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November 29, 2010 • 16 mins

We all know what cellulite is, but have you ever wondered where that dreaded dimpled skin comes from? And why it affects women more than men? In this episode, Molly and Cristen investigate the causes of cellulite and possible cures for the condition.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.
It's ready. Are you welcome to stump Mom never told
you from house top boards dot com. Hello, and welcome
to the podcast. This is spelling, and I'm Kristen. Kristen.

(00:20):
If I were to offer you the choice between two
delicious food yes, an orange or a bowl of cottage cheese,
you said delicious food, Sarah, people who find both things
very delicious. Which one will you take? I would absolutely
choose the orange. Every now and then, when I'm grocery shopping,

(00:40):
I'm in the dairy section and I have this notion,
this little voice in my head that pops up and says, hey, Kristen,
you know what you haven't eat in a while? And
I say what, voice in my head? And the voice
in my head responds cottage cheese. And so I get
some cottage cheesecause I think it's a good idea that
somehow I'm going to eat the cottage cheese. It's one time.
Is gonna be so good because I've seen people enjoy

(01:03):
cottage cheese. This is a good source of protein. Never happens,
it's always a fail. So I would take the orange. Well, Kristen,
if you would listen more closely to my question, I
did not offer you those two foods to eat. I'm
talking about what they're gonna look like on your skin. Okay.
That brings us to the topic of the day, which

(01:24):
is cellulite. And cellulite is often compared to an orange peel,
those little, you know, bumps, bumpy orange peel, or it's
compared to cottage cheese those you know, bigger bumps and
chunks and dimples, bumps and chunks and uh so, yeah,
if you replay you, I was very careful not to
offer them to you to eat, but for your skin.

(01:46):
But apparently I just assumed that it is there before
the questions I do ask you about our things we're
going to eat. Yeah, there is a This is coming
from a cellulite scale that was published in the Journal
of the European Academy of Dermatology in vinero Ology, and
the scale breaks down cellulite severity by five different measures.

(02:09):
So yeah, on one end, the mild and you've got
the orange peel. So you made the right choice. It
was going to be on your skin. Yeah yeah, So
on the one end you've got the orange peel. But
on the worst end is when quote, you're behind looks
like a quilted mattress, because yeah, it's just bumps everywhere. Yeah,
enormous bumps of cellulite. And Kristen, if you had said,

(02:30):
I don't want either the orange or the cottage cheese,
that would have been a false choice because every woman,
pretty much, I think it's what Well, it's okay, well
close enough, close enough of women are going to develop
cellulite after puberty at some point in their life, so
it's just for for the great majority of us ladies,
it is inevitable. It's so common, in fact, that some

(02:54):
dermatologists consider it a secondary sex characteristic for women. Yeah.
If you just had a body lying there and you
see that tell tale orange peel, yeah, be like that's
a woman, that's a woman. Yes, that's cellulite. Uh. And
in fact, not surprised here, Molly. We've got estrogen to
thank for cellulite, because estrogen triggers women's bodies to store

(03:16):
extra fat for pregnancy, and this extra fat is the
source of cellulite. But when it comes to why cellulite
looks the way it does on the skin, why it
does have that unpleasant dimpled appearance. There are some conflicting
theories about why that is. Yeah, there's three big theories
as to why uh cellulite looks the way it does.

(03:38):
One is because of the blood vessels that are underneath
the skin. Basically, if your blood isn't flowing through your
vessels properly, then cellulate could be created because those samples
are going to appear when the fat presses up against
a blood vessel that can't fight back. Essentially, that's not
having enough blood flow to push back against that fat.

(03:58):
Another theory would say it's the white blood cells and
the people with cellulite have chronically inflamed white blood cells,
which cause the scanduloose strength and then also gives that
cellulite room to kind of bulge because it's it means,
like you said, its pockets of fat beneath the skin.
But then the third and most prominent theory about cellulite

(04:19):
boils down to differences between men's and women's connective tissues.
And this is pretty fascinating, and you're gonna have to
We're gonna try and paint a word picture and it
will be a little hard to follow along without a visual.
But here goes. Let's let's pretend we're looking at a
cross section of the skin. Okay, at the bottom, we've
got muscle, all that stuff that's beneath the skin. At

(04:40):
the top, we have your actual skin. And in between
is the connective tissue, the thing that's connecting your skin
to everything else that's inside your body. Now, men have
what looks like a mesh net on that cross section.
I mean, if you just picture like a basketball hoop
or fishing net, it's all crisscrossed. There's all these ways, uh,

(05:02):
lots of x is. Women's connective tissue, on the other hand,
is shaped like vertical columns. So you have these wider
gaps in between the connective tissue. And so the theory
is that we have all the cellulite because fat cells
will push up in between those columns of connective tissue

(05:22):
and push against the skin, creating the dimpled appearance. Yeah.
I mean, if you were trying to keep something out, uh,
and in this case, it's fat that pushes up against
your skin, which you rather have a mesh netting as
your connective tissue? Would you rather have these columns that
are perpendicular to your skin? I mean, it's a straight
it's a straight shot up. So as soon as that
fat starts heading up your your two vehicle columns, it

(05:43):
can just go right up against the skin and create
a dimple. And women also have thinner skin than men,
so if once that fat does get up into that
connective tissue, it's easier to see on a woman than
it is a man. So now that we have firmly
established that almost all women get cellulite and be it

(06:04):
is a distinct difference between our you know, the way
our skin works and men's skin questions, can we get
rid of it? Because women spent in two thousand and
eight forty seven million dollars on cellulite reduction products. And
how many times, Molly, have we opened up a magazine

(06:25):
claiming to hold the secret to cellulite reduction just in
time for swimsuits season, Because a lot of times it's
going to collect around our buttocks, thighs hips, and lower abdomen.
So the question is are we wasting millions tens of
millions of dollars on all these products? You might very
well be, Kristen, I'm just gonna go ahead and give

(06:46):
it away. Now that of that forty seven million spent.
The same woman who spent that money only reported a
to improvement in the appearance of their cellulite, and it
was not a permanent improvement. Basically, some of these products,
the second you stop using them, the second the cellulite
will reappear. So let's talk about some of the options
out there and which ones might give you at least

(07:09):
that temporary improvement that maybe you do want for a
special occasion or something. Well, first off, we have something
called endermology a k A cellulite massage, and it's sort
of like a deep tissue massage that's meant to stimulate
blood flow and supposedly remove unhealthy white blood cells. And
this would be supposed to work according to that blood

(07:29):
vessel theory of cellulite that Molly talked about earlier, Right
if if it in fact your blood isn't flowing correctly,
then a massage would get that blood going. And but
what really is happening. It's just it's kind of plumping
up your skin, and when it puffs up the skin,
then it hides the cellulite temporarily. Then you also have
laser treatments. Yeah, you have these infrared lasers that are

(07:52):
supposed to target the cellulite fat cells and actually melt
them away. And a lot these treatments will cause some
bruising immediately afterwards, and again results are only temporary, right,
some of these treatments, they say that the side effects
are worse than you know, cellulite. If you can learn
to love a cellulite a little better, it's better that

(08:14):
than the bruising. Now, I'm like, what about LiPo section.
If we just go ahead and get rid of those
fat cells to begin with, will that take care of
the problem. Oh my no, Kristen. In fact, I was
reading one article that said LiPo section is the exact
opposite of what you should do for cellulite. I mean
it seems intuitive. I mean, if it's fat that's pushing
up against your skin, then you would seem like just

(08:34):
taking the fat out, yes, would work, But it can't
target the cellulit directly. You can't predict how the fat's
going to come out. And some people, when you take
out the fat, it only uh increases the appearance of
that cellulite. So LiPo sections out, lasers are out, endermology

(08:54):
is out. How about all of these topical treatments that
we have. I mean I've seen so many quote unquote
cellulate you know, removing creams that contain things like retinoids,
lactic acids, and caffeine that are supposed to strengthen the skin,
shrink cellulite fat and build collagen and elastin two, gird

(09:16):
up that connective tissue. And these creams Christen, are the
kinds of things that can provide that temporary effect. I
mean some of those lotions, for example, that have caffeine
in them, Yes, that can stimulate the skin. It kind
of irritates it actually, and again it just makes it
puffy so that the cellulite itself is hidden. But the
second you stop using the lotion, that effects going to

(09:36):
go away. And something to keep in mind when you're,
you know, weighing whether to buy into a cellulite treatment
is that if this connective tissue theory is true, is
the correct one, any treatment is going to have to
essentially change the structure of our connective tissue which is
under our skin, and no lotion can penetrate that deeply

(09:57):
into our skin to change that makeup. So it's kind of, uh,
it would kind of have to be an involved treatment,
uh to to really work. So it really, it seems
like with all these temporary treatments, what they do, if
they actually lessen the appearance of cellulite, is they cause
tissues to swell up and irritate the skin so that

(10:19):
it puffs up so much that it hides the dimples.
Even with things like dry brushing. There those cellulite brushes
that you can get, same thing. It's just irritating, yeah,
irritating and puffing things up. Um. There's also an old
remedy that consists of mixing warm coffee grounds with olive
oil and then wrapping the mixture around your legs with
plastic wrap. I guess to get the get that caffeine injection,

(10:43):
and get the skin all puffed up. So again it's
just it's just puffing up the skin. You're not actually
getting rid of cellulite. And again and again with all
these sources, when they talk to dermatologists, they say there
is no clear cut cure for cellulite. So if you're
spending a lot of money that you don't have trying
to get something to work, you know, this doesn't have

(11:04):
to be a necessary expense in your budget. It might
be kind of nice just to realize that if women
have this. You're not the only person walking around with cellulite,
no matter how egregious it seems to you. You are
not alone out there with your dimply skin. But one
less thing that we haven't touched on that I was
wondering about in terms of reducing the appearance of cellulite,

(11:29):
it's what about just plain old fashion exercise and healthier diet.
That It's a very good point, Kristen, because I mean,
to some excent, it makes sense that if we do
things that rid the fat from our body, then the
fat that's underneath our skin would disappear. But you can't
target this, this cellulite specifically. I mean, yes, we should
all be exercising, we should all be eating, eating healthfully,

(11:51):
just for our own health. And for some women it
is true that when they exercise, their cellulate goes away.
But cellulite, we gotta remember, affects skinny women, it affects
overweight women. So it's not some magic number on the
scale that will get us cellulite free either. In fact,
just to demonstrate these kind of individual differences with cellulite

(12:11):
and weight loss, there was a recent study published in
the Journal of American Society of plastic surgeons that found
that while weight loss for a lot of overweight women
did reduce the severity of cellulite, it actually exacerbated the
look of cellulite in some of the women in the study.

(12:32):
So it's kind of a crap shoot, the cellulate crap shoot.
I mean, I hate to end it on such a
bummer of a note, but it's true. There is no
long lasting way to get rid of it. It's something
that we might just have to come two terms with
and accept and maybe one day science will catch up
to our our lady fears, and in the meantime, let's

(12:52):
just embrace the sisterhood of cellulate you know, it's one
thing that men don't have, like our our breast nerv vagina,
So maybe it's to have roast to embrace cellulite to
Although I will say a very few select group of
men can have cellulite, particularly if they're androgen deficient men
who might be going through that mail menopause. I've discussed before.

(13:14):
Sometimes that hormone build up can cause the appearance of cellulite.
So I don't want to leave all the men out completely.
That's very okay. We'll let them into our sisterhood. In
the meantime, if you would like to send us your
thoughts on cellulite and other delightful topics, email us at
mom Stuff at how stuff works dot com, or you

(13:35):
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(13:55):
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(14:15):
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(14:38):
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I took my rigorous writing course on law and psychology.
I've always been intrigued by the stories of women who
killed their children, and because I was about five months
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(15:21):
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