April 6, 2018 • 42 mins
B grabs drinks with new SMMTY co-host Anney and correspondent Yves.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Bridget and you're listening to stuff momb
never told you now, Sminty listeners, I just gotta say
thank you, thank you so much for speaking with us
(00:25):
during this transition. We all miss Emily, and I know
it's been an interesting time of different kinds of episodes
and different voices, and I hope you've had fun listening
as much as I've had fun producing this content for y'all.
And today I am so, so so excited to introduce
y'all to some new voices that you're gonna be hearing
a lot more of in the coming days. My good
pals Annie and Eves. Hi. This is Annie. Hi, this
(00:49):
is Eves, and we're so happy to be here. Thank
you so much for for having us, and we're very
excited too. Yeah. I help you produce the content, Bridget
and be a part of this whole Sminty community. Yeah,
we totally miss Emily too, but we're so excited to
be here with you. Bridget. Well, I'm excited to have y'all.
And actually it's funny that you mentioned Emily because we
(01:10):
all got a chance to hang out during Emily and
I's last studio session. Here's a little bit of how
it sounded. We really enjoyed listening to you from far away. Yes,
we feel like we know you in that weird podcast way.
I love. I love the magic of podcasts for that. Well,
I'm excited to keep listening to stuff. And I've never
told you myself listen. We know, we know that transitions
(01:32):
can be a little bit awkward sometimes, but here it's sminty.
We're all about radical transparency. So we figured why not
let y'all join in on the awkward fun. So Eves
and and I met for drinks at Ladybird, what of
Atlanta's best bars, just to chat and get to know
each other. Yeah, but do you guys do that? Chairs
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and then put down our cheers? And it depends. I'm
not as serious about it as some people are. You know,
some people are to do that. And I've heard people say, oh,
if you cheers and you don't look people in the eyes,
it's bad. Oh you'll have that sex or sex that's that.
I think I must have done that seven years ago.
I'm but any day I would like that. Yeah, it's
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the only explanation I believe. Um tapping this if you
type your glass on the table and hungry. That means
you're it needs to be a political statement, and it
meant you like with the revels and bad thing. Wait, so,
any I always forget that you are this wacky food expert,
so you know probably all these you know details about
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food and eating and culture that most people wouldn't know. Yeah.
I try very hard to keep it um manageable nursery.
So at a party, I try not to scare people away.
Did you know that food you're eating has this huge
history and all of its fascinating and they're looking at
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me with terror in their eyes, like I'm just trying
to eat. I didn't get alone. I can not know.
That's another level. Okay, are we ready for the question?
All right, what what's your first job? Okay, I'll kick
it off. I guess um, it's not that interesting. Um.
(03:22):
So I worked at Ingles was my first job, which
is a grocery store. If that's not like a national chanin,
I don't know, I because they're not um. But I
was a cashier. That's like a typical first job, I guess, um,
and I didn't love it. I feel like most people
can't agree with that. Um, there were really no interesting
things that happened to me while I was there, was
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just like very wrote, Um, but I guess if we're
talking jobs, do jobs who weren't paid for account as
jobs like following your jobs. So when I was like,
I think I was around ten years old, Um, I
had a summer in quotes job um in Columbia, South
Carolina at a library, which was like, I love even
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though I didn't do anything at all there, like reorganized
some things and whatnot. It wasn't like a super elaborate job,
but I loved it because I got to be around
books like at all the whole time I was there. Yeah,
so yeah, what about y'all. Well, before I answer, I
do want to say, uh, like a couple of months ago,
I was in an Angles for the first time in years,
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and they still have that video rental section, and I
took pictures of it because I was like, this still exists. Yeah,
we didn't have that at Art. But the vestige of
the past that we that Angles do have is they
don't have conveyor belts like people still. People still it's
a grocery store. I've never heard of visit in Atlanta.
I think it might be, Yeah, it might be a
(04:47):
Southern thing. I mean, I've never heard of it, so
I believe you people have to push I feel like
if I'm bashing Eagles right now, but people have to
push their grocery cards up to the things still and
the cashiers have to unload it, which I feel like
it does back like a backt. Yeah, you're basically saying
you're going to see your former employer, like if you're
listening Bengals, We Americans are very litigious. This is true.
(05:11):
It's true. I applied for a job at Ingles and
did not get it, so still still have to worry.
It's okay, you're not missing out on anything. Yeah, I've
never heard of the store. Now I want to find one.
Bengals or Ingles singing Les, Yeah, there's fir some around here.
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The first thing I think that I had as a
job is when I was nine, I worked for my uncle,
Adam Marina. My uncle is rich, by the way, and
I was hoping to get like a big paycheck. But
it was a life lesson because I got to the
end of the summer of working there and I'm like, okay,
I pay off, and he said, well, we never agreed
on terms, so here's a Snickers bar. And to this
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day it's like imprinted a life lesson on me that
your uncle wasn't. You know, there's larch than getting nothing.
But at the same time, I'm really amazed that you
waited until the end of the summer to act for anybody.
And I like talking about terms, right, And he knew
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just to you know, twist of the NiFe. He knew
I didn't like sick whatjure? That really sucks, But you know,
a hard work ethic. That's what I learned. As he
likes to say, Um, did you eat the Snickers? No?
What did you do with it? I think I just
stared at it sadly. The melton An insart his car.
(06:41):
It was Rodeo Revenge. I know nothing best now accurate? Yeah,
definitely not. I think my first real job was working
at those fancy booths at football stadiums. Oh man, I
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know so little about football and revealing myself. But where
where people get the boxes? Yeah? Oh yeah, that box,
yeah tonight, and I would bring in. I would load
in all of their alcohol and food and then take
your orders. And the best part about that job was
at the end they were all so drunk and I
have to make sure they got home safely. But they
would give me all of their food because they were
too drunk to realize. You maybe I could keep this,
(07:27):
Oh have it, have it so I would have food
for weeks, which is in the college studios prest great.
Do you have any horror stories that really stand out
in your mind from that time? I had one woman
who was determined too. I don't know if drive homes
what she was going to do, but she was not
going to let me get her safely in a car,
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and I was trying to convince her and she was
not having it. And she fell over the stairs, the
stair railing, and she was fine, but I was terror
fight that this woman might have just died. And it
was good to be Oh my god, she just got up.
It's kind of star water, John. People tend to be
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pretty resilient, get hurt, they tend to be right. What
about you? So my first job, I don't know if
you could really call it a job, but my mom
is a patrician and she has her own private practice,
and so I spent many summers filing and checking in
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you know, um patients all that. It was a terrible
employee actually have been fired many times, luckily and my
mom kept me around. Um, it was a good job.
It was interesting to see different parents and their kids
and sort of the challenges that that come of parenthood.
And so I feel like literally age was interesting to
see to be in that environment. So I don't actually
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don't know that I got paid, though she'll probably follow
some sort of labor disappeared like years slavers some favorite Yeah,
she better watch out. My first page job was in
a movie there. I love movies, m mak a movie person,
and as in high school, I worked at the popcorn
count out of movie theater in my hometown, and I
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worked from doing concessions to doing projection. And so when
I finally worked my way up from concessions to projection,
it wasn't the best because you basically got to watch
movies all day and her free and and so you basically,
you know, you've got to be by yourself in a
little room, um, watching movies, And the worst part of
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the job was having to make sure that there was
no I guess you might say riff raff going on
in the theater. You can imagine this is also a
small town, so you can imagine like the kind of
thing people would try to do in small town movie theaters,
and so, you know, it's like a little high school bridget,
you know, all and ten pounds of her. It was
my job to make sure that there was no riff
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or funny business going on. As it. I wasn't great
at that. I mean usually I have would be like
unless someonez like legit doing something that they shouldn't be doing,
I usually slid it slide. Yeah, I hope my old
manager doesn't hear that. We're gonna make sure that happens. Yeah,
I'm imagine like project projectionist, that was your title, like right,
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I just feel like there's just so much aura around
that title. I don't know, do you do you know
what I'm talking about? Like there's a certain mistique about
the projection now, is there? Yeah? Well, I think there
used to be, and not no slight against you, Bridget,
but I think it used to be a thing a
skill involved, because you had to wait for the sigarette
bird and he would move out. But I want to
be very clear, by the time I was doing this,
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it was not a job that involved a lot of skill.
So I think I'm back in the day. I've heard
like back in the day it was like more you know,
at least making sure that nothing went wrong. I wasn't really.
It was kind of like on its own. I would
love to do them. We see a movie Fight Club
when he's able to like swap out them. I never
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had that that chance. It was nothing that, you know,
not something I could do, but I could make it happen.
That would be a it's a lifelong dream just to
like swap out the movie that it's supposed to be playing.
It's like another movie. Yeah, we can make you check
it off the bucket list. I mean, it wouldn't be
as nefarious as in Fight Club. Would be more like
you came to see Hot Tub Time Machine and you
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are watching this obscure documentary about French art enjoy I
when I was in middle school he seven grade, Me
and my friend tried to go see Troy and we
were under age, and my friend she wore a shirt
that had the year on it and said clearly she
was in seventh grade. Yes, in track clubs. And so
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they read the shirt and would get at it. Here
you uligans track clothes. That amazing. So we bought tickets
to see some kids ice age or something, and we
went we snuck into Troy. But it's still stick says
that she worked that. Sure, she's not experienced all sneak.
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I gotta say, sneaking into the movies it was a
very early, like, you know, slightly scandalous joy of mine
as a youth. Know, but I could take it to
one movie and see another, you know, doing a double
teature for fraid speaking candy into the movies. That was
like a big, early, fun, nefarious thing that I loved
(12:30):
me too. The one of the first times I got
in trouble was because I had a nightmare about raptors
and my parents were asking me, why did you have
this nightmare? You haven't seen any movies with dinosaurs and
it have you? Because they knew I'd snuck into see
Drastic Park, And eventually I had to admit i'd defress up. Yeah,
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I know about a raptors. Mom, I know, thinks I like,
how that's the scandalous movie out of all the movies
you could have seen. Like sneaking, it wasn't a big
thing for me, though, I don't I feel like i've
I don't think I ever did it. Honestly, the only
thing I can remember about going into a like R
rated movie with my parents and I was young, and
it was Stigmata, which is a movie. It's a movie
that like haunted me and was like my like the
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scariest movie for me for a long time. And that's
when I was so young. And it is pretty intense
because there's a lot of actual blood, like you know
how like how they actually people die but you don't
see the blood to her. Yeah, And um, I remember
specifically somebody saying on the way out, and I don't know,
it's like ninety nine. I don't remember when that movie
came out, but um, somebody's saying, like to my mom,
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you took your kid to see this, you know. I
don't remember what happened after that, But I have two
things to say about that. One. Again, I feel like
I'm like bashing my parents in this way, but I'm
doing it lovingly. I had the kind of parents that
would take us to like pretty intense movies when we
were very young. They were like, we're not paying for
a babysit there, Like you're gonna come with us. It's
ive seen like pretty intense movies. You're thinking, you know,
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what kind of person picks their kid to this movie?
Is like my parents, I've seen a lot of scary movies.
I remember going to see Chucky when it was in years.
I must have been like five, and I to this
day I am like terrified of Chucky. Like really as
an adultment, it's understandable. But yeah, I was um at
a movie pretty recently. Um, something that was It was
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get Out and I remember hearing a baby I could
infant try and somebody shouted out, am I gonna have
to punch an Indian? But it isn't like co would
bring their They're like it was like a baby who
would bring their baby to a movie? Like right right,
that's terrible. Um. Yeah, so don't bring your baby to
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the movies unless a movie for babies. Babies. When I
was nine, Um, we could just talk about movies this
whole time. Yeah, this is that would be great. My
I went to visit my family in Florida for the
first time, and my cousins wanted to go see Air
Force Warm. I was too young, but they snuck me
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in through the back and you see this movie and
I had a fear at the time already of Gary
Oldman and then I see him in this movie and
it's just I knew it. So later that night, I
was left alone in the hotel and I saw this
white band. I bid it was spraying some kind of
(15:22):
fog and I didn't know what it was, but I
thought it was terrorist Gary Oldman for me, and I
thought I was going to die truly. So I opened
the fridge and I found a pack of Fresca, which
I thought was beer because I wanted to get drunk
one time before I died. And nine okay, and I
(15:42):
drank six fresca, look down them all, and then I
thought I was the worst bubble ever. Yeah, he's like
this felt sick. I thought he was drunk, but I wasn't.
But I guess the caffeine under like the feeling of me.
I am drunk. I ran outside, scre mean, we're all
going to die. They are terrorists. I'm running by hotel
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room saying that, and I ran past my aunt's hotel
room and I fell and broke my ankle inside like
a little water drainage thing. And my guessing's got such
big trouble. So I have a question, how many times
have you broken a limb? Or something on your body.
(16:26):
I'm really going to be a lot because of that story. Cry,
I'm doing clumsy. So you're used to like the whole
healing process and like going through about the trooper. Damn.
I also have thirteen concussions. Oh my god. And my
doctor seriously was trying to get me to wear some
type of helmets in my everyday life and I said,
(16:49):
I can't do it. Oh yeah, they don't just be
a life and nerve. How on you? Oh my god.
You guys have a lot of broken bones. None Fortunately
we've never broke in a bone. Okay, I have not
broken a lot of bones. I broke in my collar
bone several times, so you might you could actually kind
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of see it's like not so it doesn't look right. Um,
it's because I've broken it so many times. First time
I broke and I was a child of four or
five and never quite feels tractually. And so I told
this story on the podcast. It's not one that makes
me look very good. But when I was in college,
I was sitting I was in a party and I
was sitting in the window or like no, I was
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sitting on a like a I guess the window is right,
Like it's like a large window balcony situation. And somebody
was going around with a cooler throwing beers at people.
And I saw that this guy I was trying to impress.
It was like when I wanted to pick on like
a cool you know, cool girls. I was like, hey,
throw me beer, and the guy threw me a beer
and I just went over the bones. It was the
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second story about me. So I broke my collar bone.
I left the party in an ambulance. Oh my gosh,
it was I hope the party ended after that. No,
I kept going that a party. I was kind of
like a girl who was like when you know the
girl in New York college was like getting drunk and
like talking about to do a headstand or like like
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I was really athletic in in school, and when I
started drinking in college, the two things kind of merge.
So I was that that reckless person was like I'm
gonna climb this thing, like it's gonna be great. You know,
if I was often getting hurt trying to like look
cool or impress people, or to being a drunken idiot.
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What was the name of that movie that came out
like several years ago. That was about like college parties.
It's called project or. Oh yeah, that just reminded me
of that my college days. I'm glad they're behind me,
but had a lot of Project X style parties. More
after a quick break and we're back, let's get right
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back to it. Do y'all want to try another question? Okay,
so what are you reading right now? So? I just
started reading this will Bema I'm doing by Morgan Turkins.
Oh superstar. She's like on a global tour right now.
I'm sane le jealous and how successful she is. She's amazing.
And also there's always word of one saying I like,
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there's something else. I'll leave it there because I can't
remember what else it is? What about to um? So
I have to admit I'm not a huge reader. Um.
I often like start books and stop them and all
of that two books stuff in the middle of now
are We Are Never Meaning? In Real Life? By Samantha Irby,
which is like a collection of funny bringing in essays
about um kind of like a light lived online and
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sort of like feminine from a really interesting with feminist
prospective of what it's like to be puplong. Somebody who
saw on my faces. But then it's also a real person,
you know. It's kind of interesting. Another one that I'm
in the middle of that I am super super late
on is Just Kids by Patti Smith. Yeah. It's so good.
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So I'm I'm not a huge Patti Smith fannel. I
feel like I should be because she's just like a
rod woman. But her writing is so evocative, right, and
I guess I as someone who thinks of myself it's
like a creative. It's very interesting how her she sees
herself as a creative who was in a relationship with
another creative and so of how that how their relationship
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kind of becomes its own, like that creative products in
a kind of way. You know. It's very it's very touching,
it's very sad, and sheks like it's such a cool person.
Yeah really, yeah, Like if I can be as cool
as Pattie Smith, I would die very happy. That's really funny.
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And I remember the other book that I'm in the
middle of, which is it's a book of stories about
or No herston Um and it's one of those things.
I don't know if they'll go the same way, but
like short story collections, aren't like I have to digest
them over time, Like reading one after the next after
the next is kind of like tiring, right, So that's
like kind of want to like almost a palate. I
am a short story collection to suggest for you know.
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It's called Whatever Happened at Interracial Love. It's very good. Um,
if you're into like Azora Hurston's short story collection, you
will love it. It's very very Can you say the
name again, whatever Happened to Interracial Love? Okay, it's very good.
Don'ld the title scare you off? No, it's very good. No,
it won't. I know what you're thinking. But now if
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it's like she's I forget the name of the author,
but she's this like amazing sort of because then Hurston
like undiscovered black female writer from like way back when
who tragically went kind of undiscovered and sort of now
after her death having her sort of her do and
so it's a great book. I cannot recommend it up.
You will love it. Oh, thank you. I love book recommendations,
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even though, like I said, I feel overwhelmed. I mean,
there's only so many hours in the day, you know, Yeah,
I like I to just acknowledge, like I'm a bad reader.
It takes me so long to get through a book.
I just like, you know, you're busy, and I don't know.
I have a friend and we always joke that she
knows me well enough now that whenever I say if
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someone's like, oh, um, if it's a movie that was
based on a book. When somebody says like, oh, did
you read the book, and I say yes, I actually
means no, but I saw the movie, read the Wikipedia
about the book, you know whatever, I'm like, I read it,
and he's like, she didn't read it. If I'm like
lying about books I've read for a long time, now
get a long career of lying. I feel like too,
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that the Internet hasn't been like is a major part
of that, because you just have so much You may
be reading a book, but you're also reading a ton
of articles in the Internet at the same time, and
that's taking up a lot of your reading. Tis I
noticed that in college because I was such a voracious
reader all through elementary school, middle school, high school, and
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what I got college. I had so much assigned reading
that I was reading, but it was never anything that
I was very plumped about reading. So and that was
It's sort of distanced me from reading for a while
because it was I was reading for work, for school,
but not for pleasure. You didn't want to read James
Joyce's You Listen, Man? I read it? Yeah, Um yeah,
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I mean I have had some great luck, George. I
went to Georgia Tech, which is a technical school, but
they made me take one liberal arts class, and I
was fortunate and that the teacher, it was a big
sci fi apocalypse kind of fan, and he on his
reading list was Octavia et Butler like these books that
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I loved, so in that case and that one particular
class in my entire culture, I didn't enjoy the assigned reading.
And every book I read, I'm so glad I read.
And a lot of books I've read that I didn't like,
I am glad I read them, even if they were difficult.
Let's feel I have a I am a PhD dropout.
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I was trying to get a PhD in literature, which
is a lot of reading, and I ended up not
finishing it, to my to the horror of my parents
and family. Um, but I felt the same way right
that I loved reading. But once it became clear that
in order to graduate with my doctorate. It was just
depended on me being able to like get through just
like massive massing, like academic essays. I'm sure I just
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like did not care about, and so it will be
like I would beat a book that I loved and
then I had to read like ten academic explorations of
that book, where I was like, you know, I just
want to read a book. And that was I mean,
there were many reasons why I dropped out, but that
was a big one, feeling like I had to. I
had picked something that I was passionate about to study
and make my life and my career around. But that
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that was actually kind of a mistake because during that
time in my life, I like now that for fun
or for pleasure. I never wrote for fun or for plussure.
I just was it has become so mechanical, strained out
of it. Yeah, that's understandable. That's another thing for me
is I like writing, and so sometimes when I'm reading,
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I'm thinking to myself, I could be writing sometimes to struggle. Yeah,
somehow it feels like I'm doing war when I'm writing,
even though reading is very valuable and totally legitimate. But
I guess writing is this kind of action that's happening
that you can see progress. So I have trouble I'll
be reading my I could just be oh writing. That's
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a constant life struggle for me too, because it's like
I'm like, oh, I'm reading, and this is for inspiration.
Like when I'm writing, I'm like, if I lose a
little bit of inspiration, I'm like, oh, like, let me
go to reading. I'll get some inspiration from there. And
then I get there and I'm like, while am I
wasting my time? We're not gonna actually the writing. So yeah,
it's always that like back and forth from back and
forth cycle for me too. Yeah, and I keep trying
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to remind myself reading is a different and equally valuable
thing and it does help with the writing. It's it's
hard to separate and you feel like, oh, well, I'm
having fun doing this. I should be working because we're
always hours counting, right with all the things that we're doing.
Oh yeah, that's like my least favorite thing about myself
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is like if I'm just reading, I'm enjoying something somehow,
it's like I'm not doing something productive, but it actually
it's productive. Like when you're reading, you know your sitouncers
are firing and you're trump flexing your creative muscles. Even
if you're just leading. It sucks that we get hung
up on At least I get hung on time. You know,
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I spent three hours reading this book. And what do
I have to show for it? You know? Yeah, you
have nothing to prove, critic I know, this is this
is why I like whatever this sounds makes me sound
like an idiot. But whenever I finished a book, I
tell everybody, I'm like, have you read this book? Like
I'm so obnoxious? No, I mean that means it affected you, right,
That means it had to impact with you, and it
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was memorable, which is great, Like slide it into casual conversation.
An opportunity's reading this book. I've heard of them. Yeah,
let's take a quick break and we're back. Okay, Um,
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what was your favorite band ten years ago? So I'll
be the first first. I'm not going to any spaces,
so do you want to take it first? It's not
very good. I was just very passionate about it. I
was a huge Green Day fan. I've seen it concert
me too. I've actually seen there wasn't play. Yes, I yeah,
(28:09):
you're wait, you actually are still a bit yeah, okay,
let's not just be honest, let's not let's not judge here, alright, alright, alright.
I was in the fan club everybody, the secret emails
and the behind the scenes clips. I snugga in the concerts.
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I drove the Tennessee, I drove the South Carolina. I
was a very big fan. I love that. That was
my goal was I don't know. And the concerts, he
gives away the lead singer, Billy Joe gives away a
guitar to someone, and he just picked random people and
they come up and they play, um, what is that?
(28:50):
Welcome to Paradise, ung to you? Yeah, and he gives
away the guitar. And it was my dream to one
day get called up there. I learned to play guitar
for I did everything, and I never have made it.
And I still kind of hold out one day. I mean,
it has to wait. It's true. I want to say
a concert last year that those concerts are sparsely attected now,
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so you probably one day it's just me, Well, there's
no one else there, kating I'm kidding. I love three day.
I'm just joking. I did good to one last year
and it seems pretty pretty Uh that's well attended. But
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it was interesting mix of people. It was like a
lot of older people, a lot of younger people. So
good for your green day. Oh okay, so that's two
thousand eight. I'm gonna take us through a journey now,
I'm just kidding. Um. So yeah, it was right high school,
so I was I graduated. I was there two thousand
(29:57):
seven seven women to tell you, I'm twenty four about
to be to the birthday. Come up there. Let's talk
about that later. So I would say band, I menna
use a term band loosely, or just got a musical group,
cause I don't think I had a favorite bit. It
was two dozen eight. I was really in my hip
hop stage at that point, and oh god, I'm just
(30:19):
so embarrassing. I was really into the Cool Kids, which
is like the very beginning of the Hinstor age. Oh
my god. I went to a Cool Kids concert and
I believe it was two thousand and eight November UM
at Center Stage UM in Midtown and it was with
Jamille Mondey, Q Tip and the Cool Kids, which is
a great lineup. That's a great line up. It was
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like my first real cool show. Like before that, I
had been to like a lot of lamb concerts. I'm
not gonna call anybody out, but but I remember I
got there like two hours early, like I was so excited.
I like stall Janelle Money like beforehand, and she was
like hey, and she's like amazing, So I was right.
She almost kicked me in the US that night, which
I'll never forget. She didn't actually do it, but you
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know she's like a like so expressive in her performance. Um,
and it was like I was in the very It
was at that point in my life where I was
like eager to get there early at the very front
of the stage. It was a great experience because like
she took I mean, come on now, you know what
I mean. Um. So yeah, it was definitely the Cool Kids.
Like I was into them, like really heavy. I was
total hipster moo like the real like parts of my life.
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So I love it. I went to a fool kid.
So this is the Cool Kids is still a subject
of debate among myself and a friend of mine because
they went to a cool Kids show in d C
many years ago and they had some to They were great.
They had some such a technical problem and so they
had to stop the show temporarily, and when they stopped it,
the craw was was getting little bit restless, and they
(31:45):
were like, okay, so in the meantime, we're gonna do
a freestyle battle, and so they picked people from the
audience to come out in freestyle. And the first guy
they picked popa thinking like, of course, since it's like
not gonna go well, the first Punta picked was unbelievably good.
And to this my friend thinks the entire thing, the
entire like technical problem was a set up and that
guy was a plant because he was like, there's just
(32:06):
no way could be this good, Like it doesn't make sense.
So to this day, my friend maintained that that was
like a setup and that wasn't actually Yeah, sometimes you
know life works album mysterious way, Remember that guy is
he has an illustrious brilliance or freestyle career. Maybe I
hope because he listens. I wouldn't like to hear from
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him we can solve this mystery. My god, I would die.
So I as connections on crime Ye beating Starley Kind's
mystery show on this podcast a podcast podcast, It's very
love it um No. Ten years ago, he was like something,
it's sort of similar my favorite fan ten years ago.
I remember very clearly the moment that they became not
(32:51):
my favorite fan. Um So. I also was like in
a hit stircase. I was really into this. I guess
you would call him like an experimental noise and from
Baltimore called Animal Collective, So like in college, I was
like heavy obsessed with Animal Collective. I had all their
records and some Tongs is my favorite album. I was
so into them. Blah blah blah. The concert they were
(33:11):
break when I was been older into that I just
ten years ago. It was like two deathcachs where I
would have been right. They were playing a show for
their married Weather Closed Pavilion album and cover Breaks Me
Out cover um So mary Weather Post Pavilion is actually
a music venue in Columbia, Maryland, just near DC, and
so them play that venue near Baltimore was like a
(33:33):
big thing because we all when it was, you know,
it was like a highly anticipated show. We'll say that
this was after their um single Mike Girls was like
really big and so this is a big deal. I
mean make to something slightly illicit, which is that we
were like we have to get edibles from the show.
It's gonna be great. Animals were edibles in, It's gonna
be amazing. So we go, we're just such nerds. It
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was kind of thing. We're like we had a dessipated
driver and like we had like printed off from the internet.
I ain't got nerdy. That's totally responsible. We're older, We're
not like kids are like reckless. We were like, here's information.
So I hurt eating and drinking water like we're doing it, no,
doing it very safely. And this venue is like an
(34:16):
outdoor venue, but there's a standing room part right up front,
and so we had got like right up front. It
was very very prouded. And as soon as my edibles
kick in, they started playing and I was like, wait
a minute, I hate this. I don't want this music.
And I really had. I really had one of those
like Emperor's New Clothes moments where I was like, this
is just noise. I don't want this at all, Like
(34:36):
what like what was I thinking? And so you know,
I was there if my boyfriend and my friends and
like they were all loving it, and I was like,
you know what, I really need to not be listening
to a noise band right now. So I was like, guys,
that's traumata and it was like I was just like,
I'm it's really crowded. I have to go. And so
it wasn't like a like a bad trip. It was
just just like I really don't enjoy this music, and
(34:58):
in fact, I can't believe I ever into and excusing.
So I was like, guys, enjoy the concert. Our metal
leaves and I left and I since then I was like,
I don't know what I saw. I really had that
movement where I was like, I don't know what I
saw in this band. I don't know why I liked
them so much. I go back and listen to them,
and I'm like, I don't know what it was. I
just really interesting. Yeah, I have that experienced, Like I
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don't think I've ever had it that close to the
time and when I liked the band, But I have
that when I go back and listen to some of
the old stuff that I've liked found from the Oar Cops.
Because I don't have a lot of that stuff. I
would have thought that I would have kept it forever,
because like at one point, downloading music was like the
only thing I did after I did my homework like
it was my second homework, you know what I mean,
Like back when downloading music was a lot easier LimeWire
(35:46):
remember her husband on lime Wire one of the la function. Yeah,
I've never even used a chat function. Yeah, there was
a chat function. And she moved and Sweden to be
with this guy. They're still together. Love story. Yeah, if
the Lonnie is the city to this, she'll be like,
oh that's me, shout out to Wan and they're not
sin together and season that wasn't noise. The love stories work, Yeah,
(36:11):
but there in terms, like a point when, um, like
all that music that I had collected over all that time,
my laptop was stolen and I was and I hadn't
backed it up. But the part that really like, um,
the part that made me really sad was that I
had tried to back everything up before and it didn't work.
My computer was just like, this doesn't happen, and like
I felt, I had so much regret about like not
(36:33):
trying again to do it. But now like after I
had to convince myself that this was a thing that
like happened purposefully. I was just like, you know, this
was a purging, like it was meant to start I
was meant to start over. And now you live in
an age of Spotify, like you don't even need to
have physical or like downloaded copies and music still the clown. Yeah,
(36:55):
music was a big that was my thing. It to
me still, it was a big part of my upbringing. Um,
when I was great young. This is kind of tragic story.
My first boyfriend we met because we're both in choir
together and I loved music and he loved music, and
he was a singer. I possibly trained the singer with
a beautiful voice, and we both went to like we
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both were had pretty conservative religious upbringings until the only
music that I really had in my life was like
very clean, wholesome music like early Beatles, right. And when
I started getting into like more experimental music, I remember
specifically it was so a huge. I was so excited
and I remember being like, you have to listen to
this this this band I found. They're amazing, and he
(37:38):
listened to it and he was like, I don't feel
like I get it, and he was like really he
was really into like choir music, and I ever like
I had to break up with him because I was like, yo,
I could feel myself like getting really into bands and music,
and I thought like that we can't share this, like
then what is this? And so we broke up and
it was very tragic. And now that guy is like
a famous pop star in Korea. When you talk, he's like,
(38:02):
it's funny how you duped be because I listened to
music which one of us is a famous musician now
and I love, oh, hey, you're right, but this is
too strong. But it's interesting when you're young and you
like get into something and you're like this is gonna
be you can tell, like like I could tell that,
like music was going to be a from national part
of my life, and even as a kid, I knew,
like I want to be with someone who shares that.
(38:23):
And yeah, it's like I was the same way, like
going home and like going toos on kind of wanting music.
I'm like making mixed c d s and waiting to
hear one song on the radio and I like Pavement,
and then the the DJ would to the off and
so you're like, I'm trying to pick this song here.
You know, I'm got a little young for that, but
that trust me, that was a thing. Yeah, I didn't
do the whole taking. It was all Internet for me. Yeah, yeah,
(38:47):
I mean it's it's definitely a thing. I had an
illegal CD burning because I didn't realize she was a
young huzzler. I want young hustler, I really was. I
had several business a white female jay z but like
not feeling drugs. I didn't realize how illegal it was
(39:12):
because it was so easy when we were younger. So
I had a I had a menu you would open
and had options and then you could request something, or
you could get Annie's mix where I would ask, what
are your favorite songs and I would make a mix
for You've got to do that for all of us.
I will, Oh my god, I will. I was so
(39:35):
successful that um, some guy I didn't even know I
was going into zacks because I remember it's very clearly.
It was like thirty year old man I never met,
said are you Annie? I said yes, and he said,
can you make me a man? That's like my dream?
Oh my god. The weirdest request I got was this
one guy. He wanted an entire CD of Under the
(39:57):
Bridge by Red Hot Chili Peppers, just back to back to,
and I said, I, I mean, there are twenty four
hour loops on YouTube now, so he's ahead of the song.
Maybe maybe you're right he was ahead of his time.
But to me, I was like, don't don't repeat, to
put out repeat and I put other songs on there
in case you ever sighed. He said, nope, but I
doesn't want to hold as maybe as you can sit.
(40:19):
What do you think he was doing with that? You
don't want to know? Yeah, okay, my Corney wild Cart
was what's the last thing that made you cry? Oh?
Oh man? I I was reading something that I had written.
It sounds so self aggrandizing, but somebody asked me to
find something I've written as a younger person, and I
(40:42):
found it and I read it and maybe, oh God,
did you ever read something and you look back in
the period of your life and you're just it feels
like a different person and you kind of mourn it
and really sorry, I say so much, but you didn't
know then what was going to happen. It was a surprise,
is that it was something I wasn't expecting to find
(41:02):
and I found it on my old laptop. Prob serious
struggles that so much because it's like things that are
like um the scalta and like pointing it like it's
like that kind of thing that gets me where. It's
like I hadn't processed with this means, but it's really emotional. Yeah,
I didn't realize that what I was writing, and now
(41:24):
I have the emotional tools to recognize. There were many
of times when I'm like reading letters on paper and
just like their tears fall working on like the paper
and like, well, I'm not doing this to myself. I
think that all the time writing this is what a
great note? Right? Well this is better. They're lifting I
(41:47):
told you, Yes, we're bird listeners to you please subsprise. Yeah,
So that conversation that any Bridget and I just had
was really awkward, but we hope that you guys got
(42:07):
to know a lot more about us. Yes, I certainly
learned a lot about Bridget and Ease, and I had
such a fun and awkward time doing it, So I
hope that it was as enjoyable for you as it
was for us. And y'all already know I'm all about
the awkward fund so I hope that was fun for y'all.
And let us know what you think. How is that conversation?
(42:28):
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Hey, this is Bridget and you're listening to stuff momb
never told you now, Sminty listeners, I just gotta say
thank you, thank you so much for speaking with us
(00:25):
during this transition. We all miss Emily, and I know
it's been an interesting time of different kinds of episodes
and different voices, and I hope you've had fun listening
as much as I've had fun producing this content for y'all.
And today I am so, so so excited to introduce
y'all to some new voices that you're gonna be hearing
a lot more of in the coming days. My good
pals Annie and Eves. Hi. This is Annie. Hi, this
(00:49):
is Eves, and we're so happy to be here. Thank
you so much for for having us, and we're very
excited too. Yeah. I help you produce the content, Bridget
and be a part of this whole Sminty community. Yeah,
we totally miss Emily too, but we're so excited to
be here with you. Bridget. Well, I'm excited to have y'all.
And actually it's funny that you mentioned Emily because we
(01:10):
all got a chance to hang out during Emily and
I's last studio session. Here's a little bit of how
it sounded. We really enjoyed listening to you from far away. Yes,
we feel like we know you in that weird podcast way.
I love. I love the magic of podcasts for that. Well,
I'm excited to keep listening to stuff. And I've never
told you myself listen. We know, we know that transitions
(01:32):
can be a little bit awkward sometimes, but here it's sminty.
We're all about radical transparency. So we figured why not
let y'all join in on the awkward fun. So Eves
and and I met for drinks at Ladybird, what of
Atlanta's best bars, just to chat and get to know
each other. Yeah, but do you guys do that? Chairs
(01:53):
and then put down our cheers? And it depends. I'm
not as serious about it as some people are. You know,
some people are to do that. And I've heard people say, oh,
if you cheers and you don't look people in the eyes,
it's bad. Oh you'll have that sex or sex that's that.
I think I must have done that seven years ago.
I'm but any day I would like that. Yeah, it's
(02:17):
the only explanation I believe. Um tapping this if you
type your glass on the table and hungry. That means
you're it needs to be a political statement, and it
meant you like with the revels and bad thing. Wait, so,
any I always forget that you are this wacky food expert,
so you know probably all these you know details about
(02:40):
food and eating and culture that most people wouldn't know. Yeah.
I try very hard to keep it um manageable nursery.
So at a party, I try not to scare people away.
Did you know that food you're eating has this huge
history and all of its fascinating and they're looking at
(03:00):
me with terror in their eyes, like I'm just trying
to eat. I didn't get alone. I can not know.
That's another level. Okay, are we ready for the question?
All right, what what's your first job? Okay, I'll kick
it off. I guess um, it's not that interesting. Um.
(03:22):
So I worked at Ingles was my first job, which
is a grocery store. If that's not like a national chanin,
I don't know, I because they're not um. But I
was a cashier. That's like a typical first job, I guess, um,
and I didn't love it. I feel like most people
can't agree with that. Um, there were really no interesting
things that happened to me while I was there, was
(03:43):
just like very wrote, Um, but I guess if we're
talking jobs, do jobs who weren't paid for account as
jobs like following your jobs. So when I was like,
I think I was around ten years old, Um, I
had a summer in quotes job um in Columbia, South
Carolina at a library, which was like, I love even
(04:05):
though I didn't do anything at all there, like reorganized
some things and whatnot. It wasn't like a super elaborate job,
but I loved it because I got to be around
books like at all the whole time I was there. Yeah,
so yeah, what about y'all. Well, before I answer, I
do want to say, uh, like a couple of months ago,
I was in an Angles for the first time in years,
(04:26):
and they still have that video rental section, and I
took pictures of it because I was like, this still exists. Yeah,
we didn't have that at Art. But the vestige of
the past that we that Angles do have is they
don't have conveyor belts like people still. People still it's
a grocery store. I've never heard of visit in Atlanta.
I think it might be, Yeah, it might be a
(04:47):
Southern thing. I mean, I've never heard of it, so
I believe you people have to push I feel like
if I'm bashing Eagles right now, but people have to
push their grocery cards up to the things still and
the cashiers have to unload it, which I feel like
it does back like a backt. Yeah, you're basically saying
you're going to see your former employer, like if you're
listening Bengals, We Americans are very litigious. This is true.
(05:11):
It's true. I applied for a job at Ingles and
did not get it, so still still have to worry.
It's okay, you're not missing out on anything. Yeah, I've
never heard of the store. Now I want to find one.
Bengals or Ingles singing Les, Yeah, there's fir some around here.
(05:35):
The first thing I think that I had as a
job is when I was nine, I worked for my uncle,
Adam Marina. My uncle is rich, by the way, and
I was hoping to get like a big paycheck. But
it was a life lesson because I got to the
end of the summer of working there and I'm like, okay,
I pay off, and he said, well, we never agreed
on terms, so here's a Snickers bar. And to this
(05:57):
day it's like imprinted a life lesson on me that
your uncle wasn't. You know, there's larch than getting nothing.
But at the same time, I'm really amazed that you
waited until the end of the summer to act for anybody.
And I like talking about terms, right, And he knew
(06:18):
just to you know, twist of the NiFe. He knew
I didn't like sick whatjure? That really sucks, But you know,
a hard work ethic. That's what I learned. As he
likes to say, Um, did you eat the Snickers? No?
What did you do with it? I think I just
stared at it sadly. The melton An insart his car.
(06:41):
It was Rodeo Revenge. I know nothing best now accurate? Yeah,
definitely not. I think my first real job was working
at those fancy booths at football stadiums. Oh man, I
(07:04):
know so little about football and revealing myself. But where
where people get the boxes? Yeah? Oh yeah, that box,
yeah tonight, and I would bring in. I would load
in all of their alcohol and food and then take
your orders. And the best part about that job was
at the end they were all so drunk and I
have to make sure they got home safely. But they
would give me all of their food because they were
too drunk to realize. You maybe I could keep this,
(07:27):
Oh have it, have it so I would have food
for weeks, which is in the college studios prest great.
Do you have any horror stories that really stand out
in your mind from that time? I had one woman
who was determined too. I don't know if drive homes
what she was going to do, but she was not
going to let me get her safely in a car,
(07:49):
and I was trying to convince her and she was
not having it. And she fell over the stairs, the
stair railing, and she was fine, but I was terror
fight that this woman might have just died. And it
was good to be Oh my god, she just got up.
It's kind of star water, John. People tend to be
(08:12):
pretty resilient, get hurt, they tend to be right. What
about you? So my first job, I don't know if
you could really call it a job, but my mom
is a patrician and she has her own private practice,
and so I spent many summers filing and checking in
(08:33):
you know, um patients all that. It was a terrible
employee actually have been fired many times, luckily and my
mom kept me around. Um, it was a good job.
It was interesting to see different parents and their kids
and sort of the challenges that that come of parenthood.
And so I feel like literally age was interesting to
see to be in that environment. So I don't actually
(08:53):
don't know that I got paid, though she'll probably follow
some sort of labor disappeared like years slavers some favorite Yeah,
she better watch out. My first page job was in
a movie there. I love movies, m mak a movie person,
and as in high school, I worked at the popcorn
count out of movie theater in my hometown, and I
(09:14):
worked from doing concessions to doing projection. And so when
I finally worked my way up from concessions to projection,
it wasn't the best because you basically got to watch
movies all day and her free and and so you basically,
you know, you've got to be by yourself in a
little room, um, watching movies, And the worst part of
(09:35):
the job was having to make sure that there was
no I guess you might say riff raff going on
in the theater. You can imagine this is also a
small town, so you can imagine like the kind of
thing people would try to do in small town movie theaters,
and so, you know, it's like a little high school bridget,
you know, all and ten pounds of her. It was
my job to make sure that there was no riff
(09:58):
or funny business going on. As it. I wasn't great
at that. I mean usually I have would be like
unless someonez like legit doing something that they shouldn't be doing,
I usually slid it slide. Yeah, I hope my old
manager doesn't hear that. We're gonna make sure that happens. Yeah,
I'm imagine like project projectionist, that was your title, like right,
(10:18):
I just feel like there's just so much aura around
that title. I don't know, do you do you know
what I'm talking about? Like there's a certain mistique about
the projection now, is there? Yeah? Well, I think there
used to be, and not no slight against you, Bridget,
but I think it used to be a thing a
skill involved, because you had to wait for the sigarette
bird and he would move out. But I want to
be very clear, by the time I was doing this,
(10:40):
it was not a job that involved a lot of skill.
So I think I'm back in the day. I've heard
like back in the day it was like more you know,
at least making sure that nothing went wrong. I wasn't really.
It was kind of like on its own. I would
love to do them. We see a movie Fight Club
when he's able to like swap out them. I never
(11:01):
had that that chance. It was nothing that, you know,
not something I could do, but I could make it happen.
That would be a it's a lifelong dream just to
like swap out the movie that it's supposed to be playing.
It's like another movie. Yeah, we can make you check
it off the bucket list. I mean, it wouldn't be
as nefarious as in Fight Club. Would be more like
you came to see Hot Tub Time Machine and you
(11:23):
are watching this obscure documentary about French art enjoy I
when I was in middle school he seven grade, Me
and my friend tried to go see Troy and we
were under age, and my friend she wore a shirt
that had the year on it and said clearly she
was in seventh grade. Yes, in track clubs. And so
(11:47):
they read the shirt and would get at it. Here
you uligans track clothes. That amazing. So we bought tickets
to see some kids ice age or something, and we
went we snuck into Troy. But it's still stick says
that she worked that. Sure, she's not experienced all sneak.
(12:09):
I gotta say, sneaking into the movies it was a
very early, like, you know, slightly scandalous joy of mine
as a youth. Know, but I could take it to
one movie and see another, you know, doing a double
teature for fraid speaking candy into the movies. That was
like a big, early, fun, nefarious thing that I loved
(12:30):
me too. The one of the first times I got
in trouble was because I had a nightmare about raptors
and my parents were asking me, why did you have
this nightmare? You haven't seen any movies with dinosaurs and
it have you? Because they knew I'd snuck into see
Drastic Park, And eventually I had to admit i'd defress up. Yeah,
(12:50):
I know about a raptors. Mom, I know, thinks I like,
how that's the scandalous movie out of all the movies
you could have seen. Like sneaking, it wasn't a big
thing for me, though, I don't I feel like i've
I don't think I ever did it. Honestly, the only
thing I can remember about going into a like R
rated movie with my parents and I was young, and
it was Stigmata, which is a movie. It's a movie
that like haunted me and was like my like the
(13:11):
scariest movie for me for a long time. And that's
when I was so young. And it is pretty intense
because there's a lot of actual blood, like you know
how like how they actually people die but you don't
see the blood to her. Yeah, And um, I remember
specifically somebody saying on the way out, and I don't know,
it's like ninety nine. I don't remember when that movie
came out, but um, somebody's saying, like to my mom,
(13:34):
you took your kid to see this, you know. I
don't remember what happened after that, But I have two
things to say about that. One. Again, I feel like
I'm like bashing my parents in this way, but I'm
doing it lovingly. I had the kind of parents that
would take us to like pretty intense movies when we
were very young. They were like, we're not paying for
a babysit there, Like you're gonna come with us. It's
ive seen like pretty intense movies. You're thinking, you know,
(13:57):
what kind of person picks their kid to this movie?
Is like my parents, I've seen a lot of scary movies.
I remember going to see Chucky when it was in years.
I must have been like five, and I to this
day I am like terrified of Chucky. Like really as
an adultment, it's understandable. But yeah, I was um at
a movie pretty recently. Um, something that was It was
(14:18):
get Out and I remember hearing a baby I could
infant try and somebody shouted out, am I gonna have
to punch an Indian? But it isn't like co would
bring their They're like it was like a baby who
would bring their baby to a movie? Like right right,
that's terrible. Um. Yeah, so don't bring your baby to
(14:39):
the movies unless a movie for babies. Babies. When I
was nine, Um, we could just talk about movies this
whole time. Yeah, this is that would be great. My
I went to visit my family in Florida for the
first time, and my cousins wanted to go see Air
Force Warm. I was too young, but they snuck me
(15:02):
in through the back and you see this movie and
I had a fear at the time already of Gary
Oldman and then I see him in this movie and
it's just I knew it. So later that night, I
was left alone in the hotel and I saw this
white band. I bid it was spraying some kind of
(15:22):
fog and I didn't know what it was, but I
thought it was terrorist Gary Oldman for me, and I
thought I was going to die truly. So I opened
the fridge and I found a pack of Fresca, which
I thought was beer because I wanted to get drunk
one time before I died. And nine okay, and I
(15:42):
drank six fresca, look down them all, and then I
thought I was the worst bubble ever. Yeah, he's like
this felt sick. I thought he was drunk, but I wasn't.
But I guess the caffeine under like the feeling of me.
I am drunk. I ran outside, scre mean, we're all
going to die. They are terrorists. I'm running by hotel
(16:03):
room saying that, and I ran past my aunt's hotel
room and I fell and broke my ankle inside like
a little water drainage thing. And my guessing's got such
big trouble. So I have a question, how many times
have you broken a limb? Or something on your body.
(16:26):
I'm really going to be a lot because of that story. Cry,
I'm doing clumsy. So you're used to like the whole
healing process and like going through about the trooper. Damn.
I also have thirteen concussions. Oh my god. And my
doctor seriously was trying to get me to wear some
type of helmets in my everyday life and I said,
(16:49):
I can't do it. Oh yeah, they don't just be
a life and nerve. How on you? Oh my god.
You guys have a lot of broken bones. None Fortunately
we've never broke in a bone. Okay, I have not
broken a lot of bones. I broke in my collar
bone several times, so you might you could actually kind
(17:10):
of see it's like not so it doesn't look right. Um,
it's because I've broken it so many times. First time
I broke and I was a child of four or
five and never quite feels tractually. And so I told
this story on the podcast. It's not one that makes
me look very good. But when I was in college,
I was sitting I was in a party and I
was sitting in the window or like no, I was
(17:32):
sitting on a like a I guess the window is right,
Like it's like a large window balcony situation. And somebody
was going around with a cooler throwing beers at people.
And I saw that this guy I was trying to impress.
It was like when I wanted to pick on like
a cool you know, cool girls. I was like, hey,
throw me beer, and the guy threw me a beer
and I just went over the bones. It was the
(17:54):
second story about me. So I broke my collar bone.
I left the party in an ambulance. Oh my gosh,
it was I hope the party ended after that. No,
I kept going that a party. I was kind of
like a girl who was like when you know the
girl in New York college was like getting drunk and
like talking about to do a headstand or like like
(18:15):
I was really athletic in in school, and when I
started drinking in college, the two things kind of merge.
So I was that that reckless person was like I'm
gonna climb this thing, like it's gonna be great. You know,
if I was often getting hurt trying to like look
cool or impress people, or to being a drunken idiot.
(18:36):
What was the name of that movie that came out
like several years ago. That was about like college parties.
It's called project or. Oh yeah, that just reminded me
of that my college days. I'm glad they're behind me,
but had a lot of Project X style parties. More
after a quick break and we're back, let's get right
(19:07):
back to it. Do y'all want to try another question? Okay,
so what are you reading right now? So? I just
started reading this will Bema I'm doing by Morgan Turkins.
Oh superstar. She's like on a global tour right now.
I'm sane le jealous and how successful she is. She's amazing.
And also there's always word of one saying I like,
(19:30):
there's something else. I'll leave it there because I can't
remember what else it is? What about to um? So
I have to admit I'm not a huge reader. Um.
I often like start books and stop them and all
of that two books stuff in the middle of now
are We Are Never Meaning? In Real Life? By Samantha Irby,
which is like a collection of funny bringing in essays
about um kind of like a light lived online and
(19:53):
sort of like feminine from a really interesting with feminist
prospective of what it's like to be puplong. Somebody who
saw on my faces. But then it's also a real person,
you know. It's kind of interesting. Another one that I'm
in the middle of that I am super super late
on is Just Kids by Patti Smith. Yeah. It's so good.
(20:13):
So I'm I'm not a huge Patti Smith fannel. I
feel like I should be because she's just like a
rod woman. But her writing is so evocative, right, and
I guess I as someone who thinks of myself it's
like a creative. It's very interesting how her she sees
herself as a creative who was in a relationship with
another creative and so of how that how their relationship
(20:35):
kind of becomes its own, like that creative products in
a kind of way. You know. It's very it's very touching,
it's very sad, and sheks like it's such a cool person.
Yeah really, yeah, Like if I can be as cool
as Pattie Smith, I would die very happy. That's really funny.
(20:56):
And I remember the other book that I'm in the
middle of, which is it's a book of stories about
or No herston Um and it's one of those things.
I don't know if they'll go the same way, but
like short story collections, aren't like I have to digest
them over time, Like reading one after the next after
the next is kind of like tiring, right, So that's
like kind of want to like almost a palate. I
am a short story collection to suggest for you know.
(21:19):
It's called Whatever Happened at Interracial Love. It's very good. Um,
if you're into like Azora Hurston's short story collection, you
will love it. It's very very Can you say the
name again, whatever Happened to Interracial Love? Okay, it's very good.
Don'ld the title scare you off? No, it's very good. No,
it won't. I know what you're thinking. But now if
(21:41):
it's like she's I forget the name of the author,
but she's this like amazing sort of because then Hurston
like undiscovered black female writer from like way back when
who tragically went kind of undiscovered and sort of now
after her death having her sort of her do and
so it's a great book. I cannot recommend it up.
You will love it. Oh, thank you. I love book recommendations,
(22:06):
even though, like I said, I feel overwhelmed. I mean,
there's only so many hours in the day, you know, Yeah,
I like I to just acknowledge, like I'm a bad reader.
It takes me so long to get through a book.
I just like, you know, you're busy, and I don't know.
I have a friend and we always joke that she
knows me well enough now that whenever I say if
(22:26):
someone's like, oh, um, if it's a movie that was
based on a book. When somebody says like, oh, did
you read the book, and I say yes, I actually
means no, but I saw the movie, read the Wikipedia
about the book, you know whatever, I'm like, I read it,
and he's like, she didn't read it. If I'm like
lying about books I've read for a long time, now
get a long career of lying. I feel like too,
(22:48):
that the Internet hasn't been like is a major part
of that, because you just have so much You may
be reading a book, but you're also reading a ton
of articles in the Internet at the same time, and
that's taking up a lot of your reading. Tis I
noticed that in college because I was such a voracious
reader all through elementary school, middle school, high school, and
(23:09):
what I got college. I had so much assigned reading
that I was reading, but it was never anything that
I was very plumped about reading. So and that was
It's sort of distanced me from reading for a while
because it was I was reading for work, for school,
but not for pleasure. You didn't want to read James
Joyce's You Listen, Man? I read it? Yeah, Um yeah,
(23:37):
I mean I have had some great luck, George. I
went to Georgia Tech, which is a technical school, but
they made me take one liberal arts class, and I
was fortunate and that the teacher, it was a big
sci fi apocalypse kind of fan, and he on his
reading list was Octavia et Butler like these books that
(23:59):
I loved, so in that case and that one particular
class in my entire culture, I didn't enjoy the assigned reading.
And every book I read, I'm so glad I read.
And a lot of books I've read that I didn't like,
I am glad I read them, even if they were difficult.
Let's feel I have a I am a PhD dropout.
(24:20):
I was trying to get a PhD in literature, which
is a lot of reading, and I ended up not
finishing it, to my to the horror of my parents
and family. Um, but I felt the same way right
that I loved reading. But once it became clear that
in order to graduate with my doctorate. It was just
depended on me being able to like get through just
like massive massing, like academic essays. I'm sure I just
(24:45):
like did not care about, and so it will be
like I would beat a book that I loved and
then I had to read like ten academic explorations of
that book, where I was like, you know, I just
want to read a book. And that was I mean,
there were many reasons why I dropped out, but that
was a big one, feeling like I had to. I
had picked something that I was passionate about to study
and make my life and my career around. But that
(25:07):
that was actually kind of a mistake because during that
time in my life, I like now that for fun
or for pleasure. I never wrote for fun or for plussure.
I just was it has become so mechanical, strained out
of it. Yeah, that's understandable. That's another thing for me
is I like writing, and so sometimes when I'm reading,
(25:27):
I'm thinking to myself, I could be writing sometimes to struggle. Yeah,
somehow it feels like I'm doing war when I'm writing,
even though reading is very valuable and totally legitimate. But
I guess writing is this kind of action that's happening
that you can see progress. So I have trouble I'll
be reading my I could just be oh writing. That's
(25:49):
a constant life struggle for me too, because it's like
I'm like, oh, I'm reading, and this is for inspiration.
Like when I'm writing, I'm like, if I lose a
little bit of inspiration, I'm like, oh, like, let me
go to reading. I'll get some inspiration from there. And
then I get there and I'm like, while am I
wasting my time? We're not gonna actually the writing. So yeah,
it's always that like back and forth from back and
forth cycle for me too. Yeah, and I keep trying
(26:11):
to remind myself reading is a different and equally valuable
thing and it does help with the writing. It's it's
hard to separate and you feel like, oh, well, I'm
having fun doing this. I should be working because we're
always hours counting, right with all the things that we're doing.
Oh yeah, that's like my least favorite thing about myself
(26:32):
is like if I'm just reading, I'm enjoying something somehow,
it's like I'm not doing something productive, but it actually
it's productive. Like when you're reading, you know your sitouncers
are firing and you're trump flexing your creative muscles. Even
if you're just leading. It sucks that we get hung
up on At least I get hung on time. You know,
(26:53):
I spent three hours reading this book. And what do
I have to show for it? You know? Yeah, you
have nothing to prove, critic I know, this is this
is why I like whatever this sounds makes me sound
like an idiot. But whenever I finished a book, I
tell everybody, I'm like, have you read this book? Like
I'm so obnoxious? No, I mean that means it affected you, right,
That means it had to impact with you, and it
(27:14):
was memorable, which is great, Like slide it into casual conversation.
An opportunity's reading this book. I've heard of them. Yeah,
let's take a quick break and we're back. Okay, Um,
(27:41):
what was your favorite band ten years ago? So I'll
be the first first. I'm not going to any spaces,
so do you want to take it first? It's not
very good. I was just very passionate about it. I
was a huge Green Day fan. I've seen it concert
me too. I've actually seen there wasn't play. Yes, I yeah,
(28:09):
you're wait, you actually are still a bit yeah, okay,
let's not just be honest, let's not let's not judge here, alright, alright, alright.
I was in the fan club everybody, the secret emails
and the behind the scenes clips. I snugga in the concerts.
(28:30):
I drove the Tennessee, I drove the South Carolina. I
was a very big fan. I love that. That was
my goal was I don't know. And the concerts, he
gives away the lead singer, Billy Joe gives away a
guitar to someone, and he just picked random people and
they come up and they play, um, what is that?
(28:50):
Welcome to Paradise, ung to you? Yeah, and he gives
away the guitar. And it was my dream to one
day get called up there. I learned to play guitar
for I did everything, and I never have made it.
And I still kind of hold out one day. I mean,
it has to wait. It's true. I want to say
a concert last year that those concerts are sparsely attected now,
(29:13):
so you probably one day it's just me, Well, there's
no one else there, kating I'm kidding. I love three day.
I'm just joking. I did good to one last year
and it seems pretty pretty Uh that's well attended. But
(29:33):
it was interesting mix of people. It was like a
lot of older people, a lot of younger people. So
good for your green day. Oh okay, so that's two
thousand eight. I'm gonna take us through a journey now,
I'm just kidding. Um. So yeah, it was right high school,
so I was I graduated. I was there two thousand
(29:57):
seven seven women to tell you, I'm twenty four about
to be to the birthday. Come up there. Let's talk
about that later. So I would say band, I menna
use a term band loosely, or just got a musical group,
cause I don't think I had a favorite bit. It
was two dozen eight. I was really in my hip
hop stage at that point, and oh god, I'm just
(30:19):
so embarrassing. I was really into the Cool Kids, which
is like the very beginning of the Hinstor age. Oh
my god. I went to a Cool Kids concert and
I believe it was two thousand and eight November UM
at Center Stage UM in Midtown and it was with
Jamille Mondey, Q Tip and the Cool Kids, which is
a great lineup. That's a great line up. It was
(30:40):
like my first real cool show. Like before that, I
had been to like a lot of lamb concerts. I'm
not gonna call anybody out, but but I remember I
got there like two hours early, like I was so excited.
I like stall Janelle Money like beforehand, and she was
like hey, and she's like amazing, So I was right.
She almost kicked me in the US that night, which
I'll never forget. She didn't actually do it, but you
(31:02):
know she's like a like so expressive in her performance. Um,
and it was like I was in the very It
was at that point in my life where I was
like eager to get there early at the very front
of the stage. It was a great experience because like
she took I mean, come on now, you know what
I mean. Um. So yeah, it was definitely the Cool Kids.
Like I was into them, like really heavy. I was
total hipster moo like the real like parts of my life.
(31:25):
So I love it. I went to a fool kid.
So this is the Cool Kids is still a subject
of debate among myself and a friend of mine because
they went to a cool Kids show in d C
many years ago and they had some to They were great.
They had some such a technical problem and so they
had to stop the show temporarily, and when they stopped it,
the craw was was getting little bit restless, and they
(31:45):
were like, okay, so in the meantime, we're gonna do
a freestyle battle, and so they picked people from the
audience to come out in freestyle. And the first guy
they picked popa thinking like, of course, since it's like
not gonna go well, the first Punta picked was unbelievably good.
And to this my friend thinks the entire thing, the
entire like technical problem was a set up and that
guy was a plant because he was like, there's just
(32:06):
no way could be this good, Like it doesn't make sense.
So to this day, my friend maintained that that was
like a setup and that wasn't actually Yeah, sometimes you
know life works album mysterious way, Remember that guy is
he has an illustrious brilliance or freestyle career. Maybe I
hope because he listens. I wouldn't like to hear from
(32:28):
him we can solve this mystery. My god, I would die.
So I as connections on crime Ye beating Starley Kind's
mystery show on this podcast a podcast podcast, It's very
love it um No. Ten years ago, he was like something,
it's sort of similar my favorite fan ten years ago.
I remember very clearly the moment that they became not
(32:51):
my favorite fan. Um So. I also was like in
a hit stircase. I was really into this. I guess
you would call him like an experimental noise and from
Baltimore called Animal Collective, So like in college, I was
like heavy obsessed with Animal Collective. I had all their
records and some Tongs is my favorite album. I was
so into them. Blah blah blah. The concert they were
(33:11):
break when I was been older into that I just
ten years ago. It was like two deathcachs where I
would have been right. They were playing a show for
their married Weather Closed Pavilion album and cover Breaks Me
Out cover um So mary Weather Post Pavilion is actually
a music venue in Columbia, Maryland, just near DC, and
so them play that venue near Baltimore was like a
(33:33):
big thing because we all when it was, you know,
it was like a highly anticipated show. We'll say that
this was after their um single Mike Girls was like
really big and so this is a big deal. I
mean make to something slightly illicit, which is that we
were like we have to get edibles from the show.
It's gonna be great. Animals were edibles in, It's gonna
be amazing. So we go, we're just such nerds. It
(33:55):
was kind of thing. We're like we had a dessipated
driver and like we had like printed off from the internet.
I ain't got nerdy. That's totally responsible. We're older, We're
not like kids are like reckless. We were like, here's information.
So I hurt eating and drinking water like we're doing it, no,
doing it very safely. And this venue is like an
(34:16):
outdoor venue, but there's a standing room part right up front,
and so we had got like right up front. It
was very very prouded. And as soon as my edibles
kick in, they started playing and I was like, wait
a minute, I hate this. I don't want this music.
And I really had. I really had one of those
like Emperor's New Clothes moments where I was like, this
is just noise. I don't want this at all, Like
(34:36):
what like what was I thinking? And so you know,
I was there if my boyfriend and my friends and
like they were all loving it, and I was like,
you know what, I really need to not be listening
to a noise band right now. So I was like, guys,
that's traumata and it was like I was just like,
I'm it's really crowded. I have to go. And so
it wasn't like a like a bad trip. It was
just just like I really don't enjoy this music, and
(34:58):
in fact, I can't believe I ever into and excusing.
So I was like, guys, enjoy the concert. Our metal
leaves and I left and I since then I was like,
I don't know what I saw. I really had that
movement where I was like, I don't know what I
saw in this band. I don't know why I liked
them so much. I go back and listen to them,
and I'm like, I don't know what it was. I
just really interesting. Yeah, I have that experienced, Like I
(35:21):
don't think I've ever had it that close to the
time and when I liked the band, But I have
that when I go back and listen to some of
the old stuff that I've liked found from the Oar Cops.
Because I don't have a lot of that stuff. I
would have thought that I would have kept it forever,
because like at one point, downloading music was like the
only thing I did after I did my homework like
it was my second homework, you know what I mean,
Like back when downloading music was a lot easier LimeWire
(35:46):
remember her husband on lime Wire one of the la function. Yeah,
I've never even used a chat function. Yeah, there was
a chat function. And she moved and Sweden to be
with this guy. They're still together. Love story. Yeah, if
the Lonnie is the city to this, she'll be like,
oh that's me, shout out to Wan and they're not
sin together and season that wasn't noise. The love stories work, Yeah,
(36:11):
but there in terms, like a point when, um, like
all that music that I had collected over all that time,
my laptop was stolen and I was and I hadn't
backed it up. But the part that really like, um,
the part that made me really sad was that I
had tried to back everything up before and it didn't work.
My computer was just like, this doesn't happen, and like
I felt, I had so much regret about like not
(36:33):
trying again to do it. But now like after I
had to convince myself that this was a thing that
like happened purposefully. I was just like, you know, this
was a purging, like it was meant to start I
was meant to start over. And now you live in
an age of Spotify, like you don't even need to
have physical or like downloaded copies and music still the clown. Yeah,
(36:55):
music was a big that was my thing. It to
me still, it was a big part of my upbringing. Um,
when I was great young. This is kind of tragic story.
My first boyfriend we met because we're both in choir
together and I loved music and he loved music, and
he was a singer. I possibly trained the singer with
a beautiful voice, and we both went to like we
(37:17):
both were had pretty conservative religious upbringings until the only
music that I really had in my life was like
very clean, wholesome music like early Beatles, right. And when
I started getting into like more experimental music, I remember
specifically it was so a huge. I was so excited
and I remember being like, you have to listen to
this this this band I found. They're amazing, and he
(37:38):
listened to it and he was like, I don't feel
like I get it, and he was like really he
was really into like choir music, and I ever like
I had to break up with him because I was like, yo,
I could feel myself like getting really into bands and music,
and I thought like that we can't share this, like
then what is this? And so we broke up and
it was very tragic. And now that guy is like
a famous pop star in Korea. When you talk, he's like,
(38:02):
it's funny how you duped be because I listened to
music which one of us is a famous musician now
and I love, oh, hey, you're right, but this is
too strong. But it's interesting when you're young and you
like get into something and you're like this is gonna
be you can tell, like like I could tell that,
like music was going to be a from national part
of my life, and even as a kid, I knew,
like I want to be with someone who shares that.
(38:23):
And yeah, it's like I was the same way, like
going home and like going toos on kind of wanting music.
I'm like making mixed c d s and waiting to
hear one song on the radio and I like Pavement,
and then the the DJ would to the off and
so you're like, I'm trying to pick this song here.
You know, I'm got a little young for that, but
that trust me, that was a thing. Yeah, I didn't
do the whole taking. It was all Internet for me. Yeah, yeah,
(38:47):
I mean it's it's definitely a thing. I had an
illegal CD burning because I didn't realize she was a
young huzzler. I want young hustler, I really was. I
had several business a white female jay z but like
not feeling drugs. I didn't realize how illegal it was
(39:12):
because it was so easy when we were younger. So
I had a I had a menu you would open
and had options and then you could request something, or
you could get Annie's mix where I would ask, what
are your favorite songs and I would make a mix
for You've got to do that for all of us.
I will, Oh my god, I will. I was so
(39:35):
successful that um, some guy I didn't even know I
was going into zacks because I remember it's very clearly.
It was like thirty year old man I never met,
said are you Annie? I said yes, and he said,
can you make me a man? That's like my dream?
Oh my god. The weirdest request I got was this
one guy. He wanted an entire CD of Under the
(39:57):
Bridge by Red Hot Chili Peppers, just back to back to,
and I said, I, I mean, there are twenty four
hour loops on YouTube now, so he's ahead of the song.
Maybe maybe you're right he was ahead of his time.
But to me, I was like, don't don't repeat, to
put out repeat and I put other songs on there
in case you ever sighed. He said, nope, but I
doesn't want to hold as maybe as you can sit.
(40:19):
What do you think he was doing with that? You
don't want to know? Yeah, okay, my Corney wild Cart
was what's the last thing that made you cry? Oh?
Oh man? I I was reading something that I had written.
It sounds so self aggrandizing, but somebody asked me to
find something I've written as a younger person, and I
(40:42):
found it and I read it and maybe, oh God,
did you ever read something and you look back in
the period of your life and you're just it feels
like a different person and you kind of mourn it
and really sorry, I say so much, but you didn't
know then what was going to happen. It was a surprise,
is that it was something I wasn't expecting to find
(41:02):
and I found it on my old laptop. Prob serious
struggles that so much because it's like things that are
like um the scalta and like pointing it like it's
like that kind of thing that gets me where. It's
like I hadn't processed with this means, but it's really emotional. Yeah,
I didn't realize that what I was writing, and now
(41:24):
I have the emotional tools to recognize. There were many
of times when I'm like reading letters on paper and
just like their tears fall working on like the paper
and like, well, I'm not doing this to myself. I
think that all the time writing this is what a
great note? Right? Well this is better. They're lifting I
(41:47):
told you, Yes, we're bird listeners to you please subsprise. Yeah,
So that conversation that any Bridget and I just had
was really awkward, but we hope that you guys got
(42:07):
to know a lot more about us. Yes, I certainly
learned a lot about Bridget and Ease, and I had
such a fun and awkward time doing it, So I
hope that it was as enjoyable for you as it
was for us. And y'all already know I'm all about
the awkward fund so I hope that was fun for y'all.
And let us know what you think. How is that conversation?
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Dateline NBC
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