Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam react to Game 1 of the NBA Finals and much more!

Mark Willard and Ephraim Salaam react to Game 1 of the NBA Finals between the Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat, discuss Shohei Ohtani’s looming free agency and ability to be marketed across MLB and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio. Well, let the coronation begin,
or so we think.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here we go Game two, Let's find out if this
is exactly what we think it is going to be.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's it from Salama Mark Willard.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
My man, how are we doing? I mean, I'm doing great.
I'm doing great, I really am. What now why are
you doing thing?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Now?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I know you don't need a reason, but you say
that as if there's a special reason.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, Mark, as you know, I'm a coach. I take
an active role in my in my my my son's
athletic lives for as long as I can until they,
you know, go on to bigger and better coaches. And
so occasionally, if you're a fan of the show and

(01:13):
you listen, you know that we're in baseball right now,
Baseball playoffs and Little League Sherman Oaks Little League and
you know, a couple about nine days ago, I was
on you know, I was telling you about a miraculous
win we had. We were down ten oh and the

(01:34):
third it came back and scored twenty two unanswered when
won that game and then went to the semi finals.
We won that game and we played the champions.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I feel kind of like Stone Phillips on the dateline
back in the day right now, So returning to our story,
that's right, that's what that's what was happening when we
last left, yes, and so what's the update.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well, we had the championship game yesterday, yesterday morning nine
Sherman Oaks Little League Triple A Championship and uh, we're
the Nationals and the Nationals pulled off the pulled off
the wind. We uh we beat the White Sox and

(02:16):
we won fourteen to three.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
And you didn't even no, no, no, we no. Yeah.
So tiers were there, tiers in the other It was
my tears over there.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was Yeah, at that age, there's tears when you
do something good, no matter what it's it's just tiers everywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
And coach, come on, I hope you I hope you
did what a good third base coach should do, and
and and turn around right there in front of that
that other dug out and with the little eight year
olds crying, I hope you.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Pointed at him and said, yeah, take that look and
see now that that's see see that right there? Uh no,
And I'm a first base coach, all right, I'm a
first base coach. I set the timo and it was
just it was amazing, man. So shout out to the
Nationals coach kuh for a heck of a season. We

(03:10):
got a championship, the kids got big rings. It was
unbelievable as that. It's unbelievable, man. And they had good
for you. So that's why I'm doing great. Because my
son woke me up this morning at seven am. His
name is Elijah, and he said, hey, I said, what
what are you doing in here? He was like, good morning, Dad.

(03:32):
I said, good morning. He said, you know what they
call me, I said, in trouble if you don't get
out of our room. He said, they called me championship E.
I said. I said, all right, man, I said all right,
so shout out the championship e. Man.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
You know he's on one championship. E man.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I love the stuff that comes out of their mouths
and goes into their minds and all the way around.
I had a kid. I had a kid get a
U a triple. Last week he got a triple, and
I was the third base coach. I pointed right there
at the base. I said, right there, right there, young man,
you're good. Right there, he got a triple. And he

(04:14):
slid and he stood up, and he pumped his fist
and he turned.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
His name is Patrick, and and he turned to the
picture and he pointed with both fingers and he said,
you just got Patrick.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Oh my god, I love it.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I said, now you, I said, young man, these are
the brakes, and I need you to tap him. I
need you to tap him right now. I've got brakes
right here. You go, tap the brakes. Let's calm down.
But then, of course, as any coach does, you turn around,
look the other way and start chuckling.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
To you, you gotta last. It's hysterical.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's their personalities are being developed right now.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Championship. E Oh, yeah, that's what I'm living.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I might have to use I mean, I might just
borrow the nickname and give it to you. Here at
least for the next three hours. My goodness. Speaking of
a championship, we've all given it to the Denver Nuggets already, right, Like,
this is just going to be a big old snooze
and a big old yalld, we'll see, we've blown off
the Miami heat before. But I tell you what, this

(05:14):
is one thing I was thinking about with these Nuggets,
and I think this is the nature of sports.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
You always hear people say, oh.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's a copycat league, And what I think that also
often means is whoever wins, we all have to be
obsessed with how to beat that specific team. I have
a good buddy who I was over to this house
a week and a half ago and one of his
sons had done something very very different with his hair.

(05:41):
He'd asked for a different style and a different haircut
and the whole Hey, take a look at that. What's
going on there? Well, come to find out is because
what he was wearing before he went to school and
one other.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Kid made fun of the hair. That's it.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
And that's all it takes. We got to go straight
to the barbershop and change the hair. And I'm like,
why are we obsessed with that? One kid who said
that one thing, and I want to say that right
now about the Denver Nuggets, because sure they're young, they've
got continuity. They've got the guy who's either the MVP

(06:18):
was supposed to be or what have you, whatever you
want to call him. He's he's incredibly hard to stop.
But uh, the world to me in the NBA right
now sounds like, well, that's the end of that. I
guess the Nuggets are gonna win the next three years
unless somebody can do something or somebody gets hurt.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And I'm like, why why do we do this every year?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Why can't we remember the journey that that is every
single year and how hard it is to repeat and
how things change every year. Like you know, you're you're
the fan of a basketball team. That's that was that
was the last team the Nuggets went through, and they've
got all kinds of space. Are you thinking they've got

(07:02):
to specifically build a team to beat Denver Nuggets or
do you want to you just want to put together
good basket.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
You put the best team out there. Man, We're not
worried about that. You know, Denver Nuggets a good team.
They had our number as well as everybody's number in
the Western Conference being the number one seed. But we're
not about to build this thing around to stop Jokis.
We're gonna put a great team together. I believe this
offseason it's a lot of attractive free agents that I

(07:32):
think they could lynn take some of the pressure off
A d and Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
So we're gonna go from there.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, And I think that that's true for a lot
of basketball teams, particularly if you're going to be looking
at that Western Conference. You could convince me based on
the way things are going. You could convince me next
year of the Denver Nuggets. You could convince me of
your Lakers. You don't need to convince me of my Warriors.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Exactly which sway things are gonna go for the Clippers
and Sons veteran injured teams, but could it go a
certain way. Don't forget those baby Sacramento Kings. I find
them intriguing. What if Zion plays? What are the Pelicans
gonna do? But the one team I'm leaving out is
actually the reason I'm saying things the way I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Look at those Memphis Grizzlies.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
How you feeling about next year from with the the
Memphis Grizzlies. Every year, so much unfolds. Yes, it is
so much unfolds. And this Western Conference there's no one
dominant and to me, this whole group, I mean it's
a little bit of a feather blown around in the wind,
and there's there there are probably six or seven ways

(08:52):
that this conference can turn when we get to this
time next year.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, it's it's we're not done with this year's so
projecting the Denver Nuggets or anybody else will be back
in this situation a year from today, that's ridiculous. We'll
see how this finals plays out. But like you said,
there's so much room and so many things teams can
do to be better or worse next year coming up,

(09:18):
and not not just for the Western Conference, before Eastern
Conference too. It's a lot of decisions and questions and
some coaching coaching availability that's that's still.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
There, you know.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
So it's a lot that needs to happen before we
pencil in who's going to be representing either conference.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Uh in these finals, Yeah, no doubt about it. I
mean Nikola Jokis is a problem.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
He is a problem. We're not taking anything away from that.
He is by far, in my opinion, not by far.
But I will say, here's a clear cut, clear cut
cut best player in the NBA. And I know a
lot of people say, well, he doesn't play on the
d defensive side. He does enough on the defensive side

(10:02):
of the ball. He is not void of playing defense,
asked Anthony Davis. Right, he is not void of playing defense.
What he does offensively, his basketball IQ is through the roof.
I will put him in the top three in the
entire NBA in terms of basketball IQ and how he
can control the game from the mid to high post.
Not very many people can do that. I don't think

(10:25):
anyone else can in the NBA at the level he plays.
So for that, he gets my vote in terms of
being the best player in the league this year.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, well I agree with you, and listen, I'm not
here to say that. You know, it would be boring
if our opinion every time was well, let's just wait
and see, and so not going to do that. But
the bottom line is is I do think we get
to the end of seasons and this is all sports,
and we overreact all, oh yeah to what we just

(10:57):
saw now right now, like sometimes you've got a generational player.
Mahomes is kind of doing that for the Chiefs right now.
You've got a player that changes the league and and
and that's fine. We've seen that Lebron has done that
at times, and and Mahomes is doing that, and Brady
did that, and maybe Steph did that. Like there's that,
there's that list. I understand that. But outside of that,

(11:19):
I mean, you you experienced this. You guys were largely
a young team when you went to the Super Bowl.
When you got there, were you sitting there thinking, well,
I mean, so we'll just we'll come back three or
four times over the next seven years, and that's how
this is gonna go.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Was that your mindset at that time?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I really thought we would go to the Super Bowl
about every year, every year, every year every year, I thought.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Which you know now, but I bet you can tell
me stories right now as to why it never happened.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Agains.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yes, it's that.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, straight up, the bet are best player that
we had from ninety eight blew his knee out I
think the third or fourth game in ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
That well that was that. There we go.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
We didn't have another running back unning back, so our
whole offensive game plan went right out. The one new
Chris Chandler got hurt. It just was a disaster. Disaster,
and that's just injury.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And there's so many other things, and we've talked about
so many of them, and we should talk about another
one of them coming up next because the commissioner spoke,
but a translation is needed. We'll explain and translate coming
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You are in these heere tire rag dot com studios.
Mark Whaillard e from salam he said it e from
these are the specific words from NBA Commissioner Adam Silver.
They have uncovered additional information quote additional information on Jahn Moran,

(14:03):
and they've made a decision on the investigation. And that
decision is Oh, it's kind of like in middle school
when there's a girl who has a crush on you. Yep,
I know somebody who's got a crush on you.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well, who is it?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well, no, I'm not telling. I'm not telling. That would
be a secret. And I always thought to myself, well, well,
how the hell does that help anybody? So the NBA
does it the exact same way. Yep, We've got more
info and we made a decision, but we're not telling

(14:40):
you because, at least to me, from the decision is
going to land with such a loud thump that they
cannot do it during the NBA Finals and take away
from the two teams in the midst of performing. I
am bracing myself for Jahn Morant to miss next reason.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Uh yes, I think, And kudos to the commissioner and
then in the NBA doing their due diligence.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
This allows.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
When he said additional information, but the listen to this.
The information we have that the public has is enough.
Right these incidences that we've been privy to that he's
been involved in. I mean, it's a lot. If there

(15:33):
is more or other infractions or other complaints that we
haven't even been or had access to. The hammer is
coming m h. And it's heavy, and it's loud, and

(15:54):
it's going to reverberate and it's going to send a
heck of a message.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Uh. Before we speculate any further on that, can you
help me with this. I'm trying to figure out just
in watching.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Sports the way we do big time celebrities in front
of a podium all the time, they know exactly what
their words are going to do and how they're going
to be translated.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I'm trying to figure out for the life.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Of me, why Adam Silver didn't answer that question in
that moment by simply saying, the investigation is still ongoing
and we're just not ready to tell you anything yet.
I think because this almost works like a big.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Tease, and.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Which is fine, but it's like, you know, we don't
want to take away from the two teams that are
playing in the NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
But it was sort of like Adam going, but we've
got something really big to tell you.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I'm not going to tell you yet, but because it's
too big, and that in and of itself, I mean,
here we are, here, we are are in the first
hour of our show. We're talking about this and and
not the game that that just started.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I think he's doing it because, first of all, I
applaud him for doing it that way, and I think
he had to say something because the information has been
given out. I'm sure the Marint camp knows. I'm sure
the NFL, the NBA, NFL Players Association they know. So
just to you know, stave off any leaked information or

(17:31):
something like that, him not being forthright and saying that
they've you know, come to a conclusion would come back
to buy them. So I believe for him in the
PR department, this was the safest way to go about it.
I'm sure they've informed the Morint camp that whatever this
penalty is going to be. So since that information was disseminated,

(17:52):
it was, it was released and it's out there. Then
I think he had to just be like, hey, look,
we got it. It's it's we're doing what we're doing.
Let's focus on these finals and then we're gonna cue
everybody in when it's time.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I mean, again, I have no issue with it, but
I was just curious as to why he would do
it that way, because again, it does it's almost like saying, look,
we don't we don't want to do anything large and
take away from the NBA Finals. So then just stop there.

(18:26):
But he sort of goes on to say, but boy,
this is really large. So that was interesting to me.
It was interesting to me.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
But back to your original.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Point, we we know what we think we know about
Jahn Moran.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
When when this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Left, when the Grizzlies left, when the Lakers took him out,
we essentially had the there was one gun waved on
ig Live.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
There was potentially another one.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
We think there was a gun on social media, but
we hadn't for sure figured out if that was a
real gun. And then we had the other stuff that
all felt sort of mysterious and under the radar.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Potentially assaulted a minor.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
At a basketball court, there was something with a mall
police officer. And then there was the incident where there
was a laser target coming out of a car being
pointed at members of.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
A team they had just played.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
So these are the five things we had, but at
minimum four of them were like, I don't really know
what happened, and I'm sure somebody investigated, but nobody was
really able to come up with anything substantial or else
somebody would have arrested or disciplined somebody which never happened.
So it just sort of felt like there was this

(19:56):
building of stuff, but you didn't have anything firm. If
Adam Silver is now going to stay out loud, we
have uncovered additional information making me think that there's something
beyond those five, and maybe they've also firmed up those five,
then look he's gonna miss the whole year, and get

(20:21):
ready for a line of people. You know, they can
everybody line up behind JJ Reddick to yell that John
didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
He'd never been arrested. It's not illegal.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
And then we have to have the conversation about how
in the corporate world it doesn't have to be illegal
for you to get sent home for as long as
they want to send you home. This guy's about to
make two hundred million dollars and they will not let
one of the future faces of the league do this stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Period.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
And that's the end. It's not going to happen. You
work for somebody, you bide by their bylaws and their rules.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
He didn't do anything illegal, Yeah, but he did something stupid.
And sometimes being stupid is a fireball offense. Right, if
we see it all the time on social media. Right,
you're at a store, people arguing, say black women's arguing

(21:21):
with a white woman or whatever. White woman hollers out,
calls her the end word. That's not illegal. It's not illegal.
It's all over social media. Next thing, you know, we
know this woman, she's a nurse at the local hospital.
This and that, what do you think happens?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Bye bye?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Right, it's not illegal. Did was arguing they were fighting
over corn pops. It's not illegal, but it's stupid and
it's ignorant and it's a firebull offense. If the person
you work for, the company you work for a deem.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It's so.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
This is a global brand, one of the biggest in
the world. If they don't want the face of the
league to be about violence and guns, they can do
whatever they want to do. I'm not in the business.

(22:22):
He's twenty three years old. He's a young kid. Yeah,
we get it, man, we get it, we get it.
He was twenty three when they suspended them for eight
games to send them to some music retreat or whatever
that was in Florida for the two weeks. Right, but
he's twenty three. He came back and he did something stupid.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Again.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
It was twenty three when he went up to the
mall to fight the foot action.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
He was twenty three when he went to the girls
volleyball game and wanted to fight the girls in the stands.
Who's also twenty three when he beat up a seventeen
year old kid at the house and then a poor
a weapon. So for those who are saying he's twenty three,
he's a kid. He makes mistakes. Do you know what
happened to a twenty three? Do you know what happens

(23:10):
to twenty three year old black men in this country
who continue to make dangerous mistakes. My father, my father
worked twenty seven years in the correctional facility, twenty seven
years and some of the hardest prisons on the planet Earth.

(23:31):
He would come home every day when he came home
and tell and tell me these stories of these young
twenty three twenty two year old men, young men who
were making similar mistakes, all right. Are the flip side
of that is they got a whole cemetery full of

(23:54):
that exact same thing. So I don't want to hear
from JJ Reddick or anybody else talking about but he's
twenty three. He can make mistakes, but some of the
mistakes he's making can be life altering, not only for
him the people he's around. Look at the social climate

(24:17):
we're in right now in this country, and you riding
around with guns in a car, a moving car. I
don't care if it's licensed or not. That has not
stopped innocent people from being shot and killed in cars
when they have stated that they have a licensed firearm

(24:38):
in the car. It's bigger than just this small thing,
this kid in the NBA. Look at what society is
doing and where we are right now. Then come talk
to me in five years when we're talking about man,
Remember when man, how's a tragedy? That's what I come on.

(25:01):
And I said it before, I said it last week.
I know we got to get to Steve. I said it.
I said, I the onlyess I hope the NBA helps
save this young man's life. Yep, they don't have to,
they don't have to.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
No, he has to right eventually, Yeah, eventually he has to.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, there's much more to say on this.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
But when you speak of making mistakes, there's one that
we will not make, and that is keeping Steve de Sega.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Away from the world. Give him as time. We won't
do that. We're not going to do that. So Steve, Hi.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
Steve, Hello, gentlemen, And the first quarter of NBA Finals
Game two at Denver and the Nuggets remember undefeated at
home in these playoffs nine and oh they're trailing twenty
six twenty three after the first quarter against the Miami Heat. Tonight,
Nuggets took the opener of the best of seven. Game
three will be in Miami on Wednesday. Now, it was
fifty percent shooting for Denver for most of this period,

(25:57):
but they fell behind ten to two and down by
three points after this opening quarter eleven points for Nikola Jokich,
who played all twelve minutes. All twelve minutes played by
Miami's Jimmy Butler, but he was one of five shooting.
The Hero, not Tyler Hero. He's still out. Max Struce
is still a starter therefore, and from three point range
he was four of seven in the first quarter, twelve

(26:19):
points in the first twelve minutes, the same Max Struce
who was oh of ten shooting in the opener of
the finals. Tyler Hero, by the way, is still out,
maybe back for Game three when they get back home,
but he's trying to come back from surgery in April
on a broken hand. He was hurt in the first
half of the first game of the first round this postseason,
so we haven't seen him for a while. And Hero,

(26:40):
a starter this past season, averaged twenty points per game.
It's sounding very much like he'll be back at some
point in this best of seven Stanley Cup. Game two
is Monday night at the French Open. Number one Carlos
Alcarez advanced to the quarterfinals. Victor Hovlin won the Memorial
in a playoff. One other golf note in a minute,
that's a great one. Vascar is still going on FS one.

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The race was stopped by bad weather in Illinois for
an hour forty five. They had another stoppage due to
a wreck with about forty laps left. Now it's about
thirty laps to go. They're briefly in a caution with
Kyle Busch in the lead, Kyle Larson second, Denny Hamlin
running third. The Sunday night ball game is already bottom
of the sixth inning. Yankees at Dodgers scoreless, just three

(27:24):
total hits in the game. The Dodgers, going with recent
first round selection Bobby Miller, he's only had two major
league starts, is two to zero. His era now down
to one point six with the six scoreless innings and
seven strikeouts. Tonight, Cubs won seven to one at San Diego, Texas.
That offense is dominating this year. Twelve three. Today's final

(27:46):
over Seattle. Nathan Valdi the winning pitcher, is eight and two.
Atlanta surprised Arizona eight to five, and Baltimore got a
win of eight three at San Francisco. And now one
of these stories that'll go under the radar perhaps, But
there's a golfer from Stanford named Rojang who just declared
that she was going pro. She just won a second

(28:07):
straight individual NCAA title, just turned twenty years old. She
enters her first ever LPGA event and in New Jersey today.
She just won it in a playoff. She won in
her pro debut. That is a first on the LPGA
tour since nineteen fifty one. This is a woman who
was named the world's top amateur golfer in each of

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the last three years. She had already said as a
rookie she plans to play all four majors this year.
I'll say in college. This season at Stanford she won
eight times in ten starts. She broke Tiger Woods Stanford
record in the programs. By the way, she was the
top ranked amatur in the world for a record one
hundred and forty one consecutive weeks. What a start. Winning

(28:51):
her LPGA debut.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, what was that purse?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
What did she like?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (28:56):
I got to look that up. She's not an amateur anymore.
You're right, yeah, right, right, that's right. Oh, and then
this just handed to me. Rose Jang has decided to
join Live golf. I'm sorry LPGA.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
That hey, and that's what I asked the question for.
That is exactly what I asked the question for.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
She she won, the LPGA gave her four hundred and
thirteen dollars and she is now going to go to
live golf five hundred million dollars reported later.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
But it this way. The men's tournament, the men's winner
today got three point six million. The total purse wasn't
three point six million for the winners?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, i'd be you know what,
I have no idea how to even put a guess
on what that number.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I would love to know that four and fifty that's
what it is.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
The four fifty dollars, hey, four fifty thousand correct? Okay,
all right?

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Yeah, Michelle wis that this tournament? This isn't enoughing here?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah? No, that's exciting. That is exciting.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Turnpro bang she wins already, Yes, pay her, pay that money.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Her money. There you go.

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Speaker 1 (30:34):
You know what is interesting here.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
As well with this Ja Morant thing, I mean, it's
sort of what I was getting at with regard to
the Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'm not trying to say something is going to go
sideways with a member of the Denver Nuggets next year.
But you know, the Grizzlies have been on the verge
for a few years, and now as we sit here today,
not only does it feel like they're further away than
they ever have been at any point over the last
three or four years, it really feels like they're never
going to get there and they're gonna have to end

(31:05):
up rebooting. It's why I always stress the power of
now for sports teams who are in a window. I mean,
think about trust the process. For example, with the Philadelphia Sixers,
I mean, their process has had its very very good aspects,
but that process at a certain point also meant betting

(31:29):
a big portion of the future on Ben Simmons, and
I still to this day don't really know what's going
on with him. I still don't know, man, exactly what's
going on with Ben. But this idea of well, it's
going to be this a year from now, it's going
to be this two years from now. I've lived a
number of years, Ephraim, and one thing is true. Every

(31:53):
year it never looks like I think it's gonna look now.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
No, No, welcome to life, right right. We're out here
playing and projecting and you know, got or whatever higher
power you believe it is just laughing, all right. I
ever heard of peas the moment. The only thing we
can control is what's happening right at this moment, you know,

(32:20):
other than that man man man, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I don't know where that's going to go, but it
does not appear to be going in a good direction.
I'll tell you who he is, though. I want to
spend a moment to welcome our new affiliate in Peoria, Illinois.
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one to the Fox Sports Radio family. They are a
Chicago White Sox radio network affiliate. Program director Scott Heckathorne

(32:47):
dropped another network to make the flip to Fox, and
that's a big win for them at a big win
for us. We want to welcome them and thank them.
Welcome to the Fox Sports Radio family of Purias Sports
Radio one one point one. All right, it is Mark
Willard and Ephrom Salam coming up next. Man, this got

(33:09):
a whole lot of run this week, and it's something
of all the things fans should worry about.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't think this should be on the list.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
We'll tell you what we're talking about in a moment
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, this is the tiereg dot
com Studios and that is e from Salam. I'm Mark Willard.
All right, Many Williams goes to Detroit to the Pistons.
Big old bucket of money, big old bucket of money.
And all I can do is give you the example
I hear around here. I'm sure there are others. All

(33:37):
of a sudden, Oh wait a minute, this resets the
market for head coaches in the NBA. Steve Kerr is
up in a year. Should the Warriors pay Steve Kerr
fill in blank to keep him as the head coach
of the Warriors. I got a question, Ephrom, and I

(33:59):
wonder what it would look like. I've asked this before.
I sort of understand why in sports we get to
know what players make.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's part of the game.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
In the respect that there's a salary cap in some sports,
it helps us assess how a general manager, an organizational structure,
how they're doing.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I do think it leads to some bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Sometimes a player can be playing well and the public
thinks that he or she is not playing well because
they're actually playing well, they're just not playing well enough
to justify said salary. But I get it when there's
a cap and there's maneuvering going on.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Can you help me with this?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Why on earth would I give two rips what a
multi billion dollar company would pay its coach.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Why do I care about that?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
It's entertainment, Okay, it's entertainment, and and you know, people
are enthralled with what entertainers make. It's just public knowledge.
It goes out you say, you know, you get a
new contract or, and it's for public consumption.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
We know what CEOs make at studios, and like all
that information, all those secret sound we know Roger Goodell makes,
Like that's just part of of what we know. What
Adam Silver makes. These are public knowledge. You know, I mean,
I should it be you know, I don't, you know,
I get the curiosity. I'd love to know what you're

(35:42):
making for this show today.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I don't know. I have no idea what you're making
for this show today. Actually have a pretty good idea.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
But anyway, you know what, I ge't I get the curiosity.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I don't even know if that's my point.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
My point is is why would I ever criticize a
team for quote unquote overpaying a coach?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I don't. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
You pay Steve Kirk twenty five million a year for
all like, Yeh, done right exact, it.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Does not go to the cap.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
If you're the Golden State Warriors, you make a good
jillion dollars every time you turn the lights on. You
bought the team for four hundred and fifty million dollars
less than fifteen years ago. It's now worth like five
or six billion, and it's actually probably worth more than that. Like,
pay Steve Kurk fifty million a year. That's what you're paying, Steph.

(36:38):
I don't care paying fifty Like if I'm a fan,
all I care about is is the person who I
would like to see the coach?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Are they the coach? I did great? I don't care
whether what the salary I don't. I don't care. I
don't care.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
And it's funny also in sports like this where we
get sort of like we petcock a bit at certain numbers.
But then, as I said, Steph and Lebron and Jannis
and on and on, now they can make fifty million.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
And we don't even blink. No, we don't even blink.
And I and I get it. They're the best in
the world.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Okay, but where the moral outrage associated with this rock
and roll?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
If I'm a Warrior fan and I am, I want
Steve cour to be the coach.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I don't care what you pay him, pay him whatever
the heck he wants, whatever you want find by me,
just keep him as the coach.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I don't think justin I think Steve might be done.
But anyway, uh, I just I think we get in
a lot of fans I've found don't really realize that
coach's salaries don't count against the salary cap, because I've

(37:54):
heard people like, well, if you're going to pay a coach,
that then you got to pay And I'm like, those
are two different things. Those aren't the same things. But
all right, let's let's brush you up on a knowledge
here that's that's not the same thing. Don't be outraged
just for the sake of being outraged, and you get
a lot of that. It's it's public knowledge. Look, hey,
you can pay a coach anything you want. When they

(38:15):
gave Grooton a hundred million dollars the Raiders, everybody was
like the dumbest in the world.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Sure, sure well, And there ended up being emails two
seconds later, which you know, you end up with egg
on your face.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
But that's a great example. The Raiders have suffered in
what way because of that contract? Right?

Speaker 5 (38:36):
None?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
None, They're fine. They're just paying somebody who's not there.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, which, by the way, is happening probably to every franchise.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
I think the Lakers still paying two coaches who haven't
coached in my gosh.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, I'm surprised it's only two. Goodness.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, teams or teams are paying at all times.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
They are paying.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
In fact, there are times where they're paying players to
come beat them.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I remember having a conversation with Tom Goodwin, former Major
League player, at Dodger Stadium. He was playing for the Giants,
and he went out and had three hits and helped
them win a baseball game. And he joked in the
locker room, He's like, I don't know if my check's
gonna clear next month because his checks came from the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, and playing for a different team. It happens all
the time.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, it's it's part of the business. It's the business.
We don't talk about a glamorize a lot because it's
not part of the salary camp. And so you know,
NBA players have retired and still received Like I had
a couple guys who have been retired for like five
years and no still getting huge checks from franchises. Like

(39:49):
when we say that money is guaranteed, that money is guaranteed,
like it's coming.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Bobby Bernia Day is coming in July again, I think
I think it's in July right day. Yeah, he's still
getting checks from from the Mets. Did you say you
think that Steve Kurr has done Did.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
You slit that in somewhere in there you do?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I think I'd like to hear a little bit more
about what you have to say about that, And we
got we got to talk about his ex teammate as well,
speaking of going sideways, So we'll do that coming up next.
Mark Wei from Salam Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (40:34):
Well, you try to bring up a little bombshell like that,
you bring up the name Steve Kerr. I got follow
up questions, So we will do that here in a moment.
But more on the Denver Nuggets. As you heard what
Steve was just saying moments ago, Uh, they have taken
yet another sizeable lead. We're broadcasting live from the tyrach
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when people are talking about the NBA Finals are asking questions,
I'm like, you know what, As it turns out, I
guess the Denver Nuggets were hiding in plain sight the

(41:16):
whole time.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
They're just sitting over there, you know, in the one seed, like, yeah,
we're here. You can keep assuming that we're.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Not going to win a title because we've never even
been to the finals before.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
And sure, there's a long way to go in this series.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
But do you know off the top of your head,
I bet you can think back and come up with
the number. Do you know what their Nuggets record is
in the playoffs so far?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I believe they've lost two games so far. Did they
sweep base who play in the first round?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
They played the Minnesota Timbers. Yes, they won in five, right,
that is correct, gentlemen, sweep they three?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
They've lost three? Three games, that is correct. They've won thirteen, yep,
and they have lost three. They are thirteen and three
against the likes of the Timberwolves, Suns, Lakers, and Miami Heat.
And sure their bleed that they have right now is
not overwhelming by any stretch, up by seven, eight points

(42:29):
wherever it is right now, but.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
They've had a very.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Good second quarter after being a little bit slow out
of the gate. And they have also won seven basketball
games in a row.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Those two road.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Games where Devin Booker and Kevin Durant did their thing
in Phoenix and the Suns were able to even that
series at two and two. That was really it because
even the loss in Minnesota in Round one, gentlemen sweep
classic situation up three to zero, kind of did a
whole whatever sort of a vibe as they as they

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then played again Game four in Minnesota and and played
a close one anyway, only lost by six points. Their
two losses to the Suns by seven and five points.
I mean from I know they've won some close ones
as well, but like they're not that far away from
just having won all of.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
The games, okay, almost all of them. Do you know
the same that has the best, you know, playoff records?
I think it's fifteen to one.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I do, I do. I covered that team. Yes, I
do remember that. I remember that very well.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Who did this? That would be the Los Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Okay, yeah, gosh, all rows lead to the same house
we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
You. You made a statement that the Denver Nuggets are
hiding and playing side thirteen.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Sorry, right, and you said they've almost won all the games,
and that had me to tell you that there's a
team that's gone fifteen and one twice.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Do you know that, dude? Mane that Shaq and Kobe
Oh that.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Hey hey, I'm just asked the question, man, right, Okay,
and the other time they did it. It was not
in the Shack and Kobe era. Just to throw that
out there, you know, just to throw it out there.
I'm just saying, pretty sure that a bunch of Hall
of famers. Then hey man, look that's not my fun.
Everybody want to play for the Lakers. Hey Man, Draymond
been trying to get to the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Ktie Warriors. Do that once? Or do they lose twice?
They lost twice, They lost twice. Sure, sure they're not
okay us anyway.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Point being, point being is when we and we still do,
we still do.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
I'm not changing my opinion. I'm not here to tell
you that the Denver Nuggets are about to start a dynasty.
I don't. I don't look at stuff that way.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
But we spent all year saying this Western Conference is jumbled,
it's filled with parody. There are a bunch of ways
that could go, and it was that throughout the whole year,
but maybe not to the level that we thought. Like Denver,
the way they've played in the playoffs and the fact
that they were with relative ease the one seed, I

(45:27):
think that they would have the right right now to
raise their head and go actually there wasn't actually that
much parody, like we are clearly the best team.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, I mean all year they've been like that, though.
Why teams are trying to figure it out. The Lakers
had to rehaul, overhaul the you know, the roster to
be competitive. You had all kinds of things going on
in Memphis, all right, the experiment of two bigs in
a no big NBA. And in Minnesota it was so

(46:01):
many things, you know, going on, the movement of the
Suns and you know, being hurt not playing together. It
was so much going on, and the different nuggas just like, now,
we're just gonna keep on going, brother, we got everything
we need. We locked in, guys know their roles, their positions,
and we got the best player in the league. So no,

(46:23):
you guys go ahead try to figure this thing out.
We're just gonna keep on going. And we're seeing that
in front of our eyes on the big stage. Throughout
this whole playoff run, nobody has bothered them. They haven't
been afraid of anybody.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
No. I mean when they were evened up with the
Suns too too.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
I guess you could say that next game five back
in Denver was a very important game to sort of
re establish themselves as the team. They won that game
by sixteen points. They won at Phoenix two nights later
by twenty five, and that's it. In fact, uh, the
second the Son's even them up at to two.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
They haven't lost a basketball game since.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah. Yeah, it's they're on a mission, and that mission
is clear. They're playing extremely well. You don't have a
bunch of guys trying to figure out what their role is,
and they're led, you know, by someone who does everything.
That's a tough team to beat, and with the altitude

(47:28):
on their side, it's hard to go up Dre and play.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Brother. It is hard to go up there to play no.
I know, you know, I know, you know, you've mentioned
it a couple of times. Oh yeah, I know. One
thing that you don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Though, I'd like to thank producer Brandon for for confirming
what I thought to be true, which is that Brandon.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Wait, first of all, we.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Okay, hang on, I actually do want to apologize.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
You're right from the Lakers are the only team to
have gone fifteen in one, but the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Went sixteen sixteen and one.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Well, you know, twenty seventeen, twenty twenty seventeen, Warriors sixteen
and one.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
All right, man, okay, okay, there you.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
So you think their head coach is leaving?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Do you do?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
You might be right? Really do. Now. I'll share this
real quick before I hear why.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Because the show that I do ninety five seven the
game Monday through Friday, Willard and Dibbs two to six
in the afternoon. Steve's weekly spot is with us and
in the final week of the playoffs, with all the
Bob Meyers rumors out there, and Steve and Bob are

(48:54):
very very tight, very good friends. Steve earlier in the
year said it would be devastating if Bob left, and
Bob has now Steve, for whatever it's worth, stated to
us has absolutely no designs on doing anything differently and
would like to continue to be the Warriors head coach,

(49:15):
not their general manager or anything else. He'd like to
be the Warriors head coach for years to come. He
did state that, Oh, but tell me why you're thinking.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
What you're thinking, Well, when you look at what's happening
right now with the Golden State Warriors, and I know
it's easy for me to say, you know, the house
is on fire, but the money is what the money is.
The Golden State Warriors have had a tremendous run four
championships and what seven years. What's happening is Bob stepping away.

(49:53):
We know that this team as it's currently constructed, in
the money that's allocated to people in the contract that is,
that's a nightmare. That's happening. We're in. We're they're living
in the nightment. Of course, there's ways to get around
and all of that, but that half a billion dollar
luxury tax. Hey man, look here, when you're winning championships, yes,

(50:18):
but there are some holes, there's some problems. Guys are
much older. Okay, Draymone is not the dray Minded he was.
Klay Thompson is definitely not to Clay he he was,
and and he just needs an off season. No, no, no, no.
The things that have happened to him with his leg,
and these are leg injuries. These are things that you
can't avoid, right, You don't come back, especially as you

(50:41):
age as the player you were prior to the injury. Yeah,
he can shoot, still shoot. But what made Clay special
was his ability to play on both ends of the cause.
He was becoming a very good winging defender, that's gone
because he doesn't have the foot quickness anymore. So there's
a hole there in your defense. Draymond is older, there's
a hole there. Yeah, he can do it in spurts,

(51:02):
but can he do it the whole season? And then
you look at the Jordan Poole situation, the Kominga situation,
These young players that they want and need to step forward,
They needed that. This year didn't happen. Probably a little
bit of a setback. Steph is gonna be making fifty
nine sixty million dollars the next couple of years.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
What are you going?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
What will the team look like? Yeah, it's easy to
sit up there and be like, yeah, we want Draymond back,
we want everybody to come back. But do the numbers,
do the does the sound? Does that make sense? Absolutely not?
And I believe Bob knew that, and I believe Steve
knows that. Does Steve want to go through a rebuild

(51:51):
even though Steph is there? Do you see Steve Kerr
going through a rebecause that that year that Steph got
hurt that it was what was that two years ago.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Where everybody was hurt? Yes?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Right, and Steph hurt his hand and then it was
just like, wh right, that that was dreadful. I don't
see Steve sign it up for five years of that. No,
I think he's done enough as a player as a
coach of course, right Like so you start you start

(52:26):
thinking like, okay, well does it does it really make sense?
Are you ready to go on this ride?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I mean it's so fascinating because in the uh, in
the Syonira press conference for Bob Myers, their owner Joe
Lacup stated that even with the change in the CBA rules, UH,
he kind of pounded his hand on the table a
little bit and was like, we're gonna win. We're gonna win,
because that's what good organizations do. They figure it out.

(52:55):
I don't care what the rules are. We're gonna win.
And I know fans eat that up like a bowl
of al at midnight, like, oh, we're gonna win. It's like, okay,
how how generational players don't grow on trees? It's really
hard to get good draft picks when you're pretty good

(53:19):
every year. And I don't see the free agent right
now that is is tracking toward even being affordable or desiring,
Like it's whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
There's a ton of weeds in the way. So I
get what you're saying there.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I don't think they think that they're as done as
the rest of the world thinks with regard to their
current core.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I will say that, I.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Know Steve doesn't think so, but you're right, he's not
gonna want to rebuild. He he does not like playing
young players, to the point where the criticism he received
this year is all about that. You know round here, Oh,
Kaminga comingo. Why didn't you play Kamingo? Why didn't you
develop developed development? You gave Wiseman away, like, yeah, he's

(54:06):
not into it, and and and championship coaches usually aren't
because twenty year olds don't win titles.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Do they do?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
People realize that he didn't develop Steph Clurk occurring and
Clay and although Mark Jackson did. Mark Jackson developed those
guys they bought in and started playing it. And it's
that's real, right. You can feel how a lot of
people feel the way they feel. But what did they win?
Fifty six games? Uh? Mark Jackson's last year?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah you could. I mean there's a little bit of
a hybrid comment there. You're not You're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
However, those players then became something completely different when Steve
Kerr took o.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean they want a championship that
next year.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I'm gonna I'm gonna give the development nod uh. I'm
gonna split that into a pie and give give both
gentlemen a piece.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Okay, because remember Steph Curry was on the verge of being,
you know, injury prone and not right.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Remember the angle, the four year, forty four million dollar
contract that the injuries led to, which is what opened
the door for them to bring in Igwadala and and
then eventually Durant of course. Of course, Yeah, so that's
that's how it was headed.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Well, I don't I just don't see Steve, like, like
you said, developing those young those young players are going
to have to be a huge part of what they're
they're doing going forward, a huge part. And I don't
know if he's signing up for that, bro, I really
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
So it's can be.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
So interesting because they're just acting like nothing changes. We're
gonna keep winning.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
We love these three players and we're gonna keep on winning.
And everyone's like.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
How because we are, like, it's just discovererness. Okay, So right,
but maybe you know, I mean billionaires. That is kind
of the way they live. It's yes, you're not saying
no to me. We're winning, damn it. And then you're like, Okay,
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Speaker 1 (56:23):
Slash match.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
All right, what about one of Steve Kerr's old teammates.
It's time for us to have what I think. I
can't wait for this discussion because it was a quick
viral video and then everyone moved on.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I'm not ready to move on.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
We got to do a little psychoanalysis on a few
different people based on this, and we'll do that next
with Eve from Salam.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Mark Willard Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
All right, we are in the Tireag dot com studios.
That is he from Salam. I'm Mark Willard. It's kind
of like what you did last week. Man, there's certain
music where I'm just like, man, we're not talking over this,
talking over Stevie.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Let it burn. Oh, my goodness, oh, my goodness, let
it breathe, which which is.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
What Scotty Pippen's trying to do. What's going on here?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Man? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
It's way too easy in my eyes to just be like, man,
Scotty's crazy, Like that's right, like your barbershop, man, Scotty's crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Okay, So if you've been living under a rock.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Scottie Pippen had a series of comments over the last week.
Michael Jordan's a terrible basketball player was one of them,
sort of insinuated that he that he made Michael. You
know what did Michael achieve before he got there? Obviously
the two don't like one another. I don't know many

(58:00):
who do like Michael. Chuck and Michael don't get along anymore.
Had a falling out. Who likes Michael?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Right? We want to be like Mike, but you don't
want to just like Mike.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
The fans you know what's that? The fans they like
a shoe.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Because because they don't know them. Yeah, it seems I
don't know him either.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
But I don't know what's your When you see Scotty
come out this, what's what's your read?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I just feel like hurt people hurt people, you know,
And Scotty's coming from a place of pain. Number one,
he doesn't think his basketball abilities and his career has
been validated because it's always attached to someone else. So

(58:50):
it's it's just getting along, just getting over that in
a professional uh sense. Is it's been difficult because you
got to hear it all the time. Then now, of
course the last dance drops and it paints you in
a particular hue that you may have not seen yourself
in and that opens up a wound, and then your
ex wife is now dating the son of the person

(59:15):
that that's opened that wound. Like, hello, we are human beings.
We do have emotions, and it's a lash out like
hurt people really hurt people. That that's how you know,
you've we've been taught to fight what they hurt me.

(59:39):
We got to hurt them back, you know. And and
I think it's coming from a place of that. I
think it's coming from a place of of of you know,
Michael was great, but you don't know them, Michael, I know, wow,
or maybe we do, well, we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I mean, how many how many how many people have
you ever heard when when people are speaking publicly about
Michael Jordan. How many of them say good things about
anything other than basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Kobe spoke highly of Mike. Yeah, and they had a
different relationship. I think that relationship Mike saw himself in Kobe,
and so he was receptive come he was receptive off
the court to Kobe because he saw so much of
himself there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
And I would argue that Kobe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I would argue that Kobe, and this is always maybe
look what impressed me most about the guy and this
is one of the greatest basketball players ever. But the
way that Kobe changed the way people talked about him
in the final six or seven years of his life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
It was stunning, stunning.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I mean, this is the man who'd done made Dwight
Howard cry in the locker room. But by the time
he was retired, by the time he had become a
girl dad, by the time he was doing things in
the entertainment industry, and by the time it came to
his all too soon funeral, right, even Shack was up

(01:01:23):
there as one of the most tenderhearted people speaking about
Kobe Bryant. And I do think that as Kobe got
toward the end of his career, and it was the
social media age. I do think he felt like, okay, right,
that stone cold killer mentality. You know, it served me well,

(01:01:46):
but it might now serve me to sort of turn
over a little bit of a new leaf, and he did.
I don't know if Michael's ever done that. By the way,
I'm not saying he needs to. He can do this
however he wants to do it. But I like it
strikes you the famous Hall of Fame speech where he

(01:02:07):
just seemed to go through a list of people so
that he can ha ha showed you. Now the next person,
ha ha showed you. It's like, gosh, is there is
there anything? What's the word accessible in there?

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
I think the chip never left and Kobe for Michael's shoulder,
and Kobe had an opportunity to let the chip go.
He had an opportunity to let the chip go. I
don't think there was much in Michael's life that he
loved just as much as basketball, So when he was

(01:02:49):
unable to continue to play basketball, that left a huge
hole there. You can sew all the shoe shoes and
sneakers you want, but if you can't do the thing
you love of at the level you love it, then
it's going to leave a hole there. If that hole
isn't fulfilled or answered or are are in some way field,

(01:03:18):
then you're gonna carry that with you. And and we
we were seeing that Kobe didn't do that. Kobe found
the love of pouring himself into into teaching basketball, his
daughter or his daughters, also filmmaking, right, he had other
passions that he put that same type of energy into.

(01:03:45):
I don't believe Mike has and and and it's it's
that's a lonely place to be. That's a lonely place
to be.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
That's what it looks like, you know. That's what it
looks like. I don't know, but that's what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
And it begs a question, and I think I know
how you'll answer it, but I'll ask it to you
after we answer all of the other questions involved in life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
And that's that's what Steve de Sager does, all of
them every hour. Yeah, all of them. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
I may not have tempted that for this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Yeah, we're gonna need answers. Well, no, not the one
question I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Asking from, but all the other ones, all the life questions,
all of them coming up next Tom Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
We are early third quarter in Game two of the
NBA Finals at Denver. The Nuggets lead is sixty four
to sixty two over Miami. Denver was down ten to
two early, got up by fifteen points in the second quarter.
Now it's close and good three point shooting by the
visitors is part of the reason why their guards are hitting.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
Overall.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
It's eleven of twenty from three point range for Miami
leading the way eighteen points from Gabe Vincent. He's seven
of nine shooting overall. Max Struce has made four to
three pointers. This is a guy who is oz of
ten from the floor. In the series opener, Struce has
fourteen points. The only score in double figures for the
Nuggets so far Nikola Jokic with eighteen points. Game three

(01:05:08):
of the series Wednesday at Miami. Denver already won Game one.
The Nuggets are undefeated at home in these playoffs at
nine and oh Stanley Cup. Game two is Monday night.
Kyle Busch has won the NASCAR race tonight on FS one.
Danny Hamlin finished second. That race in Illinois was stopped
by weather, stopped by a wreck. Five restarts late. They
eventually have finished it up Rojzang took the LPGA event

(01:05:31):
in her pro debut in New Jersey. Today she wanted
a playoff at Stanford. She had just won a second
straight individual NCAA title. Victor Hovlin took the Memorial in
a playoff at the French Open. Number one Carlos Alcarez
advance to the quarterfinals, as did Novak Djokovic, making his
record fourteenth straight quarterfinal. There. The Sunday night ballgames at

(01:05:52):
Dodger Stadium, and the Yankees have just up the lead
on a two run homer from young Anthony Volpi four
to one, top of the ninth Yankees leading at LA. Earlier,
the Cubs were seven to one winners at San Diego.
Texas won again twelve three over Seattle Atlanta with a
grand slam in the ninth one at Arizona eight five,
and Baltimore beat San Francisco eight to three. And yes,

(01:06:16):
the Oakland A's did lose again Miami seven, Oakland five.
The Oakland A's record, I hope you're seated twelve and
forty nine so far this season, but the attendance was
up to twelve thousand for an Oakland at Miami game today,
so there's that back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Thank you very much, Gosha.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Every time you bring this up, Steve, I just get
I get stuck on it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
The Oakland A's it's unbelievable. Name me and I know,
I listen.

Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
It's not just losing. They've been outscored by over two
hundred runs already this year, which I saw the top
ten list in baseball history. They're on it to be
outscored by that much this early in a season, and
all the other teams on the list are from the
eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
But it's also it's also sort of dwarfed by or
at least it's it's under the umbrella of what the
ownership has done, definitely setting them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Up for this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
And if you remove like actual crimes or social unfairness,
name me something that's been worse just in terms of
sports business than these Oakland A's.

Speaker 6 (01:07:33):
Owners, aside from Major League You mean, well, because that's
kind of what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Correct, correct, right? But that you know wasn't real. Yes,
I mean it was a lot of people go Art
Modell middle of the night. I'm like, this is worse
like Art Modell to me middle of the night. Art
Modell was like, how you're told to rip the band
aid off really fast, and this is more like someone

(01:08:00):
who's just gonna sit there, put the knife in your
back and then stare at you.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
I think it was yesterday's a's lineup. It's was I
think it was seven of the nine batters we're hitting
about two twenty or less, a lot below two hundred.
They're just not fielding a major league team.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Well, I got a couple nine and eight nine year
olds man who playing championship base championship.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah, call call John Fisher, you want some championship. He
He'll probably be like, no, I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Know that, I know, I know those guys. Show up,
those kids, Oh, show up and play hard.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Oh gosh, that's funny. That's funny right there. All right,
we can get to a little bit of that a
little bit later.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
But I here's what I wanted to ask you, and
I think I know how you answer it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Let's say you could be the goat and pick whatever
position or sport you want. You're the goat, but you
kind of got to sacrifice like everything else, everything else.
You might you might need to sacrifice the love of

(01:09:15):
your spouse. You might need to sacrifice at least some
of the relationship with your kids, and you probably need
to sacrifice really really caring about friends.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Like you kind of got to be alone. Would you
do it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Honestly?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
No? Yeah no.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
And the reason I say that is I'm nowhere near
the goat status. Never have said that that that I
would or could have ever been. But I'm extremely happy
about how I've my career has gone, the things that
I've been able to do, the things that I've been

(01:10:01):
able to experience playing a game that I love at
the level for as long as I have, those things
are extremely fulfilling to me. What's more fulfilling than any
of that is my family and my friends. And that's
the God's honest truth.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Like I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Wouldn't sacrifice that, the level of family and where we
are as a family right now for anything, for any award,
for any MVP, for any amount of money or anything
like that. Brother, Because money can come and go. You
can be the richest man in the world. Tomorrow, something
can happen unforeseen and the guy working at Chevrons has

(01:10:46):
more in the bank. It happens, it can happen, and
what do you have after that? And so I wouldn't
sacrifice the after for the now for anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I mean, I'm sure if Michael were sitting right here,
right now, he'd be like, that's not what I did,
and that's not what my life is like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
But damn it if it doesn't look and feel that way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Like the man, the
man's the greatest of all time, and and like his
teammates don't want to hang so like that's amazing. Their
lives are all markedly different because of him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Because of him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
You know, when you're a B level NBA player, it's
incredible how much of your marketability, your life, your success
is depending on the team that you end up on.
You know what I mean, You end up getting to
be Michael Jordan's C plus off the bench player. Well

(01:11:52):
look at you, your champ. You got four or five
six rings, can't pull your wallet out in the city
caigo and uh, and you've got a profile or a
head coaching gig or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
And so it's attached to him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
And even those guys are kind of like, yeah, you know,
that's Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's a tormentous be that great.
Look at Tiger Woods, right, look at Tiger Woods.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Although don't you feel like he's kind of co beat
it up the last Yeah? Yeah, five to seven? What happened?
Right right?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Yes, Tom Brady just threw a grenade in his whole
family situation now twice right, Like, it's like, yo, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Go go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
It's it's it's the drive. You The drive doesn't go
away with age when you're considered one of the greatest.
It doesn't go away when your body turns off. It's
still there and it messes with you mentally because mentally

(01:13:12):
you're sharp and you're ready to go, but physically it's
not a viable option. It's like, yeah, we can't do that, bro,
And that's that is the trap. That is the torment.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Well that's what Kobe did so well, he poured it
into something else.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
It's to me, that's the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
You got to take that drive and just pour it
into something else and the next thing you know, you're
winning Emmys and Oscars and do you know what I mean, Like,
go be great at something else? They say, Tyraq dot
com Studios, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
They say, people with als, it's it's it's like a
dungeon because your mind is sharp, but your body stops responding,
can't go yeah, you know what I mean? Just imagine
living in that to like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
I'm glad you brought up Tom Brady because I thought
you broke it down real nicely last week. With regard
to what the Raiders are doing. What I want to
know is do they have company? We'll explain all that
next on Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Sports Radio from the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
All right, we're live in the tirag dot com studios.
Nuggets up three, make it five? Keep you posted for sure?
Right here, Mark withther to E from Salam Fox Sports Radio.
So you laid it out nicely last weekend. Tom Brady

(01:14:41):
is not playing. The Raiders are tanking. Potentially, sure, Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Garoppolo might be healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
He might go out there and do what he has
always done in the NFL, which is win football games.
He might or he might be hurt. They might get
out from underneath that contract. And it is very possible,
seemingly that people we've never heard of before will be
quarterbacking the Las Vegas Raiders this year. And why not
because Caleb Williams. That was pretty much that was the

(01:15:08):
take last week. Do I have it about right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
That's right? That's correct, all right, is anybody joining him?

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
I was thinking about what you said, and if Caleb
Williams is that big of a deal, if he is
a sucked for luck type of a player, right, one
of these players that you're going to automatically tank for
wem Bin Yama, if that's who he is, then there
should be there should be a line.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
There should be a line of teams going for this. No, yeah,
you're absolutely right. Okay, So who are they? I've got
some candidates, Beau.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I was just looking. I'm like, okay, who who.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Is essentially setting themselves up to like, either we found
something and we have a nice season, but if we don't,
we're going to go ahead and let that ride. The
first team that comes to mind is the Washington Commanders,
who have decided that Sam howl is amazing even though
he's never played football before.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
First team that popped onto my brain.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Absolutely Washington Commander yep.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Right, okay, absolutely in that division? Yes, right, I mean
Eagles are there. Everybody has their quarterbacks, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
All playoff teams, they've all got their quarterback. Yes, So
that makes sense that Washington is not going to be like,
let's go let's go find someone instead, No, go with
the young guy. And if the young guy's good, cool,
you found someone. If he's not, then we're going to
be in the Derby Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Are they doing that? Yes? Okay? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
About the in a in an easily winnable division.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Right, well, what about the Bucks?

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
They're in the same boat. They're in the same boat,
Baker Mayfield is they'll be trying to give this division away?
Is what hard to do? Is the problem?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
The problem with trying to get the number one pick
out of that division is you know everybody's bad, so
you're gonna you're gonna automatically get some wins.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Yeah, okay, Green Bay Packers what okay?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
That was one of the two teams I wanted to
ask you about Green Bay Packers. Do you think that's
what's behind the Jordan Love faith?

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I think they like Jordan Love. I think they want
Jordan Love to work. But are they're okay if he doesn't?
Because in that division, Detroit is going to be better,
Minnesota is going to be Minnesota, and the Chicago Bears
are a big question mark with Justin Fields. Is Justin
Fields going to be batter? I would say he is

(01:18:02):
going to be so you know, is it. You know,
it's a two team race for the bottom. And I
think Green Bay is okay with Jordan Love not being
the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
And I think you know, all of the trade rumors
with Justin Fields and and all of these, all of
that setting up for we gave him a shot. He's
not the guy for the Chicago Bears. Right, it's all there,
all the noise in the off season. What are they
gonna do with the draft pick, all of these things.
It's it's right there. Well, you know, we gave him opportunity,

(01:18:42):
it just didn't whatever, blah blah blah, then you make
that move.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Yeah. The AFC South is interesting because everybody went and
got their young quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
So that feels like, even though they may be bad,
let's say they end up in that early spot, they're
not going to be Caleb Shooters, not if you just
draft CJ. Stroud, not if you just drafted Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Yeah, but we've seen teams move off first round.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Sure, the Cardinals. The Cardinals did one year, they did
they did. Yeah, yeah, I get that. Well, what about
the Cardinals, by the way, they just paid Kyler. Yeah,
they just paid.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Kyler, but they're not trust me. They do that in heartbeat.
They do that in heartbeat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
What about the Los Angeles Rams dingo ding ding ding
ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. What's
going on there?

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
That's exactly what's going on there? Usc L a kid,
you know La right here, biggest market forum.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Okay, I got more questions as we look around the league.
Coming up next.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Well, if you were not with us off the top
of the show, you missed the story of Championship E.
But that is that is now the name of from
Salam's Sun. He has changed his name officially birth certificate.
On the way Championship E. I got a question for
you this Championship E. Watch games around your house, get

(01:20:31):
emotionally invested, same way Pops does. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
When the Lakers lost, bruh, I mean, I said, Babe, okay,
his whole day was ruined. He couldn't even sleep that night.
I'm like, baby, it's okay, it's not okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
How long How long did it take to you could
say that to him though, I mean he was just
he was on the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Yeah, he was just devastated, and I loved it. The
reason I say classic moment where Dad looks at the
kid and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Goes, yeah, you know why you're block because Bob looks
at him and goes off a crowdout.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
He's in for life. He's a Laker for life. Yeah,
even when he gets drafted by someone who's not the Lakers,
he'll be a Laker for like, it'll resonate with him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Wow, he's firing up the draft board now that they
know his name is championship e men. I would draft
that person.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
It's coming. He's gonna be six eleven, he has he
has everything. He's beyond athletic to get eight. Yep, right,
it's coming. He has nothing but play basketball all day.
Just happened to win a championship in baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Yeah, except for when he's saving baseball seasons. Yeah, don't
rite that he bought him a cape.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Yet it's brou He's got it. I'm like, man, who eight,
there's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Well, the reason I asked, so this is so funny,
the way that they do mimic their their parents, because
here's dad, former professional athlete, a Laker fan who throws
remote through television.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
But listen, all right, don't be just putting just putting
falsehoods out there on the airwaves like that. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
I know, I know, I think OJ did it too.
But anyway, hey just saying. So, I've got a kid
who sure we've got our team and teams, but he
also notices, well, gosh, when our team's not playing, dad

(01:23:06):
still got it on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
We're watching whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
This young man I just went out there during the
commercial break aprom and this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Young man is almost in tears because he's done adopted
the Miami Heat. And really he goes, he goes, who
is this number? Forty four just came in and ruined

(01:23:36):
the game? I walk in, he goes dead. They got
to get him out of here. They got to get
him out of the game. And the second he says it,
he's nine years old. Second he says it right right
through the television speakers.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
There's the buzzer and forty four looks up and it's like, yep,
see you later, get off the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Forty four does have a name. His name is Cody Zeller,
and he summed in for bam out of Bayo for
about three minutes, turn it over about three times, committed
two fouls, sat back down, and I have a despondent
nine year old in the other room who's never even
been to Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Oh wait till he goes, Oh God, wait till he goes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Dad, did you kind of get forty four out of
the game? He's ruining everything? Yeah, well that happens. Sometimes
it happened. So call my show.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
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I will say this, I'd love I'd love for you
to speak on the rams a little bit more because
they are like the captains of mister right now in
the NFL, and it's making me laugh the way that
they're all going about their business. But they also do
perform in a market where you can't be using the
word tank. No, you can't even you can't you can't

(01:25:12):
even use the word rebuild.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Not allowed to do that. Los Angeles kept me get
out of here. With your rebuild. I live in one
of those cities. You live in one of those cities,
New York, Boston. You don't even come out here with
your rebuild.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
This all costs way too much to be talking about rebuild.
Get yourself together and go play good football or basketball
or baseball or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
But man, the Rams are just quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Aren't they. They're just quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
They're just over there with Like Matt Stafford might have
a career threatening injury, but we're not going to really
talk about it. Well sure, yeah, no, no, no, he's fine.
He's fine. But wait I read Ian Rappaport yet, No,
he's find okay, if you say so. And then here's
Sean McVay. Yeah, let me go do some TV. Just

(01:26:08):
you know, I probably retire. Nah, I'm not gonna retire. Why.
I don't know. They're just not into it, Aaron Donald.
I might retire, Nah, I'm not gonna retire. What is
going on with these people?

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Like they if you were in a relationship with one
of the Rams, you would shake them by now, So
you're terrible communicators.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
So you think that it's all based on that, Yeah,
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
I think there's nothing to see here. Everybody pay attention
to everywhere else. And I think this is the market
where they want in need Caleb Williams no matter what
he does, it sc and they are already paying him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
I would estimate.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
I don't know, and I don't want to throw a
number out there and make it seem crazy, but they're
already paying him, right it was the fifteen twenty million
dollars to play his next year at se through nil.
I would what do you think I would? I would
guesstimate because he could truly sit out the entire year
and be the first pick in the draft YEP. So

(01:27:17):
it's got to make sense for him, and I think
they would want nothing more than to have him at
SOELFI for the next twelve years. And I think they're
okay with the season being just I wouldn't be surprised

(01:27:39):
if Matthew came out the first week and was like, ah,
just not just not there, doesn't feel right. It's not that, no,
Jalen Ramsey, you know, it's just you know, Aaron Donald'll
be fine. He makes fifty million dollars a year or
whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
It'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
A couple of tackles, right, you know, A couple of
plays off man be one throwne helmet.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
I don't know what you'll get to.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
You'll get to get you know, the young offensive lineman
and the younger players another year of experience. So you know,
it's a business man, and this is la. You know,
this is this is this is a business.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Hey, I get it, but it's fascinating that it's even
been able to go this far. Uh. I Like the
second the Warrior season ended, the Bay Area fan base
is re obsessed with the quarterback position. Brock gonna be healthy,
Trey Lance never gonna get a shot? What the hell
is Sam Darnold doing here? What's going on? What do

(01:28:37):
you who do you like? Who should start? Let's freak out.
It's June and it's barely June. Party's not gonna even
be on a football field for at least two and
a half more months. And everybody is fixated on it.
And why because it's a quarterback. It's what we do
the quarterback, right like Aaron Rodgers of the Jets, Patrick Mahomes,

(01:29:03):
Josh Allen. Look at what we all just did with
Lamar Jackson. It's the damn quarterback and the Rams won
a Super Bowl and now for about fourteen months. They're
just kind of like, eh, I don't know, and everyone's like, okay,

(01:29:23):
if this were, if this were anywhere else, I like,
you're not allowed to keep it this quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
That's not how it works. It's the oddest thing. They
really are tight liped.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
They're like, hey, we just we're gonna just keep our
head down and go to work and we'll see how
this thing shakes out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Right, just like, I don't know where you went.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
It's not here, And I was like, okay, Like Matt Stafford,
think about it. He's won a super Bowl and then
give me, give me everything Stafford since fourteen months since
he won a super Bowl, like the ultimate moment for
his career. He was in jail in Detroit for a decade,
finally gets a new spot, wins the ball right away,

(01:30:08):
and since then, I feel like we've barely seen him.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Oh yeah, no one has seen him. He hasn't been anywhere.
Removes on all of the pizza commercials, the Little Caesar
Pizza pizza commercials and nothing there was.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Then there was the phone, the phone everything. Yes, yeah,
adn T.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Those were actually those were very funny those and you
will never ever forget.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
That so I can trade my old phone in that
I've had for thirteen years with the new phone, not
saying that I hate my old phone, right right, And.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
You will love your old phone.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
You will never ever forget your old phone because your
old phone's amazing, right right, Matthew. Okay, those were funny,
But the whole division is just a big head scratcher.
Look at this, Look at this Geno Smith. They wrote
me off, but I didn't right back. Forty nine ers
are moving up number three. Overall, we're gonna pick a

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quarterback and never play him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Let's get Sam Darnold in here too, mister irrelevant. Rams
are just like, sh we don't have a quarterback. Maybe no,
it'll notice.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
And then the Cardinals are like, let's break off big
money for a guy we actually hate, and let's put
contract clauses in that make him look like a fool
and then have him get hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
It'll be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
What is The division is drunk, completely wasted, and by
the way, still effective. Two playoff teams last year and
one of the Super Bowl favorites this year.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
It's intriguing, rights there are Super Bowl favorites and they
don't even know they don't even know who it is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
They don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Oh and when they do find out, the answer will be, oh, yeah,
it's a young guy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
It's a really young guy who's not really proven.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
Don't you love it? Don't you love it?

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
It is pretty good. It's good. It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Speaking of not knowing the way things are gonna turn,
it's I mean, it's the biggest. It's the biggest free
agency in the history of ever.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
And it's actually starting right now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
If you didn't notice, we'll get into it a little
bit coming up next with e from Salama Mark Wellard
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(01:33:12):
Good decisions, Scott out of Babe. Big win for them,
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sports you know, one oh one point one. Okay, I
don't think we've ever done this before. The more that
I think about it, I wonder if this is why.

(01:33:33):
And I don't mean anything by this, I don't there's
no issue here. But I think the fact that shohey
Otani does not speak the language means that we're about
to have the quietest largest free agency.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
In the history of ever.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
We all know he's going to get the biggest contract
in baseball's history. But compare this to Aaron Judge. Just
I mean, wow, that was only six months ago. Compare
it to Aaron Judge, where every word in front of
the New York media dissected what did he mean here?

(01:34:11):
What did he mean there? He's out in San Francisco,
he's at a hotel. Now, he's flying to San Diego,
like every move was dissected. And sure, maybe in the
winter meetings the same will happen to show Hey, but
the New York media was asking Aaron about it throughout
the season last year as well. No one's doing that here.
Maybe they are and they're just not getting an answer.

(01:34:33):
I'm not in the Anaheim clubhouse, but if everybody's going
to agree that it starts at five hundred million dollars,
which is incredible, the silence right now is absolutely deafening,

(01:34:53):
And I wonder, what do you think about this?

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Since we don't hear from him, we're just left to guess.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
What's it gonna take for the Angels to even be
a consideration with regard to show.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Hey, I don't I don't think there's there's any consideration there.
You think there's no chance. No, I don't think there's
a chance. I'm sure he wants the money. The money's coming,

(01:35:27):
but I think he wants a bigger stage. I think
baseball needs him to have a bigger stage. He has
a commercial out, a new Balance commercial. First of all, terrible, terrible,
This is terrible, right, And I had said something that

(01:35:49):
somebody had tweeted me of I was saying that, you know,
I asked my wife, you know, did they know who
that was?

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
She? Did she know who that was?

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
She was like No, I asked my kids, No, No, granted,
my you know, wife, and we don't watch a lot
of baseball. We watch some, but not a lot. But
I was making the point that he's the best player
in the MLB arguably, and there is no marketing, real

(01:36:21):
marketing campaign around them are fanfare because when you look
at the faces of the other leagues, right, when you
look at Patrick Mahomes internationally, you look at Lebron James,
do you know, whether you watch the sport or not,

(01:36:43):
you know who they are because they've been marketed and
branded that and Baseball isn't doing that or hasn't found
a way to market their face of the league to
the masses. And that new balance commercial that's not gonna
do it?

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Well, what.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
How does the fact that he doesn't speak the language
fact into this huge right?

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
So what can they do?

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Baseball's never been good at this before they had a
best player in the game in Anaheim already did nothing
with it. But even he he shares.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
In the blame people that if you want to use
the word he didn't want it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
He doesn't want it, all right, he doesn't want he
wants it, But isn't it Are you sure?

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
How do we know?

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
I think he does because he's a showman. This is
I mean, he relishes and he loved come on, man,
but he has everything. He's doing something we haven't seen
since win.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
It seems like since never since Brett Ruth. I mean yes,
so it seems like it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
So listen to this right voiceover, Okay, Samuel Jackson. Someone
anybody on the earth knows that voice. Anybody walking through ballparks,
every single ballpark in MLB. And he's stating what baseball

(01:38:16):
fans know. You know the baddest mo excu you know
who the baddest mother right, Like, we're getting that energy.
You see what I'm saying, We're getting that energy.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
You mean to tell me he can pitch.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
A no hitter.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
And then break his own no hitter at the plate
like you gotta wright and he doesn't have to say
a word, right, it's showtime and he show hey, right,
Like that's the type of energy that you have to

(01:38:54):
be able to be in a room with these marketing
people for your league. And somebody gotta step up up
and stand up and think outside the box. He doesn't.
He's in English is not his first language. So let's
speak for him. Let's show what he does. Let's make

(01:39:14):
it known that this. I mean, you want to talk
about one of the most unbelievable athletes. How many pictures
we got in the league right now? Who can pitch?
Who can pitch you? No hitter and hit over three hundred?
We got one? Like all of that, one, all of that?
Who's the one?

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
That should be the one? Should be his logo, his symbol?

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
I also know, though, the way your brain works, like
because you've said this now number of times, and I
have no doubt that there will be conversations. But I
think the fan thinks about this and goes, well, where
the show he want to go? And an agent will
be involved in this, and there'll be five, six, seven
or eight teams involved in You make it sound very
much like Major League Baseball will be involved in this.

(01:40:04):
The players Union is going to be involved in this,
Like my man, you need to go here or you
need to go there, And that always centers around either
New York or Los Angeles. So is he going to
be a Dodger? Is he going to be a Yankee?
Are we going to be a met, a met or
a Red Sox? I mean, I don't really hear. It's
funny I don't hear that name. I don't hear the Cubs,

(01:40:25):
I don't hear the Red Sox, I hear Dodgers, Yankees, Mets.
And then the secondary teams are the Padres, Giants, and Mariners.
Because there is this thought he wants to be on
the Giants. There's a thought that he wants to be
on the West Coast. I don't, I don't, And maybe
New York is the only thing that would bring him away.
I don't know that. Again, we don't know what actually

(01:40:49):
makes this dude tick. But aren't we at a spot
like can't you be a superstar anywhere? No, not anywhere,
not anywhere. But I mean, look at all the Braves.
Look at what they've achieved. Look at those players, look
at a Kunya. Yeah, they're Atlanta, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
They're just winning champion they're winning championships though, right, And
you could take all those guys and you could talk
about how great they are are, any of them the
face of the Bay of baseball? No, oh, it's all right,
let's keep it moving then, right, Well, but Barry was

(01:41:32):
you know, Barry was the face of baseball. Yeah, and
then you had right, but.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
We're having conversations a couple of hours ago about John
Morant and the NBA is concerned because he's one of
the future faces of the league.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
It won't be believe that well design it won't be there,
not now, but it was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
He's about to start a two hundred million dollar contract
in Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
Yeah, but he was for many years to Yeah, but
it wasn't time for him to be the face yet, right, Like,
he didn't have that energy coming out to be the face.
We're we're getting to see who he is as a player.
But in order, like Lebron Steph, there's the KD, there's
still those guys who are getting ready to phase out
of the league. You know what I mean, who's the

(01:42:17):
face of the league right now? It would be it
would be Lebron James still Lebron. Still, it's still st Lebron,
still Lebron. And I'm not saying he's the best player
in the league. What I'm saying he's the face of
the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
Yeah, I mean, we could have a ratings argument about
Lebron and Steph, but but they're one and one. They're
right there right with you. Yes, right, Janni's plays in Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
Yeah, and that's why Lebron and he is close. But
if Janni's played for San Francisco, if Janni's played for
the Knicks, or if Janni's played for the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
All right, and does this not work in the NFL.
The face of that league plays in Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
NFL is different. The NFL is different because ever that
because they they could. They control the markets, all of them,
they control the ratings, all of them. Nobody wins going
up against the NFL. Sure, and they have a they

(01:43:25):
have a brilliant way of marketing their product. They make
us watch Thursday night games with teams we would never
turn on ourselves think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
No, it's true, it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
They they've they've cornered the market and watching us watch
bad teams with huge numbers, huge numbers, and so that's
what they find. They're like, hey man, it is what
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
So you think the league is actually going.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
To I think they hear this. I think they need to.
And what very dodger. He's got a Dodger, a Dodger
or it's got to be a Dodger. It's got to
be a Dodger. M like you, he's out here already
but you get a real brand like you need the
real brand. This is a three point game eight seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Oh man, No, the heater, the heater doing the darn thing. Man,
there's no two ways about it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
They hung in there and not gonna be a sweep here, sir, Nope, nope.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
I guess who just lost their first game at home?
And the jinks worked.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
We sat here for three hours and talked about how
the Nuggets have won the whole thing and now they've
lost home court advantage just like that. Yep, yep. And
I got a happy nine year old over here at
the place. Speaking of happy, he always brings a smile
to our face.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
Right now, he's smiling right now.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
Get on into this Miami Heat party and help us out.

Speaker 6 (01:45:05):
One eleven, one oh eight the final in Game two
of the NBA Finals at Denver, the one seed from
the West, a team that had been nine and zero
at home in this postseason, had been forty three and
seven at home overall this long season. But despite a
late comeback a late eleven two run, Jamal Murray missed
the last shot and that was that. He took the

(01:45:26):
shot with about two minutes left. Rebound Miami game over
one eleven one oh eight for the heat Even though
Tyler hero Heat guard, who averaged twenty points a game
this year, is still out, might be returning in Game three,
we'll see. The series continues Wednesday at Miami. Unlike the opener,
which Miami had lost on the road, Max Strus was
zero for ten from the floor in that game, he

(01:45:48):
hit some three pointers early wound up with fourteen points.
The other guard gave Vincent twenty three points eight of
twelve shooting, twenty one points for Jimmy Butler, twenty one
for bam Adebio, and he'd hold off the Nuggets. Miami
was up ten to two early tonight, fell behind by
fifteen in the second quarter, and they still win on
the road. Notable because the Nuggets had a chance to

(01:46:11):
go up two games to none. When they've gone games
to none up in Nuggets history, they've always won that
series seven times total, including all three rounds this postseason.
This series is tied at a game apiece. Nikola Jokic
forty one points in defeat. He had four assists and
five turnovers. Again Game three at Miami on Wednesday, Sam

(01:46:33):
Cassell agreed to join the Celtics coaching staff. According to
the Athletic, he was on Doc Rivers staff in Philadelphia.
Pacers all star Tyrese Haliburton will play for the US
at this summer's Basketball World Cup. According to the Athletic,
the attorney starts in late August in Asia, with Steve
kerb Golden State as the US head coach. Eric Spolster
of the Heat one of the assistants. Victor wembin Yama's

(01:46:54):
team advanced to the French League finals. He had fifteen
points five blocks today. Their final start next week. Of course,
NBA Draft coming up late this month. Stanley Cup Game
two is Monday night. Kyle Busch the NASCAR winner. Denny
Hamlin finished second. Victor Hovelin took the Memorial in a
playoff at the French Open. Number one Carlos Alcarez advanced

(01:47:14):
to the quarterfinals. The Sunday night ballgame went to the
Yankees for to one over the Dodgers. The top four
in the Dodger lineup went oh for fifteen. Tonight, Atlanta
with a grand slam top of the ninth from Eddie
Rosario won eight to five at Arizona. Cubs led at
San Diego seven to nothing. In the third inning and
beat the Padres seven to one. Padres record twenty seven
and thirty two, and the Mets with that payroll thirty

(01:47:37):
and thirty They lost at home to Toronto six to four.
Blue Jays with four straight wins. Texas won again, Pittsburgh
won its fifth in a row, Milwaukee and Tampa Bay
with victories, and we mentioned it earlier in the show.
Quite a story from the LPGA. Rojang won today's event
in her pro debut, a first on that tour since
nineteen fifty one. What you were talking about with the

(01:47:59):
market of bit and the language barrier with Otani, I
immediately thought of what the LPGA has been going through
the last ten to twenty years with so many great
players from South Korea that don't speak English, and it's
been a problem with marketability. Ironically, MLB had some marketing
news literally just a few days ago, where the union
or their business arm agreed to let Major League Baseball

(01:48:22):
market players like if you have an existing contractor if
you're an advertiser of MLB. This is not something that
a player's agent lines up somebody who's a partner of MLB.
They can now use MLB players in their ads and
promotions groups. Before this, you would have had to have
a separate sponsor agreement with the union and a separate

(01:48:44):
sponsor agreement with MLB. That's been a bit streamlined as
of literally just a couple days ago back to you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
What thank you, Steve, and and the fact that they
hadn't done that, because that's what the end I did
NFL commercials and all of that, and every other league
does that. That's why you see a Matthew Stafford on
Papa John's commercial, arts, Little Caesar excuse me, little Seedsars
commercial and the A T and T, and you see like, yeah,

(01:49:12):
yes you use the stars. If you're a sponsor of
the league, then you get to you you can ask
them or tell them who you want in the campaign
and all that you pay the player and you use them.
That way, they can wear their actual uniform and not

(01:49:37):
right like they could actually be themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Not look like Dak Prescott out there with the real housewives.
Yeah around, just like I wear blue, just blue. Yeah,
it's crazy. You know what's crazy? Man? We gotta talk
about heat for a second. What what what what is this?
Where are we going here? No? No, no, I don't

(01:50:06):
think they're winning at all, but who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
What I think is kind of where I'm at with
regard to the Miami Heat.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
This is nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
And what's what's interesting is what I find interesting is
that for some reason there's some sort of little pathway
that the Heat have. Maybe it's pat Riley, maybe it's
Spolstra familiarity with June basketball. But somehow, someway this is

(01:50:36):
happening and we're all sitting around going like, yep, that's
the Heat. I'm like, wait, what do you understand? What
would be happening in any other year if an eight seed,
If an eight seed the NFL and Major League Baseball
don't even have eight seeds.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
If an eight seed.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
Is messing around in a championship round, what would this
be akin to If this were the NCAA tournament, give
me the seed that's in the championship game.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
What are we looking at? Sixteen?

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
Fourteen, thirteen fourteen. It would be a sixteen. I mean
it would be a sixteen, just the lowest seed, and
we would be five first sixteen seed.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
This is akin to an NFL team being owen seven
and finding their way into a wildcard spot and then
going to the super Bowl and leading at halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Yes, and for some reason, you tell me what it is.
I throw out a couple possibilities. But we're sitting here like, yeah, yep,
makes sense. I'm like, no, it doesn't, not even a
little bit. It makes none sense. None. No, they don't
have a player that's won a title.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
They went forty four and thirty eight down in the
second half of the second play in tournament game, and
then they're doing this and everyone's like.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
Yeah, I mean, wow, you just you really like, no,
this is out of control. On the road, too tough
place to play. No one first playoffs has beaten them there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
First loss there, first lost there exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Hey, man, when you can when you man can poke
holes in your armor and your opponent's armor and they
can feel the breeze through that that that armor, you
change their mindset because prior to losing at home, there

(01:52:52):
is no like it's like, oh, they can't beat us
at home, so no matter what happens. But once you
make that a reality, now it's like, oh okay, now
they have to refocus. And that's what you want. You
want your opponent to make adjustments. You want them to
make adjustments.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
This team six days ago also won Game seven on
the road in Boston.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
Mass not only one. They thrashed Boss and Boss.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
I'm telling you, man, there's more to say on this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
We're live at the Tirack dot Com studios and this
is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (01:53:32):
Work on the right side. Six it out top to Duncan.
He b moves it to its left to Lowry. You
want to give it back, but held on to it,
pulling it back six on the shot clock.

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
Lowery uses a BAM screen right back to bam.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
Threw it down with two hands and one BAM.

Speaker 7 (01:53:50):
Scoll making sure no fouls. Jimmy reaches but no foul.
Called murray to Tiant it's out, he went. Game two
of the twenty twenty three NBA Finals belongs to the Heat.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
I mean, I don't get it. I do know that
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in the history of sports, and tell me how the
Miami Heat winning a championship would fit into that bucket,
if you will. The lowest seed to ever win an

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NBA Finals was the six the Houston Rock.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
It's they're going to do a documentary here in the
Bay Area about a team that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
That we called the we Believe Team. Many around the
country may not know what that is. These were Don Nelson's,
Baron Davis's Steven Jackson now Harrington's Golden State Warriors team
that upset the MVP Derk Novisky and the Dallas Mavericks

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in Round one of the playoffs. They then got booted
out in five games in the second round. They're going
to make a documentary out of that eight seat. They're
making a documentary. All they did was go to the
second round.

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
This person they did.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
I get it, my man.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
I mean, if we could spend one night with that
Warrior team off the court, probably would have been the
last night of our lives.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
But they're making a documentary about that eight seed because
they went to the second round this one has home
court advantage in the NBA Finals, and we're like, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
Well, a heater, good organization. I'm I don't know, man,
I've told you this.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
For three weeks in a row. Now this is being undersold.
This is insanity. We're acting like, well, you know, the
East was all jumbled, No, that was the West. We're
acting like the Bucks, Celtics and Sixers.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Were the clear class of the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
We're acting like that wasn't something that every one of
us were simply discussing. Which one of those three was
going to make the NBA finals. A fifty eight win
team that barely be that. A fifty seven win team,
two best records in the NBA for the one in
the two seed in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Both of them defeated by this eight seed on their
home floor, and we're just like, well, yeah, because pat
Riley's good what they got a good organization.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
I don't know what to say, man, this is one
of the biggest upsets in the history of sports.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
And I don't think you could talk me off that opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
If it goes down, yes, And I guess because there's
not a lot of flavor and fanfare for Denver. Mike
Malone has been preaching that the whole time, like no

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one's talking about them and what they're doing. It's always
how someone else lost. And so that's adding to the
lack of and granted the game, they just won the game.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
Sure, but we're here.

Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
Headlines will be exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
But but we're here. We're here in the NBA Finals.
We're in the NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Yes, you know, they lost three in a row to
Boston and and we wrote them off then and nope, nope,
they got that one. And they did what they did
to Milwaukee, and they did what they did early to
even get to this point.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
They've they've done all of these.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
Things and uh and now now they've they've taken a
home court here and I yeah, no, I wouldn't pick
them even now. But I just know what the build
up of a major upset usually feels like.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
And this isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
Not it at all, It really isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
We we hear more when when when TCU goes to
the National Championship Game.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
Yeah yeah, our butler, you know, you know, in in
in C double A hoops.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
And I think I think this is harder, man. This
has been going on for how many weeks ago ago?
Did the playoffs start? Started in April? It's June. This
has been going on for like, we're closing in on
two months of this. They still going. It was just like, well, yeah,
that makes sense. It doesn't make sense. They're still going.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
Man. You know, yeah, like if if if the Jags
had beaten the Chiefs last year in round two?

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
What what are we doing? What are we doing? Yeah?
That would be right crazy? And then and then they
go to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:59:58):
But the crazy thing about Miami I means people are
expecting it's whatever this bottle up Jimmy Butler thing is.
It's not a shock. It's not a shock. And oh,
by the way, they get Tyler herro back. Oh man,
this is about to be a problem.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
They got a real score, that's twenty points, a game
that they had to replace.

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
And somehow did with people we've never heard of before
ever who weren't drafted.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
The one thing that can help you in the playoffs
deep bench.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
Yeah, it's fun, man, the game on here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Oh, by the way, say h the championship eve for
me and we'll talk to you next week.