On The Ledge - your Ontario politics podcast
The Ledge, n: slang for the legislature. Mostly used by members of the legislative press gallery. On the Ledge posts weekly when the Ontario Legislature is sitting. But there have been times when we've had to "recall" the Ledge for an emergency session to address pressing matters of Ontario politics when Queen's Park isn't sitting! Our OTL team includes former Ontario Premier, Kathleen Wynne, former Progressive Conservative Leader, (and Wynne's erstwhile parliamentary sparring partner), Tim Hudak, Queen's Park broadcast commentator Keith Leslie, John Wright, our veteran pollster and co-founding host, and Dave Trafford, Chief Executive Producer at Story Studio Network.
Episodes
December 19, 2025 • 15 mins
We ALWAYS say, things may have changed since we recorded our latest episode of On the Ledge. And we usally leave it that.
Not this week.
Hours after posting our weekly roundtable with Kathleen Wynne, John Wright, Tim Hudak and Keith Leslie, news broke at Queen's Park - news we couldn't ignore.
Ontario's Integrity Commissioner has responded to two separate complaints filed by the Opposition NDP and Liberals and has decided to launch an...
Not this week.
Hours after posting our weekly roundtable with Kathleen Wynne, John Wright, Tim Hudak and Keith Leslie, news broke at Queen's Park - news we couldn't ignore.
Ontario's Integrity Commissioner has responded to two separate complaints filed by the Opposition NDP and Liberals and has decided to launch an...
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December 18, 2025 • 60 mins
In the final episode of the year, Dave Trafford is joined by Keith Leslie, Kathleen Wynne, John Wright, and Tim Hudak for a wide-ranging, end-of-year roundtable on Ontario and national politics. The discussion opens with sharp criticism of the Ford government’s decision to extend the legislature’s recess, raising concerns about accountability, democratic health, and the loss of pre-budget scrutiny. The panel examines fallout from t...
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December 11, 2025 • 56 mins
This episode finds the ON THE LEDGE panel assessing Ontario politics as the legislature heads into an unusually long nine-week winter recess. Dave Trafford is joined by political analyst Keith Leslie, former premier Kathleen Wynne, pollster John Wright, and Toronto Sun columnist Brian Lilley for a wide-ranging conversation about a government under strain, an opposition struggling to connect, and a public increasingly fatigued by po...
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December 5, 2025 • 53 mins
This week on On the Ledge, Dave Trafford is joined by Keith Leslie, John Wright, Tim Hudak, and Kathleen Wynne for a wide-ranging conversation centred on the Ontario Auditor General’s annual report.
The panel digs deeply into the issues revealed around Ontario’s healthcare system—particularly physician billing, outdated OHIP technology, primary-care shortages, administrative burdens, and the lack of coherent province-wide planning f...
The panel digs deeply into the issues revealed around Ontario’s healthcare system—particularly physician billing, outdated OHIP technology, primary-care shortages, administrative burdens, and the lack of coherent province-wide planning f...
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November 28, 2025 • 62 mins
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Kathleen Wynne, Tim Hudak, John Wright, Vicki, Keith Leslie
In this wide-ranging conversation, the roundtable begins with a deeply personal and moving story from Tim Hudak about his daughter Miller’s extraordinary journey overcoming apraxia, culminating in her powerful return to Loretto Abbey as an honour-roll speaker. That message of courage and kindness threads into a broader discussion about the need fo...
Guests: Kathleen Wynne, Tim Hudak, John Wright, Vicki, Keith Leslie
In this wide-ranging conversation, the roundtable begins with a deeply personal and moving story from Tim Hudak about his daughter Miller’s extraordinary journey overcoming apraxia, culminating in her powerful return to Loretto Abbey as an honour-roll speaker. That message of courage and kindness threads into a broader discussion about the need fo...
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November 21, 2025 • 57 mins
This week on On The Ledge, Dave Trafford, Kathleen Wynne, and Tim Hudak dive into a true curbside controversy: the disappearance of local Beer Stores has pushed mountains of bottles into blue bins—and Ontarians want to know why the LCBO isn’t taking responsibility. With Beer Stores closing and grocery stores refusing bottle returns, residents are losing deposits, recycling systems are strained, and small retailers are being asked t...
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November 13, 2025 • 57 mins
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests:
• Tim Hudak – Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former Ontario PC Leader
• Keith Leslie – Political Commentator, CH Television
• Kathleen Wynne – Former Premier of Ontario
On this week’s episode of On the Ledge, Dave Trafford and the panel dig into what was supposed to be a quiet off-week at Queen’s Park — only to discover a flood of political controversies and policy battles.
The conversation begins with birth...
Guests:
• Tim Hudak – Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former Ontario PC Leader
• Keith Leslie – Political Commentator, CH Television
• Kathleen Wynne – Former Premier of Ontario
On this week’s episode of On the Ledge, Dave Trafford and the panel dig into what was supposed to be a quiet off-week at Queen’s Park — only to discover a flood of political controversies and policy battles.
The conversation begins with birth...
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November 7, 2025 • 75 mins
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Kathleen Wynne (former Ontario Premier), Tim Hudak (Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former Ontario PC Leader), Keith Leslie (Political Analyst, CHCH), John Wright (CEO, Canada Pulse Insights)
In this week’s episode, Dave Trafford and the On The Ledge panel unpack the political and policy fallout from Prime Minister Mark Carney’s first federal budget—and the Ford government’s deepening Skills Development F...
Guests: Kathleen Wynne (former Ontario Premier), Tim Hudak (Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former Ontario PC Leader), Keith Leslie (Political Analyst, CHCH), John Wright (CEO, Canada Pulse Insights)
In this week’s episode, Dave Trafford and the On The Ledge panel unpack the political and policy fallout from Prime Minister Mark Carney’s first federal budget—and the Ford government’s deepening Skills Development F...
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October 30, 2025 • 64 mins
October 29, 2025
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Kathleen Wynne, John Wright, Keith Leslie
Featured Interview: Neil Hetherington, CEO, Daily Bread Food Bank
In this wide-ranging roundtable, Dave Trafford is joined by former Ontario premier Kathleen Wynne, pollster John Wright, and journalist Keith Leslie to unpack a week of political turbulence—from Premier Doug Ford’s Reagan-themed U.S. trade ad and the resulting tariff tantrum from Washi...
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Kathleen Wynne, John Wright, Keith Leslie
Featured Interview: Neil Hetherington, CEO, Daily Bread Food Bank
In this wide-ranging roundtable, Dave Trafford is joined by former Ontario premier Kathleen Wynne, pollster John Wright, and journalist Keith Leslie to unpack a week of political turbulence—from Premier Doug Ford’s Reagan-themed U.S. trade ad and the resulting tariff tantrum from Washi...
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October 24, 2025 • 61 mins
We recorded this week's show about 12 hours before Donald Trump flew off his social media handle and trashed the Canada-US trade talks because of Ontario's anti-tariff ads running on US networks.
For the sake of context this version of this week's show...includes commentary around Trump's antics and what Doug Ford may...or may not do about it.
Otherwise...here's the show.
ON THE LEDGE – YOUR ONTARIO POLITICS PODCAST
Host: Dave Trafford
...
For the sake of context this version of this week's show...includes commentary around Trump's antics and what Doug Ford may...or may not do about it.
Otherwise...here's the show.
ON THE LEDGE – YOUR ONTARIO POLITICS PODCAST
Host: Dave Trafford
...
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ON THE LEDGE – YOUR ONTARIO POLITICS PODCAST
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Keith Leslie (CH Television), Tim Hudak (Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former Ontario PC leader), John Wright (CEO, Canada Pulse Insights)
Dave Trafford is joined by Keith Leslie, Tim Hudak, and John Wright for a lively roundtable that begins with the soaring cost of World Series tickets and quickly pivots into a sharp political discussion about Doug Ford’s go...
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Keith Leslie (CH Television), Tim Hudak (Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former Ontario PC leader), John Wright (CEO, Canada Pulse Insights)
Dave Trafford is joined by Keith Leslie, Tim Hudak, and John Wright for a lively roundtable that begins with the soaring cost of World Series tickets and quickly pivots into a sharp political discussion about Doug Ford’s go...
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October 16, 2025 • 53 mins
As Queen’s Park returns from its extended break, host Dave Trafford gathers the OTL panel — former Ontario Premier, the Honourable Kathleen Wynne, former Ontario PC leader, the Honourable Tim Hudak, veteran pollster John Wright, and CH TV commentator Keith Leslie — to dissect a turbulent week in Ontario politics.
The conversation opens with the Stellantis decision to move Jeep Compass production from Brampton to Illinois — a move ...
The conversation opens with the Stellantis decision to move Jeep Compass production from Brampton to Illinois — a move ...
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October 9, 2025 • 60 mins
Dave Trafford welcomes back the full panel — former Premier Kathleen Wynne, former PC leader Tim Hudak, veteran journalist Keith Leslie, and pollster John Wright — for a fall political reset at Queen’s Park. The conversation opens with reflections on the late Jim Bradley, the long-serving Ontario Liberal who embodied integrity, bipartisanship, and a deep respect for public service. The panel shares personal memories and stories tha...
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September 17, 2025 • 10 mins
What’s Next for the Ontario Liberal Party After Bonnie Crombie’s Resignation?
Bonnie Crombie resigns after a failed leadership review. On The Ledge panel asks: why did she step down, and who will lead the Ontario Liberals next?
In this bonus episode of On The Ledge – your Ontario politics podcast makes a special appearance on Newstalk 1010 with Moore in the Morning.
OTL Host Dave Trafford, former Premier Kathleen Wynne and former PC l...
Bonnie Crombie resigns after a failed leadership review. On The Ledge panel asks: why did she step down, and who will lead the Ontario Liberals next?
In this bonus episode of On The Ledge – your Ontario politics podcast makes a special appearance on Newstalk 1010 with Moore in the Morning.
OTL Host Dave Trafford, former Premier Kathleen Wynne and former PC l...
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June 20, 2025 • 55 mins
On the Ledge - Your Ontario politics podcast - June 19, 2025
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak, Keith Leslie, John Wright, Kathleen Wynne
This season finale of On the Ledge dives deep into Premier Doug Ford’s tumultuous week of unscripted rants and calculated risk. The panel unpacks Ford’s inflammatory comments on bail reform and “weak-kneed judges,” his car theft anecdote, and the problematic framing of First Nations relations ah...
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak, Keith Leslie, John Wright, Kathleen Wynne
This season finale of On the Ledge dives deep into Premier Doug Ford’s tumultuous week of unscripted rants and calculated risk. The panel unpacks Ford’s inflammatory comments on bail reform and “weak-kneed judges,” his car theft anecdote, and the problematic framing of First Nations relations ah...
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June 13, 2025 • 51 mins
On the Ledge – Your Ontario Politics Podcast - June 12, 2025
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Kathleen Wynne, Tim Hudak, John Wright, Keith Leslie
This episode of On the Ledge confronts a deeply troubling issue: the lack of accountability and transparency following a violent assault involving Anwar Knight’s son at school. The discussion focuses on Knight’s public appeal for justice, after an 18-month struggle with school board officials, t...
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Kathleen Wynne, Tim Hudak, John Wright, Keith Leslie
This episode of On the Ledge confronts a deeply troubling issue: the lack of accountability and transparency following a violent assault involving Anwar Knight’s son at school. The discussion focuses on Knight’s public appeal for justice, after an 18-month struggle with school board officials, t...
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June 5, 2025 • 55 mins
On the Ledge - June 5, 2025
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak, Kathleen Wynne, John Wright, Keith Leslie
This week on On the Ledge, Dave Trafford and the panel dive deep into the fallout and implications of Ontario’s controversial Bill 5. With the legislature on summer break, the political temperature rises over Indigenous consultation, environmental oversight, and the Ford government’s legislative tactics.
The conversation also ra...
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak, Kathleen Wynne, John Wright, Keith Leslie
This week on On the Ledge, Dave Trafford and the panel dive deep into the fallout and implications of Ontario’s controversial Bill 5. With the legislature on summer break, the political temperature rises over Indigenous consultation, environmental oversight, and the Ford government’s legislative tactics.
The conversation also ra...
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May 31, 2025 • 64 mins
Show Notes for On the Ledge – May 29, 2025
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak, Kathleen Wynne, Keith Leslie, John Wright
Episode Summary:
This week on On the Ledge, host Dave Trafford and the panel dive deep into Ontario’s Bill 5 and the mounting controversy surrounding its scope, timing, and lack of consultation—particularly with Indigenous communities. Kathleen Wynne calls it “a mess of this government’s own making,” while Tim Hud...
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak, Kathleen Wynne, Keith Leslie, John Wright
Episode Summary:
This week on On the Ledge, host Dave Trafford and the panel dive deep into Ontario’s Bill 5 and the mounting controversy surrounding its scope, timing, and lack of consultation—particularly with Indigenous communities. Kathleen Wynne calls it “a mess of this government’s own making,” while Tim Hud...
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On the Ledge | May 23, 2025
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak (Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former PC leader), Keith Leslie (CHCH political commentator), John Wright (Pollster and political analyst)
In this episode of On the Ledge, Dave Trafford and guests dig into the political stories and policy debates dominating Ontario politics this week. From personal anecdotes about Catholic schools and long jump memories to a sharp ana...
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak (Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former PC leader), Keith Leslie (CHCH political commentator), John Wright (Pollster and political analyst)
In this episode of On the Ledge, Dave Trafford and guests dig into the political stories and policy debates dominating Ontario politics this week. From personal anecdotes about Catholic schools and long jump memories to a sharp ana...
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May 15, 2025 • 71 mins
On the Ledge – May 15, 2025
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Keith Leslie, John Wright, Tim Hudak (Kathleen Wynne sent regrets)
In this episode of On the Ledge, Dave Trafford, Keith Leslie, John Wright, and Tim Hudak kick things off talking about the OTR Spring Fling at Queen's Park!
Then they unpack Ontario’s budget day, dive into the affordability crisis, and explore how interprovincial cooperation and infrastructure expansion are key to...
Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Keith Leslie, John Wright, Tim Hudak (Kathleen Wynne sent regrets)
In this episode of On the Ledge, Dave Trafford, Keith Leslie, John Wright, and Tim Hudak kick things off talking about the OTR Spring Fling at Queen's Park!
Then they unpack Ontario’s budget day, dive into the affordability crisis, and explore how interprovincial cooperation and infrastructure expansion are key to...
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