January 6, 2022 • 17 mins
Ever left a party and wanted to shrink and disappear and apologize to everyone you've ever met for your very existence? Yep, it's that episode. Samantha and Anney share very different perspectives but similar reactions to the same party.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff.
I never told your production by Heart radio. You know, occasionally, Samantha,
I feel like a robot and sometimes I feel like
I sound very robotic during that intro. But I did
(00:26):
just have to do it twice and it kind of
tripped me up a bit because I was like, I'm
stuck in the same moment over and over again. To
be fair, that was my fault because I was unprofessionally
drinking on the mic, and I was like, this is
not people already complain. Why am I doing this? Let's
do that again, So my bad on that one. It's
all good because it's time for another happy Hour and
(00:49):
as I always, drink responsibly if you choose to do so.
We are kind of doing a huge, very long recording
session today, so it's a bit of a cheat. Still
sipping on very long yes, well this is a last
thing for today. Yes, uh so we're still sipping on
what we had for the happy hour. You that came
out too happy hours ago a wile ago, thanks the
(01:11):
thankful one. So I'm still sipping on my gin and
tonic and do you on your wine? Still still open
on the Vino Verde that I still love. Yes, so
we are now in again. I don't know when you're
listening to this, but I'm assuming it's And as part
(01:32):
of this episode, it actually kind of relates to I
Believe a Monday Minnie that's coming out soon about kind
of feeling doubt and insecure in your job and in
your performance, which we're going to be discussing. That's the
whole thing. I have been thinking about, this idea being
too much and feeling like I'm too much a lot lately.
(01:54):
And this whole thing is precipitated by a holiday party
that Samantha and I went to. But before I get
into that, it also, of course, I have a fan
fiction story about this because I I found a fan
fiction and there are a lot of fan fiction about
a sexual people and a sexual people being in relationships
(02:16):
with non asexual people. Most of the ones I have
read are told from the point of view of the
a sexual person, which makes sense, but I just read
one from the other side of this point of view,
and it was really moving and it was really well written,
and I was like, oh, because I've just never had
this conversation with somebody in a relationship before, and the
(02:39):
person who wasn't a sexual kind of had this breakdown
and kept saying, like, I feel like I'm too much,
Like I'm too much, I asked for too much, I
need too much, and they were tears. Ship there were tears.
But I just got to thinking about that because I
(03:00):
know I've discussed before, and we've discussed before, a lot
of times I do feel like I'm too much, or
I asked for too much, or like I have to
hide pieces of myself that because if you knew that,
if you knew that about me, or if I asked
for something, then you're not worth to ask, like the
people will be, you'll scare them away to be because
(03:21):
she is not worth how much effort she is asking
of me, which is often ridiculous because a lot of
times it's really small things, like it's hard for me
because I am a very passionate person. But in the
back of my head, I'm like, why do people put
up with me? Like why did I why don't they
let me talk about all this stuff? And I try
to hide it. It's so funny. My mom has started
(03:42):
watching Star Wars on Sundays. It is really cute, but
it took me forever to even tell her. And I
love my mom and we're really open with each other,
but took me forever to even tell her. I did
that because I thought it would be too much, and
then she was going to feel like she had to
do it if I was home on Sundays, and then
I was going to be embarrassed and thinking she hate
followed this and she wants to she wants it to
(04:03):
be over, and just getting really in my head about
things like that. Um, and then you know, you scale
that up in a relationship and you're thinking you have
to minimize yourself, you have to be small or else
this person is going to leave. And I think a
lot of women relate to that. But yes, recently we
had this party. Is the first time Samantha and I
(04:24):
have been in an event. It was outdoors and it
wasn't that many people, but it was more people than
I'm definitely interacted with in a while. And I think
because my a lot of my persona has been built
on like she's always doing something, she's always busy. You know,
people give you that question like what are you doing? What?
How are you and it's just silence because you're like, uh,
(04:47):
staying in Star Wars or whatever. But that's the thing,
is like you're doing something. You found such a passion
for this, and you've always had it, but you've been
able to dig into it legitimately, like all the way
into it. That's where I'm like, I watch any watch
Star Wars Like that isn't my response because we just
(05:13):
had a moment and it's hilarious because both of us
apparently are on the same truck emotionally, and yes, we
were definitely triggered by this party, which is hilarious because
from my standpoint, and I've already kind of said this,
you were on point and everybody was loving you as
where I was disappearing and people were running away from me.
(05:34):
So it was kind of like we just had a
weird opposite interaction. And of course it could be in
my head because I'm always in my head, and in
my head, I'm the worst person ever, you know, coming
back to being too much, and that is absolutely like
I'm in the way. That has been a haunt tagline
for me since pretty much like young young toddler hood self.
(05:59):
So I have a whole thing with this with you,
as like you and I have talked about this many times,
because I'm like, I'm non existent and people don't even
realize I'm here. When I show up. It's more of
an awkward hey, hey, what you do and oh, okay, bah,
(06:20):
And I'm the one who's asking how are you? And
I'm like, oh my god, I shouldn't be asking you that,
because this is a really horrible time frame for a
lot of people, and that's not a question that you
want to ask someone. But on top of that, myself,
in general, I'm a very intense person like that. There's
no good getting around it. I really wish I wasn't
(06:41):
sometimes because when I'm asking you how you are, I'm
legitimately asking you, and then when you start talking to me,
I'm going to ask more questions. And I've been told
many of times Smith that's not really appropriate. They just,
you know, people want to just be and make the
like a superficial questions and move on in life. And
I realized, Okay, that's too much. My intensity is too much, okay,
(07:05):
And I've really had to try to scale back to
the point that I've had to say it out loud
to people like, I'm so sorry if this is getting
too deep. I promise I'll stop. It's just I'm incapable
of not following through or having follow up if I
hear something, And that's all to do with my own past,
(07:26):
my own traumas, my own training, my own empathy, Like
that's just that's just hack. I can't and if I
see a signal, it's hard for me not to see it.
So yeah, yeah, there's so much in in in all
(07:56):
of this, because if you have long time listeners, might
remember back when I did my we did our therapy
sessions and we did episodes where we shared those with you,
and I was talking about how I always feel like
it's this performance and it's so fake, and that people
are going to see that it's fake, and that if
they get any hint of, like any glimpse of the
real me or whatever is really going on, and they're
(08:18):
not gonna want to deal with me anymore. I had
a friend tell me, you create problems by not trying
to create problems, because I'm trying so hard to not
annoying people because I think I'm annoying presence, I won't
text you, or I won't because I think you'll be
annoyed um with my silly thoughts on whatever it is,
and sometimes it's not even necessarily thought of, something small
(08:39):
and I still won't do it. And I was even
like that with my parents or I was like there
one day, they're just gonna be like nope. But anyway,
sometimes what happens, I feel like for me is I'll
go to these parties and I'm having fun and there's
alcohol involved, and my inhibitions will go down and I'm
being more open than I would normally be. And that's
not not even about like private stuff. But I was
(09:01):
trying to convince this guy about why the Last of
Us two is the best of us the best game ever. Um,
so things like that that are not like that me
and Tyler and later like they're fun conversations and I
like them. There's something I probably wouldn't do unless I
really know you very well. And so at the end
(09:23):
of the night, I've had all these conversations to people
and it had been fun, and I've been really like
outgoing and loud and probably more than I normally am
because normally I'm pretty like preserved with people I don't
know very well. And I got home and I just
like totally broke down and just solved for ten minutes,
like real sobs, and there was a lot of stuff
(09:44):
going on, but one of the things like I shrunken
and my friends have seen me do this. If I
get really upset, like I will literally make myself small.
I will get in a ball and I will It
looks really painful, it's like a pretzel thing, and I'll
just like stay there because it's like I don't want
to be seen. I don't want to be heard because
now everyone's seen me in heard me, and they're going
to realize like, oh, she's a terrible person, or oh
I don't want her around, or she's not worth having around,
(10:06):
she's too much, And it's I don't know. It's one
of those really frustrating, like insecurities to shake, and I
know it is mine, and I like know it. There's
like a thought I can think and it's if I
told it to you wouldn't think it's that bad. But
it is enough to just wreck me. And a lot
of times when I talk to people about fan fiction,
(10:27):
and then they're always like, she reads the saddest stuff.
I do read sad stuff. But really a lot of
it is just about not feeling like you're worth it like,
it's not super tragic, it's just oh that's not right. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
no again, I'm with you and like again. And the
thing that the statement that has ever haunted me and
(10:47):
makes me tear up, and you can hear to my
voice when I say that I'm in the way or um,
the whole rejection. But being in the way is my
biggest game fear, which is an absurd fear because it
doesn't sound right in any aspects of like being in
the way, What do you mean? Do you mean physically?
Do you mean all these things? I'm like, I know
(11:07):
all of it, being literally cast out of a house
to another person, to another person, to another person, to
an orphanage where some of my big traumas happened. I
physically react to the thought of being in the way
and that I have to prove myself and don't even
(11:30):
know what that truly means to truly understand. The same
thing is like I'm being too much, I'm being too loud,
I'm being too obnoxious, I'm being too needy. Those are
three of the biggest things that I fear, and I
worked so hard to pred on the persona of being
independent that anything else doesn't feel natural, and feel like
(11:54):
it feels like a violation of who I am, which
is not necessarily true. And again so many questions. So
being vulnerable in any any way going to an event,
which feels like, especially with jobs in an event, and
I'm one of the older ones as a podcasting host,
(12:14):
like at this up and trending new type of culture
and subset, I feel out of place. I'm not white,
i am not a man, i am forty years old,
I am adopted, and I have barely gotten through life
in so many ways, and so being in this aspects
(12:35):
and again like many of y'all are journalists and writers
and actors, and I'm like, hey, I lived in l J,
Georgia when the University of Georgia social work. Yeah, so
all of those insecurities is so huge, and you're right,
like feeling like I'm always in the way and therefore
(12:58):
I am a nuisance and literally a diversity token. That's
been a huge thing in my head anyway. But add
that to the fact that I have been told that
I haven't been wanted and that they're all of these
things literally being cast aside, passed around trying to find
(13:20):
someone to solve this problem called me, um, hey, that's
my men more. But yeah, I definitely get that, and
I'm sure. So I haven't gotten to the point where
I can say I'm sure it's all in my head.
Mm hmm. I don't know if that's true, but I
will say, like, it's interesting to see you having those
(13:43):
same thoughts who I think you're You're literally, to me,
the center of attention, not because you're trying to put
yourself there, but because people adore you. To that point,
we've been I've been gushing over you all day, so
I'm just gonna keep going with it. But essentially with
what I saw at the party, as I was trying
to in a way, M well, that's one of the thing.
(14:07):
It's like, I always find it so interesting with with
you and a lot of my friends who are women.
I'll hear you say something like this, and but I
think you're so amazing and I think you're so great,
and I don't see that. But I'm also doing it
like I think it's just such a common the way
we see each other and the way we see ourselves.
And that's kind of why I wanted to bring it up,
because after we talked about this. I was like, this
is so interesting to me that we're kind of we're
(14:32):
just we're struggling with the same thing. It's just viewing
it and interpreting it differently. And like I guess, like
I said, we we are very different in how we
deal with stress, so we're kind of outwardly appearing very different,
but inwardly, yeah, very similar. Like we may react differently,
(14:55):
but it's for the same reasons. That's it's fascinating. Of course,
you know people are different peop we are unique, and
we know this. But that's the thing is like this
whole idea of the impostor syndrome, I don't think that
that word is strong enough for this. This is not
impostor syndrome. This is a trauma that we suffered again
going through our own experiences, but also being women in
(15:18):
a society that has been taught to shrink, and that
we should know our place in society, which is to
be behind in the shadows in the corner, doing all
the labor, but quietly and stuffing through it quietly. And
I think it does say that. It just showed that
a lot. And then when we start being recognized or
(15:40):
being seen or wanting to be seen or wanting to
be recognized. It feels like blasphemy, how dare you? But
within our own souls because once again, this is the
opposite of being what we were taught as women in
the society. That's a bigger conversation though it is, But
(16:00):
that's definitely one of the reasons I wanted to talk
about this because I do think like being too much,
we like we can't even express our needs are wants
because that's too much, but they could be basic things.
We've just been so conditioned to do this and so
conditioned through our experiences and through society, through um, yeah,
(16:22):
being women. Of if I am too much in whatever
way I think that is, if I'm too loud or
talk to you about my Star Wars love too much,
you're just going to write me off because that's that's
You're not worth the effort. So I think there's a
lot we could unpack with this, and I'm sure we
(16:43):
probably will. And and sheres too, and I hope you
can tell us what you are going through and how
you are doing, because I have a feeling we're not
alone in this new concept of trying to socialize. Again.
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(17:03):
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Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff.
I never told your production by Heart radio. You know, occasionally, Samantha,
I feel like a robot and sometimes I feel like
I sound very robotic during that intro. But I did
(00:26):
just have to do it twice and it kind of
tripped me up a bit because I was like, I'm
stuck in the same moment over and over again. To
be fair, that was my fault because I was unprofessionally
drinking on the mic, and I was like, this is
not people already complain. Why am I doing this? Let's
do that again, So my bad on that one. It's
all good because it's time for another happy Hour and
(00:49):
as I always, drink responsibly if you choose to do so.
We are kind of doing a huge, very long recording
session today, so it's a bit of a cheat. Still
sipping on very long yes, well this is a last
thing for today. Yes, uh so we're still sipping on
what we had for the happy hour. You that came
out too happy hours ago a wile ago, thanks the
(01:11):
thankful one. So I'm still sipping on my gin and
tonic and do you on your wine? Still still open
on the Vino Verde that I still love. Yes, so
we are now in again. I don't know when you're
listening to this, but I'm assuming it's And as part
(01:32):
of this episode, it actually kind of relates to I
Believe a Monday Minnie that's coming out soon about kind
of feeling doubt and insecure in your job and in
your performance, which we're going to be discussing. That's the
whole thing. I have been thinking about, this idea being
too much and feeling like I'm too much a lot lately.
(01:54):
And this whole thing is precipitated by a holiday party
that Samantha and I went to. But before I get
into that, it also, of course, I have a fan
fiction story about this because I I found a fan
fiction and there are a lot of fan fiction about
a sexual people and a sexual people being in relationships
(02:16):
with non asexual people. Most of the ones I have
read are told from the point of view of the
a sexual person, which makes sense, but I just read
one from the other side of this point of view,
and it was really moving and it was really well written,
and I was like, oh, because I've just never had
this conversation with somebody in a relationship before, and the
(02:39):
person who wasn't a sexual kind of had this breakdown
and kept saying, like, I feel like I'm too much,
Like I'm too much, I asked for too much, I
need too much, and they were tears. Ship there were tears.
But I just got to thinking about that because I
(03:00):
know I've discussed before, and we've discussed before, a lot
of times I do feel like I'm too much, or
I asked for too much, or like I have to
hide pieces of myself that because if you knew that,
if you knew that about me, or if I asked
for something, then you're not worth to ask, like the
people will be, you'll scare them away to be because
(03:21):
she is not worth how much effort she is asking
of me, which is often ridiculous because a lot of
times it's really small things, like it's hard for me
because I am a very passionate person. But in the
back of my head, I'm like, why do people put
up with me? Like why did I why don't they
let me talk about all this stuff? And I try
to hide it. It's so funny. My mom has started
(03:42):
watching Star Wars on Sundays. It is really cute, but
it took me forever to even tell her. And I
love my mom and we're really open with each other,
but took me forever to even tell her. I did
that because I thought it would be too much, and
then she was going to feel like she had to
do it if I was home on Sundays, and then
I was going to be embarrassed and thinking she hate
followed this and she wants to she wants it to
(04:03):
be over, and just getting really in my head about
things like that. Um, and then you know, you scale
that up in a relationship and you're thinking you have
to minimize yourself, you have to be small or else
this person is going to leave. And I think a
lot of women relate to that. But yes, recently we
had this party. Is the first time Samantha and I
(04:24):
have been in an event. It was outdoors and it
wasn't that many people, but it was more people than
I'm definitely interacted with in a while. And I think
because my a lot of my persona has been built
on like she's always doing something, she's always busy. You know,
people give you that question like what are you doing? What?
How are you and it's just silence because you're like, uh,
(04:47):
staying in Star Wars or whatever. But that's the thing,
is like you're doing something. You found such a passion
for this, and you've always had it, but you've been
able to dig into it legitimately, like all the way
into it. That's where I'm like, I watch any watch
Star Wars Like that isn't my response because we just
(05:13):
had a moment and it's hilarious because both of us
apparently are on the same truck emotionally, and yes, we
were definitely triggered by this party, which is hilarious because
from my standpoint, and I've already kind of said this,
you were on point and everybody was loving you as
where I was disappearing and people were running away from me.
(05:34):
So it was kind of like we just had a
weird opposite interaction. And of course it could be in
my head because I'm always in my head, and in
my head, I'm the worst person ever, you know, coming
back to being too much, and that is absolutely like
I'm in the way. That has been a haunt tagline
for me since pretty much like young young toddler hood self.
(05:59):
So I have a whole thing with this with you,
as like you and I have talked about this many times,
because I'm like, I'm non existent and people don't even
realize I'm here. When I show up. It's more of
an awkward hey, hey, what you do and oh, okay, bah,
(06:20):
And I'm the one who's asking how are you? And
I'm like, oh my god, I shouldn't be asking you that,
because this is a really horrible time frame for a
lot of people, and that's not a question that you
want to ask someone. But on top of that, myself,
in general, I'm a very intense person like that. There's
no good getting around it. I really wish I wasn't
(06:41):
sometimes because when I'm asking you how you are, I'm
legitimately asking you, and then when you start talking to me,
I'm going to ask more questions. And I've been told
many of times Smith that's not really appropriate. They just,
you know, people want to just be and make the
like a superficial questions and move on in life. And
I realized, Okay, that's too much. My intensity is too much, okay,
(07:05):
And I've really had to try to scale back to
the point that I've had to say it out loud
to people like, I'm so sorry if this is getting
too deep. I promise I'll stop. It's just I'm incapable
of not following through or having follow up if I
hear something, And that's all to do with my own past,
(07:26):
my own traumas, my own training, my own empathy, Like
that's just that's just hack. I can't and if I
see a signal, it's hard for me not to see it.
So yeah, yeah, there's so much in in in all
(07:56):
of this, because if you have long time listeners, might
remember back when I did my we did our therapy
sessions and we did episodes where we shared those with you,
and I was talking about how I always feel like
it's this performance and it's so fake, and that people
are going to see that it's fake, and that if
they get any hint of, like any glimpse of the
real me or whatever is really going on, and they're
(08:18):
not gonna want to deal with me anymore. I had
a friend tell me, you create problems by not trying
to create problems, because I'm trying so hard to not
annoying people because I think I'm annoying presence, I won't
text you, or I won't because I think you'll be
annoyed um with my silly thoughts on whatever it is,
and sometimes it's not even necessarily thought of, something small
(08:39):
and I still won't do it. And I was even
like that with my parents or I was like there
one day, they're just gonna be like nope. But anyway,
sometimes what happens, I feel like for me is I'll
go to these parties and I'm having fun and there's
alcohol involved, and my inhibitions will go down and I'm
being more open than I would normally be. And that's
not not even about like private stuff. But I was
(09:01):
trying to convince this guy about why the Last of
Us two is the best of us the best game ever. Um,
so things like that that are not like that me
and Tyler and later like they're fun conversations and I
like them. There's something I probably wouldn't do unless I
really know you very well. And so at the end
(09:23):
of the night, I've had all these conversations to people
and it had been fun, and I've been really like
outgoing and loud and probably more than I normally am
because normally I'm pretty like preserved with people I don't
know very well. And I got home and I just
like totally broke down and just solved for ten minutes,
like real sobs, and there was a lot of stuff
(09:44):
going on, but one of the things like I shrunken
and my friends have seen me do this. If I
get really upset, like I will literally make myself small.
I will get in a ball and I will It
looks really painful, it's like a pretzel thing, and I'll
just like stay there because it's like I don't want
to be seen. I don't want to be heard because
now everyone's seen me in heard me, and they're going
to realize like, oh, she's a terrible person, or oh
I don't want her around, or she's not worth having around,
(10:06):
she's too much, And it's I don't know. It's one
of those really frustrating, like insecurities to shake, and I
know it is mine, and I like know it. There's
like a thought I can think and it's if I
told it to you wouldn't think it's that bad. But
it is enough to just wreck me. And a lot
of times when I talk to people about fan fiction,
(10:27):
and then they're always like, she reads the saddest stuff.
I do read sad stuff. But really a lot of
it is just about not feeling like you're worth it like,
it's not super tragic, it's just oh that's not right. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
no again, I'm with you and like again. And the
thing that the statement that has ever haunted me and
(10:47):
makes me tear up, and you can hear to my
voice when I say that I'm in the way or um,
the whole rejection. But being in the way is my
biggest game fear, which is an absurd fear because it
doesn't sound right in any aspects of like being in
the way, What do you mean? Do you mean physically?
Do you mean all these things? I'm like, I know
(11:07):
all of it, being literally cast out of a house
to another person, to another person, to another person, to
an orphanage where some of my big traumas happened. I
physically react to the thought of being in the way
and that I have to prove myself and don't even
(11:30):
know what that truly means to truly understand. The same
thing is like I'm being too much, I'm being too loud,
I'm being too obnoxious, I'm being too needy. Those are
three of the biggest things that I fear, and I
worked so hard to pred on the persona of being
independent that anything else doesn't feel natural, and feel like
(11:54):
it feels like a violation of who I am, which
is not necessarily true. And again so many questions. So
being vulnerable in any any way going to an event,
which feels like, especially with jobs in an event, and
I'm one of the older ones as a podcasting host,
(12:14):
like at this up and trending new type of culture
and subset, I feel out of place. I'm not white,
i am not a man, i am forty years old,
I am adopted, and I have barely gotten through life
in so many ways, and so being in this aspects
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and again like many of y'all are journalists and writers
and actors, and I'm like, hey, I lived in l J,
Georgia when the University of Georgia social work. Yeah, so
all of those insecurities is so huge, and you're right,
like feeling like I'm always in the way and therefore
(12:58):
I am a nuisance and literally a diversity token. That's
been a huge thing in my head anyway. But add
that to the fact that I have been told that
I haven't been wanted and that they're all of these
things literally being cast aside, passed around trying to find
(13:20):
someone to solve this problem called me, um, hey, that's
my men more. But yeah, I definitely get that, and
I'm sure. So I haven't gotten to the point where
I can say I'm sure it's all in my head.
Mm hmm. I don't know if that's true, but I
will say, like, it's interesting to see you having those
(13:43):
same thoughts who I think you're You're literally, to me,
the center of attention, not because you're trying to put
yourself there, but because people adore you. To that point,
we've been I've been gushing over you all day, so
I'm just gonna keep going with it. But essentially with
what I saw at the party, as I was trying
to in a way, M well, that's one of the thing.
(14:07):
It's like, I always find it so interesting with with
you and a lot of my friends who are women.
I'll hear you say something like this, and but I
think you're so amazing and I think you're so great,
and I don't see that. But I'm also doing it
like I think it's just such a common the way
we see each other and the way we see ourselves.
And that's kind of why I wanted to bring it up,
because after we talked about this. I was like, this
is so interesting to me that we're kind of we're
(14:32):
just we're struggling with the same thing. It's just viewing
it and interpreting it differently. And like I guess, like
I said, we we are very different in how we
deal with stress, so we're kind of outwardly appearing very different,
but inwardly, yeah, very similar. Like we may react differently,
(14:55):
but it's for the same reasons. That's it's fascinating. Of course,
you know people are different peop we are unique, and
we know this. But that's the thing is like this
whole idea of the impostor syndrome, I don't think that
that word is strong enough for this. This is not
impostor syndrome. This is a trauma that we suffered again
going through our own experiences, but also being women in
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a society that has been taught to shrink, and that
we should know our place in society, which is to
be behind in the shadows in the corner, doing all
the labor, but quietly and stuffing through it quietly. And
I think it does say that. It just showed that
a lot. And then when we start being recognized or
(15:40):
being seen or wanting to be seen or wanting to
be recognized. It feels like blasphemy, how dare you? But
within our own souls because once again, this is the
opposite of being what we were taught as women in
the society. That's a bigger conversation though it is, But
(16:00):
that's definitely one of the reasons I wanted to talk
about this because I do think like being too much,
we like we can't even express our needs are wants
because that's too much, but they could be basic things.
We've just been so conditioned to do this and so
conditioned through our experiences and through society, through um, yeah,
(16:22):
being women. Of if I am too much in whatever
way I think that is, if I'm too loud or
talk to you about my Star Wars love too much,
you're just going to write me off because that's that's
You're not worth the effort. So I think there's a
lot we could unpack with this, and I'm sure we
(16:43):
probably will. And and sheres too, and I hope you
can tell us what you are going through and how
you are doing, because I have a feeling we're not
alone in this new concept of trying to socialize. Again.
Some parties set us move love. It's so true though,
(17:03):
it's so true. Yes, we would love, love love to
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