted't
have mattered well and they still got blown out by
the way. Well, I mean, is he not allowed to?
I mean, Jimmy Butler didn't play great in many games
and they they found a way to win. I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I don't I don't feel like this is like a
underdog story. I don't feel like everybody else is out
there when you're reading on Twitter like this is remarkable
and we're watching one of the best, you know, runs
in sports history.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Should I feel that way? Are we? Is that what's
going on here? And I'm just not being caught up
in it?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Or what?

Speaker 4 (09:31):
See that?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I do agree with you on And the reason I
don't think it feels like shocking, I mean, the reason
it doesn't feel shocking, it's pretty simple. Eric Spoltster has
been here before, Jimmy Butler's been here before. Bam Maddabout
like literally have been here before. They've been to the finals. Now,
it was in the bubble, but they went to the
finals two years ago.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
If last year rated to the finals, we'd be saying, wow,
look it is this crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Last year a shot away from going to the finals.
So they're literally a shot away from being in their
third straight NBA Finals. So if that's your argument for
for not feeling like like like, I think the Heat
are a worthy Eastern Conference champion and a worthy adversary.
I still think Denver is gonna win the series. I'll
say this ardy, though, and this is something Jason Martin
and I talked about last night, and I'm curious for
your take. Is it felt like after game one, it

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felt like everybody was ready.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
To say Denver and four or Denver and five.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Game match I was pretty much speaking of which I
guess you told Jason Martin on when you filled in
for me that, uh, if Miami even won a game
against either Philly or Boston, that you would quit the shower.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
No, you can't prove that. You can't prove it.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Put Uh, the guys are.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Lazy producers of five years. They don't have anything.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Forget cutting up game Game two NBA Final sound Instead,
we're gonna we're gonna have that.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
But no, so I so I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I don't think this is some incredible underdog feel good story,
but a.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Lot of people are saying that it is.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, it is an eight seed, it is, you know,
we obviously you don't see a run like this in
the NFL playoffs. You know, when you have the low
seed making a run like this.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
The teams that are wildcard teams make the Super Bowl
win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Now, I think you've seen it once or twice.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Weren't your New York Football Giants a wildcard?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
The Raiders were one, weren't they? But that was a
long time ago. Geez, where's Hartman when you need them?
Off the top of your head? But I think it
happened twice.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I have the Sega looked at it.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Football Giants were a wildcard at least one time that
they won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
But that doesn't happen often.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Philadelphia Phillies where a wildcard made the World Series last year,
So it happens all the time. I'm with you, is
I don't think this is some like remarkable feel good story.
I will say, though, I do feel fundamentally different about
these playoffs. I mean, Denver hadn't lost a game at
home in these playoffs before tonight. Losing this game makes
me feel like this is it least gonna be a

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competitive series. I'm not saying that, uh, you know, Miami
and five, Miami and six, it's a you know, I
I've completely changed my opinion, but I do think that
win kind of helps me feel good that we're at
least going to get a competitive, fun series for hopefully
five or six games.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Are you pulling for Denver the rest of the way?
Are you just saying let's see you win. Are you
going for the uh, the other dog and pulling.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
With Miami the rest of the way.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh, I'm gonna do the the least hot takey thing
ever and say I'm kind of room for both, Like like,
here's I'm not happy.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I want to be upset like Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
To me, epitomizes everything that Like, I think Jokic and
Butler are two such easily likable superstars that I will
be happy for either one.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
And I do think, yeah, you must for Jimmy. You
must have made a mistake. I'm sorry you. I thought
you said that. Jimmy Butler was a superstar. Oh boy,
we're gonna start this com He is a superstar.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I mean with a thirteen points you better believe it. Yeah,
he had nineteen tonight. That's oh well, you got me
on that one. And I mean they won, didn't they.
Well that's not the point.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
It's not only because of him, it's far it's it's
one that they won in spite of him, because of
his bad shooting. Earon, you know, I love the pet
I'm sorry to interrupt. You go, I'll get to that
next segment. Okay with Butler, It's okay. You tell me
about all these great superstars.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Giannis, who like Arnie, is sitting there with potato chips
on his stomach watching this game. Jason Satum, that superstar
who like Arnie, has a mustard staying on his T
shirt watching this game.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Jimmy Butler's the one playing. Jimmy Butler beat both of them.
Jimmy Butler's a super stars, make no mistake about it.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Look, first of all, yes, Jimmy Butler has been good,
but for about four or five game stretch, he's not
been all that great. He didn't even have a great
game today with twenty one the reason they're winning. And
like I said, the culture, baby, that's why, go ahead
say it. Well, no, it's because the guys that you know,
they you hear it all the time, the undrafted guys
and the people like Vincent and and and just all.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
The Martin and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Though Martin did have a very good game at all today,
they're just getting a lot off the bench, a lot
of the off these role guys.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
This is why you should like the Miami Heat. People
that were perceived is not very talented overcoming the odds
much like you, Arnie. You know you're kind of the
gay Vincent. You're kind of the gay Vincent of Fox
Sports Radio. You know me, I'm I'm a Bam Adam.
I'm more Tyler hero. You know I was well perceived.
Everybody liked me coming up. Uh you know, I I've

(14:23):
met expectations early on in my career. You're more like
uh gave Vincent. Nobody really knows how you're here. Yet
you show up every week and sometimes you perform and
sometimes you don't. We're kind of blown away, to be honest.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
So yes, sometimes I'll miss ted in a row, but
I'll keep throwing the Yeah. Max J and game.

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All right, Torres, a couple of things I wanted to
get to check out these stats. Jokic had four assists tonight.
It is the third time he has had four assists
in the regular Well, he's had four assists three times
in the regular season.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
They lost all those games.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It is the fourth time he's had forty or more
points in the playoffs. The Nuggets are zero and four
in those four games. So if they found the recipe
to beating the Nuggets, just let Yokin score forty plus
points and don't let anybody else get their points.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Is it that simple.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I don't think it's as simple as let him score
and nobody else scored. Because listen, I think that you
know some of those guys, and we talked about in
the first segment, Michael Porter Junior KCP, they missed open shots.
I think there's something too, and this sounds weird, but
let him, let him get his buckets, but don't allow

(17:17):
him to be a playmaker, you know, Like it's almost
like the inverse of somebody like Chris Paul, right, Like
Chris Paul's best when he's setting other people up. I
don't know if Jokic is best when he's setting other
people up, but I think there might be something to that.
And so I don't know if anything was solved. I
don't know if anything was figured out. I mean, keep
in mind, the Suns took a few games off the

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Nuggets earlier in the playoffs, all that good stuff. So
I don't know if anything was solved, but I do
think there's there might be something to Jokic the score
is less dangerous to you than Jokic the playmaker.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
I'm wondering.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
And by the way, I want people to tell because
we're getting a lot of tweets.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
And mostly about how you did say on air that
if the if the Heat won a game against the Celtics,
you would quit that.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Those are a few of those, but just still can't prove it.
But I watch you to go ahead and tweet on it.
I'm curious, are you jumping to the Miami bandwagon now
and you feel like you're, you know, seeing a big
upset so you're jumping on or you're rooting for Denver
to go ahead and get their first championship. That's if
you're you know, you're not a Denver fan, You're not
a Miami fan.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
I'm just kind of curious if.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
You're even what are you watching? What do you I'm
rooted for Denver. I'm rooted for the Nuggets. I want
to see them win it. Miami's had their run. I
don't like the Miami fans. I don't like Miami period.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
I just you don't like Miami, like the city.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I'm not crazy about Miami, this city. I mean that's okay.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I'm said I don't like Miami period. What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I just I don't like the Miami fans. You know,
I give Spolster a lot of credit. But enough is
enough with all the wins he's had pat Riley, I mean, geez,
I mean enough winning with that guy too already. So
I just had enough of Miami.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
One of those people that hates people that have success. Okay,
that's good to know.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, who are you pulling for? Then you're just you
were like either way, I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I mean i'd be listen, I'd be happy. Jimmy Butler's
thirty three. He is a superstar. But I will also
acknowledge that this is probably his best last chance on
the flip side. Denver, I mean, Denver's never won it.
Come on, I can't not root for Denver. And I
like Jokic. I think he's about the right things. I
think there are other guys, Jamal Murray, you.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Know, even Michael Porter junior.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Michael Porter Junior was the number one high school player
in America and I know he struggled tonight. But the
fact that he's willing to be a role player and
be a third or fourth guy on this team, like
just a lot of guys that have bought in, that
have bought into a role I respect them. I wouldn't
be upset with either one if if you really insisted, Arnie,
I would actually I think I would take Denver for

(19:47):
the reason they've never won a championship.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Right now, Look, I know this isn't the Lakers in
this Celtics. You know, I know you don't have you know,
one of those historic teams in there that everybody would
be talking about we'd be going crazy over. But at
least are you enjoying this series? Does it still have
the same buzz to you? Or it doesn't because the
names across the front of the jersey are not.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
The big names out there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I Actually, to be honest, I found of all the
teams that were in the final four, I found the
Celtics to be the most boring.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
To be honest.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
It's the same team really as previous years, don't really
step up in the big moments whatever. So I was
more excited about a Denver Denver Miami series than I
would have been Denver Boston. And then listen, I will say,
you know, Arnie, you and I were on air the
night of the play in game when the Lakers barely

(20:37):
survived Minnesota, and I was adamant that I didn't think
they were gonna even survive Memphis in round one. So
I will say the Lakers grew on me, and you know,
I think it's something maybe if we have time, either
tonight certainly or tomorrow, like what the Lakers future is,
because I don't think you should blow it up. I
think that they actually, you know, all things consider, we're
pretty good. But I'm bringing it up to say I'm

(20:59):
not upset that the Lakers aren't in it. I thought
they deserve to be in the Western Conference Finals, but
obviously Denver proved that they were the better team there.
So to answer your question, I don't know how you feel,
but I don't feel like I'm enjoying these finals any
less without the Lakers, Celtics, seventy six ers, whatever people
consider to be the big branch. I guess the Warriors
would be in that mix too, right.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, yeah, of course you want to see a big
name like that. You know what also is bothered me
about this series, and I'm getting fed up with this
is the flopping, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Well, it's not so much the flopping. What do you
call it? When you know somebody reaches in and the.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Guy's jerking his head back like, oh, you just hit
me with a Dubai four or something like that.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Torres, It's bad acting like you did in that movie though,
way yes, thank you, Art.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
It's like the slightest touch, Oh, I'm gonna you killed me.
I'm dead. I'm dead.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
The slightest touch, and you're jerking your body around and
your head back, and the the flopping and the sticking
out the legs on the on the three pointers. It's
getting to and Jokic, he's gotta stop crying. I are
the officials that bad? What's going on out there?

Speaker 4 (22:08):
You know? Can I you know I'm gonna do the
Arnie Spaniard.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Let me ask you a question that I know it's
impossible to answer, right. How have we not figured out
a solution of flopping in college and professional basketball?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Are you talking about the head jerky or the full flop?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm talking about chopping, which I know it's not necessarily
what you're talking about. R. It's like, it's like, I
don't know, colleges struggle with this forever. The NBA playoffs
in some ways were marred by this because obviously Giannis
gets hurt when somebody's trying to take a charge. John
Moran got hurt early. When somebody's trying to take a charge.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
It just feels like there's got to be a better
way than just standing there.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's it's a weird thing, and it just feels like
there has to be a solution, and nobody has really.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Come up with a good one in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
What do you you wanted out of the game? Is
that what you're saying completely?

Speaker 4 (22:51):
I do want to. I want I want to any
charge calls.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I want when somebody is trying to make a play
at the back, like when somebody's trying to make a
play at the rim offensively. I want somebody to try
to make a play defensively, not stand there and hope
to get a charge call.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I don't know what the answer is though, not to
get it out.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know, people are like, well, that's crazy. You can't
change rules of the NFL. Change the rule all the
time to make it more, to make it more offensive
friendly as it not. We've done rules to protect the quarterback.
We've done rules so wide receivers you can't touch them
until you know, you know, after the five yards you
can't go ahead and put your hands on them, because
we want more scoring out there. Maybe this would help

(23:33):
the scoring if we took that, I know it would
help the scoring if you took that away, you know.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, And I'm with you from the perspective that the NFL,
I think has kind of set the tone where if
something's just not working, it just gets eliminated. And you know,
we've joked about even in like super Bowls where there's
like a big controversial talking point coming in. I remember
one year it was like, what is a catch? Nobody knows?
You know, does the ground cause for this? And it
was like and then there was like three or four

(23:58):
controversial plays in the Super Bowl and it was like
everyone was just called a catch. And it was clear
that Roger Goodell was just like, if it's even in debate,
just call it a catch. And so I'm just thinking
from the block charge perspective, I don't really know.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Uh, I don't even know what to say. By the way, h.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Kluke just tweeted and he brought up a really good point.
He said, wait, isn't stinking genius a Dolphins fan, bro?
You feel what about Miami? Because he said you hated
the city of Miami. Yet you're a Dolphins fan. I'm
very confused about that.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Mae. Yeah, you see that. That's I keep it real.
I know. Look, I'm I'm a fan of real. I
keep it real.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm a fan of the team, the Miami Dolphins. I'm
not a fan of the city, the city of Miami.
I'm not a fan of the Miami Heat. You have
just because I like the Dolphins. I don't have to
like the heat and all that body that comes with
the city. You understand that, right, I.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Don't understand it. It's why I asked. It makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
What I gotta like everybody, every sing like every I
gotta like every team in that single mister worldwide.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
You gotta like Eric Spolstra, you gotta like uh whoever's
playing for the Marlins these days. I don't think there anymore,
So all right, I still play for them, Gary Sheffield,
what's our rooting for a Sorry?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
You want to get it, Eric underscore Torres, I haven't stinking
genius one.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
We'll come back.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
I want to get into Jimmy Butler. I will also
want you to go ahead and tweet on in who
you're pulling for and what do you do with Tyler Herro.
Do you just come in when he's ready to put
him back in the lineup, or do you gotta slowly
work him in there because of all the other great
guys that were stepping in for him. You don't want
to ruin any continuity going on. So we'll get to
all that coming up next. First though, first check of

(25:40):
the night, I'm gonna make it more doubles shift on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
That's going on.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
By the way, you were a big Ronnie fan in theday,
I hear how did that stick?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
You know he did?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
That's when we should have known when when you turn
on Ronnie cyclely, that's what I should have known, Bake
Miami fan.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
By the way, you're saying with the flopping, you're saying
the five thousand dollars fine does not work.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
In a len't think salary is almost ten million, isn't it.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
And as far as a buzz, let's say for this series,
maybe they'll get some now because it's a game apiece
and we had a surprise tonight. A team that hadn't
lost at home in the postseason lost. In fact, a
team that literally hadn't lost in four weeks time lost tonight,
Denver was nine to zero at home in these playoffs.
Hadn't lost any game in.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
The thirtieth I fink, Oh no.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Not what was that the I mean overall they had
won seven straight games. It had been so spaced out
it was literally four Sundays ago was the last time
Denver lost a playoff game. So maybe we'll get some
attention now because last year it was Golden State Boston
in the final and Game one got eleven point four
million viewers. It was seven point six million viewers for

(26:52):
Game one in Denver, which is needless to say, not good.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Wow, I knew that was hatteneding g shocker. We'll get
to more. Those were the overnight numbers.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Will get more official stuff as the coming week goes
along everything, So it's not like, what is that what
you said? It's yeah, down from about eleven and a
half to seven and a half, so that's a large percentage.
Those are again overnight numbers. With the holiday this past week,
everything's backed up a few days. But Jamal Murray missed
the last shot and Denver lost by three at home
tonight to the eight seed from the East Miami one.

(27:24):
Eleven one eight the final. You mentioned only four assists
for Nikola jokicch he had five turnovers as well, And
the fact is he had only those three times regular
season with four assists or less, and those were all
blowout games. He didn't have the minutes in those games,
so this was clearly his worst assist effort of the
entire long season. And yes, it's true every forty point

(27:48):
playoff game he's ever had the Nuggets always lose, including
oh to three this postseason, which means conversely, when he
scores under forty, denvers thirteen and one. So stay tuned
in Miami for game number three. You mentioned Max Struce
OZH for ten shooting from the floor in the opener
that they lost on the road. He hit four three

(28:08):
pointers in the first quarter tonight. To do that in
the opening quarter of a finals game, it's a short
list guys like Klay Thompson, Steph Curry, Kobe Bryant add
Max Struce to of what went on tonight, And it
was a great quote you mentioned Aaron from the Denver
coach himself, Michael Malone after the loss tonight that we're

(28:28):
talking about effort. It's the NBA Finals. This is a
huge concern of mine.

Speaker 8 (28:33):
Whether feeling sorry for themselves and not making shots, or
thinking they can just turn it on or off. This
is not the preseason, it's not the regular season, it's
not round. This is the NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Enough said.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
As for the Miami Heat, they beat a Denver team
that had been undefeated this postseason in any game where
they had a double digit lead, and they led by
fifteen in the second quarter. Tonight lost by three at home.
Sam Cassell has agreed to join the Boston Celtics coaching staff.
According to The Athletic, I thought it was gonna play,
aren't you.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere, but he
was on Doc Rivers staff in Philadelphia. Stanley Cup Final
Game two is Monday night. Vegas won last night's opener
five to two over Florida. Kyle Busch, the NASCAR winner.
Rojjiang from Stanford won the LPGA event in her pro debut.
Victor Hovlin took the Memorial in a playoff at the
French Open. Number one Carlos Alcarez advance to the quarterfinals.

(29:32):
Yankees beat the Dodgers for to one. Texas won again
twelve three over Seattle and Norma Hunt has passed away,
matriarch of the Kansas City Chiefs, died at the age
of eighty five, as the wife of the late Chiefs
founder Lamar Hunt. She had also attended every Super Bowl game.
Although I noticed, Arnie that you like me this weekend
read a different Kansas City chief story that they're super

(29:54):
fan who winds up traveling to out of state games
and wearing the wolf outfit in the stands. Yes, he's
actually been added to the Greater Case Crime Stoppers Most
Wanted List.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Seriously, I know.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
This is not the mascot, not that wolf on the field,
a guy that just dresses up in the stands. A
couple days before a road game in Texas, he got
arrested in Oklahoma wanted for robbing a bank, and then
in March was charged with removing an ankle monitor and
failed to appear as scheduled court appearance, So he gets
added to the list. A rest warrant was issued. The

(30:28):
last add to this is remember last month when the
schedule release came out and the Chargers come out with
the anime animation for every matchup, and they had this
great schedule release video. Well, when they came to this
is our mid season game against Kansas City. The cartoon
depiction was of the wolf fan the Chiefs cutting off

(30:50):
the ankle monitor as this the Week eighteen matchup with
the Chiefs. It was this fan driving of you call
Chase by helicopters, God pure humor back to you that.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
That'd be crazy if he was at the game. He
just we didn't catch it. It's like the good old days.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I remember when, like, I know, I know you could
fan bases could take it too far. But it's like,
you know, like the Duke Blue Devils fans like they
used to be much more like they'd really try to
get under.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Your skin, right on top of the opponent.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah, now everything's so political. I don't want to go
down that road. But everything's so politically correct. You can't
say this, you can't say that. Apparently the Los Angeles
Chargers are bringing back political incorrectness. I had no idea
about that. That's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Schedule release video two years in a row now has
gotten rave reviews.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
That Titans was good too. Titans, Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
The man on the street question that was asking if
they knew the teams that were their opponents.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
That's great, all right to say, I appreciate that when
I love that.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
A couple of things.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I want to ask him first, what do they do
with Tyler Hero when he's ready to play? You just
throw him back out there? So taking minutes away from
some of the other guys that got you this far?
Or do you just say, hey, you know, maybe we
could use you five ten minutes a game and we'll
bring you along solely. I'd be kind of concerned. I
know he averages twenty a game, but I'm not so
sure I could just throw him in there for the
same amount of minutes, Aaron, I don't want to take

(32:13):
minutes away from some of the other guys.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Isn't it funny how one game can change everything. Like
after Game one it was like, well, I mean they're
a man short, I mean, what do you want they
don't have Tyler Hero? Like this is where it's finally
gonna catch up with him. And now tonight I agree
with you? Is you know, Gaye Vince, it's been pretty
good in these finals. I know Max Strus had a
really bad Game one, but he was phenomenal in Game two. Obviously,

(32:35):
Caleb Martin was excellent in the Eastern Conference Finals. These
are all guys whose roles have explain Robinson too.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I mean, Dan Robinson was great tonight.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I mean who which minutes do you want to
take away from? You know, when you're a shooter, you
want to be out there shooting the ball. You know
what your minutes taken away? You gotta get yourself in.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
A rhythm out there. It's a great point.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
I mean that, And that becomes the question is it's
not only do you throw off the rhythm of the
team and all that, but there are literally minutes that
you have to take away from somebody else.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
So maybe Kyle Lowry, but you know you've been okay,
you maybe take some minutes away from him. But I mean,
with his flopping, he's good for some points, no doubt
about that.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I'm looking right now. Thirty two minutes for gave Vincent,
twenty nine from Extruce tonight, obviously forty for Butler. You know,
I'll say this, Arnie, and you're gonna laugh, and you're
gonna make fun of me, and you're gonna do this.
I think maybe Jimmy Butler's the guy that you save
a few minutes on, you know, even if it's if
it's five to seven minutes a game, you know, if
Jimmy Butler's playing thirty four minutes instead of you know,

(33:36):
forty one forty two. Like, because this was a question
I had for Jason Martin last night, is like, you know,
Jimmy Butler, we can argue is he a superstars? He not, whatever,
But he is thirty three years old, and he has
logged a ton of minutes in these playoffs, and I
do wonder if everything's starting to catch up with him
in terms of the minutes played and all that. So

(33:57):
maybe that becomes your Jimmy Butler, Hey, instead of playing
forty two minutes tonight, you're gonna play thirty six. I
don't know, but it is an interesting conundrum because now
it's easy if it's O two, well you gotta plug
him back here.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I'm extra restough, I believe coming up now. I don't
think it's one day off, one day on.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
I think they don't play till Wednesday. Yes, right, so.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
They'll have a couple of days. I don't think will
be that much of a factor for Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Well no, but I'm just saying in general, is it
is interesting how the conversation feels a lot different with
the series tied one to one. They just became the
first team to win in Denver in these playoffs. Now,
all of a sudden, it feels like a luxury much
more than a necessity. If they fall down oh two tonight,
then it obviously goes without saying you probably have no choice,
obviously assuming that he's healthy, but you probably have no

(34:41):
choice but to bring him back.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
All right, we'll come back, we'll wrap up by game
number two, and we'll see who's got all the momentum
that's coming up next to erin Torres in for Chris Plank,
Camartney Spaniard right here at Fox Sports or Radio. All right,
could even think everybody eron Torre is in for Chris Plank,
Imartiy Spaniard right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
By the way, you want to welcome our newest affiliate.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
In Peoria, Illinois, Peeria Sports Radio one oh one point one.
They want to welcome them to the Fox Sports Radio family.
They're a Chicago White Sox radio network affiliate. I want
to thank their program director Scott Heckerthority dropped another network
and made.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
The flip over to Fox Sports. A big win for them.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Welcome to the Fox Sports Radio Family, Peoria Sports Radio
one oh one point one. I used to live in Northbrook, Illinois.
And by the way, if anybody ever says Illinois, I
just wanted to karate chop you to the throat.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
When you say that, you know that right, that's that's.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I didn't know you wanted to karate chop anyone to
the throat. But I Illinois.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Illinois, Illinois, Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Like noise, Like when Arnie's talking, it's a lot of nooy. Wow, wow,
you want to say it?

Speaker 4 (35:51):
No.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
So, by the way, when I used to work right
outside of Chicago and Northbrook live there too, and my producers,
I just hated them because they were local Chicago guys.
And every time we're on, they're watching the games, whether
the Cubs or the White Sox. I'm like, dude, it's

(36:14):
ten to nothing, the Cubs are losing in the eighth inning,
You're twenty three and a half games out of first enough,
turn the TV off. I can't can't have you watching you.
I'm doing the show all the time. I mean, I
just hated those guys. It was just horrible.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
They were really passionate about what they did. Yeah, I
can't see why you hate it. I will say Chicago
is really one of those great sports towns.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Like there's towns, there's.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Cities that like the locals get behind a team, you
know whatever. You could figure out which ones I'm talking about,
But Chicago, like literally, you go there on a night
where the Blackhawks are playing, you feel like it's the
biggest deal that's ever happened. The White size, the Cubs
obviously speak for themselves, the Bears speak for themselves. The Bulls,

(36:59):
I see, you've been up and down, but like that
is a sports town and so I would see those
without saying We're excited to have Peuria for.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Thanks to Peoria.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I know they're a little far from Chicago, but that's okay.
I want to welcome them aboard Peoria Sports Radio. What
a one point one by the way, coming up next hour,
what everybody's talking about and we have the inside scoop
about who is going to replace Shannon sharp uh and
work alongside Skip Bayliss.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
So did you hear the rumor or not? Torres, have
you heard of this one yet or not? I have
not heard any rumors.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Wow, So I'm gonna be scooping people.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
I guess huh.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I mean yeah, if you have a name, I don't
believe that it's a credible name, but it's okay.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
I would you just say you don't even know the
name yet? How would you know it's not credible, because
I know you're not credible. Wow? What a geez? What
a geez?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Gosh, my goodness. Well, well, i'll get down to you
next hour. We'll obviously talk more about in game two
today title one a piece.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Well, what's so funny?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Somebody dropped the name in my ear. I can't say
who the name is because I don't want to ruin
it in case it is the exact person. But somebody
just dropped the name in my ear.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So you want to tell me the name, I'll tell
you if it was the person I'm thinking about.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
No, we'll save it for hours.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Okay, Well we'll save it for next for next hour.
Do you feel now that it's one game a piece
that all of a sudden like Miami, Well, of course
they have a chance, because they're gonna be going home
one apiece. But do you feel like Denver should be
such an overwhelming favorite, like two and a half to one,
like they still.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Are right now, or what I was gonna say, do
you do?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Are they still an overwhelming favorite? I mean, you know, listen,
they're the number one seed, they have home court advantage.
But like the cliche is right, the one that we've
known throughout the test of time is that the series
doesn't start until the home team loses. Well, for the
first time in this postseason, the home team has in
fact lost, and so I don't know, it feels to
me like it's very much a series now, you know,

(38:59):
I worry about Miami, you know, the consistency obviously coming
off back to back seven game series, the totality of
games in minutes that those guys have played. But to
your point, Arnie Tyler, hero might be coming back so
they might get a depth piece. I don't know. I
think this is very much a series. If if Game
two had gone a lot like Game one did the
other night, I might have felt differently. But I think

(39:21):
this is very much a series going forward.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I think it's a series.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I just don't know how Miami has been able to
do it, especially with all the injuries that they've had.
Denver's the better team, but then again, Miami is was
not as good as Milwaukee, and they got by Milwaukee.
They were I don't think as good as the Knicks.
They got by the Knicks. They weren't as good as Boston,
and they got by Boston. And I'm still not feeling
that love that loves the story, that great love, feel

(39:46):
good story about how what a great run in this
Miami heat is?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (39:50):
The Tauras, I guess yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I don't I don't feel like one. I don't think that.
I definitely don't think they were a better team than
they or they were a worse team than the next.
I think they were better team.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Than the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
They did have a couple games against Milwaukee without Yiannis,
but they proved to be the better team in my opinion.
So we disagree fundamentally on how they got here. But
I think this is very much a series going forward.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
All right, Our one in the books will continue talking
about Game two. Todd Furman will hopefully stop on buy.
I want to get a little bit into some football stuff.
Always got to get some NFL football in on this June.
So all that's coming up next. Torres in for Chris
Plank I'm alreadie span your here on Fox.

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Speaker 2 (41:03):
You heard the man Aaron Torres in for Chris Plank,
who's doing softball tonight. They've got some blake games going
on with the College World Series and.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
There's there's games still going on in the College World
Series right now, Torres, there are.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I'm actually kind of mad. There's a bunch still going
on because of weather delays, but there's only one that's
actually on TV. It's like, you know, I'm not telling
another company how to run their business. What's the point
having thirty seven ESPN channels? If I can't get a
if there's live games on it, I can't watch them.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
You know, I thought the same. Damn figures.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
You're saying that I'm not kidding around, right, because there's
actually five games.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Is it five? I thought it was like three.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
The Stanford and Texas, A and M I think are
in the seventh Stanford's up Alabama and Boston College, Xavier, Oregon,
Oregon State, Sam Houston, Southern missing Penn. With the five
games I'm talking about, maybe something's gone final by that.
I don't know if I had an update, but those
games are still going on.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
So so you've you've scoured because I you know, I
haven't had a chance to really scour too hard. But
I'm you know, I'd love to get more than one
of these games on, but you know, it is what
it is.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
I guess you know.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
By the way, up here, a little bit away from
sports for a second, they're filming a movie up here.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
I was thinking about walking over.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
It's only like an hour from my house, so you're
gonna walk over, Well.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Drive on over and see if I can get apart.
They're gonna be here for a while.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
White Man Can't Jump No, It.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Was iconic movie and they're making a sequel to it.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Why Can't Jump? Beatlejuice too?

Speaker 9 (42:31):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Remember that one?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, Michael Keaton's in it and all that, and it's
like an hour from my house. I maybe I can
get a part doing that, right, They need balding, yeah, somewhat.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
You know, need extra creepy weird guys that are scared children. Sure, yeah,
you'd be a perfect fit.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
You know, is that movie good enough to have a
sequel to it?

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Especially twenty five years later, thirty years later? Like, was
anyone clamoring for it? Like, I mean, you know there's
some remakes that we're all clamoring or you know, like
full you know, the Full House remake, Like okay, I
could see that, Okay, whatever. I don't know that there's
like people in the streets, like marching on Hollywood Boulevard
demanding a Beetlejuice remake.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
But what do I know? Maybe maybe they are, who knows,
maybe there is, Maybe there is.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
By the way, if you want to send us a tweet,
real simple, Aaron on the score, Torris, I'm a steak
a genius one right off the bat from our new
affiliate out in Peoria, Illinois. Hey steak a genius. Many
broadcasters are either from Peoria or work there. Chick Hern,
Ralph Lawler Bob Star, Tom Kelly, Jack Brickhouse, Bill King,

(43:38):
Vince Lloyd, and Charlie Steiner.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Well that's quite the list there. That's Charlie Steiner. I
hear him on with the Dodgers all the time.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
When I was in La I ran into him at
the at the super Plantation.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
So basically, by the way, so you just insulted our
new affiliate by saying they cared too much about their
sports teams.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Is that what you are? No, I didn't say.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I said my producers cared too much about those sports themes.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
George Sands tweeted. And George, your one hundred percent right.
I respect and appreciate how much the people of Peoria
love love your local teams.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I don't know why this stinking genius is so upset all.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
By the way, you heard about Chadd and Sharp, Right,
he's gonna be leaving the show after the NBA Finals.
Who do you think is the front runner to go
ahead and replace Shadnon?

Speaker 4 (44:22):
What do you think? Well, I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
You said that you have the scoop, So I've actually
been waiting with baited breath for.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
You to tell me. Skip and Arnie.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Oh okay, I figured that was where you're going.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yet, Well, that doesn't have a good ring to skip
Been Arnie, Skip Been Arnie doesn't have a good ring
to it.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Doesn't have a good ring to it.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Also, you know, also what what?

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Why was I an older white guy?

Speaker 6 (44:48):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Is that a problem?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
There is?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Sort of what I That was part of what I
was thinking. Yes, it wouldn't be a very diverse show,
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
You know, I gotta tell you I would enjoy actually
not doing it full time, but just to do like
one or two shows until they found a permanent replacement.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
You know what I mean, Sure, you should do it.
I would. Well, they haven't asked me. That's the only problem.
I told you.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
The one show I really wanted to do that I
got it came down between me and somebody else for
filling for three days. And I wanted this so bad,
and it was filling in for Maury Povich.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
And you are not the father, you know what I mean.
You didn't really have a chance to do that, did you. Yes,
I'm being serious. Wow, when was that?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
This was a long time ago. Mary had an emergency.
I think there was a death in the family. To
be honest with you, and they started with five people.
I got a call from one of the producers and
then I got a call back that day say it
was between me and somebody else, and somebody else was
Maury's producer, and they let her do the three shows.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
So that was like the uh. That was like when
Alex Trebeka unfortunately passed away and the guy who was
like the producer or who was in charge of finding
the next toast named himself the host.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
That was kind of what you're talking about. Something like that, though, Yeah,
something like that.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I would have loved. Let me tell you something I
would have loved to have done that. I think I
would have been great. That would have been my calling.
You understand that, don't you. I think so, Oh, father,
you are not the father man she's been playing you. Oh,
I'm telling you I'd be I'd be great at that.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Anyways, really quick, what is your son up to? I
haven't I haven't worked with you enough to know. I mean,
last time I talked to you, he had stolen your
credit card and rented a yacht.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
In France or something Italy Italy it was it was Italy, Yes,
that's what he was. You know what, I'll do that
next hour. We're gonna we're gotta shay update next hour.
How about this hockey player at sports related. Yes, so
we'll give you that next hour because it's a story
I wanna, I want to make a fleet for. But
we got uh, you know, obviously we get game two.
Miami wins at what eleven went away? I had said earlier,

(46:54):
Shaman Denver, I'm fluding this getaway. Is it Shaman Denver
for letting get slip away? Or great for Miami for
fighting and coming back and winning the game. Why do
I say Denver let it slip away instead of congrats
to Miami for coming back.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
And winning this game? There Aaron, Well, we.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Talked about it in an hour one. Somebody who would
lean towards Denver giving it away was Mike Malone, who
had some, you know, very interesting comments about effort and whatever.
And I will say, you know, Jokicic goes for forty one.
But to your point, you know, the heat did a
kind of a good job to limit him as a playmaker.
But then you look at the rest of the box score,

(47:33):
and not not the rest of the box score, but
you watch the game and you look at some of
the other guys. Six points for Contavious Colwell Pope, five
for Michael Porter Junior. You know, Aaron Gordon's okay, but
beyond really jokicch into a smaller degree Jamal Murray who
only had eighteen. They really didn't get a ton from
pretty much anybody else only played eight players. So I

(47:56):
bring it up to say, listen, I think when you're
at home, when you have the lead at halftime, I
would lean more towards Denver giving it away. Now, Miami
played well, Miami deserved to win. So it's not to say, oh, like,
you know, they got lucky or anyw Well, they had
a phenomenal fourth quarter. Yes, and I'm not here to
say they got lucky, but I do think that it
was more of a giveaway than anything else. To your point,

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Miami outscored Denver by eleven in the fourth quarter to
hold on to win.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Now, I look, I know this has no concern for
us whatsoever, for anybody on this network or anything like that.
But as you heard the Seger say, last year's ratings
had over an eleven million people watching. It was down
the seven million in the overnight ratings in game number one.

(48:42):
Real simple why is Denver not a big enough town.
Miami certainly is a big enough town. Are they not
or are they just not passionate Miami fans? Do they
not appeal to a national audience that's.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
A big eight, that's like forty You know, I can understand.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Maybe a little bit of a drop, but that's a
big drop there, Torres.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
So I was actually gonna ask you, Yeah, like I
understand that. You know, there's a little bit of you know,
like I get that Michael Jordan, you know, was was
a once in a lifetime guy, all that stuff, right,
But it feels like in the last ten years, say
maybe the post Kobe era, it does feel like the

(49:26):
NBA has had trouble creating stars. Like it feels like
if Lebron's in, we're watching, If Steph's in, were watching,
and pretty much everybody else NB doesn't move the needle.
Jokic doesn't move the needle. Yannis doesn't move the needle.
Devin Booker doesn't move the needle. No, it's not to
say they're not talented players. They are, But I just
don't get it, and I don't know if there's an answer.

(49:47):
I just find it fascinating that we can't figure out
a way to create interest in a Jokic, a two
time MVP. By the way, in a Jannis in a
whomever arn't he see you?

Speaker 9 (49:58):
Now?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
You you wouldn't remember this, but were we used to
do the Saturday night show. I used to send this
all say this all the time. I go where the
future star is gonna be coming from?

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I remember talking about it all the time with you.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I go, there's there's gonna be a problem in the NBA. Now,
there are some great players. You're absolutely right, Jalen Brown, Tatum, Jannis.
There's some great players out there, probably gonna be Hall
of famers, but they don't move the needle. I have
no idea why you would think Tatum and Brown playing
for the Boston Celtics, an iconic team, would move the

(50:30):
needle a little bit. Where people are like, I love
those guys. I hate those guys. I you know, I
want to you know, I'm a Knicks fan, so I
want to hate them.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
They don't do anything.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
It's it's like Land, It's it's nothing there. I don't understand.
So maybe that's part of the reason why. But forty
percent tune out because what it's not Golden State. It's
not the Lakers. Why exactly forty percent tune on out?
They just have know, it's just whatsoever. Even Miami, that's

(51:00):
that's a big sports city, but that's a tough teddy.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Bar been there before too. And that's the thing, you
know we were joking about. Is Jimmy Butler a superstar?

Speaker 10 (51:06):
Is he not?

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Well?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
The one thing you can't deny it's not as though
Miami doesn't have brand recognition. I mean, this is a
team that what since twenty eleven has been to this
is what their sixth finals since twenty eleven, fourth Lebron
twenty twenty. Last year they were shot away from the
NBA finals. So I don't get it, you know, I
don't get it. And I understand that. You know, some
superstars are built more dynamic than others, and maybe Jokic

(51:29):
just isn't that guy. But again, Curry's like thirty four
years old, I think maybe thirty five. Lebron is thirty eight,
thirty nine, And so again, where are those under thirty
year old guys that move the needle because it just
doesn't feel like they're there or any I don't I
don't get is the NBA doing something wrong? Are they

(51:50):
not interesting? I don't know. Maybe the NBA is doing
something wrong. Maybe it's because nobody plays in the regular
season anymore.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
But it's just it's interesting to me that the NBA
literally hasn't been able to really create a star really outside.
I mean, I guess you would say, Steph, but is
it a two league guy? What Lebron and stuff?

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Pretty much? It's what it feels like, isn't it. Well,
I can't argue with you.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I mean, the only reason I would go to the
game is because I want to see my New York Knicks.
If I drive down to New York, which is like
five hours for me, it's because it's not because I
want to see you know, Jalen Brunson or anything like that,
or Randall. It's because I want to see.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
My team play.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Sure nobody could because if the Lakers came into town, yeah,
sure I want to see Lebron play. But I would
still want to go to the game because the Lakers
are coming to town, you know, New York and la
If Boston was coming to town, even if they didn't
have Tatum and Brown, I'd still want to go to
the game because I want to see my team win,
but I want to see him playing the Celtics, So

(52:51):
I still go for the front of the team, not
the front of the name on the front of the team,
not the back.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
You know, that's interesting. I feel like for most people
to the opposite. I mean, you look at honestly, I'm
not even trying to be a jerk, but like, your
New York Knicks are a huge brand, but really, up
until this year, there hasn't been a ton of reason
to want to watch them, right right, So I think
for more people it's you want to see the star players.
But here's my question. I mean, how many guys, how
many guys do like people buy tickets to see like

(53:21):
that would be an interesting thing. And I know every
person is different, and you know, this kid might like
this player the most, but I mean think about it, like,
are people like buying tickets to see Kawhi Leonard?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
To say, are you are you even buying Are you
even buying tickets to see Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 4 (53:37):
No, you're buying tickets to see the Kansas City Chiefs, Right. No,
I disagree with that. If they would still out, they
would sell it.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
No, matter who was the quarter If I was the quarterback,
well they would sell out.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
But they only play seventeen games, eight or nine road games.
I mean, but I would say, I think you could
get the tickets for a lot cheaper if it's Week
eighteen and you know Patrick Mahomes isn't playing as opposed
to a game where he is playing.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Right, But you're you're going for the team you you
know you're going if if they're trying to make the
playoffs and make a run in the play it makes
no difference if Mahomes is the quarterback or whoever.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
You're you're going for the name on the front. Actually,
how many people in the NFL are you really are
you really going to go see? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
You want to go see the Patriots because you hated
them winning all the time. Maybe you wanted to see
Tom Brady. But other than that, there's not too many
names like that.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
I guess, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I mean, I I think there are there are guys
that you would want to go see, but it doesn't
mean that you wantn't like go if they're not playing.
Like again, it's the NFL, there's only seven you know,
eight nine home games, road games, whatever. So if a
team is coming to your town, you're probably gonna go
see it. But I do think there's something different about
Mahomes coming in, Brady coming in, who's obviously no longer there.

(54:52):
Aaron Rodgers is a guy that you would probably want
to see.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
And there's nobody in baseball because if you're not paying
for Otani, Uh, show way Otani, then you're not paying
for anybody, right for the most part.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah, Aaron Judge, maybe that's really it. But Otani should
be the guy. You're right, And this has been one
of my things for years is how have how has
the NBA or Major League Baseball been so unsuccessful at
turning this guy into like a mussy superstar. The guy's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
The Angels don't win, though I guess they did. They
just don't win, that's the problem. How can they tell
me how they don't win though? That's that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
How many how many years did the Lakers missed the
playoffs when Lebron was there?

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Three out of five? So they missed the playoffs when
Kobe was there? Also?

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yep, exactly. People still showed up to see Kobe.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, that, well, what is it then? Is it more
stars back then? More Hall of Famers back then?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
So somebody put out a tweet that listed the starting
lineups for Detroit and the Lakers. They're ten Hall of Famers, seriously,
not nine ig ten Hall of Famers.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Now we're lining up to start that game. Crazy. I mean,
it's absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
You want to get in air and underscore Torres, I
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(56:19):
Covering up next, our buddy Todd Furman live from Las Vegas.
We'll get the latest odds and lines, how they're moving.
That's covering up next. Torres in for Plank. I'm Ernie Spanier.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
This is Fox Sports or Radio. All right, good evening, everybody.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
We're live at the tire rack dot Com studios. Aaron Torres,
Arnie Spaniard, Torres in for Chris Plank doing the softball
well the women's softball calling the play by play. Plank's
pretty good at calling the play by Playanottle if you
know that Torres.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
I know he covers like literally the greatest team in
the history of the sports, surpassing the Arizona Wildcats. By
the way, fun fact about that, breaking every word record
of the Arizona wildcast.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
That kind of bothered me.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I don't know if if I told you that that
was bothering, But I'll get to that late. I want
to get to our guest, Jordan's how. You can check
out his podcast to bet the Board podcast. You can
certainly check about our Vegas Insider. It's Todd Furman.

Speaker 10 (57:16):
How you doing, Todd, I'm good tonight, gentlemen, how you
boys holding up? And Aaron, my heartfelt apologies for you
having to deal with Arnie this fine Sunday.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Night, my friend.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
First of all, Todd, this is the first time I've
talked to you since you're married.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Man.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Congratulations, I hope everything went well this spring. I'm excited.
I'm more excited to talk to you than I am
to work with Arnie for the next hour and a half.
But congratulations, and I'm excited to talk to you man,
how you been.

Speaker 10 (57:39):
I'm good man, I thank you. I appreciate that. And
you know, the sports calendar that dictates all doesn't allow
a whole lot of opportunities to try and go after
actual personal pursuits, especially if you want to do an
outdoor wedding in the desert. So I think between my
lovely wife and I, we had about two weekends to
choose from, and thankfully we chose wise. He was only
about ninety five degrees outside really quick.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Arnie knows this story.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
But fun fact about you, boy, Torres got married on
July fifth, twenty nineteen. That means nothing to nobody except
for the fact that that was the night that Kawhi
Leonard re signed signed with the Clippers when Paul George
got traded to the Clippers. Nobody knew that Paul George
was available, nobody knew where Kawhi was signing. And there
are literally by the way, the thought process was, oh,

(58:21):
it's fourth of July weekend, nothing will happen. And there
are literally pictures of everybody at my wedding, including a
few people I'm sure you know Todd from from the
FS one days hovering around a phone trying to figure
things out, because everyone was like, wait a second, Kawhi's
going to the Clippers and Paul George is coming with them.
So it never ends to you.

Speaker 10 (58:40):
Little did you?

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Little did you know?

Speaker 10 (58:41):
Torres, your life was going in a positive trajectory and
everything else has been downhill for Kawhi Leonards's day.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
That was also Zion's summer league debut. Ironically, he left
with an injury and I don't think he's ever been
seen since.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Oh, sorry, too soon, No honeymoon, Todd, Todd need to
go on a honeymoon.

Speaker 10 (58:56):
You know already. You got to wait till the Stanley
Cup Finals over the FS and everything else. So we'll
take our vacation in early July when the sports world
basically slows down other than the Major League Baseball All
Star Break and making sure that I'm fully at the
speed before college football and the NFL ramp up in earnest.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I know we have to get the sports, but please
tell me you didn't make the biggest mistake that I
made when I got married and my wife goes, where
do you want to go in our honeymooner?

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Yah, you pick some plays. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
The biggest mistake in my life. She picked the Kidnadian rockies.
I'm like, after ten minutes, how much? Oh yeah, beautiful water?
Another drink of water?

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Wow? Another glacier? How about two weeks of that? Please?
After ten minutes, I.

Speaker 10 (59:39):
Was bored, Torres. This is how you know Arnie's wife
doesn't listen to the radio show because he'd be sleeping
on the couch. And he continued down this path with
this particular rant. But thankfully it's well past the witching
hour on the East Coast for him, so he knows
she's fast asleep, and he can sound like he gets
a whole lot of saying, can flex his muscles in
this particular discussion.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
I don't know she's out shoveling right now. He makes
her shovel. I think it's still snowing in Vermont.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
But all right, today the sports books, let's get to that,
because they must have gotten Clover today. The line went
from eight and a half to seven and a half
in money line, what was a plus two to sixty
up maybe even almost three to one, So they must
have gotten Clover tonight.

Speaker 10 (01:00:13):
Yeah, I mean, you know, look, Miami has been one
of those trendy public underdogs, and they got back in
Game one by recreational betters, and they came back to
the Miami Heat today. The only difference was it was
very difficult for books to actually find professionals that wanted
to lay the lumber all with the Nuggets. You mentioned
that money line price tag anywhere from plus two to
seventy thereabout, so a nice little payday if you had
the foresight to see the outright upset coming. But I mean,

(01:00:35):
this was a game that took on a very different tenor.
I mean, in the fourth quarter, Miami gets white hot,
it looked like Denver was going to have an opportunity
to pull away. And here we are now essentially at
best of seven becomes the best of five with Miami
holding home court, and we'll see how the Nuggets respond.
And when you look at the series price, it's actually
moved down to Denver right around a one to three favorite,
so a little bit lower than where it opened before

(01:00:56):
Game one, but still nowhere close to Arenie making a
case to plan in the perier down there in South Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Todd, you know, Arnie and I right before you came on,
we're talking about kind of the ratings and they're down,
And it's been a conversation the Nuggets. Do they move
the needle? Blah blah blah blah blah. From a betting perspective,
have you seen less volume or is it the same?
Do people just want a little action on the game?

Speaker 10 (01:01:16):
I mean out here, it's always going to be a
Lakers town first and foremost, so when you have some
of that star power, obviously, books would love the Lakers
to be involved in games at this magnitude. When you
get Denver and Miami. Sure, Denver, it's a fun story.
Jamal Murray and Nicola Joaki superstars in their own right,
and Joke are kind of becoming the face of the NBA.
But I don't think he has that household cachet that
some of the other stars do. And while Nuggets fans

(01:01:38):
don't want to hear it, heat fans love to play
the disrespect card. I mean, that's a simple reality. But
the one thing Aaron that does bail out sports books
is there's just not a lot on the betting menu.
So if you're not betting the Stanley Cup playoffs, which
are on off nights from the NBA, folks aren't walking
up there on a Sunday afternoon making a decision. Hey,
do I want to bet Sunday night baseball even if
it's between the Yankees and Dodgers, Or do I want
to bet the NBA Finals. They're going to gravitate towards

(01:02:00):
the finals first and foremost, and your beloved college baseball,
you know, Heartenbelt, apologies to your Yukon Husky, doesn't exactly
resonate with recreational betters until they get to HOMEO.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
So even with the forty percent down in television ratings,
that doesn't mean that the gambling is down. Money is
still being bed coming in pretty good for the NBA Championship, right, I.

Speaker 10 (01:02:21):
Mean, Arnie, you speak for a lot of degenerates out there.
If they put a number on a game and it's
a championship caliber or atmosphere, then it's going to generate buzz.
Now from a dollars and cent standpoint, You're right though,
typically when ratings are down, it shows that there's a
slightly more disinterested general public. But as far as this,
when you get into the depths of the summer months,
I mean, you don't have a whole lot to try

(01:02:41):
and get involved in, and for a lot of folks.
You know, once the NBA Finals wrap up, they'll go
on a little bit of a gambling sabbatical until they
start jones in for the Hall of Fame game, you know,
on that fateful Thursday in early August.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
So, Todd, I know you and Brad Powers have kind
of started rolling out some college football stuff for the season.
I know it's early, and I know a lot's going
to change. Want to give away too much from what's
on your podcast, but early on, does anything stand out
in a year where Georgia returns actually a ton outside
of Stetson Bennett, where Alabama has quarterback questions? Anything early
on the bet the Board podcast that you guys have

(01:03:13):
been talking about that the Gambler needs to look out for.

Speaker 10 (01:03:15):
Yeah, I mean, the SEC will be the last Power
of five conference we get too, so it's not playing
spoiler by any stretch. But you mentioned Georgia, Aaron, and
you go through their schedule and try and final loss.
I mean, right now, as things project, the Bulldogs will
be more than a touchdown favor in every single one
of their games. The shortest number that Georgia will face
will be that second to last Saturday of the season.
When they go to Neiland Stadium to take on Tennessee.

(01:03:36):
And look, I'm not a big believer in Joe Milton,
so who knows exactly what the balls will actually be.
When we're talking about Week eleven, Alabama a little bit
of a different story because what you've seen for the
first time in a long time is professional betters betting
Alabama under their win total. You saw the tie to
open at ten and a half and that number has
come down to ten. I mean, you haven't seen Alabama
win fewer than ten games in quite some time. But

(01:03:57):
you look at their schedule and there aren't a whole
lot easy outs when you consider it. The Week two
game against Texas, albeit it's at home, they go to
College Station and take on Texas A and M. The
game against Auburn won't be easy. A revamped LSU team
building out the momentum from last year, and you mentioned it.
I mean, when you're bringing in Tyler Buckner hoping he
could be the saving grace under center, it raises some
red flags for Alabama faithful that have grown accustomed to

(01:04:20):
NFL caliber quarterbacks operating their offense over the last handful
of years.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Todd last week before we let you go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Why does it seem like we're getting it feels like
we're getting more bets on college football and the NFL.
Now is that up hearing all this Colorado stuff and
bet the younder and people betting them to win the
championship or does it feel like people are betty.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
More on it or that just because of Colorado? You know?

Speaker 10 (01:04:42):
No, I mean I think when you look at the football,
it's always king. And as we get more and more
legalized sports betting across the country, I mean, sportsbooks are
forced to, you know, acquiesce to people's demand, and that's
creating different markets for the NFL. It's putting up more
win totals for college football odds to win conferences. I
mean years ago, and I'm not that old. When I
was behind the counter before I started working in TV

(01:05:02):
with Aaron, I mean, we wouldn't even put up college
football win totals until early August, and we would try
and focus on fifteen of the eighteen marquee programs that
were out there, so you could bet Alabama, Texas, Michigan,
and Ohio State. But the idea that you would have
the ability to bet a win total on Jacksonville State
over one hundred days before the college football season started
would have been something that a lot of the old

(01:05:23):
school book makers would have recoiled and discussed. And I
think it's just sportsbooks trying to get people involved early
with football, and the faster they can get them to
tie up their money on these win totals. They know
they've got a customer that's going to stay committed once
we actually see games start taking place for real in
weeks zero around August twenty sixth.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
By the way, a little long shot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
I'm a twenty to one long shot to replace Shadd
and Sharp to work with Skiff.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
I put some money on.

Speaker 10 (01:05:46):
That twenty twenty to one. First off, I think you
left off a couple of zeros and Arnie. For as
much as I bust your jops, well, I forget this
is still a Fox affiliate radio station. Blocks fall on
my words and not Gon make career suicide.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, I basically had to just stop talking when he
preferred to love it first.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
That's the podcast. I love it, Todd. Always a pleasure.
My Fred enjoyed the s Deadly Couple. Catch up with
you later.

Speaker 10 (01:06:09):
On always a pleasure. Gentlemen have a great week, and
again Aaron god Be putting up with.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
I appreciate you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
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We'll come back more on game two. What happened? What
went wrong for the Denver Nuggets. We'll get into that,
but first let's see what's trending. We check it with

(01:06:38):
our buddy Steve. The saga what's going on to Sega?

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Denver blows the lead, loses it home in Game two
of the NBA Finals. By the way, we mentioned the
Game one ratings that were down compared to a year
AGO's Game one of the Finals, I did the mass
down exactly one third compared to when it was Golden
State versus Boston last summer. And now these Miami heater
are not only still alive, they're tied at a game
apiece in the finals. This is the eight seed from

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the East. They've now set the record most wins by
an eight seed in a single postseason, a mark that
had been held by the nineteen ninety nine New York
Next They had twelve wins in their run. The Heat
have now won thirteen and counting, maybe in this postseason.
As for the coach who keeps coming back and winning
for Miami in this postseason, Eric Spolster's press conference, he

(01:07:26):
got this question from ESPN's Ramona Shelbourne tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:07:29):
This is probably oversimplifying things, but sometimes when teams play
against Jokis, you turn them into a score, you turn
them into a passer, and he controls the game.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
You only have four system. Yeah, that's a ridiculous you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
It's just that's the untrained eye that says something like that,
this guy's an incredible player.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
Eric Spolster at the postgame. I love that. I heard that.
I saw that on Twitter, but I really.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Quick, do you guys think it feels like I don't
know if it's because he got kind of spurned from
the MVP, it feels like more people I don't remember
ever more people going out of their way to say
how great a player is on opposing teams, and he
is a great player.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
I just I just feel like everybody's going, no, you
guys don't really understand. You think he's good. Oh, he's
way better than you think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I don't know, maybe you know what. Somebody I was
going to bring this up later on. I've never seen
a superstar get less calls in my wife.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Yeah, that's fair somebody's life. Or were you complaining about
the winding?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yes, exactly, that is still shouldn't whine about it, but yes, yes,
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
As far as Spolster's team and they're run, they keep
falling behind by double digits and still winning the game
this postseason. That seven times they've done that. They were
down fifteen points in the second quarter tonight and still
one at Denver, a team that had been nine to
zero at home in this postseason. On a night where
Nikola Jokic scores forty one points, Denver does not win,

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and now Denver's at Miami for Game three on Wednesday.
By the way, as far as having seven double digit
comeback wins in a single postseason, Golden State did that
last year. Gabe Vincent had twenty three points for the
Heat tonight. He only had seven twenty point games the
whole regular season. He's got five in this postseason run,

(01:09:10):
and the last at from the Folks appropriately at Stadhead
here tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
From two point range.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Denver shot sixty percent, Miami under fifty percent on the
two pointers, and still the Heat win the game when
they get out shot by that wide a margin on twos.
They have a winning record in these playoffs four and two,
all other teams six and twelve. In those situations, it's
like it doesn't matter, fall behind big, don't shoot as well,

(01:09:38):
give up a forty point game to the MVP candidate
on it just they keep winning. In Game three's in Miami,
Kyle Busch, the NASCAR winner. Denny Hamlin finished second at
the French Open. On the clay courts. Number one Carlos
Alcarez advanced to the quarterfinals. Yankees beat the Dodgers four
to one. Pirates won their fifth straight. Atlanta hit a
grand slam in the ninth to win at Arizona eight

(01:09:59):
to Baltimore won eight three at San Francisco. Former manager
Roger Craig has passed away. He was the Giants manager
when they made the playoffs with the Humbaby team. As
he used to always say back in the nineteen eighties,
used to teach the split finger fastball. Was pitching coach
for Sparky Anderson's Tigers when they dominated and won the
World Series in nineteen eighty four. Roger Craig was himself

(01:10:22):
a major league pitcher for twelve seasons, won a couple
World Series with the Dodgers back in the nineteen fifties.
And finally, Arnie, you pointed out something from the NCAA
tournament with the Arizona Arizona the Indiana, Yeah, Arizona and
NCAA Tournament, Those races don't go together anymore. Wow, Indiana
Hoosiers were playing yesterday, and you know there's a turnover

(01:10:45):
chain in college football to celebrate on the sideline. I
did not realize Indiana has a home run chain. Yes,
and so a guy hits a three run homer in
the seventh inning of their playoff game yesterday, a teammate
comes onto the field to celebrate and gets kicked out
of the game for it amazing and for today's loss
as well. On top of that, because per NCAA rules quote,

(01:11:10):
after a home run or scoring player at the end
of it inning, teams cannot bring celebratory props onto the
field of play, they must remain in the dugout end quote.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
So this was a So I actually know about this
because last year Tennessee was like the one of the
best regular season teams ever, but they kind of had
that like bad boy attitude and they used to like
wear fur coats out onto the field and have like
the cane and everything. And so basically the NCAA put
in this rule that you can't bring out outside props
they called the Tennessee Rule went into place this year.

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
So I guess this was this week action of it
called on it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
By the way, Xavier baseball eliminated a top ten Vanderbilt
team at Nashville today two to one. But Xavier is
losing ten to two tonight in the eighth inning against
the Oregon Ducks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Oh I love it all right, He's not to say
that's a great story. We're live at the tyrech dot
com studio Aaron Torres in for Chris Plankebartie Spander on
a busy Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I want to do want to get to some tweets.
One person text tweeted him. The reason the NBA final
ratings are down forty percent is because there's no one
the root against except Mike Malone. You know, it's funny
that he put that in there. I don't find them
a very likable guy. What do you think about him?
Head coach? I just don't find them very likable.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Well he did the whole, especially in that Laker series,
you know, the whole. Nobody believes in us and right,
you know, you guys still want to talk about this
the Lebron and this guy and that guy. So so yeah,
I you know, I I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
I don't dislike him necessarily, but I can see where
other people would be annoyed by him, because it does
feel as though it is it is a thing where
it seems like, you know, I don't know, he he can't.
I can see where he could get under people's skin.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
I really could.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
He just comes off like that, doesn't he though? He
comes off a little bit bullish. Is that fair to
say that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
I think it's fair to say.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
And I mean even you know, I don't know, like like,
I don't want to be too critical because I mean,
you know, he's just saying the truth. But you know,
after game one, oh, we haven't won anything yet, and tonight. Oh,
you know, it's right about that. I know, I know,
and that's why I can't be critical of that. But
even tonight, oh, you know, our guys didn't show I
don't know. It's it's it's a it's a what do

(01:13:26):
they say, a fine needle to thread or whatever like
where you want to be honest, you want to be transparent,
you want to defend your guys in success. But I
don't know, something doesn't rub me the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
And so a little bit Popovich's, you know, a little
bit like Papovich just now when you think or no.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
You know, I'm not a Popovich guy, and I I
am very much in that corner of Popovich. You know,
he always wants to be the funny you know, he
always wants to be the funny guy when things are
going good, and then the second things go bad all
of a sudden, then he's kind of a not nice person.
So so yeah, maybe a little bit of Popovich, I
could see that for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
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Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
One point one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
When we get back, we'll check it with the Saga
stories that we haven't got to yet that's coming to
next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
All right, good evening, everybody live at the tire rack
dot com studios.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Let's check it with Steve the Sager to see what
stories we've not gotten to yet.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
What's going on to Sega?

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Well, one item from the NBA Finals is Denver lost
at home here despite forty one points from Nikola Jokic.
Last year, Apparently, when the Dallas Mavericks had Luka Donsich
scoring forty, they went oh and three in the postseason.
The Nuggets are oh and three and Jokic this postseason
scores forty and two thousand and nine Cavaliers. When Lebron

(01:15:06):
scored forty, the Cavs went one and three that particular postseason. Anyway,
Game three's at Miami on Wednesday, and Miami's gonna have
to win a road game. Of course, at some point
they'll be back in Denver later in the series. It's
one game apiece right now. But the Heat have now
won seven times on the road in this single postseason.
The record, the record's nine. Remember when the Rockets with

(01:15:28):
Alajuan won in the mid nineties and they were I
think a sixth seed. They had nine road wins in
that run, seven and counting. Maybe for Miami, we shall see.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Now they're done. That's done. Zo, it's gonna be in five.
They're done. They're done. That's it. I can't believe they
could keep pulling this side what they did in the
fourth quarter. You've been saying that for two months. I
know that I gotta be right sooner or later.

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
Starting April, the Miami Heats record was forty and thirty seven.
This is not the team that we all say, oh yeah,
they'll be in the Fritals. They lost their playing openerz
to and I had to beat Chicago to stay alive
just after that before they formally qualified for what the
league calls the postseason. One thing, Artie, you and I
both saw the same tennis story this afternoon. This is

(01:16:12):
amazing because yes, now I saw when they were showing
yesterday Coco Golf's match in singles, her teenage opponent was
so ticked at losing a point she just hammered a
tennis ball into the seats and got a warning. Apparently
it didn't injure anybody, because what happened in doubles at
the French Open today is by accident. After a point,

(01:16:33):
somebody fairly softly backhanded a tennis ball into the opposite corner,
but the ball girl wasn't looking and it hit her
and really upset her. And it turns out that the
team that hit the ball got defaulted. They're kicked out
of the tournament. This was actually how the thing sounded
on Tennis Channel today.

Speaker 9 (01:16:53):
The ball kid and you could tell it was in
it Burton. She was hitting the ball back. But it
is the rule. If you hit a ballperson or a
lines person, anyone in the stands, is an automatic default.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
That is automatic automatic default. Can you imagine I fuf
on the sideline and Patrick Mahomes runs me over and
I go, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
So broken up. I can't get to you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
They need the foreman, they need the foreman. That is
the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
And officially it was just a warning, you know, initially
from the chair umpire. But then the tournament referee comes
on the court and the Grand Slam supervisor comes on
the court and one of the officials, initially according to
one of the winning players, said, well, the ref said,
you know, it has to do some kind of harm
to the person affected by the tennis ball. And she

(01:17:42):
says some kind of harm. Ask the other Ask the
other team what happened, because you know, it looked to
me on video like this ballgirl was hyperventilating. She really
had a bad and she was really crying hard.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
Give her a hundred bucks.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
Just an odd way for this team to be out
of a Slam tournament. And finally I did not realize
until one Arnie Spaniard pointed out to our producer that
tonight is the anniversary of ten cent beer night at
a Cleveland Indians game that went awry in nineteen seventy four.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
It was as bad as it sounds, but making.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
It worse is it was Rangers at Cleveland and those
two teams had had a big bench clearing brawl just
a week before. And also there was no limit on
how many you could buy. There was a limit on
how many in one trip, but not in how many trips.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
You could go back.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
There's been a documentary made on this night in Cleveland.
It was ten cents right, Yes, absolutely, it was a
oh here's the clip.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
I got it right here.

Speaker 7 (01:18:47):
Philly Martin said that he thought that Burrows had been
knocked down, and so he gets a back and says, boys,
let's go get him.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
I mean, I'd say they did not play nine pm
A bath.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
I have mentioned before on the Sunday Night Show that
the Basketball World Cup takes place at the end of
this summer. The Athletic reporting that Pacers all star Tyrese
Halliburton will be playing for the US at this tournament.
Steve Kerr, Arnie's supposed friend from Golden State, is the
US head coach in this tournament. Eric Spolster the Heat
is going to be one of his assistants. The tourney
starts in late August in Asia also committing. According to

(01:19:28):
the article, Austin reeves to play for the US this year.
Mcal Bridges, Anthony Edwards, and Bobby Portis. We do know
the US will face New Zealand, Greece and then Jordan
in their group. That's the country of Jordan. The US
is going to be playing in Manila. Other tournament games
are going to be in Okinawa and Jakarta. We don't
know the official twelve man Team USA roster. That'll be

(01:19:49):
officially announced later, but it will be selected by Grant Hill.
He is the managing director for USA Men these days.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
So shock that Curtin asked me to be a coach.
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think we I think we found your burner account.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Oh yeah, which one's that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Mark tweets in at Aaron underscore Torres, I do not
understand whatever it is that leads you to believe your
constant banging on Arnie is something anyone else wants to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
It ain't cute.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Thankfully, Emmett aka the blind Seahawks fan, has my back.
He says, it's all in good fun, nothing personal. Am
I bashing? If everything I say this.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
Is pretty tame.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
We we know each other's throats, and Saturday nights when
we worked together for four years, we were.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
Not We were having fun. I believe me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
If if you get if you get sensitive in his business,
you're in the wrong business, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
I barely even reference to your age. I've only mentioned
once that your wife does all the shoveling. Yes, exactly,
I mean, this is like, uh, you know, on a
scale of one to ten Torres being mean, I think
this is like a two and one and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
You and I are phil and again tomorrow for Jason Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
And Mike Carmon had good material for then, right seven
p to eleven p uh Pacific, So we'll do four
hours of that show. And then I gave you Tuesday
off because I felt that the saga is really not
working hard enough. So be me and the Saga on Tuesday.
But I'm gonna make him do the updates also, so
I'm gonna make him double.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Dep Why don't you you should do the updates?

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Oh I would, I'd be the best update guy we have.
That wouldn't be fair.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
I don't want. I don't think that's true too.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
That's offensive to MANSI because we have more than just
update guys.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
In this place.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
That is forward thinking company. But anyway, yes, yes.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Arnie, the guy that works two days a week talking
to guys work one day week, one day.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
That's right, Saturday. Well he filled in a lot on
Saturdays the last year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Okay, yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Well, you you gotta work harder, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
This isn't nineteen seventy two anymore? Okay, Arnie the Sega.
You and I have worked shows before.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
Have we not?

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
Or what with nobody else? I don't know about that.
We'll have all three of us tomorrow, for example.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
No, but Tuesday, you have you and I ever worked
the show before? Just doing a show?

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
Well, maybe the producer will chime in, maybe it'll be
a third person then on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
Yeah, look at you. You're afraid to be alone with me?
Is that what the problem is there? To say? Like
most of the popularity, that sounds very creepy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Sounds like you're driving around with a van asking to
you know, hand out hand candy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Yeah, okay, let's get at it. We got a lot
to get to.

Speaker 10 (01:23:29):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
By the way, you you asked me about Shay, I yes,
I wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
We not have a connection.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
In minor league hockey, last year's Shade tried out after school. Uh,
he finished college, so he doesn't get to play college anymore.
He tried out for the Federal Prospect Hockey League and
he made the Watertown Wolves. No, that was kind of
a long shot to him to make the team, but
he made the team. Played for about two three months.

(01:23:58):
I actually got into a game or two, gave up
no goals, and then he was released after that because
each team goes through like ten goalies out there and
that was pretty much it. So I'm he's going to
be trying out again for the FED League. I don't
have any connections. I don't know anybody that has any
connections in minor league hockey.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Uh, and we work for a sports network. I have
no connections to Orez. You should be able to find something.
Somebody does. Anybody work in the Federal Hockey League that's
listening right now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
One guy he owns like three four teams. Oh that's
not good. No, well, I mean he's a he's a
good owner. He's a good owner.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Then so I gotta I gotta figure out, you know
where she's going to do try.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Out out collusion, that's not collusion.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Nah, they don't care. They don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
So the Players Association and uh, the Federal Hockey League
is it the Federal Prospects Hockey League?

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
But you know what they call it the Federal Prospects
Hockey League. But you got thirty two, thirty three, thirty
four year old guys playing in the league. Dude, if
you if you ever made it by that, get the
hell out, you know, b Yeah, I want him to
try out for the Baton Rouge team. They're gonna be
a new team this year. I think that's great. That'd
be awesome go down for a football game. I would

(01:25:11):
have a blast down there. How much fun would I
have going down the Baton Rouge for a weekend? The
Baton Rouge, it says, the Baton Rouge pro hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
They don't have a nickname yet. They haven't voted on
the nickname yet.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Maybe they'll be called the Chase after he saves the franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
So you know, I does anybody have any connections? Please,
you know, go ahead and get hold of me on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
It does stick a genius one. I gotta do something
for my kid.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
My goodness, what good is me being in sports talk
radios if my kids have any connections and in minor
league hockey.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Didn't give them looks, didn't give them charm. That all
came from your wife. So I mean, yeah, in the
least you can do is leverage this job. Somebody listening
has to be working in the federal And I.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Asked Eddie Garcia, who is our hockey guy doesn't know
anybody in minor league hockey ast a friend of mine,
he does hockey for another network.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Nothing, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I even said, look, I'll go on the air and
well we'll pump up his merchandise for crying out loud.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Yeah nothing, I'm getting nothing so far. So I'll buy
a Baton Rouge hockey T shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
I man, Yeah, there you go, making a big thing.
So if anybody's got a connection, you know Jonas, Brady
Quinn's brother in law is a hockey player Jack Johnson.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Oh I didn't know that. Yeah. So, but they won't
do anything to help me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
No, so yeah, I mean the brother in law of
the co host of the guy you know won't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
That's they won't do anything. They won't help me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
It's totally shocking.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
You don't know Brady, right, So you're basically leaning on
Jonas to do right, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Leaning on and he won't do anything to help me either.
He's big time now, so he's big time in me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Well, I don't blame him. I wouldn't help you. No,
I would help you. He's a morning guy now, so
why should he.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
That would be like being like, oh yeah, Jason Martin's
nephew is uh plays in this league?

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
Let me let me like it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
I don't think it's that easy that you just make
a phone call.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Well, I'm looking at Twitter right now. Nobody has any connections.
Out of all the quarter of a billion people that
listen to us in any month, not one person has
a connection the minor league hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
I don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Mike Purchase tweeted in hey, stinky Jesus's just me. I
can't be the only one who thinks, Oh, Eric Spolstra, Arnie,
why so insensitive? Why so insensitive to an injured girl?

Speaker 10 (01:27:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
That must have been about the about the tennis story, Ennis, Yes, yes, yes,
yeah that was.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
I just don't know why it was a forfeit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
But anyway, if you have any minor league hockey connections,
please go ahead and get a hold of me on Twitter.
So I could have my kid have some type of
job when he's done. He wanted to go to law school.
I'm like, I'm not paying for law school, so you
could be another unemployed.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Lawyer out there. That's all we need. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
The lawyer that is that is a that is a
very uh gen z uh. I don't know what I
want to do. So I just did twenty years of school,
so I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
I'll just go to law school.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
And didn't he he had? He did like five or
six years in college.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Right, five? Actually, no, he did four years ago. Okay, okay, cool, Yeah,
so it's not that bad. He just started late because
of hockey. Oh okay, that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
But I'm not paying for no law school, nothing enough.
You might say something on air you might need a lawyer,
just saying I have lawyers.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
I don't have to send him to law school for that.
Oh you have lawyers.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Yeah that's for damn sure. Forget about law school. But
we got Game two to talk about because in Miami
he winned what eleven one o eight.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
I'm still kind of shocked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
As we told you, Denver had a fifteen point lead
in the first half, eight point lead, I believe in
the second or in the fourth quarter. We talked about
this earlier. I think that the Denver Nuggets let it
slip away more so than Miami when he get Miami
had a great fourth quarter where they outscored him by eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
They had to just they.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Were unbelievable shooting the ball. They were phenomenal and able
to pull it out. This saves the series. Don't think
if they lost that game and they go down to
nothing that the series is o ver, that it's done
tho and they were never gonna come back from that.
Even though they haven't played at home. Now it's a
whole new thing. Even though I still think Denver's.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
Gonna win it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
That was a bad loss for the Nuggets. Really should
not have lost that game. Let it slip through their
fingerstar as.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
Yeah, and I say this is somebody who was on
air last night in this same time slot saying I
didn't really see the pathway for the Miami Heat to
win this series. Well, twenty four hours later, it feels
like a completely different situation, right. It feels like a
situation where now the series is even. Now Miami has
the home court advantage, and now you know, I think

(01:29:41):
they're very much in it now. With that said, I
do think, while I acknowledge that the series feels different,
I do feel like it felt like Denver more gave
that game away.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
Then.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
It's not to say I don't want to discredit Miami,
but it felt like Denver did give that game away.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
To a degree.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
We talked about Mike Malone's quote earlier when Mike Malone
essentially said that, you know, he felt like some of
his guys didn't show up to play. And then on
top of that, it goes without saying that, you know,
you have a big run without Jokich early in the
second quarter, and you can't really capitalize on that. You
maintain the lead into the fourth quarter and then completely
melt down.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
So I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
It feels like the the Nuggets gave that one away,
and I think it's one they might regret for the
rest of the series because you go up two to Oho.
I know that they would have to go on the
road at that point, but still it's it's a situation
where you feel a lot better than dropping one to
these Miami heat.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Now the Sager told you there was about eleven million
people watching last year. Now it's down the seven million,
a decrease of anywhere between thirty three it's about thirty
eight percent. I feel that are is there just less
NBA fans out there or is it just you know
that there's no interest in this NBA Finals because of

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the names on the front of the jerseys called Denver
and Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
Or is there because there's no really big superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
But I think Jokic is an Hall of Famer, but
for some reason, he doesn't move the needle. That's a
big decrease, Torres. I'm just wondering why so many people
are not watching the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Let me switch gears on. I want to ask you
a quick question. Is I know you said in an
hour one that you were not rooting for the Miami Heat.
Let's say they do come back and win this series, though,
and I know they're not the traditional eight seed, and
we talked about that, and I do think you're right
on that is that this is not Cinderella plucky underdog.
They were in the finals two years ago, they were

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in the Eastern Conference finals last year. But given the
number of undrafted guys, given that this is maybe Jimmy
Butler's last great opportunity at thirty three years old, given
that pat Riley is now what in his late seven.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Like Kevin Love also no, but yeah, I think he's
a good guy to be honest with you, So would
you like upsets not the right word, but like you said,
you literally said, I am not rooting for the Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
He team. Would you be like, would you be upset
if they won?

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Like, I wouldn't be upset because I'm not a big
Denver fan. I just want to see Denver win their
first championship. So and by the way, an old ABA team, right,
it was Denver, New Jersey, Indiana.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
San Antonio Spurs right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
And the Nets though, so there wasn't that many. I'm
wrong on one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
Then san Antonio. San Antonio should have been one. Yes,
the Nets should have been one. Nuggets, the Nuggets, the Nets.
I say that twice.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
But anyway, Yeah, I just want to see them win
and you get that first championship. You know, I just
don't think Miami's this big underdog like everybody thinks they are.
I don't consider it one of the most remarkable stories
in sports history. I don't even really consider him a
true number eight seed if it wasn't for the injury
they had during the course of the year. Just something

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about them kind of just rubs me the wrong way
out of maybe it's the fans or or whatnot. I'm
not not really sure what it is. I just I
just just don't enjoy them winning this, you know that
being this lovable underdog that everybody has them out there
to be.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
You know what I mean, Dorez, I'm I'm with you
from the perspective that I don't think there's some unbelievable underdog. Again,
I know I just said it, but was a shot
away from the NBA Finals last year, made the NBA
Finals in the bubble in twenty twenty. But I also,
like I do, I do enjoy the story because of
the collection of guys, right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
I mean, look at it. Look at our Twitter account.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
We have as many tweets outside the NBA Championship as
the NBA Championship. There's people giving us tweets on tennis
stories and stuff like that, not so much NBA Championship stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
You know, I will say, I will say, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
What it is.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
It does feel like the juice to this series is
a little bit less than normal.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Like I mean, less than normal.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
Yeah, I was gonna say, even in years, I mean,
you know, last year you obviously had Steph, but even
in twenty twenty one, it's Buck's Sons, but you have
Chris Paul. Everybody knows Chris Paul no.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Villain, you know what I mean. We got a star
in Jokic, but for some reason, he doesn't move the needn't.
And there's no villain out there that you can really
hate that everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
Wants to go against. You seem to hate Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Well, I just don't think he's a big the big
superstar that everybody else makes him out to be.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
That doesn't mean I hate him, you know, doesn't mean
you hate him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Okay, I think he's a likable guy, to be honest
with you, I just I just don't buy into it.
I get it, but it goes into the whole other
dog thing. Jimmy Butler a great superstar, Miami most remarkable
run right now in sports history, And so if you're.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Saying that they're not some unbelievable underdog, then you probably
have to acknowledge Jimmy Butler's a superstar.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
I just think that there may be have a little
bit better of a team, and without their injuries, they
wouldn't have been an eighth seed or whatever they were,
you know, trying to fight their way in.

Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
I think. But still by.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
Definition, you're saying a team that has no superstars in
the NBA finals.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
That is true, but that is true, and then Denver
is too. That's why I picked Ever to win this thing.
Before start, they have a two time MVP, I said, too,
you'll Kitchen Murray. Yeah, I love Murray. I think he's
like one of the most underrated superstars in all the NBA.
Not superstars stars, how about that?

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
So No, he's He's very good and I'm happy, especially
coming off the injury and all that stuff A year go.
By the way, I'll say this a bun jam Murray.
He had a dunk tonight. I didn't know he could
get up like that like he.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Is, but he got hit in the head and he
was mad about that. I know he could have gotten
hurt bad on that play.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
I thought they should have let him gone. I thought
that was a bad defensive play.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
On that part. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Yes, I have one question about the Nuggets. I want
to bring it. I know we you know, we might
be up against it. I do want to hit you
with it before we get out of here. Maybe in
the next segment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
All right, we'll get we'll get to that question. And
I want you to clear up some things about the
pack twelve football thing going on playing. Can I fight
about this like every Sunday, So I want to get
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Torres for Plank, I'm Arnie Spanier right here on Fox
Sports or Radio. All right, good evening, everybody. Aeron Torres
in for Chris Plank. I'm Arnie Spanier right here on
Fox Sports Radio. Tres, and I back tomorrow for Mike Harmon, well,
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, and then Tuesday, I'm gonna

(01:36:34):
make the saga work.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
So we got the we got the whole thing down. Boy.
People A little upset tonight, people, a little moody tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Uh, Torres, Yeah, I got another one that I just
spit out, the dumbest segment filled with complete garbage that
this person has ever heard.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Of course his uh.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
We didn't even say anything. You didn't even say anything.
You carry that segment I said, you know, what, are
a feeling himself? I'm gonna let him carry that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
No, but you didn't even you didn't even say anything controversial.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
Not even nothing. What did I say that? Though?

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
I don't know, it's blewet more than Miami won it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
I don't even know. I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
And here's a guy, Corey that says I know a
Federal League hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
Owner Arnie, but Artie didn't respond.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
To a tweet I dig them a week or so ago.
Oh so if the Seger gets a Twitter account and
tweets this hour, that I'll make the introduction. Oh, first
of all, that's not true, because I pretty much respond
to everybody that sends me one, and the Sega doesn't
have a Twitter account, he never gets one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
Well, all I'll say is this guy that tweeted that,
he does his Twitter profile does say media relations.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Oh so he hit the like button. I did it
the like button.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
I mean, you gotta he shouted him out on national radio.
I mean, oh I did not. Now, if you know somebody,
I gotta kiss his backside.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
Now. So all right, what's the question you had for
me about the game?

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
No, you just mentioned how much you like Jamal Murray,
and you know, I'm trying, like, where do you think, Like,
I don't even know what the question is. I'm just
curious what like the future of those two is because
they're both such young guys. I think Joki is about
twenty six twenty seven, Murray a few years younger.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Well, Murray got hurt, he missed a couple of years
in the playoffs, and he went out to the Nuggets
and said, are you guys going to try to trade me?

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
They said, no way, You're our guy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
And I think he's gonna be a Denver nugget for life,
to be honest with, There's really no reason to give
up on them.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
He's playing phenomenally.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
He's a great score During the regular season, he was
only a sixteen seventeen point a game guy, I believe,
but look what he's doing in the playoffs. No, he's
gonna be a nugget for the rest of his life.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Yeah, Jokics just turned twenty eight and Murray just turned
twenty six. So I'm just curious because I think that,
you know, when we talk about the duos in the NBA,
the natural, you know, thing, is to talk about Lebron
and ad to talk about herten and mbat if they
continue on in Philadelphia, Kawhi and Paul Joe, all these guys.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
Wouldn't even be the top fifty duos of all time,
that's for sure, But these two would not be, No,
not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
Not.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
That's what like, because like, you know, you think about that,
they could have potentially ten twelve, fifteen years together. Still
maybe not fifteen, but ten twelve years together.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
I heard somebody say this to the other day. I
thought it was funny. I think it was Ryan Rascilla
from The Ringer said something to the effect of they're
like Stockton and Malone, only interesting or only fun to watch,
or something like that, And I thought there was something
to that, like it's not in apples to apples. John Stockton,
of course was the point guard, pick and roll, blah
blah blah. But there's such a unique duo and they're

(01:39:36):
so fun to watch. And I think, again, I understand
Murray's had some injuries, but you're talking about a guy
that's twenty eight, that just turned twenty eight and just
turned twenty six. They could have another ten twelve years.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Again, when you say they're so fun to watch, does
that include the part where Jokic goes that's three calls
in their own starts crying every time every time, I.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
Mean he does.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
And by the way, yes, they missed about three calls
on that, and he is the biggest superstar in the
NBA that doesn't get the call.

Speaker 4 (01:40:01):
But that's just part of life, man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
I mean, you can't be the crying that goes on
in the NBA. And it's not just Jokic. If Lowry
says one more word that he did, that guy's never
knocked the ball out of bounds, he's never committed a foul.
Every foul is against the other guy.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
I just hate that. Really.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
It's it's getting old that every time the ball goes
out of bounds, ten hands go up five one way
and five the other way, no matter every time.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
It's it's it's getting to be old.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
It's gotta be really ridiculous all the crying and are
the referees that bad or is it? You know, it's
it's all these players with the attitude and the flopping
and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
That's what makes it unbearable. To be honest with you, Torres.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's just the nature
of the game. And it's too much though, it's it's
way too much. The crying has got to stop. You're
talking like you saw tears that You're like, I saw
Jokic crumbing it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
How about throwing a fit? Is that? Is that a
better tag for it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
I mean throwing a fit where he's like, you know,
he does the look around.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
I can't with the hands look it up, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Replay replay you only get to you don't get a
hundred of them every time the ball goes out of bounds. Sure,
I mean it's it's just so old with the the
reps miss then they.

Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
Do miss calls. It's a tough game to call.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
But the constant I mean every time it doesn't matter
to make a difference who it is. If there's a
close call, somebody's complaining about it, you know, they always are.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
It does, and it takes away a little bit of
the of you know, of of the flow of the
game and of the excitement of the game. Unfortunately, I
think it's just part of the league right now and
part of the game. But uh, but what are you
gonna do? By the way, Arnie, all those baseball games
just finally went final. I've been kind of monitoring them.
There was like four college baseball games on during this tournament.

(01:41:54):
Not a single one of them was on TV for
whatever reason. I think they're all final at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
By the way that guy tweeted back in he he
made a mistake. It should have been stinking genius with
the response to this segment, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
So, okay, I'm going to take a hook.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Okay, so I said the most dumbest thing in the
history of sports.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Right now I was gonna say, I say, he called
himself a clown. So all this forgiven on my listen,
I don't even care. Now he's forgiving and you love
him because he's attacking me. Well before that, when he
was attacking you, he's a horrible person. All I'll say is,
you know, listen, I have said some stuff on these
airwaves that would be deemed crazy or controversial or whatever.
I just didn't know what I said. I was like,

(01:42:31):
what did I say that? I thought the nuggets blew
the leads? So whatever, But it's okay, Well, I'm you know,
I'm still I don't know. You know, we got Mark
over here yelling at me because I'm being too mean
to you and now this guy is tagging me, but
he's actually tagging you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
And by the way, I just want to say, are
the refs doing a horrible job in the playoffs?

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
Or are are we just critical of every call they
make out there?

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
Even the broadcast crew gets on the referees about the
mistakes they made.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
Yeah, I'm kind of over that broadcast care I'm gonna
be honest. Everyone talks about how great there. I think
Mike Breen is great. I think the other two I
could kind of take her leave.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
You don't like them at all? The uh.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
I think it's a lot of whining, and it's a
lot of this, and it's a lot of that. I
I you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
I don't want to be mean. It's just it is
what it is. But yeah, I'm just I'm not a
huge I'm not a huge fan of that crew. I
like Mike Breen, but the rest of them could take
her leave.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
So Mark Jackson and Van Gundy a little.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Too much for you, huh. I think it's a little
whiny at some points.

Speaker 7 (01:43:29):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
Yeah, They've been doing it a long time now.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Mark Jackson was up for a job though, I thought, uh,
a coaching job that he didn't get.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
Well, yeah, because he had Jokich thirty seventh on his
MVP valve.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Actually he didn't have mine at all. To be perfectly right, what.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Did he just say? He just said he left them
off by accident. Was a simple mistake that I forgot.
I don't know how you forget one of the top
two guys all year. I mean, I don't have an
MVP vote, but like to forget one of the top
two guys. I don't know if it was like the
fourth guy, because I think you have to put in
five votes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:59):
That'd be one thing. But what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
You look what he must have said to himself. How
did I leave that off? I can't believe nobody don't
check it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
He was gonna get the Sun's job and now poof
gone because he couldn't, uh, because he couldn't get his
ballot right.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
But but yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (01:44:14):
Hey, they're fine, they're fine. I just like I said,
I think they get a little whiny sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
So I think Chris Pine should do some of the
play by play on that. How what do you think.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
He's too busy calling another championship?

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
I mean you know this team never loses. Y know,
Oh that is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
It is Are you getting into the softball and I
know you're getting into.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
The men's baseball Championship. I know that I do like
the baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
I haven't watched as much softball, but my softball people
are just like, dude, this Oklahoma team is unbelievable. I mean,
I know they they're always good and they're always competing
at the highest level, but this year everyone's saying it's
like next, next, next level.

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I think this show is number one in Peoria now,
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Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
I mean the one day easily the best Sunday filling
that they've had yet in pueris all right?

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
When we come back, you gotta give me an answer
to that PA Pac twelve question. I want to get
but was playing. Can I fight about this just about
every Sunday. We'll get into that more about game two first, though,
Let's see what's trending.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Final check in with the saga. What's going on to Sega?

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
And that's why Chris Plank isn't here because of that
amazing number one ranked Oklahoma softball team. They're in the
Monday Semis at the World Series. And I had read that.
I think it's in the last twelve years. They have
twelve titles in the Big Twelve and they've only lost
about twelve games.

Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
In conference and something like that. Gee, it's just silly.

Speaker 5 (01:45:57):
They've won fifty straight games this season, the NCAA record,
passing the Arizona mark. So they're fifty eight to one
going into tomorrow against Stanford, which eliminated Washington won nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Today they broke the record. They were down seven to
four in the last inning with two they were down
to the last strike and they had a three run.

Speaker 5 (01:46:14):
Homer and then one at extra innings. Tennessee today eliminated
the Oklahoma State that was tonight three one. So the
balls are in the Semis tomorrow night against Florida State,
and there is still one college baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
Tournament game going on. The NCAA tournament started this weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:46:29):
There was apparently a rain delay and lightning delay at Alabama,
so a top ten Alabama team is in the bottom
of the eighth up eight to nothing, ready to take
care of Boston College, but wins in the late night
hour for Oregon Oregon State and Stanford, Arkansas and Southern
miss One. There was an amazing feat today for TCU's
Trey Richardson.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
Oh I saw this unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
In the first two innings, he hit two grand slams.
His team won at number three ranked Arkansas twenty to five.
If you look at the box, the guy went five
for six with three homers and eleven RBIs just amazing.
Vanderbilt lost at home in Nashville. Number one Wake Forest
did advance and in baseball number two Florida stay Alive,

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beating Yukon and Texas Tech. Texas won at a top
ten Miami team, eliminating the Hurricanes. Well, we had the
Miami Heat eight seed from the East winning in the
NBA Finals at Denver tonight. It's tied at a game
apiece this series. Miami was down fifteen in the second
quarter but still came back to win the game one eleven,
one aweight. Jamal Murray missed the last shot. He otherwise

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had a fine game eighteen points, ten assists, just one turnover.
Nikola Jokic forty one points in the loss. He had
forressis five turnovers. Game three's at Miami on Wednesday, and
heat guard Tyler Hero is still out. Maybe he'll return Wednesday.
Max Struce in the opener for Miami was oh of
ten shooting from the floor. He hit four three pointers

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in the first quarter tonight. Tyler Hero, by the way,
averaged twenty points a game this season, and then in
the first half of the first game of the first
round broke his hand. He's trying to come back from surgery.
This guy a year ago when he was coming off
the bench was the league sixth Man of the Year.
But a stunning result for a Nuggets team that had
been undefeated at home this postseason nine to oh league

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record still ten and oh. By the way, the Denver
Nuggets had won seven straight games overall in these playoffs,
going back four weeks. First off, it's amazing you've gone
a month without losing. Second, you've only played seven games
in the last time.

Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
That's crazy. Yeah, that's actually true. They haven't lost at
home since March thirtieth.

Speaker 5 (01:48:33):
I think, wow, until tonight. Yes, since March. You're correct.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
We have NBA Draft.

Speaker 5 (01:48:38):
Near the end of the month, Victor Webbin Yama's team
Overseas advanced to the French League finals. He had fifteen
points five blocks their final start.

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
Next not even a good league? Are they playing against
guys like me or something? I mean, come on, let's
just say it's a little better than you. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
Stanley Cup Game twos Monday night. Vegas won last night's
opener five to two over Florida with three goals in
the third. Neither franchise has ever won the Cup. Kyle
Busch the NASCAR winner. Denny Hamlin finished second. That race
ended tonight in Illinois. It'd have been stopped by weather
for an hour forty five with lightning in the area,
and there was another stoppage with about forty laps left
due to a wreck, and then they had five restarts.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
Kyle Busch the winner.

Speaker 5 (01:49:16):
The story was on the LPGA side, believe it or not,
Rose Jang winning in her pro debut at Stanford. She
just won the second straight individual NCAA title in golf.
She just turned twenty. She was named the world's top
amateur golf for each of the last three years. In New Jersey.
Today she wins in a playoff and earns over four

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hundred thousand dollars. She just finished her two years of
college golf. She's a pro rookie. She plans to play
all four women's majors this year in college. This season,
she won eight times in ten stars, which broke Tiger
Woods Stanford record. The win today gets her automatic tour membership.
She just won her latest college title a week and

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a half ago, onto the women's peg which is in
New Jersey. Also in a two and a half weeks.
She's from southern California. Victor Hovlin took the Memorial on
the PGA side in a playoff at the French Open.
Number one Carlos Alcarez advance to the quarterfinals. A reminder
Horse racings Belmont Stakes Race is Saturday on Fox TV.
The early races will be on FS one this coming weekend.

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Did you see Churchill?

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
Downs?

Speaker 5 (01:50:21):
After this weekend will now suspend its current meet after
twelve horse fatalities in the past month, They're moving Dodgers
lost at home to the Yankees four to one. The
game was scoreless after six innings. The Yanks, in the
three games in LA this weekend, hit eight homers. Last
time they visited, they hit nine homers there four years ago.
Texas wins again twelve three over Seattle pitcher Nathan Evaldi,

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eight and two. Corey Seeger solo homer, three runs scored.
He's batting three forty nine for Texas. Atlanta one with
a grand slam top of the ninth, eight to five
at Arizona. The Padres with that payroll are twenty seven
and thirty two.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
No, that's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
They were down to the Cubs seven to nothing in
the third, d three long homers, seven to one Cubs
the final, and the Mets with that pay roll thirty
and thirty they lost at home six four to tournament
doddrafan though I don't say that. Mets did hit four
solo homers today, one of them from Pete Alonzo his tes.
But the A's lost again seven to five at Miami,
two runs bottom of the night. The Oakland A's record

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twelve and forty nine. Their next three opponents. They're at
Pittsburgh for a three game series. Pirates just won their
fifth in a row. Then they're at Milwaukee for three.
Milwaukee's been good. Then they played Tampa Bay for four.
So they're twelve and forty nine and counting the Oakland
A's And if you wanted to get tickets for Oakland
at Miami the three game weekend series. Friday night's attendance

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was eight thousand, Saturday was ten thousand, Today was twelve thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
Unbolieved. Dam that's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Thank you the SEGA, see you tomorrow night, of course, Torres.
And for Chris Blank right here on Fox Sports Radio
Morning Spaniard, a couple things real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
Just I asked you about the Pack twelve. Let's go
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
I saw Connecticut, Gonzaga. What's going on in my Arizona Wildcats?
Plank and I fight every Sunday. I pretty much say
that PAC twelve is done, and it's finished the way
we know it. Obviously, besides Jucila and USC, there's gonna
be more people leaving. Plank doesn't believe in that. What
do you think is happening out of here?

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
I think there's more people leaving. It's just whether it's
so much where the Pac twelve doesn't exist anymore. What
I could tell you, and obviously I'm following it a
little closely because Miama mater is involved, Your alma mater
is involved, right, What I think is interesting And Brett
or Mark, the Big Twelve commissioner, talked about it on
Friday of this past week. They're very publicly trying to

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build the best basketball conference that they can. And I
think what they've kind of realized is there's no Texas
in Oklahoma to replace Texas and Oklahoma from the football side, right,
But if we build the best basketball conference, then whatever
direction college sports goes.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
You know, we talk about power or five.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Is there a Power five without the bait without If
the Pac twelve doesn't exist, what about the ACC? How
long are they going to be around four? You can't
have a power five without including the Big twelve. If
you add an Arizona, a Yukon, a Gonzaga, and then
at that point it's a Power three to some degree.
You have to include them in any conversation about football,

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about basketball certainly, so that appears to be where they're going, Arnie,
And I'll tell you, I know it sounds crazy because
Yukon and Arizona and what do these schools have to
do with each other. I think schools like that are
actually the schools being targeted more than some of the
football powers.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Yeah, but then what do you do about football? No offense,
It's not like we're powerhouses. Plus Gonzaga football do they
even have football?

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
So football? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
So what are you going to do in that situation
or does it not make a difference whatsoever?

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Well, with Gonzaga, I guess you would just bring them
on as a non you know, a school. He has
a non football school. Everybody else has football, though, I
mean Yukon has football, San Diego State has football, Arizona
you gouta stell football, right you guys?

Speaker 4 (01:54:02):
Thank you. We're winning the Pac twelve this year, Thank
you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
You know you got you guys got one year left
to get to the Rose Bowl. Before the Rose Bowl,
I don't even know if it's going to exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
So you think it's that we're eventually going to to
merge or the Pack twelve is still going to be
the cal Stanford, Washington and watch Pac T twelve will
still exist.

Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
But I think they're going to lose schools. Colorad Diego
State will be there, I guess. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
You tell me, well, Colorado, I could tell you. I
think it's pretty much done that they're leaving. I mean,
the reports came out this week that they've had multiple
conversations with the Big Twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:54:37):
I think they're leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
And then it just becomes a question of how many
other schools go with them now really quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
I know people say, you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Just said tours, it's about basketball, Why would they take Colorado? Well, Colorado, remember,
of course, has a pretty high profile head football coach
right now. He's not from Texas originally, but obviously has
ties to Texas behind the scenes. I think he's pushing
pretty hard to get Colorado in the Big twelve because
again has a home in Dallas, spends the off seasons
in Dallas, all that good stuff. So I think Colorado's

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definitely going. And then I think after that they're targeting
basketball schools, And yes, I think that involves my alma mater, Yukon.
I think it involves your alma mater, Arizona. So maybe
we'll be conference rivals here in a few years.

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
You love it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
We need that easy victory every year by we'll come back,
we'll wrap things up.

Speaker 4 (01:55:23):
We'll get to some picks.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
All that coming up next right here on Fox Sports
all radio work.

Speaker 4 (01:55:28):
On the right side. Stick it out top to Duncan.
He loves it to his left to the Lowry.

Speaker 7 (01:55:32):
You want to give it back, but held on to it,
pulling it back six on the shot clock.

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
Lowry uses a BAM screen right back to bam.

Speaker 7 (01:55:39):
Threw it down with two hands and one how bam.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
Spell making sure no fouls. Jimmy reaches but no foul
called Murray to Tiet It's out.

Speaker 7 (01:55:51):
Heat went Game two of the twenty twenty three NBA
Finals belongs to.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
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thank the crew today, Real quick show just falling by
Ramos our technical director of course Brandon our producer to
Sega with the updates. We'll be back tomorrow, Torres. Of
course we're back tomorrow for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon
a seven p to eleven piece.

Speaker 4 (01:56:40):
So make sure you tune on in.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
All right, So let's get this some picks, give us
a little music, put us in the mood. Game three
of the NBA on Wednesday, Torres, I still think it's
gonna be the Nuggets taking this when I'm not jumping
off the bandwagon.

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
Who do you see winning Game three?

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
I think the one thing with the heat in these
playoffs they win on the road. They went at home,
but they dropped games at home too, obviously Game six.
I was on Air four on Saturday Night a few
weeks ago. So I'm gonna pick Denver to bounce back
and to win Game three of this series. Denver is
a two and a half point favorite in the game.
By the way, on the road in Miami over under

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two sixteen and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
Kind of like the over in that one, right, we
would think the over. I think there'd be more scoring,
never minders two and a half. I'm I'm not surprised
that Denver's the favorite in this one. Also, no even
though again it is in Miami. I'm not surprised either.
I would probably lean over in that one as well.

Speaker 4 (01:57:38):
What are you doing in the Stanley Cup Vegas and Florida?

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
You're watching that one? Vegas up one game to nothing
in that one. Are they just gonna go ahead run
through this one?

Speaker 4 (01:57:45):
Or what you know?

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
Let me tell you. In all my years watching hockey,
this is definitely one of them. And I was on
air last night and Vegas took Game one. Obviously, the
Game two will also be in Vegas. Can't bet against
the Golden Knights in Vegas, right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
Vegas is a favorite in Game two. I believe minus
one forty.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
I believe in that one too.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
By the way, I don't know if we're getting to
our softball picks. I've been crunching some numbers on Oklahoma softball.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
Wow. All right, so we'll get to that in a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
Do you have any guess about Job Morant and how
many games he's going to be suspended?

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
The whispers that came out today is that it's going
to be half of a season. Jason Martin and I
have talked about it for several weeks. Now, you know, listen,
I don't even think it's a punishment. I think part
of it is job Morant maybe needs to step away
from basketball and reevaluate a lot of things. And when
I say that, I don't mean go to therapy for
two days. I mean actually reevaluate things. So if it

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is a half a season, I would have no fundamental
issue with that, Arnie, what about you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
That see I wouldn't be surprised if it's half a season.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
But that's too much if you ask me now, I
know the commissioner said there's other stuff they've they've uncovered,
so obviously I'm gonna have to see what that other
stuff is.

Speaker 4 (01:59:02):
But just based off what we saw the.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
Video, I don't think that Warren say half year to
be gone, So I'll be curious to see what else
they found out there.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
What do you want to say about the softball I
looked it up.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
They're off back to back national championships, obviously playing for
the finals. They are one hundred and seventy three and
eight in the last three seasons. Wow, one hundred and
seventy three and eight.

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
What is that? And now they'll play They'll play Stanford, right?
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Who?

Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
They got coming up tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
It doesn't really matter. Let's be honest. Plevnator squad scrimmage,
more and more entertaining.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
Doesn't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
Tom Brady over under a half game. He said he's
not coming back. He Warren does, he's not coming back.
I still don't believe.

Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
Him ever, or this cup coming. This is well this season.
Let's say, I'm gonna go under. I think he's retired.
I think he's retired forever, but I certainly think this
year he's gonna do the family thing, sit out. Maybe
something crazy happens. But I'm a say under, but it
sounds like you're going over.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Uh, I am going over. I think he is coming back.
I'm not buying into it. I know he came out
quick and said he wasn't, but I want him to
come back.

Speaker 4 (02:00:11):
I miss him. He was trash him.

Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
I worked with you, you picked against the Patriots seventeen
weeks in a row one year.

Speaker 4 (02:00:18):
But he's not a Patriot anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
I don't have to worry about that anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
I guess, so you want him back? What if he
came back with the Patriots?

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
No, then I would hate him all over okay, just
making sure. Yeah, I would, uh, it would just bet you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:31):
Also, we learned tonight hate the city of Miami even
though the Dolphins are your favorite team.

Speaker 4 (02:00:35):
That was interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
They just don't They don't do it for me. I'm
a Dolphin fan, though I love the Dolphin fans. My
fellow nobody uh has any connection to minor league hockey
for me on Twitter?

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
So one guy did, but you weren't nice enough to him.
You bullied him.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
So I don't know what that hell he's talking about.
I don't remember he said.

Speaker 4 (02:00:52):
You didn't respond to his tweet. You're a jerk.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
All right, We're back tomorrow. Like I said, for the guy,
you're ready to work tomorrow, big time.

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
Or what ready to carry you get Arnie.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Wow. Thanks to the crew. Coming up next, big Ben Mallor.
I'm sure he's got plenty to say on Game two
that's coming up next right here on Fox Sports Radio