September 28, 2023 • 39 mins
Chris and Rob explain why it’s unfair for anyone to compare Micah Parsons to Lawrence Taylor and tell us why Ronald Acuna Jr’s historic 40/70 season feels a little fugazi. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Eddie House swings by to discuss Damian Lillard getting traded to the Milwaukee Bucks, why the Miami Heat keep striking out on big stars and much more!
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
The NBA champion on lots to get into with him,
obviously with the big Damian Lillard trade. Rob, but first
let's go to the NFL. It is, of course that
time of year and Micah Parsons, Rob one of the
great defenders in the league today two fantastic games to
(01:21):
start the season, and I actually thought through the first
two games of the year he was the MVP. And
that's obviously early, but you know, I thought he was
the best player in football through those first two games.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Obviously, now that wouldn't be the case to a toungue.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Viola would be the number one guy right now in
the MVP race, and Michaeh wouldn't be that close because
he didn't dazzle, to say the least in the third game,
a loss to the mediocre at best Arizona Cardinals. But
rob a lot of people I've mentioned him and Lawrence
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Taylor before, or a lot of people really started comparing
them recently, and Bill Belichick has talked about that here he.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Is comparing players like that. It's not really I would
just say, like, I wouldn't put anybody ahead of Lawrence
Taylor period. No, maybe I'm prejudiced, but I mean I
saw that guy every day for over a decade, and
he tilted the field for a decade. So until somebody
does that, and there's a lot of great players, I'm
not taking any away from anybody else. There's a lot
(02:28):
of great players that have been in this league that
are in this league. But personally, I'm not putting anybody
out of Lawrence Taylor, not.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yet, Chris, Chris. I'm I'm with Bill Belichick and and
I had the pleasure. I was a young reporter in
New York, Chris, and I covered Lawrence Taylor. I saw
it up close, yep. I was at Giants Stadium, the
you know, the old Giants stadium and covered those games.
(02:55):
Lawrence Taylor was a wrecking machine. And that is no
diss to Micah. You know what I mean, Chris. I'm
not saying he can't play or he's not a tremendous
football player, but I'm sorry Lawrence Taylor. And Bill Belichick
said it. He tilted the field, Chris. He tilted the field.
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And he was one of those guys that you had
to know where he was on the field, like, yeah,
don't I don't care who was playing, who was quarterback,
any other position. Lawrence Taylor was a monster, Chris. And
when you look at Michael Parsons, here's a problem. There
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are other guys Chris, who have, you know, even better
numbers than him. He's not even like the best pass
rusher since he's been in the League, you know what
I mean, like, like, so how can we I know
it's great because when he first came on the scene,
he was all over the place and people were like,
how do you fend this guy? And his presence. Chris
(04:03):
was electric on the When you watch the game, correct
like there he.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Is, Micah, Yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Electric, there he is. He got through again. Oh my god,
who can They can't block him? Like it felt like that.
But if you pull a curtain back on some other
players during this time, how about T J. Watt. Chris
in eight less games, three and a half more sacks,
(04:31):
one more fumble recovery, one more forced fumble, same number
of defensive touchdowns, and one less quarterback hit. He was
a Defensive Player of the Year. Micah does not have that.
He hadn't done it yet. So there are other players
who you could put ahead of him already at this point.
(04:54):
So it hasn't been like the meteoric start to wear.
He's got all those things, like like Patrick Mahomes is
one of those guys who has all those things. Chris
from the very beginning, the MVP, the Super Bowl, he
has a hardware right and Michael Parson just doesn't have that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yet, Well, look, I certainly agree with Bill Belichick saying
you don't put anybody ahead of LT.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
LT is rob not only.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I think virtually everybody says the greatest defensive player ever.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
He's in the discussion for the greatest football player EF.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
He's got to be up there in the top three.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'm white.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That doesn't put Tom Brady. I think Tom Brady's the
best quarterback ever. I think Tom Brady ever say the
best football player. But LT's in that discussion, and I,
in a fairness to people, I don't think anybody in
rob G speak up. If you can think of someone,
I don't think anybody's put him Micah ahead of LT. No,
(05:55):
but just that he's in that conversation, I think yeah.
But but but Belichick did. Now, I don't know if
he was being strategic, But you said I wouldn't put
anybody ahead of LT. He didn't say I wouldn't put
anybody in the conversation with Lawrence Taylor, I wouldn't put
anybody on the same level as Lawrence Taylor. He didn't
(06:15):
say the comparisons are ridiculous. He just said I wouldn't
put anybody ahead, which everybody would agree with that, here's
the one pushback I have on your cause you kind
of said the numbers you know you got guys.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I mean Nick Bosa was defensive player to your last year.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Watt's numbers are better than Micah's.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It is a lot. I mean, Micah's got good numbers too,
but it is a lot of just watching the game.
And I know you watch him as well, so I'm
not you know, I'm not saying you don't, but it's
watching Micah and what he's doing on the field again,
particularly in those first two games where he was He's
(06:58):
lining up on so many different parts of the field,
the line of scrimmage, and he is just putting so
much pressure on the.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Quarterbacks, whether he sacks or not.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
The havoc he was reeking and how he was making
the offense have to account for him. That is what
had people like, my goodness, this looks like Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And like I said, it's not just about numbers.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Lawrence Taylor only led the league in sacks once one time,
and he only led the league.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That was the only category he ever led the league in.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
He had one touchdown one year his second year that
was tied for the most by defensive player, but he
never led the league and you know, fumbles recovered, fumbles forced,
or you know anything, I mean, fumblespots they didn't keep
it at that time, but fumbles.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
He didn't lead the league in any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
His first two years robbed nine and a half, saxes,
first year, seven and a half, his second year nine
is third year, you know, but he was defensive Player
of the Year his first two years.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
So again it was about people just.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Looking similar to Micah, people just looking at the impact
he was having on the game, not just how many
sacks he got and things like that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I get that, but the heart. But the same thing, Chris,
if you if you look at Micah without the and
saying he didn't have, you know, the big numbers and
looking at him.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And he does have good night, No saxes first year,
thirteen and a half last year.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
But winning defensive player of the Year is what separates
the two. You know, you're talking about it for second
both years. Yeah, the first two years. And the other
thing too is obviously the Giants won two Super Bowls
with LT there, and that was a big part of
it and their defense back then Chris was that MONTI.
That was the team that Phil Simms and they won
with Jeff Hostedler, Right, it didn't matter that quarter if
(09:05):
Phil Sims won some big time four hundred yard pass
or anything. You know, he was a good quarterback, one
great and Jeff Hosteler filled in when he was hurt
and they won two Super Bowls. Their defense was what
that team was all about. Yeah, no, no question. And
I think too and Rob, if I'm not.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Mistaken, and this is funny, but you know it's you
just gotta you have to understand and you'll get what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Someone posted.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I believe because it was talked about at my job,
the TV show. First things First, you know, obviously Joe
Namath was critical of Zach Wilson, and someone posted their numbers,
and as you might imagine, Rob, Zach Wilson's were rivaling
(09:58):
Joe names. Okay, but obviously you can't put Zach Wilson
in the same sentence as Joe names.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But it's a different right, all time great and all that, and.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Joe Namath has some things, Chris, when you talk about it,
I'm not here to say Joe Namath was the greatest
quarterback on anything.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He was a legit Hall of Fame and first to
throw for four thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
They weren't throwing the football like that. You know, people
can say whatever they want four thousand back then, Chris,
that was a lot of yards that he threw four
oh got and he won a Super Bowl against the
Baltimore Colts, who one of the greatest football teams. And
at that time, Chris right in NFL history with Don Shula,
(10:41):
who's the head coach of that team.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, he looked he led the AFL twice in passing yards,
led the NFL once, led the NFL in passing touchdowns.
This is Joe Namath I'm talking about, led the league's
total three times in yards per game like he was.
You know, so at that time you can't. My point
is you can't just look at the numbers because quarterbacks
(11:05):
and receivers were not protected like they are today. So
the numbers are gonna be much better today. Nor did
they throw it as much. Even Nameath throwing for four
thousand yards, he didn't throw it nearly as much as
quarterbacks do today.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So that's something. And I brought that up because it's
similar with sacks.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Rob Now Lawrence Taylor had twenty sacks the year he
won they won the Super Bowl in eighty five or
eighty six, But the eighty five season he had twenty
and a half sacks to lead the league. That was
his third Defensive Player of the Year award. That's the
year he won the MVP. Last defensive player to do it.
(11:44):
Guys should get I don't know if it was Rob
Woodson who mentioned it on our show where I heard
it somewhere else, Rob, but he's right.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Guys should get more sacks today because they.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Put it so much to the ball. And that's what
I was gonna say. Chris lt having twenty and a
half sacks in nineteen eighty six, that might be thirty
five sacks today because he knows that, you know what
I mean? Because think about that they were running the ball.
They're running backs. You didn't know was a pass every
down or three out of four downs. That's an incredible number,
(12:15):
just you know, running running, Just forget about somebody running
by you.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Quarterback every no doubt, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So you just need to keep that in mind as
you look, you know, I'm talking to the listeners. As
you look at some of these stats, don't rush out
Remember the person rushed out there a few years ago,
rob when Ryan Fitzpatrick was in one of his fitsmagic.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Runs for three or four Gamesoy turned back into a pump.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right, and they said he's got more career touchdown passes
than Troy Aikman. I mean, it ended up looking foolish
because you have to understand the context. It's like saying
Lebron James has more three pointers made than Larry Bird.
He's a better three point shooter. You gotta understand the
con text. And so it's the same with sacks. It's
(13:03):
not sacks is probably not quite as pronounced as you
know the quarterback stats and the differences. But just be
aware of that when you look at stat numbers for sacks,
because they they should. There's so many more opportunities now
to sack the quarterback than there used to be, So.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Just keep that in mind.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
But yeah, look, I think Micah Is reminds a lot
of it. I think the best way to say it, Robbie,
he reminds a lot of people of Lawrence Taylor. Now
he's got a long way to go before he can
ever be really, you know, compared to Lawrence Taylor. Like
you said, Lawrence has three Defensive Player of the Years
(13:42):
two that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
The first two years he did that.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You know, this is, like I said, the best player
defensively ever, last defensive player to win an MVP. And
so you just got to keep that in mind. But Micah,
look it'll be interesting to watch you. Let me throw
this out to you. You're still just him, Chris, not
at all.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Let me throw this out to you, and quickly because
we're gonna get to the listeners.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I've said, Mike has gotta be careful with that podcast. Look,
I don't want to get in his pockets. Let him
make his money, let him do his podcast.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But Rob, when you look at most of the players
that do, the current players that are doing.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
You have a lot of retired players, obviously, but the.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Current players for the most part. I might be missing
the young and out there. But Jason and Travis Kelsey
veterans who've won championships. Draymond Green veteran who won a champion, championships,
Paul George and Patrick Beverley not not championship, they haven't won,
but they're veterans, longtime veterans. You don't see a ton
(14:50):
of just young guys.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And my point is.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
He could say, he can say a lot of stuff
that could come back to haunt team or be bulletin
board material for other teams.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Because you're just a young guy. You're running off.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Of the mouth, and you have not yet delivered a ring,
and so I just think they gotta be careful with that.
All right, it's the eye couple Chris and Rob. Rob
Parker did not want to address that. I don't know,
that's that's odd because he loves talking about players having podcasts.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And being I just we're just so tight on time, Chris,
So I didn't want to go crazy on it. But
I'm with you on you know, I'm you know, I
got an hour on players not doing especially when they're playing.
I just think, play, dude, there's plenty of time for
you to do that stuff, Chris. Play. You should play,
focusing on playing. So I don't want to be too late.
(15:44):
I want the callers, the listeners to be able to
get in. That's why I didn't going to get.
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ninety nine. On Fox, Michael Parsons Lawrence Taylor. The comparisons
are out there. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Packers already up Chris three nothing with a field goal
after a pick by Jared Goff? What is that? One
pick at each of the first three games this.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Year for golf?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, he yeah, I'm not sure that's what I thought,
but it said that said that he had a pick.
All right, Tony in DC, you're on the odd couple
of Fox portraited. What up, Tony? What's up?
Speaker 10 (17:45):
Fellers?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
How are you?
Speaker 10 (17:47):
I'm gonna go to raw Parker bag on this one?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
No way?
Speaker 9 (17:51):
No.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
How is Michael Parson's in the same centers with Lawrence Taylor.
And I'm a diehard Cowboys fan, and I will tell
you Lawrence Taylor is the best football player I've ever
seen in my life.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Period.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
Every left tackle should have a picture of Lawrence Taylor.
In their basement and explain to their kids, this is man.
This is the reason why we live like we live
because of this man.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Okay, that's true.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That became a huge, hugely important position because of Lawrence Taylor,
no doubt.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
And I will say this Rob, You know, New York
in the eighties was wild. Like I was telling Rob G,
I don't even think we saw the best of Lawrence
Taylor because of his off the field issues. If he
was like really laser focus on the game, this man
might have over two hundred and fifty sacks that Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
All the stuff that he went through, Dad, you used
to have to go get him Chris out of crackhouses.
There's all kinds of stuff. He was a mess. He
was a mess. If he imagine how he just played
football and was clean and what could have been.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, maybe I should just be thankful. Michael is just
doing a podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I just say this guy about that.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
I don't want to cut you off, but could you
make a case that we got the better version of
LTA because he was.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I didn't really want to say that, but it's possible.
I mean, you know, it's like.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Or it may have gone either way, or it may
not have mattered. I mean, you know, I don't I
don't know, but that's possible. Rob g Okay, we just
as we consider Rob that that that probably did take away,
it's possible that it stimulated him, you know, and enhanced him.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So I don't know, but I mean, I'm not saying
that take away.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I'm not saying that to you know, take away from
anything he did.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I'm just saying, I don't know. You know, if it
you know.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
If sport like football, you know, you out there and
you know, if you're high and you you know, you
just it can help you just go crazy, you know,
out there. So I you know, it could have win
either way. So yeah, it's it's a tough call. And
I'm was bringing up Jared Golf because he had gone
three hundred and eighty three passes without an interception. Now
(20:06):
he's thrown at least one right in each of the
last three games.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
So that throwing in his opener. But yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right because he was he was on the street third
time Long Street. Yeah, yeah, in Ohio. You're on the
couple of Fox sportsuito what up, Nate?
Speaker 11 (20:24):
Hey, guys, one time listener, huge.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Thank you, man, appreciate you.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
The only person really in this conversation with TJ.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
Watt.
Speaker 11 (20:32):
Look at the guy. You have to plan for him
every single game. He I mean, even I think Mike
Tomlin should actually be on the hot seat without this guy.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, I'm not I'm not arguing against t J. Watt,
But wouldn't you say the same thing. Defensive or offenses
have to do the same thing for Michael Parsons, like
playing for him every single game. I think they're playing
for him, just like they're playing for TJ.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Is he gonna do we lose them? I guess so.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But no, Look, TJ is tremendous. There's no doubt about it.
I'm just saying, you know, Rob, you have to you know,
you have to account for both.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Of those, no doubt. Hey, Jola in Dallas, I never
heard that name, Jola. You're on the odd couple, yad
sports radio?
Speaker 7 (21:21):
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Speaker 3 (21:24):
Man, No doubt, But man.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
I'm a tick it back on what y'all saying. Like
Michael Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys just heed to get
serious about his career and then the season, you know,
let the media.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Hype you up.
Speaker 12 (21:36):
But especially with these player podcasts, you know, you haven't
proven anything yet. And you know y'all fell on your
faces or fly on your faces versus the arras on
the right, like, and the season is going on and
you're getting on all these podcasts.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
They need to let that go.
Speaker 12 (21:48):
And you know, I agree with y'all lt has. I mean,
it's not like we don't have YouTube, but can't look
this guy up right.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
He used to jump across the line and grab quarterbacks
by man and throw them down.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
Like we can't look this up. So it's you know,
he just needs to get serious to start winning. You know,
some accolades accumulating, some accolad or start a podcast about
Dak Prescott man because it's like that's crazy. You know,
we needs to talk about that.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
We were talking about that and this rib it is like,
I mean, you're young, you're talking for an hour straight
by yourself. You gonna say something you probably end up regretting,
you know, I mean, it's a that's a lot man,
And again he hasn't won anything yet. And like I said,
I don't want to take money out of his pockets.
(22:34):
I'm sure he's being paid nicely for it, and he's
still in.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
His rookie deal. But you know that's just you.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You almost bound to say something that comes back to
haunt you.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Rob, I think so, And you gotta be real careful
people go to use it against you.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, And like I said, the Kelsey's, they're older, they've won.
Dra mind Draymond saying stuff still, but you know he's won,
so it's like, hey, what you're.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Gonna say to him? He's won multiple championships. A little
different with the young cats.
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What a minute before we get to be honest, I
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Speaker 7 (24:17):
Oh? The tickets was crazy, man, I'm telling you that
it was sold out, but it was a Pittsburgh stadium basically,
you know right, it was terrible towns everywhere. The numbers
was quick. They were won two bands, two twenty one
hundred for a seat in the lower ball how much
trade two thousand dollars? It was crazy. I'm telling you
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to sit in the noose, bleed you face seven.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
That's crazy.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
All right.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I want to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
On basketball, and I'm saying for a bogus product though, right.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Right, all right, let's let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
What do you think about this trade Damian Lillard to Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Ooh, that just shifted everything. That changed everything. You could
say that Milwaukee got a little They didn't. They lost
a little perimeter defense, but they got so much scoring.
And to me, when I look at big three that
have been successful over the history of this game, when
you take the top three players, they all do something different.
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And that's what Milwaukee does. You know, they'll have three
guys that are their stars that do three different things
great and they all could do everything, but three of
them they do different things on a high level. And
you got back in defender with Porters is a good defender.
You got Brook Lopez all NBA defender, and you got Giannis,
(25:37):
you got the rimitary. They're gonna they are going to
be extremely tough in the Eastern Conference and for that
fact of the matter, the NBA period.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And in any way, how about Miami. Of course you
play with the Heat, and people thought that maybe the
Heat thought that they were going to get them because
Dame said that that's all the only place he wanted
to go. Oh, they wouldn't Sweeten the pod. Did they
miss an opportunity here by not going all out to
Good Dame?
Speaker 7 (26:08):
I don't think they missed opportunity. I think that if
they would have went all out, they would have had
to basically mortgage their future and some of their players.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Isn't it about winning the championship? Now? Forget about the
futures now. They can't win a championship with what they have.
They've been there twice.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yeah, But what I was gonna say is you're gonna
have to take some of those pieces that helped you
get there and expend them and say, Okay, you got
to go over here for us to get one piece.
And I don't think that when you look at it.
And I got to give that organization, the Miami Heat,
the organiz that organization, pat Riley, everybody that's over there
involved in that. You got to give them credit because
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they know what they're gonna do. Even when they don't
look like they have enough, they end up in the
NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Well, yeah, but it's about winning.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Eddie winning rob Eddie just applied for the Miami Heat
color at a job we got to take this nonsideration with.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
But he stopped stopping Eddie.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Come on, man, they ain't winning nothing. Even if they
luck on winning, They're not winner in the West. It's
not having to win, God dame, they wouldn't. They don't
have to give up.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
And wait a minute, and Eddie, every time Pat Rowley
ever won, Chris, name all the players he had, magic,
undrafted players.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Y'all could do that. Don't don't discredit Pat what he done. Man,
how I'm just.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Saying he's never won without super game were that great?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
We're not saying that.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I'll tell you Larry Brown did Larry Larry bro Larry
Brown won in two thousand and four. How about that
they beat Shaq and Kobe. Nobody was a superstar, Chris,
Would you admit that the two thousand and four Pistons
they were good, very good players, but no superstars.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
So you're telling me at that time Wallace wasn't.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
No, he was not, he was not. They were superstars,
they were, they were starting, but they weren't shocking Kobe.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
Chris, you're not gonna break that. I gotta break that
down real quick.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
You're telling me he was not a superstar.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
No, you're telling me Ben Wallace, who was in a
no wasn't a superstar. Yes, in his position and his.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Role, Yes, undrafted, No, no, you tell me. And we
didn't say they were good. Please said they were really good.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
They weren't.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
They were they on the level of shacking Kobe?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
They were all No, But yeah, we all know they wasn't. No,
we know they're not all They weren't all time great
superstars aren't doesn't equal all time great, all time great.
I get that they were superstars in that year.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
They were stars. They were stars. They were I wouldn't
say superstars. But Eddie, here's what we're saying. We're not
saying pat Riley isn't a great executive and coaching all that.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
What we're saying is all this talk about heat.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Culture, the little engine that could get further than anybody expects.
Pat Riley should know as well as anybody, because he,
for all, as much as he's done with these teams
that didn't have enough talent, maybe got them a little
further than people expected, and all that one more games
in the regular season. Because he did get beat a
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lot of times in the playoffs by lower seeds, particularly
the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Don't remember that he was number one seed.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
In Knicks used to always beat him.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But our point is this, Eddie pat Riley, the only
times he won the Grand Prize, the NBA title was
when he had super duper all time greats. And so
we're saying it's cute to get to the finals and
get waxed.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Oh they won the East. Who expected that?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But if you want to win it all, pat Riley
knows as well as anybody you better go get some
big dogs.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
And they didn't do it. That's what we say.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Dame Lillard, they give up other pieces and who they got,
Caleb Martin Tyler. I want to know this, What was
there three that y'all was thinking that we're gonna win
the championship.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
No, they would have a better chance with Dame, Jimmy
Butler and Bay.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
They couldn't score last year, ed even win in the
series against Denburg. That was the issue.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
I mean, nobody could score the whole playoffs against Denver.
If you really want to break it down, Denver was
locking up Denver. Did they think Denver was a great
team last year? And so to sit back and be
like man, if Dame would have just went there, you
give up some of these ancillary players that gotta come in. Yeah,
for Phil, you're gonna do that. And then but I
don't think that that's enough though, it's not enough. Let
(30:43):
me say this. Can we say this, Bam, Jimmy and
Dave is not Lebron, d Wade and Christmas. Okay, that's
all I'm trying to say. So, then think about the
guys that was coming off the bench with those three
to win their back to back championship. You gotta have
some heat. You giving up pun intended. But if you
gotta have some things that's gonna be out there giving
(31:03):
you some doing damage offensively and defensively, you're gonna lose
some of that with that trade with Dame. It's all
I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So right now, what are they their chances of getting
out of the East, Like, where would you rank them
in the East right now?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Who but Miami?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Oh Miami, man, you thought you could never. I mean
they're getting out of the East, like coming out of
the East, I think Miami.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I mean I think ahead of them Boston right now.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
I would say five five five five teams. I'll give
them five teams ahead of them, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And if they had traded for Dame, I don't think
you'd be saying that he obviously wouldn't be in Milwaukee either.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
That's all I would think. I don't think that if
I would say maybe that they possibly, well, it depends
on who they have. And I still think that Boston
is a hell of a team that people.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I agree if Boston, would you like to see quickly
we got a minute Drew a holiday. He's gonna like
to get traded from Portland. I love him in Boston.
There's a lot of time go and staying other. Yeah,
what what you think? That's something they should go ahead
and do.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
It. Might it might strap you a little bit, it
might put you know. I would go for it because.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
You can get then you know, maybe you you would
have to.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Put in Brogg. Then you would have to either out
Horford and uh, you know, draft picks or if not Portford,
then you have to put in Rob Williams and some
draft picks, maybe Peyton Frichards, things like that. I would
I would flirt with that. I would. I would look
to try to do that because I feel like, now
you have three guys, you have a true point guard
out on the court that really could defend. He's the
(32:40):
versus the defender. Could event multiple uh uh players out
on the court, and he makes plays, he knocks down
shots will open up to the floor for all of
those other guys. I would try to push for that.
But if it does, if it doesn't make sense at
the end, So you got to always think about the future.
Now that you've got to think about the future as
well as you think about right now. Now it doesn't
(33:00):
make sense in the future, and then you know you
have to pass.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All right, that is our man e house.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
He knows me and letting him get away with just
saying any old thing up in here.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Uh, it's all in frony something watching you know what
the problem is. You'll been watching Winter Time and y'all
don't like how pat body had to.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Hey, hey, I say this. I wish they wouldn't have
canceled it.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
I was enjoying it that it's a great show.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, man, I was.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'm upset that they stopped it after you know, you
know it's over now.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
It was really Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I don't know if you finished the second season yet.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
But it's this is it. But I agree, I've been
really enjoying it.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
How much more the story kill could they give us?
We all know what happened?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yes, yeah, all right, they did a good job with
it though. All right, Eddie House, great stuff.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Man, We appreciate take care of gods.
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Speaker 3 (34:26):
We saw Ronald Lacuna becoming the first player in baseball
history with the forty seventy club, the forty home runs
and seventy stolen bases. I'm going to push back and
pooh pooh it wow, run Ronald Leacunya's forty seventy club.
Chris reminds me of breast implants. They look great, but
(34:50):
they don't feel real. Come on, he's sliding in the
pizza boxes. Then you can't de pitch, you can't throw
over the first base. But matter of a couple of
times before he can't do it anymore. It's for gayzy.
You know that, Chris. It doesn't feel right. There's a look.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
About that fake breast.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I'm just saying they look good, but yeah, they don't
feel good, Chris.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
You never felt fake press before.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
Never?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
All right, Well, look at Ronald Locune's forty seventy. That's
what it feels like. Look, we've talked about it.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I hear you.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
It is different. It's not only that the base is
so big.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
And look, Rob, we're talking about split second plays. Bam
bam plays right, bang bang plays all the time at
the base hitch or whatever makes a difference, Right, I mean,
I give you that Chris, the best that's ever been,
can only.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Throw over twice that might be even bigger than the base.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Rob, Can I give you another one this year? Trey
Turner from the Phillies. Chris is perfect this year. He's
like one of the fastest guys in baseballs. Twenty nine
for twenty nine. You gave him an advantage. Who goes
twenty nine for twenty nine for stolen bases.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Here's the one pushback I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
You're legitim he's a great player. I'm not trying to
say that Akunya is not a great player.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
What I am all I'll say is this, Ricky Henderson,
the greatest man ever in stealing bases, never hit rob
more than twenty eight home runs.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Lou Brock another Hall of Famer who was an awesome
bass stealer, he never hit more than twenty one home runs.
Vince Coleman, another all time great bass stealer, wasn't an
all time great player, but you know it was good,
made a few All Star teams.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
He never hit more than six home runs in the season.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Right, So what I'll say is that nation of speed
and power is unique.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I'll get you. Gotta give him that.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I'll give him. I'll give him that, Chris, But the
best that anybody ever did was forty three? Was it
forty three home runs and forty who forty somebody had
forty one? Was it the forty one and forty three?
That was the best forty club? Right? But but not
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forty seventy, you know what I mean? Like, that's all
I'm saying, like, who's a.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Little I want to see who that was in the
forty forty club.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Rob g Ha, you got what?
Speaker 6 (37:38):
What?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Forty?
Speaker 9 (37:39):
There were four guys in the forty forty club before
this season, yep, eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Jose Canseco forty two.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Forty He not in the that's impressive that he stole
forty bases, all right, ninety six, Barry Bonds forty two,
forty A Rod ninety eight, forty two, forty.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Was still in bases like that.
Speaker 9 (37:57):
Wow, two thousand and six, Alfonso Soriano forty six, forty one,
and now.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Twenty twenty three, this one doesn't really belong.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Ronald le Couya Junior forty one, seventy it's forty one
and seven.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
What was the cunias because obviously this is the first
year I'm gonna look it up now, first year that
they you know, they obviously expanded the bases.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
What was the most he had? Twenty nine? What is
his number?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
His most stolen bases in a season before this one
was thirty seven, So that that makes it a little better.
Ride back in twenty nineteen he stole thirty seven, hit
forty one homers in thirty seven steals so and he
led the league that year. I hear you, I mean you,
(38:45):
you just can't. It's like if they took three yards
three meters off the one hundred meters dive and then you
break the record, and it's like, no, I.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Mean it's a little different. I ain't I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
And the Troit Turner thing, it's this speaks speaks Volumes
Chris twenty nine for twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Right right, all right, we got an hour left, y'all
know what to do locket add couple.
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Eddie House joins us at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The NBA champion on lots to get into with him,
obviously with the big Damian Lillard trade. Rob, but first
let's go to the NFL. It is, of course that
time of year and Micah Parsons, Rob one of the
great defenders in the league today two fantastic games to
(01:21):
start the season, and I actually thought through the first
two games of the year he was the MVP. And
that's obviously early, but you know, I thought he was
the best player in football through those first two games.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Obviously, now that wouldn't be the case to a toungue.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Viola would be the number one guy right now in
the MVP race, and Michaeh wouldn't be that close because
he didn't dazzle, to say the least in the third game,
a loss to the mediocre at best Arizona Cardinals. But
rob a lot of people I've mentioned him and Lawrence
(01:59):
Taylor before, or a lot of people really started comparing
them recently, and Bill Belichick has talked about that here he.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Is comparing players like that. It's not really I would
just say, like, I wouldn't put anybody ahead of Lawrence
Taylor period. No, maybe I'm prejudiced, but I mean I
saw that guy every day for over a decade, and
he tilted the field for a decade. So until somebody
does that, and there's a lot of great players, I'm
not taking any away from anybody else. There's a lot
(02:28):
of great players that have been in this league that
are in this league. But personally, I'm not putting anybody
out of Lawrence Taylor, not.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yet, Chris, Chris. I'm I'm with Bill Belichick and and
I had the pleasure. I was a young reporter in
New York, Chris, and I covered Lawrence Taylor. I saw
it up close, yep. I was at Giants Stadium, the
you know, the old Giants stadium and covered those games.
(02:55):
Lawrence Taylor was a wrecking machine. And that is no
diss to Micah. You know what I mean, Chris. I'm
not saying he can't play or he's not a tremendous
football player, but I'm sorry Lawrence Taylor. And Bill Belichick
said it. He tilted the field, Chris. He tilted the field.
(03:17):
And he was one of those guys that you had
to know where he was on the field, like, yeah,
don't I don't care who was playing, who was quarterback,
any other position. Lawrence Taylor was a monster, Chris. And
when you look at Michael Parsons, here's a problem. There
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are other guys Chris, who have, you know, even better
numbers than him. He's not even like the best pass
rusher since he's been in the League, you know what
I mean, like, like, so how can we I know
it's great because when he first came on the scene,
he was all over the place and people were like,
how do you fend this guy? And his presence. Chris
(04:03):
was electric on the When you watch the game, correct
like there he.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Is, Micah, Yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Electric, there he is. He got through again. Oh my god,
who can They can't block him? Like it felt like that.
But if you pull a curtain back on some other
players during this time, how about T J. Watt. Chris
in eight less games, three and a half more sacks,
(04:31):
one more fumble recovery, one more forced fumble, same number
of defensive touchdowns, and one less quarterback hit. He was
a Defensive Player of the Year. Micah does not have that.
He hadn't done it yet. So there are other players
who you could put ahead of him already at this point.
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So it hasn't been like the meteoric start to wear.
He's got all those things, like like Patrick Mahomes is
one of those guys who has all those things. Chris
from the very beginning, the MVP, the Super Bowl, he
has a hardware right and Michael Parson just doesn't have that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yet, Well, look, I certainly agree with Bill Belichick saying
you don't put anybody ahead of LT.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
LT is rob not only.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I think virtually everybody says the greatest defensive player ever.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
He's in the discussion for the greatest football player EF.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
He's got to be up there in the top three.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'm white.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That doesn't put Tom Brady. I think Tom Brady's the
best quarterback ever. I think Tom Brady ever say the
best football player. But LT's in that discussion, and I,
in a fairness to people, I don't think anybody in
rob G speak up. If you can think of someone,
I don't think anybody's put him Micah ahead of LT. No,
(05:55):
but just that he's in that conversation, I think yeah.
But but but Belichick did. Now, I don't know if
he was being strategic, But you said I wouldn't put
anybody ahead of LT. He didn't say I wouldn't put
anybody in the conversation with Lawrence Taylor, I wouldn't put
anybody on the same level as Lawrence Taylor. He didn't
(06:15):
say the comparisons are ridiculous. He just said I wouldn't
put anybody ahead, which everybody would agree with that, here's
the one pushback I have on your cause you kind
of said the numbers you know you got guys.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I mean Nick Bosa was defensive player to your last year.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Watt's numbers are better than Micah's.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It is a lot. I mean, Micah's got good numbers too,
but it is a lot of just watching the game.
And I know you watch him as well, so I'm
not you know, I'm not saying you don't, but it's
watching Micah and what he's doing on the field again,
particularly in those first two games where he was He's
(06:58):
lining up on so many different parts of the field,
the line of scrimmage, and he is just putting so
much pressure on the.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Quarterbacks, whether he sacks or not.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
The havoc he was reeking and how he was making
the offense have to account for him. That is what
had people like, my goodness, this looks like Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And like I said, it's not just about numbers.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Lawrence Taylor only led the league in sacks once one time,
and he only led the league.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That was the only category he ever led the league in.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
He had one touchdown one year his second year that
was tied for the most by defensive player, but he
never led the league and you know, fumbles recovered, fumbles forced,
or you know anything, I mean, fumblespots they didn't keep
it at that time, but fumbles.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
He didn't lead the league in any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
His first two years robbed nine and a half, saxes,
first year, seven and a half, his second year nine
is third year, you know, but he was defensive Player
of the Year his first two years.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
So again it was about people just.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Looking similar to Micah, people just looking at the impact
he was having on the game, not just how many
sacks he got and things like that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I get that, but the heart. But the same thing, Chris,
if you if you look at Micah without the and
saying he didn't have, you know, the big numbers and
looking at him.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And he does have good night, No saxes first year,
thirteen and a half last year.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
But winning defensive player of the Year is what separates
the two. You know, you're talking about it for second
both years. Yeah, the first two years. And the other
thing too is obviously the Giants won two Super Bowls
with LT there, and that was a big part of
it and their defense back then Chris was that MONTI.
That was the team that Phil Simms and they won
with Jeff Hostedler, Right, it didn't matter that quarter if
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Phil Sims won some big time four hundred yard pass
or anything. You know, he was a good quarterback, one
great and Jeff Hosteler filled in when he was hurt
and they won two Super Bowls. Their defense was what
that team was all about. Yeah, no, no question. And
I think too and Rob, if I'm not.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Mistaken, and this is funny, but you know it's you
just gotta you have to understand and you'll get what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Someone posted.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I believe because it was talked about at my job,
the TV show. First things First, you know, obviously Joe
Namath was critical of Zach Wilson, and someone posted their numbers,
and as you might imagine, Rob, Zach Wilson's were rivaling
(09:58):
Joe names. Okay, but obviously you can't put Zach Wilson
in the same sentence as Joe names.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But it's a different right, all time great and all that, and.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Joe Namath has some things, Chris, when you talk about it,
I'm not here to say Joe Namath was the greatest
quarterback on anything.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He was a legit Hall of Fame and first to
throw for four thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
They weren't throwing the football like that. You know, people
can say whatever they want four thousand back then, Chris,
that was a lot of yards that he threw four
oh got and he won a Super Bowl against the
Baltimore Colts, who one of the greatest football teams. And
at that time, Chris right in NFL history with Don Shula,
(10:41):
who's the head coach of that team.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, he looked he led the AFL twice in passing yards,
led the NFL once, led the NFL in passing touchdowns.
This is Joe Namath I'm talking about, led the league's
total three times in yards per game like he was.
You know, so at that time you can't. My point
is you can't just look at the numbers because quarterbacks
(11:05):
and receivers were not protected like they are today. So
the numbers are gonna be much better today. Nor did
they throw it as much. Even Nameath throwing for four
thousand yards, he didn't throw it nearly as much as
quarterbacks do today.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So that's something. And I brought that up because it's
similar with sacks.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Rob Now Lawrence Taylor had twenty sacks the year he
won they won the Super Bowl in eighty five or
eighty six, But the eighty five season he had twenty
and a half sacks to lead the league. That was
his third Defensive Player of the Year award. That's the
year he won the MVP. Last defensive player to do it.
(11:44):
Guys should get I don't know if it was Rob
Woodson who mentioned it on our show where I heard
it somewhere else, Rob, but he's right.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Guys should get more sacks today because they.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Put it so much to the ball. And that's what
I was gonna say. Chris lt having twenty and a
half sacks in nineteen eighty six, that might be thirty
five sacks today because he knows that, you know what
I mean? Because think about that they were running the ball.
They're running backs. You didn't know was a pass every
down or three out of four downs. That's an incredible number,
(12:15):
just you know, running running, Just forget about somebody running
by you.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Quarterback every no doubt, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So you just need to keep that in mind as
you look, you know, I'm talking to the listeners. As
you look at some of these stats, don't rush out
Remember the person rushed out there a few years ago,
rob when Ryan Fitzpatrick was in one of his fitsmagic.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Runs for three or four Gamesoy turned back into a pump.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right, and they said he's got more career touchdown passes
than Troy Aikman. I mean, it ended up looking foolish
because you have to understand the context. It's like saying
Lebron James has more three pointers made than Larry Bird.
He's a better three point shooter. You gotta understand the
con text. And so it's the same with sacks. It's
(13:03):
not sacks is probably not quite as pronounced as you
know the quarterback stats and the differences. But just be
aware of that when you look at stat numbers for sacks,
because they they should. There's so many more opportunities now
to sack the quarterback than there used to be, So.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Just keep that in mind.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
But yeah, look, I think Micah Is reminds a lot
of it. I think the best way to say it, Robbie,
he reminds a lot of people of Lawrence Taylor. Now
he's got a long way to go before he can
ever be really, you know, compared to Lawrence Taylor. Like
you said, Lawrence has three Defensive Player of the Years
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two that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
The first two years he did that.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You know, this is, like I said, the best player
defensively ever, last defensive player to win an MVP. And
so you just got to keep that in mind. But Micah,
look it'll be interesting to watch you. Let me throw
this out to you. You're still just him, Chris, not
at all.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Let me throw this out to you, and quickly because
we're gonna get to the listeners.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I've said, Mike has gotta be careful with that podcast. Look,
I don't want to get in his pockets. Let him
make his money, let him do his podcast.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But Rob, when you look at most of the players
that do, the current players that are doing.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
You have a lot of retired players, obviously, but the.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Current players for the most part. I might be missing
the young and out there. But Jason and Travis Kelsey
veterans who've won championships. Draymond Green veteran who won a champion, championships,
Paul George and Patrick Beverley not not championship, they haven't won,
but they're veterans, longtime veterans. You don't see a ton
(14:50):
of just young guys.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
And my point is.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
He could say, he can say a lot of stuff
that could come back to haunt team or be bulletin
board material for other teams.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Because you're just a young guy. You're running off.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Of the mouth, and you have not yet delivered a ring,
and so I just think they gotta be careful with that.
All right, it's the eye couple Chris and Rob. Rob
Parker did not want to address that. I don't know,
that's that's odd because he loves talking about players having podcasts.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And being I just we're just so tight on time, Chris,
So I didn't want to go crazy on it. But
I'm with you on you know, I'm you know, I
got an hour on players not doing especially when they're playing.
I just think, play, dude, there's plenty of time for
you to do that stuff, Chris. Play. You should play,
focusing on playing. So I don't want to be too late.
(15:44):
I want the callers, the listeners to be able to
get in. That's why I didn't going to get.
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ninety nine. On Fox, Michael Parsons Lawrence Taylor. The comparisons
are out there. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Packers already up Chris three nothing with a field goal
after a pick by Jared Goff? What is that? One
pick at each of the first three games this.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Year for golf?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, he yeah, I'm not sure that's what I thought,
but it said that said that he had a pick.
All right, Tony in DC, you're on the odd couple
of Fox portraited. What up, Tony? What's up?
Speaker 10 (17:45):
Fellers?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
How are you?
Speaker 10 (17:47):
I'm gonna go to raw Parker bag on this one?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
No way?
Speaker 9 (17:51):
No.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
How is Michael Parson's in the same centers with Lawrence Taylor.
And I'm a diehard Cowboys fan, and I will tell
you Lawrence Taylor is the best football player I've ever
seen in my life.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Period.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
Every left tackle should have a picture of Lawrence Taylor.
In their basement and explain to their kids, this is man.
This is the reason why we live like we live
because of this man.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Okay, that's true.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That became a huge, hugely important position because of Lawrence Taylor,
no doubt.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
And I will say this Rob, You know, New York
in the eighties was wild. Like I was telling Rob G,
I don't even think we saw the best of Lawrence
Taylor because of his off the field issues. If he
was like really laser focus on the game, this man
might have over two hundred and fifty sacks that Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
All the stuff that he went through, Dad, you used
to have to go get him Chris out of crackhouses.
There's all kinds of stuff. He was a mess. He
was a mess. If he imagine how he just played
football and was clean and what could have been.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, maybe I should just be thankful. Michael is just
doing a podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I just say this guy about that.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
I don't want to cut you off, but could you
make a case that we got the better version of
LTA because he was.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I didn't really want to say that, but it's possible.
I mean, you know, it's like.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Or it may have gone either way, or it may
not have mattered. I mean, you know, I don't I
don't know, but that's possible. Rob g Okay, we just
as we consider Rob that that that probably did take away,
it's possible that it stimulated him, you know, and enhanced him.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So I don't know, but I mean, I'm not saying
that take away.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I'm not saying that to you know, take away from
anything he did.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I'm just saying, I don't know. You know, if it
you know.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
If sport like football, you know, you out there and
you know, if you're high and you you know, you
just it can help you just go crazy, you know,
out there. So I you know, it could have win
either way. So yeah, it's it's a tough call. And
I'm was bringing up Jared Golf because he had gone
three hundred and eighty three passes without an interception. Now
(20:06):
he's thrown at least one right in each of the
last three games.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
So that throwing in his opener. But yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right because he was he was on the street third
time Long Street. Yeah, yeah, in Ohio. You're on the
couple of Fox sportsuito what up, Nate?
Speaker 11 (20:24):
Hey, guys, one time listener, huge.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Thank you, man, appreciate you.
Speaker 11 (20:29):
The only person really in this conversation with TJ.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
Watt.
Speaker 11 (20:32):
Look at the guy. You have to plan for him
every single game. He I mean, even I think Mike
Tomlin should actually be on the hot seat without this guy.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, I'm not I'm not arguing against t J. Watt,
But wouldn't you say the same thing. Defensive or offenses
have to do the same thing for Michael Parsons, like
playing for him every single game. I think they're playing
for him, just like they're playing for TJ.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Is he gonna do we lose them? I guess so.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But no, Look, TJ is tremendous. There's no doubt about it.
I'm just saying, you know, Rob, you have to you know,
you have to account for both.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Of those, no doubt. Hey, Jola in Dallas, I never
heard that name, Jola. You're on the odd couple, yad
sports radio?
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Man, How are you going well? Y'all? Offle's other airways?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Man, No doubt, But man.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
I'm a tick it back on what y'all saying. Like
Michael Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys just heed to get
serious about his career and then the season, you know,
let the media.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Hype you up.
Speaker 12 (21:36):
But especially with these player podcasts, you know, you haven't
proven anything yet. And you know y'all fell on your
faces or fly on your faces versus the arras on
the right, like, and the season is going on and
you're getting on all these podcasts.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
They need to let that go.
Speaker 12 (21:48):
And you know, I agree with y'all lt has. I mean,
it's not like we don't have YouTube, but can't look
this guy up right.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
He used to jump across the line and grab quarterbacks
by man and throw them down.
Speaker 12 (22:00):
Like we can't look this up. So it's you know,
he just needs to get serious to start winning. You know,
some accolades accumulating, some accolad or start a podcast about
Dak Prescott man because it's like that's crazy. You know,
we needs to talk about that.
Speaker 11 (22:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
We were talking about that and this rib it is like,
I mean, you're young, you're talking for an hour straight
by yourself. You gonna say something you probably end up regretting,
you know, I mean, it's a that's a lot man,
And again he hasn't won anything yet. And like I said,
I don't want to take money out of his pockets.
(22:34):
I'm sure he's being paid nicely for it, and he's
still in.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
His rookie deal. But you know that's just you.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You almost bound to say something that comes back to
haunt you.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Rob, I think so, And you gotta be real careful
people go to use it against you.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, And like I said, the Kelsey's, they're older, they've won.
Dra mind Draymond saying stuff still, but you know he's won,
so it's like, hey, what you're.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Gonna say to him? He's won multiple championships. A little
different with the young cats.
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He's an NBA champion.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst R Mayor Eddie House e House.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
What a show was that?
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Hey, it's almost a time. I can't wait, man, I
cannot wait. It almost that time for hoops season.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
What a minute before we get to be honest, I
thought you were talking about the baseball player. Yes, on
the Raiders.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
Playoffs is cool, but this whose seats has got real funky,
real quick?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
All right, Well let me ask you about the Raiders
real quick before we get into all the basketballs. Yes,
because he went to the Raiders. He was not too
happy about that TVD How much would a ticket wouldn't be?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Oh? The tickets was crazy, man, I'm telling you that
it was sold out, but it was a Pittsburgh stadium basically,
you know right, it was terrible towns everywhere. The numbers
was quick. They were won two bands, two twenty one
hundred for a seat in the lower ball how much
trade two thousand dollars? It was crazy. I'm telling you
(24:38):
to sit in the noose, bleed you face seven.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
That's crazy.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
All right.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I want to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
On basketball, and I'm saying for a bogus product though, right.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Right, all right, let's let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
What do you think about this trade Damian Lillard to Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Ooh, that just shifted everything. That changed everything. You could
say that Milwaukee got a little They didn't. They lost
a little perimeter defense, but they got so much scoring.
And to me, when I look at big three that
have been successful over the history of this game, when
you take the top three players, they all do something different.
(25:15):
And that's what Milwaukee does. You know, they'll have three
guys that are their stars that do three different things
great and they all could do everything, but three of
them they do different things on a high level. And
you got back in defender with Porters is a good defender.
You got Brook Lopez all NBA defender, and you got Giannis,
(25:37):
you got the rimitary. They're gonna they are going to
be extremely tough in the Eastern Conference and for that
fact of the matter, the NBA period.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And in any way, how about Miami. Of course you
play with the Heat, and people thought that maybe the
Heat thought that they were going to get them because
Dame said that that's all the only place he wanted
to go. Oh, they wouldn't Sweeten the pod. Did they
miss an opportunity here by not going all out to
Good Dame?
Speaker 7 (26:08):
I don't think they missed opportunity. I think that if
they would have went all out, they would have had
to basically mortgage their future and some of their players.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Isn't it about winning the championship? Now? Forget about the
futures now. They can't win a championship with what they have.
They've been there twice.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yeah, But what I was gonna say is you're gonna
have to take some of those pieces that helped you
get there and expend them and say, Okay, you got
to go over here for us to get one piece.
And I don't think that when you look at it.
And I got to give that organization, the Miami Heat,
the organiz that organization, pat Riley, everybody that's over there
involved in that. You got to give them credit because
(26:45):
they know what they're gonna do. Even when they don't
look like they have enough, they end up in the
NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Well, yeah, but it's about winning.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Eddie winning rob Eddie just applied for the Miami Heat
color at a job we got to take this nonsideration with.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
But he stopped stopping Eddie.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Come on, man, they ain't winning nothing. Even if they
luck on winning, They're not winner in the West. It's
not having to win, God dame, they wouldn't. They don't
have to give up.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
And wait a minute, and Eddie, every time Pat Rowley
ever won, Chris, name all the players he had, magic,
undrafted players.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Y'all could do that. Don't don't discredit Pat what he done. Man,
how I'm just.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Saying he's never won without super game were that great?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
We're not saying that.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I'll tell you Larry Brown did Larry Larry bro Larry
Brown won in two thousand and four. How about that
they beat Shaq and Kobe. Nobody was a superstar, Chris,
Would you admit that the two thousand and four Pistons
they were good, very good players, but no superstars.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
So you're telling me at that time Wallace wasn't.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
No, he was not, he was not. They were superstars,
they were, they were starting, but they weren't shocking Kobe.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
Chris, you're not gonna break that. I gotta break that
down real quick.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
You're telling me he was not a superstar.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
No, you're telling me Ben Wallace, who was in a
no wasn't a superstar. Yes, in his position and his.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Role, Yes, undrafted, No, no, you tell me. And we
didn't say they were good. Please said they were really good.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
They weren't.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
They were they on the level of shacking Kobe?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
They were all No, But yeah, we all know they wasn't. No,
we know they're not all They weren't all time great
superstars aren't doesn't equal all time great, all time great.
I get that they were superstars in that year.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
They were stars. They were stars. They were I wouldn't
say superstars. But Eddie, here's what we're saying. We're not
saying pat Riley isn't a great executive and coaching all that.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
What we're saying is all this talk about heat.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Culture, the little engine that could get further than anybody expects.
Pat Riley should know as well as anybody, because he,
for all, as much as he's done with these teams
that didn't have enough talent, maybe got them a little
further than people expected, and all that one more games
in the regular season. Because he did get beat a
(29:17):
lot of times in the playoffs by lower seeds, particularly
the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Don't remember that he was number one seed.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
In Knicks used to always beat him.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
But our point is this, Eddie pat Riley, the only
times he won the Grand Prize, the NBA title was
when he had super duper all time greats. And so
we're saying it's cute to get to the finals and
get waxed.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Oh they won the East. Who expected that?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But if you want to win it all, pat Riley
knows as well as anybody you better go get some
big dogs.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
And they didn't do it. That's what we say.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Dame Lillard, they give up other pieces and who they got,
Caleb Martin Tyler. I want to know this, What was
there three that y'all was thinking that we're gonna win
the championship.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
No, they would have a better chance with Dame, Jimmy
Butler and Bay.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
They couldn't score last year, ed even win in the
series against Denburg. That was the issue.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
I mean, nobody could score the whole playoffs against Denver.
If you really want to break it down, Denver was
locking up Denver. Did they think Denver was a great
team last year? And so to sit back and be
like man, if Dame would have just went there, you
give up some of these ancillary players that gotta come in. Yeah,
for Phil, you're gonna do that. And then but I
don't think that that's enough though, it's not enough. Let
(30:43):
me say this. Can we say this, Bam, Jimmy and
Dave is not Lebron, d Wade and Christmas. Okay, that's
all I'm trying to say. So, then think about the
guys that was coming off the bench with those three
to win their back to back championship. You gotta have
some heat. You giving up pun intended. But if you
gotta have some things that's gonna be out there giving
(31:03):
you some doing damage offensively and defensively, you're gonna lose
some of that with that trade with Dame. It's all
I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So right now, what are they their chances of getting
out of the East, Like, where would you rank them
in the East right now?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Who but Miami?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Oh Miami, man, you thought you could never. I mean
they're getting out of the East, like coming out of
the East, I think Miami.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I mean I think ahead of them Boston right now.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
I would say five five five five teams. I'll give
them five teams ahead of them, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And if they had traded for Dame, I don't think
you'd be saying that he obviously wouldn't be in Milwaukee either.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
That's all I would think. I don't think that if
I would say maybe that they possibly, well, it depends
on who they have. And I still think that Boston
is a hell of a team that people.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I agree if Boston, would you like to see quickly
we got a minute Drew a holiday. He's gonna like
to get traded from Portland. I love him in Boston.
There's a lot of time go and staying other. Yeah,
what what you think? That's something they should go ahead
and do.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
It. Might it might strap you a little bit, it
might put you know. I would go for it because.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
You can get then you know, maybe you you would
have to.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Put in Brogg. Then you would have to either out
Horford and uh, you know, draft picks or if not Portford,
then you have to put in Rob Williams and some
draft picks, maybe Peyton Frichards, things like that. I would
I would flirt with that. I would. I would look
to try to do that because I feel like, now
you have three guys, you have a true point guard
out on the court that really could defend. He's the
(32:40):
versus the defender. Could event multiple uh uh players out
on the court, and he makes plays, he knocks down
shots will open up to the floor for all of
those other guys. I would try to push for that.
But if it does, if it doesn't make sense at
the end, So you got to always think about the future.
Now that you've got to think about the future as
well as you think about right now. Now it doesn't
(33:00):
make sense in the future, and then you know you
have to pass.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All right, that is our man e house.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
He knows me and letting him get away with just
saying any old thing up in here.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Uh, it's all in frony something watching you know what
the problem is. You'll been watching Winter Time and y'all
don't like how pat body had to.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Hey, hey, I say this. I wish they wouldn't have
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I don't know if you finished the second season yet.
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really enjoying it.
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We all know what happened?
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want to spit, no doubt, Chris.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
We saw Ronald Lacuna becoming the first player in baseball
history with the forty seventy club, the forty home runs
and seventy stolen bases. I'm going to push back and
pooh pooh it wow, run Ronald Leacunya's forty seventy club.
Chris reminds me of breast implants. They look great, but
(34:50):
they don't feel real. Come on, he's sliding in the
pizza boxes. Then you can't de pitch, you can't throw
over the first base. But matter of a couple of
times before he can't do it anymore. It's for gayzy.
You know that, Chris. It doesn't feel right. There's a look.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
About that fake breast.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I'm just saying they look good, but yeah, they don't
feel good, Chris.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
You never felt fake press before.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
Never?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
All right, Well, look at Ronald Locune's forty seventy. That's
what it feels like. Look, we've talked about it.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I hear you.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
It is different. It's not only that the base is
so big.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
And look, Rob, we're talking about split second plays. Bam
bam plays right, bang bang plays all the time at
the base hitch or whatever makes a difference, Right, I mean,
I give you that Chris, the best that's ever been,
can only.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Throw over twice that might be even bigger than the base.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Rob, Can I give you another one this year? Trey
Turner from the Phillies. Chris is perfect this year. He's
like one of the fastest guys in baseballs. Twenty nine
for twenty nine. You gave him an advantage. Who goes
twenty nine for twenty nine for stolen bases.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Here's the one pushback I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
You're legitim he's a great player. I'm not trying to
say that Akunya is not a great player.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
What I am all I'll say is this, Ricky Henderson,
the greatest man ever in stealing bases, never hit rob
more than twenty eight home runs.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Lou Brock another Hall of Famer who was an awesome
bass stealer, he never hit more than twenty one home runs.
Vince Coleman, another all time great bass stealer, wasn't an
all time great player, but you know it was good,
made a few All Star teams.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
He never hit more than six home runs in the season.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Right, So what I'll say is that nation of speed
and power is unique.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I'll get you. Gotta give him that.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I'll give him. I'll give him that, Chris, But the
best that anybody ever did was forty three? Was it
forty three home runs and forty who forty somebody had
forty one? Was it the forty one and forty three?
That was the best forty club? Right? But but not
(37:27):
forty seventy, you know what I mean? Like, that's all
I'm saying, like, who's a.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Little I want to see who that was in the
forty forty club.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Rob g Ha, you got what?
Speaker 6 (37:38):
What?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Forty?
Speaker 9 (37:39):
There were four guys in the forty forty club before
this season, yep, eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Jose Canseco forty two.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Forty He not in the that's impressive that he stole
forty bases, all right, ninety six, Barry Bonds forty two,
forty A Rod ninety eight, forty two, forty.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Was still in bases like that.
Speaker 9 (37:57):
Wow, two thousand and six, Alfonso Soriano forty six, forty one,
and now.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Twenty twenty three, this one doesn't really belong.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Ronald le Couya Junior forty one, seventy it's forty one
and seven.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
What was the cunias because obviously this is the first
year I'm gonna look it up now, first year that
they you know, they obviously expanded the bases.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
What was the most he had? Twenty nine? What is
his number?
Speaker 1 (38:24):
His most stolen bases in a season before this one
was thirty seven, So that that makes it a little better.
Ride back in twenty nineteen he stole thirty seven, hit
forty one homers in thirty seven steals so and he
led the league that year. I hear you, I mean you,
(38:45):
you just can't. It's like if they took three yards
three meters off the one hundred meters dive and then you
break the record, and it's like, no, I.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Mean it's a little different. I ain't I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
And the Troit Turner thing, it's this speaks speaks Volumes
Chris twenty nine for twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Right right, all right, we got an hour left, y'all
know what to do locket add couple.
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